Josie and the Pussycats with Angela Ferraguto
May 06, 201802:19:09

Josie and the Pussycats with Angela Ferraguto

This week is with special guest, Angela Ferraguto, associate producer and social media manager for this very podcast! And for this episode she picked 2001’s satirical rock comedy, Josie and the Pussycats. But was Griffin a big Rachael Leigh Cook fan growing up? Did Beyoncé audition for this film? Who misses Last Call with Carson Daly? Together they discuss the careers of Rosario Dawson, Alan Cumming and Tara Reid, the Muppet Baby versions of themselves, and why this is a pitch perfect send up of the early aughts that only early aught kids would get. This episode is sponsored by Dollar Shave Club (dollarshaveclub.com/check). And to purchase tickets to Producer Ben's upcoming live sketch comedy show VAPOR 2099 on May 11th 9:30pm at the Brick Theater in Williamsburg, Brooklyn go to https://web.ovationtix.com/trs/pe.c/10284577 or for more information https://www.brooklyncc.com/show-schedule/2018/5/11

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check Hey, listen, let's promise each other something right here and right now, okay?

[00:00:25] No matter what happens, if we become huge stars or we end up hitchhiking back to Riverdale, we will always be friends first in a band second. Friends first! I swear on my podcast! Yay!

[00:00:42] We're the only podcast where we're all in the picture on our bus license or whatever. Hashtag to France first. But guess what? I'm Griffin Newman. David Sims. This episode isn't about us. No. We've handed off our checkbook. Sure. We've given someone else the choice.

[00:01:02] Because usually this show is called Blank Check. It's called Blank Check. It is. Twisted still call it Blank Check today. But usually it's about filmographies, directors who have massive success early on in their career and are given a series of Blank Check, whatever crazy passion projects they want.

[00:01:17] Sometimes they clear and sometimes they bounce Pussycat. Yes. But today, as we often do in between miniseries, we're given someone else the reins of the show. They have the Blank Check to choose whatever movie they want. And our guest today, A, is kind of... Part of the family.

[00:01:39] I wasn't going to say kind of part of the family. She's 100% a part of the family. Yeah. 100%. She's kind of... She's kind of been the silent voice in this podcast all along. Yeah. Because she's so responsible for everything outside of the recordings themselves.

[00:01:57] You could say like my voice was kind of like under the track a little bit. Subliminally underneath the track. Oh, I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? She's kind of been there the whole time. Wait, wait, wait, just for a second. What are you saying?

[00:02:07] No, no, I get it. Do you need me to make my point for one more time? No, no, I get it. I get it. And if there was ever any doubt that she belonged here in this studio with us,

[00:02:22] it was eradicated the second she came in with her choice because, boy, did she choose the single best American film of the 2000s? Yes. That's what it is. Accurate. A Harry Elfont Deborah Kaplan joint. The last one? I know. Sort of a bummer. It's a massive bummer.

[00:02:40] Who knows what they could have become? I feel like there's an alternate universe in which they would be good miniseries subjects if they continued to make movies like this. Well, we could follow their writing career because they wrote more movies. They just never direct.

[00:02:54] It even took a while for them to get another script produced. They had a gap. They survived Christmas. Oh, right, they survived Christmas. They leaps a year. Yeah, they left a year. They survived Christmas but the American public didn't. The American public did not survive Christmas,

[00:03:09] did not take them as their maid of honor and kind of blew off leap year. They waited four years for it to go on HBO. They skipped the leap year. So this is their peak. Yeah. Yes, yes. It's a film. Wait a second. Have we introduced our guests?

[00:03:25] We're all over the place. No, she is... We could start already, guys. No, we're doing great. She is the fourth member of the Blaine Trek family. Yep. Final. Did no one else allowed? Ever. Good. We shout her out every week.

[00:03:41] Yeah, no one else fits in the bus pass. No. No. And you're kind of short. You can get a little crammed in there. Hey, shut up, Tali. Yeah. So tall. Fucking dummy. Our guest today is the perfect height, the height of all intelligent people under five foot seven.

[00:03:58] Sure. The classiest of heights, Antford Goodow. Hi. Is our guest today an Ant, what movie have you chosen? I have chosen 2001's Josie and the Pussycat. Fuck yeah! Thank you for yelling off, Mike. Josie and the Pussycats. An alphan and Kaplan. E and K. If I... Elfin Cap.

[00:04:21] If I ever had... Elf Cap. Yeah, Elf Cap. If I ever had a griff's choice, which it's about time because I never get to put my thoughts on that. You just don't get to say what you think. I can't get a word in Antelix. What does griffin like?

[00:04:33] We just don't know. The show never reflects my interests. What are his tastes? No idea. Like, remember that time that you said, please let's do a Hotel Transylvania episode this year? Talk to the editor. And we were all like, griffin, no, we will not.

[00:04:47] Please, I cry about it every single night. By the way, as a topical episode, somewhat, I should mention the fact that I pointedly was not nominated for a Saturn Award this year. Wait, you weren't? Yeah. Wait, did that just come out? It came out a couple weeks ago,

[00:05:01] but it made no splash in the news, so most people will be hearing this for the first time. Wait. No rings for you. When you say pointed, I mean, did they mention that they didn't nominate you? They nominated. They specifically said at the nomination ceremonies

[00:05:14] and not for the new men. Did they nominate Peter? No. They nominated. They nominated new media superhero series. That's the only nomination that's taken out, which is fucking bullshit. I mean, also. That category is bullshit. Should that be a category? That's what I'm saying.

[00:05:27] We're going to go into that in a second. Is bullshit, they nominated zero performances. No Yara Martinez, no Valerie Curry, no Peter Serif and Oed. Also, I mean, and I'm not trying to rub it in here, but they had eight nominees. Thank you.

[00:05:43] That's where the pointedly comes in. And one of them is someone, no offense to this person that I've literally never heard of. I believe they don't exist. And I don't mean that as any disrespect to this person. I just haven't heard of it.

[00:05:53] You can't disrespect them because they don't exist. Oh, him. Okay. Okay. Who? Carrie Payton, which is odd because there's the famous basketball player, Carrie Payton. He plays, he's in The Walking Dead and he plays, what's the character called? Like it's, he's got a biblical name. Yeah.

[00:06:13] Ezekiel, the guy with the tigers. I guess that's kind of a cool character. I don't know. Eight nominees. They've always been five perfumes. Let's run them down. Let's run them down. I just want to run them down because I think six, I think six of them belong.

[00:06:27] Five, five of them belong. Okay. So Nikolai Kosterwaldo and Game of Thrones, he's a gimmie. He's, he's, What is this category again? Supporting actor, period. Now in television. On television. And true if we haven't made it clear, it does the social media and runs the Twitter feed.

[00:06:42] We're going to praise her more in a second. But this is very important. Got it. Cause let's point out that Angie, Angie also didn't get nominated for a Saturn Award this year, which is fucking bullshit. And they had a category that was best social media

[00:06:55] for a comedy slash film criticism podcast. And there were 15 nominees. So, Angie, do you agree with me that Griffin's really the leader of the tech? Yes. Okay. So I don't know why he's campaigning for supporting. You know what I mean? Number two on the call.

[00:07:11] It's me and Rooney Mar. He was trying to sneak into supporting. Rooney Mar rules. I think, hmm. There's zero chance I had a break in into lead. You don't think you could display Seth MacFarlane in The Orville? Hey look. For acting. Is that a show that exists?

[00:07:26] It's a show that exists. Okay. Seth MacFarlane was nominated for his acting. It's phenomenal performance. Just a poster like on 14th Street. Yeah, that's what it is. Apparently it is on 14th Street. It's a shoe-in. 4,000 nominees in that category. There's a lot of posters on 14th Street. Yeah.

[00:07:43] All right. So here are the nominees. Nikolai Kosterwaldo. He's in Game of Thrones. Sure. Throw him in. Where's Waldo? In that category. He's there. Yeah. I don't know. Who I think is a lead. Who's lead? Then who's the lead? I think they're saying everyone's lead.

[00:07:58] I think everyone is campaigned in supporting. The dragon is lead. Yeah, sure. All right. And he's a game you too. Doug Jones and Star Trek Discovery. The guy's a sci-fi legend. He's very good on Star Trek. And I'll say from... David just spilled water. Capstone. Capstone.

[00:08:13] From the one year that I was someone's plus one to the Saturn Awards. In 2008, Doug Jones is like the Jack Nicholson of the Saturn Awards. Exactly. Everyone's like, Doug Jones, see you! No, but he wears like a very brightly colored vest. Good for him. Cause he can.

[00:08:26] I mean if I were Doug Jones, I would just like wear whatever the fuck I want all the time. Yeah, Doug Jones flocks and his body can... Well, I mean, cause he's just... Drained any clothes. Covered in like goop. He's a wicker man. Like stuff all the time.

[00:08:38] Yes. Yeah. He's also so sliver. He should dress to the nines cause right usually he's... Right. He's a fish man blocked out from the world. Whatever makes jokes about him, he does bits from the audience. He kills it. Great nomination. Totally worthy. So he's in, right? Okay.

[00:08:52] Four Mike... He's gonna win, he's gonna win by the way. Sure. Yeah. He's really good on search. On the record. He's genuinely great on search. Number four, Michael McKean and Better Call Saul. I'm not sure why that gets into the Saturns. Thank you. Great performance.

[00:09:03] Totally deserving of a nomination at the M.E.s. Yeah. Which I think he gets those nominations. Like he's been nominated for the M.E.s. But like they nominated Francis McDormand for best actress for three billboards. I mean, are they calling like film noir genre?

[00:09:16] Like sort of... Thriller, they said. All right. Anyway. Get out. All right. So that's four. Sorry, that's four. And then the fifth, and I hope he wins is Miguel Ferrer and Twin Peaks The Return. Yeah. So phenomenal. And right, Rip. Right. All right.

[00:09:33] Then Carrie Payton in The Walking Dead. Okay, fine. I mean, he looks cool. He looks cool. He's fun. He's great. Okay. Christian Kane in The Librarians. The guy from Angel. Like in a TNT show that's a mini series. No comment. David, describe my face right now.

[00:09:50] He's like confusion. Yeah, kind of a bemused. No comment. Evan Peter is an American Horror Story cult. I mean, I mean, come on. You know, it gets rough there at the end. I think you should have been in there. I think so. And they didn't nominate. Yeah.

[00:10:09] And then in actor, yeah, John Bernthal Bruce Campbell. He must be another Nicholson type at the Saturn's. Yeah. He must be on like the board of governors or whatever. Sam Hewan and Outlander, which you can't disrespect Outlander. I think Bruce Campbell might be more of the Robin Williams.

[00:10:24] Sure. When he comes up on stage and does like a 20 minute. Are you into this pen by the way? You're into this school. Yeah. Jason Isaacs, Andrew Lincoln, Colin McLaughlin. Okay. Those are all, you know. Yeah. How many people are on this list?

[00:10:38] They've always been a five per category show. And this year they're like eight suddenly. It's a little rude. That's a little rude. Luckily you were nominated in Best New Media Superhero Series alongside four Marvel shows on Netflix and Future Man on Hulu. What? Very weird.

[00:10:55] Because then the best superhero, they have a literal best comic to television series, right? They have a best comic to motion picture. Oh. But I think they've removed, I think this is just the new title.

[00:11:07] And then they have Best Superhero TV Series and Best New Media Superhero TV Series. So the best Superhero TV series is just five Berlanti shows. Well, they had seven nominees this year. Jesus Christ. You know, that's yeah, but yeah, your Arrow, your Flash, your Supergirl. Right.

[00:11:24] And then New Media is every Marvel Netflix show that has season, us and Future Man. Yeah. I... Pass and Future... This is a fun intro guys. I'm loving it. Pass and Future guest friend of the show, Sam Rogal. Yeah.

[00:11:36] Texted me and said my condolences about and future about the Saturn Awards. Life is hard. Yeah. Yeah. And I went, ugh, I didn't get in. But I was like, I'm going to open this up and I'm going to be happy to see that Jackie Earl Haley got nominated.

[00:11:50] Sure. Or Peter or whatever. Right. Right. And then the fact that, you know, I just think I got to cast a prose on our show, a show that shouldn't be made because no one should ever make a TV show. Is that for season two? So punk. All right.

[00:12:06] So that's the Saturn recap. Yeah. Overwit. Not all about like the glory and fame though, Griffin. I think you should just worry about being yourself. Sometimes it's a lesson of a little movie. Friends that you've been doing the work with for years. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

[00:12:24] The friends who like one day years ago, I'm looking at the Twitter feed and I think I literally said to Griffin like, that's funny. Like, are you doing the tweets? They're funny. And Griffin was like, I'm not doing any tweets. What? You kidding me?

[00:12:36] Like literally, like literally like, and then I was like, no, that's Ang. That's Ang the intern. Hi, that's me. Yeah. Way back in the day. Well, I think it was the almost famous was like my... Was that your debut?

[00:12:47] Well, because I wanted to say I started, so I interviewed with Ben in like April or something of 2016. Ben is not remembering this at all. Come on, Ben. Those brain cells together. That sounds right. That sounds right. Yes.

[00:13:02] It's early-ish into when we're blank check, not a Star Wars podcast. And this was back in the UCB days. You were interning for UCB, not for our podcast. Correct. My second internship. And then I ended up being the only intern for the podcast.

[00:13:15] Worked for like 11 other shows, but you guys... But I had the most fun with like your show and then I think we had just started James Cameron, just wrapped up on the Wachowskis and like almost famous. I was like obsessed with it as like a teen Ben's.

[00:13:33] You were making content. Yeah. I made the like listen to blank check with a candle burning. I remember that. Yeah. And I was like... I remember you being like, that was great. That was so good.

[00:13:44] I was like Griffin must have made this because he loves almost famous, but no, it wasn't great. No, it was me. I love almost famous. I remember you photoshopping space gams off of like a Richard Lawson's... Space Gams is my proudest work. That was great.

[00:13:54] That's on my LinkedIn page right now. I mean, Ange came in and we barely had this like network at UCB running, you know? It was literally a closet. It was a closet. It was a closet that Ben lived in and he wasn't going crazy.

[00:14:08] No, I was losing my mind. And so I was so thankful to have Ange's internship. She was so great and basically established how to like support the show with social media. That was all Ange. All Ange because social media was terrible up until that point. Yeah.

[00:14:24] You guys are no followers. What was it? Like I don't even remember what we just had a Twitter account. Did you post episode links? Some time. Yeah. Once in a while. Yeah. I was really great at developing what the blank check feed is now.

[00:14:38] The voice and was so great that I was sad to see her go. And I was like, hey, do you want to maybe like stay involved with the show? After run of internship we were like one of them. Cause... To the fold.

[00:14:54] I'm not going to lose this one. Intern the fold. More like... Intern the fold. Yeah, that's right. Nancy Meyers movie. Yeah, I think your show is definitely just the most fun to jump into.

[00:15:06] I remember the first episode I listened to was The Force Awakens because I was low key obsessed with it as soon as it came out and then I remember like asking... I had notes about like in case Ben asked me what are some ideas or like episodes or

[00:15:22] something and I had some pitches that I don't think were necessarily in line with blank check but looking back it's very funny cause so many fans are like you should do that and we're like okay. And I'm like, oh that's totally what I did when I started listening.

