On the week of it’s release in November of 2017, Griffin and David discussed the newest film in DC Extended Universe: Justice League. But is Superman still gone even though Henry Cavill is second billed? Just how many times was this movie reshot and is it very noticeable? Will the seven be united? Together they examine using CGI to remove a person’s mustache, Martha boxes and Batmansplaining.
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[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check What are your superpowers again? I podcast Great Hello everybody, my name's Griffin Newman Great
[00:00:28] David, Sims, that's me We're hashtag the two friends, unite the two You can't podcast the world alone You need to Might be temporary Maybe temporary This is a podcast called Blank Check with Griffin and David My man My man right here We are each other's man Boo-ya!
[00:00:50] I'm gonna get him all out of the way My man All these great lines Just like a bat, my man I hear you talk to fish Yeah, this is a podcast about filmography Filmographies directors who have mastered success early on in their careers
[00:01:06] And granted series of Blank Checks Make whatever crazy passion projects they want David is cleaning his eyes Very dramatically Sort of daintily Casting it off Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce Baby Sometimes they unite the bounce, I don't know
[00:01:27] Now this is a kind of stealth miniseries that we've been doing That we sort of backed into We backed into But it's fun Yes The EU DCEU Extended universe of Detective Comics extended universe Great
[00:01:45] No, because it came out that DCEU was a false term that was made up Yeah, they don't actually use that Right, so why don't we just create a new term Well, I've stopped using it in my writing
[00:01:54] And I just refer to like the DC universe because like it's dumb Extended universe? It doesn't make any sense No What's the extension of? I think MCU Marvel Cinematic Universe Makes sense, cinematic, I get it So you're talking about the movie universe of the Marvel Comics
[00:02:10] Okay, but DCU which is used for like the comic universe The DC universe You can't put another C in there Because you already got a C It sounds goofy if you go DCCU Sounds okay It's like the Dimitri Martin joke about trying to buy B batteries
[00:02:25] When you have a stutter Okay I don't remember I'd like to buy B batteries please Yeah, I get it DCCU, you know? Uh-huh So they were like E extended But like someone just said that And then it became canon
[00:02:43] Right, so I'm saying let's just sell us your new canon here The EU DCEU That just rolls all the time What was that? O.M? O.M, the extended universe of DC Extended universe of movies Okay, so it's this This is what we're leading with
[00:03:02] The T.E.U. DCU M So we did a like jokie podcast about Batman vs Superman And now we just have to review every single one of those things That's what's happening That's what's happening Just FYI Right Um, because David refuses to ever do the Sni Kids miniseries
[00:03:24] Yeah Yeah, I refuse We'll break it down one day Really? We will break it down one day Really? Don't you want to fly with the The Owls of Gahoo? Yeah I mean sure The Guardian Legend of the Guardians The Owls of Gahoo
[00:03:42] These Justice League could have learned some lessons from the Owls of Gahoo Those Alt-Right Owls So this is kind of the movie that all these movies that we've been talking about Has been building up to Yeah, except no it isn't That's not true In theory
[00:03:57] In theory yes but actually not In terms of like Like if you would run this right Then yes, this would be the convergence point I'm saying in terms of investor phone calls Sure But I mean And in 2017 We're gonna have Justice League
[00:04:12] And that's gonna be the pay off for everything we've been working on That's definitely what like the WB executive said to their investors Like four years ago Right And then we're gonna make the highest grossing movie of all time It's called Justice League that's coming in 2017 Um
[00:04:27] Now when Marvel did this Who DC are copying Yes They had your Iron Man Hulk Iron Man 2 And then you know they were like Okay okay okay We're gonna build up to a team movie They had Thor They had Thor They had Captain America And then
[00:04:42] Now they had everyone ready To put them all together in Avengers They didn't introduce anyone new in Avengers Except for like Hawkeye They had his Thor scene but essentially was being set up in that Exactly right You know what I mean
[00:04:56] Like they didn't have to do a lot The idea was just the thrill of them all together right The movie hit the ground running Whereas with Justice League or whatever It was like Okay we did a Superman movie Okay That people didn't like That people didn't like
[00:05:09] So we did a sequel to that That's Batman and Superman And then Wonder Woman will show up in it Right Okay okay Everyone cool with that Yeah Alright now we're doing a Suicide Squad movie It's unrelated No one in that is gonna be in Justice League
[00:05:21] But Bartman's in it For a second And Flash is in it And he punches the woman in the face No Flash is in Batman vs Superman And in Suicide Squad Oh yeah I guess like one second Captain Bummerang But that's the first time you saw Flash
[00:05:36] No no no the first time you see him is in Batman vs Superman No he's in costume He's in his weird future costume when he comes through the pod Yeah whatever Yeah so it just but I mean And then they're like Now we'll do Justice League Yeah
[00:05:50] We have Batman We've established him And they did the Wonder Woman movie They've established him in media res They've gone like Here's a Batman who's existed for a while We're not really gonna Batman Wine and Dying Wonder Woman we've established her She showed up in Batman vs Superman
[00:06:02] She got her own movie Right Aquaman We've done no work on him We've seen him on a cell phone video Cyborg We've done no work on him Cell phone video Cell phone video Nightmare Captain Bummerang And Superman's dead so we're gonna have to bring him back
[00:06:14] So essentially they instead of just the easy task of like Everyone we know comes together It's more like a guy we know and a girl we know Meet three people we don't know And then revive a fourth person we don't know
[00:06:25] I mean we kind of that we do know Correct That's a that's a lot of story It's a big task And I'll say I kept on having the feeling watching this movie Ben and I saw it last night Yeah I saw the press screening on
[00:06:41] Producer Ben and I saw it last night Producer Ben and I saw it last night The Ben Dooser and I saw it last night Yeah The Haas saw it with me last night And Mr. Positive and I saw it last night With Dra Dra Milligan John Braylock
[00:06:56] And Tessa Hirsch Tessa Claire Hirsch You heard two of those three people on last week's episode Correct Yep Correct so they're real fresh in the noggin But yeah those three people Saw it with myself And also the Fert Detective The meat lover The peeper
[00:07:18] The poet laureate or finest film critic So can wet Benny, dirt bike Benny Birthday Benny, the tie breaker I was surprised David I really like Cyborg We're gonna talk about Cyborg Dra wished him a hello fennel Okay They did Okay But then Bray Yeah Called him Professor Crispy
[00:07:36] And I got mad Cause I'm Not a professor Nor am I Crispy It was a problem But then Tessa Who's lovely She pointed out something Praise fiance said no he's the fuckmaster And I don't say that for professional experience And maybe Griffin is now back into a corner
[00:07:55] Because I was the last one to speak And it sounds gendered You made a huge mistake I'm sorry Griffin I was gonna say that Tessa pointed out The graduate of certain titles Of the course of different mini-series Well no, I pointed that out Why don't we flip it
[00:08:08] Tessa apology accepted I'm glad that you said that out loud So everyone knows that I wasn't Meeting anything By the distribution Can you just wrap this up I'm getting out of here Graduate of certain titles Of the course of different mini-series Kylo Benprous Ben Kenobi Ben Achaumalan
[00:08:22] Ben Sate Say Benny thing Ailey Benz with a dollar sign Sure Warhaz Warhaz Purdue Urbane And then also of course B19 the final maker Ben 19 the final maker Damn right We saw the movie And you went to a critic's screen Because you're fancy, humble Brad
[00:08:42] I went to a critic's screening I sat with the past and future guest Esther Zuckerman I said Martha to who are a lot Throughout Was this a New York film Critic circle screener No But I am Let's give you a round of applause
[00:08:56] Fuck, this is the first episode Chronologically we're recording Thank you Since you went on vacation Since all this shit has happened I went on vacation And stayed very quiet Yeah you did not break the internet No I had one goal I said go on vacation
[00:09:08] Don't break the internet Leave internet Unbroken Unbroken Yes Angelina Jolie's unbroken Yes I did thank you Ben I did make the New York film Critic's circle Which is really exciting We'll be voting a few days After this episode of posts On our best films of the year
[00:09:24] So will you be when we're Shout out to past and future guest Richard Lawson For mentoring me In terms of my application When we do our Blankies episode Or our Blinky Award episode Yeah Will you be citing the things You voted for that year I guess so
[00:09:39] I mean like my winners Will be like whoever I voted for initially In the first round Right and then of course Candidates get eliminated And you kind of have to pick a Maybe you know You have to move your vote Maybe if you were
[00:09:53] First round you go Ray Fisher For Cyborg Round three you end up having To go Mamoa for Aquaman Yeah which is fine Good consensus pick Yeah My man So that's great No it was just a regular Warner Brothers Critics screening All the critics were there
[00:10:10] All our friends were there All many past guests on this Show were there Not to be sure They united the 71 Exactly That was estimating I was with Esther When someone said mother box I leaned over and I said Martha box
[00:10:27] I think I did a lot of shit like that When Batman How do you know that box Who are your boxes When Batman did that whole Moment like scene where he just Yells at everyone where he's like Do you think Steppenwolf's teaching ethics
[00:10:44] So he's like telling Wonder Woman There's even a fraction of a chance I leaned over I remember the day Damon Wains Came up to me And said I'm just going to do a jazz box I leaned over to Esther And I said he's mansplaining
[00:10:56] And Esther laughed out loud Well he's Batman's planing I just plus that you would have gotten One more comedy point if I had been there To punch her I'm your V'lange I feel like I had some other great bit With Esther We had a lot of bits
[00:11:11] Martha box though I'll say I said they're mostly in silence But speaking at the beginning of the film Now you guys started the Regal Union Square Correct How's it looking these days The Regal Union Square I've been there in a while Pretty solid I saw Zero Rats
[00:11:23] Plused it lately They haven't like They haven't done the like The AMC Times Square thing Where they like put in some recliners No Nothing like that Oh no the aisles are so narrow We had a hard time It was like an airline Which theater area The big one
[00:11:37] The really big one The balcony Yes correct And I got the tallest man Sitting in front of me Yeah He was 6'5 Very tall man And he also then put his hair Into a man bun Ugh I went to see the square Ruben Oslohn's The Square Yeah
[00:11:54] Which you didn't like I thought it was okay She thought it was okay Did I tell you that? No I think I saw on your letter box That you had put it kind of low on your list Oh Oh you keep tabs Oh I keep tabs
[00:12:04] I'll say this You know because I know Blankies would sometimes Like want to look at my letter box And be disappointed that it was not High or low Was not maintained very well I've become very diligent with the letter box
[00:12:16] You've gotten better because you're trying to keep track Of everything So you know just feel free to check in I got some hot takes on things like the Boss Baby Which I watched on an airplane Which you were like initially very into The first 30 minutes I was like
[00:12:27] Why are these fucking assholes not telling me That the Boss Baby is a masterpiece And then a stunning thing happens A shocking completely unexpected thing happens The movie continues It turns out that concept cannot sustain A feature length film Stunning I was totally caught off guard
[00:12:43] First 30 minutes of Boss Baby Rule though Okay well I haven't seen it It's like a fucking UPA cartoon It's like Gerald McBoyne block I gotta catch up because The critics have an animated feature Category And this is not a fantastic year for animated
[00:12:58] I have seen three animated movies I like Period Sure but none you like loved My number one movie of the year Is called the Lego Batman movie 3D So you are a turd my friend You have proven yourself to be a real Lego Richard T. Joker
[00:13:15] I mean that honestly might be my number one Animated movie of the year Because your name is my number one That's my number two but it technically was released last year In LA Right But not in New York So I'm gonna have to ask
[00:13:26] I think for your critics group you're good But for the Oscars it qualified last year Which sucks It did which was annoying It's like a dumb move they pulled Because I think it would have got nominated this year It might well have What one last year?
