Lost in Space with Joey Sims

[00:00:00] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David, Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check Podcast Will Robinson, podcast! Yeah, that's fine. That's great.

[00:00:25] That's great. That's what the whole movie was. Yeah, exactly. The whole movie was like, we'll just do that. Right. Let's not alter these diamond cut lines.

[00:00:34] Let's have a little line corner where we can quote our favorite lines from the movie, but let's not bastardize them in our opening. Let's show some respect. He only says it though quietly, right?

[00:00:45] Now what's the name of this character again? Remind me, because I know what kind of thing it is. You know what type of creature he is. The vice creature. The character's name is Robert. Oh, it's just robot. Okay, fun. Robot.

[00:01:00] It is funny because I got him confused with someone else. There are other robots. Is this the fastest we've ever gotten to minute 35 of the podcast? We somehow very quickly got to running out of things since all of a sudden. Come on, come on, come on.

[00:01:17] Hello everybody, my name is Griffin Newman. Griffin Newman, David Sims. We're hashtag the two friends and this is Blank Check with Griffin and David. It's a podcast about filmography, directors who have massive success early on and are given a series of blank checks.

[00:01:29] And sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce baby. Yeah, okay. Usually that's what our show is. But today for the second time ever, it's bring your family member to podcast day. This is work. I consider this work. You can call it work.

[00:01:46] Okay. It's bring your relative to work day. It's a family choice episode. I had my sister, Romley Newman on. We talked about worst product. And now we've got plans in the future for our producing friend. Yes. Producer Ben's dad, producer Ben's dad, producer Ben's dad. Ben Deucer's dad.

[00:02:04] What? Ben Deucer's dad. I said Ben Deucer's bad. You did. I didn't mean to editorialize. Peepers dad, dirt bike, Benny's dad, meat lovers dad, the far detectives dad, fuck master's dad. He's not professor Crispy's dad. He's graduated certain titles over the course of different years.

[00:02:26] You're gonna do this to your dad whenever your dad comes around. What do you think your dad's gonna think of that? He's gonna get so annoyed. Producer Ben, Kenobi, Kylo, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, say anything. Ailey Ben's with a dollar sign, Warhouse and Purdue are being.

[00:02:37] And we don't have another one. Oh, fuck. Yeah man. We need a Catherine Bigelow one. Let's come up with it by the end of the episode. Maybe. I forgot to point that out to you. Geez. I really threw him for a loop there. We got it.

[00:02:54] Just we'll insert it later? Yes. So then of course my new nickname is. Of course it is Ben 19, the final maker. Wow. I can't wait to hear that all the fucking time. I hope it's not Osama Ben-Lond. It's definitely not. No, no, it's Osama Ben-Hosley.

[00:03:12] Which is what the fans are demanding right? Osama Ben-Hosley. I'm putting my foot down. I refuse to allow that to happen. Oh, God. No, it is not. I just, just showed me a better option. I hope we were shown a better option. I hope we've been shown.

[00:03:25] We're recording this in October. It's not coming out until December. And let's hope that in the time between when we recorded it and when it's released, when we've dropped in the name, the Ben nickname for Bigelow. It's not Osama Ben-Hosley. Let's pray. Yeah. All right.

[00:03:41] Okay, but no, today we have my brother in. Hello. Do you want to be called Joseph or Joey? Joey. Yeah, you're Joey Sims. Joey Sims, baby. My brother's here. Joey Sims. I have not dropped Joey in adulthood. You haven't. In fact, you've embraced it, I would say.

[00:03:55] I think it works for you. Not what was planned, but yeah, it worked. He's Joseph, but you know. And you picked a movie today starring another famous Joey. Oh boy. Actually didn't really occur to me. Another man who owned Joey.

[00:04:08] It does feel like a movie that Joey Trebeani would do. Right? I would argue that's the number one lasting legacy of this movie. Right? Is the joke, the Mimi kind of like lost in space is weird because it's like watching a Joey Trebeani film. Right?

[00:04:23] And this feels like the performance that Joey would give. Yeah, totally. I think Matt LeBlanc is a fairly good actor and I, in general, I mean surely a good creative actor. He has the ability. Yes, the ability. Episodes. Right. Right. Man with a plan.

[00:04:38] Oh God, I forgot about that. Is that, that could cancel? No. It's the long. Okay. They just killed off the wife in season two so he can marry Leah Ramine. Is the whole point of man with a plan just that he's a dad? He's got a plan.

[00:04:52] What's the plan? I think he doesn't raise children. Okay, he doesn't have a plan. His plan is be a dad. Okay. Is the, is the plan in the title ironic? Does he not have a plan? I don't know. I've never seen it.

[00:05:04] I'm just reading and the plot is his wife goes back to work and he has to be a home dad, which is what they've now reworked Kevin can wait to be. Is that what Kevin can wait about? I thought Kevin can't wait was about grief.

[00:05:18] Well, the Sony executives said that the reason they killed off Aaron Hayes as his wife was because they wanted to see him struggle to be a single parent. Okay. But I thought he was going to get with Liam. Are they just going to date?

[00:05:32] I don't know because she was his partner. Leah Ramine. She was like his old cop partner on the show. I don't think they're dating yet. I have no idea. We shouldn't talk about things we don't know. We shouldn't talk about things we don't know.

[00:05:45] She was introduced in the first season finale as a police detective who'd worked with Kevin on a major case and they bickered and then he becomes, she becomes his boss, the boss of his security company. So there'll be like a workplace thing. Here's what could have happened.

[00:06:01] They could. So it is about grief. He could still become his boss and he could still stay married to the woman who was not killed off by executives. But it would be weird. It would be weird. Because it would be, it's his wife from the last show.

[00:06:13] No, David, you're right. It'd be very weird to have two actresses on one sitcom. I know. It would confuse my brain. It would be like shifting without a clutch. Now are they going to talk to each other about just things that don't relate to many things?

[00:06:28] Would that be like a thing on the table? Yes, to Kevin or how he can wait. We can't do that. Because you're the one who alerted me to the clip. No, but that clip was just amazing. I mean, that clip made the rounds wildly.

[00:06:39] No, I would not watch it. But I said that bringing us back to Man with a Plan, which I think is slightly more relevant. That's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about, Man with a Plan. Every clip I've seen of it is just about him.

[00:06:51] Not have never, have never having a plan. He's just an idiot. Well, this episode is called Pog with the cast. Why does he have to do this? It's cool. Yeah. No, he's got crazy residual money.

[00:07:01] When you ask what the titular plan is, it's to get 100 episodes out of Man with a Plan and make more residual money. But this was kind of like the total dead end of his film career. This is the total. We're talking about Matt LeBlanc. Matt LeBlanc.

[00:07:15] And the movie is Lost in Space. Just to be clear. A Matt LeBlanc vehicle. 1998's Stephen Hopkins. Joint. Masterpiece. Yes. Lost in Space written by Kiva Goldsmith. It was the end, but it was also the beginning, wasn't it? Was there anything before that? Ed.

[00:07:32] Ed, where he plays baseball with a monkey. That's it. Yeah. Again, that also says. And then Charlie's Angels where he's like supporting, supporting, deep supporting. That's what I'm saying. But after this, right? He has made nine movies in total. In total.

[00:07:48] Like he'd made a movie called Ghost Brigade. Sounds good. With Corbin Bernstein and Martin Sheen. It seems to be some sort of Civil War drama. Oh, never mind. But it's a supernatural horror film. Oh, cool. I don't know, man.

[00:08:01] Didn't he also make a war movie where he dresses up as a lady? Oh, I was going to get to that. He made all the Queen's Man with Eddie Izzard where he plays a British person, I think. Right. No, he's American.

[00:08:12] Izzard is British and they have to infiltrate a German factory in Berlin dressed as women. It's a World War Two movie. World War Two. So it's like. And I think it's some like it hot, but with Nazis.

[00:08:28] I was about to say, I think it's based on a real event, but there's no implication that it is. So they were just like right. So I'm like a fight with Nazis. Okay. Apparently it made minus 99.9% of its budget because it cost $15 million and it made $23,000. Geez.

[00:08:53] He made that while he was still on friends. Like he that was like a film. He was like, in my summer, you know what I'm going to do is make all the Queen's Man. Okay. So nine in total. Those two movies. Two Charlie's Angels. Two Charlie's Angels.

[00:09:06] Look at a movie called Lookin' Italian. Sure. Well, I mean, yeah, that. Lookin' Italian. If the boot fits. A low budget independent film. An homage to Scorsese according to writer-director Guy Magar. That's who's credited here. And he said to me the words Lookin' Italian meant Lookin' Good.

[00:09:27] Lookin' Italian. And then Ed, which has a creepy like guy in a suit as a monkey or as an animatronic. It's a little person in a robot suit. Here's the poster. He's high-fiving. That was while he was on friends. That's like at the height of friends. Correct. 96. Right.

[00:09:44] And that's like my dad's old adage about like don't do the talking horse movie. You know this whole thing? No, but. My dad's like big advice he gives to his students is like don't do the talking

[00:09:52] horse movie because it's like you'll make like your short film and you'll get a bunch of offers and some will come to you and go like we can pay you half a million dollars. You have a $40 million budget and you get to make the talking horse movie.

[00:10:05] And if you make this, it'll be such a big hit that then you can make whatever you want. Right. And you take the talking horse movie and the talking horse movie is terrible because you never cared about in the first place and then your career is ruined because

[00:10:15] you're the guy who made the talking horse movie. Talking horse movie is rough. Right. But like Ed feels like a talking horse movie. So I'm being like Matt. You're talking on friends. You want to be a leading man, right? Do the baseball monkey movie.

[00:10:26] But he doesn't even talk, right? No, he's not a talking monkey. He's just a pitching monkey. And this is pre-air butt. Pre-air but he also made a movie with Allie Larder called Love Sick a couple years ago. What? A couple years ago. Shrug.

[00:10:41] That's all I got for you. It was the opening night movie at the Newport Beach Film Festival. Newport Beach Film Festival. Chevy Chase is in it. He probably did five minutes and he did it. Okay. All right. So that's what Matt LeBlanc is up to now.

[00:10:54] But then this is his big commercial play being third build in a lost in space gritty reboot. But he is kind of the lead. One thing that's fascinating about this movie is that it has no lead. Okay. Yes, I got that. Matt is not even above the title.

[00:11:11] I know. He is not. The first build on the film is the villain. Gary Oldman. Second build. But also the most important character on the TV show, which is why I think that's why he gets it.

[00:11:20] And it is certainly the biggest actor at the time of the release of this film. He's doing, where's he at? Where's Oldman at? I think this feels like the movie he made to like find it's nil by mouth or whatever. Right. This is where he's like.

[00:11:32] But he's like coming right off of Air Force One. He's right in high at this point. Air Force One. He at this point had been, he had established himself as like the top villain in Hollywood.

[00:11:40] The previous year he had made fifth element Air Force One in nil by mouth. Right. Yeah. I mean he's big. And after this he doesn't make anything for a while. Right. And this is sort of the end of Hurt in studio movies, The Big Hurt. Oh, it is.

[00:11:55] We're going to talk so much about William Hurt's performance in this movie. I swear to God. I mean there's just one line where Joanne and I just looked at each other like sort of scandalized, like late in the movie. He hates that he's in this movie.

[00:12:08] He's so mad that he's in this movie. Like furious that he's in this movie. Oh my God. William Hurt. Yeah. The Big Hurt. You've been in the movie for a whole year? Well, the year before. Yeah. Good poll. No, two years before. OK. 1996. Jane Eyre. Right.

[00:12:26] The Zefarelli Jane Eyre. But this is the end of studio picture leading man William Hurt. Same area as Dark City. OK. He's really good in that. He is good in that. And one true thing, the same year as well, the Cancer Movie, it's cancer right? Yeah.

[00:12:37] That's the most street. Marl Streep, Bruce Lither, I mean, Ty Renee Zellweger. I think it's cancer. I don't know. It's a sick movie. Marl Streep. Yes, it's a cancer movie. It's a Carl Franklin movie. Yeah, it's Streep, Zellweger, William Hurt, Tom Everett Scott. That's your four.

[00:12:53] Lauren Graham's in it. A young Lauren Graham. A movie starring three people who have won Oscars and Tom Everett Scott. Tom Everett Scott. That's the poster. It's the three of them and Tom Everett Scott. Each of them is holding their trophy and Tom Everett Scott's doing the shrug.

[00:13:08] And then yeah. So then after this Hurt is... Yeah, that's just kind of gone for a while. Is that true? It's gone. He's gone. He's in Sunshine, that like multi-generational Ray Fiennes movie. I've never seen it. That's like an art movie.

