Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children with Emma Stefansky

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check Welcome to Miss Peregrines Home for Podculeur Castrens Castrens Podculeur Cast

[00:00:34] You couldn't find a line, people There's nothing Wait, IMDb has nothing like You want to know what they are? If I show you the rest, you have to promise not to run away That's one of four Oh yeah, I remember that, when it's in the boat

[00:00:49] And then she... They cut to a completely different area I just watched it last night Do you want to know what killed me? That's another one No, that's the little creepy boy I mean that's sort of a good line in context

[00:01:03] All of these are only kind of working Oh, when he's in the... Do you want to know what killed me? You don't have to make us feel safe because you've made us feel brave Made us feel podcast How non-specific is that? It's a great line from Chex Notes

[00:01:17] Emma Bloom Whoever that is Here's another one Baron And then in brackets Emma's keeping Baron pinned against a wall By using her peculiarity Hell yeah Eventually you're going to run out of breath And then it'll be all over Death for your beloved Jake and Miss Peregrine

[00:01:34] Everlasting life for me Baron takes a whiff of Emma's breath Ooh, and a mint for you I don't know He has a lot of lines like that He's trying Look, I had been wanting to do Burton for a long time

[00:01:48] And this is the only movie that made me go like I don't know, maybe we should do it Because it's such a bummer to end on it Which is why like 18 months ago We were like, we can do it Now that Dumbo's announced

[00:01:58] Exactly, I was sort of like With Dumbo on the books This is more exciting There's no way Dumbo is less interesting than this Right? Dumbo looks good I agree Dumbo looks great It looks like it's going to make me cry Exactly It can't be less interesting than this

[00:02:13] It can But this also on the surface On paper looks interesting That's the problem Yeah, it's got a look And the kids, they're peculiar I never saw this movie And I'm nervous now for Dumbo Honestly This one Because this is a similar kind of story

[00:02:31] It's a similar kind of vibe Children's fairy tale Well, if you go like, hey, here's the kid It's got a circus Tim Burton's X-Men Yeah, right He's going to do his YA fiction Yeah, but unfortunately that was it Tim Burton's X-Men And they were like, great

[00:02:45] And he was like, I can phone it in For the next year? Great, okay cool You got that, right? You brought that down my X-Men? I was trying to like I was watching it And I was like, what does this feel like?

[00:02:54] And I was like, it feels like Michelle Hanukkah trying to make a Tim Burton movie Like it has the sort of like funerial tone Okay It's like very icy It's very slow There's a lot of silence It feels very hermetic Boring The word you're looking for is boring

[00:03:11] Well, I'm saying like The Hanukkah style would be boring If there wasn't so much going on subtextually You know If he wasn't like so keyed into the psychology of these situations Because everything is very like slow And icy and locked down And this Burton's like, cool

[00:03:28] I'm going to do the Hanukkah style Except everyone's going to seem really unexcited About exciting things happening Sure, certainly I don't know where you're coming from I'm not going anywhere I'm not coming anywhere I didn't expect you to say Hanukkah I come from nothing I'm going nowhere Sure

[00:03:43] Our guest today is Emma Stefanski The great Stefanski You didn't introduce the podcast yet Well, important above the title billing Fine Alright, Emma Hi She's the Eva Green of this episode And that she's the most important element Emma Stefanski works at Thrillist now

[00:03:58] I can turn into a bird She's our good friend Yeah, right Good friend This is Blind Check with Griffin and David It's a podcast about filmographies Directors need some water I mean massive success early on in their career And then David's rolling to a water bottle

[00:04:12] Given a series of blind checks Make whatever crazy passion projects they want Or sometimes they just make a movie like this Because I don't know They didn't have any plans that fall Right, in return, you know Right Do you want to make an X-Men? Like a UX-Men? No

[00:04:29] Do you want like 15 million dollars to do it? Oh, okay, sure Let's do it See, when you said the no thing I think he was probably like Yeah, I like making movies I don't love sitting alone at home with my thoughts Give me a movie to make

[00:04:41] I guess it's been like a couple of years Since I made a movie Okay, let's make that one Yeah Do you want to know what it's about? Oh, I figured you'll tell me later Yeah, you told me the title I can learn from there It's called Podward Scissorcast

[00:04:55] It's the films of Tim Burton Unfortunately as of recording This is his most recent film We're crossing our fingers and hoping that That Dumbo will be a little bit of a return to form I mean, I'll say this Dumbo from the trailers looks Nothing if not emotional Right?

[00:05:09] I feel like the fear all of us have Is it going to be too saccharine? Is it going to be too manipulative? Sure This movie is just like There are few films with lead characters This lacking in urgency He's taking his mother away

[00:05:25] We have to have a whole conversation about Is it ASA or ASA? I think it's ASA Butterfield But I could be wrong It would be two Asas ASA ASA Butterfield pronunciation I feel like it is ASA See, I think it's ASA too ASA BASA

[00:05:40] You just said you thought it was ASA Oh really? You just said that Well, it speaks to the forgetability of his performance Can I ask a big question? Has anyone in this room It's ASA It's ASA You can always ask a big question That's what I remember

[00:05:55] Okay Ben? Rhymes with Asia Ben Douze Perduerbem What's up? Po-Lori Tell me Finds film credit Go on Close personal friend of Dan Lewis Continue Mr. Positive Sure Mr. Positive What were you saying? The Haas I'd like you to elaborate What is your thought? Birthday Benny Do you have

[00:06:15] So come up in An answer to my question Durbike Benny Booker Dot dot dot Are you still not going to tell me what's up? Here's my question for you Yeah, okay, play Play You graduate to certain titles Over the course of different major Yes Producer Ben Kenobi

[00:06:30] That's Star Wars Kylo Ben Ben I-Charmelon Ben Say Say Ben anything dot dot dot Ailey Benz with a dollar sign Warhawz James Cameron Perduerbain Oh that was What's his name? Ben 19 the film maker Yeah Rubble Haas Ben Glish Mm-hmm Uh Mr. Incredible I'm pretty cool

[00:06:51] The most recent one What did we just do before Burton? God, we're really locked in Ben's Myers Oh, the Haas Lide Haas, do you know? Did we do that one? Haas, do you know? No, we did Ben Glish Be drink Ben Haas Be drink Ben Haas

[00:07:04] There you go There you go What's the Burton one? I know you're I know it's quiet on the Ben front these days But there's plenty to choose from Benward Scissorhands No Beedle Haas Bendeljuice Bendeljuice Bendeljuice Beedle Vape Mm-hmm Okay Beedle Vapejuice Beedle Vapejuice Beedle Vapejuice is not bad

[00:07:31] David, Beedle Vapejuice is not bad and it's a new twist What if we don't have to put Ben's name in the nickname? This is maybe the Dark Knight of Nicknames You know what I'm saying? Where it's like a nickname for a nickname Beedle Vapejuice He's vaping right now

[00:07:47] David, Beedle Vapejuice Emma, Emma Wow You're the guest of honor Emma, Beedle Vapejuice He really is vape Beedle Vapejuice Okay fine I don't know You're grinding me down here I don't have a counter to you Oh fuck, I just summoned Beedle Vapejuice I said it too many times

[00:08:03] You know the rule It's branded 15 times and then Beedle Vapejuice is summoned He's like Okay, here I am It's He's super chill So it takes him a while to get there Showtime Takes a long drag in the middle Okay so Griffin, what was your Here's my question

[00:08:22] Has anyone in this room watched Sex Education? No Cause that's a comedy You've seen it Is he funny at all on that? He's nice He's very sweet He's doing dead pain He's English in it right? Yes So he's got the advantage of using his regular accent

[00:08:36] This does feel like one of those performances where maybe 80% of his energy was wasted on the accent I think so too There are times when I was like oh, you can really tell that he's not American That he's really locking in

[00:08:47] Like putting all of his focus onto the accent He's saying to have him and Chris so doubt and seeing each other Neither of them are good at this accent Neither of them are American And it's when the smoke's weird You just go let them be British

[00:08:58] Are you serious? Oh I thought they were great Yeah They nailed it The whole time I was like Oh there's a Southern man It's weird to be in Britain Yes, Sean It is weird to be in Britain I'm a Floridian He does that Like the certain

[00:09:12] Sometimes it gets Irish adjacent We're going on trip Does he use an American accent in Ender's Game? I don't remember Cause in Hugo he's a little English boy Right Of course a boy with the straight pajamas He's a little English boy You gotta wear the pajamas Sure

[00:09:29] I saw that movie with my grandmother Screening where everyone else was like my grandmother And everyone walked out being like Nuts and Schindler's List And I was like I cannot wait for anyone else my age to see this movie and call shenanigans on it

[00:09:42] Yeah that one got some shenanigans You know he's been around Aisa Yes He was right around the time of the release of this film I feel like Number two for Spidey And the rumor was they're about to sign the contract Right And then this came out

[00:09:59] There were two things I heard lost in the job One was he did Terrible performance in this film Three things I heard Lost in the job I think maybe they cold a little bit after seeing this performance Two they screen tested him with Robert Downey Jr.

[00:10:13] And he is kind of tall Oh he is tall A big reason why they hired Tom Holland Aside from him being a wonderful actor who's a perfect fit for Spider-Man He's 6 feet tall Right And Tom Holland is like He's here in my pocket right now He's like 5'5

[00:10:30] He's like sub-grift size And Robert Downey Jr. is my size And they wanted someone who looked like a child next to Robert Downey Jr. The other thing I heard is As of Butterfield Aisa Bays of Butterfield was going around telling everyone

[00:10:44] Yeah I'm about to sign the contract for Spider-Man And Marvel got really angry that he was in so loose lip Because it was definitely widely reported Like Butterfield's closing in Yes Right They were like The ink is about to hit the page

[00:10:58] Do you remember the guy who was kind of flat in three movies? You know Hugo Yeah Andrews Game Hugo is kind of fine then I don't like that movie very much But I think he's like fine I like that movie He's a blank slate Nothing

[00:11:13] I mean it's weird This performance is It's one of those things where Like I've said this But sometimes I see a movie Like I remember what I feel mean to this fuck I do too that's why I don't want to wrap on him

[00:11:25] And he's in this sex education thing now Which I don't know Apparently the most watched show in the history Of mankind Netflix reporting is always like The first episode of sex education Has been watched more than every Super Bowl combined That movie where Kurt Russell is Santa

[00:11:40] Has grossed more than Gone with the wind Like in its first three days Not since the moon landing Have this many people watch something The moment it airs It's also like They use the same number all the time It's like 40 million people Yeah They have like multiple tweets

[00:11:55] Where it's like 40 million people watch this Not suspicious at all Not suspicious at all Just pull that one right out of your pocket I will say Like I remember sitting through Welcome to Marwyn When I was welcomed to Marwyn You don't sit through Welcome to Marwyn

[00:12:09] You experience it You live in Welcome to Marwyn Exactly you move in When I went for a stay in Marwyn When I was welcome from Marwyn and settled down I like halfway through was like Why do I like movies And it wasn't one of those things where like

