Avatarland/The Second Blank Check Mailbag

[00:00:00] Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check AWA Podcast U Oh my god AWA Podcast U Zero listeners AWA Podcast U Yeah

[00:00:37] I forgot we were gonna talk about it Da-ba-ba David, we have to go back Dude, you just went We have to go back to Avatarland You're right Da-na Hello everybody, my name is Griffin Newman David Sims

[00:00:53] This is a podcast usually about filmography. Directors who have massive success early on are given a series of blank checks and make whatever crazy pass from projects they want sometimes those checks clear and sometimes AWA bounces them baby AWA has bounced you Yes AWA bounces you

[00:01:12] Today we're doing something kind of different By something kind of different we mean we're doing like Our stupidest episode ever you mean And we're combining like four different things into one episode This is just a grab bag episode This is the garbage plate This is our buffet episode

[00:01:25] Yeah, garbage plate This is our golden corral episode Sure Okay, this is gonna be a fun episode Fans are gonna love it We're gonna win another OBE This episode of Podmas here we come Yep, Podmas here we come Long promise, long hinted at Long demanded

[00:01:42] I took a trip to Avatarland A.K.A The world of Pandora Or Pandora-Colin the world of Avatar That's what it's called It's not called Avatarland It's not But I'm sort of on like a friend basis with it I call it Avatarland Right

[00:01:57] But it's called Pandora-Colin the world of Avatar at Animal Kingdom Walt Disney World Resort, Orlando, Florida Wait what? Animal Kingdom? It's part of the Animal Kingdom What's the Animal Kingdom? I don't know anything about Disney Have you ever been? Nope Have you ever been?

[00:02:13] I was too young, I don't remember it Okay I'll give you a quick rundown Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida It's comprised of four different theme parks You got Epcot, I know that Right And that's sort of the techie one The Unite the Continent one

[00:02:27] Hashtag Unite the Continents Unite the Seven No but that's sort of the The worldly travels Combined with the let's take a glimpse into our future Sure It was always the park that had the Least IP related attractions Right But now that's changing

[00:02:43] So they had like a Nordic ride That they've now transformed into a frozen ride Of course They're apparently going to be putting A lot more Marvel stuff in there I think it's sort of going to become Their more adult theme park Combined with their animated films

[00:02:55] That are set in foreign countries We'll probably have a Coco ride Within the next two years I would bet on it Okay Because the three Calaberos Caballeros Caballeros Okay, fifth time's the charm That ride is not doing incredibly well these days It's a little out of date

[00:03:09] Yeah, and Coco rules Have you seen Coco? I might see it right after this podcast If we get done in time I fucking love it I got the hottest takes on it I recorded an episode of Masterpiece Theatre last night Shout out Josh Beagle, Scott Renshaw Yeah

[00:03:22] Don't want to brag I've now joined the Five Timers Club Humble brag Five Timers Club Masterpiece Theatre But I got all my hot takes of Coco Out in that episode Great movie Great American film A little hungover guys That's Epcot Okay, Magic Kingdom That's the classic one Okay

[00:03:40] That's where the castle is That's got the castle It's got Adventureland It's got Frontierland It's got Tomorrowland It's got Fantasyland It's like Walt Disney His original idea of Disneyland And it's just the Florida version And Epcot was the only other one He had an active hand in

[00:03:55] I think it opened after he died But he was very instrumental Where's the Hall of Presidents in all this? That is in the Magic Kingdom Most of the Iconic rides are at the Magic Kingdom So that includes Obviously Space Mountain Splash Mountain

[00:04:06] All the sort of story dark rides Where you go through the plot of Animated Disney classic Pirates You got your fucking countryman's jamboree Haunted mansion Maybe the greatest ride of all time Is it? So I thought Oh Jesus But maybe a new ride Has taken that time

[00:04:22] Alright, so you've mentioned Epcot and the Magic Kingdom What else we got? There was what was originally Called MGM Hollywood Studios But then the license ended So now it's just called Disney Hollywood Studios Interesting That had the great movie ride That was sort of Star Tours is there

[00:04:36] And this is all owned by Disney? Correct But like they would have other shit That was non-Disney Within their worlds The idea was that that park Is less about Disney films And more about the magic of movies And they have like a replica Of Man's Chinese theater

[00:04:51] The great movie ride used to take you Through the history of the movie Is now being replaced by Mickey Mouse thing That's where they're going to build Star Wars land So the MGM park is mostly Going to become a Star Wars park Fine But then you also got

[00:05:03] Muppet Vision 3D One of the greatest films ever made You have Toy Story Midway Mania Which they're now expanding into Toy Story Land That is actually the official name The other ones I'm adding land on to But Toy Story Land is going to be

[00:05:12] Like four or five rides now Which I'm jazzed about I don't, I just I just don't understand any of this I don't either I'm listening to all of this And I'm like why would anyone I'm describing it all very well Describing it all very well

[00:05:24] Describing it all so well And I had a great time Like I remember when I was a kid I liked theme parks okay Because they were like these fun places When you were a kid Like growing up and Sully in the United States of America

[00:05:36] No actually I grew up in England What? Has a lot of theme parks You know England's really into theme parks I know that You know so Banksy's I don't even know what that means Dismalant Yeah right right Remember when Banksy? What if Banksy a theme park

[00:05:51] Let's get a Demi back on so we can talk about his Rue Banksy No they have like Thorpe Park And like Alton Towers And like Oland And Chessington World of Adventures They're just like Non-branded Theme parks And because they're all kind of popular

[00:06:05] They all like are always trying to out do themselves So they always have these Insane new rides But a lot of those non-branded theme parks Also have like one or two movie rides Like they'll make specific Oh for sure but it's like A deal they can't

[00:06:16] I always find it really interesting Like I'll go on a Wikipedia pages And it'd be like Oh this like theme park And Bombay that doesn't have Specific branding Also has a Ghostbusters ride Hey man You know like shit like that It's kind of nice

[00:06:27] It's sort of the old days Before everything was you know Silo And Umbrella And Conglomerated Anyway So we said three of the four We're not even fucking done Is the fourth Universal Studios? No Universal Studios is a fucking thing Get the fuck out of here

[00:06:38] But it's also in It's also in Orlando right? Correct Universal has two theme parks One is Universal Studios proper And the other one is Islands of Adventure Which is technically comprised of Five small things By the way I want to point something out

[00:06:47] Can I point something out here? Wait wait wait Because we forgot about Okay what was the fourth one? The fourth one is Animal Kingdom Uh huh And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom

[00:06:56] And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom And the fourth one is Animal Kingdom Uh huh And that was the one That's like the Bronx view That's the most recent one It's like trying to make the most

[00:07:04] Immersive sort of animal wildlife retreat Okay And they pride themselves on It's sort of the most humane of all Wildlife retreats in the United States If not the world Okay They bought a massive amount of space And they replicated the environment

[00:07:18] So it's like you go on a safari But it's not quite as problematic Right So that's like the cornerstone Of the park is like the long safari Uh huh But that's always been the lagging park Okay There's this great safari where you get

[00:07:29] To see animals but they don't have That many other exciting rides Uh huh You know Yeah They have a ride based on dinosaur Sure The Disney animated classic The DB Sweeney vehicle Dinosaur Sure But they don't have a lot So it was this big strategic move

[00:07:44] To go let's get Avatar Here's a brand that's all about nature Is about the ecosystem of wildlife So it's Avatar part of the Animal Kingdom Correct Oh And right now it's a small section I would not be surprised if it grows Even more especially if the sequels

[00:07:58] Are well received and becomes Maybe like 50% of the park So here's just a little backstory For everyone who's this is their first episode Listening which I'm sure is Most of the audience Yeah The good entry point No um what was I going to say

[00:08:11] So we reviewed James Cameron's films A while ago And we made a promise When we covered a mini series Of a director if they had a new film Come out we would go back And do a new episode As we'll do very shortly with the post Uh huh

[00:08:23] Stevie Spielberg's The Post We got an episode we're going to do on that Yep that will drop in a few weeks And this is kind of weird Because it's a theme park Right it's one of the things Where you might say actually We don't need to cover it

[00:08:33] Well I'm a good disagree there We also covered Turuk the first flight We did which we didn't need to cover that either But we covered it But it kind of set a precedent Hey that was good That was a good show

[00:08:44] It was a good show that we did No David David What The show that we did about the show was good Moe dancing Yeah Um rope dancing Dancy They had it I was so in it And David remember how funny that show was Uh yeah

[00:09:01] Turuk the first flight It was funny It had a wicked humor We're supposed to do like a lot of different things On this episode To think who we were originally going to have On this episode this bullshit We originally had a very big guest

[00:09:12] Lined up for this episode Which is crazy Which is like now that I think about it I'm like what the fuck were we thinking We were talking with a very big guest Who I think will be on the podcast at some point It'd be lovely to have him

[00:09:22] Um Oh Or them Yeah Except it's a him I mean in this case it's a him I gave it away I appreciate you I gave it away Um but uh It has gone out of town Out of country Oh it's fine It's whatever

[00:09:38] We originally thought we were going to be able to do a whole episode In Avatar land because we're going to have him on We send the list of all the movies we were covering in the future And he said I've been to Avatar land

[00:09:44] That's what I want to talk about And then when he bowed out We were like let's just fucking do an episode anyway And then just answer a bunch of user questions Yeah And here's another thing that we're going to do right now Okay Where you know

[00:09:55] The garbage plate This is the garbage plate episode Bigelos So what goes on a garbage plate We've got a A bigelow ranking Onion rings A trip to Avatar land Mac and cheese So the classic elements of A rib-eye steak Of a red hot garbage plate Our home fries

[00:10:11] Macaroni salad Uh baked beans And then like you know your meat So this is the big beans Because you guys have been You've baked up your list Didn't do it on Detroit Because we ran long Forgot to do it on Justice League We're doing it now

[00:10:26] The list is baked Are you ready? Here's my Catherine Bigelist Yes so just again We covered the films of Catherine Bigelow last And we forgot to rank them Because our final episode was Detroit And it was with Black Mankin German Hollywood And it was a whole Spectacular

[00:10:42] Yeah we were busy talking with them Anyway so now we're doing it Okay ready Are we gonna do ascending or descending? Uh I always just do descending I think it's sort of silly to start at 10 Okay so ready? Yeah I'm starting out

[00:10:56] You do yours and then I'll do mine Okay Rather than alternate Right Number one film on my Catherine Bigelist Blue Steel That's crazy You did love it I loved it and I'll say this It's the film to me that feels Most individualistic to her

[00:11:15] It is the film that feels most Unique to her that no other filmmaker Live could be That's great keep going Number two The Hurt Locker Number three Point Break Number four Zero Dark 30 Number five Strange Doss Strangely so we have the same top five

[00:11:33] In a totally different order Number six Near Dark Number seven The Loveless Number eight Detroit Number nine The Weight of Water Wow We almost had the same bottom five Number ten K-19 Wow that's brilliant K-19 wow I could not be bothered to care about that film

[00:11:55] I know you were very bored by it Yeah Alright so my ranking is Number one Strange Days There it is The days they're strange He's taken off his sweater people Keep talking Number two Point Break Oh god I just Number three The Hurt Locker Number four Blue Steel

[00:12:18] Which like I thought four was high This is the fucking dumbest shit in the world Just keep going Why are you interrupting yourself Number five Zero Dark 30 Number six Near Dark Number seven The Loveless Number eight Detroit Number nine K-19 Number ten The Weight of Water

[00:12:34] So we have basically the same back end But the top end we are all flipped around Anyway Oh boy Like I just I wish I wish I could tell you guys what's happening right now Tell them what's happening I mean we'll tweet it out

[00:12:49] We'll tweet out the pic Describe what's happening So Griffin took his sweater off Revealing a sort of sparkly Teal shirt underneath That sort of mimics oh my god The skin of a na'vi Then he attached a belt That I think has the tail I didn't really see it

[00:13:08] Yes He made some kind of a spear Which I don't really remember them having spears Sometimes Okay Then he put on what I can only describe as monkey ears But I guess they're supposed to be na'vi ears He just put on a necklace

[00:13:21] This is beginning to oh it glows Feels like cultural appropriation So I'm gonna say Griffin spent probably 200 or $300 They don't not mark these things up in the deeper He just attached his braid for sex and or networking purposes He's got the spear light up

[00:13:42] Oh he's got blue socks So those oh shit Are you wearing a whole stocking underneath Or just socks Just socks Okay So you're not gonna take your pants off They didn't have bathing suits Not this week Not this week They didn't have bottoms I desperately looked for bottoms

[00:13:57] I did buy they had flip flops That lit up like LA lights There's a lot of light up stuff in the theme park Right But I thought I could save $5 by buying the largest child size Instead of the smallest adult size Right

[00:14:11] And in the process gave my feet horrible blisters So I'm never wearing those ever again Uh I wasn't asking you to to be honest I'm telling you right now Now you ask how much money I spent on this And I respond to you Text right off baby

[00:14:24] I did this for work Oh my god that's what this is Hell yeah baby How Right off my whole trip I didn't have pity on your account No Honestly you're so noble Right off my whole trip baby Truly a noble thing to do Thank you Wow

[00:14:39] I didn't want to do it I had to Demands of a career Uh huh So No David please What Please what What do you want me to do No please Please David please So You look like a fucking idiot

[00:14:56] Wait you don't think this is a thing to commit to on an audio medium This is running me over like our bad stars Alright so first question how much did you spend Would you just wrap ballpark Yeah We'll bleep it out Couple hundred bucks I think

[00:15:13] I think I came in at about Uh huh for this or for the everything you bought there For everything I bought there which includes Some gifts that I might distribute Wow Alright well that's pretty good And I'll say your items are pricy And here's the other thing

[00:15:27] I'm a pricy guy I got both of you some high end items He splurged folks I got you some high end items that were both tax write off Right But here's the thing I gotta say okay One I went to Disney World with three other people Okay

[00:15:42] Scott Craterman Sure His fiance my friend Alisa Meligari Okay My best friend Sophie Fader Yup Invoked many times on this podcast The four of us went to Avatar World together To Disney World together okay Okay Scott is a Disney Parks fanatic Okay

[00:15:57] He's like comes from a Disney time share family Yeah Strategically I know what time to be at what ride Right This and that So he's got a discount because he's part of the Disney Vacation Club Good for him Okay

[00:16:08] So when I went to buy my merchandise he came up And used his card and said this is my cousin Can he get the discount So they were ringing it up said yes that's fine How much is the discount 20% Think yeah 15-20% something like that Okay

[00:16:21] They were ringing it up and then It went through I signed my receipt And then we realized Oh wait he forgot to apply the discount Because the number seemed a little high Oh So because of that he took like $50 all Alright

[00:16:35] So the first day I spent like $150 right How many days did you spend at this place At Disney World in totality Or at Avatar Land Oh I guess We went to Avatar Land three times It was a five-day trip Did you have like a hotel?

