Miami Vice

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to express All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check I'm out of it, I'm sorry Cuba Hi everybody My passport's no good in Avena

[00:00:44] The Harbour Master is my cousin It's okay, the Harbour Master is my cousin I wish I could... there's never been an accent like it before since No A Chinese actress doing a Cuban accent not knowing any of the words she's speaking and doing everything entirely phonetically

[00:01:00] Yeah, this is one of those totally phonetic performances It's a totally phonetic performance I cannot fathom doing that You're an actor, what do you even do? I don't know

[00:01:12] If everything you're thinking about and how do you do that and then give what is objectively and was recently declared by the Library of Congress as the greatest film performance in history I mean I do think when you have actors who are giving phonetic performances like this

[00:01:27] The thing that really stands out is the presence She's got it She's got it, she's got 400 keys of presence And I will say I do always sense and I think this movie is the closest I've seen to someone completely overcoming it

[00:01:43] But we talked about this with... well we'll talk about it next week Koutia in public enemies Where you feel the difference between her in public enemies and her in inception Which is an inception she's less stressed out Sure, because she's had a few more reps doing English language

[00:02:00] She knows what she's saying My grandfather, I don't brand my grandfather much on this podcast But he was a French actor who died long before I was born He was like a French character actor And he did a handful of American...

[00:02:12] You might have talked about him once, I can't remember, go on I'm gonna talk about him once or twice, I don't talk about him a lot because I didn't know him Fair enough A fan of his work seemed like a good guy

[00:02:22] But he did a bunch of Hollywood films in the 1960s And my mom told me that he never spoke any English That it was always phonetic The only other English language performances I know that she gave I think Handel Rising I would assume she speaks English

[00:02:39] Does she play his mom in that? She plays his mentor It would make no sense for her to play his mom We all know that people eat But what if people eat people? A lot Chica That's what Hannibal says to her

[00:02:56] I mean, I curse that the Golden Flower is entirely in Mandarin That was her limited run of doing English language films Pretty much You know what? I didn't even know this, she's in Mulan Next year She's probably gonna rock the fucking house

[00:03:16] Mulan's got a really good cast, you know that Jet Lee is playing the emperor? Yeah, and Donnie Yen's in it, and Jason Scott Lee is in it We stan Steven Summers is the Jungle Book A movie you keep on bringing up

[00:03:30] It's just like crazy to me that in 20 years, 25 years we went from like Steven Summers is like, I'll remake the Jungle Book Get me a tiger And like 25 years later, it's like we're doing the Lion King Photo-realistic animals, it's like why didn't you just get a lion?

[00:03:44] So, you know Anyway, I just wanted to point out Tommy Lee Jones is supposedly giving Gong Lee special house rocking tutorials For her role in Mulan Oh, there you do it Does she play Mulan's mother? Who does she play?

[00:03:59] Let's see, she is playing a powerful and malevolent witch A new character who's not in the film The animated film You know what? She's probably gonna fucking rock the house I was gonna say That sounds pretty house rocking Analysts, Studio is confident of major house rocking

[00:04:15] We've talked about this, I'm pretty excited for that Mulan movie You do A Nikki Caro director A, you love McFarland USA, you're the number one McFarland USA stan Good movie Yeah, you tried to get your name changed to Griffin McFarland USA

[00:04:28] And the people, America was like, you can't put a comma in your name America loves the cars I also, you know what I like about McFarland USA? McFarland USA looks on its face like a white savior movie

[00:04:39] And the first scene where Kevin Costner comes in and he's like I'm here to give your kids a chance Here to save ya with my whiteness Right, they're like, fuck you white guy But then does he save them though? Not really, I mean that's like

[00:04:52] I haven't seen it That's the point is like the whole movie is them being like We're not gonna let you think that you're saving us You know who else is in there You're coaching us Mulan Zima, love him Who's Zima? You know he's the general in Arrival

[00:05:07] He's in the farewell which you haven't seen yet But you will probably have seen right around now And he's phenomenal I know what you're talking about Yeah They also, it's less, they're doing more a new adaptation Of the folktale than Yeah, and right, yeah, right

[00:05:24] Which makes me think it is not going to fall into the Disney Let's remake shot for shot trap No Now of course this is the section of our podcast where we talk about the linking Because we do this every episode now And this one's coming out soon

[00:05:37] It is In our reddit because anytime there's any clip with more than Half a frame Of mouth moving Mouth movement, everyone goes to the reddit and talks about How creepy it does or doesn't look, right? And someone said I don't understand

[00:05:51] Why they didn't just hire Julie Taymor to do this Well, she's had some trouble recently interacting with You know, producers Right That's the reason I had thought that it was Favreau post jungle book being like I would like to do the Lion King Right

[00:06:12] In fact, I now know from very good authorities Oh That Mufasa Mufasa himself up in the clouds We say in a legend, never forget That Disney was like Developing an idea of an updated Lion King Without Favreau in mind

[00:06:32] Just generally like we should do this now that the Knowledge exists Right And Julie Taymor fought to get a meeting with them Sure That they reluctantly in the most passive aggressive way Let her come in and pitch a little thing

[00:06:47] I guess thank you for making the most successful Broadway show of all time So we should extend the courtesy Am I wrong in thinking I read somewhere that it is the most successful piece of media in history That thing prints money

[00:06:58] I think it is the most successful piece of media Is her production of the Lion King Let's go see the Lion King on Broadway 5,000 stretchable That should be it Yeah The game goes and sees the Lion King on Broadway and just reviews it Yeah

[00:07:13] But they're like, it was great Yeah The puppets I saw I saw it during previews Sure Way back when When you were like a little kid Like 22 years or whatever I saw it like when it opened in London So that I probably was like 10 years old

[00:07:28] That's so weird though that you would go see a Broadway show on vacation You could just see it at home in New York City where you grew up The good thing is I lived in England at the time What

[00:07:38] It was one of the 13 years that I lived there Interesting Sounds pretty unlucky You know what else I saw What? In England My advice? That's right Ola Chica I got my go fast boat in the winding I just think it's fascinating that Julie Timber was like

[00:07:55] Hey, maybe you should let me Hit you Yeah, yeah, yeah I got my idea Fine, are you free on Sunday at 4 a.m.? And she was like, I am And they were like, Goddamn it We didn't think she'd take it

[00:08:07] Can you Skype in at 7 a.m. Shanghai time? They tried to give her like a weird math problem Right But here's my source for this I heard Julie Timber saying this at a fucking party Oh At like a New York film festival thing Uh-huh

[00:08:22] And they had just announced it And she was ranting about it Julie Timber ranting? Yep But look, I like She made this argument Which I think she has with time proven to be More and more correct about this And I think once the movie comes out

[00:08:37] Will be proven to be 100% correct about this She was like, it's not gonna work They think they can apply the same technology They used on the Jungle Book But the difference is If you don't have one human character as an anchor It'll be bizarre

[00:08:53] And you're removing the stylization And you have multiple characters of the same species It's not gonna work And she was like, I was going to do more of a hybrid thing Sort of like the way we use Something more stylized That was her whole take

[00:09:08] And she was like, I was still gonna do CGI I was still gonna do motion capture I had the whole picture They didn't do motion capture for this though Exactly Yeah, but gone She was like, I'm gonna do motion capture I'm gonna have it be humans

[00:09:19] I'm gonna think about it the same way I thought about humans Like with the masks and half puppets And all that sort of stuff It wasn't gonna look like the Broadway show Right And at least creatively That probably would have been the right Avenue for them to take

[00:09:34] But now it will be Like a source of nightmares for children For years to come I will say the latest clip they posted It looked okay It looked okay It looked okay I was less alarmed by it Kind of looked like more what I imagined

[00:09:51] I guess from that first clip Looks okay When this episode comes out Still not pumped Yes When this episode comes out It'll be like a week away from release I believe that's right I believe that's right Kids are not gonna want animals to talk after this movie

[00:10:04] I mean, that's the question That was the thing I was always like, oh, I want animals to talk Imagine if my dog could talk Right, animals and talking? Hello I understand the calculus Anything and talking I understand the calculus in the sense that Kids love talking animals

[00:10:18] That are stylized in cartoon Well, please tell the listeners what I'm wearing right now Forky baseball cap Forky baseball cap I got it five below The tag said Forky Dad Hat Nice Cause Forky's my daddy Forky's your daddy So am I your other daddy?

[00:10:34] Yeah, you're gonna adopt me Loving home Nice family This is the future that liberals want A man and his spork And his adult son Go on I understand the calculus in the sense that Kids love Kids like talking animals They love cartoonish talking animals

[00:10:56] They also love watching real animals Kids love watching nature documentaries Until it gets to the scary part You're always surprised that kids like watching footage Of lions and shit That seems too scary and kids are fascinated by it Yeah, it's cool

[00:11:12] But I think they don't want to see both at the same time We'll see I think Disney is pretty convinced that you're wrong Look, I contend still Everyone's gonna see this fucking movie And many people are gonna see it multiple times Lots of people are gonna see it

[00:11:27] Yeah, it's gonna do great It's gonna do great Your contention was that it was gonna be the best ever Which was insane But it's gonna do amazing It's gonna do Bafo B.O What if I am right though? Then it's incredible

[00:11:40] Because I've backed off of my own bed even being like I'm probably wrong But if you're right, it's like I mean, I can't think of the sports analogy But it's unheard of A photo finish? No, that's not right Because in the summer where everything is flopping

[00:11:55] Aladdin is one of the only movies overperforming Aladdin's over the fucking overperforming like crazy Right And Lincoln's gonna double that But even doubling it, that's like I'm aware Nearer than what Enga made I'm aware He's not a talking warhog That is true He's chunky He's kind of dirty

[00:12:17] I guess he's chunky, certainly dirty I mean, he's fake dirty It's all fake It's such an unappealing color Yeah Everyone is But like the warhog I'm like, oh right, they're like grayish brown Warhogs are crazy animals Yeah Yeah, but yeah, right

[00:12:33] They are not like a beautiful sort of like Burgundy Exactly A Claret Yeah Yeah, with a finely clothed mohawk Pumb is cool Yeah, Pumb is a good guy But you know what, like that's the first fart joke in Disney, right? Is it? Isn't it? It probably is, right?

[00:12:53] It's not in the other It's not in like Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid of this Like that's probably I think you're probably right That's probably There wasn't a mouse fart at one point In The Great Mouse Detective? I don't know

[00:13:04] They always have mice in their movies They always have mice in their movies In Cinderella? Yeah, in rescuers Flashillent Right, like I could, I bet you that's the first time Disney was like fine Do a whole fart joke sequence Yeah And like it's just like a moment

[00:13:18] It's just a change Times is changing moment Right, it's a moment like That's one of those things where like no one farted In a movie before Blazing Saddles Right, Blazing Saddles like broke the glass ceiling on that Right Now think about how many comedies

[00:13:32] In the last 30 years don't have a single fart joke in them Right? So like it's the last days of disco Right And like here, just this metric What is the last big studio comedy to have zero fart jokes? I cannot think of one

[00:13:50] Because even if I try to think of an answer I'm like there's probably one I'm forgetting I mean there's I'm sure there's studio comedies without fart jokes now When? Where? No, where? You saw Stuber yesterday? Stuber having any fart jokes? I don't think so

[00:14:06] Stuber does not, it has a dick joke Oh cool It is kind of one of those things where you're like we are We're here now How's the dick joke? Actually maybe the funniest single line in the film Cool But you know what I mean? Where they're like we

[00:14:21] Because Stuber is just like a fucking down the middle Like we're making a gross 80s buddy cop movie We're making 48 You know what I mean? It's 90 minutes long Like it's one of those movies where you're like Your body is almost conditioned where you're like okay

[00:14:34] So like four more action sequences right And then you're like oh wait no We're actually almost done That's actually it It's not good to be clear It's like watchable Like it's the kind of thing I mean my review I was like this thing would have dominated a blockbuster

[00:14:46] And it's the kind of movie where you're like It's hot outside and you're like at least the movie theater is cold Sure You know and like and it's not going to hurt my feelings Like it's like them being funny Well look here's a transition to our subject today

[00:14:59] But I was just going to say Make your point But there are no boobs There's no tits Is it R? It's a hard R Very violent Interesting but there's no gratuitous nudity But there's no tits There's just a penis You see you see one Yes Cool

[00:15:13] And it's one of those things where I'm like right That's the flip in 2019 Yes You'll put a dick in it Like a comical dick of you know Like where you're like oh my god it's crazy Dick's funny It's very large Sounds pretty fine to me

[00:15:28] But like not like some scene where it's like The girls have a conversation at the gym I don't know like whatever those 80s movies Right That there was always someone crashing through a window Just as someone was removing only their bra Exactly

[00:15:43] Someone decides to take a skinny dip Right Hey do you want a skinny dip with me? Well that's the moment where as a Whatever I was 12 year old watching what How American Summer I was like oh this is the best movie I've ever seen

[00:15:58] When I was like watching my rented VHS And they were like watching the girls go skinny dipping And I'm like okay here we go Move closer to your six inch television Yeah right It's like that in the business I'm pulling my beanbag chair up closer to the screen

[00:16:13] Scooting Yeah right I'm like so amped and then they go to Like the most romantic sex scene I've ever seen And I was like okay I mean I'm angry Cause now I don't know what to do with this thing But on the other hand Go on

[00:16:27] Game recognized game good work Okay this was the transition I was going to make Out of gross talk Yeah let's get out There are two quotes that have been Really sort of jangling around my brain recently Jangle jangle Jangle jangle

[00:16:42] As you know I've been in a free fall About the state of the film industry Yeah you have you need to Particularly the death of movies The novel back Particularly the death of studio comedy Uh huh The field I thought I was going to work in Right

[00:16:59] There was the big New York Times Kyle Buchanan The future movies piece Yes Right that everyone's talking about And the line that jumps out to me That I keep on keeps haunting me I think it was Tom Rothman said it Where he said

[00:17:13] I believe I put it in my article This generation does not go to the movies They go to A movie And something like Stuber would succeed When you were like it's July And you call your boys Let's just fucking go And you're like what's playing Right

[00:17:26] The plan is let's go see a movie And then you figure out what is Least objectionable to everyone in the group That's what Stuber's going for Right and uh I was talking with a friend of the podcast Alex R. Parran we were talking about like Yeah you like

[00:17:39] You know it's Friday You don't have school the next day Let's just go to the theater And then pick the consensus movie Yeah let's just watch people Right Uh that is gone I do think that for a generation It's like

[00:17:50] I will go to the theater when there is a thing That compels me to go to the theater I don't go to the theater because like Seeing a movie would be fun Right Um But also we at that time You would have like

[00:18:01] Where could you see a movie Right You didn't have media Yes of course yes You couldn't just go home and watch YouTube Totally Which now we can do Right Like if we were going to go home and watch You two when we were teenagers

[00:18:11] It's like let's go home and watch real player Mm-hmm You know it's like For like five minutes Oh so good Let it load press play press pause Let it load okay Yeah Let it buffer Real player suck I mean You guys still do it Buying DVDs like

[00:18:25] That was the only way I would see a movie Right Of course yeah Well this is the second thing Okay So there's an incredible slate article Which we're going to be quoting a lot Because it's one of the craziest things I've ever read

[00:18:35] About the making of today's film Miami Vice Cause of course there's a podcast called Blank Check with Griffin David I'm Griffin David Real tight on the queue there This is a podcast about filmographies Directors show massive success early on in their career Give a series of blank checks

[00:18:50] Make whatever crazy passion products they want Sometimes those checks clear And sometimes they're a fiend for mojitos Baby Ola chica It's a main series on the films of Michael Mann Mm-hmm It's called cast the pot he can say Hey Michael Mann's Blanking Sure

[00:19:04] Today we're talking about David's favorite movie Of all time Miami Vice Yep In this long piece Where they're talking about how Disasterous the production of Miami Vice This film had a somewhat torture production And also was the come to Jesus moment

[00:19:15] I think for Colin Farrell on a personal level Right In terms of like him rebuilding his life Going to rehab Getting off the sauce Like all that Colin Farrell says that he remembers Zero percent of making this movie And they finish filming And he immediately walks into rehab

[00:19:28] Yep It plays Hell yeah Worse Cause he looks Good Fucking good I wish I could be That drunk and look that good That drunk Like Styled that particularly That unwashed That unwashed I mean in this movie where like Fully 80% of people who watch it

