As Good as It Gets with Chris Gethard

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check You make me want to be a better podcast! Yeah, short is good.

[00:00:27] I can't. Sustained by Jack Nicholson. Hello everybody, my name's Griffin Newman. David Sims. This is Blank Check with Griffin and David. We're hashtag the two friends. It's a competitive advantage because I feel like some people don't get this.

[00:00:38] We are friends. The two of us? Yes. We host the podcast together and that is unique. Like you say. In the field. It's an advantage. No one else does it. No one else does it, no one else has done it, no one else will do it.

[00:00:52] Our guest hosts solo. Solo. Solo ballo. You're always rockin' solo. You have occasionally had a guest co-host. You can talk. A couple times. Yeah. But my fans tend to vehemently dislike the guest. They just want me on a phone with a person. That's what they want.

[00:01:11] And sometimes, I mean, stop me, correct me if I'm out of line. Sometimes those guest co-hosts you have on are friends but sometimes they're just people. One time it was Hannibal Burris. Right he's a friend. One time it was Katie Couric.

[00:01:25] Am I wrong in assuming that you do not hang on the regular? No, that was the one time we hung. That was the one time we hung. Was she called? She's super cool. Yeah. She was very much a journalist about it. It was an interesting thing. Right.

[00:01:39] It's sort of an interview podcast kind of but it's also just me and idiot chit-chat. Also hi my name is Chris Gethard. We're referencing a podcast called Beautiful Anonymous. I don't know if they need that info. This is how we like to bring guests on.

[00:01:53] But I'm, yeah, it's like I'm very chit-chatting and just like, uh, so what else? And then but we were talking, we're actually talking with a trans caller. She was like, so I've actually read a lot about the demographics of it.

[00:02:04] And it was like, oh yeah, you are a high level well informed journalist. Casey? Different thing. I went to VidCon, the convention for YouTubers and you don't have to brag. So for media influencers, well look, I don't want to brag

[00:02:19] that I was there doing a correspondence piece for a TV show that got canceled before they aired my piece. So does that piece, they just never saw the light of day? Never saw the light of day. But we gotta do to get our hands on this VidCon footage.

[00:02:31] Yeah, that's true. We gotta resurface this. I'll say this, it was a piece produced for a show, for a network that you used to be on. Really? Yeah. Wait really? I think you can surmise what network that is. A network that sometimes doesn't put stuff on the air.

[00:02:45] Wait no, I thought it was on... This was after that. Oh, okay. This was after that. But yeah, so HumbleBrag, I made maybe a cool $150 to go to Orlando for three days and what was going to be good real material that never aired.

[00:02:59] Didn't meet the polls, but the thing I was going to say was we were checking in and I was with the producer of the segment and we were just like, what the fuck is this? We're so outside of this world.

[00:03:14] This is before people like Jake Paul sort of permeated. Yeah, no, of course. To being like everyone knows who he is even if they don't know his work because he's a news item. And we were just watching random 17-year-olds with Nickelodeon haircuts

[00:03:27] who were just being swarmed and mobbed and parents holding their crying daughters back and four or five pockets of that and we're like these people are causing eruptions of tears and we don't even know who they are.

[00:03:40] And then I looked over and Katie Couric was just walking through the lobby completely unaffected, unnoticed. And you could tell she was flanked by like five bodyguards. She was like, okay, this is going to be rough. Let's just get through here as quickly as possible.

[00:03:55] And you could tell that she was like a little relieved that no one was mobbing her but also like, but seriously that guy, I'm Katie fucking Couric. I was once in, you do things on TV and they send you out on these like blitzes of like,

[00:04:09] just go do this and this and this. They were like, we have you slated to be a presenter at the Shorty Awards, which I didn't know what I did. I'm 37 years old. And then they were like, I was like, what is it?

[00:04:23] And they said it's like YouTube, Instagram, Vine driven awards. Short form content. Is that an idea? Yeah. But I went and it was like a red carpet in the middle of Manhattan. Was there a celeb host? Flipping out. Yeah, I forget who Al Roker was backstage chilling.

[00:04:40] Katie's butt. Cause I think he was big on Periscope at the time. Roker? Yeah, Roker was a dude. I followed Roker on Periscope and it made me delete Periscope. Al Roker chill though. Would he be like live every 20 minutes? You have no idea.

[00:04:53] He was like getting a sandwich. No, I wasn't mostly weather or was it not weather at all? It was getting a sandwich level stuff. He said, oh, Al Roker saw a dog chasing a dog down the street on Periscope.

[00:05:04] Roker was famously the first famous person you tried to get on Chris Gether's show when you were like still UCB baseman. Yes, you could say that a lot of my career took off because Al Roker rejected me. Yeah. So I switched to Diddy. Right.

[00:05:20] And that's how my long story relationship with Diddy began. Yeah. If Al Roker just said yes, he would have come and done the show. It wouldn't have gotten any of the buzz or press. Yeah, Al Roker's people are, I mean, I love Al Roker

[00:05:32] but people are less impressed when Al Roker does a guess bit. He does a lot of those. It would have been more in line with the original spirit of the Gether show, which was like, oh, that's a goofy thing these weirdos are doing. Very Manhattan too.

[00:05:44] Yeah, very New York centric. And instead it was like, oh now this like mythical figure is involved. Yeah, like this wizard. And it gave it a sense of magic. But Roker declined very quickly, right? That was my memory was you tweeted. It was Christmas Eve.

[00:05:59] I was at my parents house up in the Adirondack Mountains. So bored. You posted a shirtless video saying I'm going to get a celebrity for next year. Let's get Al Roker. Yeah. And then he straight up was just like, nah, I'm busy. Right.

[00:06:11] And then that, but you know, that was 2009. Sure. And I will say Twitter was pretty young then. And I think it was very new. I think it was like an early thing where people realized like, oh, these celebrities are actually using it themselves. Yeah. Yes.

[00:06:26] Like it's still the thrill of that. I remember when Charlie Sheen joined Twitter and people were excited. People were like, oh no, what's he going to do? Like the idea that a celebrity would be on Twitter was still a novelty.

[00:06:36] And also like Twitter was small enough and kind of regional enough that once Roker rejected you and you were like, I'm going twice as big hashtag Diddy Gethered. It got like a lot of traction because there was less stuff on Twitter.

[00:06:50] Like you didn't have like mega bots, you know? Well, I also think I also realized that I was just bored but it made me realize one of the smartest things I did was I did it on Christmas Eve

[00:07:00] when every young person who uses Twitter is probably so bored of talking to their aunts and uncles. Right. So people were like, I'll retweet this thing. You're fucking with Diddy? Great. This is anything that's not my family? Great. Yeah. Helped a lot.

[00:07:15] This is a podcast called Blank Check. Yeah, I was going to say. My love to Curse, I just said, yeah, 100% I said the F word. Sorry I didn't ask for this. No, please keep saying it. It's podcast about filmography directors who have massive success earlier on their careers

[00:07:27] and given a series of blank checks to make whatever crazy passion projects they want. Sometimes they clear and sometimes they bounce baby David's holding up his eyebrows. He looks like Satan. This, of course, is a mini series on the films of Diddy.

[00:07:41] No, this is a mini series on the films of James L. Brooks and he's gotten to the titular episode as pot as it cast. No, this fucking podcast mini series is called Podcast News. But this one we can call as pot as it cast. Thank you.

[00:07:58] And as he interests himself, Chris Gathart, host of the Chris Gathart Show, beautiful anonymous, second time guest. I mean, maybe the most request we've ever had for return guest because it's been a while you haven't been on since the Star Wars days. Yeah.

[00:08:14] Well that's very flattering that people enjoyed it. Thank you everyone. Flip Fort, still flip Fort. Enjoyed the performance review episode for episode three revenge of the set. Yes. Very specific. Well, I'm very passionate about it. You're passionate about Star Wars always have been. Yeah. My whole life.

[00:08:30] Grievous, a dickhead. Yeah. Come on. Not even good at what he does. How did he become a general? We promoting him. What do you think of the new Star Wars? I've been liking them because we like we,

[00:08:43] I guess we had not seen those the last time we did this podcast together. Love, Drug One. Oh yeah. Love, Drug One. Yeah. I thought it was so, I thought it was actually pretty bold of them as a giant corporation to realize,

[00:08:55] oh we have these stand-alones people can die now. Sure. That's pretty crazy when you think about it. They all died. But I also, I saw you. Yeah. Like a, like a failure. Everyone died. Like a spoiler. Everyone died. Yeah. But like a wipeout.

[00:09:08] Like of course they killed Obi-Wan and of course people died, but they come back as ghosts to please children. That's true. And so you can sell trans-ecent toys and then, you know, to see one where they're like, no let's wipe them all out.

[00:09:22] Here's why they, here's why they weren't in the other movies you saw. Cause they all met. Dunzo. Grizzly death. Quite grizzly. I saw you very shortly after Rogue One came out and I was telling you my reservations with the movie and your response was,

[00:09:37] I think you misread the film. If you ask me that movie is about one thing and that one thing is General Raddis. Yeah, that was General Raddis's, I feel like that was really, they were putting him up on a pedestal. It was a vanity piece for General Raddis.

[00:09:55] When you reconsider Rogue One from the viewpoint of General Raddis. He's very, vastly different film. He's a Trichilian General Raddis. Yeah. I will add some strong opinions on Last Jedi. Okay. Specifically a character that I've come to hate. Oh no. Morally. Who? Like in Oscar Isaac's character.

[00:10:13] Po Dameron. Po Dameron. Po Dameron. You hate him. You're down on Po. This guy, by the standards of any military outfit should be, they should be head him on TV for treason and mutiny. They should throw him in jail and lock away the kids.

[00:10:28] He is personally responsible for the death of roughly 70% of the rebels. I mean he ignores it and eats up all their bombers in the end. We're in the very beginning. And then in the end he pulls an outright mutiny and because he wasn't let in on the plan

[00:10:44] when frankly sir, you're not at that level on the chain of fucking command. It's called the chain of command. You have follow orders in the Rebel Alliance. Because of that all his mutiny he accomplishes is a massive delay that when you watch that movie

[00:10:56] the second time clearly contributes to the fact that all those ships don't make it to that safe haven they're trying to get to because he delays them getting there. Wow. So you're just- He's a war criminal. So in the third movie you're just going to boo

[00:11:09] the second Oscar Isaac's handsome face pops up. The fact that anyone likes him at the end of that instead of being like you completely ruined this the fact that we're in a cave with fucking crystal dogs like hanging out for bare life is your fault.

[00:11:23] 100% you personally it's your fault. Can I throw one counterpoint? Can I throw a one counterpoint? I mean I saw Oscar Isaac and Hamlet at the public and oh my god. That guy's handsome. He's a talented person. Yes, he is very talented. Who was your favorite last Jedi character?

[00:11:36] You have like a standout for you. Was there a Radice of the film? Oh great. Great question. I was telling you my problems with Rogue One and your counterpoint was but what about General Radice and I said I can't argue with Radice

[00:11:49] and you said as far as I'm concerned that's Radice's movie and if you like Radice you like the film. Yeah, you gotta be down there. Oh here's another thought I had about last Jedi because I actually like those crystal dogs. You remember the crystal dogs? Yeah good guys.

[00:12:03] Here's a weird thing that needs to be brought up about Star Wars. We've seen Tweedlegs with their headdress. Sure the tendrils. We've seen Gamorion guards, giant pig creatures. I mean think about the you know the Mos Eisley band those weird bald heads. You've seen everything.

[00:12:21] Have we ever seen a four-legged creature with the ability to speak in the Star Wars universe? Wow so you're saying like Star Wars posits that being a bipedal like implies superiority. Right. Where as a dooback you just get, I'm referencing doobacks here,

[00:12:37] you just get a saddle put on you. It's a steed. I mean you know, no agency. Saboba? Well that was going to be my counterpoint but Saboba is weird. He walks on two feet though. He just walks on the wrong two feet. That's the thing.

[00:12:49] I mean Saboba it's kind of, He's an odd one. And the question is is he walking on two of his four feet or is he walking on his arms? That's another question for me is Saboba hand-walker. When are we gonna see a four-legged,

[00:13:01] because you can have the E walks everywhere. You go every corner of the globe, they respect, their rebels respect. They stand up right. Sinities but That's a very good point. There have to be some creatures that evolve in a way

[00:13:11] where the most intelligent way to develop is four-legged. Well and we have like six armed people, right? I mean it's like Dexter Jettster, you know? But like, Yeah, Dexter Jettster. You're right, there is no one who walks on all fours Who would be like in a Senate situation

[00:13:28] or a rebel planning room situation. To my remembrance. And then there are some goofy folks who have gotten elected to Senate. It's not like there's a high bar there. Yeah, and also remember the pod race. There are some real crazy cats.

[00:13:41] But another thing, one of the scariest sites in Star Wars is the AT-AT four legs. Four-legged, there's a real four-legged bias. So everyone's like, ah, you know. And imagine how much scarier it would be if the AT-AT went. Hey, how's it going? How do you do?

[00:13:53] No, but I was honestly thinking how cool would it have been if those crystal dogs had been like follow us. We can get you out of here. Like you'd flip down. You'd flip down. Here's another opinion. Here's another opinion, you guys.

[00:14:03] And I think all your listeners will appreciate about my pins on the new Star Wars movie specifically. Not talking standalone here. Forced Awakens, Last Jedi. They both pulled a very emotionally manipulative stunt that I have to call out. And they have to stop doing it right now.

[00:14:16] It's playing with my emotions. I mean, you guys probably already know what it is here. How the fuck? You're gonna have two movies where you imply to me that Nien Num dies. And then there's a shot, a very brief shot at him standing around. Right at the end.

[00:14:33] Nien Num is now one of the final survivors of the original Rebel crew. He should have like 50 notches on his ship of all the kills he's made. I would go so far as to say this, my friends. I would say that General Radis was the focus.

[00:14:48] I would go so far as to say that Forced Awakens and Last Jedi have both secretly been about Nien Num. Well, and here's another thing. Because like everyone in the rebellion is dead now, basically. Except for Nien Num and that guy with the weird sort of elephant face.

[00:15:03] Yeah, the dude with the tentative. But was he even around in the first three? No, he's just in Return of the Jedi. Oh yeah, I'm talking Nien Num. But the elephant 8-fig. Is he not in The Forced Awakens?

[00:15:14] Okay, so we are correct on this because I said he was in Forced Awakens and I got some shit on Twitter. He wasn't in Jedi. No, absolutely not. No, no, no, no. Here's another creature of his species in Forced Awakens

[00:15:23] but that other alien pilot who's still on the Millennium Falcon alive at the end of the movie is new to Last Jedi. Now here's the bigger thing. Where's Wedge? Have they addressed where Wedge Antilles is? The actor just is like, no thanks. Oh, is that true?

[00:15:37] They wrote the... He's really... That guy is like, No, I don't want your millions of dollars. The Max Fonsito character in Forced Awakens was supposed to be Wedge. It has like a handshake and he was like, I'm not coming back unless you give me a bigger part.

[00:15:49] I believe... I want to find the exact quote because it's a very funny quote. How did I miss this? How did I miss this? He thought he was power playing them and they were just like, cool, we'll hire Max Fonsito.

