I Love You to Death

[00:00:00] When someone shoot you in the head and make it your podcast. accent on top of that, you cannot stop hearing the pizza box guy caricature voice fighting against his sort of like mid-Atlantic play to the back of the house. I would agree. Yes, he wants to be Shakespearean, but also pizza man. He looks like he's having fun. He looks like something all right. The man is no question having fun.

[00:01:40] He's having a blast.

[00:01:41] He's having a blast.

[00:01:42] He's having a good time.

[00:01:43] I think everyone in this movie is kind of having fun.

[00:01:45] Yeah. The voice of reason yes, I don't think no I don't know retired to three different titles over the course of different No, she isn't Mr. Ben Kenobi Ben night Shyamalan come on Kylo band Kylo band Ben to eat Eley bends with a dollar sign. There's no way you're gonna be able to get to the

[00:03:01] No, no

[00:03:04] I'm not gonna get order right, but I'm just gonna throw them out there Ben 19 the fennel maker

[00:04:03] and was like, I didn't vape. And they were like, we have the footage. Not only did you vape, but we, we, there's so much other stuff. You were rubbing dicks and he was grabbing

[00:04:07] titties. What are you talking about? The vaping is now immaterial. Okay. Anyway, do you have

[00:04:13] any more war has, um, Christopher Nolan, uh, Benas. So meccas would be I Don't know. I don't even remember us picking this really

[00:05:40] Give me give me the movie back to the future part three

[00:06:45] Yeah, that was a great up and skate from new Hawes. Yeah, funny Bronco Hausley. That's actually that's actually an incredible champion.

[00:06:46] The great and powerful. Yeah, for Ramey. That was obvious. All that Hawes for Sposse. Yeah.

[00:06:53] Two Z's Hawes 9000 for Kubrick. Bone sound daddy for a cell like funny. Yeah. To Ben

[00:07:01] spotting for Boyle. I bet we could bet we about movies and directors. Wow. I never do this. And I've heard it so many times. You know, people think it's easy. Yeah. They think everyone thinks they could do it themselves if they were given the chance. All right. Mr. Benjans. Mr. Benjans.

[00:08:20] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:21] For Mr. Benjans.

[00:08:22] That's good.

[00:08:23] Great.

[00:08:24] We're all fucking caught up.

[00:08:25] Well, we have to do Fincher, but okay.

[00:08:26] I'd seven.

[00:08:27] Oh, seven.

[00:08:28] There we go. long time trying to figure out what to put in here and I think we should we should get into a little bit of the backstory there was a little bit of a power struggle here in deciding the Ben's choice is that fair to say? That's fair to say. Suppose so. Ben in confidence. Ben was throwing out a lot of ideas. I have many ideas. But also in confidence Ben throughout to you and to I.

[00:09:43] I would say not in confidence but okay go just finish your sentence and then all.

[00:09:46] No it wasn't confessional. But then like a month later Ben says to me, you know what I also think could make a good Ben's choice? Mrs. Harris goes to Paris. That's true. And I'm like, I want to fucking give that movie full blank check shine. Because these are both films that I now, I like these movies. And watch, not regularly,

[00:11:00] because I'm not like someone who, you know,

[00:11:02] I've revisited both of them a couple of times.

[00:11:06] Both of these movies need sequels.

[00:11:08] They do.

[00:11:09] And could use our support. because you were kind of doing the like, what do you guys think? Like this, that, like what should we do? You know, you were you were you thrown into the group. And I said, that's not the spirit of this. That's not the spirit. You choose. And you sit, you know, so I said this, I said, like Ben's choice. Sit down. And you were like, all right, well, let me think. And this is often the state of the Ben's choice, is he pitches a couple of movies that feel like safe picks.

[00:12:21] I like The Simpsons movie. Yeah.

[00:12:23] I like I like don't look back. Right.

[00:12:26] Which is would be sense. Yeah. It does make sense because it's, it's, it checks all the boxes when you compare it to past, uh, Ben's choices and that it's. Pretty much. Yeah. Because it was on TV? It was on Comedy Central. Yeah, so right. A few people since I've learned that you wanted to do this

[00:15:00] have said, I said, we're doing an episode

[00:15:02] I love you to death.

[00:15:03] They've all been like, oh, I love that movie.

[00:15:04] Hell yeah.

[00:15:05] And I'm like, why do you love that movie?