[00:13:20] History of Violence is sort of a comeback. History of Violence is a whole five though. Right, that's what I'm saying. It took that long. But you know, I mean he has his little roles because he pops up in AI, our favorite movie. Right, which he's very good in.

[00:13:30] He's in like one scene in Changing Lanes. He's in the king. He's in the village, of course. Changing Lanes was one of my ideas for this. But I thought you might want to do a Michelle. Roger Michelle, you said it right. That's an interesting filmography. Wait a second.

[00:13:47] Now I want to look at Roger Michelle. We're never going to do Roger Michelle. We're going to do Roger Michelle. We're doing Roger Michelle. No, that seems like a TV movie. Notting Hill. Titanic Town, Notting Hill, Changing Lanes. The mother. Daniel Craig, Fox and Old Lady.

[00:13:59] She's that old middle-aged lady. Enduring Love, which is okay. Good movie. I like that movie too. Heaven's very good in it. Venus, Peter Tull's swan song. Morning Glory. Which is... We talk about a lot. Have you seen Morning Glory? I actually haven't seen Morning Glory.

[00:14:18] Joey, you would love Morning Glory. It's the beginning of the Ford Triang period. Harrison starts trying again. Hyde Park on Hudson, which is enough to completely evaluate any Roger Michelle. Block that. Something called Low Weekend. Oh, yeah. No, that movie's charming.

[00:14:36] Jim Broadbent and Lindsay Duncan go on a vacation. TC-14 herself. That's great. A befuddled Broadbent. Do you know who else is in it? Do you know who else is in that movie? Jeff Goldblum. I believe Jeff Goldblum is a third build. You're welcome. You are welcome.

[00:15:01] That movie looks completely insane. I'm sorry, I had to take my headphones off. Movies that love it. I was so horrified by that movie. And then my cousin Rachel this year, which I didn't see. I didn't see. You know the weird thing about Roger Michelle is

[00:15:13] because Daniel Craig loved him. Loves him, right? He did those two big movies with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. Before he got really big. He always gets thrown out every time there's a new Bond movie. Every time there's a new Bond movie,

[00:15:25] he's on the short list of the three people because Craig keeps on trying to get Roger Michelle hired to direct a Bond. That's... I don't know. It feels like a poison chalice for Roger. I agree. Shouldn't do it. No good, very bad. Don't do it.

[00:15:38] Do you like changing lanes that much? No, but I watched them. I went back and watched them clips of it and I was like, okay, this isn't quite as good as I remember it being. But it's just sort of fascinating because it's

[00:15:48] the kind of movie that doesn't get made anymore. We haven't worked it recently for that reason. It really is. I can't be in a box office game and we were like, how did that movie exist? And it was a hit. It made money, got decent reviews.

[00:15:58] Number one, two weekends in a row. Came out in April, never got talked about for Oscars who cares. They just sort of like, yeah, like they had a car accident. You know, their lanes, they changed. There's like no real pitch.

[00:16:10] That was a period of time where you could release a drama on over 2,000 screens with no Oscar aspirations. Do you think if I was interviewing Ben Affleck and he's just like in his stupor, you know, he's like melted into his chair. Vape him.

[00:16:23] Yeah, vape him and his like shirt tails are coming out of his fly or whatever, you know what I mean? And I'm like changing lanes though and there'd be like a flicker of light in his eyes and he'd be like, yeah, that's a good idea.

[00:16:34] In my head, he's just Brando now. Yeah. This is that one picture of him where he looks really disheveled. I'm like, Affleck is conned completely off his rocker. The best one is the one with him on the Dumbo ride at Disney World. Yeah.

[00:16:49] After he and Garner filed for divorce but they clearly had booked this family trip together. And it's him doing full sad Affleck but just on the Dumbo ride like looking off into the middle distance. Jesus. Here it is. What were we talking about?

[00:17:04] What the hell are we talking about? We're talking about William Hurt because he was in these little movies. Yeah. And you're right, we've talked about before history of violence comes around and we're like, Hurt's back but he's not really bad. No, until he finds his role.

[00:17:17] I mean his iconic role, the one that's going to go down in history. General Thunderbolt Taras. Yes. Remember when he reprised that role in Civil War? We all remember it. Do you remember that? No. You don't remember it. But this movie is sort of,

[00:17:32] it feels like a constant insult to Hurt because he does. If anyone is in theory the lead, it's him but the movie gives him nothing. It's a thankless role and you can tell that he's like, maybe I'm done with this.

[00:17:42] Like maybe I'm done making these fucking Hollywood movies. Not only is it a thankless role, both Oldman and LeBlanc, the other leads, keep being like, fuck out of here old man. You know, like useless professor. What do you have to do? And then his kid,

[00:17:54] he's like, how are you doing kids? Fuck off. I hate you dad. Except for Heather Graham, who's like, I love you father. I have no emotions. All I love is the project. We must complete it. Can I get some recognition for my penny impression? That was great.

[00:18:12] Dad, I hate you. Oh, I thought that was Will. Now Will, 1998, how old are you? Oh, I was jealous of this kid. I'm going to say, like Will is a real Griffin Newman in 1998 role. Yeah. Boy genius. I looked him up yesterday. He's that actor, Jack Johnson.

[00:18:29] Jack Johnson. He talks about banana pancakes. Of course, wrote all the songs for the curious George soundtrack. But he... It is banana pancakes. I'm right. He's two years older than me. So in 1998, I would have been, I was nine, he was 11 when they shot this. Sure. Yeah.

[00:18:51] But I was very jealous of him. He got to be friends with a rabbit. He got to go into space with Heather Graham, who I had a very big crush on when I was nine. Sure. That's it. I mean, he didn't make another movie basically.

[00:19:01] No, pretty much not. No, he did voice roles in like two other animated films. Yeah. The thing I find interesting about LeBlanc in this movie is it feels like he got the part and was like, okay, this movie asks for a Han Solo.

[00:19:16] You have to be this roguish Cad who the audience... I can't approve of, but can't stop watching. Right. You got the dad, root and figure of authority. You got the villain, and then right off to the side, right. You know what this movie could have been called? What?

[00:19:31] The dad, the bad and the Cad. Well, one of the problems is... The dad. Please go ahead. One of the problems is that... LeBlanc, the dad, the dad, the dad, the dad. Yeah, it's supposed to be like, well, you can't quite approve of his roguish behavior,

[00:19:45] but what roguish behavior exactly, for instance, the thing that he does in the first scene, seems entirely reasonable. I mean, keep people keep yelling at him for the rest of the movie, but it's like, what did he do wrong? Well, the dynamite first scene.

[00:19:59] This movie cannot pick a lane. This movie cannot pick a lane. We'll get to LeBlanc's later activity in which he basically like, nudges William Hurt and he's like, I really want to fuck her. Yeah. And Hurt's like, that's my daughter. And he's like... Oh, that's cool.

[00:20:14] We'll get into that. But no, you're right. The dynamite first scene is an action sequence like no other. They're in bubble fighters. Where they're like, spaceships have been cool, but what if they're not cool? I can't wait. First off. No, spaceships, maybe cool.

[00:20:32] We've had a lot of cool spaceships over the years, right? In general, this is like, this is a space movie, but it sucks. We're skipping, we're skipping, I think, what is the most important thing about this movie. You've already skipped over it. You think you're starting to forget.

[00:20:47] This movie starts way too quickly. This movie completely skips any kind of foreplay. It does have like, 20 seconds of voiceover explaining, right, right, right. But specifically, New Line Studios logo, and then no titles, no company credits, no, no, no, no. No like, slow ramp up a score.

[00:21:09] Your daddy's sci-fi picture. It goes from New Line Studio logo to the second, the millisecond the logo ends William Harp go going, in the year 20. Like it's way too fast. He doesn't even like take a breath. There's not a breath.

[00:21:25] They cold cut from the end of the logo. There may be an overlapping. It's now ships in space and I'm going, in the future. No, no, no, this movie is 130 minutes long. Yeah. It's not short. No, and it feels like they cut an hour out.

[00:21:38] But it feels rushed, right? Would you agree? I would agree. It's so incredibly, it's half a movie, but it's also four movies. Right. How is that possible? It's insane. This movie defies space and time. This movie's on Netflix. I'm pretty sure it'll still be on Netflix forever.

[00:21:55] I'm pretty sure Netflix spent $10 on the rights to this movie. Yeah. Right? I mean, no one's like, no, no, no, let me get lost in space off of Netflix. I think I can find a higher bidder elsewhere. Right? So it'll be on Netflix.

[00:22:07] You can watch it on Netflix. This movie is the kid from preschool who always had to like stay an extra hour and a half after school with the teachers because his mom kept on forgetting to pick him up. Like that's new line with the rights

[00:22:17] to this movie on streaming. They're just like, oh, does Netflix still have lost in space? Can you hold onto it for like two more years? It was long in the works. Yeah. Like the idea of doing a lost in space movie. Well, Beloved Series. Yeah, I guess so.

[00:22:33] And this was in the 90s. I've never watched it. Have you ever watched it? I've watched it, yeah. I mean, I've seen like an episode. 90s were the start. I would argue the 1990s were the start of nostalgia culture in a major way. Okay, sure. Right?

[00:22:48] And 90s, studio filmmaking, suddenly it's all these revivals of 60s properties. You have a lot of that going on. You got like the shit, like the Flintstones, you know? You have these cartoon adaptations. Charlie's Angels, which doesn't count until 2000. But like these kinds. Stars, skin, hutch. Right.

[00:23:05] Well, that comes out later. Then we're getting to 70s stuff. That's like 2003. Then we're getting to 70s stuff. Right, you're right. But 60s Lost in Space, the Brady Bunch movie certainly, you know? Yeah. The Flintstones, right? All that shit. Why'd they never make a Jetsons movie?

[00:23:17] They've tried forever. Robert Zemeckis is doing a TV show, which I think is a bad idea. But here's the opposite of that. Okay? Lost in Space should never have been a movie. This entire premise is designed for television. It's episodic. They're lost. They don't know every week

[00:23:37] they're going to go somewhere else and not find their way home. By making this movie, like to fitting it into the constraints of a self-contained narrative, but also trying to launch a franchise off of it is a nightmare. It's a nightmare. It's a total nightmare. A nightmare.

[00:23:55] Which is why the movie tries to be like four different things and is not successful being any of them. And none of them have anything to do with what the first action sequence is, which is just its own little dark gritty thing, which we then never return to.

[00:24:09] But this movie is dark and gritty. In like the most lame Hollywood way possible. How? It fucking kills the characters on screen. It has like weird bitey spiders. Like it's trying to be creepy. It's trying to be real. I guess maybe it's got an emo kid. Yeah.

[00:24:26] And people objected to how dark this movie was when it came out. I'll say another thing about it. This was an era where like if you were rebooting a previously goofy property, you had to strip all the goofiness out of it. All the intentional goofiness out of it.

[00:24:41] So like in the original, they have these like cool like silvery jumpsuits. And the aliens all look like really like it's like Kobo the carrot man and shit. And then this all of them have like black jumpsuits. Like it's like very much of a piece with

[00:24:54] like the Bryan Singer X-Men where it's like Bryan Singer X-Men. Right. We're not going for realism. Like it's not like fucking 2001 Space Odyssey where they look like practical ships. But we're also not letting any kind of like exciting creative stylization. Excuse me.

[00:25:09] And I'm going to bring us back bubble. And then like a shark's mouth sort of wing around like it's eating the bubble and from that guns like one gun, right? Sort of goes like this bubble. Yeah. It's a bubble fight.

[00:25:24] So as we know, as William Hurt tells us Earth's not doing so hot. They built a hyper gate. Oh, sure. Hyper gate to hyper gate over to spin in space now. So is this a pre spinning in space kind of reference? Can I throw out my hot tech?

[00:25:41] We're already tech telling around. This movie's interstellar for morons. Yeah. This movie has the exact same plot as interstellar. It is a similar plot to interstellar except interstellar doesn't have a cricky and thought through element that this movie has. Blart. Blart for sure. But no, the global sedition.

[00:26:01] No corn. But they talk about like there's no food left. Yeah. I know I get the idea. Earth is uninhabitable. Everyone's interstellar in the idea of Earth being uninhabitable and us leaving. Correct. Lost in space created. That's my point. That is global.

[00:26:16] It is weirdly if you go back and watch the trailers what the trailers for this movie focused on of like the earth is uninhabitable and now they have to go like save us which like does not seem like the pitch

[00:26:27] for a Lost in Space movie which is supposed to be a fun space adventure not about like the apocle. This family has to save humanity but also they I can't believe we're not talking about the global sedition. There's the overlap. That's because they disappear.