[00:15:59] Or we'll just fucking draw this in a computer, dickhead. They asked me but it just would have bored me. That's what he said. And he's also swimming and that guy has... He's in all three of the original movies. He's got... He's like the Judah Freelander on 30 Rock movies.

[00:16:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the best game. Every month, free envelopes come through the door. I mean, having been in tiny parts in movies that did okay and I still get residual checks that aren't sizable but like I was in the heat in one scene.

[00:16:28] I was cut from Iron Man 3. I still get little checks. That's what I was going to ask you. That was going to be my question. Do you get the Iron Man 3 check? I get residuals from three movies I was cut out of which is insane. Sag rules.

[00:16:38] I don't think you get the same residuals you would have got if you were in it. Yeah, you get a smaller chunk. But you gave them the time and Union rules you get a little money. Wedge Antilles, that guy is definitely

[00:16:47] a multi-millionaire based off of those three movies. The king of residuals is John Ratsenberger. Oh, Ratsenberger. He's an Empire Strikes Back. He's an Empire Strikes Back. I quietly heard he's the most... he's made the most money out of these movies. Yeah, he's the highest grossing act.

[00:17:01] Every Pixar movie. And then there's another big thing he's in I'm forgetting. You're right. King of residuals. Talking about residuals. At any given moment. They should change the word residuals to Ratsenberger. Got another Ratsenberger today. Is there a second on this planet

[00:17:21] where somewhere in the world a Ratsenberger project? Oh, he's in Superman. Thank you. Yes. A Ratsenberger project is not somewhere airing on TV. It's like law and order. Great question. No, I don't think so. Right now some kid is watching Finding Dory. Now here's my very loaded question.

[00:17:38] I also appreciate that you call them a Ratsenberg project. Is it a Ratsenberg? It's him and it all spreads out of there. Ratsenberg is kind of my ratus. Anything with John Ratsenberger is a John Ratsenberger project for me. This is my big loaded question, okay?

[00:17:54] We all know the tragically we lost Carrie Fisher. And Kathy Candy has said that her intention was for this new trilogy each one to kind of spotlight one of the legacy players as they're kind of passing a torch off to these new characters. Force Awakens was Han's movie.

[00:18:09] Last Jedi was Luke's movie. The intention was that the next film would be Leia's film. And now that's obviously not a possibility. I will say people are shitting on the scene where she holds herself back in. I actually loved that scene. I loved that scene.

[00:18:25] That scene really works for me. Because I think that scene implies something that has always been kind of sort of under the subtleties of Jedi was like, oh, was it supposed to be Leia? Were Yoda and Obi-Wan-Z? They're like a sliding door situation.

[00:18:40] Is she secretly the most powerful out of any of them? I don't even know if she's more powerful because she didn't feel the need to use it. And like she never trained in it and she can still maintain oxygen in her lungs and get herself in instinctively

[00:18:50] with seemingly no Jedi training. Well, I loved that scene. I don't get why people are picking on that scene. I don't either. Did you see Ryan Johnson finally like, you know, tweeted about that because people like us bug him about it all the time.

[00:19:02] He was like, you know, people say to me like how'd she do it? She doesn't have any air. She's in space and he's like moving in space is very easy. There's no resistance. His other point was this is not like something where she needed to pull herself.

[00:19:17] She just needs to move. I think it's a very beautiful scene. I think the music is wonderful in it. I'm sorry, Ben. I knocked over the red guard. He knocked over one of Ben's red boys. Knocked over my red boy. No, boy.

[00:19:27] And now that Ben's got a red boy. This is about, I want to be clear. It's about James Albrox. It's good as it gets. We got to get going. This is my big, my big take. I want to bring up. This is my big take.

[00:19:38] I want to bring up. Do you think now backed into a narrative corner not able to make the episode nine they originally intended as the last major legacy player linked to the original films? They make nine episode nine now. And also ignoring the presence of Chewbacca.

[00:19:57] We got Chewy. We got C3PO. We got R2. But I think they've always been side dishes, right? That's all point is their kind of staple. He's a fucking star. Well, he's like Jack Nicholson. If Neonum's on screen, you're watching Neonum. Well, I do think here's the thing.

[00:20:13] First of all, I want to see these fucking youngsters in the Rebel Alliance. Let's recognize that this guy lived through some major battles that they've heard mythologized. I want to see this guy having rank over them, command over them.

[00:20:24] I don't care that he doesn't speak the basic language. Shared common time. He's a solestine. He's a solestine from a mining planet, one of the earliest societies to actually buy into the rebellion. Do you guys know this?

[00:20:37] The Empire shows up on solest because they're like, we need to take over your minds. They commit war crimes. Yeah, they take over the minds. No, we take to the minds. We immediately start a resistance. We're one of the first ones.

[00:20:47] This guy was a big part of it, man. I also will say this. Having memorized the Star Wars encyclopedia in high school, I know the name of the solestine that signed the compact of the New Republic in the now non-canon story of the post-

[00:21:00] And what is his name? Sientev! Oh, Sientev. What a fucking guy. I think maybe all solestines have two syllable first names, one syllable last name. But why don't they throw some shind in the ennub? I'm saying episode n'enum. That's what they gotta do. Put them in the center.

[00:21:18] Now I got in a fight with Bobby Moynihan about this because he's my friend who I have real child like Star Wars comics. Is the new n'enum, he said it's the same actor? But is that not CGI? No, it's not. It is practical. That's an actor.

[00:21:33] There's an actor that they have that slenderer body and that big a head on. Little guy. Little guy, big head. Yeah, little guy. Now I also heard, is this true? I remember when I was a kid and my most Star Wars obsessed hearing

[00:21:45] that n'enum's language is an actual African language. Oh really? Like they just repurposed the language? Apparently when they... He doesn't say a lot except like, But apparently when Return of the Jedi met the regions of Africa

[00:22:00] where this language is spoken, he's saying like nonsense in this real language and people erupted in cheers and laughter and he became a cult figure. Because he's just saying like dishwasher table. It was something about food. It was something about food environment. Really?

[00:22:14] I've had trouble tracking this down and I forget where I first heard it or read it but I remember hearing a rumor that it was him saying like, Spicy foods best with my stomach or like something like that. In Kenya. In Kenya. 1983.

[00:22:27] Audiences roar in laughter because he says, What are you doing over there? All of you please come over here in Kekuyu which is a Kenyan dialect. There you go. This is why your fans love me. Oh God, I had no idea. Ding dong, ding dong.

[00:22:45] Let me get this. Alright. Look how he leans over. Hello? There was an idea. Excuse me, how can we help you? It's called the Avengers Initiative. The idea was to bring together a group of remarkable people. I get it. See if they could become something more.

[00:23:04] See if they could work together when we needed them to fight the battles we never could. Are you saying that you're Nick Fury? But the white one. Oh! I want to make it clear so it's not offensive. Okay. The white Nick Fury. Sure, from the comic books.

[00:23:18] Has anyone thought? But you're reading the lines from the movie Nick Fury. What movie? What are you talking about? Alright, okay Nick. What movie are you talking about? You're here telling me that you're hiring. I'm looking. You're looking. For a team. For the best talent.

[00:23:34] I would say group of remarkable people. That would be my wording. So you're saying great candidates. Yeah, I mean people could work together when we needed them to fight the battles that we never could. What if I told you, Nick Fury, are you a sergeant or commander?

[00:23:46] Do you have a rank? Well, I've worked through different ranks. I mean I obviously led the howling commandos. Right. But like what were we talking about? Head of shield at this point you are? Yeah, I mean call me Nicky. You're dropping the voice too.

[00:23:59] I'm not dropping the voice. This is how I speak. Little Nicky. Little Nicky. Yeah, call me little Nicky. What if I told you there's a website where you can post your job to a hundred of the web's leading job boards with just one click?

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[00:24:48] They look for the most qualified candidates and they invite them to apply to your Avengers job. They got a Hulk? Well, 80% of employers and that's you. Yeah. Who posts on zip recruiter, get a quality candidate through the site in just one day. Maybe you'll get your Hulk.

[00:25:05] What about a guy with a bow and arrow? Yeah. I think there's a subcategory for that. Okay. Bo skills. Yeah, zip recruiter. It's the smartest way to hire. Well, I'm sold. I guess I should just walk out this door and hire a zip recruiter at full price.

[00:25:21] Excuse me. Thanks for putting your hand up there, Ben. Of course. I wanted to make sure you got to hear this though. And our listeners too. I mean, don't make me turn around too many times because this long leather jacket is heavy.

[00:25:34] And if I twirl too fast, he's dusting the floor for us. It's actually great. It's a duster. It's a leather dust.

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[00:26:11] Well, thank you so much. Okay. I'm so happy I came in here today that you've done me such a favor. Can you holster your weapon now? He's been pointing a gun at us the whole time. I'll put it back. Look, I got a level with you.

[00:26:24] I haven't been entirely honest since I've been in here. Okay. By the way, Chris, get there big fan of yours. Thank you so much. You as well. Thank you. Yeah. I've been holding a secret. What is it? I had an idea. Get out of here. Sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:26:41] I'm going to push you. Thank you. Thanks for putting up with that, Chris. No, it's my pleasure. We have these guests sometimes. I really sometimes wish Griffin wouldn't open the door. I got it. I got it.

[00:26:54] And when they're here, I show my respect by standing in total silence. He was a sergeant during World War II. That's right. A colonel. Sure. Colonel Nick Fury. Yeah. Isn't he a general at some point? He's got to be a general. I mean, he's gone through there.

[00:27:08] He's in charge of shield. Yeah. I mean, he's in charge of shield. More than anything though, title I think he wears the proudest friend. You know, good friend. Agent as well. Agent. Of shield.

[00:27:20] Now he had a bit of a downtown look to bring it back to as good as it gets. Oh, Nick Fury. Yeah. I mean, that's how I looked. Mid-90s downtown. Down here if you know. Yeah. I looked like a white Nick Fury. I patched.

[00:27:32] Streak of white hair. Yeah. Duster. Yeah. Blue and white jumpsuit with a lot of straps. Cigar always smoking half a stokey. He was. That is such a 90s comic book thing is just like they need more straps. A lot of straps.

[00:27:44] Just can we have like straps vertical diagonal, like all kinds of straps. Yeah. I mean, you two are both like big hardcore X-men people. I'm a big X-men. That's your major. You know what I've gotten into recently that I never read as a kid?

[00:27:56] That's I think maybe the best run of comic book I've ever read. Shoot. Have you read Walter Simonson's Thor? Yes. I have. That's amazing. So inventive. That's the one with like the frog Thor. The frog Thor. The Bader Ray Bill. Bader Ray Bill is my favorite superhero now.

[00:28:12] Bader Ray Bill is the best character. It's so insane. He's amazing. I've never read Thor. I got a... Oh, you got to get on it. Did you buy a book or have you been online? Marvel Unlimited. Yeah. And then I liked it so much I went and spent...

[00:28:29] Too much fun. I asked for Christmas for the omnibus. Right. I love those omnibuses. Omnibus. Yeah. That was your wife Christmas ass. Yeah. I mean that's a big endorsement. He also, I like his fantastic Thor stuff a lot. Yeah. I mean I've read that. We had X-Factor. Yes.

[00:28:44] But this Thor stuff. The Apocalypse X-Factor. Yeah. Like the old X-Factor stuff. Yeah, yeah. Back when Apocalypse was just kind of like a big guy. A big unexplained. Yeah. Just a big good guy. Bigly threatening. That was that era.

[00:28:56] You look back to when it was like Apocalypse at Mr. Sinister. Mr. Sinister. The 80s. A lot of villains were there. It was very hazy back stories. Right. Where it was like people to Chris Claremont and people like what's the deal with this guy?

[00:29:09] And he's like oh no I got it planned. I got it planned. We're just going to push that off for a couple more years. What's his power? He looks fucking cool. Yeah, Mr. Sinister's powers never are really explained to him. Never loved him as a kid.

[00:29:19] He's the best. I love his name. Great name. Rad look. Cool downtown look. But I stopped reading at a certain point as I grew up to this day. I do not know his backstory, identity, motivations, why he does any of the things he does.

[00:29:32] Did you ever get to like executioner song or how did you tap down with that? I read executioner song. Because he was part of that. But it's sort of a side part of this. It's part of Inferno too. Oh of course. That's classic. That's his big.

[00:29:44] Where Chris Claremont's like I'm going to tie up the cable mystery for good. It's going to make sense. Inferno is fucking bonkers. Yeah. I tell you, with Marvel Unlimited I read Simon's Thor for the first time. Sure. Read Frank Miller's Daredevil. Rered it. Which is great.

[00:30:00] I especially like Frank Miller when he was just still just drawing Daredevil. Yes. But it made me realize I'd always been such a Claremont devotee. I think Claremont comes in third place as far as my war runs. Well his is also endless though.

[00:30:13] Him and his peak is amazing. Frank Miller on Daredevil is so short. Right. And then Simon's Sin is much longer but you can tell that's the thing. It's one of the only comic books runs I've read where you can tell he knew the ending before he got hired.

[00:30:26] He knew that whole story before he sat down. Claremont's X-Men, I mean it goes and it's impressive the back to back to back story lines that are such hits. Yeah. But my heart was breaking a little bit. I found things I liked better than Claremont's X-Men.

[00:30:41] I'll say this, as good as it gets, a lot of solid performances in that movie. That one performance rivals the performance of the guy who played Kit Fisto. Well I was going to say you're complaining about Oscar Isaac. You're playing with Poe Dameron.

[00:30:57] It sounds like you want like a Fisto there. You know like pull Poe out. You want like a Fisto presence. Let's say somebody call this guy in the shit. A real wrecking crew rather than someone who's like you know trying to be the rebel.

[00:31:09] To be fair one of the things you liked about the wrecking crew in Kit Fisto in particular was that he was willing to break the rules and go against his higher ups if he thought he knew what needed to be done to get the shit done but he never put lives at stake.

[00:31:22] Well there's the difference between being like a Ronan who goes off on your own. Sure, which is classic Fisto. And that's like Wolverine in the X-Men. Wolverine sometimes needs to go off on a mission where he's going to kill a lot and put himself in harm's way.

[00:31:34] He walks away from fucking Salem Center and they say you can mention to go do those himself. He doesn't put the X-Men in harm's way. Here's an individual who pursues. Poe Dameron is in a ship. He's on the comms. He's part of a concentrated organized effort here.

[00:31:48] I'm sure they've had before he gets out there with those bombers, they've had a whole lot of strategy meetings and a whole lot of goals and a whole lot of objectives laid out when they accomplished them and say get the fuck out of here.

[00:31:58] Because we need those weird, admittedly poorly designed and useless bombers that need... Very strange bombers. ...that are vertical and move at a snail space and need to be directly above their target to have any effect. To be fair they're easy targets to provide.

[00:32:14] Get them out of here to live another day dickhead. My biggest problem with the bombers was that if you just shoot one of the bombs inside them the bomber's gone. That's it. All the bombs go up and that's that. Like maybe a shield.

[00:32:25] I'm not putting it on Poe that those are perhaps the most useless weapons of war. Strange. I've never seen... Yeah, let's park all our explosives into what looks like a floating test tube and it just needs to... Like at a helium balloon pace. It needs two people too.

