Ponyo on the Cliff with Shirley Li

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to express All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check Let's just write off the bat Oh, delicious!

[00:00:35] A lot of kids go like, you know what I mean? They realize something amazing is about to happen. Like they're gonna eat a sandwich. I thought maybe you would try the song. Oh no. Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo, Ponyo Can I get into spoilers right away, David?

[00:00:49] This is the most exciting. I've seen you about anything and so on. It's my favorite movie of all time. Can I get into spoilers right away? Ponyo loves ham. Oh my god. Let's get into some spoilers. Ponyo loves ham. Sosuke loves Ponyo. Ponyo loves Sosuke. Hell yeah.

[00:01:10] I love Sosuke's mom. Sosuke's mom, number one crush. Sorry forky. Yeah, you know what? Let's start with this. Lisa. I tweeted this and people, because I said I tweeted that I had a crush on the mom from Ponyo.

[00:01:23] And like half the people were like, oh you see her have a crush on like a, you know, 100 foot tall sea goddess. And I was like, no fucking the mom with the like t-shirt. No, that's me. Yeah. Right. You're like eat me woman. Eat me God woman.

[00:01:38] She's just like, yeah. Giant wet lady. Yeah. Exactly the biggest wet lady in the world. I'm just like, who's this bossy girl who can make ramen and drives like a maniac? She's a bossy round face. Yeah. She's a classic Simsie and bossy round face. What does she sing?

[00:01:58] She does that little bit where she's like, it's a happy day or I can't remember. What does someone tell me? I don't know. Thought you guys knew everything. I watched it this morning.

[00:02:08] I'm very excited about this episode because A, Ponyo clearly itself has you in a rare mood. But B, we have a guest on the show today who I would say is someone who undoes the clasp on the collar. On the leash. She unleashes the dog.

[00:02:24] There's certain guests who just the wall comes down and the dog is unleashed. And I think our guest today is one of them. You get David. David's in a rare mood whenever you come in. You appeal to my silliest side. Yes. We appeal to each other silly sides.

[00:02:40] Hello. Hi. Hello. Shirley Lee. Shirley Lee. What's up? The Atlantic. What? Spoilers. She does like him. I'm here. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Switched gigs. Switched gigs. Last time we had you. You did a little gig switch. Last time we had you on the podcast.

[00:03:02] You were just about to leave New York City for good. I was just about to switch cities. To go work for you. It's a great joke. I've never heard it before. Thank you. And now still living in LA but now working for the LA satellite of the Atlantic.

[00:03:18] So you are technically a big fan of the Atlantic. So you are technically co-workers with David. That's right. And you were just back here for a couple of days. We on Slack together. Tragic. Yeah, we're back on Slack together. Slack is back. Slack is back.

[00:03:33] Were you not on a Slack in the time that you weren't working? There were a couple failed Slack's. Yeah. None ever took a full. We tried a friend Slack. Yeah, sort of like. But it was hard. Hover employees friend Slack.

[00:03:45] Yeah, it's hard to keep that afloat, you know. Do you know what's the greatest Slack failure of all time? Please tell me. The movie podcaster Slack. That was a failure. That I think Joe Robinson, the great Joe Robinson put together and the plan was we said a year

[00:03:59] ago we were going to do. Like a big end game podcast? We were going to do an end game podcast with 32 different movie podcasts. The joke being a lot of people in that end game. Right.

[00:04:09] And so we were all joking about it and then Joe was like, we should actually do this. And in April of 2018 she was like, if we're going to do this, we have to plan it out a year in advance.

[00:04:18] And so we were like, we'll get back to this in nine months. Right. And then it never happened. That runway was longer than the one in Fast and Furious 6. Oh! Endless runway. It's a long runway. Yeah. But that Slack had like 37 people in it. It did.

[00:04:33] And a grand total of four messages ever. It was like a bunch of people joining being like, hi. And then that was some total of their contribution. So was everyone just DMing each other? No, I think it just never. No activity at all. A Slack?

[00:04:44] That was the end of the dialogue. Yeah. Needs to take hold somehow. I don't know how, but there is like any time I've done one that works, it's some weird... That's the only Slack I've ever been part of. Yeah, I got a terrible success rate on Slack.

[00:04:56] Should we start up buying Jack's Lark? I don't know. I feel like I want less places where I can message you. Yeah, I was going to say... So I have a greater chance of hitting. Yeah, I don't like responding to things. Exactly.

[00:05:06] I feel like it's always seemed very antithetical to Griffin. Definitely. That's the core of my being. Right. No, it was like, we were all tweeting at each other about like this would be fun. And then there was some DM sliding and then Joe was like,

[00:05:17] we need to start one Slack to organize. And the Slack started and four people said hi and then the conversation ended. And it was never talked about ever again. No one sent a single GIF. No. GIF. No, I'm going with GIF. Oh, jeez.

[00:05:33] I used to be a GIF girl. It's GIF. Yeah, because you could then say, oh my God. You could say, you know, the GIF that keeps on giving. Hollywood GIF over here. Yeah, GIF that keeps on giving is fun. But I like saying it now. GIF.

[00:05:45] You say the GIF. GIF is like, I feel like I'm yelling at someone. GIF. GIF me. Yeah, like give me this. I don't want to give you anything. GIF is peanut butter. Bad peanut butter. Ooh. Not that good. What's your favorite peanut butter?

[00:05:57] Of this sort of like supermarket like. Yeah. Skipping. Oh yeah. I'm a skipper. Yeah, that's a good. And then I have this nostalgia for- Smidz crunchy. Bumps like GIF though. Crunchy. Crunchy. I am crunchy, but sometimes I'll swerve into smooth. You know, fancy. Swerving into smooth.

[00:06:14] Yeah, just a different. You could be a smooth operator or a crunchy boy. I have a nostalgia for Peter Pan, which was the one we had in the house when I was a kid. But I think Peter Pan may have gone off the rails a little bit.

[00:06:26] Like it seems like a bit of a junkie option. Here's the thing. I always- Peanut Pan peanut butter? Yeah, peanut pan peanut butter. That's a lot to say. Oh God. I always liked it, but I think now I view it as, oh is that the budget peanut butter?

[00:06:39] Yeah, it's even below GIF on the sort of right. I think so. Like supermarket scale for some reason. Right. I think is Peter Pan the hunt's catch up of the peanut butter world? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[00:06:51] And also I'm such a peanut butter fiend that I always have like a supermarket, you know, a peanut butter and like a fancy, you know, stir peanut butter. That's all, you know, in case, you know, because I might want one of the others.

[00:07:05] I didn't know you were eating peanut butter this much. It is. I've never had peanut butter before. I love it. It's other butters, cashew butter, almond butter. I've flirted, but I've never- Never taken them out. I've been getting into smoothies and juices. Right.

[00:07:18] Well, people can be a good base for those. Yeah. How'd that happen? I'm so unhealthy, Shirley. I got to start eating breakfast. So I drank my breakfast. Want a cold waffle fry? Yeah, great breakfast. It's a 3 p.m. cold waffle fry. For a bunny. And Ben accepted it.

[00:07:32] Very quickly. He did. He accepted it. Right. Almost. I barely had time to move my hands towards him. I've been so unhealthy. Oh, cold waffle fry. Quick question. It was like Ponyo jumping out of the bowl for that waffle fry. Hey. When Ponyo grabs that ham, hello.

[00:07:48] That's so good. Griffin, you keep saying Ponyo. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. Ponyo? See, I'm getting some flak for saying Jif. Well, yeah. I want to toss it back on Ponyo. You're making a choice. I'm just wrong. Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:07:59] I allow myself to be correct. It's Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Yeah, yeah. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Think of that song, Pond the River on the... No, wait. No, don't worry. There's been a thing recently in the reddit where people have been saying I was disappointed

[00:08:16] by the lack of Ben in this episode. I think maybe he was just really hungover and every time someone has guessed that I've gone, yeah, no, that was correct. No one's ever jumped to that conclusion incorrectly. Exactly. Ben's very awake today. Ben didn't pipe in very much.

[00:08:31] I wonder if he was barely awake. Right. Sometimes Ben takes it off. And also, it's the energy. It's the energy. Yeah, yeah, sometimes I think... Sometimes it's an academic kind of conversation. I was about to say, I can't, you know, me... You're a poet. I'm a poet, yeah.

[00:08:47] Part of that. Part of that. Time break for some of the... Ben, Ben Deuzer, you were Ben. Surely came up with one right before we started recording. Oh, yeah. Do you want to say that? Should I say it? I feel like I should explain it first. That's fine.

[00:09:03] I was just a little bit over and started fiddling with my mic and tinkered with it. So as he walked away, I said, tinker Ben. Tinky, tinky, tinky, tinky, tinky. You paused it. Introduce the podcast. Look at Ben's spreading. It's called Blank Check. It's about filmographies.

[00:09:23] Directors have early success, massive success early on in their career, given a series of blank checks like whatever case you're passing projects they want. And sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce. Baby. Yes. Oh, well done. He's graduated to certain titles over the course of different miniseries

[00:09:36] such as Kylo Benprouser, Ben Kenobi, Ben Nyechomlon, Ben Sate. Wow! Ailey Ben's with a dollar sign. Ben 19, the fennel maker. Say BennyThing.Dot.Dot. I know I'm getting these out of order. Mr. Ben Credible, E-Drink Ben Hosley, Beetle Vape Juice. Yeah.

[00:09:52] What the fuck is the, you know, Mechal Man one? Oh, fuck. Oh. At this point, we're recording this as almost the end of this miniseries, but... We just wrap Man basically. We just wrap Man basically. We're jumping ahead in the filmography because Shirley's in town.

[00:10:10] Hey, screw things up for you guys. What's the Michael Man name? What's the Michael Man name? Oh, uh, I feel like someone was proposing some dollar-high Ben... Dollar-haz. I don't fucking know. Michael Ben. Oh! Wow, I nailed it. Wow. Public Ben-a-Mace. That's all right. Dan D'Adriot, Variety TV.

[00:10:41] What about Hosley? Yeah, that should be your nickname. Hosley? What are you talking about? Like, Ollie. You're just saying your name. With an I though. It's just spelled differently? Yeah, it would be easier to remember. I wish you were hungover. What did Dan D'Adriot say?

[00:11:01] Sometimes he suggests a name... He's a great suggestor. That's what I call him, the great suggestor. And so I'm just searching back through my DMs to see if he had a man suggestion. But I'm not sure that he did. I'm just wondering where is it?

[00:11:22] We can keep talking. I mean, Benny Bumpo would be good if he hadn't changed the name to Hawkeye, you know? Right. Yes, that would be good. There would be no problems with that. Benny Bumpo? No, exactly. No one would have an objection. No. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Pon-ya! Pon-ya!

[00:11:39] The fucking Pon-ya! This score slaps. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Okay, so full disclosure. Because Shirley is an Ellie resident and we're... So we're doing this a little out of order. Sorry. I feel like Griffin, as he is being exposed to Miyazaki.

[00:11:58] Discovering these ones for the first time. This is a big jump ahead. We're skipping a bunch of them in the middle. I haven't seen both of them. The only ones you've seen so far are Kekebiosho, which doesn't have a Hisashi score at all.

[00:12:05] And then Castle of the Sky, which has a beautiful score but it's very electronic. It's kind of spare and strange. And then watch Nostica now because we thought we were going to record it earlier. Okay. Yeah. And so that's all cool. But this is right.

[00:12:17] This is now where he's at the height of his hour. I was kind of surprised by how epic this score was. It feels like Lawrence of Arabia. Kind of the magic of this movie where you're like,

[00:12:28] I know this is just like a little fairy tale about a boy and his friend, but it's just kind of like a humongous epic at the same time. There's a tsunami here. Even though it only has like three locations,

[00:12:38] then they're all like a 10 minute drive from each other. Look, this is the thing. I rewatched all of the Toy Story movies recently. At the time we're recording this, it will have been several months before the episode comes out

[00:12:48] that also probably will apply for the week that this episode comes out. I assume I will have also rewatched all the Toy Story movies again. Toy Story one has four locations. Right. It is crazy. Bonnie's room. Toy Story one. Bonnie's not born. Andi's house? No.

[00:13:06] Andi's house, Sid's house, the gas station, pizza planet. Right. And the only other place they go. Sid's house and Sid's house are next to each other. Most of them only takes place in one block.