[00:26:40] No, they are a crucial threat. The global sedition global. He's turning my mic down as I try to warn viewers and listeners. Can we I feel like I know we've already started. It's a great name global sedition. I know we've already started talking about the movie

[00:26:55] but can the brother Sims get into your relationship with this film? Yeah, I think it's important. I'm a customer context and I need some baby. Global sedition off to the side for the table. Table it. I'll hold it right here for you. Thank you, Ben.

[00:27:10] So I have no memory of seeing this movie in theaters. You did see it in theaters. You did. But I was what was I nine? 1998 or yeah, you know you were like eight or nine. Yeah, you weren't even nine yet because this movie came out April 1998.

[00:27:23] We'll talk about the box office. It's a movie occupies an interesting a great point in box of it's the icebreaker. Yes, it is. It's the iceberg. We were in New York. I remember this very clearly. Visiting because we lived in London. You too. I was also there.

[00:27:44] He was there as well. I really he really lived in London. Only one person really grew up in London. When we moved, I was five and he was nine. Not to derail your narrative on your podcast, but I think that's fair. I think it should be spoken of.

[00:28:00] But we were in New York apparently. I don't remember this. I have a terrible memory. In the spring and what movie did I want to see lost in space, baby? Yeah. Now our cousin Rebecca, I had invited her to see it.

[00:28:15] We wanted to see it with her because I think we'd been in some sort of family occasion and she refused to see this movie. Why? Because Lacey Shabaret was in it. I was going to guess that. Yes. Mockingly, jokingly.

[00:28:27] Rebecca who if I was when this movie came out, I was 12. She was probably like 15, 16 and hated Lacey Shabaret because of party of five. Okay. Hated her so much because she was the whiny girl from party of five. Right. I mean this is pre-Wildthorn Berries.

[00:28:44] Yeah, Wildthorn Berries starts up this year too. Pre-Mean Girls. This is Lacey Shabaret trying to make Blark happen. She's, oh God. No, Lacey Shabaret who I want to be clear is 100% the best performance of my favorite part of this movie. Oh, 100% Penny vision. We're all going there.

[00:29:02] I mean, you know, all here takes about Jared Harris but no, no, no, no. But she didn't want to see it because that's how much he hated Lacey Shabaret which maybe it was just personal preference. But when I was a kid really instilled in me that

[00:29:14] Lacey Shabaret was a very polarizing actor. Yeah. And she does have a really reedy voice. She has this really intensely specific voice. Sure, she's got dog whistle voice. And I guess it really bugged my cousin. I like her voice but it is definitely and also

[00:29:30] this movie like filters it, you know, through like voice recording technology so it sort of accentuates it. And this movie's take on the character is what if she was horribly unpleasant? What if she was a regular 12 year old? Sure. I love it. She's supposed to be 12 in this?

[00:29:48] 14 maybe? Okay. Like, I don't know, something like that? What do you think? 14 sounds more correct. This mission sucks. This mission sucks. Maybe 14. Kids, they're going to be virgins for the rest of their lives I guess basically, right? Because they're getting set into space with their fucking family.

[00:30:03] Nothing about the colonization anyway. I'm going to get back to that. I thought of that right away. I was like, damn, that sucks. Especially your 14, your horny as fuck. Yeah, she's horny. I like how horny she is. Nothing about bringing them along makes any sense

[00:30:15] but we don't have to. That sucks. But that's the premise of the show. That's the premise of the show and that's... That's LeBlanc's entire pickup technique. Truly, that's what he keeps hitting is like, look, I mean it's only a couple of us. The constricting line?

[00:30:27] Guys, we'll get to that. Stop sidetracking us. So you've seen theaters. We saw it in theaters at the AMC Lincoln Square. Good theater. It was whatever it was called back then. I think it was an AMC. I saw it at the... What's that theater called?

[00:30:41] The one, the one two three that's on like... Yeah, I see cinemas. Over on the east side. It freaked you out a little bit. You didn't... You were pretty little. You did not love the Spider-Man. Future Smith? I still freak Smith out. I think it's pretty scary.

[00:30:55] I think it's a scary, scarily badly potted. I think that it is as with many other things in this movie, I don't know, larbing disconnect from what's around it. It's so scary looking in a movie that is theoretically for kids. That is true.

[00:31:11] It's like the design is weird. It also kind of pops out of nowhere. It's like, why did they go this far? And it comes out of nowhere. No one is expecting a huge Spider-Man. No one thinks that's where we're going.

[00:31:19] I was expecting his skins a little different or whatever. He's got some spider bubbles on him. But no, he is a 15 foot spider. That's the other weird thing about this movie. Sort of. I was reading articles from the time when it came out

[00:31:33] because this was presented as being a big blockbuster. It was a big blockbuster. Big-ish, $80 million budget. This was one of the first cracks doing a big spring blockbuster. And New Line is in an interesting transitional phase at this point.

[00:31:48] This is them trying to make a huge sci-fi movie for them, certainly. They were... yeah, whatever. But when everyone was like, why would Gary Oldman sign on to Lost in Space? And he was like, I want to make a family film.

[00:31:58] I wanted to make a movie my kids could see. And I'm like, right, this is ostensibly... It is a family film. In that it starts as a family. No, right. Well, okay. All right. So we see it... You were a little freaked out by Spider-Guy.

[00:32:09] I see it again in theaters. I saw this movie twice in theaters. I think I saw it twice in theaters. Because I saw it again at the Parkeslow Pavilion. So it was all within my trip to America that I saw it.

[00:32:17] And then I bought it on VHS the minute it came out. And so that's where we would just watch it over and over again. You watched it constantly. Constantly. Yes. And like it was back in the day, that was all we had. Was our VHS. Yeah.

[00:32:30] And this is what I was trying to find with you. It was like one of those movies that we watched over and over again. And this is... It's just a perfect one. I'll say the space... I want to do SWAT. We've talked about it on the show. Yes.

[00:32:41] But we almost did SWAT. I later kind of realized as Joey's kind of like, I think you might like SWAT more than I like SWAT. Uh-huh. Or like more might more be a sess with SWAT than Joey is with SWAT. And then SWAT came out in 03.

[00:32:52] I went to college in 04. It may have been more of a college movie for me. Sure. I may have misattributed it to like, to Joey. I don't know what do you think? I don't know. I rewatched it when we were considering SWAT. Yeah.

[00:33:02] I think SWAT is a pretty weird movie that there would have been a lot to say about it. SWAT's weird. SWAT's weird. Uh, it's sort of fun but also quite sleepy. And the cast of course is ridiculous. Cast is crazy.

[00:33:14] The cast is almost the best thing about it. We mostly have talked about the cast. Yes. And then Joey suggested Superman Returns, which I said we can't do because we have to hold off for when we do the podgeual sus casts. The podgeual sus casts, our brain singer.

[00:33:30] I mean, I understand what you're trying to do. Pod in the giant cast. I don't know. Pod in the cast layer. Come on, that's sweaty. At pod cast. The dad, the bad and the cat. I mostly just wanted to argue with Griffin about Kate Bosworth,

[00:33:46] who I think is amazing in Superman Returns. She's so good in that movie. I think everything is amazing in Superman Returns and so does David. I think like everything else in that movie is amazing. I think it's a total masterpiece.

[00:33:57] I would have talked about it for way too long because it's also so long there's so much to discuss. Yeah, there's a lot in that movie. But then you threw it Lost In Space and I realized, oh yeah, we've watched Lost In Space a lot.

[00:34:07] And then I realized it was on Netflix. I threw it on Netflix and within 10 minutes I realized I knew every line to this movie. And I was slightly horrified at myself because I hadn't seen it in probably 10 years. Sure. Then Joanna came home and was like,

[00:34:18] what are you watching? I was Lost In Space and she was like, I've watched this so many times for some reason. Yes. Joanna? Yeah, I know. It's weird, right? That's weird. But she used to rent it all the time. I don't think I ever watched it at home.

[00:34:29] I think I saw it twice in theaters. There was this span from like 97 to 98, early 98, right? That was big for me because I was not allowed to watch like most blockbusters, action movies, sci-fi movies, comedies, the grime, I almost super overprotective.

[00:34:47] And this was a span where like the door started to creak open a little bit and the three I distinctly remember just like unabashedly going like, or the four I would say. There was like masterpiece, masterpiece. Perfect. Were not in order, Lost In Space,

[00:35:02] Lost World Jurassic Park, Godzilla and Batman and Robin. Okay, now rank those movies now. Now? Yes. And we're talking about Roland Emmerich's Godzilla to be clear. All four of them I thought were great because I had no context. And two of those movies were written by Keva Golds.

[00:35:18] I was going to say this one. The through line in so many of the movies that it sounds like you but definitely me, love from those years from my childhood is a one particular name and that's Keva Golds. But also at this point in time,

[00:35:30] I hadn't seen any of the other Batman movies. I hadn't seen Jurassic Park. I hadn't seen Independence Day. Like I'm seeing the shittier versions of the movies that everyone else loved. And because I hadn't seen them, I was like, this is amazing. It's a movie with spaceships.

[00:35:45] Yeah, right, right. Batman's in a movie? How can you top that? Everyone's like it's the fifth Batman movie. Like what are you talking about? How would I rank those four today? Seriously, it's hard to pick a number one. I think Lost World is number one.

[00:35:59] I agree but it's a soft one. It's a soft one. I think Lost World is number one. I think... I think this is number two. I think Godzilla is number two for me. Oh God, that movie is rough. What do we know about her? She's 500 feet tall.

[00:36:15] Oh no, I'm fucking up the line. The line is what do we know about him? He's 500 feet tall. He weighs 6,000 pounds. He's storming through New York City and he's pregnant? Is that Broderick? Yeah, I'm like paraphrasing, but it's the line where he realizes that Godzilla is more like...

[00:36:33] Momzilla. Yeah. Yeah, more like Momzilla. So we watch it constantly on VHS and the reason I mentioned this mission sucks before is that I feel like I have a memory and I don't know if this is a correct memory

[00:36:43] that I feel like that is the line that we would the most to sort of say back and forth at each other at random moments and like our mother would not have any idea what we were talking about. This mission sucks. This mission sucks. I guess so.

[00:36:55] I do remember that. We had many little weird end jokes like that. It is true that this mission does suck objectively. The line has been said. This mission sucks. It's weird that she's just realizing this, but it's a great hard cut. What's the tagline for this movie?

[00:37:11] Get Lost? That was one of the taglines for this movie. It's just such a gimme. Along with... Especially for 1998. Exactly. Along with Danger Will Robinson. Yeah, cool. Great tagline. Yeah, one of the best. But that was the iconic line from the show. It was.

[00:37:26] That was like an installable button. And also launch at the date. Well, fuck that. Sorry. That's what I got for you. So let's go back to the Apollo 440 theme song that plays at the end of this movie. Bubble Fighters.

[00:37:46] So we opened and yeah, we're told like Earth Failing, Hypergate, and apparently the other... They built the other Hypergate. What is... They don't explain it at all. They're going to build it when they get there. Isn't that the idea? No, but the idea is that I guess so.

[00:38:01] I guess that's it. They build the other Hypergate and then people will be able to jump to wherever they go, and then humanity will be saved. Am I getting that right? The Hypergate isn't even like a wormhole. It's just a navigator.

[00:38:12] Like you go through it and it just helps you go to the right spot. Right. Okay, so they're going to build this Hypergate, but unfortunately the evil global sedition is against this Hypergate. Dun dun dun. Why? No idea. No idea. Oh mankind.

[00:38:25] Very hard to understand what their problem is with this thing. Because they want to go instead. I think it's just the fighting for who's going to colonize. I guess so, but like why don't they build their own Hypergate? Are they trying to sabotage this Hypergate while they build

[00:38:38] their own Hypergate? Because then all the other people will then be at the planet. They want the planet. They're saying that they are trying to sabotage the mission because they want to be the ones who colonize instead of the Robinsons?

[00:38:48] Well, or whatever the Robinsons are working on behalf of. So their cock blockers is what they are. But at the same time there's also supposed to be this idea. Something you're saying. Hold on, hold on. That people think the world... Hold on, hold on.

[00:39:01] Wait, what am I trying to say? You're saying the cock blockers. Yeah. Okay fine. I thought I should just go right past that. It was good instinct. At the same time there's supposed to be this idea that most people

[00:39:15] apparently think the Robinsons thing is a stunt and that the planet is going to be saved through like environmental technology. Right. This is when the first real like note of interstellar hits me is that scene where they're like actually what you know is... Psychic technologies came too late.

