Inland Empire with David Rees

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Some podcasts change. Well, they don't change, they reveal. They reveal themselves over time, you know?

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a low energy.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't want to do like brutal fucking podcasting, something like that.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think of like, it is true that even though Inland Empire has lots of dialogue, it's not like a movie where I'm like so quotable.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam! I kicked him straight in the podcast so hard they go crawling into his brain for a refuge.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He went down like a $2 whore.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Um...

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There are consequences to one's podcasts, and there certainly would be podcasts to wrong actions.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I have fucking bullet, whatever, who gives a shit?

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: What would you do, Sims?

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I would just do this.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I would just do brutal fucking podcasting.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, see, Ben's right. This is the right way to open with a quote for this movie is,

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: an eerie stare.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, can you do it for me? Thank you.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And with the teeth out.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The teeth.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing the, trying to do the teeth out.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And just imagine like holding a light bulb two inches below your chin.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Just blowing your face out.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You could say, hey, this feels just like dialogue from our podcast.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That is good.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: How many times have you seen this movie?

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Three times.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen it four times.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not a competition.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you kind of set it up like one.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: No, because I feel like our guest today.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The movies we've had you on for you're very particular, but when you come on, it has to

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: be kind of a totemic film.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: We always to me, it does doors wide open.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And there are other things we've kicked around that you've almost done, but it feels like

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: it has to be the right kind of thing.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also feel like despite the fact that you were a man who is very thorough, dare I

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: say can be obsessive within certain passions and interests.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a ceiling on how many times you watch a movie.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So even the movies that are the most impactful for you, I feel like you've never gone beyond

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: five.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that right?

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not really a big rewatcher.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: 28 days later episode.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you said that was the most you've ever watched.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was at five times.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my memory.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think I've seen, yeah, 28 days later, five times.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I don't think I've ever seen a movie six times, but I think there's multiple

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_05]: movies I've seen five times.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Not even as a kid, you wouldn't watch like, you know, whatever, some comedy.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we didn't have a VCR for a long time.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And you probably didn't have like cable.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: No, my parents did not pay for it.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So no control.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You're at the mercy of the network program.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Flipping around watching the same movies over and over again.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: There was no like going to see Star Wars six times in theaters.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_05]: No, that would have been an indulgence that would have been beyond my parents imagination.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_05]: But I wonder over the course of my life, have I seen Star Wars like all the way through

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_05]: five times?

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Possibly.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But then we're not talking about like, right, about that of like, yeah, through osmosis,

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: some movies are always playing.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: The intentionality, I guess, is what we're asking.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not talking about the person and being like, I'd like to see Star Wars again.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And they'd be them being like, you've already seen.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You've already seen it once.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_07]: We.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: The text is exhausted.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing more to see.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_05]: We budgeted that.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Like the outlay happened.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like we have Star Wars at home, except it was you have Star Wars in your memory.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it whenever you want.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we paid for it the first time.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So it goes in there.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I saw Inland Empire the first time I the first and third times I saw Inland Empire

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_05]: were two great, great experiences with movies.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, when I when I when we were talking about David Lynch and and you said, are you interested

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: in any of these?

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, I would do Inland Empire.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Part of what I was thinking was I have a memory of the first time I saw this movie as being

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_05]: so.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking great.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And since I agreed to do it, I was like, well, now I have to do my due diligence.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I should rewatch it.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen it since it came out in the theaters, the fabled third time.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And I saw it the second time.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, with friends, which was good.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And then the third time was.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I can't wait to talk about the third time.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_05]: The third time was really special.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And I related I related to the movie in a way that I've never related to another movie.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And for me, it took the movie to a whole new level where all of a sudden, like this is

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_05]: my this is my favorite thing David Lynch has ever done.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Then it's great that we have you here on what podcast?

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Blank Check with Griffin and David.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Griffin.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm David.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a podcast about filmographies, directors who have massive success early on in their careers

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and are given a series of blank checks to make whatever crazy passion projects they want.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Baby.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a miniseries on the films of David Lynch.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It is called Twin Pods Firecast with me.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But I should say it is a miniseries on the films and television series of David Lynch,

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: because today we are talking about to date his final theatrical film, his final feature film.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But this miniseries is obviously far from over.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, are you guys doing Twin Peaks?

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: The whole, all of it?

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It kind of can't not, you can't do David Lynch and not do Twin Peaks.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you doing one episode per episode?

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: We are doing six total episodes on Twin Peaks.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Plus Fire Walk with me.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So seven, I suppose.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You guys are doing a complete rewatch of the whole shebang.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That is correct.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_02]: First time watch.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: For me, first time watch.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And for Ben, for most of Twin Peaks.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: For most of them.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know what I have here, Griffin?

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll get to this.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, we'll get to that.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: But I have someone else's recollections of the first time they ever watched Twin Peaks.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_05]: When it aired.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So we can get into that.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: We can get into it.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: We should talk about that.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Compare notes.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, we are doing season one, season two.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And the return.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We're splitting the return into four episodes.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just quite a dense.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting because any other, I guess, look, when we did Wachowski and Cameron Crowe.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We did do their television shows.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The Wachowskis and Cameron Crowe.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And at those two miniseries, the most recent project they had done was TV.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And we did the seasons of their now largely forgotten TV shows.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we kind of went, we never want to do TV ever again.

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we made that a rule.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, the Wachowskis and Cameron Crowe hasn't made another thing.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But the Wachowskis did.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: This is such a bizarre example of like, with other people, we'd be like, well, the series

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: ends with Inland Empire.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: TV doesn't count.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, obviously, it's also, look, we did the Wachowskis and Cameron Crowe and they

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_02]: didn't even like direct every episode of, but obviously, when Peaks the Return is, you

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_02]: know, all directed by David Lynch.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He made it all as a giant project.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And it won an award at a film festival, right?

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Like at Venice or something.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They gave it to him or it was on Sound as best movie of the year.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But right.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Some people now try to sort of claim it as a movie.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I used to be very resistant to that.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that I know how he made it, I'm a little more open to it.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't quite make it his traditional television.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we're doing four episodes on The Return and one of them will obviously be entirely

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: devoted to whether or not it's okay to log it on Letterboxd.

[00:07:20] Right.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll spend a full episode litigating that.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an interesting conversation.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: People love that kind of film analysis.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you not put TV shows on Letterboxd or miniseries?

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Really?

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_05]: David.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_05]: What?

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a contentious topic amongst fidgety nerds.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're doing the bit now.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Largely you cannot.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: People are so annoying about this.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Largely, television is not on Letterboxd because it's quite unwieldy, but certain projects

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_02]: are.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Projects.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Such as Twin Peaks The Return that can...

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That's allowed to be on Letterboxd?

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, allowed is a funny...

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a, you know, if you can smush stuff into their database, then, you know, it's not

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like Letterboxd has total control over this.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: People still fight this with the urgency of like, Donald Trump is lowering the esteem

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: of the office.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: He is setting a precedent we will never be able to revert.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: If I cannot log Twin Peaks The Return 50 times on Letterboxd, you know, why am I...

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_05]: But Letterboxd is mostly for feature films.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It does...

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You can't like go and look up...

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, here's an interesting thing.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_05]: CSI New York on Letterboxd.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_05]: No.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like IMDB where everything...

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, got it.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But here's an interesting thing on Letterboxd.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot log Twin Peaks.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You can log Twin Peaks, the European cut of the pilot.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You can, which was sort of a theatrical release.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Northwest Passage is called.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: The pilot.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So usually there's that kind of delineation, but then short films are on there and TV movies

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: are on there.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And it starts to get slippery.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what we're talking about.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And you love Twin Peaks, but we're not here to discuss...

