In the Blink of an Eye with Joey Sims

[00:00:01] Blank Check with All we share and all we experience. Podcasts across time.

[00:00:28] Uh, echoes across time is the tagline. I'm surprised there's no IMDB quote page for what I believe holds the record for the most existent film of 2026. This is a fun recurring game when I tell people- Like movie that least exists that we've covered? No, no, no, no. Oh, you tell people that we're covering Andrew Stanton this year. Anyways, I go, we're actually doing Andrew Stanton now. Oh, that's exciting. So wait, so it's what? So it's Finding Nemo and Wally, right? John Carter. Oh, right. And then what

[00:00:58] since then? And I go, Finding Dory and they go, sure, sure, sure. And in the Blink of an Eye. And they go, what's that? In the what of a what? Right. And I go, he made like a smaller live action sci-fi, we're all connected drama. And they go, what year did that come out? And I go, well, here's a surprise for you. In fact, mere months ago, it premiered at this year's Sundance Film Festival. Heard of it. And went on Hulu February 27th of 2026. Yep.

[00:01:28] I found myself taken aback all over again, literally last night when I looked it up. Yeah. On Wikipedia, I was just like checking something. And at the top, it said 2026. And I, again, had a renewed moment of like, wait, that can be right. That's this year. It's not even a, oh my God, this year's been so long that in the Blink of an Eye was 2026. You know, in some ways, this year's kind of gone past me in the Blink of an Eye.

[00:01:52] Well, actually, is this the most relevant movie of 2026 because of how fast things move? Oh, so fast. Yeah. February. Yeah, yeah. It came out and I rushed to Hulu. And then I was like, well, I'm gonna cover it on the podcast anyway. So I guess I'll let it simmer. Ben and I were supposed to go to the premiere of this film. Oh, yeah. In New York City. Oh, yeah. That did not happen because of the snowstorm.

[00:02:22] Oh, that's right. So it was like it premiered at Sundance. And then there was supposed to be. The cowards go around and close the subways. The proper New York premiere. What? 20 inches of snow. What's the big deal? The following week. Yeah. And it was like six hours before the premiere. We got an email that was like, never mind. Yeah. The Regal Union Square is closing. The event is not happening. Fun fact, on the same day, if we're talking about the same weather event, because there were two. Yeah, that's true.

[00:02:49] But on the same day, I was supposed to attend a marathon play reading session of the five, I think it was five different works of the playwrights, the playwright Tracy Letts. Oh! Well, well, well. Friend of the show. He is sat where you see. He's coming in next week, in fact. Yes. Now that Tracy has become a full-time podcaster, I'm also just kind of like listening to Tracy Letts every day. Yeah, he's on everything.

[00:03:18] I'm beginning to assume he'll like, you know, parachute into the sports podcast I listen to. He'll just kind of be like ever present. He just like lives in the ringer offices now. Reviewing Quiznos on Doughboys. And it's like, you know, fun fact about that guy, Pulitzer Prize winning playwright, in fact, on top of all his great podcasting. He likes to make that joke of like, that stuff, that's my hobby. This is my real job. This is my job. And increasingly, it's starting to feel like he's actually proving that. Wait, Joey. Okay, well, they were going to read five Tracy Letts plays back to back.

[00:03:47] Don't quote me on the five. That just sounds a little. They were going to do like an all-day marathon Tracy Letts session. So wait, Bug, August Ocich County, Seussical the Musical. What were the other two? Now, wait, now I need to look up what they were. Killer Joe, I would assume, is one of the big ones. Superior Donuts? We got Killer Joey on this episode. Well, we do have Killer Joey on this episode. That's a bit of a spoiler. Superior Donuts, which I should bring up to Tracy next time I see him and ask him, when is the next CBS sitcom adaptation of one of his plays going to premiere? It is so funny that happened.

[00:04:17] It would just be so funny if CBS was like, we're going to do a Bug sitcom. It's about a wacky motel. I mean, it's a little like Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, where you're like, that spawned a network sitcom that ran for years? And they're like, look, her name's Alice. She's a waitress. It's a waitress. After that, we kind of did our own thing. Superior Donuts, same thing where you're like, I don't know, a guy owns a donut shop, people show up. Well, I've never seen the play Superior Donuts, but Superior Donuts is, you know, is a lighter work. It's lighter. It's a bit lighter, relatively speaking.

[00:04:45] The play is included in the festival, which was never rescheduled, I'm sad to say. Rude. Was Tracy going to be there or was just... I don't know. Presumably. You could ask him about it. August Osage County. We're going to open with that. Wow. Killer Joe, Linda Vista, The Minutes, and Man from Nebraska. That's funny that it was, yeah, no bug, no donuts. No bug, no donuts. But, you know. But all of his regulars were slated for this day-long thing. Margot Martindale was going to be there.

[00:05:15] Lily Rabe, Thomas Sadowski. Oh, this is a... Matthew Lillard was going to be reading one of them. So it was going to be the second most incredible cultural event in New York City that night. But yes. Behind Ben and I attending the Blink of an Eye premiere. Yeah, interesting that you chose not to go bug nuts. Neither bug nor donuts. I guess bug is like... It's like, wow, you can go see that on Broadway. That was probably because bug was playing on Broadway. And Superior Donuts, you can scale Paramount Plus. You can climb the mountain and watch all... Let's find out. Can you?

[00:05:44] How many episodes of Superior Donuts do we think there were? Of course, the Tracy Lutz sitcom adaptation starring Judd Hirsch and Jermaine Fowler. I'm going to guess 26. I mean, yeah, like two seasons of 13 each is my guess, but I'm not sure. Do you want to... Does anyone else want to put it... Wait, is that a bit or was it actually renewed for a second season? There was two seasons of Superior Donuts. There were two seasons? Are you sure that wasn't 40? I thought it was like two episodes canceled type deal. No. I'm going to guess 40.

[00:06:10] Anyone else want to, you know, price is right, you know, kind of closest without going over? 32. All right. All right. I hear 32. I think it's at 26. You said 40. 33. The answer is 34. Ben gazumped you, Joey. Oh, wow. I'm throwing out a random number. Smart strategy, Ben. Ben gazumped you. So what do I get? You get a Superior Donut to be named later. You'll get one at some point. One Superior Donut. You are now responsible for rescheduling the Tracy Lutz marathon and producing it. Yeah. It was...

[00:06:39] And the blink of an eye premiere. You have to reschedule that. We got to do that. The first season was 13 episodes. The second season was a full network season. 21 episodes. There we go. Yeah. And then they canceled it. And then they canceled it. Let's see. Along with Kevin Can Wait and some of my other favorite shows, Nine J.K.L. Yeah. That was a Mark Fuerstein. What the fuck is this shit? Right. Living Biblically, I think, was... It was based on that book, The Year of Living Biblically.

[00:07:08] And it's sort of like Bible Yes Man, where a guy has to... A lapsed Catholic besides starring J.R. Ferguson from Mad Men. Yes. This is before he basically became a regular on The Conners, of course. It was the best American comedy series. And then they also canceled Dan Koppelman's Me, Myself, and I, which was the Bobby Moynihan sitcom, I think. That was a big splashy show that I think was the first cancellation of the season. It was... Didn't he leave SNL for that show? Yup. Wait, what?

[00:07:38] Moynihan? No. Yes. What? Really? Yes. Maybe not for it, but like it was the first thing he did at least. Yeah. I guess you're right. Dang. 2017. Yeah. No, that was... I mean, talk about a different time. Nine years ago. Bring him back. Bring Bobby back. Why not? He loves SNL. He's got to have him on someday. I would... Bobby? I would love to have Bobby on my turn on. I feel like Bobby's taste... My friend Bobby, who I'm referring to by his first name, is like, you know, we'd want a movie that he's passionate about. Like, you know, he loves the goofy stuff, the silly stuff, the sci-fi stuff.

[00:08:08] He loves the Muppets. We do Hanson and I as we get Bobby. Sure. He's on the... Whatchamacallit? He's on the Daniel Radcliffe Tracy Morgan show. I know. I need to watch that. He's constantly on a TV show. Oh, I know Bobby's busy. It's just that Bobby loved SNL so much. Bobby booked and busy. Bobby... And he's Hoppers. He's the mayor. He's King George. He's the king of the box office this year. Did you see Hoppers? No, I didn't see Hoppers. Why not? You'll like King George. You know, I haven't been inside like a movie theater in a few months. Why not? I don't know. I've had a lot going on.

[00:08:37] I guess so. You gotta see some movies. You haven't been inside a movie theater in a few months, so you saw Michael early. You went to several test screenings and gave them notes? Wait. So you haven't seen Hoppers? I was a consultant on Michael. What about that? There's Hoppers. That's the Adam Scott nonsense. It's all nonsense. It's Hoppers. Which, of course, is a synonym for nonsense. For nonsense, yes. You haven't seen... Wait, come on. Wait a second. Now I'm going to get... I'm going to get righteously mad at you. This is Blank Check. The Goat. You don't know The Goat?

[00:09:06] You haven't seen The Goat hit the court from Goal Ball? Or Who is Sylvia? What are you talking about? Oh, Goat. Yeah, it was an animated... That shows you how your brain works. It was an animated adaptation of Edward Albee's The Goater Who is Sylvia, my daughter's favorite movie of the year. Yeah, you didn't see... What else we got? Did you see Nirvana? The band that showed the movie? Interesting. Oh, yeah. I saw that. I saw that way to pronounce that. That's the whole joke of Nirvana, isn't it? It had an amazing time of that. Well, it's spelled like that because that's how Canadians say Nirvana.

[00:09:37] Sure. And that's why it has the double N. Nirvana. I feel like you're pronouncing it really hard. Nirvana. Simply. I'm simply going with their band. It was interesting. Yeah, so I saw that. Was that my last one? Oh, my God. Did you see The Bone Temple? Yeah. No, yeah. I saw The Bone Temple. Come on. I mean, for The Bone Temple. So January and February, you were getting shit done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you fell off. Undertone? Scary podcast. Late at night. I was actually intrigued by Undertone, by the first wave of reactions to Undertone,

[00:10:06] where people were like, scariest movie ever. Right. And then there came a second wave. Yeah, it's so interesting how that happens with independent horror films, that the first reviews from user I've been paid money on Twitter is like, The Exorcist is a fucking baby compared to this. I'm dead. I'm dead. Here's my death certificate. It killed me. Screen. Dead in the theater. At screen until you shock underscore XXXX. And then Undertone, which is a movie I did not like hate, but I found a lot of like,

[00:10:36] what was that? A lady in a, did I hear something? David is looking behind him in a nice direction. It also made like $3 million domestic on like a $1 million budget. I don't think it got that far, but it did. I'm sure it made people money. Like, let's see, where did it get to? It's one of those. 19 domestic. It's one of those movies where I was like, that didn't pan out. And then you see the return on investment. And you're like, A24 made a ton of money. The budget was probably like 80 cents on that thing. It said at a fucking table.

[00:11:06] Well, they had to work overnights. Yeah, right. They had to film it at 3 a.m. when she is, of course, logically recording a podcast. There is some, there's some shoe leather about like, oh, he's in a different time zone. That's how they explain that away. Did you see half a million dollars? So it made 40 times. Nice work if you can get it. It's budget. Yeah. Super Mario Galaxy. Did you? My daughter's other favorite movies?

[00:11:36] You'd like the Christopher. I know I would love the Christopher. I love the drama. The hot button. Everyone must have a tape. Okay, the drama. I nearly made it. Button's being pushed. I nearly made it to the drama. And then what happened? I just went back and watched all four seasons of 13 Reasons Why instead. Because, you know, it dealt with a lot of the same material. Mother Mary? You gotta meet Mother. You gotta meet the mother. No, and I wanted to see that too. But, you know, look, Christopher's Mother Mary.

[00:12:01] Look, these are movies that I am representative of, sadly, the average audience member. Exactly. They meet Joey Sims? I know. But we were like, yeah, I want to try to find time for that. And then... But you're going to see Mortal Kombat 2. Well, actually, yes. Because I saw the first Mortal Kombat in the AMC Empire 25. And which is what I believe is where you're going to see Mortal Kombat 2. This is priorities, guys. This is the right thing to do. And I had a great time.

[00:12:31] Of course. Scorpion was there. Sub-Zero. Most of the Trump cabinet, in fact. I'm having fun. You didn't see Project Hail Mary? All of America saw that one. That's the kind of crazy one. He's got a little rock buddy. Yeah, I don't know if you're familiar with this gentleman named Rocky. Rocky? No, and he was puppeteered by an artist who I know well. Yeah, the cow guy, right? He was the cow. James Ortiz, exactly, who did... He was the cow guy. He did the... Into the Woods, he was the cow.

