Our Performance Review 3.0 with Chris Gethard - Revenge Of The Podcast

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello!

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello!

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just open this file. I've got something to review here. Oh my God, it's a performance review, David!

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's our annual performance review.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We can't do openings.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not good at openings.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We're really good at openings.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Griffin.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm David Sims.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, Griffin. David, present Revenge Of The Podcast, a mini series, an investigative mini series about George Lucas' third and final Star Wars movie.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: This is our performance review episode. Everyone's been waiting.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: People love the performance review episode.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Every mini series we weigh on, cast member by cast member, to answer the question definitively, is the acting good in this movie?

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: People go, ah, acting so bad in the Phantom Menace movies.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but you got to take it on merits, on balance. Every single guy gets a pass-fail.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Pass- every gal too.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Every creature. We're not joined or binary here, I'm Griffin, David, present.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I believe in both other movies where you decided the acting was bad.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was close.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It was too close for comfort both times. And this time I'm going to drop the hammer.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be real tough and unsparing.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I got very little sleep last night.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to fucking slam performance left to right.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hungover and I'm tired and sad.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing great.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We have a very special guest today.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Chris Gethard.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Chris Gethard.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, how are you doing, Chris?

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a comedian. He's an actor.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a hero of ours.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the host of the Chris Gethard show, right?

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: True.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But you are an actor.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I also am an actor, yeah.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean this is an important thing to know.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not an actor but you two are actors.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys have a perspective on this.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even think of that.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a critic.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm reviewing other actors.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to be very mindful of the craft.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course they're work and like you should be mindful of the situation they were in which was a tough one.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Context is important, you know, the environment.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you spent a lot of time on set.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You've been working a lot the last couple years.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been on sets.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've been on sets.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_04]: In multiple different capacities.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a set or two.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I've lingered around a craft service table or two.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But you've worked on big budget stuff.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You've worked on small budgets.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, yeah, I guess that's true.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you've been cut out of some very big budget stuff.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Just...

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You looked...

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you angry at me?

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that as a slam.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a fact.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You were on a very big budget set.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kind of...

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a sore spot.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Focus on the fact that you were cut out.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Literally two minutes into the podcast you just made our guest furious.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Cut out Iron Man 3.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not psyched about it.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not psyched about it either.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish you were in it but you were on that set.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I might get cut out of Ghostbusters next year.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You were on Ghostbusters?

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Who knows?

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That might be a good...

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that just called Ghostbusters or does it have a new...

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually not sure.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, does it even have a different title?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I actually don't even know if I was allowed to say that.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That might be a scluicy.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Or it might be something else.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a scluicy?

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That might be something cut out.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to our podcast.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_03]: How long is this?

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh you know, 90 minutes.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_01]: 90 minutes and Griffin behaves this way the whole time?

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This is maybe the best behavior I've been on in weeks.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Usually I talk about robot pussy and racist essays I wrote in Eidkrieg.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You only did that the one time but...

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Robot pussy's I talk about a lot.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Not that much this season because my favorite robot side piece is that.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I did want to ask you though Chris because this movie was mostly filmed on a green screen,

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: on a soundstage.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Almost entirely.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing, right?

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever been in that situation?

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Well I was cut out of Iron Man 3.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And was that that?

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was in a situation.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: My scene was all, I was in front of massive amounts of green screens.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know how in the Marvel movies they have those computer screens where people can

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_04]: just point at them and flick their hands and move stuff?

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, of course.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It was in one of those.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The sort of scientist business stuff.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I was playing a scientist who was giving a presentation and able to move all these

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: things around so the green screen was a big factor.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Don Cheadle was covered in ping pong balls.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So was he supposed to be in armor?

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that why he was covered in ping pong balls?

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's the motion capture balls.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And so how challenging is that?

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: We've never talked to someone who's been in that situation.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say it's actually very interesting.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I did not think about the fact that I've been in that situation.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It was only for two days that I was in that situation.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That might even be worse because the longer you do it probably the better you get at flexing that muscle.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I will say, I remember that it was very stressful because the director had,

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, my movements and where I was directing things needed to be like very precise

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and there were all these like minute adjustments that needed to be made.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It was very difficult and you know, you're in an environment where you're surrounded by

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_04]: green which is not always the most natural and like on a big budget thing.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like a lot of crew that, you know, they'd like to go home earlier rather than later.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta keep things going to get a lot of stuff to do.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to be there while a day player can't get it right where he's supposed to like

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: fling, you know, war machine's helmet to show him, you know, like on a screen.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was actually, I would say, I would actually go so far as to say extremely stressful.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Right and so that's the situation these poor guys were in every single day for God knows like, you know, months and months of shooting.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And just for the record.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And guys like you and McGregor have been doing this essentially for eight years.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Just for the record with that series of anecdotes now laid out in the table,

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: one could say that perhaps it was not only positive but necessary for me to invoke the fact that you're an Iron Man 3

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and not a rude move because I set the context for the entire episode.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think there's just maybe nicer ways to enter that situation.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_04]: He's looking for tacked Griffin.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you kicked open the door.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, you didn't show up at the party with like, you didn't like show up with a bottle of wine and ask if you should take your shoes off or not.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You kicked open the door.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You drove your car into the garage door.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Jeff Mangundi.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But this is my own car.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I know that.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: What's the Jeff Mangundi story?

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's the coach of the Knicks.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know who he is.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_04]: There's this amazing New York Times article and he's like kind of a legendarily stressed out looking man.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He looks like a really, really annoyed middle manager at some sort of accounting firm who's just like got a vein bulging his neck.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And just got bad news all the time.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like David Paymer.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Academy Award nominee David Paymer.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: A waspier David Paymer.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a fantastic New York Times article about him that kind of covers his background but looks at him as like he kind of is this stressed out sad sack.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: They reveal two amazing things.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: One is that when he loses games there's been two different times where he drove from Madison Square Garden to Westchester where his home was and he was so obsessively thinking about the game that he drove into his own garage door.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That happened twice.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But the best detail in it is that he one time was running late to catch a private jet that the whole team was on to go to a game and that he parked his car too close to the jet and when the jet took off it made his car explode.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And I forget what it was but like when he, when they talk about his car it was also like this was in like 1999 and he had like a 94 Camry or something.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like a car I could have afforded when I read the article.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He was a basketball coach when you read the article.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: He's the coach of the New York Knicks.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He's a millionaire.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: He's driving around in like a car, a used car and has blown up by planes.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's just so JVG.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's like yeah.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a great article.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah he's a great guy.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So the point of that story is you are an actor and you're going to be able to speak from your experience.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I definitely sympathize with the actors.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't want to judge anybody else's work without acknowledging that it was some extreme circumstances.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah and here's the thing we like to do okay?

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Just for a little context here sometimes we slam performance from an actor we love.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Actor we think has done good work before and actor we think went on to do good work after.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll acknowledge that.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll throw them some props.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll go I get what you were up against but just judged objectively this is not a good performance.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: We're not writing the actors we're writing this performance within this film and who was able to overcome the circumstance.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And are we just doing actor by actor the whole thing?

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Actor by actor.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_04]: What are we talking about the film overall?

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I mean that'll obviously lead us down a lot of paths.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I say something?

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: No let's I wanted to ask yeah you know just the movie in general.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll say in general I saw it in the theater.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: How many times?

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: One it's the only.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_04]: One in the theater.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So other ones you just you went back.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: The other two I had seen the first one I saw 14 times because I worked in a movie theater.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Right we I remember we wanted to get you on for Phantom Podcasts because you had had that unique experience.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah and that was bad and then Attack of the Clones I, Attack of the Clones I saw at least twice in the theater.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Revenge of the Sith I saw once and I'll say this it is better than I remember.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say that the good parts are actually good.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with that.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_04]: The good parts are a lot better than I remember.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a vital guest to have.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've been a little very negative in the last few weeks.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say the opening battle scene that opening space battle pretty rad.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I would agree in a way but also completely divorced from the rest of the movie.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's own movie that has like absolutely.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like an episode of a TV show almost.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like it's a movie extremes like the good parts I would say are actually up to the level of anything from what Star Wars has done.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying the podcast race?

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: The podcast race?

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You just said the podcast race.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh the pod race.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: The pod race.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't love the pod race.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh we like the pod race.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a fan of the pod race.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Griffin has talked to me about this off-off mic.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Is that okay if I reference that?

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: You have told me that the pod race actually holds up a lot better than it is remembered.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great sequence.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll use the word great.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the pod race.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There's another thing I've noticed too.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: From an oral perspective as well.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There's another very basic thing about watching Revenge of the Sith last night.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is something I knew but I don't think, you know, I had so much emotion watching them in the theater when they were out.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, the big conclusion of the famous Star Wars movie.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yeah.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I had watched the first one and the second one and everything had built to this.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But one thing that really rings out that such a simple fix that I think makes all three movies.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We love these.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: 20% better.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: If the droids are your bad guys, they should not all sound like assholes.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they should not all sound like total dorks.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is like...

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The worst thing to me is that they literally go uh oh and like uh oh.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like one part where in Revenge of the Sith and I would imagine free reign of spoilers, right?

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, oh yeah.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Spoiler-effic.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Like when Obi-Wan and Anakin go in to rescue the Chancellor and then those two big R2s hide now,

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: those two big droids come back and they're straight up like oh yeah, that's a Jedi, that's a Jedi worship.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So these guys are supposed to be fucking scary, make them sound...

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Well this is formidable.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: There's never any stakes when the Jedi are facing off with the droids which they do frequently.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_04]: They're completely disposable.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah of course it's just like oh let's deal with this like they're sneezing on them basically.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The Jedi just will you know but even R2 with his Inspector Gadget routine can shut down a few.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he can pee pee oil.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Make them slip.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And that...

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the greatest moment in this trilogy.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I would also say that when it lights on fire, it's actually weirdly grim and violent

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: compared to everything else that's ever happened in Star Wars.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a pretty grim movie right?

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It is.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Compared to the other two movies.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: There's some grim content in this movie.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked about this before.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, I don't know if it's thematically the way the scenes are set up,

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: if it's visually the way they're designed.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The robot deaths in this movie are a lot more violent than in the first two.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The deaths feel kind of gross and sad.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say this too.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I watched the movie and there were stretches where I got very bored and restless because of...

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, it's long.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah but I noticed they all involved specific actors which probably ties in well today to a performance review.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh definitely.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of stretches I was actually into it but I would also argue this.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_04]: If it ended...was it Order 66?

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Order 66.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: If it ended after the sequence that showed Order 66 and Yoda just went into hiding,

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_04]: if it ended with the thing where Yoda gets inside that little...

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Little Blaster Pod.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Cartoon Rocket, a little spaceship...

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: If that movie ended there, I would say that it might actually be a satisfying film.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's probably an hour of 45 in probably.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: There's another 30 to 40 minutes.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Because then you still got the whole Anakin...

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And them going back to the Jedi temple and all that stuff.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_04]: If it just ended with Yoda taking off, not a bad film.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Even darker though than the film we have.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be a film that was setting up another film.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be a film that was leaving you with some nice meaty cliffhangers.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_03]: What's gonna happen to Anakin?

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the completion of a story Chris.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to remember.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely and I would also leave so many loose ends that you couldn't tie up all those loose ends.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You'd have to commit to making another three films.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I didn't know if you could do that.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I don't know if you know this.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: George Lucas did kind of stealthily sell Lucasfilm to Disney a couple years ago.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And so we've been theorizing that Disney...

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they have this property.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The original three films aren't very well loved, but were very successful.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They might try to make another movie.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We keep on hoping that they'll announce an episode four any day.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Which probably wouldn't come out until like 2018.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean if they made an episode four I'd be really interested.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what would be cool about that too?

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Is like seeing all our original cast come back now aged.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know seeing Hayden and Ewan and Natalie.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: A 40-something Ewan McGregor?

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah the Holy Trinity.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Our three leads.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: An Oscar now an Oscar to Natalie Portman?

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay let's get through this cast.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so I'm looking at it as I usually do.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Cast member by cast member?

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking up from the top which is fun.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh can I say one other thing?

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Any other general thing before we go?

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Just say space so you can say anything you want.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: In the...when they go...

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Where are they when Obi-Wan is riding around on that giant lizard?

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's my favorite part of the movie.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's called Utapau or Utapao.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the place we're fighting with that.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the General Grievous.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright we're going to talk about General Grievous later.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the worst.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the worst thing.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely fucking worst.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: But that lizard that Obi-Wan inexplicably rides around on,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: there's never been a more blatant cash grab at making a toy than that.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Works for me.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite character in the whole movie.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say...