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Today we're talking about Inland Empire, his last feature film.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And as of the time we're recording this, there's been a lot of hand-wringing recently

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: about him saying that he, due to health, cannot be on set making a feature film away from

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: his home, which people took as a retirement notice.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he put out a press release saying, I am not retired.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I will never retire.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: The best press release ever.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And then lovingly described the experience of setting tobacco on fire.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Setting them on fire.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: In a way that made me want to spark up a butt.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We were texting.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is the best argument for cigarettes I've ever read.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They sound incredible.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's saying like, I have not touched a cigarette in two years.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I barely can leave my home if I take three steps.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I almost crumble.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't laugh, obviously.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the press release ended with the immortal sentence, I'm filled with happiness

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and I will never retire.

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's like so glorious.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But clearly, you know, he may not make a traditional feature film again.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He's 78 years old and he does have emphysema and who knows what the picture holds for David Lynch.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's congratulate Ben Hosley on quitting smoking, by the way.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw Ben hovering around the mic.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That press release hit you hard.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It did.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It was hard to read because here's the thing.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a terrible habit, but damn, is it fucking cool.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you imagine how many cigarettes he smoked?

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's like no one makes it look cooler than when it was like David Lynch's emphysema.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's not that's like saying like the sky is like I've never not seen a picture of that man.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's always smoking.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Have any of you watched that David Lynch, the art life documentary?

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw that.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There's the I believe the opening credits play out over a static like three minute shot of him just like lovingly smoking a cigarette while sitting back and looking at the painting.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that the that he just finished?

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, right.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the fundamental image of him as a guy.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that the thing where he I was thinking about this when I was thinking about Inland Empire?

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: He's he's he's like, if you want to know if a work of art is finished, you take a stick and you tie a ball to the stick on a piece of string and you point it at the painting.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: The stick will tell you if the painting is finished and then he does it and you just want.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that what you're talking about?

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: That thing?

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I know I've seen a video of that.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it in that thing or is that just another?

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: There's also many of these making rice.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what he's making or?

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fried egg or something like, you know.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Is this cooking videos?

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Look, he's the king of content.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The man's been putting out 10.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been pitching 10 for decades.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Our guest today returning to the show from going deep with David Rees, a show I mistitled recently in an episode.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, really?

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I combined it with how to with John Wilson.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll take it.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I need all the help I can get.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: How was it?

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: His was a hit show.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Is is I have to ask this every time you're on the show.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it streaming?

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it back anywhere?

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Do we know?

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you can watch.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you can watch some of it on Amazon.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And some of it on YouTube.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: David Rees.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And Dicktown starring Griffin.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and starring David Rees and John Hodge.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Season one is on YouTube for sure.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Not sure about season two.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: David Rees is here.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Hi, David.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: How are you doing?

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm good.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_05]: It's nice to be in.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It's nice to be face to face with all you guys in the room.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And after almost two years.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: More.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Last time was his wedding.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But not seeing you in person.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been two years.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought you were saying.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Season two is on Amazon.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all on Amazon.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Purchasable.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Episode in person, I believe, has been five years.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that possible?

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the last time we did one, I was on a Zoom.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's been a long time.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It has.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I like your mustache.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what?

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I was shaving and I was like trimming around and I decided to keep the stache and I was

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: like, the test of this is going to be if Rees approves.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That was my thought.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, if this works with David, I'm holding onto it for a bit.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And if he doesn't like it or he doesn't mention it, gone.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm into it.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm into it.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So the last one you did in person with us, was it Spirited Away?

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And you were in a different studio than I remember.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_05]: You were in Manhattan.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And since then, right, you've come on for 28 Days Later and something else, right?

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of episodes that almost happened.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't if we want to fucking crack open the books.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Mammy Vice was a thought.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: You were going to do one of the Buster Keaton episodes.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But then we then you wanted 28 Days Later.

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So we right.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I live kind of near Buster Keaton's old studios.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And you love that guy.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I do.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So do I.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So do I.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Nah, you don't think he's so great.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you weren't into him?

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_02]: No, he spirited us doing Buster Keaton.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a huge fan.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm fascinated that, yeah, you had only seen this once.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It had a massive impact on you.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then in your two revisits in prep for the podcast, it grew.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So the first time, yeah.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So I brought a couple documents with.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Carefully organized.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Classic, David.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: A couple documents, big notebook filled with notes.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I got to show up with all my paperwork.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: To be clear.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like an evidence layout.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like when they take all the knives out of the Joker's pocket.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Exhibit A.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_05]: This movie is weird.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the proof.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Now you say you were at the bodega at 5.30 PM.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're saying?

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So I have three documents.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I'll, why don't I list the documents and you tell me in which order you would like me to

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_05]: present my case.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Fantastic.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_05]: The first is a green spiral notebook filled with, I guess, six pages of, of sloppy notes

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: that represent my reaction and recording of the second time.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I watched Inland Empire.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And what was that?

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you, can we tie that?

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_05]: That was last week.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, last week was the second time?

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Second and third times.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I watched it for a second time.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And then among my friends, a particular decision was made.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And then two days later, we watched it for a third and transcendent time.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You hadn't seen it before.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched it last night for the first time.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the one you've ever seen.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Exhibit B is, uh, so I re, so I saw, I saw it when it was released theatrically in North

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Carolina.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I was in Chapel Hill in the spring of 2007.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I think technically it came out in 2006.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It came out December 06, but a slow, small release.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So I saw it on, I have the date.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw it on the 10th of March, 2007 at the Carolina Theater in Durham.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: A day after my sister's ninth birthday.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_05]: The Carolina Theater is a grand old theater.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's gorgeous.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was the perfect place to see this movie because it was like 10% capacity.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it felt like-

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like you're at Club Silencio.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I went in absolutely cold.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's one of my favorite memories of going into a movie absolutely cold.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: All I knew was David Lynch had a new movie out.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd seen Mulholland Drive.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_05]: You probably seen it.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably once in the theater and once on VHS or DVD.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I like David Lynch.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: As Exhibit C will point out, I will prove, I beg your pardon, I have a longstanding relationship

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_05]: with David Lynch.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I almost feel like we lead with Exhibit C because it feels like that's the earliest point-

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you want to go chronological?

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_05]: In the timeline?

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Exhibit B, forget I- okay.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we often ask our guests, what's your history with X, with this artist or connor

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever?

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, what's your history with Miss David Lynch?

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Exhibit A, renumbered.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Whoa!

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Holy shit!

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Juries cheating their pants.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Objection!

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Objection!

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Approach the pitch!

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_05]: The court will come to order.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, fellas, I'm about to set it off with Exhibit A.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the May 18th, 1990 edition of The Proconian, the official newspaper of Chapel Hill

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_05]: School.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow!

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say also perfectly preserved.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It is called The Proconian because it discusses the pros and cons of life at Chapel Hill High.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay?

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a good fucking name.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Why isn't every year's paper?

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Since 1931.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It goes way back.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're allowed to be like, hey, I got a con this week.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like doing homework.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Can we get that on the front page?

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, that's kind of a regular column.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a revolving door of who takes the mantle.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, on the front page, one of my buddies, Matt, he wrote an article about how the Chapel Hill High School counseling department was encouraging students to limit their college entrance attempts to five.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_05]: They wanted to cap the number of colleges you apply to.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And the article goes on to say, like, that was really good.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I reread this whole issue the other night because I hadn't thought it, you know, I haven't thought about this in what, 34 years?

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you kept every issue from your years there?

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, Griffin, I kept every issue in which I was the movie critic for The Proconian.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: So what's the, can you tell me the year again?

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. Yeah.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It's 1990.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is spring of my senior year of high school.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Senior year in high school.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_05]: The Proconian's a daily newspaper, right?