[00:15:34] But you also had like a very matched sense of humor. Like you have very parallel sort of... Can I just say I figured out you guys' voice very easily. Just kind of nailed it down if I can just best... Is this going to be backhanded? A little bit.

[00:15:49] Well there was... There is a blank you who did say that you guys were like David and the three chipmunks. You're the three chipmunks. David is David. I'm all three chipmunks in one person. The angle I kind of just like very quickly figured out just like in a

[00:16:06] in a Muppet baby scenario. Oh. Griffin wouldn't know anything about that. No. But just like okay so like school yard version of you guys is Griffin is like the little kid on the playground that gets like is a way to

[00:16:20] obsess with his toys and gets like picked on. How's that? David is like the like big kid that looks like he could totally beat up Griffin and you think he's going to when his character is introduced

[00:16:30] but he doesn't and he's low key just as big of a nerd. Oh yeah. And then Ben... Oh yeah? Benny? Benny's just like I don't want to do a spit take. Ben's like the low key Ben's the stoner AV kid that like skates

[00:16:47] by and then joins the crew and yeah it was just very you guys had a very good established dynamic that was like fun to work with on social media and I think I just clicked in. You tweeted something right away. You clicked right in.

[00:17:01] You clicked right in and then people started clicking like on those tweets. And follow. We went from zero to followers. Yeah you guys had like 300? Yeah man. Look I'm just a man. I don't know what I'm saying we have like 5000. You should brag. All thanks to you.

[00:17:18] You tweeted something I thought was very cutting the other day which was in the midst of March Madness voting when people were saying like guys we have to vote for this. This is our only opportunity to get Griffin to talk about blank

[00:17:32] and you said I don't understand this line of reasoning as if what was the example you use? As if we didn't like spend 20 minutes on the Muppets like in the opening of like a Christopher Nolan film. Like you we...

[00:17:45] The movie miniseries does not designate but you will not talk about like the Transylvania films. Right which is why we spent 15 minutes talking about the Saturn Awards and it just... Right an award show no one watches or cares about. He's in televised literally he's in televised.

[00:18:02] They are in televised? No. They should televised them on like true TV right? Like get them on a cable network. Well it's like Spike should have like televised that instead of creating whatever their dumb guys choice awards. Right. Dick awards. Best Dick. Best Don.

[00:18:18] That'd be great if it was that but just that. Who we think's got the best Dick but like you know just like it's a good dick. But it means if I won if I had won I could have gotten up and made

[00:18:28] a really incendiary speech because it wouldn't have hit the air. What about Trump? Yeah I would have got him. I don't think this guy should be president. Wait a second an actor having a political opinion and awards ceremony is bad at his job.

[00:18:40] I think you kicked a Hollywood. I just want to say something. You listen up Doug Jones pay attention to me. You know what I love? I love when people tweet at me and go like actor should stick to this.

[00:18:51] Get out of politics you shouldn't weigh in on these matters. And then I go to their feed and all they tweet about is politics and also tweet at people like Scott Bay and go thank you so much for speaking about politics.

[00:19:02] Also about a president who hosted a reality television show. Anyway. We can look up and see if Scott Bay has any Saturn nomination. They probably fucking counted Charles in charge as a thriller. It's okay it is a thriller. He's in charge Charles.

[00:19:18] He has two daytime Emmy nominations but no Saturn nominations. Yeah and they're both for in that way. They're both for after school programming interesting. So we're right on schedule 20 minutes and barely talked about the movie and we're going to talk to you about today.

[00:19:35] There were other movies you floated there were the first one I sent Griffin immediately. We're back a dinosaur story was really fine which insanely someone on the reddit asked us to do. Really? Yes and I noted that and put it in my brain. It was so weird.

[00:19:51] I was just like we haven't done a lot of animated films and it's just like very 90s, very strange. John Goodman is a dinosaur. Jay Leno is in it. Clarice Leachman is in it. Walter Cronkite is a wizard man who time travels brings dinosaurs back to New York

[00:20:08] for the purpose of like bringing wishes to children in New York City. There's an evil man with a spiral eyeball. A couple of the things I want to note. Julia Child plays a character called Dr. Bleab. She has very big glasses. Also it's 72 minutes long.

[00:20:25] Also it has four credited directors. It opens with John Goodman as the T-Rex playing golf. Also came out. I weirdly also learned the children's. In 1993. So it is the quintessential dinosaur movie of 1993. It came out before Jared.

[00:20:46] I owned the book it was based on and I would read it a lot. I did not. I saw the movie about a thousand times. I want to note a couple additional things. On top of those things? Maybe. Okay. Right before you said,

[00:21:01] because I met you and said we'd love to do Analyst of Choice. What do you think you would pick? And you said we're back. Literally like three hours before I was like how did that song go and we're back and I watched Turn Back the Clock?

[00:21:13] Or Turn Back the Rock? It's Roll Back the Rock and Turn Back the Clock and sing this song with me. The only song in a movie that is not a musical but has one full musical number. Also isn't there that weird thing where like

[00:21:25] The dinosaurs for context for the listeners at home the dinosaurs are invade like some type of parade a la ferris buehler. It's the Macy's thing. It's the Macy's thing. They pretend to be inflatable. People watching think they're inflatable. They're like advanced balloons of all time

[00:21:39] that are able to sing and dance. Man's mind cannot handle the truth. No. Walter Cronkite. Especially 93. Walter Cronkite and Kenneth Mars play brothers. One of them, the good doctor, one of them, the villain. Oh, another names. New Eyes and Screw Eyes.

[00:21:52] Because one of them's got a new eye and the other one has a screw for an eye. Sure. Screw Eyes. Also I'm sorry. Give them their ranks. It's Captain New Eyes and Professor Screw Eyes. Yes. He has a doctorate. This is what I really want to get to.

[00:22:07] Professor Screw Eyes was supposed to be played by. John Malkovich, right? And in the promotion of the movie, they were like, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich. He dropped out very shortly before the film came out. They dubbed it over. No one knew why.

[00:22:22] Can I read this to you from Wikipedia? Sure. Actor John Malkovich was originally said to voice the role of Professor Screw Eyes but dropped out because of disagreements with the animators' vision of the film. Upon the movie's release, Malkovich was a vocal critic

[00:22:34] of the film's project, arguing that the scope of the script was not fully realized and the final product was subpar to say the best. In a Rare 2003 interview, Malkovich said, good ideas go to die in Hollywood. I worked on an animated movie about dinosaurs. Wonder which one?

[00:22:48] In New York. It was completely... Just narrowed down. Yeah. It was completely bureaucratized. They took something that had art in it and put in the laps of people that only cared about the bottom line and look what happened. Strong words about where bad.

[00:23:02] And then he said, yeah, projects like We're Back of Dinosaur Story, still being vague about which movie he's talking about. They just make you sick. That's why I left this town. It's all about the money, the bottom line is disgusting. That was the answer too.

[00:23:13] So why do you live in France? That was the straw that broke the camel's back. I thought he lived in France because he didn't want to pay taxes or something. No, because of We're Back of Dinosaur. Maybe he didn't want to pay taxes on his salary

[00:23:24] for the movie that he quit. All right. So there was... I feel like there was another one too. What was the other one you thought of doing? Okay. So I was between Josie, so I would say very formative movies in my childhood were rented constantly

[00:23:37] at Blockbuster where Josie and the Pussycats actually three, okay, Spice World. Spice World I would say is like... I also saw in theaters. Spice World, but like reviewing Spice World would be like reviewing like a hard day's night. It's a lot of bits. Interesting movie.

[00:23:52] It's fun. Alan coming also in that. I know, but not the villain. Yeah. I think that was between Josie and Charlie's Angels was very important to me. Which is also a good pick, but I feel like this is like an under sung masterpiece. Right. Exactly.

[00:24:07] Charlie's Angels is like a kind of fun movie. That's like a fun... Yeah. But like you know, they both... Both Charlie's Angels and Josie and the Pussycats open with the three main characters having like their names swoop across the screen. They each get a montage.

[00:24:21] They're jumping on a trampoline, presumably freezing in the sky. Trampolines were very in. Yes. In the late 90s, early 2000s. Yeah. There's a car wash montage. Sure. And in the end of Charlie's Angels, which like I watched it sleepovers constantly and like pretended

[00:24:37] to like play instruments with my friends was the... They do Blink 182 in the credit scene. Oh yeah, I know. I do remember that. Yeah. And you know Drew Barry, they're all just going crazy on those instruments and had them actually play.

[00:24:52] I thought it was the coolest fucking thing. I watched it all the time. Yep. Yeah, so that was great. But yeah, I just as like a little girl who just wanted to pretend to play instruments like this, Josie and Charlie's Angels were both very strong in that.

[00:25:09] Also very big fan of the Powerpuff Girls. Totally Spies, Destiny's Child. Don't know that one. Trilogy. You like trios of strong and powered women who play music and or fight. I have never heard of Totally Spies. I am not reading about this.

[00:25:22] Basically it's like Powerpuff Girls, but they're their teens and they each have their own color. And like yeah late 90s early 2000s, like I was the girl that like three way possible. That one didn't make it to the UK. They had like a butler. It was in the...

[00:25:35] Wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yep, we're getting into cartoons. Griffin doesn't want to talk about that. Never. David, your defense is that Totally Spies didn't make it to a place where you presumably vacation. What do you? Yeah, what would that affect your ability to watch the show?

[00:25:49] Were you gone for like while I was in theater? How long were you there for? Two weeks at most? Spring break? I grew up in Britain. I grew up in Britain. I grew up in Britain. This is so exciting. What? Do you know what's his age?

[00:26:01] I don't know. I've listened to the show for like two and a half years. This is news to me. There was another commonality between Charlie's Angels and Joz and the Plastic Cats. I'll get to later. Wink, wink, wink. But I also, I believe I've told this

[00:26:16] story on the podcast before. Joz and the Plastic Cats was my first date ever. Interesting. Sixth grade Gryphon. 2001. First date. First girl friends. And it cast the die for the rest of my life because she kept on trying to get me

[00:26:29] to kiss her and I did not want to miss any of Joz and the Plastic Cats. Any of these 98 minutes of fun. We broke up, I think about two hours later. I saw this movie on a date as well. But I was 15 so I'm a little more

[00:26:40] like, you know, I knew what I was doing. No, yeah. March 2001. Yeah, huge. Good month for you guys. Business was booming then. April 2001, Ang please. Is that smart? Am I wrong? Maybe you saw it in April. April 11th, 2001. Yes, I was in America in fact

[00:26:58] when this came out. Well of course, I mean that's where one lives. Now you're just being a tips. Now wait a second, I just said I grew up in Britain. I was talking about something else. Yeah. I didn't hear that. Joz and the Plastic Cats. Yeah.

[00:27:12] The best movie ever. The best film ever. Join the Army. It's a great movie. Join the Army. It was a giant flop. Huge. Terrible. It kind of tanked both the director's career and Rachel Lee Cook's career. Which is so weird. Rachel Lee Cook's career might not

[00:27:27] have made it anyway, but it definitely tanked her career. I hardcore disagree with that. Really? And here's another, here's a hot take I want to say. I mean I like her. I'm just saying. Right out the gates. I think Rachel Lee Cook would be huge today.

[00:27:39] I'm narrowing my eyes at you. Isn't she currently still acting? She's in stuff. She was on a show. She did home or TV. Home or channel movies. No, she was in Perception. Right. She was on a TNT series for a couple years. Free.

[00:27:52] Since then she's done like five hallmark movies in a row. She does do a lot of hallmark movies. Hey man, autumn and summer in the vineyard so. I'm going to throw my hottest take out right now. She went to the vineyard twice.

[00:28:07] We still got spring and winter to go. 2001. Best actress winner is Halle Berry from Monsters Ball. This is silly what you're about to say. Rachel Lee Cook should have won best actress. That's ridiculous. Rachel Lee Cook should have won best actress.

[00:28:20] I don't think Rachel Lee Cook's the best performance in the pussycats. Oh, okay. Yeah. Of the three pussycats I wouldn't put her number one. But they'd be supporting. They would be the Rosario's P. I thought we were going to go overall in which case. Perk of Pose.

[00:28:34] Yeah, we need to. That's a whole other side. I don't think Rachel Lee Cook is in my top five performances in this movie. But this film would win four acting on four acting Oscars in a just world. Coming would take. Is he leading?

[00:28:48] I think it only wins three acting Oscars. There's not really a lead male. Coming when supporting Rachel Lee Cook wins lead and in a rare tie. Yeah. Rosario and Parker split supporting actress. Uh-huh, great. Yeah. And Alan M. One's cutest guy in Riverdale.

[00:29:05] Just because they are not allowed to mention Archie. Yeah. No, but Alan M. was a big character. Why were they allowed to mention Archie? Yeah, I was always curious about that. I don't know, but I just feel like they don't.

[00:29:15] So I feel like there might have been like Archie comics was like, hold up on any Archie mentions. You can mention Riverdale. You can mention Josie characters. Do you guys think if this movie was successful they would have like spun off and done like Betty and Veronica?

[00:29:26] I mean, yeah. There were attempts to make an Archie movie for a long time and there was like a TV movie that they did of like a high school reunion with the Archie kids. Now there's currently a TV show. Right. But I think, uh, I remember there being

[00:29:39] a lot of talk in the nineties of doing like a Brady Bunch movie style. Oh, sure. Like a semi-carotidic. An ironic right. Archie out of time at a place. You know these two directors did the Brady Bunch. Really? Yeah. What? Do you guys do your research guys?

[00:29:55] They did not. I did. I heard you directed it. What? Hold on. Very Brady sequel? Yeah. No. I was at home. The two nerds are searching. Hold on. I am leaning back. It was directed by Eileen Sanford. Well, maybe they wrote it. Oh, oh, yeah.

[00:30:12] They did write it. That was the first screenplay. And they also wrote. So that led them to, they thought, we did that so we can do this musical out of Josie. They also wrote the Flintstones of Vavorock, I guess. Yes they did.

[00:30:23] And they also made Cantor Hardly Wait, which is a pretty good movie. And it was a good hit and they were like, let's test these guys up. Let's see if they can move up to the major. Did you guys catch that during one of the,

[00:30:34] when they're in Parker Posey's like secret lair? Like there's like a little like, kind of on screen that says, like Cantor Hardly Wait is underrated. It's very funny. Yeah. I feel like that, I feel like that moment alone just sums up like the whole

[00:30:47] purpose of Josie and the kids. Cantor Hardly Wait is pretty good. I mean, I've seen it like eight times, but like it was also one of those movies. I've seen it no time. I've seen this 25 times. You like this one.

[00:30:57] I know I could have seen it for research, but instead watched Josie about like five more times. Yeah. On top of the thousand times I saw it in my childhood. What I was going to say is that in a pre cinematic universe era,

[00:31:09] if you were someone like Archie Comics, your goal was split this into as many properties as possible with very restrictive rights and sell them off, even if they don't get made. So it was like Sabrina goes to TV. Right.

[00:31:22] We make a joke on TV right at this moment. Exactly. They're working on it. But like they don't want those characters acknowledging other properties because they want to make the money off of the sales of the rights. Okay. Because even if Archie doesn't get made,

[00:31:34] Universal sits on the Archie rights for like 20 years or whatever and they're getting money for it. Now everyone wants everything shaking hands, you know? Right. No, you're right. So there's no apart from Riverdale, there's no like further Archie talk. It's all Josie characters.