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Why does that shit exist?

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know and I don't know why it's literally...

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Literally we've talked about this.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The scene is like they're like oh he's downstairs

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and Obi-Wan's like great do you have like an iguana maybe?

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I could ride downstairs like rather than just taking all of air.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like level 10.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Great should I wait for help or should I get on this thing that kids might buy?

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait I would say General Grievous is a pretty blatant toy.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god General Grievous is though I mean poorly...

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything about him is poorly...

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Poorly executed, animated, no one cares about his opinions.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He's constantly just like with that one part, remember that one part where he shows up on a ship

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_04]: and then it's just like him huffing and puffing and he just like gets off the ship

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's in a big rush?

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He looks like a fucking dickhead man.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Looks like a dickhead.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Well he's always coughing.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean there's another middle manager type.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They did not do a good job of explaining who he is at all.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: They don't do any job work.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Who is he?

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We did some research on Wikipedia which is the Star Wars Wikipedia

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and General Grievous was a young warrior who fell in love with a woman who died

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and he wasn't General Grievous yet.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He had like an identical arc to Anakin.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can tell the whole Grievous story again.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The love killed him and then they rebuilt him into a size 4.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's like an early prototype of Anakin.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah and as far as Darth Vader goes it was like there were some things about him

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that were messed up and then they got it right from Vader.

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah they were like we need to make some changes.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: One he shouldn't cough.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: He can have like a throaty breathing maybe but no coughing.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Also I'm sure everybody has a weak point

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: but if his is that you can just shoot him in the heart

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe we use some of his armor to cover his fucking heart.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when you shoot him in the heart?

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: When he shoots his heart it catches on fire?

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then his head explodes off his body?

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: General Grievous is the worst thing about all three movies.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say worse than Jar Jar Binks.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I would agree.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I would agree with that too.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Although there's more Jar Jar Binks which doesn't help.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But he's almost entirely gone from this third one.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true but in the first movie Jar Jar Binks

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: is maybe not quite as bad but he's everywhere.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: He can't get rid of him.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a guy I feel bad for is Ahmed Bessy.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about poor Ahmed Bessy.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if you could get him on the podcast.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we've been a little mean to him.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we gave him a pass.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: We got really mad at him because he refused to admit

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that there was any racial issue with how people were seeing the character

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: because Jar Jar is an orange frog.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He claims the characterization is in no way influenced

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: by a horny old minstrel show stereotypes.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah that's nuts.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It might not be on him but it's a...

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I would also say out of every actor in the three Star Wars movies

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_04]: when we were talking about green screen acting and everything

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_04]: he may have had the toughest job.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: They're talking about the pioneer too.

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I can guarantee you he was covered in ping pong balls

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_04]: and had fucking like broomstick, like cut up broomsticks pointing out

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_04]: of all different parts.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Imagine if you saw a picture of him pre-CGI

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_04]: like what he just looked like standing there

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure he looked and felt like a complete fucking asshole.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Next to Liam Neeson all the time.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah he's next to Liam Neeson

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like sitting around afterwards with Sir Christopher Lee

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's got like fucking bent coat hangers coming out of every orifice.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like can I get the coat hangers off me?

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Like sorry it's actually really hard.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Nine and a half hours to do your makeup again.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright so we're gonna start at the top.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Right at the top.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: With Ewan McGregor, top billing as Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Ewan McGregor.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a close crop beard,

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: he's got a shorter hair than the last movie

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's really theatrical.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And do you guys grade on like a number system?

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_04]: No it's just pass-fail.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Pass-fail.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say if we're going pass-fail,

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_04]: he's a pass.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Go on Griffin, I agree with Chris but go on.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: This is actually good because usually it's just the two of us

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: so it's hard to break a tie.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Here's, I have another question just as far as how you guys do this.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Are we judging in the vacuum of the Star Wars movie?

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Is he acting well within the confines of this film

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: or is this a good acting performance?

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Judging against the small actors.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Like if you stand up against other acting performances.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's actor in both.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we go how well is this actor playing to the film surrounding them?

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: How well are they doing regarding the circumstances of how the film was made

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and just as a pure piece of acting?

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you weigh it out.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: As a pure piece of acting it's completely forgettable.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Agreed.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Within a movie riddled with bad performances

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_04]: his is not offensive, I give him a pass.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I also, I like the progress.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that he's pretty terrible in the first movie.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We gave him a pass the first.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We gave him a fail the first time.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The second time he's alright.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We gave him a pass.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know and then this time I feel like at least while everyone else is so stiff and tense

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: he has a little bit of verve like in the grievous scene.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of joking around.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He's having fun.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we talked about that.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm thinking back on notes I've given on his performance in the last couple episodes.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I said I liked he was doing kind of the Aeryl Flynn thing

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: in that the grievous sequence.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: His delivery of the you were the chosen ones like actually a good moment.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Well that's his big moment right?

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if he's got a nail moment it's that big he's screaming at Anakin while he gets burned up.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean that's sort of what you have to judge him on.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll say this, I found it very hard to keep watching during all that stuff

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: because it felt like a movie that was over.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It felt like a movie that to me had concluded about 40 minutes prior.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So I did not, I was not, I was very distracted.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Also can I tell you guys this, my wife is very mad at both of you.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Because you've gotten that complaint before.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Well no she didn't watch it but you know I'm a very busy guy, she's a very busy lady.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have too many nights we're both just home and she was like

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: oh you want to watch Bloodline because we've been making our way through Bloodline on Netflix.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Solid show.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Solid what do you think?

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's great acting.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Great acting.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben Mendelson that guy is a real star.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But is that family really fucked up enough for me to care?

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's a pretty fucked up family but I feel like I know more fucked up families.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you it's, they're a little too nice to each other sometimes.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a slow slow burn that pays off.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It also is like if the dad just went to therapy twice it wouldn't exist.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Family went to family counseling.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That family just needs some communication.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly they could have sat down once when they were all like 15

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and that show doesn't need to happen at all.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to invest anyway.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: My wife was like you want to do it and I was like well you know I'm hanging out

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Griffin and David were doing this podcast so I got to actually watch Revenge of the Sith

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: and she was so mad.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean that's pretty much the worst thing.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: When I, the first time I had to re-watch it for this I was with my girlfriend

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was like I knew that I had to do this but I couldn't tell her.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I couldn't break it to her like so after dinner I was like

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: you know there's a movie I need to watch actually we could watch this.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: For work.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just yeah put it in and she's like wait what are you doing?

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: No no no no.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it was terrible.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_04]: She was mad she actually put her earbuds in and watched a different thing on an iPad.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow so she wouldn't even acknowledge the movie.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_04]: She wanted to have a night where you're like chilling on the couch

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_04]: hanging out cuddling, not nap that means something.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Come on don't be cross we're talking about my wife.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry so sorry.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What if we have Halley on as a guest next week with that sort of

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love that.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Makeup floor?

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: To talk to her about how she refuses to watch any of these.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah that should be great.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And outsiders opinion from something who hasn't watched anyone.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But you don't like so you're saying fail again.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No I'm saying pass I'm thinking it over.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking it over.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm giving him a pass.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But what's your complaint if you have one?

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: What's my complaint?

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if this is a fair complaint to throw out.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Do it.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: There are certain scenes in the movie there's one that just really sticks out in my mind

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_01]: which is after the first opening like a gunship battle

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: where they're chasing after Grievous.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like this scene where Ewan McGregor's like

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: resting his elbow on like the side of the door of the ship.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like he's like Anakin go talk to Yoda and Mace Winde they'll award you

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like what about you and he's like I don't need the you know the lads.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's on the writing.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but he's like it feels like he's not even giving a shit.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just like this might be so ridiculous let me just let him get through it.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I know he's definitely Ewan is definitely I think the most because he's in it the most right.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's the one who's really like Natalie Portman we're about to get to her

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: she doesn't have a lot to do this one I think.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But so I think there is the most self-awareness.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I give him a pass.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about it.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I was most offended with him the stuff that trended most towards fails

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: anytime him and Anakin have those interactions where Obi-Wan has to be like

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm your father figure come on Annie you're disappointing me.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like though every one of those makes me want to fuck.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You're pretty much nailing the tone right there.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's a man he's a character without an arc in this movie

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and he should have one you know what I mean like his arc is supposed to be

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: this loss of his son figure but mostly Obi-Wan just seems kind of attached.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And the guilt of knowing that he effectively plucked his kid out and it's his fault.

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: All of his friends mentors contemporaries die violently because he blew it.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: He's pretty cursed.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And he didn't listen.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird that he's not more bummed out at the end of the movie

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: but that's kind of the I mean the problem with these movies is also kind of the Jedi issue right?

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: They just don't get bummed out enough.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Emotionally affected by anything positive or anything.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_04]: There are some points where as Palpatine is revealing himself to Anakin that he starts talking shit about the Jedi

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and you kind of he's kind of completely correct.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah no you totally agree.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's like there are these obtuse arrogant people who like...

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah who suppress all their emotions and don't do anything.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah and like don't recognize like greatness when it's in front of them

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and like it's all political.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And they don't allow knowledge to get out unless they want it to get out.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He's entirely correct.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: 100%.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know yeah the more I think it over I feel like my reservations with Obi-Wan in this movie

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: are where the script fails him.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Not just in like lack of writing but in lack of a real arc with agency

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: considering that he isn't so much of it and that he was so important last to

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but as a performance I give it a pass.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I give it a hard path.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_03]: What about Natalie Portman who plays Padme Amidala?

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about this.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_03]: She's in 10 minutes of the movie tops.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_03]: She's not in it very much.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: She really just chills out in the apartment.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good actor who whiffs hard.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I would say if Ewan has a bit of a climb she has a real decline.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Because this movie is her nadir in this role.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_03]: She's obviously sick of it.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I guess.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good good actor.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And that is a bad performance.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah we have to give her an L right?

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Coming off you know the previous year she'd been in Closer,

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: she got an Oscar nomination, she was in Garden State,

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: she was really like coming into her own as like an adult actress

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and then Revenge of the Sith.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's a pass.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about her last week.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No it's a fail.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry fail, hard fail, hard fail.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: My brain's flipped today.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Hard fail.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay alright that's it.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: No nothing more about Natalie.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about her a lot last week.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's like she's in so little of it.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like you know as we said-

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You're breaking my heart Annika.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I like that one line really.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because she plays it so childlike.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Well there also is a stretch I would say.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I mentioned that I found it very hard to focus at all.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I was repeatedly checking the status of my fantasy basketball team.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: How did you get first?

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Well I picked 12th in a 12 team league.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Great.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Tough situation.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I managed to get Damien Lillard and Paul George with 12 and 13.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You're set are you kidding me?

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's a league with no turnovers.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Damien Lillard, I got Damien Lillard 12th in a league with no turnovers.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_04]: We should have gone 7th or 8th man.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to talk fantasy after this.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I know I said this was a safe space but we can't talk about sports.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But I would say this.

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say I'll give this.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean total fail across the board.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Felt like Natalie Portman once it got into the like one on one like Annika.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That scene where Annika comes back and he's like yo I got us hooked up.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_04]: We're good to go and she's like what the fuck did you do?

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: She actually gets okay from that through the end of the movie.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: She's actually alright.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will say we sort of charted her last week.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And the first movie comes out she's a young lady.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Around the time of attack of the clone she goes to Yale.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Harvard.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes to Harvard girl.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes to Harvard.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah on Harvard they're interchangeable in mind to find handsome school.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to lose all our listeners and I think we're a Harvard podcast.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_03]: All your Harvard podcasts.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: All your many listeners at Ivy League schools.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's who's dialing in please.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: But she spent like four years not really acting that much.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she came back like right before this movie.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like she started really hitting it again.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And like getting real meaty roles playing like adult parts in like character based films.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think she kind of like came into this film being like I'm fucking out of it.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: This is like let's punch out you know.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just I will just give her some credit and say that when the movie actually

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I think this phrase makes sense like when it got smaller she shined a little more.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah when it wasn't like let's run around fucking talking about a Senate

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and traveling from planet to planet but it was actually like oh no you

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_04]: you did this thing that really you should not have done and you're saying you did it because of me.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that shines through.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's interesting she is kind of she's his flimsy justification for child murder

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and Jedi genocide and all these terrible things.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And she also has four scenes.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_04]: The child murder is definitely too much.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it's way it's too much too fast.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And the acting is not good.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_04]: No but I will say I like that scene.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Well do you like just the sort of the restraint of the him igniting the blade.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah exactly when the kid when he comes in and the kid.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like me saying well let's not let's not get ahead of ourselves we're going to get to that performance later.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Debbie's and then Anakin just turns on the lights here like that was the way to do it.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I know better than the sand people.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that brings us to number three.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hating Christensen.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Although I feel bad watching it now at the perspective of time.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah this is a guy you got to think about this nobody had really heard of Hating Christensen before the Star Wars.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Had he been in anything?