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys were.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Twice daily.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a morning and evening edition.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Morning and 8pm edition.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's still on paper.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it was every Friday, I think.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a weekly paper.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty bad.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Weekly is for high school paper pretty impressive.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's nice also to give you the weekend to sort of really sit with it.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Digest everything.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Totally.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So I had an entertainment column.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It was called the three bean salad of entertainment.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_05]: The three beans of the salad were movies, TV shows and music.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Those were three of my interests.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_05]: The three great beans of society.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And like every fucking know it all high school boy, I just used this platform to announce

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_05]: hyperbolic justifications for why the Minutemen are the best band that has ever existed or

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, whatever, just justify all my tastes.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you have an editor?

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Like how much control?

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the editor was my high school girlfriend.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So I actually had quite a bit of leeway.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_05]: This sounds like this go Friday or whatever.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_05]: This is some antics.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Now what's interesting about this edition is that I like-

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: No, they yell a lot.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Remember when, um, remember, so remember on Spirited Away when I brought in like one

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: of my favorite pieces of criticism-

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Nigel Andrews.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Six out of five stars.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_05]: In the history of the park.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And you checked with him and he maintains his six stars.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Just such a great, such a great, um, also it's another well-preserved piece of newspaper

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: criticism.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the wonderful thing you'll remember is that that was six out of five stars.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, now when I paid close attention to page 10 of the Perkanian, where the, where the

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_05]: column title is, it doesn't say three bean salad of entertainment.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It says four bean salad of entertainment.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and then the column begins as Burger King says, sometimes you got to break the rules.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So I broke a few-

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Did Burger King say that?

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Was that the thing?

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was a thing back in the nineties.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So I broke a few, I broke a few rules, ordered a Whopper and change the name of my column.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: What is the fourth bean?

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Because now of course it used to be the three bean salad of entertainment, but now there's

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_05]: a fourth bean, right?

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So like Nigel Andrews, unknowingly, of course, I was like, let me acknowledge upfront what

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: you're all thinking, which is what happened to the three bean salad of entertainment?

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Why is it now a four bean salad of entertainment?

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_05]: We've all gotten used to that.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's also, we've all committed to a prism through which we understand.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_05]: What the fourth bean was this week.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I decided to review all the comics in the Chapel Hill newspaper.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so I added them as a fourth bean.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_05]: The fourth bean is, is, um, the funny pages.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_05]: The funny pages.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Your newspaper take on Curtis or whatever.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Prince Valiant, two stars.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_05]: The born loser, 4.5 stars.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy, 0.6 stars.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, you just bodied Kathy out of the room.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: What?

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy's funny.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_05]: She likes chocolate.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to hear my review?

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm, I haven't looked at Kathy in a long time and you have to remember I was

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_05]: a high school boy and I was a total asshole.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So it was probably some misogyny, but here's the review of Kathy.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy by Kathy.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_05]: How do you pronounce her last name?

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Geist White.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Geist White.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I gave it 0.6 stars.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It says, oh my.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's the basic Kathy strip.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Panel one.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy sits behind her desk.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Panel two.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: She says, so you're doing.

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't looked at this panel too.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_05]: She says, it's so awful.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Panel two.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_05]: She says, I don't look good in a bathing suit.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Panel three.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Mass hysteria.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy yells.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, panel for Kathy looks guilty.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Lines of exasperation shoot from her head.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy says, I need chocolate there.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you never have to read the stupid strip again.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_05]: What an asshole.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, but I mean that, you know, that reflects my sense, you know, where I was, where I was

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: at the time.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That was where America was on Kathy.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Kathy blazed a lot of trails.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very pro Kathy.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like the lights, camera, Jackson, a girl's trip review.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What was he?

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: What happened with him?

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't that.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: What was the one where a book smart.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We said my, my grandmother always said, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: say anything at all.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And they just stares down the camera for a minute in silence.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: What was your favorite funny page?

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Like what gets the highest?

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, snuffy Smith.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Snuffy Smith.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_05]: That's by Fred Laswell.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm aware of five stars.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I think of stuffy Smith.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the sort of gasoline inhaling, like absolute nonsense where it's like Barney

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Google is a little too erudite for people.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: We need a yokel character to kind of like bring the lab.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you, what was the case for stuffy Smith?

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Snuffy Smith, the art, especially the Sunday pages, the art was beautiful.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Snuffy Smith is kind of a cool style.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It looked really, really good.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_05]: It was just silly.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was like one of those things when you're in high school and I think it was,

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it was a deliberate decision, but it's like you and your friends are like,

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_05]: let's all get really into snuffy and say, this is the best cartoon.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And that'll be our thing.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, we're the snuffy Smith gang.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really sorry to do this.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I know this is a big dense movie.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I just have to know what other funny pages you reviewed.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Just, just the names.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all right.

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to see if any of the others I want to hear.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll run through all the, all the, I'll give you the titles and the stars.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll do that.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Prince Valiant, two stars, Frank and Ernest, four stars out outland one star, the phantom

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_05]: 3.6 stars, uh, Calvin and Hobbes, four stars, the born loser 4.5 stars.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Kathy point six stars, the far side 3.4 stars, the family circus 2.5 stars.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_05]: According to Guinness 3.7 stars, peanuts 4.6 stars, snuffy Smith five stars.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're putting snuffy Smith over peanuts and Calvin and Hobbes.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You're being a bit of a high school contrarian.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I was a high school.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I know at that point, I had a whole page every week where I could just do whatever I want.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's like, I mean, wait till I read this fucking review of twin peaks.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you think this is bad, this is queuing up him reviewing twin peaks.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, we've already established it's a dense movie.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We have to talk about.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't even gotten to the twin peaks thing.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to read quickly a snuffy Smith script.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: A strip.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like recent?

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's from 86.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, cause I believe got Barney Google and snuffy Smith still runs and you read it and

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like, who on earth even knows what this is about?

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, like what this is the original strip, I think was from the early 20th century.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the longest running.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_05]: And Fred last, right.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And Barney Google is gone.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he hasn't been a part of it in like a hundred years.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's literally still called though, Barney Google and snuffy Smith.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I wonder.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but okay.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well read, please read me a snuffy.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It should be from 06.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a hard time reading the handwriting on the date on it, but it's a, they're playing

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: poker, uh, snuffy and his friend.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I, excuse me.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the character's name.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says balls of fire snuffy.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of all your cheating.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Put up your dukes, your spelled Y O R.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's only a two panel strip.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Snuffy Smith is usually two panels.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I'm starting to know.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm starting to see David's case here, which is there's a cleanness to it.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so clean.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so freaking clean.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like ammonia.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So balls of fire snuffy.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of all your harmful.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Put up your dukes, right?

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Toxic.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then second panel snuffy has dropped the cards and he's holding up to penance pendants.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say JMU.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He's putting up his dukes.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so bad.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think more literary.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's like more referential.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Can I read you today's snuffy?

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Are they still making snuffy?

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: We have to talk about the movie after we talk about 20.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Snuffy is talking to, I think his friend is called doc.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Why should snuffy says, why should one feller get to decide everything?

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: David's making a choice in the voice.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And doc says, hmm, you know, you're right.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Snuffy.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Panel two.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Doc is flipping three coins in the air and saying, I'll flip Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good comment.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I will defend that one.

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That's good.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't really get it.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I really get it.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's yeah.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like the logic of snuffy saying, I don't like how one person decides everything,

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think stuff.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to talk about like executive power could be.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And doc is interpreting it as like the coin.

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually kind of awesome.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The president on the coin is kind of making the call.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to flip three coins.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't know how flipping three coins is really going to help him make any decisions

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: is the only thing I'll say.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, sure.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But if there were a sense of closure, then this trip would end.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There has to be a yearning.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: There has to be something unresolved.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Snuffy.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_02]: John Rose is the current.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Fred Laswell must be long, long retired, if not deceased.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, it's just really funny that you put snuffy on top.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Back to the prick on hand and for.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: John Rose has been doing it since 1998.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_02]: 12 years old.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So in the same, the same issue of the prick on Ian, I reviewed Twin Peaks, which was airing

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: at the time.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_05]: This I have reread.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a, it's a tough read.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this really.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Reading your high school, right?

