Piranha II: The Spawning

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with what's a say or two expert

[00:00:14] All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check

[00:00:21] It's... podcast to The Spawning!

[00:00:25] That's a great line in that movie

[00:00:27] What the fuck? No one's gonna know. No one's watching this but I think this will be

[00:00:31] No one will watch it

[00:00:32] There is no thing we have covered including the buried secret of M. Night Shyamalan

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[00:00:38] I think more people look that up on YouTube

[00:00:40] I don't think many people watch that

[00:00:42] I don't know if anyone's gonna fucking watch this

[00:00:44] This is a great start to our new miniseries

[00:00:46] Guys, I'm David Sims

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[00:00:49] This is a podcast called Blank Check

[00:00:51] We go through the filmographies of directors who experience early success

[00:00:56] And then are given a series of blank checks by Hollywood to do crazy passion projects

[00:01:00] Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce baby

[00:01:04] Sure

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[00:01:07] We talked about a lot of filming

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[00:01:10] George Lucas

[00:01:11] Boom

[00:01:12] M. Night Shyamalan

[00:01:13] Haha

[00:01:14] The Wachowskis

[00:01:15] Oh-hooo

[00:01:16] Cameron Crow

[00:01:18] Coo-coo-coo

[00:01:19] And now we got a new director on deck

[00:01:21] Good old Jimmy Cameron

[00:01:23] That's right

[00:01:24] You voted for him

[00:01:25] We gave him to you on delay

[00:01:27] Eventually

[00:01:28] You demanded him and we kinda heard you

[00:01:31] Yeah, we heard you at an echo

[00:01:34] This is back to back Camerons

[00:01:37] Back to back cams but not a first name this time

[00:01:40] A last name

[00:01:41] Hey now

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[00:01:44] Names Francis Cameron

[00:01:46] And by the way, because everyone's been waiting

[00:01:48] The name of this miniseries is

[00:01:50] After much debate and hand-wringing

[00:01:52] The name of this miniseries is

[00:01:54] Ahem

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[00:02:00] You don't have to say the colon aloud

[00:02:02] I mean Griffin does but you

[00:02:04] The viewer, listener does not

[00:02:06] Look

[00:02:07] It's your call

[00:02:08] It'd be pretty cool if you did

[00:02:09] Now we know it's a bad name

[00:02:11] We know

[00:02:12] You can tell us but we know

[00:02:13] We would argue we had no better options

[00:02:15] We thought long and hard

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[00:02:18] And there were no good options

[00:02:20] Pardon me like one of your cast girls

[00:02:22] Sounds like a threat of sexual assault

[00:02:24] It does

[00:02:25] I had suggested POT Alien Cast

[00:02:27] He did indeed

[00:02:29] Who's he?

[00:02:30] Well, of course that is the

[00:02:32] Noble producer of our show

[00:02:35] In addition to being one of the

[00:02:37] World's finest film critics

[00:02:38] In fact, nay, the world's finest

[00:02:40] Film critic

[00:02:41] Alan Buffing and down

[00:02:43] He is the producer of the show

[00:02:45] He is producer Ben

[00:02:46] He's the pro-doer

[00:02:47] He's the Ben Dooser

[00:02:48] He's Mr. Hositive

[00:02:50] He's birthday Benny

[00:02:51] He's the tiebreaker

[00:02:52] He's the fuckmaster

[00:02:53] He is not Professor Crispy

[00:02:54] He is the peeper

[00:02:56] Yeah

[00:02:57] Oh, what's the new one?

[00:02:58] Great or hot white Benny

[00:03:00] Right? That was one

[00:03:02] Hot white Benny

[00:03:03] There was a white hot Benny

[00:03:05] Or something, white hot Benny

[00:03:06] Floated in one episode

[00:03:07] I forget which one

[00:03:08] Oh yeah, I can't hear you track this

[00:03:09] Listeners tweeted us

[00:03:11] About whatever that is

[00:03:12] Cause I forgot

[00:03:13] Yeah, I forgot too

[00:03:14] Guys

[00:03:15] Great, greet him with a

[00:03:16] Hello fennel

[00:03:17] Yeah

[00:03:18] If you see him on the streets

[00:03:19] Uh-huh

[00:03:20] Fuckmaster in the sheets

[00:03:21] I know I repeated that one

[00:03:22] But that's- I can't

[00:03:24] Avoid that joke opportunity

[00:03:25] Cause that just came to me

[00:03:28] Uh, what else- what else to say about him

[00:03:30] Well, of course, you know

[00:03:31] We've done different miniseries

[00:03:32] At the end of miniseries

[00:03:33] He, um, you know

[00:03:35] Graduates to different titles

[00:03:37] Uh, such as

[00:03:39] Producer Ben Canove

[00:03:40] Kylo Ben

[00:03:41] Mmm

[00:03:42] Ben and Chom one

[00:03:43] Yep, that was easy

[00:03:44] Ben's eight

[00:03:45] Sure, it was obvious

[00:03:46] Yeah, and

[00:03:47] The results of our poll

[00:03:49] We had a poll?

[00:03:50] We had a poll

[00:03:51] We podcast?

[00:03:52] We podcast and we had a poll

[00:03:54] And-

[00:03:55] I missed this, was this on our Twitter?

[00:03:56] Yes

[00:03:57] Uh, was 17% coming up the rear

[00:03:59] Uh, aloha's?

[00:04:01] I don't even- oh aloha's

[00:04:03] I get it, that's cute

[00:04:04] I thought so too

[00:04:05] It doesn't look great

[00:04:06] But it sounds fun

[00:04:07] Yeah, it's very subtle, subtle, loud

[00:04:09] Yes

[00:04:10] 19% in second place

[00:04:11] I was surprised

[00:04:12] Cause I thought this was gonna be the winner

[00:04:13] Say Benny thing

[00:04:14] Oh say Benny thing didn't make it?

[00:04:15] Came in third place

[00:04:17] Okay

[00:04:18] In second place with 30%

[00:04:21] Benilla Sky

[00:04:22] Ha ha ha

[00:04:23] Now here's the thing

[00:04:25] Oh boy

[00:04:26] I think that would have been the best nickname

[00:04:28] I think we shot ourselves in the foot

[00:04:30] By mispronouncing vanilla sky all season

[00:04:32] Vanilla sky?

[00:04:33] Right, and then we went to vanilla sky

[00:04:34] Sometime- okay

[00:04:35] Okay, but what's the winner?

[00:04:36] And the winner with 34%

[00:04:38] Benny Lane

[00:04:39] He is now officially

[00:04:40] Alright Benny Lane

[00:04:41] Benny Lane

[00:04:42] You made it

[00:04:43] Is in our hearts

[00:04:44] Okay

[00:04:45] Yeah

[00:04:46] Ben Huzzley

[00:04:47] Ben Huzzley's here

[00:04:48] And we're talking

[00:04:49] He's holding his arms up in the air

[00:04:51] He is

[00:04:52] I like Kate Winslet

[00:04:53] Yes, on the ballot that Titanic

[00:04:55] That's right

[00:04:56] Yeah

[00:04:57] Kate and Leo

[00:04:58] We had you

[00:04:59] But we're not at Hello Fennel

[00:05:00] We're not at Kate and Leo

[00:05:01] We're not

[00:05:02] We're not even close to Kate and Leo

[00:05:03] This is an inauspicious debut

[00:05:05] We are at Trisha and Steve

[00:05:07] Who are the romantic leads of this movie

[00:05:09] I feel confident

[00:05:10] Committing an episode to a movie

[00:05:12] That no one will fucking watch

[00:05:13] No

[00:05:14] Because every movie we're gonna be talking about from here

[00:05:16] Is the biggest movie of all time

[00:05:17] It's insane

[00:05:18] There are no dips at this point

[00:05:19] What a run

[00:05:20] We've done a blank check guy every time

[00:05:22] Who's guy or girl

[00:05:23] Who's been sort of

[00:05:25] Early success

[00:05:27] Oh no

[00:05:28] Crazy

[00:05:29] Bottoming out

[00:05:30] Maybe a rebound

[00:05:31] And then

[00:05:32] Ooh, something really weird

[00:05:33] Bit of an up and down

[00:05:34] James Cameron is

[00:05:35] Up, up, up baby

[00:05:36] Yeah

[00:05:37] Basically

[00:05:38] He gets a bigger check every time

[00:05:39] Yeah

[00:05:40] And it clears

[00:05:41] With one exception

[00:05:43] They all basically do better than the last one

[00:05:45] And here's the thing

[00:05:46] The one exception

[00:05:47] The one that bombed at the time

[00:05:49] Yeah, quote unquote bombed

[00:05:50] The abyss is what we're talking about

[00:05:51] Was a disappointment

[00:05:52] Right

[00:05:53] Has now like

[00:05:54] Undergone like a serious critical re-evaluation

[00:05:56] People love it

[00:05:57] It's a beloved movie

[00:05:58] It's a groundbreaking movie

[00:05:59] It may be his least beloved

[00:06:00] But it's still pretty beloved

[00:06:01] Any other filmmaker would be very happy

[00:06:03] To have the abyss in there

[00:06:04] And have the courage

[00:06:05] Groundbreaking

[00:06:07] Damn

[00:06:08] That was good

[00:06:09] That was good

[00:06:10] Yeah, that was good

[00:06:11] Game recognized game

[00:06:12] Let's get out of here

[00:06:13] Ben's doing a lot of hand gestures

[00:06:15] He's dancing right now in his seat

[00:06:17] So

[00:06:18] James Cameron

[00:06:19] Yes

[00:06:20] Let me give you a little back story

[00:06:21] Of Jimmy C

[00:06:22] We call him

[00:06:23] Yeah

[00:06:24] I mean that's what I call him

[00:06:25] Jimmy C to his friend

[00:06:26] Jimmy C

[00:06:27] He was born in 1954

[00:06:28] Good year

[00:06:29] In Ontario, Canada

[00:06:30] I can't even say the name

[00:06:31] And he grew up in Chippewa, Ontario

[00:06:33] Okay

[00:06:34] Which is I believe where Leo's character is from

[00:06:36] Except they've not been able to say Ontario

[00:06:38] He's from

[00:06:39] In Satanic

[00:06:40] In Satanic he's from Chippewa

[00:06:41] Camera

[00:06:42] We'll get back to that

[00:06:43] Yeah

[00:06:44] So he's a Canadian boy

[00:06:45] Uh-huh

[00:06:46] You know

[00:06:47] Goes to school

[00:06:48] Oh yeah

[00:06:49] Drops out of one high school

[00:06:50] Yeah, exactly

[00:06:51] Take it easy baby

[00:06:52] Make it last, make it last all night

[00:06:54] James was

[00:06:55] A Canadian boy

[00:06:57] Great

[00:06:58] And we just got a mean review saying

[00:07:00] I cut you off too much

[00:07:01] So I didn't cut you off

[00:07:02] And during that

[00:07:04] Uh, he enrolled in college

[00:07:06] He dropped out of college

[00:07:07] Cool beans

[00:07:08] In his 74

[00:07:10] He was a truck driver for a while

[00:07:12] And started learning about special effects

[00:07:14] Yeah

[00:07:15] Uh, and then in 1970s-70s

[00:07:18] He saw Star Wars

[00:07:19] Yeah

[00:07:20] It's a good connection to our original miniseries

[00:07:23] Yes, and I believe

[00:07:24] I might be wrong about this

[00:07:25] But I believe at some point

[00:07:26] He wanted to be sort of

[00:07:28] A engineer

[00:07:29] I think he was interested in sort of working

[00:07:31] In vehicular engineering or something like that

[00:07:34] He, um, when he went to college

[00:07:36] He was studying physics

[00:07:37] Okay

[00:07:38] Yeah, so maybe he was

[00:07:39] Not really pursuing, but he didn't last

[00:07:41] I might be misremembering this

[00:07:42] But I remember him in some interview

[00:07:43] Saying like growing up

[00:07:44] Maybe when he was younger

[00:07:45] That was sort of his idea

[00:07:46] But it makes sense because

[00:07:47] He has a very technical mind

[00:07:49] You know both in terms of structure

[00:07:50] And machinery and pushing technology

[00:07:52] But his films are very, you know

[00:07:54] Like, they're very tightly made

[00:07:57] Yeah

[00:07:58] Um

[00:07:59] His storytelling is even very technical

[00:08:01] You know

[00:08:02] Very technical

[00:08:03] Even here

[00:08:04] I just want to say

[00:08:05] He read Sid Field's book, Screenplay

[00:08:07] Okay

[00:08:08] And it occurred to him that integrating science

[00:08:10] And art was possible

[00:08:11] According to Wikipedia

[00:08:12] I don't know if that's true

[00:08:13] Uh-huh

[00:08:14] Uh, and so he, you know

[00:08:17] He bought a camera

[00:08:18] He took it apart to see how it worked

[00:08:20] He started making little movies

[00:08:21] No, true or false

[00:08:22] He did not buy a zoo, right?

[00:08:24] Didn't buy a zoo

[00:08:25] Okay, well

[00:08:26] I mean, he thought about it

[00:08:27] Yeah, I'll try not to hold that against him

[00:08:29] And then he started doing kind of

[00:08:32] PA work, second AD work, you know

[00:08:35] Worked at Roger Corman's studio

[00:08:37] Started working on B-movies

[00:08:39] Making special effects

[00:08:41] Like a lot of these guys

[00:08:43] Who came up in the 70s and 80s

[00:08:45] He applied his trade

[00:08:47] Sort of at the bottom of the Hollywood

[00:08:49] You do the nuts and bolts work

[00:08:50] Yeah, learned how to like make things fast

[00:08:52] Make things efficient

[00:08:53] Like, you know, whatever

[00:08:55] And then, uh, you know

[00:08:56] He gets tossed this job

[00:08:58] On Piranha 2 The Spawning

[00:09:00] The film we're discussing today

[00:09:02] Now you looked into the background of this film

[00:09:04] But the first film was a Roger Corman movie

[00:09:06] So the first Piranha?

[00:09:08] Which came out in, what, 78?

[00:09:10] Maybe, yeah, 78

[00:09:11] Okay, and was directed by Joe Don't

[00:09:13] Joe Don't written by John Sayles

[00:09:15] Yeah, which is a killer scene

[00:09:16] Yeah, and it was like a very straightforward parody of Joe

[00:09:19] Right

[00:09:20] Like it's a silly spoof of the like brief craze

[00:09:23] Of like underwater attack movies

[00:09:25] Orca, orca in the deep orca

[00:09:27] You had orca in the deep in all these movies

[00:09:29] And they were sort of trying to deflate the balloon a little

[00:09:32] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:09:33] And I've seen, apparently you've never seen Piranha

[00:09:35] I've never

[00:09:36] And Joe Don't says one of my favorite directors

[00:09:37] Very, very funny movie

[00:09:38] It's sort of, you know, tongue in cheek gory

[00:09:41] You know, mocking the kind of like

[00:09:44] You know, girls in bikinis

[00:09:46] And you know, like sort of all of the window dressing

[00:09:49] Of these kinds of movies, right?

[00:09:51] You know, like the sort of cheap Hollywood side of stuff

[00:09:53] Produced by Roger Corman

[00:09:55] Right

[00:09:56] The master of schlock

[00:09:57] Yeah

[00:09:58] And famous for giving a lot of filmmakers their search

[00:10:02] Yes, very much

[00:10:03] Sorsese

[00:10:04] Jonathan Demi

[00:10:06] A lot of Ron Howard

[00:10:08] A lot of these guys come out of the Corman school

[00:10:10] And the thing he would always say is like

[00:10:12] If you make a movie good enough for me

[00:10:14] You'll never have to make a movie for me ever again, you know?