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_03]: He played a couple tortured teens.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And like Disney TV.

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_03]: He was a Canadian TV actor primarily.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He was sort of a sub-gostling.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And then look now he's dealing with acting in a green screen environment.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: All of this experimental technology at the time.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's got the emotional arc of the movie on his shoulders.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything's on his shoulders.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He's up there.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_04]: He's in there with Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Christopher Lee, Samuel Jackson, Jimmy fucking Smith.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He's in there with these people who are no joke actors.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The guy's in over his head.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like 24-25 when he's in over his head.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing is we're watching this movie now and like we see Ewan or Natalie phoning it in Sam Jett.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just like well it's okay they figure you know whatever like they're doing fine.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Hating Christensen is doing fine.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And my wife actually told me last night she said after I was done watching she said I actually he was in a movie.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I hadn't seen a shattered glass.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh he's good in them.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_04]: She says he's great.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That was his one I think his one like solid performance on his film.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It plays through his strengths really well.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But imagine if he was starting with things like that and then had the time to actually develop and grow and supporting roles like most actors do.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a specific type.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He needs to play a specific type I think.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He has that weird sort of delivery.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He has that kind of high voice.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You know he has this sort of haughty attitude.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And his eyes never changed their emotion.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you notice that?

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: No matter what he's saying.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He has this weird like semi-intense vacant look.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well in Shattered Glass he plays a pathological liar which matches with those eyes very well.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And he has a sort of like really deep rooted insecurity that he's trying to mask.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good movie.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Peter Sarsgard is also in it and he's just tremendous.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That was kind of his workout.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_03]: What an actor that guy is.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Hager Christensen was a real, real fail.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah huge fail.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's brutal.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And this movie is terrible.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_04]: This bullshit.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it's tough to watch.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it okay that I'm cursing this much?

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You just curse as much as you want.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I talk about robot pussy.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a safe space.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: As long as you don't talk about basketball you can talk about anything you want.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about anything you want.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I talk about what?

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Red?

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You talked about, you read erotic fan fiction about Obi-Wan sucking Qui-Gon's dick.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I've done it before and I'll do it again.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Liam Neeson.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the whole episode.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Liam Neeson was involved in this.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We gave him a hard pass.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he does a gentleman's job.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No we gave Liam Neeson a pass.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: A pass.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: When you say hard...

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Darth Maul Ray.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Ray Park.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Ray Park.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_04]: We gave him a pass.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: As an athlete.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like a true guy.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, but next up Ian McDermid as Chancellor Palpatine.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Having a lot of fun in this movie.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys think?

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: MVP.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Most valuable performance I'd say.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I would agree although I do think sometimes it feels like he's in his own special movie.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a better movie though.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think yeah, he's like this thing needs some cheese.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It needs some real like, you know, we've talked about the river of ham.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We talked about Ken Branagh's river of ham.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Ken Branagh when he was directing Thor was talking to Ray Stevenson who played the role of Volstag.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was saying more and more, come on.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like really.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And Stevenson was like I don't know, I don't want to dip my toe into the river of ham.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And Branagh was like by all means bathe in the river of ham.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I say something controversial?

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been in the river of ham.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No please go ahead.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Ian McDermid.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Now what's your reasoning?

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And now I was watching with this analysis of mine.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we've given him passes for every movie.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's great.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He's great except for one scene.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh what's the scene?

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Which ruins it all.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_04]: His behavior during the confrontation with Mace Windu is...

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Ernicine is killing me.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: No that's...

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It is so bizarre that it undercuts everything else he did in that movie.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I felt bad.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like Kevin Arnold bit me.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Now what do you think was going on in that?

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the scene.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It all rests on that scene.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's where Anakin retrace the kid the Jedi.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where he's gotta turn it all around.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought Samuel Jackson was pretty great in that scene.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: He's fantastic in that scene.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: We're about to get to him.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Ian McDermid, it's like there's so many moments in all three of these movies where you're like

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_04]: was anyone watching?

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Was anyone even watching them?

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Or were they all just fiddling with gadgets and lights?

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta remember as well.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_03]: These are basically independent movies.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if the studio is looking at the dailies and being like, hey George do you

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: want a baby?

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Total free reign.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Adjust every...

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well the problem is the tone is all out of whack.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He's all the way up here and then Hayden Christensen is all the way down here.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Samuel Jackson's really finding a sweet spot.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: But his I would say because I'll tell you all throughout the beginning of that movie

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like this feels great.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_04]: This feels like a bad guy performance in an old Boris Karloff style.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It feels like a lovably hammy bad guy.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But once he...

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: In that Mace Windu scene.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And then even afterwards once he turns into a total plant.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Movie that's so dedicated to CGI all of a sudden you just hang up, you fucking...

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like you just melt a couple pieces of plastic and stick them on his cheeks.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like that's the one real thing you do.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like even that he said when he was like, ehh naive.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And like that address to the Senate.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah where he proclaims his empire.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He has now settled into it as like he's a total evil cartoon character.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And even that I buy.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That Mace Windu scene is so bad that it gives me...

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It makes me fail him.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't buy the transformation?

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean it's so...

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Anakin, help me!

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: What about the...

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you like the earlier scenes?

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The opera house scene all that stuff.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god and the writing in that.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_04]: When he literally when Palpatine goes, he's a traitor!

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And Mace Windu's response is, you're a traitor.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I remember your glue.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Horrible.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I defend it for a second?

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The writing of that scene is so extreme.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's on...

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's on McDermott man.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he looked at that they delivered to him, hey here are your sides for tomorrow.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_01]: George has them on lock and key.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And for the first time you go, hey here are your sides for tomorrow.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Memorize, it could be off both of these eight pages of dialogue.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big action scene in which a guy holds up a lightsaber and you shoot lightning at his lightsaber.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that somehow reflects back only onto your face turning your forehead into a butchie.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: The longer you do your own thing, it melts your face.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is weird because how do you know you can do it if you've never practiced it?

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: If that happens when you do that, how do you not know that?

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Also...

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: This cannot be the first time you did that force lightning.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Also he could just stop.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_01]: If he realizes, oh if I shoot force lightning at a lightsaber it turns my forehead into butchiex.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just stop.

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Put your hands up.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've asked this of you before.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Was he wearing a mask and like the butchiex is his real face?

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Or is that just what happens?

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's scarring.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the specific scarring effect of that.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But they're so symmetrical.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's lightning.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would lightning make these grooves, even grooves along his face?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That scene should have been great.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It should be really cool.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The death of Mace Windu.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the betrayal of Anna.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the time, you know?

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think McDermott just went, okay this scene's impossible.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't make any sense the way it's written.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I might as well have fun.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_04]: This is like a troll 2 level written scene.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: That's my point!

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I am the Senate.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_04]: It feels like it was someone who only spoke German.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And then a person who largely spoke French translated it into English.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It was like written by Babelfish.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Do you like how he says absolute power?

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Power!

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright, well moving on from him though.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_04]: He effectively is imitating Starscream from the Transformers cartoon.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04]: In that.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Megatron!

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you like how they kept that basically in the movies?

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They kept that dynamic with Starscream.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I've seen any of this.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I maybe saw the first one.

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They keep it up!

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: One in three are the two to watch.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Two in four are garbage.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That is true.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, Samuel Jackson as Mace Windu.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Very strongly about this.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Samuel Jackson?

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: As Mace Windu.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Pass baby.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a pass right?

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that it's his best work of all three movies too I would say.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's very like...

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_04]: like very kind of miltose.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah which he kind of has in control.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Very Jedi.

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_04]: But again I would say like it's not on Samuel Jackson.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_04]: He's written as this ultra contemplative calm Jedi.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the only time in history Samuel Jackson hasn't been given some big moments to sink his teeth into.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He never blows up?

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Never.

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he slightly sells in this movie that Mace Windu knows like it's all kind of going wrong.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You know in those early scenes where he's talking to Yoda because Yoda can't sell it.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the first one to be convinced too that something's up.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Anakin comes to him and he goes like really?

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin's like okay fine I'll follow you through on this.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see where it goes.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There's that fucking one shot I talked about in the past when he's walking into Palpatine's office

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like a fucking bad.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and Lucas sort of shoots him from the ground.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true and he's got that crew with him.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That crew lets him down though my god they go down in a second.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we'll get to them.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's not rate them yet.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Fundamentally I mean I'm not rating any of the acting performances but fundamentally.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: The Jedi are effectively supposed to be like what the Knights Templar were in the middle

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: ages.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: They are all weak.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They're all weak people who die with almost no fight.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: In this movie they mostly get shot.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: They mostly get shot in the back.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_04]: They're mostly like administrators ordering clones around until the clones just kill them.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Jimmy Smith's is a Senator Bale Organa.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The Smiths.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Now we see you know Smiths was in two and he doesn't do much and then we saw Smiths was

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: in three and we thought alright Smiths is going to get more.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: High Billing.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Or meat on the bone.

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_03]: High Billing.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a little more.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He's fifth.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Sixth Bill.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Sixth Bill.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say and this was also kind of his comeback right?

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah because he had kind of been off NYPD blue for a while.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah he was sort of floating around.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_04]: After this he flipped over to Dexter right?

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: After this he starts what I think is his pretty nice solid run of guest starring and yeah he's

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_03]: on Dexter.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He was the president on West Wing.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: He killed it in Dexter.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like he was in something out.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He was in Sons of Anarchy.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you guys watched that.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I watched the first scene.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He shows up in that later.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Just for background like this podcast generally is anti-Bitts very much pro-Smiths.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We've never waited on the nature of this performance exactly but we just like Jimmy

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Smiths a lot.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Who doesn't like Jimmy Smith?

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was going to say.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I give him a soft pass.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I would too.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a soft pass.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't do much except just be Jimmy Smith.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: His big scene is where he watches the teenager Jedi die remember and he sort of goes no like

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: during the-

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: That teenager Jedi.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's one of the best performance.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Well Griffin's got the news.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll wait till you hear who he is.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to his real name.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait till you hear who he is.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Smiths is a soft pass mostly just I mean charm and handsomeness.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's got that one scene where he's like my wife and I've always wanted a girl.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like I don't know his wife but like I believe this you know.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say it just again about the writing of that.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like dude straight up the whole world is falling apart.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: There's been a coup of the galaxy.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: The entire galaxy is a coup and the defenders of peace and justice are all dead.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And you're like my wife and I we're going to die.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_03]: We've been thinking of getting a three bedroom you know expanding.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It has to have eye in a big way.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to point out David like the definition of a low bar for success.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You're saying that Smiths gets a pass because in the scene where he says my wife

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and I have always wanted to adopt you believe that he has a wife.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: This guy's definitely married.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: The woman he's invoking off screen.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We never meet.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_04]: You say the phrase I'll take the girl.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That is a creepy thing to say.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true because they're like there's a boy and a girl and he's like oh we better split him up for safety.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll take the girl.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: One girl please.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll take the girl.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Soft pass for Smiths.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Soft pass.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_03]: All right Frank Oz is Yoda to vocal.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I have a question for you guys.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Miss Piggy himself.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Do I am I judging the vocal performance of Frank Oz or is this coupled inherently with the quality of Yoda?

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good question because you know it's hard to separate and I'm pretty sure that you know Oz wasn't doing any face capture or any moving around.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just the voice.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Purely animated.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess we should just judge Frank Oz.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_04]: As far as what Frank Oz does he did it great.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_04]: If I if I was judging Yoda as if Yoda was an actor I would say one of the lower rung performance.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say he's pretty lame.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a terrible character physically it's very unconvincing.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I think the real problem is in the earlier movies he doesn't have to be very emotional but he has to be emotional in this and he sucks at it.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: The scene where he like goes like yeah I'm holding my head I realize we're on a podcast.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's a really weird part like the Wookiee style I thought that battle with the Wookies was pretty cool.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I like the Wookies they seem like an interesting thing.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: What's where are they coming from?