[00:32:41] You need someone to open the doors. Yeah. So what do you think Fisto would have done in that situation? How do you think he would have handled it? Listen, the whole movie... You get Fisto in these movies and none of these movies need to happen.

[00:32:53] It's like 20 minutes long in the movie. Yeah, it's one really. He personally infiltrates... Snoke. Yeah. Yeah. The fucking... that guy who's in every movie now, Dom Nall Gleason. Yeah, right. He'd be dead. Yeah. Farmer Gregor himself.

[00:33:08] Dom Nall Gleason could play Chris Gethard and Chris the Chris Gethard story. Don't you think so? Put some glasses on there. Right. Because I just saw him in the National Lampoon movie where he's wearing the glasses. When David Wright Wayne directs his early days of the UCB movie.

[00:33:20] Yeah. That would be featured in that. Now, here's a question about my glasses that I think you guys as pop culture trend setters... That's what we are. Yeah, definitely. We moved the needle. You are almost like the watchers of pop culture if we're doing a horrible universe.

[00:33:36] That's a huge compliment. I've been contemplating getting Lasik. Oh wow. And one of the writers on my show, Nicole Dressbull, sat me down and flipped out and was like, you keep saying that you're going to ruin your career. Like the glasses are too important to your life.

[00:33:49] The glasses are like a totem. I mean, Weird Al did it and he survived. He did a whole kind of look. He also had to shave the mustache with it. That's true. He had to do a kind of rebrand. You didn't have to change it up.

[00:34:02] But he did it. He needed an update to be fit. He did it. It's true. It'd been 15 solid years. I'd look at this more than I do. Right. I do think it could... It might be a Jennifer Gray situation though, you know? Right.

[00:34:14] That's what you always think of. In what sense? She got a nose job. She got a great kind of Jewish nose. Pointy nose. Right. She becomes a big star, is in Ferris Bueller, is in Dirty Dancing. America loves her as this very relatable sort of girl

[00:34:28] and then she got a nose job in her career diet. And she looked too conventionally pretty. And people stopped like... Do you think that's why? Or is it just she's another in a long line of you're not allowed to be a young female star with longevity?

[00:34:41] I mean, is it just the excuse? Complicated question. Is it just the excuse? You also think of... What's her name? Terry Russell with the haircut. Her hair. Can I give you a... Terry Russell and the Americans by the way. Good stuff. Oh, do you not watch the Americans?

[00:34:54] Great performance. I do. I do. Oh, the Americans is... The most recent season was a little thin. I wasn't pleased with the most recent season. I'm glad it's now wrapping up. I hope the final season is... Yeah, and they can get it back. You know.

[00:35:05] They didn't push it past the tipping point where I gave up but you'd love the Americans. I'll watch it. Just the use of wigs alone. Oh, American wigs. Wigs. Lot of Fleetwood Mac. Oh, the fucking Mac. Yeah, the Mac's there. Lot of Macs. Lot of Wavecats.

[00:35:18] The Mac is back, baby! We have not mentioned as good as it gets. All right. Three or four. I want to say this. I personally made two passes to get it back out check. I am not the host of this show. I know.

[00:35:31] I was enjoying the Star Wars talk. I want to say one last glasses then. I feel like the fans want it. Yes. Oh, sure. I think you should keep your glasses. But I also... I think I'm going to wear fake glasses as well.

[00:35:39] Yeah, so this was a thing. You could just do that. That's what Drew Carey does. That was my scoop I was going to give you. Really? I think between when the Carey show ended, when he started doing prices right, where he kind of went off the grid.

[00:35:49] He also lost a bunch of weight. He lost a bunch of weight and he got lay sick and he couldn't... No one accepted him anymore. They were too weirded out by how different he looked. So he now wears fake glasses.

[00:35:58] I just don't want to keep buying glasses the rest of my life. I love glasses. Oh, interesting. See, I'm not glasses wearer. The act of buying glasses seems fun to me. I just bought two pairs for variety. Here's the thing that we both know.

[00:36:11] You fall asleep in your glasses two times. Yeah. And your glasses are just wrecked. Interesting. It's true. They never fit right again. Huh, all right. And I love watching TV as I fall to bed. And you gotta watch it. Context? Do you not like contacts?

[00:36:24] Yeah, I tried contacts in high school and they... I found... Because I'm such an OCD worrier, I would think they had fallen out when they hadn't and then I would touch them to make sure that they were there and then I'd tear them.

[00:36:35] I have a TV pair of glasses now. You do? Like an old pair of glasses that's shittier. I have a junkier pair that I wear on the couch. That makes sense. Watching TV when I might fall asleep. New ones, maybe I'll keep the old ones for falling asleep.

[00:36:47] That is very practical and smart. Hey, look. Having a pair of junky TV glasses is as good as it gets. As good as it gets. Now, Chris, when we told you we were doing a James L. Brooks mini series, this is the one you wanted.

[00:37:04] Even more than that, I sent you a list of... Yeah, locker. Multiple mini series we were going to do. The Paul Verhoeven was on there, right? A couple we haven't revealed yet. I believe what I texted you back, Griffin, was the one thing I will say about...

[00:37:14] This is a movie. It's funny and I will say too, I copped it, Griffin. I did not have a chance... I've watched it in the past six months actually, coincidentally. I did not watch it like in the past couple days, which I should have. I apologize.

[00:37:25] I think that's fresh enough. Getting back from a vacation and I've been scrambling to get my way. But the one thing I'll say right away is I love a good unapologetic dickhead character and I've been thinking about it for this podcast.

[00:37:36] I think Jack Nicholson in this might be in my top three. Oh, wow. He's a third of three. An absolute horror of a human being. But in a way that he is so brutal with it that it becomes funny and lovable,

[00:37:49] which to me is a real hard comedic acting thing to pull off. And I would say Bill Murray and Groundhog Day. I was going to ask you other guys. Does it better? Sure. Then perhaps one of my number one comedic performances, Steve Martin and Plains, Trains and Automobiles.

[00:38:05] Yes. That's a beautiful, it's up there in that pantheon. That's a Ben favorite, I feel like. Maybe my second favorite comedic movie. Because those are all difficult and we love that movie. Plains, Trains and Automobiles. Yes, I recently said, you know who steals the show?

[00:38:20] My wife's favorite actor, that dog in the back of the truck in Plains, Trains and Automobiles. Now it shows Steve Martin shivering and then John Candy shivering and then that goofy dog is shivering. I feel like you saying that he is your wife's favorite actor,

[00:38:35] which implies that that's her favorite performance, but that she follows his career closely and like his entire body of work. There he is. But yeah, I mean Jack as the... There he is. Yes, that is a good dog. The frosty face dog.

[00:38:49] He looks a little bit like the ice dogs from last year. Yeah. Crystal Fox. Crystal Fox. But yes, Nicholson as a dickhead and I think a pretty smartly written funny... Your term was total dickhead when you texted me. You said, I just checked up.

[00:39:02] You said, I love a good total dickhead movie. I love a good total dickhead movie. What I love about... Or what's hard about a dickhead movie is the guy actually has to be off horrible. Right. And like that's just so hard to pull off

[00:39:13] and then make a movie about him. And then sit through 90 minutes to two hours of it. Yeah. Two hours, 20 minutes. This is a long movie. That's a two-20. 140 minute movie. It's actually kind of a perfect plane movie in that sense. If you're traveling a lot to watch...

[00:39:26] Yeah, it has like seven acts. Like right? It's one of those classic 90s like Jerry Maguire where it's just like, let's just do like a whole other movie in the middle of the movie. It definitely feels like a Netflix season.

[00:39:36] Like this movie would be a season of a Netflix show now. Had you seen this film? I had seen it probably on TV when I was like 13. So no basically. Yeah. So I was like watching Pretty Freight. I knew like the basic movements of it. Sure.

[00:39:51] Because I had seen this film way back in the day probably like you, probably on TV like a couple years after. Oh and I had watched it. I was young because this movie... I was young because this movie is the 97. I was 11. I was 17.

[00:40:02] I'm surprised I didn't see it. This movie was beloved. This movie, I mean, was the sixth biggest movie of the year. It was the sixth biggest movie of the year. During a hot year too. The Titanic year. That was a stretch. 97, 98, 99 were good years for movies.

[00:40:19] I'm going to give you the 97 top 10 movies. Titanic, Men in Black, Lost World, Jurassic Park. Liar, Liar is four. Which like, wow, like Air Force One. As good as it gets. And then here's what's below as good as it gets. Good Will Hunting. That's below. Yeah.

[00:40:38] My best friend's wedding tomorrow never dies. Face Off. Whoa. Batman and Robin. Con Air. Be Batman. Be Bond. It was a thing. I remember it was a thing. I remember my parents loved that movie. Everyone's parents loved it.

[00:40:51] They loved a movie that the first scene is someone throwing a dog down a garbage shoot. And then there's like a good five minutes of homophobic abuse. That movie filled top to bottom with slurs.

[00:41:00] Perhaps one of the ultimate movies that is a reflection of societal changes from 97 to 2018. Yes, that's true. I would say this on the way here too. There's a phrase that I don't know if it's been coined, but I would like to coin it. Sure.

[00:41:15] It's a real benchmark in the, but I like her, genre of movies where a woman very politely, rightfully and justifiably refuses a man's advances. And then a lot of the movie is the guy going, but I like you until she caves. Say anything, maybe being the number one.

[00:41:34] Obviously say anything's a huge one. Say anything's one of my favorite movies. And I actually haven't watched it in years because people have told me that the modern look is concerned. We did a couple years ago. We talked about it.

[00:41:43] The best way to watch that movie is be like, ooh, that kid's got some growing up to do. Right. And then he's like, oh, I'm a graduate because I like her. Well, the graduate is insane. I actually rewatched that recently and he is awful to her.

[00:41:57] It's a stalker. Like he, right. He fucks her mom. Yeah. This is true. It doesn't talk her once. He fucks her for like months. And then like ruins her wedding and then, and harasses her.

[00:42:08] Like when she's 40 and he is never allowed to be in her life, she's going to be like, God, that was a weird three years, you know? When he fucked my mom, then broke up my wedding and then made me date him for a while.

[00:42:20] And then made me take a bus? Yes. Take a bus. Take a bus? That's a relationship where when they were in it, there were people who said to her like blink twice if you need help and she did. Yeah. She eventually blinked twice.

[00:42:32] The problem is I think the, but I like her genre. Great job coining that. I think unfortunately almost every romantic comedy falls under that. A lot of romantic comedies with not a lot of plot fall into that. Yes. And this is one of those.

[00:42:47] Cause you know what it is. It's, it's. But in this movie, he's a monster. And obviously it also is I'm going to smack you down. I mean, I actually think where are you out until, but look at Groundhog Day,

[00:43:00] another one, but in a way that I think actually is more commendable. This is a guy who basically goes from, I'm going to try to use this situation I'm in to trick Andy McDowell. Basically, I mean, I'm sort of almost.

[00:43:11] I will figure out her whole life so I can just like. My modern definition. You're almost using this weird time travel you loop to rape. And you watch him do that a number of times. He does it with the blonde woman at the restaurant.

[00:43:22] He does it with Andy McDowell, but it doesn't fucking work. It always blows up. And then by the end, right? He does legitimately realize I need to become a guy. Yeah. He's a much better person who's much better at jazz piano. Right. Much better.

[00:43:36] It's so much better at jazz piano than he had been. Have you seen the trailer? There's some new Netflix movie with Adam divine. Yes. Where it's Groundhog Day, but like with a friend zoned guy. It's with and there's some, is there some time travel?

[00:43:49] It's sort of like about time. There was the night, the one magic night they had together where he didn't have the courage to kiss her. And now seven years later, he's friend zone. She's getting married and somehow he finds a time portal

[00:43:58] where he keeps on resetting to the night. To try and find a way to make it work. It looks sweaty. I'll say that. But I think as good as it gets, I think one of the problems I have is I don't know, it's Melvin, right? Yes.

[00:44:12] Brace yourself for Melvin was the tagline. Brace yourself for Melvin. Accurate tagline. Something has survived. I would, I don't know that I buy Melvin's growth. No. As much as I built by Phil Conner's growth. Interesting. Well, we'll talk about it. Melvin makes some big steps.

[00:44:30] He does take some big steps. Although I'm on the fence because... I have a big take. I'm on the fence because there's a part of me that feels like Melvin kind of wins a little more than I think.

[00:44:40] Beginning of the movie, Melvin wins a little more than I would like. But I do like that this movie promotes the idea that the mentally ill deserve love. I do like that. So this movie's take on mental illness and obsessive compulsive disorder.

[00:44:53] I'm not an expert, but I don't know how like thought through it is, right? Like it's... A lot of times it's just sort of an excuse for like Jack Nicholson's asshole. Right. I feel like Nicholson worked a lot on the asshole aspects of the character.

[00:45:06] Like how do I make this engaging? Nicholson's one of those guys where like the audience is always with him. Even if they hate him, you're like willing to follow him. So it's like... Jack, it's not... Jack! The one actor who could have pulled this off.

[00:45:18] But I feel like his depiction of obsessive compulsive disorder is kind of like what you would do if someone pimped you into that and improv scene. We're like, I had no time to prepare this. Fuck, I'm gonna go way too big with this. What do I do?

[00:45:32] I just touch shit and throw out four bars of soap. Yeah. Like it feels very... Although I'm sure there is... But then there is also the thing of, you know, there are... Being someone who notoriously has mental illness,

[00:45:42] you do at times you can use it as an excuse to just be an asshole. Yeah. So there's also something that... Which this guy does. Well, that's absolutely what... Maybe it's the most well researched movie ever. So I had seen this movie ages and ages ago

[00:45:54] and then I rewatched it on vacation because it was on Hulu and we were just like, fuck, we need a movie. Yeah, a Hulu movie night. Yeah, seriously. And I was like, as good as it gets. All right, like I put it on

[00:46:05] and I 10 minutes in after a dog got put in a garbage can and Greg Coneer got berated for five minutes about like being a quote unquote fudge packer. You're describing the first 72 seconds of the movie. I was like, wait, wait, I forgot about this.

[00:46:20] I knew he was a jerk, but like this is so brutal. And then 10 minutes in comes that scene where he makes the remark to Helen Hunt about her son and the movie literally just stops and she just stops the whole movie and she's like, you can't do that.

[00:46:34] This cannot sustain two hours and 20 minutes. It's such a frightening and amazing scene. And I was just like, wait, is this like an amazing perfect, like not like a weird like staggering movie that I've just forgotten about? And I was then I came back to you

[00:46:49] and I was like, we got to do James L. Brooks. I definitely think this is a movie that works in spite of itself. Like it's somehow add. I like this. I'll go on record. I like it. Oh, I really like this. I really like this movie.

[00:47:00] Yeah, I got issues with it, but I like it. I don't know if I'm allowed to. It's one of those things where it's like, I saw it in 1997. Yeah, I am. Is this is the fact that I'm like, I like this movie reflective maybe

[00:47:12] of the fact that I'm hitting in one of those ages where I'm like, things were different in my day. Watched it recently and I know I because everyone loved this movie when it came out. Yeah, I have definitely heard people be like,

[00:47:22] I rewatched that shit doesn't hold up and people who like swore by it in 97. Well, I have two big questions wrong. I have two performance questions in this. One of which I think might actually bring this podcast to his fucking knees. So maybe I should hold back.