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a precedent for it on this podcast and you couldn't come off worse than I did.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So please proceed.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to read all of this review.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I will just read the thing that I remember being so proud of when I wrote it.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe David Lynch recovered from this cutting.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, remark.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_05]: The critic says, I don't like Twin Peaks.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: It moves too slowly for television.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It's pretentious to the point of being overtly obnoxious.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Director David Lynch has not changed the face of television for the 1990s.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: He's just made a tired genre more surreal.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_05]: That's no great feat.

[00:27:26] Yeah.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I see.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were going to be like, hey guys, check out this crazy show on ABC Twin Peaks.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But you're like, no, no, no.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I was like storm is, uh, you know, a little Armin White up in here.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, everyone's talking about this great show.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It actually is kind of boring and weird.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The unlost masses are falling for it.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: With your snuffy Smith is actually the best.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Some contrary.

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like where you're like the common man, the simple tails, you know, but, but what's interesting

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: and I had forgotten about until I reread this review was at the time I had seen Eraserhead

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_05]: because so what I say is, um, oh God.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I talk about some other stuff and then I say Eraserhead is weird and it represents Lynch

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: at his best.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Eraserhead is actually extremely bizarre.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Hot take.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And has some of the more disturbing images in the history of American film.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're like Twin Peaks 2 sanded down.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But the weirdness in Eraserhead is not without purpose.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a twisted sort of symbolism and makes the film agonizingly personal.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Twin Peaks is not very personal.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05]: It's actually quite alienating.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, can I, I had seen Eraserhead.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know when in the arc of Twin Peaks this review came out?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how much of the show were you commenting on?

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if it's spring of 1990, I think it was probably within the first few weeks.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember when it actually.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The first season is eight episodes that started late.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was like March to May or March to April or something.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_05]: That sounds right.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just curious if you're like reviewing the pilot or if you're.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably the pilot and maybe one other episode.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I honestly don't remember.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But I know I watched it.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I would have, I would have actually watched an episode.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_05]: The only time I, the only, the only time I behaved unethically as a, as a column, entertainment

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_05]: columnist was I actually reviewed a GWAR concert before I went to it because we had to get the thing into press and GWAR was playing that night.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But I had seen GWAR so many times.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I know what's going to happen.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So I just reviewed it before actually seeing that particular.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:28] Yeah.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I, I, a little different from a long running.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I tried to just talk about embarrassing high school newspaper things.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause there's definitely enough, no like history of you saying like stuff on mic or in paper.

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So were you a high school movie critic?

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I, I had a, I had a column called Griffin's top five.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That was, it was usually more of a, it was a humor piece.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a, I'd come up with a weird top five list.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh huh.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was top 10.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was top 10.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was top 10.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but there was, they would, I feel like at the end of the year, they'd ask a couple people to do end of your movie list and you'd have like four competing ones.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: On the page.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't the regular movie critic.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I see.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and you wanted to put on that sex tape and they wouldn't let you.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, Lucretia Martel's the holy girl at number three, Paris Hilton sex tape, number 10, I believe was my original list.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And they wisely said, uh, absolutely not.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: David.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: 2024 year of our Lord.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You saw Conclave.

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[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a rollicking good time.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We had a lot of glossy grown up thriller.

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[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: As our friend John Hodgman said a great movie about doors.

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[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And a movie with an incredibly normal ending you need to see for yourself.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that fair to say?

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But November has lots of big movies, Griff.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Validator 2.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You've seen?

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Wicked.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I have seen Validator 2.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of fun.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Denzel Washington having a ball.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in it.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I hear he kind of just disappears into the tapestry.

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Moana 2, right?

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[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, David Lynch, great American artist.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: So you didn't like Twin Peaks as a young man.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you come around on Twin Peaks or on David Lynch generally?

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think before the Showtime thing started, I think I rewatched all of season one.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I've ever seen all of season two of Twin Peaks.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I just bailed at some point.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It feels like everyone does.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben and I are currently working through it.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I did the same thing with season two.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_06]: There is the certain point, I think, where we all kind of drop off with certain.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's because he wasn't as involved in it or something, or the other guy wasn't

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_05]: involved or something like that.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone was a little less involved and it was a little more chaotic.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's much to love about season two, but it's hard to feel motivated to watch

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: it, especially before knowing that the return is coming.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's kind of like, well, I know this didn't really get to, you know, kind of resolve

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: itself artistically, like blah, blah, blah.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But it is worth watching season two if you ever have the time to get to the final episode,

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: which is quite amazing.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I have watched the final episode.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I think a lot of people just skipped ahead.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I think a lot of people just skipped ahead.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is understandable.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And I've never seen the Twin Peaks movie Fire Walk With Me.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, interesting.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it's quite good.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I've heard that.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But I have watched The Return and that was a really special experience.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you feel like Fire Walk With Me?

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that the only Lynch movie you haven't seen possibly?

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I haven't seen a number of them, I realized, coming over here.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen The Elephant Man.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_05]: My favorite.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I think when I was a kid, I think, I think when I was a kid, The Elephant Man was always

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_05]: on HBO.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I could be misremembering.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't want to say like, oh, I watched it like through osmosis, but I think it presented

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: as so heavy and intimidating.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: That childhood David.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Couldn't handle it.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he was just like, uh, that's, I'll never be grown up enough to watch The Elephant

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Man.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It's in black and white.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Like what?

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So I've never seen that.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And I, and I've never seen the straight story.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I would, you would, I think you would really like the straight story.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Really?

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to, I mean, I'm excited to watch it.

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You can watch it on Disney Plus if you have Disney Plus.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh really?

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think, I think I've seen all the other ones.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw Eraserhead in middle school

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_05]: because

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I had this great book

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_05]: it was called Cult Movies by Danny Perry

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_05]: have you guys ever heard of that book?

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_05]: he published three of them

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and in the 80s

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_05]: if you wanted to know about weird movies

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_05]: he published these three collections of his

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_05]: idiosyncratic personal essays

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_05]: and reviews of cult movies

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and it turned me on to a lot of amazing movies

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and he wrote about Eraserhead

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_05]: and included some stills in the essay

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I think there's a photo of the baby

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_05]: and my friends and I are like

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_05]: well we definitely gotta see this movie

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and also at the time in the 80s

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I lived in a college town

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_05]: so like I think at the record store

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I think they had Eraserhead posters

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_05]: you know the iconic image of

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_05]: what's his name with the hair backlit

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think it was like an image

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like it had a currency

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_05]: we talked about that

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_01]: in our Eraserhead episode

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: that it's just like

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're someone who's kind of trying to find the subculture

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: in any way

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah right

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in art

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: that's just an image that somehow gets exposed to you at a young age

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember having

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I had an Entertainment Weekly issue

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: that I want to say was from

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: 02 or 03

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: that was like their definitive ranking

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: of the top 25 cult movies of all time

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and I probably kept that issue for 15 years

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah it's like those books I had

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah the cult movie books

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: right but like to get that issue

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_01]: when I was in high school

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and be like

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: well here's the guide

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: if I watch these 25 movies

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_05]: totally

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I have some sense of like

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_01]: the weird corners of film

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and then I can go deeper from there

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: in each direction

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: how am I gonna get a copy of El Topo

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and watch it

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: because that sounds really crazy

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah when a lot of this stuff felt

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Superstar the Karen Carpenter story

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: was on that list

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: oh wow

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: right yeah

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and they mention in the write up

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: you can't watch this

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: you can't watch it

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: makes you want to watch it