[00:13:35] Last year was Zootopes Zootopes Anyway Captain Underpants is good Yeah you kinda like that one I like that a lot Those are the three I liked The Boss Baby I was watching First 30 minutes I was like We got ourselves a nominee And then Oh boy
[00:13:51] That baby will not stop bossing Yeah I don't like it I'm not into it No good very bad don't do it Reggae Ralph was good I know that's an old movie I saw it recently though Ben lost his fucking mind Ben lost his fucking mind
[00:14:03] Started texting me at 3 o'clock in the morning Because he knew I'd be away I think we might talk about this on a later episode I can't remember We can still talk about it Ben got very impassioned about the glitches In the world
[00:14:12] Started identifying people we know as glitches Or I'm sorry No identifying people we know as King Candies Yeah Saying that they would not hesitate to call us a glitch Turn your phone off I just did It's an 800 number once I get a lot of those It's very annoying
[00:14:30] Hold on one second let me pick this up Hello? He actually picked it up Ben it's King Candy What? He said he wants me to tell you that you're a glitch Unite the seven No Yeah So King Candy is in this movie
[00:14:43] Yes King Candy is one of the seven Oh man it wasn't great in this movie when they united the seven So when this movie Justice League is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg And Alfred Yeah Alfred Yeah that's it Yeah yeah yeah
[00:15:01] Alfred is Wayne is the seven I don't know Alfred is in the seven I mean he's involved Kind of yeah He's sitting on his desk What's his power? Good keyboard He's got one really good sweater Have you noticed he's born the same sweater Yeah In both BBS
[00:15:17] How much do you think J.R. Ernest is pulling down? Here's a real question There was someone I was trying to Fuck who is the person I was trying to wonder Oh how much does J.K. Simmons get for this movie I don't know if you enter grand
[00:15:29] He signs up for this He's an Oscar winner He signs up for this right after Whiplash Yeah After he wins Don't talk about him getting swole though Cause he is out here denying that those pictures of him lifting Yeah Were for Justice League
[00:15:43] He said they were just basic body movements He's like I'm just keeping fit I just want to be swole Yeah He said he saw lady killers thought he looked really fat And was like ever since then I want to be swole I mean good for you J.K.
[00:15:54] He looks a little aggro in those pictures of him lifting But yeah Yeah, J.K. A. all the while But I think No I'm not going to talk about the swole thing Sure But I do think This was one of his first Sure His first gig Right
[00:16:09] It's taken a while to come out Yeah And when I saw the opening of the movie The credits are starting I was like Astonished that he didn't get the and Cause there's no and in this movie It's just with No with No there was a with
[00:16:22] I'm sorry I could have sworn there was a with I believe there was nary A with Nor an and And I will say here You're probably Joe Morton didn't get a with No He got At a certain point it goes from single card billing To shared card billing
[00:16:37] And then it's a couple groups of three But no withs, no ands Joe Morton I think was on a shared card Of three With Amber Heard I'm making a grimacing face right now Connie Nielsen got single card billing She did
[00:16:52] I'll tell you the billing as I remember it Because it's astonishing I know the billing Number one Baflak Ben Affleck Number two Henry Cavill What but he is dead How can he be in this movie? Seniority baby Superman is dead He will be dead forever
[00:17:06] No come on now How is he Spoilers Number three though This is where it gets wild Five-time Academy Award nominee Amy Adams Amy Adams gets in right above Gal Gadot Number four Ezra Miller No no no Gal Gadot's number four Oh I'm sorry Gadot four
[00:17:22] Ezra Miller number five Six Momoa Correct Seven Fisher Eight Hines Irons Nine Connie Nielsen Diane Lane I remember Connie Nielsen being weirdly high I believe she's tenth And then I think it's Simmons And then I think it's Hines
[00:17:41] I don't think either of them got a with or an and Maybe not I remember not seeing withs nor ands No alsos No alsos No those But What if that Joe Morton But Robin Wright Robin Wright was not in this She is in this she's credited
[00:18:00] Did you see her in the movie? She is in the battle scene for like Half a second They probably just put her face on someone Or something Bizarre Bizarre She probably got 50 grand Good for her Okay cool But yeah No withs nor ands
[00:18:16] I was like JK Simmons didn't get the and That feels like a An iconic and part A perfect and role is Commissioner Gordon But he doesn't do anything in this movie He doesn't do anything in this movie No no I think he got a mill
[00:18:30] I think he got a mill But I think he originally did more than So this movie has a reported budget of $300 million which made one of the most expensive Films ever made It's all on the screen It's all on Steppenwolf Where? Where on the screen is it?
[00:18:43] There's this scene where they just drive past Like this big briefcase full of money A pile of money I didn't see that Well here's No but David here's the thing with this budget Yeah yeah yeah $300 million for one movie Eesh that's expensive
[00:18:56] But it's actually kind of a bargain When you factor in that they shot this movie Two and a half times Yeah they did shoot this movie a couple times 300 for two and a half movies isn't terrible They got it right the second time
[00:19:04] But if that's the case then each movie was like 52 minutes long or whatever No I think they shot two and a half Two hour movies I think they shot two and a half Two hour 30 movies So let's just sort of I mean everyone knows or I think
[00:19:20] A lot of listeners probably know Okay BVS Don Justice is announced The title is clearly a nod to We're building out this universe Because after Man of Steel it wasn't clear If they were going to try to do any of the character Yeah but then they were like
[00:19:31] Why don't we have Justice Dawn in this movie Everyone was saying like You know what I'd love to see Justice Just kind of crest the mountain And Dawn As they're producing BVS Snyder starts releasing photos Oh here's the first look as Moa Because they start casting the people
[00:19:50] Yeah yeah yeah they cast Moa Hashtags on them Unite the seven Okay clearly what they're ramping up here is They could do Justice League movie Cast all these actors We don't know how large the roles are going to be In this movie Kado, Miller, Fisher Yeah
[00:20:03] They're all there Yeah yeah they're all there We're uniting the seven And then BVS comes out Nod People generally aren't crazy about Makes a lot of money It makes a decent amount of money It gets very bad reviews And it's It comes out was it February or March
[00:20:25] It comes out in March It's a March Yeah come Sure And Right after it comes out Yeah They're already shooting this movie They start shooting this film I think within six weeks Of BVS being released And so A lot of my friends or some of my pals
[00:20:43] Including for sure I think Past guest Mike Ryan Okay Humblebrack Went to the set of this movie in London Yeah And they all wrote their sort of set visit story This was like a sort of thing where Snyder made it clear Brighter Funnier Lighter Yes we're trying
[00:21:01] We understand that people didn't love Just how oppressively dark Batman Superman was So yeah like we got jokes They show them a reel that I think includes That maybe was centered around the scene Where Batman throws the Batarang at the flash
[00:21:15] And he catches it and they have like banter And so they were kind of like Trying to be like Hey hey hey we know the narrative And we're trying to sort of address it And like you guys all criticize my movie
[00:21:26] And I wanted to look you in the face And like you know Not be a jerk about it And like I remember everyone coming back From that set visit not being like Oh Justice League is going to be great But at least being like
[00:21:38] Well they seem to at least know They're listening They're not like head in the ground BVS was great You know like Well let's say the script was already Had long been written right? Chris Terrio Academy Award winner Had written the script The original plan as they announced it
[00:21:52] Was they were going to shoot Two Justice League movies back to back They were going to do it like Avengers 3 and 4 Which talk about jumping the gun right? And they were going to make them kind of Two half movies A sort of prelude movie with Steppenwolf
[00:22:03] That leads to Dark Side at the end Of the first one And the second one would be The big Dark Side movie At a certain point Dark Side is sort of the big bad The sort of Thanos-esque I mean Thanos is a rip off of him
[00:22:14] In fact like DC villain He's like this sort of godlike being At a certain point they go too much too fast Let's ice the second one for a little bit Not rush into it They never announced that It just kind of dropped off the schedule
[00:22:26] Because DC has had so many movies On and off the schedule They've been like We're definitely doing Black Adam I don't know Before? No after Shazam No before Shazam So they have a lot of untitled movies on the Yes But they have the script
[00:22:44] And they very quickly try to change the movie But it's not putting lipstick On a pig but it's trying to Dress a pig up to look like a doc It's just kind of the classic thing That they've done this whole time
[00:22:55] Where they just seem to be making a movie Two movies too early every single time And also really like Writing the movie on their feet Like coming, strategizing After the big decisions have been made With no sense of big picture Planning Yeah it's like they hand you
[00:23:13] A bit of ham And they're like there's your sandwich One second because you're like Oh it's not and they're like No no no it's fine And they sort of slide a bread under it And they're like no it was always a sandwich Right and you also go like
[00:23:23] But now I'm holding loose meat Which is the antithesis of a sandwich The whole reason a sandwich exists Is I don't want to hold loose meat in my hands And they're like just fucking take the meat right now We'll bring you bread later We know you want bread
[00:23:35] We'll get the bread eventually Yeah right Hold your horses And now right it's more Yeah they give you like a ham And then the next time they're like No we got plenty of bread We got bread They give you like a five bread sandwich
[00:23:46] Like this is too much bread Like no no no Then they take tape and they tape it together for you Yeah exactly Like it's great it's great it's great And then they take some out And they're like no no we got a chipotle now
[00:23:57] You know like you know we changed it Would you like chipotle mayo And you're like yeah eventually But once I have the bread I don't want to have chipotle mayo Dripping on my hands Well I'll put it in your mouth It's fine Which so the option is either
[00:24:07] I put the chipotle mayo in my mouth Now the sandwich has to meet it later Or I don't get it at all Or no I know forget it There won't be chipotle mayo But 2018 There's a whole mayo movie What? We're gonna do just all mayo
[00:24:20] You'll find out how they added the chipotle Yeah right right right But the sandwich will be done at that point Fine okay I will either eat the sandwich Or the sandwich will have rotted Oh god So So they definitely shot this movie last year Early last year
[00:24:37] Right exactly Cause they had like a lot of stuff to show at Comic Con They were shooting this film in like April of last year Right and then yeah They had a whole sizzle reel at Comic Con And again very like funny
[00:24:47] And wasn't just like oh here's the one scene we've shot Like it was a lot of stuff And that came out They've had trailers for the last year plus Yeah they have And then You know there were rumors swirling Oh they're gonna do extensive reshoots
[00:25:03] They're gonna do extensive reshoots This big bombshell story comes out This March or April It was May 2017 Okay so it's about a year after they started filming the movie Yeah and they're in post production Right that Zach Snyder has stepped off of the movie Yes
[00:25:19] When the film is ostensibly done And just in post production That's what everyone had been led to believe Right Because his daughter had committed suicide Yeah this terrible tragedy in his family And of course his wife is his producing partner Yes
[00:25:33] And is like a key part of the whole Snyder thing She's in charge of those movies just with him Right and the thing I never knew They're stepping away They have a lot of kids Some of them are adopted And some I think are from a previous marriage
[00:25:46] I believe this daughter was from His previous marriage I think It doesn't really matter Anyway they have a very large family He's very involved with his family Yeah this terrible thing happened to him So he steps away Right And Joss Whedon
[00:25:58] Joss Whedon had already been hired for like Some sort of script polish or something Right but also they brought him into the DC fold They had brought him in with this idea Of he'll do a back girl movie Great pick
[00:26:09] Have you been reading the new back girl comic? No It's great I mean I like back girl Back girl of Burnside fucking rules And there is a good movie to be made out of The most recent incarnation of back girl Um correct That's my hot take
[00:26:24] That's fine I'm just not sure Whedon's the guy But whatever Whedon's making it I guess Who knows with DC And then in July Yes And to be clear right now it's November Yes When we're talking Yeah In July they announced there's going to be Two months of reshoots
[00:26:42] July, August, September So that's A wild Right Cause originally it was like oh he's going to do A little rewriting Yeah Maybe a little re-editing No any movie like this is going to have Maybe a week or two of reshoots Exactly any movie like this I think standard
[00:26:57] With the contract Your actors will have like two weeks of reshoots built in Yeah And like A ten million dollar budget maybe for reshoots This costs like twenty five at least Like reported Sure And for the reshoots it was two months worth Yeah
[00:27:14] And most importantly Henry Cavill had a mustache Okay So let's talk about this Because he was shooting Mission Impossible 6 Which is not a Warner Brothers movie No And so Paramount was like They had him in first position You cannot shave your mustache
[00:27:27] But here's the other crazy aspect to that He certainly had a break in scheduling Because Tom Cruise broke his ankle On Mission Impossible Sure Paramount said we're only going to be down for like six weeks So he can't shave the mustache
[00:27:43] Because he won't have time to shoot all your stuff And grow it back Right And we need it for continuity Yeah And we're going to be back shooting in six weeks Yeah Mission Impossible has still not resumed filming And it's coming out next summer? Yes Okay Alright Okay
[00:28:02] Next July I guess I have time Has been longer than expected I'm old Maybe they're just starting again now They could have shaved his mustache And it would have grown back in time Right But Paramount was jerk about it Jerk? First position