[00:47:35] That is one question that I had was is being growing up, being born in 1980, Northern New Jersey. Sure. Yeah. In an era where homophobia, like the treatment of gay people in both society and pop culture extraordinarily different. Yes. Extremely different. Right. From my perspective.

[00:48:02] To give you some perspective, this is a year before the TV show Will and Grace debuts. I would say a game changing moment in cultural depiction. Not that it is. No choice is so. I'm sure many American Studies majors have written articles about Will and Grace in college.

[00:48:17] Yeah. Like from my perspective, and I don't know your guys' perspective being younger than me and seeing it post release. I felt like Greg Keneer's character and the way that people turn and treat it was one of the first things I ever saw

[00:48:33] that was a gay character treated non-cartoonish. A three dimensional gay character on screen. Even though it's sort of a proto version of maybe like better takes on this. I also think Keneer's performance is pretty phenomenal in that regard because I can think of very few examples

[00:48:49] of straight actors playing gay characters from this time period who are not so grossly over the top. And all this stuff where I'll say this, there are some times where he talks about his dad and the soulful eyes of Greg Keneer.

[00:49:04] Greg Keneer is crazy good in this movie. He's the best performer in the movie. The soulful eyes of Greg Keneer. The soulful eyes of Greg Keneer. Tug it your heart strings in a way that I can tell you for a lot of people who I grew up around

[00:49:15] probably the first time they felt sympathy for a gay person. And this is a guy who a year or two earlier was the talk soup guy. He was the talk soup guy. It's not like this is some character actor of one's like, oh yeah well Keneer, he's good.

[00:49:29] Keneer has a couple crazy years because he's the talk soup guy. For four years. Then Sidney Pollock and people thought his pipeline was, oh he's going to be a late night talk show host. Everyone thought he was going to be the next Craig Kilbourne or whatever.

[00:49:43] He was going to get the late late show or whatever. He probably could have been. 100% could have done that. That iteration of talk soup too was can't miss television. He was killer. And the guy fucking megawatt charm. Crazy soul flies. Great fucking patter.

[00:49:58] He's just got a good rhythm to his speak and everything. And then you're saying Pollock puts him in the Sabrina remake. Right, Sidney Pollock, Academy Award winner, plucks him to start a remake of Sabrina one of the most adored or manicomies of all time.

[00:50:09] Here you are with Harrison Ford and you're the co-male lead in this movie and everyone went, the fucking talk soup guy, what are you talking about? It was like it's like if fucking, Christopher Nolan cast like a YouTuber to star in like his next movie.

[00:50:24] You know, it was like... He did cast Harry Styles. He did. But it's almost like that where it's like, that guy shouldn't be your serious filmmaker. Sure. And that movie is a disappointment. Yes, and then there's also Dear God, a Gary Marshall movie. Right. Let's not forget.

[00:50:37] Which at that point... Which is also a disappointment. I think that was like a stacked vehicle where they were like, oh, Sabrina's going to be huge. We got to get a canneer vehicle in the can. Right for the next year. That's why I feel like one of the,

[00:50:47] to me and I'm sure you guys have your own talking points. But to me as I was on my way here today, one of the questions in my head on the subway, as goes as it gets, is it peak canneer? I think so.

[00:50:57] I think it has to be. Because this is the, this is the fulcrum point. I'm sorry to bring that up so early. We got to talk about it. There's a sigh you let out. No, but you're right. Because it's literally, canneer's career starts in like 91 with Talksuit. Right.

[00:51:09] This is 97. There's been 20 more years and I think it's all a downward slide. He's a mystery man, right? So good mystery man. He is very funny and mystery man. Captain Amazing. Captain Amazing. What happened to canneer? Captain Engine Hold is the other guy. Is that your-

[00:51:22] That's the thing, they thought he was going to be the leading man, then James O Brooks gives him this fucking great role as the other guy. He gets an Oscar on. People go, okay, we accept it. Canneer, serious actor. Not the Talksuit guy anymore. Serious actor,

[00:51:35] he can sit at the table. But then you go, what are the next couple of years? His next movie is you've got mail. He plays the Baxter in that. He's the bad guy. He's the dude you got to get out of the way so you can get hanked.

[00:51:44] Then mystery man. He plays pretty much the Baxter in that as well. He's the fucking dumb hero. You got to get out of the way nurse Betty He gets his head his scalp cut off. Mm-hmm cuz he's he's real baxter in that there's a real dickhead

[00:51:58] the gift loser It lose her he plays creepy college professor. Yeah sleeping with Mina Savari Jason Biggs Wants to date the girl of his own age so and she's sleeping with some 40 year old dude someone like you in 2001

[00:52:12] He's another that's another other man like Judd goes from him to Hugh Jackman He's playing a lot of assholes weirdly for a guy who's that charm and there's always the other guy the dilemma and then in 2002

[00:52:22] He makes autofocus which ever oh here's an Oscar Oscar movie about a guy who would film porn in his apartment And was also on Hogan's heroes

[00:52:34] This is making me wonder and then stuck on you in 03 with Matt Damon has anyone's is caneer in the running of uh of People whose agents have done him wrong probably but I also wonder if caneer is like he's poorly managed careers

[00:52:48] This is why you need a manager. I think he's playing assholes He might I think he's got that Bill Pullman look to where he just is sort of like somewhat generically handsome without enough like To distinguish himself

[00:53:01] Anytime he pops up I get so excited. You know what he's pop is in a trailer. I go. I'm seeing that You know what he was great in what breaks be bare last year really liked him in that

[00:53:12] Really good performance. I'll say he's a guy who I think has become even more interesting as a character actor since he's gotten a little older

[00:53:18] Because he kind of had that Kendall face. He was like a little too perfect looking yeah in a way that isn't even really sexual It's just like that's a well-designed face like that looks like an emoji That's a mid that's a Midwestern American right face

[00:53:31] And you get some crevices in there and the guy starts to have a little more weight him like certainly They're best-looking kid in an Iowa town who moves to California and makes it right. Yeah, 100% so

[00:53:42] He don't know where he's from great in here. Yeah, let's find out. I want to look at some recent can hear He is from Indiana. I mean yeah He's the son

[00:53:53] He's the son of a career diplomat. Oh, of course Edward can hear of course that says name and Suzanne We're gonna choose a year Indiana Logan's port Indiana Logan's port. He went to the University of Arizona this guy. How was this guy not like? he could have been

[00:54:14] He could have been a leading man Can I could have been there's there's a there's a world. I wonder some recent slept on can hear performances He married a model in 1999

[00:54:24] Then still together so together. They have three kids. Really her name is Helen Labdon. I mean that's lovely sure and lab didn't If I can just run down a couple slept on I like the way Chris just said Helen lab didn't

[00:54:37] She looks like a nice lady. I don't know the weird is like an X model We're forgetting the single worst career decision from can hear which is flash of genius the movie about the invention of the windshield

[00:54:48] It's like the joke Oscar movie where it's like they literally made a movie about the guy who invented the window wiper What if we could wipe the windshield and it's two hours

[00:54:57] Isn't it a movie about he how he got like screwed out of the invention or something? Is that what the story is? Yeah, right? He is crazy good

[00:55:07] Crazy fucking good in the Nicholas Sparks written Miley Cyrus starring the last song never saw he plays her father dying of cancer Who she sent to stay with for the summer interesting now. She's got to live on a farm

[00:55:20] So what would Liam Hemsworth yeah, that's a spark their relationship Yeah, most recent can hear the most recent is can you're still cranking a big announcement recently? It'll be less recent by the time this episode comes out right

[00:55:31] He's on house of cards in the wake of Kevin Spacey. He is the new guy They're adding to sort of that's I don't know if that not recasting but but we need a new heavy hitter This is not happy about that's like Robert Patrick

[00:55:45] Replacing to Covney on the X files right sure it sure except it ever covney is an acrimonial No, and of course people will be more justified right Kevin Spacey needs to go yeah, but uh

[00:55:56] He did that movie same kind of different as me which is like he's been doing a lot of It's weird cuz it one of the churrake right remember that where it was a stake on his face you to remember

[00:56:12] Rake the movie about a guy with a stake on his face no you're the only two people I've ever heard mentioned this crazy crazy Caneer credit I just found in the Anita Hill bio pay

[00:56:25] Sure, I carry Washington HBO and need a hill by right Greg caneer played the role of Joe Biden. Oh, yeah, yes. Yes. Yes. I crushed that. It's so funny

[00:56:37] Nominate I mean it Emmy nominee it's crazy to me to realize we're diving so hard into this because it makes me realize I don't think there's too many people out there who don't like Greg caneer

[00:56:46] I don't want to spoil this but we had a guest on for an episode that hasn't come out yet Who cited Greg caneer as her number one crush? What? Really? For an episode that's coming like in the future. Oh, no, I remember okay

[00:57:02] And I won't look good representing the untapped potential. So that's my old man guy Greg caneer He just seems like a nice man. He does and almost like

[00:57:12] Yeah, yeah sure and just like a pro just a dude who's like a steady hand like I was going through that filmography And it's like doesn't matter what he's in. He's fucking delivering time cut and I mean Think about I certainly think in the 90s, right?

[00:57:27] You're a straight actor They go hey big deal great games up Brooks wants you for a movie, right? You have to play gay at that time that was viewed as like toxic Yeah, if you play a gay man in a Hollywood film that might kill your career, right?

[00:57:40] That was like the level of homophobia within the industry Don't even think about coming out of the closet But if you're straight and you play gay the audience is my turn on you

[00:57:48] They might think you're gay, right? Sure. That was like the insane thinking sure and most actors who did do it would go So big so swish or they would be written as cartoon. Yeah, but but the actors would also I think

[00:58:03] Lather that on even thicker because it's like I got to make this so different from myself because I'm so not gay But this has to be a total transformation great. Can you just kind of place this role like Greg can hear

[00:58:13] Yeah, one of the few times I think he's styled, you know, he's got like the open shirts I'm talking about his art is form so talk about his right thing His choices when you go just to his face. Yeah

[00:58:24] Well, he the things only he has a saying is the king of the close-up on the face This movie has so many close-ups on four faces. Nicholson hunt can hear and that Right at the start where can you rings on his doorbell again? and

[00:58:42] Nicholson opens the door and delivers like two minutes of Invective at this man and can you're like, yeah, it's not a subtle point you're making his eyes are like shimmering He looks you're immediately again

[00:58:53] It's this movie that like stops your heart like with all this like infinity pulls a feeling But it wants you to feel like what an asshole he is like how much it hurts the people Yeah, right other than just like oh, he's an asshole

[00:59:06] Yeah, it's such a New York way in such a New York way where it's like that's the motherfucker down the hall Yes, speaking of such a New York thing Oh Get the door griff. Oh god. Why is it so dark in here if sunglasses on? Oh, right?

[00:59:22] He's not taking I don't know who he's applauding sitting in the front row Oh, it's you again. It's me Jack Nicholson I love you on screen, but I really hate you as an interrupter ready to rob another man's rhubarb

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[01:03:01] That's being dropped. Okay. Is this a thing that's gonna bring a certain days? I think it could okay I don't know if it will because you guys are very good at what you do and very adept at handling curveballs

[01:03:09] You try but something really revealing just happened in what you said David sure leads into the question you mentioned So many great performances can hear hunt Nicholson the dog, right?

[01:03:21] You left out someone who I have a question. I have a question that we're all gonna have to pause Yeah, it's a big question. I think I know your question is is this The other good Cuba Gooding Jr. Performance

[01:03:35] Is now is there any competition? I'm trying to think because boys in the hood. Yeah, he's good in boys Yeah, Jerry McGuire Yeah, snow dogs. No, that's not let's not cuz I mean a universally real a vile and mocked downfall of maybe unprecedented proportions

[01:03:55] I mean he won the Oscar for boys in the hood right for Jeremy for Oscar winner So and when this movie comes out, that's the next year So he's an Oscar winner. I'm my guess is he might have filmed this before he won me

[01:04:06] I'm interesting phenomenon. I think of a big part first movie to come out after the actor wins the Oscar a Roll they probably wouldn't have taken if they had won the Oscar before like I think right post Oscar

[01:04:18] He would have gone like I'm fucking Cuba Gooding Jr. I'm first builder nothing I would say between boys in the hood and Jerry McGuire This guy is like like he's supposed to be what will Smith felt like he was the

[01:04:31] Dude as far as you know, I mean yeah for sure an industry that tokenized people on means that there's only gonna be a Handful of people from each demographic if you're not a white guy, and I just I'm sorry

[01:04:41] I just saw his next three years after this and like they put him in starring roles You know cuz he had instinct chill Anthony Hopkins yet chill factor

[01:04:51] Which was an action movie with Skeet Ulrich of as good as it gets one of those ice cream truck based thrillers That was speed but it has to be cold right the speed but the bomb It's him in Skeeter work Plays the the

[01:05:08] Scumbum model who beats a Greg Keneer? Yes, he's in this movie they clearly just hit it off so hard at the craft service table on as good as it gets That they said we got a fine a vehicle for the two of us

[01:05:19] And it's they got a bomb if the bomb isn't cold it will explode. I think they're in the jungle I think they're in some sort tropical location So they've hijacked an ice cream truck and they got a drive it to someplace where it can be

[01:05:33] Oh, I know what's gotta remain below 50 degrees Fahrenheit. I have not seen it I this is what I remember about chill factor vividly You know those trailers where it's a comedy, but they want to make you think it's like a serious movie at first until they cut

[01:05:47] To the reveal of like Chris Tucker on the other end of the phone Yes chill factor is one of the only trailers I've seen that pulls that off successfully

[01:05:55] Where the first the misdirect in the first 20 seconds of the trailer is so boring that you're like this isn't a comedy They've re-edited to look like a thriller and then you get to Cuba and Skeeteric hamming it up. Okay. Yeah

[01:06:11] And then men of honor in 2000 which is like an oscarim movie about the first black Naval diver and like Robert De Niro plays his like yeah Captain right another movie that does not exist and that definitely doesn't exist and then Pearl Harbor in 2001

[01:06:27] You know where again, he's playing a real-life military hero, but that movie obviously didn't know yeah You know and then he's when does radio come out? That's 2003 and that's that the senior snow dogs Snow dogs is oh to Barbara and rat race in 2001

[01:06:44] He's going big in that one and then snow dogs boat trip You've got the fighting temptations the launching of Beyonce's acting career. She'd already done gold member. Oh, you're right That's the right and then radio. I mean Radio's rough

[01:07:05] Someone on his team one of his own agents like took out a fucking nail gun whose wife did Someone pushed him into a coffin and then took a nail gun to it That boat trip radio snow dogs all within 18 months Norbit he plays

[01:07:31] The Greg Keneer like he plays the other boyfriend that Andy Newton has to leave plays the Baxter Orbit was it was that Eddie Murphy and Eddie Murphy and Eddie Murphy That was like a nutty professor. He plays Norbit. He plays Rospusia Norbit's