[00:12:26] I dislike Marwyn so much that it made me question the art form It was one of those things where I genuinely went like Wait so what is it I use to decide whether or not a movie is good Like what metrics matter And watching his performance in this

[00:12:37] I also go like Wait so like what is it I want out of an actor Like it makes you question the entire art of acting Well the thing about this character He's bad The character's not incredibly well read But the character right It's just sort of like

[00:12:52] What's the Tell me one thing about this character He said that his grandpa died I feel for him Grandpa's do die Grandpa's die Especially when they're in their 80s and their eyes get sucked out of their heads And look good in for a movie Good hook

[00:13:07] What if a grandpa died And then it's like One of my favorite things about this movie is like What you don't know is that you are peculiar Oh awesome what's my power You can see those monsters that we've seen already It's like the most horrible power

[00:13:21] It's like the most fucked up thing in the world We can't see them So you can kind of point them out There's one over there Yeah you can just be perpetually terrified Yeah Do you have any other powers? No But you go like

[00:13:36] This movie like first ten minutes It tries to lock you into two things One the classic Tim Burton Here's a California boy Who is not bright and sunny like the rest of them Actually Florida here but yes Right Okay a sunshine boy let's say

[00:13:49] A pale boy in a sunshine state A pale suburban child Right here's a pale boy in a sunshine state He doesn't fit in Two is this boy really was close to his grandfather Yeah Right the most Like the most upper end I should be like

[00:14:03] His grandfather was the most important person in the world to him Well it's fishy too It's like yeah this grandpa who would tell these tall tales And they were very close And now he's getting older And maybe he's realizing like was my grandpa full of shit

[00:14:14] And Chris the dad's like Son let me tell you about Nazis They'll fuck a man up okay Look he might have been a great grandpa But he wasn't a great father I thought that line reading was so moving That I just burst into tears

[00:14:27] I'm realizing his American accent His American accent is a little Mandarin Like you may say I'm a terrorist Fortune cookies Fortune cookies No but you know it's like Wait you think Chris the dad thought the Terence stamp was like Fortune cookies he was hollow and full of lies

[00:14:47] Hollow gas I don't know what to say about this movie Well here's the important thing Alright Stavansky guest of honor Yep I'm exclusively and repeatedly calling you guest of honor For this episode friend of the show You put your bid in for this episode

[00:15:02] Because you have read the book I read the book And it did By one ransom rigs Ransom rigs That's a made up name No the notion of this book is It's his real name I take it back That's his name He's from Florida Maybe this is autobiographical

[00:15:15] Well I think Right my understanding of the book is He found a lot of like weird photos That were sort of like kind of unidentified Diane Arbussey kind of photos a Hosed odd looking people He would like go to like flea markets And stuff and just get them

[00:15:31] And acquire photos and they're like You know photos that have like no Creditation, no backstory Sure And he tried to write a book around these photos Which is a pretty cool idea And be like I'm gonna create a universe In which all these photos make sense

[00:15:45] You understand how for a publisher they be like That sounds fucking cool Sure We need a YA book for like Pictures of the book Right we need a YA book for like Sad lonely goth kids You know In the same way that like You know

[00:15:59] I feel like series of unfortunate events At the time was sort of like The loner equivalent to Harry Potter If it's like you're a little more twisted Yeah a little more twisted Right you need some snicket It's edgy It's like this is like

[00:16:11] Okay this is the loner divergent You know And so you go like Obviously the guy to hire is Tim Burton And like in 2002 When they're trying to make a lemony snicket movie And they hire it to Tim Burton He goes like a little on the nose

[00:16:25] I don't think I should do it You know Sure It's like two in my wheelhouse Where I don't know if I could bring anything to it Yeah And then this movie he was like Yeah I'll do it I have some free time What changed I don't know

[00:16:36] But then you I watched this movie I mean a friend of the show Passing Future Guess Alex Ross Perry He told me he was like When I told him we were doing Tim Burton He was like I just found out the other day

[00:16:47] That he directed that Peregrine movie And I was like Yeah you couldn't tell from the trailer And he was like I remember seeing I figured someone was ripping them off Right I remember saying like Which USC graduate Exactly right Made a really good Tim Burton inspired short film

[00:17:01] And got to direct this movie at 27 I definitely was thinking While I was watching it Like this is the least That I've seen of his That he has directed And you feel like Got stop motion creatures Until then Little twins who were in sacks But you feel like

[00:17:15] Sack twins If a Burton acolyte Or someone who grew up Utilizing Burton got to make this movie It would at least have the energy Of someone being like I have to prove I can make a movie Or at least have energy And that's the main thing

[00:17:27] This film is so lacking in energy So like I don't want to put all of it On Butterfield's feet But it doesn't help I definitely like Went to the bathroom in the middle of it And was like What if I just don't come out of the bathroom

[00:17:40] I'll tell you if I never Do you want to know what hell is I had one of my regular bouts Of insomnia last night And was watching this movie And was like At least it will put me to sleep You keep saying this But I don't

[00:17:51] And I couldn't Maybe it wasn't Maybe it was I was so bored And so excited I've seen this movie already I saw it When again Yeah And I put it on And it put me to sleep Like I made it halfway through And then I was like

[00:18:04] I've got to go to bed And I watched the rest of the morning Because it's boring That's my review Ben Hosley We were talking to him Ben Hosley texts us Well, I didn't want to watch this movie The text is being like Can I skip this one guys?

[00:18:17] Do I have permission to skip? Yeah But then And we were like Yes To be clear Neither of us were like Pushing back on that And we're I mean this is being released In an opposite order We're recording a couple episodes this week

[00:18:29] Tomorrow we're recording Alice in Wonderland And we were like If you're going to pick one Alice in Wonderland Because at least it's like An engrossing disaster There's stuff in there There's stuff in there And Adelaide is weird in it Right They're good

[00:18:40] There are better elements than there are In this film And they're worst elements Jesus Christ Yeah But then I was like But you are a peculiar child I am I was a strange child And you were saying Like you used to hang out at Graveyard

[00:18:52] And what was the other thing You added a Z to your name What's your super name? That was the thing I didn't know Emma Well get the super power question But I just Before he ruins it Before he ruins this Ben Hosley said

[00:19:04] When I was in high school I added a No, an elementary school Elementary school When I was in elementary school I added a Z to my name Where do you think that Z would be? Knowing Ben Hosley As a name HOS LeY

[00:19:16] Where do you think he would have placed that Z? Obviously it's Zen Hosley It's Ben's Hosley I do like Zen Hosley Right Here's why this is going to happen I was trying to overly telegraph That the obvious choice would be Replace the S Yeah, Ben Hosley

[00:19:32] I knew by doing that You would go for the more creative next level thing Which is Zen Hosley And instead he became Mercedes-Benz Hosley Now I didn't like cars My parents refer to this as my Z phase They call it the Z phase Your Z period I just

[00:19:48] For whatever reason Like my teachers I remember my teachers being concerned Because I would be like You have to call me Ben's And they're like What? No Right Fair answer I'm gonna I think my parents are gonna come out of my mouth But yeah

[00:20:03] And I was also obsessed with death Because my parents Annually we would drive to Florida And they would always put on Mystery Books and on tapes This will be a zone Ben's wheel Sue Graffton I got so obsessed Everytime I saw a cemetery In like third grade

[00:20:19] We gotta stop Jesus And you're the only kid too So you have some power I do It's not like the other kid could be like And then you sort of like a three-to-one situation. Nope. I was like Spanish moss creepy old gravestones. Hell yeah, we're stopping baby

[00:20:34] Well, here's a lever you go this you know my name. It's Ben's I genuinely believe not your name This movie automatically becomes a gentleman six if you have some take on the lead character

[00:20:47] Hmm and hire a more compelling actor like Ben if you go like okay the key is it's been He's like kind of a scumbum He's like a bad kid sure Right whereas this is more like he's like well, I'm a little different right. Oh, how are you different?

[00:21:02] Yeah, yeah, like me school here's another thing. What if the kids funny? What if the kids got a rye energy? What if he's still a little but he's sort of sarcastic real quiet? Doesn't talk too much Delivers everything with the same affectation. Yeah

[00:21:17] My grandfather so much are we on to something that he died dad We have to go to the English countryside immediately. I need to see if the school is there my therapist says I need to go to Because that's seen where he's like this movie. I'm sorry

[00:21:32] It's incredible pre-Oscar. She's fourth bill. Yeah, yeah, she's a name I'm not gonna deny Jenny or but that's one of those things where it kind of distorts the movie because when Jenny is

[00:21:42] Fourth-billed and she's out of the movie in the first 15 minutes you go there has to be something else to her character No, I saw her and when I saw she's the like no weird fake. No, that's not yeah sure

[00:21:53] It turns out she she was playing it like Samuel Jackson. Yeah. Yeah, that was what we're gonna say when I have to go to therapy Go to that countryside. Yes, Terence. Damn dessert to die. Yeah, I hope he burns in hell his eyes work tasty Oh

[00:22:08] When I did see that she was fourth-billed in the movie, I thought I forgot that Samuel Jackson was in it Yikes But I had just read the book and I knew that the therapist was also like the evil There's just an evil Jenny dark Jenny like mean Jenny

[00:22:26] And I was really excited for like two seconds and then I remembered that same Jack Jackson isn't it which usually would excite me But then right by that point I was like, oh boy It's interesting too that Samuel Jackson is in a movie directed by Tim Burton

[00:22:40] He is hated enemy who directed Martin Landau to an Oscar. Yes very interesting, right? Do you think they talked about and this is the movie where? Burton comes under fire from the press where it's like the whole movie is like a pasty white countryside

[00:22:55] These children might be peculiar Look I cast a black actor and people were like he eats I And Sam Jack is always kind of a hand waver where he's just like why are people getting upset? It's fun

[00:23:13] I want to play whatever right, right? He does like I do two movies a week. I thought it was fun They sent me the script. I said I've never eaten an eye on screen

[00:23:20] He is one of those guys a lot of I slurps one up like yeah, and you go gross He's having some fun in this sure Eva greens having some fun for her 15 minutes

[00:23:31] She's having a little fun. Yeah, sure right and I think Ella pernell is kind of good No, I kind of like her in this I like her. I like her hair to fancy. Yeah, her name is Emma. Yeah. Thank you I have to

[00:23:48] Her name her name actually speaking of my name. I actually added a Z to my name too when I was younger Oh, that's right. Oh Enza I'm so my friend like called it called me that and then spirit. Yeah Yeah

[00:24:02] Now did you have the teachers call you by that name or was it just like a amongst friends kind of some did like Especially in high school because I had it as my name on Facebook and like I guess I could see that

[00:24:14] And I got to the point where like in college I changed my Facebook name to my real name and all of my friends flipped Because it had been my fake name for so long. I got a lot of comments like oh wow end of an era

[00:24:27] Just like very dramatic, you know, there are a bunch of those like like Darcy Cardin Is just someone who like when she was 12 added a like Apocryphe into her name to see more mysterious and now it's like her acting stage name, right?