[00:13:16] And the only other thing you see is the street for the final moving chase. And that's sort of them just repeating the same road and houses over and over again. But it is crazy that like much like this, they make a film that feels,

[00:13:30] that is geographically taking place in a very confined amount of space. And yet the scope is so large. Or I mean, it's kind of like a child's perspective when you think about it, right? That's the thing I think both of those movies do really well.

[00:13:40] Those are small toys. These are small people. These are small... These are tiny fish girls. But as I'm saying really, a toy store does trust me out. They're so little. They're very small. Anytime they get like stranded somewhere, I'm like, they're so far to walk. You're so huge.

[00:13:54] Me, I'm huge. A large man. I am a large man. Four does that too though. Like four mostly takes place in a town square. That's what I was going to say. Right. I mean it's almost a practical necessity. Right, which I love.

[00:14:06] It would just be crazy if they were traveling any further than right from across the street. Right because even for most of the movie, the RV is parked around the corner from the antique shop, which is both are surrounding the carnival. And that's like the whole movie.

[00:14:20] So much that writing must just be like, right, how do we have a new reason for the RV not to have left yet? Right, we have to keep coming up with narrative stalls. But also that thing of how do you not make this...

[00:14:30] How do you avoid this feeling claustrophobic by making the difference between this corner of the antique shop and this corner of the antique shop very different. And the obstacles between them. Good movie. Yes, so great film American classic. Ponyo... Let me see the ring.

[00:14:47] Forky put a ring on it. We all know at this point that Forky put a ring on it. Forky put a ring on it. This episode is coming out in like October guys. Okay, it's a good run and gag. Keep going. How's your life with Forky so far?

[00:15:03] Great. We're kicking ass together. What utensils do you think Forky uses? Like to eat? Yeah. Does Forky eat? They don't eat. Oh my god. That's the magic of the toys. They're these immortal beings who require no sustenance. I'm angry because you're correct.

[00:15:18] That's why I like Toy Story 4 where it's like someone sort of barging in like, these are immortal beings. Yes. Like they're like mole rats. Like there's always no one kills them. Yeah. They're inevitable. But they never end. It's incredibly hard to kill.

[00:15:32] Because like you feel like the incinerator at the end of three. That seems like that would do them in. That would do them in. Right. But like Mr. Potato can pull off different parts of his body and his consciousness transfers to whatever the parts are on.

[00:15:42] Like their eyes and their arms can function independently, right? Insane superpower. Right. Then all these other characters like if their arm gets pulled off or ripped off they can just reattach it and they gain full function. Right. But then you also have like Sid's mutant toys.

[00:15:56] I love that I'm making this into a Toy Story episode. I have a couple questions to ask you and then we'll get to finding them. But Sid's mutant toys when he's like scrapping to get a piece from all these different toys, they still retain their own consciousness.

[00:16:06] There's a new consciousness presumably formed by the combination of these separate parts. I feel like this is how the pitch process went for Soul. Yeah. Yeah, this is where that came from. Pixar Soul. Yes. A movie about... About Pixar Soul. Yes. About Pixar Soul. One. Woody. Okay.

[00:16:24] Good guy. Hell of a guy. Cowboy. Sheriff. The whole series of movies are about his life with Andy and how a delicate it is and then he gets passed on to Bonnie and that's a little more rocky, right? Well he thinks it's a deal,

[00:16:39] but there are a lot of challenges throughout that. I mean, that's the beautiful thing about Woody is he's like, I just want to get back to this thing that makes me very happy. Right. And he's always stressed out. He's always stressed out. And makes him feel powerful.

[00:16:50] I mean, wasn't that a problem in Story Story 1 where like the initial sort of cut of the movie people are like, this guy is kind of insane. Like they needed to sort of soften him a little bit. But he still is incredibly harsh

[00:17:00] for a lead character in the show. But... It's established in these movies that he's a hand-me-down from Andy's dad probably like as sort of the thought... They say he's an old family. They say he's an old family toy.

[00:17:13] Obviously, the second movie is like he's from this old TV show, this old like sort of, you know, raw hide style. He's been around since the 50s. Right. Jesse remembers her owner from the 50s. Prospector remembers not being purchased in the 50s.

[00:17:25] Woody never talks about whatever happened with him. Why doesn't Woody talk about his life pre-Andy? Well, it sounds like that's maybe the only thing they could make a five about. That's a very good question. Interesting, because I got in... I didn't get into big fight,

[00:17:37] but I witnessed Emily getting in a screaming argument, not a screaming argument, an amusing fight over whether Tom Hanks sounds older now. And I kind of think he does when you watch those first ones. The one who I think sounds older is Tim Allen. Yeah.

[00:17:52] Tim Allen sounds a lot older, because the first one is like, I'm Buzz Lightyear. And this one is like, hey, I'm Buzz Lightyear. He's like very like... I can't talk Buzz Lightyear. Yeah. He's a child. Yeah.

[00:18:05] Just weird, because like when you think about the arc of the movies and like he's given away from Andy and like that's such a... Where it's like, he never talks about like how he definitely went through that before. I kind of was hoping...

[00:18:15] If he was within the family, it's a little different obviously than being given to a totally new person, but still. I was hoping they were going to touch it in four. Maybe in somewhat. They were going to touch it. Touch it. Touch it. Boom. Boom. Boom. Bam.

[00:18:30] Ponyo loves ham. Ponyo loves ham. Loves ham. Ponyo ate all the ham in the sandwiches. Oh no, that's what I was going to say. Here's the bridge I'm going to build back to Ponyo. So I hadn't seen this movie. You know, Miyazaki Nia Fight.

[00:18:49] But I was trying to remember what my understanding of the film was when it came out. Okay. And it was... It felt like they were sort of going like, this is like a little one. This is like very much a kids movie.

[00:19:02] This is like a much smaller story in scale. I thought I was wrong about this, but I thought he had taken over this movie from someone else. Is there one of the Ghibli films that he directed that was originally supposed to be directed by someone else?

[00:19:15] And then he was like, fuck it, I'll do it. Or am I totally creating that? I'm not sure. I remember one of them being announced because of the fact that he kept on announcing retirements and not sticking to them. Right. I remember one of them being like,

[00:19:31] I wasn't going to direct it, but now we had developed it and then I ended up directing it. Googling? But the notion was definitely that this was like, this was like a smaller one in between. It's House Moving Castle. That's what I thought it was now.

[00:19:47] Hosada was supposed to make that. And he... What Ghibli did not like is take on the movie and they shelled it. And then Miyazaki was like, you know, hang on here. There's something of salvage. I'm pulling something off the shelf here. Ponyo, I believe, was...

[00:20:06] Well, you know what? David's flexing. He's getting ready. Look at the internet, can't I? Was them being like, let's do a no CGI movie again. Let's have fun hand-drawing. They're putting down their CGI department. When he said he was retiring,

[00:20:28] he didn't mean he wasn't going to make more movies. I think he just said he was retiring the way he would make them. Interesting. I think that's what... Anyway, I remember there was just like, there was a lot of hoopla around him retiring

[00:20:41] and then his fans were like, hang on, what he actually said was he just doesn't want to make movies this way again. I can't remember the exact quote. Because I remember... Looking at David in his laptop. I remember certainly after Hal was moving castle, he might be done.

[00:20:57] He might be over. And then this movie felt like a surprise of like, oh, he's doing this one and it doesn't have the same sense of importance that the last couple have had. Yes. And this one never felt like it was going to be the last one. No.

[00:21:12] He loved this movie so much that he wanted to make Ponyo too next. Right, right. Which is wild and I wish he had. It's crazy this movie is 10 years ago, too. I just... That's a passage of time. No, I took... I think it was Toshio Suzuki, the producer,

[00:21:28] the G-Blee producer guy who was like, what about this incredible swan song project that you could do about your father's job and families pushing their sons away and over commitment to work? Japan! About fucking Japan! The war and everything after.

[00:21:49] Ponyo comes in the middle of this run of him making increasingly loftier and loftier movies. Yes, big epics, like big insane epics and very spiritual sort of right. And then he was like, no, I'll just do my little mermaid and it'll be like full.

[00:22:07] It's so weird that he's like, yeah, this is what I think of the little mermaid. Interesting, different take! Imagine if fucking King Triton had a crazy stripy shirt and a little watering can. It was a little wizard. I have to say, I'm watching these movies

[00:22:20] like in the original subtitled versions. Yes. You know, because I feel like you got up, right? Filmmakers and 10s, all of that. I watch this in the subs, yes. But very hard... You talk about it. Very hard every time that character came on screen

[00:22:33] not to switch over audio tracks so I could hear Liam Neeson's... Neeson is great! All right, what do you think of the dub? You wanted to say something. No, I was going to say I've actually never watched it with the subtitles on. Does that make me like...

[00:22:44] You're a bad person. Theatrically, were any of these released with subtitles or did you have to say them dubbed? No, I remember this was dubbed. I took my little sister to go see it 10 years ago. Hell yeah! 2009. Your sister's about to graduate. She's graduating high school this week.

[00:23:02] That's why I'm in town. Like eight years old at the time. She was seven, yeah. And then I had just graduated high school. That's a wonderful word! I had just... Not just, I was at college. Yeah, but I remember we watched... Yeah, there were no subtitles.

[00:23:18] It was just the Disney version. I was just figured it away in theaters with subtitles and it was like an opt. It was a limited though. Deleting it like some will be subtitled, some will be dubbed. So I've seen those options available

[00:23:29] but Ponyo definitely is a kids movie. Obviously kids are going to struggle with a subtitled movie. Is this also his... I feel like the dub is wider. Highest grossing domestically? You mean in Japan? No, in the States. Oh, in the States! This is his biggest American release.

[00:23:44] I remember this overperforming. I think you're right. Yes, you're right. You're right. It made $15 million to Spirit of the Ways 12. Which is domestically... It was kind of crazy. Like it came out in August and it got the same sort of Disney release that usually doesn't work

[00:23:58] and this one did pretty well. It did pretty well. It's pretty fucking accessible. It made $164 million in Japan. Yeah. I mean that's just crazy. I think that he's unretired again. Has he talked about going back to the Ponyo well as it were? Ponyo well.

[00:24:15] I don't think he's someone just a ruminate on like, yeah, who knows? Like I don't know. He seems very one project. I just love that he was like, God, I make a sequel. Yeah, no, I think... A Hamier sequel. A Hamier sequel. Ponyo 2, the Secret of Curly's Ham.

[00:24:29] I don't know. Ponyo. What about Ponyo? Oh, I saw it in theaters. Delighted, loved it. But then I have seen the dub many times because he used to be on cable all the time. Okay. And so it's the only one where I'm very familiar with the dub.

[00:24:45] So I will say Nisen crushes it, does a great job. Absolutely crushes it. I have to find Ponyo. But also Tina Fey crushes it as Lisa. That's part of the appeal. Now go on. Lisa, my wife, Lisa. The writing is also fairly different

[00:25:00] because when I was switching back and forth between the two I would put on the American dub but with the Japanese subtitles. Exactly. Japanese English subtitles, right? Right. And they do definitely change the language a bunch. Yeah, that's why I'm always...

[00:25:14] The intent is the same in every scene. It's why I'm always most in favor of the sub because it's the original version because it's the original version. That's usually what I do when I watch anime. But Ponyo is a little kid's movie

[00:25:25] and so I've always been much more forgiving of its dub. That's all. Ponyo is also a little kid. You got Noah Cyrus and you have Frankie Jonas also known as the bonus Jonas. Are you familiar with this phenomenon? Are you looking at me? Yes. I am vaguely familiar.

[00:25:41] These are the four Jonas, right? We're blown up for the first time. Another thing that now for the first time... I'm sorry, that would be burning up. Thank you. I'm sorry, when they were burning up. Burning up. Yeah, Frankie Cyrus, the bonus Jonas.

[00:25:51] That's the other thing that makes me feel like, wow, time has passed. That now the Jonas brothers are having this comeback and it's supposed to be a big deal. They're first album together in seven years. It is a big deal. And I'm like, enough time has elapsed.

