Jupiter Ascending

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David

[00:00:09] Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check

[00:00:20] Your Majesty, I have more in common with a podcast than I have with you

[00:00:24] I love podcasts. I've always loved podcasts

[00:00:25] Ohhhh

[00:00:32] Hello everybody

[00:00:34] Welcome

[00:00:35] To this podcast I hope you love podcasts. I hope you've always loved podcasts

[00:00:39] My name's Griffin Newman

[00:00:41] David Sim

[00:00:42] This is a podcast it's called Blank Check with Griffin and David

[00:00:46] Now comes a colon

[00:00:50] Colon ascending the podcasting casters

[00:00:53] My colon's ascending into my body deeper and deeper

[00:00:57] Cause this is a mini series we're doing, we're starting to hit the end of this mini series

[00:01:01] It's called the Pachowsky casters

[00:01:03] Making a sad face

[00:01:05] I mean David was trying to make a sad face but it looked just like Donald Duckbeak

[00:01:09] He was making a duck face

[00:01:11] He stuck his lips out. It was trying to get palped but it just looked like he was trying to kiss somebody

[00:01:15] Yes

[00:01:16] And this is a movie about kissing in a way it has a kiss

[00:01:19] I don't know

[00:01:20] I think it has like a kiss or two

[00:01:21] Yeah I'm really

[00:01:23] Exhausted

[00:01:24] A lot of times when we do this podcast I say that I'm tired cause I didn't sleep all the night before

[00:01:28] I'm tired cause we uh

[00:01:31] I wrap the TV show

[00:01:33] What's this now?

[00:01:34] The Tic

[00:01:36] Explain

[00:01:37] Le Tic

[00:01:38] That's the French title

[00:01:40] Le Dic

[00:01:42] We stocked up those episodes in advance so you haven't missed a week but this is our first time recording in three weeks

[00:01:47] Dude it's been so long since I've seen Griffin Newman

[00:01:49] It's actually crazy I've missed him a lot

[00:01:51] Absence makes the heart grow

[00:01:52] It's actually been really sad

[00:01:53] Funder

[00:01:55] But yeah in the time in between our Cloud Atlas episode and our Jupiter sending episode today

[00:02:00] You made the Tic

[00:02:01] I made the Tic

[00:02:02] I made a pilot

[00:02:03] The pilot will go online in August

[00:02:05] Anyone can watch it

[00:02:07] Prime membership or no

[00:02:09] Oh the pilots are for everybody?

[00:02:10] I believe it's for everyone

[00:02:11] Yeah I think you're right

[00:02:13] And then they'll see if people like it and if so we get to make more of it

[00:02:16] So uh you know keep your eyes open on the Amazon homepage

[00:02:19] They got some good deals coming up on toilet paper

[00:02:21] But also in August they'll be a pilot

[00:02:24] Yeah I recently bought some Pantry Moth traps from Amazon Prime

[00:02:28] And uh yeah they appear to be working

[00:02:29] Preparing for my role as Arthur the man in the Moth suit

[00:02:32] Very good point

[00:02:34] That is that's what it was all about

[00:02:36] Not my Pantry Moth infestation

[00:02:39] Uh tie in

[00:02:41] Promotional tie in

[00:02:43] Yeah finish the show

[00:02:44] Good

[00:02:45] How'd it go?

[00:02:46] I think it's really good

[00:02:47] I'm holding a microphone up to you

[00:02:48] Yeah

[00:02:49] Even though you're talking into my

[00:02:50] I think it's gonna be good

[00:02:52] Great

[00:02:53] Uh we worked real hard

[00:02:55] Um I you know I uh I tried to constantly

[00:02:58] Step out of my head

[00:03:00] And just sort of view it as like

[00:03:03] Uh you're a Tic fan

[00:03:04] What would you want to see from this show right now

[00:03:06] And both make my decisions based on that

[00:03:09] Not based on like what I think the people want to see

[00:03:10] But based on what I would want to see as a fan of this property

[00:03:12] Cause that's all I can fucking do

[00:03:14] Is make the show that I would want to see

[00:03:16] I understand

[00:03:17] But I would also sort of try to look at the show surrounding me

[00:03:20] And be like yeah I think this is the show

[00:03:22] That I would want to see as a fan

[00:03:24] That I do want to see as a fan

[00:03:26] Uh you know I have some problems with the guy that casts as Arthur

[00:03:28] It's gonna be hard for me to watch it

[00:03:31] Uh cause I'm not a big fan of Grisham Human product

[00:03:35] Uh sounds like I'm making a joke

[00:03:37] I'm not

[00:03:38] No I get it you don't want to watch yourself on screen

[00:03:39] It freaks you out

[00:03:40] Terrible terrible

[00:03:41] Uh I'm my least favorite actor

[00:03:43] But uh I think the show's really good

[00:03:46] Peter Sarapanen what's his name

[00:03:47] Killed it

[00:03:48] People are gonna fucking come when they hear

[00:03:50] His voice and see him in the suit and everything

[00:03:53] It's like uh it's really dead on

[00:03:55] I've seen pictures of you in your super suit

[00:03:57] I showed you pictures

[00:03:58] They are top secret

[00:03:59] Top secret

[00:04:00] I'll say this

[00:04:01] There was a moment when I was in the suit

[00:04:03] And I was like looking in the mirror

[00:04:05] On set like not even in my

[00:04:06] But like with the lights on me and everything on set

[00:04:08] But in the scene I'm looking at myself in the mirror

[00:04:11] And I had the helmet with sort of the antenna

[00:04:13] And the goggles and everything in my hand

[00:04:16] I was holding it under my arm

[00:04:17] And I was like I kinda look like speed racer right now

[00:04:19] Naaah

[00:04:20] It had a sort of speed racer vibe

[00:04:22] The jumpsuit

[00:04:23] I rewatched speed racer while you were

[00:04:25] Again?

[00:04:26] I did I bought it on Blu-ray and rewatched it

[00:04:28] I did too I haven't watched it yet

[00:04:29] Uh you buy from Amazon

[00:04:30] Yeah I did

[00:04:31] Good

[00:04:32] Fucking I don't want to promote this

[00:04:33] Come

[00:04:34] Come

[00:04:35] Company

[00:04:36] Uh but yeah

[00:04:37] Uh tickets finished

[00:04:38] Do you think you could talk Amazon into just hosting this podcast

[00:04:40] And turning it into an Amazon empire

[00:04:42] Yeah

[00:04:43] Just like

[00:04:44] Make it part of prime

[00:04:45] Yeah

[00:04:46] Seriously honestly you joke

[00:04:47] I'm getting my fucking hooks in with them

[00:04:49] Because they got so much money to spend

[00:04:51] I'm gonna start pitching them

[00:04:52] Anything

[00:04:53] I'm gonna start pitching Kindle singles

[00:04:55] What about that merch

[00:04:56] We've been trying to get some

[00:04:57] Yeah

[00:04:58] Just have a merch section

[00:04:59] Exclusive provider

[00:05:00] You know what

[00:05:01] This is all well and good

[00:05:03] This is all fun and game

[00:05:04] Yeah

[00:05:05] And we do have talk about the film Jupiter is sending

[00:05:07] Yeah I just thought you know first episode back

[00:05:09] I wanted to be on my list

[00:05:10] I wanted to be on my list that I'm done with the tick

[00:05:11] We got it

[00:05:12] Talking about the tick

[00:05:13] Should I put a tick next to it

[00:05:14] Yeah please do

[00:05:15] Uh very proud of it

[00:05:17] Uh going up in August

[00:05:18] I think you'll probably see some stuff coming out

[00:05:20] Uh sooner rather than later

[00:05:22] Oh yeah

[00:05:23] I'm in the process

[00:05:24] A little bit of footage

[00:05:25] I don't know I

[00:05:26] You want to hear the worst

[00:05:27] Uh task in the world

[00:05:29] My current thing I need to get done by the end of this week

[00:05:31] Is they sent me a file of like 500 photos

[00:05:34] And I have to go through all of them and approve

[00:05:36] Yeah or reject them

[00:05:37] Oh my god

[00:05:38] Um but they're like from a photo shoot

[00:05:40] Of like me and my wardrobe

[00:05:41] So it was like every five seconds they were like

[00:05:43] Try this

[00:05:44] What if it was one hand

[00:05:45] What if you're looking out to the left

[00:05:46] To the right

[00:05:47] You actually have to serve as an editor

[00:05:49] Like these are not screened

[00:05:50] Yes

[00:05:51] No not at all

[00:05:52] And some of the photos are clearly me being like

[00:05:53] Can you say that one more time

[00:05:54] And I'm like my eyes are closed

[00:05:56] And I'm like leaning forward to try to hear what they're saying

[00:05:58] Uh we're terrible

[00:06:00] I hate it

[00:06:01] I do 10 at a time then I have a panic attack

[00:06:03] What's Peter Sarafano it's really like

[00:06:05] Great lovely British

[00:06:07] What about Jack Earl Haley did you deal with him much

[00:06:09] Uh gentlemen Haley you're talking about

[00:06:11] Sure

[00:06:12] Gentlemen Jack

[00:06:13] Uh he's uh I don't

[00:06:15] Saucy Jack

[00:06:16] This isn't a spoiler I don't have any scenes with him

[00:06:18] Yeah

[00:06:19] Uh he

[00:06:20] He mentioned that to me

[00:06:21] He interfaces with uh the younger version of myself

[00:06:24] Ah the baby version

[00:06:25] Yeah

[00:06:26] He's in like a flashback

[00:06:27] An extended flashback

[00:06:29] And then the sort of setup is as the season goes on

[00:06:32] I would try to build towards the reunion

[00:06:35] The second meeting of him

[00:06:36] Where I am out for vengeance

[00:06:38] Uh great great actor

[00:06:40] Cool

[00:06:41] Uh super super terrifying

[00:06:43] Uh very nice

[00:06:44] I mean he's just like oh hey how's it go

[00:06:46] And then they go like an action he goes like

[00:06:48] I will destroy you

[00:06:50] Cool

[00:06:51] And he like looks like a mummy

[00:06:52] They got this makeup on him

[00:06:53] I saw the set photos

[00:06:55] Yeah if you want to see photos of something

[00:06:56] They uh they were filming outdoors in McCarran Park

[00:06:59] And the paparazzi came out

[00:07:02] And it was all over uh daily news and stuff

[00:07:04] You can find the photos online

[00:07:05] Did you ask director Wally Fister

[00:07:09] Who directed the pilot of the tick

[00:07:10] But also the film transcendent

[00:07:12] Yes

[00:07:13] If he had any stories about Johnny Depp's appearance

[00:07:17] In M Night Shyamalan

[00:07:18] The buried secret of M Night Shyamalan

[00:07:20] I did not

[00:07:23] Damnit Griffin you had one thing to do

[00:07:25] And for that I say to our listeners

[00:07:27] I am sorry

[00:07:29] I have failed you

[00:07:30] You ever say hey Wally was Johnny Depp like

[00:07:32] He's like oh you know Johnny Depp's a nice guy

[00:07:34] I'm like so here's my question Wally

[00:07:36] Yeah

[00:07:37] Why was he in the buried secret of M Night Shyamalan

[00:07:39] Great question

[00:07:40] Uh Wally did show me a picture of him playing guitar

[00:07:43] With Johnny Depp and Paul McCartney

[00:07:46] Pretty cool

[00:07:48] Yeah

[00:07:49] And then I was like

[00:07:50] You think that picture is starred in his photo album

[00:07:51] So we can access it easily

[00:07:52] Oh it definitely was

[00:07:53] Cause it was from a couple years ago

[00:07:54] And he pulled it up real fast

[00:07:55] I shown the picture and I said

[00:07:58] Wally it's very cool can we

[00:08:00] Shoot the scene now

[00:08:02] I'm tired

[00:08:03] Did Paul McCartney write a song

[00:08:06] An original song for transcendence that was

[00:08:08] Rejected by Wally Fister

[00:08:09] Yeah of course

[00:08:10] For inclusion in the film

[00:08:11] Of course

[00:08:12] Called We Are All Computers

[00:08:13] Yeah that was the title

[00:08:14] Yeah

[00:08:15] I'm married to a computer zombie

[00:08:16] Yeah

[00:08:17] What a weird movie

[00:08:18] Yeah

[00:08:20] Get your phone away from that

[00:08:21] I know the fucking thing

[00:08:23] Okay talked about the tick

[00:08:25] War out everyone's patience for that

[00:08:27] Tick tick

[00:08:28] Checked off

[00:08:29] Oh here's a little bit of housekeeping that connects to that

[00:08:31] From the corrections department

[00:08:33] Got an email or a tweet rather

[00:08:35] Correcting our

[00:08:36] An email tweet

[00:08:37] Pronunciation of the name of the third director

[00:08:41] Of Claude Atlas

[00:08:42] Which we said was Tom Tviker

[00:08:44] Tviker Tviker

[00:08:45] Guess what it is

[00:08:46] What

[00:08:47] Tom Tickver

[00:08:48] Tickver

[00:08:49] Yeah well you know

[00:08:50] Tick tick tick

[00:08:51] Oh I see what you're saying

[00:08:52] That was the correction

[00:08:53] He was like

[00:08:54] I think it was Pat Reynolds maybe

[00:08:55] A tweet in was like

[00:08:56] You of all people should know that

[00:08:58] Cool

[00:08:59] Great done talking about that

[00:09:01] Any other housekeeping

[00:09:03] Housekeeping we got a book report

[00:09:05] We're gonna read that at the end of the episode

[00:09:06] We'll do a Berg report

[00:09:08] We'll do a Berg report

[00:09:09] Here's one more thing I want to do

[00:09:10] At the top of the show

[00:09:11] Before we get into the movie

[00:09:12] That's kind of what I was asking

[00:09:14] Yes

[00:09:15] Jesus Christ

[00:09:16] We have this film Jupiter sending

[00:09:19] The last theatrical

[00:09:20] The most recently released theatrical

[00:09:21] Motion picture from the Wachowskis

[00:09:23] We have Sense 8

[00:09:25] David's making his pouty face again

[00:09:27] This time it actually looked pouty

[00:09:28] He nailed it this time

[00:09:30] Sense 8 they're a Netflix series

[00:09:32] Yeah and then we're gonna do a bonus episode

[00:09:34] On the animatrix

[00:09:35] And sort of the matrix appendix

[00:09:37] Sort of stuff

[00:09:38] Yeah

[00:09:39] Then we're done

[00:09:40] Book closed

[00:09:41] Wachowskis

[00:09:42] Put them on the shelf for now

[00:09:44] Sad face

[00:09:45] I feel like with the directors

[00:09:46] We've covered when

[00:09:47] They have a new film come out

[00:09:48] We'll do a one off

[00:09:49] Like we have to

[00:09:50] I'm waiting

[00:09:51] We're just waiting

[00:09:52] We're gonna make another movie in a while

[00:09:53] I hope so

[00:09:54] But Sean Lund's in production

[00:09:55] I think

[00:09:56] What's that film called?

[00:09:57] Switch

[00:09:58] Split

[00:09:59] Yeah when Split comes out

[00:10:00] We'll do a one off

[00:10:01] A Palak Lunds

[00:10:02] Which is a great character

[00:10:04] In the film The Matrix

[00:10:05] God switch though

[00:10:06] Not like this

[00:10:07] No not like this

[00:10:08] Switch though

[00:10:11] But what does that

[00:10:12] A-Pock

[00:10:13] Tank

[00:10:14] Dozer

[00:10:15] Cypher

[00:10:18] I miss them

[00:10:19] I miss them all

[00:10:20] They're good friends

[00:10:21] That's why we're doing the animatrix episode

[00:10:22] Because I want to excuse to go back into that world

[00:10:24] Switch prequel

[00:10:25] Yeah

[00:10:26] Matrix origin switch

[00:10:29] Switch though

[00:10:30] Okay so this main series is almost done

[00:10:32] Put it on the shelf

[00:10:33] Time for a new main series

[00:10:34] And just to clarify

[00:10:35] Because we did a bad job setting up the show

[00:10:37] This shows based on a mini series

[00:10:38] Where you go through director's what

[00:10:40] I hope you're not listening first

[00:10:41] To the Jupiter ascending episode

[00:10:43] And then try to look at

[00:10:45] Post blank check

[00:10:46] What movies they make after

[00:10:47] They've had massive success early on

[00:10:49] We need

[00:10:50] We need

[00:10:51] Time for new miniseries

[00:10:52] We need a new subject

[00:10:53] And like you know honestly

[00:10:54] When we were doing our George Lucas stuff

[00:10:56] We already had

[00:10:58] Shyamalan and Wachowskis in the chamber

[00:11:00] We had that planned for a long time

[00:11:02] Ever since then we basically just

[00:11:04] Badded a lot of names around

[00:11:06] And we've never been able to settle on one

[00:11:08] So we have four finalists

[00:11:10] We have four finalists? Okay

[00:11:12] Yeah

[00:11:13] We have four finalists

[00:11:14] I mean we have a couple more

[00:11:15] We're gonna save them for the next

[00:11:16] We have four finalists

[00:11:17] There's others in the hopper

[00:11:18] Right

[00:11:19] They're still in the barrel

[00:11:21] You know we're like a whiskey distillery

[00:11:23] Yes

[00:11:24] And they're still like aging

[00:11:25] They're aging and here's another thing

[00:11:26] With those ones not to give any

[00:11:28] Spoilers but they have

[00:11:30] Qualifiers

[00:11:31] Yeah it's more like

[00:11:33] We're trying to squeeze them into this weird premise

[00:11:35] We have of like directors

[00:11:36] Who probably would write blank check

[00:11:38] And it's like directors in a certain period

[00:11:40] We wouldn't cover the entire

[00:11:41] Filmography

[00:11:42] Oh I see what you're saying

[00:11:43] Two of them I think fall into that

[00:11:44] Who are not gonna be part of this poll

[00:11:46] Well alright well give me the four names

[00:11:48] For this poll are

[00:11:49] Ahem

[00:11:50] Yeah

[00:11:52] Cameron Crow

[00:11:53] Cameron Crow

[00:11:54] Now I think he would be fun

[00:11:57] We can sort of advocate

[00:11:58] Yes

[00:11:59] You know for any of these guys

[00:12:00] But he'd be fun cause he's a little different

[00:12:02] Not a genre director

[00:12:03] Genre wise exactly

[00:12:04] Yeah

[00:12:05] More of a sort of comedy

[00:12:07] Sort of like contemporary

[00:12:09] Comedy romance type guy

[00:12:11] Yeah

[00:12:12] We love ending these main series

[00:12:14] On sort of a sense of redemption

[00:12:15] And hope of what comes next

[00:12:17] He has his series roadies premiering over the summer

[00:12:19] So we would sort of dovetail in with that nicely

[00:12:22] Yeah I mean sure

[00:12:24] This idea of maybe

[00:12:25] Maybe who knows

[00:12:26] But I like the idea of a possibility

[00:12:28] I think Cameron Crow is also like his blank check movie

[00:12:31] I don't know if you want to say it

[00:12:32] Say anything or Jerry McGuire

[00:12:34] I don't know which one it actually is

[00:12:36] I had a couple

[00:12:37] But he became a guy who could do

[00:12:39] Anything he wanted and he bought a zoo

[00:12:41] He bought a zoo

[00:12:42] And then he cast Emma Stone as an Asian woman

[00:12:44] He's done a lot of things

[00:12:46] I think it'd be a great one to talk about

[00:12:48] A lot of stuff in there

[00:12:49] Good movies and bad movies

[00:12:50] Yeah and it's a perfect number of films too

[00:12:52] Yeah it's a nice size

[00:12:54] Cameron Crow

[00:12:56] See if you can make sense of the chain

[00:12:58] I'm doing here on these films

[00:13:00] Okay

[00:13:01] Cameron Crow

[00:13:02] Next name

[00:13:03] James Cameron

[00:13:04] Same

[00:13:05] There's a similar name in there

[00:13:06] Yes they share a common name

[00:13:08] Jimmy Cameron

[00:13:09] So I feel like James Cameron is an obvious blank check guy

[00:13:11] Because he almost never makes movies

[00:13:14] Whenever he does they are multi-billion

[00:13:16] Dollar spectaculars

[00:13:17] Yeah

[00:13:18] He's just a blank check guy who's every

[00:13:20] He's never bounced a check

[00:13:21] He's never bounced a check

[00:13:22] That's the difference with him

[00:13:23] Yeah

[00:13:24] He keeps going crazier and it keeps

[00:13:26] Working out for him

[00:13:27] Yes

[00:13:28] And by the way I was discussing this

[00:13:30] With print of the show Katie Rich

[00:13:31] If we do him

[00:13:32] We have to do a ghost from the Abyss episode

[00:13:35] Oh no question

[00:13:36] No question

[00:13:37] Ghosts are the best and we'll say the one called

[00:13:38] Secrets of the Deep

[00:13:39] I don't know if we have to do that one

[00:13:40] They're both, I looked it up

[00:13:41] They're both like 45 minutes long

[00:13:43] So we do them as one episode

[00:13:44] Well we have to rent out an empty IMEX theater

[00:13:46] To watch them in

[00:13:47] Correct

[00:13:48] I agree with you

[00:13:49] But Jimmy Cameron also a perfect number of films

[00:13:51] So we're going to need several thousand dollars

[00:13:53] From our fans to rent the IMEX theater

[00:13:55] Just f-w-w-w

[00:13:56] We'll start a patron

[00:13:57] So a lot of people wanted us to do James Cameron

[00:13:58] Because they want us to

[00:13:59] They want to be on the James Cameron episode

[00:14:01] Yeah

[00:14:02] But when we talk to our friends about this

[00:14:04] Everyone wants to be on the Titanic episode

[00:14:06] Yeah, Titanic's very hot

[00:14:08] But I think he'd be obvious

[00:14:10] He'd be so much fun

[00:14:11] We're going to have to watch for Anna to the spawning

[00:14:13] Yeah, now there's no question we do them at some point

[00:14:15] The question is now

[00:14:16] We've always sort of had some sense of maybe wait a little bit

[00:14:18] But if the listeners want it now

[00:14:19] We'll do it now

[00:14:20] Guys, don't worry

[00:14:21] Like if we don't do it now

[00:14:22] We'll do it later

[00:14:23] All four of these people were going to do it at some point

[00:14:25] We're asking you to pick which one we do next

[00:14:27] Number three is keeping the chain going

[00:14:29] Catherine Bigelow

[00:14:30] Okay

[00:14:31] Okay

[00:14:32] His ex-wife

[00:14:33] Ex-wife of James Cameron

[00:14:34] Yes, she's the toughest because she has not gotten

[00:14:36] A blank check from Hollywood

[00:14:37] I

[00:14:38] In a long time

[00:14:39] She has

[00:14:40] Yeah, Strange Days in K-19

[00:14:42] No, I think Zero Dark Thirty is a blank check movie

[00:14:44] Yeah, I guess so

[00:14:46] How much did it cost?