[00:24:39] She's like no, my name is just Darcy I just when I was 12 wanted to see more interesting Doss Right. I think will defose the same thing I think he just thought at some point it'd be more interesting if it was spelled that way

[00:24:49] His name is William, right his name is William Defoe. Yeah, I didn't know that yeah Come on will them there a bunch of guys like that were just like yeah when I was like 12

[00:24:58] I thought it was funny to spell it this way and now I'm an Academy Award nominated actor One of eight children the foe. Yeah This brother is Donald Defoe Don Defoe. Yeah Well, this movie is clearly a lot of fun. We like talking about it

[00:25:14] We're revved up about paragraph another billing Eva green number one. Okay, she's not Not in a lot at the moment I guess ace about our field should be number one But he's number two and I remember seeing this for the first time when she finally enters 30 minutes

[00:25:28] And I was like, okay finally she's gonna be the character with energy, right? She's doing like fun full Burton stuff and 15 minutes later. She's like, I'll see you guys in about an hour and a half For one second. Yeah, she's not in the end of the movie

[00:25:40] She literally appears silently just so that it's like yeah, she's not dead. Yeah, you know I just remember being like oh that's kind of interesting that like there's a hundred million dollar Tim Burton movie where it's just Eva green above the

[00:25:51] Title right she must really bring it in this movie and it must be really her really brought across bow She did it's kind of cool. Yeah, all the posters were like she's got a crossbow all the crossbow stuff anytime Mr. Crossbow on screen it's good

[00:26:08] I like some parts of this movie the sequence especially Where they're like at the amusement park on the pier See I like that that's my favorite part of the movie That's my favorite trunk. Yeah, my eyes really just glazed over in the blackpool stuff

[00:26:23] That's when I'm dead that move that I hate when the EDM music is playing I like some of the school stuff like some of their you know when Eve is there, you know That's fine and it's more colorful

[00:26:39] There is a lack of urgency to this entire film. There's a very big care. I love the big carrot. It's carrot There's stuff your granddaddy's care. I'm just like these kind of movies where they go like here's a world

[00:26:49] You never know existed. Let me introduce you to the rogues gallery of characters Usually is like that's the fun peppy part Yeah, like it takes 25 minutes to get through the introductions to the kids

[00:26:59] It doesn't also I'm like which one is this again like immediately afterwards slowly walk up these stairs like every little white children Like I don't remember if you like is she head child or is she strong child or is she plant child? Remember there's yonce fank mire

[00:27:14] Who makes his stop motion like meet and doll part puppets and then and I know every why a book has this but like the character is like I'm the mean one. I don't like you right?

[00:27:24] It's like why don't you like him? I don't know maybe it'll be explained later, but I'm just a problem I don't like the way you fold your side. All right He is the most fucking

[00:27:33] Convoluted power where he's like oh, yeah, let me use my power. Let me just reach into my bag of hearts. Yeah Like his power. I mean for me It's like I want your more like convoluted like that is Quite a peculiar power sure, you know

[00:27:48] Pregulatory Ben did you watch the movie or not? That's my question What did you tell us like you did because if you got to blackpool I watched the whole movie So it was enough. It's what hooked you in enough. It got me

[00:27:58] It got me far along enough where I was ready to give up. Yeah, but then I think There was enough action with the Creature showing up that I was like all right whatever. I'll just stick it out

[00:28:15] I also feel like I was a lot more forgiving my first time because you're watching the whole time going like maybe the next Scene it's gonna start getting good The second time I know it never really pops. It's just like a slog together

[00:28:26] Well for me watching the second time I was like Judy Dench is in this like literally I was just like I forgot whole like two minutes. Yeah Rages. I think when they go on the boat and there's the bones. I'm like fuck. I love bones All right

[00:28:41] There's some good stuff the boat thing bugs me because she's like all right. I'll tell you my secret But first we have to go to this location. Okay, they get in a fucking boat

[00:28:51] They go in the boat then you sink down on the water sink down on the water Then she's got a blow air into the fucking boat and I'm like it takes her this long Well, you have to see the boat Boat that's to you know, yeah

[00:29:04] Boat the bomb of the ocean has come back to Right that's the check off boat roll. I'm a you're pretty voracious reader in general I try to read do you read a lot? Do you read Emma? Hey say what you want? Wow, is that you're catching like

[00:29:26] Emma's dancing around the studio. She's literally flexing Stacks of books in my arms. Oh my god. Look she's cut. Yeah Book lift in like 200 pounds right now that book her peculiarity. She can lift anything as long as it's You have the same energy as everyone in this movie

[00:29:50] Lighting the offices on fire all with her book power all with the B-boy, but it's books that live inside my stomach Put on your net Emma Emma just coughed up a paperback Um Do you read a lot of YA in general? I've gotten kind of back into it

[00:30:09] I have a friend who writes it now and she's published a couple books that are fun So I tried to support tell me how you get to this book How did I get to this book?

[00:30:17] Cuz I hadn't heard of it before they like announced that timber it was making it at which point went this sounds like good material for him I know it's successful, but it wasn't like cultural phenomenon. It was a bestseller Okay, it was a New York Times

[00:30:29] I like I used to actually not do it at all because I was one of those kids who's like, I'm not gonna read books that are popular Yeah, Liam So I started reading a lot of weird stuff, but then like you know a few years ago

[00:30:42] I was just like I'm done being that child. We do the books office game Quiz to fanski on the New York Times New York Times bestseller list I'm not gonna do that

[00:30:56] Maybe pull it off maybe we'll get that later. Okay, so you have no idea how to pull that up, but I'll try How much do you like this book when you read it? Not very much Okay, so it's not even like your jam

[00:31:05] No, when you gave it a shot. Yeah, you didn't read the sequels now there of which there are currently three other books Yeah, it's four total when you hear that he is making a movie of it

[00:31:15] Is your thought like why or is it maybe he'll be able to do something with that premise? I was interested in seeing it when I saw the trailer Because the trailer is pretty cool the trailer is pretty cool and then a lot of number one

[00:31:28] Right, isn't it like a mama cast cover? And it's like just big on the visuals the trailer has like a cover of a mama cast song or something I'll summon the trailer. Yeah. It was a good trailer

[00:31:39] Yeah, it was good and it's got a lot of evergreen in it. Yes her because Pretty in a lot of her movies pretty charismatic It's just never doesn't play a witch. That's the only problem right

[00:31:50] But this year like she's one of the few actors who seems like they're having fun Yeah, like she is on the right tonal wavelength for this movie. Mm-hmm and she's good in like the list You know scene where she just lists things

[00:32:04] You're like oh this is starting to get a little momentum Because this actress is at least bringing her own like rhythm to the thing Whereas everyone else it's like

[00:32:12] It feels like a movie where he edited it in a way to leave as many pauses in between lines as possible It's weird. It's a lot of like children being dramatic to sometimes is good and sometimes it's really not good the cover is good

[00:32:25] I mean, it's a creepy right? It's another way sort of the trailer is all the boat stuff Yeah, so yeah, the imagery is kind of cool though. You see her like Rise up to the tree with the rope around like I like that stuff. She's a floaty gal

[00:32:38] She's floating sure air is her peculiarity in the book actually It's the other girl right like the main girl. It's different right the fire girl is Air girl is like younger. She's just like not even a character. She's one of the menagerie

[00:32:52] Mm-hmm. Did they just think fire was hack where they sick of fire? I think they just wanted like his love interest is fire girl Right and in this they sort of set it up

[00:33:01] Maybe there's no love interest that it's almost supposed to be a love triangle because Enoch seems to get jealous of How much fire girl is taken by Butterfield? But then it doesn't really but then they sort of like pair up at the end right and he's like

[00:33:14] Oh, I can't believe you're dead now when she's like frozen right and then he has that speech right thought the movie is like This sort of sub emotional quote-unquote emotional arc of Enoch learning to tell fire girl about his feelings

[00:33:28] Sure. Well, you know keeps his heart locked away in a box. I don't fucking know right You gotta keep your heart in box to be here Um, it's only a safe thing to do. I have the first week that it's number one, which was its 45th week

[00:33:41] Yeah, it's kind of impressive the book. Yeah Yeah, that's what's cool about books too is they still can like grow like that. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah one two Three other books here have become movies. Okay, which ones well, let's see if you can go

[00:34:00] One of them is very popular probably one of the most popular books for young people in the last ten years What year is it? Well, we're talking 2012. This book is pretty new at that point time hunger games

[00:34:10] No, no, no think so pure sad version. No, no, no, no sci-fi real life real life Turned into a movie big hit movie. So it's not a franchise right now. I think I know what it there's no franchise here No, no, no, is it YA?

[00:34:26] These are all why a so be why it's not I can't the sad book makes you cry But this all the funner starts yeah Which as far as I know how much has it made so far?

[00:34:40] I don't know. It's only 14 weeks on it's new newer fresh, okay, then we've got a book that's been on the list for a hundred and nine weeks I'm not doing the other ones. I'm just doing the ones that return into movies

[00:34:52] That's was turned into a movie that stars someone we've been talking about Samuel Jackson Think younger ace of base of Butterfield ace of base Is it Hugo Hugo invention of Hugo Cabra a movie bump? Yeah, maybe that's what it is

[00:35:13] Another one that's brand new four weeks on the list Got turned into a movie much later a couple years ago autobiography Malcolm X This is children's books. Oh junior autobiography of Malcolm X as told to Big Bird. Yes. No like a inspirational Sort of book about you know

[00:35:40] Be yourself. It's tough. It's a real life. You're gonna do more space. So but it kind of has the vibe of a real life So is it John Ray? No, no, no no hard. No, no and it stars a young actor

[00:35:52] Ace of base of Butterfield not him think younger Little more charming grading Your man my man Jacob Tremblay is he my man? Yeah, okay you once called him my man Sure Okay, it's one day. It's wonder. I was gonna say the book of Henry

[00:36:13] But I mean a book isn't well should be published. I mean it is a book wants to assassinate a local I wish they had done that like the book of Henry was had more like a

[00:36:24] Muscle behind it and they had released it as like a tie-in book. It's like now you can read Henry's book Go to Barnes and Noble and read a murder diary. That would be good

[00:36:36] All of the interactive elements and it like tells you how to buy a gun illegally Like we talked about in the Aquaman episode there's a book that's like my journal by Arthur Curry age 13 Yes, like being an Aquaman is tough

[00:36:49] This guy will I'm defo who I think his real name is William Right keeps coming to the beach and teaches me how to spin a trident

[00:36:56] Like once a year and only one lesson and then I asked him about my mom and he's like, oh, we'll talk about it later I gotta go in again Shockbait No the misparagran we got it

[00:37:13] We got to acknowledge that she runs a home for peculiar children. You got a hand it to her You know, but okay, so you said the book is different. This is right. We I wanted to conclude book time the books pretty different Okay, so what do we got?