[00:31:50] But I remember I was a big hand of a barricade. So I would watch Josie and the Pussycats the Cartoon. One of the best theme songs ever. Classic. And when the trailers for this came out and I was a big Rachel Lee Cook fan,

[00:32:02] I was like, okay, so they just made it into a movie. What are you talking about? You were a big Rachel Lee Cook fan. You mean you liked She's All That? Excuse me. Give it to me. I also liked the babysitters club. Oh, I've never seen that.

[00:32:13] I also liked This Is Your Brain On Drugs. Wasn't that later that she did that? That was early. That was pre-She's All That. Rachel Lee Cook was the This Is Your Brain Egg. This Is Your Brain On Drugs Cracked Egg. Any questions? See, I was too old.

[00:32:27] I was already too cynical when she did that. I was like, that's fucking lame. I saw that egg and I was like, yo, I want to fry that egg. Even if the drugs are cool. I didn't even think drugs were cool, but even I was like, mmm.

[00:32:42] I was like, fry me up, baby. Were you a fan of the fact that she got selected by the Obama administration as a champion for changing the arts education? Yeah, I loved that. You kidding me? She does a lot of animated.

[00:32:53] Like, she does a lot of voice work. A fair amount. No, like a lot. I just wish she was still a big deal. I was a big Rachel Lee Cook fan. As I said, the trailers came out and the trailers just made it look like it was like,

[00:33:04] this is a struggling band comedy. Right. And so I was like, okay. Pretty loose adaptation of the cartoon. They're just sort of taking the band thing. It's going to be like a fun rock comedy. And I remember very early on watching it going like,

[00:33:17] oh, this is a surprisingly good adaptation of the cartoon. Because it's not like a Flintstones literal adaptation. But they still do solve a mystery. You have both of the cabots in it, Alan M. Like these supporting characters that most people would have cut

[00:33:31] because they're like, that's fucking dead weight. And then she straight up says I'm only in this because I was in the comic. Which I think is funny. Great fourth map break. Yeah, but it like hits all the tenants of a classic Josie and the Pussycat story

[00:33:43] with the whole central cast. Also is one of the greatest satires of our time. Unrecognized as a satire. Our generation's network. By Roger Ebert. How dare he? But that's my take on it. We'll talk about Roger. This is network for the 2000s. No, it is.

[00:33:56] It's a very, very funny movie that is very, like, you know, it's pointing right at that exact moment in the culture, you know, in the manufacturing culture. No, they very specifically wanted to, I mean, the opening. We don't think too mean, which is my favorite part.

[00:34:11] Like it's not even like some like, fuck you guys, you're all cheap. You know, it's just like funny. It's making fun of the things we all love. The music video with Dijour. I love Dijour. Straight rip off of Backstreet Boys. I wanted that way.

[00:34:25] The fish eye lens and the private jet runway. Dijour. But it opens with a song about ButtSex. I know. It does. Should we start with the movie? Are we going with the, like, right away? The movie, the movie starts as all great movies start

[00:34:44] with Justin Chatwin yelling straight into the lens. I forgot about that. Luckily that's it for him. Yes. He's in and out. I can handle Justin Chatwin if he's in the first 10 seconds. He's the fan who's like, I love them. Oh, like brothers. Right, yeah. Yep.

[00:35:00] But this movie, someone pointed out on the Reddit when Angie posted the schedule and people saw this episode was coming up. Yeah. This was shot by Maddie LeBateek. Coming off of Requiem for a Dream. Yeah, when everyone's like, ooh, this is the hot new

[00:35:17] cinematographer, this guy's pushing shit. And at the time everyone involved in this movie was written off as like, oh, they're slumming at paycheck. He's doing interesting work in this movie. This is an interesting looking movie and it's a rare comedy that is especially within the studio system,

[00:35:32] super stylish, super visually distinctive. Yep. And all of that aesthetically lines up with the comedy, supports the comedy makes it funnier. Yeah, no, I agree. So the beginning is this perfect taping of that music video style with them going from out of focus like gauzy silhouettes into like.

[00:35:50] Really cheesy choreography. Like not a lot of effort put into it. Right. And this is directly into the lens. Let's get our four biggest stars to do our cameos at the top of the movie. Seth Green. Faizon, Meyer and then the fourth guy.

[00:36:04] Who's the only one who can come back for the end of the movie. I know. Yeah, well Faizon, Green and Meyer are all in Can't Hard to Be Wait, I'm pretty sure. I believe. Yeah. Meyer who married the director. What? Wow, I'm dropping knowledge on you guys.

[00:36:18] Yeah, they got divorced in 2012, but they married in 2001 right after this movie. Good for them. I always thought F. Lon and Kaplan were a couple. They're just a good creative team. I guess so. Wow. That. Wow. Mater. Melissa, are you here? You're back?

[00:36:39] Wait, we haven't done all those bits yet. No. Melissa, we're going to do a bunch of bits with you later. Wow. This is nuts. Okay. So, Breckenmeyer's cute. Yeah, he's a cute boy. He's got the face. He's doing the hot face? But, but sex, Dejor.

[00:36:53] Stole it from Seth Green. Everyone loves it. Right. Right away, the movie is leading with one of its strongest qualities. Yeah. Which is this movie gets the music so fucking right. So fucking right. It's one of the greatest soundtracks in the history. Yeah. Of film.

[00:37:09] Because all the songs in the movie essentially are the fictional songs by the band other than playing like level keepers together for like 15 seconds. Like a couple sort of, you know, a diagetic moment. They got some good names on there. Yeah. Produced by Babyface. Babyface, letters from Cleo.

[00:37:24] Letters to Cleo. Sorry. Was, no, Fountains of Wayne wasn't responsible for the Dejor stuff, right? Because I know they did. The lead singer of Fountains of Wayne wrote Pretend to Be Nice, I believe. Oh, okay. Cause he also did that thing you do. Right.

[00:37:46] So yeah, I was thinking about that great fictional bands of film, The Oneeders. Yes. They have one great song. He was kind of running the table. Right. But they put together a really good group of people and the two things I love are

[00:37:58] that say for one example, which I'll point out just a moment from now. Oh boy. I think the songs are genuinely good. Yes. They're good parodies of the types of songs at the time without losing quality.

[00:38:11] And other than Seth Green, I think every vocalist they hire actually sounds like it could believably be the person singing. Seth Green though, very specifically, it is, it almost seems like very, that's like

[00:38:24] the punchline is that he's got a feather boa on, jumps in front of the screen and this beautiful voice comes out and you know it's not. He's the songbird of the group. Right. But it works. Yeah. But like the Rachel Lee Cook is dead on. It is.

[00:38:40] Kay Hanley of Letters to Cleo. Too Cleo? Well, yeah. So what happened was I guess they had a different artist and like she sounded like way too scratchy. Interesting. Right. They need to be pop punk not like right. Yeah.

[00:38:57] And I guess Letters to Cleo, they were, had just gone. They broke up. They were 10 things I hate about you. And then yeah, they were doing well. And then I guess that was kind of when she was starting to get her own work.

[00:39:07] I guess she had just had a baby. And then she was doing background. Yeah. So she was like, all right, gotta make that paper. And then they were like, okay, we need a new voice. We just fired this other person and it lined up really well.

[00:39:19] And I guess so Rosario also hilarious because Rosario can actually sing. Yeah. Everyone in the group obviously would go on to be in rent but the three of them saying backup vocals. So that is actually their voices doing the like. And they, yes.

[00:39:36] I remember because I watched the making of on the DVD a thousand times. It was really bad. But they show them at the final concert scene like playing without the track. And it's like, they did a lot of lessons. Yeah.

[00:39:51] They learned how to look like they could be in a band. And you watch them doing it without the real track and it doesn't sound great. But they're able to just play a note that visually they really sell it more than most fake bands I think. Sure. Yeah.

[00:40:05] I don't, yeah. That doesn't matter to me because sometimes the real bands didn't look like they knew how to use guitars anyway. But that's what I love that this movie they feel visceral. Yeah. Fissural. That's what they are. Yeah. Fissural.

[00:40:20] So going from DeJour's music video onto the plane. Right. Things are tense. The Target plane. The Target plane. This is one of those movies where like everyone fucking thought it was what it was making fun of. They were not paid for getting a single word.

[00:40:37] They were not paid except for Puma provided t-shirts for the concert scene at the end. No other payment. Nothing else. I knew that part. Yeah. I think this is my hot take on Josie and the Pussycats. Josie and the Pussycats is the sponsor scene from Wayne's World. Right.

[00:40:54] If they made it a whole fucking movie. Yeah. And down, but then also expanding into the idea of they're being screwed over by the people who are just trying to like abuse their like their own weird special thing and make it corporate. But this is the problem.

[00:41:08] Roger Ebert liked Wayne's World gave it three stars, but a bunch of girls do a fun little parody and it's dumb and stupid. I mean, I do think that's something that doomed this movie. Very different. I do love Wayne's World.

[00:41:20] Well, Wayne's World is obviously satire because it's the SNL boys. Right. I do think for one this is like the height of like selling out fucking. So I hate sellouts, you know, like a fucking pretty package. I'm not going to shrink wrap smiley crepes toothpaste.

[00:41:39] You read a stone. What a loser. I read spin man. Yeah. I'm cool. Bob Guccione Jr. Motherfucker. Ben, did you relate to the to the goth girl in the. In the van. You were done knowing at Virgin Megastore, but you were like God. Definitely.

[00:42:00] I was like, oh, you listen to blink one eight two. Sorry. I listened to millen collin ever heard of them. MX PX. What a cool dude. Yeah. Who else? Who are your guys? But guys were the attires. Sure midtown Jimmy eat world.

[00:42:17] Oh, I saw them do a jazz set once. How were they? Jimmy it world. Good. Yeah. Yeah, they played at the blue note. Did you like sour on Jimmy world when they got big or were you kind of like they were my guys? So I stuck with them.

[00:42:29] Yeah. Yeah. Saves the day though. Yeah. Through being cool still holds up. You and pilot should have a spin off fucking. Oh my God. Talk about this shit. Yeah. Pop punk was such an important part of my development and watching this movie and

[00:42:47] being brought back to this time. Sure. Things were better. Yeah. No social media. Wait, are you telling me you think that things were better when you were a teenager and you had all the energy in the world? You were having sex with first time.

[00:42:59] David only 2000 kids would understand this. Wait a second. Only kids from the naughties. I do think that sexism dooms this movie because people don't take it seriously at the time probably because they're like well Josie and the pussy cats. That's like that Archie cartoon.

[00:43:17] Like that can't be smart. Right? But I even remember when the trailer came out. You're a young man at this point. Yes. I'm saying in the still emerging sort of film blogosphere. The film blogosphere. Yeah. Oh my God.

[00:43:34] It sounds like we should nip that in the bud if we have a time machine. When it was like a quick time Apple trailers. Oh man. I used to download so many quick time Apple trailers. That took like an hour to load. Medium quality baby.

[00:43:46] When like Ena cool in places were like fucking posting this trailer everyone was like oh God this looks like a new low for product placement. Sure. Because people just saw any images in the trailers that there were logos everywhere. Right.

[00:43:58] And then so that was sort of like preset in where when the movie came out everyone was like yeah but it feels like they're kind of having their cake and eating it too. Which no they're not they're just fucking eating cake.

[00:44:08] But what's so fucking funny about this is I was. They stole the cake from the man. Wow. That gives me too much credit. Well I was so obsessed with this movie as a kid and when I was like kid like I probably watched it was like yeah correct.

[00:44:20] How old were you when you first saw this movie? I don't I was. Did you see it in theaters? Probably not. No no no no. This was like purely like. Like a classic. Went into blockbuster.

[00:44:29] My cousin was like what do you want to watch I'm babysitting you and I was like it's Spice World or Josie again and she's like again and I'm like yes. But it also sounds. We got Josie and stuff like probably eight.

[00:44:39] If you were standing video boxes you want to see three women on the cover. That's what you wanted to see. You want to see Tolly Spies, Charlie's Angels, Powerpuff Girls. You want to see three female characters together.

[00:44:50] I'm just like if I look back at like all my favorite things it was yeah. I would like. I used to like fight kids on the playground over like who is cool cooler like the Pokemon or Powerpuff Girls.

[00:45:01] I don't get the fuck out of here with the Pokemon. I excuse me. One rule to Detective Pikachu was coming to solve the mystery next year. So look out for that or like our detective Pikachu. Wait a second.

[00:45:17] Someone posted a great screen cap of the video game and it was just apparently like Detective Pikachu. I'm getting some weird feedback in my head. It's like background. Do you see anything on the levels? By the way, what's that big white machine you installed in the back

[00:45:34] of the studio today? Don't worry about that. Oh okay fine. That's just to make the audio better. They're like so shiny. Wait make it crisper? Oh he's mad at me. I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't know what that was guys. No it's no big deal. Nothing's happening weird.

[00:45:49] Yeah we'll just go on with it. To get us back on track. Yeah. I am great though right? We all agree. Yeah of course. I'm just curious about the entire one. He's the new Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah. I'm just suddenly I'm just bad at your outfit today.

[00:46:01] Just looks fantastic. Thanks guys. You just really put it together. He's so pretty and popular. I'm about to wish you a hello fennel. I'll take it, thanks. Anyway moving on. Pokemon Go take a walk more like it. Pokemon Go hit the streets out on the media.

[00:46:18] I'm going to send it to you. There's some great screencap of Detective Pikachu in the video game where he's just like sitting in a cafe drinking coffee and the guy's like he's not even a detective. He just wants coffee.

[00:46:28] Have you heard what Detective Pikachu sounds like in the Japanese game? Like what the voice is? Yeah. No. Because he sounds like Dan DeVito. Oh that sounds good. It's a Japanese Dan DeVito. That sounds great. Anyway Misty is an empowered character in the Pokemon cartoons who rules.

[00:46:45] Cool one girl in the whole thing. Well you know Brock is I mean. What? I mean Brock is a. Are you saying Brock is female representation? No I don't want to speculate on Brock's sexuality but he was a very interesting character for me.

[00:46:59] He's a little bit of a nurse for goodness sake. It's a little performative. Hello nurse. Sometimes I think Brock might be laying it out a little thick there. Look there. Back to Powerpuff Girls the superior television show. I mean I loved Powerpuff Girls.

[00:47:12] I'm not really a fan of you. It was fantastic. My point being I forget where I was going. I just saw Joesie when I was about eight. It was very important to me. I watched it all the time.

[00:47:20] What was so funny about it is I just remember being so obsessed with it as a kid thinking they were so cool. Loved all the music. Right so you're not even thinking about the satire right? No not thinking about I did not.

[00:47:29] I remembered like the McDonald's you know bathroom. I vaguely remembered like the Rivellon room. But like I didn't and then like you watched it. I remember watching it again as a teenager and when I was older and being like there's like a lot of ads in this

[00:47:43] and then like the more it got I'm like it's in every shot. And I'm like oh my god it was totally on purpose. Oh my god this is an amazing satire and it's just so funny to me that like I was the like completely clueless like child

[00:47:55] who just took it all in and was like just the music not aware of like I'm gonna buy Tide later. But you do love Starbucks. Yeah Starbucks is a new duck and donuts. I just want to say that's odd because like this

[00:48:07] is a weirdly plotty movie and it's mostly about this corporate malfeasance. Like it's almost shocking to me that it's entertaining to a child. Right but it was just it was very fun. It's funny to think that yeah it was like it was also targeted at children. Right.