[01:07:50] And he plays the the Chinese owner of a Chinese restaurant who adopted Norbit Chinese I've seen Norbit and then but then you know then a couple years ago. He's OJ in the OJ show

[01:08:03] Which I thought it was very good and he's good in that and you're like, oh, yeah Cuba not a literal depiction. I like that. He didn't even try to impersonate him obviously physically doesn't match him

[01:08:10] That was last two years now. I mean 2018. Yeah, very good. And it felt like okay. Here's the second wind He's gonna capitalize on it. What was I mean? Can I so I think I want to get back to Chris's question before he raises another question

[01:08:23] Yeah, cuz I have a very tangential question. Okay. Well, what's your tangential request for you too in particular? Here's something cuz as someone who enjoys you guys Yeah, thank you and here I mean the fact that you know cuz I should just note for anyone listening

[01:08:36] David has a computer and you're getting the dates with that. Yeah, but Griffin has no computer And and and your details of movie like you're getting the factual information the logistical information on that computer

[01:08:47] But very clearly there are times where like chill factor comes up and you're looking away from the screen You guys just know things about chill factor concert of contact. What is the worst movie? You have each seen in the theater that you've paid to see

[01:08:59] Book of Henry. Oh, oh, but I didn't pay I paid to see captain underpants and then after captain underpants ended snuck into book of that doesn't count That doesn't count doesn't count. It's the worst movie. You've paid full ticket price to see

[01:09:13] Good question. That's a great question. Can I think on it? Yeah? Can I can I know mine? Yeah, what's yours Martin Lawrence Black Knight? Never saw that one. He goes back in time. He is at a medieval times like restaurant

[01:09:27] Falls into the moat and wakes up in a real medieval environment He's black so that's weird They're all like what do you know? Do you know what you're a great comedian? No cuz you didn't say black night

[01:09:40] You said Martin Lawrence black night as if his name above the title is an important I'm sorry what makes you a great guy? That's what you a guy that had a sitcom that people loved I think rightfully and then after I think and also

[01:09:53] Went insane. Yes, and this movie has to be rooted in the insanity part of his brain Speaking of insanity breaking news over the wires Guess who's in talks to play the Joker in Todd Phillips's standalone joke Wow topical ties right into Jack

[01:10:08] And this episode comes out in June. Yeah, this is April so Todd Phillips Yeah, it's a Joker movie. Okay. Can we actually guess because So they're abandoning Jared let already possibly right now

[01:10:22] They're saying they're gonna do two different jokers and this is gonna take place in its own universe come on DC agree And of course is why they're there so I'm on record many times over DC comics is the fucking wacky shit

[01:10:34] It's so wack get it together you famously have led the charge to have Washington DC be renamed Washington Marvel Come on, it's our capital. It's a stain on our nation that's named after DC comics This is an Oscar

[01:10:48] Nominated actor not when three time Oscar nominee. I'm pretty sure maybe even four give me the age with no win Four-time nominee with no win held to see I mean my guess is he's in his 40s. Yes. Yeah early 40s Bradley Cooper no, okay, it's someone who's

[01:11:07] Not only three time only three time Supporting stuff or or is he a leading man more character? He was used to be a character actor now. He's a leading man This feels like a question you should definitely

[01:11:21] He's someone you might think of for a role like this background in comedy or not no No, he's a very serious act very serious sometimes I think he's a little too serious about being an act, you know that is like why so serious

[01:11:35] I've comedy points. Is he like is he like a very like look at me method actor? I think he is a bit Sometimes I refer to this man. It's walking Phoenix. Yes. This is slice of ham between two pieces of bread

[01:11:50] You say he's a ham sandwich. I do I Could see him being a decent Joker Can you how do you feel about this? Like I walk the walk? I'm down for walk a mole at any point in time

[01:12:03] You let you do you like him. I like him a lot say I Really appreciated his performance and gladiator. He's good in that a movie that I saw when I was 18

[01:12:12] Great, it was built for an 18 year old boy. Yeah, I think he's great in gladiator. I think he's great You know, I love him and I'm still here when he makes fun of Ben stiller to his face I've never seen I'm still it's so

[01:12:24] Funny what a Ben movie? I love the movie It's so great then you need to write a book about like Ben's favorite favorite scum bum movies where you're like leaning on the cover

[01:12:38] Yeah, I don't know if I think that's a good choice. Oh for the Joker. Yeah, oh Joaquin Phoenix an 8 millimeter by the way really good performance That is a fun performance in a bad movie

[01:12:49] Well, I like that movie too hells yeah, I snuck into that movie and here's what I'll say about that movie I don't know if I like that movie. I saw another movie that I forget what it was

[01:12:58] But it was bad and I left and snuck into 8 millimeter having Researched zero percent what it was and all of a sudden I'm watching a snuff film movie But I'll say I don't know if that's a good marker

[01:13:08] I'll say I don't know if that's a great movie and maybe this is something that they stole you guys can tell me but the technique of Being in a house looking for someone, you know is a fucking dangerous psychopath and there's a vinyl record playing and

[01:13:21] It runs out and then you hear the needle get reset from another room is that's a terrifying chilling moment I wonder if there's an earlier example of whatever what a pretty brilliant scary way to say no

[01:13:33] Yeah, I'm in the house with you motherfucker, and I'm not even scared that you're here I'll let you know that I'm here. I once saw an run certain interview

[01:13:40] I mean it's good story telling I want certain interview with Julia Roberts and James Gandolfini when they made the Mexican And they were just they were just chatting and the guy asked like what's the worst movie you guys ever did like

[01:13:50] What's a movie you guys regret and Julia Roberts said flatliners and James Gandolfini said 8 millimeter and then Julie Roberts said we both said Joel Schumacher movies I feel so bad like it was it was a very candid moment. Wow, yeah

[01:14:04] I think we've talked about him a lot. Yeah, all right as good as it gets do you think Cuba Gunning Jr. is good in the movie? Big performance it's big. It's big. He's doing a lot of stuff. He's coming in real hot

[01:14:16] I knew this one was gonna be divisive. He's coming in real hot And he's really coming in. I don't know where I land on it. I will admit I started watching this movie, right? There's he Nickleson fucking with the dog throwing down the shoot

[01:14:26] Yeah, can hear confrontation and and then he's Nickleson starts saying some incredibly racist stuff after like First he ladles on two minutes of homophobic bullying then Cuba Gunning Jr. is in town

[01:14:38] And anything he says the thick moe lass's line. Yeah, and this movie is really trying to have it taken Eat it too because it Definitely makes it clear that this guy's an asshole and we're supposed to think he's an asshole

[01:14:51] But also they could have just had him gone, you know slur slur slur instead. He's throwing out zingers Ideally James L Brooks wants the audience to be like laughing and going like oh my god

[01:15:01] I can't believe he said that I think oh, I don't think not relating to him But it's like I joke construction. I feel like that's the needle they're trying to throw it which makes a little uncomfortable

[01:15:10] No, I think that would that would be true if he weren't then cutting to their reaction so Powerful which I think is the same grace of the movie. Okay, cuz there is something said for James L Brooks is good enough at what he does

[01:15:21] To capture that idea of He is kind of like your fucked up uncle right sure that you love him He's got a couple speedballs and like you and your cousins and your siblings when he's out of the room

[01:15:33] You're like that was pretty crazy would have said but kind of hilarious like but the other thing about Melvin I think that you sort of quickly realize is like this. It's not like he Melvin is

[01:15:42] Someone who subscribes to any belief system at all. He just needs people to not be near him So he is he radiates It's like he barks if people are like within his range like he and of course early on keep a good engineer grabs him

[01:15:55] And he's like no touching no touching and like freaks out. Yeah, but like you know Nicholson is You know, this just like electric do right like Nicholson owns any scene any frame He's in sure even when he's understated

[01:16:08] He just has this like live wire energy and then when Cuba comes out to confront him Cuba like kind of acts him off the screen for a minute or two

[01:16:16] Sure, I'm just I'm not saying in terms of like also Nicholson needs to be sort of drinking empirical acting quality This is when he's getting in his face Right This was a moment where I think Cuba's greatest strength was he had more energy than any other actor alive

[01:16:29] I mean, he wasn't afraid to be big. He wasn't afraid to be big and like German wire. That's like a lot of fucking energy I'm not saying that in a bad way at all obviously with Jeremy Guire and great in that right unbelievable

[01:16:39] But with this it's like he's just coming in so fucking hot and we're in a movie That's already like walking on real fin ice. Yeah in a lot of ways and can near I think is so sensitive

[01:16:50] That's what it is to me because can near can he's so good at playing such like a sensitive shrinking violet Yeah, and Cuba can't Cuba. He's good in it, but it's an early sign that he's not versatile No, he's got one he's that's exactly it

[01:17:06] Yeah, and then you know when he does OJ all those years later You're like has he been versatile and just never bothered to be because you're right for 10 plus years your boat trips

[01:17:16] Yeah, you're snow dog. What is he versatile or did someone just very smartly say I think Cuba good and can do this OJ I think it was that it's not like that OJ went in too many different directions in so much of that show

[01:17:28] He was just like I don't fucking get what people don't get about yes I this and I am the center of the world and this and that's a thing through it in his lap And it's good

[01:17:34] I think the OJ thing is kind of like Mickey Rourke in the wet wrestler where like that character fits his That's like he still can't get over the fact that people don't love him as much as they did in 1997

[01:17:46] Like I was cuba going junior was top of the world And like that's how he feels he feels like OJ Simpson in prison cell now What was it boat trip snow dogs and radio back to back to back?

[01:17:56] Yeah, that's three years like oh one oh two oh three that is I mean yeah, it's brutal This is his career is like a boxing match Where he comes out in the first round and knocks his opponent down three times and it's like jitter bugging over him

[01:18:10] And then the guy comes back Well round fight where he walks away with CTE by the end of his whole life Like his liver dissolves in my round eight. Yeah. Yes, okay So this is a movie with a lot of plot or no, it's a long movie

[01:18:26] Yeah, I think it has a lot of plot is weird because actually doesn't have a lot of yeah Like it's not like a lot happens in the movie. Yeah, it's just about three people who Sort of come together. I think the Amazon prime description was

[01:18:39] A touching story between three unlikely characters. I mean Helen Hunt in interviews said this was not intended as a romantic comedy But as the we're making the movie

[01:18:50] We were like, I think this is a romantic comedy interesting and then when they filmed the final scene James L Brooks was like Try kissing her like you know and they were like alright

[01:19:01] Let's try that like they were not it's this is not explicitly planned as like it's a movie about these two people A bunch of like oddballs and it was gonna come to them being like you saved my kid and we have this understanding

[01:19:12] We can be friends now exactly was about them changing. I almost would have liked that better Because I do think the romance is the biggest the toughest cell of this movie Yeah, like yes

[01:19:24] And I also think they can have the same effect on each other without it having to become a sexual thing Yeah, like I prefer reading the you make me Want to be a better man speech without any sexual charge literally just you are an aspirational figure to me

[01:19:42] No, but that's what I think is the point of the movie. Yes She is turned on or attracted turned on is too strong. Yeah by the idea that he wants to change for her because that's such a

[01:19:54] Crazy thing to think of I also think I would say that line as we bring it up is one of the great like three-point shots wish Dialogue it is that's Brooks, right? Well that being like my experience to again

[01:20:08] Just my age seeing in the theater like this was I didn't know who James I'd never heard of James L. Brooks. So you'd never seen broadcast news or terms of endearing no But I mean you'd watch the simpsons out his name

[01:20:20] He was a name on the screen for the simpsons and then I watched this and was like Whoa, holy shit. Who is this guy? In a way, I've maybe only had that experience like as far as like realizing that movies are made by people and the people can

[01:20:33] Make choices that define it and they have their own styles Yes, it was Brooks and Cameron Crowe show the only two people that I and came on Crowe was like his protege Brooks was the guy who got say anything. It's Jerry McGuire and say yeah

[01:20:46] But they have a very similar tone and sort of like touch and mix of Emotions and I wonder I don't know what Brooks is really Cameron Crowe worships at the feet of Billy Wilder

[01:20:57] Yes, when I got older and smart enough to look up old movies from him another one who has that similar Versatility like every direction. Yes. I mean, you know Brooks massive sitcom guy moves to movies at a time when that was not

[01:21:13] Really viewed as possible wins three Oscars in one night for his debut movie huge success terms of endearment Then broadcast news which we argue is even better, right and then doesn't make a movie for like seven years

[01:21:25] Well, right creates the Simpsons. No seven years. Yeah, and then makes I'll do anything Which is like a disaster So this is definitely his movies this movie he has to get his groove back Like he's trying to avoid a Cuba Gooding 2002 2003 run

[01:21:41] Yeah, and this script wasn't originated by him whichever the movie he's done This is someone else's script Punched up this dialogue a lot. Oh, yeah It's all here. I want to be a better man is like a distilled

[01:21:55] Core statement of all movies and it'd be one thing if he said that 20 minutes in but James O Brooks is like That's 90 minutes in and it's gonna take he there's gonna be flim-blam with the yeah

[01:22:05] He needs to get a jacket. There's gonna be a conversation about lobster for a while Like take the breath out of the theater. Yes, I think they went, you know, there's a script kicking around Sony

[01:22:15] He needs to make another movie quickly because he's got to get his mojo back, right? He doesn't have time to incubate a script for another eight years and they go look here's this thing It's kind of interesting. I did we never been able to crack it gay painter

[01:22:29] misanthropic OCD novelist and Single mother just trying to escape by with a chronically ill kid sure and he kind of takes that and and Redoes the whole thing right and also guts it, you know, right work with Nicholson on terms of endearment He wins an Oscar, right?

[01:22:44] Nicholson also pops up in broadcast news So but maybe he's like I'd love to give him a lead role like I want to do a real Nicholson movie Right and this is where Nicholson is he's already I guess he's still making like maybe a movie a year

[01:22:57] Right, I'm surprised. I didn't see this movie in theaters. Hey, you love Jack I This is the same year as Mars attacks and I was which he's great all fucking about Mars attacks in both Jack Nicholson

[01:23:08] Performances blows the roof off. Yeah, I mean was into that. I was into fucking adult dramedies Like as a ten-year-old I was like I love a nice soft adult drama Jack just as the Joker right sure to me that was the exact kid of my age

[01:23:25] Yeah, I was nine when Batman came out Yeah killed it and I remember I was old enough to remember the dialogue that people like wow This is one of our great serious actors. What's he doing? Right and then he killed the Joker. He did yeah great performance

[01:23:41] This town needs an enema This is the last movie he makes before he becomes Once in a while Jack. Yes, because the next movie makes is the pledge which is four years later Wow, and then anger management's like two years

[01:23:54] Then you got it about your anger management something's got to give which are all in So all in two years and then the departed and then the bucket list and then how do you know like if that's it?