[00:16:48] Is it like a Disney hotel? We stayed at the All Star Music Resort Which is the budget friendly Okay Disney hotel But it's not like Florida Project But your friend's hotel It's close Okay It's close It's obviously more well maintained Sure But that's the aesthetic Okay

[00:17:06] It's that kind of hotel So Mooney was there like throwing ice cream at you or whatever Jancy, spin on cars All our good friends We'll talk about that movie later Yes we will Great movie Willem Dafoe More like Willem the friend of good cinema

[00:17:19] Let's say it every week But it was that kind of thing And it's got this really tacky music theme So they're like big sculptural Banjos and fucking saxophones and shit Stay there, okay? Sure So it was like maybe my entire purchase Was like $150 And then he was like

[00:17:37] I'm sorry he took like $50 off of it Okay So then the next day I was like You know what I should go back And spend another $50 Because I essentially got that $50 for free So then I got the missing pieces The most expensive of which was

[00:17:47] The flip flops which I'm never going to wear again Wow Great story Socks glow in the dark by the way I mean this is really like what you What you want in a podcast Is someone describing his shopping experience At Avatar land

[00:18:01] And you're describing what I look like Describe my body language right now Describe my position I mean you kind of look like What I imagine Matthew McConaughey Looks like when he's at home You know You look very relaxed You're wearing a lot of beads My feet are up

[00:18:16] Your feet are up on the desk On the table You've got this staff Sort of perched on your shoulder So you sort of like You look like a hobo You know you're holding it like a hobo style Like a bindle And let me ask you David

[00:18:28] Is my stuff a glow? It's a glow And you're also you're wearing Your ears Which are attached to this band Yeah So you have this kind of like Mid-2000s soccer player Are they stuck in that? Are they getting squashed by my hair?

[00:18:42] Well your ears are sort of Poking out above Your headphone Okay that's perfect I was going to say it's kind of Like a Coachella kind of look Love it Coachella is a good call With a grade two Yeah that's another good call Either Coachella or like a

[00:18:53] Portuguese sort of soccer star From like 2005 You know what I mean Like early Mid-2000s World Cup look Where you've got the braid And the sort of the headband First note of constructive criticism Yeah Hey Avatar land Make me some bottoms Make me some pants Cause this stuff

[00:19:11] You want a stocking Coupled with my hoodie No they could just be Give me some sweatpants Give me some bathing shorts You know what I'm saying They should have made it a onesie They didn't have any onesies Yeah They didn't They had like baby onesies

[00:19:22] We should say when we saw Taruk the first flight Those motherfuckers are in body stocking Correct Which is covering their whole body Their hands everything So they look like Navi And then they have like blue makeup On their face Now this is a really good entry point

[00:19:38] To start talking about My experience at Avatar land Okay Cause this is the first thing That I was surprised by But ultimately impressed by Okay It's the Ben where are you going to say Are you going to apply blue paint The whole time you're doing this Yes

[00:19:54] I mean it depends on how long it takes Me to cover Just don't get it on the equipment Yeah that's fine Right They did have a lot of face painting Stations at Avatar land And a lot of drums People were playing drums Okay Okay

[00:20:12] I'm reading an article right now What's up You're reading an article Tell me about Avatar land Okay so we wake up 7am First morning Because Scott knows Avatar lands the new attraction We got to get there early right Okay so it's working It's working

[00:20:29] Like Avatar land is a hit It's a big hit Okay But it's also like Time will really tell Uh huh Because right now Disney parks have like such a fandom Around them that any new attraction Is going to attract a lot of people Right so right

[00:20:44] Well it's stick Because like Harry Potter land is still enormous Of course People are universal It's been huge You know what else is still popular What? Harry Potter Correct Now you know what else doesn't seem that popular right now The tar Avatar The tar The Nuvvy For example

[00:21:00] Yeah When we saw Tarrouk the first flight You know how many seats were filled At the Barclay center Uh maybe 15% That seems a little I mean I was going to say 25 Yeah Maybe 30 And for those who have not heard our Tarrouk episode We also bought nose bleeds

[00:21:15] And they upgraded us to fourth row Because the stadium was so empty That is true Alright we end up getting tickets that were like Four times the value Yes and we ended up getting aggressively shushed By someone who filmed the entire thing On their phone Na na na

[00:21:26] Da na na na Da So I think Disney For so long had such a lead over Universal And Universal has been playing Some serious catch up with Harry Potter And also I don't know if you know this Recently bought the rights To do a Nintendo land

[00:21:45] I heard about that Which is going to be humongous Sure They've got these two big non-Disney properties That they've roped in So Disney's now getting a little Itzy Right and so they know they got Star Wars They know they got Marvel

[00:21:56] They're injecting both of those in the park In a bigger way But Avatar was their first big Push for a new property Right And it is this weird thing where you go Well you know I know It's such a meme now The like

[00:22:08] It's biggest move of all time No one even remembers anything about it Right And you're making the jokes about it If you didn't remember it Then why would you keep on talking About no one remembers anything about it Sure And the jokes about the jokes

[00:22:17] And the jokes and the jokes It's such a great time we all have online It's a great time The internet's great burn it down But You do go there And you go like Is this really going to feel relevant But the thing I found walking in Immediately was

[00:22:29] Oh wow Avatar works better as a theme park Than as a movie Uh-huh And I like Avatar as a movie As you know I think sometimes People think that we are Two biggest Avatar fans in the world Because we're the only people Not shitting on Avatar

[00:22:43] And film Twitter right now Right We both just think it's really fucking solid And have some exemplary direction Right Great action Right but for people who love like mythologies And world building and universes It's not like I could give one shit About the Navi Whatever Who cares

[00:22:58] And I even talked about it in our Avatar episode For how much that movie works for me I don't find the design of Pandora That inspiring It's fine It's fine But those people who are like Oh man I gotta go 20 times to the theater

[00:23:08] Because I want to live in Pandora Right I never got that And if any complaint I have about Avatar stands head and shoulders Above the rest I wish he even could have gone A little further out there Sure I wish the Navi looked even less humanoid Okay

[00:23:22] Avatar land I step into this park And I go Jesus Christ This is perfect Uh-huh Because the level of stylization For the movie Is kind of stunning When you're walking around it In real life Okay And they've replicated it Really really well

[00:23:37] So you walk into the animal kingdom And everyone It's very hard to take you seriously When you have this braid Uh-huh You walk in For the listener at home What am I doing? You're stroking your braid Da-na-na Keep going Animal kingdom You're walking through

[00:23:54] And then there's a very cell transition Into when you're entering the Avatar area Suddenly the plants are looking A little stranger Uh-oh A little purple Uh-oh And often the distance The floating mountains of Pandora Uh-oh Which are really fucking well executed Uh-huh They sort of design them

[00:24:12] So that the vines Are hiding the support beams Holding them up Okay So even if you're close You can see that they're tethered To the ground But if you're walking under them You really kind of buy The scale of it Now here's the thing

[00:24:24] I was most impressed by Unlike Taruk the first flight You have no cast members Playing Navi Okay I think for a lot of people Was that you'd walk in No, I get you And there'd be some jambokes on stilts Right You're saying it's all animatronic

[00:24:42] And the employees are Dressed up as essentially RDA employees They're like, you know The cast members are functioning Like Sigourney Weavers Being like we're humans Who have come here to bridge the gap With Navi I think technically the idea is That the park takes place

[00:24:57] Thousands of years after the movies So like the human Navi wars Have ended and we're all good now Jesus fucking Christ Alright so Taruk Yes It's a pre-sending one didn't remember It takes place about a thousand years Before the movie No, no, no First flight

[00:25:12] It's about the first flight You know, TBH It's a first flight Yes And this is a thousand years after Something like that Because James Cameron Is he's too busy He's like Don't approach on my territory With what I want to cover in the movies Go far enough away

[00:25:29] And just now It's peaceful, coexistence It's great So all the cast members are expats Right Who now live on Pandora Right The Navi we see are animatronics Within the rides I think the biggest Second biggest note behind Give me some bottoms at the gift shop Yeah

[00:25:47] I would love a planted animatronic Or two when you're walking Around the park of a Navi It kind of gives us some magic That you only see the Navi When you're on the rides But the animatronics are so impressive And I'm a huge robot fan

[00:26:00] And that's the thing I like most about Disney World Is fucking Walt Disney was good at Robots This is just so dumb And I love all the robots in this park Ben and I are just looking at each other But like they have like at night

[00:26:14] They do like a drum show Where they explain to you The musical traditions of the Navi But that feels like a little like Ehh Because it's like Some dumb fucking humans Reappropriating the Navi culture And going like The Navi land Navi land Pandora You know

[00:26:32] And they're like playing these big ceremonial drums And wearing like kind of what I'm wearing right now That sounds incredibly embarrassing Yeah it is I don't know how else to put it But there are no kind of freestanding Navis animatronics Or even creature animatronics

[00:26:49] I'd love a dire wolf You know an e-tron Yeah, dactyls Are they the flying guys? Is there a flying thing? No Is there a six-legged horse? I think that's the dire wolf Whatever you said dire wolf Oh I think I'm combining two things

[00:27:04] No, not in the walk around area The rock around area is more focused on Flora Than fauna That's cool And there's a beautiful ambience There's sort of a nature track You hear the sounds of the creatures around you Now when I was walking through

[00:27:21] There was a cast member Dressed up as like an RDA employee or whatever Talking to another cast member And he was saying that He wasn't performing for anyone else He was talking just to another person And he went

[00:27:33] So he's just standing there in the middle of the area And then this dire horse comes up right behind him Two inches behind him And I went like wait Is this guy eagerly explaining The plot of Avatar to another employee? Or is he so in character

[00:27:49] That not even communicating with visitors He wants people to believe that He's telling stories of what he's seen in Pandora And that level of detail Remember how when we went to Taruk There was that guy who farted at the condiment table? Is there anything like that going on?

[00:28:06] Yes, many fat people were farting It's Relay to Florida I mean come on Was there any sauce boys? There were sauce boys There were sauce boys Okay, so we're walking around this area We go immediately to the first ride Which is now just popular ride Disney World

[00:28:21] Avatar Flight of Passage Correct Which is like a 3D VR ride So it's not like a roller coaster No It's like you get in a simulation booth Right They have two rides right now And I'd say Is it like one of those things where it goes like

[00:28:36] I'm going to tell you what it is It's going to blow your mind Remember those things though? I love them when I was a kid This is kind of like that Okay The third ride I think they could use Is like a roller coaster Right

[00:28:49] I think they could use a good roller coaster Great motion simulator They have a dark story ride They need like a throw ride They need when you're on the birds Well that's what this is Oh okay, alright, okay fine But maybe I don't know I mean look

[00:29:03] Give me two e-cron rides It's not like we shouldn't double down On banshees at a fucking Avatar theme park You know? I just don't care So the first ride we get there And the line was really long But we got there first thing in the morning

[00:29:17] So I think we only waited like an hour and a half And we were asking the employees Like what's the worst wait time you've had And they were like 600 minutes 600 minutes? Yes Wait I have to do the math That's 10 hours basically Correct Wait like someone waited 10 hours?