[00:28:17] They had their right to do that That's what they did So the final announcement is The movie's coming out It is a Zack Snyder film He gets soul directing credit Joss Whedon will get a writing credit With Chris Terrio Sure So you know I'm sure that Whedon
[00:28:32] Who has throughout this process Been like this is Zack's movie Not my movie I'm just helping Yeah You know Made no fuss about trying to get a director's credit I'm sure he had no interest in it But let's just state this, okay Yeah
[00:28:45] In terms of like writer's guild credits The arbitration that usually goes into Who gets credits And the WGA is crazy And their rules are crazy But a big thing they have is If you rewrite a script In that you take the script And you rewrite every scene
[00:29:00] You polish the dialogue You tighten it up You don't qualify for a credit on the movie Even if you've affected every scene Yeah, there needs to be more of a substantial You have to create new stuff Whole cloth Right So in order to get a co-writing
[00:29:14] On that credit He needs to have created 40% Of the script as it shows up on screen Bam Which means his rewrites Which are what he re-shot Were at least that substantial Right Another thing I find very interesting Is at a certain point Memes started going around
[00:29:34] From the more recent trailers Love a meme Memes Unite the memes Meme Who are your memes? I remember one time I didn't want to say I was going to do jazz meme There were memes I saw going around Where people did side by side photo comparisons
[00:29:50] Of moments from the more recent trailers And ads Yeah, yeah, yeah That seemed weedany Weedanesk if you will You know how that whatever dialogue Kind of shrugging Right, okay? Yeah And compared it to the earlier trailers Side by side and said Look, the lighting styles look different
[00:30:09] Because they're very different visual filmmakers Yeah, yeah, yeah Weedanesk a lot more workman-like Yes Put the camera in the right place Shoot it A whole visual motif that he loves Very deliberate compositions And saturations And all of that, right? I mean this movie still felt more sex-centered
[00:30:26] Than the other ones I mean, it's a bit of a different story But yes They were doing these side by side comparisons Look how different from scenes that are Shots that are sensibly in the same scene Right? What's your point? I watched this movie Yeah
[00:30:40] And a lot of the things that we know For a fact Because we'll never know exactly what was shot by No, we will not I mean unless they come out and say But a lot of things we know for a fact Were shot by Snyder
[00:30:49] Because they were in that first San Diego reel Feels like it has been recolored timed Yeah, no, for sure You can tell at certain points like That's a Snyder angle That's a Snyder composition Here's my hot take Snyder stuff looks better I agree Yeah
[00:31:02] He's a better visual filmmaker Unquestionably I mean he's I think it's I don't think he's a I think it's just more He has his thing He has a thing And this movie kind of lacks a thing I don't think his thing is good
[00:31:14] I tend to not like it But at least it's a thing It's a thing Whereas this movie's kind of He has immense control over his visual style Whether or not you like that style Aesthetically it's not my favorite thing No, it's terrible Because I think Zack Snyder's big
[00:31:26] Decision for the finale Was going to be like It's all red And then Weedon was kind of like Red Yeah, exactly He's like it's red And Weedon's like It can be red You know, it's just sort of Like a little less red There's another aspect to this too
[00:31:40] Talking about the movie not having a thing Which is a movie that is This Reliant on CGI Where you shoot all of it In green screens in July Yeah, right You're really rushed And the thing just kind of looks sloppy And I would find even within scenes
[00:31:53] There would be like a look And then suddenly there's one Like you're going in coverage Between Batman and Flash And then suddenly one of the shots Looks really weird And it's literally like They were like, oh we came with A new joke to add in Yeah, you know
[00:32:07] I mean you have more for this Than I do honestly I have an eye for this stuff I also just don't remember this movie I saw it like four days ago It does kind of evaporate It does I just like I sat down to write
[00:32:16] My review and I was like The fuck I'll say this I don't hate this movie Oh, okay I guess so I kind of shrugged at it No, I know No, I'm not that forgiving I went like whatever No, it's bad I think it's bad No, it's pretty bad
[00:32:32] But I'll say this Like something like Suicide Squad Or BVS I'm sitting there and I'm pulling My hair out And I'm like aggravated No, no, no, no Batman vs. Superman Is a way better movie than this movie Way better It is That movie has an idea
[00:32:47] That movie has this whole gothic dawn Of the Ubermensch It has a thing Sort of like insane idea Yes It has a wonderful opening sequence Agreed And it has, you know It's very extra I guess This movie sucks It just kind of sucks I'll say this
[00:33:06] This movie is exactly what I thought Avengers was going to be Right, but then Avengers was good But I remember in the Wind Up to Avengers I went there's no way That's a fucking movie All these Marvel movies They've been pushing them all Into this like very bland
[00:33:20] How style to make them all Fit in with each other And I think that's going to backfire Now I don't think the characters Have been built up well enough That it will be that exciting To see them all together And I also just felt like
[00:33:32] It's going to feel like A fucking season finale of a TV show It's just going to feel like Mush Mush And then it ended up being One of the more functional screenplays In a blockbuster film last time And then of course That's probably what they're thinking
[00:33:45] When they're bringing Weedon on board Where it's like Weedon's good with the team He's a team-y guy He did a great job On a tough project of the Avengers Unite the Seven Can we do it? We had to unite the Seven But do you remember
[00:33:58] Have you ever heard like Dan Harmon's rant About doing punch up for DreamWorks animation Yes, I have Where they brought him in For Kung Fu Panda And they were like So we've already started animating Yeah 80% of the movie has to be locked Right We have 20% of money
[00:34:12] Put aside to either You can either pick 20% of the movie That you want to change whole cloth Or you can change 20% of each scene Right So if Kung Fu Panda is like Walking downstairs and he has a bucket Is there something funnier That could be in the bucket?
[00:34:27] That's the example he always throws out That they said to him Yeah, I vaguely remember Is there something funny That could be in the bucket? And that feels like the position They put Weedon into Where it's like You can shoot like 20% nude scenes
[00:34:37] Or like in this one scene Can you think of one funny joke To put in Which is where that discrepancy In the visual style comes in That I saw Where it's like You know the run That the flash has about brunch? Yeah, yeah, of course Yeah
[00:34:52] Ezra Miller's hair looks totally different No, no, that's obviously an addition In that one shot Because that is Can you add in one more joke To this scene Because that is in the scene That they were hyping from The beginning The Batman meets Flash scene And yeah, obviously
[00:35:05] Weedon was just like Let's just dial this up a little more And let me add in one more joke I have this whole joke Where he's in brunch And then you look him at that And he has the haircut he has In Fantastic Beasts
[00:35:14] Which was filming the same time as this Fantastic Beasts 2 That was the whole thing They were like negotiating Everyone's schedules So it's like Well, yeah I understand your logic Of wanting to hire Weedon to do it But you can't hire him After you've finished shooting the movie
[00:35:29] But that's what they did And that's what they did And that's the movie we've got And I think we should talk about the movie Okay, so the movie opens With Henry Cavill's Completely animated face Yes, it does That's the cell phone scene Right We totally forgot about that
[00:35:45] That's the opening That's a Weedon idea 100% But what are the kids doing? They're interviewing Superman For a podcast Is it for a podcast? Oh I didn't know if it was for Competish Oh, the two kids So we see him on screen And he's talking
[00:36:04] And his face looks like A Snapchat filter Yeah, but they're getting away with it I guess because it's like Well, it's a cell phone camera But already looks weird Especially when he smiles I kind of like that though I mean not how he looks He looks weird
[00:36:16] I mean I just liked their little Cell phone scene Oh, I like they were all Well-acted Yeah I just like where he's like It should be like a river You know, like he's trying to Explain the meaning of his emblem But you know how
[00:36:28] When you use a Snapchat filter It tries to keep up with your face But it's like a second behind In lag time The physics aren't like totally right Because like the dimensions of your face Might be different than God forbid Bob Marley's face You know
[00:36:42] This feels like that Where it's like your mouth moves Differently if you have a mustache So even if you paint the mustache out His upper lip is behaving differently It looks weird And I turn to draw Milligan And I just go like
[00:36:54] Fuck, this is gonna be a problem And he just went This is gonna be rough It's like immediately The mustache thing is drawing And this is already when It's like filtered through Cell phone video footage Yeah So then the movie starts And
[00:37:13] I got kind of excited by this For first Batman scene What's the first Batman scene? It's Hulk McElhaney Yeah On a rooftop as some petty criminal Trying to run away Yeah, he's playing the great DC character Cube Man Yes Because Hulk McElhaney is a cube
[00:37:29] He's a cube on a cube Yup, cube on a cube Serious a cube We did this I think we did On the pod Jack Reacher Oh yeah Never go back And now he's mind hunting Now he's mind hunting And he's monster truckin'
[00:37:44] Well, he smokes so much in mind hunter Every scene he's in He's smoking a cigarette It was the 70s baby They smoked Yeah Does he smoke like a cube? Cigarette I don't know I don't know Ah yeah So he hunts Batman like hunts Hulk McElhaney
[00:38:00] But it's kind of It felt very Batman The Animated Series to me It felt very heightened and very stylized Without being overly dark It felt kind of light and fun But you have the super gothic Gotham architecture Which is nice to see after
[00:38:15] Like being in a Nolan verse Where everything's really grounded Even BVS has like A pretty grounded view of Gotham His stylization comes from how he Makes his images Not necessarily the art direction Of the city, you know And this was like A lot of Browns
[00:38:30] And he's like climbing on the walls And I was like This is kind of fun I like the way Batman's moving Like he's chasing a criminal Up inside the building Maybe this will just be goofy fun Like maybe this movie will be dumb But it will be like
[00:38:42] Goofy and comic booky And I won't give a shit Right And then it goes to like I'm just waiting for you To get to what then happens I can't even remember What the next scene after this is Is it maybe Lois Lane? No
[00:38:57] They go to her pretty fast No wait, finish the scene Oh oh He captures Hulk McElhaney To use his fear To lure a parademon Correct He then like splats the parademen Or he catches it with a net But then the parademen explodes He catches himself on fire
[00:39:11] He explodes And leaves behind an imprint Of three cubes None of this makes any fucking sense Hashtag the three cubes Hashtag the three cubes It's a proprietary advantage Martha Box Here's what really pisses me off Yeah Here's what Batman does after that Leaves He leaves He doesn't capture
[00:39:28] Hulk McElhaney the criminal And he goes to Alfred And he's like What do you think's going on With the symbol we keep on seeing The symbol Or he's talking to him over Maybe take the bank robber Or whatever the fuck Hulk McElhaney is Take him to jail
[00:39:39] You're Batman But Alfred says Hashtag unite the boxes And then the movie keeps on track I think then we go to Lois Lane And she's great Yeah, I think you have the Lois Lane Scene where it's like She's not ready to write a pool
[00:39:55] It's her prize winning article Yeah, what's she doing? She's kind of just She's sad You see the bank For closing on The Kent House You see a lot of Diane Lane And Amy Adams This is all Two Academy Award nominated actresses Two of our finest Two great actresses
[00:40:13] Screen actresses Okay, sure Amy Adams is like top The big problem Amy Adams is just killing it Diane Lane I think is really solid I love Diane Lane Yeah, I love Diane Lane Yeah Yeah, they're in this movie Almost feels ridiculous But whatever They're in it Yeah, sure
[00:40:28] And then I think pretty early on When Batman's on the rooftop He still says to Alfred Like what do you want to do next? And he's like I think it's time we unite the team Yeah, pretty much Right and then you see Alfred Pull up the headshots
[00:40:42] To be clear this movie is 118 minutes long It shrugs It's short This movie moves I guess so Kind of just walks I think It's more like it just doesn't walk very far I'd say this moves But this movie moves in the way
[00:40:55] That a kid riding a tricycle down Like the aisles of a Walmart moves Or it's like with no regard for anything around it And with no end goal of where to arrive Because the idea is I guess just Superman died Yes Bruce feels bad about that
[00:41:10] Cause it's like 80% his fault We've had two movies now where America cannot get over their grief At the loss of Superman Even though the two movies before That were about how much of a dick Superman was Now we hated him Whatever, they're mad about it
[00:41:23] Like Superman was Edward Snowden For two movies And now we're treating him like he's JFK Meanwhile Wonder Woman is busy at her Job dusting a giant statue Just dusting That first Wonder Woman action scene is kind of cool Well so that to me is Probably an added sequence
[00:41:40] Feels like they need to be for a Because it looks different Yes And it also just Exactly It has no relevance to anything No You think it's gonna Like this will be some Parademon stewed Right, she stops a heist Bruce Fulton But no, it's just like
[00:41:55] She just stops a heist Does like four Wonder Woman things You know, box and bullets Yeah, but and then Skids around But wasn't she supposed to since World War I Not been active So the idea is Now she's back No, no, no
[00:42:07] Because she showed up to fight Doomsday Right So now she's a little bit Back in the public eye And then Wonder Woman I can't believe you guys don't remember The wonderful epilogue And prologue of Wonder Woman Where she answers her emails Okay But she leaps out Right
[00:42:20] And that's her going to Do deal with this Specifically I don't know, why not So the idea is that She lay dormant Boarded a plane Saw on the plane Satellite TV that was Airing before the plane took off That Doomsday was attacking Yeah Rejoined The workforce Right Yeah
[00:42:45] And then after that Went back to her little office Decided I'm not gonna be a superhero again Until she got the briefcase From Bruce Wayne Which then Made her decide to permanently Become a superhero again Right I guess Right Ben Yeah You're saying correct?