[00:26:04] It's like there's nostalgia for the Jonas brothers. That they rose, they peaked. They disappeared. They started to fall. They broke up. They had separate careers. Nick Jonas gave the greatest performance in modern American cinema and Jumanji, Welcome to the Jungle. And then now they're back together

[00:26:20] and people are emotional about it. Did you like the Jonases? You did. I liked them. Because you were in high school for the Jonas brothers, right? Yes, I was. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, no, I liked them great. You liked them great? I can't talk.

[00:26:37] You liked them very great. I'm trying to hedge it a little bit because I didn't go to their concerts or anything like that. They weren't here. Yeah, I wasn't wearing shirts. What do you call a Jonas head? A Jonas head. No, what seriously? I'm actually not sure.

[00:26:50] I was in part of that army. I always thought that was so funny. I was like, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I was in that army. I always thought that was so funny that they were like,

[00:27:02] here are the three brothers in a band and there's a bonus Jonas. And it was just their little brother who they would bring out on stage and he would dance for a moment. Maybe there's your bonus Jonas. A little Easter egg. A little cameo. Yeah. Jonatics. Jonatics.

[00:27:17] Oh, no thank you. That sounds more like for Joan Rivers fans. In that case, I'm a genetic. Yeah, I'm a genetic. I think the original idea is Miyazaki's like the little mermaid. But then whatever he's writing is obviously almost immediately disappearing.

[00:27:37] Right, because he wasn't trying to base the story on the little mermaid. He was just inspired by it. Inspired by it. But there is, you know, she is going to turn into C-Foam. Yeah, well, I think he just really wanted to draw the ocean.

[00:27:46] That was the thing, right? He's really just like, what about if we could fucking hand draw the ocean and put all these computers to shame? That's what he did. Mr. Miyazaki sat down when I want to fucking draw the ocean. Exactly. He wanted to cook some computers.

[00:27:57] That's what this movie is. Exactly. Miyazaki cooking computers. And he preferred to draw the sea in the waves himself, just by himself. It tells you a lot about the guy. Just sitting there. Yeah. 170,000 separate images in this film. A return. 170,000. Yeah. Yeah. And Ponyo is Miyazaki's idea

[00:28:20] of the noise of a soft squishy thing. Right, it's not a monopier. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo? Ponyo? Ponyo? And the thing about him is like that's, I mean, I'm sure you guys are going to talk about this on all the other, oh my God, the time of this is...

[00:28:35] Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, the fact that he does like to hand draw everything himself and he does like to, you know, he's really meticulous about it and a lot of other Japanese animators don't do that, right? Like Mama Oshii didn't do that. Most directors don't do that. Right, yeah.

[00:28:48] And Tama Hada didn't know how to draw. Exactly. Yeah. So for him to sit down and be like, let's do 170,000 this. Yeah. David is my name, draw? David is like, I think Takahata just like how to draw. David's drawing is more like scratching. Draw faster. Yeah.

[00:29:02] Here is the town that he based it on. The real town, a real seaside village he visited. Tama Nura. Mm-hmm. What's also to Shirley's point? Shut up, Shirley. That was fine. It was good. Yeah, Shirley's show. I know.

[00:29:18] But to Shirley's point, a thing I talk about a lot that no one else seems as interested in as I am, this increasing trend of American animated films being a fucking scroll like shit on the scroll.

[00:29:30] Here are the things I talk about that no one seems to do. The ear just got golden. It's all just crashing here. The scroll keeps like bouncing off the walls. Oh my God, Ben's disappeared. Can you drown in a scroll? I am. Ham. Okay. I am.

[00:29:52] Five comedy points, Shirley. Thanks. This thing where American animated films are increasingly being directed or co-directed by people who have literally zero animation experience. Where it's not only like people who like came up in animation but don't really draw themselves or don't really animate themselves,

[00:30:09] but people who just are like, I'm Rodney Rothman. Right. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like now American animation studios want to cut the animation in sticks and they're like, we don't want to be like too animated. So bring in some live action comedy writer. Right.

[00:30:25] And have them co-direct the movie to just give notes without any understanding of the technical aspects of the thing. It seems weird and counterintuitive. It's weird. That he would just say to an animator, make this happen and then they would have to be like,

[00:30:38] oh well that's going to be hard to do because of X, Y, and Z. Right. So they always have a co-director who's like the animation. Right, right. But it is like DreamWorks Illumination. All these studios are doing that more and more and more

[00:30:50] where it's like here's like Scott Mosier, Kevin Smith's old buddy co-directing The Grinch. He co-directed The Grinch. Yeah, and you're like, what's the chain that leads to that happening? I don't know, maybe we had a great Grinch pitch. Maybe. The Grinch. The pitch was,

[00:31:05] what if The Grinch sounds like Griffin Newman? Grinch in a pinch. Does he sound like Griffin Newman? Yeah, played by Bandeckin or Batch sounds like me. He's like, I hate Christmas. And I'm like, why did you hire Bandeck cover back? Who can be like, I hate Christmas.

[00:31:18] I am the Grinch. Right. And so he's like, I don't know, I hate Christmas. Whatever. He sounds so much like me in that trailer. It's bizarre. But you haven't seen the film. No, I haven't seen the film. That's just wondering.

[00:31:31] It might freak me out hearing the sound of my own voice that much. So you don't listen to this podcast? He doesn't. Not usually, I don't think. I listen sometimes. I listen sometimes. I'm not an avid listener.

[00:31:44] David listens to every episode and subscribes to our Patreon and pays us money. Griffin thinks this is funny. A cut of that money goes to Patreon. Yeah. Yeah. Doing us a fine service. Delighted in the... He listens all the time. I love it.

[00:32:00] That's why he always says, it's the only thing he listens to. He's given up music. It's a great podcast. He's quit it. That's his answer. It's a great podcast. I love listening to it.

[00:32:09] The other thing is also we record episodes so many months in advance that sometimes I literally am like, oh, I don't remember anything that we said on that podcast. Not one thing. Yeah.

[00:32:19] And then I'll hear a bit and I'll be like, oh, I should have driven that into the ground. Like I should have remembered to do that multiple weeks. I will often be... I'm sure you do this too where you're listening and someone says something and

[00:32:27] you're like, well, what I would say at this point is this and you say it like three months ago. I forget what it was, but there was some bridge we established at one point between Star Wars and the Cars franchise.

[00:32:38] And I said, wow, Mater instead of wow, Vader. And it has been driving me crazy for him. You had to go on like a two week seclusion. I was like, that's the one time I would be able to go, wow, Vader. And I didn't do it.

[00:32:51] You did it now. Yeah. I didn't know. We didn't place it in. Yeah. Someone cut it back into whatever episode that was. Please. Ben. Yes, sir. How you doing? Ben's on his phone. Just texting. Oh, I'm just doing worse stuff. I'm doing great.

[00:33:05] I love this movie so much. With some H2O. It's a soggy. I love wet movies. It's a soggy. It's a soggy. It's all, it's all, it's all up on you and then it's just fucking water, water, water. It's a soggy, feel me? That's so funny. Yeah.

[00:33:21] War of comedy points. Yeah. Thank you. 10 comedy points. But in all seriousness, I will say this about the portrayal of the ocean life and the idea that is, you know, it's a kid's movie, but they're really trying to sell the viewer on

[00:33:37] Pollution's Bad and we have to treat the ocean with respect. That really got me. And I really think that that's a great moral and lesson in the movie. I agree with that. Also this movie has a good bra. It does. You gotta have a good bra.

[00:33:52] They, they spend a lot of time on food and preparation. Yeah. I mean that took me a whole mark. But yeah, for sure. David looks so self satisfied. It's the process. Good bra. And then the whole time he wasn't even listening to Ben.

[00:34:04] He was just like, I want to talk about the ocean. I'm like bra. Bra. No, no, I mean, I think, you know, that he begins the movie when you get into the start of it with that just like pristine.

[00:34:15] He begins the movie as films do with a beginning. Yeah. Yeah. He starts, you know, the print, like it's like this beautiful magical kingdom. It's so like serene and wonderful. Right. And it's just Ponyo riding a little jellyfish. And the colors are fucking insane.

[00:34:31] You know, I'm not gonna talk about Fujimoto, right? Her, her wizard father. And the ship because I think the ship's design is actually one of the like it's somewhere like in this film that like takes place in what did you say?

[00:34:43] Like it's just like you can drive everywhere in 10 minutes. Yeah. Like there's only a little bit of. Right there on top of the hill or not. You can only throw in so many fantastical elements that like he really loves doing.

[00:34:54] So he put a lot of effort into designing that ship and I love it. Yeah. The ship is so overflowing with craziness. It's so crazy Fujimoto. Well, that was like Miyazaki's whole idea that it's like the villain quote unquote of the film is a father who kind

[00:35:07] of drives his son away by caring too much. His daughter away. Sorry. Yes. But that it was like the fact that like the villain is like we have to save the planet. Right. Like he's like fighting for the right thing.

[00:35:19] And he's doing everything based out of the fact that he loves Ponyo. Yeah. And he also knows like if Ponyo, you know, eats human food and all that could turn into seafood. Right. And he's so overbearing in a way that ends up hurting

[00:35:30] the causes he's trying to fight for. Right. That I haven't been said man can wear the fuck out of a jacket. Those stripes are looking good on a boy. He does. Some have an incredible wardrobe. Imagine Liam Neeson styled like this in real life. I don't want to.

[00:35:47] Come on. Shirley. Imagine. Shirley. Imagine Liam Neeson. All right. Imagine. I don't want to go any further with that. I think Liam Neeson jokes are really, it's a good time to make Liam Neeson jokes. Do you think by October people have just forgotten

[00:36:03] about that and we can remind them now? No, I feel like maybe there will be another headline. No, no. They will have forgotten because of course America has high tea fever. America cannot stop talking about high tea. Liam Neeson's incredible breakout character from Men in Black International.

[00:36:18] They fucking love him. A very funny joke implying that he has high testosterone. Oh, I know. I took it as high tea like the British tea service. Oh, really? I thought it was high tea like testosterone. No, it's just like tea service. What's that? Why would you know?

[00:36:32] No, I'm just asking. I'm not doing the bit. What's high tea? It's like this thing that I feel like mostly, you know, a tourist visiting Britain likes to do. Okay. So a thing you've done once you're done. Which is like, you know, the very fancy tea service

[00:36:46] with all of the cutlery, you know, and then like the little tower of sandwiches, little crust cutoff sandwiches. See, I thought it was a high tea. I thought it was high tea. Who's a testosterone? He's like, my bowls are so big.

[00:36:59] Yeah, that was a joke about Liam Neeson. I'm a killer hog. That's what I'm saying. He's got a big boy. Him and Uncle Milti. Yeah. Him and Uncle Milti. Yeah. Did you see Men in Black International? Nope. I haven't either. I just read the Wikipedia page.

[00:37:14] I saw his character. I mean, it's October now. So I could say I looked at the cast list and predicted the twist. I just had to look at IMDB. Yeah. I just looked at the cast list and I was like... Here's the twist, they're aliens. Oh my God.

[00:37:30] That's very twisty. Aliens. What? They exist. Actually, that's her. Yeah. No, David looked at the cast list and I was like, Rafe Spalls in this? He's going to be the red herring villain and Liam Neeson will be the villain. Just because like casting Rafe Spalls,

[00:37:46] it's either like you're just lazy and you want an English villain or you like think you're being real clever and you're like, yeah, we'll cast this guy who reeks of English villain. Then it'll turn out he's just annoying. Reeks of English villain. I like that.

[00:37:58] It's like a terrible perfume. Right, exactly. Here's the other thing I dislike about the high teeth thing. They've never had modifiers like that. It's always been the letter. Which is why I fucking hate it. Yeah, I hate high teeth. I hate high teeth.

[00:38:10] But here's the other thing I hate. My least favorite character ever. We hate high teeth. I hate men in black is an American concept. Of course. No one in Britain is like, here come the men in black, like the famed like G-Men. That's a totally American thing.

[00:38:23] That's why they called it international. Fuck you're right. You know what? Sorry, I'm going to write a check to F. Gary Gray right now. Who apparently didn't have final cut. And apparently tried to quit the movie several times during production. Yeah. I feel bad for him. Yeah.

[00:38:37] What's he going to do except have millions of dollars? No, I do feel bad for him too because his name is on that piece of shit. Next time ask me, I'll do it. I'll step in. It is one of those things. I don't care.