[00:39:29] We've been lying about everything. Everyone's fucked. Yeah, that's what William Hurd says that the ozone is at 40%, which is the line I really love. Yeah, that's great. That's just like half the earth should just be scorched. People should be dying of cancer in this tree.

[00:39:44] This is huge dial up on the screen of like where's the ozone at and every now and then it goes down. Everyone's like, oh boy. Shit. We had it this month with the recycling technology. That's why I thought they chose to have the desert hologram

[00:39:55] thing because like I was just assuming the whole planet's fucking desert for the most part. Okay, but bubble craft. There's a great scene of bubble craft. Bubble fighters. Bubble fighters. He got Leblanc. He's bubble fighter one. Yeah. He just got hot.

[00:40:09] That's the other one we were always saying to each other. We would say that to each other all the time. Lenny James. Cold war just got hot. He's so good. Really? It was a cold war? I don't get it.

[00:40:22] You've built bubble fighters to deal with a war that's never happened, but then they always talk about how he's a war hero. Yes. So he fought in some war. Right. It sounds pretty hot to me. No, but this cold war just got hot.

[00:40:35] Do you want to hear my Leblanc take? Yeah. Lenny James is just really down. Lenny James has aged like he's de-aged since this movie. Bizarre. He seems like he's 58 years old in this movie. Right, right. He looks younger in The Walking Dead.

[00:40:51] He does and his voice is like 80% less gravelly now. Right. Like what happened to him? It's like how like Wilford Bramley was like 32 in cocoon. Yes. You know how Wilford Bramley was like 40 in cocoon? I know. I know. Mike Ryan points that out a lot. Right.

[00:41:08] Wilford Bramley is a comically old looking person, but Wilford Bramley never got younger looking. You know what I mean? That's the point because you see him show up in like did you hear about the morgans? It's like has Wilford Bramley been crowd genically frozen? What the fuck happened?

[00:41:19] Okay. Here's the Leblanc. Lenny James had more of a Piven arc where it's like he somehow got younger. Sure. Here's my Leblanc take. They offered him this role. Apparently it was originally Sean Patrick Flannery. Yes. What? The Boondock Saint Hemsworth. Leblanc was cast. Number two. No, number three.

[00:41:37] These guys were number 11 and 12. I'm sorry. Very good call. They hire Sean Patrick Flannery. Then when they put them all together they realize or they decide that they look, he looks too much like the Robinsons. He looks too much like Bill Hurt. He does have the same, yeah.

[00:41:53] William Hurt has sort of Irish look to him. Right. Yeah. They said we need a different look. I don't even know if he's Irish. So of course they go who do we get? Who do you get? Let's look at the big action star.

[00:42:02] Let's look to the cast of friends and of course they offer the role straight to Matthew Perry who turns it down. I swear to you. No, this is not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's 100% true. He knows this shit. IMDB, they offered it to Matthew Perry.

[00:42:16] He turned it down and then they went to Leblanc. That's just rude. I mean this is also when Matthew Perry is gripped by prescription drug addiction. Yes. So maybe he was like I'm 110 pounds right now. You don't want me playing a part of it.

[00:42:26] But he also had like done a couple of romcoms at this point. He'd done that. But he's not going to play this role. Of course not. Because at least like what you're looking for, right?

[00:42:33] So I think Leblanc gets this role and he goes okay this is my chance to be Harrison Ford. I know I play a shitty actor on TV who wants to be playing this type of role. And audiences have seen me do a bad impression of someone.

[00:42:47] You fake but good acting. Good bad acting. I need to work as hard as I can to push all the Joey Tribionni away from this character. Which in the process makes it feel like the exact performance Joey Tribionni would give. That's the thing.

[00:43:01] He doesn't say how you're doing but like he might as well be Joey Tribionni. But it feels like Joey Tribionni being like no I gotta be taken seriously. Like that's the problem. If he played it more like Joey. Great Joey. Thank you.

[00:43:11] It probably didn't help that he was filming Friends at the same time as he was filming this movie. Exactly. That's really what happened him. But I think if he played it more like Joey Tribionni, not the performance would

[00:43:21] be good but it would be better than what we got where he's just in every scene being like what's the opposite of what Joey would do. But also dialogue is terrible. Dialogue is fucking nightmare.

[00:43:31] He saddled with night and he saddled with the worst dialogue because he has to do all these one line. That's a cold fish I'd like to thaw. Do I have that right? You have that absolutely right. That's the cold fish I'd like to thaw.

[00:43:41] He says to the cold fishes father. Monkey flips the switch. And the monkey flips the switch. He has so many more. If this is, if this is, what was it? If this is a dream wire, they're more girls.

[00:43:52] Which yeah, which he says it has no relation to anything around it. It's just something that they shot one day. They were like on set and they were like, Matt, can you just sit down and we're going to shoot

[00:44:00] you saying if this is a dream wire aren't there more girls? And then we're just going to find somewhere in the movie where we can just insert that. We'll put that in because it's when they see like the time bubble. Yeah.

[00:44:10] So he performs the daring rescue of Lenny James in Bubblecraft. He gets him a little love tap but don't take this the wrong way. Don't take this the wrong way. Hey, what are we married now? Oh my God. I want to marry you Lenny James.

[00:44:20] Look, I'm just kidding. When's the wedding? Like I think they want to get married. I think the central thing is he doesn't want to be ripped apart from Lenny James. Stop ostentatiously changing my level and I like to yell and that's why he's objecting

[00:44:36] to be putting on this mission because I want to be on this mission if the earth is dying. Let's get out of here. But he's like, you don't need a fighter. You don't need like a real pilot like a train monkey right monkey flips this way. Okay.

[00:44:49] So what do we think of the first action scene which after which immediately after which like the last line is like, you know, I mean we're married now getting out of buying these beers that easy.

[00:45:00] Literally the second after that line is uttered the title sort of like swooshes across the screen in like a weird font that you can barely read because it's like cool. What in this movie does that thing where like this is very Goldsman-y but like sets up

[00:45:14] the like, hey, you know, you owe me beers after this. And then when Lenny James almost dies does the like you get out of beers that easily 80 seconds in between the setup and the punch line. That's an endearing like space rescue.

[00:45:28] But that joke works if you set it up at the beginning and it pays off at the very end right or at least an act later but the movie like doesn't give you time to

[00:45:38] like no it's distracted you with a bunch of gay panic humor and then it's like, oh, we're back to the beer. This cold war just got hot. The funniest of all panic humor. Love a panic humor.

[00:45:50] Yeah, but then they just flash the title and LeBlanc saves him and everyone's like, you're fucking irresponsible. You're bad. And why is it irresponsible? It's not. They're basically not ever endangering the spacecraft. He's killed the global sedition. I guess what it also worked like everything worked.

[00:46:05] The bubble crab was going to fly into the hyper gate. It's not like the bubble crab was just gonna like die. He was like, he was actively stopping David. I don't know why you need to explain this.

[00:46:14] Everyone knows that the bubble craft was going to crash into the hyper gate and destroy the global sedition. Everyone knows this. So they've already bungled his introduction because he's supposed to be this crazy like I'm going to do my own thing guy but he did something that was

[00:46:28] complete and they commit try to commit to that but he never does anything to justify it. Well, actually there is something that's later. He also has weird little eye targeting that doesn't come back. That's just the one time.

[00:46:41] What do you think of the special effects in this scene? It looks like a PS3 game. Looks like Red Alert 2. It doesn't look good. It doesn't. But it makes me realize how good video games have gotten. It's true because they could do this now. Totally.

[00:46:56] Even when it cuts to like the live action like Leblanc element, I'm like the rendering is pretty good where this could just be like a PS3, PS4 game. It's like the era of like now we can make like the entire battle in CG.

[00:47:07] We don't need to do models for anything and they can like get the textures right but there's no way to anything and the lighting is off on everything. And the design on both ships are weird. Is bad. Is bad. Is bad. Okay.

[00:47:21] And then as you say this movie just like hits the ground running and like needs to get going really, really fast. So then we cut to Dr. Hobby giving a speech about whether or not we can create love, right? That's correct.

[00:47:32] And he opens up a woman's face and you know Ken lungs there to take her shirt off and Ken lungs there. Yeah, he's given a speech who cares. I don't even know about a paper space. I'm going to reporters and they're and they're covering up the fact

[00:47:46] that they're pilot was murdered. That's right. They're like what about his illness and then the general was like anyway the general who is Don West from the TV show. I believe he comes like a please please no questions about this incredibly insane mission. It's fine. It's all fine.

[00:48:03] Let's scull him off. He meets with William Hurt. I mean with Matt LeBlanc, right? And they tell him is a pilot that his friend who he thought was sick has been murdered. Yeah. And that the world which he thought was saved by recycling technology is in fact not.

[00:48:18] Yeah. And he says we should pulse, pulse blast their bases. Which tells us that apparently the, uh, we have post-bast technology and the sedition has bases. I don't know where the bases are. What's going on with all that? Sure, let's pulse blast them.

[00:48:33] I did not pick up on that. And he says also this man was born on earth, but he was not supposed to die here. Do not go gently into that good night. Don West says all that. Yes. So he's hired.

[00:48:45] Because William Hurt likes to be stuck up for his friend. It's not really clear what he likes. He says he'll do after he's like the guy's like so you sabotaged or you went into disobeying disobeying in the water and put technology at risk to save our friend.

[00:49:01] And he's like, yes sir, I did sir. Yeah. And William Hurt says he'll do. He's supposed to be like William Hurt's father is the vague idea that is not referenced that much, but is there in the movie. You mean William Hurt's supposed to be like his father?

[00:49:13] Oh, he's supposed to be like a kind of William Hurt's war hero father. Right. Because he says like I studied your father's battle techniques. This movie is also about kids who look up to dads who promise they're coming home and don't. This is true. Like interstellar.

[00:49:27] All right, stop comparing this movie to interstellar. You could have done all this on the interstellar episode when it would have been appropriate because I think Christopher Nolan ripped off this movie. Yeah. I mean, I think it's fair. Also, I don't know if you know, Tars was an

[00:49:41] executive producer on this movie. Well, Blarp was an executive producer on interstellar. I know. There's double dipping going on. Blarp, yeah, he's a vice president of acquisition's impairment. But we're going to have ourselves. Okay. So now we come back to the Robinson family.

[00:49:56] We got to meet them all. Right. And here's Mrs. Kensington. Just say the actors. Me and Rogers. I'm stealing Jaroswit. Uh-huh. Vanessa Kensington's mom. Stop it. She's more famous. She's famous for other roles. I haven't seen her. Not recently. Not recently. Well, she's in Doran the Floor. Sure.

[00:50:20] Classic. The Rapture. Sure. She's in Ginger Snaps, which is a good movie. I'm sort of her father was a high ranking official in Scientology and she married Tom Cruise. She famously got Tom Cruise into Scientology and then left Scientology and was like Scientology's real wacky.

[00:50:39] I don't know what Tom's doing. Which is funny. Playing one of the most thankless roles I have ever seen in this movie. She gets nothing. Nothing. She gets nothing to do in this movie. The character apparently has some kind of role in

[00:50:52] the mission, but it's never really explained. It's true. Or there are no details. The mission is five people. Three of them have seemed to have no role at all. Right. Like it's really just William Hurt and Heather Graham's show. Yeah.

[00:51:04] And Heather Graham's job seems to mostly be the cryopods. Right. William Hurt's job is the rest of it. And then it's like what they're supposed to colonize? They're a family. Yeah. What are they going to fuck each other? Like what is this plan?

[00:51:14] I mean, I don't mean to be crass, but like, Ben's kind of right. That's right. Like what's the plan here? You got like, William Hurt is what? 50? Big Hurt? 50 at least. Mimi Rogers is around there. Heather Graham's like early 20s. He's probably late 30s at this. Right.

[00:51:31] I mean, what the hell is this? Like what is these are the people you select? Leblanc just going to slip that Italian salam to everybody. But pass her on the Gabagool. I don't know what's going on here. Anyway, yes, we're introduced to her. See, he's doing legend.

[00:51:48] No more monkey. No more monkey business. No more monkey business to quote, to quote Mimi Rogers. Your favorite quote. No more monkey business and the principle that she's talking to is. Who is original Miss Robinson? She turned into a gorilla. That's very good.

[00:52:03] With a bikini gorilla with a bikini. This is when you realize that Will Robinson is Dexter's lab. Yeah, he is right. He is Dexter's lab. The smartest little boy in the world. All he cares about is science fairs. Right. And Lacey Shebares, Dee Dee. Right.