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: at the time that I was doing

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_05]: all this cult movie research

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_05]: remember there was no

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_05]: there were no DVDs

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: there was obviously no streaming

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: it was just like VHS

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_05]: like and maybe they'll have it

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe they won't

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: so Eraserhead was something

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_05]: that we really wanted to see

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and I remember like

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: we had a slumber party

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_05]: we got it

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_05]: tonight is Eraserhead night

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and then we watched it

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and it was great

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it is to me

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_02]: the definitive cult movie

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: so aside from your

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: distaste at the time

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: for Twin Peaks

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah well you just got it

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you know you saw through the

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: through the fog

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw through Society's Lies

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: you were otherwise

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty in the bag for lunch

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it sounds like

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_05]: well I think

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_05]: for years

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean I only knew him

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_05]: from Eraserhead

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_05]: like I don't think

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw Wild at Heart

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_05]: until I was in my 20s

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_05]: you probably didn't see

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Lost Highway

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_05]: when I only saw

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Lost Highway last year

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_05]: when it was in Revival

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_05]: pretty good right

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw it

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: pretty good

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and Mulholland Drive

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw in the theater

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_05]: when it came out

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_05]: and then maybe once or twice

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_05]: afterwards on DVD

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_05]: or something

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_05]: so let's take you to

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and Dune

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and Dune I never saw

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_05]: just check it out

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Hodgman has let you

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_05]: get away with that

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_05]: well he summarized it

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_05]: for me like 50 times

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: but

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember once

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_05]: we were on tour

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: and we were at a

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_05]: we were performing

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_05]: in Alabama

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_05]: in this great venue

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_05]: called The Bottle Tree

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_05]: doesn't exist anymore

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and when it was over

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and we were hanging out

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_05]: at the bar

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_05]: they were playing

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_05]: David Lynch's Dune

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_05]: in the background

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and it was just like

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_05]: someone struggle

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: as much as like

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_05]: John trying to be sociable

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_05]: and talk to other people

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_05]: while also just like

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_05]: his eyes are fucking

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_05]: fixated on the

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_05]: 80 times

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah exactly

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_05]: but I've never seen that either

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_05]: because it just looks like

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know man

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_05]: okay so when

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: when you walk into

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Inland Empire

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in Chapel Hill

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: in 2007

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: in 2007

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you're not like

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: David Lynch is my god

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessive

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm encyclopedic

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he's made a couple things

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that you love deeply

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I really really liked

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Mulholland Drive

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think that is like

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_05]: he was just in the pocket

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_05]: on that one

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_05]: like he was in the sweet spot

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_05]: there's just moments

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_05]: there's moments in that movie

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_05]: that are just so affecting

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: just like

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I think

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I think one

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the thing

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I think one thing

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_05]: that David Lynch

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: does better than anyone

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_05]: he does it

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_05]: in the final scene

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_05]: of

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Twin Peaks The Return

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_05]: he does it with

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Naomi Watts

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_05]: masturbating

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: in Mulholland Drive

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and he does it

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_05]: in Inland Empire

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_05]: is a sense of

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_05]: almost just like

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_05]: cosmic

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_05]: desolation

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_05]: yes

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_05]: just an

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_05]: utter

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_02]: reduced to rubble

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: someone who has been

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: reduced

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: a hollow feeling

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that is so

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_05]: haunting

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_05]: like it woke

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_05]: like when we finished

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_05]: watching The Return

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_05]: like it woke me up

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that night

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that when that

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_05]: that shot of him

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_05]: where he's like

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_05]: what's the line

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_05]: what year is this

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: against an absolutely

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_05]: black sky

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_05]: they must have

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_05]: CG'd the sky

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: to make it just

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: totally matte black

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and the same

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_05]: with Naomi Watts

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_05]: in Mulholland Drive

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_05]: when it's like

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_05]: you're back in reality

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and the brick

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: she's masturbating

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and that brick wall

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: is like

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_05]: going in and out

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_05]: of focus

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_05]: or whatever it is

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_05]: it's just like

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I think

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that's really rude

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because I usually

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_02]: jerk off to walls

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: well they have

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: the right curves

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: if it's that kind

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: of like

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: what is it

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: almost like a stucco

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of thing

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_05]: it's um

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_05]: so good at that

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's also

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_05]: a feeling that

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: anyway

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_05]: so when I went

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_05]: to see Endland Empire

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I like David Lynch

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: um

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_05]: you're not there

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_05]: with two like

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_05]: flags being like

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: no no

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_05]: David Lynch

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_05]: has a new movie out

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_05]: a movie at the Carolina

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: it's supposed to be

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: a great theater

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll go see

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll go check it out

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and what's interesting

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_05]: is when we get

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_05]: to exhibit B

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_05]: one I mean

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_05]: one of the reasons

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_05]: that this memory

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_05]: is so special for me

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_05]: is that I remember it

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_05]: in the context

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_05]: of thinking

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_05]: that was a great year

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_05]: for me going to the movies

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_05]: 2007

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah we were talking

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: about this

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: it's nuts

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: because this

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: this falls into 2007

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: 2007 thought of

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_01]: as sort of like

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: a high watermark

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: a big year

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's kind of a second

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: 1999

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: of a lot of major

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: young American auteurs

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_05]: so exhibit B

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_05]: is a printout

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_05]: of my Excel spreadsheet

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_05]: that I kept

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_05]: for tax purposes

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I was a freelancer

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_05]: so seeing movies

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_05]: was a tax write-off

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_05]: according to my accountant

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_05]: so I have

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_05]: like over 20 years

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_05]: of just like

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_05]: all the movies

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_05]: that I paid money for

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: it's crazy

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_05]: if you like

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_05]: specifically I realize

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: if you like

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_05]: bro-y

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_05]: elevated genre movies

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: that end

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: with an unresolved

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: crappy feeling

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_05]: this is your year

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_05]: it's so true

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_05]: children of men

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: yes

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: the departed

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_05]: some of these

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: are late 2006

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: that you've seen

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: early 7

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to clarify

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: yep

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_01]: yep

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: the freaking

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: because you have

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: there will be blood

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and no country

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: at the end of the year

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: yep

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: you have

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: freaking Zodiac

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Michael Clayton

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Eastern Promises

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: the feeling you're talking about

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_02]: is present

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: in all

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Gone Baby Gone

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_05]: which actually

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I rewatched recently

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: when I was looking

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: at this spreadsheet

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_05]: it got me so psyched

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_05]: for Gone Baby Gone

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I rewatched

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and that might be

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: getting up towards

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: five times

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_05]: wow

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I freaking

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_05]: love Gone Baby Gone

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's so good

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_05]: some of the sequences

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_05]: are so exciting

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Casey Affleck

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_05]: is fucking

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_05]: mesmerizing

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_05]: in that movie

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_05]: he is

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_05]: before the devil

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_05]: knows you dead

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_05]: speaking of feel good movies

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean jeepers creepers

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_01]: do you know what I almost think

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: was in the water

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that year

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll make it

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: 2006 or 2007

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: George W. Bush

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_05]: and the Iraq War

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I was wondering

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: what is it

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of it

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: is there was like

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the immediate aftermath

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: of how do we reckon

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_01]: with 9-11

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and a lot of movies

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that were trying to tackle

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it more directly

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: or there was

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: all the sort of like

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: po-faced

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Iraq war movies

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: these are all

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_05]: taking elliptical approach

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's why

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_05]: it's more just in the air

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_01]: it took five or six years