[00:38:49] Like I'll direct fucking men in black international. You feel like if the premise was we do men in black overseas, you should spend work to try to figure out what the foreign equivalent of the men in black archetype would be. And instead they're just like,

[00:39:03] they wear like black and white suits, sunglasses, have a secret base, deal with aliens. Right. It seems like their premise was high teeth. High teeth. You see? I mean, the thing that blows my mind about the like production

[00:39:18] article that was like the studio was torn on men in black international or a men in black 21 Jump Street spin off. Right. Like emerging of the universes. And I'm like, when you're torn on those two things, just settle down, go back, think of more things. Yeah.

[00:39:33] Those don't have to be the final two choices where you're like, we have to do one or the other. Also, yeah. That's it. Make your choice. Someone said like it's not a franchise killer. Like in talking at the box office of men in black international.

[00:39:45] I love the work coming out with the pipe and hot men in black international takes when one of the four of us has seen this movie. They came out five months ago. Right. But everything it represents, I find fascinating. No.

[00:39:55] But they were like, Sony's definitely going to have to put men in black on ice for a little while now and not rush into another reboot. And it's like, what? Or they just never make one again. Fucking easy. Don't do it. Men in black two is bad.

[00:40:07] Men in black three is bad. Men in black three is bad. Men in black three. And then people are like, well, men in black three is okay. And I'm like only compared to other men in black sequels. Is it okay?

[00:40:16] The second best man in black movie is men in black the animated series. 100%. Yeah. The third best men in black movies. I don't know. Like a fucking phone game probably, right? I don't know. Like what else is it? There's a ride at Universal. That's it. Number three.

[00:40:30] I love that. And Will Smith is in it. Yeah. Great. So that's good. Will Smith in it. Rip Torns in it. The fourth best men in black movie is him. Yes. In men in black two. Yeah, I just watched as a one minute scene.

[00:40:42] I said the men in black music videos are better than two, three or international. I would say the original men in black one is better, but not your head is a fucking great video. Not your head is. Not your head black suits coming? I remember that.

[00:40:55] Do you remember not your head black suits coming? You don't remember not your head black suits coming? No, I don't. This is the song from men in black two. I don't. My memory's been erased. Neuralized. Well, the song is sort of- Go on though. This is fun.

[00:41:06] Like America was neuralized about Linda Fiorantino. This is my conspiracy theory. It's a great song because it's a command and then it follows up with an explanation. Not your head. Wait a second, but let me just- I'll tell you why. Black suits coming.

[00:41:20] Makes absolutely no sense because when the men in black are coming, you don't nod your head like, I like that they're here. Yes. It just feels like that was the end of people being like,

[00:41:31] if Will Smith's in a movie, he needs to wrap a song over the credits. Hitch is the last one, I think. Does he do one for Hitch? I feel like Hitch has a song called Switch. Am I wrong about that? Well, Switch is a Will Smith song.

[00:41:42] I just didn't know it was attached to Hitch. I think it's only under credits, yeah. But then there was just some fucking- That was a missed opportunity for Hitch to hitch. It was just a focus group being like, all right, the doggy, the electric side,

[00:41:53] and someone's just like, what about nodding? No one's ever made a dance move out of just nodding your head. I hope there's an actor who just decides to start doing their SoundCloud rap for their movies. I think that's like, other actors should do that. Yeah, sure.

[00:42:10] Jonah Hill, I don't know. Bring it back. Yeah. Those are the credits for one song at a time. He swiped it for a Grand Torino. Grand Torino. He sang a song? Wait, do you not know that? No. He's like, Grand Torino. We're not joking.

[00:42:25] That's what the song is like. That is my car. Like, when you exit that movie and hear it, did someone start an air conditioner in another room? I mean, oh no, I guess Clint Eastwood is singing. What's that low rumble? Grand Torino.

[00:42:43] You know how the decimal meter, like, an airplane taking off is like a bye? Dogs are like howling. Clint Eastwood's singing is like one decibel. It should just be like Desperado. It should be like, Grand Torino. Why don't you come to your senses?

[00:43:01] I just, I guess I literally wanted to change that one word. Do you think Clint Eastwood should join the Eagles? I think Clint Eastwood should join the Eagles. I'm going to whip you into shape. One of my favorite things to do a karaoke is pick,

[00:43:12] nod your head, black suits coming. Refuse to look at the lyrics and just try to, within the rhythms of the song, describe what I remember the plot of Man Black 2D. So I do it like with the same enthusiasm. The plot is like Rosario Dawson's,

[00:43:30] the love interest, but it turns out she's like an alien artifact. She's like a star. Right. Laura Flynn Boyle is trying to get her. She's got plant arms and she used to date Tommy Lee Jones, which is why they have to denuralize him. So he can remember.

[00:43:47] But then they denuralize him and it's like I still don't remember, which has to happen because otherwise the movie would be over. They have the real denuralizer, which they can't get to work. So they have to go to Tony Shalhoub and he's got like a janky denuralizer.

[00:43:59] He's like, I might not work perfectly. And you know, I just can't get over the fact that in the first one, they almost suggest that Linda Fiorentino has sex with the corpses. Like it looks like there's like a 50-50 chance that that's what she's about to say.

[00:44:15] Because she says to Will Smith, like, you know what I like to do when no one's around. And then they get cut off. She's either saying like I have sex near the corpses or with the corpses. It's sexual. She's having sex with something.

[00:44:27] She's about to say reveal something. Right. And it never comes up again. And then there's that whole extended thing where they're yelling at each other where he's like, you know, you got a whole queen of the undead vibe and it's so funny. That movie is a fucking masterpiece.

[00:44:40] That's perfect. I haven't seen it in a really long time. God are you watching? You should not have your head. I could. Well, you know what a movie I saw recently? I just want to say Ben leaned into the mic and said,

[00:44:53] you want to know a movie that I saw recently? Not your head. While Vape was coming out, pouring out of his lips. Black Suits coming. Black Suits coming. Yeah. No. OK. So, Ponyo, you know what? Her real name's Brunhilde. Yes. It's a reference to Wagner. That's right.

[00:45:13] She lives in an underwater magical submarine with her dad, who is a sea wizard. Which is the best kind of wizard. Right. And her sisters, who are little planktons. I don't know how else to describe them. They're like mini ponies. Girl babies. Yeah. I love them. Right.

[00:45:29] They go mew, mew, mew, mew. They do. They fucking rule. I mean, I'm not. I mean, they are the best. They're like among the 10 best things in the world. She always gives one of them a little kiss. Yes. And whenever she does that, I feel that.

[00:45:40] I wish I had little copies of me floating around me. I love you. Immediately, it's like this movie just has, you know, something is moving in this movie all the fucking time. Like it's so energetic and like all the like just undulations

[00:45:55] and the, oh, it's I love it. I couldn't believe how crazy this opening was. Because the opening, there's a cold open. Yes. Right. And she gets on a jellyfish. She like floats up and then we have the like credit sequence.

[00:46:09] And it feels like you're watching like a laser light show or something. It's like so sparkly and colorful and fast. And like music is just like going insane. Yeah. I love Finding Nemo. It's one of my preferred Pixar movies. And it's so pretty and it's so colorful. Yeah.

[00:46:26] But it doesn't, you know, you lack that crazy motion. Right. You know, because the ocean is basically kind of clear in Finding Nemo. Yes. Right. Like it has that just that I keep doing this. No, it's always undulating. Yeah. Wobbly. Yes. Wobbly.

[00:46:40] And then she, you know, gets captured by a fishing trawler and it's like classic Miyazaki. Like, you know, hits you with the hook. She gets trapped into a little glass jar. Yeah. And she can't wriggle her way free. I just liked that that takes a while. Yeah.

[00:46:55] That you see her trying to escape, but you know, it's inevitable and all the garbage is around her. And I love that she moves like, like a little shark, like a little baby shark. Yeah. All right. But yeah.

[00:47:05] And then she, she can't get out of it and we're all doing this. Yeah. Yeah. And we're baby shark. Do you like, do you like this? Do I like baby shark? No. Well sure. It bop. About left shark. No, I don't care for left shark. Yeah.

[00:47:20] I like all of this. I am, I mean, I admit it was a little jarring for me to jump from Castle in the Sky to the Ponkan. I feel like I'm missing a lot of steps in with that.

[00:47:32] That's fair visual wise, but Ponio is kind of an odd one anyway. And Ponio is close to sibling is Totoro. Yes. Those are the two most like child's eyes. Simple, yeah. Stories that he's told. Well, like simple fable. Totoro is much simpler.

[00:47:46] Totoro is like insanely like, elementally simple. This has like some shit that needs explaining and there's like, oh no, she doesn't do that. You know what I mean? Like there's a little bit more like of a quest. Or there's more conflict. Yeah. Right. Right. Right.

[00:48:04] Totoro is pretty like. Totoro is just like, yay. And in like the last 20 minutes, it's like, oh no, she's run off. But I think, I mean, I love every minute of Ponio, but the first chunk where it's

[00:48:13] really just about like that feeling when you're a kid, when you find a special thing that's for you and you're. You love it so much. You have like an emotional relationship with the way that Bonnie loves Forky. Yes. Yes. I mean, fair. Absolutely.

[00:48:28] That's the idea of Forky, right? Can I ask, do you view Bonnie as competition at all? I just don't know any way I can enter that question without fully canceling myself. But the thing is, Bonnie is Forky's creator. Yeah. So you gotta.

[00:48:41] Bonnie loves Forky the way a parent loves a child. Like the way God loves all his children. Right. Just the answer. Right. David loves Forky on a more sexual period of period of love. That was so easy. There's just no sex with the toys.

[00:48:56] One of the things I loved about Toy Story 4 was that Woody and Buzz didn't, I mean not Woody and Buzz. That's another question. Woody and Bo didn't kiss because I was like, let's not get into that idea. You know what I mean?

[00:49:07] Like that they would find pleasure in touching. And you love kissing. Love kissing. Good kisses in this movie. Very good one. I should make it clear. When I say that David loves kissing, it's not that David loves kissing other people. David loves hearing that other people have kissed.

[00:49:21] True. I do love like to myself. Well okay. Come on. But I'm not going around, you know. Smooching. Let's kiss. No, you saved that for one special spork. But I do love, I love to hear that people have kissed. I got a big sputch.

[00:49:36] I almost always love to hear that people have kissed. Yeah. And I love a good kiss in a movie. Right. And I have horror bad kiss. We're very angry about Aladdin. That was a bad kiss? You didn't see Aladdin? I skipped the screening. Only world. It was bad.

[00:49:54] It's between carpet and a boo. Right. No, if you remember at the end of the holy world. Licking the tassels. In the cartoon in the animated version. There's that moment where the carpet kind of like kicks Aladdin up. So he'll kiss Jasmine.

[00:50:07] And they have like a pretty fucking hot kiss. And you're like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Like that. You're like fucking Arsenio-ing over here. Good thing he's losing his mind. No one makes you sillier than Shirley. It is like truly. It is true.

[00:50:25] I mean, Shirley and Ponyo is awesome. It didn't do anything. Yeah. Go on. What about the kiss? And then as they do almost everything in the live action, maybe kind of recreate the moment in the live action. And like they barely, I don't know, it's lame.

[00:50:39] And these are too hot. The irony is lifeless. Exactly. Thank you. Like, I mean, these two people have been watching them for an hour. And I'm like, I can't wait to see these two kisses. That was great. Love them. Love them kissing. Beautiful.

[00:50:53] I'm not going to kiss the movie, but I'll see him kiss. Kiss me like that's it. Yeah. Jesus. And then Will Smith falls in love with Nassim Pedrat. Weird movie. Do they kiss? Yeah. This is my summer where I decided to see nothing. No, that they kiss.

[00:51:08] They definitely hug. And they fuck, right? Because then they have a little baby. I mean, yeah, off screen, they have sexual. Do you see the baby? They don't do it on screen. They fuck on screen. But you're not so, but you're not so into hugs.

[00:51:23] Like with a hug, but I mean like, you know, kissing is pretty cool. And like over. I nodded. I gave a sort of. Do you like it was a very solemn nod? Do you like it a movie? Not your head is. Hey, thank you. Kiss, kiss boys coming.

[00:51:42] What do you like a sloppy kiss? Like what's like a lot of tongue and like, you know, when people are like gross kissing by purpose because they're so love if it's for real. I'm fine with it because then it's exactly the least surprising thing I've ever.