[00:43:00] Yes, that's what he's saying Anyway, so that happens And then we get Miles Dyson I might be fucking up this word But who gives a shit Sure Miles Dyson from Terminator 2 Right He swore to never work For SkyNet again But clearly he went back On his promise Yeah
[00:43:17] Now he's working for Star Labs I guess Yeah You got your Star Labs Star Labs Industries And Hung up that endo arm For an endobody Yeah I don't know We saw it I guess You want me to put a record scratch in for that?
[00:43:33] Yeah, I saw this when we were 12 hours ago I mean In Batman vs Superman We saw this clip of him Playing with a mother box Right, cell phone footage And it kind of makes a cyborg Out of his son Yes, who had died Who had either died
[00:43:48] Or been horribly wounded All American football star Right, was near death Played by Ray Fisher Who is a total unknown And he's pretty good I liked him a lot Yeah, he's pretty charismatic For considering his whole arc In this movie as I Want to Die
[00:44:02] He did that play Where he got spotted I think it was the Ali Frazier play Yes, that would be correct Is that correct? Yes And off of that Everyone was like This guy might be a movie star And weren't brothers Signing him to like a five picture deal
[00:44:15] He had never been a movie before Good for him Cyborg Not historically a member of the justice League No, but more recently Correct He was a teen titan Yes That was his prominent role And he sort of became the elder Statesman of the teen titans
[00:44:29] He was like the big brother figure And in some of the I don't know, two of the three Most recent DC Universe reboots They sort of elevated him To be a list Justice League status Who, yeah Right, because John Stewart Who had been the sort of
[00:44:45] Diversity hire within the justice league It's that, but true DC always sort of makes that Right? Yeah Had stepped down Because they wanted to bring back to life Hal Jordan Who had been dead for a long time DC's fucking The most classic
[00:44:59] So then Cyborg got promoted to the big leagues Yeah But he's always sort of been shoehorned In there Because he doesn't sort of have The same stature as those guys He works better as a younger character The whole Cyborg thing works better As sort of a metaphor for
[00:45:13] Teen angst Development, you know So that was the character when they announced We're gonna make a Cyborg movie It was met with a lot of derision Ben and I had been making Cyborg jokes For like the last two years But from the moment this guy came on screen
[00:45:28] I was like, I like this guy He's an honest, natural Performer with a lot of gravitas Considering he's wearing a fucking Body-stocking brazen thing, you know Yeah, I mean first of all He's got a great voice He sounds like a fucking superhero Sure But I also think
[00:45:44] This is a thing I really like in actors When I feel like they're not Showing everything they got They don't need the They don't feel the need to put it all on the table They're holding something back And he could have gone real big With this like
[00:45:56] I was dead, I'm a monster Right, right, truly, right And I feel like he's pretty pulled back In this which I liked a lot And the opening chunks of the movie When he's in his sort of disguise When he's wearing his sweatpants over it
[00:46:11] And you're just seeing the red glowing through I was like really into him In all these scenes When he takes the sweatpants off And then he's just CGI goop man It becomes very hard to discern a performance That he's not very interested His face looks like it's floating
[00:46:24] As like an action hero He's not very interested Cyborg's not that interesting He's a cyborg who gives a shit Yeah, it's kind of 1992 Like where they're like Ooh, a cyborg But he's a robot He's a fibrinetic organific Right Also in like the comics and the cartoons
[00:46:39] And that's the other thing Cyborg's very popular now Because Teen Titans Go is very popular But that character is very fun He's a vuncular He's kind of like op-man Yeah, I haven't watched that I assume that's one of the animated shows
[00:46:50] Where it's like those are actually really good And everyone's like DC should really think about Like it's TV and it's animation Like when trying to come up with It's movies They've done two good Teen Titans cartoon shows Yeah In both of them Cyborg's like the big brother character
[00:47:04] He's kind of the fun loving guy He's sort of worked through His pain at his whole Frankenstein complex But also he is a cyborg He is part man, part machine Like he has a lot of exposed flesh He still has human bits
[00:47:19] Do we have to talk anymore about cyborg? In this the only part of him that's human Is like a fan of the opera mask Yeah exactly Exactly it's one third of a face Right otherwise he's 100% Rubbit This movie is like top to bottom Full of Flubber
[00:47:35] Flubber as we defined it You guys who haven't listened back to it In our Events of the Sith episode Where it's just like weightless CGI Guk that's just like bouncing around Is brightly colored and feels like it has No substance, no weight, no impact Right
[00:47:48] And like from the way his body moves Yeah To like the composition or the compositing And all these things that feel kind of Reshot in a green screen that they have to insert into Like a lot of scenes start with A master shot, a wide shot
[00:48:01] A group shot In a real set that feels real And then the second they cut into coverage It's like this was shot a year and a half later The screen is so bad in this movie The movement a lot of times looks like
[00:48:10] Someone's clicking and dragging it with a mouse Right And that gets to The video game cutscenes in this movie Starring the world's greatest supervillain Steppenwolf Dark sides, Uncle Steppenwolf The threat so large you must unite the seven Steppenwolf And he looks like he's straight out of
[00:48:32] Injustice 2 Gods Among Us Right Every one of these scenes just looks like So this is why the movie is just Putrid in my opinion Because There's absolutely no stakes What so ever to this movie The only stake in this movie is Will The Justice League Yeah Come together
[00:48:51] It's not will they come together Come together Right now Remember when they used that in the trailer In the movie too, it's in the credits It's Junkie XL It's not Will they come together to defeat this great crisis Yeah No, Steppenwolf is like Immediately obviously like
[00:49:12] No big deal He just wants to put three boxes together And in the comics the mother boxes are like Very powerful But they're not the infinity stones It's not like if you put the three together The world will end It's just like This is a fucking thing
[00:49:23] This is what's so maddening about this movie It's like they did everything It's so macguffin-y It feels almost mean to Compare to Marvel But it's like they did all the Marvel shit And they kind of just did a slightly worse job Like ding dong Infinity stones Mother boxes
[00:49:37] Ding dong Who's at the door And will you get the The door quickly Uh, hi, what's up Uh, hello is uh David here Yeah, it's me Yeah Sim? Do you expect someone Uh, maybe I don't know Okay guys, I'm gonna go to the bathroom
[00:49:57] All whatever's about to happen plays out David David, it's me It's me detective Dorma From Christopher Nolan's insomnia Sure Pacino himself No, detective Dorma Will Dorma Pilar Gobbage Yeah Roger, Roger Uh huh David I need your help Uh, okay I can't sleep I got insomnia
[00:50:23] It's tough to sleep sometimes Especially when it's light out there I mean, hotel room and they gave me A bag of rocks Put your alarm clock in the drawer I did it Okay, okay Still not sleeping well Duck tape pillows to the window David Uh, okay
[00:50:39] I cannot sleep Well, what do you think about If you could get like A new mattress delivered That's sort of like in a box Like the size of a mini fridge What? It's like a really small Like how did they fit it in there Kind of size box
[00:50:55] Did you read my mind They'll, and you're in Nightmute Alaska Correct They'll ship it to the hotel Of course But David, David I can't believe you predicted that Because I was going to say The biggest conflict I have right now Oh my God The reason they're giving me
[00:51:09] A bag of rocks to sleep on Is the door to my hotel room Is the size of a mini fridge All that can get in or out Is a mini fridge I got a needle I got a walk on my knees You're telling me this box
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[00:52:11] Like a, how did they do that size box How do they do that Look David I got to be honest with you Okay, Will Something's been keeping me up Sorry, I'm sorry Detective Dormer Thank you Respect the title No I'm talking to a member of the LAPD
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[00:53:10] So it's not hot Because remember how like back in the day The foamy mattresses they were hot Oh, too hot Not hot anymore Look, I got one You got one Yeah And I think it's been great It's got the right firmness It's got the right bounce
[00:53:24] It's not hot It's breathable Not like when I was in the devil's advocate And if I don't like it Too hot Yeah, that was too hot I was sitting No, wait, you're Will Dormer to be clear Yes No, and it's... If you don't like it You have 100 days
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[00:54:16] You know, he's the .8 I'm interested though in that right now Is there like some kind of special deal Or something that we're offering To Detective Dormer potentially So are fans listening to this episode? Yeah, look I don't know the stuff Unless I got a unique URL
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[00:55:19] And developed and assembled in the USA Ooh that's what I like Because I'm a jingoist Alright And would he like the fact That you can just try it out What? Test your performance Okay And if you don't like it, you can get rid of it
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[00:55:49] I'm sorry, I know I promised that I was going to do the ad read He's a sleepy guy I'm sorry that I came out to the bathroom I'm so tired Let me sleep Let me sleep Why are you saying my line Let me sleep Alright
[00:55:59] I guess it's okay if he sleeps in the corner Detective Will Dormer sleeping in the corner Good night Dormer So Casper We got it all right Dormer is bleeding heavily Have you noticed this Let him sleep Let him go to casper.com Put in promo code check
[00:56:15] And let him sleep He's so tired Terms of conditions apply He's a tie-tie boy He is a tie-tie boy So anyway, Justice League Yeah, Stefan Wolf Our greatest film Played by Kieran Hines An actor We talked about many times on this podcast He was in Munich He was
[00:56:33] Trying to think about their movies The weight of water Yes he was He was on the USA original series Political Animals With one Will Dormer Griffin Newman Characters were not welcome Because it got the lowest ratings Of any USA show in 10 years It really did
[00:56:52] I remember being on set with Academy Award nominee Dan Futterman Who was on that show For screenwriting Yes, twice nominated I believe for Foxcatcher and Capote You got a Foxcatcher nom? I think he did Maybe I'm wrong about that Let me look it up
[00:57:06] Emax Frye and Dan Futterman Shared credit on that film Yes they did Did he get the nom? Was he nom? Yes, original screenplay Can you name the five nominations That film got? Five Best actor Steve Carell Best supporting actor Mark Rufalo True Best director Bennett Miller
[00:57:28] The craziest one Because it did not get on it for best picture Despite there being nine nominees Correct And the other nomination Would have been I've gotten four out of five You got four out of five Editing? Nope Cinematography Nope Think about what Foxcatcher had A lot of
[00:57:49] Wrestling True Makeup Yeah there you go Had a lot of nose Yeah that's the fifth Alright Keirin Hines who's a nice guy and Very good actor I'm sure he had a great time Collecting a check and doing some voiceover His voice through five filters
[00:58:08] Does not feel like he mocap this performance Because it feels very physically unfocused It doesn't feel like anyone mocap this You never know because I know Like they just do so much mocap these days But there's nothing in this guy's design In his face
[00:58:22] No it feels like a video game cutscene right When he's in these scenes like collecting the mother boxes It just feels like CGI goop Well also he's Yeah so what is Steppenwolf? Okay he has A general someone pointed out all the DC Universe villains have been generals
[00:58:36] Uh huh Which kind of says something weird Like it's Exod Danny Houston True Aries is like the general of war Yeah you're right Yeah yeah yeah And then it's always these like Suicide Squad that's it's not though It's Enchantress Oh right Enchantress General Enchantress Four out of five
[00:58:54] Yeah A future general Uh and uh yeah And then Doomsday is just Mutated generals out In BVS Good point Uh it's a very militant Cinematic Universe they're developing Um he is a general He is Darkseid's uncle But do they say that in the movie That he's Darkseid's uncle?