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: for people to be like

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make a movie

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01]: about this mood

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: rather than actually

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to talk about

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: the events

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Zodiac

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_05]: for crying out loud

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Zodiac

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: when I was thinking back

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_05]: on Inland Empire

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_05]: when I think back

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_05]: on that memory

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think back

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_05]: of just being

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_05]: in the sticket

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_05]: of just like

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_05]: really good

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_05]: movies

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_05]: now Inland Empire

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_05]: is obviously

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_05]: an outlier

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_05]: like as much

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_05]: as I like Zodiac

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_05]: like Zodiac

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_05]: is not Inland Empire

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_05]: like it's just

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_05]: is just doing

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: something completely

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: different

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_05]: sure

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_05]: the movie

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_05]: that I saw

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_05]: just about a week

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_05]: after I saw

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_05]: comes the closest

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_05]: to the experience

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I had watching

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_05]: is this fucking

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Romanian movie

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_05]: do you ever see

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_05]: a Romanian

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_05]: quote unquote

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_05]: comedy

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_05]: called

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_05]: The Death

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_05]: of Mr.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Lazzarrescu

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_05]: of course

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember that one

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that was

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_05]: hot shit

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_05]: though

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_05]: it was when

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Romanian cinema

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_05]: it was after

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_05]: four months

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_05]: three weeks

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_05]: two days

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_05]: for sure

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Christy

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_02]: on pronouncing

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Romanian names

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: but it is

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: one of those

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: things right

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: great new

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: comedy

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: out of

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Eastern

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Europe

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: hmm

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_02]: is it

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: two and a half

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: hours long

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_02]: is it

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_05]: two and a half

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_05]: hours

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_05]: of an elderly

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_05]: alcoholic

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_05]: dying in real

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: time

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_05]: as he is

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_05]: kicked out

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_05]: of multiple

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_05]: hospital

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_05]: emergency rooms

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: people in Romania

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: are like

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: rolling in the

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: aisles

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: why is this

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it's bureaucracy

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: refusing to let

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: this guy die

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: it's making fun

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: of you know

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: institutions

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_05]: another great

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_05]: experience of

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_05]: just going

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_05]: into a movie

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_05]: cold

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw it

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_05]: in Chapel Hill

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_05]: there's an

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_05]: art and indie

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_05]: cinema that was

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_05]: actually started

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_05]: by my old

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_05]: high school

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_05]: English teacher

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Bruce Stone

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: it's called

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: the Chelsea

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's still

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_05]: an operation

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and you could

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_05]: go there

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and just like

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and watch all

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_05]: these funky

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_05]: like I saw

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Akira there

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: when Akira

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: came out

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_05]: the vanishing

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_05]: there

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_05]: when the

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_05]: vanishing

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_05]: was first

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: released

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: speaking of

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: another great

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_05]: feel-good movie

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah that ends

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_05]: really happy

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and um

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_05]: so it's like

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah there's

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: a new comedy

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_05]: out of Romania

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_05]: the death of

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Mr.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Lazaruscu