[00:15:06] Who are these heroes?

[00:15:06] Not angry. even look at the movie. Oh, I love you to death. My joke to you at the moment you picked this movie was I just imagined the nineties basic cable meeting where they're like, all right, you know, who wants it? Jurassic park bids like crazy. Right. And then like it's hour eight and they're like, I love you to death and Comedy Central's like, I'll give

[00:16:22] you 10 bucks. And they're like, yup, that. So they had to. And they had a, you know, this little screened in porch where they did most of their watching. I mean, Florida though, it's hot. Hot. Yeah.

[00:17:40] A hot TV, hot to the touch.

[00:17:41] Yeah, exactly.

[00:17:42] Right.

[00:17:43] That TV, 90's TV, that thing's going, it's warm.

[00:17:45] Black remote control must have burned your fingers.

[00:17:47] You tried to death. Sounds really cool. You know, I didn't realize that it was that easy to smash a toilet. Well, they made a porcelain. Yeah. And I think it was an old toilet. Right. It was probably like a- But if you sat hard enough, could you smash with your ass?

[00:19:02] Well, I mean, this is a tangent.

[00:19:03] I don't- I mean, that-

[00:19:05] Ben, do you want to talk about the movie at all? There was a point during the pandemic where I was really, you know, I was putting my toilet to work. Oh, God. And I started noticing, like, creaking sounds. Like, I never broke it, but it was like, I haven't gained weight. I've, in fact, lost weight in lockdown. I clearly am just shitting too hard. Wow. That this is starting to put strain on the thing.

[00:20:21] The point is.

[00:20:21] The point is.

[00:20:23] There are certain types of movies.

[00:20:25] I had this phenomenon as a child,

[00:20:26] and I don't know if you 100%. I was like, well, I know who Tracy Ollman is because I know that The Simpsons started on her show.

[00:21:41] Yes.

[00:21:42] So I knew that much.

[00:21:44] Right.

[00:21:45] And I just assumed that this was just like a fun kind of 1990. But, you know, they was feeding me peanut butter and jelly or whatever the hell. This didn't look like it cost a lot. No, but it's got a big cast. And it's like Owen Roy's been shot at and the coats cut it. Cause it's made by a, at that time still a major director. We have a lot of careers to talk about in this episode. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, but here's the thing, like, cause we should just get into business

[00:23:03] at hand, but just to sort of wrap up on our preface. I mean. I think I hadn't really revisited it since the summer of like, I love you to death. Yeah. And they don't make, they don't make comedies like this anymore. They just really don't. They straight up don't make movies like that. It's like so broad. It's a good question. It's so, there's like something about it. It's like, it's so fucking

[00:24:22] simple. I just, I just, this movie is simple to imitate them once. It didn't really work. We've talked about DeVito is one of the only guys who was able to make these movies work with a mainstream public,

[00:25:41] but then even by death's a smoochie,

[00:25:42] he got the full fuck you, how dare you treatment,

[00:25:45] and was scared off of making movies.

[00:25:46] Like this movie is like bullshit.

[00:25:48] And I say wanna have fun. And then they're building that vehicle for fun around like incredibly dark shit. And then being surprised that people don't go for it other than Ben rediscovering it. This is not a perfect comparison, but Cocaine Bear.

[00:27:02] Obviously that was more of like an action horror comedy. This is hard to do. I also think that movie is trying to shock the audience into like, I can't believe they put this in a movie. Whereas movies like Lucky Numbers, Very Bad Things, Love You to Death, whatever scale of bad taste they're playing in, they're also like, we believe we can frame these situations in a way that is guilt-free comedy, right?

[00:28:21] Where you're like, the privacy of the situation just leads to laughs.

[00:28:24] We're not trying to challenge you.

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[00:32:01] about Larry Kasten's career. I don't know very much.

[00:32:03] So his first produced screenplay

[00:32:05] is The Empire Strikes Back.

[00:32:06] That is correct?

[00:32:07] Oh.

[00:32:08] Has you heard of it?

[00:32:10] He is a guy who's like writing scripts.

[00:32:12] That's episode, I want to say four?

[00:32:16] Five.

[00:32:17] Five.

[00:32:17] Five.

[00:32:18] He is a guy who is like a hot screenwriter

[00:32:21] who hasn't gotten a project made yet, right?

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:24] And Lucas is like, I'm aware that I need to step back.