[00:37:24] I mean apart from fire girl is more prominent It's been a lot of time not in the home for peculiar children Which is the first thing that kind of turned me off sure It's a lot of him looking for the home for peculiar children

[00:37:35] It's a lot of him just being he has like going back and forth is in this movie. He finds it by yelling at a bird It's a bird Hey Don't poop on us. I like how on dad. I was joking

[00:37:52] When you tell by the change in my tone I'm sorry. I just had to like that's the moment for me where I go like fuck this is gonna be a problem Not Improving it's supposed to be sad sack sullen like energetic

[00:38:06] Well, right? He's supposed to go from being like Maros about his grandfather a little excitement about maybe they're gonna solve the mystery Making the joke about the bird and then having to reassure his dad that he was only joking and everything sounds like it's max peak

[00:38:22] I do like when they first see the bird he's his dad is like it's a peregrine Falcon He's like oh like miss peregrine like he's never heard of a peregrine Falcon in his whole life before It's only peregrine shouldn't have said anything. I know what that is. I

[00:38:39] Read the my side of the mountain. So is the books less sort of like propulsive then What sounds like it's very Like YA origin in right where it's like let's explain everything

[00:38:54] Here's an in-brain and here's the history behind that right and here's what the hollows are and here's the connect And it's just a lot of that stuff. Sure. See I there show down in blackpool

[00:39:07] No, they don't go there. There's a show down in a lighthouse. The end is completely different So you think Tim Burton was just like Circus Like excited me about this movie when it was announced what I was coming out was that Jane Goldman wrote it

[00:39:23] Sure, and I think Goldman's really smart and we've talked about on this show like Tim Burton Admittedly says like I don't really know how to tell a story. I don't know the difference between a good script and bad Script, I know the types of things that interest me

[00:39:34] So he works best when someone else is making sure that the script is good and then they hand it off to him Sure, and he'd like gotten into John August rut like he was working with August

[00:39:43] Oh, yeah, I was like maybe new writer will breathe some fresh life in him She seems like a good person to adapt this even if the book is kind of shapeless

[00:39:51] Maybe she'll be able to find a narrative in it and he only signed on I think off of the script So I was like man. This is like must be a big

[00:39:58] But it's not such a big property that it's like built in you must really like the material And then you see it and you're like was anyone excited about this when they were making it? Probably not Eva green

[00:40:10] Eva green. She's probably excited to wear like dark blue hair for you see And she just stands and gets a vacation the Welsh countryside actors talk about like the Urgency and objective in scenes, you know, like what's what's my want? What's my motivation here?

[00:40:29] Do you think the Butterfield missed that? Maybe Presentation like I'm not one of those people who like every scene I like take out the like colored pencil and go like this line is based on this and that I try to be like a little more intuitive about it

[00:40:43] But every time I've watched a scene of something I'm in that I think is really bad I go well, I didn't figure out what I wanted here. You know, it's not usually a didactic cross-history But I'm like it's non-specific. I didn't have something driving me

[00:40:55] Right, but you go like if someone had just kept in the backseat the whole time like my grandfather was the only person Who I understood? Yeah who understood me and this is driving everything I do and you felt that

[00:41:05] Watched him die with no eyes that was traumatic, right? You can be ripped apart by a thing. Yeah If you had someone play that emotional honesty and urgency I think this film automatically becomes a gentleman sex it becomes a bit of a shrug

[00:41:20] But you go like yeah, but it's like whatever it's kind of nice world building whatever the book is a lot like that actually And I think that's why the beginning takes so long is because you have this set up of this kid who is like

[00:41:31] Not only like I mean like in the movie He's barely traumatized by all this because he's like yeah, I gotta you know do all this other stuff But that also feels like the performance wise. I mean it's like right You're saying they're the book and he has like

[00:41:43] Yeah, right because there's that scene where also Janie's like clearly you're like suffering post-traumatic stress He saw a terrible thing and he's like I know I just can't get over it. Yeah, there's no

[00:41:53] Dad we have to go to this house. We have to my life depends on it Chris. Our dad's also The first introduction of him is he's watching TV and he like flips over He's watching a horribly violent nature documentary with birds tearing something apart

[00:42:07] And then as his child leaves the room he changes it to sports But the motivation of his character is that he's like a bird watcher, right? He is really into birds, right enough to go to Wales from Florida, which can't be like the easiest trip

[00:42:22] You write his book about birds When they show up in Rupert Everett's like I'm going to take a picture of a bird and he's like well fucking This whole trip was for naught

[00:42:34] You also go if this movie is set in London the idea of them going to the countryside is less insane And also the actors can use accents closer to their own Yeah, but I think they're very they really want Sam Jackson to have that Florida line. Yes

[00:42:47] I mean, I don't know what other reason there is but they wanted to be like And Kind of thing but I guess yeah, because like Chris O'Dowd. It's like okay the best version of this character is Alan Ark and an Edward Scissorhands

[00:43:04] It's like a oblivious dad who doesn't understand all the weird stuff and just has his own interests But he's done in a way where you're like is this guy like

[00:43:12] Suicidely depressed. I have no beef with Chris. Oh dad. I like him a lot. I enjoy him and things I'm a big fan, but Chris O'Dowd sometimes bad Sometimes sometimes maybe most people are sometimes bad. I

[00:43:26] Think he has a would you say he works a lot Chris O'Dowd? Yeah, would you call him a guy who maybe like pops up in a lot of movies and you're like, hey It's Chris O'Dowd. I feel like he's a guy where

[00:43:36] Bridesmaids was so huge and there was maybe a clear track for what he could have done Is he Irish and bridesmaids? Yes. So that's one where they were maybe Trying the accent and they were like, you know what exactly just do your thing

[00:43:49] He says I worked really hard my American accent and they said it's fine Do the thing that makes you the most comfortable and you can be the most funny and charming. It's like oh, he's charming

[00:43:56] Right an Irish cup and he's so charming in that that I think people were like Oh is he gonna be like the lead of his own apatow movie

[00:44:02] Is he gonna be the love interest in every romantic comedy is this or that and he's talked a lot about trying to like play against The expectations of the type of roles that he was in line for right and now he just does a lot of little stuff

[00:44:13] a lot of little stuff he's in like Get shorty Get shorty right the Travolta It's a crackle original. Yes, it's a no no it's epics epics I was literally like what is it? It's epics. It's epic. It is indeed. He is indeed

[00:44:32] The Travolta. He's the gangster who's trying to enter the film industry and Romano is The hackman right now to be fair Gene Hackman is incredible and get shorty because you're like Gene Hackman plays the neboshi producer

[00:44:46] Yes, and he totally nails it. Yeah, so I guess you could just sort of think like well who knows? Yeah, we'll cast against type Fine. No you haven't yes. I know one's ever seen that show. I know one person who's seen that show It's the character Bosch yes

[00:45:03] Yeah, what if these shows are only watched by fictional characters from other shows that don't exist like the cast of Animal Kingdom Can't wait to watch What was the show Nick Nolte was on graves graves you have no idea how hard I tried to get cast in grave

[00:45:20] I was like no you roll yes I want I was like I could spend six months just following Nick no It's probably three right 47 episodes season That was no tease one demand only do it we're doing the 1090 I

[00:45:42] Epic's 20 episodes 20 episodes they got no I want to do that show really you wanted the Chris Lowell row No, I wanted the what's his name the Nick Nolte role? Graves I'm off for only for graves

[00:45:58] Mr. It's a rast oh right yeah, he plays the assistant. Yeah, you're kidding. No I reviewed graves I think So you watch graves I watched whatever they gave me I think it was you know two to three episodes

[00:46:15] Okay, look I wrote a whole review of this show. I don't remember now the easy political escapism of graves kneeling it Because he's like a Republican that's the joke He's like the Republican party is bad. I now realize this yeah

[00:46:33] He's having like a late in life sort of reawakening yes It was about Trump Before Trump I got I came right as Trump was happening. Yeah, here's a really tough question How do we talk about this movie? All right here we go

[00:46:51] Terence stamp he's been telling these stories. Thank you. Yeah, and he dies he gets ripped into a thousand pieces His eyeballs getting yeah, it's a nice man. He has said for a stamp. Oh shit Yeah, the police were like I don't know

[00:47:06] That's what they do sometimes their eyeballs fall clean out of their socket with no blood dogs are mad and they bite eyes out Right. Yeah, right. That's what they're Um and so Jake Jake the ace of Butterfield character

[00:47:21] Inconsolable deep in therapy. He looks upset very upset decides to go to the Welsh countryside With his dad because he's studied all of his grandfather's papers and he keeps on referencing a home Right, and also his dad his grandpa says something like you have to find the loop

[00:47:39] Standing stones in the book. It's a little bit different. I hate to be the way in the book person but like that's Bring your book expertise He's his thing is like a lot more cryptic which I thought was kind of funny in the movie

[00:47:51] And how he sort of like it makes a little bit more sense Sure in the book. It's like find the bird in the loop like something He's basically like so you're gonna go to Cardiff and then you're gonna get on the a395 There's a jeweler's loop

[00:48:16] You look through it to find the loop. I mean that's like another element of this movie That's like oh that's kind of fun in theory that it's like a Brigadoon Well, that's the thing okay he gets on a boat he shouts at a paragraph

[00:48:34] Dave antics and whales with two Welsh rappers bunch of dead sheep Yeah, a pub that where they're mean I mean kind of gray and grim Blind man tells him that all the kids died in the house and a bombing right so he's like

[00:48:48] No one was here I guess we should leave World War two But this movie also invokes the Nazis a lot in a weird way sure he's like there your grandfather was peculiar The book is kind of He was what the Polish considered

[00:49:06] Did have to live in a house so weird house, you know someone's basement But no isn't that the book hits this harder I think but it's sort of like That's the explanation for why Terry stamp is so weird is that well?