[00:14:47] It doesn't matter

[00:14:48] It cost a lot made a lot

[00:14:49] Yeah

[00:14:50] Fast and career

[00:14:51] Fast and career

[00:14:52] But someone who's had to scrape and fight

[00:14:54] For her films

[00:14:55] At times

[00:14:56] And I think that's sort of what that series would be about

[00:14:59] K-19 is a blank check movie

[00:15:00] It's a Russian submarine movie

[00:15:01] It costs like $120 million

[00:15:03] But I think that was her for hire

[00:15:04] You know what I'm saying

[00:15:05] That wasn't her passion project

[00:15:06] That's what I'm saying

[00:15:07] They gave her a big check

[00:15:08] You have to watch K-19, The Widowmaker

[00:15:10] I mean this is the other thing

[00:15:11] I'm fascinated by it

[00:15:12] I've only seen like half of her movies

[00:15:13] So it'd be interesting to explore half of them

[00:15:15] I haven't seen

[00:15:16] What's the one with Jamie Lee Curtis?

[00:15:17] Blue Steel I think it's called

[00:15:18] Yeah

[00:15:19] Something like that

[00:15:20] Right, I haven't seen that

[00:15:21] I haven't seen K-19

[00:15:22] I haven't seen The Way to Water

[00:15:23] I embarrassingly have never seen

[00:15:25] Near Dark

[00:15:26] Oh, Near Dark's amazing

[00:15:27] Anyway, she'd be fun

[00:15:28] She'd be fun

[00:15:29] She'd be different

[00:15:30] Yes, and we look at sort of the difference

[00:15:32] Of like, you know

[00:15:34] A woman

[00:15:35] You know, fighting

[00:15:36] You know, for these sort of chances

[00:15:37] Wait, she's a woman?

[00:15:38] She's a lady

[00:15:39] Oh, she's off the list

[00:15:40] She won an Oscar

[00:15:41] No, but you know

[00:15:42] The Hollywood isn't so quick to give out

[00:15:43] All these guys have Oscars by the way

[00:15:45] Cameron Crowe, James Cameron, Katherine Bigelow

[00:15:47] They've all Oscar winners

[00:15:49] Interesting

[00:15:50] They're Oscar winners

[00:15:51] We've never covered an Oscar winner

[00:15:52] George Lucas doesn't have an Oscar

[00:15:53] Unless you count that dirty

[00:15:54] Thalberg award

[00:15:56] M. Night hasn't got an Oscar

[00:15:58] The Wachowskis have no Oscars

[00:16:00] Nope

[00:16:01] Okay, so if you want an Oscar winner

[00:16:03] Pick one of those three

[00:16:04] Because the next one has not

[00:16:05] Been nominated in a tragic

[00:16:07] In a tragic shame

[00:16:08] And that's if you want that

[00:16:09] If you want someone who still

[00:16:11] Griffin threw this out at me

[00:16:12] And I was like, wait a second

[00:16:14] Yeah

[00:16:15] Because it's a weird idea

[00:16:17] I came up with it last weekend

[00:16:19] Because the other ones we've had

[00:16:20] Stewing in the hopper for a while, right?

[00:16:22] No, shoot it, shoot it

[00:16:23] Shane Black

[00:16:25] Shane Black

[00:16:26] But it would be as director and writer

[00:16:28] Yeah, because he's only directed

[00:16:30] Three movie

[00:16:31] And he's only written

[00:16:32] Five or

[00:16:33] Six

[00:16:34] Depending on how you keep count

[00:16:35] Beyond that

[00:16:36] Yeah, famous action screenwriter

[00:16:38] Of the 80s and 90s

[00:16:40] Letha Weapon, Last Boy Scout

[00:16:42] Long Kiss Good Night

[00:16:43] Last Action Hero

[00:16:44] Which, talk about a blank check movie

[00:16:46] The highest paid screenwriter

[00:16:47] In Hollywood for a long time

[00:16:48] Then fucking

[00:16:49] Checks out, disappears

[00:16:51] Blank checks out

[00:16:53] He blank checks out

[00:16:54] He does the opposite of what

[00:16:56] Dunstan did

[00:16:57] He takes a cue from

[00:16:58] Bazzaro Dunstan

[00:16:59] No, no, I refuse

[00:17:01] I refuse

[00:17:02] Yes

[00:17:03] I refuse

[00:17:04] One million comedy points

[00:17:08] Oh, everyone is turned off

[00:17:10] Everyone except for the diehard listeners

[00:17:11] Are not listening

[00:17:12] This episode's for diehards though

[00:17:13] Clearly

[00:17:15] Should have made the Sense8 episode

[00:17:16] For diehards because it doesn't matter

[00:17:19] Sense8's what's gonna win us the webbing

[00:17:20] So Shane Black

[00:17:21] Then he directs Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

[00:17:22] Iron Man

[00:17:23] But after like seven years of

[00:17:24] Being in the wilderness

[00:17:25] Yes

[00:17:26] Have you seen it?

[00:17:27] I have

[00:17:28] How has it?

[00:17:29] You haven't seen it yet?

[00:17:30] I was disappointed

[00:17:31] But I also am ready to give it a second chance

[00:17:32] I liked it

[00:17:33] I just had heard so many rapturous things

[00:17:35] From other people

[00:17:36] We'll see

[00:17:37] Felt like I didn't get it

[00:17:38] But his screenplays were dense

[00:17:39] Sometimes they take a couple times

[00:17:40] Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of my favorite movies

[00:17:41] Ever made

[00:17:42] And Iron Man 3 I think is

[00:17:43] The best Marvel movie outside of

[00:17:45] The Avengers

[00:17:46] I look at the two as being

[00:17:48] They switch places for me

[00:17:49] But it's like Iron Man 3

[00:17:50] And the Avengers

[00:17:51] Yes

[00:17:52] Depending on the day

[00:17:53] I rank them as one or two

[00:17:54] But those are the two Marvel movies

[00:17:55] I hold hard to believe

[00:17:56] I think the Avengers

[00:17:57] You gotta take that number one

[00:17:58] Because it's kind of the platonic ideal

[00:17:59] Of the movies Marvel wants to make

[00:18:00] Yes

[00:18:01] I think Iron Man 3 is sort of a weird special thing

[00:18:03] Yeah, can I say this?

[00:18:04] I think

[00:18:05] Iron Man 3 also lacks a great villain

[00:18:07] It has a fine villain

[00:18:09] I like it a lot

[00:18:10] Fine, he's fine

[00:18:11] I think The Avengers

[00:18:12] Is the best Marvel movie

[00:18:13] I think Iron Man 3

[00:18:15] Is the best movie that Marvel has made

[00:18:17] And it's one of the best Christmas movies

[00:18:18] Ever made

[00:18:19] Yeah, it's a great film

[00:18:20] It takes place all on Christmas day

[00:18:21] Yeah, that's the big argument

[00:18:22] For Shane Black

[00:18:23] Because we really want to

[00:18:24] Fuck and talk about Iron Man 3

[00:18:25] But there are a lot of goodies in there

[00:18:26] No, no, I want to talk about

[00:18:27] Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

[00:18:28] I talked about doing an Iron Man 3 1-0

[00:18:29] For a while too

[00:18:30] No, I know, alright

[00:18:31] Talk about all those things

[00:18:32] So you don't like my Colin Farrell idea, huh?

[00:18:35] Actors is tough because it's like

[00:18:37] 40 fucking films

[00:18:38] I know, I know

[00:18:39] And I don't want to just be like

[00:18:40] We only do the good ones

[00:18:41] He's the ultimate blank check actor

[00:18:43] One day

[00:18:44] One day I'm going to convince you

[00:18:45] I don't want to do the

[00:18:46] We only do the good ones thing

[00:18:47] And the other people who are off this poll

[00:18:49] Who are sort of the qualified miniseries

[00:18:51] Are the ones where it's like

[00:18:52] Covering this person from this

[00:18:53] Specific time period

[00:18:54] Yeah

[00:18:55] Or only their films in America

[00:18:56] Or things like that

[00:18:57] Those are the two

[00:18:58] Right, I get it

[00:18:59] You know, but it's like

[00:19:00] If you lock it into like

[00:19:01] Parentheses I think it works

[00:19:02] If you just go like

[00:19:03] Ah Colin Farrell, but we're only going to do some of them

[00:19:04] Because like we don't want to do an episode

[00:19:05] In the total recall remake

[00:19:07] Yeah we do

[00:19:08] And I'm in said

[00:19:09] Saw the lobster this weekend

[00:19:10] Good movie though

[00:19:11] My favorite movie of the year

[00:19:12] Fucking loved it

[00:19:13] It's that Wiener for me

[00:19:14] I saw both on the same day

[00:19:15] Wiener is great too

[00:19:16] I just saw Wiener again

[00:19:17] For the second time yesterday

[00:19:18] Wiener's great

[00:19:19] I'm going to see both

[00:19:20] Second time

[00:19:21] They're both jockeying

[00:19:22] For number one for me

[00:19:23] They're both

[00:19:24] I think great, great films

[00:19:25] That Yorgos Lathamoss guy

[00:19:26] I'm a huge fan of his

[00:19:27] You guys check out

[00:19:28] Dogtooth and Alps

[00:19:29] Which are his other films

[00:19:30] Anyway, so

[00:19:31] Those are the four

[00:19:32] We'll put a poll up

[00:19:33] You guys can vote

[00:19:34] But also just tweeted us

[00:19:35] All the time

[00:19:36] Every time at Blank Check Pod

[00:19:37] Ch-to-doop pre-doop

[00:19:39] My brain's not working

[00:19:40] Yeah, me neither

[00:19:41] Let's go

[00:19:42] Jupiter ascending

[00:19:43] Let's go

[00:19:44] Okay, so here's what's nice

[00:19:45] About doing this movie

[00:19:47] When we started this podcast

[00:19:49] When it was previously

[00:19:50] Griffin and David present

[00:19:52] Yeah

[00:19:53] Our very first episode

[00:19:55] We were doing a tweet

[00:19:56] Oh, David's now interrupting

[00:19:58] I was trying to get to the movie at hand

[00:20:00] Yeah, it finally loaded

[00:20:01] It finally loaded

[00:20:03] We'll leave that up

[00:20:04] Because this ties into this episode

[00:20:05] So I'll make that video

[00:20:06] When we were doing our Star Wars podcast

[00:20:08] When we were doing our

[00:20:09] That was terrible for our listeners

[00:20:11] David just interrupted

[00:20:12] To show me a tweet

[00:20:13] That he was proud of

[00:20:14] That was a joke

[00:20:15] Relaying to something we talked about

[00:20:16] Before we recorded

[00:20:17] Yeah, exactly

[00:20:18] A tweet I've been trying to load

[00:20:19] For an hour

[00:20:20] Yeah, the wifi is really bad here

[00:20:21] No, when we were doing our

[00:20:23] In our very first episode

[00:20:24] When we were sort of explaining why

[00:20:26] We were doing this silly concept

[00:20:28] Which was talking about the Phantom Manus

[00:20:30] As if the other Star Wars movies didn't exist

[00:20:33] We said like

[00:20:34] You know, we want to remove the context

[00:20:35] That everyone's viewing this film

[00:20:36] And judging it against the others

[00:20:39] And look at it as what it's

[00:20:41] Pretending to be

[00:20:42] Which is just the first movie

[00:20:44] In a new franchise

[00:20:45] Without the baggage

[00:20:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:20:47] Right?

[00:20:48] And we said like

[00:20:49] It's like if it was just Jupiter ascendant

[00:20:50] Right, we talk about it in

[00:20:51] More than one of our early episodes

[00:20:53] Yeah, but in the first one

[00:20:54] I was at the very early sort of reference point

[00:20:56] We threw out

[00:20:57] It's like we want to try to view the Phantom Manus

[00:20:58] Like it's Jupiter ascendant

[00:20:59] And we think and we both

[00:21:00] Very early on we're like

[00:21:01] By the way, we just said Jupiter ascendant

[00:21:02] We love it

[00:21:03] Fun movie

[00:21:04] We love it

[00:21:05] Liked it

[00:21:06] Why is everyone all shitting on it?

[00:21:07] It's now been over a year

[00:21:08] We've been doing this podcast

[00:21:09] Right?

[00:21:10] Yeah, Jupiter ascend came out

[00:21:12] February 6th, 2015

[00:21:14] Yeah, and I think we started

[00:21:15] Like the week after that

[00:21:16] In March

[00:21:17] Right, yeah

[00:21:18] Oh no, because we were recording

[00:21:19] Right, right

[00:21:20] Anyway, anyway

[00:21:21] Oh my god

[00:21:22] We're building up to talking about this film at length

[00:21:24] Since the very beginning of the show

[00:21:25] A passing carnation

[00:21:26] I mean, of course

[00:21:27] That's exactly what this is

[00:21:28] Our lives are not our own

[00:21:29] Cycling over and over again

[00:21:30] You know, rebirth

[00:21:31] It's a cloud atlas

[00:21:32] And now we're a new life

[00:21:33] And we get to talk about Jupiter ascendant

[00:21:35] Yeah, we're all food for

[00:21:36] Galactic royalty

[00:21:37] Now who gets to talk about

[00:21:38] Jupiter ascendant?

[00:21:39] Myself, Griffin Newman

[00:21:41] Yourself, David Sims

[00:21:42] Yeah

[00:21:43] But also there's

[00:21:44] There's a third Amigo

[00:21:45] Who recently told me

[00:21:46] This just an hour ago

[00:21:47] That he thought this movie was silly

[00:21:49] Yeah

[00:21:51] It's okay

[00:21:54] I didn't hate it

[00:21:55] So I'm gonna do his name

[00:21:56] His name is Ben Hosley

[00:21:57] And he's the producer of the podcast

[00:21:59] Hello

[00:22:00] Yeah, great

[00:22:01] You also might know his producer Ben

[00:22:03] He were Ben the Benducer

[00:22:04] The Poet Laureate

[00:22:05] The Hos

[00:22:06] Our finest film critic

[00:22:07] The fuckmaster

[00:22:08] The tiebreaker

[00:22:09] Birthday Benny

[00:22:10] Mr. Positive

[00:22:12] I said the poet Laureate

[00:22:13] He's not Professor Crispy

[00:22:15] He is the peeper

[00:22:16] You always forget about that one

[00:22:17] I know it's cause

[00:22:18] He's not in the room with us

[00:22:19] He's not peeping right now

[00:22:20] They have to install a window

[00:22:22] So we can see him peeping at us

[00:22:24] He also, you know

[00:22:26] Has graduated through

[00:22:28] Many series to titles such as

[00:22:30] Producer Ben Kenobi

[00:22:32] Kylo Ben

[00:22:33] And Ben Nyech Tramlin

[00:22:34] What's this Wachowski title gonna be?

[00:22:36] I don't know

[00:22:37] Tweet at us if you have ideas

[00:22:38] Oh yeah

[00:22:39] Yeah

[00:22:40] So yeah, those are your two jobs as listeners

[00:22:42] We'll have a poll

[00:22:43] Up by the time this episode lands

[00:22:44] With the four candidates

[00:22:45] For the next season

[00:22:46] I want you to vote

[00:22:48] And I want you to tweet at us a name

[00:22:50] That Ben can attach

[00:22:52] To his, his vest

[00:22:54] You know

[00:22:55] Anyway

[00:22:56] Ben's here

[00:22:57] Ben is here

[00:22:58] Yes, excited to talk about this film

[00:23:00] We were trying to do this vest thing

[00:23:02] And I was just like

[00:23:03] You move it along

[00:23:04] I was trying to do like he was a TGI Friday's waiter

[00:23:06] And he had a vest with a lot of flair on it

[00:23:08] Oh sure

[00:23:09] Ben has shaved his head pretty much

[00:23:10] Since we last saw him

[00:23:11] Yeah, that's true

[00:23:12] He's a newly shorn Ben

[00:23:14] I'm also

[00:23:15] Alive still

[00:23:17] Oh yeah

[00:23:18] Yeah, that's good

[00:23:19] That was a cliffhanger

[00:23:20] Because that episode was recorded 20 weeks ago

[00:23:21] Some of our listeners might have thought that you were

[00:23:23] Not going to make it

[00:23:24] Yeah, dead by now

[00:23:25] I'm still here

[00:23:26] Yeah

[00:23:27] Are you feeling okay?

[00:23:28] Yes, no

[00:23:29] I'm a lot better

[00:23:30] But listening back to this episode

[00:23:31] It's like I sounded

[00:23:32] Like I think David pointed out

[00:23:33] I sounded like Darth Vader

[00:23:34] Just like wheezing in the background

[00:23:36] Yes, you did

[00:23:37] And we love you all the more for it

[00:23:39] The film today

[00:23:41] Is Jupiter Ascending

[00:23:42] It's a film that I would also describe as silly

[00:23:44] But I would use that as

[00:23:45] A very affectionate term

[00:23:46] Me too

[00:23:47] I mean, I feel very affectionately towards this movie

[00:23:50] Yeah

[00:23:51] I will say

[00:23:53] It might be my least favorite Wachowski movie

[00:23:56] Oh, not mine

[00:23:58] But you probably are getting the Matrix prequels in there

[00:24:01] A sequel

[00:24:02] Right?