[00:59:14] No they don't That's his comic book origin Chris Yeah he's one of Kirby's new gods Yes Yes Uh which they kind of They say new god a lot in this movie I guess so and he mentions Darkseid once Yes I believe sort of in passing
[00:59:29] But that's sort of the whole idea is that The Amazons are the old gods He's trying to get rid of the old gods He wants to rise to the level of new gods He wants promotion He thinks uniting the boxes will do so But we get this flashback
[00:59:42] I'm trying to remember if it's It doesn't fucking matter who goes So there's this flashback Yeah Of like the last time Steppenwolf tried some shit And he killed everybody And it was like many ages ago Pulled a ring off a lantern And but it was like he
[00:59:56] Uh tried to unite the three mother boxes And so the worlds of men Yes Amazon And Atlantans United to stop him They did it We get this whole like CGI Lord of the Rings shit They each took a box There's a green lantern there A Martha box
[01:00:11] They each take a Martha box And they like put it away So it's like the Atlantans put it in Their Atlantis bank And the Amazons put it in some sort of Like an Amazon pyramid Yes And the humans bury it in a hole Yes Yes
[01:00:26] So it's very Lord of the Rings It's very Lord of the Rings It's like the Sauron opening It really is Like down to the sort of like Three realms uniting And like the humans It's kind of like Humans couldn't be trusted To actually deal with this
[01:00:37] Because one of them would just try to use it So we just buried it Right Uh and I guess I said this thing That the Atlantans and the Amazons Have a weird uneasy alliance But like fuck that They don't talk about it It's not So
[01:00:50] Okay sometime around now Now Batman, Bartman, I'm sorry Bartman is actively trying to Unite the seven He's going about And he goes to see Wonder Woman And she's kind of like It's happening The mother boxes are waking up Yeah it's too late It's already too late
[01:01:04] She said he's going to bring war And she says war is already here Well they did my favorite thing In superhero movies Because Wonder Woman finds out That it's going down Because they shoot the arrow Yes At this point Steppenwolf Has already stolen the boxes Right
[01:01:17] And they say The humans will not know What this means And then Connie Nielsen Says but she will But no I just love When they have newscasts They like superhero movies And it's just like Totally doesn't look real at all No It's ridiculous
[01:01:32] I always love to see who they got It's like Robocop level Like ridiculousness It's like Robocop Robocop which we'll never talk about Cyborg Cyborg is kind of a Robocop When you think about it I know And here's the thing I was saying this to Jorah
[01:01:45] Made me wish they made a physical suit For him because I think he moves too easily Because he's CGI goon Yeah but this is the Like sickness of modern film I know They'll never do it Because they're like fuck that That's complicated And I'll talk about it here
[01:01:58] Because we're never going to talk About it on a future episode But Robocop is you see how pain He is in every movement How uneasy that suit is for him How long ago did that movie come out? 30 years ago 30 years ago 30 years ago on the nugget Exactly
[01:02:11] It came out July Yeah 1987 So So we So I don't remember the order But here's the suit Well that's basically The thing to happen He goes to Wonder Woman They form their uneasy alliance Right But then we have this scene Where Steppenwolf attacks the Amazon Yes
[01:02:27] And there's a whole big scene Where he kills like a ton of them Uh-huh He sort of beams down from like a spaceship That we don't see Apparently Robin writes in it I guess so No, no she's in the flashback scene She's in the flashback wall Oh right
[01:02:42] Because that's when she would have been alive She's dead now That was Bray's big question is Who's teleporting him? We don't know We don't see it We don't see the ship he goes to Because that feels like something Where third act just was to go Haha dark side
[01:02:52] Yeah then they were like But instead it just seems like He's got teleportation powers Maybe Who cares Doesn't come up You know He just attacks with his paradiems He gets them other box He kills a bunch of Amazons But then like more Amazons Like the whole army
[01:03:05] Sort of comes And he's like alright I'll see you later Which also looks very Lord of the Rings You know it looks shit Looks like shit It looks Lord of the Lord of the shit Yeah okay Shit of the rings Can I just Because I don't remember
[01:03:17] What order these scenes happen Cause they're just fucking jumbled up In like a Doritos mix bag But uh Just a couple of things It's a bag of munchies right Yeah A couple of things that happen We see the flash Yeah we've seen the Socially awkward boy
[01:03:30] His dad's in jail For the murder of his mother Which he was falsely accused of Yes good casting Old Zach Snyder collaborator Yes But Critterpin and Miller I think is pretty good father son Sure It seems to work for me Yeah
[01:03:44] And he's going to visit his dad at jail Talking about trying to figure out the case And his dad's like You gotta move on You gotta move on You just gotta live your life Right We see Arthur Curry Uh AKA Aquaman Batman visits him first
[01:03:57] In like a fishing town Yeah in like Iceland or something And he's like I hear there's a guy who comes up to land And gives you fish And they're like Fuck you rich guy Like no one's coming in a boat in years And he goes
[01:04:07] He isn't coming on a boat And then he looks at the painting on the wall And it looks like Jason Momoa Arthur is in this scene the whole time He's translating the guy He's just there Right And then finally Bruce Wayne's like You're the Aquaman
[01:04:19] I heard you talk to fish And he's like My man My man Fuck you And he leaves Right Uh cause he comes back later Is this the part where he takes the ball of whiskey? Yeah probably And then drinks something Throws it on the ground
[01:04:32] Takes off his shirt He's in his slacks He's like done his tab Right and then he like Batman chases him out Bartman I'm sorry Chases him out to the water And he's half in the water And seeing that feels totally reshot Because They look really green screened
[01:04:45] In front of these like Whatever it's supposed to be Icelandic landscapes Sure And they have this conversation Where he's like Strong man, stronger alone That's not the same as the opposite of the same Which feels very weedy Right it does And It's just not working
[01:04:58] Cause it's not part of the movie's tone Which is sort of like We'll slip into sort of Joke your tone Refusal the call But who cares But here's another thing And at the same time Cyborg is refusing the call Cause Wonder Woman approaches him And he's like
[01:05:10] I'm a freak I'm a monster He's in his apartment He's like I keep getting firmware updates I can't believe He's upset That he keeps on getting new iOS updates All true Yes So those are like the basic instructions For all these characters None of them want to join
[01:05:24] What was the thing I was going to say The thing I kept on thinking about Watching this movie was Like the way the DC Universe is going about Constructing these characters And their mythologies Wonder Woman they were able to undo this Because the movie's a prequel Right Yes
[01:05:39] But it feels like They're dropping us in On the fifth date Okay In that like Your first date with someone Has like all this charge to it You know This is the fifth movie Right But I'm saying you have all this charge And you're meeting each other
[01:05:53] And you're finding the connection points And you're building that relationship To want to keep on seeing this person Yeah By the time you get to the fifth date It's less electrifying Right Because you've settled into something And hopefully it's become something more sustainable Yeah but
[01:06:04] But you need that first date To like Get you interested Do you know what I'm saying The first date was this movie About like General Zod That's my point Yeah My point is the entire way They've gone about all of this They skipped the first date
[01:06:15] And they just assume you like All these characters Well yeah and like Look it's It's hard to do Batman Over and over again right I get it You know I get why you'd want To do shortcuts sometimes Well but here's a key distinction for me
[01:06:26] I'm totally fine with them being like Here's Batman We're not doing origin story We're setting him up He's been in the universe for a long time You still have to find a way To make me like this Batman No It doesn't mean you have to start
[01:06:38] At the beginning with every character No he's a grumpy Most movies don't start With the character being born Yeah Or getting their job for the first time You know Yeah Most movies deal with the character At this phase in their life But you have to like
[01:06:49] Wine and dine me a little bit To get me on board with these characters And these movies don't do that They just assume Oh you like Aquaman right You're excited that Aquaman's finally in a movie My man He is my man But here's the thing
[01:07:01] It's a fifth date movie That's a fine read But they never give us the first date Like Ezra Miller Is pretty cute as the Flash I kind of liked him I could see enjoying an Ezra Miller Flash movie I'm biased He's an old friend of mine Yeah
[01:07:15] I like him a lot What's he doing? Horny Rob Horny Rob Yeah I was the summer camp counselor Do you know that I think I did We were like the John Wade and John Ford Of summer camp sketch comedy So how's he doing
[01:07:27] It seems to be doing well I haven't talked to him a little bit He's been busy He's been shooting a movie for four years I'd love to have him on the podcast And ask him about all this bullshit I would too
[01:07:36] I wouldn't phrase it to him that way And he's gonna be in a movie But they don't have a director So who knows when that's coming in And it was originally a Flash movie But now it's a Flash point movie Which is a whole different story line
[01:07:47] Where they sort of reset the universe Which makes people think they're going to use that To sort of recast other cast members Maybe But I mean to me it seems Like because everyone's like There's a lot of rumors today In fact on the internet That Jake Gyllenhaal is
[01:07:59] Gonna play the Bart man Ready to play Bart man In the Matt Reeves Bart man movie Which will be In which he will do the Bart man Yes And people are like Are they just gonna have him play Bruce Wayne Will he play someone else
[01:08:11] Or you know like Will he just be The Ben Affleck character New casting And to me it's like What do you mean Like you've already set up That Bruce Wayne in these movies Is kind of old and over it Have him retire Like fuck it
[01:08:24] I think that's the coolest thing they could do Then you can even have Ben Affleck You know come in if you need him To come in I think that's exactly what they should do And he should play Jason Todd Or something Yeah play
[01:08:33] No Jason Todd's dead in this Universe But what I'm saying is They could do They could make fucking red hood Part of some other movie And it allows them to pass the torch And then Jason Todd reveals Damien Wayne I don't give a shit what you do
[01:08:44] Like just have That's fine Like don't just do Where he's like Bruce Wayne But younger Like don't do that I think that would be Fucked I used to Ezra and I used to be on the improv team together And so I did comedy with Ezra
[01:09:00] That's what I knew him from doing And he has been cast a lot Playing like brooding intense Types Which he's very good at But I'm always very excited When I get to say him Be lighter and do comedy So this felt to me This character
[01:09:11] Is closest to like Perks of being a wallflower Of the stuff he's done Which I still think is his best performance Far and away I guess so Not a fan of that movie I think he's phenomenal in that movie He's good I think Kevin I guess
[01:09:24] Is my favorite Performance of his I think he's really good At playing very Avuncular misfits He was the gonzo He was the gonzo And we bore him I was going to say I like Ezra And I think I would enjoy a flash movie I like Jason
[01:09:41] And I think I could enjoy An Aquaman movie Although the Aquaman specific scene In this film Is one of the dodgiest He goes down to Atlantis We should actually get to that Because that's right around now He sees Amber Heard Who plays Mara They've set him up as
[01:09:56] Oh he spends half his time In the water Half his time in this bar But Amber Heard seems to be like Hey what's up Haven't heard from you in a while And you're like Where were you going underwater To the fish suburbs You weren't going home
[01:10:08] No one's seen you This scene is Completely incomprehensible It's nonsense And here's another thing that happens Because Jera and I were talking Before the movie And we were like How are they going to do A whole fucking Aquaman movie How are they going to do
[01:10:20] All the underwater stuff How are they going to have dialogue scenes This movie has Like just him kind of floating around Clearly in front of a green screen It doesn't really look weightless Right it doesn't really look Like swimming And it's like they put
[01:10:31] A water filter in front of it Yeah And then When he lands On this pedestal Mara Mara Mara Mara makes like a bubble Like a cone of silence She does From Get Smart And then they have their dialogue In an air bubble And it's like
[01:10:46] Is that how fucking every dialogue Seen in the Aquaman movies Going to go Are they going to have to make An air bubble every time They want to talk Probably not Because my guess is There will be some sort of Atlantean cities That have air bubbles Built in
[01:10:58] It'll be like Odoganga Yeah Right I like James Swan You got it I just pulled that out Odoganga Nice nice Like the younger ones Yeah And she's like Why have you left My mother Your mother Cared about you I don't know what the fuck is happening