[00:13:01] He comes from the theater world. He did, yeah, Milky White for the Into the Woods Broadway. The best guy I ever saw. Rocky was like a Broadway guy before he made his transition to movies. To space? Yeah, so Rocky operated... Yeah, Rocky is real. Yes, I know this. He's one of my good friends. Friend of the pod. Wuthering Heights? Did you wuther? I did wuther. You scaled the heights. Yeah. I did watch those walls. The Bride? Did you marry her? This is a fun game. I know, I'm just having fun.

[00:13:30] Can you tell I'm not that eager to talk about this movie? The Bride, when I thought The Bride was a musical, I was like, I gotta go see that. And then people were like... It has a dash of that. Yeah. There's a dash. They put on the Ritz for 20 minutes or whatever. Yeah. You didn't see it? No. Oh, interesting. Return to Silent Hill? Did you return to Silent Hill? Did you get in the Iron Lung? I'm just... I'm getting deeper now. This is a game I like. This time of year, we're recording this episode in May. It will come out in July. Is that correct?

[00:14:00] Sounds close. So the summer just kicked off. And it means it's the final moment where the top 10 box office movies of the year is still kind of wacky. Right? Where it's not like... There are movies that can be in the top 10 that were not blockbusters. Sure. So Reminders of Him is currently the 10th highest grossing film of the year. We love it. Just get another Colleen Hoover. Is that a Hoover joint? Yeah, but the drama might overtake it. The drama might briefly be the 10th highest grossing film.

[00:14:29] Because the drama's really been... Had staying power. Yeah. But right now... Yeah. Super Mario Galaxy, Project Hail Mary, Michael Hopper's, Devil Wears Prada 2. Haven't seen... Oh, no. Yeah, I do need to see that. Scream 7, Goat, Wuthering Heights, Send Help. I saw Send Help. Okay, so you saw two out of the 10. Woof. This year's needed Joey in the cinemas. But you're seeing too many dang plays. You're seeing too many dang plays. March and April is the height of the...

[00:14:58] Of the theater. It's a theater. It's Tony's season. But I'm usually not totally absent from the movie theater. Something went wrong. Because you work in the theater district. Again, not to talk to you. You host a theater podcast, House Closed. And we'll talk about... It's called House Closed? It's called House Closed Theater We Saw. Theater We Saw. Yes. Which I host with my friend Connor Scully. But we'll talk about that. And we'll introduce what this show is in one second. But because you work in the theater district, you are near the two busiest... This is true. ...theaters and movie theaters in New York. Of like, you know, the MC Empire.

[00:15:28] You know, what's on screen 25, baby? In many years. Yeah. This is what I used to do. This is how my life used to be structured. Sure. I used to wear an Aladdin outfit. Joe used to wear an Aladdin outfit. It didn't wear an Aladdin. You'd ride the carpet just down the block. I was an usher at Aladdin. Didn't he have like a hat or something? I think you're conflating it with when I worked concessions at Elf the Musical.

[00:15:58] And I wore like a... A little elf hat? A little elf hat, yes. Yeah. And yeah, I wore like a uniform as an usher at Aladdin. Sure, sure. But just like, you know, a nice uniform. But you'd ride the carpet down to the end of the block. Right, so I'd ride the carpet down. And then I'd have a few hours before my evening work. So then, yeah, I'd slot in whatever was playing in screen 24 at the 25. You know, so that was how I saw a lot of crap.

[00:16:26] Wow, George Wint originated Santa Claus in Elf the Musical? Yeah, that was... My first job in the city was doing concessions at the... Revival. ...Broadway, the second engagement... Wayne Knight was Santa Claus. Of Elf the Musical. It was not a revival. It was just them technically... It was a season last of five as a revival on Wikipedia. I guess it is... You could... It was basically just them doing the same thing again. Right. You know, just like a second engagement of the same production. Because it was... It was...

[00:16:54] This will only run eight weeks a year. It will come back only in the holiday window. They would just... They brought it back two years in a row. Right. And then they brought it back again a few years. And then like, if they don't bring it to Broadway, then it tours over the... The Grinch musical was the same thing. It's been done on the West End four separate times. Yeah. Wow. And it's not even set in England. Who of the British Santas been? Was Santa my... Just my Santa for my one for the second one was... Wayne Knight. Wayne Knight. Yeah. Wayne Knight. The only Santa I recognize among the British revivals is the third time... Oh, no.

[00:17:24] I'm sorry. No. I don't know any of the British ones. The third time they did it on Broadway, though, it was Sean Astin. Now, do you like getting that call as Sean Astin? Where they're like, We think you're Santa-sized now. You know, Sean? Also, like Santa age. We saw you recently. Yeah, and sort of Santa age. Are you ready to put on the beard? And George Wendt both have years on him. They do. Do credit to Sean Astin. Wendt and Knight did the original... The national president of Santa. The original... Yes, exactly.

[00:17:52] The original Santa track of that show, which is he pops up basically at the beginning and at the end, and that's it. So for them, they're like, Great. Easy gig. Princess cards. Broadway money, whatever. Yeah. Right. For Astin, they reworked it so that he had a second role in the show that he played for significant bits of the middle part. Mr. Greenway. He was like the evil boss. Okay. The one who's like, You're the publishing company. Of the publishing company. That's thematically precedent. It is. He's good and bad.

[00:18:20] It's a Captain Hook, Mr. Darling kind of thing. Interesting. No, no, no. Not the father. You're saying he played the James Caan character's boss. Yes, that's right. Michael Lerner's role in the movie. I suppose that. I'm just saying like sort of father figures, but I guess you're right that James Caan is more of a father figure too. Caan and Asner are the two big father figures to Buddy the Elf. They are. The film elf. But everyone forgets that Academy Award nominee Michael Lerner. A great actor. For the first time in his life, played an ornery boss? Get me a ton of this. Look.

[00:18:51] I want that Buddy the Elf feeling. Do you think Michael Lerner maybe contributed to a sort of negative stereotype over the years? The amount of bosses he played behind desks yelling? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Listen, this is Blank Check with Griffin and David. I'm Griffin. I'm David. It's a podcast about filmography's directors who have massive success early on in their careers and are given a series of blank checks to make whatever crazy passion projects they want. Sometimes those checks clear. Sometimes they bounce baby.

[00:19:20] And sometimes they vanish into the ether. They do. In the blink of an eye. In the blink of an eye. Truly, this was a one blink movie. Blinky, blinky. Yeah, this one blinked. I almost was like, has it left Hulu? I was like, no, it's there. Okay, phew. It is wild that twice he has had this ultimate get out of jail free card of like, guys, don't worry. Toy Story 5 is coming out in months. Yeah. Mere weeks from now. Yeah. I will have one of the highest grossing films of the year.

[00:19:48] Well, I also feel like John Carter was an actual, like much discussed bomb. Whereas this is more just something like no one never really knew it happened. So it's less, it'll stick to him a little bit. It's an interesting, right. Is it worse to have the most existent bomb in history or a true tree falls in the middle of the woods and no one's there to hear it movie? Right. I think it's better to have the, I made a movie that didn't exist. Like Chris Weitz, who's been on our show and discussed this. He made the Golden Compass, a movie that bankrupted his studio.

[00:20:18] God bless. Love you, Chris. Yes. And then he- Love you, new line. Rest in power. Yeah. Rest in power. Now you're a shingle. Went to the great shingle area in this guy. And then he made Afraid. Mm-hmm. That's how I refer to it. Yes. Afraid. Afraid. You see, you don't even know what happened. Afraid. Yeah. He made a movie called- I don't even know. And I know about these movies that don't exist. He made an AI horror movie called Afraid, but the AI in Afraid is capitalized. Yes. Afraid. Not his title.

[00:20:47] It had a different title. No, it was called They Listen. Yes. And then Sony was like, it should be called Afraid! Afraid! And he has copped to its non-existence on this very show. Yes. He made a movie that didn't exist. He went through a Barton Fink-esque atonement. Yes. Also, this movie premiered at Sundance and then dropped on Hulu like a month later. Uh, yeah. So I don't know all the behind the scenes, but that doesn't give a feeling of them being

[00:21:15] like, oh, we want to try to get someone to put this in theaters. That was always the exact plan. And he has been transparent about when they greenlit this movie, they were like, it's going to Hulu, by the way. It's a Hulu original. I think the Sundance premiere, if anything, was sort of a gesture of goodwill or a kind of like, but you can be at a festival. That's cool. Right. Yes. It was, right. That is the way to give this movie a launch. I don't know how much of an effort they would put into a traditional marketing campaign if

[00:21:44] not for, we can go to Sundance and you can do a bunch of interviews and a screen with a bunch of press there. It can happen that the film debuts at Sundance and people are like, we don't like it. Sure. And then that'll, that's bad. But I know, I know the date was set for when it was dropping on Hulu before it went to Sundance. In my memory, there was sort of an all in one announcement of this will premiere at Sundance and go to Hulu on February 27th. Uh, it's called In the Blink of an Eye.

[00:22:11] It's a film made by Andrew Stanton, whose films we're covering in the many series we're calling Podseat. Oh. You don't like that? I, Joey, it's gonna, it's gonna. I don't want to, I don't want to derail the series. It's gonna look really good. Pretty far along, too. It's gonna look really good in a graphic. We've only got one story five left, right? Yeah, yeah. So you better like it. Joey, I. So we've done, you guys have done John Carter. We, we leaped across that one. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Who's the John Carter guest? Matt Singer.

[00:22:41] The great Matt Singer. Great episode. Are you, are you a John Carter, uh, fan? Interrogator? Are you Joey Sims of Mars? Yeah. You know, I rewatched a chunk of it ahead of this episode. I, I didn't, wasn't able, I didn't have time to get through the whole thing. It didn't play as well to me as the first time I watched it. I remember watching it a few years ago and being like, this is kind of like a glorious mess.

[00:23:09] Like, wow, this is like a crazy, like, obviously this doesn't work, but like, what ambition. And I thought I would be revisiting that feeling. And then I watched it again and was like, oh Jesus, this is like, just the way it starts is like so rough. I think the book ends are tough with that one. I think there were some notes on that from, from me in the episode, the, the non Mars stuff. Yes. Yeah. This is, this is a similarly ambitious movie. I mean, this is not like a true. Yes.

[00:23:38] It's less, uh, right. Like the scale of it is more suggested than shown, but right. But it does, it is, I would say narratively and emotionally ambitious. And it does feel like on paper, a high risk movie. A, if you don't get this right, it's going to be embarrassing kind of movie. Right. Who's our guest? Our guest, as I said, Joey Sims, host of house closed, which I, I Googled to make sure I was getting the name of the podcast. Correct.

[00:24:05] And are you aware, Joey, that there is another podcast hosted by a man named Joey Sims. I assume not you. I assume you're not doing double duty called healing word. Join Joey Sims as we are challenged by studying the Bible to grow in our relationship with God and encourage to apply God's word in our life. It sounds like right material for a Jay Ferguson sitcom. Yes. House closed. Yes. Peter.

[00:24:34] We saw with Sims and Scully, my co-host, the two, my co-host being the lovely. Connor Scully, a theater producer. And we see, yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing my plug. Do your plug. Uh, we see two shows together. Sometimes a guest will also have seen the same two shows. Okay. That are either currently running like Broadway, off Broadway, off of Broadway, whatever.

[00:25:02] And then we talk about those two shows or in our latest episode, the fourth episode that we just did, it was three, it was three shows. So we're four episodes in and we already broke our format. You people are sorry. Sorry. How many of your episodes have been MJ the musical so far? Well, we're saving MJ the musical. So over the summer when things slowed down in the theater world, we'll do a 10 episode series. Yeah. Analyzing MJ the musical. Right.

[00:25:30] All the decisions that, uh, that, that, uh, that, that happened there. Will you, during the slowest months, like check in with more long running shows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're trying to figure out like over the summer, like what like fun things can we do? Like we want to do like perfect crime, you know, that show that's been running off Broadway for a million. Joey? You know about perfect crime. I have been really tempted to go see perfect crime and in fact, Zach Cherry, very recent guest on this podcast, most recent guest on this podcast. That's right. He and I have been strategizing to go see perfect crime together because he didn't know about

[00:25:59] it and I told him and he's, he's fairly obsessed now. Have you seen it before? New York's longest running play. I haven't seen it. It bills itself as New York's longest running play. It is this like god awful, like murder mystery. How dare you? What if it's good? The theater center. It says here it's perfect. Right, right. What used to be the Snapple Theater. What used to be the Snapple Theater center. But that used to have the Fantastics. Yes. Many, many years ago. Right. It's true. And the venue is owned now by the lead actress, right?