[00:10:16] Yeah

[00:10:17] It was sort of very low stakes and that you just

[00:10:18] He got stuff made

[00:10:20] So he makes the first one

[00:10:22] It was his attempt to capitalize on the Jaws craze

[00:10:24] This film has no creative members in common

[00:10:28] With the first one

[00:10:29] So just Roger Corman was surprised by Perana doing well

[00:10:33] Perana did really well

[00:10:35] And I think that's sort of the problem with Roger Corman

[00:10:37] Is he was just making these

[00:10:39] He didn't have a major sense of what was actually going to do well

[00:10:42] Or be good

[00:10:43] But he's also like quantity over quality

[00:10:44] He's turning a map

[00:10:45] That's the idea, it's a factor line

[00:10:46] So Perana actually did well

[00:10:47] But in his contract

[00:10:49] He didn't have like, he didn't retain the rights

[00:10:51] The rights went to like the executive producers

[00:10:54] Including this Italian guy?

[00:10:55] Was he one of the producers?

[00:10:56] No, they took it to the Italian guy

[00:10:58] Interesting

[00:10:59] So the last people who had any creative involvement

[00:11:02] Sold it off to other people

[00:11:04] This one's entirely new team

[00:11:06] Which is kind of like Zombie 2

[00:11:08] Which is like the Italian sequel to

[00:11:11] Yeah, totally different

[00:11:12] Don and the Dead

[00:11:13] Jeff Sheterman, who is one of these guys

[00:11:16] Took it to Ovidio Asinitis

[00:11:19] Asinitis

[00:11:22] Who said he would put up the money

[00:11:24] And the one thing he wanted

[00:11:26] Was that the fish could fly

[00:11:28] Well, Perana 1, Fisher in the Ocean

[00:11:30] Perana 2, The Fish Have Wings

[00:11:33] Spoiler, he got his wish

[00:11:35] I mean, yeah, kind of

[00:11:36] He wished for a flying fish

[00:11:38] And he got it, The Fish Have Wings in this movie

[00:11:40] So first they hired a guy called Miller Drake

[00:11:44] Who is another Corman guy

[00:11:46] Apparently the director came up to him

[00:11:48] And said, want to direct the movie?

[00:11:50] And he said, sure

[00:11:51] I'm free next Tuesday, why not?

[00:11:53] They took it to the producer

[00:11:54] And the producer said, fine

[00:11:56] I'm getting this from a very good

[00:11:59] Entertainment Weekly piece from 2010

[00:12:01] That was like an oral history of all the

[00:12:03] Perana movies

[00:12:04] Including the remake that they later made

[00:12:06] Yes, this was for the release

[00:12:08] Of Perana 3D

[00:12:09] Now he wanted to bring back some of

[00:12:11] The cast from Perana 1

[00:12:12] He wanted to bring back the lead

[00:12:14] Scientist guy who gets eaten up

[00:12:16] He wanted to have him be all

[00:12:18] Like scarred and have holes in his face

[00:12:20] Or something

[00:12:21] To which I say, cool

[00:12:22] That sounds good

[00:12:23] Sounds real cool

[00:12:24] And he got makeup guys

[00:12:26] Working on this

[00:12:28] And it seems like

[00:12:30] Acinitis to the Italian producer

[00:12:32] Was just like, eh

[00:12:34] Forget it and fired him

[00:12:40] Then they call up James Cameron

[00:12:42] Who's another guy

[00:12:44] He'd worked on a second AD

[00:12:46] On some Corman thing

[00:12:48] There was this story about him

[00:12:50] And this is the first seed we have

[00:12:52] Of James Cameron

[00:12:53] Some people say it's apocryphal

[00:12:55] But they say it's true in this

[00:12:57] That he was working on

[00:12:59] He was working on some

[00:13:01] Corman, yeah

[00:13:03] It was a second AD on a movie called

[00:13:04] Galaxy of Terror

[00:13:05] And he had to direct some worms

[00:13:07] Riding around in the ground

[00:13:09] And they roll and the worms aren't moving

[00:13:11] They have these worms and they're not moving

[00:13:13] So he rigs up

[00:13:15] An electrical cord into the dirt

[00:13:17] And he's like, when I say action

[00:13:19] Turn it on

[00:13:20] And they turn it on and shock the worms

[00:13:22] And the worms start riding around

[00:13:24] And this was what convinced them

[00:13:26] This guy James Cameron

[00:13:27] He's got a future in the movie

[00:13:28] He's a problem solver

[00:13:29] He could make worms move around

[00:13:30] And he is also

[00:13:31] The legacy of James Cameron

[00:13:35] Is this is one of the most confident men

[00:13:37] In history

[00:13:38] He knows what he wants

[00:13:39] And he gets it done

[00:13:41] I'm on the IMDb trivia page

[00:13:43] For Prana 2 The Spawning

[00:13:44] And there's a really interesting

[00:13:46] Trivia fact here

[00:13:47] The piranhas in this sequel

[00:13:49] Developed an additional skill

[00:13:50] Which they did not have in

[00:13:51] Piranha 1978

[00:13:53] Period

[00:13:54] They could fly

[00:13:55] Period

[00:13:56] So that's a trivia fact for this movie

[00:13:58] So you know I think

[00:14:00] In last week's under siege episode

[00:14:02] We briefly talked about Star Trek Beyond

[00:14:04] And how when they hit pre-production

[00:14:07] Like the one thing Justin Lin was like

[00:14:08] Sure about was like

[00:14:09] I really want the Enterprise to crash

[00:14:11] Right

[00:14:12] That has to be

[00:14:13] I want them to tear it apart

[00:14:14] That has to be a big set piece

[00:14:15] And it really does seem like

[00:14:17] This Italian guy

[00:14:18] And this was not uncommon

[00:14:19] Especially in the 70s

[00:14:20] He's sort of like

[00:14:21] Exploitation movies

[00:14:22] Funded by Italian studios

[00:14:24] The Italian guys like

[00:14:25] Look, look I got the money for you

[00:14:27] And I mean

[00:14:28] It probably cost like a million bucks

[00:14:29] To make this movie

[00:14:30] Something like that

[00:14:31] But listen, listen, listen

[00:14:33] They've gotta fly

[00:14:34] They better fly

[00:14:35] Those piranha better fly

[00:14:36] What's like the famous

[00:14:37] John Peter story about the

[00:14:38] Giant spider

[00:14:39] Yeah, John Peter's and his

[00:14:40] Giant spider

[00:14:41] Which he eventually worked into

[00:14:42] Wild Wild West

[00:14:43] But he wanted it in like Superman

[00:14:45] Right, he wanted to get a giant spider

[00:14:46] In a movie

[00:14:47] He became obsessed with this idea

[00:14:48] Of there being a giant spider

[00:14:49] A giant metal spider

[00:14:50] Yes

[00:14:51] I'm all for it

[00:14:52] Yeah, well sure

[00:14:53] Yes, of course you like things big

[00:14:54] Yeah, you and John Peter's

[00:14:56] Like if that had ever happened

[00:14:57] You two just united somehow

[00:14:59] That you would have been wholly

[00:15:00] Terrible

[00:15:01] Could you imagine

[00:15:02] John Peter's and Ben

[00:15:03] Running a studio together

[00:15:04] Can you imagine just Ben running a studio

[00:15:05] That'd be great

[00:15:06] We need to start a studio

[00:15:07] I just imagined him like

[00:15:08] Sitting in a chair

[00:15:09] And he's like

[00:15:10] I like it but bigger

[00:15:11] Have you thought about this?

[00:15:13] Bigger

[00:15:14] Wet

[00:15:15] Make him wet

[00:15:16] Not wet enough

[00:15:17] I want him soaked baby

[00:15:19] These are callbacks to our old episodes

[00:15:20] So guys if you're jumping on with James Cameron

[00:15:22] Listen back we've got so many great episodes

[00:15:24] God and what a good entry point

[00:15:25] This is going to be for new listeners

[00:15:26] Piranha 2

[00:15:27] The spawning

[00:15:28] So James Cameron

[00:15:29] Very disappointed by the lack of Todd McFarlane

[00:15:31] Spawn in this movie

[00:15:32] I thought there was going to be more of him

[00:15:34] What, there's no spawning in this movie

[00:15:36] I mean there is

[00:15:37] We're told that they have spawned

[00:15:39] I guess

[00:15:40] But they are already there

[00:15:41] Once the movie begins

[00:15:43] Yeah, I mean that's like

[00:15:44] If you called like

[00:15:45] You know

[00:15:47] An Indiana Jones movie

[00:15:48] Like the birth of Indiana Jones

[00:15:50] And it's like

[00:15:51] Well because you know

[00:15:52] At some point he was born

[00:15:54] It doesn't happen within this movie

[00:15:55] He was alive

[00:15:56] So he definitely was born

[00:15:57] He was alive so he was born at some point

[00:15:58] At some point these piranhas

[00:15:59] Must have spawned

[00:16:00] But by the time this film starts

[00:16:02] They're already

[00:16:03] Like a full force

[00:16:05] So apparently Cameron

[00:16:07] Obviously he's in

[00:16:08] A nobody second AD

[00:16:09] He's very excited to get this opportunity

[00:16:12] And we'll talk about the movie now

[00:16:14] But the thing about the production was

[00:16:15] It was very under financed

[00:16:17] And James Cameron was

[00:16:20] Really trying to make it pop

[00:16:22] The sequences he worked on

[00:16:23] Like he was

[00:16:24] It seems like going a little over budget

[00:16:26] To actually make the movies seem good

[00:16:28] Yeah

[00:16:29] And so after a while

[00:16:30] He was kind of fired

[00:16:31] Yeah

[00:16:32] And the Italian producer guy

[00:16:34] Asavita

[00:16:35] You know

[00:16:36] Directed a lot of himself

[00:16:38] He cut the movie himself

[00:16:40] So that's what I read

[00:16:41] Cameron reportedly broke into the editing studio

[00:16:43] Cut his own version

[00:16:44] But that was not accepted

[00:16:46] What I read is that they

[00:16:50] The Asavita guy started

[00:16:52] Sort of being really heavy on his shoulder

[00:16:54] Right? Demanding rewrites

[00:16:55] And stuff like that

[00:16:56] And then also

[00:16:57] But Cameron remained

[00:16:59] The guy shooting the film on a day to day basis

[00:17:01] But they were telling him what to do

[00:17:02] He was around

[00:17:03] But yeah

[00:17:04] He wasn't able to look at the dailies

[00:17:05] And they were editing it together

[00:17:06] So he never like left the movie

[00:17:08] But he doesn't really consider this

[00:17:10] His debut

[00:17:11] But I think

[00:17:12] Cameron says

[00:17:13] Right, his debut is Terminator

[00:17:14] Right

[00:17:15] He hasn't denied this movie existing

[00:17:16] But he's like that wasn't fully my movie

[00:17:18] He makes fun of it

[00:17:19] He calls

[00:17:20] He's called on 60 Minutes

[00:17:21] He called it as an Isis

[00:17:23] Called him like a sort of a sleazy guy

[00:17:25] Who wanted to like throw

[00:17:26] A bunch of penthouse models into scenes

[00:17:28] You know stuff like that

[00:17:29] And you feel that

[00:17:30] Like there are certain scenes in this

[00:17:31] Specifically kind of like the TNA scenes

[00:17:33] That play a lot broader

[00:17:34] We are like that must

[00:17:35] That doesn't feel like Cameron

[00:17:36] I mean who knows

[00:17:37] Maybe Cameron was like

[00:17:38] Hey, I get it

[00:17:39] It's a B movie

[00:17:40] Like you get what you want out of me

[00:17:41] But there are certain scenes in this movie

[00:17:42] That feel very Cameron-y

[00:17:44] I mean it's interesting to look at

[00:17:46] Early films of directors like this

[00:17:47] Oh it is

[00:17:48] Definitely

[00:17:49] Well we'll get to that

[00:17:50] I just have one more thing

[00:17:51] To tell you about

[00:17:52] I'm just giving you guys a clue

[00:17:53] Oh yeah yeah

[00:17:54] So according to Carol Davis

[00:17:55] Who I think is an actress in the movie

[00:17:57] There was a big scene

[00:17:59] Where Asinitis was doing a shot of the spawning

[00:18:02] I guess it's when they're coming out of the water

[00:18:04] At that party

[00:18:05] Okay

[00:18:06] The fish

[00:18:07] And he

[00:18:08] According to her

[00:18:09] She says

[00:18:10] Alright everybody

[00:18:11] We are all gonna say

[00:18:12] We wanted a fish

[00:18:13] We wanted a fish

[00:18:15] That's what she said happened

[00:18:17] There you go

[00:18:18] That's in that article

[00:18:19] That's another thing was

[00:18:20] No one understood what he was saying

[00:18:21] If you look at the uncrets of the film

[00:18:22] The entire crew is Italian

[00:18:24] Yeah

[00:18:25] And apparently most of them didn't speak English

[00:18:26] And Cameron had a very hard time communicating with them

[00:18:28] It was shot in Jamaica

[00:18:29] It sounds like

[00:18:30] Shot in like the Cayman Islands in Jamaica and Italy

[00:18:32] It was shot in all three with an all Italian crew

[00:18:35] American actors

[00:18:36] And a Canadian director

[00:18:37] It sounds like a tough

[00:18:39] A tough early process

[00:18:41] You know we talked about

[00:18:42] Shyamalan's first real film

[00:18:44] Wide awake

[00:18:45] Where he's kind of meddled with

[00:18:46] Right

[00:18:47] Like by Mira Max

[00:18:48] And by Harvey Weinstein

[00:18:49] They take the cut away from him

[00:18:50] They don't release it

[00:18:51] You know

[00:18:52] He learns an early like valuable lesson

[00:18:54] Right

[00:18:55] Like

[00:18:56] The Wachowskis

[00:18:57] And then Brown's so good

[00:18:58] Brown's perfect

[00:18:59] But I mean it can happen with some of these

[00:19:00] Which is incredible because it was Dina de Laurentiis

[00:19:02] Like that seems like a situation where they would be meddled with

[00:19:04] But somehow that movie was

[00:19:05] Well they really tried to avoid being meddled with I guess

[00:19:08] They did a good job of it

[00:19:09] But anyway

[00:19:10] So this just feels like that same story

[00:19:12] Where Cameron is just learning like

[00:19:14] What can go wrong

[00:19:15] Value of having creative

[00:19:16] Total creative control

[00:19:18] And of writing something yourself

[00:19:20] I mean he is an uncredited writer on this

[00:19:22] I don't know how much work he did on this script

[00:19:24] Yeah

[00:19:25] I do think that's the biggest

[00:19:28] Take away from this movie

[00:19:30] Is this movie makes

[00:19:31] Is more interesting to watch as an origin story

[00:19:34] Of how Cameron became the director he became

[00:19:36] Rather than like

[00:19:37] These are the seeds of what he was good at

[00:19:39] That hadn't blossomed

[00:19:40] Because he had little bits of it

[00:19:41] But it like doesn't feel

[00:19:43] It doesn't have the same sort of overarching

[00:19:45] Cameron feel that every other movie does

[00:19:47] But I remember reading this interview with

[00:19:49] Wes Anderson where he talked about

[00:19:50] Working on Bottle Rocket

[00:19:51] Sure

[00:19:52] And he felt like there were arguments

[00:19:53] He lost

[00:19:54] He was just too tired

[00:19:55] And they didn't get things done

[00:19:56] Right?