[00:49:20] He's a Holocaust survivor coping mechanism tales of monsters and right, you know, it's really just You know Certain kind of monster maybe to him they seemed like they eat eyeballs So the He gets taken through a portal in the cave obviously

[00:49:40] Yeah, I mean it could just as easily be a mistake that he stumbles upon them and she's literally like oh yeah Miss Perrin heard you yelling at her so here we go and they're all surprised they weren't looking for him

[00:49:50] It's not like finally we've been waiting for you to show up She's like he must be dead because if he was alive, he would have warned me that you were coming exactly But what she heard so much about what he doesn't tell her

[00:50:01] Which maybe he could have is that his eyes were eaten out of his skull any insight on that because that remains The most mysterious aspect of the death what he does tell her is pretty normal

[00:50:12] I don't know what he does tell her is wow this place is incredible Yeah, what do you know tell her is like you guys have like a bathroom? I've never seen so many peculiar children. I can't believe it

[00:50:21] Like two or three at a time like 20. Yeah, you have two sack boys The sack twins now the sack twins are not in the book correct. Uh, no, I don't think so I think there are little twins, but I don't think they do what the sack

[00:50:34] I was looking it does the book have photos in it It does yeah, yeah, I do a little leaf and the coolest part of the thing. I know is inspired by photos. Oh, but there are a lot of okay

[00:50:45] It's fun they break up the action, you know, yeah, I mean I would have got this so would have been my jam I thought it looks like design of some of the peculiar children was kind of interesting

[00:50:57] I mean the fact that they're all just one yeah, they were they're not really Characters but the imagery they have like some of the photos I think they don't have anything Yeah, the dog body

[00:51:09] You see how someone brings in these photos and goes but Tim Burton's doing it Yeah, and you're like sure a hundred million dollars, but that's the thing where I'm like in 2002 I'm like sure a hundred million dollars in 2016

[00:51:20] I'm like is Tim thinking about doing anything else, but I guess we should acknowledge this is post big eyes Mm-hmm, so maybe it's his classic thing of like well I tried to do something else and then like it so I guess I'll do Tim Burton bullshit

[00:51:34] I'll do Tim Burton X right that's what it feels like who's your favorite look Ben you were saying you like the looks well I just I my favorite is the girl with the

[00:51:44] Mouth behind her head. She's great. I love her and I thought that's such a cool design But there's literally nothing to the character like one. Oh, I need a turkey leg

[00:51:53] Well, one thought I had is what if the mouth behind her is like another personality that's like like a venom or something You know like I would be funny. That would be funny dynamic cute girl and like weird dark

[00:52:06] Dynamic is just she doesn't want people to see her weird head mouth. Yeah. Yeah, right I think it is called a back mouth in the book. There's like a turn for it. Oh, she's got a back mouth This guy Got a back mouth

[00:52:20] It's just like such a brutal mix of like this film has no urgency and they hired an actor who was like Who have we got we've got come on that big carrot girl we have she can make things plants big lung lady lungs air air

[00:52:40] Constantly in there like a like like she's just constantly floating up. Well, she's It's weird that like she's like control air but then like if she doesn't wear the shoes she'll float away forever That seems weird to me

[00:52:55] She has to wear the iron boots from Ocarina of Time That's a good poll I agree. Thank you for that David Thank you. You have the dream projector boy who much like Ben is into fashion Another one where I'm like He's

[00:53:14] No, I want to know more about this kid Yeah, well because it's like there's mouth girl. That's like what she well sheets to Turkey legs with a yeah, okay What what's this kid? Oh he can see the future and project it?

[00:53:26] Let's check in with him or off. Sure, you know cuz Eva green is like it takes her a fucking week to be like Wait, you said some his eyes were taken out. Oh, that's actually a thing with us

[00:53:36] We should have you know, maybe brought that up this movie feels like it's on ambient where it literally Movie itself has delayed reaction times wait a second. What is it? Well remember like four scenes ago

[00:53:54] Perkins whole vibe is like it's chill here very chill calm to a fault we have dinner We go on a walk and then before the bomb drops on us. We all put on our gas masks and turn back

[00:54:09] We're perpetually stuck in the rise of the Nazis and a bombing but we don't worry I'm like, hey, I'm stressed out. I'm eternally 13 and this is scary Yeah, she's like, you know, why are you talking so loud at dinner when we're trying to eat our big carrot?

[00:54:26] Right somehow this house is like the goth margaritaville Lay back eat a turkey leg. We're in no rush. Oh wait, you have to go catch a bird Yeah, go do that then you could come back and sit around

[00:54:40] Man, so there's the twins is there anyone else that I'm forgetting the plant girl from sky high There's the strong girl. She's small but strong. Oh, yeah, she's strong Bronwyn. She's a bigger character in the book What's my call it? There's a naked invisible boy

[00:54:56] Really weird running gag, which is that he's constantly naked Fucking dick just rubbed up against me. My problem is not these naked when he when he sits on the couch I'm like put a towel down Like bouncing on the couch like that's a naked boy

[00:55:13] That's weird, but this is the thing it's like The movie occasionally will have a note like that where you're like, this is a little Weird like this is a little R rated for like the eyes especially Yeah, I don't know how many PG-13 movies have people eating

[00:55:30] Scared the bitches yeah, I'm eight years old and I'm seeing this. I'm like excuse me like a pile of eyes Right like that Oh shit, right, there's something else to where I was like, how do they sneak this by?

[00:55:44] I can't remember what it is that what we've got to keep talking The slender man looking great Everett Butterfield Odoud Jenny ever it fifth bill Yes as the second alias of Samuel Jackson right who has no proper name. No doesn't do anything I mean whatever

[00:56:04] Stamp and then pernell Uh-huh, then I think it's with Judy Dench and Samuel Jackson. Yeah, so there nothing happens for a while For a long while. There's the I guess there's the um revelation that there's a dead boy upstairs Yeah, mm-hmm. There's the bird

[00:56:22] And then they're like we should give the bird to miss Peregrine and then go cuz Right, he's like dad right. She's sort of like feeding the bird sugar water or something The dad loves birds so much that he's happy to stay here

[00:56:36] And he believes that his son is just hanging out with other kids Right time period and maybe killing sheep So he keeps on like extending the trip which is just like this feels like a big trip to like chunk out of their lives

[00:56:49] He also though doesn't work and he's an alcoholic right and Doesn't put judgment on that is no really do anything about that Mom and I can't really say like right Kim. I can't wait my job

[00:57:02] Right once you have to go take him just two three lines if I were Kim Dickens Sending Chris Odoud and Asa Butterfield off to a Welsh countryside I'd be like you cannot murder suicide each other right because both of you seem to hate being alive

[00:57:19] You have no will to live Yes, sort of like wide awake Trudges around that movie like he's a like basically like where did I put the gun that I was gonna shoot myself with like you know He's like checking drawers like is it here need to catch spider-man

[00:57:37] And then Eventually we get an explanation on what hollow guests are sure yeah who killed Terence stamp after she's like We I don't want to talk about it. Yes, she's like he's like asking a bunch of questions

[00:57:52] Like you've the rules of my house on my quota has been filled exactly She's a little too chill But she is kind of professor XE because the professor X is kind of like that too. He doesn't really say much Yeah, and then what are hollow guests slender man

[00:58:12] It's slender man with spike arms. I guess that is the best way to put it Yeah, it's like the clover field monster. I mean, they're like sort of mid-sized clover field monsters Wash Really is just like 1940s creepypasta Mm-hmm

[00:58:29] I mean that's essentially how we wrote this book where he was like I'm gonna find like a state sale creepypasta I wonder like publish it. I wonder who was the person who was like hey Tim

[00:58:37] Have you heard of the slender man the new trend sweeping the teens of today, right? Slender man romantic comedy But you go like not most lender man find his slender woman not to overpraise Johnny right But in the early stage great sartani sentence

[00:58:59] In the oil part of his career the reason why they work so well together was that Johnny Depp was also So afraid of playing generic leading man roles. Uh-huh so that he would sort of play against the hump

[00:59:08] Yeah, of you know, especially something like sleepy hollow where you're like paper that character could be like really boring And he comes up with his own like energy and characterization for it bear And he Tim Burton there are parts of his career work with so many like

[00:59:22] Actors who came out of like sketch comedy and things like that, you know Where it's like he wanted people who could make like creative acting choices like unexpected acting choices comedic actors even for dramatic parts and

[00:59:36] Then in this you're just like why isn't anyone trying to be funny? Why isn't anyone trying to shade anything put any dimensionality into it, you know I don't know because Tim Burton is not a very connected director anymore, and he wasn't engaged with this project

[00:59:53] I mean sorry, but it's just a paycheck project. Maybe I mean the buck stops there right? It's like sort of like what are you doing, bro?

[01:00:00] So much money that's just like I just feel like maybe he's just like I don't want to get out of the house for a couple days It feels that way right shot London where he lives or lived

[01:00:10] Right, and I mean you know if you believe the reports around this time. He's dating Eva Green Yeah, right Harder have split up. Dark shadows is the baton pass right is the rumor. Yeah, Eva cheese

[01:00:24] You're you're you're sort of like what are you doing? Yeah? I mean Tim Burton? I don't know. Maybe he draws you a holo gas like will you be my Valentine?

[01:00:33] I don't know hard eyes the whole gas looks like some Tim Burton concept art. Yeah, he had in his notebook, right? Sam Jackson certainly looks like Tim Burton concept art It I hate the concept of the Holocaust because the concept is that they are peculiar

[01:00:48] They're peculiar, but Sam Jackson wanted to do an experiment. Yeah, what was the experiment to live? I guess yeah, and then like it was one of those experiments where it's like this is either gonna make us live a long time or

[01:01:03] Into 15 foot tall slender man with spiky teeth That's what happened To know Miss Peregrine's like but of course then he figured out if you eat eyes you turn back into a person except you have like white eyes

[01:01:21] Yeah, what kind of trial and error process were the monsters going through here where they were like is it the spleen which part nope How many people were involved in the experiments? How many holo guests are there?

[01:01:36] It's I just don't like a world that doesn't make sense. You know, I like rules love and these are bad rules Yeah, I don't fucking get it and if you were like well the movie is not that concerned with rules

[01:01:45] But it's such a thrill ride. It's a tight 90 minutes Full of visual inventiveness a fun comic energy you'd be like fine. It is what it is. It is not what it is It feels like five hours it feels longer yes Perik perik grand

[01:02:07] Perik grand Alexander yeah, um when you saw the running time. I was like oh, it's only 127 minutes. I thought it was like a hundred and you know two hours and a half I remember it just

[01:02:18] Bragging yeah, yeah, I mean I did watch it when I was wedged in a boulder. So maybe that was part of which might have Yeah, no one would enjoy a movie in that situation. No so He gets found out

[01:02:32] Yeah, he basically brings ever it's been sort of tailing him they bring he brings the bad guys back Right, but I mean it's sort of not his fault because he would he had been masquerading is Alice and Jenny

[01:02:43] It's also one of these movies where you go like why is any of this happening now? Like they have been so comfortably like living in this loop for decades and of course like every once in a while Someone loses a couple eyes

[01:02:56] Right, but like this movie like doesn't go like this is the final showdown like it has come to a head You've arrived just in time. The war is about to begin

[01:03:05] No, it's like if you want to stick around then maybe you'll be able to help us fight some of these things Sometimes they come Sam L Jackson entering it literally is sort of like an annoying house guest

[01:03:14] Right even green still like I see yeah, she keeps like talking over him and his expression is so strange Yeah, I couldn't figure out like what he was feeling. Yeah, well

[01:03:24] He has these white eyes too, which are kind of throwing you out looks good. I think it looks pretty good I think Sam is fun Delivering

[01:03:37] But he's sort of doing this thing where he's like really hung up on how like look I was gonna get Terrence stamps address Yeah, this is a dress out of him the old-fashioned way

[01:03:46] But my colleague ate him and you're like who cares and he's like I just want to be clear I'm more of a finesse guy And then I have this monster around right that eats people

[01:03:58] He's doing the good cop. It's got it again in a second scene. He's doing the good cop I eating cop routine I like to just sit down coffee talk my partner here. He might eat your eyeballs

[01:04:09] I'm gonna eat your eyeballs, but later like I don't and then he keeps going I'm dying you before I eat your eyeballs keeps going like children get over here and Eva greens like Absolutely not you'll never speak to my children that way children get over

[01:04:23] It's like a whole extended bit yeah, any some other fields just sort of standing there standing But you hear all these things I mean, I don't want to just like keep on harping on it But it does come down to this thing of just like you know