[00:19:50] Are like he looks like fucking garbage Yeah But like what they are is wrong He's a handsome boy He is And I would like to take him for Mahito You want to take him for a Mahito Yes I just always I envy the guys like Colin Farrell

[00:20:09] Or like Mr. R. Pats Oh Has our Bulbasaur himself Who are able to Rock Never washing their hair Right It just always looks so cool to me When I try to do it I feel disgusting No kidding If I don't take a shower every two hours

[00:20:27] I feel disgusting Right Yes But like this is a movie where I would not be surprised if Colin Farrell says That he never shampooed once during production He was probably eating the shampoo Anything that will get him You know Keep him level Yeah

[00:20:44] I imagine Colin Farrell during the Filming of Miami Vice like Walking Phoenix and the master Like tapping like a Gas tanks Making rocket juice He would drive the Ferrari And then when they were done He would like get his His siphoning pipe Alcoholism is no laughing matter

[00:21:05] It isn't And I'm so happy that he figured his shit out That's the point Right Because we're on the other side of it Still probably tasteless But this is this piece About this disastrous production Where Colin Farrell is on the verge Of collapse as a human being

[00:21:22] And saves himself from the brink And when Jamie Foxx Wins the Oscar after signing onto This movie And starts going insane with how much He can flex his movie star muscle And Michael Mann is at perhaps The peak of his like Insane perfectionism Combined with his indecisiveness

[00:21:40] And his obsession with digital photography Which is like in like Fully nascent form Right All of this The technology is not his obsession The movie cost $150 million Oh yeah I think it was Greenlit somewhere around 100 Universal claims it only went up to 135 Liars It definitely went up to 150

[00:21:57] Yes And It made about that Worldwide Yes I think it made 163 worldwide Right And the head of universal Who had only Taken the position After Miami Vice had finished filming This slate article Cause now every weekend when a movie underperforms There's some like What happened

[00:22:20] There's a Hollywood reporter David Harbour never got along with Neil Marshall or whatever Sure And they never get any of the big people To comment on it Right Right This article is about how Miami Vice Was a disaster And it's like Michael Mann is on the record

[00:22:34] Everyone's on the record Is Foxx on the record? Foxx is the only one not on the record Cause I was about to say cause he's the Everyone talks about him kind of He's sort of the villain of Miami Vice But like the locations manager

[00:22:45] Apart from Jose Guerra of course The locations manager I'm more of a disco guy They call me crazy pig How many is John Ortiz in? Three or four Man movies? Cause he's in black hat right? He's in Public enemies Is he in collateral? He's in another one

[00:23:03] I'm gonna look it up You keep talking about this article I'm going tango on tango But I just have to say this before I forget Because we forgot this In our collateral episode somehow 2004 There are two films Where an emotional centerpiece Is the protagonist going to meet

[00:23:22] Barry Shabaka Henley at a jazz club Cause the other one said terminal And we've covered the other one on this show We have covered the other one on this show There are two I was like why do I feel like We've talked about this scene before

[00:23:35] When we were talking about Barry Shabaka Henley scene And it's because Tom Hanks goes to him And he's like tell me who my father was I guess it's just the three It's three in a row Miami Vice, Public Enemies, Black Hat He's in all three As different characters

[00:23:47] Not as the same character No but I mean like different Very different types of characters Like in one he's an insane Colombian drug lord In one he's like Italian mobster who's like What's your problem? And in one he's like A herried middle manager At the FBI

[00:24:05] Who's like God will you stop hacking? But he's also like a white collar mobster In black and not black In public enemies He's a great actor And then also he's like a respected You know that's his main job Is like theater guy The labyrinth theater company

[00:24:20] Yeah the labyrinth theater guy Who's in like Jacko's boning Is like you know a divorcee Right he was five size BFF He's the villain in fast But he's also the villain in fast four And then pops up again in six Maybe yeah A poly visits him in jail

[00:24:36] A poly walker He's just a great career He's a great career Wait let me go back to the thing You call him crazy pic You call him crazy pic? No I mean Yeah I know I'm inceptioning back through the levels To remember what we originally talking about

[00:24:50] In this slate article The then head of universal films Who goes on the record And talks a lot about this movie And does not Denied that production was difficult I'm gonna get this article I'm gonna go Mark Schmuger This is where I kept the tab

[00:25:06] What a Hollywood name Yeah Mark Schmuger What about Mark Schmuger He in this thing Sorry I'm trying to find the exact quote I can find the quote for you He in this thing says here Yes okay the title is How Jamie Foxx Forced a different ending

[00:25:23] On my advice fleeing the scene Is the title of the article But he says here They're talking about how much money It cost And that this guy only came on late And that he's defending All of Michael Mann's decisions In the name of artistry

[00:25:38] Which no studio head would do today No not really And this is the key difference And this is what has been ringing in my head About what kind of kills movies okay Mann's track record in box office Isn't that strong But studio chairman Schmuger says

[00:25:55] It's not all about lines at movie houses And then he says The key on looking at the profitability Of Michael's movies Is that they've got a very long tail Well after theatrical run Schmuger maintains Everybody's seen heat Everybody's seen last the Mohicans

[00:26:10] The films do fantastically well in video On all television outlets overseas Which used to be so much of how Hollywood made its money Television sales So if you had a movie that really played International sales Right but international sales on TV as well

[00:26:27] If you had a movie that really played Had a high rewatched belly something like heat Which goes from being a box office disappointment To this movie that must have been Immensely profitable over the deck Sure Right And then in the 2000s You have this DVD boom

[00:26:43] Where suddenly DVDs are really cheap Take up less space And people have massive collections of things Okay And if a movie is good It makes back its money eventually Sure Even if it underperforms theatrically You have so many different avenues I'm sorry I have two devices on

[00:27:00] But so these guys like Michael Mann Or like David Fincher You'd be like God it's so much more expensive than this movie should be But I'm betting on quality Yeah and I owe long to Yes It's the kind of movie people will keep on watching

[00:27:14] Every time it comes on TNT Well when it goes to streaming And when home video dies And TV plays don't matter as much It really just becomes about How much can you make in theatre Sure Because there's a lot less potential upside In the ancillary post theatrical window

[00:27:34] Sure And so Miami Vice was universal being like I know none of this makes sense I know this movie shouldn't be this difficult And it shouldn't cost this much money Right But we're betting on the potential That he makes heat And even if we've now established a budget

[00:27:48] That there's no chance we hit in theatres If it's as good as heat We will continue to make money for us Right That's gone now People don't take these risks anymore We can argue about the industry all day But like the streaming industry is like

[00:28:03] The potential is just still like Unknown Like how much money is going to be made there And like that's going to be Where all of the future shakes out But there is a massive difference In terms of profits on a movie Between if it's streaming on a site

[00:28:21] Whether or not you're the conglomerate that owns that site Versus rentals or the like There is now Yes But in the future where there are ten Big companies running streaming sites bidding Things might change It's all just shifting that away But who knows, who knows Very weird time

[00:28:40] It's a weird time It's just like it's bad It's bad As I said to someone the other day when they were asking me about this The people want to watch shit It's so bad More than ever It's all they fucking want The world is melting

[00:28:56] I don't know if you've heard this I just found out about this But Donald Trump's president of America Donald J. Trump People don't like that Most of the appearance Exactly And so instead they're like Can I just fucking Like put my hands on my hands

[00:29:11] Wait a second, slow down Donald Trump is president of the United States of America Exactly, this is nuts But that guy He's no good verbatim He's no good He's no good They call him crazypid Okay, first of all First of all, how did that happen?

[00:29:32] Second of all, how have I not heard about this You think it'd be all over the news I know you'd think people would like make entire content industries out of covering No one's talking about this What if a Seinfeld was like

[00:29:44] I want to do ten minutes on you know, Fallon Yeah And I was like, you hear about this Donald Trump's the president That guy was host to the apprentice I can't even get over He's got silly hair

[00:29:55] I can't laugh at your drug because I cannot believe that I didn't know that this had happened Yeah You think Robert De Niro would be yelling about it or something Oh boy, no he hasn't weighed in yet We're not sure We're waiting He might like the guy

[00:30:08] We're waiting and seeing De Niro He might like the guy for all I know He's New Yorker Me, for me number one New York We stick together Robert De Niro cries in Spider-Man Every time that the New Yorkers throw rocks at the Green Goblin

[00:30:24] He's like, that's what New Yorkers do I would Stick together God, I would love to Then he cries like in Silver Lightning Playbook When he's like Like that He's sort of like all over the place I was gonna say Go ahead

[00:30:36] I would love to get the list of movies that make Robert De Niro cry I would love for Robert De Niro to be like You heard this scene so it always makes you cry One operation Dumbo drop every time When they drop that Dumbo You can do Scooby-Doo

[00:30:51] When Matthew Lillard says we're like two freaky pods He's a far out pod The trailer for Max The trailer for Max, that dog He served this country well I can't even do him No I feel like sometimes I can and then the other 98% of the time

[00:31:09] I so cannot Sometimes, we can all do the face We're doing some faces We're all doing the faces A lot of it's breathing A lot of it's the heavy breathing He's in New York He's in New York He came to Tribeca once Ted was very beautiful

[00:31:31] Okay, so here's the thing where you and I have been disagreeing No, let's not keep fighting about the industry Jesus, let's talk about Miami Vice Okay, now I'll just say this is my final point Alright I agree with you people on my watch stuff

[00:31:39] They're also super entitled and they don't like the idea of pain Right, but they're gonna have to eventually Well, that's what you say, but then What happened to journalism? Well, that's a I mean, what happened to journalism was Google and Facebook And so we'll see

[00:31:54] And what happened to media was Netflix Who doesn't like paying content creators Well, I mean, people are gonna be paid less There's no question about that I mean, again, I don't know if you've heard about this Donald Trump's the president Wait a second, what?

[00:32:06] He's not protecting people's rights To be paid, you know, and earn a living wage I mean, that must be so difficult for you as someone who has lived in New York your entire life 33 years up in here Never lived in another country Never lived in another country

[00:32:21] Except for 13 brief years where I was in London What? We should mention at this point that We had a guest we really want to have on this episode Who does not live in the city Right We're trying for almost a year to schedule And

[00:32:40] His name is Robert De Niro His name is Robert De Niro No, our potential guest was a very busy person Hopefully we'll get him on some We'll have him on for another episode We almost have two potential guests on this episode We're both busy people

[00:32:49] But so now we're recording this episode Almost at the last possible minute Yes, 100% Before we go on vacation And we're loopy Yeah, we're loopy Well, it's kind of like the inner-seller episode Another of my favorite of all time movies

[00:32:59] When I had a bag and I was going to the train Yeah, I was sick and hung over the day after You were The Take premiere, right? In between filming days on Hot air, available on digital August something Really? 29th, yeah, it's finally getting released Fuck yeah Yeah

[00:33:17] Hot air Yeah We're like, hot guy Can I will something into existence? Pointing at Griffin Can I will something into existence? Sure Hot air, my last time ever playing an assistant Wow What if like Fincher calls right now And he's like, I'm making this movie

[00:33:32] It's called The Assistant I know Someone's gonna fucking call me out on this Yeah, but you know what I'll say? Go ahead Then you've proven me wrong in my notion That I will never get work ever again Right, you'll just be like Oh yeah, sounds great

[00:33:44] I'm gonna do it Either way, I win Okay Okay Come on, it's been 35 minutes Jesus Christ, Miami Vice I mean that's pretty normal for us Michael Mann's done two Jamie Foxx movies in a row That's right Jamie Foxx has been growing And gaining statues is a dramatic actor

[00:34:04] Yeah, he was in breaking all the rules Right And then he started breaking all the rules In Hollywood He did a stand up special called Jamie Foxx straight from the foxhole What's his last stand up special? Jamie Foxx Unleashed Lost, stolen and leaked in 2003 Wow

[00:34:22] And let's not forget the one in the middle there Jamie Foxx I might need security Do you know why he picked the name Jamie Foxx? Because it's a completely made up name No Because he was doing stand up And he thought it was better out there

[00:34:36] For women in stand up So he picked a gender neutral name Because he thought he'd get booked more And they thought mistakenly that he was a woman His name is Eric Bishop Which is a perfectly good name And I'll say this, he looks like an Eric Bishop Yeah

[00:34:52] Well when you watch him in Miami Vice You're like, I believe this guy's name is Eric Bishop That kind of goatee he looks like an Eric Bishop Sure But you know what else he looks like? What? Jamie Foxx He does But at that point I have no idea

[00:35:05] Is it an onomatopoeia? Of course that's what Jamie Foxx looks like Yeah, that's true What are you gonna say? He's getting bigger and bigger And he says to Michael Mann Hey, here's an idea At the Ollie premiere Right He went up to him and he like

[00:35:17] He pitched him the opening scene Yeah Like it wasn't just like we should do Miami Vice He was like, Michael, Michael, Michael You gotta listen to me And like laid it all out I don't think he was like in higher column Farrell

[00:35:29] But he was like a nine tubs Right Right And Michael Mann was like Your number eight on the call sheet Go suck a lemon You know He was like that? I don't know Then he comes back around And I think Foxx restokes that fire Right You know

[00:35:44] He's like come on We should really do this And they go into Universal And they were like At this point This is like peak I love the 80s Everyone's making fun of 80s culture When did GTA Vice City come out? 2003 Like three or four Yeah Yeah So like

[00:36:00] Everyone's like having their laughs The aesthetic is in Right Cause now we've come back around to this Like Stranger things It was 2006. A little before vaporwave, but like getting there. They're filming this movie in 05.

[00:36:15] I'm saying now we're going through the 80s revival, the Stranger Things thing where people have like nostalgia. Like they love it. Remember how good the 80s made you feel? And back then in 2005 everyone was just like, the colors were dumb. People wore pink shirts? Right. Question mark? Right.

[00:36:36] So they were like, here's the pitch. What if no pastels? Right. You do Miami Vice. You said it now. Right. And it's actually about a vice squad. Like it's not MTV cops. It's about like the risk of these guys going undercover.

[00:36:50] It's like a slightly glamorized, certainly blockbusterized version of what being an undercover vice agent is. And everyone's like fucking slam dunk premise. Right. Here's the guy who created the show. Coming back to it 20 years later. It defined a generation. He's going to update it for a new generation.

[00:37:08] Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell seemed like the perfect choices. Oh yeah. He's coming off of his first $100 million grosser. Swat? I'm saying Michael Mann is coming off his first $100 million grosser. So is Jamie Foxx. I mean Colin Farrell. Swat. His father was a grosser.

[00:37:27] Yeah, his father was more of probably like a $50,000 grosser. Right. We'll have a lettuce grosser. Everyone's like, this is so straight down the middle. Does Michael Mann do what you did for collateral but in Miami Vice with these actors? 100%.

[00:37:43] And instead it's like his Fitzcarraldo where he's like we're going to film inside a hurricane. Yeah. He would have his location managers say like what are the most dangerous neighborhoods? Where would you say we shouldn't film? It's his Fitzcarraldo and Jamie Foxx's Klaus Kinski. Right. Yeah.

[00:38:02] So Jamie Foxx wills the movie into existence essentially. Right. And then is like fuck this. And at a certain point, Jamie Foxx walks off the movie. That's why Jamie Foxx is not in a lot of it. Really? He had to keep rewriting it.

[00:38:15] Like I think there was always the plan for the whole gangly. This is the secondary character. But this is the thing. They write after collateral set up the movie. Right. They get Colin Farrell attached. Yes.

[00:38:29] And then over the course of the next like nine months as pre-production development leads to actual, you know, the active pre-production. Jamie Foxx is one Oscar. Yep. Has had two huge hits in a row. Released an album at this point. Of course. Right.

[00:38:47] More than one album I think. Yes. But featured on kind of is like the kind of thing that's going to be the most important thing. And he demanded after the contract months after the contracts had been settled.

[00:38:57] I need to be first built and I need to make more money than Colin Farrell. Right. And Colin Farrell was like fine, I'll take less money. Yeah. I think Colin Farrell was very much like, huh? Right. Okay. Because he was so strong out one. Right.

[00:39:10] And two it's like, yeah, I mean Michael Mann seems cool. I think Colin Farrell was like, Colin Farrell is coming off of a Malik movie. Right. And like he had done SWAT. He'd done that block where it's like Daredevil SWAT, the recruit where it was just like plug

[00:39:24] him in, plug him in. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's hot. He's hot. Yeah. And then he kind of like, he's been slowing down a little bit. He did The New World. He did the Malik movie, which is phenomenal. Yeah.