[00:48:24] Was it a PG-13 or was it PG-13 because that was a big deal like like someone says comments fans. Yeah like parents were like they took Archie comics this beautiful pure thing and said shit one time how dare they now Riverdale they're like there's like a murder

[00:48:39] cult in the other. I don't know what they're doing on Riverdale. Hot Archie books like on CW at six in the morning. I don't watch Riverdale anymore but the tweets are just like back and all is happening on that show. I'll briefly go through like an Instagram.

[00:48:55] I was trying to look up like any Josie. It's yeah it's also hard to like research Josie without coming across. I do like what they have done with yeah now so the Josie and the pussy cats Val, Mal and Josie are all black in the Riverdale show.

[00:49:11] Oh yeah no yes yes yes yes. I think yeah the cast is good they're all interesting but yeah it's like another 20 they're very horny. I also think the whole like twin peaks stuff is like a little cheesy sometimes but

[00:49:23] that's my kid is some people like that show it's mine did you know that Archie comics insisted on a tooth brushing scene in this movie because that was wholesome. That's great. Did you know that? Okay yeah when do they brush their teeth?

[00:49:36] There's a car and they like soak each other like they do that but no there's a scene where they're just chatting and they're in a bathroom or whatever. I think it's like an opening montage. To preserve the wholesome image of Josie and the pussy cats.

[00:49:49] With random cats in their trailer that they definitely can't afford because they're eating ramen. I will say I definitely like this is one of those movies I raised Rom Leon and she also loved it from like age six. So she would write.

[00:50:04] And the thing that she mostly loves is female friendship movies. And I do think even if you're too young to do anything their friendship feels really genuine and earned in this movie even from like the opening montage where you see all the sort of like B-roll

[00:50:19] footage of them together. There's just a real general like genuine camaraderie chemistry between everyone except for maybe the two leads you know it's like dialed up and funny you know any scene Alan coming or Missy Pyle. Is not dialed up she's not like playing a I

[00:50:37] think she's playing a big which is what I like about it I think she's got a weird comedic rhythm in this movie. I think one of his weird griffin things is she's not playing I feel like she's like Harry Potter like the central like the lead

[00:50:51] but like everyone around her is like more interesting. I think she's got a weird comic energy. No idea. She fixes cars. Yeah, she's cool. She's cool. I mean Rachel she's cool. She spells her name funny. She's always hard to look up because she's like right Rachel. Oh, A-E-L.

[00:51:11] Yeah. Got two ways in there. Yeah. Wait a second. Uh-oh. That rustling that tree. Also why'd you put a tree in the studio? Where are the studio? I thought it would make it greener. Well, you're right. Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah. What are you doing in my tree?

[00:51:30] My studio tree? Excuse me. This is my truffle of tree. Oh. Are you? There must be some kind of mix up. See, Ange, I don't know. Sir, I purchased this. Hurrah, hurrah. Sometimes we get a weird amount of people with mustaches coming to the studio.

[00:51:46] Yeah, they just broke it. Almost as if a corporation bought 16 ads and were now scraping the bottom of the barrel for mustachioed characters. Hurrah, hurrah, let me be. Okay, can't wait to get sued by Dr. Seuss or whatever. But are you the Lorax?

[00:52:02] No, I'm the cat in the hat. I'm the cat in the hat and I hang out in the truffle of tree. We all know this is what the cat in the hat sounds like. Are you a Scottish?

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[00:55:12] Well our guests often do, our surprise guests often do it. No it's Dollar Shave Club dot com slash check. Sounds like they should maybe call it five Dollar Shave Club but nonetheless thank you very much for the advice. I go back into the tree.

[00:55:23] All right that's enough of that. Back to Josie and the pussycats. What a huge star. Which one? Horton or the cat? Both. Well let's look at box office though. Who did better? Who did better Horton or the cat in the hat? Horton. I think Horton did better, right?

[00:55:39] I think Horton did about 170. I think cat in the hat did about 105. Nailed it. 154 to 101. There you are little. Yeah, it was a little low. A little high on Horton. Anyway, we go into DeJorah's plane. Ann just isn't it fun to be on this podcast

[00:55:58] and see how fucking stupid it is. Oh my god. They're fighting over everything. The can has the out of date facial hair. Who's making the face? Yeah. Brecken's funny. It's my face. Not respecting Dr. Zayas. Dejoramein seat belts. Is one of the best lines. Dejoramein's crass.

[00:56:15] It's so funny. And then it comes up. Hey, I noticed something a little weird when I was listening to. To the new slave mix or whatever. And Alan coming goes, interesting. Let me check on that. Alan coming plays their manager who is called Wyatt Frame.

[00:56:32] Hot off of cabaret. This is like Alan coming really starting to get. Tony award winning performance. Tony award winning performance which I saw on stage. And we're going to talk about what else he was hot off of. But that's coming up later.

[00:56:44] Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so much. He's also gearing up for the anniversary party. Yeah. He's going to direct a movie people. Yeah, his sole directorial effort. He co-directed and co-wrote with Jennifer Jason Lane. That's right. That movie is okay. Yeah.

[00:56:59] He goes in the cockpit and goes like take the Chevy to the left. Take the Chevy to the left. It's a Domiclain reference. Domiclain, how have you seen me? Also pilot of the plane is one of the directors. Oh, I didn't know that. Fun little, funny.

[00:57:14] Fun little packed, jumps out of the plane. Right. Land in Riverdale. He takes us a little cell phone, goes. Plane crashes. Plane crashes which is hilarious. Yeah. What year did this movie come out? 2001. 2001 but April. Yeah. Innocence reigns. This movie could not have come out a year later.

[00:57:32] That's true. We're going to need. It's a joke about all the real people who've died in plane crash. They changed Lilo and Stitch after 9-11. They did it was supposed to be a Stitch hijacking a plane. Stitch hijacked a plane. A commercial airline. Do you know this?

[00:57:47] This is the real thing that happened. I did this. Stitch hijacked, yes. It was like fully animated. And then an alien ship that's trying to catch Stitch is shooting down the plane. Yeah. It's so bad.

[00:57:58] And they had to reanimate it to be like, oh, we stole a spaceship. They like painted a spaceship over the airplane and then cut out a bunch of shit. And the Spider-Man fix and after 2001 was the, all the American flags. Oh, right. Yeah.

[00:58:12] They didn't have to worry about it in this way. You mess with one New Yorker, you mess with all of them. That's like my favorite. I love that line. I remember the groans in the audience in the UK. Really? In New York people went ballistic. Not in London.

[00:58:28] Oh, I saw Spider-Man Homecoming or maybe I guess it was, there's so many movies. Captain Civil War when it just cuts to Queens. I saw it in Queens and oh, it was so beautiful. It was fun. It was real fun. We had a good time.

[00:58:44] Everyone went, hey, that's where we are. That's this burrow. We hard cut from coming saying we're going to need to buy the new thing. Are you putting us on track? Wow. Oh my God. Mr. Back on Track. Hard cut to coming, yeah. And then it goes to...

[00:58:55] We have been talking for an hour. A music video for three small words. Which I remember going with my dad and my brother Jamesy to the Foot Locker because James needed to get new sports sneakers. New kicks. Foot Locker is the new... Yes.

[00:59:10] And he took an hour and a half to pick a sneakers and the Foot Locker TV was just playing the three small words music video in a loop. Okay. Which was like a month before the movie came out. So you knew everything?

[00:59:23] I was like, this song fucking rules. I knew it by heart but I also had seen the music video. So many times that when in the movie it goes from this very polished like they're a

[00:59:36] pure rock band to the reveal of them in the bowling alley, killed for me because I had bought the music video as a real substantial. They're already famous at that point. Right. And it's really well shot. Also that song also secretly dirty. So is it?

[00:59:54] Punk Rock Prom Queen, Brown Paper Magazine. There's a line, don't you want to come inside? Like they purposely made it like really dirty. Six whole hours, five long days. They wrote that song. Four all your lies.

[01:00:06] To come undone, those three small words came way too late because you can't see that. They say two twice. But there's another line about like glossy double spread open up inside your head. Oh yeah. Yeah. Glossy double cover spread opened up inside your head a black cherry paradise.

[01:00:23] Half the sugar twice. No one's little red Corvette which is a song that song is about vaginas. Yeah I mean Prince. So Prince has never written a song that wasn't dirty. So this whole song is about vagina? Well I mean Bactra Lover is about but.

[01:00:37] I know it is but I've been listening to this song. I don't think the whole thing is. It's just got a lot of innuendo you're saying. Right, with the purpose what they wrote this one at the last minute.

[01:00:45] They were going to do a different movie at the start. A different song. You're gonna do a different song and they I think they were just like we need more songs or whatever and the directors wrote that one and they were like

[01:00:59] I think they had the opportunity to make it a little they thought all the other songs were a little too polished so they wanted to make one a little more grungy

[01:01:06] and they're like let's see what kind of dirty shit we can kind of sneak into this without getting in trouble so that's what the song is kind of like them sneaking it in. Again don't know how they open with Bactra Lover it's fantastic. It is.

[01:01:20] But this song was also a little bit sneaky. Of that decade. I listened to this all the time. It's so good. And three small words are my favorite. Let's remember that in 2000 there had been the O Town single liquid dreams I had to double check

[01:01:33] which is the dirtiest pop song of all time. You're forgetting the theme to Ghostbusters. By Ray Parker Jr. That song all about how good ejaculating feels. Busta makes me feel good. You are the star of my liquid dreams. So fucking dirty if you look at the lyrics.

[01:01:52] Alright so we've got a... Visile man hiding in your bed? Playing crashes. When it comes to your door unless you just want some more. I'm still mad that we didn't get like a sexy ghost scene with Kate McKinnon. Oh wow.

[01:02:05] They really should have had the repression of the Dan Akrod. That would have, yeah. That Kate McKinnon, oral sex, ghost dream. She would have made a great face. No one on the internet would have had anything to say about that either. No I don't think so.

[01:02:18] Was I talking about this with you Ben? How weird it is that the ghost blow job in the original Ghostbusters is a dream sequence within a montage. It's very strange. Yeah we were talking about this last week. You guys talk about that every week. Yeah.

[01:02:32] Dan Akrod's getting blow job dream. Well because there's just so many layers to it that and it's just at the end of the day weirdly unnecessary. It feels like he refused to take it out of the script.

[01:02:46] It's almost as if like sex gets used as just like a punchline. Maybe I think just one excuse to do his hilarious crossed eyes routine. Right. It is a good face. But it's like he refused to take it out of the script and write them was like fine

[01:03:01] we're gonna shoot it but it will literally be a dream in a montage. But invalidated as much as we can. And in a movie about ghost being real. Let's have one fantasy sequence that lasts for three seconds during a musical montage about business booming.

[01:03:21] So Josie and the pussycats. Right. Boston X-ray film. Yeah. He's in Riverdale. He finds the pussycats by almost running him over. Right. I mean if this movie gets to the plot. Well I like you forget some stuff just they're fucking failing. They got poor branding.

[01:03:39] They're wearing little hats. The cabits are making fun of them. And... And... Paulo Costanzo. And... Oh my gosh. Wait throw those over. I feel like a punk rock prom queen right now. And she's brought us cat ears. These are good cat ears. Where'd you get these?

[01:03:55] At a dollar store in Queens. Yeah. Merchandise spotlight. Merchandise spotlight. For the listener at home. The first of four merchandise spotlight. Yeah. Yeah. Paulo Costanzo is their manager which is how you know you're fucking up when the fourth lead of Joey is your manager.

[01:04:10] Maybe they should have bumped... When the sixth lead of Animorphs is your manager. Maybe they should have bumped coming to lead so Costanzo could have taken supporting your manager. I mean he would have taken it. He's so good in this. Man Costanzo's Wikipedia profile picture is weirdly hot.

[01:04:23] Check it out. Yeah. I would. I love him in this movie. Who is he in this movie? He's the manager, you know the... Alex Cabot. Oh okay. It's Alex and Alexandra Cabot. The guy with the crazy outfits. Yes. And he's very susceptible to the marketing machine. Right.

[01:04:39] Is their manager... Cries outside of a Steve Madden. Fucking up. People roll up just to fucking mock these girls. You'll never be as big as DeJore. Right. And Alan M. Josie's biggest crush, all he wants is for her to fix the carburetor. Yep.

[01:04:53] You don't remember any other parts to his bit. Josie... Did I overheat the something? Something? So you're saying... That's not as catchy as the other one because Alan M wrote it and he sucks. Yeah okay. I wanted to get to this. Alan M. He's so boring.

[01:05:10] He's a fucking dwee. Get the fuck out of here. It's small pool in Riverdale. He's the hottest one. Do we feel that Alan M is like a little bit of a manic pixie dream boy? Yes. Well yeah, except he's like barely manic. No, he's not manic.

[01:05:22] He's a blank slate with which to ultimately support Josie. Right. But he's just standing there for waiting to get asked out or whatever. That's great. Exactly what he was in the comics and the cartoon though. He was a hunky guy and you were like, why aren't they dating?

[01:05:38] He's this beautiful boy. He's this beautiful boy. Nothing is contributing. Gabriel Mann, he's kind of cute I guess. He's in stuff. It's just lame too. I just want to say I don't like that he is like a folk act. Josie is way cooler than that. I know.

[01:05:53] He should have been like a punk or if you wanted to make him really different, make him into like hip hop. Right. I mean, I don't like that. He has like a harmonica rig and a acoustic guitar. Yeah, I know. His mouth organ is super lame. So late.

[01:06:11] In the comics, I forgot that he basically just looks like Fred from the Flintster. I mean, from Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo. He's just a skinned Fred. Yeah, with like re-skinned. Not skinned. He's not veins and bone. I mean, like, yeah, he looks exactly like, right. That's the thing.

[01:06:24] It was just like a boring handsome guy. I know. I feel like I'm happy. You don't want to say it. Well, you don't want Josie to be mean to him. No. But like I would kind of dig it if like in the end, like he misses his fucking

[01:06:37] shot and she ends up with some other cool person. He only is interested her when she's in this like smoking hot dress. He's like, oh my God, it's almost as if I didn't notice you before because I'm only getting to adjust to you now.

[01:06:47] They almost she's all that her even though she fucking. She looks the same. She looks the same. She will be in the entire movie. Okay. So this is what I want to talk about. So she's all that they make the effort to make her dorky.

[01:06:58] She takes off glasses. Initially. I know that she is smoking for the entire movie, but at least she's like Tony Tale overall. Overalls. She's doing the painting, you know, like she's sort of like, you know, in this she's all that from minute one. She is all that.

[01:07:12] And then yeah, okay. She wears some like blazers, no shirt. You know, she's got some cool looks once she's been mega-recorded, but like she's, she's smoking from the start. Hair is so good. Did you know they like just burned up all her hair? Really?

[01:07:29] Is that what ruined your career? Is she bald? Is she like white ass Willy? White ass Wally. I fucked it up. God damn it. Go on. I'm so flinched. Sorry. They kept dyeing her hair red while they were filming. It's like a very weird, it's very reba.