[00:52:17] Even though Will Robinson is this close to cracking time travel, the only thing he cares about is his dad showing up at a fucking science fair. Right. His dad never shows up. No. And Lacey Shebares, who hates everything. It's 14, hates everything it is like. Well. She's really mo.

[00:52:33] That reminds me of the birthday messages I got for four years until I stopped getting them. Great job. She sounds like a muppet. Yeah. She's awesome. She's my best friend. Her name is Penny. She has a TV show called Penny Vision that no one can watch. Yeah.

[00:52:46] It's a weird. I mean, she was sort of like the original. She has a vlog. She was the original vlogger. She's recording her life. She's got a fucking vlog. Yeah. And it's like on a wristband. It's cool.

[00:52:55] She's got a lot of like, sort of like tank top over shirt with cargo pants. That's like kind of her look. Sure. It's like a really defined like late 90s. Like, I don't know how do you have the. How about on Carter stole her fight club look from.

[00:53:11] Anyway, it's exactly what I make up. Yes. She's a weirdly layered. Slightly pale, like, you know, highlighted hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She kind of rebel. It's not clear exactly what she's doing. But the mom at one point says she's being brought home by security every night. Oh, right.

[00:53:27] So maybe she's like fighting the global sedition herself. She misses chocolate. She misses kissing. Oh God. Billy. I believe is her boyfriend. She looks like a character that you would pick at the loading screen of crazy taxi. There you go. I figured it out.

[00:53:45] You know, down to like the spiky hair. Yes. Yes. Yes. 12 comedy points. Yes. Yes. So I love her. She's my favorite character. I wish the movie was called Penny in Space. Sure. That'd be great. But no, they're all going in space.

[00:54:01] Matt Lamont's going to drive them and then and then as we're just racing through this, we really are racing through this is like 12 minutes maybe and like the opening battle scene is like seven. And then Gary Oldman shows up. He's in desert.

[00:54:15] He's talking to someone else who has like a really weird voice. Yeah. No, Gary Oldman in this movie is trying to serve up a plate of perjudo. Oh, oh boy. He's trying to pretend it isn't ham. Oh, yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

[00:54:29] He's like, well, this is finally cut. It's aged. Right. Come on. It's ham. No, this is, I know ham when I had no ham. I know. This is supermarket two days after the expiration date.

[00:54:39] Ham because what he's done is he's taken his sandwich from his ham sandwich from the fifth element left it in the fridge. He's brought it out a week later and he's like, no, no, no, no. Gourmet. Right. Because no, because that's the thing.

[00:54:52] He's in this villain run, but all the other villains he's been doing are really big, right? Air Force one, Leon, even like his small role in true romance. Yeah. He's going like huge cartoonish and this he's like, I'm trying to just give you a touch of the ham.

[00:55:06] We try to be elegant, but this performance is completely bonkers. What do you think of this performance? I love, I love this performance. I think he's fun. Purely. I think he's amazing, whether intentionally or not it feels like he is just commenting

[00:55:20] on how terrible this movie is and how he's just trying to make the very best of it that he can. I agree. And this is the best character from the original show and the best performance in the original show. Jonathan Freeman, I believe is his name. Yeah.

[00:55:31] Who was like not even supposed to be the star of the show. And he kind of just broke out because he was like, oh, I hate the families. You know, everyone was like this guy's who I want. I don't even get it.

[00:55:41] But this might make some weird decision because with that it was like, oh, he's entering nincompoops. Right. It was like, it was a lot of alliteration. If I remember correctly and I haven't watched the show in forever. Yeah.

[00:55:51] But if I remember correctly, he was like secretly the like turn coat within the group. He was always like a risk. Sure. This movie they know he's the villain from minute one. They do. The whole movie is just a question of how to deal with him.

[00:56:05] I know they should kill him. Right. They should fucking airlock him. In the original series, I believe they just hire him as the doctor and they don't know that the doctor on the ship hates them. I thought he sabotaged them.

[00:56:17] I think the original series is a very similar premise to this. But I'm saying they bring him on and then he sabotages them. I get what you're saying. Well, he's supposed to be the doctor on this ship. No, he's not.

[00:56:26] No, he's not supposed to be on the ship. He's not supposed to be on the ship, but he did invent the cryo technology. Right. They mentioned him. Which is why he has access and is able to do whatever. But he's being paid by the global sedition.

[00:56:39] Can I just do a quick merchandise spotlight? Yeah. So there were a lot of toys for this movie. It is very toyetic. Right. A lot of elements like they all came with fucking spiders that did different things or whatever. And also, I mean the designs are so good.

[00:56:53] I mean, how do you not capitalize on this? All these suits. Cryo suits. Sure. The ship looks kind of cool. I want to get to the ship because I have a lot of feelings about it. I do agree with you.

[00:57:04] There were three different smiths that were produced, which is weird because it's like rarely... It's just a guy. And he's the villain of the movie. Well, is one of the smiths a spider smith? One of them is the spider smith, which they packaged with a covering

[00:57:17] over it so you couldn't see. Like there was like a spoiler box. Sure. It was just called Future Smith and you didn't know what you were buying. Okay. Then one smith is just like Smith in the black jumpsuit.

[00:57:28] But the one I want to get to is an action figure from this scene, which feels like a weird thing to make a toy out of. And it's called Sabotage Action Doctor Smith. When he's got his little box that he does sabotage with.

[00:57:41] And you're like, what's the sabotage action? No action feature. It's not like there's like some fucking sabotage action. It does. They tried to make it sound exciting. It's just him in like a maroon jacket. And it's called Sabotage Action Doctor Smith. All right. Thank you. No more merchandise.

[00:57:58] That was the spotlight. I finished it. Turn him down now. That was the spotlight. Go ahead. I don't recall if he's supposed to be a believer in the sedition. I don't think he is right. He's just some make a lot of money. Whoever's the right price, right?

[00:58:11] For the right price. I'll join any side. That's kind of the thing. Well, that's his whole monologue that he gives when he's been uncovered where he's like, I see the world differently from everyone else. You don't remember that monologue. He's taking the red pill.

[00:58:24] He is a bit of a red pill. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. To give my regard guards to oblivion. That's something he says. Never fear. Smith is here. He says a lot. In some ways, the movie doesn't... Once they're on... Once they're off adventuring after they have defeated his plan.

[00:58:45] In some ways, the movie never really again figures out what to do with him. But I still think he's amazing because I think Oldman is just so good. He's got that scene with Will at the end that's amazing. In the chamber, that's like... Right.

[00:58:57] Where he's talking over to giving him the gun or... Yes. With that amazing composite shot over his shoulder. Oh, there's a fucking split to happen or shot? Yes. Which I was like, damn. I miss those. Yeah. And in all of those, he just does wonders with this horrible...

[00:59:14] It's brutal. People have been dialogue with the rest of them. Have no idea what to do with that. Because no idea what to do with it. Oldman is like, I know. Here's what you need and here it is. Right. He's been here before.

[00:59:27] He's like, oh, I find myself in this river again. Great. So I can handle this. Where he's like, Willian Smith is like, no. I mean, Willian Hurts. I will escape. He climbs into the vents and tries to sabotage the ship, which he does.

[00:59:38] But then they electrocute him because they're like, fuck you. Yeah. They just sort of leave him on there to die. And then he's like, he's sitting onto his hand. They think he's dead, but then after the Robinsons get into their

[00:59:49] cryo chambers and go to sleep, after Leblanc tries to slip the Gabba Google. And after the monkey flips the switch. The monkey flips the switch. So the Jupiter one is like this big launcher. It launches the thing, it goes in this space and it splits

[01:00:03] apart and then we got Jupiter two. I love that. Yeah. I love it too. That's a good shot. That's the kind of thing that movies like this do that I just love so much. The whole take off sequence with the guy at the like control of the ship.

[01:00:14] You are never seen before and never seen again on your command. Apparently he's like major West's best friend even though he's never seen before. He probably should be Lenny James that might have made more sense, but whatever it doesn't matter. This launcher.

[01:00:23] And then you have that reveal which I guess is a reference also to the original show, but I don't even know that. Is it? Is that the idea that the old one looks more like their ugly ship from the TV show and then it like breaks

[01:00:35] apart and it looks cool and modern. Yes. Which they do the opposite thing with the robot. This ship is a flying saucer. Right. It's like a literal flying saucer. Right. The Jupiter 2 in this movie kind of I decided looks like it looks like a Ford Escort from like 1998.

[01:00:50] Like it's all rounded, you know, like there are just no edges at all. I think it looks like a certain era of Sony Walkman. Yeah. It looks like a Walkman. You remember that? When they started doing like colored Walkman.

[01:01:02] Or like a motor roll of pebble, you know where they were just like round. It's got everything should be round just like blobs. Everything looks like a blob. I had a metallic blue Walkman that looked just like the Jupiter 2.

[01:01:15] But it's just and it's I think it's just what happens to cars at that time in the mid 90s where they're like no more edges round like yes. And I love the design of the Jupiter 2. I actually like the sets of the ship. They're a little sterile.

[01:01:31] But like I think it looks okay. Yeah, I agree. I think it looks okay. It's nice to see a set in any circumstance. That's what I was going to say. It's cool that it's a set. This movie has a lot of sets. Really fancy sets.

[01:01:42] I miss big sets. Big for real sets. It has a couple matte paintings like yes. Okay, so this was the desk man I had. Yeah, that looks exactly like the Jupiter 2. I remember that. We'll tweet it but there we go. We'll tweet it. That was my guy.

[01:01:55] That was my main guy. It was an appetite for destruction on that dude every day. Yeah, they build all these cool sets. But given the fact that they had all this money and they could build all these huge sets, I think it feels somewhat overwhelming underwhelming.

[01:02:07] It's a little bit. If you had all of that space, because most of the space on the ship is just nothing. It's true. A lot of running. Running console. Right. Everything happens at with really stupid looking chairs. But it's also not like that was a deliberate design aesthetic.

[01:02:20] It's not like they were going for a sparse minimalism. It's just like they ran out of shit. I know they just only had a certain number of ideas. The chairs also go up and down at one point. You're right though. And that's pretty much it.

[01:02:31] The chairs are a little weird because they have these like tubes that sort of like, you know, rest on the back of your head. These weird sort of like beetle shell. I would argue it's one of the least active,

[01:02:43] like someone at the controls I've ever seen in a movie. I feel like there's no steering wheel. There's one scene where Matt LeBon has something that he sort of tilts up and down. It suddenly appears before that when they want to go forward or back or shoot things,

[01:02:56] he just like taps a button in the way that I would tap my iPhone. And he's putting in that much effort. And the monkey flips the switch. We all know it's the icon. All right, so, but they're all in cryo sleep. Robot wakes up.

[01:03:07] Now I love the design of robot because it's like, what if a robot was bad? Shitty and was stupid and it looked bad. And also, I know you're talking about design, but in terms of characterization, their take is what if a robot had zero shell? No, it's sabotage.

[01:03:21] Sabotage ship. Sabotage ship. Kill Robinson. Kill Robinson family. He has to announce everything that he's doing. Gary Oldman. How else would we know? I know he's very subtle otherwise with his four arms that shoot electricity, but like two main ones.

[01:03:37] It's like what if there's like a robot torso with arms, right? And like a head, but then he's on top of like more arms. What lies beneath? Rated R playing at AMC village seven. He's voiced by the original robot guy, right? Like Dick Tuffield. Mr. Movie Funstead.

[01:03:58] He destroys things for a while, but then they wake up and they there's one really weirdly brutal scene where he's going to electro blast the girls. Sure. And Mimi Rogers is clutching Lacey Shabare to her like bosom and saying look away baby.

[01:04:15] Look away, which is like not something you need to include in this scene. You know what I mean? And immediately that's when Will is like comes out with his like robot obey me now, you know, like and saves the day.

[01:04:27] But like that's a quite a note to put in there at the last second of that action sequence. So they all wake up. Sabotage has been done. Dr. Smith is there. He's got sedition burn on his hand now that Oldman is awake

[01:04:39] and he realizes the sabotage ship would kill him right. All he cares about is on life. Sure. But he's got the fucking thing and then they immediately realized he's a piece of shit and he fucked this up. But Judy's chamber won't open.

[01:04:52] So he's like got to make a choice. Right. And he's like, give me a word as an officer that you won't kill me. And then meanwhile while that is happening they're also creaning into an enormous sun. They're creaning into the sun so they use the hyperdrive

[01:05:07] to go through the sun. Yes. Because the hyperdrive as we've been told in William Hertz detailed lecture. Where are we going? Anywhere but here. Right. If you don't have the hypergate then you just end up somewhere. Right.