[00:39:35] And so I think he's getting to be in the phase we now know him as where he's like, I kind of just want to work with directors who are like legendary, legendary, I kind of just want to work with directors who are like legendary or interesting.

[00:39:47] And this is sort of his last time trying to carry a conventional blockbuster for like five years. Right. Like, because he goes from this back into like in Bruges. I think that he doesn't make anything between this and in Bruges, right? Like, let's see. That's what I'm saying.

[00:40:03] No, I know. Well, no, he makes Ask the Dusk also comes out this year, which is the Robert Town movie. That had been shot a while earlier. It was an old one. Yeah. It was Dream with Woody Allen, Aaron McGregor, which is a fascinating movie.

[00:40:15] And like his lowest grossing film at the last 20 years or something. It was like a Kenish town brothers thriller. Whatever. It was set in like the neighborhood I grew up in in England. What?

[00:40:27] And then in 2008 he has Pride and Glory, which is like a pretty down the middle like decent cop drama by Gavin O'Connor that's like fine. Agreed. And then in Bruges, which is people being like, oh yeah, this guy was like a lightning in a bottle talent.

[00:40:42] We kind of forgot about him. And that's he wins the Glam Globe and he gives the speech where he's like, I thought I was out. I'm glad people gave me a second chance. You can tell how overwhelmed he is. Like he's so genuinely like, oh my God. Yeah.

[00:40:53] Right. And like for a little weird movie. And this is sober, Colin Farrell, who seemingly is like, I don't want to star in a hundred million dollar movies anymore. And also, you know, around that time is when he has the kid who has

[00:41:04] developmental disability, which he's also talked about like sort of helped set his priorities and set shit up for him. He had responsibility in his life for the first time. And then after that is when right, he makes like on Dean Triage,

[00:41:16] Crazy Heart, Dr. Parnassus, where he's just like, if you got a role for me, I'd love to be on set with you. I got no ego, but he always seems like I never had an ego.

[00:41:25] The fact that like Jamie Foxx was like, I need to make more money than Colin Farrell. And instead of Colin Farrell being like, fuck you and forcing them to pay Jamie Foxx more money.

[00:41:36] He was like, just take it out of my salary and give it over to him. Right. Make him first build even though that character has always been secondary. And in the movie. Right. And then Jamie Foxx was like, I'm not going to shoot all this shit.

[00:41:48] Well, there's apparently one of these like, I'm only doing two takes. Like I'm done for the day. There's that vibe. Although I still think that Jamie Foxx is great in this movie. So I also think Jamie Foxx is just like such an effortlessly charming actor.

[00:42:02] Yeah, like he's very compelling. Exactly. Yeah. And like, you know, they did horrible bosses together. I have no idea if they interacted in that movie, which is sort of funny. I think they don't. They don't think they do right? Because that movie is so vignetti. Yeah.

[00:42:15] But like Ben, look at this poster. Here's the original poster. Colin Farrell Academy Award winner, Jamie Foxx. And then they swap it. Then they swap it. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. It's a great poster. That just rarely happens though that they swap billing.

[00:42:32] But I mean, I'm just more it's like, are you happy now? Exactly. Okay. I mean, because already the poster is, I feel like the original poster, the way you're designing is like, yeah, Colin has first billing, but your face is foreground.

[00:42:45] So like, didn't we just split the difference? Like who cares? Yeah. But I do, I love this poster. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, that's when I was like, this movie is going to be huge. And then I remember the trailer was only available on like... The trailer rocked.

[00:43:00] It's, oh, it's in the Montcourt. Yes. Yes. But I feel like I remember like waiting for the trailer to come out and it only being visible, no law. David Trongme, the poster says no law and his fingers pointing up like he's getting an erection thumbs up.

[00:43:16] David's pointing at himself and he's making the finger like he's getting an erection. He wants me to know that he gets an erection when he looks at Colin Farrell's solo character poster for the 2000. David's like throwing his hands up like... It's like I'm in a soundproof boot.

[00:43:35] Like I'm laying down ahead. No order is the gong-lea poster and he's pointing at it, he's giving a thumbs up. Now he's making it rain. David is miming that he is making it rain.

[00:43:51] Okay, now he's turned it around again and this time we have a poster that says no order and is that John Ortiz? This is the John Ortiz character poster. And David is miming like the sun is rising. Like it's sort of always like an atom bomb explosion.

[00:44:10] It's like a mushroom cloud off of John Ortiz's character poster. One forgets that John Ortiz got a character poster. I fully forgot that John Ortiz had a character poster. I assume there's another character poster coming. Jamie Foxx didn't have a character poster. Oh no, he did. I'm sorry.

[00:44:25] He didn't show me that. Please complete the bit. Okay, so this one says no rules and it's Jamie Foxx and David is turning his laptop background. He's not doing any bits this time. He held up his hands like what are you going to do?

[00:44:38] I mean, I wish like, you know, Dominic... I wish Eddie Marson had got one. I wish Barry Shabaka-Henly had one. No action coach. My girlfriend, T-Sever, we were watching this movie together. Oh great. And when Barry Shabaka-Henly... Congratulations on the greatest date of all time. It was stressful.

[00:44:57] Why? I find this to be a very stressful movie to watch as did she because it is so hard to follow. Oh God. I mean, it helps that I've seen this movie 100 times, but sure. Admittedly, this is a dense obtuse film. I got questions for sure for you.

[00:45:14] I'm ready. You want question number one or no? You go. We'll get to it. We're watching the movie. Sounds like your obstacles one. He comes on screen, right? In like a group dialogue scene. Barry Shabaka-Henly? Right. He's in like the same scene as me.

[00:45:28] Playing me Edward James Ole Miss role. Right, which is incredible. Right. But he's in like the scene with like Karen Hines and then the rooftop and like six people are talking and they never introduce him properly. Yeah. And she was like, who's that guy?

[00:45:41] I was like, he's like their chief. Right. She was like, no, I mean, who's that? Who's that actor? Who is this guy? Where did that face come from? The most incredible face. And I was like, that guy's one of my favorite characters. Don't try to shine me on.

[00:45:51] He's got one of the best faces of all time. His name is Barry Shabaka-Henly. And she went, wait a second. His name is Barry Chubaka-Henly. And she thought like, oh, it must be spelled differently. Yeah. But his name is actually Barry Chubaka-Henly. Right. Which would be cool.

[00:46:12] It'd be very cool. It'd be cool if he was like, I'm named after my greatest hero, Chubaka. Yeah. Well, I mean it would be his father's hero. Is everything good Ben? Yeah. Okay. Just didn't want to lose anything. All right. Miami Vice. All right.

[00:46:26] So you found this movie stressful? I do. I mean, so we're preparing to watch it and there's like the one sentence description on Netflix. What's the one sentence description on Netflix?

[00:46:35] Like two Miami Vice Squad agents have to work with a drug dealer in order to bust up a deal or whatever. Okay. I'm going to find it. I'm going to like find what the... Yeah, find the one sentence. Yeah.

[00:46:49] But we were getting to watch it and I was like, I have only seen this movie once before. Oh, you've only seen it once? I saw it 15 years ago. Right. I saw it in theaters. I could not make sense of it.

[00:47:00] I know many people who love it now. Right. And my mind, it plays better than it did when I saw it. Sure. My advice to you is the way I'm going into this movie now seeing it for a second time

[00:47:11] is do not even try to make sense of what's going on. You don't have to. It's fine. You just got to vibe on this thing. Attempting to identify the group behind a recent string of murders. Kind of. Behind murders. It's not a string. Kind of. It's a shooting.

[00:47:28] Right. Detectives, Tubbs and Crockett. Correct. Work undercover. Correct. With the South Florida drug dealer. I mean, with is stretching it, but sure. Yeah. They pretend to work with him, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He's more of a Colombian drug dealer, but whatever. It's okay.

[00:47:46] She kept asking me for clarification. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know. And I think you need to stop attempting to figure out. Okay. Just watch it 10 more times. Well, I guess that's the solution.

[00:48:00] I was constantly like having such a hard time tracing what everyone was doing in relation to everyone else. I enjoyed it a lot more this time. I do not love this movie as much as you do. It's hard. It's gonna be hard. Yes.

[00:48:14] But it is one of those films. And I'm someone, I will say, I am someone who like, I think in like a control issue way gets stressed out when I feel like I can't figure out what a movie is doing. Okay.

[00:48:28] You won't just sort of like give yourself over to it and be like, I'll figure this out later. I've been working on it. Sure. I have been trying to more and more. Right. Let me just sort of like seed my right. Right.

[00:48:40] But like sometimes I need people to tell me that in advance, but even like inherent advice movie were on the first time I was like, I cannot fucking deal with this movie. Yeah. Which is that's, I would say even more stressful than this. Right.

[00:48:51] I was like, this is the most antagonistic movie I've ever seen. Sure. And then I saw. I need to rewatch that one. I've watched it probably three more times at home when I love it. Clearly.

[00:48:59] But when I went back to it, I was just like, I'm now going to go into it knowing that none of this matters having made it to the ending of the movie and knowing that the thing never makes sense. Right.

[00:49:09] And just trying to vibe on the guy in the world. Yeah. And I tried to do that with this film and I was certainly more successful than when I saw it in theaters. Okay. But it still stresses me out being like, wait, what am I supposed to know

[00:49:21] and what am I not supposed to know at this point? And what's your question been? So they go, I don't remember exactly because again, it's so hard to kind of like track this movie. I can't even write. Yeah.

[00:49:31] But basically when he first meets the pig man, he pulls the grenade, pulls the pin. Yeah. They have this tense moment. Then they get back to business. Right. What happens to the grenade? Put the pin back in. He put the pin back in.

[00:49:47] What do you see that happening? I know who's doing that. I presume. I presume. I see a grenade. It would be funny if they were like, he's like, can you take this and just like throw it pretty far away from you? I needed that.

[00:49:58] I needed closure when I see a grenade and activated. I've got a significant point. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. That's the moment. Deathbed rules. I was about... No, that's just Michael Manzo, monster princess Leia. Yeah. Yes.

[00:50:12] My girlfriend at that scene said, I should do this every time I have a general meeting. Walk in with a hand grenade. Close her eyes right now. Yeah. Do you want to fuck my partner or do you want to do business with them? Yeah.

[00:50:29] The big Jamie Foxx walkout thing was they were filming in all these dangerous neighborhoods. Michael Man would almost look for the neighborhoods that people told him not to film in. In the D.A. and the Dominican Republic, which is where a lot of this was filmed.

[00:50:40] Areas where the police don't even go. Sure. And then they would hire the drug gangs to work as security for them. That is not true. That is an exaggeration. They hired like a sort of like a paramilitary sort of like somewhat government affiliated group to do security. Shady.

[00:50:55] And then what happened was and Colin Farrell was on Bill Simmons's podcast in a pretty lovely conversation because he's a lovely guy. And you can tell that Simmons like me, like Miami Vice and is like, oh, let's talk about it.

[00:51:06] Colin Farrell is like, I am not trying to be rude. I honestly don't remember a lot of that movie. Like I just honestly don't. But he's like, one thing I do remember is the day the shooting happened on set, my dad was visiting and Gong Lee was there.

[00:51:18] And we heard the gunfire and I know what gunfire sounds like. And I just like ushered them. I was like, let's just, you know, and like I ushered them back like into like a sort of a safer place.

[00:51:30] And we like sat there for hours and hours because what had happened was someone had tried to approach the set right and was like, it is a movie set. You know, and then rather than like the security guy,

[00:51:40] it's like, I don't know, like just grabbing him or pushing him away. They just shot him. They were like, what the fuck are you doing and shot him because it was a little more. I'm trying to find trigger situation back then and you know,

[00:51:54] that's an issue when the production moved to a relatively upscale area. This is from the slate article. Yeah, a local man, a police officer approached the set got into a plane like he wasn't in uniform. Yes, got into a quarrel with a guard once supplied by the

[00:52:11] Dominican military and allegedly pulled the gun. Yes, the man was shot and wounded. Right. It was very scary man. He didn't die. Just shot and wounded. What if this guy has six brothers? What if they blamed us? All these questions rush into your head.

[00:52:25] Interesting that that's where man goes where he's like, I don't want some brother coming after him. Six. Some gang of brothers. He was worried about six of them. Right. He says, care was taken to ensure that the cast and crew would leave the set safely that day. Yeah.

[00:52:39] But immediately after that incident, Fox and his entourage packed up and left for good. Jamie basically changed the whole movie in one stroke, a crew member says, and not in his opinion for the better. The ending that was supposed to be shot in Paraguay would

[00:52:49] have been much more dramatic. I think there's this ending that's probably like going to be in this dramatic landscape, right? If it's in Paraguay with like these mountains or whatever. They probably had some cool triple frontier shit locked and loaded and Jamie Foxx was like,

[00:53:03] I will only shoot if it's in America. That was instead it's like in some warehouses in Miami. He walks off after off the set at that point and says, I will only film in the United States of America at this point.

[00:53:16] He made Universal get him a private jet for the movie. Right. Asked about Fox's departure, man doesn't speak for a moment and then says, you hear the sound of silence. I mean they never work together again. Nope. After three films collaborating together.

[00:53:36] But then earlier in the same article, they're asking man about Jamie Foxx and he says, I'm not going to disdirt about Jamie. He has a unique process of acting and most people don't understand it. He and I are real close that allows us to disagree about stuff. Sure.

[00:53:57] Sure. So I mean I think he likes. I think Michael Mann it is in is a difficult person. Right. I think he's pretty happy to call you an asshole like publicly on set or whatever. You know like he'll challenge you.

[00:54:11] They're talking about the thing though in this article where like every night apparently Michael Mann would like talk for two hours into a recorder and then someone would transcribe it and then all the department heads would get the transcription and try to figure out what they

[00:54:23] needed to do based off of that. And they were like it included all the oz and ums in it like written out. Fair enough. And they were saying like one of the reasons the movie cost so much money was he would like rewrite every day

[00:54:35] and change his mind and he'd be like, I want to keep all my options open. Can we book these five locations and then I'll decide on Tuesday which one we use. And they were saying like it is very expensive to shut down

[00:54:47] a highway to like get permits in a foreign country or like figure out when you're going to fly the crew from one country to another. And a thing that I found very telling is in this article the head of universal defends him. Right. Right.

[00:55:03] I think it's actually very commendable that he is not that locked in. That he is. I want to find his exact wording here. Um. I'll find it. I can give it to you because I have. Right. So someone works with them a crew member says he was

[00:55:18] almost like a kid in a candy shop that kind of decision becomes a systemic thing. It's hard at the last minute to make deals with vendors, rent a plane, close down a freeway. Michael Mann says like, you know, you do whatever

[00:55:27] you do to get this out of the scene. And then Mark Schmuger says he's becoming an enthusiastic backer of the director's methods. Schmuger says I actually marvel at his ability to keep all of his creative options open. He's fearless. He's willing to try everything.

[00:55:40] That's a process that does involve wear and tear on everybody. And I'm seeing here that Mark Schmuger is a, oh, not still the head of universal. Yes. I mean, that job is. Here is another point I want to make. People moving out of those jobs. Yes.

[00:55:52] Just because it needs be brought up again. Okay. Okay. Michael Mann's good and this is a good movie. Correct. Sure. It's a fair systemic thing if we're talking about the systems. Yeah. Every female director who does that. Of course it's called a maniac.

[00:56:08] They don't know what they want. Right. Right. That was always the fucking Nancy. Every crew person I know who's worked with Nancy Myers says like she's a maniac. Yeah. She does know what she wants. She can't make up her mind.

[00:56:19] You can't light a sweater, you know, where is right Michael Mann? It's like, well, we're making a movie here about cops. This is a real thing. Right. Right. And Michael Mann, he can't make up his mind and the head of universal is like, he's actually

[00:56:29] more creative than the rest of us. I think it's great that he can't make a choice. This is all fair. I also think like as much as Jamie Foxx has sort of gotten public ship for walking off the set of

[00:56:41] this movie, I might be mad too if there was like, you know, gunfire on a set and you feel like the situation's unsafe and like, I don't know that Jamie Foxx is like entirely in the wrong for flipping out. Here are other things. I don't, I don't know.