[01:07:44] Yeah, yeah. It's very reba. They kept dyeing it and they, I think it just like really fucked it up. So she ended up like cutting it all off, bleaching it. So she had like a very kind of blonde cut underneath and then they shoot.

[01:07:59] So I think I haven't like analyzed this, but I guess in some parts of the movie it's like legit hair and other parts, it's a wig. Because it's supposed to look like she has dark hair that she has dyed red over.

[01:08:10] Like they're not going for like a real red head. But you can definitely afford on their like zero dollar budget. This movie cost 40 million dollars. It was pretty expensive. That's a lot of money for 2000. And I remember like Entertainment Weekly.

[01:08:23] It made like 15 domestic and like half a million bucks worldwide. Like it made nothing outside of the United States. Entertainment Weekly, like Spring Movie Preview. They were like this is going to be huge. This is like a spring blockbuster cartoon adaptation movies were big.

[01:08:38] Rachel Lee Cook was big. She's all that. Charlie's Angels had been big. They were like this is fucking we're right, we're rolling. Right, Girl Power. And I saw it. I went on a date to see it.

[01:08:50] The girl I went with it was like, this was like her number one most anticipated movie of the year. Sounds like a real griffin. Yeah. What if we realized that the time that we had both gone on dates

[01:08:59] to Josie and the Pussycats, it was actually with each other. You guys were actually at the same theater. Yeah. And you should have just been with each other. And we were dating. And we were dating. You're just saying like, What if it turned out we were dating?

[01:09:11] Are you trying to make this ship happen? Maybe. Maybe. Then should we go? No, you should start shipping. No, I'm going to stay and just watch. Cool. You are the peeper. Yeah. Good call, Ange. All right. So I feel like you've graduated to certain titles.

[01:09:28] I don't know for some reason I'm thinking about that right now. Go on. Can you check the levels, Ben? Oh, it's fine. Okay. Don't worry. Give me more money. Thank you. Sure. There you go. Great. That'll do. Ben, do you need... Do I have some money?

[01:09:45] Would you like some? Yep. Thank you so much. I don't have any money in bro. It just seemed like you... No, I appreciate it guys. Thank you for the money. Oh, and massage David, you're too much. Oh wow. I mean that I can give you anytime. Nature's money.

[01:09:59] The massage. The money of hands. What were you going to say about your date? Were you going to brag? No, no, she was just super pumped for this movie. I was not dumped. How cool.

[01:10:12] What you were saying was they were positioning this as like, yeah, this is like the spring teen-centric hit of the summer. Right. Right. What wasn't. Was not. It didn't open well against essentially no competition. Oh. We'll talk about the box office later, my friend.

[01:10:31] But I do think, I think it was hampered by Archie Comics brand was like not cool at all. No. And you know, Rachel Lee Cook might not have been a star. We weren't smart enough to recognize. Why any comedy points?

[01:10:45] You know, I think Rachel, yeah, I think Rachel Lee Cook maybe was not the draw that they hoped she would be. I don't know. Don't you think if Rachel Lee Cook was peaking now, she or let's say five years ago. She's like, you know, she's 40 now.

[01:10:58] She would be like a legend now in your narrative. I'm saying, I'm saying, were she born 10 years later? Uh huh. She'd be having a real fucking strong go of it on the like Emma Stone runoff parts. No. I think she'd be on TV.

[01:11:13] I feel like we're maybe ignoring the star power that developed from one Miss Rosario Dawson. Exactly. The real fucking star in this movie. And then the irony of, so the plot being, you know, Val's storyline is that she feels rejected.

[01:11:28] Like her face is literally blocked out by a guitar. She is marginalized. She's the one woman of color in the group. Yes she is. And very much is pushed to the side. Wait, Tara Reid is white? Yeah. Crazy.

[01:11:41] But the only time I think Raze is like vaguely acknowledged is when Alan coming trying to explain them saying they're like three Christina Aguileras, but one is very 10. Or they're like TLC, but two of them are white. Like that's the joke right there.

[01:11:55] But I also, I don't think the Captain and T'Neil thing is accidental. That is also babyface. Oh, I'm aware. So great. But the fact that they're like in both cases, once the act gets big, they're

[01:12:05] like maybe let's make it a little lighter and get the one, you know? Right. Yeah. And she's watching it holding onto a pillow going. And then little did we know Rosario Dawson would go on to be in Men in Black 2 the next year. Yes. That's true.

[01:12:19] She would go on from there. Yeah. She was also in Pluto Nash the next year and 25th hour. She had a really crazy two thousand. Rent came out in 05, as did Sin City and rent came out the same year. That's true.

[01:12:30] This seems to be more formative for Ange than for us. I just Googled it last night. I love Rosario. I love Rosario Dawson. She had been in Kids. Mm-hmm. That was her debut, which is a very wholesome movie. When are we going to do that mini series?

[01:12:43] Larry Clark. No. Well, who's wrote it? What's his name? Harmony Karina. I want to talk gummo. When we do a Ben's Choice mini series, it will be Harmony Karina. He's got a new movie coming out, doesn't he? Oh yeah. Shia LaBeouf. Yes. Anyway, she's got game.

[01:13:00] She's great in. And she's been some other stuff down to you. Remember that? The fucking David DeCovney. No, Freddie Prinze Jr. and Julia Stiles and Selma Blair. And Ashton Kutcher. What's the David DeCovney mini driver? Return to me. Right. That's a Bonnie Hunt picture. One of the few.

[01:13:17] In which her husband dies and the heart gets transplanted and David DeCovney and she falls in love with David DeCovney. She falls in love with the new owner of her husband's heart. I've seen it. It's kind of dark.

[01:13:27] It's like they took to literally the heart as a visual representation of love. Yes. And they were like, well you fall in love with someone's heart, literally. Right. Exactly. The muscle that helps their blood. You must marry the person who has that organ. Yeah. But you're right. Okay.

[01:13:41] So, Angie. Some other things she was in. Shattered Glass. I forgot she's in that. Right. She's absolutely gorgeous in. Since she ran Clerks 2. Yeah. Kind of the love interest. I've seen Clerks 2. I remember Kevin Smith was launching like an independent Oscar campaign for Rosario

[01:13:59] Dawson, that movie much like David Lynch with Lord Dernin in Land Empire. Yeah. And he was like, you know people say this is a hard performance. Imagine having to fall in love with Brian O'Halloran on screen. I mean.

[01:14:11] And it's like, I mean that actually is a fair point. Yeah. That's a good point. Unbelievable. Guys who are recognizing her saints, which she's amazing in. You know, it does take her a while to like. Kind of build up. Yeah. Because I mean she's always in stuff.

[01:14:24] She's like, yeah. What is like the quintessence? Like when you think of, I mean, rent was probably her biggest like first, like huge. I guess so. When I like, when you think of like her early. Yeah. Because she's the lead in rent. Like she's taking. She sings.

[01:14:37] The Daphne Ruebner bago roll. She does not really get to do juicy. No, she doesn't. And she's, I guess, yeah. I now I'm getting annoyed. I think she because I think her's area Dawson rules, but now I'm realizing like, you know,

[01:14:49] she's a recurring character in like the Marvel Netflix shows like come on. What is going on here? Part of the Marvel Netflix. Exactly. So good. I know she's like credited in a lot of them, but still it's like, you know, where's her TV show or her starring role?

[01:15:04] Like yeah. And I'm looking for this. Didn't she do that shitty Catherine Heigl sort of like flipped fatal incident? Isn't that a unforgettable? Yes. Right? Yes. And you know, she was Batgirl in your favorite movie. Oh, that's her best. I go Batman. She's so good.

[01:15:19] Which is very funny and went to Harvard for police. She showed up for Sin City too, which I mean credit for showing up, I guess. I think that functions as community service. And of course, and trance is about her vagina. Okay. Okay. It literally is.

[01:15:33] That's the plot point in that fucking awful movie. No, it's very weird. It sucks. And he pulled me that movie. Yeah. Anyway. And she was auditioned for Val. Shoot. Beyonce. I did know this and she wasn't funny, right?

[01:15:48] She was very shy, they said, which if you have studied Beyonce as I have. This is in her shy period? Yeah. Well, no, she's, she's, I think she's genuinely, she keeps to herself and

[01:16:00] she had to keep make a persona Sasha fears to, I mean, she may, when did Goldman come back? Gold member the same year? Year after? My friend. Okay. So she was working up to it. No, it's 2002 Griffin. What was Carmen? Jesus Christ. Carmen hip hop.

[01:16:14] A Carmen hip hopper is 2001. I think that's the same time. Right. So she was like kind of venturing into like, they're all like in their 20s at this point. Yeah. Also auditioned. Aliyah. Wow. Yeah.

[01:16:26] I know that which is a bummer team and think about also a bummer left eye Lisa Lopez. She wait what's there's some kind of a curse. I know. I know. I know it's audition. Both of those women were almost Val in this movie about like rock stars

[01:16:38] dying tragically. Wait a second. Also auditioned. John F. Kennedy Jr. Wait a second. What's going on here? I was going to make a 9 11 joke. I knew you were. All right. I decided that. Speaking of curse careers, the other pussy cat is played by Tara Read

[01:16:54] in her best performance unequivocally. Right. There's no argument. I'm trying to even think of if there's a, I mean big Lebowski. She's pretty funny and I was gonna say that's her second best performance. She's weirdly terrible in American pot. Awful.

[01:17:07] And I think it's because she's better doing comedy. Like she's better as like in this, you know, She gets to just like play with this and have fun. Like play like this. So I will say so of the besides the terrible special ed joke

[01:17:20] in this movie, the one other joke that makes you go, err, The sign. Well, no, the sign is actually fantastic. She says, hunk, hunk if you love pussy cats, cats is blocked out. I think that she runs away with her arms up.

[01:17:33] I think the joke is funny because she runs her arms up. Yes. Fantastic. But I do think it is like a little like, All right, what are we gonna do with the third one? It's like she's dumb and blonde. She's very dumb in this movie.

[01:17:44] That was also, I mean that was the dynamic in the cartoon. That's her character. It is the dynamic in the cartoon. But it's a little tired. It's reductive. I will say though, the one thing this movie does

[01:17:52] that I think is like a little fun with her is that she gets Wyatt right away. Yes. She says don't like they go in there and like, don't you think this is weird? And she goes, yeah, isn't it weird? He ordered like a cappuccino and he wiped out

[01:18:05] all the foam and like, why didn't he just order espresso? And also the way he was folding his napkin. Like it's like he's worried that he doesn't fit in. Like she immediately nails down Wyatt, which what is revealed at the end of the movie. And she's very intuitive.

[01:18:20] She has the line about the chill going up her spine because of Fiona. That line is really funny. She's on the O. It's not the O. But like she has a few lines like that where you're like, oh, like she, She nails all her lines.

[01:18:33] I also think she's really funny in the scene with Carson Daly. Like just genuinely. Oh, what a great sentence. Carson Daly. I just want to, I'm just going through a career. She dated after this movie for like before.

[01:18:44] He's casting this and that whole scene is playing off of the fact that everyone knew them as a couple of times. They were engaged and broke up. They had like some weird tempestuous romance. I mean, she's had a, you know, an interesting life. I miss last call, man.

[01:18:58] You miss last call. You don't even miss T-R-L. You miss last call? Yeah. Would you like DVR it? No, absolutely. That's what Ben woke up in time for last call. Last call was on at 1.30 in the morning. Am I correct? I need a fix, baby.

[01:19:11] I think there are two reasons why Melody kind of works in this movie just by being a sort of hooky archetype. I think she's funny. It's a hooky archetype. One is Terri plays her without judgment because I don't think she's in much of a position to judge.

[01:19:24] But I hate when I see actors playing dumb characters with a sense of like, look how much smarter than I am then who I'm playing. And that gets to the other root of the thing is I think they write her as not just being like stupid,

[01:19:38] but being very childlike and genuine. The key is how sincere she is about everything. The moment that makes the character for me is when Josie says if I could go back in time change everything, me and I said to you I would and she goes,

[01:19:53] if I could go back in time I would meet Snoopy. I love that line. It's a good line. With all of my heart because you know she's going to say something like a little, you're waiting for the line. And then for these to say a fictional character

[01:20:04] that doesn't exist. It's not what it is. I also like the movie they're charmed by that. They're like, oh man. And she's in a rotating car about to be murdered. That is such a good bit. Yeah. That's so fun. I love you.

[01:20:19] I want to say the last three lines of her Wikipedia page are really fascinating. Okay. In August 2011 read publicized that she had married Bulgarian financiers Zachary K. Then in October announced that they were not legally married. Next paragraph, she and dated infected mushroom Israeli musician.

[01:20:37] It is is an from 2013 to 2014. She waited. She dated an infected mushroom. Yes. That's what she did. And then next paragraph, did William S. Burrows write this fucking Wikipedia. He just threw the letters up and they fell down in 2016. She and actor Dean May never heard of him.

[01:20:54] No. She participated in marriage boot camp reality stars, but were rejected when it was revealed they were not in a relationship. What are you doing, Tara? Come on. I mean, American Pie is fascinating because literally also had they figured out that cast got a chance to be

[01:21:09] a movie star like big ensemble cast and they were like, I guess all of them are leaving. Got like multiple leading roles. Shannon Elizabeth, Tara Reed, Mina Savari, all of them. She was in after this she was in American Pie 2. American Pie 2. She's in Van Wilder. Right.

[01:21:27] In American Pie 2, like her character storyline is that she's having a lot of sex in college. It's the rule of three joke. Right. Yeah. I remember the scene in Van Wilder where she shows up at the final party and there's like a really like gauzy,

[01:21:40] you know, sort of entrance shot of her. My friend leaned over and went, oh my God, she's so hot. Who was your friend? I was like, really? Yeah. Even when I was a teen, I was like, I don't think I don't think I'm attracted to Tara Reed.

[01:21:52] She seems like too much for me. I don't think I could handle Tara Reed. She just felt like it was just... She's on scrubs, you know, playing like the cigarette voice kind of like girlfriend. Yeah. Like she was like, she was kind of cute in like two episodes

[01:22:05] and it turns out she's sort of like... I feel like shortly after she just veered into like, I'm hanging out with Lindsay Lohan now. Right. She was in that scene. Group. She was also my boss' daughter. Right. And alone in the dark. Right.

[01:22:18] Where she said famously doing the press tour, I'm like, character in this is like smart. Well put. Later quoted by the president of the United States. And she had a reality show called Terradice where she traveled to various places. Sometimes I feel like we're living in Terradice.

[01:22:37] Anyway, that's Tara Reed's career. We did all the Pussycat's careers. Right. Are we going back to the plot? How you doing, Ansh? Doing good. So the plane has crashed in Riverdale. Yeah. Oh great. Oh, fantastic. Josie and the Pussycat's are just sort of straight busking it.

[01:22:59] The guy, the owner of this store they're playing outside is threatening to call the cops. Right. And so they walk out with their instruments as Wyeth is on the phone driving a pair of us by the dashboard light. Right. And he stops the car. Also in space.

[01:23:11] They're walking by in slow motion. They look at him holding the instruments as number one band in the world. It's a very good shot. Science being removed. I love just him taking the shit out of the CD case

[01:23:22] so he can see how they look in a little loose site case. And then he looks directly at the camera and raises one eyebrow. It's like a Frank Tashlin movie. Like this movie is so fucking on point. And I think it's very upfront about it too.