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he climbs onto that one Wookiee's head and goes I'll miss you Chewbacca.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_04]: We've talked about this five weeks in a row.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Why the fuck is that important?

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's Chewbacca.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The guest we've had on has pointed that out.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's two minutes.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Who the fuck is this one guy he's single count.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah why is he just friends with this one guy and he goes like a good relationship with the Wookiee I have.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Since when?

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So apparently you were buddies with this one guy Chewbacca cool man.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm giving him a fail.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna give him a fail too.

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He never brought it home.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and you're saying like Oz did a good job and like yeah it's a great voice.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We know Frank Oz.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Can spin a mean voice.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I gave him a pass just because he's a hired gun and he does what he's done.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_04]: This is a guy who's sitting in a booth not on like this one.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He's as far like he doesn't even have the pleasure of green screens or eye contact.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Just to clarify when you say a booth just like this one you mean the booth that is currently being run by producer Ben,

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: aka the Ben Deucer, aka Pradoor Ben, aka The Haas, aka Poet Laureate, aka Mr. Positive, aka The Peeper, aka...

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah the new one.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you're The Peeper.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey yeah I've been here the whole time guys.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for introducing me.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry Ben.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No it's alright.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I don't have much to add.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate this movie.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Ben's really mad at us.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben was like actively angry last time we've recorded.

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't like that this show exists.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Well I had to come in on a Sunday and hear these guys for like four hours talk about this one movie.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben's face is turning scarlet right now.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah you're legitimately furious.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's alright though.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Call Mr. Positive for a reason.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay Ben just four more.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh we're so close.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Four more years.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to move on though.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to move on to Anthony Daniels as C-3PO.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but also rate, review and subscribe on iTunes.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes please.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the two things that Ben has to do at the beginning of the show.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah please rate and review us.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't even checked.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay Anthony Daniels as C-3PO.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Is he in this?

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even remember C-3PO.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not in it that much.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: What a weird character.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Barely in the first one all over the second one.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like fumbling around all the wars he has.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the worst.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: His head gets put on the other drug's body and it's really like they've changed.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like let's pay this off.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_04]: They just trade minds.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh that was weird.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And then.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_04]: This one I would almost say it's like I would go so far as to say that if I'm

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_04]: just looking at this movie in a vacuum I have to give him like a like a not.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_03]: How do I gauge it?

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't do enough.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really hard to gauge this performance.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He's in a suit I guess so there's some physicality.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you name me a thing C-3PO does in this movie because I don't remember.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: At the end his mind gets wiped for no good reason.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Jimmy Smith's like wipe his mind which is a little tragic.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know three movies worth of memories.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say soft pass.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say a fail because I'm worried about us overriding these actors again.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck it's happening again.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I said I was gonna be tough today.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say soft pass.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The same justification that you gave Frank Oz and you know what I think hired

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: gun he did what he was asked to do and I think there's less emotional weight on him.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Frank Oz could have given a little more emotion to some of those line

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: readings to make up for the lack of physicality and emotional depth in the animation.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll also say this about Frank Oz now that I think about it.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He's probably with his work with Henson.

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably one of the only people who has the clout to say George we got to

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: rewrite this shit.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true and he clearly didn't do that.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I want to switch eyes to a fail.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright so he's down to a fail.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But what about Anthony Daniels?

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I would say like a not like did not play coach's decision.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You abstain.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Like if this was basketball I'd say like well he never got off the bench.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: DNP did not play coach's decision.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We've done that before it's been very rare but we've done that

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: before across the last two months.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna do it again in one second.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I managed to bring up basketball again.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah no.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_04]: There's other people who had almost no impact though that I do have strong

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: opinions on.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe the next actor listed?

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Actually no because the next actor listed is Christopher Lee is Count Dooku.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Pass.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I say pass.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah well we love him in the first in the second movie.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He's so good in Attack on the Pines.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He really brings some energy to it.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Which I haven't really watched in a while so you guys are comparing it to

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04]: he's not as good as he was in Clones it's clear from both of your reactions.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Clones he brings it and Clones he's got a lot to do.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is in Sith he's uh yeah it feels like they sort of

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: forgot that he was supposed to be in it and they were like oh shit we need

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_03]: a Dooku scene he's got to get uh alright okay here he is.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I still think he's great though.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He's also mostly ahead on a CGI body in this movie.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Like his only role is that scene where they fight and he's jumping around.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The dude's like he was like eighty seven.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like eighty seven.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like thirty five years old yeah.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:08] Poor Chris Lee.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause the first one and not the first one.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Attack on the Clones you can see that he's like an old dude fighting

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: with a ping pong ball.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And in this one it's like a it's a flubber body.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's what we call it.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I did think the scene where he gets killed where.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He gives that look to Palpatine where he's like dude.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah and Anakin's like all confused.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I did think Ian McDermott there kills it when he's like do it.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Do it.

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's great.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah he's just like seeing if you can get Anakin to see how far

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_04]: he can nudge him.

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm very smart.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the tiebreaker here on Chris for Lee.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh are you gonna give him a no I'm saying pass I think we're both

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_04]: saying pass you're saying pass.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You said pass.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh you said pass.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't watched Clones in a while you guys are just feeling

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: like you're going to be in a disappointment.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm up on Lee.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll say pass.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Chris for Lee is basically never bad.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I agree.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I really love Chris for Lee.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Next next build is Keisha Castle Hughes as the Queen of Naboo.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a non-speaking role.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you know who we're talking about.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Academy Award nominated for performance of Whale Rider.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah she was a recent Academy Award nominee for a great

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: performance she gave in the New Zealand film Whale Rider.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Hard fail.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Hard fail.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I completely agree.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hard fail.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean one.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing regal, nothing royal.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You gotta figure she must have shot some stuff and they were

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_03]: like thanks but no thanks right?

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you see her in the funeral for one second.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And I cannot separate.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I know this is not this actor's fault but the completely

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: unexplained politics of the interchangeable Queen of Naboo.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's elect another 12 year old.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's always a teenager.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Cannot separate it in my mind.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I will always hate this.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Explain it, just explain it.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: That was one person was the Queen.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Why is Naboo now you're the Queen.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's let's try to unpack it.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know how our country like there are like 200 countries and

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: they all elect heads of state?

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_03]: This planet decided it just needed one and then it should be a 12 year old girl.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a planet of in denial pedophiles.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're all going no no 12 year olds are just

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: better at making decisions.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only reason we want them on the throne.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Terrible performance.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to move on.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to give her a pass.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I'm failing her.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Terrible performance.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing about because she's got a tear in her eye.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_03]: She looks kind of sad.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But she looks like a handmaiden.

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't even look like if it's not Keisha Castle Hughes you don't

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_03]: even notice that person.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We're really ripping her in.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Silas Carson.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving him Silas Carson.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He plays two roles.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He plays Newt Gunray the leader of the trade federation.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And he plays Ki-Adi Mundi the sort of Easter Island headed Jedi who gets

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: you know mowed down.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a penis head.

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_03]: By his clone troopers.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go ahead and say can I?

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Nick Gunray fail Ki-Adi Mundi big pass.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin is delighted by this.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Big pass Ki-Adi Mundi.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been waiting to talk about Ki-Adi Mundi.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about Ki-Adi Mundi.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of the only members of the Jedi council who to me

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_04]: feels like he has the actual gravitas that is constantly said

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_04]: but not right invoked about as far as a show not show don't tell

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_04]: thing Ki-Adi Mundi is probably the only member of the Jedi council

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: that is showing a sense of there's experience and battle scars

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_04]: dignity.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Dignity level of wisdom and like a level of sacrifice that you

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_04]: earn your seat at this table Ki-Adi Mundi to me is that

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and I mean this in a very real way.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I also think that he in the order 66 a lot of the

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Jedi's die pretty punk deaths you know he's up he's trying to

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: leave he's leading the charge he's jiving in there with his

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_03]: lightsaber he turns around and you get that look on his face

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: where he's like like how could this be happening tries to fight

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: back yeah it's rough I mean I don't a new gun right though is

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_03]: an embarrassment.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you think all the Jedi stuff should have had almost

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_04]: like a walking dead vibe like all the clones fucking flip out

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and go into this frenzy or a thousand of them over on each

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Jedi yeah and we've also discussed like it's weird that it's

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_01]: not clarified whether order 66 is like a programming thing

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that then like switches their brain and makes them go crazy

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: that's what I assume or they just follow orders yeah if they

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_03]: just go okay well what I really hate and we talked about it

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: before but is that he literally says like Commander Cody

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: execute order 66 and vice me then has to call everyone else

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_03]: be like hey commander your name is Timmy all right you

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't group call you know your name is Cody Cody he's the

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_04]: commander newt gunray embarrassing he had a Monday I would say

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: one of the high points of the trilogy should we split you do

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: get one MVP per performance of you just so you know so I'm not

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: putting words in your mouth saving mine I know okay okay

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: okay so but we haven't split that's what's interesting let's

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_04]: split it let's split yeah okay you guys disagree no no no

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying we'll give him a pass for Kei-Adi Monday but then

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: we'll also give him a fail so we'll just agree with both of those

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah but I want to talk more about what's your opinions on Kei-Adi

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Monday I heard from you Griffin you haven't really expressed

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_03]: a way in on Kei-Adi Monday we've talked about him before you

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: know in passing I mean this is this is my thing in the past

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_01]: we have combined the two characters into one performance

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and we hate new gunray so much that we had nice enough

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: things to say about Kei-Adi Monday and but the new

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: gunray so wildly overwhelmed it that we didn't really go into

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that in this movie I hear everything you're saying I do

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: think is a sense of authority a sense of power I find him a

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_04]: little arrogant wow I think but I but again is that is this

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_04]: one of the only layered performances in the entire

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_01]: trilogy yeah I mean you're winning that there is this like

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of like because yeah here's the thing I do feel

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like there's a quiet arrogance about Kei-Adi Monday

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I also feel like there's an unspoken sadness because

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_04]: he's kind of separated and he's seen too much in his years

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that arrogance is caused a little bit by

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: that separation because he is you know he has special

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_04]: powers of course there's arrogance but it also separates

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_04]: him from any sense of normalcy or normal relationships

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and I feel like I can feel the sacrifice Kei-Adi Monday

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_04]: has made and I think of it this way you look at all

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_04]: the Jedi and there I would say there's only two or

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_04]: three where it's like if you could if you were making

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_04]: comic book series Kei-Adi Monday one off basically

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_04]: he's one of the first I would be like I want to know

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_04]: more about that guy sure almost I mean one of the

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: biggest failings at this movie is that you got all

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_03]: these Jedi Council guys are in every single movie

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: you never find out anything yeah it sucks stupid

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: you won me over Kei-Adi Monday past well we're gonna

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_03]: right now let's move on to Jay Lugaya as Captain

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Typho and just to remind you guys that's this

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_03]: guy I don't even remember him in this movie

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: he's in the last one fail I can tell you I

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: can tell you where he is in this movie he's

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_04]: the guy with the eye patch he's like he replaces

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: that one guy that died that one time

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_04]: doesn't even die in that film Panaka doesn't die

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_03]: there anymore he's just gone maybe he just

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_03]: didn't want to probably work for the new

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: queen I don't know he's got one moment in

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: the film it is when Padme is boarding

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: her ship to go to Mustafar to try to talk

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and again sure talking down down

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: there is a wide shot okay never cuts

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: into a close-up it is like a wide

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_01]: establishing shot of the ship and

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Padme is like the size of an ant in the

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: frame she's boarding the ship and Typho's

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: behind her he's like Padme are you sure

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_04]: you want to go I do remember that fail

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah it's bad for me oh yeah real bad

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I do remember as soon as he said I was

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: like fuck this is a tiny performance in

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: all senses it's physically small within

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: the frame and he's barely on screen but

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: it's bad it distracted me it's bad line

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: readings all right I agree with you guys

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_03]: and I hated him in the last movie yeah

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Bruce Spence as Tion met on that's this

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_04]: fella oh yeah yeah all right now Griffin

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_04]: really high on this actor Griffin's

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_04]: holding up his hand like he wants me to

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_04]: stop my what I'm gonna say whatever you're

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna say I just want you to factor

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: something in okay because I said this

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to David he wasn't that impressed Bruce

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Spencer you like interrupted like

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: conversation and see because I think

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: this is like cool to know yeah yeah

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: played the gyrocopter pilot in the road

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: war he's like a legend I don't care about

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: boom never seen that movie really oh you