[00:24:03] Yeah, I guess it's

[00:24:04] We're going to rank for the movie in the end of the episode

[00:24:07] But I like all the Wachowskis movies

[00:24:09] And I like this movie a lot

[00:24:11] I love this movie

[00:24:12] Re-watching it

[00:24:13] Clarified some of its flaws for me

[00:24:15] But also clarified the things I love about it

[00:24:17] See, I'll say the opposite thing

[00:24:19] I was like you watched it

[00:24:21] You know, critic shit on this movie

[00:24:23] Really hard, right?

[00:24:24] When it came out they did

[00:24:25] Even when that was happening

[00:24:27] There was already a little

[00:24:29] A couple movement building of like

[00:24:30] Hey guys, like Jesus

[00:24:32] They tried to make a fucking original movie

[00:24:34] Yeah

[00:24:35] I also assumed there'd be more of a second-win

[00:24:37] Sort of groundswell by now

[00:24:38] But it's kind of quiet

[00:24:39] People are sort of just forgotten about it

[00:24:42] I mean it has its fervent fans

[00:24:43] But I don't know if this is ever going to be like

[00:24:46] The genuine kind of cult movie where

[00:24:48] Like I have to read fucking articles

[00:24:49] Every six months of like

[00:24:50] Jupiter ascending sequel possible?

[00:24:52] Yeah, or even like a speed racer thing

[00:24:54] Where you're constantly making articles

[00:24:56] To like argue why it wasn't

[00:24:57] It was misunderstood at the time, you know

[00:24:59] Which I think it was

[00:25:00] I think it deserves those types of articles

[00:25:02] At some point in the future

[00:25:03] Me too

[00:25:04] But they made a horrible mistake

[00:25:07] With this film

[00:25:08] Which was they premiered it at Sundance

[00:25:10] Yeah, and a secret screening

[00:25:12] I remember that

[00:25:13] So they were like there's a big studio movie

[00:25:15] All the Sundance crowd having just been watching movies

[00:25:16] Like The Witch

[00:25:17] And like Me and Earl and the Dying Girl

[00:25:19] And then they come out and they're like

[00:25:21] Yeah, it's fucking stupid

[00:25:23] Like that was the large

[00:25:24] Like it wasn't like a lot of nuance

[00:25:26] Right, and so immediately

[00:25:27] There are a bunch of tweets from everyone

[00:25:28] Making fun of this movie

[00:25:29] People were hyped for this movie

[00:25:32] Kind of

[00:25:33] No, they were

[00:25:34] Critics were

[00:25:35] Yeah, I don't mean the public

[00:25:36] Obviously they were

[00:25:37] Critics were like, you know

[00:25:39] All in on Channing Tatum

[00:25:41] He was like really, you know

[00:25:42] And he's obviously there's still all in on him

[00:25:44] But at that moment he was really hot

[00:25:45] He was on a real role

[00:25:46] Yeah

[00:25:47] You know, they were

[00:25:48] All in

[00:25:50] Or comedy form

[00:25:51] Or comedy form

[00:25:53] They were all in on

[00:25:56] Franchise fatigue

[00:25:57] Yes

[00:25:58] Sequel fatigue

[00:25:59] Give us something new

[00:26:00] And it's like hey here's it's a whole

[00:26:01] Like movie has nothing to do with anything

[00:26:03] Based off nothing

[00:26:04] The only thing it's based off

[00:26:05] Is that there's a planet called Jupiter

[00:26:07] Yeah

[00:26:08] In the sky

[00:26:09] Yeah

[00:26:10] You know people like Mila Cunis

[00:26:11] There is that weird credit at the end of the film

[00:26:13] Where it says based on the planet Jupiter by God

[00:26:18] David doesn't like it

[00:26:19] Nope

[00:26:20] Mila Cunis

[00:26:21] People liked her

[00:26:22] I don't know

[00:26:23] You know, there was certainly no hostility towards Mila

[00:26:25] No, I think after Black Swan

[00:26:27] People were really excited

[00:26:28] And in between Black Swan

[00:26:29] In this film she had done a couple

[00:26:31] Sort of like

[00:26:32] The Oz picture

[00:26:34] Yeah, made a lot of money

[00:26:35] But already

[00:26:36] She's really horrible in it

[00:26:37] Yes

[00:26:38] And I would argue it's

[00:26:39] I like Mila but

[00:26:40] Not her haul necessarily

[00:26:42] I mean, I don't know

[00:26:43] But it's not a good performance

[00:26:44] But also I think

[00:26:45] You know even though

[00:26:46] Speed Racer and Cloud Atlas

[00:26:47] Had not hit

[00:26:48] Yes

[00:26:49] There was a lot of love

[00:26:50] For those movies sort of floating around

[00:26:51] In the ether

[00:26:52] And people were kind of ready for like

[00:26:53] Hey let's

[00:26:54] Let's

[00:26:55] Let the Wachowskis are going to be back

[00:26:56] It's going to be fun

[00:26:57] And this on its face

[00:26:59] Seemed like a more conventional

[00:27:01] Accessible film

[00:27:02] It is a more conventional

[00:27:03] Accessible film

[00:27:04] Right

[00:27:05] That doesn't mean it's conventional

[00:27:06] And accessible

[00:27:07] No, I don't think it's accessible

[00:27:08] Yeah

[00:27:09] It's like PG-13

[00:27:10] It's the only PG-13 movie they've ever made

[00:27:12] Because Speed Racer is PG

[00:27:14] Right

[00:27:15] And I think that's a huge problem

[00:27:17] To be honest

[00:27:18] That the film's PG-13?

[00:27:19] Yeah

[00:27:20] I don't think they work well in that

[00:27:21] In that world

[00:27:22] I've never seen this film before

[00:27:24] So going into it

[00:27:26] I had read something

[00:27:27] Some like brief synopsis

[00:27:29] And they're referring to it

[00:27:30] As a space opera

[00:27:32] Yeah

[00:27:33] Yeah it's definitely a space opera

[00:27:34] Okay, so maybe I'm just

[00:27:35] Unfamiliar

[00:27:36] I was assuming that there's

[00:27:37] Going to be a whole bunch of singing

[00:27:39] That's what I thought was going to happen

[00:27:41] With this movie

[00:27:42] Ladies and gentlemen, the podcast is over

[00:27:44] It's over

[00:27:46] We will never record again

[00:27:49] We're not going to do better than that

[00:27:52] He's our finest film critic

[00:27:53] He's our finest film critic

[00:27:54] Ben Hosley

[00:27:56] You're welcome

[00:27:57] The best thing is

[00:27:59] You know that's true

[00:28:01] I know that's true

[00:28:02] That's 100% since then

[00:28:03] That's not a joke

[00:28:04] Griffin is red with

[00:28:06] With laughter

[00:28:07] I read like Ben

[00:28:08] So I was actually disappointed

[00:28:10] Because I was kind of excited for that

[00:28:12] You just wanted them to

[00:28:13] Burst in a song

[00:28:14] Totally

[00:28:15] That would have been good

[00:28:16] That would have been really cool

[00:28:17] Here's the thing the listeners need to understand

[00:28:19] About Ben, right?

[00:28:20] Because they only get to

[00:28:21] Experience him in this context

[00:28:23] Me and Griffin came up with

[00:28:24] The idea for this podcast

[00:28:25] Ben is long for the ride

[00:28:27] Ben is like

[00:28:28] It's like if we were in

[00:28:29] Some kind of space adventure

[00:28:30] He's like

[00:28:31] The guy who was sort of

[00:28:33] On board fixing something

[00:28:34] And then we had to like

[00:28:35] Blast into deep space

[00:28:36] And now he just is sort of like

[00:28:37] With us

[00:28:38] But sometimes we say shit

[00:28:39] And he is so confused by us

[00:28:41] Ben is like say 3PO

[00:28:43] You know like

[00:28:44] Ben wasn't like meant for this

[00:28:45] Or like say in Rockwell

[00:28:46] In Galaxy Quest maybe

[00:28:49] But here's the thing you have

[00:28:50] To understand about Ben, okay

[00:28:51] Because some people might be like

[00:28:52] Is Ben real?

[00:28:53] Is he like a character?

[00:28:54] How much of this is a bit?

[00:28:56] Right

[00:28:57] No it's real

[00:28:58] Here's the thing

[00:28:59] Ben's a comedian

[00:29:00] Ben knows that he's funny

[00:29:01] You know

[00:29:02] But also Ben has never said

[00:29:03] Anything on the show that isn't

[00:29:04] 100% genuine

[00:29:05] No it's real

[00:29:06] He's real

[00:29:07] Like you're excited that you're

[00:29:08] Gonna get a laugh off of your

[00:29:09] Real opinions

[00:29:10] But they are your real opinions

[00:29:12] Pretty much

[00:29:13] Yep

[00:29:15] Alright

[00:29:16] Okay

[00:29:17] So this film has no songs in it

[00:29:19] Sadly

[00:29:20] Sadly

[00:29:21] No space opera

[00:29:22] You know just grand melodramatic

[00:29:23] Space adventures from this

[00:29:25] I don't know the 50s

[00:29:26] Like I feel like it's when

[00:29:27] It sort of came around

[00:29:28] I would argue

[00:29:29] Probably even earlier

[00:29:30] Perhaps even earlier

[00:29:31] Yeah

[00:29:32] Like all the Gordon type movies

[00:29:33] Or the serials of the 30s

[00:29:34] That kind of stuff

[00:29:35] I saw this film IMAX opening weekend

[00:29:37] I saw it at a press screening

[00:29:38] This is the first film where

[00:29:39] I had my job as a film critic

[00:29:41] Really

[00:29:42] That's so cool

[00:29:43] This is your first one

[00:29:44] Yeah I took my roommate Molly

[00:29:46] And we had a fucking great time

[00:29:48] Yeah

[00:29:49] And because I saw it at a

[00:29:50] Critics screening

[00:29:51] There

[00:29:52] It's always a different crowd

[00:29:53] It's a different vibe

[00:29:54] And so lines like

[00:29:56] I've always loved dogs

[00:29:57] Got like a huge laugh

[00:29:59] And it's not like a genuine laugh

[00:30:01] It's a knowing laugh

[00:30:02] Not like a completely sarcastic laugh

[00:30:04] Yeah

[00:30:05] But definitely there was like

[00:30:06] A slight air of derision in the

[00:30:07] In the crowd

[00:30:08] But I think that

[00:30:09] I remember it going genuine

[00:30:10] Generally fine

[00:30:11] With a laughs like this

[00:30:12] No no no

[00:30:13] There was a

[00:30:14] The bees and the dog

[00:30:16] They just got big laughs

[00:30:17] Like

[00:30:18] Not like when I saw Mother's Day

[00:30:20] Yeah

[00:30:21] And at one point

[00:30:22] Literally after a sincere line

[00:30:23] Was delivered

[00:30:24] One person just screamed

[00:30:25] Jesus Christ

[00:30:27] Which was a great moment

[00:30:28] And then we all laughed

[00:30:29] I've told you the best thing

[00:30:30] I ever heard someone yell out

[00:30:31] At a movie right

[00:30:32] What

[00:30:33] A couple's retreat

[00:30:35] The Vince Vaughn Favreau

[00:30:37] Bateman, FaZe on Love Picture

[00:30:38] That's not let's yeah

[00:30:39] It was a FaZe on Love joint

[00:30:41] Yeah

[00:30:42] So the opening setup

[00:30:44] Of the film is that

[00:30:45] Talk about a film that

[00:30:46] Literally doesn't exist

[00:30:47] And made like

[00:30:48] 200 million dollars domestic

[00:30:50] It's great

[00:30:51] And another hundred

[00:30:52] At least overseas

[00:30:53] Huge movie doesn't exist

[00:30:55] I can

[00:30:56] It does not exist

[00:30:57] Like all those Vince Vaughn movies

[00:30:58] Like for Christmas

[00:30:59] Doesn't exist

[00:31:00] Just like they came out

[00:31:01] Made a ton of money

[00:31:02] No one would ever acknowledge

[00:31:03] That they saw them

[00:31:04] You know what's a fun fact about

[00:31:05] The dilemma

[00:31:07] Didn't even make money that one

[00:31:08] Didn't exist

[00:31:09] Didn't exist

[00:31:10] Wasn't made

[00:31:11] Delivery man doesn't exist

[00:31:12] Delivery man

[00:31:13] Doesn't exist

[00:31:15] Shoot

[00:31:16] So what happened to

[00:31:17] A couple's retreat

[00:31:18] Perfect couple

[00:31:19] So the scene that sets up

[00:31:20] The movie is

[00:31:21] Bateman and Kristen Bell

[00:31:22] Are like

[00:31:23] We bought this package

[00:31:25] You know one of those

[00:31:26] Normal

[00:31:27] Four couples packages

[00:31:28] Where if one couple doesn't show up

[00:31:29] The whole package

[00:31:30] I'm gonna pop up bad for

[00:31:31] One of those every day

[00:31:32] That goes out the window

[00:31:33] And we don't offer refunds

[00:31:34] Right?

[00:31:37] Okay

[00:31:38] The setup for the film

[00:31:39] And they're like

[00:31:40] We can't do this

[00:31:41] We're not doing this

[00:31:42] And he goes like

[00:31:43] Look, I'm gonna level with you guys

[00:31:44] Our marriage is in a pretty rocky place

[00:31:47] And this

[00:31:48] This trip is sort of our last chance

[00:31:51] Cause if

[00:31:52] This doesn't work out

[00:31:54] We're thinking of getting a divorce

[00:31:56] And some guy in the back of the theater

[00:31:57] Just goes

[00:31:58] Pfft

[00:31:59] Gay

[00:32:02] So

[00:32:06] Here's my question

[00:32:08] Is it gay to get divorced?

[00:32:10] Yes

[00:32:11] Or is he saying like

[00:32:12] The problem at the heart of their marriage

[00:32:14] Is that Jason Bateman is

[00:32:15] That's the question

[00:32:16] And he's just not dealing with that

[00:32:18] Did this guy think

[00:32:19] He had cracked the plot

[00:32:20] Like he had predicted

[00:32:21] What the movie's about

[00:32:22] No

[00:32:23] Okay

[00:32:24] Does their marriage get saved

[00:32:25] Yes

[00:32:26] Who are the other couples in that movie?

[00:32:28] Vince Vaughan and Melan Ackerman?

[00:32:29] Correct

[00:32:30] And the other one is

[00:32:31] John Favreau and

[00:32:32] Kristen Davis

[00:32:33] Oh, yeah

[00:32:34] What a natural couple those two

[00:32:37] Does John Favreau like

[00:32:38] In like beached whale level

[00:32:40] Yes

[00:32:41] Yeah

[00:32:42] And the idea in that movie

[00:32:43] Is an overweight man

[00:32:44] They hate each other in that film

[00:32:45] And they keep on fucking other people

[00:32:46] But they're fine with it

[00:32:47] Oh, yeah

[00:32:48] And at the end

[00:32:49] The fact that they hate each other

[00:32:50] Like turns them onto each other

[00:32:51] And they have

[00:32:52] And then phase on love

[00:32:53] And Kelly Thorn

[00:32:54] Is that right?

[00:32:55] Kelly Hawk

[00:32:56] Kelly Thorn is

[00:32:57] The main actress who's been

[00:32:58] Rescue me for years

[00:32:59] No Kelly Hawk

[00:33:00] Who was on New Girl

[00:33:02] For a little while

[00:33:03] She's like a comedic actress

[00:33:04] Sure

[00:33:05] That was her first movie

[00:33:06] She didn't blow up

[00:33:07] I actually think she's very talented

[00:33:08] Did Tarkovsky direct that one?

[00:33:09] Or was he?

[00:33:10] You knew who directed that one?

[00:33:12] Peter Billingsley

[00:33:13] Of a Christmas story

[00:33:15] Ralphie from a Christmas story

[00:33:17] Amazing

[00:33:18] Anyway

[00:33:19] Also co-starring

[00:33:20] Peter Serf

[00:33:21] Not what?

[00:33:22] My big blue body

[00:33:24] And it's more Morrison

[00:33:26] Or Jango Fett

[00:33:27] Jango Fett himself

[00:33:28] So it all

[00:33:29] They play

[00:33:30] Ties in together

[00:33:31] Retreat

[00:33:32] They play holiday specialists

[00:33:33] Of some sort or another

[00:33:34] Yeah, I'd argue the best joke

[00:33:35] In the entire film

[00:33:36] Is that

[00:33:37] Serf Finowitz introduces himself

[00:33:39] As Stanley spelt with a C

[00:33:41] And you spend the entire movie

[00:33:42] Trying to figure out where the C is

[00:33:44] And at one point they see it

[00:33:45] Written down

[00:33:46] And it's

[00:33:47] S-C-T-A-N-L-E-Y

[00:33:50] Jupiter ascending

[00:33:51] Jupiter ascending is a

[00:33:52] Movie I have a big crush on

[00:33:54] Yeah me too

[00:33:55] That's my feeling

[00:33:56] Especially like the opening

[00:33:57] Which is gorgeous

[00:33:58] Gorgeous

[00:33:59] Gorgeous opening

[00:34:00] Just the shot at Jupiter

[00:34:01] Yeah

[00:34:02] Fucking take it up the whole screen

[00:34:04] I'm gonna do the whole review in this

[00:34:06] I saw this movie in IMAX

[00:34:07] Like it looked so beautiful

[00:34:08] In 2D or 3D

[00:34:09] It's so pretty

[00:34:10] 3D

[00:34:11] Which I was happy to watch it in 2D now

[00:34:12] Oh yeah, since I'm gonna say

[00:34:13] The Sundance reviews were terrible

[00:34:15] Right?

[00:34:16] Like the just immediate tweets

[00:34:17] And like the movie came out

[00:34:18] Like a week and a half later

[00:34:19] It was like pretty rapid

[00:34:20] Yeah

[00:34:21] And the official reviews

[00:34:22] That came out in between

[00:34:23] The Sundance reviews

[00:34:24] And like the release of the film were even worse

[00:34:26] Yeah

[00:34:27] At that point the narrative was out

[00:34:28] It was a pile on

[00:34:29] It was like what the fuck

[00:34:30] Are they even trying to do

[00:34:31] It wasn't a Psylon from Bella Circulactic

[00:34:33] It was a Pylon

[00:34:34] No

[00:34:35] Great 4 comedy points

[00:34:37] I don't know

[00:34:39] That's all I wanted

[00:34:41] I'm gonna go

[00:34:43] So I went into a brace and was like

[00:34:44] Cause I want to like it

[00:34:45] I really did

[00:34:46] Right?