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: so I went

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_05]: in cold

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_05]: it's a long

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_05]: movie

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it's two and a

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: half hours long

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and at the

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_05]: end of it

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_05]: an older guy

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_05]: on the front

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_05]: row

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: literally yelled

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: out

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_05]: that's it

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_05]: he was so

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_05]: pissed

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_05]: he's like

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah that's it

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_05]: he died

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_05]: like it was in

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: the title

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: you can't be

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: disappointed

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: like you're not

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: getting your money

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_05]: back

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: actually

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: from what I

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: remember

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: the movie

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: it ends

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: with them

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: being like

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: okay we're

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: finally gonna

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_02]: do like a

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: brain operation

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: on you

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the movie

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: is like

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: well leave

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it off

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: here

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: we're gonna

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: we're gonna

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: let you guys

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: go now

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and you're

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: just like

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_02]: no I think

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_05]: he dies

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_05]: on a stretcher

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I think

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: he's definitely

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: on the table

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it is

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: in the title

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that he dies

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: so you know

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: don't be

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so my memory

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_05]: of Inland Empire

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_05]: is coupled

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_05]: with my memory

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: of just being

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: like what a

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: great year

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: for movies

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_05]: like I like

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_05]: bro-y movies

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: that end

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: on a bummer

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_05]: note

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_05]: death of

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Mr. Lazarescu

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_05]: was fun

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_05]: like I don't

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: need to see

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: it again

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but you know

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_05]: it's like

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_05]: if you saw

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that recent

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: movie from

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Romania

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: called

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: do not

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: expect too

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: much from

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: the end

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_05]: of the world

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: did you see

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_05]: fucking awesome

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: another two

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and a half

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: hour movie

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: an absolute

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_02]: grind

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_05]: 1208

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: East of Bucharest

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: did either of you

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: see that

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that was around

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I never saw

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: that was

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: 607

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: very funny

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: very bleak

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Romanian comedy

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_02]: that one I think

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_02]: is at least short

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll give that one

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: credit

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: what the rule is

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: about Eastern

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_02]: European films

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_02]: needing to be

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: very long

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: so you saw

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Lind Empire

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_02]: in this beautiful

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: theater

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw it in this

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: beautiful

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: empty

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: almost empty

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_05]: theater

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I went in

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_05]: just being like

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_05]: oh David Lynch

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_05]: has a new movie

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's all

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I knew

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I just

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I just

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_05]: remember it

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: as just like

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: a

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_05]: great

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_05]: experience

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_05]: re-watching

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_05]: it was

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_05]: interesting

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I had

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_05]: misremembered

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_05]: a lot

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: of

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: the movie

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and I

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_05]: forgotten

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: a lot

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: of it

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: it's been

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: 17 years

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_05]: but there's

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_05]: some

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_05]: this

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_05]: shot

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_05]: of

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Laura

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Dern

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_05]: running

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: towards

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: the camera

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_05]: on that

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_05]: outdoor

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_05]: path

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and then

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_05]: close up

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_05]: on her

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_05]: face

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and she's

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: got this

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_05]: agonizing

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_05]: grimace

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that's

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: really

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: her

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_05]: overlit

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_05]: my

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_05]: memory

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_05]: of that

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_05]: night

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_05]: is

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_05]: seeing

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: her

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: face

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_05]: on a

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_05]: fucking

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: it was

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: one of

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: biggest

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: things

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I've

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: ever

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: seen

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: if that

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_05]: makes

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_05]: sense

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_05]: hugeness

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_05]: of her

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_05]: emotion

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and seeing

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it on

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: a

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: big

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_05]: huge

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_05]: screen

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I just

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_05]: remember

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_05]: being

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_05]: just

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: absolutely

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_05]: remember

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_05]: is

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_05]: credit

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_05]: sequence

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_05]: with

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Sinner

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Man

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_05]: and just

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: a feeling

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: of

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_05]: absolute

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: relief

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: euphoria

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: catharsis

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: there is

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: a huge

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: relief

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to the

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: credits

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_02]: in the

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: theater

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it is

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: an

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: incredibly

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: long

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: movie

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: it is

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: quite

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_02]: punishing

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_02]: at

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_02]: times

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: ending

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_02]: is fun

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and the

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: music

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: is so

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_02]: good

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: there

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: there's

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: just

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: sense

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: think

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you're

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I've

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: been

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: strained

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: keep

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: all

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: these

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: place

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: spinning

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: try

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: think

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: what

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: they

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: are

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_02]: while

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: another

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: part

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: my

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: brain

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_02]: is

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: don't

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: worry

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: just

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: soak

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: in

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_02]: or

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: you

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: if

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you're

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: watching

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: movie

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you can't

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: help

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: try

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: grasp

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: narrative

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: think

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: unless

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you're

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: very

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: used

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: avant-garde

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: cinema

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: where

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: you're

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: oh

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: you

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Sims

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: made

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: joke

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Eraserhead

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: episode

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: his

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: glib

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: analysis

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: for

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: all

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: David

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Lynch

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: movies

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_01]: when

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: people

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_01]: try to

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: unlock

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: them

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: was

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: just

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: going to

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: be

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: point

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: out

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: he's

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: been

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: proven

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_01]: somewhat

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: correct

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: four

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: times

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: across

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: series

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: two

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: minutes

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: twelve

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: seconds

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: into

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: movie

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: couple

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: man

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: woman

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_01]: silhouette

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_01]: subtitled

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Polish

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: we

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: don't

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: really

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: have

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: our

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: bearings

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: yet

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: faces

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: blurred

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: out

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: interestingly

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: start

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: having

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: an

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: argument

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_01]: don't

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: have

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: key

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: true

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: for

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: these

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: movies

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: do

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: have

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: key

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: losing

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: keys

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_05]: you're

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_05]: not

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_05]: wrong

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: there is

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: a

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: lot

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: of

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: keys

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: passageways

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and portals

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_05]: that's

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_05]: obviously

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: one of

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: his

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_05]: recurring

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_05]: motifs

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and obsessions

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: you had

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: your line

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: on

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I think

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: spirited

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: away

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: episode

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: where you

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: said

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that you

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: think

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: all

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: movies

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: are

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: puzzles

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: or

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: dreams

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: a thing

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: we cite

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and think

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: on this

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: show

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: think

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: well not

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: all

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: movies

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: but like

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: movies

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that you

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_05]: sit

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_05]: with

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_05]: are

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: just

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: being

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: in

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: a

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: feeling

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_01]: isn't

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_01]: what's

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Lynch

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: that he

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: makes

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: films

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that are

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: simultaneously

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: puzzles

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and dreams

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_05]: well that's

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: why I think

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Mulholland Drive

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_05]: is in the

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: pocket

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: because that's

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: in the

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: sweet spot

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: it's the

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_05]: best version

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_05]: you can

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_05]: have fun

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: with it

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: as a puzzle

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_02]: or not

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_02]: you can

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_05]: watch it

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_05]: both ways

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I think

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_05]: you can't

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_05]: solve it

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_05]: all the way

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_05]: this is the

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: reason that I

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: really come

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_05]: to love

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_05]: this movie

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_05]: is I

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_05]: think part

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_05]: of it

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_05]: was that

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_05]: you know

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: it was

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: improvised

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: he didn't

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: really

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: have a

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: script

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: he was

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: just

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: written

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: we

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: can

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: talk

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: about

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: we

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: we should

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: crack open

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the dossier

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: but I

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: watched this

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: movie last

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: night for the

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: first time

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: with the

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_01]: going to

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: try to

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: solve

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: because

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: understand

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: the way

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: he made

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: not as

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: intentionally

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: designed

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: with a

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: simple

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: codex

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in his

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_01]: mind

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: think

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: there

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: is

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: still

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: a

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: sort

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: story

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: you

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: can

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: pluck

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: out

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Inland

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Empire

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: it's

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: sort

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Mulholland

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Drive

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: where

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: you

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: don't

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: have

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: do

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: at

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: very

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: end

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: suddenly

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: had

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: a

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: read

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: on

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: it

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: sorry

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: interrupted

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: nothing

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you're

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: say

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: about

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: not

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: trying

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: solve

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: movie

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: or

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: whether

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: is

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: solvable

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: well

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: mean

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: solution

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: is

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: in

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: is

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: in

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: posters

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: it's

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_05]: like

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_05]: a woman

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: performance

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that is

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: so locked

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: that even

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: if the

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: actor

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: herself

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: does not

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: really

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: understand

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: what movie

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: she's in

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: or what

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: she's in

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: wait to

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: see this

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: movie

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and figure

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: out

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: what

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: the

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_05]: fuck

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: kind

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: of

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: stay

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: locked

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: into

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_01]: she's

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_02]: playing

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: at

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: moment

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: the

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: movie

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_02]: became

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_02]: this

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_02]: kind

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_02]: of

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: early

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: internet

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_02]: meme

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: because

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_02]: David Lynch

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: rented a cow

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and went

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_02]: on the street

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and did an Oscar

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_02]: campaign for Laura Dern

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and people were like

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_02]: in a way she should get an Oscar

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: nomination she has like

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_02]: 40 Oscar clips

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_02]: she delivers monologues

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: she does accents

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: she cries

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_02]: she dies

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and at the same time

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: people were like

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: can you please be

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: sorry no Oscar

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: voter is going to

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: respond to this movie

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: but it was

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_02]: it was such a thing

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: at the moment

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: where I feel like

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_02]: his Oscar campaign

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_02]: became more famous

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_02]: than the movie

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_01]: in a certain way

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: despite not getting

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: her nomination

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that she was never

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: going to get

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it has

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_01]: proven more effective

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: than most Oscar

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: campaigns

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and that we all

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: remember

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the campaign

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: that and the

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: fucking Melissa Leo

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm buying out

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: ads myself

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: that say consider

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_05]: those are the two

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_05]: for your consideration