[01:05:19] I don't want to waste it but LeBlanc is like trust me on this one. Let's talk about Heather Graham for a little bit. Sure. Her role in this movie, her character's function is to be the stickler, to be the pro. Right.

[01:05:32] She's sort of the data of the next generation or whatever. It is one of the least convincing depictions of authority I have ever seen. I mean. Her one job is to go oh shit you got to listen to her. She knows what she's talking about.

[01:05:47] And every scene she kind of shrugs off like well it looks like her gas is pretty low. She's a year off of Boogie Nights. That's in 97. New Line was trying to make her a star. Like she had these three big new line movies.

[01:06:00] She's in Awesome Powers which is New Line. Comes out the following year. Yeah. And she's in Bowfinger the next year. Which is one of only two good performances she's given. I would argue. Yeah I think Boogie Nights and Bowfinger are the two good

[01:06:10] performances playing essentially the same character. And you know she had been around for a long time. Like she wasn't young. She was born in 1970. So by this movie she's already 28. But she's just breaking out. And after Bowfinger I would say that's the end of

[01:06:26] Heather Graham as a serious star. Right? Yeah. Like it never even begins. No she had a couple big shots. More opportunities than she probably should have. Right. Because like after this she gets like from hell the guru. She's in anger management. I don't remember that. Yeah.

[01:06:45] Yeah she is. And then like it's like as quickly as it has she's on scrubs like a season. And then Hangover was like a quote unquote come back. But then once she had that platform everyone was like oh right she wasn't very good.

[01:06:56] Of course Emily's reasons why not. Right. Canceled after like 40 minutes of its first episode. But she was one of those weird examples where I feel like when people saw her in Boogie Nights they were like oh shit is she an amazing actress.

[01:07:09] Because that performance is so specific and it was like no she's just a good fit for the role. Right. She fits this one thing well and she can't play anything else. She can play sort of like very naive you know like optimistic.

[01:07:22] But she's also like this cute girl that will Matt LeBonne cannot will wants to make out. That's her other quote unquote role. Right. Right. That's pretty much all she gets. Deliver technical exposition and reject kisses. That's all she's supposed to do. Yeah she rejects at least three kisses.

[01:07:38] Yes. Constantly with a different sort of quip each time and get worse each time. And then when she finally does kiss him. When she's told that he's a war hero she says who was it who said that those who can't think fight

[01:07:49] which means she's insulting him for being a war hero which is sort of weird. Right. Which is weird. And then she says complete the quote. I think it was me. I think that it was me. It's like you're quoting yourself in question form.

[01:08:01] You're saying you're the worst person. So they don't even write good rejections for her and they just play out that beat of like him being like you should make out with her being like no is played out like five times over the course of the movie.

[01:08:13] He's like what if we made out and she's like no and he's like great. And like 20 minutes later he's like how about now it's only the two of us do you want to do it? She's like no thanks. Okay look because I brought it up earlier

[01:08:23] and I want to just speak on it very quickly. He points out that they are the only two single consenting adults. Which is to me. It's a little creepy. But he might have said or the little boy. He might fuck with us. That's crazy. Or the robot.

[01:08:42] Or the robot. Can the robot consent? I don't know he does seem to have a consciousness of sorts. Well also if he wasn't into it everyone in the ship would know about it. No I do not want to fuck you. Hard pass done west.

[01:08:56] Put your penis back in your pants. Throws him like across the giant empty set. So how I wish I'd actually clocked how much time everything we just discussed is. I think 15 minutes. We've been talking for an hour and 15 minutes. But like this happens right?

[01:09:16] They hyperspace now and now they are lost in space. Okay so now all the pieces are on the board now the movie can really kick into gear right? That's what it feels like should happen. I check the running time I'm like there's like

[01:09:27] an hour and a half left. Like I'm like no I don't remember much more of this movie. And then this movie just like goes from like four different extended set pieces that also have a lot of plot in them. But the plot is kind of like.

[01:09:39] That's what I'm saying it is kind of four movies but they're all these like so because like alright so they blast into this new part of space. They've never been there before. We're lost aren't we? This mission sucks. Correct. Boys kissing Billy. I'm just doing Penny's lines.

[01:09:54] Right and what else has happened? Nothing and then they pretty quickly find the like a hole in space. A hole in space immediately. So the movie gives almost no time for like regular adventuring before it's like we're going to get into this time travel stuff.

[01:10:08] It's a time loop. Which is like everyone's like what? We're doing this? I also love how you're like it's like a hole in space just appeared in front of us. This ship is weird it's like abandoned but it's so futuristic.

[01:10:19] It takes them an hour to figure it out. No I really want to finish this all because there's so much. The video is old how did they get here? We've only been missing for a day. They leave the ship. They blow up the ship.

[01:10:30] They arrive on another planet. They basically see themselves and then William Hertz says I think time travel might be involved. Malabonk's like I mean that's a little, I don't know that's a little wacky. That's just out. That's not really theoretically possible. The entire movie Dexter's been like I'm

[01:10:48] like one piece away from time travel. He's got like a mech upset in front of him. Is it a screw? Do I need to lug it up? I'm so close to time travel and now they keep on hitting this thing really hard. What eventually tries to like establish

[01:11:04] itself too late as the emotional backbone of this movie which is the dad never showed up to the science fair because he reprograms the robot. It's pretty radical for a science fiction film like this to have like a father son relationship

[01:11:17] be the central emotional focus of the movie. I think that's really wild. That's never happened in a movie before. And that's why Jonah Nolan came in and said what if father daughter? Shall we go ahead? Do you want to say something? No, I mean we don't care.

[01:11:30] The kid is... He sucks. He kind of sucks and he's just kind of annoying. If I was his dad, I wouldn't show up to anything. That's all I have to say about that. I think that's a bingo right there.

[01:11:42] The movie starts spending a lot of time on it. Yes, and a lot of time on their crap and no we don't. We definitely do not care. And then the whole finale of the movie ends up hinging on it.

[01:11:52] I also I think it ends up being kind of mean because it's like he keeps on talking about like I love Will so much. I can't figure out how to let him know. Doesn't really care about Judy or Penny?

[01:12:02] But that's the thing, he clearly does care about Judy. She went into the family business and they're working on this project together. He cares about her in the same way that like Donald Trump cares about his kids who work for him. Yes exactly.

[01:12:13] Judy is the Ivanka at this movie. I can't respect you until you make money from me. No one acknowledges Penny. Yes she's Tiffany. Will talks to Penny a little bit. Matt LeBlanc has one line where he winks at her. That's it.

[01:12:25] No one talks to Penny through this movie. That's why she's got Blarp. She's got Paul Blarp. Yes, she guides Paul Blarp, Maul Blarp. I don't know. So they go through the hole in space. Right and they go onto this ship. It's so futuristic. The Proteus.

[01:12:37] Oh, I've never seen the ship. It's like a big line or something. Okay, so I need to be trivia fact. Throughout both the writing of the film, did you see this one? I saw this one. Throughout both the writing of the film

[01:12:48] and the entire production of the film, they couldn't decide on a name for the ship. So anytime anyone says the Proteus, it is either said off camera or you see the actor say ship and they dub in Proteus. This movie has a ton of really bad one performance.

[01:13:07] 100% ADR. But I feel like a lot of old men. Jared Harris does not do one of his own. Oh yeah he does. It's true. Yeah, but I feel like Oldman at the beginning weirdly has a lot of ADR. They couldn't decide how much.

[01:13:19] Because by the end of the movie, he's doing a pretty straight impression of Dr. Smith. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And in the beginning it's this weird other thing. A lot of ADR in this movie. Lot of ADR in this movie. Anyway, Proteus, a name they didn't decide on

[01:13:33] until two weeks before the movie came out. They get onto the Proteus. They find the message from Lenny James. He's like, I've been searching for years. And of course the main function of this sequence is to introduce the most important character in the movie who we have

[01:13:49] already referenced, who is Blarp. And I mostly chose this movie so that I could have a chance to say Blarp. Blarp. Blarp. Okay. We should say Attached to the Proteus is an alien ship. We don't know. Full of Spiders. Is that where the Spiders came from?

[01:14:05] It's either where the Spiders came from or where Blarp came from. Sure. Blarps of Spiders, I don't know. Diverts of Blarps. So we meet Blarp and Blarp fucking sucks. That's a big ass hole. He's a space monkey. He's an asshole. He looks like Crash Bandicoot with big eyes.

[01:14:19] Right. He's made out of clouds. It's the least substantive CGI creature in a live-action film I've ever seen. You were saying this is in the CGI period where they had this new technology and we were like, yeah, we can make a whole character with CGI

[01:14:32] but they could not. They shot the movie with a fucking puppet. Oh, they did? And there's one scene when it's like Judy and Penny checking out Blarp on the medical table where you're seeing all over Blarp's shoulder and it's a physical Blarp.

[01:14:46] Like the back of his head, his arms are physical and it looks pretty good. Anytime Blarp is in a scene, he looks like he's made out of like a fucking sticker. Like he looks like a shiny hologram sticker. He looks like a screensaver. Yes, he does. He does.

[01:14:59] He looks like clip art. And he also doesn't make any sense because they just find Blarp on this ship. He's like hiding in the hydroponic space. He changes colors. He's in the hydroponic space. He like changes colors like one time. Right. He's not even good at that.

[01:15:15] Everything else on this ship is dead people. And he burps. He burps. Which is why they call him Blarp. Blarp. He says it like that. But there's also spiders. The CGI spiders who look about as good as Blarp. Can I say something about Blarp?

[01:15:29] He really, let's just do an hour on Blarp. Blarp talk. I have talked about how prolific a doodler I am, how I like the doodle lot in high school, especially when I was a bad student. I would just work on very complicated weeks-long doodles.

[01:15:47] I spent a week in high school making a poster for my dream movie, which was Alien vs. Predator vs. Freddy vs. Jason vs. Terminator vs. Robocop vs. Team Wolf vs. Back to the Future vs. That Thing from Lost in Space. I put Blarp in there. Sure.

[01:16:04] He's in the pantheon. And my poster was the Predator ripping Blarp in half. It was everyone else around him, but Blarp was just being ripped in half by a Predator. Blarp doesn't seem to have a lot of defenses outside of changing colors.

[01:16:16] I hadn't watched Lost in Space in years at that point. I liked it when I was a child, but I still remembered hating Blarp. Blarp is such a shoehorned-in. We need a cute thing that the kids like, right?

[01:16:28] But then we discovered this morning part of the reason the idea of Blarp when we discovered those deleted scenes, which now it suddenly makes a lot more sense.

[01:16:37] We'll get to that, but at least the way it plays out in the movie because they cut all of that is that Blarp is just Penny's friend, basically, because Penny has no friend. Because we've already covered all the characters, ignore her. They do.

[01:16:49] And so she gets Blarp and then that's pretty much it for Blarp. One could say she gets Blarp'd. She gets Blarp'd pretty hard. They Blarp her real bad. But there's like a 12-minute deleted scenes reel, which is all pretty much this one subplot.

[01:17:01] And the one piece, the beginning of this deleted scenes reel is the extended version of this scene where they go, well, where did he come from? There must be more from his species. Sure. Okay. So that's their little tease.

[01:17:12] Okay. So you're saying there's a bunch of deleted scenes. I didn't watch them. Did you guys like watching on YouTube or something? They're on YouTube. Yeah. And the sequence apparently is supposed to be intercut with the whole, you know, darkest timeline sequence. It is the darkest time.

[01:17:25] That's exactly what that whole sequence is. Yes. It was going to be the ladies who as it ended up or just disappear from the movie for that whole part, go out into the woods because Blarp runs out and they run out after Blarp. Yeah.

[01:17:39] And they find a larger creature in a cave who is also friendly like Blarp. Big Blarp. A huge fucking Blarp who turns out to be Future Blarp. They realize it's Future Blarp. I love this. Isn't this in the movie? Humongous. It's practical.

[01:17:56] It's a big rubber Blarp sitting in a cave. It looks horrifying. Yeah. And they're like, is this Blarp's mom? Is it Blarp's dad? And they realize it is Blarp himself from the darkest timeline. It's a fat Blarp who ate too much and John Goodman himself to a cave.

[01:18:13] Oh, I'm seeing. Because it, you know how I- He doesn't look anything like Blarp. Well, he looks like a D&D character. That's because he's a puppet and they ended up doing Blarp with CGI, which was one of the reasons why they had to cut all this. Yeah.

[01:18:26] Do you know how I started searching for this deleted scene, real? How? No, how? I went back and watched the trailer because I was like, I remember being really pumped from the trailer and the trailer has a shot of Judy touching Big Blarp.