[01:11:14] Is this his wife Is this his betrothed What happened to his mother What happened to his dad Yeah Where has he been I don't understand this scene at all And then there's this You know then So Steppenwolf I had to think for his name
[01:11:30] He steals a Martha box He shows up to steal their Martha box They have like a whole war scene Fight scene that looks even more bizarre And that's the like moment When Aquaman is like Okay I guess I'll join the justice league My man
[01:11:47] So at this point now I think Bartman has gone to go see The Flash He's a poor kid Whose dad's incarcerated His mom's in jail He's unemployed Because that comes in later That he gets a job for the first time Sure whatever Yeah at the crime lab
[01:12:02] He lives like Bruce Sir McLeod He lives like in some weird underground layer With a bunch of TV screens Yeah He lives in some crazy lab And he's got this super expensive looking costume He has a space shuttle design For his costume But look
[01:12:21] I don't know what the fuck he's supposed to do And he says he's like essentially He has this whole monologue about how Everyone's boring to him Because life is so fast Can't relate to people who can't figure out their rhythm Can't figure out their speed
[01:12:32] And Batman's like I want you to join He's like I'm in Yeah that's the joke Where it's like everyone else is kind of like No I have my demons And he's just like cool I need friends Brunch Brunch, brunch, brunch Brunch, brunch, brunch, brunch, brunch Which like
[01:12:48] All this would be more effective If there was like a functional flash movie About The Flash Not knowing how to work alone Honestly I don't mind it I don't mind it in this movie The Flash stuff works the best for me Just because it's like I get it
[01:12:59] I know what The Flash is like I'll say the Cyborg one is the one That bumps me out the most Because if they The Cyborg one has like so much back story So much back story That they can't get into And it's also like now
[01:13:09] They've negated the origin movie Where it's like Cyborg's the one of these characters Who you want to see the origin story for Because the transformation's interesting Ah Him dealing with his transformation It's okay Do you want to see some movie where It's just now Cyborg-Cyborg Fine, sure
[01:13:24] No I want to see the movie where It gets on the car accident No I'm sick of car accidents Doctor Strange just did one of those Enough we get it I love car accidents You like Cyborg? Yeah I didn't realize I thought it was an explosion It's confusing
[01:13:37] Yeah it's a car explosion I don't know It's a car explosion His mother died Because it's Joe Morton's wife died His Martha died Exactly Martha died And so Martha Junior A.K. Cyborg Yes He like didn't die But he's like wounded And all mucked up So Jordan
[01:13:55] I mean Jordan fuck Miles Dice Joe Morton Miles Dice Miles Dyson from T2 Skylabs him into a Skynets him And he used the box as What? A way to bring him back to life That was the technology Or the box made his body Correct Weird
[01:14:15] Anyway I just like Cyborg I've been into future stuff lately And I like the design of his character I like that his like Robotic parts are still Sort of organic and that he can plug into Other devices Yeah He's sort of Robocopy Honestly when you think about it
[01:14:31] That's why I was getting into him And it's also like He's got the Martha box in his head So like this So he can kind of control him He keeps evolving and they're like We don't know if he can trust him Because you know But like again
[01:14:42] All of these are like An idea that's floated with one line You know it's like none of it's like Beaked into the movie It's just kind of like A lot of ideas kind of get tossed out Right And then there's no time to really
[01:14:53] Dig into it because like we gotta go So then there's that first big fight Where they fight the Paradiemans Yes where it's like James Gordon Commissioner Gordon Played by a county award winner Jk L. O. All Simmons Exactly He puts up the bat signal
[01:15:08] And the flash is like Ha! Bat signal! Bat Batman Brunch man He's doing a jazz set Exactly he does a jazz set And then like James Gordon is like Hey there's the Paradiemans and the Sewers And so Batman's like Great like let's hit the sewers
[01:15:23] I know it will you know You know the Batmobile Yeah You know the Batplane right? Do they have the night crawler at this point? What's that? This one's got a lot of bad vehicles What I'm saying like yeah They have that one that's like That's where he's introducing
[01:15:36] He's like what about the Bat sewer thing Right, flying fox Yeah These are the real names Great Um There's the but There's a moment I like that I think it's pretty good characterization Where the flash owns up to the fact That he's never been in battle before
[01:15:49] And Batman says just save one person Just save one person and it'll sort of go from there Right I guess that's in this scene There's Wonder Woman's in this scene Fighting the Paradiemans You got Batman I guess the Cyborg show up I guess he's involved Yes
[01:16:03] Aquaman comes in later Aquaman comes in when there's this like big wave Just sort of shows up Yeah And then Aquaman is just there Which is laughable But whatever Well cause later in the movie He kind of says like I don't talk to fish
[01:16:15] I talk to the water Yeah So he's Moana Oh Moana Make way The cold cut knife Yeah he does Consider the coconut He does If by coconut you mean mother box Yes Yeah Consider the mother box Okay so they try to kill the Paradiemans
[01:16:37] And they do some of it But they whatever I don't know This is when Doomsday is questioning the Steppenwolf Steppenwolf Steppenwolf shows up Sorry Yeah cause he's kidnapped people Because they smell of mother box Yes This is another of those Like maybe we didn't Thought of this later
[01:16:52] Where it's like Cause there's a bunch of scenes Where they're like civilians though You know Well there's this one family They keep on cutting to We'll get to that But they're being set up this early I know We're seeing this family in Siberia Or somewhere in Russia
[01:17:07] And like It's the Sokaryal move Like let's keep on cutting To this guy with his son Who has no connection to the plot And you just know from the beginning Like Well these people are going to be in danger Like you're just trying to humanize
[01:17:21] As will Doormur would say Civilians It's a pile of garbage Oh What? Someone say my name David let him say What? I'm so tired Let me sleep Sorry Let me sleep Sleep Roger Sleep on your casper Roger Permacode check Doormur is bleeding again
[01:17:44] Oh man it's really soaked into the carpet Someone call Moratyrany Alright Steppenwolf So then they get in a big fight Why does he leave again? They get a big fight Is another scene that feels very weedy Because it specifically feels like that scene in Avengers Where
[01:18:00] They're all like I don't know if we should be a team I guess so And then Loki kills Coulson In that scene Right A fact that has been kind of conveniently forgotten In the MCU Yup Cause now they're just sort of like Loki's our bro He's funny Yeah
[01:18:16] Coulson's still alive But we're never going to know it Right I know like Coulson's alive But we're forbidden from talking about it in the movies So But Affleck in this scene has the If there's even a fraction of a chance Which got laughs from the whole audience
[01:18:29] This is the scene where he Full on Affleck explains Batman explains To Wonder Woman that they need to Revive Superman Using the Martha Box Using the Mother Box The Martha Box And putting They have to put Superman in the poop water From the last movie
[01:18:43] Just the Ashen Lodge Poop Water Return him to the Diarrhea Chamber Yes They're going to put him in it We have to go back We have to go back To the Poop Chamber And we're going to put him in it And we're going to get a Martha Box
[01:18:54] And we're going to like And then the flash is going to run around Yes And make an electric charge And all that soup together will Revive Superman maybe If there's a fraction of a chance We have to do it Wonder Woman's kind of like
[01:19:06] What if he comes back to people They bring up a bunch of valid concerns You don't die And come back with everything in tact Sure You know you're going to have lost something What if it's his humanity What if it's his memory What if it's this
[01:19:16] Also you're the guy Who he thinks kind of killed him Sure he's mad at you See your face You had to fight him It was the dawn of justice Right So he's like Well, okay Alfred Get plan B ready
[01:19:28] Can I be a ward when you're a chairman of the iron? Alright sir Sure I'm here at my console I suppose Right so they go They put him in the poop water They need electricity It's just the right moments The flash is around Like literally just like
[01:19:41] Brown murky poop water Brown But now there's like scowlful thing And then Superman returns He is shirtless Yep Braylock pointed out He's wearing what appears to be sweatpants And I leaned over to Esther and said They paired him in sweatpants And Esther started laughing When you see him
[01:20:05] Cause they, oh There's also a scene where they have to Dig up his grave Yes I think Richard actually Had the joke like this Is a screenplay That has the direction Aquaman Open Superman's grave There's a scene where the flash And Cyborg dig up his coffin
[01:20:27] But he's wearing a suit Yeah I guess so And he is holding the picture of K. Cause That's right That's right That's his only appearance in this movie Yes And he probably got two million dollars Sure fine But he comes back to life
[01:20:45] And I think Bray was the one who said Why couldn't he just have a beard If they knew Cavill had the mustache And it's clear that all of Cavill's stuff Was done in reshoots Because his face looks weird in all but two shots His face looks totally weird
[01:21:02] In all but two shots I counted in the movie His face looks weird They should have just built a fake beard Around his mustache Your hair supposedly grows for a little bit Anyway right Like when you're dead When he's a Captonian Whatever He gives a shit
[01:21:15] He pops out And oh who's here to greet me Two total strangers Yeah don't know them Right And then someone I kind of met for like a minute Yeah he X-ray visions them He's like looking at them Right and he sees some weird things
[01:21:29] Cyborg's got a crazy rabbit body Flash is freaking out He's scared Or Aquaman's scared Whatever Right And he starts going bananas So then they go to Plan B Plan B is Let's bring out Batman That guy you fought No no Plan B is Lois That's C Oh whatever
[01:21:45] That's what I'm saying My point I'm trying to build up here is Lois should have been the Plan A Right To calm him down Yeah cause it works But whatever No it's just their excuse to have another Superman Fights everyone scene Cause he kind of you know
[01:21:59] Digs in with Wonder Woman for a second They kind of bash each other around Yeah I don't even remember it Flash tries to outrun him But then he realizes they're at the same speed He's grumpy He's mad Right they sort of He fast too
[01:22:12] That moment's kind of good He looks back at the Flash Well the Flash is kind of funny Yeah And then Lois shows up and he's like Oh Lois yes Right I love you Okay Clark Kent's back Now he's Superman again Should we talk about the fact that
[01:22:25] Danny Elfman's using his original Batman theme in this movie? And also some notes of the William Superman A little bit A little bit A little bit He subverts it But yeah he uses the Batman theme in this Which I think rules
[01:22:37] I think it's cute of him to do it But it is also I was just kind of like No I liked the Batman You did the music for Like way back when I will say I really like Zimmers Bat Case people don't know Yeah I really like Zimmers
[01:22:55] Superman theme It's fantastic I think it's really good And I think it's actually this The Man of Steel score is Phenomenal Phenomenal Best part of that movie Unquestionably I don't know what about The big bug Russell Crow flies around Oh that part was also very good Correct
[01:23:09] I will find him There's some good stuff in that movie Yeah that movie is kind of interesting That movie is like a five That's like a gentleman's five or six Agreed that's a gentleman's five BVS is a gentleman's four But it's like an intriguing four
[01:23:23] This is like a gentleman's three Yes exactly See I I was watching this And I was like how do I rank this Again BVS And like Suicide Squad is like a minus eight Like that's just on a whole other level Of incompetence
[01:23:35] Right but like BVS I was watching it And I was like fascinated But also furious Yeah And this I was like kind of bored But indifferent Yeah that's fine So it's sort of like Pick your poison Like I was kind of like
[01:23:48] I guess these are both fours to me For different reasons This movie is also so simple Where it's just like The whole movie is He's got three boxes He's trying to put them together There are seven They have to unite them before Six There's six
[01:24:02] Well then why would the hashtag Be unite the seven David That would almost look like They didn't know what they were doing So they put out a hashtag Use in advance and then Cut one member from the team I mean imagine Green Lantern Showing up in this
[01:24:13] It would be cool I guess so So finally Spoiler alert You thought he was dead Well we've already covered These fights all though I know I'm just saying He's back Can't believe it He was second building He's in the movie He has a whole scene
[01:24:29] Where he strokes some corn Well then he goes back home Yeah he goes back home Bring it back to life And then he's just like Well peace And then he's like I'm in the right time In the point of the movie That I need to show up