[00:32:27] Let other people direct these Star Wars movies. And he nails both of them. Two scripts that are just the first one. Holy shit. Yeah. He's like, we have this content. I mean, obviously that movie is also written by Philip Kaufman, right? But in both cases, because Empire Strikes Back starts out as the couple and forgetting their name. The brackets. Lee Brackett is obviously the other credit writer. In both cases, it was like ideas that were developed

[00:33:41] by Spielberg and Lucas.

[00:33:42] They hire people to write them.

[00:33:43] They're like, these scripts aren't working.

[00:33:45] Here's this guy.

[00:33:46] Yeah, they need help.

[00:33:47] Right.

[00:33:47] He's got this. Yeah, this is a hachi. This is a no such It is a hot movie But even this is a pivot of like the the Raiders Empire guy beyond that it's him being like hey

[00:35:01] I want to do like a steamy neo noir. That's essentially I mean it's a remake of double identity

[00:36:02] keep it cold, freezing. The coaxium?

[00:36:03] Yeah.

[00:36:04] Or maybe do you think he was like lukewarm?

[00:36:06] We should make it fair, he's also the father of coaxium.

[00:36:09] His baby.

[00:36:10] But he got the idea because in 1983 when he wrote

[00:36:13] The Return of the Jedi he also wrote and directed

[00:36:15] a film called The Big Chill.

[00:36:16] Oh, right.

[00:36:17] He'd written body heat first and he was getting a little sweaty.

[00:36:20] Can someone turn on a fan in here?

[00:36:22] Still not working.

[00:36:23] I guess I have to write The Big Chill.

[00:36:24] I want to chill out.

[00:36:25] Have you seen The Big Chill? to see this scene. Oh, interesting. Because the big chill, I believe, ended with this super long scene where you finally see Costner. Sure. Like the, it's sort of like the end of the Godfather, part two or whatever, it's like, and now we'll finally let you see the guy that you've all been talking about. Or the end of both nights. Right. Where you finally see his death. And Kasdan was like, I love to see Costner's good nip, but like, it's completely fucking deflates the movie.

[00:37:42] And so they just, and that movie actually

[00:37:43] has a weirdly abrupt ending.

[00:37:45] Because they didn't even put it on like the criteria.

[00:37:46] They never let it out. Yeah, they did all right. But no, instead he does big heat and big chill and it's like, okay, this guy is the finger on the pulse of eighties yuppies who are, you know, who we care about right now. And he wants to make like adult character dialogue driven dramaties and then like go to sort of dead genres like the noir, the western.

[00:39:00] Right, so right next he's like, I wanna make a western.

[00:39:03] He makes Silverado, it stars Kevin Kline

[00:39:06] and Kevin Costner.

[00:39:08] Danny Glover. He starts out with three of the biggest blockbusters. The turn of the decade coming, right. Yeah, exactly. Three big blockbusters, two big hits. Yeah. Two interesting movies. Two interesting movies, one of which won an Oscar. Right? Doing OK. Yeah. He's forever, in my opinion, he will forever be considered a screenwriter first. Yes. But he's a decent director.

[00:40:21] He is.

[00:40:22] And he's in that, I mean, Levinson's very much a parallel

[00:40:25] to him at this time.

[00:40:26] You know?

[00:40:27] OK. arrested for trying to kill her husband. A hit gone wrong. Yeah. Right. Right. I mean, the baseline of the true story is Ben, you sent us the real news clipping yesterday. Yeah. Because recently there was some article about how 57 years later they're still together. They're still together. They have a dirt. They figured it out. This movie was right.

[00:41:42] This movie was right.

[00:41:43] The ending of this movie is correct.

[00:41:44] He loved her to death. But yeah, he Runner. They keep on like doing these things to him and he's surviving all of them. Yeah. A hundred percent. And just, you know, yeah, just picture someone in the room being like, and the craziest part of all, it's a real story. And they're like passing around the newspaper and like,

[00:43:00] you know.

[00:43:01] And he lived so it's not dark.

[00:43:03] They ended up together.

[00:43:04] You have this sort of like uplift.

[00:43:07] It's a weird story with Yeah, yeah, he is. His hair too, they must have dyed his chest hair. And it's not like he's a fair-haired man to begin with. No, but he is like... And he's- Mine is a really Midwestern wasp. I think he actually, one of his parents is Catholic

[00:44:21] or whatever and his dad is Jewish,

[00:44:22] but he reads waspy.