[00:51:59] Ben's a little sloppy. It's the saliva. Ben, I bet your goal is that zero tongue lands inside the mouth. I imagine you're just licking the outside of her cheeks. No, come on. Don't get mad at me. Surely this is what Ben does. All these images. Ponyo. Ponyo.

[00:52:22] Yeah, OK. So Ponyo is rescued by Sosuke, who is an adorable little boy in short pants. He is the bonus Jonas in the. And he lives on a cliff.

[00:52:35] He lives on a cliff by the sea with his mommy, his dad too, but he is on a boat for the whole movie. So that's what he's doing. He's a little boy. He has short pants. He calls his mommy by her first name, which is funny.

[00:52:50] In the original version too. Not sure why, although it's the subtitles. So I can't testify as to the word he's using in Japanese. Sure. But calls her Lisa in the subtitles. Not sure why. Weird one. What's up with that? I mean, he's mature for his age. Yes.

[00:53:06] Business like relationship. And he goes with Lisa to the senior home. He's very helpful. Very good. Well, boy, he's the man of the house. Movie talks about this. Calling parents by their first name when your kid is a great bit. I did it all the time.

[00:53:25] I still, I usually refer to my father by his full name. I call him Peter and him in most interactions. Pistol. Pistol. I'll call him Pistol. I called my dad Bobby baby. You call your dad Bobby baby. Bobby baby, Bobby honey, Bobby. What do you call your parents?

[00:53:44] I call them in mom and dad. It's very, it's really boring. And then in Chinese they're just home. Papa mama. That's it. Equivalent. Sure. Yeah. Nothing special. I do think it's interesting when you hit that age where you're like, what's yeah.

[00:53:59] How do I, when you're transitioning out of the baby ish mommy, daddy, whatever. Because I was very much a, I was a, I was a mommy papa guy and those don't age well. They don't age well. Mommy, Bobby. It is hard.

[00:54:12] And I wonder if the parents have to be involved like at identifying the moment where you're like, you know what? Yeah. No more. I'm not mommy. I'm cutting you off. It's over. I'm not mommy. I'm Lisa.

[00:54:23] You know, you have a sibling who's much younger than you, which means that probably the word was exact. So maybe that would mess things up more. I don't know. That did mess things up with. Because you have a much younger sibling too. Yeah. My sister. Yeah.

[00:54:36] I think that's, I think you're on something here. Yeah. Because I think that's why like you just kind of stick with the juvenile way of calling your parents. Although I don't know. I don't know. I still feel weird.

[00:54:47] Well, Sosuke calls his mommy Lisa and he is a classic Miyazaki protagonist in that he's practical. You just punched your mic. He kind of has a can do attitude, you know, but he's also pretty connected to nature and I think he's great. Yeah.

[00:55:04] Any of his future endeavors is if he wants to look me up, I'm happy to help him out. I think he's super fucking cool. Yeah. Like his pants. Would you vote for him in the Democratic primary? I think like, yes, of course. Yeah. Of course. 100%.

[00:55:19] He's the kind of like optimism, you know, future thinking that we need right now. Yeah. To start a podcast. Me and Sosuke? Yeah. Simms and Sosuke. Short cast. Sosuke loves Ponyo. Short cast, right. Finds little baby Ponyo in a bottle.

[00:55:35] Gets how to fix it, you know, cracks over the rock. But that's also means he's got a little drop of blood. He cuts his finger. Sosuke licks it. I mean, Ponyo licks it. Ponyo licks it. Yeah.

[00:55:46] And apparently that's sort of the moment that like seals her as like having one part of the human world. Yes. Right. I mean, that's the weird thing in this movie is it's like, oh, you think it's just

[00:55:55] to show that she is magical and that she can fix wounds, but it's also that that's the way she gets infected by the curse of humanity. Exactly. Right. She absorbs his blood and then turns into like a, yeah. To Fujimoto, it's like, I mean, it's real metal.

[00:56:09] You're saying it's like, fuck humanity's in her now. Yeah. What a disaster. Right. Hate those guys. Now she's got chicken arms and legs. Well, that takes her a while before she gets her chicken arms and legs. But you know, at first, what was I going to say?

[00:56:23] But is it bad? No. Like it's good. But definitely need that, you need that bond. Yeah. And he's delighted to have her around and he thinks she's a goldfish as everybody does in the beginning of the film. Right? Like, and I think like...

[00:56:36] I love that they call her a goldfish. Yeah. Just that classic kid thing though, you know, the little pocket. Yeah. Whereas he's guarding that with his life. Yeah. It's the most important thing in the world. There's this little, there's a park in Shanghai near my grandparents apartment.

[00:56:51] And when I was really little, I would always go and like, you can get, you can fish for goldfish. Yeah. And then you bring it home and it's that feeling of like, look at my new friend. Yes.

[00:57:01] And it's like, and you would, you don't want that fish to ever die. No. You give it a name. But when you get the fish in the bag from like a fair or whatever. Yeah. But those are my favorite and they would always die. Yeah, they always die.

[00:57:13] Which is so funny to think of because like, right, to the fish, we are a pretty shapeless blur that's like, oh, right? Like they have no idea who we are. Yeah. But you know what I... I won a goldfish when I was a child at a carnival.

[00:57:26] Oh, the snack that smells back. Yes. I had a package of peppered farm goldfish at a carnival. No, but I won a goldfish in like the plastic bagger talk you. I named it Carr.

[00:57:37] Because we were in a car when my parents asked me what I wanted to name it. So I said, this is Carr. How old were you at the time? I was like 24. This was in 2007. Yeah. Right after I got fired off Malayne. Carr! I named it Carr.

[00:58:00] And your parents weren't like... It wasn't like a men in black situation where they were like, go back to the drawing board. They were so worn down. Are you kidding me? Fine, it's fucking Carr. Who cares? They've been my parents for like six years.

[00:58:11] They were like, whatever your fucking thing is this week. I don't know. And I was like so attached to it and then... There's goldfish. The next day they were like, it looks weak. We don't have food, this and that.

[00:58:24] We drove and we put it back in the river. Well that's better than nothing. And I was incredibly sad. I cried about it for like days. Yeah, but you weren't a sensitive kid or anything like that. No, not at all. I never loved to fish again. Fair enough.

[00:58:38] I hurt too much. When you hear the word Carr, you flash back to your dad. I don't have a driver's license. I only had to fish once, same thing, and it died very fast. And it was one of those moments where we buried it upon the roof garden.

[00:58:53] It is a weird thing we put kids to death. Even if it's just a brief pet like that. You think about existence, yeah, really early. Yeah, in college one of my friends had a fish that she kept on her desk. It was not a very big fish.

[00:59:07] And she called it Alpen, which is a brand of like raisin bran in Britain. Where I fucking went to college and grew up because we never got to this. What? Oh, where? Why? 2005 ish we're talking right now.

[00:59:26] And she fucking loved it and she would always talk about how like when she was doing work, she could just look up and like there he was, right? Yeah. So I guess it's the point of a fish. Yeah.

[00:59:35] And then one day, one night she comes to my room, she's sobbing. Alpen has died. Oh boy. And so I like walk back to her room and I'm like, okay, here's the fish looks dead.

[00:59:45] And I had heard the trick that if you put alcohol on the fish, it can like get it back to life. What? Yeah. And so I was like, all right, I'm going to try something we'll see who knows who knows. And I like scoop it out.

[00:59:57] I poured vodka on it and it came back to life. It's crazy. I'm sorry. What? Where did you hear that trick from? Some fucking idiot kid probably said it to me. Nick Nolte told. Get if I ever pass out, pour alcohol on my skin.

[01:00:15] I like back up with him to life again. That's insane. Didn't live much longer. I cannot believe that is true on a scientific biological level. I think it was just some, it's like a fucking, you know, defibrillator or you know, like

[01:00:38] it's like just the shock of the system. Is it any alcohol? I don't know. I use vodka. I mean, this is all insane. Could you give a goldfish like a Fern and Bronca? Fern and Bronca. God, I forgot about that. Yeah. Fern and Bronca.

[01:00:54] But before you give it the Fern and Bronca, you have to sob me. I failed you master. I won't see another way. Fern and Bronca. I will not bury another member of the way. I'm going on whole day. Fern and Bronca. Have fun with Catwoman.

[01:01:12] If you come back, just go that place. I'll be getting a Fern and Bronca. Sorry. Fern and Bronca. Fern and Bronca. Fern and Bronca. Don't let pain break your back. If you do the only cure is ropes. Many ropes. Do you like the Dark Knight Returns?

[01:01:35] Ray Rises, whatever the fuck it's called. Whatever that one is. Batman Rises. Whatever it turns out, it's a fourth Batman movie. I can't wait. There was a r- because people could have been saying like, oh, it's like Inception adjacent. Cool. And I think they're just saying like,

[01:01:50] oh, it's like him doing a big original high concept thing. Right. But how crazy would it be if it's like, no, it's a dream thing to do. Yeah, it's just about like the guy who invented the dream thing. For fries. Hey, Cheryl. What were we talking about?

[01:02:04] Ponyo gets revived. We love Sasuke. We are voting for him and Sasuke. We stan. Yeah. So Sasuke has Ponyo. I like that he, you know what I like about Miyazaki's like kids? This is a bit of a tangent.

[01:02:19] It's just like they always take like a couple calls in order to like respond. And that's very kidlike, right? Like Lisa's like Sasuke and he's like... And she has to call like five more times and he's like, oh yeah. Then he has to trump back up.

[01:02:35] I also love when the sea is trying to reclaim Ponyo and you see its eyes. Yeah. And it kind of goes like, they are scary. And Sasuke just goes like, that was weird. Anyway, you know, it's that like,

[01:02:49] it's just like a total of like these kids are on that liminal like fantasy reality space where they're just like pretty much anything. They're like, okay, I can roll with that. Like if you're that age and a magical thing happens, you're like, right.

[01:03:00] I still believe that magic exists. Exactly. Where it's like, all right, Ponyo is a fish. I love fish. And it's like, hey, turns out Ponyo is a person who loves you. And you're like, great, I love Ponyo. Well, the thing about this movie though is Lisa.

[01:03:12] That's like, Lisa is also like, you know what? Yeah, Lisa's also like, that's chill. That's great. Fine by me. Jesus, like so hard for kids to make friends in this town. Yeah, I will also make... Everyone in Japan is old. Great, I love Ponyo.

[01:03:24] I can't get over it. Great, I love Ponyo. That is the plot of the movie. The whole plot of the movie is about them falling in love, like in the very childish way. But like they're having this own adventure and everyone else is like,

[01:03:36] but do you think this is like love? Like what are we talking about? You say childish, but it's pure. It's pure. Pure. That's exactly it. Right. It's like when you're in Forky. What the fuck do I in Forky have? Because even by we have like five different things.

[01:03:52] You're like, you'll have to fuck Forky. I take it back. You have a beautiful childlike love for each other. Relationship is complicated. It's indescribable. They're multifaceted. Yeah, indescribable. We don't have the term... Trash. Yeah, it's transcendent. There's no way.

[01:04:05] Looking at you, watching you look at Forky warms my heart. I watched you look at Forky. And I watched you look at Forky. Well, but you were sitting in front of me. But I kept on turning around. Kept turning around doing this.

[01:04:17] I kept on turning around getting David's thumbs up and nodding my head. I was taking advice from Will Smith. Every time I liked something on screen, I would nod my head. But I was letting David... Nod your head when you like a thing in the film.

[01:04:31] Every time I approved of something in the movie, I would turn around to David Nester and flash like two very like violent thumbs up. Which is like every 45 seconds. Good, good, good. Griffin, last story story. It was one of those things where like,

[01:04:46] I barely cared about Toy Story, right? Four certainly was not that excited. I would argue you were antagonist. And then it just became... You okay? No, nothing. It just became a thing where you were like, I was just like, we just got to get Griffin in.

[01:04:58] We got to get him into this fucking thing. Like it became like a fucking heist movie into itself. Right, because you guys for Plus One, they didn't give it to you. Which is fine. Disney rarely gives me Plus One. I reviewed the movie.

[01:05:09] Did we give you one for Toy Story 4? So many people bring like four kids. That's what we realized when we got him. I had it Plus One. Well, you're right on. Whoa! I don't know. I'm talking about New York City. What's that? All right.