[00:29:33] Many people I mean if that many people weren't willing to wait The wait would not be that long But that So like when they say 600 minutes They literally mean They just mean that at the peak They were telling people You would have to wait 600 minutes

[00:29:47] There's like an LED screen There can't be someone who would actually wait 10 hours Many did Otherwise the wait would not be there Well but surely some Like she was saying like the opening weeks Sure Fanatics were waiting like 10 hours That's like People sleep outside of movie theaters

[00:30:03] I mean it's the same shit On an average day It can still hit 4 hours For one people don't really do that anymore But for two When you sleep I do Well you've got problems Yeah that's also just by choice Ben You're not waiting to see a movie

[00:30:17] When people sleep outside of movie theater They spent money On the ticket It's just the ticket But here it's like Well it used to be you were spending You were waiting so you could spend the money Fucking well actually me So but here it's like

[00:30:31] You paid to get into avatar lane right So it's like you're kind of It's a lot of time wasted on the one ride I agree And there's a system called the Fastpass System Where you can sign up online To get a time to come back

[00:30:42] But the avatar Fastpass From the moment they went on sale The park opened in June maybe They were pretty much filled up For the rest of the year It's like a whole world I don't understand at all A world of Pandora Like I would go to Disney World

[00:30:55] If it was in Brooklyn And I had to wait zero minutes for every ride You know what I mean? God can you imagine If there was a Disney World in Brooklyn Where like hips are world Yeah The fourth theme park Would be called Coffee Land

[00:31:08] What about artisanal roller coasters Ben's got my staff and he's acting Like he's angry Like he's a warrior He's poking at the sky Hold it still Ben I agree It's blurring It's too much of an action shot Ben can't stop fighting

[00:31:22] This is the best episode we've ever done This is a real throwback To those fucking Star Wars episodes Where you do work Like God knows what we were talking about Yeah Or rather A-Wa knew What we were talking about So we ended up having to wait

[00:31:37] Maybe a little over an hour change We got there pretty early Right And marched right through But they were saying sometimes So long that The weight to get on the avatar ride Extends past the front gates To Animal Kingdom You can't even get into Animal Kingdom

[00:31:52] Because the line's so long We waited a reasonable amount And the pre-ride area is great Because it's like the fucking avatar labs Right It's like you feel like You could turn around and see D-Lap Rau At any moment Is that how he says that? I don't know

[00:32:04] I took a swing I think it's Dili Brow I think you're probably right But they have the giant tank With like the Jake Sully avatar You know when he sees his avatar For the first time And it's like Kometos I've seen the film And they have a beautiful

[00:32:15] And it's like fleshy enough That it like kind of like It spasms There's unobtainium You see unobtainium What's Dili Brow up to? I don't know He came out of the gate so strong But like that was bad And then they locked back They locked her Yeah

[00:32:32] You worked with three Huge American directors on this first thing I'm always in them What is it? Outta here So then we get on the ride Okay Now here's the cornerstone Disney now owns Three of the four biggest screens in the world Okay

[00:32:48] The fourth one is some fucking IMAX screen Uh-huh Or some museum screen And the other three are all on this ride So this ride is based around The fucking biggest screen You can ever imagine, okay? I'm listening I'm listening to Big Big screen Big screen, okay?

[00:33:05] Oh, I see When you go inside They give you the pre-training thing The video where there's some avatar Like fucking Telling you Or an RDA employee going Look, we have to match you with this There's a nice kind of thing Where they scan you

[00:33:18] And they show you what your avatar Is gonna look like And they do it in real time So you're watching it on a video And that's like fun And then you go inside the proper room And they give you 3D glasses Okay And then your ride

[00:33:29] It is like a motion simulator thing Yeah But unlike Star Tours Where it's like you're in one box Right Or some of these other things Where it's like you're in one suit Don't put me in a box You gotta think outside the box You're in one chair

[00:33:41] And that chair moves around Your ride vehicle Is supposed to represent The e-cron Or the banshee as humans call it Okay Right And so you board your ride vehicle Like it's a motorcycle Wow So you sit forward like this With your legs on the side Strapped in

[00:34:00] And there's like a back support That comes in So you're like fully in position Kind of cool Very cool Like you're riding a creature And then the screen comes up And they sort of like stack Eiles on So if you look to the side

[00:34:13] You can see like 40 people over here 40 people up there 40 people down here Right But your thing moves individually And your ride vehicle Which is not on like a track It's just sort of shifting around Right To simulate the feeling Of riding a living creature Breathes Okay

[00:34:33] So like in between your legs The thing's expanding I'm going to give you like 10 more minutes On avatar land So use them wisely I need like 40 No, no, no And contracting So you feel like you're riding A living breathing creature Yeah Which Sophie said felt very sexual

[00:34:46] I love it I love it Sexy ride And the ride is just You're learning how to fly a banshee But it is so exquisitely done And the big screens I assume Are like You're flying through the sky Yeah And best execution of 3D I've ever seen period

[00:35:01] Oh you have the 3D glasses on You have the 3D glasses But also the only successful Application of smell-a-vision I have ever witnessed Oh what are you smelling Like nature smells But it's so fucking well done You feel like you're in a forest Which really like sells

[00:35:14] The sensory experience Of like you're going through a tree And they're like pines But it doesn't smell artificial But when you go through a tree Do they like hit you in the face? There's some spritzing water There's some like spritzing of air There's stuff like that

[00:35:26] And there's some good drops There are a good number Na na na na But when you drop It doesn't drop No but It is so sensory And it tilts quick enough There's enough going on That it tricks your mind into I'd probably enjoy that It sounds fun

[00:35:40] From a technical standpoint It's the most oppressive piece Of ride making I've ever seen Cool So we went on that And we liked it so much I think on our last day We got there super early Before we were opening We were able to get on it

[00:35:51] Within 15 minutes Which was a really big accomplishment Because we were at Like the front of the line I'd say you're I mean one of America's Greatest Heroes I think so Big shout out to Scott Craterman For coordinating that properly And then the second ride

[00:36:03] I want to point out You came back from this whole Excursion completely wrecked Yes Like we were supposed to record This episode I believe The day after you got back And you were just like It's not going to happen again I was sick for a week

[00:36:14] I'll say this whole trip was very I came out of feeling very fatalistic I felt my mortality More than I have in a long time You're growing up Which I hate It's dumb and I Fucking don't like it You know But like I hadn't been to Disney

[00:36:31] Since I was 20 And now I'm a haggard man of 28 Alright so I'm going to wrap you up soon The second ride The Navi River Journey Right it's like a dark story ride You're sort of in a boat It's wet You're in the water

[00:36:45] Yeah I'm very fond of those I love those Because I'm not really A thrill seeker Me neither Roller coasters I mean they're okay But like they just I don't have Some people are very drawn To roller coasters I'm not at all But I like the dark story

[00:36:58] You know why You're immersed into this I love narrative But people make fun of them These are narrative rides Yeah those people can go fuck themselves I mean I know that like Pirates of the Caribbean Is a little cheesy at this point Or whatever Well no

[00:37:09] The problem with Pirates of the Caribbean Now is you know it's all about Fucking Jack Sparrow now Oh right They're literally like Putting him into it Different Jack Sparrow robots now And the whole ride is Everyone going like Where's Jack Sparrow And you're trying to play

[00:37:22] Like where's Waldo I feel like all these studios Disney and Warner Brothers They're so fucked Like Dug in with Johnny Depp They're into Depp They are into Depp They like literally Like there was this big interview today Where David Yates was like I saw that

[00:37:39] Well I just think The whole thing's overblown It was just one accusation It's like Yeah it was one accusation from his wife Like it's not like Some random like You know anonymous person Like wait But beyond that Like the thing That they need to be saying

[00:37:52] Is like look Uh yeah Maybe we regret Paying Johnny Depp Whatever it is Signing him to whatever contract We signed him to And that one's especially frustrating Just because they already Had fucking Colin Farrell I know Well we've ranted about that before But I'm just like

[00:38:08] And the same with fucking Disney where they like Probably like five years ago They were like Just make as many Depp bots as you can Yeah it's honestly Build them out And I'll say this The robots are really good They're really good Depp bots

[00:38:19] But that makes it more unsettling Yeah So this dark ride Which also has long wait times I think sort of as the runoff And I would say Is not worth waiting too long for We had a blankie on the red Who was saying The wait time was disproportionate

[00:38:32] To his enjoyment Yeah It's a pretty short ride But it's sort of Pandora at night Sure And this is the ride where we have All the animatronics of the creatures But also some really good 3D projection So you have things running around You have the sort of

[00:38:45] Sprites in the air And there are a couple Navi that are fucking Unbelievable The fluidity of their motion You know the old Like all the presidents Thing is the robots just kind of flap Their mouths There's no real lip sync This we have like a Navi

[00:39:00] Who's like reciting a prayer And it's like perfect fucking Lip movements And it also makes you realize How big these fucking things are Because sometimes when you're watching Avatar the movie You lose sense of scale If you spend too much time Just around the Navi They're really tall

[00:39:13] When you see Navi built As robots You're like this is Pretty fucking astonishing Cool So the last thing I have to say About the Avatar theme park Is we went back One time at night Because at night We just walk around Yeah It's all lit up

[00:39:26] In a really kind of beautiful way They do a very classy Sort of bioluminescence And change the whole sort of vibe Of the place And that would be a great thing I would say Just kind of in the Orlando area I want to grab a quick green beer

[00:39:39] Maybe stop by Avatar land At night Take in the night site I have some photos and videos That I'll post To our Twitter But the thing that was nice I tried to take a video Of the story ride And everyone Scott was like

[00:39:54] Get ready to be a little disappointed This ride's too short Our ride broke down So we were stuck in one spot For like three minutes Which actually was great Because we got to spend more time In kind of the ambiance It was in like a pretty spot Yeah

[00:40:06] You know So that was good Now I'm going to play it So we You know We'll get off the Avatar section Even though Listeners are Probably not anywhere near They're filled David's demanding it I have some audio I've recorded with my friends With Scott, Elise and Sophie

[00:40:24] And also our good friend Becca Siegel Who works at Universal Now has also worked at Disney So it has some inspired perspective On theme park culture But it was a nice trip overall Even though it did make me feel Like I was 75 years old

[00:40:36] And I can't tolerate fun anymore I also just It was kind of nice I'll say this Not to like fucking But there was this moment Where I was like On Space Mountain or something And I was like This is one of the last Completely apolitical art forms

[00:40:51] Like there's no way With theme parks I was like We're just on a ride Everyone's moving really fast Everyone's screaming really loud Together and we're all just having fun You know I get that There's a kind of unifying thing About being on this car With all these strangers

[00:41:05] And everyone just having these Like totally involuntary reactions Of joy and fear and tension And all of that Controversed jamboree's a little problematic I mean that gets into like tricky territory But I you know Most of the attractions are nice Kind of bipartisan Just human experiences

[00:41:22] Even if I feel like I'm 75 And I can't do it anymore So I'm gonna play this audio Okay But before I do I come bearing this From the land of Pandora Okay here we go The natives and their traditions They passed on to me Two things I said

[00:41:37] I have two friends And they said You are one of the two friends Right? And I said yes And one of the two friends That I'm right now Ben is one of those two friends The other friend is a different friend He's not one of the two friends

[00:41:48] But he's a great friend And don't take that as any sort of backhand That's slam against him Ben Yeah, what's up? There is a tradition among the navi To drink the juice of the bean Every morning Oh sure And then yell out the ceremonial chant Pow I

[00:42:03] Sheet my ponds Okay And so I got for you In order to drink the ceremonial Juice of the bean Straight from the land of Pandora Far too intricately wrapped There's another fucking layer It is a mug representing Oh cool The floating mountains The floating mountains of Pandora

[00:42:26] It's a floating mountains mug Oh my god Wow This thing is, it's actually substantial It's a good mug It's also sort of like asymmetrical You know what I mean It's a great mug Weird sort of knobbly mug A nice ceramic mug Now David Oh my gosh

[00:42:43] I know you've been reckoning with your own mortality recently Not to put it on blast Yeah You crossed into 30 recently Not that recently Join the New York Film Critic Circle True You know, you're questioning the next stage of your life Right And you know

[00:42:59] You have a house where you live Uh-huh But a house is not a home without a family Okay And I'm not trying to put any pressure on you But it's maybe time to take on that added responsibility So David Straight from Pandora Oh my god

[00:43:13] An infant on the land Give me this thing Wrapped in a traditional blanket Describe to the listener what you're holding Careful, careful, careful Now Actually I have a question Do we see Avatar babies in the movie? No We don't at all Maybe in the like

[00:43:29] A little neck support there please Okay Thank you So this is a You know, a baby navi Yeah It's got a little velcro Blanket Wrapped in a blankie Uh, wrapped in a blankie Good point Um It's got a big old smile Yeah, he's happy to see you David

[00:43:54] You're his new daddy Got a mohawk Basically like kind of little Straight line tough He's a punker Um Kind of basically looks like a baby nightcrawler A bamf Yes, yeah He looks a little bit like a bamf Yeah Little tail Yeah Oh it's a pretty big tail actually

[00:44:11] Oh it's actually wearing like a loincloth Yeah well you're not going to see his baby dick Get out of here fucking pervert I mean God Alright It's um Beautiful Where are you going to put that in your apartment David? Well in a crib Just a bike

[00:44:28] I just saw how much this cost And uh I believe the word sticker shock And then Taxiductible baby The weirdest part is It's a terrible donation There's a tag right With like a picture of like What a baby navy like really looks like I guess Cause he's terrifying

[00:44:49] Does not look like this A baby navy in real life apparently looks like Tom Saizwong Like no shit And like also this picture of the baby navy has braids And this does not have braids No cause he's a punker Yeah Very cool