[01:23:37] Like I think it's annoying that people didn't get that. His car says Ray Ban in stickers across the top. Like because I remember early on, like there's that yeah, the bathroom where there's just literally Starbucks logos behind them.

[01:23:47] And there's no way you look at that and go like, huh, they were trying to fool me, but I spotted them. They had a themed bedroom. Yeah. It's like a joke. Guys, it's funny. It's also really tight. It's really cohesive.

[01:24:00] It has a very well identified sort of like pitch that's reflected in every aspect of the filmmaking and the performances. The score is so funny in this movie. John Frizzle. Yeah. Who weirdly like has written a bunch of episodes of TV now, not as a composer. Okay.

[01:24:20] He wrote an episode of The Office and he's written like 11 episodes of some procedural that I'm forgetting. Sure. But the score is really good at doing those dramatic stings that like get laughs. Yeah. Anytime Wyatt's doing anything like remotely devious. Right. And they do this great structural joke

[01:24:36] where they cut to Wyeth like whining and dining them at the cafe of the Virgin Megastore, right? And only after they're like deep into the negotiations that they mentioned. No, they're at a Starbucks. Oh, they're at a Starbucks. They're at a Starbucks.

[01:24:48] I think he goes to Mega Records first or after. I can't remember if he gives them. He goes to the record store. Oh, and that's when he, right? Grab the teen and that's when we know. I think that happens before he meets Stozy. That happens, yes.

[01:25:02] Because then he gets the call from Fiona and he's like, yes, yes, I'll handle it. There's also that really great bit where the MTV news thing is pre-recorded. Yeah. It's so funny that MTV like allowed this to happen. I know. It's just so squarely being mocked.

[01:25:15] Same with Carson Daly. It's crazy to let him play like a murderer in this movie. It's really funny that he plays a murderer in this movie. Was the show that was on like, what was the fake, the show that he's been? Making the band or together?

[01:25:27] Behind the music? No, no, behind the music. Is that on MTV? That's on MTV. So it's the same network. But no, it's just like MTV, it's not only that Carson Daly's like playing a murder. It's like MTV is being so mocked for being the like bottleneck,

[01:25:39] the pipeline that like feeds us this shit. Children of America. It's not even cool. Like it's like lame. Like this movie is like MTV is fucking lame now. Tierra is lame to a bunch of cardboard people. Like it's an MTV was like, oh yeah, it sounds funny.

[01:25:55] Let's do that and VH went behind the music. They're all Viacom and this is a universal movie. Like I know how does this happen? Mega Entertainment Company just take their brand and fart on it. So why it turns them into the next Dujor number one the next thing.

[01:26:10] The Dujor Dujor. I was gonna say, I love that they hide within the cut. That's a bit of a time jump. The fact that he actually hasn't heard them at all. Yeah, because he's having the conversation with them. They go to the bathroom.

[01:26:21] They go, but he's never listened to our music yet. He presents them the contract. Yeah, he's here with real. Rockstar. You watch a record deal. Funny. So goodness. So good. Where is his Oscar? I remember my where is his Oscar truly for this

[01:26:36] performance him and we'll get to Parker and spend hopefully like 20 minutes on her. But like, yeah, sure. That's what we need to do. We need to spend 20 minutes on her. My brother Jamesy. Sure. I remember him coming home being dropped off

[01:26:48] the great James Newman coming home being dropped off by his friend's mom who had taken him and his friend to go see Josie and the pussycats on a play date. Fair. And she was telling my parents how bad the movie was. What? And she was like Alan coming.

[01:27:02] It's embarrassing. I have no idea why he did this after Cap-A-R-A. He's such a good actor. And that woman was married to a record executive. So you think maybe she couldn't see the far some of the trees though?

[01:27:14] Kind of because it's like this performance is fucking dead on. He's fantastic. What a perfect comedic pitch. Yeah. But then we quickly fast they get successful. Yep. Of course there's a little montage of the final charts. Final charts. Funny.

[01:27:30] Very quickly followed by isn't it crazy this has all happened in one week. So funny. So funny. I also love. There's the shot when they see the billboard in Times Square where they're rebranded as Josie. Josie. What do you want to read a comic book?

[01:27:42] Go watch an animated series. Go see a motion picture called Josie and the pussycats. But they. Prior to that says would you rather go see the pussycats. Or. Three fierce ferocious ladies. Yeah. They have this beautiful like matte painted Times Square. Right.

[01:28:04] They even like take Times Square and put fake billboards over it. They can press all of Times Square into one corner. Right. So that's literally like you can't see anything. It's crazy. New York. It looks like a Kira or something. It's like unbelievable. This movie is great.

[01:28:17] And they're in their beautiful like loft apartment. We should like as we've already noted a million times any scene there is some sort of product placement in the background somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. They have the themed rooms like you say they each have a theme.

[01:28:31] That's what I remember as a kid was like that was like the extent of the marketing. I was like it's why is there room like Revlon themed anyway. And then like McDonald's shower with the fry guy Lufa. Yeah. Like it's so funny.

[01:28:41] That's my soul and the lipstick on the mirror. And then yeah what happens as soon as they. So Melody started to get these messages. Right. Right. That's their big song. They see the machine. They see the big white mixing board thing that puts this little message on 3000. Right.

[01:28:58] Which looks a lot like that machine right behind the truffle tree. But anyway. I'm going to go for it. Okay. Okay. Thank you for more money. I appreciate that. It sounds exactly the same. Here you go. There's everything I own.

[01:29:10] Actually you can do you want to borrow my credit card? Great. Yeah. Thank you so much. Here's my contract. You now play Arthur on the tech. Have fun making a TV show. Wait a second. I think you actually just wanted to give me that one. Wait. Yeah. No.

[01:29:24] No, no, no. It's cool. So it's really easy. It's really easy. Oh, all right. Yeah. You won't be tired at all. So I'm a moth out. Pretend to be nice. Pretend to be nice. Yeah. They're overnight the biggest band in the world. Right. Sold out. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[01:29:46] They haven't done a concert yet but now they're doing a concert. But they have a big concert coming up. That is going to be a pay-per-view on like AOL. It's a pay-per-view on AOL. It's their first show ever. Before that. It's being like sponsored by Kodak. Right. Yes.

[01:30:00] You're going to get your 3DX headphones. 3D, yes, yes. Your Kodak headphones. At a arena that does not exist in New York City. Of course. It's so large. But it's like the Beatles playing Shasteadia.

[01:30:10] It's like here's the coming out concert for who we're telling you are going to be the next great band. But before that. For the New Dijour. Before that they got to put some FaceTime in with a head of mega record. That's right.

[01:30:20] Throwing a ball and celebration of herself for discovering another great band. Her name is Fiona. She played by Parker Posey. She's great. Parker Posey coming off of like Best in Show. And she's like the height of her power. She's like Indie comedy queen. So good.

[01:30:34] And the moment where it's Fiona and her whole get up flanked by like four hunky dudes. They're lifting her up. She's descending a staircase. Maybe one of the greatest like entrances in film history. To like the Hollywood musical cover of pretend to be nice.

[01:30:50] Yeah, I think that might be of all the songs. I think my favorite just might be like they're like why do you do what you do to me baby. She's just like lavishly like and meanwhile Alan Cumming is like the genie in Aladdin.

[01:31:06] Just like running up to random people being like isn't she fabulous. I also I feel like obviously these performances are heightened. Right. But Fiona reminds me a lot of a lot of real people I know in the entertainment industry. What?

[01:31:22] Boy, how are you saying that Hollywood's full of phonies? Yeah, but also also the like absorbing like I now had some small fingerprint and something that's like a big sensation and then needing to like enter to the music and make it like part of your identity.

[01:31:37] Where it's like I'm the one. And then lands with her arms out and goes welcome to your party as if and you know surrounded by photos of her face. Ice sculptures of her name. Right. And she just wants to be friends with the pussycat.

[01:31:51] She wants to gossip and eat junk food. She puts the one potato chip on her plate and goes such a pig and then puts it back. The Pringle is really that scene is really surreal. This scene is very this whole sequence is incredibly surreal.

[01:32:06] I believe we are introduced to her first to this. She does the FBI on the phone. Right. She does the demonstration of this abliminal mess. We haven't talked about Eugene Levy. That's very funny all blue. He's like denim on denim in that video. Yeah, he's very funny.

[01:32:21] Now I would like to point something out. Okay. That this character and sort of like what she is trying to do subliminally. Okay. Is an interesting metaphor for the Facebook scandal of today. Okay. It is controlling people through the media. Oh, Lord over here.

[01:32:39] And it's just really interesting in how ridiculous this seems right when watching this movie. But it essentially is now happening. Mm hmm. You saying I can't trust Facebook? No, but you can trust Instagram. They're not owned by Facebook, right? No, they're good. Great. Instagram is a new face.

[01:32:59] That was, you know, that was like a conversation starter. Sure. He's ledger. Question. Oh man. Ben, how do you feel about the fashion you were texting me about Fiona's outfit? Great question. All the fashion is great. Hold on. Let me put on my soap shoes. Yeah.

[01:33:19] Which come with a grind plate in the bottom so you can jump and grind down staircases. Three people are going to love this. I'm going to put on my Stoosey sweatshirt that I bought at PAX Sun. All right.

[01:33:33] And then I'm going to throw on my Tommy Hilfiger Carpenters jeans. Your point is that it's 2001. Wait a second. Are you telling me this movie was 2001 encapsulated in clothes? Yes. Okay, thanks, Ben.

[01:33:46] This movie is so obsessed with with fans of the moment that it actually works so well as like a time capsule. It's I think this movie is the perfect music. Because it's like so right because it's so specific. Right. Right. You got to crack open a Zima.

[01:34:03] But you don't even drink, man. That's the line in the movie. I think I'm going to start. I think they're going to start. Yeah, which is actually kind of clever because right, it's not just wholesome shit that they're trying to brainwash people. Right. Well, they got it.

[01:34:16] So the idea is that they're brainwashing the youth of America because they have disposable income from babysitting and like youth of America are cool enough to they can't just be told to like something. Right. They got to be tricked sneak it under music. Right.

[01:34:32] So that is what happens. We were introduced to Parker Posey and her amazing outfits. With feathers where when she turns we get like a fun little sound effect like a little whish.

[01:34:42] Eugene Levy line where he says rock and roll music or as some is known in some cultures rock music is really funny. He is really good. I know. And then Fiona has an actor or fun that was no I said.

[01:34:54] Yeah, I like that this movie treats Eugene Levy like he's Brad Pitt right, but he's perfect and that scene is perfect. Yeah, you've got Tom Butler who later would play the president in something or other right. He's a president or something. The Butler did it.

[01:35:11] Yeah, you play the president. Starts as an FBI agent. Yes. Becoming the president. But I love I mean we'll get to this X-Men 2 isn't he an X2 X-Men United. I think he is right. I think that's the one that he's the president.

[01:35:26] Are we going to go on an X-Men tangent? I mean Alan Cumming. Alan Cumming though my other favorite Alan Cumming performer. It is a pretty good Alan Cumming but like Kruller on the record my favorite X-Men. In comic or in French. Comic and music. I love his music.

[01:35:41] My crawler. Not finding. I'm not going to look this up. We have to talk about Joseph. He's my favorite in comics and in movies. Parker Posey brainwashing the youth of America trying to turns out she has something even more devious. She's trying to hide from the FBI.

[01:35:56] She's trying to make herself a American government. Her bit of where she's just like where she keeps like being like yes, of course. And then says something like oh wait. That was close. You'll never see it coming. She keeps doing that. It's funny though. She sees what coming.

[01:36:08] The way that she plays the arch like kind of evil character. It's so like perfect. God I love Parker Posey. I have such a crush on her. She is a dream. Yeah. So her, technically her and Wyatt. I mean Josie and the Posey cats is a comic book.

[01:36:26] They are comic book villains and I would argue some of the best comic book villains. Super villain. We have seen in cinema. I'm pointing it at. It's my answer. There's a good point. Yeah. Point for a point. She's better than I would say some Marvel villain.

[01:36:40] One point point. And she's been in a lot of Marvel villains. A lot of Marvel villains. You know low bar but still. Well, I'm saying okay. She's not as good as Mal Keith. We are not going through a list of every Marvel. Wow.

[01:36:52] I think we should go through a list of every Marvel villain right now. Mal Keith. Parker Posey would be a good Marvel villain though. She'd be a good Marvel. She should have been in Thor. Yes.

[01:37:01] Did you see Chris Recklson saying that making that movie was like having a gun in his mouth? Yeah. Chris Recklson seems like a not chill guy. Not at all. He's also the like making doctor who was like having a gun in his head or whatever.

[01:37:13] He seems dressed out by making things. So he made Thor 2. Yeah. Okay. He's Mal Keith. Can I just make a quick observation? Sure. I just wanted to like get to say it on the podcast. This is your chance to like whatever you want to yeah.

[01:37:26] Everyone I would just like to point out that Thor Ragnarok is just the emperor's new groove. Thank you very much. It opens with him speaking directly to the camera. Holy cow. So you're saying he's David Spain? He is not ready to rule his land. Right.

[01:37:44] And he's a little too cocky and then an older woman steps onto the throne and arguably is you know has a better right to that throne. Right. Sure. But it also has a slightly homicidal edge to her.

[01:37:58] No evil you know but like you know like you kind of get her point like maybe she should be in charge and then the leader. And then Carl Urban is Cronk. I was going to say. I would say Valkyrie might be well oh no.

[01:38:09] I think Valkyrie is Poncho. Valkyrie is Pacha. Yeah. Well who's the Hulk? Or Valkyrie and the Hulk kind of both Pacha. I feel like Valkyrie and the Hulk are both Pacha. Oh you're right. There is half of right.

[01:38:17] Because she doesn't want to help him and is kind of like forced into it to get some type of benefit out of it. Right. She's the gruff heart. Right. Hulk is the sort of brute force. And she well I would also argue that she is a brute force.

[01:38:30] Yeah no but he gets like launched out very far away from his phone and it's from his home. Yeah. And then he has to sure he has to find his way back. He's gone like a spiritual and physical journey of like trial.

[01:38:42] And he's humbled by the journey and having to defeat. Wait a second. And he gets his eye plucked out in the Emperor's New Groove right? Yeah. And didn't Sting write six original songs for Thor Ragnarok that were all cut out? Yeah.

[01:38:54] Because they were all on the zither or something. I mean it was short on Earth a kit but it was fun. Earth a kit did die in between making those two so bad career month. Yeah exactly. She could have been a Ragnarok otherwise. Yeah. All right.

[01:39:10] So anyway also Dark World's best Thor movie done at man. I like the end day. I'm with David. I like Dark World. Yeah it's the best one. I don't hate it. Ragnarok is fun. But anyway it's the Emperor's New Groove. He's literally.

[01:39:22] I mean now I'm just gonna watch Emperor's New Groove. More like the Emperor's Old Groove because it's already been done. Like who's Ko and Ko? What's his name? Great movie. Yeah. We should have done that movie as well as Josie and the Fussycats and We're Back

[01:39:35] of Dinosaur Story. Yeah. Whatever it's called. So the plane has crashed. So they had a plane crashed in Riverdale. No I don't know. We covered it up in credits at all. This is a universal picture. Oh should we start recording? Yeah.