[00:26:27] Yes, I believe she owns the venue. Yes. Yes, that is correct. Content warning suicide. This sounds dark. Well, that's a spoiler alert. And she has appeared. Well, I put it on the fucking website. She stars in the show, produces the show, like hands out the playbills, you know, like one of those. She's been doing it since it started. I think she claims she's never missed a performance. I'm not sure if that's true. No one's checking. No. They're dark on Wednesdays, though. Lazy. And they were like uninterrupted, you know, up until. Until the pandemic.

[00:26:57] I know. I know she's like griped about that a lot. But there's also. She didn't want to close. She was like. Oh, good. But she's like missed family members wedding. Oh, yeah. Right. And there was a. Her children don't know her. There was a point that she was appearing in another play at the same time and she was still doing perfect murder. Like what's. For crying out loud. How dare you talk about the best show on earth? But she would like do her walk on in the other play and then run over to the Snapple theater and do. I.

[00:27:26] Let me know when you actually make plans to go see it because I. It has done 15,000 performances. I've been really eager to go. And I need the kick in the butt. It's been running as long as I've been alive. Essentially. It started a year after I was born. Probably in my honor. I should clarify. They were. Their performances were interrupted one other time by a very iconic event. And I remember this press release so well. So I was just pulling it back up to remember.

[00:27:51] Off Broadway's Perfect Crime and The Office, the musical because the Office parody musical runs in the same building. Halt performances due to theft of pipes at the theater. Someone stole some copper pipes. I just want to find this. Burglars. I'll fix your pipes for you. The perfect crime. Burglars broke into the vacant restaurant below, made their way to the basement of the building, disconnected and then stole every piece of copper pipe they could find.

[00:28:21] Every piece? This is quoting from the press release that the show put out. Leaving the building without any access to water. The criminals returned in the early hours today, smashing the front doors. They've not yet been. Anyway, so they were also interrupted when all their copper pipes were stolen. What year was that? We're pipeless. That was in 2022. And I don't know if these hoodlums were ever identified. Did you know that after the end of the show, you are given a two-page answer sheet to explain the show because it's complex? Yes.

[00:28:51] Is that because people were complaining? Like, I don't understand the ending. Here's some other facts. It's run in eight different theaters since 1987. Right. It premiered off-broad in the West Village at the Courtyard Playhouse. In November 2016, Gary Busey spent two weeks in the role of Lionel. Two fantastic weeks. November 2016, kicking America while it was down. Why did he do that?

[00:29:21] They've starcast other people. John Schneider was briefly in Perfect Crime. Love him. One of the Dukes of Hazzard. Perfect politics. But isn't he the one? Isn't the other one worse? Or are both Dukes canceled? Schneider's the bad one. Is Schneider the one who was in Smallville? Yes. Right. She's never taken a sick day. She's missed only four performances, Catherine Russell. The last in 1995 to attend her brother's wedding.

[00:29:49] That was the last time she was willing to go to a wedding over doing the show. So the Snapple has two theaters. Two stages. No longer the Snapple. So it used to be sponsored by Snapple. It's eternally the Snapple to me. We're going to call it the Snapple. Because there used to be this big... There was the Snapple sign. The Snapple sign. The caps that would go around and around. I'd scale the building to try to see the fact underneath. Because it wasn't facing the street. And it was like, perfect crime. $60. Come on. Don't steal our pipes.

[00:30:19] Pipes not for sale. And they took them off. They took them off. Now it is just... Well, do you think they were like, hey, Snapple, do you want to sponsor the theater? And they were like, we sponsor a theater? I will say, if you go to the Wikipedia page for the Theater Center, the image it shows you immediately is Snapple. Yeah. You can't shake that. You can't shake that. But I know that one of the theaters is the Jerry Robach Theater. Mm-hmm. After the Great Jerry Robach. That's where Fantastics ran for many, many years. He was in the original cast.

[00:30:47] And that's where I guess the Office musical is. The Ann L. Brunstein Theater. I know that. I go every night. Yeah, right now they have Perfect Crime, the Office parody musical, and they have one other parody musical going right now. It looks like they also have Friends, the unauthorized musical parody. There we go. And Singfeld, which is an unauthorized Seinfeld parody musical. Wow, wow, wow. I saw also a sadly now closed Love Actually parody musical at the same venue.

[00:31:18] It was actually not long after theaters reopened after COVID that I went to see that show. And you were happy. And my main memory of it was that the Alan Rickman character was performed by a guy who was in full, like, Snape garb. And, like, anytime anyone would talk to him, he'd pull out his wand. You get it. It was kind of funny. I expecto adultery. There you go. Perfect Crime opened. It reopened April 2021.

[00:31:48] It was the first show in New York City to get approval from actors' equity to resume performances. You just imagine that Catherine Russell was, like, scratching her thighs for 14 months, like, digging her nails and being like, when can I get back on the fucking stage? De Blasio appeared at their first performance. I think he, like, gave a little speech. There's Fiorello the musical, of course, which is about LaGuardia, right? It's a famous Broadway musical. When will we get our De Blasio musical? Bill. Is there...

[00:32:17] Tall Bill. I was going to say, who's the tallest musical theater actor we have right now? Tommy Toon. Like, do we have to put Norman Leo butts on stilts to do the De Blasio? Fuck. Who is the tallest Broadway actor? Well, I'll just Google it. Who is the tallest Broadway actor? Who is the tallest Broadway actor? Yeah. You bring me on. Tommy Toon did come up for exactly this type of insight.

[00:32:47] Harold McGillen, I can tell you. Sure. Who is a long-time phantom, is 6'4". Pretty good. Not as tall as Bill, who's 6'7". Tommy Toon's 6'6". And then Timothy Hughes, that's the big man from Hadestown. I was thinking of the big guy from Hadestown. Now, he's more of an ensemble player. He's, you know, very hot. But I remember that with Hadestown where there was the one big guy. Yeah, the tall guy. Because they've got all the guys with the big hammers who are like, you know, in industrial hell. I mean, you're also saying he's more of an ensemble guy.

[00:33:16] This is maybe his breakout. This is the thing that makes him a leading man. I mean... De Blasio. Yeah, you know what? Get him out there. Yeah, you know, first act, De Blasio is mayor. Second act, De Blasio is horndog. I was going to say, entire second act is just sitting down with the New York Times for that piece. Just like De Blasio, like on the apps. You know, it's just like De Blasio being like, field, eh? I'm going to match one of these days.

[00:33:45] Even if they hire someone like this Hughes guy, they should still put the actor on stilts and make him so tall that his head is not visible in the proscenium arch. That'd be good. It should be like police squad style. He's out of frame. You know, this film came out in the blink of an eye. So, look, look, look. There was nobody out here who was like, when are you guys covering in the blink of an eye and can I be on the show? Literally, nobody. Nobody.

[00:34:15] Joey has a new show. He has a new podcast. It's a show. A show about shows. He's my brother. Not to mention the credits. Longtime brother. Longtime brother. Hey, and uncle. And he is my uncle. What? No, he's my uncle. He's a wonderful uncle to my children. How are my kids doing? One of your younger sons has some anger issues. Sure. It's true. Overall, they're doing great. He's got a lot of rage. It's Rocksteady? No, Bebop. Oh, they have names too.

[00:34:45] Well, yeah. It's so funny to watch him do the math. To do the math, yes. It's why I tee him up every time. Because I like that he has to seriously remember the canon he's containing. Yeah. Yeah, and so you were like, I'd love to, you know, plug my show on the podcast. You know, like, what's coming up? Like, Scorsese, could I do Hugo? And I'm like, you know, Hugo's a 2027 episode for us. It's going to be a while. It's a while away. You know? And I was like, look. You know what's coming up in the blink of an eye?

[00:35:14] I got an empty spreadsheet cell right here in front of me for a much more recent episode. If you'd care to fire up Hulu, H-U-L-U dot com. It felt sort of in keeping with my, you know, some of my appearances so far on the show. Lost in Space. My first was Lost in Space. A great movie. As a sibling's choice. Yes. Ratatouille. And actually great movie. Yes. Ratatouille, an actually great movie. A double sibling episode. Yes. But then Polar Express. A cancer you infected us with.

[00:35:43] That one I requested. Yes. And now, now David has seen that movie like 80 times and has like fucking Stockholm Syndrome. Yeah, I kind of like it. Never let him, never, never let him. It is fun. It was fun in theaters. I was thinking about, you know, the era of the siblings choice. A thing where we needed to fill slots on the schedule and we were like, what are fun ideas for episodes? Both of my siblings choices got 20 years later legacy quals. Right. That's a good point, right?

[00:36:12] We just had Romilly on the show because Devil Wears Proud 2. Yeah, Devil Wears Proud 2. Space Jam, of course, got the perfect and well-remembered They started a new legacy. Yes. What's Algy Rhythm up to lately? Running for 2028 public nomination? I was going to say. He's the entire cabinet. He greenlit Michael? Or he's selecting the captain. Algy! Is this the Don Cheadle AI thing? Yes. His name is Algy Rhythm. He's an Algy Rhythm.

[00:36:42] Connor Ratliff has a running bit where he insists on calling that character the king of content even though he's never seen the movie and he won't be corrected on it. And I was like, oh, what are the chances we get a Lost in Space legacy sequel? And you're like, they're actually zero. We got the Netflix series. But I think with Hurt dead... Oh yeah, that's the top reason. That's the top reason. Who's going to bring the Hurt if not Big Bill? Look, Goldsman is after... Oh, fuck.

[00:37:11] He's like, amassing power at Paramount. Goldsman is like calling up the execs. He's like, listen, I wrote a draft of Lost in Space 2. Wait a second, David. I think I know what you're going to say. Well, I mean, I was trying to point to one. I was trying to point to our President Red Hulk who's over there. We bought a new shelf. We're remodeling the office. I'm not sure where President Hulk is right now. Do we know, Ben? Okay. I'm not certain. And he was respectively stuffed away. He's our president! So, yeah. And I did salute him. Let's say he's visiting Camp David.

[00:37:40] Yes. Gotta see the blossoms. Yeah. Liv Tyler, where are my pills? So are you suggesting... Like fucking recast us. Harrison Ford. Swap him in. Swap him in there. Be like, we got Ford. We got Ford. Everyone else is back. Mimi Rogers. Yes. Matt LeBlanc. Lacey Chabert. Blarp. The fucking kid who played the kid. Blarp. Blarp. They're all back. Jared Harris. We don't let him talk. Jared Harris dubbed him. Yes.

[00:38:10] Gary Oldman only in spider form. Yes. Oh, Heather Graham. Heather Graham? She's probably the most, like, still looks like herself of all the people I just mentioned. Yes. Like, she's aged into... Yeah, you're like, oh yeah, she's still Heather Graham. She's doing the new White Lotus. This season? Is that right? Is she on that? I think so. Did you see our friend Max Minghella's on it? I did see that. Well, well, well. Well, well. I'm checking in. Ding, ding, ding. But Lost in Space 2, I'd love to see it. It does seem unlikely.

[00:38:39] I also feel like Stephen Hopkins has not worked of late. Yeah. Lost in Space. What was his last film? I don't think he did anymore. Old Stevie. Films. Didn't he just retreat back to television? No, you are wrong. And I remember his last film, of course, because it was Race. Oh, right. Jesse Owens' biopic that came out 10 years ago that has a lot of Lenny Riefenstahl. Like, you watch it and you're like, this is going to be a Jesse Owens' biopic. And they're like, yeah, yeah, sure. He ran the race. Lenny Riefenstahl, though, played by Carice Van Houten,

[00:39:08] is like a big part of the movie. Because, of course, it's about the 36 Olympics. But, like, it's maybe a little too concerned with her. Probably because she's a fascinating figure in history, but you're kind of like, isn't this the Jesse Owens movie? Well, they have a little bit of a will-they-won't-they thing going. Talk about an insane filmography, though. Dangerous Game, Nightmare on Elm Street, The Dream Child. He was a solid genre director. Predator 2, Judgment Night, Blown Away, The Ghost in Darkness. Blown Away and Ghost in Darkness are him leveling up

[00:39:38] to, like, a bigger scale genre. Then Lost in Space is like, you get to do a big fucking special effects. This is a giant special effects studio movie. Yeah. Right? You know, it was New Line, but still, you know. And then Under Suspicion. I've never seen. Of course, The Big Three. Hackman Freeman Bellucci. Oh. Then the Life and Death and Peter Sellers HBO movie. Which is, like, not bad. Yeah. But it's TV movie. The Reaping. The Hilary Swank. That's the Hilary Swank Ten Plagues of the Bible movie. Correct. Where she's like, I have two Oscars, and I'm like,

[00:40:07] then why are you fighting locusts? Hilary. That is a brutal retort. You know what I mean? Because it's like, why are you fighting locusts? It's not, like, all about Steve, where Sandra Bullock's like, look, I filmed this right before I won an Oscar. It's like, it's three years after Million Dollar Bay around. Like, you have two Oscars. Yeah. You had to do The Reaping. Yeah. And then Race. And then Race. Yeah, then there's nine years between The Reaping and Race, and he hasn't made a film sense. He's made some TV sense.