[00:45:05] A lot of cool items at the gift shop they also had You could buy your own e-crown that you put on your shoulder You could squeeze it and the wings would flap They also have a booth where you can make your own navy action figure

[00:45:14] That's supposed to look like you but I don't think the technology is very good So I didn't get it cause it was very expensive And it didn't look like the people who come in Yes so those are gifts So uh yes those are gifts

[00:45:23] And now we're going to go to audio straight from the source The land Of Pandora Okay hi this is Griffin Claude Beresford Dauphinhunter Newman I'm here live at Pandora The world of Avatar aka Avatar Land AKA my home My new home I'm here with good friends

[00:45:42] Not two friends But in fact four friends Sophie Fader Becca Siegel Lisa Mulligari Scotty Craiterman I mean god what an incredible time it's been And only getting more and more incredible by the second I am currently wearing a full navy outfit A bit of cultural appropriation

[00:46:03] But the locals have accepted me as one of their own Sophie I'll offer reference on the podcast First time, long time What do you think about the land of Pandora? I think it's soothing I think it's delightful I think it has sounds, visuals

[00:46:21] It smells vaguely like burnt marshmallows And it's basically paradise in space On a scale from one to bioluminescent How bioluminescent would you describe Pandora at night Which is where we currently are at the time now I would say we're about 60 miles under the ocean

[00:46:39] Looking at a bioluminescent octopus Yeah it's bioluminescent octopus out of ten Becca Siegel You have been a cast member at both Universal Studios And Disney You're an insider expert on theme parks How would you rank this experientially In terms of the craft, in terms of the business operations

[00:47:01] Well because of my current standing I can't speak too completely highly But I think it's really well done I think it's beautiful I was concerned about the lack of any kind of Reference point for a guest Because we don't have characters that we're seeing

[00:47:17] Walking around that we relate to or engage with But I think the look of it is just so beautiful And I too wanted to buy things Okay so oh wait I forgot that you can't talk about it Because of conflicts of interest with your career

[00:47:31] Oh here's a random woman walking by Her name is Jane Person Jane Person what are your thoughts? Oh it's me Jane Person Oh this place is so beautiful The colors, the lights, the sounds I wanted to buy a maker on bead necklace

[00:47:49] Because there's a couple different beads you can use I liked the way the footprints on the ground Are so large I like that there was a special drink with little bubbles in it Okay great transition Thank you Jane Person, thank you Pekka Siegel

[00:48:05] Lisa Meligare, the breakout star of this entire trip Has unquestionably been the Avatar drink Can you give us a description of this drink A.K. the best thing I've ever tasted in my entire life? Sure this drink is really delightfully flavorful It is really sweet

[00:48:24] Has hints of passion fruit And has these delightful little yellow boba balls That when you, when they explode in your mouth They're really tart and delicious Amazing, Scott Krederman You are a Disney Parks fanatic How many times have you been to Disney World now? Probably over 40 That's insane

[00:48:47] I was a little apprehensive about this place Because Disney really hasn't come up with something new That I thought has been up to real Disney standard in a long time The only ride that they've come out with That has been like a headliner in a long time

[00:49:01] Is probably Everest and I didn't think that was so great And how many navies were there on the ride efforts? Zero, zero navies Yeah bad ride One broken yeti for 15 years, 10 years, whatever it is But Harry Potter at Universal has really pushed Disney to up its game

[00:49:21] And I really feel like despite my apprehension They knocked it out of the park It is incredibly themed They were able to do an amazing job Taking a property that nobody really cares about And... Did I present that? Yeah, nobody really cares about

[00:49:40] Make it something that you want to be at and live in The rides are... The flights of passage ride is in particular spectacular It's like Soren, but Soren, like I always hoped it could be at some point Taking the technology to the next level

[00:49:57] And making an experience out of something Instead of just flying over a landscape Yeah, really impressed with the ride Impressed with the land, impressed with the land at night It's like this is my second time here now from two days ago

[00:50:11] And I still don't really feel like I've gotten a hang of or a feel for what it is Because there's so much to look at and there's just so much detail Well you heard it here first Avatar Land, aka the world pandora

[00:50:23] At Animal Kingdom at Walt Disney World Resort is a hit Okay, so that was the audio from my voyage to Avatar Land Thanks again to my friends for agreeing to be on my... They didn't really agree Great I sort of accosted them into it

[00:50:37] Can't wait for them to sue us Now David, I should acknowledge just for the listener home Because they don't know this Now that we're transitioning out of the Avatar Land section Of our episode into the mailbag section I have removed all my ceremonial Avatar Land garb

[00:50:49] Except for your shirt, yeah Well no, for the listener home taking this off now Okay, there it goes And now I'm fully naked So David, I can't wear this Avatar garb anymore Because we're not talking about it No Now let me rustle in here for a second

[00:51:04] Hold on one second Oh what's in here? Oh my god, it's a mailbag Mailbag We're gonna do some listener mail And I want to start off with a request that we got Because we had alluded to in a recent episode Our pitch from Men in Black 2

[00:51:27] That we had come up with Yeah, we cooked this up at a trivia night Solidified our friendship One time, it did, it was an early yeah Hashtag the two friends to competitive advantage Okay, Ben staring into his mug It's a good quality mug It just looks cool

[00:51:39] It's like drinking out of rocks Yeah, floating rocks And then we referenced it again recently And it came out, I thought we had talked about it on the podcast But we've never given our pitch before So I promised we were gonna do it in the Justice League episode

[00:51:51] On the Reddit and I forgot to do it So I promised in the Reddit that we were gonna do it on this episode So let's give now our Men in Black 2 pitch Okay, do you remember it? I remember it vividly Great Because I've repitched it

[00:52:02] And I told you this, I repitched it to Barry Josephson, producer of the Men in Black trilogy And he was like, that's what we should have done That's what we should have done Okay? Yeah David and I were sitting at the bar of ideology

[00:52:12] Men in Black 2 was on TV We were talking about a bummer that movie was And we got into the central kind of Gordian knot Of making a Men in Black sequel Of course, because your key problem of course is Men in Black ends with Tommy Lee Jones

[00:52:25] Making this very emotional decision to leave The Men in Black and return to his teenage love And then Will Smith, agent J And a racist memory Right, sees on the National Enquirer And he's the one who knows the one legitimate newspaper Man awakes from multi-decade coma

[00:52:39] He goes back to his wife Seems happy And you want him to be happy Also, he's with Linda Fiorentino playing H&L We'll submit this with So that's the sequel that's set up But the problem is You can't make a Men in Black 2 without Tommy Lee Jones

[00:52:54] But you don't want to disrupt the happiness That Tommy Lee Jones has earned I would say deserves by the end of that first one Exactly So what Men in Black 2 decided to do was There's some problem Some old alien comes

[00:53:04] The only time that Tommy Lee Jones can deal with Will Smith, agent J Goes to get him back And uses this memory Put her back in her To put his memories back He has to essentially make him miserable again But not only that

[00:53:16] And it's only dealt with offhand His wife, like their marriage fell apart Off-screen Right When he finds Kay He's working at a post office He's grumpy as fuck And he's just like I'm divorced, my wife let me And just like this is a bummer It is a bummer

[00:53:33] And it's more like You know, I'm fine with the idea that His life, you know Even though he'd forgotten about it In the Men in Black Sort of was like a splinter in his mind But like that's got to be dealt with Seriously not as just an obvious

[00:53:47] Like well we needed him back so And it was a big thing that Neither of them want to work with Linda Floriantino again He's a Valentino Sorry I don't think anyone I mean look That's all rumor or whatever But certainly she is not in Men in Black 2 or 3

[00:54:01] The rumor I've heard and I Or really any movies Right, the rumor I've heard Is not from the close source To Men in Black who I've already referenced This was just a thing I remember Hearing on the interwebs Because I read an early draft

[00:54:11] Of Men in Black 2 where she had one scene And Will Smith said Are you sure you don't want to Come back out in the field And she said no I prefer being here In the autopsy In the war Right And they apparently said

[00:54:21] We won't do it if she has even one scene They did not like working with her Okay She's fantastic in Men in Black Unbelievable Absolutely wonderful performance Yeah it's an incredible performance But we were like Is there a way to make a movie

[00:54:35] That's still a K&J team up That isn't such a bummer That doesn't have to go to such sweaty lengths To get him back on the force Right And the answer we came up with was Top of the movie Pretty similar opening to what we have

[00:54:47] Will Smith's got a new partner It's just not the same It's not the same magic His new partner is Warburton In the movie In the movie I would maybe go with someone Who's more dull than dull If that makes sense Sure fine

[00:54:59] But you know Warburton's kind of cute In Men in Black too He's cute I think he's not bad in it Okay so right It's just not the same Right And he misses K He's got the picture on his desk He misses K

[00:55:09] And he hasn't been able to get back In touch with them Yeah Weird alien crash landing Much like in Men in Black 1 When the Edgar bug crashes onto Edgar's farm And Siobhan Fallon As Vincent Dofferell's wife Is sort of the first hand witness Who they have to interview

[00:55:25] They go you have to go out On the countryside You have to go interview this guy Who saw the alien first hand Who's the guy Whose property did it land on Well it's a kind, retired man With his wife He's in love with

[00:55:37] Ding ding ding ding ding ding Tommy Lee Jones Boom But he's fully neuralized Uh oh Doesn't remember anything They don't know each other Doesn't believe aliens exist So here's what you still have Other people reported on it Agent J is like What about this alien thing

[00:55:51] He was like Probably a light show Fireworks I don't think it was really an alien Instead of the dynamic In Men in Black 1 Where Tommy Lee Jones is the mentor Seen it all He's taking Will Smith through things Will Smith's kind of the funny guy

[00:56:07] Now you've flipped it So that they both get to do something new And here's the thing Tommy Lee Jones still gets to be Comudgently Right But in a new way Because Men in Black 2 Will Smith still gets to be fun And kind of energetic

[00:56:19] But in a new way And there's a real kind of Emotional charge to Here's this guy with the person He loves and has been missing But this guy doesn't even remember him You know? Yeah It's like 51st dates

[00:56:32] He's got to make K fall in love with him again So they can be best friends Right And you end the movie on some note Maybe of them like meeting up to get coffee And J is still in the agency And K is now a new friend

[00:56:43] Who doesn't remember their whole history But they've become friends again Right And their whole And Men in Black 2 They try to flip it again To make like Will the straight man And Tommy the funny guy It's this amazing thing Where I read this interview

[00:56:55] Because Men in Black 2 came after Wild Wild West Correct I read this interview with Sonnenfeld Where he was like You know what And this is between those two movies Looking back on Wild Wild West I whiffed on that one I don't think it worked

[00:57:07] And I think one of the problems was It was too straight man Yeah Like Will Smith and Kevin Klein Both kind of had to play The straight man role And so like The dynamics were all off And I won't make that mistake again

[00:57:19] Then he makes the mistake again In Men in Black 2 It's the exact same mistake And the other problem is He wants Tommy Lee Jones to be the dumb one So they make it Oh brain damage Because the deneralization He's kind of just like an idiot In that movie

[00:57:31] I think it's funnier to have him Be a curmudgeon Yeah You know Still be high status in that way Because he doesn't respect Will Smith He's Tommy Lee Jones But now he just doesn't believe in alien Yeah So that's a great movie It would have made $500 million

[00:57:43] In one best picture That's our Men in Black 2 Would have ruled And then Men in Black 3 Is just like Whatever It's like going for broke In a way But it's so forgettable Yeah But it has this like much bigger idea Where there's like time travel And the 60s

[00:57:59] And Will Smith's dad Yeah Played by Mike Coulter Correct And like Luke Cage himself One of the most handsome men alive Extremely handsome I did a pilot with that guy once And it's kind of stunning How good it looks Is he nice? So fucking nice Yeah I bought

[00:58:14] I just believe it Yeah So that would be our pitch And I think it's a really good pitch I just think you cannot undo You can't just go back to the status quo Just because you think you need to Agreed And it gets into my Robocop thing

[00:58:28] You don't want to see progress Receited in a sequel Even if you want to get back to the neutral position Of what worked in the first one It's a bummer to the audience To see you take steps back So here are some questions Great Question time baby

[00:58:41] Ben Walker asks Okay Is Ben Hosley The Great Ben Walker Asking about the Great Ben Hosley Pointing to Ben Who he's having to really introduce Oh you mean producer man The Ben Deucer The Poet Laureate The Haas The Tiebreaker Birthday Benny Soak and Wet Benny White Hot Benny

[00:58:58] I like Soak and Wet Benny The Fuckmaster Not Professor Crispy The Fart Detective The Meat Lover Mr. Positive Mr. Hositive The Haas The guy you would wish a Hello Fennel Yeah Graduate to certain titles Over the course of different mini-series Such as Kylo Ben

[00:59:12] And the guy you would wish a Hello Fennel Yeah Ben Deucer Such as Kylo Ben Provisor Ben Kenobi Ben Night Shyamalan Ben Sate Say Ben Anything Ailey Benz with a dollar sign Warhaw's Purdue Grabein And B19 the Fennel maker That's right So is Ben Hosley

[00:59:26] Still a close personal friend Of noted cord wainer Cord wainer I don't know That's the word he uses Okay Dan Lewis I am so happy that I forgot to include That one in the nickname list Because I said it up Pretty well now

[00:59:38] Close personal friend of Dan Lewis I am Yeah Dan and I are really close The cord wainer is a shoemaker You can choose from new leather Wow Good word Does Dan Lewis have any phantom thread Gossip since upcoming movie? Yeah So Dan and I tax pretty regularly

[00:59:53] Gossip wise I mean He's retiring from acting He hasn't really announced What he's doing next Yeah No, I do have exclusive Okay So I just want to say this The shooting process was a nightmare Because they didn't do it on a sound stage

[01:00:05] They did it actually in like This old house And it was like Really tight quarters And like They were sleeping on top of each other He said it was a nightmare Student film Yeah It's just not fun Not a good experience Let's be honest Like

[01:00:21] Dan's sort of doing it for fun You know he's not someone who really wants to put it all On the line for his work So when there's this lack of luxury I want to remind you guys that we have a lot of questions Who want to answer Okay

[01:00:30] Well, alright You're right You're right All questions, no bits No bits Dan is quitting acting Right And he's actually going to start a podcast What? Yeah, I know Dan and I have been kind of like Working on like different concepts I'm going to be sort of like

[01:00:45] On Mike producing his podcast Okay And I thought I don't know if this is cool Because I know we have so much stuff going on Do you have a clip of the podcast? I do Oh my God, Dave

[01:00:55] We got to listen to a little bit of the Dan Lewis podcast Just a little bit No bits But we got to listen to a little bit of the Dan Lewis podcast Okay Hello This is Ira Glass This American Life This week on the show

[01:01:34] Stories of second chances Dan, no People This is someone else's show Well, I've already spent 18 months researching Ira Glass I'm a deep-in character I can't pivot like this I commit hard to things No bits, pros and cons Okay, so yeah, we're back

[01:01:55] He's both no bits, pros and cons Yeah Which you know, good for him Yeah And he's going deep on glass He's so deep on glass that he can't get out Ben, that's the first 30 seconds of the first episode Where does the podcast go from there?