[00:44:25] And maybe it's that later in life,

[00:44:26] he really got cast as a lot of stuffy guys. Performance it's it is an incredible kind of infamously one of the only like pure comedic performances to win an Oscar Yep in what was sort of a surprise win, but it was like this thing is just so virtuosic And the guy is just such like different clans like one of those actors where I'm like you're a craftsman He's you like understand how to act in such like detail. That is true

[00:45:42] Yes, that is true, but he's also unbelievably hot in that movie. Yeah, like he, as they call it. Yes, he was he was a Juilliard guy. He was a total hottie. And he's he's playing an Italian guy in this movie. And so I'm just googling here for Italian-American War of the 90s, not seeing one. Why did the Republic of Italy not declare war on our sovereign nation after seeing

[00:47:02] this after this movie?

[00:47:06] Like what what what international court would stop them? in a way that is astonishing. And it's such a fascinating time capsule of where all of those people's different careers are at that time. Not just that, it's like River and Keanu are gonna do my own private eye to work together the next year. William Hurt, why the hell is he in this? Well, it's a Larry Kazdin movie. Larry Kazdin made this movie? Yeah, Larry Kazdin made this movie. Trace someone Polish. Oh, descent.

[00:48:21] Joan Plowright, of course,

[00:48:22] also had another name at that point.

[00:48:24] You guys know what it was?

[00:48:25] What?

[00:48:26] The Lady Olivier, because of course she is a year before this movie. She probably made it in tribute to him. He never got to see the real tragedy. The real tragedy never got to it. He's like sitting in his arm chairs like, okay, Larry, let me, uh, let me throw on a comedy center for you. Which number is it again? Cause she does enchanted April the year after this, which she gets an Oscar nomination,

[00:49:40] which she's probably like was seen as I a dial in his brain and synced up with him or whatever. Like that it magically just, he's just like. They're like in the drift together. They're like piloting a Jaeger together. They are so good. They are.

[00:51:00] I was watching this, the first 15 minutes,

[00:51:02] I'm like, obviously this fits into the Haslian cannon,

[00:51:04] right?

[00:51:05] I get it.

[00:51:06] Horny dumb pizza man. And I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm kind of losing the total Hasley thread on it. And then when hurt and Reeves enter, I'm like, passed into law. Right, right, right. This break out the hammer and chisel. You can put this into marble. Ben, I'm assuming as a young boy, how old are you?

[00:52:22] Where are you in that?

[00:52:24] That that's weltering the Florida summer.

[00:52:26] I've got to be seven or eight.

[00:52:28] Perfect. Bill and Ted parenthood vein, as you said. Yeah, it's 1990. Like, his first movie is what, like, River Zedd or Young Blood or whatever. Which is like, 86, right? Like, he's only been making movies for a couple years. Right. Bill and Ted. But he's already done Bill and Ted. Sat on the shelf for a while, but comes out in 89. Is that right? 89. Yeah. Parenthood is what, 87?

[00:53:41] Is that right?

[00:53:42] I can't remember.

[00:53:42] I don't know.

[00:53:43] Is Bill and Ted not the same year as Bill and Ted, I think?

[00:53:45] It might be.

[00:53:46] You're right, 89.

[00:53:47] Yeah. And he's always playing these kind of refined guys, you know? Right. But, yeah, he probably was just like, let me add it, right?

[00:55:03] Let me play.

[00:55:04] Like, I'll have fun.

[00:55:05] He grew his hair out, and he's really stoned. Right. Yeah. But yeah, no opening Kevin Klein, spinning the pizza, hitting on every woman, Devo, River Phoenix, a performance I would say

[00:56:21] that feels like he is almost unaware

[00:56:22] that he is in a comedy.

[00:56:24] He's playing like full sort of River Phoenix,

[00:56:26] earnest dramatic intensity. moment. Yeah. Oh, he's definitely better than showing. I mean, I like show. It's a similar position where it's like he's a heartthrob. He's taken seriously as an actor. He already has an Oscar nomination under his belt by the age of like 20. And he's taking on a lot of roles where it's like him playing junior to a major leading man of the moment in that

[00:57:42] way that where it feels like studios used to Everybody loves coming here. He's a great dad. Tacoma. Right. Again, this is set in Tacoma. He loves delivering the pizzas himself

[00:59:00] and also doing pro bono handyman work.