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04]: should see it is good but is that one of

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: those medmax movies yeah it's the second

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_04]: one did you know like a man max you know

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_04]: like a man max road is the most over

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: hyped things since 300 well I hate

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_03]: 300 but love fury road I don't know

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: history will remember fury road as a

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_04]: 300 ask oh that being said this guy in

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie huge pass terrific yeah you're

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: immediately like whoa who's this guy

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_03]: he's in charge what I only people who's

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_04]: dressed like an asshole that actually

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_04]: overcomes the costuming to make you

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: feel like they have actually so much

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: costuming let's give you this face

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: let's give you weird teeth let's make a

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: collar hidey or ears for some reason

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: but the work he does oh yeah I'm

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_04]: showing pictures to the to my

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: fellow podcaster again in the writing I

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_04]: would say that it's this weird thing

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_04]: where Obi-Wan shows up they all come out

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's like yeah everything's fine and

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_04]: then Obi-Wan's like well I'm here to

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_04]: investigate and he's like he's here

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like well someone was watching you

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_04]: were listening

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_03]: group is made this exact way it's so

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_04]: great just come a little closer general

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: grievous he's downstairs yeah like he

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_03]: couldn't he couldn't overhear that like

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: if you were just to be unique you would

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_04]: only behave that way originally if you

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_04]: were being surveilled yes which you're

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: clearly not and doesn't really like

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_01]: lower his voice just changes his tone

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_04]: no and as soon as Obi-Wan shows up you

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_04]: know that's a Jedi yeah so you either

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_04]: got to be chill from the start or you

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_04]: gotta speak and code the whole time

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_04]: for that guy's great his performance is

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_03]: great it's great he's a legend of

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Australian cinema is that true I think

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: so these guys are Australian actors

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: in the road where he was the driver

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_04]: copter pilot yeah I think I don't like

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: those movies he was the mouth of Sauron

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and deleted scene in Return of the King

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: only a deleted scene yeah they yeah

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah that was the voice of Chum the

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_01]: shark and finding Nemo this guy's a

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_01]: boss

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to move on though we gave him a

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: pass you're really leading the

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: charge I just I know how this gets

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_03]: this credits list is long stopping

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_03]: this from being like really it's easy

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: to go on a tangent by any of these

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_03]: guys which is how we've spun 35

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes or whatever 25 episodes if you

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_04]: guys ever want to do an episode just

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_04]: about Kiari Mundi

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_04]: oh let's go we'll get to another

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_04]: character I like it would have to be

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_04]: about Kiari Mundi and maybe one or two

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_04]: other people I'd be down to do all right

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_04]: next I know where you're going

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_03]: honestly the billing order is crazy

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_03]: but next is Wayne Pygram as governor

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Tarkin who we don't even hear speak

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: in this movie remember he's in one

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_03]: scene at the end of the movie

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: he's standing with Darth Vader and

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Darth Sidious watching that that

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_03]: circular the sphere thing get made

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: the killer star and he's just

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_03]: standing out there with them what was

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_03]: that's your thing oh there they're

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_01]: obsessed with it they'd like vaguely

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_01]: allude to it being like a big weapon

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's never really fucking explain

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_01]: here I guess he's like a sort of

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_03]: future Empire bureaucrat guy is

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: literally a background player and he's

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_03]: got this insane makeup he's got the

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: biggest cheekbones this guy probably

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: wasn't even sad he had to be non-union

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: this guy's background purely you think

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he got an extra I think got extra I'm

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: giving him a fail because it's got

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_03]: a dumb face you just just dumb face

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_04]: just giving him a don't say fail if

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_04]: they want to bill him that high then I'm

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_04]: gonna judge him for what he did was not

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: impressive just to tell you about Wayne

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Pygram the only I mean he was in um he

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_03]: was in 61 episodes of Far escape a

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_03]: show I've never seen playing what

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: playing who a scorpious okay I don't

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_03]: know I've never seen first game once

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_03]: far escape Griffin's Chris is just

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_03]: laughing Jim Henson if there's a show

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_03]: you've never heard of I feel like it's

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_04]: hard I haven't seen everything guys but

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's hard for there to be 61

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_04]: episodes of a thing and for you to not at

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_04]: least have heard of it oh I know far

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of far escape okay you know

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like a Muppet sci-fi show just

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: was never my thing more than 61

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes you haven't seen it you're the

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Muppet guy I know more than 61

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_01]: episodes this guy was only in 61

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: episodes there's probably cracked 100

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah all right got that syndication

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: we're giving up we're giving him a

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_03]: fail though yeah all right so tomorrow

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Marissa really hates this podcast you

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: know he's he's loving it he's furious

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: you mean the people it's fun peeper

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: peeper I'm just over here my corner

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_02]: really just soaking the sand tomorrow

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Marissa who plays all of the clones

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_03]: but is cat is credited as commander Cody

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_03]: commander and in the second movie

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: obviously was Django fat yeah and

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_04]: this one he's very confused by why

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_04]: those people had to be cloned

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: yep as were we makes no sense no and

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: why would they pick that guy to go in

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: them off of I cannot I never I can never

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_04]: stop being irritated by no it's really

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_04]: all clones shouldn't they all have

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_04]: equal abilities and stature where you

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_04]: can commute and they're all wearing

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_04]: helmets so shouldn't you be able to just

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_04]: like have some sort of communicator in

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_04]: their helmets

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_01]: mm-hmm how do you get promoted to

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_01]: commander Cody yeah better than

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: your brother I get like a little

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_03]: extra jeans when he's built like

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_03]: guys like this one's got to be a

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: commander yeah do you think he earned

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the rank of commander was he like

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_01]: brewed to be a commander you know I

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_01]: don't know I'll say this though I agree

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: with all that find a very irritating

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_04]: all of that's within the writing as

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: far as his actual performance I say

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_04]: pass I say the same I say past you

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_04]: say pass and it's mostly a fail but

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_04]: really bad I would watch that guy in

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: other things that's why I think he's

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: a good actor and I'll have another

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_03]: stuff he does have a lot of presence

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but um I think that he's really

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_03]: annoying I don't I really like he just

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_03]: comes off so stiffly in all the scenes

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_03]: where he's communicating with Obi-Wan

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_03]: or Anakin or any of these guys right

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_01]: the role though I would I say that's

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_03]: damn it was supposed to be friends

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_03]: though it's always like Cody how you

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_03]: doing you know and and he's like go

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_03]: very good sir there's a similar they

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: go to Dave and Buster's they have a

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: great time there's a lot of chemistry

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Keari Mundi and commander Cody

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_04]: between the clones and the Jedi

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: don't you feel like a lot of this

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_04]: movie is Palpatine which just like

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_04]: it would be easy to kill all these

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_04]: people yeah pretty easy to just kill

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_03]: all these people take over he just

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: likes ineffectual armies I'm gonna move

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: on to David Bowers as Mass Ameda is

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_03]: this guy made up past he's the he's

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Palpatine's that blue guy with the

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_03]: horns yeah like what is he like his

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: secretary I don't know where can't

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: take my eyes off in one of the

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_03]: movies he says this is a crisis

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_03]: right I don't remember which one

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: technically technical because it's in

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_03]: the trailer I just remember that yeah

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a red there's lots of chaos

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and they just got to go this is a

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: crisis but David you remember that

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: line reading enough to be able to

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: properly all right first aid his voice

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: he's in there yet a buttery baritone

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: he's a pass we are the time now I'm

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: interested enough just find out what

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: David Bowers is oh my god oh my god

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad I clicked on his IMDB page

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: here's his bio he is best known for

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: his classic line I'm not getting in

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Star Wars episode to attack on the

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: clones quote this is a crisis

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: literally the top of his IMDB profile

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: he will be remembered I'm amazed he didn't pick up more work off that

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: because he killed it anyway good good on you David

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely some of the makeup though to

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_04]: give actual credit where credit's due

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah in a movie that I'm shitting all

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: over yeah definitely one of the

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: examples of makeup where I'm like

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_04]: that's in the sweet spot yeah I want to

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: know more about his whole doesn't look

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: like CGI you know what I'm trying to do

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to know his race I want to know

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: well it's on character all right Oliver

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Ford Davis he's in all three movies as

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Sio Bibble we talked about him he's in

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom Menace he's an attack of the

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: clones is he in revenge of that I don't

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: remember he might just be in the

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_03]: funeral scene right I think maybe one

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: other moment now this guy's real

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Chris is just laughing really so you

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah what is he do well I've always

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: referred to him as like griper in chief

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: because he's always just next to Padme

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: going like oh they're invading like this

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_03]: is terrible what are we gonna do if you

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: never rewatch he's got a really big part

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: in Phantom Menace he's in a lot of it

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's always relaying messages to her

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: and stuff he's like I don't know what

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: he is because Padme's secretary

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: he's the guy like keeping shit on

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: lockdown in Naboo he's like her main

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: aid or he's a yeah I don't know he's

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: civil servant I I called Sio Bibble I

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: think he's the head of this this

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: pedophilia ring on electing these little

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: girls you know need your fears are on

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: moral issues alone I give a fail I am

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a family this is a hatch garbage

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be able to have three straight

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: movies he's gotten only and also I want

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: to I always say this but Oliver Ford

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Davis is a great actor I saw him do

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: King Lear is that British stage he's

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: like a renowned Shakespearean actor in

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Britain so he's phenomenal he's so good

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: like is he knighted it you know what I'm

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: gonna look that up he's definitely got

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: something almost typed saw Sio Bibble

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: but I remember that's not his actual

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_01]: name I don't know if you know this Chris

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but but David grew up in London like

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_01]: spent a lot of his life I was vaguely

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: aware of that adolescence in London

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and a lot of times I'll be like dismissive

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: an actor and he'll be like but I'm

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: telling you his extatcher yeah we

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: want to do look I've seen I've seen

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_03]: King Lear a few times he's the best

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah it's really good so that will

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: suck he's a petarist

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: fuck him Ahmed best is charge our

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: beings got it I'm on record saying this

[01:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: guy had it harder than anybody you

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: gotta fail I mean what does he do in

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_03]: this movie he's in the Senate Senate

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Senate representative in the background

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: and there's a little discs so Senate

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: this yeah one of those one of the

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: zero lines that's right he had a

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: couple lines in the second one but he's

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: nothing in this one and like you know

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: this was pre-performance capture it was

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: sort of like performance reference

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: more so like they had on set they were

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: looking at how the lighting affected

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: him but like they weren't really truly

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: translating his movements and so I don't

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: know what he really is a shame because

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I I believe this is true my wife was

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: in stomp with Ahmed best that was

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: his only credit I know your wife was

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_04]: in stomp that's not I believe at the

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: same time as I'm at best at the very least

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: she knows him through the that that that

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: circuit of New York City like

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: performance art theater crossover and

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: she knows him and she have like a

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: positive impression says he's one of the

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: nicest kindest human beings she's ever

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: met what do you want to be on the

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: show

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: God that'd be that'd be okay so next

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: week we're having a really good show

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: we're having Halle on the show next

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: week and you should all right

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you could have a podcast with my wife

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and I just ask her why I'm at best

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry there's a bunch of names I

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: don't know who any of you okay let's

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: breeze through them no but I mean I

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_03]: really don't know the character names I

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: probably know

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: okay

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Ramis and tillie played by Rohan Nickle

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I look this guy up I don't

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: remember him who is this guy

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: oh you see him on the ship he's

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: talking to bail are gone to fail

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: they fail yeah he's a fail it's a

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: total fail but that ship let's

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: acknowledge oh great ship we're pro

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: smith ship yeah anti-bits pro smith

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: pro smith ship

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: uh yeah I'm just gonna show

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Chris the ship we're talking about in

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: case he's forgotten this ship yeah that's

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: a cool very good ship yeah nice

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: interior yeah

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: okay Jeremy Bullock as captain Colton

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_03]: this guy who are these guys

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: big pass

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: just you like it you like an old guy

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: he seems to be at the controls of

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: something I don't know seems like a guy

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: who's been through a lot and he's

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_04]: been tasked with the controls we are

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_03]: like they're pro-file he's a

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_04]: nailing he's a salty old space dog

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: all right I'm man I want to give him a

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: fail I want to give him a fail I'm

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: passing him just because of that that

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: was great he's a salty old space dog

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: also pedophile we have to acknowledge

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: is he in that boo yeah okay he's from

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Naboo originally I'm actually

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_03]: refusing to sign on to your pedophile

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: you're laring your politics over I'll

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: also say you're fighting so hard for