[01:02:08] You immediately shut him down Well, he does like five different stories He's all of the contributors to the episodes Wow, that guy's a good actor Yeah Okay, no bits Next question Sorry My friend in Britain just sent the news That his baby was born

[01:02:23] How do you have friends in Britain? Very good question I was waiting all day for this news I'm very happy for him Congratulations Shout out to Ollie Shout out to his dog Well, you just had a baby as well So, you know, even still This guy

[01:02:36] And it's staring at me with its felt dead eyes Next question Alright So next question How about this from Santa got that jingle jangle AKA Tyrone Warner This is on Twitter What would you consider the best and the worst episode of the show? Hashtag blankies, hashtag twisted

[01:02:54] Hashtag waiting for that Richard Kelly series Keep waiting Maybe we'll do something Maybe someday I'd love him to make a fourth movie, you know Yeah, yeah Like, because even by our standards Like a three episode mini-series The shortest career we've ever talked about doing was four

[01:03:07] And like Richard Kelly's career It's like he made this cult movie that was a hit Then he made this completely bonkers blank check movie That was a flop And then he made this other kind of bonkers blank check But like low, no money movie That was a flop

[01:03:21] That Cameron Diaz famously gave the twist ending away too At the Comic-Con Like that was that You know, sort of excised from Hollywood There are some people who Listeners suggest we cover where it's like This kind of isn't the right time to cover them

[01:03:34] Because we're at the middle of the story The narrative isn't really interesting enough right now Because it's about what they do next Richard Kelly we could do at some point Well, maybe if he comes back out of retirement What was the... I think he's working on it

[01:03:46] I mean, I've heard I don't love his movies but I think he's interesting That's an interesting guy to have out in the world Making movies even if I'm not a huge fan of those movies You know? He's mixing it up He's catfishing us Yeah Agreed

[01:04:00] Was that the first part of the question? No, so the question is What's the best and worst episodes of the show? You know what I go back to? More of like a fave-least fave obviously When I have to recommend Episodes to people And the one I actually

[01:04:13] Relisten to the most And get the most enjoyment out of I think is judging the judge That's interesting And part of it is It's the Rosetta Stone Because it was the episode That sort of started What the podcast would eventually turn into

[01:04:24] Because we were still in the middle of the Star Wars days But that was our first time covering like a movie and episode And talking about the career You know, trajectory and relation to the film And I just think that episode is really fucking good bits on it

[01:04:35] I mean, that's interesting I mean, it does Yeah I mean, it's got some good bits Yeah And the theme song I still think is my proudest moment ever I mean, the theme song was amazing But like, I also feel like that's sort of our

[01:04:50] Like, that's sort of where we first Figured out what the show would be That's what I say So maybe I'm sentimental about it There's sentimental But I do think we've like done Great episodes since then Well, don't pay yourself in the back

[01:05:03] My personal favorite episode is the Matrix episode Unsuppersible I listen back to it all the time I listen back to all our episodes Like plenty of times That's our first But what is your least favorite? Amistad Just because it's just kind of like

[01:05:14] I think we just didn't know what to do You know, but I think we do a bunch of Hopkins with a watering can material That's okay in the middle Yeah There was also You know what actually is my least favorite episode? No, give you a finish though

[01:05:25] There was a bit I did in the Amistad episode That was so bad Ben, you cut it out for my protection Yes Do you remember that? I do Yeah, no, I remember that very clearly I literally was like Actually stop And Ben cut that out

[01:05:37] Like we were like And I doubled down I did it like three times Right, because you kept thinking I think like Oh, well, we're doing our classic thing The beat is you telling me not to do the bit But I was actually like

[01:05:45] Griffin, this actually just won't fly And here's that clip Yeah So now saying that will make people Imagine a much worse bit than what I actually did Well, it wasn't great It wasn't great But if you imagine the worst thing I could have said in Amistad episode

[01:05:59] It's probably much worse than what I actually said But here's my least favorite episode is And I just saw it scrolling by Is the podcastic too Which is I feel like when we had not Like it was like We hadn't It's our sequel to the Judging the Judge

[01:06:11] Right Because it was our second like Non-Star Wars episode It was a sophomore slump But it really is like Everything we shouldn't do Which is like Way too much explaining We're trying to tackle too many movies Which is like a bad idea We never should have done that

[01:06:25] And just kind of like A lot of yelling about comic book shit Like it's just like What I quickly was like Now this isn't our thing The most you want to cover in one episode Is three hotel Transylvania movies And no more than that That's the most

[01:06:37] Alright, so that was Those are good answers, right? Yeah Oh, this is actually We should talk about this Alright, this is also on Twitter Andy Garmuga I'm going to get to the emails Don't worry He'd love to hear our official responses To the J.J. Abrams news

[01:06:49] Because we did have our Trevor O. Pod Where we were speculating Like, oh, Ryan Johnson Right, that he would Sign on to Direct 9 We even said in that episode J.J. has already kind of said He doesn't want to do it

[01:06:59] But that's the old J.J. fast one Because they offered him Force Awakens early And he said, nope I would never direct a Star Wars movie Then he signed on Right When Trevor O. was Outstead He was like I don't think I want to go back

[01:07:12] To Star Wars and then he signed on It now sort of makes more sense Because I think the Ryan Johnson trilogy thing Was brewing That he wouldn't want to do 9 You know, because he was setting up this trilogy That's since been announced

[01:07:22] That's going to be its own independence And also, yeah, my guess is You know, this fucking Making one of these things Is such a slog Right That I think it just would have been too demanding Or maybe he just didn't have the idea

[01:07:31] To do it back to back Or maybe Disney was like Would you like to I wonder who I mean, I'm sure Ryan had some kind of a pitch Of like I also heard whispers that J.J. had some FOMO About not doing 8

[01:07:45] Well, I mean, he was sort of up front About like You know, I felt like with 7 We needed to ease people back in And that's why I feel like it was a little more slavish To the original I mean, I read Ryan's script for 8 And I was like

[01:07:56] This is great I would love to do something like that And also that 7 was very well received And I think some of his nerves about How high stakes poker your playing By making a new Star Wars movie People rag on him But he had An incredibly difficult task

[01:08:08] Yeah Because episode 7 Complicated by the fact that that movie Had all kinds of production troubles That were not his fault That were just Right And he, you know I think he did a great job I think that movie is wonderful Now that have been said

[01:08:19] J.J. was notoriously better At starting stuff than continuing Or concluding things Right So minor bit of trepidation there He's always That's always where he starts to stumble Because you know what The initial world building His layout of the characters All that stuff is always good with him

[01:08:35] I know what you're saying You know what I agree with you But it's just like To me it's like The upgrade from Trevor Oda Abrams Yeah Is so phenomenal That I can't even think Like oh what if Brad Bird blah blah blah Whatever you know

[01:08:48] But I'll say this You know A lot of the modern directors Kind of young up and coming guys Were getting pulled into the studio Assistant when people ask us If we do blank checks on them It's like We've talked about this Blank check doesn't really exist

[01:08:59] In the same way anymore Because it's like Oh if you have a decent movie Get a big blockbuster But it's so managed Well now the blank checks That we're identifying It's more like Yeah the studio gave you A ton of money To make a brandy movie Right

[01:09:11] Not a brandy movie Right Because we're not yet At the boys mind Sure In Mac Universe But you know And then you do something weird But the difference between Like Quarron doing Azkaban and then getting To make Children of Man And Gravity versus like David Yates doing

[01:09:27] Four Harry Potter movies And then getting to make Tarzan and Fantastic Beasts You know it's like He's just staying within The tentpole kind of Journeyman thing Yeah But the Ryan Johnson news Is really fascinating Because that feels like As much of a blank check As anyone has gotten

[01:09:42] Within these types of Rigid cinematic universes So far Who knows what those films Will end up being But if they're allowed to Out of whole claw creative New trilogy That's really exciting Next question Yeah so thank you Andy And he also wants to know How we think

[01:09:55] WB will panic after Justice League And we talk about We should We'll just briefly mention We were way off Under Justice League The most off we've ever been Not just about Justice League But I think I said The star was gonna Delgo it up But it did fine

[01:10:08] We thought Star was gonna Make like two it did nine It made like ten And it got an A plus cinema Score We thought Wonder was Gonna do twelve it did twenty eight Wonder I believe is made Four billion dollars At time of recording My man Tramp-lay

[01:10:19] Tramp-lay has been Crown King of America It's fucking nuts It's nuts Wonder's gonna make Like two hundred million Domestic You know it's partly I think also We are really underrating Julia Yeah You know people Are ready for her again Yeah although it's weird Cause she had a couple

[01:10:36] Even Wonder's gonna greatly outgrow You pray love Which was her sort of Comeback movie after being gone For like five years And the ones since then Haven't burnt up the box office I think it's the right time I think it's the right role For her

[01:10:47] I think there's a generational thing To like girls who grew up with Julia Now being mothers And being able to take their kids To see Julia Roberts movie And all that All that sort of stuff Nothing but respect For my man Tramp-lay Anyway And S-to-W-B and Justice League

[01:10:59] I really just don't know The panic thing The panicking But what they need to do Is not panic And just Make good movies Like look we've got our command coming Hopefully that'll be okay But more importantly We have Wonder Woman 2 coming That's in like production Yeah

[01:11:13] And like making good movies Is way more important Than anything else here Look here's my advice to Warner Brothers They got like 20 things They've announced at one point Or another they're working on And the E-D-M-E-C-U-O-M-D-C No fuck off Whatever right Next question What I'm saying is

[01:11:30] They should look at those 20 scripts And whatever script is best They should make that movie They should make movies that have good scripts Okay Next question Ryan Rosendahl asks Has any of the miniseries Changed your opinion of a director? I feel like we all

[01:11:42] Pretty much like these directors going in Yes Shyamalan a little bit I would, I had really written him off As a joke Yeah When we started doing him Yes And you know Even though I still don't like A lot of his movies I was like no I forgot

[01:11:57] Like I forgot this guy is like for real Right It's just that he made a lot Of weird decisions Individual movies certainly Have changed my mind on You know I don't know A whole cloth You know Yeah I mean maybe someday That'd be nice

[01:12:10] I'd love to completely change My opinion of a director Although it'd be a bummer If it was realized And a director sucked Who I thought I loved Right But it hasn't happened yet I think I'm still basically Apart from that like You know Yeah Like the second half

[01:12:23] The Cameron Crow series is a bummer But I re-watched J.R. McGuire with The Family Over Thanksgiving God does that movie work Perfect movie Ambassador of Quam As you know I like that movie Yeah Ambassador of Quam My dear Wormwood At my dear Wormwood Okay

[01:12:37] Tobit asks for your I'm gonna provide mine Okay But your definitive Muppet movie ranking Here's his Which I wildly disagree with Okay Or maybe it's backwards Yeah Well I saw this ranking I think he's going in Descending order From Best Wars Well then his from

[01:12:55] Best Wars is the Muppets Muppets from Space Muppets Christmas Carol Muppet Great Muppet Caper Muppets in Manhattan Muppets in Manhattan Muppet Treasure Island Muppets most wanted The Muppet Movie The Muppet Movie is at the bottom Then maybe it has to be ascending Also I mean

[01:13:09] Muppets from Space is At the bottom of everyone's list Any honorable American It's a bad movie Yeah So maybe it is ascending But what's yours My order I'll say it shifts a lot And it shifted even recently Okay I oscillate between The Muppet Movie And Muppets in Manhattan