[01:24:39] And you're like Really? Who knows I don't know Superman will show up But they cut to him Stroke and corn in the field And I was like Oh right this is what it looks Like when they put a camera In a place And they film actors
[01:24:51] In that place Does it That looked like Fake corn to me That stuff looked real to me When they go to his face Then you see Weird Mustache All of that Would look disastrous to me I think the whole movie Kind of looks disastrous Doesn't look great
[01:25:05] But it's not the moment with Lois But again this whole movie Everything feels crowbarred in Yeah It's just like Yeah we need five minutes Of him meeting his mom again Okay we did it It's a weird Lois Diane Lane Seem where they talk about Grieving him early on
[01:25:19] That just feels like Well we can't have Diane Lane In any of the movie And not give him anything to do I guess so But then it's like Lois Lane's arc in this movie Is that she doesn't feel Ready to be a journalist again Right
[01:25:30] She's not ready for another piece I'm sorry It's a boom tube What? That's what Steppenwolf is Teleporting Teleporting on It's called a boom tube Okay According to Wikipedia Okay So now they decide We're gonna Go fight Steppenwolf Go fight Steppenwolf
[01:25:48] So they go to the land of the red Where this family That's been foreshadowed Yeah they're kind of like Where is he They're trying to get away On their pickup truck It's also just outrageous though Like they go to Bruce Wayne Or Star Labs or something
[01:25:58] And they're like Where could he be He's off the grid I don't know Like well They're in the middle of Fighting science or something Like where he is They arrive there It's like He has made hell on earth It would be covered I think you might spot it
[01:26:11] Yeah I think you could see that Look for the red spot Cause it's just like Hell Has like Open the pits of hell Somewhere in Russia So then They fight Steppenwolf They fight Steppenwolf And oh my god Superman comes back What a surprise Like name me
[01:26:27] One hero moment That happens I don't remember Aquaman has his trident He sort of throws it On a pair of demons He says my man He goes like yeah There's one point where Yeah He lands on a pair of demon And surfs him down the building
[01:26:40] And the building collapses Don't remember that You don't remember that When he surfs on a pair of demons body Nope That's the thing that happens Flash runs around I guess the flash Like pushes the car Of the nice family Who turned out to be Not important
[01:26:53] And he feels proud And he sees Superman Like carrying a building Ha ha ha Batman Doesn't really do much Let him be Batman doesn't need to get in Some big robot and do robot shit Just let him do some other shit I mean this It feels like
[01:27:07] Four different movies Like mushed together Yeah And it also feels like You know In animation But four bad movies Yeah You know it's like They didn't really think through Any of the movies Right In animation Because animation is so expensive They make sure their whole Story tracks
[01:27:24] Before they start animating anything You know They do extensive story boardings And they record voiceovers For those story boardings And they film those story boards Tying to the voices So that they can watch the movie Play out and still images And know what the shots are
[01:27:38] And what the beats are And how the dialogue sounds Coming out of a human being's mouth So that they can go Oh let's change this Let's change this That's the big reason animation Takes so long Because they spend two years On the story before They even start animating
[01:27:50] Yeah And that's one of the reasons That like Pixar built this reputation Is that they're just Relentless about finessing Every detail And making sure They don't push the movie Into production until the story Is perfect Right And even then Once they start animating They'll still be comfortable
[01:28:06] Throwing out what they have If they accomplish something better Yes Understand When he did John Carter And shot the whole movie And then they cut it together And said Oh this doesn't cut together Yeah It's lacking most of the Necessary emotional beats He's missing coverage For these things
[01:28:20] Yeah He had to go back And reshoot a ton of it For a really high amount Of money And that's the big thing They slammed him for Costs so much And it bombed so hard Right He's an animator Who doesn't understand And because of his lack Of understanding
[01:28:34] We had to shoot the movie Two and a half times And he said I think in his sort of Defensive Like You know narrative rewriting Afterwards He said You know I just realized The way in which live action Films are made Is so counterintuitive
[01:28:47] I would like to try To advance The development cycle So it's more like Animated films So that you don't Shoot the whole thing All at once And you can go through The difference of these mediums Right Yeah But what's weird is In the time since That Agreed
[01:29:03] It is Like it's had this sort of Critical revival I think it's okay It's okay and it has These good ideas But it's not a particularly Good movie Like I've tried With that movie It's like up my alley To like that movie But it's more functional Than this
[01:29:17] And this movie Has a very similar production History And so did Rogue One And all these humongous Movies Rogue One's the most Crazy movie No it is It is I'm not crazy about Rogue One As you know But what's nuts Is that like
[01:29:32] When John Carter bombs so hard It was like This is a big lesson And instead all these big Movies have been made John Carter style Where they like Push it in without a script It wasn't a big lesson The big lesson was We have to do that better
[01:29:43] Because what John Carter Was as you're saying It was just like The precursor to this Right But they were like Oh we realized our mistakes And now we know how To like pre-vis an entire movie But these things where They just shoot the movie
[01:29:54] Well this movie's gonna make A billion dollars So go eat a poopy sandwich I guess But like Thor's gonna Make a lot more No this movie's gonna Make about as much as Thor And that's what I disagree with that Thor's been doing so Crazy well overseas That's true
[01:30:10] I mean maybe not Maybe I'm wrong I think this movie will do Well overseas too Thor is currently outpacing Wonder Woman Which is crazy Because it's doing so well Over overseas But none of this is Important Even if this movie makes Kind of you know
[01:30:23] And it looks like It's gonna open to about 115 something like that Which is similar to What Thor opened to But significantly down From BVS And so it's quite Down from BVS Up from Wonder Woman Which multiplied really well Which I don't think This is going to
[01:30:37] No I don't think I'm just saying Even if it made Thor money That's not what your Justice League movie Is supposed to do Justice League's movie Is supposed to make more You know that's supposed To be your big team movie Like The Avengers Which always makes more
[01:30:50] That's supposed to be Your biggest $600 million That's what they need to Make essentially to go into profit So if they make Like a billion on the nugget Yeah but are they Really gonna make money I mean they're gonna like Have spent like $600 million in order to
[01:31:04] Make like 10 million dollars I know You know Yeah Yeah On and on it goes When is When are we Gonna stop with this I don't know I mean There's I like this stuff Cause I like these Kind of movies Cause I could check out When I watch them
[01:31:21] There's been so many fucking Superhero movies Where are we gonna stop It'll come The fatigue is coming What's the next thing though It's just not gonna happen yet And it also doesn't seem Like it's gonna happen to Marvel Marvel remains kind of
[01:31:34] Like a step ahead on all this They stay on their feet And they're like Two steps ahead of the curve By trying to like Change up the genres And everything Right and they're also just Yeah they're right They're in their like Late phase where they're kind Of like
[01:31:46] Tycho Waititi comes And they're like Yeah make your movie You're doing jazz sets And he's like I wanna make like An Afro-futurist movie They're like perfect Just do it We need variety And they also just have A track record Like even if You know all the complaints
[01:32:00] Against those movies are valid They're all like Fucking functional But then like If you look at like 2018 Yeah There's still A ton of Superhero movies on the docket It's like They're not gonna like Decelerate anytime soon We still like We have like an X-Men movie Coming
[01:32:17] We have like two X-Men Movies next year I'm actually So I'm kinda done I'm not really a person Who creatively writes But years ago I wrote a multiple man movie Really? Yes You finished like a full multiple man's Yeah and Todd Vanderwerf knows about it He's read it
[01:32:32] Can I read it? No It's bad But like you know Whenever I was like 18 it was probably okay Yeah This is like My high school fantastic four-screw Exactly Like multiple man Was always the one where I was like That'd be cool If you did it right
[01:32:47] But also it always seemed Like it was a two Yeah And my multiple man was always Gonna be Paul Rudd Now Paul Rudd Uh-huh He's you know He's Ant-Man now And who is at Franco Fine Yeah that's true They're in the similar pocket Right But that's like
[01:33:02] They're doing it now Right Like they're doing The Peter David Yeah Multiple man thing Yeah I don't know what's Gonna happen with all this I mean I'll say There are tinges There were moments where Like I'm not a DC guy You know Yeah Kind of nice seeing them
[01:33:18] All together Yeah Kind of Right They're brief moments And again I'll see an Aquaman movie I'll see a flash movie Like it's not like I was so disgusted You know And there were moments where Things were so goofily Comic bookie that I got like a little
[01:33:33] Tinge of joy Just like this is so Untethered You know But the movie is like It's like a cloud It doesn't exist Um We saw less than 24 hours I can barely remember it But do you remember The shrug The great post credit scenes Of this movie Okay
[01:33:49] So one of them is The flash and Superman They're gonna race to see We see the end of the movie What's the end of the movie I'm trying to remember Beats Steppenwolf Oh yeah We just didn't We didn't say that I guess so
[01:34:01] Some people were on the edge of the seat He squishes the mother boxes together And then like He unites the boxes And then Superman And someone else pulled them apart Yeah Okay Wonder Woman's good in this movie I feel like we haven't talked about her much
[01:34:12] You see her butt a bunch Thank you Yeah It's rough And even when they go to Themyscara The Amazon's costumes I know this is gone viral It's gone viral It's not quite as distinct As it looks in that tweet That kind of went out
[01:34:26] Some of them have more of The It's also less distinct Because you never get clear shots Of them But some of them Definitely have more Basically like kind of Just metal bikini costumes Yes Some of them look a little Slave layout Nonetheless With all that shit said
[01:34:41] And this movie obviously Has less Wonder Woman than Wonder Woman Wonder Woman She's still like the best part of the movie And just such a movie star Yeah So I got a couple things to say about One is Yes Almost every Like entry point into a scene
[01:34:54] Is they start on Like Wonder Woman's legs And pan up her butt And then like Reveal everyone else They do the thing that Patty Jenkins, you know Avoided They do it over and over again There's so much butt stuff In this movie The way they dress her to
[01:35:06] Is just so much more revealing I mean David said her butt You see your cleavage Right Her legs Around that Little bit But here's the thought I had Watching this Could take a big swing on this one Okay I kind of think Al Gadot
[01:35:21] Is the female John Wayne Okay In this sense Sure What's the sense? The best thing I've ever heard about John Wayne I forget to say this This is like a thing a critic said You mean the character Jackie Chan plays in Shanghai Newt Yes, exactly John Wayne Yeah
[01:35:37] You know that's that character's name It's John Wayne Yeah, we've brought it up before Sounds like John Wayne Yes That's a terrible name for a cowboy Caroline I'm lightning McQueen That was good Thank you Wow Wow Wow John Wayne What is Melissa Villes and you're in here?
[01:35:56] I know It's her big impression The line I love about John Wayne I saw a real bravo recently And I've never seen it before It's a phenomenal movie Yeah, you saw that in Paris? I saw it in Paris Humble Brat
[01:36:08] I had an aunt who lived in Paris once She leapt I felt so proud of the fact that I was this Archie Falk And I went to Paris for three weeks He got so mad at me about this Do you know that David Oh, God
[01:36:20] I lived in Paris for a second But tell them what you told me I was a bartender God, don't you want to fuck him? Isn't that the most romantic thing you've ever heard? Yes It's like right out of college David moved to Paris
[01:36:34] He lived there for half a year And he was a bartender Think about how I feel It was like right after I graduated from college You at least have to go have fun in Paris I've lived in New Jersey and New York City That's it
[01:36:45] I've left the country once I remember one time, you know, I used to be a... That was Cabo I used to be like a city reporter That's the only time we ever left the country Cabo, that's it Cabo, baby Mother, whatever
[01:36:58] One time I was at some city reporting I used to be a city reporter Did you speak fluent French? Fluent is very strong I took French my whole life And I read and write OK When I lived there Hey, hey, hey, you're a professional critic
[01:37:15] You read and write more than OK When I lived there I do feel like I got my spoken French up to Up from embarrassing to like Barely functional And then it just slips back to nothing I can still only do transactional Right, I mean mostly...