[01:24:03] You know he's a crazy sad. I was surprised by looking at the Wikipedia page for this movie This is his second highest grossing film ever only behind Batman that Movie is a fucking huge hit it was huge

[01:24:18] We're gonna talk about that don't you worry like this was like okay? Let's just make a solid like late period Jack Nicholson comedy and then people went bananas for it Yeah, I mean did and this is kind of like in a certain way is

[01:24:31] Like the sort of softest cheery as Jack Nicholson movie like it's a movie about an asshole But Jack Nicholson usually the movies he's in have a harder edge right yeah, and he's a little more lovable in them

[01:24:43] Right, and this is kind of like flipping it where it's like this is like a very nicely shot Like upbeat Hans Zimmer score movie with like shit hole Jack Nicholson Right because the earlier movies like in the 90s like wolf Hafa right well blood and wine

[01:25:01] The animal is out as well. Did I need you guys see wolf? I've never seen well I've never being so confused my parents went to see wool like that was like a because I was like seven

[01:25:11] I think when that came out that was like some like dinner and a date movie That was part of that loose Unofficial 90s trilogy of monsters who fuck which was Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Bram Stoker's Dracula and wolf

[01:25:24] Nichols direct anything after that. Yeah, cuz he made closer. Yeah Charlie Wolfson's war Yeah, he made a few movies weird Gary Shanling movie what plan are you from yeah? I remember Gary Shanlings alien sex comedy which I believe Greg Keneersen

[01:25:37] I would have there isn't almost had a chance to meet Mike Nichols and I didn't follow up on it And then he died. Yeah. Oh man. He also made primary colors and the bird cage So wolf was just like a weird hiccup

[01:25:51] Smooth career. Yeah, but I mean like on paper not a bad idea Nicholson and Pfeiffer like modern werewolf thing That pitch was definitely just satire Jack Nicholson plays a werewolf and they went here 70 million dollars. That's exactly the budget

[01:26:07] When I was on anchor man to very very small role only showed up in the special edition Judd Apatow was on set and I'd met Judd once before and we were talking And he was very nice and he mentioned that he had just met Mike Nichols

[01:26:21] I was like, I've always wanted to meet him because out of all that early cuz you know He was like one of the first improvisers Nichols and may Nichols and may compass players second city founder I was like I've always wanted to meet him and talk about improv

[01:26:32] Cuz I always got the sense He was like the smartest of that first wave and he's like he loves talking that improv He loves it shit Like I sat down to talk with him at directing and he kept bringing up improv

[01:26:42] He's like we should all three sit down because you could really get him going on that And I was like, oh yeah, but I didn't think Judd was serious and now I know Judd much better

[01:26:49] Yeah, and realize how he was totally serious you could have taken him up I could have sat with Mike Nichols and just talked about the earliest days of improv

[01:26:55] That would have been amazing would have been such a geek and it sounds like he would have loved that conversation Like be able to just talk crap with someone Nichols would be good. Nichols would be good

[01:27:05] He's got a lot of movies. I'm gonna fuck me wolf mother fucker made wolf some people forget mother fucker made wolf You regarded Henry Casting Henry. Yeah, I don't know

[01:27:16] We're still on the first five minutes of this movie. Yeah, we're doing fine. Yeah, so Helen Hunt. Oh, yeah So you got Melvin you got Greg Keneer and then you have Helen Hunt winning an Oscar as Carol Connelly

[01:27:29] Right, she's a waitress comes the first actor got a sick kid win the Emmy and the Oscar in the same year That's right. She's riding hard. I'm out about you right real brassy Dame

[01:27:39] Yeah, light affectations of a New York accent. Yeah, which I think she could have done without I think no one else in this movie is doing any sort of New York accent and it does you don't go

[01:27:48] That's weird that they don't all sound like truck drivers, you know that they don't all sound like I mean in Brooks's conception of the movie. She's she's a Brooklyn girl Generations I mean the moms in the movie still her mom's in the movie by Shirley Knight

[01:28:03] She's a neighborhood people and they live in Windsor Terrace. That is Windsor Terrace Those are blocks. I recognize and they you know the last scene is in front of a bakery in Windsor Terrace

[01:28:11] I Irish neighborhood and you can see terrace bagels in the background, which is where I go by my bagels That's like old-school Irish fireman and cop the fireman neighborhood now. Obviously it's like Park slope adjacent

[01:28:22] So there's still that one bar full of townies that hate the hipster fucking scary That's what I heard in that bar and it's scary like sometimes because there's the hipster bar across the street

[01:28:31] When it's full you're like, well, why don't we just go like you walk in there and you're like, oh, no Here oh, you know the legend of this Windsor Terrace It has a very bland name. So I'm trying to remember it

[01:28:43] It's always there like mocking me. It's like a because Noah form and grew up in Windsor Terrace And he says it's been there forever Yeah, it's like the last stronghold of like old Irish working class firemen There's also Jackie's Fifth Amendment on in Park slope

[01:28:57] That's a great name which is one of the best name bars ever But that's Park slope, you know because Park slope is also an Irish school, right? Yeah But uh, yeah anyway, I'll say something about Helen Hunt feral sparrows. Thank you. Thank Jesus. Oh

[01:29:12] Yeah, Helen. Now it's a little inappropriate. Oh, and I'm putting it out there Yeah, see if you guys finish the second half of this thought I Remind you I was a 17 year old boy. Yeah, I know where this is going. Yeah

[01:29:25] Do you know the scene that I'm referencing? Yeah, the way to the but devil formative those four made of sea Yeah, as someone cuz you gotta remember 1997 the internet was not sure right You couldn't sure you have to think on video was buffering video was buffering

[01:29:39] You would only hear rumors about I think that actress got naked in this movie You know and the same way you'd hear like I hear this movie has a scene where dudes head explodes Yeah, like it'd be like cool things you want to see in movies

[01:29:51] We're like here say the wet t-shirt scene was one of the prime Me going outing yeah me growing up Well, no, it's because she was on TV to Chris and I are somewhat close and aging

[01:30:02] This was very formative for me. Uh-huh, and I think this is sort of where I was like wet Better then like slick flicks He thinks all movies are better wet well

[01:30:13] It's just like you could make a dry movie or you could get a rain machine and get that shit soak it Have you ever seen toxic Avenger 3? Uh have not when 50 50 naked Japanese girls run out of a communal shower in a locker room Wow

[01:30:26] It's a jersey picture tail. Yeah another formative another my uncle My uncle had a copy of toxic Avenger 3 and we watched it Although the first time I saw a boob national lampoons European vacation see that that's interesting interesting Interesting is it?

[01:30:44] No, but the hunting is what I'm turning over because like I have a I have a bit of a crush on Helen hunt in this movie now I do yeah now that I'm watching 100%

[01:30:52] I love that scene where the guy is putting the moves on her and he grabs the boob and gets the throw up You know early yeah, and she just gives him a sort of like You know like she shrugs and she's a strong mom

[01:31:04] She's strong when she does stuff like that And then later at the end when Keneer is like I can paint again She was like what night with me like I bet that just gets me a thing about her in this movie that

[01:31:16] Antithetically almost makes her more attractive to me But also is why I think this performance works. I love this performance. She seems really tired at this movie She's tired a lot of times when it's like the put-upon single mother

[01:31:28] You're like no you look like you're dealing with this to okay Helen how you feel the weight in every shot of this when Nicholson early on is like what's with the dark circles like yeah What are you fucking tell me my life? Yeah, exactly?

[01:31:40] Come on now this character is supposed to be in her 40s Uh-huh hunt when she plays it. She's in her mid 30s interesting I feel like she's playing it like she's in a really 40. Yeah, and I think she sells it

[01:31:51] The plot is that he goes to this restaurant every day. She's his waitress. It's part of his his routine He has strict like he's got a tap dance around the cracks sure yes to throw the dog at the garbage

[01:32:04] What I love about that thing where it's like he needs to throw the dog in the garbage We don't know why the dog pisses him off. No, it's the first thing we learn about the opening shot

[01:32:14] He's had enough of this dog picking up the dog so he can throw it in the garbage It's also like it's pretty audacious of Brooks to be like I'm literally gonna do the opposite of save the cat

[01:32:26] Yeah, this they say the cat I'm gonna throw out the dog this dog that literally just looks like a muffin with two eyes Like that's the dog the dog doesn't even have a shape where you're like how does this dog's body work?

[01:32:38] The dog is definitely like it's a new like pastry like gimmick that people would line up around Right, it's like a pound cake plus a croissant or something Yeah, and people have to remember the marketing campaign for this movie because I hadn't seen it when it came out

[01:32:51] But I just remember everyone was fucking talking about the dog the poster is smiling jack sunglasses Holding up the dog and I just remember my grandma being like griff you gotta see this movie this dog

[01:33:01] You won't believe the things this dog does the dogs the fourth lead of the movie 100% it's a four-hander you put him not just ahead of Cuba good but did not mention Cuba good junior Nicholson hunt Can hear dog it's a four-hand It's funny as we talk about it

[01:33:18] I feel like one thing I've never realized about this movie that this conversation is proving true to me This is like a real New York movie It is but it doesn't wear it on its sleeve like some classic New York movies

[01:33:28] But the idea of you got some asshole down the hall you gotta deal with you got you got your favorite restaurant You see the waiter all the time the waitress all the time and you don't know anything about each other

[01:33:37] But you know each other yes, that's such a New York thing too. I also this movie Because it feels anything that's indoors feels very sound-staging in this movie But the exteriors are all like real New York is we're saying yeah and down to have

[01:33:52] Nicholson's building is like right around where I grew up And so this movie activates a lot of weird nostalgia stuff for me for like storefronts of places that closed when I was like In my teen years and stuff It feels very New York

[01:34:06] It truly does while being a very like heightened kind of glossy movie Well also just those dynamic things like him leaving the restaurant and everyone applauding Yeah, he is playing a character that everyone in New York has at least tangentially seen yeah

[01:34:22] Right like some guy where it's like what's that guy's problem like you know, it's nothing more Trying to get where we're going Shut up. We all want to eat bacon like it's or whatever we all want our breakfast

[01:34:36] It's not but it's not about you got the weird look Jack Nicholson designed the wardrobe for this Let me tell you Literally so did himself Daniel Day Lewis style Let me tell you what the trivia fact says he wanted the character to have a downtown look I mean

[01:34:55] Do you agree I would argue mission accomplished In downtown uptown. What are you thinking? Where does he live? Do you think he lives in the West Village? Right, he looks right exactly. Yes, of course. We see where he lives right and where she lives in Windsor Terrace and

[01:35:14] Yeah What are you looking at Griffin nothing Griffin's got his phone out I don't know what I gave him props for no phone in it. I'm maybe learning something after later. Okay I Think he pulls off the downtown look because downtown motherfuckers don't give a fuck

[01:35:33] I say this as the most notoriously chill person of all time downtown Griffin nooms Never a worry the epitome a cool, but he's skating by on charm fucking downtown cool He's not like this and he's not like evoking like a war haul

[01:35:51] Coolness. No, no, but the 90s. I'll say this be Gibi's coolness That's what you think when I think downtown. I think right arts I think Nicholson is thinking of like 60s downtown Like coffee shop like cafe. Wow. This is what I'm gonna argue. I'm gonna argue that

[01:36:07] Mid 90s West Village was very uncool Mid 90s West Village sure yes, very that's like we're coming up on like Magnolia Bakery West Village, right? Right, right and it's a little past like 80s grit and grime West Village, right? I think this was a kind of dorky period

[01:36:26] But this guy would fit this was the dude I would see in my local library and he literally lives on the block of my local library in this one. I Buy it all right downtown Griffin nooms himself. Yeah, okay

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[01:37:48] I mean, look, I heard about Bruce and Laurie. Okay. I actually have their pictures right here But I heard about them married June 18th 2011. That's already Coming up on seven years of good marriage let alone the courtship leading up into that

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[01:40:47] I feel like maybe I should ask you harmony out. It feels like let me take your shot shoot your shot All right, we're on minute 20 of this good. We're gonna wrap this up soon. Yeah But what happens really quickly is Gritkin ears doing doing okay in his life

[01:41:03] This is the other thing the opening of this movie is Melvin's a dick for 10 minutes. Sure. He meets the weight You meet the waitress sure Greg can hear is beaten half to death by a gang of street prostitutes Jamie Kennedy including Jamie Kennedy the cruelest xing of all

[01:41:23] Portrait painter like that's what he's doing. That is definitely not a thing that's happened in the 90s Brooks is missing like he did in what was the other movie though? Oh the chef was a profession

[01:41:38] Sure, where it's just like it. This is not a good portrayal of a painter This is a bad portrayal. He just wants to go to walk around until he looks like a

[01:41:50] Do not live that way come on can I tell you what the West Village was like in the man There's more downtown download Leather duster tiptoe around cracks painting portraits, that's what everyone's doing seriously though

[01:42:08] I think that was well past the era where you could be a portrait painter and afford to live In an apartment with a green Because the movie acknowledges how expensive the apartment is by creating the conflict of he can no longer afford it

[01:42:26] And it's like bitch you couldn't afford that to begin with like maybe he's a conceptual artist Okay, then he can afford that apart. You know right maybe he's like a piss Jesus type Then it makes sense to me there could have been more Giuliani in this movie

[01:42:41] That would have been fun like you know, he's fighting Giuliani It's my Giuliani is the fifth character of this film. Oh, yeah I mean he looms large over the procedure. This is the New York. He was just cleaning up

[01:42:52] That's that's that's what I heard you were talking about as good as it gets I wondered who was gonna be the first one to bring up piss Jesus Believe it was piss Christ was the technical man That was a big

[01:43:08] Was the scene where he's like alright skeetal work pee in this Crucifix in there the scene where he draws her though. Yeah, it's beautiful It's a wonderful yeah

[01:43:17] And I'll say this more so than Titanic this same year where they want you to be like aghast with Jack's drawings Sure, these drawings are actually impressive. They're by a real artist Billy Sullivan a New York artist Maybe he was a downtown artist. I don't think so

[01:43:31] Do you think here's the thing I'm realizing too Do you think the success of this movie explosion is that in a year where it was like Titanic men in black all of a sudden Here's this like a movie for ground a thoughtful character piece Yeah

[01:43:41] And I just think that this movie would just like you said it would just be TV show now Right, it just like that just one there's no space for it I mean right that's like terms of endearment was the second highest grossing film that's here behind

[01:43:52] Empire Strikes Back. Is that right? Yes, that's right, right? No return of the Jedi return the Jedi Sorry for right 83 she mongers please look that's fuck you're serious. It's 83. Yeah, that's fucking son of a bitch What? It's it's you got a fight about this. I did bar trivia

[01:44:09] And you had to there was a question where it was about you had to do the math and the early reference point was if you take The year return of the Jedi came out and then subtracted blah blah blah they were every three years was 77 80

[01:44:22] 83 yeah, that's what I haven't 80 83. Yeah, and then they said it was 80 they had the year wrong They're not yeah, yeah, books and liars But so right the inciting incident in this movie half hour in is that great canary is savagely beaten right by a very attractive bunch of

[01:44:38] Street prostitutes get tax who are robbing his home of the 14 crystal sculpture that's that he owns He does have a lot of crystal sculptures, right which which I do feel like is I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this I

[01:44:52] Like that the movie very casually sets up without having to explain it like this guy's a target because of homophobia Like these are desperate kids living on the skids, right? They want to rob him but I get the sense they would not have beaten him where he straight

[01:45:07] Well, and there's even the Sure, they're yelling shit at him like there's like the gym carol, right basketball diaries Yes, I'll let you jerk me off in Grand Central Station and then if you look me in the aisle punch you in the face

[01:45:19] Right right kind of that New York. That's the skin or a carrot I feel like that is a very real more 70s 80s thing But but the movie doesn't make a big meal out of it being a hate crime because it's just like that's the world can

[01:45:30] Ear expects to live in like he hates that he was sure but he doesn't expect anyone to show him any respect but because of this yes, Melvin has to take his dog gotta take that dog and

[01:45:41] That is I guess what James L Brooks has decided is the emotional core of his movie Is that they can walk in that dog first time in his life?