[00:40:42] Meditieren, yoga, joggen, nichts entspannt mich. Echt? Mich entspannt meine Steuer total. Steuer? Wie Finanzamt? Die Steuererklärung? Ja. Ich hab ganz locker über 1000 Euro zurückbekommen. Hast du geheime Connections oder Excel-Superkräfte? Nö. Nur die Visu-Steuer-App. Wow. Und das ist einfach? Klar. Die macht fast alles automatisch. Ich fühl mich plötzlich so. Entspannt. Hol dir dein Geld zurück. Abgabefrist, 31. Juli. Was? Schaffst du ganz entspannt mit Visu-Steuer? Oh, ja. No.

[00:41:16] You're here to discuss Andrew Stanton's In the Blink of an Eye. I want... This came out February 27th. Then I thought, oh, Leap Day. And then I'm like, oh, no, no, no. Leap Day is February 29th. Then I had the thought, what movies came out on February 29th? Because that's rare. Oh, sure. I found three. Okay. You want to hear them? Yep, please. Semi-Pro. Yeah. February 29th, 2008. Not a good movie in my memory. No. The Other Berlin Girl. Also February 29th. Okay. 2008. Same year. Yes. Here's the most important... Well, because it's every four years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:41:46] Here's the best one. Yeah. An extremely goofy movie. Okay. February 29th, 2000. That was pretty funny. Was it? No, we get to do that. That's a DTV, though. It was direct. But that's a wonderful film. That's it. Is it? It's a pretty excellent picture. Ask me. What if... It's goofy movie back to school. Oh, Goofy's got to go to school. Finally, I get to move out and be my own man. Right. Look, I'm signing off. I'm the dean.

[00:42:15] He decides he wants to take classes and bring disco back. Oh, of course. Yeah. So there's a lot of shake your groove thing in that movie. B.B. Newworth plays a hot beatnik love interest for Goof. Uh-huh. Yeah. Max have a love interest? He does. I'm trying to remember. He's gay. It'd be pretty awesome if they'd done that. It'd be pretty awesome if in the year 2000... Fucking get over it. I'm trying to remember who voiced. I'm sure it was like someone who was on a fucking Fox

[00:42:44] or WB drama at the time. Uh, In the Blink of an Eye came out this year. I'm seeing here that Vicky Lewis is the charismatic dude. You're right. And B.B. Newworth is a librarian. Uh, just to let you know. Okay, so Vicky Lewis is the beatnik who is Max's love interest and B.B. Newworth is the librarian who is the dad's love interest. I thought that sounded off age-wise, but I wasn't going to say anything. I'm here to tell you that Vicky Lewis plays P.J.'s love interest. Who the fuck is P.J.? P.J. is the best friend.

[00:43:14] Forgive me for not remembering who P.J. Goofy is. Yeah, of course. He's Pete's son. Oh, he's the chunkier one. He's a big boy. But then wait a second. Does Max not have a love interest? He's an incel. Okay. Okay. He starts looking at 4chan. I can't believe that I'm doing this. Okay. Can we... We're about 45 minutes. All right. You know what? This is going to be a 90-minute episode anyway, so let's talk about In the Blink of an Eye. I do have a dossier if you want me to open it. Oh, yes, please. Incredibly, J.J. did research on this movie.

[00:43:44] That is astonishing. Look, it's a feature film. It looks science-y. That's true. I'm sure they built sets and stuff. They didn't just make it in his backyard. Mm-hmm. 2016, Andrew Stanton made Finding Dory. 2026, he made In the Blink of an Eye. So that's 10 years. Yeah. What did he do in between? Many things. Live action television. Yes. I think basically post-Dory, he basically was like, I want to make live action stuff and there's lots of TV and it's a way to do it. He did a recent interview

[00:44:14] leading up to Toy Story 5 where he said that he intends for Toy Story 5 to be his final animated film. And he said, it's just that these movies take so long. And I love animation, but I was never primarily an animation person. I grew up working at an arthouse theater in high school and that's when I really fell in love with film. And I'm into all different types of movies and it's been a great blessing to work at a place like Pixar and have that sort of freedom and leeway. But you can get a lot more done in live action.

[00:44:43] And I think there was a hope that, well, Finding Dory resets the board a little bit from the stink of John Carter. And now I will try to make a smaller budgeted live action film. And there are many scripts that he has options and signed up for, but to sort of get his reps in. Meanwhile, he did a tremendous amount of live action TV. He directed episodes five and six of the second season of Stranger Things. I haven't seen them because Barb's not involved. Obviously, my stance on Stranger Things is no Barb, no David. My Barb purist.

[00:45:12] A Barb absolutist, in fact. Yes. Yes. You watch Stranger Things. Yeah. Do you remember Andrew Stanton's work on Stranger Things? I mean, Stranger Things has a pretty solid, like established visual style that I feel like even when you're bringing in like Stanton or even like Frank Darabont. Like Vecna has a floor inside of him. Is it Vecna or fucking, what is it, the wildebeest? Yeah, it's Vecna. Demogorgon? Vecna lives on top of that tummy floor. He lives in the tummy. The tummy is Vecna's home.

[00:45:42] That was the twist. Joey, I have never watched Stranger Things, I believe just because I try to keep tabs on Stanton's stuff. He directed the Eleven, like, punk episode. Oh, did he do that one? Yes. That one that they kind of, well, it was like a... Did he? A second season, yeah, like almost a failed backdoor pilot thing. A little bit of a kind of one-off, self-contained episode. A one-off self-contained story. No, he didn't direct that one. He didn't? Okay. No, that was Rebecca Thomas. Interesting.

[00:46:11] He directed episodes five and six, and I can tell you, like, Hopper, Hooper, Hopper? Hopper? This is season two. Yeah. And that's all he did. Yeah, Hopper. Yeah, he got lost in a tunnel, and, you know, some Eleven appears to be involved. I'm sure he did a good job. You know, I gotta say, the only ones that I ever remember noticing, like, oh, there's a bit of extra flavor here, was when Darabont directed a couple episodes in the last season of Stranger Things. And you noticed a few things where you're like,

[00:46:40] oh, okay, that has a little swish to it. Now, this is a show I never stuck with. I only watched the first season, but I know you watched Pinata, the sixth episode of the fourth season of Better Call Saul. It's an excellent episode. And Better Call Saul is a show I adore. Yeah, you're a big fan, I know. Yes, I think it's like a masterpiece. But that's a very good episode. He directed an episode of Legion. Legion. He did the fourth episode of Tales from the Loop. He did four total episodes of a show I love called For All Mankind on Apple TV, including, in my opinion,

[00:47:10] its best ever episode. He did the third episode. It's the one where fucking, I mean, I don't remember like the names of the episode, but like where Joel Edgert, I mean, not Joel Edgert, Joel Kinnaman. God bless. There's a lot of Joels out there. Robert Cop. Where his adoptive daughter decides like she wants to be an astronaut. They have this huge fight. Oh, or she wants to be in the military or whatever, you know, like following his footsteps. And they have this huge fight in a living room, him and his wife and the daughter. And the camera like sticks with it, moves all around. And it's so good.

[00:47:40] And it's so beautifully acted. It's the show at its peak. I mean, that show. I got to start watching the show. It's fallen off a little. Season five's a little. It's kind of like, guys, I think you're done, you know, full of ideas. Our friend Alan Sepinwall in a text recently revealed to me that they are about to launch a spinoff show that is retelling everything that's happened on for all mankind so far from the perspective of the Russians. They're just resetting. This is correct. It's called Star City. It seems like a...

[00:48:09] I don't think it's going to run five seasons. Put it that way. Yeah. That's just a wild idea to be like a triumphant run. We're wrapping up. By the way, the spinoff is starting in three months and it's just going back to the first point of the story. I'm like, we know what happened. So what do you... Like, what do we... Anyway, whatever. Who knows? It's also in English despite all the Russian scenes in the show being in Russian in the main show. But clearly they were like, well, the whole show can't be in Russian. Then I'm like, well, then what are you doing? Maybe don't make it.

[00:48:39] He also directed an episode of Three Body Problem and he wrote two episodes of Obi-Wan Kenobi. A show I recently watched for the first time and I will admit I think is quite terrible. Quite bad. But he's like... The credits on that are like... You know, he's like one of like a million names that like went in and out the door. Who knows? Exactly. Who knows who were what? Those Star Wars shows have a lot of wacky credits attached to them because at one point this person was supposed to do this or this was supposed to be a movie. Right. Hey, if you would like put him as an example,

[00:49:08] put Stanton in charge of like, hey, you're our like guiding vision for this show, maybe it would have been better, but I don't think it was that. No, it's odd because, right, he gets credited as a writer on two episodes, but I don't even think he's a producer and he didn't direct any. Yeah. And it made sense. It just feels like you like stumbled into a writer's room for two weeks and then you were like, oh, fuck this. But it's also wild because it's not like he worked in a writer's room on any other shows from the time he starts at Pixar. No, but like, I feel like that's kind of like what being in the Pixar brain trust is a little bit. Yes. They just don't get

[00:49:37] credited that way. And I also think it makes sense that that moment Obi-Wan is where they're really starting to widen the aperture of like, maybe we're going to make a ton of stuff for Disney Plus. If I understand, I'm like, I just want to get in the door at Lucasfilm. I want to fucking talk to them about Star Wars. And I think a lot of people who worked on the Star Wars TV shows were basically like, I'd like to do something to do. I'd love to be on a set with a lightsaber. Like, it would just be awesome. Like, I grew up with Star Wars. Like, this rocks. I mean, obviously he makes sense. He does. To have done something. And a show that made sense

[00:50:07] was Obi-Wan Kenobi, a perfect miniseries that made sense. Sense. I assume I will have griped about this under Mandalorian. Everyone looks down the camera and was like, this makes sense. And Grogu episode. But it is astonishing to me that almost all of the Disney Plus Star Wars shows are about a person with a child being chased by someone. Yes. Being chased by the fourth most important evil Jedi-adjacent dark side guy like in this sector.

[00:50:37] They present someone. Like, Ray Stevenson, RIP, God bless him, shows up and he's like, and I'm also not a Sith. Yes. But I kind of like him and I'm not a Jedi either, but I have a lightsaber and I'm like, well, what are you? He's like, I don't know. I was just like, how are these all the exact same premise where you're like semi-stoic lead, younger, more vulnerable, sort of like under the wing, you know, they have to protect. They're looking for something and someone else is chasing them and the person

[00:51:06] who's chasing them is established as really evil and the longer things go on, you're like, they're only kind of half evil. They're all that save for Andor. Which is probably the best one. I mean, Ahsoka's pretty good. Has anyone thrown that take out? That Andor's good? That people are like, Andor. Then we might want to cut that out just because... Well, my microphone's on fire!

[00:51:35] You've watched Ahsoka, right? Ahsoka? Ahsoka? I watched Ahsoka. I'm going to watch season two. Why not? I love Punishment. Yeah, I want to see what happens with, what the hell's the blue guy who like... Yeah, Thrawn. I think Ahsoka is so fascinating to me because... I swear to God, they're like, get ready to meet the scariest villain in the world. He's fucking Joe Biden in that show. He's so quiet. He's like, um... I just... The end of that season one is so wild to me because it's Filoni basically being like, I am setting up this Thrawn guy as like, this is it. Like, this is the new guy.

[00:52:05] Because the show mostly has other smaller villains that she's dealing with. No, no, but not just in the show. Like, to me, it felt like it was suggesting like, we are... This is your new bad. He's the engine of the Star Wars TV universe. Extend into other shows. Like, I want to make movies and I'm sure he probably does want to do all this, but I'm watching it and I'm like, there's no fucking way that's happening. So what the hell is this? I don't know. Do we have to watch season two for the... You don't have to do shit. Well, I know that. Season two hasn't happened and won't come out.

[00:52:35] Yeah, it won't come out by next week. Thank God. Because that's your... Season two, it doesn't even have... Yeah, it doesn't even have... But it has been filmed and Rory McCann replaced Ray Stevenson. Yeah, I mean, the man died. Look, Ray Stevenson was not the problem. Exactly. He actually was the best part of the show. He was the best performance. And he was... You were kind of like, there's something to this idea. There's something. Right. You know, to like the idea of what he's playing. Obviously, the big problem with Ashoka... Ahsoka... Ahsoka?