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_04]: this pedophile thing that it's

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_04]: making me wonder what you have to

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: hide are you guys pro-pedophiles

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: that we're trying to tell me you're

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_03]: having a lady does protest okay

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: okay let's go on I just tried to talk

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: about the movie Amanda Lucas who must

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: be related to George Lucas I believe his

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: daughter as Tar Taniel again

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: who is this I'll tell you redheaded

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_03]: woman she's got sort of like

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: headphones like she's got like big

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: metal domes I'll tell you who she

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: is yeah when they go to the opera

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: she is standing outside the entrance

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: of the opera

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I give her oh Ben Ben just sighed very

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: loudly do you have something to say

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: how long we've been going Ben how long

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: we've been going outside the opera

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: you just want us to be done so

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: don't worry we're definitely not almost

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_03]: no we're not even near it no no we're

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of near I'm gonna give her a pass

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: because I like ladies with colored hair

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah no thanks that fail if I don't

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: if I don't know you except if you're

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: a salty old space dog then you gotta

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: fail I'm sorry you didn't make an

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_04]: impression about this this act there's

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: you know

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: it's easy to say like oh extras are

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_04]: background but there's something you

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: said for like you serve a function

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and if you're too distracting you're not

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_04]: doing your job right if you leave no

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_04]: impact you're not leaving your job

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: right I would say that that old guy

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_04]: at the controls is nailing being an

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_04]: old guy at the controls whereas this

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: person live no impression it's a fail

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny Baker is R2D2 okay now this is

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: the one where we've never been able

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: to judge this performance how do you

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: judge it what are you what's this

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: little guy in a bucket like what's he

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: doing and this movie especially a lot

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: of CGI that he's like not even doing

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: he always just gets a question mark

[01:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: he I'm giving him his third straight

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: question mark on my own but clearly

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: value having him on set it's completely

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: impossible to know what his job is there's

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: no face there's no voice not

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_03]: applicable I mean it's like rating a

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: key grip like he seems to operate it

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: really well yeah I mean I guess but

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't know if the best boy was

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: really doing most of the work you don't

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: you can't rate the key great all right

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Matt Sloan as plu Klune that's the

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: cockroach he gets he gets shot out of the

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: sky and that's his death oh that was him

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah yeah he's cool pro just because I'll

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: say this his whole thing is to be

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: mysterious and kind of badass yeah he's

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: got an unchanging face the guy doesn't

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: trip the guy doesn't he doesn't have

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: any like weird like herky jerky

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: movements he looks like a badass

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: stays in the pocket I agree yeah even

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_03]: as he's getting shot down even as it's

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: all going down and you'll say that too

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: because all through all three movies

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_04]: you're like that guy looks badass and

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_04]: then he does have a badass death that he

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: sells well it's a good I would say it was

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: a phenomenal piece of acting I agree with

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you 100% I also think it's a past I

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_01]: was once again reestablished how low

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: our bars

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: our measure of success is he doesn't

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: trip

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_04]: it's bloke cool right it's bloke clune

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_04]: yes yeah

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_04]: clune key outie Monday

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to I mentioned when key outie

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: money came up that there's someone

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_04]: else there's one other person I want

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_04]: to put this on this is a third

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a third you still have your

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_01]: MVP token you're waiting to cash it

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: out yeah all right uh peter mayhew is

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Chewbacca fail you're giving him a

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: fail I'm giving him a I would say pass

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I he's he's tall and oh oh congrats

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll also say this though there's a

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: war on and he's he's hooting and

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_04]: grunting it but there's a real sense

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_04]: of urgency there that I appreciate

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I like Peter mayhew I give him

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: a fail wow I just don't understand

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: why he gets all this attention well

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: you're putting that on the character

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: though got a gummy snack and

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: but I'd say a solid pass yeah

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I'd say yeah Joel Edgerton as

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Owen Lars now Joel Edgerton's come a

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_03]: pretty famous actor we've talked about

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: him in the past who's he he's uncle

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Owen oh who is he now you're saying

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah he directed and started the

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: movie The Gift recently he was in

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the movie warrior the MMA movie

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: he was in Exodus Gods and Kings

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: his king Ramesses black mass he

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: played the main FBI he was in the

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: killing it yeah I love him he's in I

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: think he's Australian yes and you know

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: we should the movie closes on him

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: looking out at the Suns with the baby

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: or whatever with his wife I guess

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah yeah I don't think he talks in

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: this movie I would give him a pass

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I gave him a pass that felt like it

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_04]: had some real it had some weight it

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: had to I was uncertain about how it

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: was gonna go yeah so you guys gonna

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: give a pass to Bonnie PS who plays

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Baru yeah same logic yeah I buy the

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_01]: two of them being in love with

[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: each other without words standing next

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to each other you buy a sense of

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: casual unforced intimacy okay now

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: scrabble people get by yeah I've been

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: excited to get to this guy

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_03]: it's jet Lucas as Zet Jukasa the

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_03]: teenager who gets shot by in front of

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Jimmy Smith Lucas his son son of

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Georgie Porgy wow he and he does a

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: bunch of martial arts which apparently

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: he wanted to show off on screen

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: George was like let me give you a

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_03]: platform to do you tell you what

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: good call big past so you're saying in

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: this case nepotism thumbs up that kid I

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_04]: thought was impressive in a series of

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_04]: underwhelming Jedi deaths to cut to like

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_04]: seriously to cut to this padawan who's

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: putting up a fight and has this fire

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_04]: in his eyes where he's like I'm saying

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: fuck you up this is bullshit you've got

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_03]: that that twi-leck girl she just gets

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: shot down in the back straight up

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't do anything she doesn't even

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: look turn around this kid he's he

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: takes down a couple clone troopers

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: before they get him yeah without

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: you know harping on this too much I give

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: him definite pass

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's one of the stronger

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_01]: performances in the film

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: there's an argument to be made that maybe

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: one of the things that's working here

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: that isn't working in the rest of the

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: movie is George wrote to his strengths

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: he went jet Lucas what's he good at

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_01]: he's got a fire in his eyes

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: he's good at martial arts

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: could be quite done that with other

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: actors in the film we would have had

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: better performances across the board

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_04]: could be true that kid though I

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_04]: mean I would go so far as to say

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe the most memorable Jedi death

[01:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I would agree and a moment where it was

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: like actually you're rank ranking above

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Kiari Mundi well here's the thing

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_04]: it is the only stretch of that

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: montage where it feels like oh this is

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: a thousands year old order crumbling

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: within minutes yeah right someone is

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: someone is scared and furious

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_04]: and like this is a last gas effort to

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_04]: just fight back that fails

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you buy that this kid

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: thinks that he might be able to fend off

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: the entire clone trooper army himself

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah like he's not giving up yeah

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: very good pass pass for him big path

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: we're moving on to tux

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: akin doyeni great name who plays not

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_03]: the character's name that's the actor's

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: name plays agon kolar this guy who

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe is one of the guys who gets

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: taken down by palpatine yeah alongside

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: wind you alongside wind you pass

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: well we're this movie is going to get a

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: plus from I don't like him

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: what's your problem with him I

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know I don't get enough of a

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: sense of authority and wisdom and power

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: from him physically and a lot of this

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: is I think it's an uninspired character

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: design I know that's not on him

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's not on him but I think

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: physically you're saying like plow

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: clone right yeah that dude we can't see

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: his fucking face yeah and he's got a

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: rad cockroach face yeah we all admit

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that but like what you're saying is

[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: that dude when he walks on screen you

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: buy it there's a presence yeah

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it's gonna call a never registers you

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: know what you're right

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna say I mean I'm switching

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: to fail and Jedi's there's a higher

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: standard for what I want out of them

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: um the only thing I'll say is maybe

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_03]: he's supposed to be kind of like that

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: because I mean he goes down like that

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_03]: right you know he sucks but let's

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: not talk about him anymore because

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: that's crazy because he doesn't even

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: have a line in the movie

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Matt Rowan as Orn Free Top okay I love

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: this is this sort of fat senator guy

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: he's got big tentacle heads

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: he's got like a triple chin yeah uh I

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_03]: don't know if he talks but he definitely

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: goes like this like

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: whoa like during the the Senate seems

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot yeah I like them

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah he's great he's really a lot of

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: physicality

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to be known I had uh

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: when we just announced that we were

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: doing revenge of the podcast moving on

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: to revenge of the Sith

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I had at least one person tweet at

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: me please talk about Orn Free Top

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: that's that person out of their damn

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: mind waiting for Orn Free Top to come up

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: we all give him a strong pass

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah again doing a lot with a little

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah the name of the game yeah with a

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: lot of these characters

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: oh Jesus this is terrible

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: all right anyway uh yeah good good

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: good job buddy are we over halfway

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: through this list oh yeah yeah okay

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: um we're really just honestly I think

[01:15:01] [SPEAKER_03]: most of the rest of this list is

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: just the the funeral scene and we're

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_03]: not going to talk about them

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: let's let's just keep going it's just

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_04]: faces in a crowd there's someone that

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: we definitely haven't gotten yet that's

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: my MVP

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I also want to be known I'm about to

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: throw it on the hammer I'm gonna get

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: really tough really judgmental we're

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: giving out too many passes I'm gonna

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: start getting really harsh

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who Chris's MVP is but

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: okay

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenji Oates as Saisee Teen

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that guy I don't remember

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: this guy what does he do he's

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_03]: another Jedi he's got like

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: upside down goat horns that's on the

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: council right yeah yeah he's got

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: strong eyes I know I just had was

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna lay down the hammer this is

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_04]: this is a pass this is a this is a

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: subplot clone very much similar vibe of

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: like I want to know more

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: all right Amy Allen is Ayala Sekura

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: who is the sexy twi like Jedi who gets

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_03]: like and I'm sorry to say it but she

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: is yeah she's the sexy Jedi very

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: appealing and she gets shot in the

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: back and and she's on like the most

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: outrageously designed planet that's

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: like giant flowers and shit it's

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like a sub avatar type planet and

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: it really annoys me every time I see

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: it

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: anyway I don't like her she thinks she

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's bad I'm giving her a fail

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm debating in my head because here's

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: the here's my thought process I don't

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: want to judge her just because she's

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: being pictured as the sexy Jedi well

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not wrong but for me it's more

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: the death the death is so weak

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: really bad but is that her fault

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: you know I mean she could at least

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I she doesn't sell it you know she

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't sell that something's wrong

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: it's true and here's the question I

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: heard of you Chris yeah in the

[01:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: moment before she dies do you buy her as

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: a Jedi no you're right yeah you're

[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_04]: you're that's that's actually an

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: excellent point you're right and it's

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: it's also the placement in that montage

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_04]: means that things should be building

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: and it actually dips I agree with

[01:16:44] [SPEAKER_04]: that's partially I agree with you

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: there's not totally on her that's

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: partially on her and and her character

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: her presence feels like pandering to

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: throw in a sexy lady Jedi there's

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: some strong female Jedi's

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: you yaddle ever heard of her the

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: one below pushed out

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm moving on uh Sandy Finlay

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: who plays Slymore this person

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: it's sort of like a white lady with

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: crazy white eyes and a big high collar

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember who she is is she

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: another one of Palpatine's person

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah she's one of Palpatine's crew

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Chris loves this one

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_03]: who is

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't fucking know

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like a Slymore

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: do you know who this is

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah she's Palpatine's crew she's

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: always over Palpatine's shoulder

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I think she's actually

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's sitting next to him in

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: the opera and then stands up to

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: leave so Anakin can take her seat

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: correct and I think also when he

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: makes this big reveal like I have

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: now been scarred by the Jedi in front

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: of the sense she's like over her

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: shoulder

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: she's in clones as well

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I give her fuck I give her a

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm giving her a fail

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying fail

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's creepy

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: okay anyway the fails when

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Genevieve O'Reilly is Mon Mothma

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't it's like a redheaded woman

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I think she hangs out with

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: don't remember

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and question mark yeah

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: okay wait I actually need to look

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: some of these people up because I

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: don't know who they are fangs

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_03]: are no that's not a person

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: sorry no

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: character actor

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Warren Owens is the actor

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: okay you have a picture

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I do I do have a picture for

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: you want to see

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: he's a senator apparently

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah fangs are I want to know

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll fail

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: he's an old guy with a beard

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who he is

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: all right all right

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: okay here we go

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: this is good this is good

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Matthew Wood as General Grievous

[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: fail now you want to talk about this one

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: what a fucking piece of

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_04]: shit character what a pile of