[01:13:27] Being number one I'd say as of right now I'd probably put the Muppet Movie number one I'd put Muppet in Manhattan number two I'd put Muppet Christmas Carol number three My most controversial opinion is I like Caper less than Most hardcore Muppet fans Then I would put

[01:13:46] I think at the present moment I maybe put Muppets most wanted A hair before the Muppets Sure Because Muppets most wanted Is more of like a Muppet movie And it's a Yeah Rather than like a Jason Seale movie It was less well received Because people were more into

[01:14:02] Or had gotten accustomed to the Jason Seale format And the Yeah Muppets most wanted is like a pure outright Muppet movie Has some really good fucking songs in it too And Konstantin's a great character So I would do that Then I would put Great Muppet Caper

[01:14:16] Then I would put Muppet Treasure Island And then I would put Dead Dead Last Muppets from Space So mine would be Number one Muppet Movie I think I just think that that's a special movie I agree Then number two Muppets Christmas Carol

[01:14:30] Which is very important in my childhood And you know what doesn't get enough credit Really well directed Very beautifully directed Actually looks amazing Brian Henson, you know, doesn't have A lot of the sort of creativity and vision Of his father But as a technical director

[01:14:46] He is a better filmmaker It's an atmospheric movie Like genuinely And Michael Cain's pretty darn good The sets are so fucking good And that's a That's a Terrific I just love the bit with Gonzo playing Dickens I just think that's funny I do too To this day

[01:14:59] And then I guess And the songs are great in them Then I guess I would go like Take Manhattan Caper Like three, four I like both of those I haven't watched either of them since I was a kid We watched Take Manhattan Rules

[01:15:09] Yeah, no, I think that's my three Then four And then And then I guess I'll put the seagull one fifth And most wanted six Those ones are just whatever to me And then And then like Get out of here I just am, I'm sorry about that stuff

[01:15:22] I don't, I'm not even trying to be a dick It's like Then Treasure Island in space They're at the bottom Treasure Island's fun It's fun All those movies except for space are basically good Space is rough Yeah I saw that in theaters I'll say this Filmstruck currently

[01:15:39] They recently put up a collection of like Jim Hansen short films Like his experimental live action short films And animated short films he made When he was young Pre-Muppets And also some of his later TV specials Which makes me think that they're maybe putting together criteria

[01:15:51] And non-Muppet works of Jim Hansen box set Which I would love But I rewatched those the other night What a good guy that was What an interesting artist that guy was To be working in such a mainstream popular space Man, I like that guy Alejandro Villareal, old fam

[01:16:08] The great Alejandro Asked what's your favorite performance of 2017 Next question one Okay Let me, I gotta consult my list So give me question two as well at the same time What is the performance with the most ham With a dash of paprika From 2017 Most performance My favorite 2017 performance

[01:16:29] Is Willem Dafoe That's my performance of the year That's the performance that clicked with me And there's a lot of performances I love this year Like a lot And we'll talk about that more on the Blankies episode next year But that, I think that performance is like Astonishing

[01:16:46] I'm gonna throw a crazy one out there Sure And it's crazy because it's a movie I don't really love I certainly love it less than other people But it's kind of the performance I keep on coming back to I think Patrick Stewart's pretty fucking phenomenal In Logan

[01:17:02] That's a great performance That performance kinda floored me Top ten of the year but it's like amazing Yeah, I see, I think it's like upper echelons I think that's one of the best Yeah, but all right, all right But have you considered something What?

[01:17:14] I don't even know if I should say this And I just noticed that Ben is googling Assassin's Creed IMDb page Which is a wonderful thing that he just did Say it, say it Logan is kind of a secret western I know I know

[01:17:28] David you can't say that on life Because the Starwackers might come after The Illuminati might come after us Yeah, he is Yes, secretly On the DL Logan's a western I'm not crazy about that film Me neither I think it's pretty good I actually think it's great

[01:17:47] Except for the R rated stuff Interesting I think that, and like I don't mind that it's rated R Per se But it's like I think like anytime it's sort of It's a little extra about like the violence And the stuff Right Especially the sort of barn

[01:18:01] You know the house sequence in the middle of the movie I'm just like it kind of takes me out of it And it becomes like just sort of A little, it just seems like it's trying too hard Sure Like I like the world that it has going

[01:18:13] Like the weird sort of like crappy future And I love the like weird things Like those self-driving trucks And like, you know, like this whole world That's just sort of like automated But like in a kind of lame and boring way

[01:18:25] I just think that movie should be an hour shorter It's a bit too long Because it feels like it has no narrative propulsion Because a lot of that movie is Logan refusing the call Is her asking him to take her To this place where the kids are

[01:18:38] And him going it doesn't exist, shut up, shut up And then some people chase them and they go a little further But he still doesn't want to take her there Yeah And you compare that to Children of Man Which is a movie it's very similar to

[01:18:48] Or even though Clive Owen's character doesn't believe That the ship exists He keeps moving forward trying to take her there Because that's his job, you know And Logan I think kind of just Spins its own wheels for a large section of it

[01:19:00] But the Patrick Stewart performance is one of the Most heartbreaking sort of dementia performances I've ever seen Because I think he balances the lucidity With the sort of absence really, really well Which makes it very heartbreaking when he has these moments

[01:19:15] Where he's right there and you see it slip in his eyes I just walked out of that movie and I was like God, bright, that guy is such a good fucking actor Yeah Alright, what's the hammiest performance of the year? And to me that means good

[01:19:27] Ham with the dash of Perpeka means good So I'm going to speak up for it I mean an obvious answer to this And you probably haven't seen this movie yet Is Old Man in Darkest Hour Which is like a sort of But like the secret

[01:19:37] He's chewing ham on that Yes, but actually the secret of that performance Is this shit he nails is the quiet stuff That's why that performance is actually good Rather than just like typical thundering To me the best ham Perpeka performance of the year Is Jake Gyllenhaal in Stronger

[01:19:53] Which is this very sort of like big And kind of a little obvious And like a type we've seen before The like Boston, you know, Schmuck Who's like Is like still like really good and authentic But like at times you're like Okay Jake, you know we got it

[01:20:08] You got the accent I'll say My favorite I think is our Paterson in Good Time I mean I think that's a wonderful performance But that's a very big performance He's taking huge swings That's such a good performance The entire movie he's full tilt

[01:20:21] But I think it always feels like a real fucking guy I like that movie a lot I love that performance Yeah, that's an incredible performance I'm going to throw a hot take Performance I think could have used a little more ham

[01:20:32] Too much Perpeka, I want a little more ham on it Yeah Elizabeth Banks and Power Rangers I would sit there the whole time going Liz you can go bigger She could have gone bigger She's big in that movie but She could go huge and it would work

[01:20:45] The movie could support that Whereas I think Cranston is actually kind of In a weird, in a weird, in the pocket there Well he wins my best supporting actor He's so good Well you know what he is awful at His last fight flying I've heard that

[01:20:58] That is a stinky performance We'll get to that later I'm LaFelon's asks Have I ever been recognized in public This he's asking Ben and I Because obviously you get recognized in public And if yes Because of the pod and if yes how did it feel

[01:21:11] Yes, and it's very strange Almost always though it's at like At Toronto I got recognized a bunch And if I go to rep screenings once in a while Because that's where the movie nerds are It's very weird Ben you've gotten some, you've gotten some shout outs Right? Yeah

[01:21:25] You've gotten some Hello Fennels I've gotten definitely some Hello Fennels At comedy shows And then I feel like all of your film friends Sure Oh sure, right of course They're like producer Ben They're like starshark They're always like enthusiastic in a way

[01:21:40] Where I'm very honored and yeah it's nice I'll say this I've maybe gotten like physically Recognized more for the podcast than the tech Really? I get stopped a lot for podcast things Or even like there was the time I think I told you I went to the

[01:21:57] Ocean's 8 rap party Where I didn't know anybody I brought Romali Because I have my two lines in Ocean's 8 That are gonna get cut out When it comes out 18 months from now And I like didn't know anyone there

[01:22:08] Like none of the crew people came up and talked to me The like two people who came up and talked to me were like Hey you're Griffin Newman from Blank Check right? Wow In a room with like Sandra Bullock and Anne Hathaway

[01:22:18] They were like you're the Blank Check guy right? Yeah And I got stopped a lot of Comic Con Like for Blank Check shit Blankies It's always very sweet and I just I think it's great Keep doing what you're doing baby Interesting

[01:22:31] What are your pet peeves while watching a movie? Asks the Mon Gang I mean cell phones on is a nightmare for me If I saw one with a cell phone screen I can't stop looking at it I had to move C times I get upset on two levels

[01:22:45] Where it's like one I'm mad that they're doing it And two I'm also just mad that it's distracting me It's like a fizzy lot of response Your eyes go towards a light in a dark room You know so you can't ignore it

[01:22:56] And I also hate the statement they're making Like you just paid fucking $15 Just slapped it down on the barrel And now you're sitting here and immediately taking your phone out And playing like a good champion What else do I hate though? That's like the Yeah honestly I'm fine

[01:23:11] I mean I like an aisle I know you like the middle I like the middle That's not really a pet peeve That's more just a preference They call me Patricia Heaton because you can find me in the middle I don't like it when you can hear the train

[01:23:21] Sure at the Angelica Yeah that kind of takes me out a little bit I'm gonna throw one out which might be surprising Just because I think most people don't care But it actually annoys me When people leave the theater before the movie ends Yeah that drives me crazy

[01:23:35] Unless I mean look if we're in the credits Fine you can leave When people are like oh the film seems to be wrapping up Let me leave No this isn't a baseball stadium No Alright Stephen Hofford asks have you tried poutine And if so yes or no

[01:23:49] Yeah fucking love it I spend a lot of time in Toronto Right because you go to Toronto every year At least once a year if not twice I have good friends who live there And I'm all about poutine And I'll get it anywhere I can get it

[01:23:59] I mean cause like you know in Canada they got like poutine Like Burger King or whatever So if I'm at like a nice place with my friends I'll get poutine But if it's like three o'clock in the morning Burger King is open I'll get some Burger King poutine

[01:24:09] Burger King poutine I'm all about poutine Well I had never had poutine until I went to Toronto last This year for the festival And like one day I was like well shit I gotta I gotta do it I gotta get the poop

[01:24:20] And I did it and I was FaceTiming with Joanna cause we were You know chatting cause I was away And so And I was just sitting there like shoving It's good I mean obviously it's like french fries The Gravian Curd Yeah it's the three best Nice

[01:24:35] But I would whole time I was like man I'm gonna poop everywhere after this Right you know And I didn't So shout out to that poutine It's got some structural integrity to it That was fine Can I read a couple here just speed round a couple Okay

[01:24:50] Okay you're creating now I just got three here that I saw because They were responses to me Okay fair enough go ahead Retreating the things so they're not gonna show up in your thing James Ward the great James Ward Opinions on Rotten Tomatoes becoming

[01:25:02] The go-to metric for films quality I think we both got the same take on this So I wanna get it out here quickly Fine Because I feel like we both I'm sure I agree just say it Offhandedly slammed it and people want to know why Okay

[01:25:11] The problem is that Rotten Tomatoes Only tells you how many people think a movie is Watchable Fine It's okay Fine So you can get a film that has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes Where everyone goes it's a 6 out of 10 Here's how it goes for me Well yes exactly

[01:25:26] Metacritic is a much better system because it's an average based off Of giving everyone's review a score from 1 to 100 So I belong to Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic Yeah And I submit my reviews Which is I think what they prefer Yeah Rather than them faking it

[01:25:41] So with Rotten Tomatoes I will enter my review and say if it was fresh or rotten Right Usually an easy distinction Yeah So if you ask me and I like to Tell them the number Sure Like give them a number rating This is kind of a 75 Yeah

[01:25:54] And yeah Metacritic is a lot better system for that reason They also are You know they're very picky about who they Include Not that Rotten Tomatoes shouldn't be You shouldn't be more broad It's fine But that's the thing like Rotten Tomatoes Is just giving you a consensus

[01:26:06] And something like Lady Bird Which now is the best review movie in the history of Rotten Tomatoes Which I think is a phenomenal film What's more important is it has a 94 on Metacritic That's crazy Yeah that's nuts But it speaks to the fact that like

[01:26:17] That's a movie that's hard to dislike I agree Whereas most great movies are divisive That's our take down Okay Okay speed round two more If you could pick one company to make a griffin Arthur Toy what would it be? That's your question

[01:26:28] That's hence why I'm reading it right now I don't want to slam anything Because there's still the companies that are maybe Producing things with those seem to be Some speed bumps and getting Arthur merchandise out there There's a company called Super 7 I really like

[01:26:40] That does like weird retro stuff Yeah There's a line called reaction figures Where they make modern day toys that look like The old 70 Star Wars figures With the kind of crude rigid sculpting I would like that What's your other one? Big old nerd

[01:26:54] When will you be covering Martin Breast PTA most importantly Frank Oz So I'm using this as a catch all For all the questions that are just One of you covering this person Yeah yeah yeah Which we get a lot Which is fine

[01:27:05] I mean it obviously is the format of our show Right So it's fine I'll tip a hat and say We're working on something I think fans will find very exciting Right Regarding all of this The collection of all the people who get brought up a lot