[00:53:05] Is just like, she's a non-character. She's a non-character. And like, I know in the cartoon, she's like a spunky teen who's like, I'm a rebel or whatever. But by the time the show, like now that she's a grown-up, she's just like, her vibe is she's serene. Every character is like that. I mean... Yes! Yeah, I mean, they're all kind of just like, we are your friend, Ahsoka. so we haven't seen Mando and we haven't recorded it yet, so I'm going to burn some of these takes here and just remind me to not make these complaints in the Mando episode, okay?

[00:53:34] My takeaway watching Ahsoka was like, this feels like watching children perform Shakespeare. Where they don't know what they're saying. Yeah. And the only direction they're being given is play it seriously. And say it slow. So everything is like, your character motivation is serious. And I think that is partially that Filoni ran these cartoon shows. I have not watched much of Clone Wars, but I watched the majority of Rebels, which I really liked,

[00:54:04] and was a show that was fun and had defined characters. And so much of Ahsoka is him being like, I'm bringing all my Rebels characters into live action and then zapping them of any personality because I'm trying to fight the perception that these are children's characters. Right, cartoons are silly, yeah. So everyone is just like, saying things really slowly and quietly. Even fucking like, Ezra shows up who's been built up as, by the way, you can't have a character called Ezra. No. Star Wars is ridiculous.

[00:54:34] But he shows up and he's been built up as like, oh, crazy wild Ezra. He's so fun. And then he's just pretty much just as dead-eyed as the rest of them. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, who I always love. I think basically never misses. And we've talked about David. Like, she's someone who can single-handedly elevate dog shit. Totally. And in this, she is so boring and lifeless. Everyone is bad. The villains... The villains... The whales. The whales... There are whales.

[00:55:03] ...are fun. The whales are good. The whales are good, but everyone had told me the whales were good. I skipped the show when it aired years ago. And I remember at the time people being like, the whales kind of feel like classic Star Wars magic. I got to the whale sequence in the season and I was like, that was good, but if you're telling me that's the high water mark and I have four episodes left to go, I'm terrified. I agree with you, the whales are like the one chunk that I felt a little something. Anyway, that's my Star Wars rant.

[00:55:33] Also, Ahsoka's basically not the lead character of that show. She's not. She's dead for half the season. Not dead. She's a lot of them. She's in a fucking... In between. She's in the Anakinverse. She's in the limbo, the Anakinverse. It's just everyone being like, we got to find Ezra. Ezra will not. Have you watched Skeleton Crew yet? I'm watching it right now. That one at least has energy. What? Did they renew Skeleton? No. No. That's a one I've done. That was a one I've done. Ahsoka's the only thing that's coming back. And they've announced And that'll be the end of it.

[00:56:03] Like, it's over. And then Filoni will be shot in the middle of time. Probably. Fucking Death and Stone. But they announced that Filoni was going to direct a movie that was the culmination of all the... That's what I mean. I think he thought that was happening. That was happening. And I think there was a little bit of we've changed our priorities. Let's just put Grogu on a screen. Right. And see what happens. Jon directs that. We're sorry. We'll let you make Ahsoka season two to wrap up those threads. Yeah. I honestly think

[00:56:33] they should just let him... Not for theaters, but like in Disney... Let him make whatever crazy fucking movie he wants to make where he brings back all of them through AI. Like, you know, Luke, Leia, Han. No, he wants to do this. Let's be real. And he wants to correct everything that he thinks they did wrong in the sequel series of like, these guys should have been fighting together and they should be fighting Thrawn, I guess. Like, let him make this piece of shit. Yes, right. Like, a YouTube fan movie.

[00:57:02] It's on the Disney Plus episode in a garbage can and you have to like lift up the lid. And they're like, really? And you're like, yeah, what's in there? They're like, all right, we'll get it out for you. It's like covered in banana peels. If you press play, the fucking FBI breaks down your door. There's just a spinning wheel and it just turns into a question mark and it's like, come on. That wasn't going to exist. Chris Hansen shows up. Yeah, right. Oh, so you decided to watch the Filoni movie. You watched the Filoni movie and in the blink of an eye. What's going on with you? We will talk about this

[00:57:32] like two months prior to this. But yeah, I do wonder if they have like a Hail Mary guy like the James Gunn DC thing. Kathy has retired. Filoni, we're winding down. He's going to go to some cartoon world. Filoni is in charge of the whole thing. I know. Yeah, but is that real? After Mando does poorly, do they go like, you know, we want a new steward and it's, but then I don't know who the answer to that question is. I mean, I think I know the answer, which is, it's, they already announced Simon Kinberg is sort of like

[00:58:03] overseeing. That ain't it, my friends. Let's do it again. But they're like, Filoni is in charge of operations, which I also think is partially being like, maybe. Filoni is in charge of HR. Maybe you don't write and direct the stuff as much anymore. And that Simon Kinberg is the guy who's sort of like, you got to figure out the movie problem. Everything's really good anyway. We're in the blink of an eye. So Interstan does all this TV. I know the two movies that he came close to making, the one was Revolver. Is that correct, Sims? All right, well, let me just continue this.

[00:58:34] Yeah, he was going to remake it. Okay, so Stanton, just to note, he is on the Pixar senior creative team. He was the narrative guru for, literally credited as the narrative guru for Ralph Breaks the Internet. Hey, Ben. Okay, okay. Good work. Because this is where once Disney has bought Pixar, they start to send the Pixar brain trust out to other projects at the other tendrils to give advice. Toy Story 4, he is a writer alongside Stephanie Folsom.

[00:59:03] So he created Forky, so obviously he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for that work. It was in that same recent piece. Toy Story 4 was originally announced as a John Lasseter movie. Weirdly enough, Rashida Jones was writing it with her partner Will McCormick, her writing partner. It was the Woody Bo Peeper Union movie, but a very different version of it that didn't work for years and years and years, and they kept pushing it back. And then Lasseter steps down, hands off directing. Lasseter,

[00:59:32] lots of hugging Lasseter, is pushed out of Pixar entirely. And they basically go to Stanton and they're like, can you take a crack at this? Toy Story 4 is a disaster and we cannot cancel it because there is so much money tied up in the idea of marketing and merchandising and the promise to our shareholders that we will have another Toy Story movie. And as he put it, he like, you know, locked himself in a room and within like six hours was like, I think I know what the movie is.

[01:00:01] That he is the Toy Story genius and he is the one who can constantly... Yeah, that's what they, what he and Joss Whedon did all those years ago, right? Yes. When the first one was a disaster and then they locked themselves in a room. Right. And Joss Whedon was gone after like a week and then he continued to just fix everything. And that, yes, he came up with Forky, right? He wins the Nobel Prize. I mean, his first big take was like, Bo coming back and okay, if three was the end of Andy's story, should four be kind of like, well, then what does Woody do now? The other thing he said, which I think

[01:00:30] this is real genius with the Toy Story stuff is the problem they kept butting against with Toy Story 4 and I've read at least one or two of the scripts that have floated around for the canceled Toy Story 4. They were like, well, we want to tell a love story. We want to make a rom-com. We want to make a movie about like Bo and Woody getting back together. And people kept writing movies where they were like, this has nothing to do with them being toys. You're just writing a romance between two characters who happen to be toys. And Stanton's always been like, you have to start from the perspective of

[01:00:59] what are the experiences that are unique to them? And he was just like, well, like how do Woody and Bo Peep get split up? What is uniquely traumatizing about that that would be connected to them being a toy? Oh, Bo gets donated because the sister has a different relationship to her toys than Andy does. Yada, yada, yada. And then the story comes from there.

[01:01:30] May 2020, he was attached to something called Chairman Spaceman, which is an adaptation of a Thomas Pierce short story that was published in The New Yorker that he was going to do for Simon Kinberg's genre films for Searchlight, which is about a corporate raider who renounces his wealth and signs up for an interplanetary mission to colonize the solar system. Sounds somewhat interesting. It sounds like In the Blink of an Eye is sort of like the other heady sci-fi script

[01:01:59] that then got going. Correct. So he jumped to that one. Yes. And obviously, Hulu, Searchlight, all owned by Disney who owe Stanton for the billions and billions of dollars he has made them. But he put it as like those were the two things I was really serious about and In the Blink of an Eye came together a little faster. Revolver is Revolver. Revolver, a romantic coming-of-age comedy starring Ethan and Maya Hawke written by a Stranger Thing writer, Kate Treffrey. Treffrey.

[01:02:28] She's the one who ended up writing the Stranger Things Broadway play. Ah, of course, in which we saw The First Shadow. The First Shadow. That's right. And to explain the floor thing in that one. Well, stages traditionally have a floor. Exactly. Does Vecna live in a theater? Is it Vecna that has a floor? Inside your stomach there is the fact of yeah, there is a flat floor and people just walking around. Hardwood. Right. Yeah, exactly. Wall-to-wall carpet. Um, uh, it was... Be careful of the spikes. Oh, the tummy end. Because there are spikes in the towel. The tummy spikes.

[01:02:58] They'll get you. They'll get you right there. You watched the finale. This is how they killed Vecna. Right, they got Vecna. That fucker. Throw him into his... What did Vecna do? Into a big spike. Recession? Made a recession happen? What did he do? He was one of the craziest fucking things in the world. He wasn't a big fan of gay, uh, of gay people, you know, so that was why he was after... Vecna? That was why he was after Will all those years. And I am... That's barely a joke. That is basically what they imply in the last season among many other things. It is so insane that people disliked that ending so much that within a week they were like, no, no, no. There's another episode.

[01:03:39] Revolver, it's a 60s set thing in which Maya Hawke is a teenager in Anchorage, Alaska and a flight from to Japan carrying the Beatles is forced to stop in Anchorage and she decides to fuck George Harrison. That is her goal. That is the plot of the movie. That is her goal. She... Stanton wanted to make that for like five years eventually. It just never happened. Now, Colby Day, the writer of this movie, who also wrote

[01:04:08] Spaceman on Netflix, right? a movie I like a lot. Yeah. He starts writing In the Link of an Eye when living in New York in the mid-2010s. He goes to the planetarium. Heard of it? In the Hayden Planetarium in the museum in natural history. And, you know, they've got a big map of the timeline of the universe. It's a, you know, it's a cool place to go. Big bang and blah, blah, blah. And he said, it gave me an existential crisis, which that can happen when you start thinking about the vastness of the universe.

[01:04:38] So, he's like, I think when you start to zoom out and you think about what does it mean to be here for not that long, you start to find the meaning of life. He wanted to talk about the idea that even if we don't get much time, the things we do ripple through it. So, he's trying to reassure his own anxiety. That's certainly what this movie is about. Yeah. So, he's like, you know, initial concept is just that he wanted to write about time. So, the initial story began with the big bang. the first thing

[01:05:07] in time. Right. Kind of the ultimate prequel. He also was much more rigid about moving from past to present to future in that order. But I think Stanton pushes it more to, like, be fluidly jumping between them all. You know, not like his three segments. This movie was in development for years. It also, you know, from the time that Stanton came attached to the script. Was it a blacklist script? It was on the blacklist list in like 2016, I want to say. Uh, yes.

[01:05:37] It was on the blacklist in 2016, number six. But, you know, you get put on the blacklist, everyone comes a calling, but they're also like, by the way, we have to change everything. Right. Or whatever. Um, Stanton read the script years later though. Mm-hmm. Uh, and was like, I'm jealous of whoever wants to try and make this, realizes no one's making it, and decides to jump on board. He calls Colby and says, you love Cloud Atlas as much as I do.

[01:06:07] And Colby Day says, uh, yeah, I do. I love story circles. That was my goal, was doing a kind of a Cloud Atlas-y thing. Stanton also loves The Fountain, another movie I would say that is trying this kind of thing. Um, and he likes a triptych, he says. He's like, you know, you go to the roots of all that and there's something deep that all of us connect to about trifectas. Of course, he might be thinking about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I don't know. Famous trifecta. Father,

[01:06:37] Son, Holy Ghost. So, he starts revising. I don't know. I mean, this is... I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest with you guys. It's pretty boring. Obviously, it's super Cloud Atlas-y, Cloud Atlas-y, Yes. It is kind of like a, the, a very, a small scale, if you could call it that, or, not small scale isn't right, but a like, a very, a more intimate version of Cloud Atlas. It's like, what if we did what Cloud Atlas is trying to do, but we really... Yes,

[01:07:07] it's very... hone it down to just these like, like three or so, like core relationships. And a kind of really clean line of cause and effect. This is sort of one narrative thread that's touched in three different eras. Yes. And very, just very small lives, like, in each of these, I mean, yes, he is placing them in a canvas where it's like, look how huge they're, the impact of these small lives actually is.