[01:04:37] Different directors. I feel like it's always interesting when like people ask the dumb sort of like mirror Rorschach test question directors where it's like what do you think is most important that director does? Yeah, cuz some directors will be like it's all about performance

[01:04:51] Some directors will be like I hire actors to do what they want to do I'm about creating the environment in the world or whatever, you know Like the conan brothers always say like it's just tone management directing is making sure everything is syncing up on tone

[01:05:02] Well a lot of it I think is truly just energy like you feel the energy of the filmmaker and the energy They're putting into the film when they're working on it

[01:05:11] And when you edit it together and you hear all these stories where like directors say like the first time you watch your first Assembly cut of any movie you think you're a fraud. It's a disaster

[01:05:21] And you want to retire because it's like filled with all this dead space or all these things you don't need It's shapeless. It doesn't have any sort of like pepper rhythm to it

[01:05:29] And this one feels like he watched the first cut and he was like yes, so we can print this And even like Elfman's kind of like apathetic to it, it's not Elfman It's not who is it Mike Higgum and Matthew Right There's Zimmer acolytes

[01:05:49] Yeah, so they're only right they're too peculiar children actually there. They're the twins They're only two brothers without the movie score comes out Ben scores It's Edward because they got a fight after night man

[01:06:02] He wanted to play Jack Skellington and they only let him do the songs and Chris Sarandon of course Was Oscar nominated for his turn best actor as Jack Skellington

[01:06:12] So then they get in a fight and Howard shore does the Edward score, which is great. Why doesn't Elfman do this movie? I mean maybe he was busy with like more important shit like he's doing the Dumbo scores

[01:06:22] Not like they're in a fight now like also when you read interviews with the two of them I think we all like we all like the Burton heads like you and a few other people

[01:06:32] Right want to believe that like these guys were like best buddies. No apparently they're like, yeah You know what like I think when he has a new film He calls me and I come in and I do what I can well

[01:06:42] But that's the other thing about Burton is he's kind of like get everyone that I usually work with recalling I mean Bruno Delbanel shot this he's a great cinematographer Uh-huh, and I don't know how many times he has worked with Bert now like six or seven

[01:06:54] Is it a big fish? Why couldn't I say that he didn't shoot big fish. He didn't know who shoots big fish I don't know a fish or something. I think it's better than I don't think so. I'm gonna look it up

[01:07:06] Okay, look it up Davey look it up Davey Philippe Roussillot another Frenchman. Okay, that's why I was getting confused. No he shot Right because pretty good shadows. Yeah, and then big eyes and then this okay didn't shoot Dumbo though

[01:07:22] So it was a three-film collaboration. Roussillot shot the couple before that he's into like his French Sure sort of a jeunet type. Well, it's the thing is like Delbanel shot

[01:07:36] I like that yeah, who's shooting Ben Davis is shooting Dumbo wait what the fuck didn't Elfman do this movie Was it just I mean busy? He did a age of ultra. I'm like, you know, and due to complete lack of interest I'm trying to find out

[01:07:54] Composer around this time he got he works a lot We're talking to Elfman Elfman fuck was doing a the blacklist score for one episode That's why I couldn't do this

[01:08:06] He did age of ultra the year before he did four scores. Okay end of the tour one was the seven years ago That was good, I thought the same thing Gonna give him a good card is there some kind of yeah?

[01:08:21] Hell, let me see if I can find one of these. Yeah, here we go. There's a good card This is just a Valentine's Day I'm glad like great. Thank you for asking of course. I need one a few days like a week late, but whatever

[01:08:35] No, it's cool. It's fine. He did the end of the tour 50 shades of gray Avengers age of Ultron on goosebumps I mean four classics. Yeah, and then in 2016 he did before I wake Alice through the looking glass

[01:08:47] So he's busy with the non-burton Alice and girl on the train Shrug maybe just apathy. I don't know sure You know if a girl was on a train. What if there was a wife? Could you put in a walnut

[01:09:10] But I want to announce it here. Did you see this go ahead someone was asking if Jonathan Price's walnuts is a blender No, you're right and it's not it's the opposite It's what you think is a blender, but then it it's actually

[01:09:24] The walnuts matter right so the piss jar and bvs is a walnut That's a walnut the walnut and the wife is a walnut at first It seems like a pointless character quirk and then it ends up being an important quote unquote part of the story

[01:09:37] Sure, but it's maddening Emma Stefanski. Yes It's time for you to weigh in the wife I watch it. Do you do you take? I'm never getting married because of the wife because of the wife. You don't want to end up like that

[01:09:54] I don't want to be that. I mean, it is true that all wives are like that Write books for their husbands if that's what husbands can put their name though. It's I mean honestly It's a barric tradition. Sure. It is Western society is really broken. Yes truly

[01:10:08] Yeah, that movie is bad That was funny I'll talk wife with chopper. Yeah, right? I'll do it wife wife episode wives only So the wife no, I just remember you were watching her recently and I watched it piece of shit. It's boring

[01:10:23] I was talking to better or worse than peregrine Better than peregrine because the wife is short The wife is like is the wife short 90 minutes something like that. I mean what like 5 1 5 2 how tall it's one The wife is an hour and 41 minutes and Glenn close

[01:10:41] I've taken is a sturdy 5 5 Well, a tall lady how tall is a big green the most beautiful one I've ever seen in person She is 5 6. Oh, she's got an inch on her

[01:10:53] I remember meeting a kid at a high school party who told me that Eva green was his babysitter growing up And it actually made me angry was it a French kid

[01:11:02] No, he was like my mom is like French and she was like living in New York for a little while And so he was like oh you can like live with us. You get babysitter. Hello. Yeah, I can't do her

[01:11:12] She's a very specific American accent like you know She does this sort of bright British. She kind of effected right James Bond. I can't do James Bond Gotta put some fry in the Vespa

[01:11:26] I love Eva green she I covered. Yeah, I remember the golden compass red red carpet golden compass red carpet the golden carpet I was she was just one of those people where I was like my god

[01:11:36] Like looks like that in real life like I can't believe it your eyes kind of she's like so striking Is she your number one like that? Celebrity really is stunning in person 100% who would yours be so you know who my number two is

[01:11:49] You have someone where you're like wow they who Colin Firth Where I was like Jesus this guy's like more charming in person like I can't believe it

[01:11:58] I'm getting lost in him. There's that thing where you meet certain celebrities or you see them in person and between their like charisma And their looks you're like you actually don't even come across that well on screen

[01:12:10] Cooney is someone like that like he is like a movie star. You know is weirdly that for me James McAvoy I was in Elevator James McAvoy once and I was like wait a second Charming guy I've ever seen

[01:12:23] The guy was so hard and all he was doing was hitting a button in the elevator Wanted right and see he's one of those guys where you're like Oh, you're like kind of like really hot actually like your eyes are stunning infinity pools

[01:12:37] Yeah, do you have an answer? I don't think I've ever talked to like a hot person before. I don't know Come on Classics like a Superactors love I mean, let's see. Well, I do have the one interaction

[01:12:54] I've had with kid Harrington where he walked into a hotel during tiff and there was like a standee poster of him Pointed to it and looked at me and was like that's me And then he left the room Which is what I would do that

[01:13:08] It was really sweet. Yeah, it was like oh you're so cool. He's very tiny right? He's pretty sure Boy, you're a tall person. I am. I'm not a small person. I've heard he's smaller than me really yeah He looks like a tall

[01:13:22] Guy I think because he's like proportions. Yeah, yeah, right Rachel McAmze I had that with Uh-huh where I was just like oh you you photograph poorly Like I think you're a beautiful person when I yell at her like why are you so unattractive in movies?

[01:13:38] Yeah, do you know how gorgeous you are? I was I just called up every cinematographer who had ever worked with her and I was like What are you doing wrong? I've just had a lot of interactions with actors where I'm like

[01:13:47] Oh, yeah in person you look like a little bird like you look like this sort of like very fragile small thing Right and you're like they are all really small. Yeah, they're small. They're small people right when I meet a tall celeb I'm like Jesus Christ

[01:13:59] You're really yeah, I mean you're taller the two of you are taller than like everyone in holiday Who's tall Liam Neeson the scars guards are tall the stars guards are tall sports niggers. So gorney is tall. Yeah

[01:14:10] Um, so Gorney is like six one, right? I don't know. Oh Jesus. I think we're just doing like high Gwendolen Christie's I don't know what you want to keep talking about miss Peregrine. They go to blackpool. There's some sort of a fight That part was fun Six five

[01:14:26] Vince Vaughn's big he's very big. You know what Vaughn is pretty good in this year Uh fighting with my family fighting with my family might playing at very low key like not doing the Vince Vaughn stuff I feel like true detective

[01:14:38] Somehow like saptim of like old school. Yeah, it's like gone I kind of like this new phase of like between that and like hacksaw ridge of Vince Vaughn being like, I'm just going to be the pill Yeah, right

[01:14:49] Like i'm gonna be the sort of like verbal antagonist for these characters rather than doing like the cool guy rat pack thing My dad my dad and Romley saw fighting with my family because my dad loves wrestling sure and That sounds good

[01:15:03] They were like this looks like a nice father daughter movie which they never do that anymore That's nice and they both came out and they were like, yeah the movie is a mess Vince Vaughn's really good The movie is unfortunately

[01:15:14] Not that good. Um, it has Florence Pugh and she's so fucking great That was the other thing and it just keeps like kind of like being like But let's check in with this other stuff and i'm like not interested. Where's Florence? Yeah, bring it back

[01:15:26] Please like what about her brother though? He really suffered because he didn't become a wrestler I'm like I came here for the movie about the person who became a wrestler

[01:15:34] Say I end the line for you kid. End the line. Yeah, that's a good scene. Yeah looks good. Oh my god It's also just like an ad for wwe though. That's the other problem

[01:15:45] Yeah, no it was written and directed by Steven merchant like it's like yeah very strict Okay, so miss peregrine turns to a bird goes in the cage and she goes off and the kids decide they're gonna save her

[01:15:56] But first they have to deal with one of those fucking monsters. They kill the monster He's really bad in the head with a really bad one across bow As the bomb falls on the house

[01:16:05] Yeah, it takes like four or five times whatever the house blows up the loop closes Right, uh, they go into the sunken ocean liner. The girl summons it out of the ocean

[01:16:16] I'm trying to just get us through this. Has shuddy dent still not come in at this point Oh, right. She came in and then she dies pretty quickly Yeah, she gets yanked out the window right it's acts almost like if that was done as like a comedic thing

[01:16:30] I mean, it's not funny, but it's just like there's nothing to it. She's like she's like kids lock up Lock the doors and windows. Okay. We're safe And then she just gets pulled out so dumb Yeah, uh, okay They go to the fucking

[01:16:45] Here. Yeah, and then we have that fun little moment of them fighting and actually doing something in this universe That's kind of interesting somewhat. Yeah You know what it reminded me of was uh, I Like came of age when like the spider wick chronicles were super super big

[01:17:02] Yeah, um and nikolodian made the movie of them and they basically just like mashed all the books together Which is a not a good or pro bad bad idea and the movie sucks