[00:56:55] He refused to be on a boat or a plane. Yeah, I've heard that. Which is, have you seen my, it's so funny because he's the one who's like Miami Vice, we got to do it. Miami on the water. That's the problem is like this is a show

[00:57:08] that's defined by them like constantly traveling on or above the water. Yeah. He wanted to make it and then was like not doing the vehicles. All right, Jamie. Right. Then doesn't want to go to the other countries like, you know, some of his concerns were justified. Yeah.

[00:57:24] But I also think he was at a level of like star fuckery that he could justify anything he was feeling it anymore. This is why this movie is so special. You have Michael Mann with the studio, so like I guess do whatever you want

[00:57:35] because he like finally is like beginning to generate like real profit. And this is also like you said, this is 10 years after heat and they're like, do you know how much money we make off heat every year? And what he gets is the same thing. Exactly.

[00:57:46] So they're like, fuck it. Let him do what he wants. Jamie Foxx, he's like, I am a god. I will do what I want. Let him do what he wants. Colin Farrell, he's like, I'm too famous. Like I don't know what's happened to me.

[00:57:57] I'm not a person anymore. But also by all accounts, Colin Farrell is like the inverse of Jamie Foxx where he just likes giving himself to a director. Right. And just do with me what you want. Exactly. And all the crew people who speak in this article are like,

[00:58:10] Colin is so professional. Yeah. He knows all of his lines. He shows up. He's good every take, which is incredible because he was blasted out of his mind drunk. But they were just like, But Colin's like, what's it? A go fast boat? What does it do? Go fast?

[00:58:23] Sure. And Jamie has a very small list of things he will do. Right. Whereas like that's why I like something like Jorga Slamp the most when I interviewed him. He clearly just loves Colin Farrell because he can just say to Colin Farrell,

[00:58:34] more like a robot, more like less, less like let me control you. Because these directors who are like, I know exactly what I want you to do. I think he relishes being a color on someone else's palette. I think he likes being just a utility.

[00:58:48] But he's so sweet because it's like, yeah, Miami Vice, I mean, that one's a mess. You know, people are saying to him on podcast, like, no, it's great. And he's like, I guess so. And then like later true detective season

[00:58:58] two comes up and he's like, no one like that one. And the guy's like, I don't know. I mean, it's weird and you're good in it. And he's like, I guess so, you know, he's never going to be like, you know, like full of himself about these things.

[00:59:08] No, but all three of these guys, I think kind of are embarrassed by this movie. Fox and Farrell and man. And it has built this like even within like a year or two. Yeah. There's a there's a Steve Hayden quote on the Wikipedia. That's him saying like,

[00:59:26] I feel like it has now been accepted within certain circles as one of the best action movies ever made. The plot and the dialogue are incomprehensible. Right. But you just got to feel it. And Harmony Coran is like, that's my whole mood. This is I want breakers.

[00:59:39] I wanted to bring this up. Definitely picked up on that where he was like, that movie. I'm going to read you the quote. I'll read you the quote. The reason I love man's movies and that movie in particular is that I could feel the place

[00:59:50] when I watch the film. I don't even pay attention to what they're saying or the storyline. I love the colors. I love the texture. Yeah. And that's definitely right. That like spring breakers, that's his vibe. Yes. Yes. I think spring breakers is a superior. Oh, that's too far.

[01:00:05] But that's I mean, I'm sitting right here. Name another movie. Name a movie. Name a movie. Say it's superior to just Miami Vice. Okay. I think Toy Story 2 is superior to Miami Vice. Oh, that's insane. Come on. Come on. Come to play. Come to play.

[01:00:22] Spring breakers might be on my top 10 in the last decade. I mean, next year we're going to do our blankies for the decade. Okay. Midnight run. Midnight run. And that's a good movie. Yeah, right? Love Miami Vice though. We got to be the breast man. The breast?

[01:00:37] Oh, well, we got to do breast and show as a mini series. No, we got to do the showtime made for TV movie breast men about the guys who invented breast implants starring David Schwimmer and Chris Cooper. I think you're right. Right? Schwimmer and Cooper?

[01:00:52] Here, I got it. That's a movie I used to Google a lot when I was 13 if you catch my drift. No. It's... Okay, David's gone to the bathroom. We can talk about anything. Oh, true. Okay, what should we do? We're like children in a candy shop.

[01:01:08] I mean, spring breakers are definitely better than Miami Vice, right? Yeah. A bunch of people are going to come out at us because people love Miami Vice. Everyone who lives on the podcast loves Miami Vice. But you and I, we're on the same page about that. 100%.

[01:01:19] Spring Breakers World. It's such a good movie. It's so good. It's going to be like a defining movie, I think, for, I guess, the 2000s? Yeah, and I love Harmony less than you do. I like him. I know he's like your number one guy. He really is.

[01:01:34] I think that movie is a masterpiece. Yeah, yeah. I love Spring Breakers. And I also love too that... That's what we talked about while you were in the past. Yeah, I mean, I love Spring Breakers too. And I think he's great in Spring Breakers.

[01:01:44] I think he's either my winner or close that year for supporting actor. I think he would have been my winner right now. I love him in Milk. I think he's the heart of that movie. I think that's a phenomenal performance. I think he's...

[01:01:52] He's given a lot of great performance. He's a bad guy. He's also fucking weirdos, probably a terrible guy. Yeah, exactly. And he does so much bad work because he's insisted on doing so much. Yeah, right. But that movie to me is like, it's about aging like punk. Yeah.

[01:02:08] And how it catches up with you and you can't live like this. Yeah. The real consequence. That's a great read. I mean, we should do Karine just for Ben. For Ben's music. And I would like to bring his back to my enemies.

[01:02:20] He's doing a circle with his hand. And I would like to say that I want a stash house. I always thought... Anytime I see a stash house, I'm like, I want a stash house. So stash houses seem like aesthetically cool. That could be...

[01:02:35] I mean, you could turn your parents' house in New Jersey into a stash house. You could trade it like... I'm not sure what I'm thinking. Yeah, I'm just gonna have it empty. It looks where I stashed the jeans. Yeah, the bare E-jams. All right.

[01:02:46] Wait, let's commit to this right now though. Okay. Harmony, Karine and March Madness next year. Oh sure. Yeah. Yeah, right. Absolutely. It's gonna be an all weirdo's bracket, right? I think we're not gonna put any canonical favorites in the bracket. Exactly. No winners. Yeah.

[01:03:00] Winners but not losers bracket. So if you wanna hear me fucking lose it over gummo... Yeah. Man, you know who to vote for. Wow. 16 people are excited. Right? Okay. So Mammy Vice... We've been talking about it but now let's get into the movie.

[01:03:16] I will literally bring a tub into the studio. Tubbs? Okay. And soak in tomato juice. Oh, interesting. Okay, so I'm gonna remove Harmony Karine from the bracket. Let me just delete. Where's the delete button? Here we go. Next year's bracket. Harmony Karine, Lenny Ray Finstall,

[01:03:33] Walt Becker who didn't hire me so now I can go back to saying whatever. So it's the vulgar or tourist bracket? Should we do that? Vulgarity. Kind of maybe. I'm gonna say that now though just now that I'm definitively not in the Clifford The Big Rib Dog movie.

[01:03:47] Fuck Walt Becker. I mean, I was still but I was like, I wanna watch this guy work. Right. I was so fucking close to being in that movie. As Clifford. Not as Clifford. Not as Clifford. As the paw.

[01:03:58] I would have just been the physical stand-in for the paw. At this point the D&D episodes dropped right? Yeah. So the world's been introduced to your character who has a dog hand? Dog punch. Well his hand is a paw that turns into a bite.

[01:04:13] It turns into a bite. Which you just... Whatever the fuck that is. Whatever that was and I was like, yeah, you do that. Sure. Go ahead. That's fine. You do that. The language of not... He's got a dog par that turns into a mouth.

[01:04:26] It turns into a bite. It turns from a thing into an action. Yeah. It's got teeth in there. Yeah, it turns into a bite. Guys. All right. Miami Vice. What's your favorite part? It's pretty good. Just smash to... Smash to the middle of Numb Encore. Yeah.

[01:04:46] There in a club. There's an album called Collision. Collision course. Collision course, right. The Jay-Z, Linkin Park album, right? Right. And it's Linkin Park's Numb which is, you know... I've become so far... All that and then Encore which is a pretty great Jay-Z song from the black album.

[01:05:06] Encore, do you want more? Yeah. Now, the director's cut removes this? Or is there another scene before it? Is that what happens? Fucking director's cut. Because you hate the director's cut, right? Sucks. Hate the director's cut. Let me... I have actually a list here.

[01:05:21] Yeah, the director's cut opens on like a boat race. Okay. And there's like opening credits over it. So that sucks. And then there's like a little more with Neptune who's played by Isaac de Bancolle. Yes.

[01:05:35] And then there's the guy who's like the sort of the guy they're working when they get interrupted by all this. Right. So there's some of that. But you and most fans of this movie love the in-media res drop you in with no fucking time to assimilate. No explanation.

[01:05:49] That you're there. Right, they're in this club. They're all kind of moving around. You can barely hear what they're saying. What they're saying is entirely incomprehensible lingo. Yeah, exactly. And Jamie Foxx at one point kind of like breaks the guy's hand. Who's sort of trying to touch him.

[01:06:05] Dom goes to some room with two women. Yeah, Don Lumber, Dossy. Yeah. I mean the the the I love Dom the crew. You know they don't get a lot to do, but it's a good crew. It's a weird crew. Naomi Harris. Justin Thoreau. Justin Thoreau.

[01:06:20] What's a Dom Lumber Dossy who the wire is maybe just finish her on. The wire is getting close to the end of its run. Okay. And Elizabeth Rodriguez, who I love. She was in like Fear of the Walking Dead. She's been around.

[01:06:34] Can we I know like Orange is the new black. I know we're finally getting into the movie. Can we just sidebar Naomi Harris for one second? Okay. Because this is one of those like careers are so long trajectories. I find fascinating. Okay.

[01:06:45] It was like, you know, she's very new at this point. This is the same year as Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah. These are her two big studio films she gets off of 28 days later. 28 days later and she'd been in some English mini series. I'm saying right.

[01:06:58] She's like an English TV actress, right? Yeah. She gets in Danny Boyle's experimental film that then becomes a surprise sort of crossover success. And then it's very much that thing where it's like, oh, Killy and Murphy is going to be in Hollywood films now.

[01:07:12] Naomi Harris is going to be in Hollywood films now. They were in the thing that broke out and we're going to put them into things. Right. And she this summer is in two huge movies. Yes. Pirates of the Caribbean where she is so fucking good. Sure.

[01:07:23] In the first one, she's fun. She's in two and three. No, she's in, yeah, two and three. Sorry. Yeah. You're right. She's the weird voodoo lady. Yeah, yeah. She's great. And then. Yeah. She rules it. She's so fucking weird in those movies. She is. I agree.

[01:07:40] She's the best performance in the sequels. No. Who's better? Jeffrey Rush. One of the most phenomenal performances just incredible. In three? In three. Just outrageously good. I think she is. We're going to, we got to do them right now. Stop the podcast. Okay. We're watching them all.

[01:07:58] It's getting gory in there. I'm going to go get peanuts. Ben's going to go get peanuts. Okay. All right, but then what do you. I mean, and then she kind of like bounces around. I mean, what'd you want to say about Naomi Harris? Okay, Ben's gone.

[01:08:13] What can we talk about only while Ben's here? Europe, nothing up with Europa right now. He doesn't care about Europe. That's like low key. I think he couldn't pick it up out of a line. If we like for four planets on them before bodies on the wall. Yeah, 100%.

[01:08:29] You could put, here's how much he doesn't care about Europa. Let's tell him Europa was in Miami Vice. Here's how much he doesn't care. Hey, how's it going? Oh, sure. I'll take a bag of peanuts. Thank you. It's going to be four hours long.

[01:08:44] But I feel like she does those and then it's like, oh, I guess she didn't really connect as like a blockbuster person. Then she goes back to smaller movies. Then by the time she gets brought into Skyfall, it was kind of like, oh, Naomi Harris. Hey, Naomi Harris.

[01:08:58] As Miss Moneypenny. Right. Like, oh, right. Oh, right. No one ever really figured out what to do with her. And then she gets her Oscar nomination. She's terrific. Right. But then she like gets it as like she's the only bankable name in moonlight.

[01:09:12] She's the somewhat recognizable person in moonlight. And they only had a few days. I think either two or three days. It was like an incredibly short amount of time. Yeah. And it was one of those things where they were like,

[01:09:23] you have to be at 100 immediately because we just have no time because that's a demanding and difficult role. Right. She only, I think that she only had three days because it couldn't work out her visa.

[01:09:34] So she was only able to be there for a very short period of time. And she's the only one who works with all three Chiron's. Right. I mean, she's a looming important figure. Right. And she has like, she's on, you know, it's crack. It's not crack.

[01:09:48] And like she's bothering her kid, but then there's also like the emotional scene with grown up Chiron where like she's crying with him and like it's a lot to do. Those three phases are wildly different. Yeah. And they're bringing it to different act. Anyway, whatever.

[01:10:00] I think that's a great performance. I do too. I feel like that performance gets kind of like shaded a little bit because people like, oh, it's the most like actory performance. One of my biggest regrets on this podcast in which I

[01:10:10] regret almost everything I've ever said is I feel like I kind of shaded her in our blankies that year. And she's. Because I picked Janelle over her for supporting actors. But they're both great performances. Yeah. But she's in this movie, but like the rest of the

[01:10:23] supporting cast, including Barry Shabaka Henley. Yeah. They don't have a ton to do. No. Because they are playing characters who are from a TV show and in TV shows you're going to have 22 episodes and each supporting character might get a couple episodes that gets doable.

[01:10:38] He gets B plots. He gets C plots. And this is a big movie, but it's still a 132 minute movie. Like it's just not that long. Right. And so they are in it and you're kind of like, holy shit, Justin Thoreau.

[01:10:48] But Jane Foxx and Naomi Harris are dating and they're in love. Hell yeah. And they're in love with it to cuddle in the shell. Hell yeah. It's amazing how much more this scene shows off Jamie Foxx's body than Naomi Harris's body. I love it.

[01:11:03] Which I'm sure was a Jamie Foxx demand. Hell yeah. Because he got into like movie star shape. Jamie Foxx looks incredible in this movie. He looks insane. Jamie Foxx is somewhere where I could probably like, I don't know, like dress him in like

[01:11:14] shit rags and he would just look for it. I'd be like, God, these shit rags are vibing right now. He, I'm not saying this as a positive nor negative. I'm just stating it as an empirical fact. He's got the single tightest ass I've ever seen in this movie.

[01:11:26] Wait, Pacino? Is he in this new studio? He's got a tight ass. Come back to sleep. Let me sleep. You could make diamonds in that thing though. Yeah, 100%. Jane Foxx is butt cracking this movie. Call it the diamond pipeline. I don't know. I'm sorry.

[01:11:47] Everyone needs a break after that one. Yeah. Okay. We're in the club. The club scene is incredible. God knows what's going on. No one knows. Fucking incredible. At this point in the movie also, God literally comes down from the clouds.

[01:12:01] He's like, for the record, I don't know what's going on. Man was on the, off the reservation. Before you say God knows what's going on, I want to make it very clear. I cannot follow this movie. Then Crockett gets a concerning call from a CI. Right.

[01:12:15] Played by John Hawks playing character called Alonzo. And when you hear the name Alonzo, you think John Hawks. There's this incredible sequence where they are on the rooftop, him and Tubbs. And they're screaming on the phone about how this is the situation, this is the hand that

[01:12:36] we have been dealt at 9.57 a.m., 9.57 p.m., the whole, that all thing. The thunder is rumbling behind them, all that shit. I'm trying to find the exact quote, but this is the big moment that Manuela Dargis talks about in her best of 2006. Here I found it.

[01:12:54] But like, that shot, wow, I forgot that, no, New World's 2005. I was going to say that Comfort had these two things back to back, but it was technically 2005, but not really released until 2006. Okay. Miami Vice. Chloro-Santana, Miami Vice is a glorious,

[01:13:15] shimmering object, and made me think more about how new technologies are irrevocably changing our sense of what movies look like than any other film, more than any other film I've seen this year. Partly shot using a Viper film-streamed camera. The film shows us a world that seems to

[01:13:29] stretch on forever without the standard sense of graphical perspective. This is the magic of digital, obviously, is that everything's focused. And then this is her line, which has just rattled in my brain for years. Because I had seen this movie, I went, it's okay.