[00:19:57] Wes Anderson obviously the director

[00:19:58] Who is known for being like

[00:19:59] In complete control of his craft

[00:20:00] Micro-managing every detail

[00:20:02] From the set to the lines

[00:20:03] To the performances and camera movements

[00:20:05] And everything

[00:20:06] And he felt like that was a movie

[00:20:07] Where he settled sometimes

[00:20:08] Sure

[00:20:09] And he's proud of the movie

[00:20:10] But he watches it

[00:20:11] And he sees the points where he settled

[00:20:13] Sounds like Wes Anderson

[00:20:14] Well I mean directors tend to be

[00:20:15] Control-free

[00:20:16] Yes and Wes Anderson certainly

[00:20:17] Top of the line

[00:20:18] If you were going to like

[00:20:19] Armchair diagnosis

[00:20:20] He's the first guy you would throw

[00:20:21] That onto

[00:20:22] But he said that he decided from

[00:20:24] That point on starting with Rushmore

[00:20:26] That he was like

[00:20:27] I don't care if I lose sleep

[00:20:28] I don't care what I have to do

[00:20:29] Like I'm going to make everything

[00:20:30] Exactly the way I want to make it

[00:20:31] And this kind of feels to me

[00:20:33] Like an even greater example of that

[00:20:35] Where like here's a movie where

[00:20:37] They literally were wrestling control away

[00:20:39] From my day-to-day basis

[00:20:40] And he was like

[00:20:41] I'm never going to lose an argument

[00:20:42] Ever again

[00:20:43] We're talking about a director

[00:20:44] Who is quite famous for being

[00:20:45] A control-free

[00:20:46] Right exactly

[00:20:47] But that's where this film comes into play

[00:20:48] Because this movie is like

[00:20:50] All over the map

[00:20:51] Right yeah

[00:20:52] But that's what I find interesting

[00:20:54] About watching this

[00:20:55] Is like this is clearly such a

[00:20:56] Compromised movie

[00:20:57] With some interesting glimpses of stuff

[00:20:58] And then from here on out

[00:20:59] He never makes a movie

[00:21:00] That isn't exactly what he wants to make

[00:21:02] Absolutely

[00:21:03] And he goes to being like

[00:21:04] The first guy to make a hundred million dollar movie

[00:21:06] The first guy to make a two hundred million

[00:21:08] Dollar movie

[00:21:09] And then we still don't know

[00:21:10] Exactly how much Avatar cost

[00:21:11] Because I don't think anyone ever

[00:21:12] Wants to disclose that information

[00:21:14] Yeah

[00:21:15] And the combined cost

[00:21:16] Of the next four Avatar movies

[00:21:17] Is going to be astronomical

[00:21:18] Right

[00:21:19] But the idea is like

[00:21:20] Not only is he not going to like

[00:21:21] Lose a battle with like

[00:21:23] The studio

[00:21:24] With his crew

[00:21:25] Like he's famously kind of

[00:21:26] Argumented with crews

[00:21:27] Or actors who try to oppose him

[00:21:28] In this and that

[00:21:29] But also like

[00:21:30] If you say this can't be done

[00:21:32] He's going to get people to give him

[00:21:34] Amounts of money that have never been

[00:21:35] Given to a movie before

[00:21:36] And he's done it multiple times

[00:21:38] No one will ever make

[00:21:39] A hundred million dollar movie

[00:21:40] And he's like

[00:21:41] Oh yeah then how do you expect me

[00:21:42] To make a metal man

[00:21:43] Right

[00:21:44] And they're like fine

[00:21:45] Here's a hundred million dollar

[00:21:46] Like he just wins

[00:21:47] The dude just fucking wins

[00:21:49] He's a winner

[00:21:50] But Prana 2 the spawning is a bit of a loss

[00:21:52] It's his big L

[00:21:53] Yeah

[00:21:54] The big L on his

[00:21:55] Everyone has one

[00:21:56] And this is his

[00:21:57] And last time to be trivia fact

[00:21:59] As of 2015

[00:22:01] This is the only film James Cameron

[00:22:03] Has directed that does not have a title

[00:22:05] Starting with the letter T or A

[00:22:07] Okay

[00:22:09] Terminator, Alien, Avatar, True Lies

[00:22:11] I get it

[00:22:12] I get it

[00:22:13] It's kind of interesting

[00:22:14] The Abyss is both kind of

[00:22:15] T.A.

[00:22:16] Yeah

[00:22:17] Terminator's T.T.

[00:22:18] The first one

[00:22:19] Yeah

[00:22:20] Yeah, Terminator 2

[00:22:21] Yeah

[00:22:22] I get it

[00:22:23] Yeah

[00:22:24] Oh we should respond to that

[00:22:25] So Pottonator Judgment Cast

[00:22:26] You might go

[00:22:27] Hey where's the 2?

[00:22:28] Where's the 2 in that title

[00:22:30] Where's the 2?

[00:22:31] We want people to listen to the show

[00:22:33] We don't want people to think

[00:22:35] That there's a first Pottonator

[00:22:37] That they need to listen to

[00:22:38] In order to follow

[00:22:39] So we're just

[00:22:40] We're going Pottonator

[00:22:41] Colen

[00:22:42] Judgment Cast

[00:22:43] I know it's not correct

[00:22:45] And we're usually such sticklers

[00:22:47] For accuracy

[00:22:48] But please, please forgive us

[00:22:49] I'm sorry guys

[00:22:50] But yeah

[00:22:51] I mean

[00:22:52] Or else we would have been called

[00:22:53] Poppywood

[00:22:54] It doesn't matter

[00:22:55] Forget the title

[00:22:56] You know what?