[01:17:12] That's what they always used to do that they'd be like, well, we don't know if we're gonna make a franchise Right. We don't like franchises. Yeah Let's put all the books into one movie Right

[01:17:20] And then the end of the book is just or the end of the movie is just like them the kids are like The monsters like allergic to tomatoes or something or vividly remember They put a bunch of tomatoes in a blender and like use it as a weapon

[01:17:32] Geez, um, which does not happen in the books the um, what's it called? We were just talking about it the Lemony snicket. Yeah, that's the first three in one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Which is why that movie is sort of episodic and

[01:17:48] Yeah, I still kind of like that movie, but it doesn't have an ending. It looks okay. I don't like it looks amazing Yeah, give it some credit Brad silverling Seems like an issue

[01:17:59] Incredible a bunch of people in 2016 see bones wet bones come to life. Did he put a heart into the bones? I don't know. It doesn't matter. I have like entrails. You see it in one like little second I literally feel like i'm falling asleep

[01:18:14] I'm like, well, also sounds like you were an insomniac who tried to watch miss peregrine last night I was but i'm also like it on my birthday nonetheless But uh, no less after watching elita. Yes, right in 4dx like I got like a lead into my corner

[01:18:26] I was like this movie. And you watched a lead in 4dx at like 10 45 p.m. Whatever. I saw a late night Happy birthday lead it to me. Yes. I was raging in 4dx and i'm like, okay

[01:18:37] Let me just go home go to sleep watch peregrine in the morning couldn't fall asleep I was like well, this thing will definitely put me to sleep right and instead it felt like chinese water torture

[01:18:47] We're like i'm tired and then but then like why is this not right? But then here I am in my head trying to remember the plot of the film And just trying to play it back in my mind is almost putting me to sleep

[01:18:57] I literally could fall asleep on this table right now for a super long movie not really that much happens very little I feel like our plot recap has not been that's why I truly think you could do a 95

[01:19:08] Minute version of this movie that wouldn't feel chopped down. It wouldn't feel like drona hex It would feel like this is the natural length of this film We cut out the five minutes of pausing in between each movement between each line Let me just take a breath

[01:19:25] Yeah, listen the blackpool thing which like blackpool is like Not that dynamic location. It's like england's jersey shore. It's like it's a boardwalk like that's what kind of like Sure. I mean, it's fine. Yeah What do they do instead of fist bump?

[01:19:42] People at the jersey store fist bump they do Dude, all right. You don't know about the jersey shore gtl Yeah, Jim t laundry. There you go. That's how it works in black. Well, Jim t long You just I was doing

[01:19:56] I was doing a mapping game. Thank you. Thank you. David. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Thank you, David. The end. Oh, thank you We missed a really important detail. How do you know so much about this?

[01:20:09] What is it black water? That speaks to how boring this movie is that we I'm talking about English countryside for an hour and a half. We didn't even have the energy to set that up We've said London multiple times so many times London. I'm from London

[01:20:25] I lost the will to bit this movie has made me lost the will to goof But so you're excited to do alzomondo in tomorrow Yeah, because I was wondering at least as like mad in it

[01:20:34] It's like a trap is crazy whereas this is like a gentleman's four, right? Like that's what this is right It ends with I don't fucking know they they kill them gasts

[01:20:49] They go down and talk to his grandpa at some point. Well, no because once he once they kill all the guys His grandpa's alive because the guys weren't there to kill his grandpa like it doesn't make sense

[01:21:01] Because baron what his name is baron? He's there in their time now after having been It's true Florida. It doesn't make sense. It wouldn't have impacted the timeline stuff makes no sense. No

[01:21:13] Um, it's because once the time loop closes shouldn't they all just like grow a thousand years I know the last like three the movie is like right you can kind of like grace period exactly

[01:21:23] Which is a bunch of bullshit and then he goes and talks to his grandpa and rather than being like I fucking brought you back to life. This is huge. I love you

[01:21:34] Terrence sam's kind of like go get her. Yeah, maybe you should leave and uh go find ghost girl There's like a montage of course he goes to japan and has like slicked back

[01:21:44] When many shows up and he's like you won't believe the journey I had I went from loop to loop And I'm like are the loops portals now like what would someone explain this to me

[01:21:52] This also gets to this thing where like you see these lay Burton movies and you're like Is the problem that now he's happy and he feels more content And so he can no longer make stories about outsiders with his heart in it

[01:22:03] Or is timberton more depressed than he's ever been Seems he seems down. Yeah. Yeah Um, I feel like only a depressed person could make a movie like yes I mean this film does kind of like

[01:22:18] Next to melancholia. It's the second best representation of like physical depression. I've ever seen yeah Um just by mistake like full body And direct yeah, right Um, I've been watching um empire games on netflix was just like about ancient civilizations

[01:22:35] And I just watched one about uh the first emperor of china Oh cool And so they talked about though the previous dynasties and how they would burn all of the paper

[01:22:45] All of the writings all of the culture like try to tamp that down because they're the new right We should burn this movie. Yeah every print everything that exists. Yeah should just not exist

[01:22:56] Yeah, I mean should get rid of this movie all right. Society started its downward trend when this movie hit theaters I don't know if it's that bad, but I just think that People across the the world burned burn this to the ground

[01:23:08] Maybe we need to go to the welsh countryside Find the house great go back in time right kill ransom rights, right Exactly stop the loop And then we get to return back to our present day with this movie never having been made

[01:23:21] I don't think that's gonna like what if we did that and then trump loses like we're like that was it This movie does come out like a month before he gets elected, but no it comes on september

[01:23:34] Yes, that means you're queuing up my me for the box office game september 30th 2016 everyone's favorite weekend this movie literally comes out five weeks before trump is elected sure It also comes out Number one in the box office with 28 million dollars on its way to 87 domestic

[01:23:54] Even like kind of an apathetic box office result. I don't know people went I guess right if it like opens a six you'd be like Wow, that's a flop. I know 50 be like it not over performed in 28 year like okay, so it made

[01:24:05] Uh 87 domestic but 296 worldwide his brand is still strong So, you know, it probably you know no one was probably that Sweating it too much like it probably broke even I guess yes made no see certainly no sequence. Yeah Number one number two is also a new movie

[01:24:25] Number two is also a new movie. Oh, I believe I know what this is. What is it deep water horizon? There you go. Didn't even need another clue people thought they would overperform people people thought deep water horizon would outgrow

[01:24:36] Paragraphs that that oil boy. I would have thought that yes, and then people were kind of surprised by how little deep water made These are some oily boys. It's true deep water. You know the problem was that people are not like

[01:24:46] Like you know like Patriots say or whatever it's like I get it. He's a cop I remember that like deep water horizon. It's like Remember the oil thing that blew up and they're like

[01:24:57] Like in all the posters we talked about it before was just them like covered in oil Yeah I'm gonna find it now because I love that one of Kirk. Um Kurt Douglas, uh, Kurt Russell. Kurt Russell. What the fuck is the matter with me? Yeah

[01:25:10] Um, no, but that movie costs like a hundred million dollars very expensive looks good looks really good. I think it's a good film Um, but uh, lone survivor had done so well. I'm so oily oily boys

[01:25:21] But lone survivor is like an america a proto american sniper like that movie doing that well It's like a first sign the tip. Yeah, dildo brian. I forgot he's in it

[01:25:32] I've got an oil on me. I saw him on the street a few months ago. How tall is he? He's so not short. I'm not tall. Gina, she's been oiled Yeah Let me keep going. Dylan was like talking into his Do they have a character per leaf?

[01:25:45] A poster for just oil that'd be good if it was just a puddle of oil. No, this is the best one Like a slick on the mouth Malkovich Malkovich Oil him up

[01:25:54] Do you think when he walked into this video that day he was like oil me up fellas Look at his purse lips. He's person him and then wallberg. Yeah, I mean, you know looks mad that he's oiled I got oil all over me

[01:26:07] Where'd this oil come from? All right, come on. We got another show number three Number three. Oh is another man has to record Henry Kissinger's podcast What number three another movie that doesn't exist from this like exact moment in time

[01:26:23] I think a lot of those trump like election movie, you know movies right around then the fall of 2016 people are like I don't like to think it was a simpler time because like Is then yeah, yeah, yeah like movies that just got swallowed

[01:26:34] One of the top 10 films of 2016 My nominee for best screenplay. I remember. Yeah, they're allied Good screenplay Allied in war allied in love. Yep Any other allies there? We'll slow this down allies for the lgbtq people

[01:26:51] Yes, of course that they they are they are big allies allies for the peculiar What about the plus an lgbtq plus there's a p there for peculiar Um Number three. It's a remake of a remake like you know star is born

[01:27:08] It's not a star is born. You can't deny that. That's a remake of a remake. I won't deny this is all that I could offer The screen make of a remake

[01:27:16] I'm denying what for right. Okay. There's also what price I would this is a remake of a remake Yeah, and um it stars a bunch of people Who are famous is this orian express? No, but you know, you're in that you're sort of in the zone

[01:27:33] So is it based on a book? Is it a franchise? No, no So they've just made the story three times But they never made sequels to either of the previous they have remade a famous movie

[01:27:43] And that famous movie which is from a long time ago was itself a remake of a different famous movie Oh, uh, Casper of spirit of begin correct incorrect. No the answer has been her incorrect really?

[01:27:53] I was talking about summer move. I remember being like a last week of august. Sure. But this is the last week of september Oh, I know what this is. Oh, it's magnificent seven magnificent a seven united the seven

[01:28:03] They united, you know, eithan hawk and denafrio and I forget who else is in that one I was gonna ask you go into a head if you could name two more of the set Why no pratt, you know pratt washington. I think sorry's guards the villain

[01:28:16] Yes, uh, you've got luke grimes and cam She can day Will buy on lee is that his name? Storm shadow from gi joe rise of cobra is in there

[01:28:28] Number four ever watched on a plane. It's so good. I think we don't we don't actually magnificent seven is good. No gi joe I think we need to like start the real like reappreciation of gi joe rise of cobra

[01:28:40] If you want to do it watch the gi joe movies in our scene, they're great Yeah, you want to do a summer's knee series Really? Oh really they want to do it. They've been wanting to do it for are those franchises aligned. Yeah, there has bro

[01:28:53] Oh, okay. They're both the same company. They've sometimes done crossovers But there's like a thing in gi joe rise of cobra where they make a suit that makes you run really fast It's like an exoskeleton that like goes like this. So they look like wind up toys

[01:29:09] Cool, it's great summers would be so cool out Bruce Willis plays gi joe We've talked about this. No, I've heard of this. Um Number four is an animated movie. Okay Just give me the name

[01:29:24] September of 2016. Is it a new release or is it a holdover from the summer? It's a holdover two weeks old Two weeks old. So it's an August. It's a bit of a flop and no, it's september 30th. Oh, right

[01:29:33] So it's from early september 2016. It's a bit of a flop. What's the fondomestic total 72? Bit of a flop kind of a flop But it's also about a flock Of birds Oh star storks storks. Yeah starks. Nicholas Stoller storks. Yeah, but also co-directed by uh