[01:13:43] It's like five billion times the writer I will ever be. She's so good. She's very cool too. She doesn't get enough credit. People acknowledge her as one of the best film writers, and she still doesn't get enough credit. She should have won the Pulitzer Prize.

[01:13:56] She says, when Crockett and Tubb stand on a Miami roof, it says if the world were visible in its entirety, as if all our familiar time and space coordinates have dropped away because they have, I have never forgotten that line. I'm so glad you pulled that up.

[01:14:13] And not rewatching that movie, I always think about that line going like, I don't give that movie enough credit. That is a great way of describing a series of shots that when I saw them in theater, I found disoriented. When I saw this through movies in theater,

[01:14:26] we both thought in theaters, if you didn't talk about this, I didn't hate it, but I was like, what was that? I didn't hate it either. I was just kind of confounded. I was like, I don't really know what to make of it. But people hated this movie.

[01:14:35] It was not well received. Any time I load it up on iTunes, I see that fucking rotten, rotten sticker. Because you know how they have the RT-splat. Brought into mat. But certainly the look of this movie, Ben, you might have noticed too, the digital graininess is so high.

[01:14:54] I was talking to JD, a Past and Future guest, a friend of the show, King Among Men about it. And he was like, it's kind of like what they were doing shooting on these digital cameras that are so new. It's kind of like Lucas with

[01:15:07] Attack of the Clones. That but also he was like, it's kind of like Ang Lee with Billy Lin. It's like you're trying something that has just arrived. And the technology is not really ready yet. Speed Racer. I love the aesthetic though. I mean, and that's obviously I'm biased.

[01:15:22] Nothing looks like it. But it has aged well. And it's almost like a thing where it's like lo-fi in this unique way that you can't really get anymore. Because it's one of those things where it's like that period of time with like, you know,

[01:15:38] period of time with like digital photography where it was just like we're saying, like just sort of on the precipice of like getting to where we are now. But there was such a narrow window of what was considered cinematic. Sure. In terms of it needing to have a

[01:15:55] filmic quality. Right. That at this time everyone was like, this looks so fucking cheap. Yeah, it looks janky. No one could get over. This would be cost $150 million. Like where did it go? Where did it go? Yeah. Here's, I'm just going to quote that.

[01:16:08] That was back when digital sensors had a lot of issues so they would crank the grain. Right. And then your drooling, I thought there was something up. Some of the loudest drooling I've ever heard. And they did it sort of like you

[01:16:22] would do when you changed ISO to a faster stock. This is when he's absolutely fucking losing me. But like he's basically like it's like the Billy Lin thing where they're keeping the aperture wide open but they won't over temperature makes it doesn't look great.

[01:16:37] That thing where people might look black in one instant. Right. And then they sort of body moves with the cameras a little bit and suddenly like the whole color of them changes. Right. But like his thing is I would rather like as JD said like

[01:16:48] crank it own the graininess and not have to put artificial lights in there. Right. And allow it to be as dark as it could be and also have that infinite depth of field where like in some of those rooftop scenes as when Alderga said it goes on forever.

[01:17:02] Like you can just see like everything in focus and you're like that must be a hundred blocks away. And Miami is such a dramatic looking city too. Which is cool. Yes. So anyway the goat they get in their car they're driving in that Ferrari that like shoots

[01:17:15] blue flames out of its ass. Which this is another thing you can tell he's getting off on there are so many shot setups where it's like him getting off on I'm going to place the camera somewhere where I could never place the camera. Yes because the cameras are

[01:17:29] smaller durable. Yeah. Right. And the car stuff or the boat stuff where it's like it just looks like they taped to the camera to the side of the boat. Right. And he's getting what now we're used to as like sort of GoPro angles. But back then you're like

[01:17:43] that's not how you shoot someone in a vehicle. But it looks so cool. Yes. And they seem so real is the I guess the best way to describe it just like they shot to them are just driving. Right. Like when they're not talking to each other there's

[01:17:57] no exposition. Right. We're just seeing them like go really fast. Go fast. Go fast cars. Sometimes like a home movie like slowly getting an erection with his finger and now he's to go on bed. Sorry. I've heard of one direction but two erections. I forgot now. Okay.

[01:18:20] I had them there up and so and we have the scene with Alonzo that is just so scary where you know where he's saying oh I remember now they took my lady and that's how they you know I've dubbed them it I like I had to

[01:18:33] flip but Jamie fact says you don't have to go home. Jamie Foxx is really good in that scene. Yeah. All the hand held off. You know it runs me of like home movies like VHS. Yeah. Well no that's what people complain about. That's why people are like

[01:18:48] why does this look like America's finest home video. Exactly. That's what people hate it about the whole digital people are wrong. Yeah. But that's also like I mean like frame rate shit a movie has this sort of speed to it. And if something is at the

[01:19:03] speed of video I'm used to thinking this looks like my barbecue. Right. Like this looks like my family reunion. This looks like that video my dad getting hit in the nuts. Sounds good. Yeah. Love all those videos. Yeah. Come on but him Hawks stepping in front of

[01:19:21] the truck. Okay that was the moment where my girl went like wait what the fuck did I just see and that cut of the truck slowing down and you see just like a second of like blood underneath the wheels. Yeah. That's when she like lost

[01:19:32] and she was like was that a streak of blood under the truck. And this thing that he gets at because he's like not going at 24 frames per second is how been now these really intense gruesome violent things would look or feel in real life versus

[01:19:50] how stylized Michael Mann chief of all used to make them look because yeah like all the stuff where they're like in the car and the car starts getting shot up and the way the like. They're like limbs and shit go like flying but also like this

[01:20:07] stuffing from the chairs and it just sort of goes like you know like it's all it's not slow motion like the fucking leather bursting open. No totally right. It's just like things are random and chaotic. This is all good I love this. Yeah. Totally right.

[01:20:25] This is the stuff you're really into what about the other 125 minutes. I'm saying that element that running to another erection. All right so the mission is revealed and there's this whole show down with Fujima who's a new character played by Karen Hins. I love how everyone in this

[01:20:43] movie like has a name that does not correspond to their ethnicity at all. Why is he called Fujima? No idea. Why is Don Hawks called Alonzo? No idea. But explain the mission to me. This is the kind of stuff where I'm just like I never get my

[01:20:58] head around exactly what anyone's trying to do in this movie. So the feds got shot by these whites of the an Aryan you know enforcer gang right? Uh huh. Right we see that. They come back at the end. Yeah they are always in league with the cartel. Okay.

[01:21:15] They're like an American drug dealers who were like you know as Fox says like the Aryan brotherhood is usually just like tweakers and meth labs like why are these guys so serious? Like these are guys with like big guns. Yeah and also let's just say

[01:21:29] what a simpler time. I mean now a white supremacist can be anything or anybody. President? Yeah. Dream big. Back then yeah you had to be a heavy and you know work with the Colombian cartel you're not even number one. Right and now white supremacists

[01:21:45] are like I don't like the way this movie is making us look hateful. You think of Miami Vice came out now? Yeah. Like the fascists would be mad about it? I want to know about the white supremacist next door. Okay. White supremacist can work at a

[01:21:59] I'm trying to explain the movie. At agency? So the F the feds got shot as we see. Stuffing you were talking about stuff. Okay so because Fujima here and hands is saying to these guys like yeah we had this whole operation and clearly like there's a mole or

[01:22:15] something because like they knew how to how to root it out. Right? And Farrell and I mean Tubbs and Ricardo Crockett and Tubbs are kind of going like you know you guys are assholes your opposite is blown like they seem like completely dismissive of him.

[01:22:30] But so the new mission is they as Miami cops were not involved in the whole sort of federal chain of command. Right there's city cops. Yeah. So they will infiltrate this cartel. They're going to go deep. Jose Yerro and they're going to claim to do transportation for

[01:22:51] him which is like the one thing he outsources and through him they will find out what the deal is with the white supremacist who murdered these cops. These feds. Yeah. So there you go that's what they do. Now and then when they do it

[01:23:07] they do such a good job that they get hooked up to the king of it all the you know the on hell. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. But the grenade one. Yeah. Okay. Do they throw it does he I you can't put a pin back in. I'm sorry.

[01:23:23] You can put a pin back the rest of the boot. You can. Yes. I've seen the rules of grenades in my world you pull a pin. You got to throw it. You're thinking of the old sort of like great that looks like a big grape but the

[01:23:34] grapes you know it has like a pin like that but like now they have the clip that you hold down and the pins what's holding it down. I had no idea they had updated grenade technology. This feels like a good time to mention that a blank check

[01:23:47] press or publishing imprint of course one of the first books will be the rules of grenades in Ben's world. Do you have more questions. Yeah. Does John Rautiz know that there cops the whole movie. No he just thinks they are he's the only one who's

[01:24:06] like I smell a rat with these. That thing at the beginning where he's like looking them up on the computer and he like looks at their profiles. Yeah. Those are their fake profiles. The fake profiles that they made for them. OK. Yeah. But so he's very suspicious

[01:24:20] but he's just he does not have proof that it doesn't have proof because I the whole movie thought that he knew for a fact. No because then he would just kill that's why I was confused the whole movie. No he he he's the only one

[01:24:29] who's like I don't like the smell of these guys and everyone else they successfully sort of fool everyone else into saying thinking like he's just jealous because these guys are so good right you know what I mean they're cool right. These guys are getting like ten fifteen million

[01:24:43] dollars per movie. John RT is what are you getting like 250. Yeah how much do you think Ortiz got for this fourth bill. Yeah I might be fifth bill for a movie this expensive. I imagine he got a lot like especially in overtime. Right yeah. Yeah per diem.

[01:24:59] In the Dominican Republic. Yeah. This is where the people's per diem was just bricks of coke. I'm like this man said I don't know you flip it or something. That was the thing where he made Colin Farrell Jamie Foxx didn't agree to do this but

[01:25:13] Colin Farrell go on a bunch of drug bust with him. Yeah. And then it turned out that the bus were staged by Michael Mann. Right. That he tricked Colin Farrell into thinking he was on real drug busts. But instead it was some elaborate the game scenario.

[01:25:28] I don't think because you can like obviously they'll train you in weapons. Right. But I don't think you're allowed to just go on a drug bust. I feel like those are like you know there's some real situations. Yeah. Then it's gonna be like yeah

[01:25:42] come watch how it's done. Has anyone made that movie? What movie? The movie where it's like oh an actor is training to play a cop in a movie so he goes on patrol with someone and gets caught in a bigger crime. Oh that's a fuck.

[01:25:55] That's like right like sort of a man who neutralizes. That's a great conflict. Right. That's a good idea. That would be a griffin human vehicle if I had a career and if comedies were still being made. Oh. Yeah but up but up. Me on me vice. Yes.

[01:26:12] So what happens when you need to pretend to be high level drug transporters who do work for major cartels? Gotta go deep. Gotta take it to the limit one last time. Exactly. You gotta go see Eddie Marseille. That's right. I think this is the first time

[01:26:28] I saw Eddie Marseille in a movie. So you hadn't seen like the Michael E. movies that you know he's getting plucked out of. I don't think so because I remember I mean I remember when he started showing up a lot. He did have his moment.

[01:26:40] In Hollywood films after this being like oh that's that Miami Vice guy who's got the weirdest face I've ever seen. Incredible face. And what a fucking accent choice in this movie. This movie insane. Because this guy shows up. It's the same thing as everyone having weird names.

[01:26:55] It's like Michael Man's like your Southern. Right. What he is. That's the thing. This guy shows up and immediately go well he's British right before he speaks a word. You're like this is the man. He's like Uncle Sam. Yes. But for Britain you know what

[01:27:10] I mean like you could just put him on a poster and everyone was like oh yes he represents the country of Britain. He looks like the Shuman who hangs out with like Mr. Toad. Right in Toad Hall. Like he could be part of the Wind and the Willows

[01:27:24] landscape as like oh it's Badger, Mr. Toad and a four inch tall Eddie Marson. And then he shows up and he's like I do swear that I'm. He's like oh god but that whole scene is so good because for one you have this sort of like

[01:27:41] everyone is artfully like blocked and arranged in his like completely empty apartment for peak intimidation for peak intimidation weasel yeah he was like this like Kentucky I don't want to deal with this yeah baby that's what I love that he got that on my man halfway through the

[01:27:56] conversation Crockett just looks out the window at the ocean for what feels like an hour an hour it's rules which is like guess him just sort of thinking about go fast boats or death yeah I don't know those sorts of things right comferal plays that phenomenally

[01:28:11] but then meanwhile you also have where he's like what did I do to deserve this and they're like you live a life of crime right that's which I just love a beautiful yeah like you get to live in this fabulous house for because

[01:28:25] you were criminal what are you talking about traffic and criminal activity do deserve this so he hooks them up with Jose Yerro and they go you know they create the fake profiles you've got the incredible shower scene that is literally scored with like porn fucking porn hub track

[01:28:44] we'd set what it sounds like yeah it sounds like that moment where it's like when the porn kicks off you know there's been two seconds of dialogue and it's like well let's get you out of those overalls well for you this is porn right and then

[01:28:57] for me this movie is porn yeah but for me the porn music is like that kind of music it's in my life in my voice music we talk about this in our black cat episode coming up but I in my memory invented a scene for

[01:29:15] Viola Davis that does not exist sure I remembered and I think I talked about you talk about it yeah I remember remembered in this movie a completely different ending right which we will get to yeah but you imagine an ending that spoke to

[01:29:30] the fact that Jamie Foxx wasn't in the movie I think right what I remember that the ending was that Naomi Harris died no and the movie ended with him in the shower by himself as that same music track plays oh sure like you saw Colin Farrell saying

[01:29:45] goodbye to Gong Lee on the boat porn music no no the music that is in the end would be pretty good though if he was like it's a Mogwai song right yeah I remember the Mogwai song playing over look at the juxtaposition

[01:30:00] now it's Jamie Foxx alone in the shower and she's dead which in fact slowly he jerks it thing happened she's is louises you are interested again with the finger got ourselves a little horn dog talk about Saucy David over here I'm advice dirty David 29 going

[01:30:19] dirty day room room it's been pretty good fire out of my ass it's been blue fun go fast boat drinking mojitos someone's getting ready for his someone on the reddit said mojitos were bad well I call the police of course you swatted them

[01:30:37] don't swap people this is so weird you know that's what I know let's not talk about swatting just watching the confere on movie swat that's what it is ok okay here's my new version of swatic you find someone online whose opinions you disagree with you hack their accounts

[01:31:02] you find out their personal information address and then you call and send them an edible arrangement saying hey part of the thing I love about humanities that we all have our different viewpoints great I may not agree with you so let's instead of swatting

[01:31:19] let's start sending people flowers edible flowers I don't really know I cut it out or keep it in your choice okay maybe my name is I can't remember the shower scene love that shower scene yeah and then the subsequent sex scene where he pretends to come

[01:31:35] fast and then keeps going I did not even pick up on come on it's so funny I have seen this movie one million yeah clearly so we get the idea tubs happy life happy life happy life have you had sort of like a work life

[01:31:50] balance obviously he's dating one of his co-workers so that helps but like tubs is kind of like sorted and I believe this is similar to the vibe of the TV show where's record I mean Crockett is like a player yeah and like unpredictable looks like he

[01:32:05] does coke you got that behind for me yeah he does the drug cocaine that's picking that up distinct yeah was it the linen shirts I think is when he dusted cocaine off the shirt was it the one metric ton of hair on his head

[01:32:22] yes look back like it looks like if you put your hand into his hair like you have to call the fire department to get like the jaws of life because they'd be like he hasn't washed this in years like like to open it up it is a thing

[01:32:35] I like that like Don Johnson in Miami Vice the TV show looks like how people he looks like okay well no what I was gonna say is Don Johnson looks like what people imagine they look like when they're on that's absolutely right

[01:32:46] we're like so cool girl looks like what someone looks like when you're like fuck how much cocaine is that guy on like when you see a guy out if gone for a was just sweetheart who had figured his life out yeah I mean it's

[01:32:59] like it's almost like Michael man five years ago called him and been like yeah I'm thinking you casting you in Miami Vice like five years from now so do so much cocaine to get ready for that I don't need you to do three months I need five years

[01:33:13] five years they Britney Spears for a little bit have sex with anyone who asks yeah I'm pretty hot a lot of people might ask that's fine yeah I don't know anything about any of his exploits and we don't have to get into it you have