[00:59:03] Well, he owns the building, so he's a landlord.

[00:59:05] Right, but he does, which is the name of Phoenix's character, is like getting really angry on behalf of Tracy Ullman that she won't wake up and acknowledge it. And as I said, in this first 10 minutes, you see, uh, Klein on some side, one side or the

[01:00:20] other of Coitus with three or four different women.

[01:00:22] You see his tush too.

[01:00:23] You see his tush.

[01:00:24] And I mean, damn, a real snack.

[01:00:27] But Corner? given many immaculate performances. This is one where if I were Larry Kasdan, I would maybe have said, hey, let's maybe swing more Italian American than fresh off the boat. Yes. Maybe have like 5% You should hit harder.

[01:01:40] Yes, you should have gone 150% harder.

[01:01:42] No, you know what I'm saying?

[01:01:43] That like, this maybe works if you have like 10%

[01:01:46] of the residual accent.

[01:02:44] Filmmaker who you and I are both big fans. I am a huge fan of her Kazu koriya Yes, the Japanese filmmaker who has been working a fair clip recently. Yeah, I would say he makes a movie every couple years

[01:02:51] Yeah, but he's made movies the last four years in a row. No

[01:02:57] Yeah, bro goes lies with the truth was like 2019

[01:03:01] But you know nonetheless he works a lot. Yeah, you won want to reveal the plot points, but it is a very heartbreaking mesmerizing tale about family and bullying and the way kids interact with each other all of stuff that create is very good at dramatizing You may know him as we say, you know broker shoplifters. You got music by Rishi the recently

[01:04:22] Departed from our mortal coil Rishi Sakamoto

[01:05:22] Plowwreck does all the maintenance in the building.

[01:05:26] He works like I think she says he works seven days a week, 14 hours a day.

[01:05:31] Yeah. And then yet somehow still finds time to go out and cruise.

[01:05:34] Well, part of him working that hard is him making quote unquote house calls.

[01:05:37] You have to remember or of course deliveries.

[01:05:42] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but he, uh, yeah, he,

[01:05:48] I don't really know how else to, to sort of what to the restaurant and he puts his son's finger in the glass and he's like, oh, batter or whatever.

[01:07:02] But then he pours, I could have a salt or sugar on it as well.

[01:07:06] Salt or sugar.

[01:07:07] And then puts it in his mouth. papers does sound pretty good. Yeah. I mean, what happened to me? I gotta find those papers. Where'd they go? I don't think this is a well-directed movie. I'm sorry. This is what I'm saying. As much as I think he's directed movies well. And I think... And he's directed films with

[01:08:20] like kind of sour tones before, but his comedies are also him doing his crash. It's like this chill band. I'm tackling race in America. All these people coincide. During the LA riots. They cross over. Have never seen some curse to me. Interesting. It's definitely a little cursed. It's interesting. He makes Wyatt Earp, which is this like long Tony Biopic. And then like, there's just like the fucking Pizza Hut version of it over with tombstone.

[01:09:41] That eats his lunch.

[01:09:42] Just trashes it.

[01:09:44] Right.

[01:09:45] Just drowns it in the garbage.

[01:09:45] This is great embarrassment.

[01:09:46] Exactly.

[01:09:48] He makes French kiss. Back with client again, but nobody defends that no an absolute piece of dog shit the movie I've said before Made me give up on my one-week dream of being a film critic for a second of them I was assigned that movie and I was like I can't I can't so this is kind of the beginning of him losing his edge Yeah, because even if you defend some of the movies I just spoke up for none of them were really hits

[01:11:01] No, he remains a major director he basically banished from directing at a certain point? You know, yes. Dreamcatcher in particular is the moment where they're like, you have to sit in the bench for a while. You're not in movie jail, but you're on the bench. He went to movie probation at the very least. He spent a night in the movie drunk tank at least.

[01:12:21] Oh, more than a night.

[01:12:23] But yeah, he's not gone and resemble what made it to the screen. And they just be like, you got the guy who's the best version of doing this. And even though it's been some time, he's still putting in pretty good work in this arena when it's for hire.