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_04]: shit performance

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_04]: what an insulting to everybody's

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking intelligence both

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_04]: intellectually and emotionally

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_04]: speaking

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_04]: what a fucking train wrecked

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: character

[01:18:48] [SPEAKER_04]: skittering around on the floor

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_04]: like a little

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking jerk when you're supposed

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: to be this person everybody's

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_04]: chasing how did this person rise to

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_04]: prominence in any army

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_04]: why are the Jedi so obsessed with

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_04]: getting this bumbling fool that

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: can't do anything right

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_04]: none of it makes sense the

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_04]: performance is deplorable

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I hate it I hate everything about

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: General Grievous

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it three fails here no question

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also going to give him my LVP

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give him my award for

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: me as a valuable player

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_03]: absolutely I didn't give out a

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: value most valuable player

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who I'd give it to

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I'm going to think about

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: that it might be Sam Jackson

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_03]: anyway that's as what is your MVP

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I am wondering who the MVP is

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I got mine

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: all right so I think this might

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: be a is it Ben Cook as Kit Fisto

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Kit Fisto is the shit

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: did you sense from the Kiari

[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Mundi plow clone obsession

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I got it I got the

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: is there a character in these

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: movies that you see less of that

[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_04]: you want more of more than kit

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto and the second one in the

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: third one give me my fisto

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_04]: what's the deal he looks cool

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_04]: acts cool everything about kit

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: fistos fucking cool

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_04]: carries this film

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: carries this film

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_04]: absolute MVP without this

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_04]: without without the keystone that

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_04]: is kit fisto this whole movie

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_04]: crumbles kit fisto by far

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: by far you get this sense

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I could tell you I saw kit fisto

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_04]: for roughly four seconds in this

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_04]: film here's what I know

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: kit fisto Jedi master yeah but

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: probably on the younger side

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_04]: probably on the more rebellious

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_04]: side goes off and does kit

[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: fistos thing a little too often

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: for the Jedi Council's comfort

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: but gets things done his own way

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: maybe doesn't need the clones

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_04]: as much as others maybe he's one

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_04]: of the ones that's voiced some

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_04]: discontent about why are we

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: relying on this because it's easy

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: that's never been our way

[01:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: kit fisto is someone who gets out

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_04]: in the field doesn't think kit

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto doesn't care if he needs to

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_04]: go undercover clandestine for months

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: even years at a time kit fisto

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: gets the job done maybe kit

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto doesn't play nice with

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: others maybe kit fisto doesn't get

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: along with everybody all the time

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_04]: he doesn't play the politics he

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_04]: doesn't play the game

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_04]: he goes and he gets it done like a

[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Jedi kit fisto MVP now always

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_04]: sorok wow just to clarify

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: you guys is the guy with the green

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_03]: treadlocks he's got big black

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: bug eyes big bug eyes and treadlocks

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: in the second movie i think he pushes

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: someone over a drawing over and he's

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: like he's got like six like a mother

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: when they go inside that big stadium

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_04]: that's very convenient for the

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking battle

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: he's running like i'm going to

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: fuck

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_04]: shit up and he's psyched that he

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_04]: gets to do it

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_04]: kit fisto seems you know what it

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_04]: seems like

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_04]: like every Jedi master has a stretch

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: before he's a master

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_04]: where he just gets real into the

[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: fact that he can fuck shit up

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_04]: and i get the sense that kit

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto is right in that phase

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: he hasn't settled down yet

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_04]: it's not about wisdom it's about

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking shit up

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and talk about tragedy cut down

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the prime of his life i mean you're

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_01]: saying this is a man with only

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_01]: potential ahead of him

[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: my guess is that if you like it

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_04]: like if i would have to because

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_04]: i'd have to imagine that these

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Jedi as individuals are legendary

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_04]: characters like

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_04]: like uh you know like baseball

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: players or basketball players are to

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_04]: us when we're kids

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and i have to imagine i don't

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: think kit fisto is the lebron

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_04]: james that's probably yoda

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah sure right and then you got

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_04]: kevin duran is probably mace windu

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah uh key adi mundi is probably i

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_04]: think he's demarcus cousins he's

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_04]: like a demarcus how the fuck did

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: you do this you're talking about

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_04]: basketball yeah demarcus who's your

[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: who's your kit fester then it's

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: like an egodala west bro oh that's

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: great it fisto is west brook all

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: day

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah all day he just brings the

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: tell me that doesn't make no no

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: makes total sense it makes so he's

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: someone who approaches his job with

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_03]: joy and energy and fury is a wrecking

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_04]: ball but that means it's like but here's

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: the thing

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_04]: like but he needs to be pulled back

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_04]: sometimes and a surprisingly high

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: assist great yeah you know like you

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_04]: think he's a wrecking ball in a ball

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: hog but guess what sir jabaka

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: is not hitting corner threes without

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: west brook going one on four and

[01:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: drawing all the attention but kit

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto enters situation he's you know

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: what he is

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: he's responsible anakin

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah so you think maybe they should

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: just invest in the anakin money

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: right and get best i want to see

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: movie about kit fisto do you want to

[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: see it with the audio monday and

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: poclun yeah i want to three of them

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_04]: hang it out tell me you wouldn't watch

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: a movie was that what's that were you

[01:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: kidding me jedi wrecking through

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: those are the three everybody wants to

[01:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: see so do you want to know something

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: interesting about ben cook who put

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: it this is like us snake eyes from

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_04]: gi joe yeah he's snake eyes uh-huh

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: now i just want to show you here's

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: a picture of ben cook every here he

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: is

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: what does that guy look like who does

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_01]: he look like jason say them guess

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: who he is jason say them some double

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my god that's he plays jason

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: he's jason say them some double in

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: like so many movies wow man for the

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: list of a fight coordinator and a lot

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: of movies people obsessed with kit

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: fisto yes oh yeah i think it first show

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: is a real because he look at his look

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: you know the best there's like a big

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_03]: kid fist so far really glad that any

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_04]: place i can get more info on kit

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: fisto wikipedia will tell you lots

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: about kit fisto and are there

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: comic books and shit i think so do

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: we know yeah there's expanded

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: universe

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: this is a lot of expanding all the

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_03]: kids we're basically done but there are

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: come on we're not done we're just getting

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: started we just got the fisto there are

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: two performances i really want to highlight

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: kit kit single syllable strong kit it's

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_04]: not like plakvar one of these dumb

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking buzz bee whatever these

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking dumb george lucas names are

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_04]: they're not plakvar buzzes kit

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto no my god

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: fisto he's a jedi he's a fighter

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_04]: it makes sense even plo clune is

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_04]: pushing kiyoti money rad name

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_04]: plo clune right on the edge yeah

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_04]: kit fisto tell me more

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_03]: what are you looking up there i mean i

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: think we have to do a little character

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_01]: spotlight for kiff fisto just cuz

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: chris demanto i want to know everything

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_03]: about kiff no but i i like chris's take

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: more than i'm gonna like whatever

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: bullshit is on wikipedia mvp baby

[01:24:39] [SPEAKER_03]: mvp now carries this in the third

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: movie i'm pretty sure all he does is

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: get stabbed in the heart

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: carries this movie

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: carry in another and the first one i

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: think he's sitting on the council

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_04]: not in the first one not in the first

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_04]: person clones so in the second one he's

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_04]: just in that battle scene yeah but he

[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: doesn't care about so is he even a

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: master's he just a knight it's a good

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_04]: question i bet he's just a knight

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_04]: chris is slamming his bed he's just a

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: night sorry i invoked fear real a real

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_04]: look of fear i briefly glance at

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: what are you doing mother fucking

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: fist i like the rustle westbrook

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: compares he's the what so who's

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: is it who's anakin in this anakin

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: because i feel like anakin you know

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_03]: it's sort of like great potential

[01:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: but loss i have to let it go griffin

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: you have to imagine you have to

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: understand it is the type of thing people

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: love i know i just you don't love i'm

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: looking him up i'll find a good anakin

[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_03]: is like uh is he like a greg odin is he

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: like a you know because greg odin's a

[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: little more tragic in that he never

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: even got out right it's true you need

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: someone who at least had a brief run

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: but then tyreek evans tyreek evans

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: great great great rookie of the year

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: but where'd he go where'd he go is

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: he's taking shots away from anthony

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_04]: davis player he really is tyreek

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_04]: evans or maybe brandon jennings

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_03]: but brandon jennings i think jennings

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: could figure it out i still like i

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: still hope for brandon jennings

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: he's kind of come back

[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah although break and turn is a

[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: killies or whatever he did that's

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah you said kiati mondi was a

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: demarkas cousin so did you think

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: demarkas cousin's a little emotional

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah i guess i think kiati mondi's

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: cousin's a little cool

[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: well demarkas cousins could be almost

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: like a account dooku or a

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: i'll tell you who kiati mondi is

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: andre miller

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: oh wow you're going for the professor

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah all right

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_04]: but still but like because he's old

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_04]: but still wiley

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: and still is right in there

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: he can use his physicality

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_04]: yes and his smarts and his whiz

[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_04]: kiati mondi's been around a while

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_03]: you know

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: you know you know who anakin is once

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_03]: he turns into darth vader

[01:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: who's that he might be kobi brian

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: right

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_03]: you know he's like limited all of a

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_03]: sudden you know he's still got it

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: all but he can't use it all anymore

[01:26:38] [SPEAKER_03]: he's got all in his head

[01:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: but he's physically limited

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: and he invokes fear

[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_03]: you know he has to just be about image

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: at that point

[01:26:46] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah and he has to be about attitude

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: okay just a few little tidbits

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: so i mean i'm saying present day

[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: kobi brian yes yes i understand

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: kobi brian

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: uh kit festo

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_04]: did you watch the minnesota game last

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_04]: night i watched the whole game

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: i didn't

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: although i have hibbert on my fantasy

[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_04]: team i took a chance on him

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you got to double double

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah you know he's gonna

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: double double double double double two

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_04]: blocks i'll take that

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_03]: ten for ten on free throws i'll take

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_03]: i took i took i took

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: porzingus is my last pick

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you did you got him last that's

[01:27:12] [SPEAKER_03]: awesome yeah i know i was pretty

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: happy about it

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: dude i picked up jerald green

[01:27:16] [SPEAKER_04]: and rodney hood

[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_04]: my last two and last night they both

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: played great i had him on the bench

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_03]: but they played rodney hood is gonna

[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: pour in buckets

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: seriously that team doesn't have a

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_04]: point card jerald green had five three

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_04]: point

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: okay so i hate everything that's

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: happening

[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: um i just want you to know did you

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: watch the next last night though it

[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: was genuinely i did watch some of the

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: nicks it was awesome

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: kit festo

[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: yes yes yes his distinctive head

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: tentacles

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: contained highly sensitive olfactory

[01:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: receptors

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_04]: yes he smells to his tentacles

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: yes that allowed him to detect

[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: pheromonal expressions of emotion

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_01]: yes he could smell emotion

[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: yes and other changes in body

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: chemistry

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_01]: what a crazy power this was indeed a

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: unique attribute not afforded to any

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: other species of jedi

[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_03]: so was it is it his species or is it

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_03]: him his combination of his species and

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_03]: his jedi ability both

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: oh nice

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: he was a master he was on the high

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: council

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: what's his what's his planet what's

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: his race yeah what's his alien

[01:28:09] [SPEAKER_03]: type

[01:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: his alien type there's a lot of

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: tentacle peoples in this in this

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: universe yeah the twi leg uh which i

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: think there maybe was only that one

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_04]: people like i see another step is twi

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: look at yeah

[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: his plan there is another guy

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a guy i think please his

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: his home world is called glee

[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and selma

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: huh i like that cool all right his

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: species is that he is a nautiland

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: no i don't know how to live he

[01:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: had that kind of a nice old fashion

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_01]: name

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: dude fuck so he's amphibious

[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: he's an amphibious jedi like a

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: mother i'm gonna let you because this

[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: is a very long walkie-pidi entry

[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: give me your phone i just read some of

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: the yes the headings yes of the

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: separate sections yes for how cool

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: this guy's history was okay

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: battle of genosis we know this this

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: is when he comes into the arena

[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: starts fighting the club

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: battle of mon calamari

[01:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: oh tasty and look it's him shirtless

[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: underwater fighting with a lightsaber

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: underwater is this from a comic book

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_03]: or something let me say yeah holy

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: shit ripped skirmish on camino

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: not a battle skirmish just a skirmish

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: you know why i was just a skirmish