[01:33:26] you ever heard of a woman from who was famous from the years 2000 or 2006 Con Farrell's had sex and like a broke their heart yeah because the other thing is even when he was a wild man he did have this kind of reputation is like that guy's a man

[01:33:41] that guy's fun he's such a romantic soul of a poet got the accent he's obviously talented you know wish he'd slow down maybe I said to I mean but it would just be like a never-ending chain fucking incredible it'd be like an ever-ending train of us weekly being

[01:33:58] like all of Rosario Dawson's friends warned her not to fall for Colin Farrell now six months after the production of Alexander she's a mess right because everyone was just like the reputation preceded him thanks very much thanks very much you know that's

[01:34:13] what you'd be like yeah you know thank you thank you thanks very much thank you thank you very much for the sex what was the thing I was going to say oh the peak of Colin Farrell is him making his own sex tape during

[01:34:29] production of where he looks like bulls eye it's wild stuff he's bald AF yeah why don't stuff there and it got put out sure it was it was released wide yeah right 2600 screen he was so popular pretty good per-screen average focus bought it

[01:34:49] he's got a pretty good per-screen average you know I'm talking about that was the other big thing was he that was another big Colin Farrell thing when there was like everyone was like too much of this guy get it totally and they were like okay okay

[01:35:03] but there is a sex home at the end of the world a movie I think he's very very good in that movie not an amazing movie but like an interesting an interesting way that he's went nowhere right he had a full

[01:35:16] frontal nude scene in the movie and they took it out because quote-unquote it was too distracting yeah people couldn't get over is that was what they said in the movie was that it was like an innocuous nude scene but that people were not focused on the next

[01:35:32] 30 minutes of the I always thought that was like in building that was some right the not even from him just people trying to like the producers trying to gin up some interest in a home at the end of the world which I think made

[01:35:43] four cents yes you know but you know yeah Colin Farrell probably oh I think he's like that's fine thanks very much dear Lord thank you for the pain you just told me with whoa thanks very much what Ben found the sex day

[01:36:00] yeah yeah he looks like a bullseye from daredevil my god yeah this is you know yeah that's this is embarrassing do you have a sex tape out there Ben no good Jesus he just gave me a look rose like yeah this is gonna be a patron

[01:36:16] let's watch up in sex tape I just think it's funny that his sex tape is from the least aesthetically pleasing look he ever had for a movie 100% including horrible possible I was about to say not horrible bosses including horrible bosses including the

[01:36:32] lobster he's never looked worse I want a movie where Colin Farrell and what's Russell Crow yeah where they just are drunk and they just like Collins very sober now he's so it'll be a movie the two of them in LA just

[01:36:53] like being drunk going out on the town I'll tell you what I want that would be fun I want Russell I want Russell Crow start like twitch streaming drunk like I want Russell Crow do like four hours of fortnight of map talk yeah

[01:37:08] with a bottle of Jameson sure let's do it yeah kegafosters yeah doing speed rounds of Donkey Kong sounds good he should play Donkey Kong you should put on some weight it was worth it to play Donkey Kong no Russell Crow he be a great Donkey Kong talking about

[01:37:29] I can't get over this I see a Russell Crow as a guy friends and talks for Diddy Kong Florence Pugh is number one choice for Trixie Kong but we'll see we'll see if it happened she's in demand like a Donkey Kong country movie 100% live

[01:37:47] action not mocap no no no no mocap allowed do you think it's percent character no just care just just presence pure fucking presence it's like when fucking Bradley Cooper played the elephant man convey it exactly reference do you think it is so

[01:38:14] wild I love Bradley Cooper but then he did an onstage elephant man where he was just like screwing his shirt list he was like shirtless all play right yeah do you think is Russell Crow shirt list is it just like him in his like his

[01:38:28] natural no clothes no clothes but the tie right it's just a good little crow with a beard and a red okay that's what it is that's what it is no make up for quiet good put it on the slate on the slate Russell Crow is Donkey Kong

[01:38:50] country boy boy his grumpy con Kirk Douglas Michael Douglas come on Kirk's not up to it anymore Michelle Fipers wrinkly Kong I don't know just keep aiming Kongs Griffin Newman's and talks for baby Kong no I feel well no who's the clown one is that lanky Kong and

[01:39:16] that's not right I don't really have the arms for him baby Kong I can maybe do you need to put on some pouncy big boy I got a pounce I guess baby Kong would be like yeah you need like sort of like a

[01:39:27] big dummy like the guy from itania oh going to be richly dual a poll altar house there how's her yeah anyway the phone scope may be vice so they go undercover after having a nice shower huh to meet Jose hero take us to the

[01:39:44] limit they're going to take it to the limit one more time and they go to I believe it's supposed to be where is this initial meeting happening it's somewhere in the Caribbean okay not Columbia I don't think I'm gonna be Columbia that'd be crazy though you

[01:40:01] can't go fast boat from Columbia to Cuba I love that they're called go fast boats they flew I mean classically cigarette boat was the old sort of terminology for it like a smuggler boat but yeah go fast boats the name is that literal and sounds like

[01:40:14] what a child would say to describe yeah go fast boat and they have that whole meeting in the like sort of I mean where they're walking up and there's this little wise to feel like you know everyone knows who we are 15 blocks out

[01:40:25] because everyone knows who we are 15 blocks out yeah where Jose here is like maybe we don't do the deal because I don't like you guys you know there's the whole show down Jamie Fox talking about how boats you know when they don't move resemble

[01:40:38] apartment buildings I like you I don't like the way your partner looks and he says you're here to fuck us here to fuck my partner or do business good line I don't care what you think about my shit I sentient wad of cocaine that I

[01:40:51] have sitting next to me as a friend actually year was kind of right where he's like what's the deal with Crockett yeah this isn't just a scarecrow made of cocaine bags stuffed in a linen shirt yes cocaine remnants on his eyelashes you know

[01:41:13] when I drug smuggling like it's in a bag not in a person you understand that right do you just melt this person and he becomes cocaine boat not a mule conferell should have played the mule there's a tap it from his bloodstream

[01:41:27] in order to get my supply of conferell and that's where Crockett oh god right is it in there that he says yeah it is where you're like who the fuck knows you part from Nicholas like you know who the fuck knows you and Crockett's like my mommy

[01:41:46] and daddy know me yeah it's like not crazy thing to say yeah it's all they're saying to each other is crazy things yeah like no point to like you know like just settle down and be like alright sorry being really beautiful beauty of drug deals exactly everyone

[01:42:01] it's all cocky walk shit what's really happening it's all it's all cocky the walk shit but it's also like we all sort of know offstage what what this deal is really about but they're not like okay so the cocaine although I guess they

[01:42:14] do get into the numbers more than I've seen any other movie do it where they eventually get into the like right percentages right yeah what the transportation is going to involve I forgot to mention before they meet with him they have also robbed his shipment

[01:42:28] in masks pretending to be Haitian so that speaking Creole here's a great example of a thing I did not get when they got when they said we intercepted right found you're missing you got how they got it they's robbed it

[01:42:41] they rob it you see the robot this movie you say it like it's very apparent okay maybe not very apparent but you see them rob it which is I think the idea is that creates the the idea to host a year of like maybe

[01:42:53] we need okay transportation I get this now right so watching it it was not they kind of they kind of convince him to let them give it a shot okay they do the drug deal that the transportation where they're on the planes and they sort of sync

[01:43:07] up the two planes and then each other to have one plane pretty cool anti-bain sky crime it's sky crime sky crime pain takes one plane makes it who the fuck are you I forgot my baby for you I'm just thinking of like a

[01:43:23] my mommy and daddy know me I'm a fiend for more here to all our chica take it to the limit one more time come on the planes cool yes obviously real right those are just a couple planes that they did that Jamie Foxx

[01:43:43] refused to board right I think he's in your lease there's interior shots of it might not be they must have a right or that was the one and only time he did right but you have gone Lee in that scene when when yeah she's

[01:43:56] chilling in the background and she's sort of like boy she's not really telling people who she is yet looks incredible she's controlling the dial of the room she's wearing a suit sitting in the shadows she's got big sunglasses a big old son she's the

[01:44:09] great Sue glass Sue glass she's got Sue glass on yes she is incredible did she win my Oscar that year or just nominated it's a good question make the five oh six oh six oh six you're supporting actress category gong Lee winner Miami Vice we had to weird

[01:44:36] gear oh six is a weird year in general if you look at it yeah I think Amy Adams would have been my winner like because I don't even know that what's the winner of the Oscar was that 2005 in me I'm so fine okay so six

[01:44:49] I don't know who won the Oscar like who wins best picture no six oh six is a part of it yeah right right so not overflowing with female right so mirror and wins actress Whitaker wins actor yes supporting actor in oh six is Alan Arkin supporting actress

[01:45:11] is not Rachel Vice that's the year before is that right it might be that year no it's not no because she wins she beat Amy Adams remember this I don't remember this year like this year I don't think I the things I don't remember you are

[01:45:26] happening or the things that make it a struggle for me to stay alive on a day to day Jennifer Hudson is this morning of course right my fiver gong Lee I have a green for casino Roy Emily blunt for devil wears Prada

[01:45:40] Melanie Diaz for a guy to recognize in your saints wow and Deborah Francois for long phone the Dardan movie that's the five I feel like blunt would be my winner who were the other actual nominees that year it's rough you got two Babel ladies right

[01:45:57] and I drown about us who are both very good in a movie I don't like yeah Hudson and dream girls uh-huh Kate Blanchett notes on a scandal who's sort of like a quasi lead she's good in that movie would have been my winner from

[01:46:09] that five and Abigail Breslin yeah I think Blanchett I think no so scandal she's probably my winner of that five too is is an incredible performance but yeah I think blunt probably would have been my winner overall blunt incredible I'm trying to think

[01:46:26] what my films of oh six would have been I remember oh six being a year where I did not have a lot of favorite movies my buddy fights you got the prestige that year I think that might have been my number one the depotted casino real

[01:46:42] oh children men children man was my number one procedures my number two got some good movies here Ben inside man inland empire uh-huh Talada good nights masterpiece yeah bug the lives of others uh-huh Dave Chappelle's block party good movie it's like a deluxe and watch the scanner

[01:47:02] darkly with some friends scanner darkly great movie uh-huh super trippy Superman returns cars yeah um the descent devilish Prada brick here's a through hostile here's Tokyo drift here's a through line in the movies you're citing though not a lot of good supportive female performance

[01:47:22] right it's a weird which you're giving us thumbs down to Marie Antoinette I think it never seen it never seen it it's the only couple I've never seen my favorite couple really so a while since I saw it though back to Miami fight gong Lee plays character

[01:47:38] called Isabella okay she is awesome I mean she's Cuban but Chinese she there's this sort of mode there's a scene where she shows conferell picture for mother she's a little bit of a woman uh she's bewitching uh-huh she's kind of like the number two she's above

[01:48:02] right because she is allied with the cartel leader who is our kind of Jesus Montoya right who's the guy who just like Luis Tossar who just like sits in a car but she kind of implies that she's the man at his they say when are we going to

[01:48:16] meet the man and she's like right now yeah yeah right she's she's in charge because he only sits down and he's just like when you tell me to do a thing you'll do exactly that thing right is very nice to meet you extend my wishes

[01:48:30] to your family we will never meet again which rules uh let's see the line where he says uh I don't pay for services I pay for a result yeah I mean seems like a cool guy yeah if I met him I'd be like yeah

[01:48:44] whoo go fast boats go real fast but I would just like desperately be like I have to say something this crazy psycho billionaire is talking to me guys we all know that the drug kingpin Miami Vice is crazy right and sometimes these funny thoughts come

[01:49:00] into my head I was wondering what would it sound like if David Sims met the drug campaign for Miami Vice and I think it'll go a little something like this yeah go fast boats am I right sure go fast that's why they call him that

[01:49:19] nice car we can look at each other in it nice I do love that they get out yeah Gong Lee steps into his very well lit leather interior in the seats facing the other seats and they have to be like padded down

[01:49:35] checked a bunch of times to eventually end up in the same second vehicle as her right yeah rules they're cool so after that first drug deal is when the transport is when Collins like makes the move on Gong Lee can I buy you a drink essentially

[01:49:53] yeah and she's like I know a good place for mojitos yeah I called it Cuba it's called Havana yeah and they get in the go fast they don't like me they don't like my passport I don't like my passport

[01:50:05] I have a cousin works at the garden that's passion though that's romance it's the greatest scene such a cool first date yeah yeah and like the music just goes all the way up they're just in this boat they're talking to each other I every time I just

[01:50:17] heard a joy and I go like no way they really hear his fucking thing you would be like yeah we're Cuba okay you know like that would be the conversation we can we say this without citing any people okay we heard a thing recently okay

[01:50:35] that that Michael man's hearing is touch and go sure and that depending on which day he's in at the mix sure he might adjust the volume dramatically upwards or downwards based on how his hearing is doing that day which leads to what I have experienced watching Michael

[01:50:53] man movies recently a need to keep the remote in your hand at all times to adjust on a scene by scene basis it's men mumbling and then all of a Sunday it's the loudest gun record right yeah okay that's all I was saying yeah no

[01:51:11] that's great because you were saying the music all the way up and I fucking love it though they drive to Cuba just hypnotic yeah just slow yeah they go to Cuba there's the great scene where they're drinking mojitos which he's a fiend for and you know the band

[01:51:29] is playing and you're just immediately like why the fuck have I not yet gone to Cuba like what you know like that's a Michael man movie too we're like I gotta go here yeah you know yeah LA gotta be the last of the movie

[01:51:43] it's beautifully shot it's like it changes because like you know you're so sort of like set in with like the neon lighting of like what he's shooting in Miami and it's just so bright and light and the cars I mean like cause man by

[01:51:59] a cv show it's like oh look at all these colors all the cool lighting whatever so much of the Miami stuff in the movie is like a sickly yellow like he's really owning digital being able to capture how gross fluorescent

[01:52:13] lighting is that scene where they're in the warehouse with the fluorescent lighting and they kick open the doors and then you see just the pier and it makes you realize how creepy and bad most lighting makes people look you know and the John

[01:52:29] Hawks scene on the side of the road it's like the street lamps are just yellow like you're right yeah yes that scene so frightening yeah but yeah Cuba is like warmer and I mean all the Colin Gong Lee scenes are the scenes that's my favorite

[01:52:45] shit in the movie all their romance stuff just the whole weird like hermetic like they're living this like you for some reason just believe that they would do this you know what I mean because it's like a classic obviously like you're into deep undercover cop movie

[01:53:01] plot is like and then he falls for criminal and like then what are they gonna do right but like in this you're like not only do I believe that they have sex I can't believe they haven't been having sex their entire lives

[01:53:11] T14 said like wow this part of the movie is going on for a while like she was surprised at what how would usually be five minutes exactly where they just like you get it right there in love now okay interrupted by other scenes was just

[01:53:23] like yes that's kind of the movie I was like this is the emotional spot like get ready because this is the rest of the movie is playing off of this pretty much yeah whatever what else even has this is the main

[01:53:33] thing to track in this move yeah right because at this point tubs drops off the radar right and Jamie Foxx Jamie Foxx is like it was 15 million dollars great I'm not coming back right no I don't know I mean like what is tubs

[01:53:45] tubs just becomes like a guy who's a professional yeah he's just and he'll check in with with Crockett yeah calling Ricardo just tubs this first yeah he'll check in with Crockett and be like you okay like there's the he sends you making moves on her

[01:54:01] and he goes no we're making moves on each other he has the but there's the as in there is undercover and then there is which way is up yeah and Crockett's like you think I'm in so deep I forgot and everyone in the audience

[01:54:13] is like yes yeah that's your vibe but that's also I think that's the other thing Michael Manza interested in trying to come back to my advice it's just like this stuff isn't glamorous sure people become like ciphers like they don't know who they are anymore because they

[01:54:29] spend so much time working on making their own identity so malleable even more so than actors because you don't have the breaks of calling cut like you're living in these awful worlds and training yourself to not react proportionately to them yeah and not into right and

[01:54:49] to not react to horrible things right horrible ideas right like there's this sufferable people right there's this area in which like being an actor involves a kind of like deliberate sort of sociopathy right and being an undercover cop I imagine is just that times a billion

[01:55:09] because you have to like watch people get murdered in front of you and go like yeah cool I love that yeah I'm into it yeah I'm a great criminal big fan great murder you know so these guys are just like like that's why it works so much that