[01:29:52] Doug sweetland who is one of the best animators of the pics aren't they never let them direct a feature He's the um Presto guy or whatever it's called. Uh, is presto that was correct

[01:30:00] And he also did a lot of my favorite animation toy story too like woody's impression of uh, when they play woody's roundup You're dork Me? Yes, but that sounds wait when they play what I don't remember that there's a scene where we do our commentary

[01:30:13] And he comes out and he's doing his like It's a really good piece of character animation. Yes tips his hat Right, even I remember that right and then bullseye does the thing where his his saddle slides off

[01:30:25] And by the way, I'm not dork. I like to identify as peculiar Bullseye, I will say bullseye. Yeah We stan a legend you like bullseye bullseye because we've been arguing a lot about how just toy story doesn't work for you

[01:30:37] You just admit that you never know what I can do. We were talking about toy stories for we were talking the four the other day And you said I just don't I don't get these movies. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no come on

[01:30:47] I've seen the first one. You were besmirching the good name of forky I've seen well, right. This is what I'm talking about the new ones. I'm not the new ones to

[01:30:55] Well, the first one I saw I'm sure a few times second one. I owned and I've seen many times It's certainly the best one and then the third one of movies Speaking of uh-huh number five

[01:31:09] Number five at the box office is uh, let me just check my notes. Oh, yeah, the greatest film ever made. Oh boy I cannot wait to take a nap and I know exactly what this film is

[01:31:21] I I wish you hadn't given me that he knew because I knew from greatest film And of course the film is called sully. That's right. I spent my valentine's air. It was about to say can you recently rewatch sully My girlfriend was sick

[01:31:35] We were staying in for valentine's day really holding back. You can't say anything about it I know anything about it and we were looking through my movie collection And I was I was taking a shower. She was looking through my movie collection

[01:31:46] And I was like what do you want to choose like? I don't know I'm a friend anything And I was scrolling through and I was like I'm gonna make a joke. That's not really a joke

[01:31:53] I'm gonna say well like well, of course the best thing for when you're sick is to watch a little sully And she's like wait seriously because I okay

[01:31:59] I was gonna say it but then I was gonna couch it as a joke because I thought that you owned it ironically and I was like, um I once had a conversation with freedom is spelled s u l l y

[01:32:10] Let's wave the flag my friend. I once had your conversation a conversation with your girlfriend a loud bar Where I was like basically like like sully fucking rules. I love sully and she was like not a good movie

[01:32:20] Don't like it. Yeah, I was and like we were doing this for like five minutes. I was like, what are you talking about? Then I realized she was talking about tolly It was a loud bar and I was like tolly um Tully I could take early sully fuck

[01:32:34] She was so into uh sully and I was just like this is the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with sully is you see me and you see sully

[01:32:45] The moment where she turned to me and she's like the final set piece of this movie is them watching a simulation four times and I was like Yes Uh birds I've never seen sully. Oh my god. Sorry. This that's actually Erase this episode

[01:33:03] Then get the sully sully on the dv We're gonna sit here and watch it live You have five minutes I'm gonna put it on like that is the box. I'm speed some other movies we had of masterminds

[01:33:16] I mean real a real movies that don't exist zone, right? Oh, yeah, I forgot. I actually didn't forget I did not know that storks was a movie storks. Uh, I thought it was like a very well advertised picks our short

[01:33:26] Bridget jones' baby remember when there was a third Bridget jones movie. Yeah, just sort of came out. Yeah She had a baby. I guess so You gotta tell that story snowden. That's another one that doesn't exist. Is that the joseph gordon levin? Yeah, of course

[01:33:41] He never completed his trilogy Unnecessary remakes by fallen from greatness american directors of documentaries that won the oscar So you've got the walk in snowden. You're saying you should do it One more close it out, baby. Yeah, what are some recent academy award winners for documentary?

[01:33:59] Let's find the next joseph gordon Yeah, the other part of the the trilogy and it has to be directed by a fallen director Right the other part of the trilogy is he puts way too much effort into the accent that's distracting

[01:34:10] Exactly because his snowden voice is also really weird. Well, I don't see him playing government of spying on us I don't see him playing in me winehouse But if you did icarus, he could maybe be like lance armstrong or whatever right like I know there was already

[01:34:22] There and he put a lot on it He did he's actually trying in that movie because that movie kind of has He was like I had to take the performance enhancing drugs. I wouldn't recommend that any other actor does it

[01:34:33] But I don't know any other way I removed one of my testicles How about uh march to the penguins? He plays a penguin What else do we have in the last couple years? Amy icarus? oj made in america citizen for

[01:34:47] Start in short searching for sugar man. Could he be sugar man play sugar man? Is that how would that go? Not well you're saying We've got something inside job remember that one the financial documentary hello. It's me sugar man I heard you've been searching for me

[01:35:06] You just wanted to bust out your g I like writing songs, but I just do it for myself. I don't even care if people buy the albums They record hit record Hit record joe um we did it. We talked about fucking miss peregrine and next week

[01:35:24] We'll talk about dumbo. We did it and I can't wait to take a nap. I'm so proud of you dumbo next week I mean how we feel like this is I you know

[01:35:32] We still got a couple burdens left to do but we've been in this zone for a couple months now This film's a low point, you know, I'd say just maybe his second I don't know. It's one of those things where you go like

[01:35:42] It's better than alice in wonderland and that's less egregious, but also it's so much less compelling to watch If plan of the apes is definitely bottom of the barrel

[01:35:52] This is either better than the two movies you just named or three from the bottom. I think it's third from bottom Yeah, yeah Um, but you know most recent film so it speaks poorly and Who knows maybe dumbo will fucking rock the house and we'll all be laughing

[01:36:06] You know what? I think I know I do like dark shadows better than this because we're recording this in february So there aren't even any early reviews of dumbo. Yeah I like dark shadows better than this no question no question

[01:36:16] dark shadows is a mess, but it has like The problem with dark shadows is it doesn't make a decision about what movie it wants to be but at least has

[01:36:23] Five different ideas of what movie it could be very intrigued to find out what your Burton rankings are going to be in fact Interesting, you know what I mean because actually it's a lot of movies. There's a lot of potential for variants What's your favorite Burton Emma? um

[01:36:37] Probably Edward Scissorhands. It's a good call all of that movie commonly gentle man Snip snip snippy snips Big fish I've never cried so hard. Yeah, we have credit big fish. Yeah

[01:36:49] It gets me every time you gotta catch the fish. I gotta catch the crime. You got to reel it in Ben um Yeah You have more burdens to record with us, but this is the last Burton you're gonna have to do For the listener sure. Yes final thoughts

[01:37:07] So over it So over it Ben's gonna love our next so you're looking forward to penny marshal You'd like to change the pace of penny marshal. Yeah, sure I I've I love the early Burton sure like their masterpiece there they're they were they're nostalgic for me as

[01:37:25] As being a young person remember seeing them, but man he he's gotta stop. I don't know maybe it's gonna be good I hate all his late period movies. I've hated I'm big fishes like you know

[01:37:38] I was on the fence re-seeing it recently. Yeah, but then from there. I have a feeling I'm gonna hate allison wonderland and Charlie in the fucking chocolate factory. I think you're gonna like charlie. You might like charlie

[01:37:48] I think you're gonna like charlie. I think you're gonna like charlie. I think you're gonna like charlie Now I'm gonna say tim burton take a look in the mirror Right take a good long look at the mirror and stop making movies about childhood

[01:38:00] Yeah, but that also you go like he doesn't seem like he's that excited by making movies about childhood So maybe it's just that's what everyone offers him Stop making movies or stop making movies. I mean there's like you know, I don't love it

[01:38:12] But but the whole Tarantino like I'm gonna make 10 and then like retire sure is essentially a safeguard against this Like he's like I never want to get to a point where I'm just making a movie. Hopefully

[01:38:23] I agree with that. Is there anything bad about like there are tons of like old directors where it's just like Oh, he just died this year. I thought he died 20 years ago. Right. That's because they just stopped making movies 20 years ago

[01:38:33] Yeah, you gave it a rest. Yeah, give it a rest timmy. Yeah, I don't know maybe maybe fucking dumbo be here What if he opened a spooky sandwich shop? sandwiches I would like that you chop them with big scissors or something

[01:38:45] Yeah, I don't know is there like other stuff he could do They can have themed names of a gump more like Scissorhands Sandwich tree timmy scissorhams. Yeah. Oh, do you guys want to get a scissorhands sandwich free?

[01:38:58] You're back to your witchery Ben. I am that's a tease for future patriots literally for june. Yeah All right, well, we're done. Come on in now. I gotta pee. Okay. Okay. I Bye wait a second. Wait. No sit down sit down Attention must be paid

[01:39:18] Mr. Fansky, thank you so much for being here You're the best honor. Thank you for reading Mrs. Perrigan. You didn't read the other books. No, I just read that one Okay, oh quirk. It's a quirk. It's a it's quirky publishing house. Yes

[01:39:31] They did all the uh, isn't the same the pride and prejudice and zombies. I was gonna say all of those are quirk It's a lot of that take a thing that's public domain and rework it and then you own the ip

[01:39:41] Rowing my eyes tim Burton also produced a every ham Lincoln Vampire Slayer hunter because he was like that sounds like the kind of fun genre movie I would have watched on tv and then he saw it was like, oh, you're gonna make it like cool

[01:39:55] Like quote unquote cool right right like I think his thought was like oh, it's like David Carradine Yeah, or it's like what's it called billy jack meets the wolf man. You know some bullshit like that Right. He's like oh, it's like speed ramping He like

[01:40:10] Like what are you supposed to do? Tomorrow was like can you produce this for me? He didn't hire him. It was like team. Please help me I love speed ramping. Yeah, just being like putting some speed ramps in a suitcase and pressing it down

[01:40:23] Do you remember when like deadline every day was having like Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter. It's down to five finalists It was like Superman and abe lincoln vampire hunter were being cast at the same time and it was like Matthew good is taking himself out of consideration

[01:40:38] For Lincoln so he can double down on superman and then it was like ben walkers take himself out of superman So that he can be This movie that's gonna make eight dollars. Yeah, maybe movies don't matter. Well. Thank you all for listening Oh, you're right

[01:40:52] And you know what that will be reaffirmed next week When we love dumbo or at least we're like it's pretty good Well, no, you know why it has to be because 2019 is the year of only good movies every movie is great in 2019

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[01:42:12] Uh, i'm a beyond commentary. You live like next door to me. Yeah Oh, you live next to big nice. She lives real close to my house. Really? For sure true. Which is your favorite mcu movie?

[01:42:25] That's really hard question to answer Thor Ragnarok. Maybe come on Thor come on Thor because we don't love it Yeah, that's right. You can cheer lead. I love that movie. Well, you can cheer lead. Oh my god

[01:42:36] Okay, so look if that's not an exciting plug. I don't know what is Thor Ragnarok's good. Yeah, see now now we're getting into it. All right, cool Ben is giving me a death glare Uh, bill clinton is coming in next to record Uh

[01:42:55] No smiles blinking at me. He is telling me through morse code that he wants me to die His face is getting really red too And as always I can't wait to take a nap