[01:45:51] Melvin understands what it is to love a thing about anything one could say it becomes as good as it gets I mean the scenery walks into the shrink's office is great I love that scene anywhere where the shrink is like, okay, Melvin like you know

[01:46:06] And then wait just the idea of him walking into the waiting room and saying what is it? What if this is as good as it gets that's another James L Brooks must have just thought about like how

[01:46:14] How better to ruin eight people's day? Yeah, just put that in their minds and walk out What if this is as good as it gets a thing that is very interesting about this money to me is like six

[01:46:27] Directors who are not usually actors all appear in this film Okay, give me give me him because I mean you have Harold Ray messes the doctor Who's so good so go one scene performance just just nails it you have

[01:46:43] Who's the other way I Lawrence cast him Lawrence Kasdan as the shrink screenwriter of Empire Strikes Back Rares of Lost Ark plays the shrink with the new the new goatee

[01:46:54] I also regra my beard and you don't seem to care about that Melvin Shane black plays the manager of the cafe Oh, I didn't know that director of Iron Man 3

[01:47:03] Cut me from his film was he nice. He's very nice. That's good. Yeah, I love that movie Rat Ratner plays Helen Hanson There's another big one oh Todd solans is the guy on the bus

[01:47:17] Todd solans is the guy on the bus. Yeah, there's the scene on the bus. What is it? I think it's Helen on the bus and the kid and her kid is chasing her Yeah, and he's like she's like leaning over and kind of getting in the guy's face

[01:47:30] And it's welcome to the dollhouse director Todd solans just sitting there awkwardly There are a lot of directors in this movie Clearly he just was like I don't want to have some buddies on set

[01:47:41] The guy who plays the kid who plays the kid is called Jesse James, which is weird. Did know that yeah Did you also notice Maya Rudolph playing a cop? Yes? I'm sitting this movie for a second. Yes. She's one of the cops cleaning up

[01:47:55] She was already on SNL no, this is 97 a lot of people's when she's missy pile before she's like She was one of the waitresses that when Maya Rudolph was just like a back backup in the rentals Yeah, you know that she was in that weasel spin-off. Yes. Yes

[01:48:08] This is she had also been a nurse on Chicago Hope for five episodes, but this is her first film role She doesn't get snl till 2000 Maya Rudolph who knew so trip they go on a road trip. I love a road trip

[01:48:21] I love a road trip but like what's the plot? Yeah, he gives the dog bacon and then the dog leaves and he cries Yeah, and he realizes what it is to have a connection to something

[01:48:30] But also Helen Hunt has stopped working well that's right the kid's sick kids to sick So he sends the doctor to cure her entire life Go goes to the publisher and says I can't write my book unless you hire a doctor. No your husband

[01:48:44] We all are mentioning that he paradoxically writes romance novels He's a mean son of a bitch. Do you know what I mean so well? I mean classic line is I take away all reason and accountability

[01:48:55] I didn't take away reason and accountability. You know who said that that's a real line from a real author John Updike said that Oh, really? Yeah, James. Oh Brooks thought that was funny

[01:49:04] Did he wait was up? I don't know much about up dick was up like dead or did James Al Brooks have to go get permission He's still very alive. Yeah, I think he's just trolling him Yeah, that's a pretty brutal troll

[01:49:14] Good troll because if you want to get angry that James Al Brooks stole your line You then have to take credit for that all the most misogynistic Ridiculous, it's like he's pretty much calling up Dyches Bluff

[01:49:26] That scene where the doctor is there to and it's like it's such and even now it's so resonant where it's like Oh, just the idea of like normal health care is enough to change this starts like crying

[01:49:36] Yeah, and Remus was like when he gives him a business card where he's like my home numbers on there And it's like he just like spoke in like a thulu language working-class broad who's doing it on her own

[01:49:47] All of a sudden mom gets to cut through all the red tape and bureaucracy and bullshit and phone calls There's that great question. He asked where it's like have you ever had a test when he wasn't sick?

[01:49:57] Right, like you've only gotten him tested when he's already in the emergency room because there's a problem Right. Have you ever tested him in like a normal state? It's like no Can't know we didn't think that was possible. Yeah And and we should point out a pretty funny

[01:50:13] Melvin does this ostensibly because she's his favorite waitress and he wants his life to stay exactly disrupts the order He spends presumably thousands and thousands of dollars so that she can still serve him

[01:50:27] Yeah, breakfast food his insane breakfast food order, which is like Daniel Day Lewis and Phantom Fred level Yeah, he'd like wants pancakes bacon sausage coffee with cream. What else is it? And then they go on a road trip because Greg can hear is out of money

[01:50:45] So we need to ask his parents for money and and he weirdly like still has no respect for Greg can hear But loves the dog so much that he can't lose Greg can hear in the building has a little respect for him

[01:50:55] Because there's this scene where they're calling the dog to each other Yeah, and Nicholson Melvin actually wants the dog to go to can hear he likes that it goes to him But he does want it to go to can hear that's the scene where he visits can ears

[01:51:08] Post-beating makeup is very odd in this film Especially the trajectory of it because the first time they go to the hospital when he like yardly Smith Lisa Simpson herself is crying She's the one with the mirror

[01:51:20] He does Lisa Simpson. Yeah, no, I know you're sorry. Sorry. I'm three o'clock high, right? I think Brooks just likes to have a second right went or no was she Because he had no

[01:51:33] Which which classic 80s movie am I think like the underground it was a three-o'clock high I think it's fair. I think it was legend ability gene. She wasn't I want was she in both She wanted to tell me how old yard Lee Smith is

[01:51:45] Who has been doing the Simpsons for 20 plus years? I'm say 50 you think you have a three o'clock high. She wasn't three o'clock high But was she also maximum overdrive was she not in the legend ability is in the legend of Wow

[01:51:57] You ran the tape on the 80s. I would guess your this is 65 65. What are you guessing 57? 53 years old. I originally said 55. She's a young woman. Yeah, I whole life ahead of her She's playing Lisa for 24 years. How long the show?

[01:52:15] 28 yeah, many generations of her family don't need to work because of the Simpsons Until like yeah, there's war right that wipes out all humanity Until the American economy falls and maybe she even already has it until someone's just like wait we give out residuals now

[01:52:33] I like you know someone finally 200 years from now Think about how much money James L fucking broke That's what James Lf Brooks taxi Mary Tyler Moore Was not here that was the Charles, but then Lou Grant rota the Mary Tyler Moore spin-offs. Yeah, there's another big one

[01:52:49] I'm forgetting I don't know already he's like Taxi Tracy Almond obviously yeah, that's it taxing merit or were the two yeah, it stinks I mean and it didn't so they go on a road trip. Yes

[01:53:06] I'm just finishing us. He has lovely leather gloves and he has a bunch of so many weirdly labeled CDs for different Yes Situations yeah different emotional moods. Yeah, he also has a weird sports car. Yeah

[01:53:20] I really like the touch that even when they're not driving like when he goes into the restaurant He's still wearing the leather glove being that outside of his comfort routine has to wear the random

[01:53:31] Random jacket at the restaurant. Yes, doesn't it hate it and then has to go next door He goes next door to buy clothes but doesn't want to step into the store Okay one other side okay along the line of how many director cameos there on this

[01:53:46] You notice the scene where he goes into the Restaurant he starts on some real anti-Semitic heat just to round out the trilogy Jacobson 15 years before I know it's weird. It's weird. It's funny. It's a funny moment playing two Jewish targets

[01:54:04] I know well Brooks. He I guess he just wanted to get that in there, too Yeah, but no, I also just like that when caneer and hunt meat. They're like They're immediately friends because they're just like what is it?

[01:54:15] Nicer to be in a movie with someone who's chill. What about the letter scene though? We need to talk about that for a second. Don't we there's that scene which letter where she reads the letter to him thanking him

[01:54:25] Well, that's isn't that the wet t-shirt seam. No, that's before Her coming and saying I'm not gonna sleep with you Yeah, she flips out runs in the rain to let him know I will never sleep with you

[01:54:35] Which I don't think is something that's occurred to him until that moment his reaction to that is so funny, too Where he's like waited we own open for the no sex pledges until nine in the morning or something. It's a good line Jack you are my number one

[01:54:50] Guy, but I feel like that isn't that the moment where he has Every dance with the devil and I can't do him ever rub another man's rhubarb That's still my favorite one the letter scene is nice, too

[01:55:05] Because I think that letter is written very accurately from the sense of like this is a waitress who grew up in Brooklyn This is not somebody did great in school, right?

[01:55:14] This is not someone who knows automatically how to express this these fancy book learn and your big ten dollar But also is reading it down to a professional very successful novelist. Yes, I think it's so well Yes personality never shows up right pretty good subtle touch

[01:55:29] So his personality is so mercenary that he can just make all of these emotions pluck them out of the air Yeah, but that when she says I want to have sex you is when he's like I guess finally like oh

[01:55:39] I am as great can hear puts it a horror of a human being yeah Like like no matter how kindly I behave and that's what can you're does so well. There's that I mean it's like what?

[01:55:49] Fucking planes trains and automobiles that moment where you as the audience even though Steve Barnes clearly a dick or like Yeah, but fucking John Candy this guy is a nuisance. I'm with him right 30 minutes in like early in the movie

[01:56:02] They do the I like me my friends like me my wife likes me speech where you realize like oh fuck And you got a live in that moment like this is a real guy with feelings

[01:56:11] Caneer just keeps on fucking keeping that dial in place because that scene where like Nicholson comes in as just delivering body blows and it's like I went to fucking Urban Dictionary here like six more

[01:56:23] Like gross names. I'm gonna call you and then just like one can your close-up is just like now This fucking sucks yeah, and Nicholson like can't keep doing it like he loves throwing out those those killer zings

[01:56:37] But not change in automobiles the weirdest ending of any movie ever very weird and yeah or easy rider Maybe easy riders got a weird. It's going for weird. Yeah This movie has a weird ending. Yes, but but first there is that painting scene

[01:56:52] That's the emotional breakthrough caneer needed not his forgiveness from his parents right well, right? So that's the idea, but then Hunt and Nicholson go out for dinner

[01:57:02] The lobster dinner scene right and hunt has been complaining about the fact that she doesn't have any time for a social life right Which that's that's pretty much like her Oscar scene right?

[01:57:13] Are you kidding me? She has like 50 Oscar yeah in this movie. I feel like you're too down on hunt Like she deserved the Oscar. I see I I'm not down on this performance, but I can't believe that either of them one

[01:57:25] The last movie for the actress and actor one best actor like together from the same Well, it was up who else was up that year against her. Oh, let's talk I wonder if that's part of your bid bitterness if you subtly remember who else is there

[01:57:37] That's what I'm trying to think because this was definitely the first year I was like very engaged with the Oscar Helena bottom Carter wings of the dove no chance Julie Christian afterglow She has two Oscars. Yeah, never seen that movie good movie Judy Denchin Mrs. Brown

[01:57:49] Which most people think should have won right? That's a ridiculous opinion and Kate Winslet and Titanic who is young yeah, I mean that's not a very loaded year Yeah, yeah, and then walks away with it

[01:58:00] She does and like yeah Judy Dench should have won for Mrs. Brown. It becomes like a weird Oscar pretty much She shouldn't have why she gets the fucking Shakespeare That's called Harvey Weinstein. That's called good campaigning by a monster some other things are called Harvey Weinstein now

[01:58:14] I don't think that's the first thing that comes to mind. Here's who Nicholson beats okay Robert Duvall in the Apostle Good performance, but he has Oscar Bob Duvall Peter Fonda easy riders own and you leave gold

[01:58:26] It was a very good performance, but not gonna win doesn't Hoffman and wag the dog. That's not gonna win He has two Oscars yeah Matt Damon and Goodwill hunting I would give him

[01:58:36] No, I would again. It's a day man. Oh, I think he's I think he's bad at that really Yeah, I don't that only press or miss at all I love Matt Damon, but I remember Jack Nicholson's performance a lot more. Yeah, then

[01:58:50] How do you like them Apple I Love that line and I love apples Diplomatic answer from Ben Hosley So Nicholson wins there Weird so those were not big acting yet

[01:59:02] No, cuz Titanic is sort of just running the town and then LA confidential is the critic hit of the movie of the year Right, but that's not a movie with like lead performances. Are there three men in it? I just on a plane

[01:59:16] Long flight hander hooks 24 hours of flying with the transfer Watched many movies. Uh-huh LA confidential was very clearly the best option Never seen it didn't watch it Didn't want people to walk by and see me support a Kevin Spacey on the plane

[01:59:32] Yeah, he's in that one like do I really want to watch Kevin Spacey movie right now? Feel that way. I can't watch K-Pax the public anymore Your typical lunch movie. Yeah, you set up your iPad roll on K-Pax your poke bowl have a poke Not anymore

[01:59:50] You know what movie I did watch for the first time on the plane that I can't believe you knowing me and my personality I cannot believe I've never seen this movie before 2018. Yeah, don't fucking uh The one with the cutters and the bike race

[02:00:04] Cutters in the bike race the gang called the cutters In Bloomington, Indiana, and they have to go up against the frat guys in the bike race You guys know what I'm talking about cutters all their dads are stone cutters It's built for me

[02:00:23] Me that's you know Greg and you could have been in that Indiana zone Breaking away weird Dennis Quaid performance It is like a low-rent white trash dude. Yeah, that's a scrappy movie. It's movie best scrapper It's yeah, I watched that in the outsiders back to back on planes

[02:00:38] I wanted to just drive directly to my neighborhood in North Jersey when I got off the plane gonna fight. Yeah so So yeah, well the restaurant. Oh you want to do the restaurant? Okay. Yeah cuz that's the big

[02:00:49] That's the big scene. Well, that's the I want you make me want to be a better man, right? Right, we're he keeps she wants a compliment But the bigger move there is the fact that for the first time he realizes that maybe he should not say everything

[02:01:02] He wants to say it's not even once he just says every thought that goes through his head Right, but he says that he makes that line about her dress. Yes the house frock line or whatever it is

[02:01:12] Yeah, and she is tells him directly. She's like why like why do you do this? Right? And and you need to compliment you right now, right? And he makes the whole speech about the pills

[02:01:23] You make me want to be a better man, and then she like leaps on that right? She's into that it's a good line, right? I mean she just got a good James L Brooks line, right?