[01:18:37] And I was like, what the fuck is that? What the future feature that's not in the movie? Right. I just Googled like Blarp deleted scenes. Are there other deleted scenes? And so that, well, the one more very important one is that-

[01:18:48] Well, they keep on cutting back to the cave. It would have been intercut with the darkest timeline stuff when the boys are being boys, the girls would have been Blarp in. Because as- From now on, I need to refer to on this podcast,

[01:18:59] like female characters having nothing to do with getting Blarp. No, because there is a section of this movie where the three female characters do nothing for 40 minutes and just disappear until the end. They're just sitting on the ship waiting. Right. And in the darkest timeline, they are dead.

[01:19:13] Like we see their graves. Right. But right, what they were doing was bonding with Big Blarp. And at the end of the movie, when the movie ends really abruptly out of nowhere with just like, let's keep traveling. And then it just like cuts to credits.

[01:19:26] Penny was supposed to go- They were supposed to go like, what's that noise? And then Penny is supposed to be like, now don't freak out. Oh boy. And the doors rise up and big fluff comes in and they like take their guns on their right to shoot it.

[01:19:38] And they're like, it's Blarp. It's Blarp from the future. And then they all laugh and go like, oh Blarp. And they're all like, oh Blarp. And it's like, oh now they're all going to be on this ship with Big Blarp.

[01:19:48] That was supposed to be the ending of the movie was Big Blarp. That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life. I like it. Ben's on board. I like it too. That would bump it up to like three stars.

[01:19:59] I mean look, David I'll say, you have to be there. I'm going to watch these scenes. You had to be there. But on the Proteus there are spiders. The main villain of the movie, I guess. They came with all the toys. They can eat metal. Yes.

[01:20:13] That's kind of it. There's a lot of them. They eat their wounded. There's a lot of them. That's a big part. They slash Gary Oldman. Will has totally reprogrammed Robot and now Robot is remote controlled, has no intelligence of its own.

[01:20:25] And Will is using an iPad to control him. Until he needs to go into action mode. And Big Hurts like, not bad. I love you son, but he doesn't say it to him. William Hurts delivers every single line like he's being choked.

[01:20:42] The line I really want to hit, which is right in the movie, is when he tells Matt LeBonk they can't escape the planet. He's like, no, we have to go deeper through the planet's core. And he says it like he's leer.

[01:20:58] I mean, look at each other with like embarrassment. He's a fine actor. He's like a wonderful actor. And we've talked about him before in the show. We will talk about him again. One could say this is a sequel to Kiss of the Spider Woman

[01:21:12] because Gary Oldman gets a kiss of the spider. He does. There is that weird scene. Yeah, go ahead. Where he French kisses a spider. Yeah, that's another deleted scene where William Hurts falls in love with Spidey. Spidey number 12. So then they get off this ship.

[01:21:28] They get off the ship and then Matt LeBonk has his weird shield mask. Here's the shield mask which serves no purpose but it looks cool. It's a big money shot in the trailer. Another merchandise spotlight I remember them making.

[01:21:41] Do you remember when like they used to make like plastic mugs of like the head of a character? Like you drink out of like Batman's head. I remember one that was Matt LeBonk's like head with the mask over it. And it appears in the movie like 10 seconds.

[01:21:57] That's what I wanted to get to is the metal mask. That's what we're talking about now. I love this. And I remember that being on clearance at FAO Schwartz for like five years. Like in 2003, you could still get a two dollar like.

[01:22:06] If someone wants to send that to me, oh, gladly accept it. I'm going to find a picture of the mask. I remember on the VHS we had Joey did not have the deleted scenes, but did have some sort of making a feature that you could watch.

[01:22:17] And it had like, it was like, Blarp was a lot of it. You know, a lot of talk about how they made Blarp. Yeah. Probably some robot talk. Yeah. I mean like honestly, Jar Jar is a disaster,

[01:22:29] but it is crazy how just a year later Jar Jar looks a lot better. A lot better. I mean like Jar Jar is a world ahead of Blarp. Jar Jar at least like exists in the same physical space as the man actor. Yeah.

[01:22:41] But the other thing is they really hit home how cool it was. We're looking at it. It looks like nothing. It does look like. They had so much on how they did the CGI of the metal

[01:22:55] sprouting out of the back of his suit and then he like turns around as it like envelopes his head, which I guess was a complicated CGI shot for 1998. I'll say this. I think he looks kind of cool. Like I think it's a cool idea. We did that.

[01:23:08] We did that gag on the tick a lot because the same thing happens with my helmet. Right. You've got, you've, that's true. You've got a CGI helmet. I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to do those shots. How do you do them?

[01:23:17] It's so tough because it gets into all these specific things of like. Your hair and your face and like. Yeah. And then they have to paint dots on your face and you have to repeat the same action five times.

[01:23:26] And then with me it's like, I have to like swipe it off. So I have to like run my hands over where the helmet would be. But if I actually touch anything then it fucks it up. Right. I hated it. So there you go.

[01:23:36] I think like, no one should ever make a TV. And that's 20 years later. I know it's probably was like they were overselling it. I still think it's a really tough thing to do. So he's got the end of it.

[01:23:46] But then I mean the real problem with this movie is that it wants to be this run and gun action movie. Right? Like it's so desperately wants to be cool. Yes. And every action sequence is just like 50% of the way there. It's like not even close.

[01:24:00] It's like the gunships and this where he has his like blaster and his metal hat and he's shooting spiders. And there's just like no tension to it at all. What? There's yeah, I'd say the two things with this movie, no tension and also

[01:24:11] it's weird that this movie never really establishes like like real stakes because it's like, okay fuck our mission has been sabotaged. We're not making it to where we thought we were going to make it. But they're just sort of like, let's see where are they going? Right?

[01:24:26] It's true. They have no plan. No. They all sing. Just happen. A hole in space appears and. When William Hurt says wait, he says I'll wait later, which again is one of those like a Kiva Goldsman lines where you're like what? That doesn't mean anything. Yeah.

[01:24:43] We should say this movie is directed by Stephen Hopkins who had made the fifth nightmare in Elm Street. The dream child. He had made Predator 2. The worst of the Predator movie. The worst of the yes. He had made Judgement Night with Emilio Estivas and Cuba Gunning Jr. Okay.

[01:24:58] Never heard of that. He had blown away. He had bought Mug 2. Stop. Enough. Drake May. He never made a major, you know, big budget movie like this. And it kind of shows you also feel like he was hired because

[01:25:15] there was like so much studio pressure on this movie and so much like so you're weighing in on every little part of it. Right. You have to hire someone like a Stephen Hopkins. New Line Wands just take family franchise.

[01:25:25] They have their ideas of what they want the film to be. And so as a result, the movie has no care. No identity. Right. Notably on the IMDB page says that Stephen Hopkins and Heather Graham were dating at the during production on his own.

[01:25:38] They apparently dated afterwards, yeah. Which is weird. Stephen Hopkins born in 1958. In? Where was he born? I don't know. Jamaica. Oh wow. So he's 12 years older than her. Okay. All right. Yeah, you're right. Born in Jamaica. I don't know anything about Stephen Hopkins except he may blown away.

[01:25:58] He made the Ghost in the Darkness, which is not a bad movie. Peter Sellers HBO movie. He made that later, but after Lost in Space, the big thing he makes is 24 season one. He directs every episode. Oh really?

[01:26:09] That season of 24 and then he gets booted for a different director because 24 is always directed by the same director. Okay. Every season. So he kind of set the tone for 24. Wow. But this yeah. So they go. I'll wait later. Yeah.

[01:26:24] They go to this fucking planet and they go to another planet. It's the thing though. It's like how is this movie long? Like I feel like it's like the spider scene is all drawn in the final time travel sequence. Let's skip over it. What's the planet in between?

[01:26:36] I don't even remember. No, that's it. That's it. And then they go to the time travel place and it's like that whole thing is like that takes at least half an hour. So it takes longer. It takes almost an hour.

[01:26:47] It takes so long and there's no real action. It's just a lot of explaining and it's like really complicated because I think the first half of the movie movie. I think the first half of the movie up to the destruction of the proteas so they leave the proteas.

[01:26:58] The spiders is chasing him. Matt LeBlanc blows up the proteas. Gary, what's his name? William Hertz mad at him about it, which is weird. Like that thing is full of spiders. And then maybe Rogers comes in and one of only three moments to get to be ready.

[01:27:11] Jesus, you guys, you have an a pissing content. Straight down the desk with testosterone. Jesus, you want to measure your dicks like she makes like eight versions of the same joke. Right. And I think the first hour of the movie is fine. I think it's fine. It moves.

[01:27:27] It has action. It's not like well written or anything in elegant, but like I'm using an there's some designy stuff that's cool. I kind of like the cryo suits. I forgot to mention. I like how the eye thing like goes over them and their weird sleep back. Yeah.

[01:27:40] But then right once they land on this planet, which is some like knockoff fucking fraggle rock nonsense with like weird little like giant fur mushrooms. Oh, and let's mention that on the first when they go to the Proteus and they like take Oldman with him because.

[01:27:57] Yeah, they do. He's like I'm a doctor not a space explorer. Right. Like right. Oh cool. Star Trek, but they like trust him. They're like we don't want it. We don't trust him, but we don't want to leave him alone.

[01:28:07] And there's a thing where Bill Hurt considers killing him, but then is like how are we going to save humanity? That's early. Yeah. If we're not civilized when they get to the future. Kill him to be clear when they get to the future plant.

[01:28:20] They leave him in his room and they lock the gates. They do lock the gates then Marin comes in and interviews him. That does take a lot of time. Right. So it's supposed to be the whole your doctors.

[01:28:30] It's supposed to be just Don West and and and big hurt going west and the big hurt go through the time bubble. Right. This is one way hurts like I've got a working theory. Time travel may be involved in this whole scenario.

[01:28:46] Matt LeBlanc's like that's crazy completely put him in the sanitarium. Shut up. He must never speak again. He has violated the laws of physics and will says like from a corner like time travel is not impossible. It's just improbable. And what is this? More fucking science fair.

[01:29:04] William hurts like I need less of this and more. And he's like David made a talking hand gesture and then he does it. It's less of one more the other boy. Oh boy. So they get to the planet and Jarrett Harris one of my favorite

[01:29:23] characters a real G.G. Will Smith and I mean. So will Smith. Doctor Will Smith time bubble merges the character so William hurt and Dr. Smith. William hurt and Matt LeBlanc go through the time bubble meet Jarrett Harris. Gary Oldman and Will Robinson are chilling out the girls

[01:29:42] and they get to the planet. They get to the planet. And so Jarrett Harris who's a great actor this is right after he's in like I shot Andy Warhol right like he's like a young cool British actor. And I read an interesting L.A.

[01:29:57] Times piece like on him where you had just shot this and he was like, you know, after like I shot Andy Warhol no one really like knew it was me because it was like so much in that world. I only got offered other like a loof artist roles.

[01:30:09] And I played a lot of like scumbags and like, you know, mentally challenged men. And like he was like I want to like expand my range and was like I think this is like going to show me in a whole new

[01:30:21] light and then they dub over all of his dialogue. The only explanation that I need to be trivia has is the producers felt he lacked the quote vocal range for the role. What does that mean? From anywhere there is no information online about why

[01:30:37] he was overdubbed or what the deal or who overdugged him. But it's very clear that it's not his and they overdug it if you know Jared Harris when you're watching at the time, you're probably like I was a kid. I didn't know.

[01:30:47] And it's like very jarring and also the voice is like real Saturday morning cartoon. Like the voice lacks any salty and it's like dad, don't you remember me? It's will your son. Yes. And you've done your Jared Harris impression before on the show.

[01:31:04] Even when he's speaking in American accent, he's kind of like I have done one. And now I can't remember what I was for certain women. Well, and then it turns out that he is under the control of Spider Smith, who is like the most truly bizarre

[01:31:21] choice we could ever have made. No, like yes, it is placed beforehand. He has bitten by a or he's not even bitten or whatever he's like, God, damn spider bite. In slow motion. So you don't forget it. And then three other moments in the movie.

[01:31:35] He's like scratching and he keeps getting pusier and bigger. It's like leaking blue pus. I don't think anyone was expecting what that leads to. It's like, we'll probably die. Spoiler box because no one could have called this one. It really feels like an other goldsmith just did not

[01:31:50] have an ending. Right? Like really it was just also we pay for old men. Let's let old men be the big bad. You know, let's make one of the reasons that it's scary still kind of freaky to me.