[01:27:16] In our conversations We have a lot of people In like sort of planned for next year We have all but one miniseries Locked down pretty much at this point Yes And what we're going to do with that One open spot I think fans will find exciting

[01:27:29] And we'll talk about that Later in the year Yeah I mean later in 2018 Yes Here's a question from King Guthroom That Oh the great King Guthroom That I have been asked a few times Including by the great David Ehrlich Past and Future guest

[01:27:44] What the heck does sweaty meet In context of a film Slash story I think this I thought this was obvious Me too I once tried to use it in an article And my great and wonderful editor Lenica McCruz One of my good friends Was like

[01:27:58] Literally was just like No What is that word Fuck no You're not using that And I was like right This is just our word Well it's weird I always used it And my friend Spidey Who I've talked to before In the room when I dropped out of college

[01:28:10] When I was 19 We use sweaty all the time I don't remember which one of us Brought it to the other But we would Anytime we use sweaty Describe something We crack up laughing The idea is A visible amount of effort You're seeing sweat You're seeing the movie sweat

[01:28:23] It's just like in Total Recall Where he sees the beat of sweat Go down his face Right The thing's getting sweaty And it's like he knows Something's up It's not operating smoothly Even if you make it through It's not without Visible effort Seth Finkelstein asks Is Don Blue

[01:28:36] With the only blank check Animator in the modern day No Alright Yeah that's true And also modern day I mean his day is a pass He's doing crowdfunding campaigns To start a dragon slayer We cool to do Bluth Bluth will be cool The 90s run is rough

[01:28:49] Right but that was That was a weird run he had Where he had a blank check Because Spielberg gave it to him Because they wanted to try To take down Disney Larry Lazard asks Super Mario Brothers Great movie or the greatest Movie I've seen the low key

[01:29:00] Gentleman's Three Stars David gave it on Letterbox I love Super Mario Brothers I've seen them I did too That's a weird movie My brother and I I've watched a lot I know it's not good But it's so fucking weird And I think I'm going to be

[01:29:11] On Masterpiece next year To talk about it Really? Not part of the Five Timers But yeah I got one here from Facebook Josh Badi asks What's your favorite movie You think deserves a remake For example it was a genius idea But it was just terribly executed

[01:29:22] Or you could even do this question What's your favorite movie That deserves slash needs A sequel that never got one Okay I got a really good Answer for this I always thought that The time is over And I'm not sure That's a good question But I'm not sure

[01:29:33] That's a good question But I'm not sure That's a good question But I always thought that The Last Star Fighter Was the most remakeable movie Because it's a phenomenal presence A premise for a film That was executed okay A subject that's only more relevant now An omnipresent

[01:29:50] In terms of like The culture's relationship To video games And was also hobbled by Limited budget and special effects There was a period of time Where I would When you're in Hollywood Jesus wrap this up Do the rounds Do these general meetings

[01:30:02] I had a general meeting at Universal And I told them that I thought you could do a really good Last Star Fighter remake And pitch it on them And they were like Could you try to write this thing for us And I was for a period of time

[01:30:11] Writing sort of treatment stuff For a last star fighter Remake it never got very far It's never been paid money But I had take on it I thought was really good And it turned out that The rights on that thing Are like a fucking Like boondoggle

[01:30:24] They're split between companies That went out of business They're separated And the screenwriter Still retains The approval rights for anything And he doesn't want To let anyone remake it Because he thinks he's going to make a sequel With the original cast Which will never happen Never, ever happen

[01:30:38] But here's the reason I'm bringing this up Why? Both Seth Rogen and Steven Spielberg Actively wanted to remake The Last Star Fighter I think Rogen's pitch was a little similar to mine Neither of them could get the right Spielberg said give up on it's not possible

[01:30:49] That's one of the reasons That Spielberg did Ready Player One Because it had the elements Of what he wanted to do in Last Star Fighter And that's the new Rogen show Future Man Is similarly him trying to get out his stuff Right

[01:30:59] That's the way I think would be Most remakable Sky High 2 is the sequel I want to see most It's too late now Because the kids grew up Though maybe you could do A next generation kind of thing First Sky High rules I'm going to be talking about that

[01:31:09] On Masterpiece This is the episode We're talking about Masterpiece Remake Fletch Okay fine With you No, no, don't Yeah, with me in it No, but Ben's going to be in it Okay fine All the steak sandwich And the steak sandwich He's so funny David

[01:31:22] He's our funny little boy I'm going to switch over to the emails Do you not have answers? No Okay cool David David is That's like too complicated a question I would have to like think about that for a while

[01:31:34] I think there were some good scoops in my answer No, no, I think your answers are good You had answers Yeah I was briefly Writing up a treatment for the last time That was never shown to higher ups I mean I'm into it Yeah Joe

[01:31:47] Oh the other one is Obviously my dream project Is I want to remake Midnight Run With me and Gal Gadot Okay Sounds great You know who's cute though Is Camille and Gal Gadot They've now done like two separate Things together for awards

[01:31:59] And they've become this kind of like fun couple Okay that's cute But let me and her make a buddy comedy together I want dibs on that Andrew Madigan asks What do you think of Coco And how does it rank in the Pixar pantheon

[01:32:10] I'm hoping to see it after this podcast Yeah we talked about it on this episode I mean because like I can get there late right Because I don't want to see this fucking garbage Oh yeah The fucking Olaf thing The movie will start 35 minutes after

[01:32:20] Avertize Showtime at the earliest Um, alright I loved it I think I I can't rank it yet Because I've only seen it once And I've seen every other Pixar movie too many times Other than the ones that I hate But right now I think Pixar is

[01:32:33] I think Coco rather Is in the top 40% of my Pixar rankings Alright well so here's I think it's maybe about eight or nine on my list Here's Kate Fou... Foyo Foyo I think it's Foyo Foyo, do you know her I was corrected once for saying her name incorrectly

[01:32:47] I'm sorry Foyo I think it's Fuego Oh well it's got There's no g- well whatever Okay Um, Kate Foyo Foyo Okay I just asked What's your favorite park? Like, you know Central Park Well sure Yeah No I think she means Theme Park Uh, I'm weirdly partial to the

[01:33:06] Universal Studios in Hollywood Which is very small, manageable size And whenever I go out to LA for work stuff I go there by myself And if you are a single writer At a theme park You don't have to wait online Because any family that has

[01:33:19] An odd number of people They throw you on there So I can go on like every ride Within two hours Except I just have to sit creepily Next to a family But I did that once When I was screen testing for Malaney They flew me out

[01:33:32] And because it was NBC They had me stay at the Universal Hotel There next to the theme park And my screen test was at noon And I went to Universal I woke up at 9 am Went on every single ride And was back in my hotel room in time

[01:33:43] To screen test and fucking book the gig And then get fired Uh, right Um, what's your favorite ride? I mean Now it honestly might be the Avatar ride It was previously at the Haunted Mansion Well, she wants to know how long did you wait

[01:33:58] And I think you've answered that already First time I think about an hour And changed second time about 15 minutes She says you're disowned You have to wait at least two hours According to her And are you one of those heathens That prefers Universal Doesn't seem like you are

[01:34:10] Well I said I like the Yeah I understand objectively People, Disney fans hate Universal I like Universal a lot But I understand the craft is better at Disney Universal has more properties Than I'm into right now Maybe, I don't know, Disney has Pixar Who knows, next question

[01:34:26] Okay, mail back you for Ben This is from Nathan W Great Nathan W You've worked on a I think it's Nathan Swagner Maybe, yeah You've worked on a lot of podcasts as a producer True What is it about blank check

[01:34:39] That gives it a special place in your heart I think it's the two hour run times Yeah, cool That's what I really love No, uh Ben wants to kill himself What are we at? 415 now for this app? Yeah, at least I remember when you guys pitched this show

[01:34:54] And uh Legendary pit It was ridiculous But I had worked with Griffin Previously we've talked about the other show It was like a gethard, like a kind of recap show Yeah, gethard show And so what I really recognized in you guys Was that you were passionate

[01:35:11] About what you're talking about You really, really knew the ins and outs To a level where having done this now For over two years with you guys Like I've learned shit about the industry Well, this is an educational podcast First and foremost I mean legit

[01:35:25] Like you guys know like feedback all the time People even reading these emails Because we're not going to be able to get to all of them But you guys really know this world And love this world And have a hand-to-hand

[01:35:37] And have a passion for the world of Pandora The world of Pandora So yeah, I just I've really enjoyed working on this project With you guys We love you, Ben Get out of here, we love you You're really the reason this keeps going, I would say

[01:35:49] At least especially at the beginning, I would say Can you imagine us having to upload this podcast On a weekly basis? That alone, not even the recording I remember when we were first pitching it We were like, I'm down But you really should find someone for us

[01:36:00] To help us with everything Because I can't do this myself And I remember thinking Because I was doing this DIY podcast With Sony where I was like, oh, it's not that hard But you didn't do that many episodes You weren't on a regular basis No, I know

[01:36:11] I'm making fun of myself I'm just like what the fuck I never would have been anyway I knew we needed Ben William Taylor's got a few questions for us Okay, speed round The great William Taylor Speed round One would as theoretical Steven Soderbergh Miniseries do all his movies

[01:36:24] Or start in the 2000s No, you would have to start at the beginning But it's a lot I mean the reason we're not going to do it Any time soon is it's so many movies And it's like after sexilizing videotape

[01:36:36] It's like six movies that are like really weird Kafka and the Underneath And King of the Hill Which are like interesting movie And Skitopolis, which he's a big fan of And like Skitopolis is an interesting movie But like fucking hell I'd love to do him someday

[01:36:50] You know, I think the two instances we've done Of like limiting a filmography for the sake of miniseries There's a clear kind of ellipses point to why That represents a certain era And there isn't with him Because he's all over the place The 2000s you just go

[01:37:02] This was his most successful period But it doesn't feel like there's an instrumental shift In the way he was making movies Well, there isn't a reason I mean he's getting more studio attention After he makes out of sight It's just weird anyway I'd love to do him

[01:37:13] It just would be hard Well, maybe someday Put it on the books We'll do them in 2022 Maybe someday, exactly Number two, David You spoke highly of the AV Club commenters In the last mail bag I don't remember Maybe sarcastically But do you remember

[01:37:26] The commenter memes about you there I still have to fight back the urge To call you capital letters Sims Yeah, I do remember They ragged on you Yeah, I mean I think there was a lot of love To those days But... A lot of tough love, too

[01:37:43] It was some tough love I don't like comments I never read them You had to do recaps on Seinfeld And Simpsons Classic Simpsons Which kind of thank those jobs Because people are very impassioned The other thing is though I actually also recapped A lot of modern shows

[01:37:55] That were also Like modern family? Never did modern family That also had very passionate fan bases That could be very mean Specifically it's always sunny in Philadelphia And true blood Sure Those are two of my assignments That were really... They could be hard on anyone Yeah

[01:38:11] And it was just I don't read the comments ever On anything But there was just Explained there was this meme Of yelling Sims When people were frustrated With your takes Yeah, well yes That was generated Out of Seinfeld And then it became One of the commenter awards

[01:38:26] Was the Sims award For like most clueless reviewer Or something like that Anyway, you know It was all fine But then my friends Called wind of it And they would send me Every week emails Yeah And they would send me Every single one of the comments

[01:38:38] They felt were the funniest And you're like too Which is like I was trying to avoid them Yeah So it weighed on me a little bit That's like when people Sometimes tweet at me Mean things That people wrote about me On the internet And it's like

[01:38:50] I don't want to see this Maybe I don't like when People insult me I genuinely don't like Comments and don't read them And I know a lot of people Especially now with Kinja Am I right? That's fucking Kinja Very true I do actually have a Kinja cap

[01:39:02] I don't know Because I had to To like my... Do you and Kelly Ryecart Still keep in touch? We don't keep in touch I had a great experience I mean she's one of my Favorite living filmmakers Great filmmaker Her last movie was Phenomenal A great...