[00:22:57] Forget the title

[00:22:58] Pottonator 2

[00:22:59] That's what we're called

[00:23:00] Pottonator Judgment Cast

[00:23:01] Okay so let's talk about

[00:23:02] Piranha 2 the Spawning

[00:23:03] Piranha 2 the Spawning

[00:23:04] Piranha 2 the Spawning

[00:23:05] Little setup

[00:23:06] In Piranha 1

[00:23:07] There was a bunch of Piranhas

[00:23:08] Okay

[00:23:09] They were

[00:23:10] I guess they were created in a secret lab

[00:23:11] Yeah

[00:23:12] Then they escaped the lab

[00:23:13] And they ate a bunch of people

[00:23:14] Okay so that is a thing

[00:23:15] In Piranha 1

[00:23:16] Yes

[00:23:17] That they were a project on a ride

[00:23:18] That's right

[00:23:19] I believe that

[00:23:20] Usually

[00:23:21] North American

[00:23:22] Like beach towns

[00:23:23] Don't have

[00:23:24] Piranhas

[00:23:25] They are rain forest

[00:23:26] Creatures I think

[00:23:27] Yup

[00:23:28] And I think

[00:23:29] I mean look

[00:23:30] I haven't seen it

[00:23:31] You have

[00:23:32] But like Dante and sales are

[00:23:33] Smart guys

[00:23:34] They know what they're doing

[00:23:35] They were playing into the

[00:23:36] Absurdity of the inherent

[00:23:37] Concept

[00:23:38] And just trying to

[00:23:39] Like the joke of

[00:23:40] Right how small

[00:23:41] Can the fish be

[00:23:42] While it's still scary

[00:23:43] It's a funny

[00:23:44] It becomes comical in this

[00:23:45] Straight

[00:23:46] This movie is not a comedy at all

[00:23:47] This movie feels like

[00:23:48] A bad remake of Jaws

[00:23:50] You know

[00:23:51] Where as the

[00:23:52] You know the original movie

[00:23:53] Is trying to make fun of that idea

[00:23:54] This movie begins

[00:23:55] With two people scuba diving

[00:23:57] Into like an abandoned

[00:23:59] Rack

[00:24:00] To have sex in it

[00:24:01] Under water

[00:24:02] Yeah and here's

[00:24:03] Here's a thing

[00:24:04] I don't know if I can

[00:24:05] Ben's doing hand gestures again

[00:24:06] Ben's doing more hand gestures

[00:24:07] I don't know

[00:24:09] If I can give the movie

[00:24:10] Credit for this

[00:24:11] Like sometimes the things

[00:24:12] That are kind of cool about

[00:24:13] Movies

[00:24:14] Are watching a movie like this

[00:24:15] That is not very good

[00:24:16] And you're looking for little

[00:24:17] Aspects that jump out to you

[00:24:18] Are accidental

[00:24:19] Right

[00:24:20] And it might be like

[00:24:21] Look just the limitations

[00:24:22] Of film stock at the time

[00:24:23] The limitations of the budget

[00:24:24] Where they weren't able to

[00:24:25] Light properly

[00:24:26] I'm also watching like

[00:24:27] Fucking you know

[00:24:28] An SD streaming copy

[00:24:29] On my Amazon Fire tablet

[00:24:31] Good job buddy

[00:24:32] So it might just be

[00:24:33] Like you know

[00:24:34] Whatever

[00:24:35] But one thing I like

[00:24:36] About this movie

[00:24:37] Whether it's intentional or not

[00:24:38] Is

[00:24:39] This movie gets really dark

[00:24:41] Like the night scenes

[00:24:42] In this movie are like

[00:24:43] Hitch black

[00:24:44] And you can barely see anything

[00:24:45] Yeah

[00:24:47] There's not a shot in this movie

[00:24:49] That's

[00:24:50] Maybe there's a few

[00:24:51] There's a few shots in this

[00:24:52] Movie that are good

[00:24:53] Yeah

[00:24:54] But

[00:24:55] I don't think it's intentional

[00:24:56] I think they wanted more things

[00:24:57] To be visible but accidentally

[00:24:58] I think it's kind of interesting

[00:24:59] Cause it's one movie where

[00:25:00] Like when night hits the movie

[00:25:01] It's just like

[00:25:02] Well it's night

[00:25:03] You can't see anything

[00:25:04] It's tough to see

[00:25:05] It's night

[00:25:06] And there's

[00:25:07] I mean

[00:25:08] Probably the movie's biggest

[00:25:09] Set piece is at night

[00:25:10] Correct

[00:25:11] The big beach party sequence

[00:25:12] Yeah

[00:25:13] The underwater stuff looks pretty good

[00:25:15] Which is

[00:25:16] I mean these are the seas

[00:25:17] So this is the thing

[00:25:18] I queue up this movie

[00:25:19] And I'm like

[00:25:20] This is gonna be a chore

[00:25:21] Like what

[00:25:22] What are we really gonna get out of

[00:25:23] James Cameron from this

[00:25:24] And then like the first

[00:25:25] Five minutes of the movie

[00:25:26] Are underwater

[00:25:27] Which is his

[00:25:28] Number one obsession

[00:25:30] He loves the ocean

[00:25:31] I mean it's

[00:25:32] Like right

[00:25:33] He's obsessed

[00:25:34] And it is funny to say

[00:25:35] Oh yeah right there

[00:25:36] From the start

[00:25:37] There he is

[00:25:38] Doing some

[00:25:39] Decent underwater photography

[00:25:40] Of

[00:25:41] And a naked dude

[00:25:42] Trying to bone underwater

[00:25:43] And get eaten by a piranha

[00:25:45] But kinda tellingly

[00:25:46] He seems far more interested

[00:25:47] In what's going on underwater

[00:25:48] Like around them

[00:25:49] Than the sex

[00:25:50] Absolutely

[00:25:51] And the

[00:25:52] The movie can't have been

[00:25:53] Expensive

[00:25:54] No

[00:25:55] But

[00:25:56] I don't know

[00:25:57] He does a good job

[00:25:58] Doing a lot of set pieces

[00:25:59] Underwater

[00:26:00] It must have been hard

[00:26:01] I think it's

[00:26:02] The loving gaze

[00:26:03] Do you know what I'm saying

[00:26:04] Like the ocean you mean

[00:26:05] Yes

[00:26:06] Oh yeah

[00:26:07] I mean

[00:26:08] His male gaze is just

[00:26:09] Towards aquatic life

[00:26:10] And I think

[00:26:11] You can tell when things

[00:26:12] Are lovingly photographed

[00:26:14] Even if you don't have

[00:26:15] The technical abilities

[00:26:16] You know the time

[00:26:17] And the resources

[00:26:18] To make a beautiful painterly

[00:26:20] Shot

[00:26:21] If someone really loves

[00:26:22] Their subject

[00:26:23] That kinda shows

[00:26:24] Which is where the male gaze

[00:26:25] Comes in this question

[00:26:26] Of like oh when directors

[00:26:27] Are oogling the actresses

[00:26:28] From behind the camera

[00:26:29] And this is just

[00:26:30] Like this dude

[00:26:31] F***ing wants to

[00:26:32] Jerk off in the ocean

[00:26:33] So this is a movie

[00:26:34] With a lot of t and a

[00:26:35] That's what he used to

[00:26:36] Say

[00:26:37] Which he seems pretty

[00:26:38] And different to

[00:26:39] But it's not trying very

[00:26:40] Hard to seem at all

[00:26:41] Like sexy or titillating

[00:26:43] Like there are women in it

[00:26:45] And sometimes they're naked

[00:26:47] And often times they're

[00:26:48] In like loose fitting

[00:26:50] Dresses or bikinis

[00:26:51] There's a lot of jiggling

[00:26:52] There's also a lot of no bra

[00:26:54] Like loose shirt

[00:26:55] And there's more to it

[00:26:56] What there isn't a lot of

[00:26:57] Is like lingering

[00:26:58] Or kind of like

[00:26:59] Very obvious

[00:27:00] Sort of soft core

[00:27:01] Kind of stuff

[00:27:02] And I don't think

[00:27:03] That's even

[00:27:04] Like because James Cameron

[00:27:05] Is some radical feminist

[00:27:07] Although certainly

[00:27:08] Makes movies with like

[00:27:09] Interesting enough

[00:27:10] Well and I think actually

[00:27:11] The lead female character

[00:27:12] In this movie is kind of

[00:27:13] Interesting in how she's

[00:27:14] Definitely

[00:27:15] She's a proto

[00:27:16] Exactly

[00:27:17] Proto Cameron heroin

[00:27:18] Yes

[00:27:19] I think it's disinterest

[00:27:20] I don't think it's like

[00:27:21] It's just kind of like

[00:27:22] I don't think it's that he's

[00:27:23] That woke

[00:27:24] I think that's not what

[00:27:25] He wants to f***ing make

[00:27:26] You know you don't want

[00:27:27] To give him like a trophy

[00:27:28] For like avoiding the cliches

[00:27:29] Because it's still in there

[00:27:30] But I think he just like

[00:27:31] That's not why he's

[00:27:32] Making a f***ing movie

[00:27:33] You know

[00:27:34] And there is like

[00:27:35] You know there is

[00:27:36] Gratuitous nudity

[00:27:37] In this movie

[00:27:38] But there are actually a lot

[00:27:39] Of moments where

[00:27:40] It feels like there should be

[00:27:41] Nudity and he's not doing it

[00:27:42] That's what I was going to say

[00:27:43] There's nudity in the first

[00:27:44] 20 minutes

[00:27:45] There's like a good

[00:27:46] And then it kind of stops

[00:27:47] Because I don't know

[00:27:48] I mean I don't know

[00:27:49] But it does almost feel

[00:27:50] Like they're like

[00:27:51] What I already did that

[00:27:52] Like you know

[00:27:53] You got it right

[00:27:54] Right but there

[00:27:55] It feels like

[00:27:56] He's checking that off the

[00:27:57] Like that was a contractual

[00:27:58] Obligation

[00:27:59] Like yeah

[00:28:00] Should I

[00:28:01] You want some

[00:28:02] May have wings

[00:28:03] It feels like one of

[00:28:04] The conditions was

[00:28:05] Okay condition one

[00:28:06] Two

[00:28:07] At least eight

[00:28:08] Total tits in the movie

[00:28:09] Right

[00:28:10] And he was like

[00:28:11] I'll get out of the way

[00:28:12] In the first 15 minutes

[00:28:13] I'll get it done

[00:28:14] He's trying to load up

[00:28:15] His college course load

[00:28:16] So he can get through

[00:28:17] All the requirements

[00:28:18] And like

[00:28:19] Exactly

[00:28:20] Because there's also

[00:28:21] Here's another thing

[00:28:22] There's not a lot of

[00:28:23] In this movie

[00:28:24] Piratas

[00:28:25] No

[00:28:26] There's not a ton

[00:28:27] Of pirata scenes

[00:28:28] In this movie

[00:28:29] I can't tell

[00:28:30] If it's because

[00:28:31] The special effects

[00:28:32] Budget was

[00:28:33] Maybe a little

[00:28:34] Spare

[00:28:35] Right

[00:28:36] And they had this

[00:28:37] Like piranha with wings

[00:28:38] Thing that they wanted to do

[00:28:39] And maybe

[00:28:40] Like there was only so much

[00:28:41] They could do it

[00:28:42] I don't know

[00:28:43] I mean according to this

[00:28:44] EW article

[00:28:45] It was on a stick

[00:28:46] Yeah it looks like it

[00:28:47] And they would kind of attach

[00:28:48] It to you

[00:28:49] And then wiggle it around

[00:28:50] And then you'd have

[00:28:51] A little prosthetic

[00:28:52] You know

[00:28:53] Blood coming out of your

[00:28:54] Neck or whatever

[00:28:55] That was the extent of it

[00:28:56] Like

[00:28:57] If you pitched me

[00:28:58] Piratas with wings

[00:28:59] I'm imagining

[00:29:00] Swarms of piratas

[00:29:01] In the air

[00:29:02] Right

[00:29:03] You know like

[00:29:04] Skeletonizing me

[00:29:05] Here's it

[00:29:06] Skeletonizing is a good word

[00:29:07] Here's what I find interesting

[00:29:09] Okay

[00:29:10] Of course this movie

[00:29:12] Had like budgetary limitations

[00:29:14] They can't get a full swarm going

[00:29:15] You assume that they were

[00:29:16] Sort of handcuffed

[00:29:17] And how much product

[00:29:18] They could shoot

[00:29:19] The first one cost a million bucks

[00:29:20] I'm guessing this one cost less

[00:29:21] I'm guessing

[00:29:22] I'm guessing half a million

[00:29:23] Yeah because the first one

[00:29:24] Looks better than this one

[00:29:25] By a weight

[00:29:26] I mean Joe Dante's a good director

[00:29:28] But James Cameron's a good director

[00:29:29] And Corman

[00:29:30] Yes

[00:29:31] And Corman kind of

[00:29:32] Gives a shit

[00:29:33] And I think it's quality

[00:29:34] Quantity over quality

[00:29:35] Yeah

[00:29:36] He does like

[00:29:37] Want to make movies that people like

[00:29:38] Whereas these guys

[00:29:39] I think were a little more craven

[00:29:40] What's interesting to me is

[00:29:42] Like you look at Jaws

[00:29:43] Were famously the shark didn't work

[00:29:44] And it was too expensive

[00:29:45] And like he had to re-write on the fly

[00:29:47] And make the shark more of a looming threat

[00:29:49] Than something you saw

[00:29:50] Or it was glimpses and this and that

[00:29:52] This movie it feels like

[00:29:53] At a lot of points

[00:29:54] Like

[00:29:55] They're sort of talking about the piratas

[00:29:57] In like

[00:29:58] A way where they're trying to crack the conspiracy

[00:30:00] But there's not constantly

[00:30:02] A looming threat of like

[00:30:03] The piratas could attack at any moment

[00:30:04] Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:30:05] I do

[00:30:06] Like Jaws from the moment the shark hits

[00:30:07] You're like

[00:30:08] The shark could come up at any fucking time

[00:30:09] Like there's an uneasiness to the whole movie

[00:30:11] And a lot of those lesser Jaws ripoffs

[00:30:13] Have that

[00:30:14] Right

[00:30:15] And this it feels like

[00:30:16] Once every 15 minutes

[00:30:17] You're like

[00:30:18] Alright piratas

[00:30:19] Yeah this is a

[00:30:20] So I was

[00:30:21] Alright

[00:30:22] Because there's not necessarily less

[00:30:23] Piranha footage in this than Jaws

[00:30:24] It just feels like the piranha stuff

[00:30:25] Is less of a focus

[00:30:26] Than the shark isn't Jaws

[00:30:28] I mean maybe he just started

[00:30:30] And like again

[00:30:32] He's not

[00:30:33] Right they're not letting him

[00:30:34] Yeah

[00:30:35] Oh fuck like how scary is a piranha going to be

[00:30:37] Piratas aren't that scary

[00:30:38] And James Cameron is famously kind of a literal person

[00:30:40] And doesn't have much of a sense of humor

[00:30:42] You know his like

[00:30:43] His comedy is often the most derided element of his films

[00:30:45] This movie lacks a sense of humor

[00:30:46] Right but he's not a guy who knows how to do tongue in cheek

[00:30:48] He's very earnest

[00:30:50] You know

[00:30:51] Yep

[00:30:52] He's very self serious in his concepts

[00:30:53] Regardless of how ridiculous they are

[00:30:55] And so you could see that like

[00:30:56] I don't think he even

[00:30:58] Had the ability to make this a parody

[00:31:00] Of the level of Dante's Piranha

[00:31:02] Would that be what the producers wanted him to do

[00:31:04] Dante's Piranha was the sequel to Dante's Peak

[00:31:06] Yes exactly

[00:31:08] But yeah

[00:31:10] The piranha stuff feels indifferent like

[00:31:12] I mean let's think of like

[00:31:14] What are some piranha things that happen

[00:31:15] There's a couple who have sex

[00:31:16] And then I guess a piranha eats them

[00:31:18] I guess

[00:31:19] I mean and then you find the corpse

[00:31:21] They find the corpse

[00:31:22] Which is like 40 minutes later

[00:31:24] Yeah

[00:31:25] What happens in this movie

[00:31:27] How did it pad to an hour and a half

[00:31:29] It's like 40 minutes later

[00:31:31] Okay so let's go through the plot of this movie

[00:31:33] Okay

[00:31:34] You wanna try

[00:31:35] Sure

[00:31:36] So like I said

[00:31:37] There were some piranhas last time

[00:31:39] Okay

[00:31:40] Yeah

[00:31:41] Some people try to have sex in the sea

[00:31:43] I don't mean on the surface of the water

[00:31:45] Nope

[00:31:46] I don't mean in like a boat or on a dinghy

[00:31:48] Like they want to go underwater

[00:31:50] And have sex down in the water

[00:31:52] They're doing like Cameron Deep dive fucking

[00:31:55] And they're also taking off their

[00:31:57] Oxygen source

[00:31:58] Yeah

[00:31:59] To make out

[00:32:00] What's their plan

[00:32:01] I don't know

[00:32:02] And they're in like a wreck

[00:32:04] Like a rusty shipwreck

[00:32:06] Which is like talk about fucking like

[00:32:08] Bloodborne disease

[00:32:09] You know what I'm saying

[00:32:10] Like that's like

[00:32:11] You wanna get tetanus doing this

[00:32:12] Come on

[00:32:13] Yeah

[00:32:14] You're naked

[00:32:15] Next to some rusty scrap metal

[00:32:16] Boy oh boy

[00:32:17] So

[00:32:18] They get eaten by a piranha

[00:32:20] They do indeed

[00:32:21] Cut to

[00:32:22] A bunch of tourists are taking diving courses

[00:32:25] In a hotel

[00:32:27] On a beach

[00:32:28] Do we know where this is

[00:32:29] Like the Caribbean Islands

[00:32:31] The Caribbean Islands

[00:32:32] Yeah

[00:32:33] And on one of their dives

[00:32:36] The student gets chomped up

[00:32:39] Yeah

[00:32:40] And then the lead lady

[00:32:42] Who is a diving instructor

[00:32:44] Right

[00:32:45] Who's played by Trisha O'Neill

[00:32:46] And what I think is a pretty solid performance

[00:32:48] She's pretty good

[00:32:49] Ann Kimbrough

[00:32:50] Is her name

[00:32:51] She's Ann

[00:32:52] I do love in the credits

[00:32:53] When the credits roll

[00:32:54] And it's like

[00:32:55] Ann, Jack, Jim

[00:32:56] It's like

[00:32:57] It's the most bland names they can think of

[00:32:59] Which is incredible because

[00:33:00] Lance Henrykson's character is almost exclusively

[00:33:02] Referred to as Kimbrough

[00:33:04] Throughout the entire movie

[00:33:05] They all call him by his last name

[00:33:06] And in the end credits it goes

[00:33:07] Lance Henrykson

[00:33:08] Dave

[00:33:09] You know Dave friendly Dave

[00:33:11] I don't think anyone ever called him Dave

[00:33:12] The whole movie they call him

[00:33:13] We'll get to him

[00:33:14] Because he's obviously the star of the movie

[00:33:16] Right

[00:33:17] Well, I mean he's the guy who pops

[00:33:18] Yeah, he pops like a mother fucker

[00:33:20] So Trisha O'Neill

[00:33:21] The only thing I know her from

[00:33:23] Is she played the captain

[00:33:24] Of the Enterprise C

[00:33:25] In one episode of Star Trek

[00:33:27] The next generation

[00:33:28] Interesting

[00:33:29] A very good episode

[00:33:30] Called Yesterday's Enterprise

[00:33:31] Okay

[00:33:32] And so I guess that's a bit of

[00:33:33] Pop culture marginality

[00:33:34] But it's literally a one episode appearance

[00:33:36] Yeah, and she hasn't done that much

[00:33:37] I mean it's just still

[00:33:38] She's in Titanic

[00:33:39] Okay

[00:33:40] I would assume in a very small

[00:33:41] That's nice

[00:33:42] Yeah, he's

[00:33:43] I think he's pretty good about that

[00:33:44] Yeah

[00:33:45] He remembers you

[00:33:46] Well Lance obviously

[00:33:47] You know she was in the A team

[00:33:48] She was an air wolf

[00:33:49] She was an old Remington steal

[00:33:50] She was a yeah

[00:33:51] Working actress in the 80s

[00:33:52] Anyway

[00:33:53] So she is a diving instructor

[00:33:54] Yeah

[00:33:55] But you know she thinks something's up

[00:33:57] Because one of her students

[00:33:58] Got torn into a million pieces

[00:34:00] By something

[00:34:01] And has holes all over his body

[00:34:03] Interesting theory

[00:34:04] Something's going on

[00:34:06] And I guess she's like wanted

[00:34:08] At one point she's like

[00:34:09] Considered a under suspicion for murder

[00:34:12] Yeah, well we'll get to that

[00:34:13] So she

[00:34:15] We see her

[00:34:16] We very early on

[00:34:17] See her with her son

[00:34:19] In their hotel room

[00:34:20] Yeah, so Ben

[00:34:21] Would be talking about this

[00:34:23] And I agree with him

[00:34:24] Yeah

[00:34:25] Creepy

[00:34:26] This scene's creepy

[00:34:27] It's not the only one

[00:34:28] Their relationship

[00:34:29] Throughout

[00:34:30] But it actually

[00:34:31] Are these two like fucking

[00:34:32] Are they fucking

[00:34:33] It feels like it

[00:34:34] But I realize like

[00:34:35] I didn't know any of the background

[00:34:37] Of this being like Italian

[00:34:39] Like involved

[00:34:40] And now it makes perfect sense

[00:34:41] Wow

[00:34:42] The mother son

[00:34:43] They're physical people

[00:34:44] They're very

[00:34:45] Hey come on

[00:34:46] You love your mother

[00:34:47] Is that a lyric?

[00:34:48] I mean yeah

[00:34:49] Come on I love you

[00:34:50] My mother

[00:34:51] Wow we're really pissing

[00:34:52] Well that's

[00:34:53] No but it is that he's Italian culture

[00:34:54] Where y'all know the final boss level

[00:34:56] Of Super Mario Brothers

[00:34:57] Is the Mario Brothers

[00:34:58] Tag teaming their mom

[00:35:00] Oh dear

[00:35:02] That's what that

[00:35:03] That's the final boss

[00:35:04] Most people don't get to that level

[00:35:05] Bowser's not actually

[00:35:06] He's there

[00:35:07] He's just watching

[00:35:08] He's just watching

[00:35:09] I'm reading

[00:35:10] I'm sorry

[00:35:11] I'm reading the Wikipedia

[00:35:12] Entry for this

[00:35:13] For the first time

[00:35:14] Like the Wikipedia

[00:35:15] Entry for Piranha 2

[00:35:16] This is outside

[00:35:17] Or art

[00:35:18] Whoever wrote the plot description

[00:35:19] Okay please

[00:35:20] Like for example

[00:35:21] Let's run through the plot

[00:35:22] Off of their description

[00:35:23] It's long

[00:35:24] I'm not going to read it all

[00:35:25] But I'll read you some sentences

[00:35:26] Steve, a police officer

[00:35:27] Refuses to listen to Anne

[00:35:29] About her wanting to have a look

[00:35:30] At the body

[00:35:31] Because she needs to know

[00:35:32] What's happened

[00:35:33] Period

[00:35:34] The death does not seem to match

[00:35:35] The attack pattern of any marine

[00:35:36] Rife in this area

[00:35:37] Which she knows better than anyone

[00:35:38] Period

[00:35:39] For her to not know

[00:35:40] What killed a diver

[00:35:41] Is a dangerous sign

[00:35:42] Period

[00:35:43] This is the Wikipedia

[00:35:44] Lot

[00:35:45] Lot of

[00:35:46] Barrier inferences

[00:35:47] Being made here

[00:35:48] Okay so this is what

[00:35:49] I like this movie does

[00:35:50] Steve intercepts Gabby

[00:35:52] A dynamic fisherman

[00:35:53] Oh a dynamite fisherman

[00:35:54] Right he fishes with dynamite

[00:35:56] That's right

[00:35:57] There's a character who

[00:35:58] Fishes with dynamite

[00:35:59] He's a dynamic dynamite fisherman

[00:36:00] And threatens to confiscate their boat

[00:36:02] But as Gabby explains

[00:36:03] Comma Steve

[00:36:04] Anne

[00:36:05] And he

[00:36:06] Comma

[00:36:07] Are old friends

[00:36:08] Yeah

[00:36:09] Uh here's

[00:36:10] This is all happening

[00:36:11] Here's what I like about this movie

[00:36:12] He's building out an ensemble

[00:36:13] Yeah

[00:36:14] Uh they introduced Anne

[00:36:15] Early on

[00:36:16] Right she's creepy with her son

[00:36:18] Creepy with her son

[00:36:19] Diving instructor

[00:36:20] You know

[00:36:21] The more usual

[00:36:22] Okay no man in the picture

[00:36:23] Right

[00:36:24] No man

[00:36:25] Then we're introduced to uh

[00:36:26] Kimbra

[00:36:27] And he's dealing with Gabby

[00:36:28] This sort of senior talk

[00:36:29] But that's the first time

[00:36:30] I think we see him

[00:36:31] Yeah

[00:36:32] And we get a sense of him

[00:36:33] Played by Lance Henrickson

[00:36:34] Yes

[00:36:35] Uh who's just so fucking good

[00:36:36] Lance Henrickson's the best

[00:36:38] Yeah he rules

[00:36:39] And he is in

[00:36:40] Three Cameron movies

[00:36:42] And it's sad that he's not in more

[00:36:43] Yeah

[00:36:44] Actually he's just a

[00:36:45] Genre legend right

[00:36:46] Yeah

[00:36:47] My roommate mentioned that

[00:36:48] He has been killed by an alien

[00:36:51] A predator

[00:36:52] And a terminator

[00:36:53] That's pretty fucking

[00:36:54] Yes

[00:36:55] That's cool man

[00:36:56] I think he's quite an honor

[00:36:58] The only person to be killed by an alien

[00:37:00] A predator and a terminator

[00:37:01] Yeah

[00:37:02] I think that's right

[00:37:03] Yeah cause I think

[00:37:04] Well Paxton has

[00:37:06] He's not in a predator

[00:37:07] Is he?