[00:34:47] Yeah me too

[00:34:48] First off

[00:34:49] I remember I was really stubborn

[00:34:51] Like the reviews came out

[00:34:52] And I was like fuck them

[00:34:53] Me too

[00:34:54] Cause I really had liked Speed Racer

[00:34:55] And I like like

[00:34:56] I was already in my fervent

[00:34:57] Defense of the Matrix

[00:34:58] Sequels mode

[00:34:59] So I was like no

[00:35:01] No, you'll be great

[00:35:02] I'm not listening to you dummies

[00:35:03] Yeah

[00:35:04] But I also secretly was like

[00:35:05] Fuck this really doesn't sound

[00:35:06] Encouraging

[00:35:07] I also wanted it to make a ton of money

[00:35:09] Me too

[00:35:10] And already kind of

[00:35:11] Could tell it wasn't going to

[00:35:12] So I was a little sad about that

[00:35:13] The Diabon cast

[00:35:14] Cause it was supposed to come out

[00:35:15] The summer earlier

[00:35:16] They pushed it back to February

[00:35:17] Yeah they pushed it back for VFX work

[00:35:18] Which I think is accurate

[00:35:19] I'm pretty sure that's why they did it

[00:35:21] But I also think

[00:35:22] When the movie was two months out

[00:35:24] From being released

[00:35:25] As like a July thing

[00:35:26] So that was the other thing

[00:35:27] I forgot about that

[00:35:28] It really fucked the movie

[00:35:29] Cause it had been advertised

[00:35:31] For a while

[00:35:32] Big posters up

[00:35:33] Trailer's TV at like

[00:35:34] And then it just never came out

[00:35:35] And then finally

[00:35:36] Of course it gets dumped

[00:35:37] Like two weeks before the

[00:35:38] I mean a month before the Oscars

[00:35:40] Not even really

[00:35:41] Like a few weeks before the Oscars

[00:35:42] I think it came out the week before

[00:35:43] Cause I remember Redmayne won

[00:35:44] The week after

[00:35:45] Right people were worried

[00:35:46] This would be his Norbit

[00:35:47] But it was too late

[00:35:48] Redmayne was like

[00:35:49] Fuck you

[00:35:50] Whereas I view it as the opposite

[00:35:51] I saw the movie and I went fine

[00:35:52] You can give him the Oscar

[00:35:53] After seeing this performance

[00:35:54] I was like fine

[00:35:55] The guys earned it

[00:35:56] Yeah he didn't earn it

[00:35:57] I think he did

[00:35:58] I mean I like him in this movie

[00:35:59] I just don't like him that much

[00:36:01] Oh agreed

[00:36:02] I think he's good

[00:36:03] In the early sections

[00:36:04] Yeah he's alright

[00:36:05] As a student

[00:36:06] Yeah Douglas Booth could have done it

[00:36:08] Agreed

[00:36:09] Another cast member from

[00:36:11] Jupiter Standing

[00:36:12] That was my joke

[00:36:13] So yeah I said

[00:36:14] Right yeah I know

[00:36:15] I was just putting a point on it

[00:36:16] I said earlier I love this movie

[00:36:18] But when I say like

[00:36:19] I love it it's great

[00:36:20] It makes it sound like it's like

[00:36:21] Perfect or that's transcendent

[00:36:23] Or that's a miraculous piece of art

[00:36:24] Which it is

[00:36:25] That it's ascendant

[00:36:26] But it is that it ascends

[00:36:27] But I do like

[00:36:28] I watch this movie and I like

[00:36:29] Have a crush on it

[00:36:30] Like I want to kiss this movie

[00:36:31] Like I kind of want to fuck this movie

[00:36:33] You know I don't know if I want to marry it

[00:36:35] But I like I'm watching it

[00:36:36] And I'm just like

[00:36:37] Yeah yeah it's go on just

[00:36:38] I think this movie is lovely

[00:36:39] Like I think this movie is so charming

[00:36:41] And so pretty

[00:36:42] Yes I agree with everything you're saying

[00:36:45] I think I just want it to be better than it is

[00:36:47] But I think it's good

[00:36:48] Well I went into it the second viewing

[00:36:50] And I was like

[00:36:51] Okay your guard's been down

[00:36:52] You already liked it more than everyone else did

[00:36:54] You're not trying to prove a point anymore

[00:36:56] Now we're in the context of all their films

[00:36:58] You're gonna judge it a little more harshly

[00:37:00] Like pick it apart

[00:37:01] Like I was ready to like it significantly less

[00:37:04] And I didn't

[00:37:06] That's good

[00:37:07] I finished watching the film

[00:37:09] And I was like would watch again

[00:37:11] Like I almost just want to restart it

[00:37:12] Just because I like living in the world of this movie

[00:37:14] Well that's the thing

[00:37:15] I like the world of the movie

[00:37:16] I like the world of the movie

[00:37:17] I mostly like the look of the movie

[00:37:19] Yeah

[00:37:20] I love the cast of the movie

[00:37:21] And I love the idea of like intergalactic

[00:37:25] Erisocratic politics

[00:37:27] Like being part of a big action movie

[00:37:30] And I'll say that stuff worked better for me

[00:37:32] On the second viewing than the first one

[00:37:34] Here's what doesn't work in this movie

[00:37:35] Okay

[00:37:36] The action

[00:37:37] Disagree

[00:37:38] Yeah the action is the big problem in this movie

[00:37:40] Number two

[00:37:42] And it really hurts me to say it

[00:37:45] It like makes my skin feel like it's on fire

[00:37:48] But like Channing Tatum

[00:37:50] Soft disagree

[00:37:51] I mean like and I don't think he's terrible or anything

[00:37:53] But I think he's not meeting this material where he needs to meet it

[00:37:57] And I think the same is true of Mila Kunis

[00:37:59] But I also think the script underserves her a little bit

[00:38:01] Yeah I think neither of them are great

[00:38:02] I think both of them work

[00:38:03] But I understand why people don't like those performances

[00:38:06] Um

[00:38:08] Let us

[00:38:10] Let's take this away

[00:38:11] Go through the plot

[00:38:12] But I'll say this

[00:38:13] Talking about why I want to live in the world of the movie

[00:38:15] Avatar

[00:38:16] Which both of us like

[00:38:18] Dun-dun-dun-dun

[00:38:20] Dun-dun-dun-dun

[00:38:21] Yeah go ahead

[00:38:22] Dun-dun-dun-dun

[00:38:24] Were we to do Cameron as our next main series

[00:38:27] Should the people vote so

[00:38:28] Big Jim

[00:38:29] Uh if we go down Big Dick Jim's road

[00:38:32] We're both ready to offend Avatar

[00:38:34] Which now you know has people have turned their backs on

[00:38:37] As it's own reputation

[00:38:38] Right

[00:38:39] But there was this sort of story that was getting circulated after the film

[00:38:41] That like all these people were depressed

[00:38:43] These like sad lonely people because they saw Avatar

[00:38:45] And they want to live in Pandora so much

[00:38:47] That they got depressed living in the real world

[00:38:49] They started these online communities

[00:38:50] And that was part of the thing that boosted the box office

[00:38:52] Was people see it like ten times

[00:38:54] I once was directed to a reddit thread

[00:38:55] Of people explaining how you could enter a lucid dreaming state

[00:38:59] So that you could then control your dreams and enter Pandora

[00:39:02] Right

[00:39:03] Yeah

[00:39:04] Shit like that was happening

[00:39:05] This is true

[00:39:06] Now maybe that person was just making it up

[00:39:08] I don't know it was a funny internet thing

[00:39:10] But there was shit like that happening

[00:39:11] My point is

[00:39:12] People began to be sad that the world of Avatar was fictional

[00:39:16] They didn't live in Pandora

[00:39:17] There was a small community of people who were just sad about that

[00:39:20] And that was like the big gamut when Disney announced their Avatar theme park

[00:39:23] Was they were like people will pay to live in that thing

[00:39:26] For a fucking four hours at a time you know

[00:39:28] Which still hasn't opened

[00:39:29] Yeah

[00:39:30] Much like the sequels still have not been made

[00:39:32] But I watching that film I like Avatar a lot

[00:39:35] I'll defend to the end of the day

[00:39:37] I don't have that impulse at all

[00:39:39] I watch it and I'm just like okay

[00:39:40] Like I don't want to live in that world

[00:39:42] I don't think it's particularly beautiful

[00:39:43] No I think it's fine

[00:39:44] It seems like a fairly dangerous

[00:39:46] There's a lot of rhinos in it

[00:39:48] I'm cool just watching it

[00:39:49] I do want to live in Jupiter ascending

[00:39:51] Like I watched this movie and I want to live in like these

[00:39:54] That's not how I feel

[00:39:55] I just like the idea of creating

[00:39:58] Look

[00:39:59] Let's go through the plot

[00:40:00] Yeah we go

[00:40:01] But just to say like we always talk about how the Wachowskis

[00:40:04] Do something that's like really unfashionable

[00:40:06] Or kind of ahead of its time

[00:40:07] And I think the thing they did here that was unfashionable

[00:40:09] Was creating a world whole cloth

[00:40:11] Like a really complicated world

[00:40:13] That they have to explain to you

[00:40:14] Yeah

[00:40:15] A lot

[00:40:16] There's a lot of explanation in the movie

[00:40:18] Yeah

[00:40:19] And like original sci-fi worlds were just not the thing

[00:40:23] At the time

[00:40:24] This feels like a movie right out of the 80s

[00:40:25] It's also correct

[00:40:27] It's also

[00:40:28] Down to its villains

[00:40:29] When you get into the space opera thing

[00:40:31] I think that's even a bit of a misnomer

[00:40:32] Not just because of how it confused Ben

[00:40:34] But because

[00:40:36] I think this really is like a children's fantasy story

[00:40:39] Yeah

[00:40:40] In sci-fi clothing

[00:40:41] Yeah

[00:40:42] You know I read

[00:40:43] The nexus

[00:40:45] The sort of like kernel that this film started from

[00:40:48] Was they were reading

[00:40:49] A lot of fantasy

[00:40:50] They were reading Wizard of Oz

[00:40:51] They were reading Alice in Wonderland

[00:40:52] They were reading all of those

[00:40:53] And they went

[00:40:54] These types of protagonists we find very interesting

[00:40:56] These young women

[00:40:58] Were throwing these crazy worlds

[00:40:59] And they keep this head on their shoulder

[00:41:01] Yeah

[00:41:02] And they're sort of succeeding and making their way through

[00:41:05] The land through judgment

[00:41:06] Yeah

[00:41:07] And morality

[00:41:08] Right

[00:41:09] That's where I'd say the film falls down

[00:41:10] But yes

[00:41:11] I'd agree but you also look at those films

[00:41:12] And Alice and Dorothy are both pretty passive characters

[00:41:16] Things happen to them

[00:41:18] And it's about how they react to them

[00:41:20] But it's not that much about them taking

[00:41:22] Decisive action

[00:41:24] Right

[00:41:25] It's about who they remain in these worlds

[00:41:26] That's fair

[00:41:27] Sure

[00:41:28] Like she has a moral compass

[00:41:30] That essentially like holds true

[00:41:32] Yeah

[00:41:33] Although a couple of times she almost fucking

[00:41:35] Signs away the rights of all humans

[00:41:37] But she doesn't

[00:41:38] I think that's what defines her as a character

[00:41:39] Is that she

[00:41:40] Yeah but she doesn't because Channing Tatum

[00:41:41] Fucking crashes through a window on his roller skates

[00:41:43] What

[00:41:44] But the second time she fucking makes a choice herself

[00:41:46] Kind of

[00:41:47] I'd say she does

[00:41:48] I was watching out for this really working

[00:41:50] Like

[00:41:51] Yeah

[00:41:52] On that and she doesn't quite he interrupts again

[00:41:54] But she makes more of a decision herself

[00:41:56] But also by that time and we'll complain

[00:41:58] About this the whole thing is so fucking confusing

[00:42:00] Why doesn't every remain just killer

[00:42:02] I don't get it

[00:42:03] I don't get it

[00:42:04] He wants to kill her at the beginning of the movie

[00:42:05] Why doesn't he kill her at the end

[00:42:06] Doesn't she say that he can't though

[00:42:08] She says that he can't but the movie doesn't do enough work

[00:42:10] Explaining why that has changed

[00:42:12] This is where I start to get annoyed at the movie

[00:42:14] But whatever

[00:42:15] I guess anyway

[00:42:16] I mean the idea was they want to try to make Alice in Wonderland as a sci-fi film

[00:42:18] They want to put that star protagonist into a sci-fi trapping

[00:42:20] And I think they confuse people

[00:42:21] Let's go to the beginning

[00:42:22] I think Wizard of Oz is the better choice

[00:42:23] Because as they say

[00:42:25] She's Dorothy

[00:42:26] And he's Toto

[00:42:27] Which I think is such a funny idea

[00:42:29] Amazing

[00:42:30] Anyway

[00:42:31] So the movie is about

[00:42:33] A girl

[00:42:35] Named Jupiter Jones

[00:42:36] Jupiter Jones

[00:42:37] Who is a Russian immigrant

[00:42:39] Her father played by James Darcy

[00:42:41] Our old buddy from Cloud Atlas

[00:42:43] From Cloudy Atlas

[00:42:44] Cloudy Atlas

[00:42:46] Was an astronomer

[00:42:48] And a seemingly nice boy

[00:42:49] He had a beautiful golden

[00:42:51] Good in Dennis Scoop

[00:42:53] A Dennis Scoop of Gord

[00:42:55] Who wooed a nice lady

[00:42:58] A nice Russian lady

[00:42:59] Played by Maria Doyle Kennedy

[00:43:02] With his

[00:43:04] Sort of

[00:43:05] Winsome charm

[00:43:07] And interesting space

[00:43:09] That Darcy twinkle

[00:43:11] And then he gets killed

[00:43:13] In a very tragic

[00:43:15] And somewhat abrupt opening scene

[00:43:17] Where some Russian gangsters

[00:43:18] I guess are trying to steal his clocks

[00:43:20] I don't know

[00:43:21] Like steal his telescope

[00:43:22] Random break in

[00:43:23] A bunch of mass thugs

[00:43:25] Yeah, South Scopes made a pure gold

[00:43:27] They want to steal it

[00:43:28] I don't think it's made of pure gold

[00:43:30] Good lord

[00:43:31] I think every inner working

[00:43:32] Every rivet is gold

[00:43:35] Anyway

[00:43:36] Even the instructions were printed on pure gold

[00:43:38] The mom is sad

[00:43:40] Flees to America

[00:43:41] Gives birth to Jupiter

[00:43:43] On like a barge

[00:43:45] And they now live in Chicago

[00:43:49] And they clean toilets

[00:43:50] They have a toilet business

[00:43:51] I mean they have a toilet cleaning business

[00:43:53] And sort of like a family flop house

[00:43:56] Yeah

[00:43:57] They live in a family flop

[00:43:58] They're not cleaning toilets

[00:43:59] She's got a bunch of

[00:44:01] Like cousins and siblings and shit

[00:44:03] Including Sparky from Speed Racer

[00:44:05] Our friends, Kit Gurrey

[00:44:07] And I forget who else is in there

[00:44:10] In the family I didn't recognize any other one

[00:44:11] You know there's like

[00:44:13] Apparently Aunt Nino is played by someone

[00:44:15] Called Frog Stone

[00:44:17] Well but of course

[00:44:21] She's got a large family

[00:44:23] They all live in one house

[00:44:24] They're all sort of cartoonish

[00:44:26] And like Kit Gurrey

[00:44:28] What's his name?

[00:44:29] Vladdy

[00:44:30] Yeah

[00:44:31] He's trying to get her to sell her eggs

[00:44:32] So he can buy a TV

[00:44:34] Like it's really sad

[00:44:36] The men all seem like sort of

[00:44:37] Backwards hustlers

[00:44:39] Right

[00:44:40] The men are all sort of gruff

[00:44:41] They don't

[00:44:42] The greatest

[00:44:43] I mean I assume the Wachowskis are

[00:44:46] Maybe Polish or Russian

[00:44:47] I mean Eastern European with a name like that

[00:44:49] I believe they're Polish

[00:44:50] I assume like maybe they have a little bit of their own

[00:44:53] Maybe a little bit of their own

[00:44:55] Family

[00:44:56] Or at least stories of the family

[00:44:58] In this very cartoonish

[00:45:01] Presentation of like an immigrant family

[00:45:03] Maybe

[00:45:04] Maybe they're just trying to stick it to the Wachowskis

[00:45:06] I don't know

[00:45:07] But anyway

[00:45:08] It's a little

[00:45:09] What if the Wachowskis are still like

[00:45:10] Cold War truthers

[00:45:11] They're like

[00:45:12] I don't know we shouldn't let our guard down

[00:45:14] Great

[00:45:15] They might

[00:45:17] But you know interestingly enough

[00:45:19] Is Mila Kunis I believe is from the Soviet Union

[00:45:22] She is a Russian

[00:45:23] I believe she's Ukrainian

[00:45:24] Yes

[00:45:25] Yeah maybe she's right

[00:45:26] She is of Eastern European extraction

[00:45:29] Speaks fluent Russian

[00:45:31] And so it's kind of fun

[00:45:33] That I think she's also Jewish

[00:45:35] Yeah she is

[00:45:36] But it's just nice mix of stuff

[00:45:37] Fun to give her this role

[00:45:39] Like it's actually appropriate to her background

[00:45:42] Yeah I liked it a lot

[00:45:43] All this is done in voiceover narration

[00:45:45] Which is pretty quickly dropped after that

[00:45:47] But she's like

[00:45:48] You wouldn't expect me to be cleaning a toilet

[00:45:51] Or I can't even remember

[00:45:52] Like look at me cleaning a toilet

[00:45:53] There I am

[00:45:54] Jupiter Jones

[00:45:55] But this is the thing I like about this movie

[00:45:56] I have no problem with this

[00:45:57] Right right and I can't argue that this film is perfect

[00:45:59] But like the vibe of this movie

[00:46:01] Wins me over so thoroughly

[00:46:03] That I'm willing to overlook its flaws

[00:46:04] Because I have such a good time watching it

[00:46:06] This movie feels like an adaptation of a book

[00:46:08] That never existed

[00:46:09] You know

[00:46:10] There's this energy to it

[00:46:11] Even to the narration where it feels like

[00:46:13] It doesn't feel as much like a

[00:46:15] You know people always talk about how

[00:46:17] Narration is sort of like voiceover

[00:46:18] It's like a sloppy screen-ranked device

[00:46:19] If you can't get the thing out visually

[00:46:21] Or through dialogue

[00:46:22] And then you know

[00:46:23] You're not doing your job

[00:46:24] Whatever fuck that

[00:46:25] Whatever who cares

[00:46:26] Sometimes it's a stylistic choice

[00:46:27] Sometimes you're trying to get a vibe out there

[00:46:28] Well sometimes you get

[00:46:29] It's a very like

[00:46:30] Ooh story time yeah

[00:46:31] And that feels to me like

[00:46:32] The voiceover narration at the beginning

[00:46:33] Feels like the first chapter of a book

[00:46:35] And setting up this sort of like

[00:46:36] Cinderella complex

[00:46:37] Of like she's the one that no one notices

[00:46:39] She's under the stairs

[00:46:40] She's grabbing the toilet

[00:46:41] You know

[00:46:42] I mean it's a classic story

[00:46:43] Because someone's about to

[00:46:44] Drop out of the sky and say like

[00:46:46] You don't know it but you're a really special person

[00:46:48] And you're magical

[00:46:49] And like we're gonna go on a crazy adventure

[00:46:51] And all those fairy tales that we're talking about

[00:46:53] All the girls from like 14 years old

[00:46:55] That's not weird that we never think about

[00:46:57] Is they're all supposed to be like very very young

[00:46:59] I think most of those writers were pedophiles

[00:47:01] No I think it's just also because these stories

[00:47:03] Are from a time when you were gonna be

[00:47:05] Dead when you were 35

[00:47:06] Right they were middle aged

[00:47:07] You gotta get going

[00:47:08] Yeah 13 year olds were middle aged

[00:47:10] They were buying the Ferrari

[00:47:12] They had the 401k in place

[00:47:15] But Mila Cunis is as an actress

[00:47:17] She's very tiny

[00:47:19] She's got these sort of big big giant baby eyes

[00:47:22] Yeah she's pretty pretty

[00:47:23] And she's got a very high pitched voice

[00:47:24] Like there's something very childlike to her

[00:47:26] Sure

[00:47:27] A natley and sort of an energy that makes you sort of

[00:47:30] Worried about her

[00:47:32] I get you

[00:47:33] In any given scene she's very sympathetic

[00:47:34] Well also you're like what

[00:47:35] She's gotta sell her eggs for a TV

[00:47:37] Yeah you feel bad

[00:47:38] But there's a metaphor there

[00:47:39] I assume for the larger story that unfolds

[00:47:41] Where we are all being harvested for you know

[00:47:44] I believe so

[00:47:45] Consumerism

[00:47:46] But there's a feeling in these

[00:47:47] The opening section that's very cartoonist

[00:47:49] That's very over the top is like they're the

[00:47:50] They're the wicked stepsisters

[00:47:52] This is like the family

[00:47:53] This is the heightened sort of like

[00:47:55] The humble beginnings

[00:47:56] Here's what happens while this is all playing out

[00:47:59] Cut to

[00:48:00] Fucking

[00:48:01] I don't know a planet that has been a race

[00:48:03] Of life

[00:48:04] In an alien galaxy

[00:48:06] Cut to my wildest dreams

[00:48:08] A character called khalik played by

[00:48:10] Tupence Middleton who is more

[00:48:12] Her name is more absurd than her character

[00:48:14] Yeah they should have flipped those two

[00:48:16] It should have been Tupence Middleton played by khalik

[00:48:18] And a guy called Titus who's played by

[00:48:20] Douglas Booth

[00:48:21] Uh huh

[00:48:22] Who's a young English actor who's kind of just

[00:48:24] Pretty

[00:48:25] It's a dream boat yeah

[00:48:26] And khalik is kinda looks old

[00:48:28] Yeah she's pretty run down

[00:48:30] And well she looks like a young person

[00:48:32] Old person make that

[00:48:33] She does

[00:48:34] You can tell it's a young actress

[00:48:35] Yes you can

[00:48:36] But they try

[00:48:37] She's wrinkly

[00:48:38] And a simpering

[00:48:40] How do you describe Eddie Redmayne's performance

[00:48:42] As Baalem

[00:48:43] I would describe it as the best of 2015

[00:48:46] It's crazy it's so crazy

[00:48:48] He was honestly right outside my best supporting actor

[00:48:50] He's whispering this thing but he's whispering

[00:48:52] Every single word

[00:48:54] And also all of his dialogue is done in close ups

[00:48:57] And he's always like tearing up but not actually crying

[00:48:59] His eyes I swear to god it's like

[00:49:01] They're shooting hoses right at them before

[00:49:03] Like and then they like take the hoses out

[00:49:04] And they're like roll camera like you know like

[00:49:06] That quickly

[00:49:07] Do you want my honest theory?