[01:39:16] That was the last day Of filming the last scene So it's the end of the movie There has been The last scene of Night Moves Wait, wait, hold on You were working on some Night Moves I was working on some Night Moves It was a day shoot

[01:39:27] But I was working On some Night Moves But it was cool Because that's the end Of the movie Which means that The scene kind of has more You know I've had a lot of people Ask me like What that scene was about Because a lot of people

[01:39:39] Find that ending kind of Inscrutable But I Likeed how oblique it was I originally thought In the script There were two different Managers written And I thought I was playing the one With less lines And I got to set And found out That they'd combined The two parts

[01:39:55] Right Suddenly my role Was double sized Which was very exciting And I got to work With Jesse Asberg Who's a real manche Yes And I was working With the rap party Which was that night In Medford, Oregon And boy was it A fucking rager

[01:40:09] I'll tell you the best A anecdote about it Kelly Riker Who has a very specific Acting style she wants In the least Specific At least surprising Most specific Direction of all time Told me that I talked too fast To be in a Kelly Riker Movie Sure

[01:40:24] So every takes You just kept on Telling me to slow down Slower griffin And then there was a part Where you overhear Me talking about something The way it's mixed And having his melt down That was written Being like, I don't know Why he'd sabotage all of that

[01:40:36] You know, he was getting Paid good money And she was like Feel free to improvise And add some more on to that And I used the term residuals And she called cut Because she was like This guy would never know The term residuals

[01:40:48] You know too much about show Business to play this character It's a good story Yeah But great movie I was really honored To be in it I don't even touch with her But I had a fucking great Time working on them Alright Harrison O'Claire

[01:40:59] We got a lot of emails Dude, we're not even Answering all these to be clear But let's speed around Like five more No, I know I just I want to I appreciate how many emails We got and we will try to get back To these

[01:41:09] We will try and do these episodes Once in a while Twice a year maybe Harrison O'Claire asked three Questions, one of which was What's our minute black two pitch So we answered that But I want to answer his final Question I want to go off this

[01:41:19] Why does David love Thor 2 So much for one Both of us love Thor 2 Maybe I love it More than you I don't know about that But we both really love it I love it Yeah It's still the best of The Thor movies I'm not going to come out

[01:41:31] But I just got to hear his take That's why I wanted to bring this up Because we both saw Ragnarok And I think we're both in the low end Yeah Of Ragnarok fandom I thought it was fun Because yeah, it's totally fun

[01:41:40] And I think I've sort of nailed Why I don't like Ragnarok And why I do like the dark world Yeah In thinking about both movies Stakes Stakes for sure Ragnarok has no stakes No, because when you apply The Taiko Batidi thing to it That clashes with

[01:41:54] And his whole style is fun And the movie is just really entertaining And sort of joyful But anytime it gets into Like the Marvel plotty World building stuff It's hard to take any of that stuff seriously And it's like I'd prefer that movie If they didn't concern him

[01:42:08] With any of that And he could have just made Now a comedy But as it is When you get to like the final battle At Asgard, I'm just kind of like Well, I can't take any of this The final battle is rough Yeah

[01:42:18] The villain is pretty rough too As much as Kate Sort of trying to pull us in Going for it But that stuff feels kind of Perfunctory in the movie It feels like he just has to Get that done Thor 2, I think both you and I

[01:42:29] Like that it's a really good brother movie I think it's a good brother dynamic movie I think it's a great brother movie You know, obviously the dynamic Is in 1 and 3 as well But it's best in 2 One is sort of setting it up

[01:42:40] I think 3 they make him a little too friendly They don't totally deal with The weight of how much bad shit Loki's done Yeah, forget he killed Phil Coulson Right They've sort of just Yeah Well, I think Dark World gets to this Like you're always going to be attached

[01:42:52] To your family even if you hate them I agree I also just think Dark World Is just unashamed of diving into The sort of Lord of the Ringsy kind of vibe I like how much they own that shit And you literally will have Like zooming in and then

[01:43:06] On screen it's like Vanaheim or whatever And this is the opening line Like in the beginning there were dark elves Which is just like Fuck nothing And then from nothing came the dark elves Something like that I also think And like Hopkins is like dialed up

[01:43:18] Whereas in Ragnarok He is just silly Yes The scene where Loki as Hopkins Is watching the play in Ragnarok Loki good Is good Loki good But it's also It's also The thesis problem My problem with the movie Which is the whole movie

[01:43:35] Is just like the whole Ragnarok movie Is like Man those Thor movies are fucking dumb As I said on Letterbox And Avengers Age of Ultron is dumb The movie feels to me Like a mad magazine parody of itself Which like fine If you want to make

[01:43:49] In your 20th Marvel movie Just a dumb parody of Marvel movies Fine but like It feels like Jaws 3 People Zero Like that Pitch Joe Dante He's like making fun of the Sons getting real low fit And like I'm sure people find that funny

[01:43:59] But like it's kind of like Okay So you had your fun Like by the way I agree also I mean Malkithy, Accuser Boring villain We all agree on that I like him I don't agree I think I've all since Fun in it But the thing I don't think

[01:44:14] That I don't ever get enough credit for One of the better Final set pieces of any Marvel movie Them fighting through the dimensions And the wormholes It's visually inventive It's exciting Love it Funny Love it Solid Fucking movie Next question Oh we got one here about Vaporwave

[01:44:30] My favorite So I was saying Is this a real question? Yeah no It's from Mindspring Memories Okay So I'd say I'd say check out Death's Dynamic Shroud Okay that's enough I'm not for that I'm not for that David next question Okay Sorry What are front dining skits?

[01:44:48] Yeah okay Okay What are front dining What is this Pandora? Uh All the bad time There's a bunch of questions Asking if we'll do like live shows Especially like a lot of people are asking If we'll do live shows outside of the city

[01:45:01] I mean I hate doing live shows You don't like doing it It's just not my thing Yeah I would do it again obviously Like you know But it would have to be kind of like a reason We've never been able to quite

[01:45:10] Adapt our show to a live show There's that idea I have That you like That just requires more planning Outside of us We have to sort of girls of podcast Be able to do this But be able to do like screenings

[01:45:19] Where we do a Q&A with someone afterwards Yeah that would be fun That would be a lot of fun But uh Right That requires like planning In Jesus Christ We're like training water Just putting this thing out Right But if we were able to like

[01:45:31] Host a screening of Say you know Uh Strange days at the Metrograph And then do a Q&A With like Angela Bassett afterwards That would rule And if we were to do that We would really say as a podcast That there is a lot of planning involved

[01:45:47] In getting actors to agree to do things with us And getting theaters to agree to less do screenings That we haven't even begun to tap into But I think we've all liked that idea That's probably if we did live shows The way we do it

[01:45:57] I agree with everything you just said Yeah I don't know It's hard I mean look We have jobs Like outside of this show We want to make this show for you guys Part of us for us to not miss an episode Over the last year

[01:46:09] When I started in a TV show And had to go to Australia for press One day if anyone ever wants Right Like the history of blank check The Nolan miniseries That it's good And it is good Arguably is our best miniseries I think it's like

[01:46:23] At least it's most consistent Most listened to And like When you think about What was happening What were you making that And you have no idea What was happening No idea Like you can't even imagine I do so much for you people You don't even know

[01:46:36] He's such an idiot You don't even know Well I do a lot too Okay but I never get a chance To talk on this podcast Fuck You're muffling me at every moment I'm gonna keep on doubling down on this bit I've been silenced on this podcast

[01:46:51] It never reflects my interests Yeah I think we're Okay one last question Yeah One last question We've gotten some like really nice questions From people That are just like You know Like the show Okay but that's not a question Joe Bowen

[01:47:08] Unless it's why do I like the show Joe Bowen Who did our artwork The great Joe Bowen I have no answer to this question But I'll try to think of something What is the last toy you bought Best thing to end on really Yeah Yeah

[01:47:20] What's the last one I bought That's hard because it's some stiff competition I bought a Rex at Disney World When I was at Disney World Like from Toy Story Yeah but it's like a good quality Rex They never made a fully screen accurate Rex It's the right size

[01:47:36] And has the right sort of Material integrity to it It talks It's got the flapping jaw I was very happy with it It was a good purchase Can I So box This almost immersion dye spotlight You picked this as the last question

[01:47:49] There was a line of toys that came out this year That I think is the greatest line of toys ever And it seems to have been abandoned I thought it was going to be complete And they seem to have strangled it to death In the crib

[01:47:59] Still in its infancy Okay For the new Fast and Furious movie Fated the Furious They released a line of toys Called the Fast and Furious Stone Stars That are cars That come with inch tall little figures Of the human characters from the Fast and Furious

[01:48:16] And they have magnets in their feet So you can put them on top of the cars And roll the cars along And it's like they're hanging out on the top of the car But the thing that makes it the fucking best Is if you push the tailpipe

[01:48:25] The hood of the car flips up So it's like Vin Diesel's jumping off the top of a car It's the best And I was like they're going to make the whole fucking cast And they seemingly have stopped We got Dominic Toretta We got Tej We got Agent Hubs

[01:48:39] We had Luke I'm sorry, Owen Shaw Who's the Luke Evans one In his weird little flip car And then the last one they made Fucking Jaman Hounsu from Furious 7 Sure We didn't get Letty Alright That's enough of that Yeah We didn't get Roman

[01:48:59] I said that's enough of that Mia Okay really quick Declan Shaw Someone asked me about my fashion faves Like favorite costumes and stuff We don't have time to get through like my top three So I'm just going to say

[01:49:10] Mad Max Fury Road is the fucking best for costumes It's crazy good I don't like the milk boys But I like the fuzzy lint gang They're cool with the dreads Tom Hardy has a classic motorcycle jacket It's all dusty and shit

[01:49:24] He's got like some fucking leg fucking straps And shit Hell yeah Charlize also straps Goggles And then the head painted kind of black It's really fucking cool Love that movie Ben's reading off of Noce right now No he might be actually Alright can we wrap this up

[01:49:40] I swear to God Wrap it up You sound like whoever costume Charlize there on Exactly He's got the wraps Oh well We should mention the hotline Well I guess we have to add another thing to the garbage plate Right Last thing So we did right

[01:49:57] We did all our garbage plate Rankings That was the beans Avatar land I guess that was the meat Yeah I had to fuck the potatoes were what we just did And black too We recorded audio or whatever It's a great episode The final thing It's a great episode

[01:50:11] Right to the top of Podmas Come on guys it's the end of the year Like we just we're tired And we've also recorded so many episodes Candid month's advance We were like let's record one that comes out Like fucking four days before we release it

[01:50:24] Let's do one that's relevant That's fresh It's so true Fresh app But we have now set up a hotline Obviously our Star Wars is also going to be very fresh Very fresh Let's talk about that Yup I hope We're just like shitty I knew hope That would suck

[01:50:40] It's just like I don't know this kind of sucks We have not had a burger port in a long time For people who started listening this year You might even know what a burger port is Which is when Ben David or I would report on a time

[01:50:51] We'd seen a famous person Eating any type of burger At any point in time Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do But wait I'm out of stories Ben are you out of stories? I mean I told all my best stories

[01:51:05] Yeah I think the last one I told was that Wait how could there be a burger port Because we set up a hotline What's that number Ben? That number is Can you look I don't remember We set up a number And you can call it

[01:51:23] What a fucking idiot I'm an idiot You're not supposed to memorize the burger Yeah yeah 802 8 burger 802 8 burger Look at me blowing out the mic You call that number You leave a voicemail You tell us about any time you have ever seen Anyfamo eat a burger

[01:51:42] Evergreen no statute of limitations What if I saw them eat a salad Get the fuck out of here What if I want to leave a message about something else It will be deleted promptly This phone line is for one thing Bagel reports? No Well that's the bagel chronicle

[01:51:57] There's a beeper you can call if you got a bagel chronicle story People have been calling in And you can call in any time in a report About burger reports only 802 8 burger And we're gonna play a burger report From one of our old good friends Our Blankereken

[01:52:13] I Laugh Alone We've invoked before who had a question on this episode A great supporter of the podcast Hope you're doing well And thank you so much for sharing this burger report with us Hello everybody this is Griffin Neiman Thanks for calling the burger report hotline

[01:52:27] Please leave a message with your FAMO Type of burger and location And we will try to put it on the podcast if we can Yeah I have a burger report out here from Puerto Rico In the middle of my Laugh Alone About 8 years ago

[01:52:41] My best friend's uncle is Famous character actor Luis Guzma So he went to a basketball game That me and my best friend played And after the game I was at a Burger King And I saw him eating a Whopper So that's my burger report Luis Guzma

[01:52:59] Saw a movie such as Boogie Nights And Traffic Eating a Whopper at Burger King Thanks for all the love We love you man that was the best Let me say that's a perfect burger report If you want to template for what kind of voicemail to leave

[01:53:13] Good specifics, good context I love they told us it was a Whopper The more you remember about the burger the better I was gonna say because the Whopper is Maybe the best fast food burger I mean you got Wendy's They make a good fast food burger

[01:53:27] And now you've got like your Shake Shack And your 5-Past I liked the context of the friend's uncle It was in Puerto Rico you remember the burger And it was nice and concise And also shouted out his best performance in traffic Yes

[01:53:41] Do you think that's his best? I think it might be his best performance I mean he's such a pro He's given so many amazing performances Waiting He's weirdly great in school for scoundrels I've never seen that movie He's really good in that

[01:53:55] Is that the one I'm thinking of? Yeah I think it's that one Anyway, great burger report Thank you so much for that Hope you're doing well And please call that number And as always remember to rate review Subscribe Thanks to Joe Bonapet rounds for artwork

[01:54:11] Lame on coming for a theme song And for Guto for our social media Go to theblankies.red.com And that's it Next week It's here, it's that yearly tradition It's that time I can't believe it's here I hear those sleigh bells jingling Ring-ring tingling too

[01:54:31] Gonna see the last Jedi with an in David and you I'm seeing it 3 times in a week baby He's already got 3 screenings booked up And Garrity for the merchandise Followed on that one The Porgs That's how it's gonna be Hey on the record I think that big dude

[01:54:49] Snoke? Snoke? He's not gonna be big, he's actually really small Projection The rumor I've heard is that he's big but not huge Fuck that That he's like 8 foot 5 Snoke? He's like big but he's not like We're done We've gone for 2 hours at least And as always

[01:55:11] We haven't even inserted your friend Dun-dun-dun-dun It's 5 minutes I'll catch the time And as always Pow I shit my pants Okay great It's because of the mug