[00:37:08] He's in predator two

[00:37:09] Oh I haven't seen predator two

[00:37:10] I've never been able to watch

[00:37:11] Predator 2 all the way through

[00:37:12] I own it on VHS

[00:37:13] And every time I try to put it

[00:37:14] On I fall asleep

[00:37:15] Um

[00:37:16] Every time I try to put it on

[00:37:18] I fall I've only ever made a 20 minute

[00:37:20] Paxton's definitely in it

[00:37:21] Yeah

[00:37:22] If he gets killed by an alien

[00:37:24] Spoiler world gets to that in a future episode

[00:37:26] Ended by a terminator and terminator

[00:37:27] Right

[00:37:28] But well I don't know

[00:37:29] Anyway he's up there

[00:37:30] Interesting

[00:37:31] And Lance Henrickson

[00:37:32] Great actor

[00:37:33] Yeah

[00:37:34] Just kind of steely

[00:37:35] Slightly demented

[00:37:36] Like

[00:37:37] Yeah

[00:37:38] I don't know there's something so special

[00:37:39] He was on that TV show

[00:37:40] Millennium for a few years

[00:37:41] That is one of the weirdest shows

[00:37:43] That ever aired on broadcast TV

[00:37:44] Uh huh

[00:37:45] That was an X file spin off?

[00:37:46] It was an X

[00:37:47] It was by the creator of the X files

[00:37:48] It wasn't really a spin off

[00:37:49] Did they sort of backdoor pilot it

[00:37:50] They introduced him

[00:37:51] Or they overlapped it

[00:37:52] They overlapped later

[00:37:53] Like Millennium got cancelled

[00:37:55] And then they just had

[00:37:56] A real Millennium finale

[00:37:58] Happen in the X files

[00:38:00] That's fascinating

[00:38:01] Chris Carter is

[00:38:02] Who has created both shows

[00:38:03] He's a weird dude

[00:38:04] Yeah

[00:38:05] Anyway so

[00:38:07] But love Lance Henrickson

[00:38:08] Me too

[00:38:09] And I think they just met on this movie

[00:38:11] There's a story about his

[00:38:14] Costume cost like no money

[00:38:16] He hated it

[00:38:17] Yeah

[00:38:18] It was basically like a store

[00:38:19] Cop costume

[00:38:20] Yeah

[00:38:21] And he was sitting at lunch

[00:38:22] With Cameron and complaining about it

[00:38:24] Like this is the worst costume

[00:38:25] I've ever worn in my life

[00:38:26] And a waiter walked by

[00:38:27] And he had like epaulettes

[00:38:28] He had like a little bit

[00:38:29] And he was like

[00:38:30] Let me buy that off you for $75

[00:38:31] Like and like just to

[00:38:32] Put a little dressing on this costume

[00:38:34] So there you go

[00:38:35] That's cool

[00:38:36] Lance Henrickson story

[00:38:37] Um

[00:38:38] But he's in Terminator

[00:38:39] Yeah

[00:38:40] He's an alien

[00:38:41] Cameron's first choice

[00:38:42] Yes

[00:38:43] Yes

[00:38:44] That's fascinating

[00:38:45] But you know he is in it

[00:38:46] And then he's an alien

[00:38:47] He was an early Cameron guy

[00:38:49] Yeah God he's beautiful in aliens

[00:38:51] That's such a good performance

[00:38:52] It's incredible

[00:38:53] We'll shower him with love

[00:38:55] I think he's wonderful

[00:38:56] In the Terminator too

[00:38:58] Yeah

[00:38:59] So here's an embarrassing confession

[00:39:00] He's a good guy to

[00:39:01] What

[00:39:02] I have only seen the original Terminator

[00:39:04] Once

[00:39:05] And it was like

[00:39:06] Like many years ago

[00:39:07] 15, 16 years ago

[00:39:08] Wow

[00:39:09] Why haven't you seen it a bunch of times

[00:39:10] I don't know because I rewatched Terminator 2 all the time

[00:39:12] Sure

[00:39:13] Well, Terminator 2 is very rewatchable

[00:39:15] Yeah

[00:39:16] Whereas Terminator 1 is like

[00:39:17] Kind of scary and dark and moody and weird

[00:39:18] That's the thing

[00:39:19] I think I saw both of them when I was like 11 or 12

[00:39:21] And Terminator 2 was much more my wavelength

[00:39:22] Than Terminator 1

[00:39:23] So I kept on going like

[00:39:24] Oh I like the Terminator

[00:39:25] But I'm just never going to rewatch it

[00:39:26] I rewatch certain scenes

[00:39:27] I own it

[00:39:28] I just like

[00:39:29] Have not rewatched it

[00:39:30] Since then

[00:39:31] I had the same experience with Alien

[00:39:33] Where I remember as a kid

[00:39:34] The sequels were more

[00:39:36] My speed

[00:39:37] Because they were just more accessible

[00:39:38] Sure

[00:39:39] And having rewatched it

[00:39:40] Like very recently

[00:39:41] I'm like holy fuck this movie is amazing

[00:39:43] Yeah

[00:39:44] Yeah

[00:39:45] I'm really excited to rewatch the Terminator

[00:39:47] But as a 12 year old

[00:39:49] Like it was fucking Terminator 2

[00:39:50] Is what I wanted to see

[00:39:51] Because it was John Connor

[00:39:52] When you're 12

[00:39:53] Yeah, it has John Connor

[00:39:54] And the T-1000 fucking rules

[00:39:56] It does rule

[00:39:59] So they introduce

[00:40:01] Kimberan and

[00:40:02] Separately

[00:40:03] Right?

[00:40:04] I can't tell if I just wasn't paying attention

[00:40:06] If

[00:40:07] If it was hard to follow

[00:40:08] Because the film is a little sloppy

[00:40:10] Yeah

[00:40:11] A little sopily edited

[00:40:12] Right

[00:40:13] Or if this is actually

[00:40:14] Sort of what's going on

[00:40:15] But like

[00:40:16] We get Anne and Kimbera separately

[00:40:18] Before it's revealed that

[00:40:20] Kimbera's her husband

[00:40:21] Right?

[00:40:22] True

[00:40:23] But they're separated

[00:40:24] It's a very weird relationship

[00:40:25] But I actually kind of like

[00:40:26] That they don't ever totally define it

[00:40:28] Yeah

[00:40:29] Don't we see

[00:40:30] Doesn't he

[00:40:31] He see her in bed with a man

[00:40:33] And get really pissed off

[00:40:34] Yes, that's later in the film

[00:40:35] That's like

[00:40:36] And we're still like

[00:40:37] Wait, why is he so mad?

[00:40:39] Like it takes a while for us

[00:40:40] It took a while for me to piece it together

[00:40:41] At that point

[00:40:42] It's been set up

[00:40:43] No, because when they wake her up

[00:40:45] He goes like

[00:40:46] Oh no, it's your husband

[00:40:47] Right

[00:40:48] They always talk about his husband

[00:40:49] In the present tense

[00:40:50] You get the sense

[00:40:51] Obviously the relationship is fractured

[00:40:52] But I don't know if they're actually separated

[00:40:53] They're certainly not divorced

[00:40:55] He's not an ex

[00:40:56] And the way I think we figure out

[00:40:58] That he's married to her

[00:41:00] Well first

[00:41:01] I think you see

[00:41:02] Her with the son

[00:41:03] You see Kimbra with

[00:41:05] What's his name

[00:41:06] Dino White Fisherman

[00:41:07] I think his name is Gabby

[00:41:09] Gabby, yes

[00:41:10] And then you see Kimbra coming across

[00:41:12] His son

[00:41:13] And you go

[00:41:14] Oh, this is his dad

[00:41:15] He calls him dad

[00:41:16] Right

[00:41:17] So it's like

[00:41:18] Are they estranged

[00:41:19] And then later when they

[00:41:20] End up in a scene together

[00:41:21] There's not a lot of warmth

[00:41:22] But they talk about being married

[00:41:24] Right

[00:41:25] And it feels like

[00:41:26] They're kind of married name only now

[00:41:27] They've really grown apart

[00:41:28] Something happened

[00:41:29] And he's

[00:41:30] He's a cop

[00:41:31] Yes

[00:41:32] And he's married to his work

[00:41:33] I mean that's the

[00:41:34] The Henriksen thing

[00:41:35] First of all

[00:41:36] He's not just a cop

[00:41:37] He's a boat cop

[00:41:38] Boat cop

[00:41:39] He's a boat cop

[00:41:40] Henriksen, you know

[00:41:41] As you said

[00:41:42] He's good at the steely sort of focus

[00:41:43] This sort of very calm

[00:41:45] Almost unnerving intensity

[00:41:46] You know

[00:41:47] He's got this

[00:41:48] He's a laser beam

[00:41:49] Yeah, it's his eyes

[00:41:50] It's something about the way

[00:41:51] He looks at the camera

[00:41:52] Or people

[00:41:53] It's weird

[00:41:54] But there's something

[00:41:55] Kind of broken about him

[00:41:56] Right

[00:41:57] Which is the added element

[00:41:58] That makes him compelling

[00:41:59] Why I think he kind of

[00:42:00] Wouldn't be good as

[00:42:01] A Terminator actually

[00:42:02] Yeah, well I think that's what

[00:42:05] Cameron saw in him as the Terminator

[00:42:06] Is that weird sort of robotic

[00:42:08] Right

[00:42:09] Like look he has

[00:42:10] But I think you're right

[00:42:11] I mean it's just impossible

[00:42:12] He's got a little too much heart

[00:42:13] Yeah, I agree with you

[00:42:14] That's the thing

[00:42:15] And that's what makes Bishop

[00:42:16] So perfect is that it's like

[00:42:17] You know

[00:42:18] I mean Bishop

[00:42:19] The character is supposed to have heart

[00:42:20] Right

[00:42:21] That's what I'm saying

[00:42:22] But Bishop is like

[00:42:23] Taylor made for everything

[00:42:24] That's interesting about

[00:42:25] Lance Henriksen

[00:42:26] Right

[00:42:27] This character is so boilerplate

[00:42:28] But he adds all these weird levels

[00:42:29] On to it

[00:42:30] He's a compulsively watchable actor

[00:42:32] And he holds so much back

[00:42:34] Sure

[00:42:35] Like he's one of those actors

[00:42:36] Where you can tell that

[00:42:37] He's doing a lot less than he could

[00:42:39] And not in a lazy way

[00:42:41] But he like doesn't care about

[00:42:42] Having to telegraph anything to you

[00:42:44] He sort of just trusts himself

[00:42:46] And it makes you lean forward

[00:42:47] Because you're like

[00:42:48] This guy, this guy like

[00:42:50] He's holding shit back from us

[00:42:51] Like that's a power move

[00:42:52] To be like

[00:42:53] I don't have to play all my cards

[00:42:55] I got this

[00:42:56] You know I'm only going to play them

[00:42:57] If I need them

[00:42:58] But yeah

[00:42:59] We're interested in the two of them separately

[00:43:01] And then it's like

[00:43:02] They're together

[00:43:03] But they certainly aren't spending a lot of time together

[00:43:05] He certainly seems like a workaholic

[00:43:07] She you know

[00:43:08] Has a job but is much more focused

[00:43:10] On quality of life

[00:43:11] And there's this guy coming around

[00:43:13] Who's definitely flirting with her

[00:43:15] His name is Tyler Sherman

[00:43:16] And Kimbrough is like

[00:43:17] Eyeballing him

[00:43:18] Yeah he's got his eyes on

[00:43:20] He's like what the fuck's your intention here

[00:43:22] He is played by Steve Marichuk

[00:43:25] Yeah

[00:43:26] What did Henrikson done before this

[00:43:28] Because in the credits

[00:43:29] I think he's third built

[00:43:30] But he's got a box around his name

[00:43:32] And was it just like they knew

[00:43:34] Like oh he's the guy

[00:43:35] Because they put a rectangle around him

[00:43:37] Which was sometimes a contractual obligation

[00:43:39] If you weren't first built

[00:43:40] But they want you to know

[00:43:41] That this guy is important

[00:43:42] He was in dog day after noon

[00:43:44] Oh right he was in network

[00:43:45] He's in network

[00:43:46] He's in close encounter with the third kind

[00:43:47] Right

[00:43:48] And he always cops

[00:43:49] He's in Omen 2

[00:43:50] Yeah

[00:43:51] He's in The Visitor

[00:43:52] Always playing cops

[00:43:53] So he's in some huge movies

[00:43:54] Playing very small roles

[00:43:55] But you know he's building up

[00:43:57] You know and then he's good

[00:43:58] In network he's great

[00:43:59] In network he's the executive

[00:44:01] Who's trying to negotiate the deal

[00:44:03] With the Black Panther type group

[00:44:05] Yeah

[00:44:06] Love him

[00:44:07] He's so good

[00:44:08] He's in Prince of the City

[00:44:10] He's in Jagged Edge

[00:44:11] He's in

[00:44:12] So he did the three Lumet movies

[00:44:13] Yeah yeah

[00:44:14] He's in Undangerous Ground

[00:44:15] He's so good

[00:44:16] In Aliens

[00:44:17] Obviously wait

[00:44:18] Right

[00:44:19] What am I thinking of

[00:44:20] That he's so good

[00:44:21] Hard target

[00:44:22] The John Woo movie

[00:44:23] Oh I've never seen that

[00:44:24] Love him

[00:44:25] Okay but there is this interesting thing

[00:44:27] Where it's like

[00:44:28] A. Anne is like not sexualized at all

[00:44:32] The film is about her having an affair

[00:44:34] Yeah I mean we certainly

[00:44:36] Is she yeah

[00:44:37] I mean there's plenty of people

[00:44:39] Like there are these two basically

[00:44:40] Bikini models

[00:44:41] Right

[00:44:42] Who we cut to a few times

[00:44:43] Their job is to wear swimsuits

[00:44:46] And jump around

[00:44:47] They're kits are out on several scenes

[00:44:49] When they're not

[00:44:50] They're jiggling a lot

[00:44:51] And then they get into this fucking subplot

[00:44:52] Where they go into the kitchen

[00:44:53] Try to steal food

[00:44:54] And there's like a stuttering idiot

[00:44:55] If they flirt with a stuttering chef

[00:44:57] Right and they're like

[00:44:58] Yeah I've just slept with two girls at once

[00:44:59] He's like no

[00:45:01] And then they have him bring the food over

[00:45:03] And then they tell him to go fuck off

[00:45:05] And he jumps in the water

[00:45:06] To try to get after that

[00:45:07] As Wikipedia puts it

[00:45:08] Giant Loretta, a pair of women

[00:45:11] Oh interesting

[00:45:12] Arrive on a large boat

[00:45:14] By their own admission

[00:45:15] They are sea bandits

[00:45:17] Yeah

[00:45:18] They don't really amount to anything

[00:45:20] And that feels like an Italian

[00:45:23] Interfere

[00:45:24] Yeah

[00:45:25] They get a

[00:45:26] Even by flying prawnas

[00:45:28] Right and even just the chef character

[00:45:29] So much broader than everything else he's doing

[00:45:31] That's true

[00:45:32] There's also that old woman

[00:45:33] Who's really horny

[00:45:34] Who appears in the beginning

[00:45:35] And the end

[00:45:36] And nowhere in the middle

[00:45:37] What is with her

[00:45:38] I don't know

[00:45:39] She's really weird

[00:45:40] Yeah

[00:45:41] That's weird that part

[00:45:42] Really weird

[00:45:43] Because you're like

[00:45:44] Is this supposed to be funny

[00:45:45] Like what is the

[00:45:46] Why are you including this

[00:45:47] Like it's not

[00:45:48] Obviously it's not like

[00:45:49] Exploitative like T and A stuff

[00:45:51] So that feels like

[00:45:52] Italian interference

[00:45:53] Were like 80% of the way

[00:45:54] Into production

[00:45:55] They were like

[00:45:56] Oh this movie has no jokes

[00:45:57] This guy is very serious

[00:45:59] I mean it's not

[00:46:00] It has no joke

[00:46:01] Right

[00:46:02] We gotta include like

[00:46:03] Some wacky characters

[00:46:04] Stuttering chef

[00:46:05] Stuttering chef

[00:46:06] Horny old lady

[00:46:07] You know it's like

[00:46:08] All these like big

[00:46:09] Broad characters

[00:46:10] That like don't really pay

[00:46:11] Off to anything

[00:46:12] Don't really amount to anything

[00:46:13] I mean the horny old lady

[00:46:14] Certainly does nothing

[00:46:15] In the fucking way

[00:46:16] They sit up at the beginning

[00:46:17] Where she's DTF

[00:46:18] And then later in the film

[00:46:19] She knocks on a door

[00:46:20] With a bottle of champagne

[00:46:22] And a plate of oysters

[00:46:23] And it's like

[00:46:24] You know they're an aphrodisiac

[00:46:25] And then the door opens further

[00:46:26] And there's a naked woman behind him

[00:46:28] Which this is another

[00:46:29] Interesting camera touch

[00:46:30] Talking about like

[00:46:31] How disinterested he seems

[00:46:33] In the cheesecake aspects

[00:46:34] Of the movie

[00:46:35] The woman's naked

[00:46:36] And he frames her only from

[00:46:38] Like the collarbone up

[00:46:40] And even the dancing

[00:46:41] The crazy sea pirate

[00:46:43] Food stealers

[00:46:44] Whatever they fucking call them

[00:46:45] The two young girls

[00:46:46] Who are topless

[00:46:47] Because they're too young

[00:46:48] To die to do that

[00:46:49] So it's like

[00:46:50] So it's like

[00:46:51] You kind of do

[00:46:52] A little bit of the

[00:46:53] In the same way

[00:46:54] But you know

[00:46:55] You do it

[00:46:56] And also like

[00:46:57] Only not

[00:46:58] Like a little bit of the

[00:46:59] In the same way

[00:47:00] But you know

[00:47:01] You don't

[00:47:03] Just get it

[00:47:04] Like the

[00:47:05] And then they get it

[00:47:06] They're like

[00:47:07] Like the

[00:47:08] They're like

[00:47:09] Right

[00:47:10] Like the

[00:47:11] And then they get it

[00:47:12] Like the

[00:47:13] Like the

[00:47:14] The

[00:47:16] the piranhas look as realistic as possible which basically involves us not seeing them

[00:47:20] except when they're like wriggling around like really fast.