[01:39:49] I did want to mention this is a Mark Platte production. Yeah. Oscar nominee for La La Land. Stolen Oscar for La La Land. He's the one who got up. He's the one who says like what we didn't win anyway or whatever. Yeah.

[01:40:01] No, no he's the older guy who goes up first and his speech was Here's to the ones. Here's to the fools who helped me dream. Right. My aunt like then that was the intro for listing off the things and then they snatched his Oscar. I know.

[01:40:14] I felt bad for him because. You mean took the one they deserved that. Yeah. And gave it to the best movie of the deck. If I had to go up on any stage, but the Oscar stage and then I

[01:40:23] delivered a really cheesy speech that I had clearly written beforehand. Here's to the fools who helped me. I was told I had an one. Yeah. I would have literally vanished from existence. Adam shame. If you make a corny speech like that it's like what he just

[01:40:36] won an Oscar. Give him a break. Yeah, exactly. It's like kill the beast. So I mean like this is a short movie. I mean they're doing the propaganda and then they make their move against Val because they can tell that Val knows what's up.

[01:40:52] Josie listens to a desk man in the bathtub right she does which is send them to tear out to get murdered right, which is really funny and there's also the Bill Cosby joke which used to be the funniest part of the movie.

[01:41:03] The punchline being wouldn't it be funny if Bill Cosby was violent against women at the time it was absurd. Harry Spears man. He's TP and Jerry McGuire. Yeah. And yeah, so they both kick their asses. They do and Carson Daly gets beaten up and then he's hosting TRL.

[01:41:24] By a cardboard Matt Davis. I know it's really funny. I just like that he's hosting TRL. Yeah, I do too. And he's struggling to put on this. Exactly. It's so nasty about TRL. Like it's just I just appreciate that.

[01:41:36] I remember going to school and telling everyone like Carson Daly is the villain of the movie you have to see this thing. And did anyone go see it? It was very popular within my grade at school. Kids went to see it. I just think it didn't cross over.

[01:41:48] Clearly like it I mean if kids had seen it it would have made more than it made. I think you're right. I think it would have made like a 30 million not a 14. They have all that disposable income. Right. It just shelled out the money.

[01:42:01] But everyone thought this was like a 70 movie at Moe at least it was a 70 million dollar film. Well, it wasn't. I know. So but yeah, but then there's yeah. So Rachel Lee Cook is bad. Do you like the scene where she's a bad person? Who's a rock star?

[01:42:14] Great suit. I am. Her suit is amazing. So she's wearing a leopard print. A leopard print blazer with one button done and no clothes underneath. It's a great look. Can I say my borderline gross thing but it's important and it has to be noted. Okay.

[01:42:27] I hosted a screening of this a videology with Pila Verouet, Fran Passon, future guest. Passive future guest who this movie is basically like if you kind of like took Pila's brain and just sort of like mashed it onto a screen. Like eight ego super ego is Josie Thal.

[01:42:43] And Melody. Very much so. But watching the film on a screen of video gene from everyone, I realized this is the most brahless movie of all time. Yes. Okay. Like pretty pointedly, right? I'm not saying there's any larger point here.

[01:42:59] I just think it has to be acknowledged, especially the more famous they get, the more brahless they get. That's true. And and it's broad. The broad does not feature in their in their most high concept looks. What's more uncomfortable to me is the like low rise

[01:43:12] genes and them being like capable of doing anything in those somehow. It's a lot of like low rise genes. Barely mid-riff. Low rise genes. I mean, it's 2001. The mid-riff is like the costumer. Exactly. Like you start on the mid-riff and then you figure everything else out.

[01:43:27] What do you call that top? I was asking beforehand that comes to a point at your belly button. I don't know why you're looking at me. Ben's the fashion expert. It looks like you wear a bandana around your torso. Exactly. It's like a bandana.

[01:43:37] It's not like a halter top. It's just like a non-shirt. Right. I don't know how to describe it, but it is. Terri never wears a shirt that has like sleeves and a mid-riff. No. You know what I mean? Like there's always something removed.

[01:43:50] She's lucky if there's like a back to it. Right. Yeah. Yes. But why turns Josie bad? Has her stand up Alan M. The hottest guy in Riverdale. He plays a shitty music for a shitty audience with just Alexandra. Yeah. But he tells her it's canceled though. Yes. Right.

[01:44:09] He has to do that whole thing. Yeah. Yes, hold on one second. He's funny. A lot of flip phones in this movie. They're great. They flip out. Yeah. Good tech. Well, it's great and everything was better at this time. Oh, I see.

[01:44:21] And everyone who is young now or is old but wasn't young then, you suck. Sorry you missed out on the best times. No, you're right Ben. This is definitely a time to be shitting the teenagers of America. It's not like they've done anything important recently. Oh yeah. Okay.

[01:44:39] I'm just saying, I mean it's just really too bad. They didn't have a portable CD player. Those are, I mean. Yeah. Ideal tech especially, you know when you would just walk with them and then it would skip while you're on the bus.

[01:44:54] And you were the greenier like CD wallet with your 10 CDs in it. Right, exactly. Because that's all the music you got to listen to. I have to hang out on the subway with the score to ants in case I felt like putting that on.

[01:45:05] If you wanted to interact with media you could go get some really cool magazines or go hang out a record store instead of downloading bullshit, posting on fucking social media and spending all your time on a fucking computer. Listening to podcasts on your phone. Fucking podcasts?

[01:45:21] Wake up people. How do you even make money? If there are two things we hate, they're podcasts and social media for podcasts. Dammit, I can't even. You know what? I'll take it a step. He's standing up folks. He's sitting down.

[01:45:35] And I'm a good boy and I like it. Great, thanks good boy. Josie, she fucking trips. The CD falls out. She realizes the trance she was in. Her bus pass also falls out. That's what really kind of kicks her out of it.

[01:45:50] Also can we point out that the slow song being You See Me and it's about like layers underneath. I love that CGI shot where they go through her headphones. Into the CD player. That's a good shot. Oh, it's very 2000s. The workings of the Discman.

[01:46:06] Oh man, I love my Discman. But she calls up the cabits and now in the final chunk of the movie they work in the Josie and the Pussycat solving mysteries element. Which is we have to figure out what's going on here. They check that machine.

[01:46:18] Figure out the machine is... You slept with Mr. Moviefault. That's a funny line. Missy Paws is really great in this movie. Mr. Moviefault is also great. Very funny. Very 2001. Very much so. Jerkin. Jerkin. And they... Well, here's what I love. I guess...

[01:46:37] Well, are we getting to the revelation of the mystery? The car scene, right? Yes. Because Josie goes to confront at the concert and she shows up at the concert. Yes, because it's like the kid that... Parker Posey busted on them when they're at the recording.

[01:46:51] When they're at the recording. But she takes the hostage. Because they're going to blow them up in the car. The MTV News sketches already recorded. Which is really funny. She's got to tragically in a car. Memory for friends. And, you know, the final subliminal message is revealed.

[01:47:07] Which is that Fiona is really cool. Fiona is the prettiest girl in the world. And... She doesn't like Mr. Moviefault's line read. So then she starts... She cuts it in. Right. Which is also a good bit by Parker Posey.

[01:47:20] If I was a guy I'd want to date her. I'd want to be her best friend. Parker and Cumming. This is like a Scooby-Doo scene. They're unmasking. But that's the Hanna-Barbera thing. That's what I'm saying. It's funny. That's what I'm saying. That was my point. I made it.

[01:47:35] Hanna-Barber used to be animals who were parodies of popular figures and then they moved to teenagers who solved mysteries. And that was their big contribution to the Josie Mestres. I always wanted to solve mysteries at abandoned amusement parks and the such. Well, bad news. You're too old.

[01:47:53] You got to be a teenager or you got to be a fire detective. I'll never be a teenager again. 2001, Ben. Better times. Yeah, 2001 the best year in American history. What I love about the final showdown is that the government gets away with it,

[01:48:07] pins it all on Alan Cullen, making Parker Posey and they never reveal that they were a part of the conspiracy. A cynical movie. I love it. And then go on to say actually we're going to shut this whole thing down. We figured movies are so much better.

[01:48:19] Josie and the Posey guys are the best movie ever. Join the army. It's so funny. And we all did. When was that Simpsons episode that has the same plot line? It's after this, right? 100%. It's like a total riff off of this. 100%. The one within Sink in it. Yes.

[01:48:32] It does have that great line where LT Smash is real named is revealed to be Lieutenant LT Smash. That always gets me. Yeah. So the movie rules and they get up on stage and they do a great concert and then they destroy it.

[01:48:43] She gets Fiona to destroy her own machine. The FBI agents come in. Dajor reveals that they've been behind it the entire time. The three actors who were busy in a full cast are replaced by the monkeys also in a cast. He also was booking a lot of shit

[01:48:55] at that time. That's the one thing that bugs me. Dajor thing? The fake Dajor? It makes Josie and the Posey cats look like a cheat movie that fucking Donald Faizon and Breaking Mary couldn't clear their schedules. They're glowing off at the time. Faizon was on season three

[01:49:09] of Clues. I'm aware. I was watching it. But I mean, come on. They couldn't show up for another day of filming. I agree. I agree. You know. The Metallica joke is. Yeah, that's good question. I thank God every day I knew the lyrics to enter Sandman.

[01:49:25] He's so dramatic the way he says enter Sandman. I remember that guy. The final song. Right. On the album. Yes. Is the exchange between her and the boyfriend in the song? I don't believe so. Oh, like where he cuts in and he's like

[01:49:43] and she can somehow hear him across the arena. Just going, I love you, Josie. And just like, I love you too. And then they make up. I'm really selfish. I'm going to disrupt this concert for everyone else. Right. I'm very boring.

[01:49:55] But I'm a man and I'm in your presence. Hot as a river now. Kiss me. I'd like that Josie says like we're going to play something for you. If you like it. They do the ear thing. If you don't, that's cool too. Right. Takes the ears off.

[01:50:09] And it's like, if we're going to make it, we got to make it in a way that's real. Right. It's her money ball moment. Well, we also kind of miss skip over the point of like, not only our Wyatt and Fiona like secretly evil and whatever.

[01:50:23] This is the Scooby-Doo moment. But it turns out we obviously know the whole plot. It's just to learn that. Fucking nerds. But they're both insecure and it's kind of vaguely hinted at throughout the movie about what do you mean you don't want to be?

[01:50:35] Isn't, oh no, Wyatt says when all the, somehow their high school, those girls show up at their door. Right. Don't you want it? That's the point of being rock stars. If you can't like, it's grew over people from your high school. And then it kind of like cops.

[01:50:50] Because he was white-ass Wally. He's been pulled in for 15 years. I think it's brilliant to say all adults are just insecure people. Especially in the entertainment industry. Exactly. You own it. You try to make beautiful art about it or you become vindictive and want power. Exactly. Yeah.

[01:51:05] It's a beautiful movie. It's also funny to think how the music industry used to have power. I know. That's the other thing that's a real trip about this movie. Like a label? What the hell? Who cares? They don't even talk about like Napster. Like the idea of pirating

[01:51:18] doesn't even factor into this movie. You know, it was like 99-2000 was when that started. Well yeah, I mean, I guess I started using Lime Wire. No, I didn't. No. I was such a big Napster kid. I was a big Napster kid. I like Soul Seek.

[01:51:35] I remember taking like two months to put together like a mixed CD because Napster took so long in Dila. You would download the right pictures. Oh, God. You would download the wrong version of it. I had the wrong version of like a Beatles song

[01:51:47] for like years on my phone and realized like my friend was like, this is not the Beatles. Let's all find our mix tapes or like mixed CDs from this time. I know I can find mine. Oh yeah. I can find mine. I have 20%. All right. I want them.

[01:52:07] When this episode comes out, we got to put out that track list. All right. But speaking of track lists, Angel's brought in a little bit of a merchandise spotlight. That's true. We do have to do a merchandise spotlight.

[01:52:16] Courtesy of my brother as a gift for this past Christmas. Oh. Because I almost got one for you and I felt like I remembered you posting that you had gotten it. I also have bought this for myself. Yeah. It's great. It's great.

[01:52:30] Because at the time of the release, it irked me how close the soundtrack was to what I wanted because it was like music from Josie and the Pussycats, an original soundtrack. And then it's all Josie tracks other than Dajore. And I was like,

[01:52:44] I wish they had gone the extra mile and just committed to this being an album by Josie and the Pussycats. Right. And now, Angel if you want to present this. Yeah. I have a record from Mega Records. With the same cover that they have in the film. Right.

[01:53:00] Not the movie poster. Nope. Of Josie and the Pussycats. It is the 15th anniversary, I believe. I'm taking this. Oh, the record itself is Purple Leopard Prince. Whoa! Damn, that's a hot record. Pass that around. It's great. Oh, it's got the Mega Records logo.

[01:53:20] And they originally released this. They did a screening in LA where they had the woman from Letters to Cleo perform the song live. And they had Rachel Lee Cook, our finest actress. They actually had the whole cast. They had everyone there.

[01:53:36] Rosario made it at the end, I guess. Oh. Yeah, it was cute. It was so sad because Val is left out. And then I think she was on a flight or something and got caught up. But she eventually gets to join the panel. That's awesome.

[01:53:49] But it's really great because they have, so they interview both directors. I can't remember if Babyface might be interviewed in that too. I think so. And he talks about how like he'd never really worked on anything like Pop Rock or whatever.

[01:54:00] So this was kind of like a challenge for him. There's interviews with like Tara Reid and Rachel Lee Cook. You want some other people who got special thanks on here? Sure. From the music industry? Yes. Biff Naked, remember her? Nope. That was a thing.

[01:54:16] Adam Duritz from The Counting Crows. Tommy Matola? Sure. I think it's interesting all these people who worked on the music. And so the fun thing about this factor. Matthew Sweet? He had a girlfriend. Remember that album? Vaguely. Good album. Anyway. It also comes with a 45 of Dijour.

[01:54:34] This is what I really love because it separates the Dijour into its own corner. And it gives you a pure Josie album as if they're a real band. That's pretty sweet. Ben's looking at it. And I think one reason you were confused

[01:54:47] is the poster for Josie and the Pussycats says in theaters this April and then below it says movie soundtrack and scores in stores March 27th. They free-released the movie soundtrack. It was like playing. I watched clips. Also, I was on YouTube and I was watching...

[01:55:04] There was apparently a TRL. MTV's New Year Special had the cast of Josie and the Pussycats leading into 2001. It is wild. That is wild and that is the most 2001 thing in the world. But it sounds like spring, like January into March

[01:55:21] was them marketing the hell out of it. Playing it on MTV as they're mocking MTV. At the Foot Locker. They made their play, but it opened to $4.5 million. Number seven. I mean, insane. At the April 13th box office. I mean, insane.

[01:55:37] It crushed at the Wuburn blockbuster the next year. They were like, jeez we made the money back for the budget just off of that. So I distinctly remember one of the movies that outcooked Josie this weekend. I don't know if it was in the top five,

[01:55:51] but I remember it had no hype going into it. Didn't open at number one, but still outperform Josie. Which is Kingdom Come. That opened at number six. That movie isn't bad. I saw it in theaters. Not bad. It's a funny, you know, ensemble comedy. Okay.