[00:49:08] Yeah

[00:49:09] That right up until they called action

[00:49:11] They had someone holding one of the big lights

[00:49:13] Right like melting in space

[00:49:15] Like right in front of his eyes yeah

[00:49:17] He looks crazy

[00:49:18] Yeah

[00:49:19] It's a great

[00:49:20] I think it's a straight up great performance

[00:49:22] He won the golden raspberry for worst supporting actor

[00:49:24] Which is bullshit

[00:49:25] Yeah but you know that's how these things go

[00:49:27] And because he has

[00:49:29] He kinda has the same

[00:49:31] Diction and speech style

[00:49:33] As my high school physics teacher

[00:49:35] Mr. Jones

[00:49:36] Which is basically like quiet

[00:49:38] Quiet quiet you know like

[00:49:39] Yeah

[00:49:40] You know like where you have to kinda hang on his words

[00:49:42] Cause he's really quiet

[00:49:43] And then out of nowhere he'll just be like

[00:49:45] I said no

[00:49:47] Like he'll just shout and you're just like

[00:49:48] Whoa whoa okay okay okay

[00:49:50] You know like just to jaunt you back up in your seat

[00:49:52] Yeah here's what I don't get about

[00:49:53] The reaction to this performance okay

[00:49:55] If you just

[00:49:56] I created life

[00:49:57] If you don't like this movie

[00:49:59] If you're not buying an in

[00:50:00] You're gonna find the whole thing

[00:50:02] And just too fucking goofy to tolerate right

[00:50:04] And I could see you like

[00:50:05] And like in the middle

[00:50:06] What I'm saying is in the middle of all the

[00:50:08] Middle Acunus origins stuff

[00:50:09] They just sort of slip this scene in

[00:50:10] Very quick

[00:50:11] They ask you

[00:50:12] When they're talking about like house of Braxess

[00:50:13] And like while I own the deed to earth

[00:50:15] And you're like who are these people

[00:50:17] What are they talking about

[00:50:18] Yeah it's three siblings who look nothing

[00:50:20] Alike of very different ages

[00:50:22] Who behave totally differently

[00:50:24] All on an abandoned planet

[00:50:26] Like city with like space cars

[00:50:29] But they're talking like

[00:50:30] They're from Downton Abbey

[00:50:32] Right

[00:50:33] And they it's

[00:50:34] It's lunacy

[00:50:35] And they're like talking about like property

[00:50:36] It's also the same move they pulled with the matrix

[00:50:38] Where it's just like the matrix begins

[00:50:40] With all this gobbledygook

[00:50:41] And then gets you to

[00:50:43] And then it catches you up

[00:50:44] But like

[00:50:45] This flips it

[00:50:46] They give you like ten minutes of Jupiter doing stuff

[00:50:47] And then they give you the scene

[00:50:48] That's just like crazy banana balls

[00:50:49] And it's the same basic idea where they're like

[00:50:50] Don't worry about it

[00:50:51] We're just laying a groundwork

[00:50:53] Don't worry about it

[00:50:54] But here's my question for people who

[00:50:55] Who don't like Eddie Redmayne's performance

[00:50:57] This movie

[00:50:58] What do you think he should have done?

[00:51:00] I agree

[00:51:01] Like he's totally in sync with what the film is doing

[00:51:03] He's the perfect villain for the tone

[00:51:05] I agree

[00:51:06] The sort of visuals of this film

[00:51:08] Here's my complaint

[00:51:09] Everyone else needs to be at that level

[00:51:11] I agree 100%

[00:51:12] I think he's the most calibrated actor in the entire film

[00:51:14] I think that's why he gets shift for the performance

[00:51:16] Because everyone else is basically giving

[00:51:18] A 2014-2015 performance

[00:51:21] Yeah

[00:51:22] And he's giving a great like old fashioned

[00:51:25] Big villain performance

[00:51:27] Like a movie from the 50s

[00:51:29] Or even the 80s

[00:51:30] This movie really feels like to me

[00:51:32] Like a sort of dark crystal type

[00:51:34] Like wacky, like Muppet-y movie

[00:51:36] To me it feels like that

[00:51:38] Combined with like 40's adventure serials

[00:51:41] That sort of propulsive plotting

[00:51:43] Combined with the sort of old British fairy tales

[00:51:46] And the Frank Baum books

[00:51:49] And all that sort of stuff

[00:51:51] I think those are sort of the three major ingredients

[00:51:55] But yeah, they talk about this d-tax

[00:51:57] Eddie Redmayne immediately gets an Oscar from me

[00:52:00] And then we cut back to Jupiter

[00:52:02] Upe

[00:52:03] But our family calls her Jupiter

[00:52:05] Because they're Russian

[00:52:06] It's a soft J

[00:52:08] And

[00:52:10] Yeah, and basically to just move things along

[00:52:13] She has an appointment with the doctor

[00:52:15] There's some like, you know, flim-flam

[00:52:17] Where she has like a rich client

[00:52:19] Whose name she borrows

[00:52:20] But like it's absolutely of no-

[00:52:21] Well, but that seems important

[00:52:22] Because, no, because she sees the aliens

[00:52:25] She's with a rich client

[00:52:26] She's watching a good dress

[00:52:27] She's talking about the part she has to go to

[00:52:29] Just to lay it out

[00:52:30] She, Jupiter is using this rich client's name

[00:52:33] At the doctor's office for whatever reason

[00:52:35] Celerex

[00:52:36] Her genetic imprint

[00:52:39] Like tripped some galactic, you know

[00:52:41] Space algorithm

[00:52:43] Yeah

[00:52:44] And so a bunch of little green men

[00:52:46] They've been looking for her

[00:52:47] Have gone and so they go to the other girl

[00:52:49] You know, to the girl whose name she borrowed

[00:52:51] Who's played by fucking Vanessa Kirby, I think

[00:52:54] Oh, really? Okay

[00:52:55] Yeah

[00:52:56] And they like mess with her

[00:52:58] And so we see some little green men

[00:53:00] They look really good

[00:53:01] They look pretty good

[00:53:02] They're really well animated

[00:53:03] I mean, I think what the Wachowskis are trying to do here

[00:53:05] Which they also messed with the Matrix

[00:53:07] They do this with the Matrix some

[00:53:08] Which is like they're trying to just

[00:53:10] Make this whole cloth sci-fi story

[00:53:14] That explains things

[00:53:16] Yeah

[00:53:17] In our world

[00:53:18] So it's like, oh people have been seeing

[00:53:20] Like little green men

[00:53:21] That's these weird little guys who come

[00:53:23] And like mess with reality when they need to kill someone

[00:53:25] Or kidnap someone

[00:53:26] Yeah, they're like

[00:53:27] They can go invisible

[00:53:28] They can wipe memories

[00:53:29] And they mostly erase people's memories

[00:53:31] But there's a few spares

[00:53:32] But who cares because they just seem like

[00:53:34] Crazy people

[00:53:35] Yeah

[00:53:36] Stuff like that

[00:53:37] And like, oh you think we're all like

[00:53:38] Created like ancient alien style

[00:53:40] Yeah, we are

[00:53:41] Like, you know, like a lot of stuff

[00:53:42] Where it's just like trying to explain myths

[00:53:44] That already exist

[00:53:45] But, uh, Jupiter's like in the bathroom

[00:53:47] When they come and start fucking with this girl

[00:53:49] She walks back out and she sees the woman levitating

[00:53:51] Yeah, and she like takes a picture

[00:53:53] She takes a picture and they wipe her memory

[00:53:55] Couple days later, next day, whatever

[00:53:57] She goes to

[00:53:58] To donate her eggs

[00:53:59] To have her eggs harvested

[00:54:00] Yes, and under this fake name

[00:54:02] Catherine Dunleavy

[00:54:03] And they're like, oh Miss Dunleavy

[00:54:06] And then when she gets under

[00:54:07] And she's on the table

[00:54:08] They start saying creepy stuff

[00:54:09] Yeah, I like this scene

[00:54:11] It's cool because like

[00:54:12] They throw in some little flashes

[00:54:14] Of the people's faces

[00:54:15] Changing into like the grey alien type of face

[00:54:17] They're like grey almond-eyed aliens

[00:54:19] With skinny limbs

[00:54:20] Yeah, it's like just your classic alien

[00:54:21] The headed alien

[00:54:22] Yeah

[00:54:23] And, uh, you know

[00:54:24] Oh, it all seems like it's about to go

[00:54:25] They're gonna fucking kill her or something

[00:54:27] This is one problem I have with the plot of the movie

[00:54:29] Is it seems like they're just there to kill her

[00:54:31] Yes

[00:54:32] They're like just making sure she is who she is

[00:54:34] Genetically testing her

[00:54:35] And they're like, yep, it's her

[00:54:36] Ding

[00:54:37] And they're about to kill her

[00:54:38] And then

[00:54:39] A dog man

[00:54:41] Purses into the room

[00:54:42] With a laser shield strapped to one arm

[00:54:44] And a gun and he kills them all

[00:54:45] And he rescues her

[00:54:46] And he has roller skates that make him fly

[00:54:48] And his name is

[00:54:49] His name is

[00:54:50] Cain Wise

[00:54:52] He's a playboy Cain and Tatum

[00:54:54] Hell yeah, he is

[00:54:57] Um

[00:54:58] Cain

[00:54:59] What do you think about this, Ben?

[00:55:01] About this scene or about the character

[00:55:03] The character of Cain Wise

[00:55:05] I mean

[00:55:06] A like-a-tant or something

[00:55:07] Well, Cain and Tatum is like a good-looking man

[00:55:09] Agreed

[00:55:10] And they made him just look like this weird dog boy

[00:55:13] Agreed

[00:55:14] I just

[00:55:15] I feel like you could have just told me

[00:55:17] Okay, he's half-man, half-wolf

[00:55:19] And then not added the pointy ears

[00:55:21] And the weird face

[00:55:22] And I'd be like on board still

[00:55:23] Not only that

[00:55:24] But he is wearing a crazy

[00:55:26] Draw-changing thing

[00:55:29] To like make his jaw look different

[00:55:31] Which apparently meant that he couldn't even close his mouth

[00:55:34] And can barely speak his lines

[00:55:36] Like I think it really hurt his performance

[00:55:38] Also, did they add freckles to his body?

[00:55:40] No, I think those are there

[00:55:41] I think that's his unsuked body

[00:55:43] He just needed some makeup on that

[00:55:44] In the shortlist scenes, he's got a ton of shoulder freckles

[00:55:47] Yeah

[00:55:48] I think he was a Miami Beach boy or something

[00:55:51] It spans time

[00:55:53] See, I love that

[00:55:55] And I don't know if it's just me being perverse

[00:55:57] But I love the fact that they got this guy

[00:55:59] Who is like America's favorite hunk

[00:56:01] At that moment, he was unquestionably the hunk de jour

[00:56:05] At the moment they cast him in this film

[00:56:07] He was coming off his crazy...

[00:56:09] What was it? 2013?

[00:56:11] The role header of Magic Mike

[00:56:13] 21, John...

[00:56:14] The Vow...

[00:56:15] Or he had four films

[00:56:16] It was Magic Mike, The Vow, 21 Jump Street

[00:56:19] And G.I. Joe Retaliation

[00:56:21] Which he's barely

[00:56:23] But they sold hard on his ass

[00:56:25] They just cranked him into that because he was hot

[00:56:27] Now 21 Jump is 2012

[00:56:29] 2013, he was in Side Effects, G.I. Joe

[00:56:31] He's in This Is The End for a Second

[00:56:33] White House Down

[00:56:35] Great Movie, not a big hit

[00:56:37] Don John, that's his 2013

[00:56:39] So 2012 was the year I was talking about

[00:56:41] 2012 has The Vow that has Hey Wire

[00:56:43] And it has Magic Mike

[00:56:44] Right, and 21 Jump Street

[00:56:47] He was coming off of the

[00:56:49] 2014 year of

[00:56:51] Foxcatcher 22 Jump Book of Life

[00:56:54] Yeah, but remember the film was supposed to come out before that

[00:56:56] Wait a minute, Foxcatcher came out

[00:56:59] Foxcatcher came out, yeah

[00:57:00] Into 2014

[00:57:01] But my point is, uh, Duke was supposed to come out

[00:57:04] Summer 2014, which means, you know

[00:57:06] It was in 2013

[00:57:07] He was hot shit

[00:57:08] And you're saying you like that they make him look like a fucking weirdo

[00:57:11] I think I agree with you

[00:57:12] But he's still supposed to be

[00:57:14] Like it's not like making Steve Carell in

[00:57:16] Foxcatcher look like a creepo

[00:57:18] Like they're like, we're hiring the sex symbol

[00:57:20] He's still supposed to be the sex symbol of the movie

[00:57:22] And we're gonna make him look weird

[00:57:24] I basically agree with you

[00:57:26] I basically agree with you

[00:57:28] My problem with him comes a little late

[00:57:31] And no collar?

[00:57:37] You should put in the finger-drift

[00:57:39] I love that finger-drift, by the way

[00:57:41] The finger-drift was so good

[00:57:42] Okay, I'll add it there

[00:57:44] I do think

[00:57:47] What you said about the jaw thing making it difficult for him to say his lines

[00:57:50] Makes a lot of sense with those performance

[00:57:52] Because it's a very quiet performance

[00:57:53] It's a quiet performance

[00:57:54] It should be really...

[00:57:55] Here's my problem with the performance

[00:57:57] It's kind of mumbled, yeah

[00:57:58] Uh, is that later on in the film

[00:58:01] Not much later on

[00:58:02] Because basically he collects Jupiter

[00:58:04] And they have this crazy chase scene through Chicago

[00:58:06] Which I love

[00:58:07] Which I think is good

[00:58:09] I mean, I wish I loved it

[00:58:11] I like it, it's good

[00:58:12] You've also got like Duna Bay

[00:58:14] And a couple other people

[00:58:15] Our friends from Cloudy Atlas

[00:58:16] Yeah

[00:58:17] Who are these people who are also like hunting her

[00:58:20] Yeah

[00:58:21] There's a lot of like business

[00:58:22] There's these dragon people

[00:58:24] Oh my god

[00:58:25] Oh my god, the dragon people

[00:58:26] They're great, love them

[00:58:27] They're just some people or dragons

[00:58:29] I mean, Balem has some bodyguards

[00:58:32] And they're dragons

[00:58:33] But also some of them just seem like to be like

[00:58:35] Some of them are just dragons

[00:58:36] This movie's hard to keep track of

[00:58:38] Because it just starts cutting to

[00:58:39] It's like cut to Jupiter

[00:58:41] In the giant red spot

[00:58:42] Balem has a mining thing

[00:58:45] And he's sitting in his office

[00:58:47] Talking to a little man called Mr. Knight

[00:58:49] And four dragons

[00:58:50] Mr. Knight's like a mouse dude

[00:58:52] Yeah, Mr. Knight's like

[00:58:54] Oh, I'm sorry sir

[00:58:55] Do it, yeah, do it

[00:58:56] Do wish to attend

[00:58:57] You know, that matters of evil

[00:58:58] Do require some paperwork

[00:59:00] He's from like a live action window

[00:59:02] In the Willows adaptation

[00:59:04] Yeah, he's from like the BBC's

[00:59:06] Lion Witch in the Water

[00:59:08] He's played by Edward Hogg

[00:59:10] The great Edward Hogg

[00:59:12] And so like we've got that

[00:59:14] And like there's a scene where Balem is just like

[00:59:16] I must have the girl

[00:59:18] No, never mind

[00:59:20] David's physical impression was so good right now

[00:59:23] I just want the listener home to know

[00:59:25] He's adding it to his mad TV reel

[00:59:27] Along with Agent Smith

[00:59:29] And so I feel like this is

[00:59:31] Like with many of Wachowski movie

[00:59:33] Where people are either like

[00:59:35] Oh forget this, what the hell's going on

[00:59:37] Or they're like, you know there's then

[00:59:39] There's the fraction that are like

[00:59:40] Oh I like more of this please

[00:59:42] Like cut to another thing

[00:59:44] Is there Terry Gilliam perhaps

[00:59:46] In a clockwork like tax shop

[00:59:48] Can I bring up my complaint with Terry Gilliam

[00:59:50] In this movie

[00:59:51] So you have this film that's like so

[00:59:53] Designy right, so art directed

[00:59:55] Everyone's got this crazy makeup

[00:59:57] And the hair, like Duna Bate has

[00:59:59] What is clearly Lana Wachowski's hair

[01:00:01] It's massive, but it's even bigger

[01:00:03] This massive purple dreadlock

[01:00:05] Sea style wig

[01:00:07] Pig tails on either side

[01:00:09] Yeah, it looks like Lana's hair

[01:00:11] But everyone's got all this

[01:00:13] Or designy elements right

[01:00:15] Even Jupiter like

[01:00:17] Who is the guy who's the partner of her

[01:00:19] Who's like black and then

[01:00:21] He's like a black man who has been painted

[01:00:23] Like jet black and he has like black

[01:00:25] On his color and then his facial hair

[01:00:27] Is feathers, like he's got a feather goatee

[01:00:29] Love that guy, he doesn't do anything about

[01:00:31] Great design

[01:00:33] And I love how Duna Bate's

[01:00:35] Like little speeder bike has another gun

[01:00:37] That's just floating next to it

[01:00:39] It's not attached

[01:00:41] And I love that Channing Tatum's shield

[01:00:43] Is not explained, he just sort of has

[01:00:45] Like a force field like on one arm

[01:00:47] Yeah, I kind of think this movie could do

[01:00:49] With explaining less because I think

[01:00:51] The things they don't explain and just show you

[01:00:53] You just get, you accept

[01:00:55] No the biggest problem, and that's my

[01:00:57] Let me get to my complaint, unless you wanted

[01:00:59] To say something specific about Terry Gilliam

[01:01:01] Yeah I was just going to say, I mean we could

[01:01:03] Also wait until we get to the scene but

[01:01:05] You have all these characters that are so designed

[01:01:07] And then Terry Gilliam shows up

[01:01:09] And it's like they didn't even put him through hair and makeup

[01:01:11] He just showed up as is and they put him in front of camera

[01:01:13] That's very funny

[01:01:15] Terry Gilliam looks like a maniac in this movie

[01:01:17] And it's really, I mean there's this

[01:01:19] Scene we'll get to it that's very obviously

[01:01:21] I think an homage to Brazil

[01:01:23] 100%

[01:01:25] Anyway we'll get to it, but here's my problem

[01:01:27] And it's about telling and not showing

[01:01:29] Is

[01:01:31] Sailor Bob, what's his name?

[01:01:33] Cain Wise

[01:01:35] Wisks, Jupiter Away

[01:01:37] He rescues her, there's a bunch of action scenes

[01:01:39] Through like the skies of Chicago

[01:01:41] He's got this like force field

[01:01:43] Skatey thing, he goes to his pals house

[01:01:45] Out in the boondocks

[01:01:47] And his pals played by Sean B

[01:01:49] And he plays Stinger

[01:01:51] Stinger Apni

[01:01:53] Who is a bee man?