[01:55:23] Colin Farrell is at like the end of his rope as a human being while making this movie is because it's just like this guy is just like he has no idea who the fuck he is anymore and both of them are professionals

[01:55:33] and both of them know they shouldn't be getting together but it's also like they've trained themselves to not care so much it's also just like I mean this is another rant about Hollywood now but like if you make this movie now it has to

[01:55:45] be funny right there has to be the sort of knowing stuff yeah would have to be all this kind of like goofy material right this movie doesn't get made now in any way it doesn't any but like let's say it does sure because like

[01:55:57] 21 jump greek street got made right like you know that kind of thing with a like well of course my advice people know Miami Vice but right you're right no it would be a loose and goofy yeah and you can do an action movie and you can do

[01:56:09] cop stuff but it better not be like you know too alienated because even this coming two years after like Starsky and Hutt was like a pretty stark comparison exactly yes and when's that that's like oh four oh four right yeah um and that's the other

[01:56:27] right and this is Michael man being like no it would be really hard to be an undercover cop let's do that right this is about lost people in a horrible world a brutal uncaring world and that's his pitch to the studio in 2019 the studio is

[01:56:43] like yeah okay we were thinking more like Hemsworth but he's funny I guess Hemsworth is in a man movie though yeah like that's what you know Hemsworth would play him tomorrow if you play it right right yeah 100% it would be Hemsworth and

[01:57:01] I'm trying to think who would play tubs today who's like sort of who is who is Jamie Foxx in 2019 yeah that is the question I don't know who's the journey because like they've been trying with like Jesse T usher like putting him in things like

[01:57:15] Shaft and Independence Day yeah where they're like I mean is it Michael B Jordan but I don't think that's the right vibe it's not quite the right vibe I'm like is it Trevante Rhodes Chadwick Boseman or Trevante Rhodes would be good well he's good in everything I think

[01:57:27] creatively he would be my choice I think the studio would probably want to be Chadwick and Hemsworth right right and then the director is I don't know someone who can do funny yeah see I don't think Michael B is the right choice because Michael B's

[01:57:41] whole great thing is his anger and these guys have to be so fundamentally they're so cool right smooth you don't want a neuter Michael B Jordan and even Colin Farrell like yeah like 99% of people I mean honestly Don Johnson

[01:57:55] plays this more as a guy who's got a lot of rage Carl that's not Colin's take at all intentionally or not he's playing it as a guy right who's just lost at sea this guy's just like he's like scooped everything out from inside of himself

[01:58:09] you know he's like he's like the mask of like a cantaloupe that you put cottage cheese in and the cottage cheese is crying and then along comes a great piece of prosciutto played by Gong Lee and it matches so perfectly

[01:58:27] with the melon you know yes it's such a great but yeah yeah cottage cheese is crying because she's we need a t-shirt that's like a melon a cantaloupe we got it she's in it but then like on Farrell's this is on the canola

[01:58:43] and there's like Colin Farrell baby vice hair coming out of the canola I think you want like it's like a bird's eye view and the cantaloupe roughly makes out like Mufasa's face in the clouds Colin Farrell with a mustache you know he's got a stash Ben

[01:58:59] Miami Vice Benjamin do you like it I liked it a lot had you seen it before mm-hmm and been years was great I'm pulling up my notes okay you got some notes yeah so one thing I want to say I don't like deals

[01:59:15] mm-hmm there's a lot of deals happening on phones well and also Ben come on this is like the end of flip phones is this movie there are so many scenes involved like there's one where they're like taking video on like a fucking Nokia you know

[01:59:31] like yeah great that'll be admissible in court is that 2P where she's like showing a sex tape on like a flip phone it's like webzones or something and I'm like can you imagine how much that data bill is going to be in a pre-wifi enabled smartphone era

[01:59:49] if you're watching a live streamed sex show on your fucking flip phone right first of all it's gonna buffer like right what if this movie ended with everyone sitting down with Fajima and being like okay so here's the bill uh yeah you will we need about

[02:00:07] 40 to 50 million dollars that we bought all this cocaine we bought a bunch of go fast boats like gas those things go through let me tell you uh the most expensive fucking uh it seems like we ruined an entire shipping port in Miami with a gun so we're gonna

[02:00:23] have to figure that out right we blew up a trailer they're like the Michael man of vice squads exactly I'm just like they are city policemen you know and you just see them like flying planes like it's no big deal when did it fucking learn to fly

[02:00:37] a plane they make like 63 thousand dollars a year like they're in a union they're like in the detectives union right they they make it they make 62 thousand dollars a year with a per diem of one million dollars per day like their petty cash for their operations I

[02:00:55] mean there is a scene early on where like he says you're gonna be in OCD etf like which is like the federal agency that is the federal agency that's like here's where you will give you some cocaine but still I mean they are just city cops

[02:01:11] take it to the limit they that's true and they smooth this out they do it that's how we do it like Santana route Marshall that's true yes it is like I say no to deals okay I'm tired of this culture you know it's

[02:01:25] Trumpian almost deals oh I got a here's the deal so if okay let's just you know you're no like if the banker call let's talk it out we don't need deals well wait a second what you're describing is a deal let's get out and set terms very much

[02:01:39] a deal I just don't like how everyone's like oh the deal maker like that whole mentality is so annoying to me I understand what you're saying because it's that thing where Trump's like I'm totally a deal maker I got this great deal here

[02:01:51] it is and it's like Kim Jong-un has to do nothing like you know like it's all it's all inflated I just can't get over it Donald Trump is the president are we David are we a hundred percent you have the computer in front of you can you check

[02:02:07] this are we a hundred percent sure it's not a different guy with the same name let's see so I googled it just feels like it's gotta be a different guy at the same name president of the United States of America incumbent Donald Trump since January 20th

[02:02:19] 2017 what is Wikipedia check the hyperlink it can't be the born 1946 in Jamaica Queens it is sort of the same age and location does look like a way I'll just control after apprentice yes the apprentice 16 references nuts he's also in charge of the Trump

[02:02:39] organization which is a real estate business yes so I mean yeah I think it's the same guy I say no deal yeah how we mendel could he be president much better okay we're gonna cut all that out I mean here's a promise to how I made L

[02:03:01] I'm not gonna make it cleanliness joke I feel like that's the joke everyone makes yeah yeah I was gonna try to work fist bumping in with grabbing things I like it better when you just talk about it around it here was the idea around

[02:03:15] the joke how I'm and L has OCD he doesn't like shaking people's hands that would guarantee that we have a president who doesn't grow people right I couldn't figure out how to construct it but now all of you have the pieces and I get to walk away

[02:03:29] cut this up and put the jokes together yourself at home no no you have to record yourself making the joke okay yeah and then send that to Griffin but also if shampoo wants to cut this up and make it into a drop that'll be greatly appreciated what happened

[02:03:45] shampoo did make a drop made a drop for me I got the drop we will use the drop on the drop calls for can we is it a news drop was that what it was I think it's it's like mail bag

[02:03:57] mail bag it's a mail bag drop do you want to play it now no no we'll we'll do it as you said when the moment calls for it like right now

[02:04:07] Mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail. So… I'd like a job. I love that job. Thank you, shampooedler for the job.

[02:04:26] Basically, what happens in this movie is that Jose- It's just document. Jose Yerim. No, that's a picture of Russell Crowley. I'm sorry. Jose Yerim played by John Ortiz. Starts watching… Put it away. Put it away. We gotta finish this. Is this a picture of Cranky Kong?

[02:04:48] Put it away! All right. We already did a 10 minute riff on that. Swear to God. Jose Yerim starts watching Miami Vice, essentially. The TV show. No, the movie because he's like starts watching Colin and Gong. He's like, these two are fucking burning up the screen.

[02:05:07] And he has tears in his eyes. They're so into each other. Exactly. Tears in his eyes. Because there's that scene where Gong Lee tells her boss, Suito Scar, like, you know, where she is like, I slept with him and I think he's a professional. Yeah.

[02:05:19] And he's like, that's my girl. So it's like, he's not jealous that she had sex with the guy. But he is jealous when he realizes that they're dancing is so fucking on fuego and their mojito ordering is so fucking sexy.

[02:05:33] And she's like shown him nice pictures of her family. What's the line they have when they're at like the bar the following morning and they're talking about their future in their past about like making sure this thing doesn't go too far? You know what I'm talking about?

[02:05:49] I do. I mean, there's this sort of like... They word it in some cool Michael Manway. Is this going to affect our future together, our business? I mean, there's here's one exchange that I like. Yeah.

[02:05:59] Where she's like, once I had a fortune that reads, leave now time is short. Life is short. Time is luck. And they're talking about like what happens when it all goes down. Okay. And Crockett has the probability is like gravity. You cannot negotiate with gravity. Yeah.

[02:06:15] One day you should just cash out and she's like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, as far and fast as you can. She's like, would you find me? He's like, yes, I would. Yeah. And I'm like... David at the erection finger again. He's holding that up.

[02:06:33] But eventually, Yerro convinces Jesus that Isabella's turned on him. These guys are no good. They have the Aryan brotherhood, kidnap Naomi Harris. They have Yerro kidnap Isabella. But the one thing there's also... I forgot to mention a zillion years ago.

[02:06:55] It's just a scene where they kind of buy their loyalty by saying like, look, we recovered your stolen drugs. We found the right... Which is also I feel like playing it a little close, but the idea is like to get in quickly. A little close to the vest?

[02:07:05] Yeah. And so you have this final showdown that's essentially like, but we still have their drugs so we can maybe swap it for Isabella. Right? Yeah. And I mean Naomi Harris, but they just go get Naomi Harris. But then... Well, right. Then the trailer blows up.

[02:07:27] Yerro blows up the trailer and almost kills him. But there's the cool scene where Elizabeth Rodriguez is like, I'm going to shoot you in your medulla. Oh, that's great. It's fucking great. Shoot a couple Nazis. Shoot me, I blow her up. He's got the detonator.

[02:07:39] And she's like, I shoot you, you die in half a second. You don't have time to move your finger. And he's like, well... Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. Right? He literally just... Tell me sport, you believe that? He goes like, hey fuck you!

[02:07:51] And then she just shoots him in the neck. He gets one syllable out. Truly. He goes like, ah! Yeah. It's immediate. Because that whole sequence is great. But that is the sort of secondary sequence. The primary sequence is the shootout. I like that they don't kill Jesus.

[02:08:10] This isn't like a story where they fucking nail the cartel. No. They get Yerro, they shoot him. It's awesome. And fucking Colin has his badge out to Cong Lee C. Cong Lee sees him and just like, what are you?

[02:08:25] I like that it's just the reflection of the glimmer. The glimmer of the light, the shine from the badge. But you know, Ricardo tubs, you know, shoots Yerro with a fucking grenade launcher so he blows a giant hole in his body. Yes.

[02:08:40] You know, Crockett gets the Aryan Brotherhood guy under the car. I mean, I think the shootout is cool. I do too. The director's cut puts music over it which sucks. What song is it? In the air tonight played by nonpoint.

[02:08:53] Oh, which then they play in the end credits, right? In this, yes. Right. Okay. The credits plays a Moby song in the director's cut. Interesting. I kind of... it's bad with the... in the air tonight. In my head I'm putting it together and it seems cool. Okay.

[02:09:13] Well some people like it. I'm not a fan. I think the movie is great. I just don't think it needs to be messed with. Blu-ray and they only ever released the director's cut, right? I think that's... And then on digital it's only theatrical.

[02:09:25] I think there's a region free... On digital I think you can get both. But I know that was the thing where you warned me like don't buy the Blu-ray because it's the bad version. I'm pretty sure that's right. You can... yeah, I guess so.

[02:09:39] I feel like the DVD they had both cuts and for Blu-ray it's only... Yeah, it looks like it's only the director's version. Unrated director's edition. Unrated and out of control. I remember when things were... Unrated. Yeah.

[02:09:53] And remember when like the DVD covers for unrated movies were Photoshopped to have like the characters reacting to how unrated it was? Yes, I do. Like the cast of Anchorman or whatever, the Goods. Yeah. The cast of the Goods. We talked about the Naughty Professor to the clumps.

[02:10:15] Written records way? Yes, where the DVD cover is like granny clump putting caution tape around the rest of the family and the caution tapes as like unrated. Yeah. Yeah, anyway. Pretty good. The cover of Miami Vice is like that too. Yeah.

[02:10:31] Barry Shabaka Henley is putting caution tape around everybody. Yeah. And Colin Farrell was like wide eyed holding like a shush finger up to his mouth. Barry Shabaka Henley gets some good shit in the last half hour.

[02:10:41] Yeah, I mean it's fun to watch Barry Shabaka Henley in an action scene. He's just like hitting a... Yeah, he's got like a bulletproof vest and like a semi-automatic rifle. Yes, he does.

[02:10:50] And like he's in the helicopter in that one part where they're like trying to triangulate everything. Yeah. And then you see him like trying to find the shooters with the like the infrared camera. It's also like that's what these guys actually look like. 100%. In real life.

[02:11:04] And they like go out and they're in the shit, you know? Right, right. I'm sorry, it was Sherman has wrapped up the rest of his family and uncensored caution tape. Oh boy. But he looks shocked like he's just done something really naughty. He's like...

[02:11:22] Don Johnson was the person who suggested Colin Farrell for the movie. Interesting. Yeah. Based off of had they worked together or he just was a fan of his work? I highly doubt it. We should also mention there was a famous hurricane that hit Miami during filming, which delayed

[02:11:39] filming quite a lot. That helped make it more expensive. That man talked to Edward James Olmos to make, you know, for to reply to prize his role, but he said no, which is too bad because yeah, like at this point we're talking like

[02:11:52] battle circle, act like ever James Olmos is cool again. Yes. And like totally could just like put him right in here. Yeah. No one is better at just like grumbling in a gravelly voice than him.

[02:12:01] During one squall associate with Tropical Storm Dennis, Farrell and Fox drove along the street in a Ferrari with a convertible top down as they made their way along the block. The windows were blown out of a tall building and glass rained down damaging the car and

[02:12:13] just missing the stars. The wind was blowing so hard we could hardly get our gear back from the truck. A crew member says followed by you bet it was dangerous as man. But that's like the whole sequence when they're on the roof with the Fujima and

[02:12:26] like the lightning is going off around them. Right. And it's like that thing. You know, the quote you're like where you can see the storm. Yeah. Like miles away. Right. It's cool. Yeah. Great. Here's another thing you want to know, Griff. Yeah.

[02:12:42] Naomi Harris was make shooting this back to back with Pirates of the Caribbean. Of course she was because it's too much. Right. So she had to do this on weekdays and Pirates on weekends. Crazy. Jesus. We stand a legend. We do stand a legend.

[02:12:55] Even though I feel like people hate that hated that at the time. I remember anyone who I thought had an interesting brain was like, who is that actor and what is that performance she's giving? I agree with that. Because I was very bored with those movies.

[02:13:09] That movie has so many monologues. Yeah. Yeah. Go on, sir. No, I just remember being like she's doing something really weird here because like the sequels you come in and like depth starting to get stale and she it feels like she's

[02:13:21] the one doing kind of the radical thing. She's doing some weird. Right. Yeah. The initial test screening length of the movie was 150 minutes and it got cut down. Sure. I could see that. And he just uses the last cuts like he doesn't try to.

[02:13:37] Well, he did his director's cut. Yeah. And I guess that comes out like immediately afterwards. Pretty quickly. Yeah. I just remember the hype about that. But yeah, I mean he moves on. I don't know. I mean he gets to make public enemies.

[02:13:50] So even though this movie was a bomb, it didn't like, you know, wasn't it was so big a bouncer that he didn't get to make another extremely expensive movie. Obviously movie star still mattered.

[02:14:01] He pulls the thing of getting a big movie star right if you could get three movie stars in your movie of that scale, you got a green light. You got a green light baby and you know as long as you do it smooth. I don't know.

[02:14:13] Do you have any more things you want to say about this shoot out? I was going to say well yeah, I mean I remember I have this false memory of the movie ending with Emma Harris dying and Jamie Foxx in the shower by himself.

[02:14:21] But in fact the ending is a glimmer of hope that she wakes up again. Yes, as the music is building after everything is sorted out. Yeah. A Crockett takes Gong Lee to the stash house and then like she has to send her off.