[01:07:37] contrast, but they are, you know, pretty modest little stories. Modest is a good way to put it. This was announced in October 2022. It was shot in 2023. And then just sort of was in stasis for three years. I've obviously wanted to do Stanton forever. So from the moment this movie was announced, I was like, well, when this comes out, we'll cover him. And then it kept on getting, like,

[01:08:07] together and we can do a series that doesn't end on this movie and that has the contrast of both of them in the same year. I did not, like, this movie went to Sundance and was, I would say, critically ravaged and then has gone to Hulu with basically, like, no impact whatsoever. I had, you know, after the snowstorm canceled the premiere, I was like, word's not great. I'm going to have to watch this for the podcast. If I watch it now, will I even remember it by the time we record? Let me just hold off

[01:08:37] until it's actually time to do this episode. And so I've been dreading it. I did not dislike this movie. I cannot say I liked it, but I felt a little more neutral on it than I was expecting with how negative the word was. I think, Joey, you and I are maybe in a slightly similar space of, like, nothing really works for me, but there wasn't anything I bumped on too hard and I like what it's trying to do, even if I don't think it gets there. It's a fart sandwich, but it's a sandwich.

[01:09:07] This is Ben's review is that it's a fart sandwich. Ben is a fart sandwich. Yes. But he's just upset that he didn't get to voice the AI friend. I think the movie would have been a lot more fun if Kate McKinnon's AI friend had been voiced by you. Ben would have been very good. You did voice the AI friend. That was not a name I recognized. I spent the whole movie for some reason thinking that some narrative connective tissue they were doing was that the AI was voiced by Rashida Jones. It sounded different. I thought that's huge. I thought that's huge. It's not Rashida Jones. It's some random actress. It's a little confusing. But although I don't I don't know

[01:09:36] what that would have meant. Anyway, my experience was like in the first 20 minutes or so especially the very start of the movie I was like, oh boy. Because it starts with like the Sylvia Plath quote you know, remember, remember this is now and now and now and you're like, oh boy. And then we open in, you know, like 45,000 BC with cavemen making sparks and again you're like, ugh. All right. Obviously, if you're going to be invoking

[01:10:07] 2001 A Space Odyssey you got to be careful. That's the best science fiction film. So you're inviting quite a comparison there if you're going to be doing that. So obviously. So, you know, intensely. So you're starting with that and I'm and then you're going into these two other introducing us to these two other stories that Rashida Jones and Daveed Diggs and in the present day and she's a research scientist and they're flirting at college and then

[01:10:37] she's a doctoral candidate in anthropology she do bones and then Greg question mark from statistics. Oh, right. It's cute. Right. Two actors I like a lot. They are what is that face you're making? I'm trying to think what I like Rashida Jones in like of late. I like her in this movie but we'll get there. Yeah. She's alright in this movie. Sure. I mean, I found this movie just kind of inert. That was my like I was not like raging about this

[01:11:06] like oh my god this is but it just felt like low energy. I mean it's complete my thought then you're introduced to the middle and then you're introduced to Kate McKinnon in the future and she's on a spaceship and she's on a mission to like save humanity by taking all of these like new babies in a bag babies babies in a spaceship to a new home and I think for the first like 20-30 minutes you're just like wow this is like you said David this is very low energy

[01:11:36] this is very inert. It's cross cutting between all of them really quickly. Right and you're like you are taking me right into cross cutting between three stories and they all seem pretty boring. It's got a little bit of the Ahsoka thing of like it feels like the tone of this is quote unquote serious. Right? And I also think it's not even you know Cloud Atlas opens like this where you're weaving between all them really quickly as they're setting it up but Cloud Atlas has twice as many threads and they're further apart they're not as

[01:12:06] thematically linked in an apparent way from the get-go and then after the first like three or four minutes which is also more symphonic and stylized it settles down into like we will focus on one for time right and then go to the others to situate the first like 25 minutes of this just continue to just keep ribboning in a way where you're like the energy and the pacing are pretty low and slow well it's like you're gonna okay you've gone right into we're jumping between these but you never

[01:12:35] but you didn't first establish you don't feel like you have a grounding in them yes any of them and like right the prehistoric one is like you know it's nonverbal they speak in it's very much him doing like a hut but it's like a quest for fire you know it is it is actors in prosthetics yeah because they're Neanderthals so they you know or they're paleolithic people of some sort but well it's about

[01:13:04] the meeting of yes Cro-Magnon and yeah and right then there's the the present set graduate school section but I was gonna say I like both of these actors a lot it is an interesting casting choice to hire two people who are decades older than the characters they're playing yeah you know I was just watching The Wizard of the Kremlin the hottest movie of 2026 which is a movie where that begins with Paul Dano playing like his character when he's like 18 years old and he's like

[01:13:34] I'm at college and I was just like just don't show me this like I just I can't buy this and it's taking me out of the movie right away it's the Ellen McKay thing for me where I'm like Ellen McKay is a good recent example where I'm like as we know we're all teenagers right now and you're like okay but also it's like cast cast for the age the character is going to spend the majority of the movie this movie jumps ahead eventually we get to a point where Daveed Diggs and Rashida Jones are playing their own age but I'd say

[01:14:04] it's a pretty short chunk of the movie yeah because by that point the movie is moving along time wise quite fast and then it even goes beyond that to them with old age makeup so you're like you know 60% of their screen time is them in their 20s yes and they are 44 and 50 they are I mean look they're good looking people they're good looking people they've aged really well and I thought the graduate school but I didn't totally buy Rashida Jones like I'm just getting started in grad school there is with my bones

[01:14:33] I think what is actually pretty fucking effective CGI de-aging on the two of them that I noticed was very subtle and a lot of that is they're two people with very good genes who have aged very well but there is like an energy thing of you just feel the two of them playing 20 something in a way that feels a little school play at times it makes it confusing how much time is going correct it does because I couldn't really I'm like hearing you say she's in her 20s makes a lot more sense to me now

[01:15:02] well because also it's like you can obviously be in your mid 40s and go to graduate school so you watch it and you're like I'm not immediately rejecting that Regina Jones could be in this program but the longer it goes on you're sort of like I think she's supposed to be like 27 you know there's sort of context clues that develop and then there's the Kate McKinnon section which is right she is on a spaceship by herself with an AI friend it is the year 2417 right so it's like 400 years

[01:15:32] in the future and yeah she's got an AI that is pretty Roscoe pretty I would say like personable is not a how is actually like conversational and feels friendly and human in its tone its demeanor but she's basically in isolation it's a very kind of WALL-E setup of you're alone on a spaceship looking for the planet that is inhabitable where life could restart there's no like and this is

[01:16:02] deliberate but there's no like great tension to her mission because I believe they've identified the planet they know where she's going they're terraforming they're terraforming it they have a whole plan she's just got to get there it should be done by the time I get there but that's happening that's not my job yes she is dealing with a problem which is that something's gone wrong in the ship's systems but it's all played pretty all played pretty low key and they are also very

[01:16:31] they really drip out the information in a way that I actually kind of liked about like what her deal is I was going to say right the big mystery is like how is she alive and like because she's she's not going to go in hypersleep like how is she going to just the thing is though is like because they keep stressing like she's doing this for a hundred and blah years I've re-watched it and it flies over your head you re-watched this? well I'm saying I just skipped I skipped to see the intro of each character it says longevity

[01:17:00] enhanced pilot oh does it say that? I did not notice that I don't know I just I mean one of her first pieces of dialogue is something about like oh how many years do I have until we get there right and with the suggestion of the way she's saying it of like me you know not like my kids like me so you're like okay there's something going on with you with you I'm just gonna let's just say the thing right this movie is about humanity identifying basically the cure for death

[01:17:30] right like scientifically identifying the way to stop aging yes but not like you're immortal you will eventually she will yeah we see her getting old at the end you will eventually die you will age very slowly beyond right curing illnesses we have like identified a way to combat the gene that causes the degradation of of aging you know and to slow it down and everything works out crawl well well I mean so the movie is very

[01:17:59] sketchy about a lot of details and again in a way that I didn't entirely hate one of the things that is kind of left to our imagination unless I missed something is that she is doing this mission to find us a new home because our current home presumably earth is no longer habitable but what is left vague is did did that just happen naturally no I got the impression it was because people stopped dying and that created a huge overpopulation issue and that created like

[01:18:29] havoc yeah I mean like but they don't really get into it but she says like we decided that people should not actually stop aging like when she's talking to the kids about it it's definitely the most interesting scene in the movie I think everything about that scene I think McKinnon's good in this movie she is I think she's yeah she's she's yes yes she's up to the assignment there were moments with her when I was moved by like on I the first moment in the movie after it was kind of going by very glacially

[01:18:59] and I was like oh boy the first moment where I like locked in a little bit is when she has to turn off the AI her AI friend and she's like turns it off and then you know she's like you were my only friend and then is like sad about it and I don't know just because she played it so well I was like oh okay this is my I'm feeling something there I agree this is my biggest take with the film and I understand you know this whole movie generates from thinking about the big bang and the ripple of time and these story circles and you know

[01:19:28] all of that I'm like the whole movie should have been McKinnon I'm like this is the interesting story and actually the reveals that are interesting within her story are deflated somewhat by the other two narratives that's it you're right you're right because like the other two narratives just are pretty juiceless they are they just are they really are and they're you know they're little moments they're little flourishes and touches but when you actually step away from the movie and especially when it doesn't really connect all of its threads until the end and go like this is what's

[01:19:57] fucking been going on the whole time that fucking nut get out of here the nut the acorn get out of here some scratch-esque shit I would possibly get the nut out of here yes but you're just sort of like the whole interesting story is the Kate McKinnon thing and actually if you remove the other two narratives and you're slowly realizing what's going on with her the same doling out of information gradually but it not being supplanted by the other two that's the movie that feels like it has a little more intrigue to it

[01:20:26] I like this implication that it's basically like we're watching sort of the turning point of humanity the sort of notion of the two species and one outlived the other and this was the merging of them and this is sort of the missing link sort of moment and then Rashida Jones is trying to she has discovered the remnants of this missing link what's the character's name it's not Thork or Thog

[01:20:55] it's Thorn and Hera yes if you look on IMDB it's something I really like is Thorn is played by someone who is primarily like a stunt performer and a physical performer Jorge Vargas his photo on IMDB is just him as a Power Ranger his face is not even visible it's fucking awesome and Tania Beatty who's an actor it's an awesome picture he's like it's just a full body Power Ranger power ranging yes Tania Beatty is an actor

[01:21:25] I really like yes who plays the his wife but yeah you're seeing this sort of like this is where humanity kind of starts right then Rashida Jones has recovered the remnants of this guy and believes like this missing link might help us understand where we came from understand our own DNA more in a way that could lead to the breakthroughs of curing diseases this and that while this is happening

[01:21:55] her mother is dying rapidly from a very aggressive form of a terminal cancer she is starting this sort of relationship with Daveed Diggs who clearly is all in on her and she's kind of keeping him at arm's length A because she's so focused on her work and B because she's got the burden of caring for her mother and she's sort of like I don't know if I can take this on and you're watching this developing relationship where she's keeping him at a distance then she drops out of school to go be with her mother so the relationship is mostly happening over Zoom you know she's in isolation

[01:22:24] there and he's committed to her and eventually you know they he comes he moves in with her they get married they have kids and you realize that their son who they homeschool and they raise in the grand tradition of science is able to build on his parents work and what she studied to actually crack the code to cure death to cure death so the whole time of this of their story yes you're a part of you is wondering like what the hell is this because like nothing is happening yes and then you finally

[01:22:53] you finally get to when you get to the end you're like okay the idea the overarching idea he has like here is that she and she especially but and David are like they were just another little step the link in the chain along the chain and she has the moment can you believe we made him yes the guy who cures death there is something as as their relationship Rashida and David like as I gradually settled into I was like okay this is just

[01:23:23] what this is gonna be the whole movie this like very very quiet you know he's the most patient understanding gentle mostly over video calls which is kind of a crazy choice for a movie but as I settled into it I was like okay there are some nice moments there's a there's a very lovely moment where they're just sitting together on standing together on the phone silently while she's sitting by her mom in bed and it's a wordless scene and

[01:23:53] like there are little moments like that where you're like okay that was that was good is a very good visual storyteller and even in a movie like this that can't quite find itself there will be moments like that where something kind of interesting and specific is conveyed right and where you feel a sense of what he's going what they're going for with their dynamic of like they're so in love and like despite all these problems they have in the fight she has and like at one point she tries to break up with him it just kind of like doesn't come to anything because he's just like no like you love me I love you like we're gonna be