[00:47:23] But I also think, I mean you talking about like how does this movie pad out an hour and

[00:47:26] 40 minutes?

[00:47:27] The main thing I think he seems invested in just as sort of maybe like an experiment

[00:47:31] like a Petri dish for what he was going to do later on.

[00:47:33] You know actually I'm having a thought.

[00:47:35] I want to, I got a gripe.

[00:47:36] Ben's having a thought.

[00:47:37] Ben's got a gripe.

[00:47:38] Like alright so they're mutant piranhas.

[00:47:41] Correct.

[00:47:42] Military bread or something.

[00:47:44] Flying piranhas.

[00:47:45] They have to be the same size as a normal piranha.

[00:47:48] Oh great question.

[00:47:49] Classic Ben gripe.

[00:47:50] Cause it's like they're trying to scare us with this idea of like tiny little piranhas

[00:47:55] are going to rip me apart.

[00:47:57] So make them just like three or four times bigger.

[00:48:00] Oh wow I didn't think you were going to go in that direction.

[00:48:02] I thought you were going to argue for them to be small.

[00:48:05] Ooh actually I like that.

[00:48:07] My tiny piranhas.

[00:48:08] Oh they go inside of your bloodstream and they eat you from the inside out.

[00:48:11] I've literally never seen Ben this excited before.

[00:48:13] That's great.

[00:48:14] Have you ever seen that movie interspace or for fantastic voyage where you like shrink down

[00:48:19] and go inside the bloodstream?

[00:48:20] They go inside the human body.

[00:48:21] What if you like fought the piranhas inside blood vessels?

[00:48:24] I agree great point Ben you are our finest film critic.

[00:48:27] Of course.

[00:48:28] The thing I was going to say the movie seems weirdly like Ben's laughing hysterically.

[00:48:34] Ben's in a real.

[00:48:35] Ben's real amped.

[00:48:36] He's punchy today.

[00:48:37] He has some iced coffee and I think maybe he had a jazz up a little bit.

[00:48:38] He's jazzed up.

[00:48:39] He won't stop moving.

[00:48:40] He's laughing a lot.

[00:48:42] Away from the mic.

[00:48:43] We're getting a real show here from Ben today.

[00:48:45] He's getting some crazy like Jiminy Glick on the chair poses.

[00:48:48] He really is Jiminy Glick.

[00:48:54] The thing this movie feels weirdly concerned with which is like going against the rules

[00:48:57] of what you're supposed to do in these movies is he tries to give Anne and Kimbra so much

[00:49:04] integrity as character.

[00:49:05] He does yeah.

[00:49:06] They're one dimensional.

[00:49:07] He tries to invest it with a real art.

[00:49:09] It's like they won't believe her.

[00:49:11] Right.

[00:49:12] Like she's uncovering the piranha scandal.

[00:49:14] And they're played like very straight and even just the way that like.

[00:49:17] And like they just think she's a lady who you know doesn't know any she's a paratits

[00:49:21] and like no one pays attention but the movie nothing around the movie actually backs this

[00:49:26] up.

[00:49:27] No and they don't have good character.

[00:49:29] No.

[00:49:30] That's the thing but he seems really interested in trying to make them solid as characters

[00:49:35] you know with what he has not just make him like sort of clothes horses.

[00:49:40] Yeah clothes horses.

[00:49:41] I'm gonna be like it's a cop he's wearing the cop costume that's all you need to know.

[00:49:46] The scene so she starts having this sort of flirtation with this guy right.

[00:49:50] Tyler Sherman.

[00:49:51] Yeah.

[00:49:52] And they go to the morgue together.

[00:49:53] Yeah.

[00:49:54] On their first date.

[00:49:55] Right.

[00:49:56] To look at a whole written course.

[00:49:57] Oh because she tells that's the first scene where we see her talk to Kimbra right

[00:50:01] is when he's like hey you know this and that your student like he's asking her

[00:50:05] about what happened and she's like I need to see the body.

[00:50:07] I think something weird happened.

[00:50:09] Right.

[00:50:10] He can't let you see the body and she's like I was the last person to be with him.

[00:50:14] And he's like why can't you see the body because he's worried that she's a suspect at this point

[00:50:18] that there was weird foul play but that already tells you so much about their relationship

[00:50:22] because it's like.

[00:50:23] Wow.

[00:50:24] So it's so like cold and he's all business.

[00:50:27] Yeah.

[00:50:28] Right.

[00:50:29] He's just talking her in a business.

[00:50:30] He even has that part.

[00:50:31] He's like my wife has been near the two dead bodies of the three that have appeared

[00:50:35] or some.

[00:50:36] He says that to her.

[00:50:37] Yes.

[00:50:38] And so her and Tyler start like flirting.

[00:50:41] She's like I just need some time alone.

[00:50:43] He's like come on he's being real pushy.

[00:50:44] And she's like fine you want to come with me.

[00:50:47] Fine break into a morgue with me.

[00:50:49] They break into a morgue.

[00:50:50] Yeah.

[00:50:51] They see a whole written body with some of the legs have been chopped off and

[00:50:54] stuff.

[00:50:55] Yeah.

[00:50:56] Bones kind of cool.

[00:50:57] Right.

[00:50:58] Then a nurse arrives.

[00:50:59] Yeah.

[00:51:00] Shoes them away.

[00:51:01] Get out of here.

[00:51:02] You have no respect for the dead.

[00:51:03] Yeah.

[00:51:04] Then she's cleaning up.

[00:51:05] This is kind of a good scene.

[00:51:06] Yeah.

[00:51:07] And it's it's a good Cameron.

[00:51:08] She's Cameron scare where she's underneath the table and then the corpse's hand just sort

[00:51:12] of falls onto her like and body just slips off the table.

[00:51:17] You know prior to that the music's been playing the piranha theme so it's like the building

[00:51:20] kind of tension thing and you're like okay piranha attack, piranha attack, you know.

[00:51:24] And then the arm slips down and you're like oh yeah right false jump scare but no

[00:51:29] when the piranha actually this happens.

[00:51:31] There's a piranha in the body.

[00:51:33] Yeah she looks into the body in the hole and then a little mouth comes out and

[00:51:35] she's like what in the piranha jumps out and flies in her face and attacks her neck

[00:51:38] and everything.

[00:51:39] And then it flies out a window.

[00:51:40] Right.

[00:51:41] Guys that happened.

[00:51:42] This is got flying for us.

[00:51:44] They fly.

[00:51:45] But here's the thing he does a couple times in this movie.

[00:51:48] Builds the tension you know someone's going to happen the music playing the near body

[00:51:51] or they they're near the ocean or whatever it is.

[00:51:54] Oh fake out jump scare here's an arm falling here's a this and then they go like whoo and

[00:52:01] then when the piranha actually jumps out and attacks no music.

[00:52:05] Which is kind of an interesting inversion.

[00:52:06] Yeah yeah yeah I didn't notice that that's good.

[00:52:09] The attacks are like silent like you're just hearing their screams.

[00:52:12] Yeah and it makes them more chilling like less scary but more upsetting but in a way

[00:52:18] that's interesting.

[00:52:19] Then here's the thing.

[00:52:21] Yeah.

[00:52:22] The attacks are all one piranha bites someone's neck.

[00:52:25] Yeah it's not I mean underwater the implication is that the attacks are more like bunch of

[00:52:29] piranhas attack something.

[00:52:30] Yes.

[00:52:31] We don't really see that they obviously don't have the budget for that right so it's pretty

[00:52:35] good they didn't seem where the nurse dies yeah but then once the same one over

[00:52:40] and over again on the boat I mean it's the same thing you're a little sick of

[00:52:43] it yeah and then like they do it again at the party en masse it's no good.

[00:52:47] Yeah it's no good.

[00:52:48] The movie after I would say after the nurse gets attacked the movie is no good for basically

[00:52:53] the whole movie until the end.

[00:52:54] But here's the scene I find the most interesting Ben Ben shaking his head I'm sorry.

[00:52:58] Worked up.

[00:52:59] Ben's getting worked up.

[00:53:00] I just got so mad because piranhas should come out of the toilet and totally get

[00:53:03] somebody in the butt and they never did that.

[00:53:05] Have you seen snakes on a plane?

[00:53:06] Hell yeah.

[00:53:07] Because there's the bitten snakes on a plane I believe where a snake comes out

[00:53:09] of the toilet and bites the guy in the dick.

[00:53:10] Yeah yeah that's great that's what you wanted.

[00:53:13] That's fun.

[00:53:14] Yeah.

[00:53:15] Do you see his dick?

[00:53:16] You don't which I don't love.

[00:53:18] Yeah.

[00:53:19] Anyway.

[00:53:20] You know what's the one thing about like because I know this is our big soapbox

[00:53:23] is like getting more dicks on movies.

[00:53:25] Yeah.

[00:53:26] Uh I was just like the two perfunctory scenes were there.

[00:53:30] Here you go hold on here's your box.

[00:53:32] Oh thank you Ben please say soapbox on the ground I'm stepping up onto it.

[00:53:35] Great great object work guys.

[00:53:37] Doing some foley work here this is me stepping up to the box.

[00:53:42] Yeah that really sounds like you stepping onto the box yeah yeah that's how

[00:53:45] many steps you take to the box.

[00:53:47] Sorry the box is really far away let me walk over now let me work for myself a glass of water.

[00:53:56] What is it about dick?

[00:53:59] Let me drink this water.

[00:54:00] You piece of shit.

[00:54:03] Here's the thing about dicks okay in this movie the scenes the perfunctory like

[00:54:08] topless scenes from the actresses you're like oh fuck you know no question

[00:54:15] like sexism exists in the industry you know devaluing women as characters robbing

[00:54:19] them of agency all they exist to do is be titillation no question but just talking

[00:54:24] in pure like cinematic terms it's much harder to frame a dick clearly in an

[00:54:30] image and also get a motion from the actor because you have to go far enough

[00:54:33] away.

[00:54:34] You do.

[00:54:35] Whereas like you can just kind of like look if the dick was on our chest

[00:54:38] maybe things would be different that's my okay so here's my new soapbox Ben

[00:54:41] will you throw the new soapbox on the ground.

[00:54:43] Oh this is heavy.

[00:54:47] Walk over it's on the other side of the room.

[00:54:49] Okay I'm sorry I know we're running long so let me just run over there.

[00:54:59] Okay let me put myself a glass of whiskey.

[00:55:01] Whiskey wow.

[00:55:03] We drink this whiskey.

[00:55:12] New soapbox we should have dicks on our chest.

[00:55:16] Good job buddy.

[00:55:18] Hey Grimmy get down from there.

[00:55:21] Hold on one second let me jump off of this soapbox.

[00:55:24] Can you guys tell the baby we don't have a ton to say about this movie?

[00:55:28] Let me launch my parachute.

[00:55:36] And of course this is happening after David read that review where people say that you

[00:55:47] oced a rail bit so I refuse to derail this thing.

[00:55:51] Oh wait guys I landed in a tree hold on one second let me get myself out of the

[00:55:59] leaves here.

[00:56:01] Crickle that's the word.

[00:56:03] I can't hear you these leaves are crickling too loud.

[00:56:07] Maybe we should just do this as much as possible so that person understands what my job is on this

[00:56:12] fucking show.

[00:56:14] Be careful what you wish for baby.

[00:56:17] Um okay so they leave the morgue and they fuck right they have some hot sex.

[00:56:24] You're talking about Tyler and Anne.

[00:56:27] They fuck at the hotel.

[00:56:29] Oh and the son has certain points kind of discarded because he starts working on a boat with a young

[00:56:33] pretty young thing that he clearly has a crush on and the dad's like pretty cute huh and they're like

[00:56:39] yeah and he's just on the boat with her right and you're like at some point he's going to be in danger.

[00:56:44] Which he kind of is a little bit at the end.

[00:56:46] Kimbra kind of saves him before he's in danger.

[00:56:48] Kimbra just sort of pulls the boat up next to him and is like get on and they do.

[00:56:52] But before there's ever like a threat like the threat is we know that Perana's in the water.

[00:56:56] But she is like a sixth brawless character so I guess there's that.

[00:57:00] Right.

[00:57:01] Yeah.

[00:57:02] But Anne and Tyler sleep together right?

[00:57:04] They do and the film doesn't really judge them for that no big deal.

[00:57:08] Which I kind of love.

[00:57:09] No me too but then Kimbra shows up and he's like.

[00:57:12] Yes but he also doesn't freak out like he doesn't.

[00:57:16] No.

[00:57:17] So he comes because he's like there are three people have died in the last 24 hours

[00:57:23] and you were the last one to see two of them.

[00:57:25] Right.

[00:57:26] Like the scene very quickly becomes about the stakes of the Perana situation.

[00:57:30] So like she's still sleeping Tyler's got the arm around her.

[00:57:33] Kimbra is there looking for her he walks and he sees the two of them in bed.

[00:57:37] Tyler sort of weekly waves and then Kimbra just like kind of like fucking shakes his head and walks out right.

[00:57:42] Right.

[00:57:43] And Tyler wakes her up and he's like hey your husband just showed up.

[00:57:46] Yeah.

[00:57:47] And she's like oh fuck and she refers to it at some point earlier in the film as an affair.

[00:57:51] Like she does say it's an affair.

[00:57:52] Right.

[00:57:53] You know which is like not the ex-husband but it's like he's so distant that it's like

[00:57:56] she needs to find love from somebody.

[00:57:57] It's basically over.

[00:57:58] Yeah.

[00:57:59] And you think this film a shittier version of this film could go towards the M.

[00:58:03] Nite Shaman thing where it's like you know oh the man who's become too obsessed with

[00:58:07] another thing and has neglected his wife and by the end the film he has to realize

[00:58:10] that the wife is the thing he cares about the most.