[01:05:24] This is a star-studded screening. Lights, Camera, Jackson. He was there. Host of the Back to You podcast was there. Sandy Kenyon. Oh! He's always there. Neil Rosen, he of the New York one. Wormy Appies. Wormy Appies. Wormy Appies. Yeah.

[01:05:37] No, he gives movies a series of apples to rate it. Or a Wormy App. Or a Wormy Apple. My favorite film critic. But David Astor Plus One. Ben Hosley, number one. The Wormy App of the New York City. Our second finance film critic. Wormy Appie.

[01:05:53] U.S. or Plus One? No go. And I was like, fine. I knew it was a tenuous ass. I'm reviewing the movie for Film Spot It. Film Spotting People reach out to Disney. To try to get you in.

[01:06:07] And they're like, we got you a Plus One to the screening in Chicago. And I was like, am I going to take a fucking plane to see Toy Story 4 early? I was about to. You were thinking about it. You were thinking about it. Flight rates, right?

[01:06:18] And then we're recording an episode. I'm losing my mind knowing that David's going to go see it without me. Right. I almost just felt guilty. I was like, this just seems wrong. Right. And Erlich is my job and I had to see it for embargo. Right.

[01:06:31] And Erlich was like, I asked for a Plus One and they never got back to me. So I can play Oblivious. Like I assume I got my Plus One and we show up with you there. And my thought is 50-50 chance they just let you in. Yeah.

[01:06:45] And I was like, fuck it. I'm going to do it. Right. So I went uptown. This is after I had been lobbying everyone to try and fuck you up. I know. Everyone went uptown was like two blocks away to be like, OK, I'm just waiting for Erlich

[01:06:55] to get here. Erlich wasn't going to get there until like 10 minutes before the movie started. And I was like, oh fuck, it's going to be like, especially people bringing like six kids. It's just about capacity and they don't have like an overflow room or whatever.

[01:07:06] And I'm like two blocks away. I'm getting a sandwich. I'm online. And Lawson just texted me. He goes, oh, I have an extra ticket for Toy Story. This one happened. Yes, I sat down next to Richard is I often do.

[01:07:18] And he was like, I had because I knew he'd had a plus one, but he was it was taken. Yeah. And he was like, well, my cost went actually canceled and I was like tech scripted Newman now. Yeah. Like now a rogue plus one over here.

[01:07:29] And he was like, well, but is he I mean, could he get here in the time? And I'm like, he's here. Yeah. He's here. He's casing the joint. Exactly. He's got a sandwich and he's here. I was looking for vulnerabilities.

[01:07:41] I was scouting out like is there a fire escape? Is there a way into the theater you're like in a garbage can? Being a sneaky I was prepared. I was like losing my mind

[01:07:57] I was like if David sees this before I do I will be equally upset if he loves it or hates it Right, I need to have I need to form an impression the exact same moment David does And and old Dickie Lawson came through got you in there

[01:08:11] Walk those two blocks met me in the the lobby of the theater with a little little toy story. That's beautiful Yep, and you saw it. You like neck and cheese bites. I did they're pretty good. Yeah

[01:08:23] How many times more will you see it? I have tickets to see it tomorrow night At the time we're recording this opening night Seeing it opening night with TC 14. Oh, yeah, I'll tell you this okay The summer has been weak for movies

[01:08:36] Yeah, I also have been very depressed in the wake of the ticks cancellation. Sorry to start to hear about I think I'm going to see it too many times I I think this movie is really gonna function as a solve for me this summer

[01:08:49] Because I believe I saw fuck what's he about to say? I believe I saw three ten times on theaters I believe I saw it and times And that's my least favorite of the friend. I think the one I've seen the most like a movie

[01:09:06] I've seen like I think four is the most I've ever seen a movie in a theater. Yeah, we're by you Cheryl You think I think three three. Yeah, I'm the worst here. Sorry three. I fully saw one time

[01:09:18] Wally I saw six or seven times. I saw a beach bubble a bunch of us fucked up every time so it really just counts as once You probably accounted for like three quarters of its sale

[01:09:28] I like the idea that then would get stone decide to go see and then realize 20 minutes in oh I think I've seen this already and that repeated itself ten times Hey, Shirley. Hey, what's up? Ponio? That's what's up?

[01:09:40] We all we've done is get to the house you let the dog off the leash. What can you say? Crap um she drives a senior home That's true, but there's yeah Well, right there's a little thing with it with like where it's punk

[01:09:59] So skates is annoying friends who are like oh, yeah bugging him about his fish. Yeah, what's your goldfish? He just has the one trick which is the The one line that his annoying friend has well, what is it like you're five you have no job

[01:10:20] Right right cuz he's being busy. Yeah, that's so close to his eye. I can't talk to you right now I can't play right now busy. Yeah, but he is busy, but then Ponio gets taken away, right? I love him hiding Ponio when he goes to school

[01:10:39] He's like these bushes aren't even part of the school yeah But then pony gets taken away right Fuji Moto there's a thing Ponio gets taken particular watering can Stolen like the Tina Fey clocks Jesus Lisa I didn't even watch the top

[01:10:58] Lisa clocks for Gmodo. Yeah, and it's like there's no weed killer here This is 80% a pedophile 20% a rogue gardener My weeds and his answer that's supposed to diffuse the situation all what are you talking about? I'm using water to or else I will dry out

[01:11:17] I'm trying to humidify myself He's such a sight. I just love seeing him insane watering If someone could nail a Fuji Moto I'd be awful. I love it to shovel the wizard He's like can't really present himself socially that's like my kind of wizard

[01:11:42] Yes, I don't like like a sophisticated wizard like a put together wizard with like everything like all his ducks in a row Yeah He dresses well, but he's got like sort of the sunken cheeks and eyeballs. He looks like a tired

[01:11:57] He's got a poor them elixirs. He also kind of looks like a David Bowie phase Here's like a fan art of him But like that's what I imagine like It looks like like told a Swinton eight right when to nail God's went and would nail this alive action

[01:12:18] But But you know that's like who you imagine the sea which being like sure I'll make fish babies with you. Yeah, let's do it Yeah, look at like the blush and the like contouring on the nose Yeah, I'm pointing those

[01:12:33] And then just he's got some male model what is more inspiring than this image Describe the immature listening a pony so pony gets captured we can get to the plot point of this actually And Fuji Modo's like you go in here

[01:12:47] You know like he's like you can't live on the surface world and she escapes with the help of her little fish sisters And then yeah, she she grows herself like a chicken body and a little yeah, you know this puffy little sort of pants babies wear

[01:13:06] You know like They all have that outfit Assumance just a little child out right exactly it's almost like a petticoat. Yes And she you know blasts her way to the surface she causes a tsunami

[01:13:21] Yeah, well she like there's that little bit with Fujimoto where he's like this is where my best magic is She saw all kinds of bullshit happening

[01:13:31] I kind of like they don't touch on it too much with the rules of his job and how he is like sort of Instrumental in the mechanics of the ocean yeah some interesting way like on some magical chemical sort of level

[01:13:45] So that he's this like over protective helicopter parent that like comes out of love, but he doesn't know how to express it Well, and what you were saying about Skipping on the seas I've never seen you this

[01:13:59] This movie and Mastering Commander which are both movies about the sea are the two movies that I will play when I'm in a bad mood Mastering Commander impania. Yeah, I'm in like a serious funk. I put them on and it's That would be yeah you sink them up

[01:14:13] No, it's gonna say there's something to the fact that it's like that you know This movie is kind of a love story and the dad is so over protective about like no boys, right?

[01:14:22] No human boys, but the cool thing about that is it's not just like no human boys It's like actually there is a really big responsibility that I have as an adult sea wizard

[01:14:32] And like I need like this is you know, I'm not trying to prevent you from doing what you want to do But actually I have a job here, but I think that's the thing that Miyazaki is kind of into is just like so much of

[01:14:44] Antagonistic behavior that that parents throw upon their children is them not knowing how to express their genuine Well-founded concern exactly if she weren't his daughter He wouldn't care this right Miyazaki who by all accounts is a bit of a stern parent himself

[01:15:02] Yeah, he's made this movie about how like children are unpredictable and uncontainable and like so full of life and like You kind of got to pull Lisa and just roll with it Yeah, because when pony there's the big tsunami and there's the I mean

[01:15:16] I love that the unspoken thing in this movies that Lisa is like the worst or best driver of all time We're maybe both. Yeah, like everyone kind of knows that she's a maniac

[01:15:25] Yeah, and like the thing where she like after pony gets taken and so skates just sitting there And he looks all sad and he's got his big ice cream and she's just like it's okay. So scared happens She's like can I have some ice cream?

[01:15:40] She like leans over while not looking at the road it takes like half the ice cream They see the tsunami they see Ponyo just running yes, she running Right because she's running well because once she's captured and they realize that she's tasted human blood

[01:15:59] She tells her father how much she wants to be on earth how much he wants me She wants to have arms and legs and so she wills herself into evolving

[01:16:08] And then she becomes a little a little she goes from becoming a chicken girl. Yeah, right to a real girl This girl to chicken girl. Yeah little chicken I love the chicken state. So her head is still sort of just like a blob

[01:16:23] Bob with the eyes in a mouth in the mouth is humongous. She looks like a what not a cuttlefish What's that thing that everyone always a lot fish? Yes, I'm talking about a lot fish are the oh

[01:16:33] You know the fish that looks like like an old Jewish man's face, you know, which thing I'm talking I do. I just want to show you the image. Yeah that thing

[01:16:40] No, what about the um the one that the Pokemon mudkip is based on axel it. What is it called axolotl? I Just settle more but I'm not sure It's one of those things where uh, uh The immediately auto-filled when I type like a Yes, no, that's exactly

[01:17:01] That's what her face looks here is mudkip to be clear. Yes That's exactly what she looks like and I like that she's got little chicken arms and legs. Yeah, it's pretty I had to rewind it and go like I was like wait

[01:17:13] When did the transformation happen and it's kind of crazy how gracefully it's done? Yes Because she's got the chicken arms legs and she's running and then she's got this like bucket and she puts the bucket on her head

[01:17:24] And the transformation happens there. Yeah, it's not like they hide the transformation with her arms But it's also not like they animate it in a way where you're like seeing the evolution She'll go back to chicken if she does magic she kind of

[01:17:42] Was a little disappointed she didn't stay in chicken state for a lot It's kind of crucial This is her with the bug where she's about to sort of like complete the transformation

[01:17:53] And but then when you know, so skase sees her in this new form he still knows like it's poncho Yeah, yes, it's my fish. Yeah, rather than be like ask some questions. He's just like you're a baby now I guess yeah, you're like me. Yeah, baby

[01:18:07] Yeah, and he already knew that she likes him because she ate the ham out of his bucket He gave her a piece of bread while I wasn't interested. She went no no no no no no no no no no no no

[01:18:14] And he said what about him and she went cool. I'll take the rest I'll take the whole slight and she's She pulls disgusting ham monster. Hell yeah And Lisa there's like a power outage and then it's just like that Miyazaki

[01:18:28] No other fucking animated movie does where it's just like every bit of business is interesting to a child Children like doing little jobs. Yeah, and every little touch that he puts into that entire sequence I love like she takes the light and just holds it on her head

[01:18:42] Fucking love the little that cool The fact that she bounces all over and she hits the glass door like there's all these little mistakes Yeah, they feel so organic and it's just it is how it is how a fish girl would react to her new surroundings

[01:18:59] So children love doing that as you said they love mirroring the things that adults do that seem banal They get into the fantasy stuff later

[01:19:06] But like I have a lot of friends who have kids now and like the first things I want to do is like pretend to cook Right tend to clean pretend to like have a little baby, right?