[01:24:23] together forever I think that's kind of fun where she's really trying to break up with him because she's just like this isn't fair to you it doesn't matter that I'm in love with you and then he starts laughing and he's like I got you to admit that you're in love with me speaks to the weird writing style of the movie that in that particular scene is kind of charming where it's like you think this is about to be a dramatic moment and then it's not because he's just like no enough of that the key thing here is kinda kinda kinda now let's say I just want to say something right now Jorge Vargas

[01:24:51] played Blake Bradley aka the Navy Thunder Ranger in Power Rangers Ninja Storm I'm glad you've been doing a deep dive on this while we and I talk about the movie who is the Blue Ranger but it's just funny how like at the start they're like yeah we got a Blue Ranger we got a Green Ranger and now they're like he's the Blue the Navy Thunder Ranger like so we have to have like kind of Land's End style colors descriptions yes but he's in 36 episodes hey like and it's

[01:25:20] him yes like his human face is seen too that's all uh I don't have any more do you want me to get more news for you on Ninja Storm Rangers no what I was gonna say is maybe I will anyway though if you remove the other two plot lines yes and just sort of unpack like this is what happens in the Kate McKinnon plot line right she is a woman who is on a spaceship by herself her only connection seems to be this AI robot and she's like holding on

[01:25:49] to hundreds thousands of embryos yes in bags right you grow them in bag that she is trying to protect while also having a sort of sunshine-esque green room to be able to provide oxygen for the ship there is a fungus breakout there is not gonna be enough oxygen for her to get to the planet that's being terraformed there's sort of the mystery of like why is this one woman in isolation carrying so many embryos to

[01:26:19] repopulate humanity by herself and uh you know you have this sort of I don't know a bit of a trolley car problem but not really of there's not enough oxygen to get her there she's like I should kill myself your AI you can handle the mission on your own all that's important is the embryos get to this planet and you can sort of activate everything and the AI sacrifices itself to be like you need a human being with like reasoning and feelings and the x

[01:26:48] factor of human experience you know it shouldn't be done by a machine and so the AI basically convinces Kate McKinn to deactivate it so that they can use the extra room to plant more to create a second supply of oxygen because they have to isolate to avoid the right like have a separate room with the plant life isolated so that it doesn't also get disease all of this is kind of like a run around where I was sort of like the fuck where are we going with this until the moment as you said where I

[01:27:17] think McKinnon plays really well the loss of like oh this was the only connection she had to something that even felt like humanity was speaking to this computer and now she's got to do the rest of this mission alone and she activates the one child that she can like raise and have a relationship with and she starts talking to her and then you realize like this is the last human being alive we like killed ourselves with overpopulation she is functionally if not literally immortal close to

[01:27:46] it and as she's raising this child she explains this thing what I think is the best scene in the movie that in both in terms of being well-performed and well-written but also the ideas of it being so interesting of we solved the thing that felt like the great tragedy of humanity our own mortality and in fact we realized this is not good it's not good not only did it just like fuck us up infrastructurally as a species but also like people shouldn't live this long it actually sucks it's a curse and it's a burden and we're restarting

[01:28:15] humanity you will age normally we're gonna go to a new planet we're gonna try to get it right and I'm the last freak alive trying to like reset everything it is important though that the company that did this to us is also the company that is now in charge of the ship right this is where the movie trips up and also is very like not built for our for this moment is that it has this lands in this very optimistic place you could argue about whether it's optimistic because of

[01:28:45] course the the happy ending that we see is preceded by like the collapse of civilization well you're like watching the sun's breakthrough as he gives the press conference to reveal that he's cured death at the same time as Kate McKinnon is basically explaining this was a mistake it fucked everything up and now we're trying to reset everything back to how it was you will age normally and so you have like Daveed Diggs and Rashida Jones being like can you believe it our son changed the world and Kate McKinnon being like the world's a

[01:29:15] nightmare and now I have to try to do a hard reboot right but then they're trying to the mood of the thing this is what you're saying is that this that is all at a disconnect from the mood the mood of the thing is very much like but we figure it out you know like we figure we realize we made a mistake and now we're pulling back and you know we figured out a new way and that's what you're seeing with this Kate McKinnon storyline and then alongside that also she has

[01:29:43] this lovely AI friend who is like really nice and like helps her with everything but and who and who the AI gives voice to like no humanity is the most important thing and like having you having your X factor of being a human that is most important thing more important than me and not to like place other things that are like going on in the world right now onto the but you do you can't avoid it and I'm just watching that scene I'm like well that's a little bullshit like that's not what that's

[01:30:11] not no like reflective of that is not what we're learning and seeing about how these technologies operate that's just you fantasizing no one's about like maybe one day it will be like that we have the opposite issue which is like AI convincing people to kill themselves not AI being like I should deactivate so humanity can persist right so I was just like it also I mean it's it's the whole like and and Stan was out I read an interview with him where they were asked about this and they were like it takes a very like

[01:30:40] optimistic view and his answer was just like well what else can you do but but but just have hope and have optimism and I was like well that's a lame answer I find his worldview really interesting in general because it feels like he is a guy and I relate to this really hard where he is like there is a constant fight between like an overriding cynicism and like an attempted optimism that he like doesn't want to drown in the cynicism even though it's his innate state and there is a sort of like sappy

[01:31:09] emotionality to him that he's a little bit embarrassed by right and I think that's a lot of like the toy story magic comes from that sensibility it feels like this movie puts the thumb down too hard on the optimism even when it's doing something that is a little bit ominous and it's trying to like create the friction between like well here's this amazing accomplishment in human existence that we have this breakthrough but also we're watching the business end of what was a mistake by it but then the

[01:31:37] optimism is but but they're gonna fix it eventually you're like so but that's why the end of the movie is really odd with like wow I can't believe we made him and I'm like history's greatest right like it seems like he maybe was this was a mistake and this was a curse and I'm like I sort of don't need to know about that guy it's more interesting to just spend time with Kate McKinnon the one person who's the representative of why this was a mistake you know and especially her doing that nice but it's also like fixing it interesting

[01:32:06] to me I also think I think like I there was a review I read at Sundance that was critiquing her casting and saying like her sort of what they described as her finger guns comic energy is an ill match for this movie and then I was like oh is she gonna be doing like Ghostbusters no not at all in this film no I think she's giving like a good dramatic performance but I think her being a little sedate like and it's like a medium high energy gives her more energy than any of the other performers in the movie even though she's playing it straight she has a

[01:32:36] little bit of that off-wire energy which I think helps I think it could have helped to have more of the casting be on those lines I think if you're gonna have a character in the future make him talk weird she loves shit like that too you mean like do a cloud atlas thing like the true true yeah come on she's kind of doing her like cowboy kind of you know Kate McKinnon sort of thing here's what I can tell you yeah ninja storm was the 10th okay this power ranger series uh-huh now the ones the one before

[01:33:04] was wild force which I guess they turned into like animals like lions and eagles and stuff and the one after a one we all know well is dino thunder where they were just like fuck it they're dinosaurs again I guess I don't know because the originals are kind of dinosaurs I ninja storm though they were ninjas ninjas I tell you there's a red ninja dinosaurs no just regular old ninja that's kind of interesting there's a more interesting

[01:33:34] and I was like do they have Zordon and it's like no they have a sensei who gets turned into a guinea pig so it's going into g-force territory sort of sounds possible I think there is a more interesting version of like passengers in this with her activating the one embryo so as not to be alone and go crazy and then I think I even really clocked if you're reading is right that that was a thing where she like was going against the mission or anything I thought that was just part of the mission that's the other part of it is like now she needs help because she

[01:34:03] doesn't write the AI I think that was someone else yes but then it's like she's forming this emotional relationship that wasn't part of the plan because she needs that and in raising a child now and actually like kind of being a mother in a way she wasn't supposed to be and this movie ends with a scene I think Kate McKinnon also performs well of like her holding the funeral for this child on the reborn earth and she has barely age you know she looks like five years older little and it's like

[01:34:31] crinkles in the year she succeeded in the mission but like her curse is that she also now has to like just to watch her kids die right and she's like it lived a long she wasn't really my child you know I'm not technically her mother more so than any of you but she's the one I felt the most connected to these are interesting heady ideas yeah I feel like the movie shies away from ever getting too emotional getting too kind of like worked up about any of it and so at the end I was kind of like okay

[01:34:59] okay it's just the one idea I like is yeah if we if we could live forever it would suck sure I'm it would cause a thousand problems my favorite show new Amsterdam when they collect Costa Waldo remember yeah of course he was old yes but young wasn't there also a different go on gruffet one where he was that one was where every time he dies he wakes up in the East River or something and he's still and it was called like eternal or forever right

[01:35:27] oh it was that he would like ground hug day but the next it was called forever it was called forever right I can tell you the day wouldn't reset he would just he would just like he's in the East River again so I guess it's a little being John Malkovich where they would just spit him out what I liked about New Amsterdam was like in the pilot he like meets with like an old man who's his son and he's the old man's like wow you really don't fucking age shooting he's like yeah it's my thing I'll have to solve a mystery because that's the best thing about all network

[01:35:57] shows they're like he's immortal fascinating and he solves mysteries everybody like don't worry he solves mysteries don't worry about it there's an engine yes yeah you know the ideas are interesting I just I also find the design a little bland of the spaceship and all that like where I'm just like it's just got this kind of vague Apple II yeah you know sort of look to it that is not very distinctive her clothes right like boring it was another thing I caught watching that movie Spaceman which Colby Day wrote

[01:36:27] has a very different look has a look like I found that movie also a little sleepy but like that that movie at least was very heady yeah looking I like that movie a lot I think rewatching WALL-E for the first time in a while it was interesting because that did feel new the whole visual design language of WALL-E both the sort of busted rusted old by and large stuff and then when you get to the axiom and making everything that

[01:36:55] Apple influenced you know it's a year before Star Trek which does the similar and a redesign of like the enterprise is now kind of Apple store coded and all of that now this is just sort of become the default language for what spaceships look like and it's not interesting to do and it feels like someone needs to like shake up the formula about the visuals of the movie nothing is bad the movie looks fine but it's all just very like default and all very I mean that is all really all kind of summed up by the fact that

[01:37:24] for a score they were like I know Stanton is where has worked with him before it's his number they were like call up Thomas Newman and have him deliver the same have him do the thing that you've heard a million times I've ever seen Quest for Fire or Clan of the Cave Bear that I recently watched Clan of the Cave Bear tell me about it because I'm trying to watch it's not very good okay I'm trying to watch every 1986 film

[01:37:51] for the big oh sure inevitable yeah and I got to this point where I was sort of like you know at this point I've probably seen most of the major films of 1986 but then I was like all right well what was nominated for an Oscar oh sure that I haven't seen yet the answer was one was Clan of the Cave Bear which got a makeup nomination it was a gigantic bomb that film a huge huge bomb it's Daryl Hannah plays a cave woman yes it's great stuff but coming off of

[01:38:21] Quest for Fire being a surprise hit exactly like we'll keep it with the caveman you've also I also watched Franco Zeffirelli's adaptation of the opera Othello which features Placido Domingo in makeup I was playing that one at work on my iPad and I was like I might have to turn this one off and I also watch Crimes of the Heart which got three Oscar nominations Bruce Bears for film fucking sucks what were they doing in the 80s Bruce was it's a

[01:38:51] weird career these based on a play yeah how does it go ahead how is any of what we're talking about right now how did we transition into a movie this movie has a bit of a clan of a cave bear okay all right Crimes of the Heart it's just a lot of southern bells going like oh my mama never loved me I lost the there was an 80s micro trend of we're gonna try to make caveman movie that are ostensibly a little more quote unquote accurate and no one's gonna talk and it's sort of like a dramatized

[01:39:20] nature documentary sort of vibe I mean sometimes this movie in a negative way feels like a 30-minute film you would watch at a planetarium or something yeah I mean a little bit right very very hard to do any version of that caveman thing that isn't that especially if you're gonna decide to be accurate about it like it's just there's hard to see them discover a whistle yeah and be

[01:39:48] like whoa yeah I don't with I don't care they should be do a caveman movie that's like Chris Nolan doing the Odyssey where they're just like hey what's up I'm Homer like you know daddy can I sorry one more tangent I just watched the movie whistle it's a horror movie came out February you blew the whistle that's what don't blow it great tagline that was the tagline that's actually really just like we're in a high school I'm jammed Daphne Keene from Logan I'm you know I'm a little got

[01:40:16] some drama I'm bisexual maybe blah blah blah what's this Aztec death whistle don't blow the fucking whistle like what if I blew it no don't do it I just love any movie where it's like there's a scary whistle and I'm like don't tell me someone blows it and they're like oh no they blow it all right yeah there is it was not very good quest for fire then leads to conquest iron master oh ice man and clan of the cave bear there were like five of them ice man wasn't about Bobby