[00:58:12] Right.

[00:58:13] But this movie is just kind of like I mean he cares about her but he's incapable

[00:58:16] of showing real emotion.

[00:58:17] He's.

[00:58:18] Like that's Kimbra's thing.

[00:58:19] He's emotional in aliens.

[00:58:21] Yeah.

[00:58:22] He's even a little emotional in the Terminator I would say.

[00:58:24] Yeah.

[00:58:25] A little sympathetic.

[00:58:26] That's a bunch of this one.

[00:58:27] But I think the character is kind of written that way like it's almost an

[00:58:29] interesting exploration of a guy who is so obsessive that he can't really connect

[00:58:32] to other people.

[00:58:33] So obsessive about his job is basically a beach patrolman.

[00:58:36] Right.

[00:58:37] I mean like it's weird.

[00:58:38] But they like Tyler wakes her up and he's like your husband's here and she's

[00:58:42] like what?

[00:58:43] And he's like I tried to gnaw my arm off but I couldn't do it in time.

[00:58:46] So he turns out to talk to Kimbra.

[00:58:47] They don't talk about that at all.

[00:58:49] No, he's like.

[00:58:50] He's seething and it's actually kind of dramatically interesting.

[00:58:54] Like more interesting than you get out of most of these movies where the scene, I'm

[00:58:57] focused on the scene so much just because I think the scene is kind of an anomaly

[00:59:00] in this type of movie.

[00:59:01] But there's no possessive fight over it.

[00:59:03] Uh huh.

[00:59:04] He kind of realizes like.

[00:59:05] You're right.

[00:59:06] You're right.

[00:59:07] I mean I can't be angry.

[00:59:08] Well I haven't been there for her.

[00:59:09] What can I fucking say?

[00:59:10] Well but then.

[00:59:11] He gets down to business which is like this, that three people dead.

[00:59:14] You need to be ready and she's like flying piranhas and he's like what the fuck are you talking about?

[00:59:18] I don't want to hear this bullshit.

[00:59:20] So the scene is him doubting her because he's starting to worry that she's a suspect.

[00:59:23] But there's like no shaming over the affair.

[00:59:26] There's no angry fight.

[00:59:27] No I know.

[00:59:28] And the movie just kind of proceeds which is like that feels like that's Cameron's

[00:59:32] more interested in that.

[00:59:33] It's funny because yeah and then at the end of the movie.

[00:59:37] Do we have to say anything more about the part of this movie?

[00:59:39] No what if they go to the front of it.

[00:59:41] They do a thing.

[00:59:42] It seems out that Steve, I mean that Tyler.

[00:59:45] Works for the company.

[00:59:46] Works for the piranhas.

[00:59:48] The company that militarized the piranhas and gave him wings.

[00:59:51] The piranha militarizing company and for some reason they dropped off a bunch of like piranha eggs?

[00:59:57] Yeah.

[00:59:58] He knew this.

[00:59:59] Yeah he knew.

[01:00:00] This was a big influence on the low hop.

[01:00:02] Yeah exactly.

[01:00:03] The militarization of piranhas.

[01:00:05] Piranhas.

[01:00:06] There's also that weird scene where they kill the piranhas by playing the entire history of media to them.

[01:00:11] That was a great scene.

[01:00:12] That was a great scene.

[01:00:13] Bill Murray was really mad though.

[01:00:14] Yeah.

[01:00:15] Um piranhas are a crazy force that'll just knock you out.

[01:00:20] They have that second act fight.

[01:00:22] Yes.

[01:00:23] Where she's like I can't believe you didn't tell me you knew about the militarization of the piranhas.

[01:00:27] You know where it's like the clout, you know like it's a very typical sort of moment in a script like this where it's like then the couple like you know fights over something but then they get back together to take on the piranhas.

[01:00:39] Which involves them swimming through a lot of air shafts underwater.

[01:00:42] They're trying to, well Gabby's trying to break.

[01:00:45] Yes.

[01:00:46] The dynamite fisherman makes a bomb out of like an alarm clock or something.

[01:00:51] Right.

[01:00:52] Which you probably enjoyed.

[01:00:53] There's a lot of close ups on a ticking clock.

[01:00:56] Well there's also that thing where something Cameron loves and there's so much of that in Aliens.

[01:01:00] And Gabby goes to her boss, not Gabby I'm sorry, fucking Anne goes to her boss.

[01:01:05] Yeah he goes to her boss and she goes to her boss and says flying piranhas and he says you're fired.

[01:01:08] Right.

[01:01:09] Which I just, that's a lot of the Cameron movies, the villain of every Cameron movie is usually the corporate stews.

[01:01:15] A bureaucrat who doesn't understand what it's like on the ground.

[01:01:19] Right and is more interested in trying to get something be it money, be it unobtainium, be it the xenomorphs.

[01:01:25] And does not care about how many human lives.

[01:01:27] He goes, do you know?

[01:01:28] RPC is so good in Avatar.

[01:01:29] It's crazy.

[01:01:30] I'm so excited to talk about that.

[01:01:32] But the fucking merchandise spotlights we're gonna have for the rest of the season are unbelievable.

[01:01:35] Oh no.

[01:01:36] I'm back in fertile merchandise spotlight territory.

[01:01:40] It's just the arcade games alone.

[01:01:42] The games, I'm down.

[01:01:44] But that's like a classic Cameron trope.

[01:01:47] And the guys are like we already have appointments booked all day, I'm not canceling them.

[01:01:51] You're fired.

[01:01:52] And so she feels like there's the conspiratorial much like the Whalen Utani company of like, oh they don't care.

[01:01:58] They know and we don't care.

[01:02:01] The money you make from diving lessons.

[01:02:04] Right.

[01:02:05] And then you have to put your hands, Gabby loses diving bureaucrat.

[01:02:08] There's a scene where Gabby's over the dead bodies.

[01:02:10] That's supposed to be a friend of his or relative friend of his.

[01:02:12] And then Gabby bites it at the big spawning scene, which happens at a party.

[01:02:16] But that's Gabby has the scene with him where he's like, I don't care if I die.

[01:02:18] I need to go down there.

[01:02:19] I need to stop this.

[01:02:20] So he makes the bomb.

[01:02:21] Yes.

[01:02:22] But Anne and Steve take it down, not Steve Tyler, Tyler take it down there.

[01:02:27] Yeah.

[01:02:28] They put the bomb down there and then they have to leave.

[01:02:30] It's actually pretty simple.

[01:02:31] It's very simple.

[01:02:32] But it just takes them a while.

[01:02:33] So they've already done that drumming thing where they tried to like conjure the fish on the beach.

[01:02:37] Yeah, and then maybe the fish cut them off.

[01:02:39] Yeah.

[01:02:40] I don't know.

[01:02:41] I don't know.

[01:02:42] Well, the only thing that's good is like during this big final sequence.

[01:02:45] Yeah.

[01:02:46] So you're cutting to upstairs where above the water upstairs.

[01:02:49] Yeah.

[01:02:50] Where Lance Henry is in a helicopter and then he crash lands a helicopter on the water somehow.

[01:02:54] Uh-huh.

[01:02:55] What was that about?

[01:02:56] That was weird.

[01:02:57] He jumps out of the helicopter.

[01:02:58] I don't totally understand, but it looks cool.

[01:03:00] It looks pretty good for a cheap movie.

[01:03:02] He jumps out of the helicopter and then the helicopter crashes in the water and explodes.

[01:03:05] Then he gets on a boat, picks up the kids and then goes over to the wreck.

[01:03:10] The kids who don't seem to be in danger.

[01:03:12] Right, which is interesting.

[01:03:13] Yeah.

[01:03:14] Meanwhile down at the wreck you've got Ann and Tyler.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:19] And they're swimming through these air shafts and Ann makes it out and Tyler doesn't.

[01:03:22] He gets eaten by the piranha.

[01:03:25] Yeah.

[01:03:26] And what I just like is Cameron puts like a red light on his death scene.

[01:03:30] Yeah.

[01:03:31] Like a red filter or a red light or something.

[01:03:33] Yeah.

[01:03:34] And looks pretty good.

[01:03:35] Looks pretty good.

[01:03:36] Because all he's got is this shot of wriggling piranhas, like a big group of them.

[01:03:39] Yeah.

[01:03:40] Like they're not moving.

[01:03:41] Yeah.

[01:03:42] I mean they're wriggling but they're not moving in any direction.

[01:03:43] But it's kind of a little scary.

[01:03:45] Yeah.

[01:03:46] And apparently he used some of the very early tech to make his face huggers in aliens.

[01:03:52] Like you know, the same ideas.

[01:03:53] Yes, I think he said it was the same sort of principles and doing that sort of stuff.

[01:03:56] So that's cool.

[01:03:57] But the movie ends with...

[01:03:58] Oh, you know, she gets out of there.

[01:04:00] She grabs onto the anchor as the boat is leaving.

[01:04:02] They think she's dead.

[01:04:03] It's kind of a nice unspoken silent moment where Kimbrell looks and she's not there and sits

[01:04:08] on the boat and then the sun kind of reacts and can tell from his father's face what happened.

[01:04:12] And he sort of grabs his son and holds him without having to say anything.

[01:04:15] And then she bubbles up to the water, you know?

[01:04:17] She floats up and then they all get together and they hug and it's...

[01:04:21] He doesn't overplay it but it's like the end of the movie is like, well she had this affair.

[01:04:24] The guy died, Kimbrell almost lost her.

[01:04:27] Maybe now he's gonna like appreciate it but he doesn't say anything, you know?

[01:04:30] No.

[01:04:31] He doesn't say anything dot dot dot.

[01:04:32] Yeah, it's like a very interesting portrayal of a marriage in this film because it's like...

[01:04:38] That's a stretch but it's more interesting than you'd expect.

[01:04:40] For this type of movie.

[01:04:42] It's on that relative scale it's very interesting because you rarely see affairs depicted like this as not being like a traitorous act, you know?

[01:04:52] And not villainizing the characters for engaging in them.

[01:04:55] And Kimbrell like isn't an asshole, he just can't be there for her.

[01:04:59] That's his failing as a person.

[01:05:01] Right.

[01:05:02] And the movie seems more interested in that than anything else.

[01:05:05] I think speaking to Cameron's nature as like a very obsessive person, I think he kind of gets that kind of guy.

[01:05:10] I mean, I don't know if we're gonna cover it on this but there's a movie called like James Cameron's Deep Sea Dive or something like that.

[01:05:16] It was a film he didn't direct, it was a 3D documentary.

[01:05:19] Oh maybe that should be our bonus episode.

[01:05:21] Well I think we do need to do the two that he directed as well but maybe we do that as well.

[01:05:24] We're gonna do the two he directed as an episode.

[01:05:26] Yeah.

[01:05:27] That's an episode.

[01:05:28] I think we should do that as a bonus episode because that movie is fascinating but it's about him going on an exploration to dive deeper than anyone ever has in the ocean.

[01:05:35] Oh, I think that's one of the movies he made.

[01:05:37] It doesn't look good.

[01:05:38] This came out like two years ago he didn't direct it.

[01:05:40] Alright.

[01:05:41] I saw it in theaters, it was released in 3D.

[01:05:42] There's Aliens of the Deep and there's Ghosts of the Abyss and this is called like James Cameron's Undersea Exploration 3D.

[01:05:49] Like the title is that clunky.

[01:05:51] Right.

[01:05:52] So they talk to Susie Amos who's his current wife and the whole thing is he's going down into this little pod where the pressure is so great in the ocean that if like a rivet isn't perfectly tightened he will just explode.

[01:06:05] Like he will explode in a capsule.

[01:06:07] And they just talk to Susie Amos and she's just kind of like, well yeah I mean I'd love it if my husband didn't need to put himself in a situation with a very high risk of death.

[01:06:18] But I guess that's who I'm married to.

[01:06:20] That's who she's married to.

[01:06:21] So you just have to know that he would rather like go deeper into the ocean than anyone ever has when that's a hobby, not even his job.

[01:06:28] Like he's electing to do that then make sure that he could be there for his wife and kids forever, you know?

[01:06:34] No, we'll talk more about him but that's what you've got to roll with with James Cameron.

[01:06:39] You know what else we could do as a bonus?

[01:06:41] What?

[01:06:42] We could do T2 3D Battle Across Time.

[01:06:46] Which I want to do.

[01:06:47] But let's talk about the matter at hand.

[01:06:49] Yes.

[01:06:50] There has been a bonus episode that's been suggested to us.

[01:06:53] I'm very much in favor of doing it.

[01:06:54] David is against it.

[01:06:55] Ben, I want your opinion and also I want listeners to write in because I think you're all going to back me up on this.

[01:07:02] Right, but we're not going to do it.

[01:07:03] There is a touring Cirque du Soleil show that is coming to the New York Barclay Center the weekend of September 11th.

[01:07:12] It's playing like the 6th to the 11th or something like that.

[01:07:14] The 7th to the 11th?

[01:07:15] Right, very soon, right?

[01:07:17] It might actually be right around when this episode drops called Turric, the first flight.

[01:07:24] And it is a Cirque du Soleil show inspired by but telling a new original story in the Avatar universe.

[01:07:31] We're doing a fucking James Cameron miniseries.

[01:07:34] There's a James Cameron Cirque du Soleil show that is coming to New York City while we're recording and David doesn't want to go.

[01:07:41] Right, I doubt it.

[01:07:43] Here's why.

[01:07:44] Don't want to go.

[01:07:45] Ben?

[01:07:46] Ben, that's boring.

[01:07:47] Well, alright.

[01:07:48] I like a carnival.

[01:07:50] Hell's here.

[01:07:51] I like a-

[01:07:52] I love a carnival.

[01:07:53] I like a French carnival.

[01:07:54] Ben Hosler.

[01:07:55] I like a French carnival.

[01:07:56] I love a French carnival.

[01:07:57] Ben Hosler.

[01:07:58] I never saw an Avatar.

[01:08:00] Well are you excited to see Avatar?

[01:08:03] Yeah, I bummed that I didn't get the 3D experience.

[01:08:05] And I'll say maybe you should buy a 3D TV.

[01:08:07] Listener and friend of the show Jordan Fish has a 3D TV and has offered up our 3D TV.

[01:08:14] This 3D TV to us to watch the 3D movies, the two documentaries and Avatar.

[01:08:18] Isn't it funny how 3D TVs for a second it was like, oh soon they're all going to be 3D.

[01:08:23] And now it's like everyone's like, forget it.

[01:08:26] Forget it.

[01:08:27] Forget it.

[01:08:28] Forget it.

[01:08:29] They're curved now.

[01:08:30] That's the new thing.

[01:08:32] I can't wait for one year from now for them to be like, oh actually turns out curves are a bad idea.

[01:08:37] Like TV should be flat.

[01:08:39] Yeah, I don't get the curve thing.

[01:08:41] Well, this has been our episode.

[01:08:43] No, no, no.

[01:08:44] What?

[01:08:45] No, no, no, no.

[01:08:46] Box Office Game.

[01:08:47] Box Office Game.

[01:08:48] Okay.

[01:08:49] Excuse me.

[01:08:50] But as we're playing the Box Office Game I'm going to hand Ben a phone playing the Avatar Cirque du Soleil show so he can see and weigh in on whether or not he wants to see this.

[01:08:57] I know what Ben's going to say immediately.

[01:08:59] Well of course.

[01:09:00] That's just pandering.

[01:09:01] Box Office Game.

[01:09:02] This didn't come anywhere close to the top 10.

[01:09:03] It barely got released but we're going to try to-

[01:09:04] It's not even listed in Box Office Mojo's database because I don't think- I don't know how much money this movie made.

[01:09:09] It's not known.

[01:09:11] Ben's got a huge grin on his face.

[01:09:12] I was not supposed to listen to it though.