[01:56:07] So we have six and seven established. Let's go through number one of the box office. But yeah, Kingdom Come. Kingdom Come's not bad. All right. So number one of the box office. It's just third week at the box office. So it's running the table. Last weekend my friends,

[01:56:21] it was number one at the box office. The weekend before. Number one. It was number one at the box office. And it's third week. It has grossed $68 million. I saw this movie in theaters. It's very funny. What's the final gross? Final gross is $112 million. It spawned three sequels.

[01:56:39] It's comedy. Action comedy. Spy kids. Also featuring Alan Cumming as a villain. What's his name? What is his name? Fluke. Fluke. That sounds right. I just remember the thumbkin. It's the F. I think his name is Fluke. I'm looking it up. I'm looking it up. Fegan Fluke.

[01:57:00] Thank you. That's his name. I wasn't really disputing it, but... Great movie. IMO, Robert Rodriguez. His best film. Spy kids? Yeah. No. What's his best movie? From Dustle Dawn. No, it's called Spy Kids. No, it's definitely from Dustle Dawn. I'll tell you why. Which is an amazing movie.

[01:57:17] I'll tell you why in Spy Kids. Because Spy Kids doesn't force you to listen to Quentin Tarantino describe oral sex. Yes, well that's a fair point. That immediately knocks points off of from Dustle Dawn. Fair point. Spy Kids 1 rules. Spy Kids 2 is pretty good. Not bad. Buscemi.

[01:57:33] Buscemi's funny. He flocks in it. He plays Dr. Romero. He makes his little Harry House and Monsters. And Spy Kids 3, I don't really remember. Spy Kids 3D Game Over? Yeah, it's almost fly. It's a perfect movie. Is it? Yeah, it's a perfect film. What's the fourth one?

[01:57:48] All the Time in the World. And was released in 40. There was a scratch and sniff card. That one doesn't share characters. It's a new family of Spy Kids. It's Jessica Alba and... No, no, no. Alexa Vega and Daryl Sabar in that movie. Appeared briefly as elder statesman.

[01:58:03] But the main crux of the movie is... It's new. It's like Joel McHale and Jessica Alba and their two kids. One of whom has a hearing aid. Spy Kids rules. Love Spy Kids. It's great. Also I think it was just a genuine box office surprise.

[01:58:19] I don't think they saw that movie making 112. No, it was a big hit. And they even re-released it later with deleted scenes. They did a special location. I remember that. Yeah. There was a shark sequence that they added back in. Sweet. Rom Loved, Spy Kids.

[01:58:31] It's a great movie. Number two at the box office is a... I guess like a thriller, mystery thriller based on popular series of books. It's the second in this series. Oh, oh, it's... It has a very famously strange CGI opening sequence. A long came a spider.

[01:58:49] Yes, long came a spider with Morgan Freeman and Monica Potter. But at this point it's like that's in its third weekend, right? Second. Second, Spy Kids is in its third weekend. Everyone was like, Josie... Josie should dethrone these. Open and run. Why, these two films? Yeah. Nope.

[01:59:04] Remember the opening sequence of that? Like a weird car crash. Very weird CGI in that scene. The only thing I know is that you don't cross Alex Cross. Is that the tagline? Yes, it's the tagline of a later Alex Cross movie starring Tyler Perry.

[01:59:16] But this is back when it was Morgan Freeman baby. He had a franchise. Everyone's favorite film character, Alex Cross. He's cool. Don't cross him. Don't cross him. Number three at the box office. I'm assuming you saw Spy Kids, maybe not in theaters, but you saw it.

[01:59:28] Oh, I remember. Probably didn't see along came a spider. Shataki mushrooms. New film. Point. New film. Point point. Yeah. It would go on to be Oscar nominated, which is surprising for an April release. Romantic comedy rated R, you know, based on a book. Bridge Jones.

[01:59:51] I totally forgot that came on April. I thought that came out, you know, and then the next weekend it becomes number one. It's a rare movie that rises. You're right. The next weekend it drops 5% and everything else dropped more and the only thing that

[02:00:05] opened was Freddie got fingered in crocodile and dust Dundee in Los Angeles. Like Joe's in the postcards was supposed to have like a six week run. Right. At number one. I know. It had like the right like teen movies were big cartoon adaptations were big.

[02:00:20] Like everyone's like this is going to fucking rule the charts. Did you see Bridget Jones? No, not in theaters, but later in life. Fair enough. I saw him in theaters. I saw it with my mom. I went to the premiere in London. Shut the fuck up. In London.

[02:00:35] Literally shut the fuck up. That was very surprising when she got nominated. Right? She's stuck in there, but as strange as this sounds, there was the note that the prevailing feeling at the time was that she'd been snubbed for nurse Betty the year before.

[02:00:49] So it was kind of like and also she'd been snubbed for Jane Rebbiart. She was legit snubbed for Jane Rebbiart. So it's sort of like, ah, we should probably, you know, squeeze her in there. Thora Bone. And she is good in that one. Yeah, she's good.

[02:00:59] Yeah, she's good. I mean they're fun movies. Hugh Grant to me is like the best part of the Bridget Jones movies. He's the best part of any movie. Is it Paddington? He's the best part of Paddington too. He plays Phoenix Buchanan in the Bridget Jones trilogy. Pretty much.

[02:01:12] Number four is another new movie. It's a comedy. It seems like a Ben movie. Oh yeah. Yeah. I love when any description of a film is a Ben movie. Did you see this one in theaters? Definitely. Is this a Ben star? You weigh in on that Ben.

[02:01:29] I mean he doesn't have a lot. You know what? I take it back. He's had some starring roles. He's an SNL alum. I'm not all in, but I like... Not all in. Okay. I'm not all in.

[02:01:40] So you hear blank as in a movie, you're not like, I'm there. No. But you hear blank as in blank and you're like, yeah, I'm there. Okay, wait. So it's April of two... Oh, I know what it is. What is it?

[02:01:50] This is the most Ben movie of all time. Yeah. This is Joe Dirt. Yeah. Which out grossed Josie in the post-it. And it's first weekend. And it all of its weekends. And it's final total. David Spade is Joe Dirt. I have never seen Joe Dirt.

[02:02:06] Joe Dirt by Benny. Joe... Ben just made a face at me. I mean if I... I don't remember much. This was like a film that was on Comedy Central. Yeah. A lot of dogs, balls like freeze to... Some poor steps. Go on.

[02:02:21] There's something about a meteorite made out of shit. Yeah. It's also... It's a tragic comic. It's like a pilgrim's progress type movie. He goes on a journey. Do you know what the superstructure of that movie is? Yes. No, I have no idea.

[02:02:37] Dennis Miller is a fucking shock jock. Why not? Yeah, why not? Dennis Miller is a shock jock. And there's this janitor who they all fucking make fun of. And he's the janitor. And they decide to throw him on Mike Stern's style to make fun of the weirdo.

[02:02:51] And they're like, so what's your fucking story? Where does this haircut come from? He tells the story that ends up being really tragic about his life. Oh, weird. He tells them this weird Picker S journey of how he got to the point where he was working

[02:03:02] in a janitor, like the rise and fall of Joe Dirt. And then it ends with like America glued to this radio program that ends on this note of like, yeah, and I lost my love. I lost my family. I lost everything.

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[02:05:16] Thanks for spelling it out. Number five at the box office is a film. I saw all of these in theaters except for Joe Durk. I saw all these except for along came a spider and I didn't see Joe

[02:05:25] Durk because I don't eat if it came out in Britain. It came and went the you know that the whole SNL. I'm saying it played in U S theaters for a year for at least six weeks.

[02:05:37] So when you got back home to New York, you would have been able to see it. I love that the new bid is I went on vacation to Britain. Yeah. All right. So the fifth film I saw this in theaters.

[02:05:48] It's a kind of an epic drama, but like a period piece. It's like sort of a cool movie. It's kind of crazy. This movie exists 2001 2001. How do you describe this movie? Ben it's historic. It's like a historical. Yeah, but like you know recent. It's like 70s or whatever.

[02:06:12] You know yeah. Yeah. This is another Ben. It's an anti hero movie. Is it blow? Yes. How the fuck do you do this? I mean we're talking a special off. I mean this run of years. Yeah, me too.

[02:06:26] What year did you like get started in the box office game? I'll tell you I started tracking the box office when Toy Story came out because Toy Story is my favorite movie. So 95 but when we get to like 99 to 2007 I'm so fucking in it. Right.

[02:06:40] And I have the ritual around like every Monday morning cracking open paper. Right. And the other thing you have to remember is my dad would literally cover his hand over the 10 and have me guess in escalating order where films were. Right. So like the weekend this comes out.

[02:06:55] He was like I'm training for you a podcast someday. I mean essentially he was like wax on wax on. And then you're like what's a podcast? Right, but like this weekend I was like Josie's number one. We know Josie's number one and you're not getting reports about Friday.

[02:07:07] Like we have now. No, I know. It's like Monday morning you have no idea what it's going to be. And he like goes through the top 10. It's like number 10. Okay, whatever eight someone like you and then when Josie in the pussy cat to seven

[02:07:18] I like lose my mind. Yeah, it did manage to beat out the second weekend of Pokemon three. What's the subtitle of Pokemon three? The movie. I mean I think in Japan in Japan they have more elaborate subtitles that

[02:07:31] explain the plot of the movie but in America they would just reduce that to Pokemon the movie 2000. Like try and keep it. Are you saying America makes films dumber for their audiences? Sure. Because we don't understand this one was released here as Pokemon 2000 the movie on the movie 2000.

[02:07:49] Okay, and then the first one was called Pokemon the first movie. Yes, which felt like a threat because they knew they had already made five more of them. Whereas in Japan it's called Pokemon you two strikes back right

[02:08:04] which is which to be fair would be a weird thing to release the first movie as he's a huge strikes back. What do we do? And here is Pokemon cold in the first movie but all of the advertising

[02:08:13] used me versus me to yes also Pokemon the first movie is kind of two movies the first 20 minutes or an entirely different movie short film about Pikachu like having some fun on the beach character everyone thought was named Pika blue that was the rumor because he

[02:08:27] looked like a blue Pikachu Pikachu's vacation Pokemon to Pokemon the movie 2000 in Japan is called Pokemon Revelation Lucia which is pretty fucking cool. The soundtrack for the Pokemon movies fucking that had been said Pokemon go fuck where is Pokemon three in America Pokemon three

[02:08:45] colon the movie seems a little hat and a hat there but okay is called Pokemon says the movie Lord of the Unknown Tower which hello I want to meet that Pokemon forever Pokemon forever or Pokemon stories the movie sell up sell it be a timeless encounter

[02:09:02] guys so much better than Pokemon five I don't think that one even came out of America they that was when it was now just like I think that's when mere Mac starts releasing them and like limited

[02:09:12] yeah like in sort of like a fathom event style so one day only right you get like a free card I saw Pokemon one and two in theaters I didn't see three I was told time went up to my

[02:09:23] friends who were playing with their dumb cards oh yeah you sound like one of the people who are mean to me when I was a team I took my arm and ice through them all off the table you

[02:09:32] sound like one of those kids that when I was a kid I was like he has a real attitude problem hell yeah were you still chubby at this stage yep we're you full of rage yeah then just walking

[02:09:44] by with this to be like okay was it a to be am I getting that wrong and yes it was a to be nailed into the fucking wall it was a to be like gave me the to be a savage dunk and

[02:09:56] and I remember my music teacher was like you should play the tuba because you can you can you can hold on to it and I remember in my mind being like cuz you're fat she was saying she was saying you could wear it like a belt that's what

[02:10:10] she was saying they wouldn't have to hold it fits you it's like an inner tube yep yep and then our to be so oh I got another merchandise by light they're gonna hate it there they honestly I don't care weirdly Zen right now okay there

[02:10:26] was there was a company that made a line of dolls they did them for two movies and then gave up the first was Charlie's Angels sure the second was Josie and the pussycats oh how did I own those where they tried to apply two

[02:10:41] weird types of technology that were kind of primitive it's coming called jacks who mostly then did WWF shit do this fast yeah I'm already losing patience to one they were like you said you are weirdly one they're like sculptors ha who

[02:11:02] needs them we're gonna scan them digitally yep which now is common practice but the time made them look really creepy right should I find these jacks Charlie's Angels or Jacks Josie and the pussycats would be more relevant the second thing was they made them where they had like

[02:11:19] internal skeletons and then covered them in rubber you so that you couldn't see like the joints but they could move you spelled jacks J A K K S so a they bent west world yeah they were like west world right no I don't like it at all

[02:11:39] it's gonna be a very upsetting like right their bodies were mushy and then also the rubber would deteriorate over time so they look like terminators I don't know they're very strange yeah anyway I'm gonna buy a set of money but creepy alright yeah that's enough

[02:11:58] they're creepy go look up the creepy Josie and the pussycats stall and hey maybe we'll post a picture on the Instagram yeah another countless account run by Ames that you should all follow that's right I do the tweets I do

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[02:12:56] choose your favorite what's your favorite miniseries that's tough and I will okay well I one of my favorite episodes I do love war horse I've never seen it that horse Lincoln Lincoln was fun that's I think I think because I cried when Ben said something about like these

[02:13:18] like major men in history like wiped their butts with their hands and I mean they didn't have a like signed the Declaration of Independence or whatever it is stinky butts no but what yeah in a suit point I did not

[02:13:31] see when Lincoln came out wait are you saying Spielberg should at least paper mini series such a slog because he's no fun some good episodes I just will say my name Tintin who would disagree with you that's fair that's fair

[02:13:44] nose for a good story and an ear for adventure I think fun episodes but I think if we're talking like our like where is this director going and things like that it was just like wow he was very successful and he

[02:13:57] continued being very successful we all know where he was going to many and we all know where I'm just like going into the Oasis can't wait to record that up boy that episode's gonna be full of Easter eggs you think

[02:14:08] there's a lot of references should we also know the next mini series or do we do that? Can I do it yeah go ahead I just remember where we are in the time James O Brooks is all wrapped up

[02:14:22] crazy person put a bow on that and now Andrew do you like to announce the following mini series you know what it is next mini series I hope I don't have to check my phone is one Brad bird right we're taking flight

[02:14:36] with the bird taken to the sky we've recorded bit griff would have said so all of those episodes already yeah they're fucking hilarious. Which is of course the peg for Brad yeah we've wanted to do him from the beginning peg yeah okay I guess that's

[02:14:53] an interim it's a journalism term maybe you guys know that one I was a journalism major I get it my name ever asks me all the time what's the peg wait a second but how would you know journalism terms if you grew up in

[02:15:05] the United States of America if it's a good question they don't teach you shit here anywhere else yeah we're doing brady you know mini series we like to call the podcastable that's all going right yeah that was the best

[02:15:18] we got yes sure get ready for tomorrow and takes not tomorrow in the coming weeks that's a great episode you should also know that the iron giant episode we repeatedly in during while recording it called it the worst

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[02:15:47] wanted to the iron giant which is oh yeah that's a great I have no idea what it is guns that we haven't seen ready player one yet either things up did they bring Vin back for any player one is a shirt off it's a question

[02:15:59] well that's the thing I like about the iron giant is that dude never fucking wears a shirt because it's a goddamn Vin Diesel movie yep laser showman thank you so much for listening oh wait can I give a quick shout out

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