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: campaigns that people

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_05]: still talk about

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're the two

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: times that people

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: went crazy

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: right that they

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: were just like

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_01]: fuck your like

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: model of how

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: you do this

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and good for them

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not doing

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Melissa Leo

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I totally support that

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: like go for it

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and David Lynch

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't get the

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: nomination

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: he wants

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: he got attention

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and he knows

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: how to get

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: all right

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I will

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: we have research

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: on the film

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so I will

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: right okay

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: crack open our

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: dossier

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Mulholland Drive

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: of course

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: came out in 2001

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and David Lynch

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't really have

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: any plans for

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: another movie

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: after that

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he's much more

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: interested in the

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_02]: internet

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and his

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: doing his dumb

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: land

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: his own website

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe starting

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: his own television

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_02]: station is something

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: he talks about

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: he starts

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: David Lynch dot com

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and for ten dollars

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: a month

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: people will remember

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_02]: this

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: you would get

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: his daily weather

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: reports

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_02]: something called

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Out Yonder

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: where he and his

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: son Austin

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: would talk to each

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_02]: other

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I've ever seen

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_05]: those

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I've definitely

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_05]: seen the weather

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_05]: reports

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_05]: of course

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_05]: blue skies

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and golden

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_05]: sunshine

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he would speed

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: run levels

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: of Sonic

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and Knuckles

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_02]: dumb land

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: which we talk

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_02]: about a little

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_02]: bit on our

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: do you remember

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_02]: dumb land

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: it was sort

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_02]: of an animated

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_02]: crudely animated

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: dumb land

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: feels very

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_02]: dumb people

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_02]: actually

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I get it

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_05]: confused with

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: the comic

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: he had

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_05]: that never

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_05]: changed

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: the angriest

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: dog in the

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: world

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: or whatever

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_05]: it's called

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_05]: where it's

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_05]: the same

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: art every

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: single time

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: something called

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Head with a

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Hammer

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: oh yeah

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: that which

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: was sort

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: of like

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: an office

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: drone

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: satire

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_02]: something called

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Blue Bob

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02]: which was a

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_02]: blues

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_02]: industrial blues

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: album he made

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: with the guitarist

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_02]: John Neff

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it's

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_02]: David Lynch

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: industrial blues

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but he was almost

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_01]: like doing an

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: early version

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: of a Patreon

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah right

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_01]: hey your

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_01]: subscription

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_01]: here's all my

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_01]: is where all

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: of it will go

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in 2002

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he released

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Rabbits

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_02]: which is probably

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: the most famous

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_02]: thing that came

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_02]: out of all of

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: this famous

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: quote unquote

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_02]: which footage

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: of which of

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: course is in

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the Inland Empire

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: we talk about

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that on our

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: short film episode

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: as well

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: have you ever

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: seen Rabbits

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I've only seen

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_05]: it in the

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Inland Empire

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and so

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: you've got

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Scott Coffey

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Laura Herring

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and Naomi Watts

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_02]: in rabbit suits

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_02]: doing the strange

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_02]: sitcom and they

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_02]: are in the

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_02]: rabbit suits

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_02]: confirmed

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_04]: whoa really

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: it's really them

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_02]: that's cool

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: that's

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Laura Herring

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if you're

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_05]: gonna do it

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: do it

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: like that's

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_05]: what's so wonderful

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_05]: about him

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_05]: just fucking

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Laura Herring

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_02]: said her

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: approach was

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I closed my

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: eyes and I

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_02]: followed his

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_02]: instructions

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_02]: David Lynch

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: dot com

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: shut down

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_02]: in the mid

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_02]: 2000s

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_02]: classic second

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_02]: dot com

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_02]: bubble

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_02]: he did

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_02]: yes he did

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_02]: keep up the

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_02]: weather reports

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_02]: sporadically and

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: they sort of

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_02]: still exist

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but he realized

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_02]: he said

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_02]: you can't charge

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_02]: people for a

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_02]: site you don't

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_02]: update all the

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: time so I

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_02]: lost interest

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_02]: in it

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: would that

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_05]: others would

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_05]: take the same

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_02]: lesson

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: can I say

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_01]: he was

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_01]: quick to

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: figure out

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the grind

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that does

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: in a lot

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: of people

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and then

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_02]: he went

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: from internet

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: to the

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: most analog

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_02]: form of

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_02]: generating

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_02]: creativity

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_02]: walking

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and running

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: into

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Laura Dern

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_02]: his new

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: neighbor

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_02]: he hadn't

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_02]: seen her

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: in a while

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_02]: dating Billy

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Bob Thornton

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_02]: apparently

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and they ran

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_02]: into each

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_02]: other on

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: yon street

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_02]: just walking

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_02]: around

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_02]: like you know

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_02]: we should do

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: something together

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_02]: are you serious

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that's how this

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: happened

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_02]: because like

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: what would the

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: last thing she

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: had been with

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: him

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_02]: it had been

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: 10 years

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_05]: more than 10

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_05]: years

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: quickly

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: oh in blue

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: velvet I've seen

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: blue velvet

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_05]: sorry

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_05]: of course

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_01]: don't spend

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: time on this

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: quickly just

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: jump back

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and circle

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_01]: a thing that

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I think people

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: forget which

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: is that

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Billy Bob Thornton

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: left Laura Dern

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_01]: for Angelina Jolie

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah he was

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_01]: he was

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_01]: dating some

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_01]: really fancy

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_01]: folks

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_01]: in that crazy

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it was

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: 18 months

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: two years

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: of the

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Billy Bob

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Angelina thing

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_01]: the quiet

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: narrative was

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and Laura Dern

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: is sad

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: that he had

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: dumped her

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: yes

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_05]: do you want to

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: know something

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: really crazy

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that I remember

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_05]: about Billy Bob Thornton

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I think about

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_05]: this so often

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_05]: on Fresh Air

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_05]: with Terry Gross

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_05]: the interview show

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_05]: she once interviewed

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_05]: him

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and he said

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_05]: he was like

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_05]: he was like

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I really get

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_05]: freaked out by

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_05]: old furniture

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_05]: like I can't

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't buy

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_05]: antique furniture

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_05]: or secondhand

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_05]: furniture

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: it like freaks me

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: out it really

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_05]: disturbs me

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to buy

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: new furniture

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I think about

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_05]: that all the time

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: do you think

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a point

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: at which his

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: furniture becomes

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_02]: too old for

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I wonder

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah right

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: anyway

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_01]: he has like

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: held up film

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_01]: productions

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_01]: if they set

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: dress

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: the thing about

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: him is like

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: his phobias

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and hangups

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: are like complete

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and unbreakable

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_05]: and there are

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_05]: many of them

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_05]: it's not an

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_05]: affectation

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_05]: but I know

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the antique one

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_01]: like carries over

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_01]: into all aspects

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_01]: of his life

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I love that

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: they ran into

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: each other

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: we should do

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: something together

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so David Lynch

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: is like let

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_02]: let me just film

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: you doing some

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and she says

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: she did tell

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: her agent at

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: CAA I'm going

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: to do this

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and her agent

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: was like

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: what's he paying

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: you

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and Lynch

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_02]: said well

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the internet

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_02]: rate is $100

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and so he

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_02]: paid her $100

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and they shot

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_02]: this lengthy

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: monologue

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_02]: which is you know

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_02]: basically lots of

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: it is in the film

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_02]: which is her

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_02]: talking they're

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_02]: called the Mr. K

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_02]: monologues in the

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_02]: film but it's her

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_02]: when she's talking

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_02]: with the sort of

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_02]: southern accent

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_02]: recounting these

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_02]: things to a

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_02]: the spectacled man

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_05]: one of the

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: actually creepiest

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_05]: characters in the

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_05]: movie

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_05]: that performance

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_05]: is so unsettling

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_05]: he is

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_05]: of the guy

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_05]: behind the desk

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_02]: it's all shot

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_02]: in his painting

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_02]: studio

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_02]: which they made

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_02]: a sort of set

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_02]: inside of

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and she started

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: speaking and they

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: stopped twice

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_02]: once for an

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: airplane

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_02]: once to reload

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: the camera

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_02]: just apart from

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_02]: that they just

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_02]: did long

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like 45 minute

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_02]: takes

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_05]: but we should

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: emphasize

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: they were not

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: reloading the

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: camera with film

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: because this movie

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_05]: is not shot on

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_05]: film

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_02]: no you

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_02]: you love to

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: come on for

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: movies that were

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: shot on

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: tax machines

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: what are you

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: looking at

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Eric Crary

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: who plays

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. K

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: yes

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: is kind of a

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Monty Montgomery

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_01]: situation

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: he's a film

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: producer right

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: he

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: here are the

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: titles he held

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: on this film

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: in Lind Empire

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: okay

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: he of course

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: functions as an

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: actor playing the

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: okay

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: he also was

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: associate producer

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: he also was

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: production supervisor

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_01]: he also was

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: camera operator

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_01]: at times

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: he was part of

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: the construction

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: team

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: this is

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but this is how

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: all movies should

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_05]: be made

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_05]: it's certainly

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: is the camera

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: supervisor

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: just someone

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: who's like

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: hey

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: could you

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: turn it on

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: make sure

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_05]: there's no

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_05]: film in that

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_05]: camera

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_05]: make sure

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that thing

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: looks like

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: absolute

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_05]: garbage

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: he was

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Mary Sweeney's

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: assistant

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: on Mulholland,

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Drive yes

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_05]: right

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: so

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: you're like

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: here's

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: his like longtime

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: partner

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: creative

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: collaborator

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: assistant

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: who he's

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm working

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: on a new

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: thing

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: really know

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: what it

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: is yet

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: can you

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: come

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and be

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: the person

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Laura Dern

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: monologues

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and also

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: as the

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: project

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: grows

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he starts

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: putting

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: him in

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: all these

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: different

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: places

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: they do

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: do

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: producer

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: jay

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: sing

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: recounts

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: lynch

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: afterwards

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: was just

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: like

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: what if

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: this

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: was a

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: movie

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and was

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: just

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: very

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: excited

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and so

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: 2006

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: still a

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: time where

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: of people

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: would look

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: at that

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and go

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: well

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: what we

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: should

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: do

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: is

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: reshoot

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: on film

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: never

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: going

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: back

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: to

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: film

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: never

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: going

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: back

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: to

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: film

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: my

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: biggest

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: cultural

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: memory

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: of

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: movie

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: having

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: not

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: seen

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: until

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: last

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: night

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: remembering

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: reading

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: reviews

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: interviews

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: at the

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: time

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: was that

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: he kept

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: on

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: referring

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: to

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and I

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: don't

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: know

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: if

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: is

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: dossier

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: digital

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: camera

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