[01:19:13] You know what I just remembered about which I'm like wow that is perplexing Do you remember? I don't know if these still exist, but they would sell like those like toy shaving kits So that like a child could shave along with their father

[01:19:24] Right, and it was like fake shaving cream sounds fun and then like a plastic razor That was like completely dull, but so that you could put cream on your face and then like go through the sensation of it

[01:19:37] Disappearing cool, and I always would see that at like the drugstore and ask my parents they'd be like yeah, it doesn't do anything And I'd be like what are they trying to shave? I feel like nothing. It's I don't know Anything cars doing right now

[01:19:52] Boy, I hope he's like the ponio He became like the biggest goldfish in the Hudson River Yeah, he's like the mayor of the Hudson River No

[01:20:02] I was just gonna say that that's like this like task that like grown-ups view as like a fucking nuisance and it's like messy annoying Largely painful thing to do right and kids are like I want to do that

[01:20:13] Yeah, I remember Romley when she was little my sister would always want to watch me gargle mouthwash She thought it was so funny. We're just kind of funny She wasn't even like laughing that much. She would like be like you have to tell me

[01:20:26] When you're gonna do it care about brushing teeth cuz she did that But the mouth very little kid, you know, right but when I was like 15 and I would do the full like Like an each cheek that's another level yeah, right anything like that

[01:20:40] And so like this thing of just like okay, but like the powers out You kids need to step up We got things to do and them trying their hardest to do sort of like basic grown-up tasks Yeah, yeah, that's helping. No. Yeah, I think what's interesting about this

[01:20:55] I remember reading of like when they did test screenings of this I don't know if it's true, but when they did test screenings of this I think Miyazaki was kind of surprised that the kids weren't like weren't really responding to it with a lot of

[01:21:09] Enthusiasm and they were more just like engrossed by it and I wonder if it's because they were like oh That's me Yeah, yeah, mostly when I watch a movie with a little kid they aren't quiet

[01:21:20] They just watch like they're watching the most incredible thing in the world. They're very quiet and very like transmit Right. I mean, I don't know a lot of kids who are like like Like you know like sort of shouting things out

[01:21:33] I feel like that when that happens a kid doesn't like their board Yeah, I know I was yelling about the big fish a lot what I watched. Oh sure big fish Minion fish that is what it's like He calls out things a lot

[01:21:55] When I saw Apollo 11 there was a dad and like a kid like a five or six year old kid next to me Did he lead over and say that's Apollo 11? He asked it. That's the American space program. He said is that is that Apollo 11? Which number is that?

[01:22:08] Every single thing was a question Sure, and that's a movie that doesn't have like talking heads or narration or any of that Right, so when they go like the eagle has landed be like where's the eagle?

[01:22:19] There's bird on this man. He just kept on asking very like hurt question in the dog. He's like He's an astronaut America's going to space What's happening now this space program right space right? But it was like if they use any code word you'd want a definition

[01:22:36] You'd want explanation what was going on at every question. Yeah, I don't see an eagle See a weird boxy thing Well then redefine what you think of it, you know when an eagle is as he an astronaut. Where's the moon? Is that the mom?

[01:22:50] Houston don't you mean Houston? That's a real New Yorker kid. That's a New Yorker kid Well, the thing is I don't know Kathy I used to have to take Kathy to go see movies while my parents it's your little sister

[01:23:03] Yeah, sorry Kathy my little sister we are 10 years apart and I used to go like designated yeah, and She actually like when I'm thinking back on it like this was the last movie we saw together before I went off to college

[01:23:17] But growing up. I remember taking her to some adjacent theater while my parents went to go see like a legit adult movie And she was actually really fussy for most of those and I don't know if I think she might have either been bored

[01:23:29] Or she was just kind of like this none of this matters to me. Yeah, yeah So I don't know there's something special about panya Panya rules they get some ramen I like this movie exactly right. It's like a process Put in your noodles Wait

[01:23:50] And the hot water the hot water it's hot close your eyes. Don't pee Hot ham water Exactly, and then there's a ham and there's an egg But it's a fairly unobtrusive egg. I was watching this this scene between fingers I was

[01:24:06] Like try to yeah, I do love ramen. I just get my ramen without ham or egg. Oh, you know my ham either Pork ramen sometimes I prefer chicken ramen. I definitely go no egg, but I eat ramen

[01:24:22] I mean look at the scallions beautiful the scallions are really that that gets me going and the thing is like every frame of this Movie, I mean there's always something undulating right like looking at the steam there

[01:24:31] It looks good it feels safe. It feels homey. Yeah, it's cozy. Yeah, you know outside there's a tsunami Like there's a storm that too when you're a kid and you're like I know that something bad is happening

[01:24:44] But like it's okay because I'm at home my mom's here and it's like it's going up. It's fine It's comfort food the process your parents making you feel better and giving you food that yeah like it brought me back to that

[01:24:54] Yeah, you have a new fish girlfriend and it's Everything's lovely and there's something about like hot soup like that too Like I always think about like once cold outside when I'm sick when I want that comfort late at night Yep, yeah, it's okay. Love's bono. Ponyo loves ham

[01:25:11] Ponyo says ham like fifth time in the scene Uh, it's a great scene very ham focused panya falls asleep It's so cute in the classic. There's that cut to her being like She's like got the ramen noodle Like but she's just like

[01:25:30] It's another classic good thing where you're like It's time to sleep, but as a you're you're a kid and you're like you're trying so hard I want to stay up. I mean it's been a good day and then instantaneously. There's a moment where you just shut off

[01:25:43] How many times have you seen this movie do you think? Telly's 10 a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I used to watch it on cable as I said and then I just bought I bought a dumpling right like a nine fifth bullet retired bit um

[01:25:56] I have always had any time we've had a partner person in my life They have agreed with me on ponyo. Uh-huh. So forky likes ponyo And so like they would be happy to watch it with me, but maybe I'd watch by myself

[01:26:09] It's certainly me is that game we have seen the most But again, it's just because it is just such an instant comfort food movie Like it's so and even though this movie came out when I was fully an adult

[01:26:20] Grown up like it's not like I they have a childhood nostalgia for this movie. Uh, sure, you know, but it doesn't matter Sure, I have a 20-something Nostalgia for this movie. That's allowed. I know Thank you. Thank you. Shirley. You're welcome Anyway, uh go ahead. Well, no

[01:26:41] So we're in the comforting section of the movie before the anxiety settles in right, um, but then we do cut to the boat Where sosuke's dad is and they talk about the goddess of mercy Koichi

[01:26:53] That he was supposed to come home and there's the that's the best the great, uh, you know Light conversation they have where she spells out jerk She spells out bug off. Yeah, right. She goes bug off bug off. Yes

[01:27:05] Yeah, which for some reason because in the american one, I guess Yeah, I don't know Yeah, and then to speak to how uh Occupations always come up in these films I feel like you get a lot of sort of insight into the mariners life

[01:27:19] Well, the Miyazaki thing of like you have a trade You're very committed to that trade and if you give so much to that trade that there isn't enough to fully be there for your family So be it right

[01:27:30] Yeah, 100 right that that's sort of like the curse of like The the father figure right? Yeah, it's like he's too on the job. He can't he can't quit it Whether he's an evil sea wizard Or a human boatman, yeah

[01:27:46] Um, so there's some stuff going on such as the moon is falling out of the sky There are a couple things that are a little weird and we do so it's basically like You know fujimoto is like reality is out of balance Because of what's going on

[01:28:02] And so goddess of mercy shows up and she's like don't worry about it as long as she passes the test It's all gonna be okay. Yeah, right Yeah, no seafoam and fujimoto is like, but yeah, if she fails she seafoam

[01:28:14] That's that's the fear is they go like the real risk here is that now now they're tied into this whole love game They're tied to each other And the stakes have become higher right because she's gonna want to stay with him

[01:28:26] Um, but I just love that the two Uh plot lines are parallel. Like it's not like someone immediately goes to sose gamepony and says like so you guys better

[01:28:36] Fucking pass this test. Yeah, we were just watching them have a cute adventure. Yes. Yes, right right and then at the end someone's like So do you love each other in there like? Yes

[01:28:47] Because we're cutting back to sose camponio. They're like we want to the mom is out of the fucking old folks home And sose case like I want to go down there and so she makes his toy boat big

[01:28:57] Yeah, well, that's the sequence where like you you see the town underwater Yes, it's beautiful when they wake up and there's like the fish swimming by their door. It's like ancient fish I didn't bother to google if those are actual fish. I assume it's one of those

[01:29:16] It's a pop-up boat The little candle boat. Oh sure which like makes steam like have you never seen one of those? Those are real Really? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a very old-fashioned kind of toy boat a pop pop boat

[01:29:28] Yeah, and you like I love the sound exactly because when you light a little candle it makes just enough steam to sort of go like Wow Yep And so now the boat is giant so they have a giant fucking candle. Yeah fucking rules

[01:29:41] I like that. He takes the time to explain how the boat works Yes, and and how like the ramen works and all these Exactly right. Yes. I've had a little lunch So stay

[01:29:54] What are you gonna say? No, that's a kind of leadership we need right now in america I want a present who packs a little lunch for me A little lunch for where I'm at big adventure and they have all these cute like they meet the baby

[01:30:06] Yes, you know they have these cute little adventures, but then uh puny o ties herself herself out doing magic It is that thing too where like uh Like little kids like kids under five view babies as a different species

[01:30:19] They really want to go out of their way to show that they're good with babies Oh, they're good with babies, but they are a big kid But I remember when I used to be really little and I want to be nice to this baby

[01:30:28] Most babies I've met if I have Like they're like toddlers whatever right if I have a picture of them as a younger baby And I'm like do you want to see on my phone? Like I have a picture of you as a baby

[01:30:39] They're like yes, but then I show them they're like that's not me Whatever If you say so They can't quite make the leap of like there. I am as a baby. No, they're like that's a deep fake Yes That's Steve Busch

[01:30:58] So that that scene with the baby I think so he wrote that after He couldn't figure out. I'm trying to give some context. Hey, and I think we're gonna serve. Yes. I believe I have heard Um a little rumor

[01:31:09] So I think he was having trouble figuring out how to end the movie And he needed to make sure that panio kind of displayed that she liked humans, right? And she would want yeah

[01:31:20] Yeah, so sosuke is really her only target for a while. That's her only point of interest and here she's like Oh, this baby's unhappy like let's figure something out right? Ponyo is a problem solver and in return. She only wants ham

[01:31:37] The transaction is ham and we'll work for ham whatever 100% can I ask have you and forky ever considered adopting panio? I Know you already have a na-be a na-vee baby. We do

[01:31:50] That's never growing. No, it's just a paternal baby. Look at this family. I foisted upon you. You're married to forky You have a na-vee child election of junk. I mean, that's a modern family. That's a very modern family Good challenges societal norms, um a spork a man

[01:32:11] I had a point to make about the movie that has nothing to do with the bullshit. We're talking about right now Enough forky Forky's on his mind We were talking about baby nothing's great. We were talking about baby baby baby panio um

[01:32:34] Oh no, right it's the moment where um when they're like panio So what's your deal and she's like oh my daddy's the worst he imprisons me and they're like all right And what about your mom and she's like she's the best she's a scary wizard

[01:32:47] She says she's big and beautiful And then I was that's when I perked up and I was like She's single I love it. I love it All right, she's big and beautiful Uh

[01:33:03] Wait, what is and and yeah, and at one point sosuke is like talking to his mom or to his friend or someone where he's like There's not that many characters. She loves him and she can do magic Isn't that explained to the

[01:33:17] Baby's mom. Yes, I think that's right. It's when yeah, pony gets very confusing tina fey in the movie doesn't play the baby mama Very confusing I was confused What's the deal with panio I've seen this one before she's the baby mama She's got a baby

[01:33:41] Who makes these decisions Weird guy cherry side fill. Yeah, I'm insane Uh, have you ever seen him live my friend went recently and said like it's fun. I uh, I had

[01:34:00] Yeah, thank you. I was part of a sports themed sketch comedy talk show. You told me this right? Yes Where they were like, uh, hey, so have you heard the change in running order? I was like what and they were like jerry sinefield

[01:34:12] As I had to drop in and do a sec because it was at gotham comedy club It was not a stand-up show right it was like, uh, A quiz daddy hosted it scott regowski quiz daddy

[01:34:22] It was like a fake sports talk show with a lot of characters and bits and shit And he interviewed some like actual former players But uh in the middle of the show they just had to cede the stage jerry sinefield who wanted to work out his letterman set

[01:34:34] Sure, and they were like you're following letterman and uh you find sinefield. Sorry So sinefield came up and just did a like 12 immaculate minutes, of course like it was perfect

[01:34:44] I was standing in the back with a bunch of other comedians and we were just like that's like there it is That's it. That's it. I mean that can't even whether or not I find this funny

[01:34:52] That is the perfect way to do this and then he went uh, he finished He was like no I don't anything else and he took the folded paper out of his pocket

[01:35:00] And he looked at it and he was like no, I think that's everything. I don't know is anyone have any questions And someone said what do you think about hockey because it was a sports crowd He goes here's my theory on hockey

[01:35:13] There is no puck and then he just walked off stage What And then I had to come on stage and do a sketch in which the premise was You know about how there's like a boy raised by wolves This is a boy raised by the minnesota timber wolves

[01:35:31] Sounds good. There's actually uh, what do they call those things in westerns the tumbleway Tumbleweed just rolled in here not sketch I wrote. Oh is that way you were arrested? I'm seeing here for our crimes against humanity

[01:35:42] I didn't write the sketch okay, no, I know but I just say it seems like you were rounded up by interpol For doing that International got involved. Yeah, right exactly

[01:35:53] I thought that was a movie french all I'm saying is the audience did not nod the heads are not nice Shake your heads the audience weirdly seem a little less excited about what I'm doing. What?