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: because fisto ended in work he nipped

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that shit in the bud

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: camino termite is the planet where the

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: clones are made that's true maybe

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: skirmish someone was trying to shut

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: down those clones skirmish on devaron

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: okay whatever yeah mission on ord

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_03]: sestas down to mission so he's a

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe secret agent stuff at that

[01:29:35] [SPEAKER_03]: point this is like trading this guy

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: goes undercover he don't bring

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_03]: it's crazy to imagine a guy with

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_04]: 55 clones in a big weird helicopter

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_04]: with his green tentacle hair how's he

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: gonna go under smells your happiness

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_04]: and he gets it done smells your

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: deception in your life

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: dual with a cyborg what who damn

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: why isn't this in the movie though this

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: is the thing anytime i read this

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_03]: shit you're like wait where is this

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: in the movie all this shit fisto this

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: is why fisto so fisto is i feel like

[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: even though again all fisto doesn't

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: three is get like cut into pieces by

[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: palpate he at least fights him for a

[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: second he fights pump does he come in

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: with mace window yeah and that cool

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: badass shot where they walk through

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: he's what's cool and badass about it

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: return to monkelemar

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_04]: you remember that for more wouldn't

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: honest to god and i know i'm hyping

[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_04]: them up i know i'm flipping out yeah but

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it's fun it's just this is the

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_04]: star wars fanboy yeah not that i

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: grew up with it

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: but i locked into it but like if you

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: bought a star wars toy you might

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: want yourself of kip fisto kip

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm just saying wouldn't you if they let

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_04]: those jedi charge in and mace window

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: charged in it was like go and kit fist

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_04]: you kit fist ran forward and it was

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_04]: like a three minute battle between pal

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_04]: patina fisto wouldn't it be

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: significantly better move yeah no

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: question i mean it would probably have

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: been on oscar contender in that case

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: right

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: absolutely no question there's and

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: statham stunt double amazing

[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: killed how are we doing on time

[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: ben

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: we're at 90 minutes cool so we got to

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: wrap this up okay lightning but i got

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: no there's two more i want to talk about

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_03]: okay two more i want to talk about one

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_03]: is james url jones is darth vader

[01:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: uncredited by the way i'm credit which

[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: is crazy

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: buried down here deep but james url

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: jones the guy from the sandlot

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah i feel the dream yeah for those

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_04]: baseball movies yeah i thought he only

[01:31:29] [SPEAKER_04]: did baseball movies

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: apparently they brought him out just

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: for one non-baseball movie weird that

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: we're talking about he's an alion king

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_04]: you know why didn't they let a christian

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: he's the voice of cnn well maybe they

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: really want to sell you on this guy's

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: done

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: this guy's so done he's got a holding

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: pass

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: you could say yeah pass 100 percent

[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: we're voting well now but how do you

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: fit how do you where do you come down

[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: on the no

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: the no oh come on it's pretty rough

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's up yeah so that's on james

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: that's on jimmy it's a robust no i

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: don't like it as a character choice you

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: know like on george's part but he

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: delivers it i mean

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: he hits the consonants well the vowels

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: you know yeah it's consonant it's only

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: one constant in the word now i thought

[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it was maybe like five and then like

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: 20 no no okay here's the final

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: character i wanted the final

[01:32:24] [SPEAKER_03]: performance i want to mention that i

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: did not know existed until just now

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: george lucas uh-huh as baron

[01:32:30] [SPEAKER_03]: papanoid yep uh here's a picture of him

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: uh-huh he is apparently in the audience

[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_03]: in the opera house he's outside you see

[01:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: him outside yeah outside with his

[01:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: daughter while we're deciding may i let

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: you know what the score is please we

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: have 17 and a half pass wow

[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: wow 17 and a half fail what holy

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: shit you undecided so this is gonna

[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: make or break your overall performance

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: review every so it's all on george

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: lucas every time we say we're gonna come

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: down hard and it's so are you kidding me

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: dude we gave like eight passes to guys

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you don't have dialogue in this movie

[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: but they got presents one was a salty

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: old space dog and nailed it he

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_04]: took he took any ran at home

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_01]: can i give up just a few little

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: details about papanoid here they are

[01:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: there he is

[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: fail i just let me say a few things

[01:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: fail let me say it's a hard fail he's a

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: statesman and a playwright

[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: he was an influential figure in

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: core sound affairs a well-known

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: intelligence provider anti palpatine

[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: us you didn't even know there was an

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: anti palpatine movement and lover

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: of the performance arts fail i got

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: none of that

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_03]: he's not selling it i got not none of

[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_03]: that came across we're talking about

[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_03]: a guy who's never acted before in shows

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: he looks really physically uncomfortable

[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: on screen really i will say his arm

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: movements are really inflated like his

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: sort of bullfrog waddle you know he

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: has that kind of chin you know that

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: goes all the way to the neck which

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: theoretically should work well for an

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: alien it looks weird it looks awkward

[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: he's got a cane in one hand and he's

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: like just a gesturing with the

[01:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: other hand talking to his daughter

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: outside the theater and he looks

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: uncomfortable it's a fail so i just

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_01]: can't think of a better way to wrap

[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: it up than with george lucas

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: failing the entire cast in star wars

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: because of him

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_01]: remenja the acting is bad and revenge

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: of the same kaboom what do you think

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_04]: chris i would say that kit fisto is

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: so good that he might get two pens

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and even it back audacious that would

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: tie it up so final awards i give i give

[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: picked her in my mvp

[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i get matthew wood who by the

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_01]: way was a sound engineer

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah the voice of green they didn't

[01:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: even fucking hire an actor

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: wow they almost have gary oldman

[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and old man couldn't do it so they went

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: to matthew wood down the hall and who

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_01]: was your mvp my mvp is e mcderman's

[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_01]: palpatine my lvp is uh matthew wood is

[01:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: grievous yeah he's my lvp and we give

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: out a motion yeah i don't want to

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: sound condescending it's only because

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: my give out a most improved much like

[01:35:17] [SPEAKER_01]: the mba okay yeah i only because my

[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: mvp is already taken i give most

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_01]: improved to kit fisto because he

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_01]: does bring it in this movie and that's

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: not like a pat on the back i'm saying

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like he improved like so much from the

[01:35:27] [SPEAKER_01]: second or third that he almost took mvp

[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i mean for me it's gonna be jeremy

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: bullock he brought it home

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: it's your ulti space dog is your most

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: improved no i'm just kidding he wasn't

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: even in the previous no i don't know

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: who my mvp is old space it's a

[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: salty old space dog i think you said

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: sam jackson i think sam jackson's my

[01:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: mvp and i wish he was in more of

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_01]: this movie lvp is matthew wood

[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: my god what was he thinking it's the

[01:35:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Dracula accent that bothers me

[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: honestly more than anything else the

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: coughing yeah deal breaker for me

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: um most improved

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_03]: as is anyone improved in this movie you

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: were giving it to kit fisto

[01:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah i think he's i think he's better

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: in clones what he knocks over a droid

[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_03]: it's awesome in clones he does all

[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_03]: kinds of cool shit i don't know

[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_03]: this i'm actually mad

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_05]: oh my god i don't know i don't have

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: the most improved i give up mvp

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: kit fisto lvp general grievous most

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_04]: improved also kit

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_03]: oh boy well then final yeah ben please

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: um i don't know man like like i said you

[01:36:40] [SPEAKER_03]: are scarlet with rage your ginger

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: gentlemen to begin with

[01:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and now your face is even redder than

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_01]: your facial hair final thoughts

[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: kenny baker's a little person right

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah he's a little okay well i just

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: found that out

[01:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: that's your final thought thank you ben

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: the peeper himself what do you

[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_01]: thought you thought it was a full-sized

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: human inside a little trash can who knows

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: i don't know i was yeah i mean it's not

[01:37:06] [SPEAKER_02]: clear how they it's true could be

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: perspective yeah weird perspective

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff okay ben i'd like to clock your

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: anger because fear least anger and

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_01]: anger least a hate and hate leads to

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: suffering okay chris thank you so much

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: for coming to our podcast thanks for

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: sharing your confisto thoughts scholar

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and a gentleman and uh i i hope you've

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: made a compelling case to our listeners

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: that get this though is really the

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: star of this film i feel like most people

[01:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: already agree yeah i mean but i think i

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: think there might be a new wave of

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: support just as a result right

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: you know i could see it change takes

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_01]: time you know yeah and we're living in

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: new york city amongst like turned on

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_01]: people who are really like smart and

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: with it ahead of the curve this

[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: podcast goes out across the world

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: there's maybe some kid in Uganda

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: right now

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_04]: i feel like the log line of this movie

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_04]: is one young nautiland warrior returns

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_04]: back to base

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: uh

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_03]: the moment's too late it's true if only

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: he was on this shit earlier if only he

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_03]: was in charge of Anakin rather than

[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_03]: mace windu with balls

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you don't think mace windu's got any

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: balls i think he's i think mace

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_04]: windu is too slogged down in red tape

[01:38:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and kit fist oh doesn't buy it yeah

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_03]: he's just renegade yeah yeah he

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't have to worry about that stuff

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_03]: nope any other thoughts chris as you

[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: leave us uh let's see the other people

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: i have on my fantasy team i took kevin

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_04]: love when hassan whiteside is still

[01:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: available i don't know if i like that

[01:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: kevin loves a good choice did you see

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: the one saying they're gonna run the

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: offense through kevin low and hassan

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: whiteside it's kind of a riff and

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you're starting to kind of get what

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_02]: i'm i got every week now i i finally

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: understand this is this is

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: your channel for me last night

[01:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: that's good yep this is what feels like

[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: haunted goblins and vanguards

[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: i just wanted to send you every week

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to talk about my percentages get me

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: back it just sounds like another

[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_00]: language happening in front of you

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_00]: i mean yeah that's what this feels like

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: right now you did i don't understand it

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and i'm angry simultaneously right

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: no i always but you can't you got

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: down when like 16 you could off

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: so happy and i'm not gonna be

[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: he's this is a terrible podcasting

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: right now i've always wanted to

[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: talk with john london

[01:39:09] [SPEAKER_04]: well last year i picked first this

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: year i picked last he always goes

[01:39:12] [SPEAKER_04]: right i almost got him sure i would

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: love to have john london that's

[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_04]: very it's appropriate gonna be

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm not i'm not sad about uh

[01:39:20] [SPEAKER_04]: demian lily you like it i prefer

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: at least right lily's gonna be great

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and paul george i think will be good

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_04]: honestly you know who i took to

[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_04]: jay mccollom i mean he scored 37 points

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: last night so you guys gonna go off

[01:39:30] [SPEAKER_04]: this year i'm not gonna love this

[01:39:31] [SPEAKER_03]: guy he was like portland that's awesome

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah i could feel like i could come up

[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: with a cooler character exactly i did

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: ask if you were in love with him

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_02]: i asked if you love him there's

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: a difference in being in love and

[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: loving trying to i don't love i

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: honestly i'll put it as a challenge

[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: i'll i'll show you i bet i could

[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: come up with a better character by

[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: okay that's your assignment next week

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: you have to come up with a better

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_04]: phone i want to show david my fantasy

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: team okay so thank you so much for

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: listening to this show thank you guys

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: it's right behind you rate review

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: subscribe i'm really busy finishing

[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the podcast i'm sorry my hands are

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: occupied um uh david don't hand that

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: phone over to chris well we're

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: signing off great review and subscribe

[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: listen to other usb podcast next

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: week ben's gonna come up with an

[01:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: original character that sounds awesome

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: star is what if segment this is

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: if al pechino was a battle droid

[01:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: roger roger and as always so it's

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: always going to be pechino i don't know

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: we're pressed for time we always put

[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it off to the last seconds i don't

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: know what else to do uh merchandise

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: spotlight by a kip fisto action

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: figure um and this is this is a great

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: one this is a great one this is a

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_03]: great one was it okay oh this one

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: the best oh yeah this is a great

[01:40:36] [SPEAKER_03]: one performance review it's always

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_03]: a knockout this is maybe the

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: kids just love episodes dare i say

[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_03]: in that it was a bit of a renegade

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was brave and and dashing and

[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: greg munro how did i forget i have

[01:40:48] [SPEAKER_04]: greg munro too awesome

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_04]: brandon night and as always myers

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Leonard i got my eyes on her too

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: fuck basketball

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_00]: fuck basketball

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: over resist should i drop him already

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that's always fuck basketball

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_03]: always fuck basketball and perpetuity

[01:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: bye guys thanks for listening