[01:01:55] He likes those bees

[01:01:57] He's a bee man

[01:01:59] Some guys are butt man

[01:02:01] No, no he's a bee man

[01:02:03] Some guys are wolf man

[01:02:05] Anyway, he gives this speech to Jupiter

[01:02:07] While we're

[01:02:09] Cross cutting with like

[01:02:11] Cain getting his weapons

[01:02:13] Out and cocking them all

[01:02:15] He was the run to the litter

[01:02:17] But some of them turn out

[01:02:19] To be like sold

[01:02:21] To be like good being

[01:02:23] Or else you're like fearless

[01:02:25] He's basically telling us

[01:02:27] This guy's crazy

[01:02:29] This guy survived being the run of some kind of

[01:02:31] Mutant wolf man

[01:02:33] Litter, he survived being sold

[01:02:35] Into slavery and now he's

[01:02:37] Like this renegade, crazy

[01:02:39] Bounty hunter, he's a wolf man

[01:02:41] He's a wild card

[01:02:43] You don't get any of that from Tatum

[01:02:45] You don't get any of it

[01:02:47] I wish it was there

[01:02:49] Here's what he really could have used

[01:02:51] He could have used some like

[01:02:53] Lethal weapon, melt gibbs and kind of energy

[01:02:55] Or a grito scene

[01:02:57] Give him a grito scene early on

[01:02:59] Where he shoots grito

[01:03:01] Which is crucial for Han Solo

[01:03:03] Where we're like this guy's just bragging about his ship

[01:03:05] Who is this guy and then he like executes a green alien

[01:03:07] And you're like great, great, okay

[01:03:09] Okay, don't mess with this guy

[01:03:11] I just think he needed a guy, you know, Chang Tatum

[01:03:13] I like a lot as an actor

[01:03:15] I enjoy Chang Tatum a lot

[01:03:17] Although I think he's better when he's being sincere

[01:03:19] I agree, that's what I was going to say

[01:03:21] I think he doesn't have a hard edge, you know

[01:03:23] Every movie star

[01:03:25] Not every actor, but every movie star

[01:03:27] Like, Capital on Movie Star has some sort of inherent quality

[01:03:30] That makes them a star

[01:03:32] There's a thing that they are able to project

[01:03:34] That you can't punch out of them

[01:03:36] That is what people respond to, right?

[01:03:38] Sure

[01:03:39] And I read some critic once

[01:03:41] It was kind of mean, but she said

[01:03:43] Or it wasn't even a critic, it was like an anonymous studio exec

[01:03:45] Talking about when Chang Tatum was having this killer year

[01:03:47] And it was like Hollywood reporter like

[01:03:49] What makes Chang Tatum? Why are people connecting them so hard right now?

[01:03:52] And she said there's this thing with him

[01:03:54] He's very handsome, but there's something about him that looks a little slow

[01:03:58] You know, he looks like a doofus

[01:04:00] Right, he looks a little doofus, but he's so sincere

[01:04:03] He's got like sticky out of his ears

[01:04:05] He looks like he has like fetal alcohol

[01:04:07] And he's got little eyes

[01:04:09] He's very handsome, but almost in spite of his looks

[01:04:11] I mean, he's a cutie pie, yeah, totally

[01:04:13] And after he looks so simian, like it's not hard just with a little makeup

[01:04:17] To kind of push him into looking like basically like

[01:04:19] Oh no, he's proto human

[01:04:21] Right, and this executive, this anonymous executive said

[01:04:23] The thing about him is he looks a little slow

[01:04:26] And the audience roots for him because they're like

[01:04:28] This guy's trying really hard

[01:04:30] And I can tell how tough it is for him to do anything

[01:04:32] And all his best roles are that

[01:04:34] It's like he's a really sincere guy

[01:04:36] Who's trying to get people to take him seriously

[01:04:39] To look at him in a different way

[01:04:41] to fall back in love with him.

[01:04:42] Trying to pull off the undercover cop.

[01:04:44] Or in Magic Mike, I feel like where he's like the guy's like,

[01:04:47] oh, I wanna have a furniture business.

[01:04:49] And anyone else you'd be like, oh, this guy's so washed up.

[01:04:52] But with Channington, he'll be like, okay,

[01:04:54] he'll pull it off.

[01:04:55] Bestie in the movie is the one with Betsy Brandt

[01:04:57] when he goes to try to get the loan.

[01:04:59] And she's really condescending to him

[01:05:01] and he's trying to get her to take him seriously.

[01:05:03] And she just won't, you know?

[01:05:05] That's the interesting dynamic with him.

[01:05:07] With this film needed with something like Tom Hardy

[01:05:09] where you watch Tom Hardy and you're like,

[01:05:10] this guy-

[01:05:11] He's a mania.

[01:05:12] He's a mania.

[01:05:13] Even when Tom Hardy's playing a nice guy.

[01:05:14] No, no, Tom Hardy is a good call.

[01:05:16] Would've killed him.

[01:05:17] I mean, obviously Tom Hardy,

[01:05:18] we're thinking of Mad Max when we say this,

[01:05:20] but he's a good call.

[01:05:21] Yes.

[01:05:22] But I mean, I admire what they're trying to do.

[01:05:24] They've got a movie star, they think on their hands

[01:05:26] and they wanna make him this lovable rogue.

[01:05:29] But they just-

[01:05:30] He's also, I mean, look,

[01:05:31] Channington was able to express a lot physically.

[01:05:34] He's a very physical actor.

[01:05:35] This is a man of very few words.

[01:05:37] And he does the action scenes beautifully.

[01:05:39] And one thing I really like about this film

[01:05:41] is you can tell there's very little, ironically,

[01:05:43] after they sort of were the ones who created this wave

[01:05:47] with The Matrix Reloaded,

[01:05:49] the sort of CGI rag doll stunt body thing.

[01:05:52] You know?

[01:05:53] You can tell that all the scenes where Kane

[01:05:55] is laser rollerblading around.

[01:05:58] That he's on wires and either they were hanging him

[01:06:01] from a helicopter.

[01:06:02] They built this crazy rig, I think, yeah.

[01:06:04] Even when they were compositing,

[01:06:05] when it's him in front of a green screen.

[01:06:06] And you could tell in certain shots

[01:06:07] he's literally on set being hung up, right?

[01:06:10] But even the green screen sort of composite shots,

[01:06:13] you can tell he's actually doing the physical action.

[01:06:15] I noticed like three shots in the entire film

[01:06:17] where it looked like they were using a CGI double.

[01:06:20] And he was a really good casting choice in that sense.

[01:06:23] He was a bad casting choice

[01:06:24] in that you need someone with five to 10%

[01:06:28] simmering craziness under the surface.

[01:06:30] Yeah, I think that's a problem.

[01:06:31] You know?

[01:06:32] I think you needed either one scene

[01:06:34] to show that in the script

[01:06:36] and or just someone who perpetually has a little bit

[01:06:39] of that spice under their skin.

[01:06:42] You know?

[01:06:43] Yep.

[01:06:44] But I mean, I think he's nice at this movie.

[01:06:47] Yeah, I think he's fine.

[01:06:48] He's a nice boy.

[01:06:49] But his character basically boils down to

[01:06:51] he like bursts into the action

[01:06:54] like the Kool-Aid man over and over and over again.

[01:06:57] It's like shit's about to go down.

[01:06:59] Uh oh, and then he shows up and he's like,

[01:07:00] no, Jupiter!

[01:07:02] And grabs her and they like skate away.

[01:07:04] There's a lot of rescuing in this film.

[01:07:05] This is a lot of rescuing.

[01:07:08] Heavy film.

[01:07:10] He gives her the quick speech that's like,

[01:07:12] I know we're jumping back a little bit.

[01:07:14] He gives her a quick speech

[01:07:15] where he tries to explain everything.

[01:07:16] I think this scene is actually kind of well done because-

[01:07:20] When they were at like the top of the Sears Tower

[01:07:21] or whatever?

[01:07:22] Yeah.

[01:07:23] I think it's kind of well written

[01:07:24] because he keeps on like saying these crazy terms

[01:07:27] and then realizing she has no idea

[01:07:28] what he's talking about.

[01:07:30] And he'll say like, they're watchers.

[01:07:31] They're like people who come by

[01:07:34] to make sure everything's working.

[01:07:35] You know?

[01:07:36] Which is like, if you're gonna-

[01:07:37] Because we've talked a lot about how these movies

[01:07:38] get bogged down when there's too much lingo.

[01:07:40] You need a whole sort of fucking dictionary

[01:07:42] to understand the vocabulary of these worlds, right?

[01:07:46] This scene at least is him sort of going like,

[01:07:48] here's what they're called

[01:07:49] but it doesn't really fucking matter.

[01:07:50] No, he does a lot of that.

[01:07:50] You need to know.

[01:07:51] This guy's trying to get you.

[01:07:52] These guys work for him.

[01:07:54] Here's who you are.

[01:07:55] Right?

[01:07:56] And I think that scene sets it up pretty well.

[01:07:58] I think he's kind of,

[01:08:00] he doesn't seem crazy in that scene

[01:08:02] but he seems really wounded and lonely.

[01:08:04] I think he gets that across very well in that scene.

[01:08:07] And then there's this, you know,

[01:08:09] there's a big chase.

[01:08:10] Then he takes her to Sean Bean's house.

[01:08:13] Right, with the bees.

[01:08:14] And the Wachowskis have devised a shorthand

[01:08:17] to lock Sean Bean's character in

[01:08:20] to like recognizing that this woman is royalty

[01:08:23] even if she doesn't know it.

[01:08:25] Cause he hates Channing Tatum.

[01:08:26] He doesn't like Channing Tatum, I forget why.

[01:08:28] When they first show up,

[01:08:29] they fucking punch a bunch.

[01:08:30] Yeah, why don't they like each other?

[01:08:32] Because Channing Tatum has an innate distrust of royalty.

[01:08:36] Like an instinctual dog-like distrust of royalty, right?

[01:08:40] And so he tore out fucking Eddie Redmayne's throat

[01:08:46] which is why Eddie Redmayne sounds like that.

[01:08:49] See I've tracked almost all of this woman.

[01:08:50] Yeah, no, no, no, no.

[01:08:51] Tell me, tell me.

[01:08:52] He clawed it.

[01:08:53] This is all delivered in exposition

[01:08:55] and it's very quickly.

[01:08:56] It's tough to take retain.

[01:08:57] They go through it real fast.

[01:08:59] He doesn't like royalty.

[01:09:01] He smelled that he was a rat

[01:09:02] which he was correct about, right?

[01:09:04] He clawed Eddie Redmayne's throat.

[01:09:05] They were going to put him down.

[01:09:08] They were gonna euthanize him like a dog.

[01:09:12] And Sean Bean who was his leader and like his trainer,

[01:09:16] he was the leader of the squad,

[01:09:18] said it's my fault I trained him badly.

[01:09:20] I should take the hit.

[01:09:22] And so rather than kill Channing Tatum,

[01:09:25] they clipped both of their wings.

[01:09:27] They both had wings.

[01:09:28] And then like kicked him out of the sort of royal arm.

[01:09:31] So that's why they're mad at each other.

[01:09:33] Anyway, so Channing Tatum is the sort of rogue agent

[01:09:36] and Sean Bean just moved to a house on the farm

[01:09:38] with a bunch of bees and his daughter.

[01:09:39] And his daughter, yeah.

[01:09:39] And anyway, so they're having a little bit of a scrap

[01:09:41] and he's like you never should have come back here

[01:09:43] and then oh what happens?

[01:09:44] A hundred thousand bees gather around Mila Kunis

[01:09:46] and she starts directing them with her hands up and down.

[01:09:49] And Sean Bean delivers the lines bees.

[01:09:51] Like having an eight, I can't,

[01:09:53] bees always recognize royalty or...

[01:09:55] Well before he says anything, he takes a knee

[01:09:58] and bow to her.

[01:09:59] He says you're a majesty.

[01:10:00] And she says what do you mean you're a majesty?

[01:10:01] And he goes the bees they always recognize royalty

[01:10:03] because she said what's going on.

[01:10:03] So I feel like this is where if you haven't dropped out before

[01:10:07] you're just like, just fuck that, right?

[01:10:10] You know, like a lot of the audience laughs derisively.

[01:10:13] I love it.

[01:10:13] I do too.

[01:10:14] And I think that's people who are viewing this

[01:10:15] like it's a sci-fi movie, you know?

[01:10:18] Yeah.

[01:10:18] As opposed to like the Wizard of Oz where of like

[01:10:20] if that happened at Wizard of Oz

[01:10:21] you'd be like yeah that's fine.

[01:10:22] They're bees they sense royalty.

[01:10:23] The bees will be like I mean,

[01:10:24] I think it's also like it's such a cheap cute idea

[01:10:27] where it's like, because there's a queen bee.

[01:10:29] Like you know, like that basically is the idea

[01:10:31] but I like it.

[01:10:32] I think it's funny.

[01:10:33] It's a cute movie.

[01:10:34] It's trying to be cute.

[01:10:35] Yeah, I like it.

[01:10:36] I do too.

[01:10:36] So anyway, Sean Bean's like cool,

[01:10:39] you're the princess or whatever and nice to see you.

[01:10:43] You may not understand it

[01:10:44] but basically your genes have just reoccurred.

[01:10:46] I don't think even,

[01:10:47] I think Tuppence Middleton explains that part.

[01:10:48] Kind of Cloud Atlas-y.

[01:10:50] They say that like genetically

[01:10:52] it's not just like your spirit repeats

[01:10:55] but genetically your material when you die.

[01:10:58] It's just like life happens so long

[01:11:00] that eventually there's just gonna be

[01:11:01] an exact reoccurrence of the exact same genes

[01:11:04] is the idea every 100,000 years or whatever.

[01:11:07] And so you're just the same person

[01:11:09] that this old person was.

[01:11:10] Who was the mother of the three siblings we met.

[01:11:13] Right, Raxus family.

[01:11:15] Sean Bean offers up a lot of exposition.

[01:11:17] There's a moment I love where he's like

[01:11:18] let me explain to you how things work.

[01:11:19] Oh yeah, he tries to get the screen working.

[01:11:22] He takes like a future book out of his bookshelf

[01:11:25] and it has like a little VR sort of 3D projection thing.

[01:11:29] This is so good.

[01:11:30] But it shorts out, yeah.

[01:11:32] It's like he's trying to play an old timey newsreel.

[01:11:34] It's like the scene in the mystery film

[01:11:35] where they show him like, yeah.

[01:11:37] But also Ori's trying to do something

[01:11:38] that fucking so many movies do.

[01:11:40] Yeah.

[01:11:41] Like fucking,

[01:11:44] the Star Wars movie even does it.

[01:11:45] Any just holograph pops up.

[01:11:47] The Avengers movies do it all the time

[01:11:49] where it's like here's Count Bulo over here

[01:11:53] and it just shorts out.

[01:11:55] And he's like fucking budget cuts or whatever.

[01:11:57] The energy with which they set it up is like

[01:11:59] can I show you something?

[01:12:00] And it's like the scene where the next shot is

[01:12:02] they turn the lights on in the projection room

[01:12:04] and they have something laced up

[01:12:06] and they show him a newsreel

[01:12:07] that explains the entire backstory

[01:12:08] of the bad guy or whatever, right?

[01:12:10] And with this it's like he's got this

[01:12:11] wonky piece of technology

[01:12:13] that looks like something from the future

[01:12:14] but in his time it's like

[01:12:16] this is fucking 80 years old.

[01:12:17] It barely works.

[01:12:18] He hits it on his knee.

[01:12:19] It's short circuits.

[01:12:20] He says that too.

[01:12:22] He says that like,

[01:12:25] because Trantam's got this cut on his stomach

[01:12:28] that she puts a maxi pad over which I love.

[01:12:32] They're in the car and he's bleeding

[01:12:34] and she's like lucky for you

[01:12:35] this car is owned by a woman

[01:12:36] and she finds a fucking maxi pad,

[01:12:38] tapes it to his chest.

[01:12:39] Sean Bean's like what's this?

[01:12:40] Trantam's like.

[01:12:41] And then he gets some spray

[01:12:43] and the wound just heals up.

[01:12:44] And she's like what's that?

[01:12:45] And it's like you'd be surprised

[01:12:47] how much technology your people have created.

[01:12:50] And she's like why wouldn't we just,

[01:12:53] why wouldn't we have all of this?

[01:12:55] Why wouldn't you tell everyone about

[01:12:56] what's going on in space?

[01:12:57] And he's like they can't take it.

[01:12:59] Okay, okay, okay, back on track.

[01:13:00] All right so Cain and Stinger and Jupe.

[01:13:06] Yup, Jupe.

[01:13:07] Ambush at a corn field

[01:13:10] which was weird because Looper had just come out

[01:13:12] and there was like a year or two earlier

[01:13:14] and there was also a big corn field battle.

[01:13:15] A lot of corn field battles.

[01:13:17] Yeah.

[01:13:17] And there's a big fight at a corn field

[01:13:19] and in my opinion kind of sucks, lacks stakes.

[01:13:21] Yeah it's not good.

[01:13:22] They've got these weird weapons that don't make sense.

[01:13:24] They don't even seem very lethal.

[01:13:25] One of them just sort of knocks Jupiter down.

[01:13:29] And then there's this reveal where Duna Bay

[01:13:32] turns on another of the bounty hunters

[01:13:34] but you're just like well who is that?

[01:13:36] Like you know it doesn't,

[01:13:37] you don't get the alliances at play.

[01:13:39] Yeah this is probably my least favorite sequence

[01:13:40] in the movie yeah.

[01:13:42] But it ends with her getting,

[01:13:44] Jupiter getting captured

[01:13:46] and taken to Tuppence Middleton.

[01:13:48] Yeah they put her in like a,

[01:13:49] they put her in like a tractor beam sort of thing.

[01:13:53] Yeah she's floating up at looks full.

[01:13:54] She's like no!

[01:13:55] Yeah okay so Tuppence Middleton.

[01:13:58] So Tuppence Middleton aka more like exposition Middleton.

[01:14:03] Sure yeah.

[01:14:05] She delivers a lot of exposition.

[01:14:06] She's an old lady.

[01:14:08] Yeah.

[01:14:09] Like we said she's a young lady in old age makeup.

[01:14:11] Old age makeup.

[01:14:12] But she looks like, when you say old age

[01:14:13] she looks like she's maybe like 65.

[01:14:15] Yeah she doesn't look that old.

[01:14:16] You know?

[01:14:17] It's a cute moment where she asks Jupiter how old she is

[01:14:20] and she's like I don't know mid 40s

[01:14:21] which is like obviously her being nice.

[01:14:23] Yeah.

[01:14:24] Anyway, Gary.

[01:14:26] And Tuppence Middleton is like

[01:14:27] I'm going into my seventh century.

[01:14:29] Yeah no millennia.

[01:14:30] Millennia.

[01:14:31] She's 7000 years old.

[01:14:32] Right yes.

[01:14:33] And she's like basically explains like so

[01:14:36] this whole genetic re-sequencing thing I explained to you

[01:14:38] you're basically the reincarnation of my mommy

[01:14:40] who hears a statue of her looks like you doesn't it?

[01:14:42] Yeah.

[01:14:43] She was 23 millennia old.

[01:14:45] Bonkers shit like that.

[01:14:46] And it's like anyway I've got these two brothers

[01:14:48] and one of them owns the deed to earth

[01:14:50] and like you know it's a lot of crazy shit to tell you.

[01:14:52] Anyway do you know how I stayed this old?

[01:14:54] I'm gonna take a bath.

[01:14:55] Let me take my clothes off.

[01:14:56] Yeah she shows her right bottom.

[01:14:58] She steps into the bath.

[01:15:00] She gets out of the bath.

[01:15:01] Bottom's looking even riper

[01:15:02] cause she just lost like fucking 30, 40 years.

[01:15:05] Right?

[01:15:06] Indeed she did.

[01:15:07] Yeah.