[01:13:41] Anyway, he made a movie called I Love You to Death

[01:13:43] that's about the world's horniest pizza man. I feel like this is her first movie post, the Tracy Ullman show, the original Tracy Ullman show, which was on Fox in the 80s. Which is what Simpsons comes out of. Correct. Have you heard of the Simpsons? I have. Okay, so that was a sketch on the Tracy, nobody knows this. Nobody knows. Homer had a different voice, you know,

[01:15:00] all very interesting.

[01:15:01] But you know, like you looked more lumpy.

[01:15:03] Everyone looked pretty lumpy in that one.

[01:15:05] Julie Kavner and Dan Castellaneta were part She was sort of doing like in the 80s sort of retro style girl group 50s 60s type stuff. Yeah. And then yeah, then she's like part of a couple sketch shows and then she's finally getting her own stuff and her own specials. And that's when she sort of catches the attention of Hollywood and they're like, we got to bring this person over. And she they develop a sitcom for her that like isn't working.

[01:16:20] Her producers or rather her husbands are producing partner and she's like, I'm caught in this bad like NBC sitcom on, but like the Simpsons shorts are not riotously funny. I'm not sure. But you also have a weird energy to them. That's kind of cool. Yes. Yeah. Kind of cool that they turned into what they turned into. I agree with you, but also you read about when the show was airing and people were like, these shorts are fucking good. Right.

[01:17:40] Like there was an excitement around them.

[01:17:41] The rest of the shows are not maintaining.

[01:17:43] Right.

[01:17:44] There was a reason it spun off.

[01:17:45] Yeah.

[01:17:46] The show was like winning Emmys, but not getting huge ratings.

[01:17:48] Yeah. A Peter Nerman production. Which I've never seen. It's a good movie. Bullets Over Broadway, she did a couple of Woody Allen movies. Small Time Crux is the one she's really good at. She's really funny in that. Freda Porter, I've never seen. No, it's weird that neither of us have seen that.

[01:19:01] Yeah, I should see it.

[01:19:03] Yeah, she was just like. And then it's kind of like she just stops.

[01:19:05] I feel like after the mid 90. She just had like complete autonomy. Yes. Tracy takes on. Yeah. It's weird to watch it now. Like Tracy takes on. There are a lot of characters people would not be excited to see her play today.

[01:20:21] Absolutely.

[01:20:21] Is a way to put it.

[01:20:22] Absolutely.

[01:20:23] But just like the filmmaking of it, I guess you'll say.

[01:20:27] Yeah. It's just like it's something that sketch comedy always kind of feels like it fluctuates where it's like there's something new and inventive and it sort of falls out of favor. But it was just like, it's really interesting to see this kind of like straight, just character based comedy. Yes. Now her movie career was weird because I think people it that she's like, I got to kill him. But then everyone else around her are the ones who are like, let's do it. And she's like kind of burst out about it. I've felt like I'm guessing that unfortunately rings true, right? As like this, there's this one line that sort of justifies the, the, the murder plot. And because again, it is

[01:23:02] like, it feels almost extreme or jarring a little bit where you're thinking of is the grandma goes and talks to some... Oh, yes. I'm sorry. The first hitman she hires. Right. Right. It's some like, I don't know, some friend of hers grandson... Yes....who decides to do a favor... He's the one with the mask. Yeah, who wears the Abraham Lincoln mask and tries to... Fucks the bat.

[01:24:20] ...tries to hit him with a bat.

[01:24:22] Yeah, tries to murder him via bat.

[01:24:24] Yeah. Which is, you know, cheaper than a gun.

[01:24:26] Yeah.

[01:24:27] Which is what they say.

[01:24:28] But harder. They're wild. These guys have a line for others know Italian character Can Blanca be Italian Can Blanca make the pizza might be good Would be good The chest hair imagine Street Fighter cast only with the cast in all-stars. Yeah with like so yeah, you have hurt as guile

[01:25:43] Yeah hurt as guile right we're gonna run into a problem by the way just like so quickly with this Joey is grant the, the mom. She tries to, she's very handy. Yes. She can, she can fix everything in the building. She shows at one point her grandson had a solder. Yes. She tries to explode the car. I don't exactly know how she has a hole. She's like, I put the fuse in the bar, I think so, but they make they make this giant pot of sleepy spaghetti To try to sleep from the death You're not wrong. This is this movie. I will say a lot of fun to talk about at this point

[01:28:23] The movie is like you said like the first hour We're kind of we're You'll do anything for her. He's like, of course. And they're like, come over here right now. Yeah. Yes. Comes over, they hand him a gun. Finish the job. They have the gun. Yeah, they have the gun. Anyone at this point, Joan Plowright should probably

[01:29:41] just shoot him in the head, but she doesn't want to.