[02:01:32] And she goes like look I'll be honest when you came into the restaurant I thought you were kind of handsome sort of Jack Nicholson type Yeah, you know one of those things where it's like huh 20 minutes of thinking about this you actually are handsome

[02:01:42] You know even though you look like Satan Like he looks like Satan you know what I mean like you say Satan was a businessman He's like just sign on the dotted line If Satan was made of a worn-in leather and had downtown look had a doubt

[02:02:01] And we was like oh do you want to live deliciously like right like He's leathery in this movie like this a movie where like 30 years of Nicholson doing like a lot of face acting is showing

[02:02:12] Yeah, in terms of like the crevices. Yeah everywhere lines are there the lines are there now wait shortly after that Is the scene if I'm remembering right again? I watched it a few months ago. Yeah, there's the caneer calls his mom

[02:02:24] Yes, yeah, that's a heartbreaking. It is a tough scene Yeah, that is a heartbreaking scene and it's where yeah again like I said like he's not getting the catharsis there Right, that's what he was trying to do with this road trip

[02:02:35] And Nicholson says makes the gross reveal that he says the reason he brought Helen Hunt on the trip is because she He wanted her to have sex with caneer. No, but he he's not he doesn't really think okay

[02:02:46] So you think he doesn't really think that's just a weird thing that he goes through It's a very weird because he's very he cannot expose himself The point where he's realized he has actual feelings so he has to say something to kill any potential that they are expressed

[02:03:00] But then he gets really angry the next morning when he thinks they slept together Yeah, you're also cuz he's a baby cast off like a boss. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's like But I also just love that I frat good times noodle salad that's like my favorite

[02:03:14] Yes, that's my Nicholson Oscar mode where he's like he reveals like my dad used to hit me with a ruler or whatever And he's like it doesn't matter like he has no

[02:03:23] Understanding of his own self as a person right? He can say these things out loud without thinking about how they reflect on him Yeah, and then you know some of us have great stories pretty stories that take place at lakes with boats and friends and noodle salad

[02:03:36] Such a good speech Come on fucking speech. What is noodle salad? You know macaroni salad? But why wouldn't you say macaroni salad? I think his noodle salad sounds better. I got a little spin on it

[02:03:48] All right, I have one final except for the Roman we have to talk about the kids Because we're talking about quotes. Yeah, it's up with that hug part she's like crying and

[02:04:00] She's talking about how she hugs her son a lot and it's like the tone of it is really weird Do you guys remember this? Yeah? It's like kind of a subtle joke about how she needs to hug her son because she just doesn't get laid a lot

[02:04:16] Yeah, super weird. Yeah, and out of all the stuff like you know Revisiting this movie after not seeing it for a long time. That was the one that I was like, yeah Whoa, that's actually the most yeah chill

[02:04:28] I also just remembered the scene where Greg can hear talks about painting his mom in the nude great That's what yeah, that's what sparks the Nicholson speech because hunts like really empathetic right right

[02:04:38] She pulls over the car to listen to right Nicholson's like who gives a fuck who gives a fuck my dad used to throw me in the Garbage shoot, you know, I probably doesn't mean anything. I was the president when Mars attacked Through me off a cathedral that jerk

[02:04:55] No, I like this movie is loaded with like 15 monologues for each guy and It's I don't know it's just you said I can't remember what you said exactly But like you watch Spanglish after this and you're like wow

[02:05:09] Like this is the bad version of as good as it gets yeah, where he's like how about no plot lots of monologues Nothing makes sense right but it'll all come together in the editing room and it just didn't it's like from broadcast news on

[02:05:20] He takes the wrong lessons from each movie about what he used to do well right and it just gets like watered Down but but yes I mean Caneer and hunt form this relationship that for her like fulfills the role of what she felt like she was missing

[02:05:36] Romantically just having this kind of like adult Intimate connection with someone that doesn't have to be physical and he does Nickerson off Treats her like an actual work of art right? Yes Nickerson says did you sleep together?

[02:05:49] That demo in spain 2 right where he goes like did you have sex with her and then she walks out and he's like I'm sorry. I didn't know you were there right did you have sex with her?

[02:05:57] But she's like no he drew me and he held me and it was better like you don't understand One night with me nice to a person right and then she decided she doesn't want to be with him anymore

[02:06:07] She says like go away Melvin want you in my life. Yeah, I have a question I forget how the caneer thing wraps up with the parents. They give him a payoff. No they just leave

[02:06:16] Yeah, because he moves in with Melvin. Yeah remember Melvin puts the caneers whole house in the bedroom And he calls him which is like he calls them the morning after hunt and says like actually I'm good I was just calling to check up. I got my life back

[02:06:28] I don't need money and you hear his mom being like we're sorry. We didn't come when you got beaten up We were gone. Oh, but we did it. You know, there's like yeah

[02:06:36] It's rough. It's right, but no, but the thing is just they kiss and do you like it? That's like the last thing don't love it I agree with Chris that I would like it more if they did I like the walk through the neighborhood

[02:06:47] Yeah, and I like line about like we'll just be two people like you know who like bread And he's still skipping the sidewalk lines, right but she's like forcing him to at least go at her pace. Yes. Yes

[02:07:04] Yeah, it's that's gonna make my compromises in life. Yeah, I mean like I don't know if they're gonna stick together I don't think they're going to have a weird relationship with each other like be it romantic or not

[02:07:14] I don't know just you know, it's a gripe of mine. I bring it up a lot I'm not throwing the movie under the bus for this

[02:07:19] But I think there is a lack of movies in which a straight man and a straight woman have mutual respect for each other That isn't romantic and that's how it ends, you know and anytime I see that I'm like very refreshed by that

[02:07:34] And so I just this is one of those movies that feels so close to being able to do that Sure It feels like they could pull that off because it's not such a didactic romantic comedy

[02:07:43] That I'd rather if it was one of those movies where it's like, yeah, you know We had a moment where we like almost had a thing together and it's very clear. We wouldn't be good together So let's just you know

[02:07:53] I'll keep on paying your hospital. Yeah, so you were impressed with me being able to recall stuff before Yeah, this is the game where I try to recall from memory the box office the weekend the movie open Okay As good as it gets opened on December 26th 1997 Yeah

[02:08:09] So Jack under the tree that year sure but a jack under the tree Okay, it opened at number three. We've basically done this weekend Because this is the second weekend of a very popular movie to Tana correct. That's number one

[02:08:23] You say to Tana Tata the film to Tana about the ship to Tana So that's number one Do you remember the other movies because two of the other movies we talked about are in this top five

[02:08:34] Okay, so 1997 if you remember Titanic opened against like a big franchise movie But this week Titanic went up and that movie went down family franchise No action franchise an action franchise an actioner. It's an action. What number was it in the franchise?

[02:08:54] I don't know it's 16 or something. Yeah, and it was tomorrow never dies correct How do you feel about tomorrow never dies Chris? Zero opinion on it great. Yeah, I like the movie number three as good as it gets as good as it gets

[02:09:08] Okay, now which opens to 12 million dollars. Yeah perfectly fine. It's gonna make a hundred forty eight big big adjusted for inflation That's like 300 million dollars and it makes another like hundred fifty overseas. Yeah jack is back sure

[02:09:21] Number four is a movie you really struggled to identify the last time we played this game. It is a family movie From a director we may cover on this series

[02:09:32] Motion picture mouse hunt you see mouse hunt Nathan Lane Lee Evans and mouse hunt directed by Gore Verbinski. No Captain Gory Verbinski Oscar winner for Ringo, you know familiar with the works of verbinski

[02:09:48] He made the pirates. Yeah, he made the cure for wellness. That's okay. You got to go on the hunt Chris number five Gotta go on the hunt number five. I forgot this movie open to Christmas It's from a big otor director who's been in the news recently

[02:10:01] Oh, I know what it is because this was him being like ha ha look at me I'm releasing it on Christmas. I made a big deal out of the fact which is a little Christmas Louise

[02:10:09] It's his best film though. It's called Jackie Brown. That's right Quentin Tarantino's Jackie Brown Yeah, which is my favorite Quentin Tarantino great bombs really hard movie, you know 40 million in the wake of Tripled its budget Chris Tucker performance. Yeah. Yeah

[02:10:25] One of my favorite Robert DeNiro performance great in Europe for that one. He's so good in that movie so good Fonda were fond of her I'm fond of Bridget. Yeah Scream to the other number six an American werewolf in Paris speaking of horror sequels flubber. Oh

[02:10:46] Yeah, mr. Magoo remember that With Leslie Nielsen. Yeah, the live action mr. Magoo. Yeah, and the postman Opening this weekend. Kevin Costner bomb customers the post that's a bomb Overly so five million dollars for Christmas. Yeah Amistad's also in there. Yeah

[02:11:09] I guess to answer your question if Kit Fisto had lived to the events of the last Jedi I think the whole strategy would revolve more about like espionage subterfuge embedding Jedi warriors and situations where they could assassinate powerful figures of the first order instead of these

[02:11:25] ill-advised military battles that they didn't have the equipment or money to pull off And to answer your question The worst my favorite scene theaters that paid to see might be in orbit I've been going through my mind to I kind of like

[02:11:43] I will make it. I will make a Norbit based admission right now You walked out. No, it was one of the very few times in my life I have ever smoked pot and I lost my fucking mind watching. Oh, I found the movie

[02:11:57] Terrifying movies a little it may not a good physically uncomfortable That's probably the reason I do not do any drugs is because of watching your bit I'm thinking of a stunt cat woman is a movie. I paid to see theaters and I was stoned for that one

[02:12:09] That might have been the worst that's rough that one's rough. I saw dude wears my car twice I saw that movie. I saw one. Good money underrated. Yeah, I'm gonna say good Oh, I know another one in the running. Here's the quite before we get to Ben

[02:12:21] What would you guys say black knight? versus I saw black knight versus coyote ugly So both of those in the theater coyote ugly is not a good movie. I think black knight's worse though I mean from just thinking about it. I haven't seen black night. Just premise

[02:12:38] I saw coyote ugly is flawed because she lives in South Amboy, New Jersey And the whole movie is like oh, she's gonna move to the big city and the parents are freaking out

[02:12:48] If you live in South Amboy, New Jersey, you can literally see the New York City's pilot from your house You're saying it's not that big a deal. The land of fucking Oz Anyway, sorry to interrupt Ben. Do you know what's another movie?

[02:12:58] I fully despise that I definitely paid full ticket price to see opening day. What's that van Helsing doesn't get enough shit Oh, I've never seen van Helsing deserves more shit than it get with van Helsing has gotten off easy in our culture

[02:13:10] I've walked out on what's the beneath your toriel? Is it Wolfman? Yeah I never saw that even I was at the Union Square theater killing time Well, I had therapy on Fridays and then he used to perform every Friday night

[02:13:21] Yeah, and I would sometimes go see movies by myself to kill time is pretty great therapy a movie And then go do some improv. Yeah, it's a hat trick

[02:13:29] Yeah went and saw the Wolfman and it was so bad and then maybe 20 minutes in there's a line where a guy says Sometimes you don't hunt the monsters. Sometimes they hunt you and I popped out of my seat

[02:13:42] Popped out of my seat and walked out with such good timing that the crowd applauded my walkout I'm gonna throw him under the bus for home But I saw that movie with my brother and and the lady he had a crush on and I was like

[02:13:56] I'm clearly third wheel wingman because my brother's kind of awkward in these situations Yeah, and he forcibly placed me between the two of them Like she clearly was like excited like going on a date a little less excited when she saw the brother was coming along

[02:14:10] And then even less excited when I sat next to her Ben and my brother just sat in the other seat shaking his legs Who needs to go get a sandwich? Do you have a movie? Because I like bad movies, right? So I'm like kind of struggling

[02:14:24] But there's always that bad movie where you're like I can't wait to enjoy this and then you're like oh fuck This is just a bummer. It's not even fun. I mean think about it this way Ben

[02:14:32] Oh, I actually I know I do know what it's it's I went to the new school the village cinema that little guy Yeah, 12th sure I would go to kill time between classes. Yeah, and I saw a movie I

[02:14:47] Gandalfine's in it and it's a musical and it was like oh, oh this is the one that John Turtur directed It was it's called romance and cigarette. Yeah, John Turtur musical starring James Gandalfine. You didn't know I was just killing time like Gandalfine's in it

[02:15:00] Sopranos I like that show I'm gonna check this out and I hated it and I think I left yeah, that's one of those movies where it was like barely released and

[02:15:09] Tuturo always like blamed the industry and said it was like a conspiracy and everyone saw him was like this is a bad movie I should have made this I took time out during a Hawaiian vacation to go see little man

[02:15:22] With Greg Keneer. Oh no, no, no the Wayne's Brothers I never saw that one. I saw white chicks at the same theater I saw Catwoman which is the theater in the Adirondacks where tickets used to be two bucks and

[02:15:33] Had a great time with the white chicks. I took a little little man I knew what I was getting into and you know everything I wanted to be Yeah, yeah, you knew what they were selling and you bought it. I did

[02:15:44] I I took a lady on a date in high school to see Soul Plane Which was my second time seeing Soul Plane in the theaters. Yeah, and the audience was 95% Hasidic Jews Two 15 year olds on a date and one black guy who was super uncomfortable anytime anyone left

[02:16:02] Jesus, why were they all no idea but they loved it and the black guy was furious This is not for you. That's a good downtown story nor for these two kids who are too nervous to kiss

[02:16:14] All right, we're done. Okay, right? That's how it ends. Yeah, we're done That's not literally I'm announcing it to the audience. You we're still talking. We're finished We're gonna bid you goodbye Daniel Plane view throwing the bowling pin down supposed to get lunch with drew an hour ago

[02:16:29] I'm sorry. No, that's okay Uh scheduling around our podcast so fun. Thank you so much for being here Chris Thanks for having oh, I took the headphones off because you said we're done. No, it's not. Oh, I was just

[02:16:39] Get there. She'll be back on air 20th. Yes. Yeah, this will be coming out after that so you'll be in the middle But not one day night every Tuesday night Tuesday nights and that's exciting ever since you've been live. It's been so much fun

[02:16:51] I mean it was fun always but I think you know being live is great. Thanks. Yeah, it's much much preferred Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you You've both been two of the hugest supporters and sometimes participants in the show honor and a privilege

[02:17:03] Yep, um and beautiful anonymous. Yeah, what else? What else? I got a book coming out. Shit new book later in the year. I don't know why I'm announcing that here. That's not announced I don't know why I've chosen the blank check podcast to blow my wad on that

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[02:17:49] and as always Got to introduce the bendos. Yeah, we did we were so busy Poet laureate ah Chris we traded for moody a soken wet benny JD and motto turned on my phone and JD motto said are you seeing the tie breaker?

[02:18:07] Yeah, text came up or finance. I've loaded half the team cabs meet lover. They got rid of derrick rose isaiah thomas Uh, jay burr, hanny fry fuck man You know, they got rodney hood. They got george hill. He is a close personal friend of dan louis

[02:18:23] I mean they remade them. Kevin love graduate the certain tells over the course of different mini series Kylo ben we didn't even talk about chris steph. That was rooster ben kinovi I like moody a ben night trauma on point guard and re comming from project. Yeah

[02:18:35] Say anything dot dot that You're gonna have moody and be easily. I want be easily gone really because i'm like worried because one a couple games Well, that's the thing i'm like now or hoss steps is out

[02:18:45] Let's just tank and like be like no man. I'm going for 35 every game 19 the film Playing with robo hoss and now i'm sure they'll play more And last they haven't started in because they were trying to win studios

[02:19:00] I think this is still recording, but i don't know how we end it because he's gone. He's gone. He left He went and got a sand wind