[01:15:08] Although I gotta say if I have one main complaint

[01:15:10] about the movie her face looks a lot less wrinkly

[01:15:12] after she gets out of the bath

[01:15:13] but her butt wasn't that wrinkly

[01:15:15] when she went into the bath.

[01:15:17] They don't try too hard with the butt.

[01:15:18] No.

[01:15:21] Which maybe you know maybe some people

[01:15:22] should heed that warning you know learn that lesson

[01:15:25] don't try too hard with the butt.

[01:15:27] Fuck me negative 15 comedy points.

[01:15:29] Yeah it was terrible.

[01:15:30] She has this whole spiel about like

[01:15:33] we've all got our perfect genetic sequence

[01:15:36] like programmed and like that's what I'm just

[01:15:38] rebooting back to.

[01:15:39] Yeah it's just getting back to basics you know.

[01:15:40] Back to 23 years old you know.

[01:15:42] Right yeah.

[01:15:44] And Mila Keanu's ass she's like

[01:15:48] if you people live this long

[01:15:50] how did your mother actually die?

[01:15:52] And she's like she was killed.

[01:15:53] She was murdered.

[01:15:54] She was murdered.

[01:15:55] Oh I'm sorry.

[01:15:56] Yeah she's like it's fine

[01:15:57] she was fucking 23,000 years old.

[01:15:59] It's fine she lived a good life.

[01:16:00] Don't worry about it.

[01:16:01] So.

[01:16:02] I'm over it.

[01:16:03] That happened for millennia.

[01:16:05] So you get what is kind of annoying

[01:16:08] is like you get this exposition right?

[01:16:10] Yeah.

[01:16:10] And then she goes off

[01:16:12] she hooks up with like the

[01:16:13] what do they call the the ages

[01:16:15] who are like the police

[01:16:17] the galactic police.

[01:16:19] And then they get like picked up by Titus brother

[01:16:22] you know Douglas Booth

[01:16:23] sibling number two.

[01:16:25] Yeah.

[01:16:25] And he's like let me just complete the exposition.

[01:16:28] So the blue pool that she

[01:16:30] Where did she take you up to?

[01:16:31] How far did you get into this?

[01:16:32] Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:16:33] Okay good good good

[01:16:34] The pool that makes you young

[01:16:35] that's made of a hundred people per canister

[01:16:38] and it turns you young

[01:16:39] but you have to harvest whole planets

[01:16:40] to create it

[01:16:41] and that's what we do.

[01:16:42] Right.

[01:16:43] Oops don't drop it shit.

[01:16:44] And she just realized

[01:16:45] like she's just wasted a bunch of lives.

[01:16:47] Yeah a hundred lives.

[01:16:48] Right.

[01:16:48] And he was like

[01:16:50] they explained that humans are aliens.

[01:16:53] So it's like Tupens explains

[01:16:56] you're the reincarnation of my mother

[01:16:57] and you're that like

[01:16:58] you're really important part of this galactic family.

[01:17:00] She leaves a clean edit point.

[01:17:02] And then Titus exactly.

[01:17:05] Yeah.

[01:17:05] And then Titus explains

[01:17:08] Oh and we create the substance by harvesting people

[01:17:12] Yeah.

[01:17:12] We plant on planets and grow to a certain

[01:17:15] like you know six to seven billion person level.

[01:17:17] But I like this idea

[01:17:18] because they're not saying to Mila Cunis

[01:17:20] to Jupiter like

[01:17:22] oh we both look like humans

[01:17:24] but we're different species

[01:17:25] in the way that like Luke Skywalker is an alien.

[01:17:28] Right but he's a humanoid.

[01:17:29] Right exactly.

[01:17:30] They're like oh no

[01:17:31] we're literally the same species

[01:17:33] you're an alien.

[01:17:35] There aren't like there aren't human beings of earth.

[01:17:38] We find a bunch of planets.

[01:17:40] Yeah.

[01:17:40] We move into them.

[01:17:41] We build a bunch of people.

[01:17:42] We wait a couple of millennia

[01:17:43] until they're like nice and cooked.

[01:17:45] Uh-huh.

[01:17:45] And then we go in and we harvest them.

[01:17:48] Yeah.

[01:17:48] We get all the life out of them.

[01:17:49] Right.

[01:17:49] And it's like we seeded earth

[01:17:50] like a hundred thousand years ago.

[01:17:52] Yeah.

[01:17:53] Now this is like the third time

[01:17:55] that Wachowsky has been going to this well.

[01:17:56] Yeah.

[01:17:57] Like people is very matrix.

[01:17:59] Yeah.

[01:17:59] And of course Cloud Atlas also in a little

[01:18:01] you know I mean it's less

[01:18:02] one of the six storylines

[01:18:04] but yes also has this idea of human basically

[01:18:07] humans basically uses food.

[01:18:09] Yeah.

[01:18:10] You know and in what's

[01:18:12] what you call it in the matrix

[01:18:14] they're used as sort of energy.

[01:18:16] They're an energy batteries.

[01:18:17] Right.

[01:18:18] And in this one we're like currency.

[01:18:20] Yeah kind of.

[01:18:21] But we're also basically like a high end beauty product.

[01:18:24] We basically we buy people more time.

[01:18:26] But that's the thing I mean Tuppetsmillson says

[01:18:28] she goes like you know all the silly stuff

[01:18:31] that your people squabble about on your planet.

[01:18:33] When you're practically immortal like me

[01:18:35] all you want is to live longer.

[01:18:36] Right.

[01:18:37] But she's like there are all these things

[01:18:38] you're fighting over like land you know

[01:18:41] energy out of your head.

[01:18:42] Like energy like money oil like none

[01:18:44] that matters the only valuable resource is time.

[01:18:47] Yeah it's much like the HitFilm About Time.

[01:18:49] Yeah.

[01:18:50] No or the HitFilm In Time.

[01:18:52] That's the one you're thinking of.

[01:18:52] That's something.

[01:18:53] Yeah it's not like about time

[01:18:55] which is a cute movie.

[01:18:57] Yeah I like it.

[01:18:58] Yeah me too.

[01:18:59] Me too.

[01:18:59] I like that movie.

[01:19:00] I like that movie.

[01:19:01] But I like that they go so elemental in this

[01:19:03] and they really like they start mapping this one percent thing.

[01:19:06] Yeah so the film has this very broad consumer

[01:19:10] like yeah you know critique of the money class

[01:19:14] aristocracy type thing going on

[01:19:16] but very broad very space opera broad.

[01:19:18] Very space opera broad.

[01:19:19] I guess this what makes it this is

[01:19:21] this what makes it different.

[01:19:22] This is what makes it different than the last two

[01:19:24] depictions they've done of similar things right.

[01:19:26] In this one we're really getting

[01:19:29] a face time with the people who make this decision.

[01:19:32] Sure.

[01:19:32] Like in The Matrix they're sentinels whatever

[01:19:34] they're fucking flying things right.

[01:19:36] In Cloud Atlas it's like we don't see

[01:19:39] who's at the top of the chain.

[01:19:40] Yeah we don't get to that.

[01:19:41] Right we don't see who's made those decisions.

[01:19:42] In this they're sitting down in a personable way

[01:19:45] going like what why would you live forever

[01:19:48] if you got to break a few eggs

[01:19:49] if you got to waste other people's lives

[01:19:51] that's what you do.

[01:19:52] Which is sort of like I mean this kind of made offy

[01:19:55] thing where it's like well if you want to make a couple

[01:19:56] billion dollars you got to not care about other fucking

[01:19:59] people.

[01:19:59] Well and also it's like I like this idea that comes in later

[01:20:03] where she's worrying about signing over the deed to earth

[01:20:07] to Eddie Redmayne.

[01:20:08] Yeah.

[01:20:09] And he's like don't worry like I won't even harvest

[01:20:12] the planet for another few hundred years.

[01:20:14] You won't even know about it you're gonna be dead.

[01:20:16] It's like honestly it doesn't affect most people's life.

[01:20:21] Which I love.

[01:20:22] There's like a hundred billion people live and die

[01:20:24] during this like growth period.

[01:20:26] Over and over again.

[01:20:27] And then yeah right at the end you got to skim like eight

[01:20:30] billion people off the top.

[01:20:31] You know that's no not that's not that's no nice.

[01:20:34] Yeah.

[01:20:34] That's no nice.

[01:20:35] That's no nice.

[01:20:36] But we're going to put that on a t-shirt that will sell

[01:20:38] on Amazon.

[01:20:39] That's no nice.

[01:20:40] That's a no nice.

[01:20:41] But but it is sort of this like equivalency thing

[01:20:46] like or what you know like they're just they're

[01:20:48] just sort of living with the bad thing to you know

[01:20:51] for all the good things right.

[01:20:53] But the other thing I sort of you know dug into more

[01:20:57] watching it this second time because I you know the plot

[01:20:59] I had sort of figured out more so I was able to kind of

[01:21:01] read into what they were doing and it's not very hidden.

[01:21:03] Right.

[01:21:03] I mean it's pretty it's pretty basic.

[01:21:05] It's pretty basic surface stuff.

[01:21:06] They're they're painting with a very you know broad

[01:21:08] brush here thick brush but they keep on talking about

[01:21:12] me it's this idea of like their old moneyed people.

[01:21:15] They're rich because they were born rich.

[01:21:17] They will always be rich like this is eternal.

[01:21:20] You know they are literally like pretty much eternal

[01:21:23] because they have this resource but it's like

[01:21:25] they're sort of born into a sociopathy of like

[01:21:27] you deserve this.

[01:21:29] You do whatever you can to keep this going.

[01:21:31] Yeah.

[01:21:31] You've been given this opportunity and when they talk

[01:21:33] about Jupiter who is sort of you know this reincarnation

[01:21:36] one of them makes her part of the bloodline right

[01:21:37] she's not being told that she's part of it

[01:21:39] which is like the Cinderella fantasy you know.

[01:21:41] Oh you're meant to be a princess you know.

[01:21:44] Yeah.

[01:21:44] A lot of those stories are you don't know who you are

[01:21:46] this is who you really are your Harry Potter

[01:21:48] you're living under the staircase but you're

[01:21:49] actually the most powerful wizard in the world.

[01:21:51] They keep on using the word entitlement.

[01:21:53] Right.

[01:21:54] They go like we need to sign your entitlement.

[01:21:56] You are entitled to this you know.

[01:21:58] It's this idea of like because of who you are

[01:22:01] not what you did you have this power

[01:22:04] and all you have to do is just turn your head

[01:22:06] the other way.

[01:22:06] Is just not care about how you're hurting

[01:22:09] and she doesn't that doesn't sit well with her.

[01:22:11] Well this is the thing about the movie

[01:22:13] that is good and bad.

[01:22:14] Yes.

[01:22:15] Is that her triumph and her experience

[01:22:20] has already been lived.

[01:22:22] Which is I mean I tweeted this I found the tweet

[01:22:25] if you want to read it.

[01:22:26] Jupiter sounding is basically a movie about

[01:22:28] how the privileged clash should clean

[01:22:29] toilets for 25 years before being given access to money.

[01:22:32] Was that from the time of its release.

[01:22:34] No I just read it.

[01:22:35] Oh good.

[01:22:35] OK.

[01:22:36] A few days ago.

[01:22:37] But it's like the reason she has

[01:22:41] like a strong moral center and like a

[01:22:43] discuss for what they're doing and it's

[01:22:45] kind of a disinterest in her quote unquote

[01:22:48] entitlement is because she's already

[01:22:50] lived a nice like you know tough life.

[01:22:52] Yes she's been like invisible to society

[01:22:54] for so long she knows what it's like to not

[01:22:55] be looked at as a person.

[01:22:57] Exactly so she doesn't want to treat

[01:22:59] humanity that way right and so

[01:23:02] And you even get that in the scene.

[01:23:03] That's what it takes to inspire revolution.

[01:23:05] Unfortunately that's not something

[01:23:07] the film can really depict happening.

[01:23:10] It's more just like we already kind of

[01:23:12] assumed she's not going to go for it.

[01:23:13] Yeah.

[01:23:14] And she doesn't go for it.

[01:23:15] I mean that's by the nature of this

[01:23:17] film.

[01:23:17] This is to me where the movie kind of

[01:23:19] grinds to a halt and has some trouble.

[01:23:20] Yeah I mean I think they did want to

[01:23:22] make sequels to this film.

[01:23:23] I think this film works as its own

[01:23:25] self-contained story.

[01:23:25] I mean you could do any sequel because

[01:23:27] this is a world in which of

[01:23:28] universe in which literally anything

[01:23:30] is possible right.

[01:23:31] You just be like there's some trouble

[01:23:32] on the planet Boopidoop and you just

[01:23:34] fly over there it's like what's

[01:23:35] there are they're all gelatinous

[01:23:36] cubes we're going to have to deal

[01:23:37] with that like you know they could

[01:23:38] do whatever they wanted.

[01:23:39] Like I mean yes I agree with you

[01:23:41] that cuts both ways.

[01:23:42] You could see how this film sets

[01:23:43] the stage beautifully for a

[01:23:44] sequel where she is empowered.

[01:23:46] She's the queen of earth.

[01:23:47] She can do whatever she wants.

[01:23:48] Sure.

[01:23:49] This film because she's the babe in

[01:23:50] the woods.

[01:23:51] Yeah.

[01:23:51] The one coming into this world

[01:23:53] she's our surrogate character you

[01:23:54] know.

[01:23:55] She's the one who doesn't

[01:23:56] understand anything.

[01:23:57] A lot of the film has to be her

[01:23:58] learning stuff.

[01:23:59] And going what?

[01:24:01] Right.

[01:24:01] Oh me?

[01:24:03] Right and sort of just making the

[01:24:04] choice of where she stands.

[01:24:06] That's her power right.

[01:24:07] Is like what do I believe in.

[01:24:09] If in the third act she was like

[01:24:11] fuck this I'm suiting up and

[01:24:13] became a warrior we probably

[01:24:14] would have the complaint of

[01:24:15] like that's pretty fast

[01:24:16] transition that she becomes

[01:24:17] this powerful.

[01:24:18] Or you could have done the

[01:24:19] classic you know like first

[01:24:21] act she's nobody second act

[01:24:22] tempted by royalty who gets into

[01:24:24] all this business as she's

[01:24:26] flying around with tuppence

[01:24:27] then realizes wait a second

[01:24:29] these blue baths are people

[01:24:31] and then rebels but instead

[01:24:33] it's like who am I what is all

[01:24:35] this these blue baths are

[01:24:36] people.

[01:24:37] Oh I don't like that like

[01:24:38] you know it's all at once.

[01:24:39] Well yeah but even the one

[01:24:41] you were throwing out I mean

[01:24:41] I feel like there are a lot

[01:24:42] of movies like that where

[01:24:43] someone picks up a gun

[01:24:44] having scrubbed toilets for

[01:24:45] 25 years.

[01:24:46] I get what your point is

[01:24:47] but they don't do that.

[01:24:48] They don't do that.

[01:24:49] Right.

[01:24:49] But also what they do is shitty

[01:24:51] in its own way which is like

[01:24:52] she doesn't really get to do

[01:24:53] anything other than just let

[01:24:54] people know what she thinks.

[01:24:55] The biggest problem with the

[01:24:56] movie is that once she's at

[01:24:58] Titus's planet ship whatever

[01:25:01] Google Mbatha raw is there is

[01:25:02] a go go my bath or raw

[01:25:04] is a lady with the ears.

[01:25:06] Go go my bath or raw.

[01:25:08] All right.

[01:25:09] Who's that you didn't like

[01:25:10] that.

[01:25:11] It was OK.

[01:25:11] I was doing ODB.

[01:25:13] Yeah.

[01:25:14] Yeah.

[01:25:14] I watched the movie this

[01:25:15] morning and I was like oh I

[01:25:16] that'd be a funny thing to do.

[01:25:17] You should do that.

[01:25:19] I just don't want to make fun

[01:25:20] of her name.

[01:25:20] I guess it's I don't either.

[01:25:21] I love her.

[01:25:22] I'm not making fun of her.

[01:25:22] She's one of my favorite actresses.

[01:25:24] I was like here's honestly

[01:25:25] what was going on.

[01:25:26] I got a notification about the

[01:25:27] Star Wars in Cartrade or

[01:25:28] F. Here's here's what was

[01:25:32] going on.

[01:25:32] Do you still use it every day.

[01:25:33] Yeah.

[01:25:34] I do too but it's sort of

[01:25:35] become perfunctory.

[01:25:36] I'm only chasing one series now

[01:25:37] you know where's the 77.

[01:25:40] I mean for the 77s and

[01:25:41] nothing else.

[01:25:42] I like and the fans choice

[01:25:43] but that's easy because they're

[01:25:44] free.

[01:25:45] I just have to remember check

[01:25:46] in.

[01:25:47] Please make trades on Griff

[01:25:48] Lightning on the Star Wars

[01:25:49] Trader at Cartrade or

[01:25:50] your David Elstons David

[01:25:52] Elstons.

[01:25:52] Yeah.

[01:25:53] Feel free to make us any

[01:25:54] trade requests.

[01:25:55] Anyway what I was going to say

[01:25:56] is I love Google in the

[01:25:57] bath or raw.

[01:25:57] Me too.

[01:25:58] He's one of my favorite actresses.

[01:25:59] Great.

[01:26:00] I want her to be the biggest

[01:26:00] star in the world.

[01:26:01] Sure.

[01:26:02] I was watching this film and

[01:26:03] every time she came on screen

[01:26:04] she doesn't have a large part.

[01:26:05] She plays.

[01:26:06] Yeah she got like bad years

[01:26:07] and ear lady.

[01:26:08] She's got like bad ears.

[01:26:09] She's got like big sonar

[01:26:10] bad ears or maybe like deer

[01:26:11] ears.

[01:26:11] I don't know what animal

[01:26:12] she's supposed to be.

[01:26:13] She's supposed to be a deer.

[01:26:14] Her name is.

[01:26:15] Yes.

[01:26:15] Famulous.

[01:26:16] Oh OK.

[01:26:17] So many.

[01:26:18] Hey you know I got a problem.

[01:26:19] Yeah shoot them.

[01:26:20] All right cool.

[01:26:21] So this is how this is how

[01:26:23] this is what tricked me up at

[01:26:24] least.

[01:26:25] All right.

[01:26:25] So apparently humans are

[01:26:27] from this like ancient

[01:26:29] form of humans that's

[01:26:31] like from another galaxy.

[01:26:33] Right.

[01:26:33] Correct.

[01:26:33] Yeah.

[01:26:34] But still if we we know

[01:26:36] about evolution humans come

[01:26:38] from monkeys.

[01:26:39] So do we.

[01:26:40] You're saying we come from

[01:26:41] space monkeys.

[01:26:42] Yes.

[01:26:43] Yeah.

[01:26:43] Space monkeys.

[01:26:44] But did they then bring

[01:26:45] space monkeys to.

[01:26:47] Sure.

[01:26:47] Plan it.

[01:26:48] Probably.

[01:26:48] They probably just imitate

[01:26:49] their evolution

[01:26:52] on another planet.

[01:26:53] I want to see these space

[01:26:54] monkeys.

[01:26:54] Yeah me too.

[01:26:55] Good question.

[01:26:55] Got me good call.

[01:26:56] Space monkeys.

[01:26:57] The way I viewed it is this

[01:26:58] film is supposing presupposing

[01:27:00] that like every species that

[01:27:01] we know has the potential

[01:27:04] to evolve into a human being.

[01:27:06] Oh interesting.

[01:27:07] What.

[01:27:07] Into like a humanoid type

[01:27:08] figure.

[01:27:09] What do you mean.

[01:27:10] Because you have all these

[01:27:11] like elephants.

[01:27:12] No he's right though there's

[01:27:13] there's dragon people.

[01:27:14] I think.

[01:27:14] But those are dinosaurs.

[01:27:16] Right.

[01:27:16] Those are splyces.

[01:27:18] Splices.

[01:27:18] Are all of them splices.

[01:27:19] I think so.

[01:27:20] Not the dinosaurs.

[01:27:21] See I think Channing's a

[01:27:22] splice.

[01:27:22] I'm sorry.