[01:29:43] I feel like she's probably like, got a good shot.

[01:29:47] Yeah, she's not dead. So right like so right the first shot is botched by River. Yes, he then brings in Keanu and right he goes to a bar. They hang wearing a

[01:31:02] Fu man shoe. I mean we just have to say it

[01:32:03] A very handsome young 25 year old Keanu Reeves. With a fucking nose ring.

[01:32:04] He's got a nose ring.

[01:32:05] And like a-

[01:32:06] He's got like a flock of seagulls, X2 haircut.

[01:32:09] Well it's even more than that.

[01:32:10] It's like a failed buzz cut.

[01:32:12] Yeah.

[01:32:13] There's actually kind of red hair.

[01:32:14] There's a slice of like Miss Razor ring.

[01:32:16] I think it's more that he's maybe been to like a mental hospital or something.

[01:32:20] Oh that's also very popular.

[01:32:21] Right, his hair has been growing in weird like directions.

[01:32:24] Yes.

[01:32:25] Like I think he was getting electric shock therapy.

[01:32:27] Cause he's got like a clear patch that was shaved. 15 years older than Keanu, so that's like they're an odd, you know gap they can't be siblings They can't be parents on yeah, don't you want to see a whole movie about these guys? It's not even one of those things like no no no like small dose right there They're effective because there's not that much of them. No no no they would be great together for a whole move

[01:33:44] I could watch as much as they have if this movie had been inexplicably a giant hit one He pays $200 for murder and he's like the guy's basically got one foot in the door already. Right, right. I don't take anything. I already shot him. You're just finishing the job. Right. And then they instead pay him only $200 because they did shoot him but didn't kill him. Yes. They're too cowardly or our county was too cowardly to look hurt, shoots him in the chest,

[01:35:01] but misses his horse.

[01:35:02] Well, of course we get the fun gag, which is they're trying to remember where your heart

[01:35:08] is. Yeah. Either that, or I guess he's just inhaling pizza dough and it's making like a force field. It's both. Uh, right. But you're just kind of like, let me just like sit with these weird characters and those two are very funny. Yeah. And Oven is compelling. And obviously she can be very

[01:36:25] funny. She's very upset when, but she thinks that like, can we stop? But they're in too deep. God is intervening. Like, you know, basically telling us not to do it. Once they've given him all the sleeping pills, she's in too deep. That's, I think their other thought is like, if he wakes up, he will see what we tried to do to him. Yeah. And Plowright is just so bullheaded about like, he must die.

[01:37:40] Yeah.

[01:37:40] She keeps on like talking Omen out of her doubts.

[01:37:44] For sure.

[01:37:45] Right.

[01:37:46] A moment I wanted to shout out too Maybe that's probably what I'm gonna do as well. All right. What is it an aura? Digital picture frame explain. It's the phone call of gifts. Okay. What but what is an aura? That's an amazing way to stay in touch David. Okay. Yeah, let's say you got a family member who lives far away from you My mom does that's true. Wait, when you when you miss them

[01:39:00] You know people talk about using pictures and videos to stay in touch

[01:40:03] That's A-U-R-A, frames.com with the promo code check in terms of condition supply.

[01:40:07] Can we, I want to say on mic,

[01:40:08] and we'll see how this resolves itself,

[01:40:11] but the building our office is in,

[01:40:13] there's like an inner building network

[01:40:16] where people can like post updates about like,

[01:40:19] oh, maintenance is happening here or whatever.

[01:40:21] But also people post if they're like,

[01:40:23] have a credenza to get rid of, only asking for $100.

[01:40:28] And we got an email this morning, energy for it. I didn't think William Hurt had the energy and then I fucking rented I Love You to Death on iTunes. You just rented it and you'd buy it? No, I bought it. Yeah. Thirteen bucks. Really? Yeah, why not? I never, yes, I never would have guessed that Hurt had this performance in him and there are like later career, like he's obviously very funny in history of violence. Well, yes, he is. But that's like- But that's the context of what he actor role. He's available. Yeah. And not only that, he gets the surprise Oscar nomination and like does not build on it in any meaningful way. No, I mean, he kept making movies. He kept making movies, but he did not have like a true late period resurgence in the way that role maybe felt like it could be a reinvention. Because he's paying me out supposedly. He's on five minutes of history of violence, Ben.