[01:09:13] So this movie came out.

[01:09:15] Let's go.

[01:09:16] Right, we gotta go.

[01:09:17] Yeah, you guys are fun.

[01:09:18] You're coming.

[01:09:19] You're coming with us David.

[01:09:21] Uh-huh.

[01:09:22] That's great.

[01:09:23] So-

[01:09:24] Oh they got kites.

[01:09:26] Let me see this.

[01:09:27] Let me see this.

[01:09:29] Cirque the first flight.

[01:09:30] It kind of looks basically like someone ripped off the Lion King like you know except with Avatar.

[01:09:36] Yeah.

[01:09:37] There they are.

[01:09:38] How long is this?

[01:09:39] God Lord.

[01:09:40] I think it's seven hours.

[01:09:41] It's probably like an hour 40.

[01:09:43] It's probably like a trim hour 40.

[01:09:45] Like you know one of these episodes so painfully bad.

[01:09:48] I can't wait to see this.

[01:09:49] I can't wait to see this with you.

[01:09:50] I'm going to have such a good time watching this next to you.

[01:09:52] Okay, Box Office Game 1981.

[01:09:54] So it came out the weekend in November 4th 1982.

[01:09:57] I love this.

[01:09:58] I'm so excited to see this.

[01:09:59] Yeah.

[01:10:00] Uh- it came out in Italy in 81.

[01:10:01] Yeah okay.

[01:10:02] Put the trailer away.

[01:10:03] Put it away.

[01:10:04] They're petting a dire horse.

[01:10:05] Put it away now.

[01:10:06] The floating mountains of Pandora.

[01:10:08] That's right.

[01:10:09] So the number one movie that week.

[01:10:11] Okay.

[01:10:12] I want you to tell me.

[01:10:13] From 1982 November it was an action movie.

[01:10:16] One of his best ever.

[01:10:18] The actor or the director?

[01:10:20] The actor.

[01:10:21] I don't even know who directed it.

[01:10:22] Forget it.

[01:10:23] Interesting.

[01:10:24] Okay so it's pretty anonymous.

[01:10:25] One of his best ever.

[01:10:27] It's such a good movie.

[01:10:29] It's not Schwarzenegger, it's not Stallone.

[01:10:31] It is Stallone.

[01:10:32] It is Stallone.

[01:10:33] Is it First Blood?

[01:10:34] First Blood.

[01:10:35] Okay.

[01:10:36] And then Cameron writes.

[01:10:37] Rambo 2.

[01:10:38] He writes Rambo 2.

[01:10:39] I think he's the sole credited screenwriter.

[01:10:41] Yes.

[01:10:42] Interesting.

[01:10:43] I think you're right.

[01:10:44] Which is not a good movie.

[01:10:45] But it's kind of fun.

[01:10:46] Yeah.

[01:10:47] Alright number two.

[01:10:48] First Blood.

[01:10:49] Okay it's number one.

[01:10:50] Is it made 6.6 million in the second week?

[01:10:51] Number two is a national lampoon movie but not one I know.

[01:10:54] Early one.

[01:10:55] Pre-animal house.

[01:10:56] Not pre-animal house.

[01:10:58] Because animal house comes out before that.

[01:10:59] I think animal house is 79.

[01:11:00] No.

[01:11:01] You're right.

[01:11:02] You're right.

[01:11:03] It's the third animal house.

[01:11:05] Right.

[01:11:06] They filmed it while he was still on.

[01:11:07] It's the third animal house.

[01:11:08] Right.

[01:11:09] And vacation hasn't happened yet?

[01:11:10] No.

[01:11:11] Okay so it's.

[01:11:12] John Hughes is the credited writer.

[01:11:15] Oh oh I fucking, oh god.

[01:11:18] It's a really dull name.

[01:11:19] I know what this is.

[01:11:20] Yeah.

[01:11:21] Have you seen it?

[01:11:22] No but I just know because of reading like John Hughes profiles and shit.

[01:11:26] I'm never going to get the title.

[01:11:28] What's the fucking name of this one?

[01:11:29] Class reunion.

[01:11:30] Yes I knew it was something school-

[01:11:31] Never heard of it.

[01:11:32] Yeah.

[01:11:33] I've never heard of it.

[01:11:34] I've never seen it.

[01:11:35] I have heard no one say anything interesting about it.

[01:11:37] It just comes up when people are writing about John Hughes' career.

[01:11:39] I knew it was some school fucking thing.

[01:11:41] Number three is a movie that some people like.

[01:11:43] It's the third in a horror franchise.

[01:11:46] Is it the best one?

[01:11:47] Is it Nightmare on the Street part 3?

[01:11:49] Dream Warriors?

[01:11:50] Dream Warriors?

[01:11:51] It's not Dream Warriors.

[01:11:53] Okay because that's the best.

[01:11:54] It is the, it's a curio.

[01:11:57] Is it Halloween 3 season of the witch?

[01:11:59] That's right.

[01:12:00] That's right.

[01:12:01] Which I've never seen.

[01:12:02] And is that was the one.

[01:12:03] It's the one that doesn't have Michael Myers in it.

[01:12:04] It's just another.

[01:12:05] They tried to make it an anthology of just films that take place on Halloween.

[01:12:08] Yeah.

[01:12:09] And then they never did that again.

[01:12:11] But I think some people kind of like it.

[01:12:13] Yeah.

[01:12:14] It's got its fans I think.

[01:12:15] Yeah.

[01:12:16] I just think it's a cool idea they did that.

[01:12:17] And then we're like, never mind.

[01:12:18] Halloween 4.

[01:12:19] Mikey Myers baby.

[01:12:20] Number four was I believe the number one gursing film of all time at the time.

[01:12:25] Each of the Extra Terrestrial?

[01:12:26] Correct.

[01:12:27] In what week of release?

[01:12:29] 74?

[01:12:30] It is in the 21st week of release.

[01:12:32] It has made $279 million.

[01:12:34] That will.

[01:12:35] In 1982.

[01:12:36] Never happened again.

[01:12:37] A run like that.

[01:12:38] Okay.

[01:12:39] In fact in just to adjust for inflation it had made $823 million domestically.

[01:12:48] Number five is a movie that adjusted had made $250 million in its 14th week of release.

[01:12:54] It was an Oscar winner.

[01:12:55] It's a romantic drama.

[01:12:57] Out of Africa?

[01:12:58] No.

[01:12:59] Oh no, no because that wins a different year.

[01:13:01] I think it's been like 85 or something.

[01:13:03] Starring, I don't want to tell you, it won an Oscar for best supporting actor.

[01:13:07] It's a naval romance.

[01:13:09] Oh, oh.

[01:13:11] The great Lou Gossett Jr.

[01:13:13] Giving an Oscar perf in Officer and a Gentleman.

[01:13:15] Officer and a Gentleman which made so much money.

[01:13:18] Yeah.

[01:13:19] Holy shit.

[01:13:20] You are the wind beneath you.

[01:13:21] You know you forget because like to us an officer gentlemen it's like it's a footnote,

[01:13:26] right?

[01:13:27] It's like well there's the scene where he lifts her up and carries her out.

[01:13:30] Yeah.

[01:13:31] And what's it?

[01:13:34] Dickie.

[01:13:35] The junior's in it, you know Dickie Gears in it and he's got a cute uniform on.

[01:13:38] That movie made $400 million adjusted, you know.

[01:13:41] It was a phenomenon.

[01:13:43] Remember when adults used to go see movies?

[01:13:45] It's crazy.

[01:13:46] So there you go that's your top five.

[01:13:49] That's fascinating.

[01:13:50] You've also got Monseigneur which I think is like a Peter O'Toole.

[01:13:53] Never heard of it but it sounds like a Peter O'Toole movie.

[01:13:56] Pink Floyd the Wall is up there.

[01:13:58] Rocky III is in there.

[01:13:59] Rocky III and First Blood both in the top ten.

[01:14:02] Dude, baby's still on.

[01:14:03] Yeah anyway.

[01:14:05] 82 different time.

[01:14:07] It's a different time.

[01:14:08] But that's...

[01:14:09] So yeah everything else is going to be really great guys.

[01:14:12] Yeah get ready.

[01:14:13] So sorry about this episode.

[01:14:14] I mean we had fun but...

[01:14:15] I had fun.

[01:14:16] I don't know if it was...

[01:14:17] I mean the wide awake Pring with Anger like lead into the Shyamalan series is also

[01:14:23] pretty weak.

[01:14:24] I think that...

[01:14:25] What could we do?

[01:14:26] Yeah but combining the two made it a little like more action packed.

[01:14:29] What if we combined Piranha to the Spawning End, the Terminator.

[01:14:32] Yeah but that was the problem.

[01:14:34] I wish he had two underwhelming movies at the beginning.

[01:14:37] I mean we could have watched his short film Xenogenesis.

[01:14:40] Is it available online anyway?

[01:14:41] I have no idea.

[01:14:42] I've never looked for it.

[01:14:43] He did make a 12 minute like sci-fi movie in 1978 which was his calling card I guess.

[01:14:50] I feel like this is going to be the first season where we do 12 different bonus episodes.

[01:14:54] Yeah we maybe will do...

[01:14:55] I mean or maybe we'll do multiple episodes for like a certain movie.

[01:15:01] I don't know man.

[01:15:02] I don't know man.

[01:15:03] Game over man.

[01:15:04] Game over man.

[01:15:05] Look thank you for listening.

[01:15:06] Please remember to rate, review, subscribe.

[01:15:08] New mini.

[01:15:09] It's a new mini.

[01:15:10] We broke off a new mini baby.

[01:15:12] That was me breaking it off.

[01:15:14] That's what happens when you break off a new mini.

[01:15:17] And like a flare gun that goes up into the sky.

[01:15:20] Yeah not flare gun, flare gun.

[01:15:22] I don't know.

[01:15:23] Flare kiss?

[01:15:24] Yeah flare kiss.

[01:15:25] Flare kiss.

[01:15:26] No no no no no no no no.

[01:15:28] Flare kiss.

[01:15:29] Yeah.

[01:15:30] How was that?

[01:15:31] Do you like that?

[01:15:32] I love that.

[01:15:33] 15 comedy points.

[01:15:34] I didn't like it.

[01:15:35] 50 or 15?

[01:15:36] 15.

[01:15:37] And hey shout out to and thanks to Andy Levy who Andy Leevy really recently,

[01:15:44] he'll be less recently by the time there's airs had me on his show Red Eye the Fox

[01:15:48] News Show interviewed me to talk about the tick and on air gave me 10 comedy

[01:15:52] points.

[01:15:53] Yes and I told him to do that via Twitter DM.

[01:15:55] Yeah but he did it.

[01:15:56] No he did it.

[01:15:57] I was not sure that he was going to do it.

[01:15:59] There's no footage of me on Fox News being given 10 comedy points.

[01:16:02] Well you bring up Andy.

[01:16:03] You just made me think we never talked about the Jewish stereotype.

[01:16:07] Character in the movie.

[01:16:08] Who disappears.

[01:16:09] Who just disappears.

[01:16:10] He does have sex.

[01:16:11] The dentist?

[01:16:12] Yeah.

[01:16:13] I mean that's the last you see of him right?

[01:16:15] Yeah.

[01:16:16] During the piranha attack he's like huh well I'm getting late or like so

[01:16:19] you know he closes the screen door.

[01:16:21] So at least he has sex.

[01:16:23] Nice.

[01:16:24] Nice.

[01:16:25] So Andy Levy that's what made you, is it Levy or Levy?

[01:16:28] I don't know that's why I'm cutting both ways.

[01:16:30] But that man's Jewish last name made you think of the Jewish stereotype in this

[01:16:34] movie great job Ben Hosley.

[01:16:35] Yeah very reductive Jesus Christ Ben.

[01:16:37] You've gotten mad with power.

[01:16:39] Okay sorry.

[01:16:41] Yeah you might be a fine stone critic but you're not a finest humanist.

[01:16:45] No I like everybody.

[01:16:48] Ben for president.

[01:16:51] You're not 35 yet so maybe not president but you know think about it.

[01:16:56] Maybe next time.

[01:16:58] I could do politics.

[01:17:00] Maybe you know politician but president?

[01:17:04] Yeah president Hosidun.

[01:17:08] BOTUS.

[01:17:09] Yeah there we go BOTUS.

[01:17:11] Great.

[01:17:12] Ben of the United States.

[01:17:13] You guys are enjoying this right?

[01:17:14] I'm having a great time.

[01:17:15] Ben don't keep this all in.

[01:17:16] Keep it all in and then play it again.

[01:17:18] Double it.

[01:17:19] Play it again.

[01:17:20] Yeah Sam.

[01:17:21] Play it again Ben.

[01:17:22] We're going to rewind and start from the beginning.

[01:17:23] Yeah just play it all backwards.

[01:17:24] Fantastic.

[01:17:25] You know like memento style.

[01:17:26] Yep.

[01:17:27] Thank you all for listening.

[01:17:30] Tune in next week for the Terminator.

[01:17:32] The Terminator.

[01:17:33] Good movie.

[01:17:34] Yeah.

[01:17:35] Which apparently you haven't seen so that's actually exciting.

[01:17:36] I haven't seen it a lot.

[01:17:37] But you have barely remembered.

[01:17:38] I haven't seen through adult eyes.

[01:17:40] Exactly.

[01:17:41] I remember it.

[01:17:42] Really good through adult eyes especially.

[01:17:43] Yeah.

[01:17:44] And then in modern terms is a movie that is about women feeling

[01:17:48] under threat at all times wherever they go while they're walking

[01:17:51] on the streets at night.

[01:17:52] I'm excited to see it.

[01:17:53] Yeah really great movie.

[01:17:54] Michael Bean baby.

[01:17:55] Michael Bean baby.

[01:17:56] Bean baby bean.

[01:17:57] Bean baby bean.

[01:17:59] Thank you for listening.

[01:18:01] Yes.

[01:18:02] And as always.

[01:18:03] Yes.

[01:18:04] Ben what do you mind?

[01:18:05] Placing down my tallest soapbox.

[01:18:07] Oh yeah hold on.

[01:18:09] It's made of metal.

[01:18:11] Clink.

[01:18:14] It's metal so it made a...

[01:18:16] Yeah that was kind of like...

[01:18:26] A lot of steps.

[01:18:27] Let me just take a breather here.

[01:18:29] Okay let's...

[01:18:30] Okay let me change outfits.

[01:18:39] Unzip this.

[01:18:41] Jump suit here.

[01:18:44] Zip.

[01:18:45] Do these velcro latches.

[01:18:48] Kick.

[01:18:49] Kick.

[01:18:50] Kick.

[01:18:51] Kick.

[01:18:52] I am okay.

[01:18:54] Oh shoot some...

[01:18:57] I love how you're the one who's in a rush.

[01:18:59] Flares into the air.

[01:19:01] Pchoo.

[01:19:02] Pchoo.

[01:19:03] Pchoo.

[01:19:04] Pchoo.

[01:19:05] There we go.

[01:19:06] I don't know how much longer this is going for.

[01:19:09] Okay and now David's walking out of the studio.

[01:19:11] Kachoo.

[01:19:16] That was too realistic Ben.

[01:19:19] Kree.

[01:19:21] Meow.

[01:19:25] Oh there's a cat?

[01:19:27] Woof woof woof.

[01:19:29] Woof woof woof.

[01:19:30] Woof woof.

[01:19:35] Don't David don't say anything.

[01:19:37] Let this go.

[01:19:38] Go plonk go plonk go plonk, go plonk.

[01:19:41] Meow.

[01:19:42] My balling ball?

[01:19:43] Nmeowh.

[01:19:44] Nmeowh.

[01:19:52] Step up to the mic.

[01:19:55] Hello.

[01:19:57] Thank you all for waiting.

[01:19:59] Now that everything has been set up properly

[01:20:02] I'd like to announce that this is the end of the episode.

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