[02:14:36] But she's going to yeah, because he loves her. He loves her. As do I. They love each other. It's another classic Michael Mann like what do you do now? It's the exact Michael Mann. Right. It's exactly where he's going to see Trudy at the hospital. Yeah.

[02:14:52] We know that she's like we see there's that shot of her hand. Yeah. Like she's probably going to be okay. She starts fluttering and then they come in and she opens her eyes. Tubbs is there but the last shot is him just walking into the hospital. Feral walking.

[02:15:04] Yes, and it just cuts to black and then Miami Vice and like blue. Right. And the actual typeface on the credits is so small. Yes, it's tiny. And the blue is so dark that it's almost indiscriminate from the black. Yeah, rules. It's crazy.

[02:15:20] That's when I was just in my seat in the theater being like oh, same here. But then I went on to watch the movie one billion times. You were just like yeah, that was a weird thing that happened to me. I like think about it.

[02:15:32] I would think about it sometimes but I wasn't compelled to rewatch it. David's doing it like a finger I guess. God. You need a vacation. I do. Badly. Going to the ocean baby. Box office. All right, here we go. July 28th, 2006.

[02:15:51] I'm in college but I saw this in London with Joey Sims. Like a spring break? Yeah, on a spring break in July and which they done it in July. That's what they said at my previous spring break. So they took him up on it.

[02:16:07] Ben just leaned over and he's got sunglasses on. I just, you know, it was the summer. Where did you see it? I saw it, I believe at Union Square with my great old friend, Michaela Gross who just had a birthday. Oh cool.

[02:16:19] Yeah, I think we saw it at Union Square. We were like, we both want to see that. Like we're long friends but once a year it'd be like, oh that's a movie that the two of us want to see that other people don't seem excited about.

[02:16:31] And we were really amped up about like, we're going to prove them wrong. We're going to see it and it's going to rule. And then both of us are kind of like, I don't really know what to make of that thing. Didn't hate it but we're like,

[02:16:39] that's a very confusing movie. Well, it opened number one. But to an underwhelming $25 million. Yeah. And it grosses a total of 63. Yeah, not great. No. I actually, I remembered it multiplying even worse. I remembered it being like 25 and 50. I mean, but 63 isn't much better.

[02:16:57] No, it's not much better. It's okay. Yeah. Lukewarm debut. The number two movie is in its fourth week and had been dominating for three weeks. One of the biggest hits of the summer may be biggest hit of the year. Is it Dead Men's Chest?

[02:17:13] It's Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Men's Chest, which made $423 million total. Huge movie. It broke the all time opening weekend record. Yeah. And I just remember, I was in college and that was like, that came out when I was still in class.

[02:17:26] And I just remember we're all like, that's what cannot wait to fucking see this movie. And then we saw it and it was kind of that matrix reloaded thing where we were like, that was bad I think. But Johnny Depp was in there. It was Captain Jack Sparrow.

[02:17:41] I thought we liked this. You know, we couldn't just be like, we didn't like that. We were just confused. I remember just being so bored by it. And I was not a big fan of the first movie, but I was excited for the second movie,

[02:17:54] especially with all the fucking sea creature pirates. I was like all in on all that design stuff. And I remember Ted Elliott and Tara Russ over at this point, and they said when the first one was such a success, we had to sit back and ask ourselves,

[02:18:11] okay, so if we're making a trilogy now, is this Indiana Jones or is it Star Wars? Okay. Are we going to make two more films and act like it was always meant to be a trilogy? Right. And build a larger mythology and an epic three-part narrative?

[02:18:25] Just do more adventures. And I always felt like they picked the wrong avenue that I wanted to see another crazy adventure. And they were like, no, no, no, mythos. The mythos. So much mythos. Yeah. We got to meet Jack's dad. We got to see the pirate council. Yeah.

[02:18:39] All this shit. Todd Hanson of The Onion always used to contend that that's what he liked about those movies was that they put so much work into the mythos. It's what's interesting about him, no question. That he's like, someone's really, like, really cares about it.

[02:18:50] You can read interviews with Roso and Rason, whatever those names, Elliott and Rose. Yeah. Where they talk about how into it they all were. But whatever, that was number two. I feel like those movies get bogged down by the mythos. That's number two.

[02:19:02] I do too, but we should rewatch them and find out because it's been years since I see it. But that was the number one movie of 2006? Yeah. 423. Tell me the second biggest movie of that year. Second biggest movie of 06 was The Ninth Museum. Which made 250? Exactly that.

[02:19:20] Thank you. That's weird. That's weird. But that's great. Like, that's how much bigger a deal this was. That was, I mean, this was a time where nothing made over 200 change. It's a time when... You never got to the 300s, the 400s.

[02:19:34] It's also a time when every variety article was like, is cinema dead? Like ticket sales down? Right. Like the whole... It's the pre-marvel era when studios are scrambling to figure out... But you would have one movie per year would get into the 400s.

[02:19:47] Your Shrek 2, your Passion of the Christ, your Spider-Man, your Dead Man's Chest, whatever, right? Yeah. And nothing had made 500 million and nothing had made 600 million other than Titanic. Right. Like those were the only... That was the only movie that had crossed those two benches. Right.

[02:20:05] And now it's like Spider-Man buys a candy bar and they're like, yeah, 2 billion worldwide. Spider-Man took a piss in this movie. That movie's fun, though. No, it's great. I think that movie's a lot of fun. You know why? Spider-Man buys a candy bar. Yeah, that one's good.

[02:20:17] Not Spider-Man Far From Home. Far From Home. Yeah, it's fine. You know what's fun? What? Tom Holland and Zendaya. Yeah. Zendaya. Zendaya is Mechie. It's Mechie. Yeah. That'd be cute. They're so cute together. She is adorable. I think she's a real talent. Yeah.

[02:20:33] And they're for real too, right? That's the question. I did a lot of Googling. Yeah, okay. Seems like they're for real. Yeah. Well, Heaven's For Real if you believe Colton Burpo. I don't know what to tell you. Number three at the box office. Yeah. It's a new release.

[02:20:48] Uh-huh. It's a teen comedy. John Tucker Must Die. Now this is a film about how a character named John Tucker. He must die. Must die because he's a jerk. He's dating three women at the same time. Within the same high school, that's tough. It's a shanty. Keep going.

[02:21:11] It's who are the other two? I think Britney Snow. Britney Snow. Sophia Bush, is that right? That was gonna be my guess, Sophia Bush. And it's the kid who was the hunk of meat in Jesper Kauschweit. Jesse McHale. Who is gonna be the next great movie star.

[02:21:26] Yeah, he was gonna be the next great something. Right. And the poster was just a woman's butt in underwear. John Tucker must die. And she has it as like an above the ass tattoo is the title. Yeah. A quote unquote, tramp stamp.

[02:21:45] The kids are calling it tramp stamping. Here we go. Here's a horrible poster. Jesus Christ. Oh and then there's also, there's Ariel, yeah Ariel Kebbell. Is she one of the three? I think she's the new girlfriend. I don't fucking know. Okay. Number four. Uh-huh. You okay, Ben?

[02:22:03] Yeah, no good. 10 more minutes? Guys, rock and roll. Okay. Number four. What length are we at right now? Uh-two, 27. Oh boy, plus ads. Oh Jesus. Oh, I'm gonna be fine. Okay. Let's think about Michael Mann. Yeah? Okay go on. Oh Jesus. Go on. Look at him complaining.

[02:22:23] Go on. Uh, it's an animated film. Animated film. You're so hot right now that I'm just like, I don't know. I'm gonna give you no clues. Uh, Ampoli doesn't come out until... Ampoli is number five, so congratulations on that. Thank you.

[02:22:35] Because I was wondering how the fuck I was gonna set that one up. Yeah. Ampoli? What is this? What is that about? The battle for the lawn is on apparently. According to the poster. It's a kid who bullies ants in a real ironic place.

[02:22:46] He gets shrunk down to the size of an ant. Oh Jesus, this looks like... Julia Roberts, Paul Giamatti, Nicholas Cage. This looks like a cheese... You're forgetting one. Shit. Who's the other big person? Neryl Streep. Right. What the fuck did she play? Produced by Tom Hanks. Okay.

[02:23:05] Is this one of those things where like his kid had an idea and he like called Katzenberg? It's based on children's book that has a very thin premise, and I remember when he bought the rights and I was like, I like that book.

[02:23:16] I don't know how that book is more than 30 pages long. And they made it, it's a weird, weird movie. It's kind of about communism. It's 82 minutes long. Yeah, Nicholas Cage plays like a wizard ant.

[02:23:29] I watched it as part of my thing where I was trying to watch every Nicholas Cage movie, to write an article about it and then the outlet went under. What was the outlet? What was it called? Champion magazine. Never heard. Yeah, well I wonder why.

[02:23:43] Never got paid for it. Okay. The other animated movie though, number four, I think it's an Oscar nominee that year. Monster House. Finger. There we go. That's a good one. That's a Monster House. That's okay. You just think it's okay? You've also got Lady in the Water. Narp.

[02:24:01] You, me and DePrie? Little Man? Hollywood was different back then. Oh boy. Devil Wears Prada, my super ex-girlfriend. Uh huh. New This Week, Little Miss Sunshine. Oh. In Seven Theater. New This Week, Scoop. That's a pick-uping. Yeah. Scoop. Scoop. Hugh Jackman, Scarlett Johansson, Ian McShane. Scoop. Scoop.

[02:24:26] There it is. New This Week. Uh, that's it. It's kind of fascinating that Superman Returns is already this far out of the 10. It's 12. Yeah. It's made 185 on its way to 200. It leaks. They keep in theaters for like seven months. Jesus.

[02:24:43] They probably played it in Drive-Ins for like forever. Because their thing was like our magic number is we green light a sequel if it makes it to 200 and then they eek to 200 and they're like. And everyone was like where's the sequel? And they were like, oh. Uh, yeah.

[02:24:54] Don't worry about it. It's too bad. That movie is great and definitely was not made by a criminal given just blinking. I'm trying to work a logic there. Uh, it was made by criminals. It was made by criminals. But it's an amazing movie. Yeah. Well, it's okay.

[02:25:13] That's it? That's a movie we would have done a Blank Shack episode on two years ago. We almost did. 100%. We almost did it instead of Lost in Space. Now I wish we had. And the reason we didn't?

[02:25:24] Because we would have, yeah, we were like, oh, we might do Brian Singer one day. No, we won't. Well, you don't want to do him footage not found. Right. Next year, March Madness losers bracket following your March Madness criminals bracket. Oh no, too many contenders.

[02:25:45] That's going to be the one time that McTurne finally wins. Because at least his crimes aren't on our month as morally abhorrent. Right. Yes. Miami Vice. It made 163 worldwide. Yeah. It's a good movie. It's a great movie. It makes me so happy.

[02:26:03] Okay, can I just, do you still have- Definitely not about Miami though at all. What's more about Cuba? Yeah. Yeah, my advice. Do you- It covers vice. Yeah. Do you still have the window open with the top films of 06? I can get it really quickly. Why?

[02:26:19] We're just getting this episode but I'm just curious to see if I could do that as well. The top five? Yeah. Because wait, Deadman's Chess number one, Night of the Museum number two is Cars number three? Yes. Ben's holding up the picture. Don't keep going again.

[02:26:36] Cars is number three, 244. Cars is number three, 244. So there are two other movies over 200. There's actually three because Superman Returns- And that's number six. And maybe it's a hundred. Right? Okay, so there are two, four and five or either of them franchises. One is- they both are.

[02:26:55] One's the start of a franchise, one's the third film. Oh, is it Chronicles of Narnia? Nope. Oh, that's a five. I guess so. One is the start of a franchise, one is a third film. One is a third film. One is a third and final? No. No.

[02:27:12] Third and third of like 16. I mean there's been so many fucking spin-offs. Third of 16? I mean 16 is the number I'm making up. I don't know how many. There've been a lot. This one here? No, this one, this one here.

[02:27:28] They remade it this year and it just came out. We saw it together. We saw it to- oh, X-Men the Last Dan. Yep. Weird to think of that film as a remake. Kind of is. Right, so that's 234. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. Should have you been thanking me?

[02:27:46] Should you be angry at me for revealing this sickness? And the number five is starting a franchise. Yeah, of which there have been three movies. We barely know it's just a franchise starting. It was seen as- it was probably one of the most hyped movies of the year.

[02:28:04] Really? Oh, six. When did it come out? August. No, no, I'm sorry. Not August, that's when it left theaters. May 19th. I was briefly surprised like this came out, no, it came out May 19th. How's that May 19th? It's Sony Columbia. Sony Columbia starts a franchise.

[02:28:22] They make three. Yes. It was big. Yeah, big. It was hyped. People don't remember now how fucking big this was. David's pointing knowingly. What's underneath? On the poster. There's something underneath on the poster? I would say this is his worst hair. Horrible hair.

[02:28:44] The worst hair in any movie. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. It's the Da Vinci code. Was that too much? Gotta crack the code. No, no, no, no. Also, I mean the teaser poster with Mona Lisa is fine.

[02:29:00] But like this was what they settled on for the final poster. Yeah. It's just like Tom Hanks and Audrey Dettoo look sort of concerned. Yeah. They're kind of like, huh, that's how they look. It's crazy how bad he looks in that movie. That movie is fucking garbage.

[02:29:15] It looks like, is it a wig? I don't know. Like he looks like someone took a shit on his head. I believe he said they straightened it for him because he's got such curly hair. He has curly hair. He has very curly hair.

[02:29:25] He's all wrong for that character anyway. And then that whole movie, because he's supposed to be so folksy, and that guy's supposed to be kind of weird. Right. And then that whole movie is just they go to the fucking museum of choice. They're like four places. Yeah.

[02:29:38] And he's like, let me talk for 10 minutes. And he just fucking talks. Right. He's like, what you don't know is that if you turn the painting upside down, it's a penis. But that was like he had... And that's about the Illuminati and you're like, great.

[02:29:50] He had his 10-year run of always $100 million grossors, including two Oscar wins. And then he has two flops in the same year. Right. And so 06 is him being like, I need a guaranteed hit. It was one. Tell me the worldwide total on that movie. So what? It does 212?

[02:30:10] 212, I was... 217. Okay, 217 worldwide total in 2006. So the international hasn't blown up as much as it has, but I still think the worldwide total is like 580? 758. That is insane. It was colossal. That is insane. Yes. For that era, World Wide Audience has aided up.

[02:30:32] That's why they keep getting made because people will be like, people don't really like those movies though, right? And it was like, no, you don't understand. Right. Like it crushes overseas. Because like the year before that... But then Inferno, I think, I mean it did,

[02:30:44] it made 85% of its money overseas, but still. Yeah. The year before that as Batman Begins makes like 350 worldwide. Right. And they were like, well yeah, other countries didn't see movies yet. Okay, well that's the end of our episode. That's my advice. Apologies to the two potential guests

[02:31:02] who are probably listening to this and going, Jesus Christ, what have they done without us? I know. Well, if they come back, if they come on the show, we'll just do Miami Vice together. We'll do my advice or we'll do something else. Well, we'll do something else

[02:31:15] but we can also just do like a Miami Vice Patreon. Yeah, I'll do cocaine. Yeah. Ben will do cocaine. For the first time ever. Yeah. It's a Patreon stretch goal. I don't even like this line of jokes. Okay, sorry. No, you're right. Cocaine is bad.

[02:31:33] But if we get 8,000 Patreon subscribers... Ben will do so much coke. I was going to say, I will get addicted to ether. I'll start huffing ether regs. That is a very Griffin kind of thing. Right. Yeah, that's on brand. I think that would be a fun affectation.

[02:31:49] What it... Or would it kill you? Quickly. I see Griffin though inhaling from a cloth as a delivery system for drugs for him. But that makes sense to me. I agree. He's a real reg. He's not a smoker. He's not a vapor. He's not a shooter uppers.

[02:32:03] Not a sniffer. I'm a clother. He's a cloth. Oh man with a cloth. You're a man with a cloth. As long as there's ether on that cloth. Thank you all for listening. A horrible note. Please remember to review, subscribe, things and Instagram for our social media.

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[02:32:35] Go to Patreon for a Blank Check special features where we're still going through the Marvel movies. But by this point we've had the Keep Role Playing Game episode which we've referenced. Woo! And you listen to that, you might meet some fun new characters. Oh boy.

[02:32:52] And a fun old character. Frazzled David. Yeah. And as always, we're all fiends from our heroes. Allah Chikkun.