[01:43:01] Have you seen a history of violence?

[01:43:03] I don't think I have.

[01:43:04] I think you would like that movie.

[01:43:06] You would love that movie.

[01:43:07] It's a fireplace video. That's all I'll say. I did. I hear he has a new podcast on the gas network. I don't even know what that is. I don't want to know. Okay. So anyway, we should, he wakes up. Yeah. He's been shot multiple times. He's fully made up like a zombie now. Like they've given him like blue skin and like rings around his

[01:44:20] eyes and like multiple, like he's been shot. He's been shot. He's bleeding. Right. And

[01:44:25] he's like through him. My head hurts my stomach hurts. Miriam Margolies shows up. Again, no, no Italians are allowed, but Miriam Margolies can show up as his mom. Yes. Uh, who's one parenting method is slapping him across the face. And beating the shit out of him. Yes. And she correctly is like, what's the matter with you? You know, you disrespected your wife. I don't think

[01:45:40] she says it like that. I think she does. Very even. other thing that's why I can't get working it's like Victoria it's 20

[01:47:01] Victoria who are we getting here oh boy but. And like, are you sure she's my wife? But he's that was, that's his argument.'s like. Yeah, that should be funny again. I mean, I guess he did do- He did The Bill and Ted, he's equal, which was good and he's good in it. So he's definitely got it in him. And he was really good in fucking, always maybe. He's really good in that. Playing a version of himself, but really funny in it.

[01:49:40] He's obviously-

[01:49:41] Have you seen that movie, Ben?

[01:49:42] No.

[01:49:43] Ali Wong, Randall Park, rom-com,

[01:49:44] and they were like best friends and he realizes like,

[01:49:47] I think I've actually always been in love with her. DC Superpets as Batman. Oh, sure. Not a very large role. He is live action, but the only good part of the third SpongeBob movie, which otherwise is dog shit. Sure. But yeah, more live action comedy, please. I feel like, oh, he was supposed to be in the fucking second Aziz Ansari movie to be permanently shut down.

[01:51:02] He was the star of a comedy that Aziz was directing

[01:51:06] with Keanu and Rogen.

[01:51:08] Oh, finally. That's another good moment when she's sort of checking to see if he died or not with the shot, and he starts talking to her, and then he like tries to fuck her. Yeah, he just like points. And he's like zonked out, he like can't open his eyes. But he's still like, I'm down. This guy's unredeemably horny. Yeah, he is so horny.

[01:52:20] Irredeemably horny, right?

[01:52:21] So, so horny.

[01:52:23] Final thoughts?

[01:52:27] 10 out of 10 normal movie. place. Papa John's. I'm going to Joey's place. I'm going to raise pizza. Right? Yeah. That fucking that'll scare them. Okay. What is the reason for fewer, fewer, fewer these days. The real life couple. There's a picture in this article I sent to you. I'll have Marie

[01:53:40] post. They have in their home a bunch of clippings and movie posters and merchandise. slice. Ben five comedy points. I don't know if he's getting tons of residuals, but some right slice. Anyway, this was fun. Well, we gotta play the box. And we gotta play the box games. Do you guys have any final thoughts? I give it five of these. David is doing the gesture, the thumb to middle finger.

[01:55:04] I made a really good sauce the night I watched this movie.

[01:56:05] puts you at ease. Oh my god wait wait wait wait wait I have my sleep podcast that I've been working on. Maybe I start also offering sauce.

[01:56:11] Sleepy sauce. Sleepy sauce. And you know there's nothing better than when you're

[01:56:16] trying to go to sleep than a warm bowl of pasta. Some ragu. Yeah. 1990 stops and starts comic book. Ben loves it. Ben, do you have any idea what this is? 1990, based on the comic book. This is a post-Batman.

[01:57:40] Yeah.

[01:57:40] But was it a?

[01:57:42] Is he kind of like kind of twisted?

[01:57:45] It's a team.

[01:57:47] Oh, it's a team.

[01:57:48] It's probably on. You can scale the mountain. It's on top of

[01:59:00] Peartown Plus. I taught Peartown Plus, that's right. So if you want to climb the mountain.

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