[01:32:01] I think one of the reasons is that they have to try to make it kind of look like Gary Oldman. I mean, I guess he do. I guess he did it. We don't really know. Smith. And that's part of what makes it look creepy is that he's

[01:32:12] supposed to be a scary monster, but he also kind of looks like Gary Oldman's face and it's weird. It is calf gas. I mean, you know, Dr. Zachary Smith awoke to find himself transformed. The design is kind of like very species, right?

[01:32:26] It's that weird, like weird techno insect kind of thing. Which this whole movie has that vague like 90s techno vibe. Right? But I also do you know this is a movie where Gary Oldman is credited twice, not like as Dr. Smith's slash Spider Smith.

[01:32:42] No, he has two credits. Right. Which is weird. Is weird. Is weird. But the other thing is I find Spider Smith slash Future Smith very scary for the first chunk when he's wearing that big robe. Right. Because it's nearly like a puppet where they just have a

[01:33:02] green screen like mannequin head. And it has this kind of herky jerky movement. He moves like the Skexus from The Dark Crystal. Right, right, right. Weird hunched over herky jerky mound of robes. He's got claws and because the whole Jupiter 2 is

[01:33:16] metal, every step is like thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk. Gary Oldman's doing some good voice acting and it's kind of unnerving and his face isn't shadows and you're like how much does that look like Gary Oldman? And then when he like throws it off, he's just full bug.

[01:33:30] And also yeah, he's full bug and he like grows 10 feet. Yeah, it's weird. It's an odd choice. He's got a lot of neck. And so he's like, yeah, it's weird because it's so long. But it's also mostly just him arriving at Jared Harris

[01:33:45] being like dad, don't you understand I built the time machine. He wants to go back because he wants to have a normal life but it turns out that Spider Smith was just working him so that he could go back because he just only cares about himself.

[01:33:58] I guess so. But within it, there is a one sort of nice moment where you see through the portal he's created, you see him as a kid and see them on like day when they're going off in the mission and he has

[01:34:09] a little monologue about like, oh, I remember how I felt that day like so like full of hope and it's sort of like a nice moment and you're like, okay, I get what we're going for here in terms of the arc. Before he realized that this mission.

[01:34:20] But then yeah, most of it is just nonsense. Yeah, it's mostly nonsense. Also William Hurt is like I keep calling him that because I can't remember his name John Robinson is like, well, I don't know if you should do that

[01:34:34] because you know what if you hurt Earth with your time warp technology which is what he should be saying is how about someone goes through that and says someone sabotage the ship. Right. Let's deal with that. Who goes through anyone but Smith. Right, right.

[01:34:50] But Spider Smith knocks out present day Smith and he falls down a pit of garbage. Yeah, he falls into a pit of garbage and Joanna was like did he just kill himself? And I was like no because then wouldn't he like blink out of existence? Right, yeah.

[01:35:01] Yeah, so he's not dead but also at this point Smith has been piling around with little and they've built the robot now to make it look like the old robot. So there's a lot of that business. Right. And now the robot has its own mind. He loves baseball.

[01:35:15] He's not a remote control. Right because he put Will's will put his own brain into the robot which is he's doing a lot of advantage. When he says like put his own brain into it there's a shot where you see him with an

[01:35:24] iPad, there's a baseball and he like drags and drops it into the robot. Street right. Whoa. Yeah, the robot says strike your out. For the love of the game. PG-13. Eight man out. And then there's like a quasi fight that's not really a fight because William Hurt

[01:35:46] stabs Gary Oldman Spider-Man with his son's science trophy. Which is I think this like a Kiva Goldsman save the cat fucking like I did it. I completed the story circle. He thinks that's check off is gone because at the beginning of the movie they're

[01:36:02] packing and it's like why would I even bring this? Exactly. And he stabs him and then he's like don't you remember these monsters eat their wounded and the spiders, the little baby spiders. We don't remember by the way. The spiders like crawl on Smith but you

[01:36:16] never quite buy it as like incapacitating. And then there's just a lot of shoe leather about like between the Robinsons and then. Will's got knocked down. But he knocks him into the time machine but into like the bad part that hurts you which is risky.

[01:36:33] He almost knocks him through it. Yes, yes. And then he's dangling by his dog tags. Yeah, that's right. And Big Hurts saves him. Right. And he's like why did you do that dad? The core is unstable and he's like. The planet's collapsing or whatever. I don't know.

[01:36:50] I told you someday. That's the other fucking real Goldsman thing was like at the beginning of the movie Big Hurts says like some day I'll prove to you how much I love you. It's like why not just say I love you and hug your son now.

[01:37:03] Why you gotta make it like a fucking doosex machina. But so now he like saves his son and he's like he loves him and he jumps in. Not yet. Because they have to watch. It's so many steps to it. They first try to watch them escape.

[01:37:20] They watch them escape and they fail. I'm sorry and they blow up. This is pretty dark. One of many weirdly dark things in this movie. And then he goes back. He goes back through the machine. Maybe Rogers gets half a moment when they realize that

[01:37:36] John Robinson isn't coming back. She gets like a goodbye my love moment. She sort of becomes the captain. She's like well I'm gonna save as many people as I can. Boom dead in five minutes. Right. And then he goes back but then it's very

[01:37:50] unclear what, well now you're there but isn't the same thing just going to happen until he says Roooo. Through the planet. Jews it's gravity. Not really. And then the planet collapses into a black hole which really burst my bubble. I hate that. Planets don't turn into black holes.

[01:38:12] Stars turn into black holes. And then the movie just ends. So then they have to use Piper Drive again and Will says cool. That's the last time in the film, right? Cool. This mission sucks. Jeez, okay. I have to leave. I have a doctorate appointment.

[01:38:32] It's the last half of the movie. It's the blarp of movies. It starts out a little charming. But I have to you know to come back to why I chose this movie. Despite everything that we just said. I watched this movie often even before it was on Netflix

[01:38:44] but even more so now or watch bits of it. I find it to be a very calming bad movie to watch. You don't have to defend yourself. I've literally picked some of the dumbest films ever. No, he's not. I'm not defending myself.

[01:38:58] There are certain I feel like we all have them. It's very much a time capsule. This is the start of studios thinking in terms of franchises. You know about like the power of IP and how to like stretch things out.

[01:39:08] Like there's a whole thing on the MDB of how they had. Yes, but part of its purity is the fact that none of that happened. Right. And so it just sits on its own. It's before they figured out how to do it well.

[01:39:18] So that part of it failed. It was never going to be a franchise. It was never going to be a big hit. Well at least it wasn't. But now it just sits on its own as this weird ass movie coming. I agree with that.

[01:39:32] I'm trying to find this now. There was a list of the things they were going to do. According to the screenwriter, Keeva Goldsman, if the movie did receive a sequel, it would have been about the Robinson family making it to Alpha Prime. However, they discovered that Alpha Prime

[01:39:44] has already populated with humans because they previously went through a wormhole in the first movie that sends them into the future. Great. So it's the same fucking thing again? So terrible! There had been a subplot with Judy Robinson creating a cure

[01:39:56] to prevent the spider infection from turning into Spider Smith and Penny ending up receiving the same color changing abilities as Blarp. That sounds great! I'm back on board. Goldsman make this... Now it's unfair that Goldsman is now running Star Trek Discovery. Like, it's good so far.

[01:40:16] The show is good. I credit to Goldsman but it is crazy. The IMDb trivia fact doesn't say Future World's dialogue is entirely dubbed and it didn't have the vocal range. The term is the vocal scale. What the fuck does that mean? Okay.

[01:40:34] But yes, Goldsman, he wrote many a movie like this one which I now think is terrible that when I was a certain age just blew my mind. He wrote A Beautiful Mind. He wrote I-Robot. That blew my mind at a certain point. Batman Forever obviously.

[01:40:48] And Batman and Robin. Batman and Robin in a different way. He's like, God, he's fascinating. He is. He's a terrible writer in many ways but he's been such a big part of my life. If you're a kid of the late 90s, I think that's true. A Kiva Goldsman...

[01:41:04] I mean look, only true 90s kids will understand this episode. This movie grows $69 million domestic. It grows to $136 worldwide on an $80 million budget which is not great. But it wasn't like a catastrophic failure. It just didn't do very well. On the subject of catastrophic failures

[01:41:20] A Kiva Goldsman either produced, wrote or did both on The Dark Tower, King Arthur Legend of the Sword, Transformers... He's in charge of all these writers' rooms, right? And Rings! He was in charge of the Transformers writers' room. I think he was in the Dark Universe writers' room.

[01:41:38] Sure, put him in there. They just shelved Bride of Frankenstein by the way. So we have no idea if they... Like as of today? That's the one I wanted to see just because I think it's been dicking around for like 50 years making everything but Bride of Frankenstein.

[01:41:52] I just hope there's never another one. And so that movie is the only movie with the Dark Universe logo in front of it. Because that would almost make it like Lost in Space, right? Yeah, it's like what was... There were so many plans. You watch fucking...

[01:42:06] What should we call it? Beauty and the Beast. And it's like, Bill kind of just wants to make Bride of Frankenstein. Let him make Bride of Frankenstein. Beauty and the Beast barely functions as a beauty and the beast movie

[01:42:14] because he's so busy trying to make Bride of Frankenstein. That's just great. Number one of the box office. Is Lost in Space. April 3rd, 1998. And let's historic about it. A fine opening weekend but it's historic because it dethrones Titanic's 15 straight week run at number one. Correct.

[01:42:34] The first movie to defeat the Titanic which has only dropped 24% insane. In its 16th week it has made $530 million and $11 million on it. $11 million on it. 16th weekend. It's got 70 million more to make. Completely bonkers. Good movie. Number three is a Bruce Willis film.

[01:42:54] It's a new entry this week. Mercury Rising? You got it. I want to see that while my parents would not let me. This autistic kid has like a secret in his head. Puzzle books. And we will portray this sensitively. Hasn't he like cracked the NSA

[01:43:10] security system through puzzle books or something? Why the fuck is it called Mercury Rising? That sounds like it's about like a temperature problem. I want to see that movie so badly because it was about a weird boy. Number fourth, the box office.

[01:43:22] In another movie I saw on this trip to America that we took where I saw Lost in Space twice and maybe other things. It was a reissue of hit of the 70s and I went to see it with my grandmother in Utica. Greece.

[01:43:38] We had a great time. I remember this time period vividly. Number five is a Travolta movie. That's kind of a box office. Flop. Weirdly, even though it's a good movie. Comedy drama. Dramathing. Dramathing I guess. Michael D'Arto. Gets two Oscar nominations. Primary colors. Primary colors.

[01:44:02] How does he do it? There you go. You nailed the box office game. You just feeling bad if you fucked up. You just feeling bad if you fucked up near dark box office game so bad? Wasn't it? I can't even remember. It was disastrous.

[01:44:16] This was when I started really following the box office closely. These are like historic weekends for me. Man in the Iron Mask. The two Leo movies. That had come closest to the Throne and Titanic. Man in the Iron Mask did like 500,000 less than Titanic that weekend

[01:44:34] and people thought Leo is finally going to take down Leo because the actuals came in it was like a little lower. Barney's Great Adventure is a new entry number 11. As good as it gets, which Joey and I just rewatched. Number 8.

[01:44:48] Griffin's Making a Face. It is an amazing movie. Really quite something that movie. And a crazy successful movie. 136 million in 15 weeks. Really great. Good Will Hunting is also hanging out with a similar total. This is when Oscar movies would just play

[01:45:02] and play and play and make so much fucking money. And then there was also in there. Which made 61 million dollars. The lowest grossing of the best picture on me is that. But did pretty well. It's going to make 64. That's a great movie. Joey.

[01:45:18] You were paying attention but that's a great movie. LA Confidential. We both love that movie. I got to leave. I got to go to the doctor. Yeah. You got a pee. We've been talking. Lost in space. So much for having me.

[01:45:34] I'm so glad we decided on this movie. I think this was just so the right call. I hope everyone goes back. Everyone who is like what the hell kind of choice is this now goes back to Netflix and rewatches it and rediscover the wonder.

[01:45:46] At least watch the first hour. Yeah. But then go straight to the end credits. And then go to the end credits. And listen to that over and over again. And try to find it. And the score for this movie online to try to listen to them.

[01:46:04] They're quite hard to find. Well, and apparently John Williams I think did the score for the TV show. But they didn't have the rights to any of the John Williams stuff. So that's a zero reference. Other than the theme song at the end.

[01:46:16] Anyway, thank you so much for being on the show. People should follow you on Twitter. Yes. Better Twitter than mine. Hot Broadway takes. Mostly theater. Be warned Joey C. Simms. Joey C. Simms. Seriously. Amen. We got there late. I got there way later, I think. Yep.

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