[01:37:32] Yeah, I wasn't ever great You know, Paris, you were just in Paris They kind of read you right away 100% And they know I'd see you in English I'm rusty, I can still do body shots Sort of, I don't know So I was going to say
[01:37:47] I was watching a bravo, which is a phenomenal movie And I'd never seen it before And I was so taken with John Wayne in it And there's always this big argument Because so many people love John Wayne And so many people hate John Wayne
[01:37:55] Well, I mean, maybe you hate John Wayne the man But screen presence is a lot People go like he's a shitty actor And it's like he almost transcends acting For sure, yeah, he's a movie star He's a movie star, he's a presence
[01:38:07] And the thing that I read this critic say And I don't remember who it is Which I think is so spot on Is that John Wayne never told a lie on screen Uh-huh He is so unflappably honest Even when he's heightened Even when he's not realistic
[01:38:19] His line readings are like a little bit off Everything he says just reeks of honesty and integrity And Gal Gadot has that fucking thing Where it's like she's not the most Technically adapt actress in the world She's underrated a little bit as an actress
[01:38:32] But I also just think as a fucking screen presence It's that weird thing about movies Where like watching this film Where they give her a lot less to do Where she's in it a lot but she doesn't really have
[01:38:42] They're trying to give her stuff to do, I think Because again they realize like oh fuck Wonder Woman was a huge hit But yeah, she doesn't have a ton to do But you watch the scenes where anyone else has to go like
[01:38:50] Stepan Wolf, he has the three mother boxes And no one can make that stuff sing Yeah, but she has so much authority on screen You just believe her, she doesn't tell a lie on screen And she's fucking honest Like honestly if I were Whedon or whoever
[01:39:01] And I'm being brought in I would really have been like We need to totally retool this movie Take it away from Bruce Wayne And make it about Wonder Woman Like you know make her the leader of the team That's at that point literally scrapping everything
[01:39:14] No, I know they would have probably just said We can't do that And they also didn't know at the point that they hired Whedon That Wonder Woman was going to be like The most well received superhero movie in years
[01:39:23] Well they knew by the time he was reshooting it I know It just made a little face Yeah Um, anyway She is very good in this In the post-credits scene, yeah Superman races the Flash So Drowneyer sitting there were like
[01:39:36] Man, who are all the actors who were supposed to be in this Were cut out of it? Jesse Eisenberg, right? Joe Mangianello And then final credits scene starts And it's Jesse Eisenberg and Joe Mangianello So Jesse Eisenberg's out of prison I guess
[01:39:47] Now he's got a suit he's more like Lex Luthor He's toned down the frenetic energy A little bit, still basically doing his thing But he's being a little more still Here comes Deathstroke Who I think might have the same problem that Darkseid will have
[01:39:58] If they ever try to do him Where people are going to be like That's Deadpool Yeah, he's the character that's Deadpool His name is Wilson Is parodying But of course Deadpool, right Was a spin on Deathstroke He got applause from our audience That's horseshit
[01:40:11] Can I tell you the other moments that got applause? Yes The when Superman says The did you bleed thing to Batman That got applause? Yeah, right? Yeah And then Batman has like a funny line where he's like Something's definitely bleeding That didn't get applause And then he goes
[01:40:27] I farted He doesn't do that I think when Superman came back That's what the joke lines are like in this movie I know, I know Somebody smells When Superman comes back and says Like I stand for truth and justice That got applause Fucking hell, this audio isn't it?
[01:40:44] But the Deathstroke applause I was like this is just a Pavlovian response You're just applauding that character you know Is on screen I guess so Takes off his helmet He's Joe Manginello with like white hair Isn't it time we started around Lee
[01:40:56] So they're gonna have Deathstroke and Deadshot In one cinematic universe? Yeah, those guys kind of can't say cut out Can't switch other out Big time And one of them is Will Smith The other one is Joe Manginello I think I know who I pick Yeah
[01:41:10] So that's Justice League It's a movie I guess It was a bummer Yeah I thought we were really gonna have fun dunking on it But honestly It's not a dunkable movie That's the thing It's just whatever I don't know They'll make a better movie later
[01:41:25] I guess the other problem is they blow their wad Next year they have Aquaman in December That's it That's the only one That's the only one on the docket And then after that Wonder Woman 2 And Wonder Woman 2 are the only Shazam
[01:41:39] Those are the two that are like actively I believe those are both on the slate for 2019 Obviously Wonder Woman 2 is their crown jewel these days Patty Jenkins is returning Gagato is returning Right And it's like Atlantis is cool Yeah You know like that mythology Yes Is so cool
[01:41:55] And I have zero faith that they're gonna do Anything interesting But James Wan is cool Yeah I like James Wan a lot Yeah you like him more than I do I like him okay He could make a good movie He could make a good movie
[01:42:07] I'm not opposed to I like the Conjuring movies so much Right But like you know I don't like You know saw that much He only did the first one I'm not crazy about that one Yeah But I mean like He set like a pallet
[01:42:23] You know it was an influential movie Right But like I don't think there were a lot of good lessons learned from Saw No but I don't think blame him for the sequels I think here's he in Death Sense with your boy Bacon I have
[01:42:34] That movie is really solid It's solid I think that's a really solid movie I think it's a solid And Furious Evans and American Masterpiece Yeah It's okay He did an okay job with it I think the Conjuring movies are his good movies I agree
[01:42:46] I think the Conjuring movies are okay I've never seen the Insidious They're pretty good He's okay I think he's a good filmmaker I want to see that movie Sure I want to see that movie Give me that bill And now we're just stealing other people's PILO GOVICH
[01:43:01] Why someone say my catchphrase Who's talking about my GOVICH How you been sleeping Not great I need a Casper Alright Well it's coming Tell me the promo code again Check Casper.com Let me sleep Box office prediction game We don't get to do this often
[01:43:21] We don't get to do this often So last week's box office Regnag did 60 50 Yeah Thor What did we have here Let me call up the weekend Yeah so in its second week Thor did 57 Daddy's home 2 30 29.6 Murder on the Orn Express did 28.6 Bad Mom's Christmas Did 11 Jake Saw did 3
[01:43:49] Not that great And nothing else open this weekend Other than a Juicest League The Dressed Us Week There's I guess there's not any other Wides Because it's like Well I think three billboards is expanding But I don't think it's going wide Lady Bird's gonna continue to grow
[01:44:05] Lady Bird probably make a couple mill this week Lady Bird is kicking ass Kicking ass Because it's like It's in barely any theaters It's already in the top 10 And also because it's charming It's the king of charm Yeah the star and Wonder Are Wide this week Oh okay
[01:44:22] Wonder I think might do a little better than people are expecting Wonder will get like 10 But it'll sort of It'll linger I think Wonder will do like 9 or 10 I think the star is gonna fucking belly The star is gonna Dell go it up there
[01:44:32] Right it's gonna do like 5 It's gonna do 5 dollars It might break the Strange Magics record Yeah And then you yeah You got Thor and Murder on the Unixpress Linger Ground I guess you have Daddy's home Yeah so what I mean Thor does 30 this weekend
[01:44:47] Justice League will open like I said Like 115 something like that I think it did 13 in Midnight Previews Which is not Great Not terrible It's comparable to Wonder Woman Right So I think I think it'll do 112 is my prediction You got Thor it'll do 30
[01:45:03] Daddy's home and Murder will probably have Sort of decent drops And they'll do like I think they'll both do high teens Yeah 15, 16 I think 18, 19 I think they're not a good drop Bad moms has been dropping really low So it you know like
[01:45:15] Nice short drops so it'll do like 7 They're gonna need to come out with Bad dads to revive the franchise Remember when they announced Bad Dads And when they were Announced a male Ghostbusters movie Yeah Fuck everything I hate this industry It's terrible What are we doing
[01:45:33] Well we are Wrapping up Yeah The year Oh let's do this And we're gonna talk about The stuff we have coming up Let's talk about 218 Okay Well next week Many people have surmised that we are not starting A new miniseries before this year's end No why would we
[01:45:51] But we never officially announced that I guess we did and put out the calendar Next week We got quite a bonus episode for you Mm-hmm We are going to journey To the land of Pandora Yes that's right my friends I took a trip to Avatar land
[01:46:07] And that's right my friends I didn't You're lost Boy did I have a ball of a time You seem to get very sick I got very sick I killed my immune system I'm too old I can't do it anymore Yeah It was a very fatalistic trip
[01:46:21] Where I realised I have aged Right so we're gonna talk about that Ben and I were talking I think we're gonna take some You know user questions Sure it might be a little bit of a mail bag Do some mail baggy stuff
[01:46:32] We've been doing a lot of these episodes Banked up way in advance And we're already recording episodes For next year So we will talk Let's do an episode that we record Very shortly before it comes out And we're able to address more current events
[01:46:41] Stuff people like when we got hot takes On new movies Yeah we'll do a little of that Probably some new bummer controversy Yeah right how many different Fucking men are gonna destroy their Reputations and I don't know I hate everything I do too
[01:46:58] Just have to unite this out Look forward to that Look forward to that episode Oh no but before that Is it before that? Yes next week's episode Okay Is our second sibling episode It's a siblings choice episode We brought in the great Joey Sims Joey C Sims
[01:47:16] And we talk about the film Lost in Space Da da da da da da da da The Stephen Hopkins film Blarp We blarp it up That was awesome We did that a while ago But that was good We did that five years ago That was fucking insane
[01:47:31] Yup it's crazy That was the thing we were gonna do Swat Joey didn't really want to do Swat We spent a while talking around Various ideas Swatting around different ideas And then near the end Joey was like wait a second Lost in Space
[01:47:41] And we were all just sort of like Yeah great Okay so we do a Lost in Space episode Then we go to Avatar land Then the week after that is The Last Jedi Correct Then we go on Christmas Christmas break When we come back First week of Jan
[01:47:56] You're getting the post Yeah baby And then we are starting our next mini series which we can officially announce Second week of Jan Correct on January 8th, 7th We began a mini series On the Hollywood films Of Paul Verhoeven That's right Is called Pod Ship Castors
[01:48:15] But Griffin you said we would Never talk about Robocop Woo hoo hoo hoo I am giggling because I have Pulled a fast one on all of you I pulled the wool over your eyes We're talking about Robocop My favorite movie And it's a five hour episode
[01:48:30] Oh god that episode was intolerable No it was fun You had fun right I had fun I'm so excited we're doing The Hollywood Even for a podcast that always indulges him I Robocop Splendia Yeah he just goes on and on about it It's great
[01:48:44] It's great so get ready for that Mini series coming up in January We've got some exciting guests But we're also going to do the post Our New Year's Day episode The Post The New Steven Spielberg movie Which we'll be seeing in 48 hours
[01:48:58] Yeah we're going to see it real soon All three of us I don't know much about it Based on the poster it looks like it's about stairs Yeah it's a big old stair I think it's a really good post I actually think it's a good post
[01:49:06] I also think that trailers a lot better Than a lot of people do Yeah I think the trailer is fine But I also am kind of like hey guys I mean like the Bridgespies Trailer is pretty mediocre That's how I feel Because everyone's tweeting at me
[01:49:18] Asking me for my hot takes On the Hotel Transylvania 3 trailer And my response is All the Hotel Transylvania They're bad But also isn't this one kind of exciting Because Tartarowski wrote it He wrote it Like maybe it's good Yes I mean I mean I know
[01:49:32] He had two original films set up at Sony He really wanted to make a pop-up movie And he had an original film called Can You Imagine Yeah Both of those got shut down He said he didn't want to do Hotel Transylvania anymore No he's doing it
[01:49:43] And then he said I came up with an idea I really liked and I said If you let me write it I'll do it Right So I'm a little excited by the fact That he's writing it I know it's fun And he's such a good filmmaker
[01:49:52] He did get to bring back Samurai Jack And that was cool It's not like he's like completely No I just want someone to let him make a movie Agreed Agreed And for him to get the respect He deserves Squash and Stretch Yes Squash and Stretch bro
[01:50:04] HD2 is a mess But it's still more interesting As a piece of animation direction Than most American films So that's what we got coming up Hotel Transylvania Next year Yeah And we'll have our Blanky Awards Obviously sometime in February When HD3 comes out
[01:50:17] Can we do a bonus episode Where we do all three I feel like I've talked about them enough When's it come out? I don't know Literally when Spring Let's see when it comes out July 13th Oh that's fine, come on Can we do a Hotel Transylvania trilogy episode
[01:50:32] Yes That's fun That's fun Ben that's fun People will like that Alright It'll be like the Jack Ray True episode Great I'm slotting it in Great Get ready for that Pogtail, Castlevania I just wrote Hotel Transylvania mega episode Great I'm so excited I have won
[01:50:54] Thank you all for listening All we do is let you win That's not true You guys are fighting against me You press me at every turn I never get to express my thoughts on this podcast Yeah that's the real I have no voice I've been muffled
[01:51:07] Thanks for listening everybody Oh can I do a quick merchandise spotlight? Jesus fuck Very quick Yeah of course There's a lot of like talking toys For Justice League Like they have like the figures that talk And also like the masks that talk
[01:51:20] And the Batman one sounds like Bartman Because they just do the modulated voice It just looks weird to me Right But the other ones are so incredibly off base I find them amusing Okay So the Gal Gadot doll has an American accent She just goes like
[01:51:37] I'm from Themyscira My name is Wonder Woman Uh huh And the flash toys Sounds like Bill and Ortec From The Excellent Adventure Uh huh I just think they're funny If you're in a Target or a Walmart And you walk by the Justice League
[01:51:53] I'll push that try me button Those voices are funny And don't forget to go to Casper.com Yeah please Get a mattress I got one it was awesome To make sure that you typed in Check Yep Promo code check Casper.com Backslash check Terms and conditions apply
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