[01:40:45] Drake not yet we were too afraid that's a Timothy Hutton Fred Skepsi movie of course the big two yes but that's that's more of an unfrozen figured out that I have a nervous tick where if anyone says two names on this podcast or three names I just say the big two immediately because I think it's always funny it's always funny yeah that was a he's Timothy Hutton following up the Oscar win is the caveman

[01:41:13] who discovers fire and then he is frozen and then he is revived it's like serious Encino man but it was there this was like a big trend for the era and these movies were popular quest for fire certainly was a very well regarded clan of the cave mayor was such a huge bomb and probably ended the whole thing trend I would say no one has really dared to touch this in 30 years it's a good point so this has caveman stuff yeah are have there been

[01:41:40] any other recent caveman dramas this I'm looking on Wikipedia the two recent ones they've mentioned are there's a French movie called AO the last hunter literally AO colon the last hunter and then there was the I forget which Hughes brother directed it Albert Hughes Alpha oh that's right McPhee and a wolf right for the listeners at home Joey and I just shared a

[01:42:07] look yeah knowing look yeah as you were don't forget the Croods this tangent oh sure and then they had a new awakening what was the Creed's sequel subtitle the January 6th the crude storm the capital no I don't know Cruz is one of those movies where it like a new age a new age it came out on drive-ins only in like 2020 August 20 they were like there's a Croods movie and Cuomo was like theater staying close it's opening for that the Croods a new age

[01:42:37] might have come close to Titanic's number of consecutive weeks at the top of the box office because it had like four months where nothing else was running like Florida's open right the Croods racked up another robust five thousand dollars to be number one at the box office this weekend yeah look in the blink of an eye I found the caveman stuff like unsuccessful I found it yes it's that was the least successful again as with a lot of the other elements as with the other three elements of the

[01:43:06] movie it like it gets to a thing right at the end yeah we're like where he's like where there's a baby that's been born right it's like oh it's a guy the dad is like oh he's like has this happy moment and then he dies and again it's hitting at that same idea of like he was just a link on the chain and it's like okay all right I get that's I get it and that's you know like the first man being born the first modern right but I'm like but you but that it was all for that I

[01:43:35] mean again I admire in a way the smallness of it I'm like you know this is not the type of screenplay that exists anymore in that in that sort of in that smallness but um our buddy bilga had a good review of this movie and he was sort of calling out like how much he admires the ambition of it but when you make a film like this you're like drawing those comparisons directly to 2001 which is a challenge like I said and he said like the other one this

[01:44:03] movie like really draws a line to is the tree of life in this sort of like you know the small interpersonal drama of today is linked to our origins as a species and whatever and there is something a little mathematical in the structure of this screenplay I'm down to just what I'm saying of like maybe this movie should just be all Kate McKinnon of like the need to have the prehistoric section be an equal third of

[01:44:31] the story it feels like a mistake to me where I'm like this could be three scenes and it's an interesting addition to the movie it doesn't need to have 30 minutes of screen time divided across the film because what's interesting about it can be conveyed very quickly and it's the same way that like tree of life is like you get one dinosaur scene and it kind of system where you're like whoa there's a dinosaur scene in a Terrence Malick movie but he's not like well the dinosaur is an equal lead with Brad Pitt

[01:45:01] and Sean Penn these are the three narrative strains of this movie more dino less there was actually even a moment early in the movie where our main I think he was our main like a guy from from the pillier times or whatever the Navy Ranger fucking Navy Thunder Ranger Navy Thunder he like he falls as he's climbing yeah and he like lands on a rock and it's like dunk and then it cuts away from him and I was like did he just die like was that the well because I thought for a second I was like was

[01:45:30] that like the point of that being in this movie was just like sometimes it's just like that you're a guy like you're living in you fall you dead that's it yeah but no he then he gets up he actually gets hit by a bus later in the script but they cut that I have to go to therapy we should play the box office game great and Lord knows I need you do yeah Tuesday therapy things have been changing this is crazy Griffin changes you gotta keep it on no it's a one-off thing no it's usually Thursday it's not like I'm playing fast and

[01:45:59] loose I yeah well the box office game of course this film did not actually premiere in theaters but we can still cover the box office of February 27th 2026 bad weekend a lot of theater closers because of the snowstorm I imagine was this the week after that uh this might be the week after that I

[01:46:27] can't remember who knows yeah what's important is that number one of the box office is a giant hit it is Wuthering Heights no oh fuck that came out on Valentine's Day of course it did no it stars your friend and mine Timothy hitmaker Simons I think he's the lead role I haven't seen it yet it's a sequel horror film it's scream seven you didn't see scream seven I didn't make the screening for reasons I can't remember but probably my boss was like you're not reviewing it so I was kind of like not that motivated and then

[01:46:56] the reviews are really bad and I just was kind of like I think I might be waiting for Paramount Plus on this one like because like I quite enjoy five and six I like the scream franchise but because this is actively rejecting five and six sure I wasn't too pulled in by like we've got Nev Campbell I'm like yeah I've seen her in a scream movie before like this isn't like oh she's been missing she wasn't in one of them well congrats on not being a scab yeah

[01:47:24] sure also fuck Timothy Simons no I'm kidding I assume isn't he like a professor and they throw him out a window or something I haven't seen it yet sounds good that sounds fun big hit did you see it Joey Sims no I felt the same as yeah as you and I was also like yeah fuck them who directed that oh Williamson direct yeah yeah also not an incredible size no number two at the box office number two at the box office is my daughter's favorite film of 20

[01:47:50] no oh go go they play roar ball I was thinking about the ball roar roar ball roar the isn't that the name of the the movie Tatum O'Neill movie where they live with where they were like there there were 10 to 12 why and mauling yeah most movies have a couple had like half his production was a wild success it only took five years and a minimum of

[01:48:17] three scalpings it's the most insane film I've ever made no I was thinking production ever made like is that the movie's weird it's weird yeah yeah it's weird yeah no the film is goat yeah Joey you didn't see goat made a hundred three million dollars domestic very very solid hit for Sony a movie I really enjoyed have seen it a few times I liked okay yeah okay he plays basketball you know he plays roar ball Joey it's very different it means that sometimes

[01:48:46] roar ball the court is ice and sometimes it's lava that is true number three at the box office a romantic drama adaptation of a novel is it the Colleen Hoover it's no no come on you just brought it you said it was number one it's called reminders of you no no come on you said Wuthering Heights sorry sorry sorry sorry a film that I quite like I do too and I our buddy Allison Moore yelled at has the exact take I have on the movie which is it's an adaptation of a 15 year old

[01:49:14] reading the book in high school I yeah I did you see I yeah I quite like that yeah I dug one like I kind of into the I have not stopped thinking about the shot where she goes back after her her awful dad dies and it like cuts to his like Mark is a man and his dead body in the chair and there's just like an insanely high pile of bottles of mdl of mdl alcohol I wonder what did him in you know it's hard to hard to tell what the movie is

[01:49:44] saying there no I was just like the excess of it I was just like hell yeah that's funny to me people like this movie's over the top I'm like yeah yeah it's going for that yeah that's sort of the idea no like you're you're in high school and you read a great book you know one of the one of the most important works of literature and it says like she walks in to find her father surrounded by bottles and you're like if you're 15 you imagine oh it's 8000 bottles there's a wall there's a bone temple about so what if number three

[01:50:12] sorry four at the box office new this week yeah is a concert film centered around a band I confess I didn't know this existed was this the BTS movie no no you didn't know this existed is it a band I would know by name this is a real band a real band possibly I think so they're famous is it a pop band no there are like a rock I don't know are they rock yeah alternative rock electro pop it's not imagine dragons no

[01:50:41] it's sort of like that I mean imagine them I'm trying to just pick what this is oh fuck I wish I don't think imagine dragons anyone said Ben Ben Ben what is this band what is it tell me what they are I don't I know their name but I don't actually know what the kind of music is wait I can't see oh for crying out loud come on Ben it's going over like what I don't know what their actual deal is I have no idea you just know I don't think I know right so the

[01:51:11] band is a 21 pilots that's very close to imagine dragon it is I agree with you I just don't really what is their vibe laughed at me so much for saying imagine dragons I was scared to guess 21 pilots should have guessed it a little bit more of a fun period the movie I'm concerned the movie is called 21 pilots more than we ever imagined okay it made 3.7 million dollars in its opening weekend I would describe their vibe that in your pipe imagine dragons I'd say they're very what's their song I don't

[01:51:39] know I just know that there's a band called 21 pilots that's that's where my knowledge and same and number five is another concert film sort of not not of a recent figure but a deceased figure is this epic epic Elvis Presley in concert an incredible title which I did not get to see but I was told was kind of rad yeah I've heard we'll cover on patreon whenever we do buzz buzz Lerman you've also got number six a movie that I wanted to love and thought was okay

[01:52:09] crime 101 oh sure I need to watch that fine 101 yeah that was your letterbox yeah it's pretty good probably did numbers here's a twist I'm gonna let you finish the episode okay you know what I'll see you later get out of here go away I'm gonna go I'll tell you the next I can only imagine two yeah what's that that's based on a song the guy wrote about his dad not being nice and this is the sequel where the songs are hit the dad's

[01:52:37] like I still don't know if I want to be a nice guy that's pretty good I'll check it out number eight Sam Raimi's great send help but you saw that I you saw that right that was great movie number nine how to make a killing the fairly bad a 24 Glenn Powell remake of kind hearts and cornets kind hearts and cornets and number 10 Zootopia 2 hanging out for its like fourth month highest grossing film in 2025 highest grossing film in 2025 yeah you've

[01:53:07] also got solo Mio their number 12 that's the Kevin James wants a wife movie griff's going to therapy he is going to therapy he's out of here Wow maybe Joey should take over what should we do a coup sure I mean I've done it before never happened I have left or because we went for you know four hours about fucking cabbage patch kids or whatever sure but I don't think Griffin's ever left before there was a time he threw up yes but he came back

[01:53:36] left threw up came back no he's normally the one who makes it too long makes it too long shows up late yes let's you know what let's hear some grievances talk about what else we got so this is kind of yeah a unique position we've never been here before yeah I have to see Mortal Kombat 2 in an hour I'm going later this evening but I'm I'm I'm very excited do you have work talking my brother no I'm I have a few hours I'm going to maybe try to hang out with Lane

[01:54:05] Lane Montgomery in front of the show composer of the theme song and prior past future guest your former roommate my former roommate and we've been looking for a time to grab like a late lunch so I'm gonna see but he may be he may have been held up at work it's unclear so no and then tonight I'm seeing giant on Broadway the play that's the role doll not so nice role doll anti-semi John Lithgow play excited that one do you sound

[01:54:33] excited that one in did he get the nom I'm excited to see him we love to see John Lithgow take on a big mammoth role on Broadway who doesn't the play from from what I've heard is I don't know I'm not that excited by this now but Trumpy Dumpty right so it is after the giant concludes then we all remain in the theater the doors are locked and John Lithgow reads the entirety of Trumpy Dumpty are you aware that Don Lithgow

[01:55:03] wrote a New York Times bestseller called Dumpty which was a series of comical nursery rhymes about Donald Trump then he wrote a sequel called Trumpy Dumpty wanted a crown and my guess in that one he turns around he says Trump not so bad but you're telling me he doubles down on how Trump is bad and then would you would it shock you to learn that there's a third book called a Confederacy of Dumpties who's that for what do you mean children they love John Lithgow's

[01:55:33] hectoring poetry and I think it's still he only needs to write one more which hopefully he's working on in between shows and then that's gonna that's gonna do it that then Trump will be like he got me he's rhyme I didn't think you'd do he's right he's spitting hot fire all right Joey just one more plug of course for your podcast yeah so my podcast thank you theater we saw which I don't know what episode will be on by the

[01:56:02] time this comes out you know as I'm talking about it it's very new it releases bi-weekly we talk about two shows each episode two new shows but maybe we'll do some fun episodes as I as I mentioned such as about the the pipe robbery at perfect crime and you have guests on occasionally we have cool guests on we just had Grace Walker who's great like theater tick tocker on

[01:56:29] we're gonna have more cool people on including non-theater people a big hope of ours going forward is to start having some people who are not like theater specific people but like comedians who are like who are into theater because many of them are whether they proudly admit it or or not so we're hopeful to have lots of different types of guests on and yeah it's fun give it a give it a listen there's a link in the

[01:56:56] episode description and wait this is also a first you have to take us out oh okay um yeah so in the blink of an eye uh listen to Joey's podcast next week on the show is toys toy story five course which at this point has already come out because the Stanton series premiered a little later but we have yet to see but I'm told there's an iPad so that's next week and then we will be starting our

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