[01:27:23] I think Kane wise is a

[01:27:24] splice because he says so

[01:27:25] explicitly but he's also just

[01:27:26] got like a touch of the dog.

[01:27:28] You know.

[01:27:30] But I look at like the

[01:27:30] elephant man you see at

[01:27:31] like the control.

[01:27:32] Maybe I'm just carrying my

[01:27:33] own fucking crazy back

[01:27:35] story to this.

[01:27:35] They don't explain.

[01:27:36] Are animals then just aliens.

[01:27:38] Is like.

[01:27:39] There's like a utopia

[01:27:40] situation right now.

[01:27:41] Plan it.

[01:27:42] Is this a utopia situation.

[01:27:43] Yes or no.

[01:27:44] Is this one part of the ZCU.

[01:27:45] Yes.

[01:27:46] What do you think is utopia.

[01:27:48] Good movie.

[01:27:49] So is Earth.

[01:27:49] I like it a lot.

[01:27:50] Is Earth like we bought a zoo.

[01:27:52] Yeah exactly.

[01:27:53] OK.

[01:27:53] God that seems like a vote for

[01:27:54] Cameron Crowe.

[01:27:55] We solved that.

[01:27:56] Yeah.

[01:27:56] Which one do you want us to

[01:27:57] do.

[01:28:00] Let's say this actually Ben.

[01:28:01] I mean give us who you'd

[01:28:02] pick out of the four but

[01:28:03] also if you could pick any

[01:28:04] filmmaker who would your next

[01:28:05] mini series.

[01:28:06] Oh wow.

[01:28:07] Geez do you really put me on

[01:28:09] the spot here.

[01:28:09] You can think about it.

[01:28:10] We'll get you.

[01:28:11] Let's come back at the end of

[01:28:12] the episode.

[01:28:12] We'll get through this and then

[01:28:14] I'll have an answer by that.

[01:28:15] What I was going to say was

[01:28:16] that I love Goo Goo Mabatharaj.

[01:28:17] He makes me really happy when I

[01:28:19] saw her in the movie I started

[01:28:20] like singing songs to myself.

[01:28:22] That's trying to come up with

[01:28:23] a song that incorporate her

[01:28:24] name and I was like Goo Goo

[01:28:26] Mabatharaj because her name is

[01:28:27] fun to say so I was like

[01:28:28] come with original songs and

[01:28:29] I was like you could just map

[01:28:31] ODB onto it.

[01:28:32] I'm sorry if it seemed

[01:28:33] disrespectful.

[01:28:33] No it's fine it's fine.

[01:28:34] I was trying to celebrate.

[01:28:35] Please I'm hungry.

[01:28:38] I am hungry.

[01:28:38] Go go Mabatharaj.

[01:28:40] But so the problem

[01:28:42] of my complaint is at the

[01:28:43] Titus scene.

[01:28:44] Yes Titus scenes.

[01:28:46] He's like I hate these

[01:28:48] blue the harvesting.

[01:28:50] I hate it all.

[01:28:50] It's terrible.

[01:28:51] My mother hated it.

[01:28:52] She was trying to stop it.

[01:28:53] I want to pick up where she

[01:28:54] left off.

[01:28:55] You're my mother.

[01:28:56] So let's get married.

[01:29:01] Nobody says like

[01:29:03] but I'm your mom right.

[01:29:04] Yeah because the other two

[01:29:05] characters keep on being like

[01:29:06] mom you are basically my

[01:29:08] mother.

[01:29:08] Right and she even like her

[01:29:09] last big line to Eddie Redmayne

[01:29:11] is like I'm not your mother.

[01:29:13] I know but

[01:29:14] but Titus like doesn't push the

[01:29:16] mommy thing at all.

[01:29:17] No he's just like let's get

[01:29:18] married we're friends and she's

[01:29:20] like I guess so and he's

[01:29:22] like great I've hired a hundred

[01:29:23] thousand robots to be the

[01:29:24] audience everyone's wedding.

[01:29:25] Yeah and the robots have like

[01:29:26] gun arms and it's not like

[01:29:28] their forearms are guns.

[01:29:30] It's like right at the

[01:29:30] shoulder they have guns that

[01:29:31] they have little stubs they

[01:29:32] have little nubby guns at

[01:29:34] their shoulders.

[01:29:35] So laser guns.

[01:29:37] I mean there and he even

[01:29:38] says like you're even more

[01:29:39] gullible than my mother was or

[01:29:41] something like that which is

[01:29:42] probably my least favorite moment.

[01:29:43] Yeah it's bad and like

[01:29:45] yes she's getting swept up in

[01:29:46] something that is so obviously

[01:29:48] not good.

[01:29:50] Yeah it's obviously a boy

[01:29:51] doesn't like inquire and

[01:29:53] how does she say fucking

[01:29:54] Channy Tatum space roller

[01:29:56] skates from one ship to

[01:29:58] another.

[01:29:58] Yeah I mean she's not in love

[01:29:59] with him.

[01:30:00] There's no.

[01:30:01] The reason to do it but I'm

[01:30:02] saying like I admire that the

[01:30:04] film doesn't do.

[01:30:06] A sort of frozen fake out

[01:30:08] where it's like oh she thinks

[01:30:09] she's in love with this guy and

[01:30:10] then she realizes the guy was

[01:30:11] just in it for the castle.

[01:30:12] Right.

[01:30:12] Uh huh.

[01:30:13] Like it seems pretty clear from

[01:30:15] the get go that this is a

[01:30:16] strategic marriage.

[01:30:18] I understand.

[01:30:19] But it also happened so fucking

[01:30:21] quick.

[01:30:21] So fast.

[01:30:22] Yeah.

[01:30:23] And she makes the decision so

[01:30:25] quickly.

[01:30:26] He kind of tries to frame it

[01:30:27] as like oh you need to marry

[01:30:28] me to like secure earths

[01:30:31] you know safety and all.

[01:30:32] Yeah because Eddie Redman

[01:30:33] is going to sweep in he's

[01:30:34] like a problem guy so you

[01:30:35] don't want to deal with him.

[01:30:36] Yeah.

[01:30:37] The two siblings are against

[01:30:38] Eddie Redman like that's very

[01:30:40] clear from the beginning.

[01:30:41] Even the opening.

[01:30:41] They don't like toughens is kind

[01:30:43] of playing the middle though.

[01:30:45] Yeah.

[01:30:46] She's straddling the line maybe

[01:30:47] but Eddie's definitely like the

[01:30:48] black sheep of the family.

[01:30:51] The quiet sheep.

[01:30:52] Yeah.

[01:30:53] And so yeah they're having a

[01:30:55] wedding ceremony.

[01:30:56] There's a cool thing where

[01:30:57] they fucking is this before

[01:30:59] after the bureaucracy scene.

[01:31:03] Before after the

[01:31:06] bureaucracy scene.

[01:31:08] The Brazil sequence.

[01:31:09] No I think it's after.

[01:31:12] We forgot about that and we

[01:31:13] should talk about it.

[01:31:14] I think that in the middle

[01:31:16] she goes to the

[01:31:18] capital planet or whatever.

[01:31:20] You got to get certified

[01:31:21] Coruscant.

[01:31:22] Right you have to get

[01:31:23] certified as the queen of

[01:31:25] Earth.

[01:31:25] There is an excellent sequence

[01:31:28] where she has a robot

[01:31:30] helper whose name is intergalactic

[01:31:33] advocate Bob.

[01:31:34] Probably my favorite character

[01:31:35] in the one hundred percent.

[01:31:37] One thousand percent the best

[01:31:39] character if you had to do a

[01:31:40] whole eternity in this film

[01:31:41] who would it be.

[01:31:42] Intergalactic advocate Bob

[01:31:44] number one with a bullet no

[01:31:44] question number one with a

[01:31:46] bullet.

[01:31:47] Chicanery night.

[01:31:49] Mr. Knight.

[01:31:51] Mouse man.

[01:31:51] Yeah.

[01:31:52] I'd probably do googoo is

[01:31:53] number two but she's getting

[01:31:54] grandfathered in because of her

[01:31:55] past work.

[01:31:56] She's got a shitty character

[01:31:57] don't like that character

[01:31:58] don't like that character.

[01:32:00] Sorry I am stalling while

[01:32:01] I look at the cast list

[01:32:04] and decide who the third

[01:32:05] character that I want in my

[01:32:07] trilogy Trinity is

[01:32:10] I mean Eddie Redmayne is

[01:32:11] probably my third.

[01:32:11] Yeah I guess so.

[01:32:13] I'm just trying to think if

[01:32:13] there's like another really cool

[01:32:15] weird little character to like

[01:32:17] spotlight.

[01:32:17] I do enjoy.

[01:32:20] No I hate him.

[01:32:21] He's hot.

[01:32:22] I do enjoy Tim Piggitsmith

[01:32:24] is Madadikte's who's another

[01:32:25] of these fucking like oh

[01:32:27] afternoon sigh.

[01:32:28] Like a guy with makeup on

[01:32:30] his face.

[01:32:31] Yeah.

[01:32:32] Also I foot her name the

[01:32:34] Nikki Amuka bird that she's

[01:32:36] like the captain.

[01:32:37] She's cool.

[01:32:38] A lot a lot.

[01:32:40] We're doing the 10 part

[01:32:41] miniseries.

[01:32:41] I think we'd have some fun

[01:32:42] with her.

[01:32:42] She projects a lot of

[01:32:43] confidence.

[01:32:44] Yeah like captaincy.

[01:32:46] Yeah.

[01:32:46] Even though she doesn't like

[01:32:47] have much to do.

[01:32:48] But she does that like on the

[01:32:49] record off the record thing

[01:32:50] to like you get a sense of

[01:32:51] she's not just about.

[01:32:51] She's like I just evaluate

[01:32:53] your actions Channing Tatum

[01:32:54] but off the record you're

[01:32:55] the bravest man I know her

[01:32:56] whatever.

[01:32:57] That's fun because he like

[01:32:58] rollerskates into the great

[01:32:59] red spot or whatever.

[01:33:00] This movie looks so good.

[01:33:02] Such a good looking movie.

[01:33:04] Look it's beautifully designed.

[01:33:05] I'm not surprised.

[01:33:06] Right.

[01:33:06] Which house he's.

[01:33:07] He's got a hundred seventy five

[01:33:09] million dollars but it's all up

[01:33:10] on screen.

[01:33:10] It's on screen.

[01:33:11] It looks great.

[01:33:13] But anyway as we're saying

[01:33:14] they go to the capital planet

[01:33:15] and she has to like verify

[01:33:17] and they like and with

[01:33:18] intergalactic advocate Bob

[01:33:19] who's like a robot man.

[01:33:20] He's going crazy like he's

[01:33:22] he was built to advocate.

[01:33:24] He's played by Samuel Barnett

[01:33:26] and he can't deal with this

[01:33:27] shit.

[01:33:28] The fucking bureaucracy you

[01:33:29] have to go here.

[01:33:30] You have to get this paper.

[01:33:30] They told us we had to come

[01:33:31] here to get this paper.

[01:33:32] Well it doesn't matter what they

[01:33:33] told me to get this paper to

[01:33:34] get very very Terry Gilliam.

[01:33:35] It's very tactile.

[01:33:36] There's all this like wacky

[01:33:37] business stamps gears running in

[01:33:38] his head.

[01:33:39] Yeah.

[01:33:40] Love it.

[01:33:40] And then Terry Gilliam shows up

[01:33:41] for a second in an obvious and

[01:33:43] loving nod to his uvra.

[01:33:46] And once again they just fucking

[01:33:47] didn't they didn't change his

[01:33:48] look at all.

[01:33:49] It's so he's being very

[01:33:51] lazy being funny.

[01:33:52] He's got like a laser

[01:33:54] monocle right.

[01:33:54] He's got like an orange like

[01:33:56] computer monocle

[01:33:57] and they made him look even

[01:33:59] more like a bridge troll

[01:34:01] than he usually does.

[01:34:02] And it's like a second where

[01:34:03] you're like you're just sort of

[01:34:05] idly thinking like man this

[01:34:07] whole thing is so like Brazil

[01:34:08] it's so Terry Gilliam and then

[01:34:09] you're like that guy kind of

[01:34:10] looks like Terry Gilliam.

[01:34:11] Wait that guy's Terry Gilliam

[01:34:12] you know which ask is

[01:34:13] like don't worry we know

[01:34:15] it's a good camera we know

[01:34:16] we know what you're

[01:34:16] thinking and then she goes off

[01:34:17] to Titus Janie Tanem rescues

[01:34:19] her and it's like well first

[01:34:21] first he's like they're like

[01:34:22] done job is done.

[01:34:24] There's also a moment I don't

[01:34:25] like in the film where they

[01:34:27] get on the ship before they

[01:34:28] go through all the bureaucracy

[01:34:29] when she's meeting like the

[01:34:30] crew and everything.

[01:34:31] Captain Bird whatever her real

[01:34:32] name is.

[01:34:33] Yeah her character name is

[01:34:34] rather and Stinger shows up.

[01:34:37] She thought Stinger was dead

[01:34:38] because when they left him he

[01:34:39] was fighting off.

[01:34:40] Oh Jesus and they're like it

[01:34:41] turns out Stinger betrayed you

[01:34:43] or something.

[01:34:44] Well before this right.

[01:34:45] No that I'm saying before

[01:34:47] this there's the moment I'm

[01:34:47] going back a little just talk

[01:34:49] about this one line I hate

[01:34:50] or the line reading rather

[01:34:51] where they're like and we

[01:34:53] got someone else you might

[01:34:54] know here and the door opens

[01:34:55] up and it's Stinger and

[01:34:56] Mila Kinnis goes Stinger

[01:34:58] and as if it's like her old

[01:35:01] friend.

[01:35:02] It's like you literally spent

[01:35:04] 20 minutes together in a barn

[01:35:06] and you spent 15 minutes

[01:35:07] apart.

[01:35:08] Yeah.

[01:35:08] You know you saw him really

[01:35:10] recently.

[01:35:11] Sean Bean is a lovable man.

[01:35:12] He's love of a third bill.

[01:35:13] Yeah.

[01:35:14] And he's really good.

[01:35:14] Build it up red man.

[01:35:16] Yeah.

[01:35:17] Got that third.

[01:35:18] Got that third.

[01:35:20] Gotta get that tired.

[01:35:22] Tired belling.

[01:35:23] I'm so hungry.

[01:35:24] Me too.

[01:35:24] I need a sandwich so valley

[01:35:26] but but the

[01:35:28] the film treats it as if we're

[01:35:30] like stunned and thrilled

[01:35:32] that Stinger's back and it's

[01:35:33] like yeah dude's third bill.

[01:35:34] I knew he was going to be back

[01:35:35] Stinger's here.

[01:35:36] And then it's like oh and he

[01:35:37] betrayed you.

[01:35:38] That happens later so they go

[01:35:39] through the bureaucracy.

[01:35:41] Then they then they're like

[01:35:43] then she goes to Titus.

[01:35:44] Titus tries to marry her.

[01:35:46] It gets but no but you see

[01:35:47] Trang Tatum and he's like

[01:35:48] they're like jobs done.

[01:35:49] You're out of here.

[01:35:51] And then he's just like

[01:35:53] and Stinger gives him the

[01:35:53] speech.

[01:35:54] He's like you spent your whole

[01:35:55] life looking for one thing.

[01:35:57] Listen to me.

[01:35:57] Searching.

[01:35:58] Yeah.

[01:35:58] Lone Wolf.

[01:35:59] You've been searching for one

[01:36:00] thing and now you found her.

[01:36:03] Got to go get her.

[01:36:04] Got to run after her.

[01:36:05] So he gets on his crazy

[01:36:07] shit with the crazy rocket

[01:36:08] boots and he goes plans this

[01:36:10] attack breaks through the wall.

[01:36:12] They're like lasering the ring

[01:36:13] around her finger which is cool.

[01:36:15] Yeah that's fine.

[01:36:16] I like that.

[01:36:17] It's cool.

[01:36:18] Yeah.

[01:36:18] And then he gets her out of

[01:36:19] the ceremony.

[01:36:20] He gets her out of there.

[01:36:21] It's like this is fucked.

[01:36:22] He's going to kill you the

[01:36:23] second after the ceremony is

[01:36:24] done.

[01:36:24] He wants the planet and

[01:36:25] immediately Douglas Booth is

[01:36:27] like you're prettier than my

[01:36:28] mother ever was and even more

[01:36:30] gullible.

[01:36:30] And it's like really that quickly

[01:36:31] you're going to be like OK you

[01:36:32] got me on a piece of shit.

[01:36:34] Like I'll announce it to

[01:36:35] everybody.

[01:36:35] I'm a and the only reason he

[01:36:37] doesn't die is because Mila

[01:36:38] Cunis is like just get me out

[01:36:39] of here.

[01:36:40] Yeah they're like you want me

[01:36:41] to kill her and she's like

[01:36:41] no I don't want anyone to

[01:36:43] die.

[01:36:43] How many times do I just say

[01:36:44] this.

[01:36:44] But no then you're like

[01:36:46] you're like all right you're

[01:36:47] kind of like this movie is

[01:36:48] like getting to be like about

[01:36:49] an hour 50 like hour 45

[01:36:51] like what's happening.

[01:36:52] I took I took a pause at

[01:36:53] this moment to check on the

[01:36:54] time stamp.

[01:36:54] It's like an hour 30.

[01:36:56] And another film it feels like

[01:36:57] that would be the third act

[01:36:58] climax.

[01:36:59] But you say that kind of rush

[01:37:01] through it.

[01:37:02] Yeah.

[01:37:02] Because Balam has kidnapped her

[01:37:04] Russian family.

[01:37:05] But I kind of like this because

[01:37:06] I feel like it's like a fake

[01:37:07] out ending like not that you

[01:37:08] believe the movie is going to

[01:37:09] actually end at that point

[01:37:10] because Eddie Redmayne hasn't

[01:37:11] been dealt with.

[01:37:12] Right.

[01:37:12] But that's the trigger that

[01:37:14] makes me realize.

[01:37:14] But a lot of stories like

[01:37:15] this it's like you save him

[01:37:17] from the wedding.

[01:37:17] The real true love comes.

[01:37:19] They do the rescue like end

[01:37:20] of story.

[01:37:21] And it's like nope you got

[01:37:22] one more boss to defeat.

[01:37:24] Yeah. So she goes to Jupiter

[01:37:25] because Balam's there.

[01:37:26] He's kidnapped her.

[01:37:27] She goes home first.

[01:37:28] The family a lizard man comes

[01:37:30] in the mouse dude.

[01:37:32] And they're like so she goes

[01:37:34] back up to space.

[01:37:35] There's a beautiful shot earlier

[01:37:37] in the film I forgot to mention

[01:37:38] where the rings of Saturn

[01:37:40] were like a ship like

[01:37:42] crashes out of them.

[01:37:43] So it's like a submarine

[01:37:44] coming out of the waves.

[01:37:45] So cool.

[01:37:46] Do you know what I like about

[01:37:46] the visuals of this movie

[01:37:47] aside from the fact that

[01:37:48] they're very well designed.

[01:37:49] I think the Wachowski just

[01:37:51] have an experience

[01:37:52] composite these images really

[01:37:53] well. So the images feel

[01:37:54] cohesive and united.

[01:37:56] The live action plates and the

[01:37:57] CGI elements feel connected.

[01:37:59] I agree with you.

[01:38:00] I just don't think it's true of

[01:38:01] the action which I think is

[01:38:02] very perfunctory.

[01:38:03] Here's what I don't think the

[01:38:04] action works as well.

[01:38:05] Here's what I like about it.

[01:38:06] OK.

[01:38:07] I'll say what I like about the

[01:38:08] design then my like man.

[01:38:09] Yeah.

[01:38:10] I like that this film feels

[01:38:12] like it doesn't have any walls.

[01:38:13] Right.

[01:38:14] Like when you see like the

[01:38:15] Marvel Thor movies Asgard

[01:38:17] is like it looks like a

[01:38:18] neighborhood like you don't

[01:38:20] get a sense of the place.

[01:38:21] This movie anytime they cut

[01:38:22] to somewhere new it's like this

[01:38:24] thing just keeps getting bigger