[01:36:04] What a rude audience a little bit less excited. They should have been like Oh Then sosca and panya are encounter She gets tired again. Yeah, she gets tired because she does more magic trying to light the candle

[01:36:19] Yeah, and she couldn't you know the the boat gets a little smaller, you know, it was like pop pop and now it's like great And then they go down to the nursing home which is like shielded right

[01:36:31] Oh, yeah, we forgot to talk about the old ladies, but that's okay. Well the old ladies are Are just cute. They're cute with like one who's like particularly belligerent. Yes, uh, who I believe is based on uh,

[01:36:41] Miyazaki's mother mother. Yes. That's the one in the in the electric wheelchair. Yes. Yeah Who I believe is voiced by uh, Lily Tomlin The dog Yeah murders her name is toky. Yes. Toky is the one Uh that is Miyazaki's mommy

[01:36:58] Yeah, and the Matt Damon's the dad which is pretty nuts right because it's only like the dad only has like two scenes Yeah, yeah But whatever he just knocks that shit out the billings very weird on the american

[01:37:09] Is it let me find it because I think nois iris is first build which makes sense. It's panya. Yeah Yeah, but then it's like Taylor panya. No, she's not first build. I think it might be fully

[01:37:21] It's a Alphabetic. Is it really? Cape plan shit. Nois iris. Matt Damon, Tina Fey Frankie Jonas Clarice leechman Lily Tomlin, Billy white, Betty white Yeah, I mean the dad is there for what we were talking about before but also then you get that

[01:37:42] Incredible shot of all of the ships on that wave under the moon and that's just a great last just Ah, okay ben just looked at his uh phone and then gave me the biggest shit eating grin So something he's just looking at panioca It's panioca eating ham

[01:38:00] It's just fun. It's all day. It's just fun when the ham is the size of her You know when she's still in goldfish mode, so she's basically the size of a slice of ham

[01:38:09] I thought ben was prepping some dumb bit, but in fact he's literally just rewatching images from the movie But she eats the entire ham in like one bite like right after that right? It's the best thing but she doesn't That one's good too

[01:38:25] I love action panio when she's like zipping up to the ocean I love action panio I want a panio action figure Yeah, but she doesn't turn into like Oh you based her she's the same Panio Tom? Yeah, uh were you gonna say she really?

[01:38:37] Oh no just she yeah when she eats the ham It's the size of her but her you know her size doesn't change She doesn't do the like you know the the animated gag

[01:38:46] You know like you know like when like Tom and Jerry eats like something and it like you can see the shape You know when Jerry eats like an entire not sign belt Jerry the mouse eats an entire block of cheese and he turns into One of my favorite

[01:38:59] Anyway, I should have done that Yeah, I'm seeing that That wasn't an important data point. Where are we now? Oh, she's It's when uh, you know the mommy oh they bring her there you can get a keychain upon you on the bucket That's pretty good Little face-looking

[01:39:18] I'm gonna block it the mom Sort of invites Lisa over has a chat with her and then that's so scale like Yeah, the mom's talk. Yeah panio no matter what? When a boy loves a magical Ham loving fish And so it's like I love all the panios

[01:39:41] Which is fair and uh they say you just got to kiss this little bubble and it'll turn her into a real girl Yeah Oh there she's like climbing fish. Yeah, well sad she heard climbing the fish one little thing

[01:39:54] We haven't mentioned is the um the little tiny panios. They keep helping throughout the movie. That's right He's sort of like uh What's the noise they're making? They're wonderful I'm looking at the very sparse quotes page and I forgot that when

[01:40:19] Lisa says what's your mom like and she says she's big and beautiful, but she can be very scary So sk says just like my mom Uh hell yeah They relate to each other they relate to each other so

[01:40:35] No, I know that's why I like that the moms have a combo where they're like so our kids really like each other Yeah, I guess we're gonna be like going on some play days. Yeah, right

[01:40:42] Um and then the last shot of the movie is the little kiss. It's fucking great And she like flies through the air And that's it. It's all yeah, and you're just like It's like it's the final like the dopamine is done, right? Like the plunger is down

[01:40:56] And then you're just like great great It is Uh David's nodding off. Uh, it is an incredibly pleasant movie. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, and yet And yet there are people who like the ones who theorize around totoro have also theorized about panio

[01:41:13] Being about the afterlife and all of that Which we don't have to go ahead and see. Yeah, there's a lot to get into it. I'm kind of curious Yeah, I don't know about anything. Yeah, there's a theory about I might get some of this wrong

[01:41:25] Stop hitting each other David in the face So violent in here Um, yeah, there's a theory that after the storm actually nobody survived and actually what we're watching is a bunch of dead characters Oh, yeah

[01:41:40] Mm-hmm. Yeah, because oh god. I don't remember the particulars of this. Well. Yeah Oh But it's like but it's like, you know the old ladies under, you know the the umbrella Bubble under the ocean when they're like

[01:41:54] Oh, so this is the other side and they're all like healed and then all you know, yeah Yeah, so I feel like some people have extrapolated from that and have said that it's it's about something else

[01:42:05] Which I don't think it is about see. I feel like there are always any Movie that has a scene where someone has like some sort of vaguely near-death experience people like to theorize that they died Everything after that was their last dying thoughts or was there afterlife?

[01:42:22] Why do we do that? Uh, but I feel like breaking bad they do that with like, oh he dies in the car and the rest of the finale never happened I know people had that toy story three theory which four pretty much entirely

[01:42:32] Negates that they actually die in the center and they're like a thousand other examples and I always feel that it's like well a Uh Near-death experiences are really good for dramatic storytelling. Sure like it's nice for someone to have that sort of like final like gauntlet

[01:42:48] Whether it's like the thing at the beginning that like pushes them to actually like go for the bigger thing or the thing at the end That they finally have to overcome

[01:42:56] But secondly, like I don't I don't know doesn't that make it less interesting if the thing didn't happen Right. It's just a pleasant Theories are for school Okay, leave that shit at school and enjoy some movies and some culture and don't be like actually

[01:43:12] Actually, I couldn't have put it better myself. They're fun to read about but they're it's not my interpretation. Yes. Yes. That's interesting um box office game box office game This movie came out in america on august 14th 2009 it was the widest ever G. B. Release 9 27 screens

[01:43:34] What I make six million dollars three point five So that's what I multiplied pretty well. Yeah, okay Um Number one that weekend though surely you ready? Oh, yeah, go ahead. It's you just looking me you can open your ginger ale

[01:43:48] You're giving me a very serious. It doesn't make a sound. It's fine. Do it on mic. If you're gonna do it on mic pop Uh Number one i'm guessing is district nine Yes, opening this this is a big summer for me

[01:44:01] I just remember that movie making a big title wave and it was number one for like multiple weeks in august made a big title It was one of those summers where there wasn't a big august movie and then that played a comic con

[01:44:11] And it was the one time there was like a comic con bubble where it actually like the press the response out of comic con translated to actual audience

[01:44:21] Yes, because then the next summer scott pilgrim everyone was losing their minds at comic con then it comes out and it bombs But district nine i remember entertaining weekly Ew

[01:44:29] Writing about the fact where they were like this movie's unstoppable people were tweeting about it out of comic con Yeah, and then and then the cover. Yeah, and then the cover was his eye. Yes. Yeah And they they said like they were like the movie

[01:44:43] I think you're right The only thing i want to remind you of is a district nine obviously a big surprise hit open to 37 million dollars I think its final total was 115 so very did very well the next weekend in glorious bastards came out

[01:44:55] So it was another big august oh, okay, right? Okay. That's the only thing i wanted to remember this is why i'm filming Of course as we all remember this is the summer i'm filming where the guns go

[01:45:06] I remember way i'm like nervous about like getting hard outs to be able to make it in time to see Inglorious bastards in district nine right i was still at a level where i was like, okay

[01:45:16] Look, i want to work but come on i got movies to see Don't keep me here on set Basically at that level now No, i'm i'm i'm a harder worker um He says looking i look for a lonely everyone i had a job

[01:45:33] Excuse me. What was i supposed to say? Excuse okay, so and glars bastard comes up the next week Yeah, we're not talking about that number two. Okay, uh in its second week. Um, uh, it's uh an action film Spawn to sequel one I think just one. Okay. Yeah

[01:45:54] um You know not well received didn't do that well, but it did like okay This is its first weekend or second weekend and what what it opened to what i end up at

[01:46:05] It ended up at 150. I think oh weird. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, this is a movie. I like a lot Hmm, of course. I like this. I know right. Yeah, it's g. Ijo rise of co- What do you think of g. Ijo rise of cobra?

[01:46:21] It's fine Look, i'm really silly and fun. I'm all for doing summer. Yeah. I think he's underrated Next winter it's summers Like how many movies i'm blanching on? That's great. Next winter is summers

[01:46:37] I feel let's do it because like I don't know if we should actually do it, but it's interesting career Why the fuck shouldn't we do it? Okay, what? Why shouldn't we do it? Did he make

[01:46:48] Adventures of tom Sawyer huck fin huck fin okay with Elijah wood. I believe so And uh live action nine movies total The first one is matt dillon. Uh, no, sorry not not met. I don't know if i talk about he just looks like matt dillon

[01:47:02] a movie called catch me if you can Some kind of teen movie excuse me that film's directed by stewinsville No, that's not information then huck fin with elijah wood live action jungle book live action jungle book Which is in my memory kind of cool

[01:47:15] Yeah, like back when they were like if we're gonna do a live action jungle book shouldn't just have animals Tiger it's like With jason scott lee uh then deep rising which is a

[01:47:28] Fucking masterpiece like that's the one where you're just like when you watch it you feel like you've found buried treasure I still never see i remember wanting to see it so badly as a child. Well, it's so good. Yeah

[01:47:38] Have you that's crazy? It's so good. Have you seen deep rising? That's one with the attestive kid recognizes the puzzles in that's like mercury. Oh fuck. What's deep rising? It's about sea crime Yeah, it's about a bunch of hell. Yeah, it's about an amazing It's about an amazing

[01:47:55] Ocean liner launches right big luxury cruise ship a bunch of sea pirates try to rob it set in modern times I don't think i've ever heard of those but the problem would be the yams and famka yams

[01:48:06] Correct and kevin j o'connor was studi jason climbing jimon hansu all kinds of fucking weirdos tagline I was gonna get to the tag hurt us jason Yeah, the court is uh, so but it's like that alone is a fine premise right?

[01:48:20] It's like crazy luxury luxury liner a bunch of criminals try to rob it Like you know what's gonna happen next but also there's like a sea serpent on board that's eating people

[01:48:30] I did not know this movie existed and I just saw the tagline ben. Do you want to say it? Yeah Full scream ahead And the poster's a woman screaming Fucking rules. I can't believe you've never seen deep rising at rules

[01:48:43] Okay, so then he does my my returns mummy which is one of the better movies ever made mummy returns Which is one of the worst movies ever made Uh van helsing which is a nightmare insane

[01:48:54] But kind of the blank check. Yes, you know, that's where he's like can I do this and they're like, okay When van helsing came out it was like man, this is it. They're never gonna get bigger and

[01:49:05] And more overblown than that and now like van helsing looks like a fucking independent art house film compared to the Shit like van helsing looks like a ken loach movie At the time it was like there's stuff like so much into this thing Dracula and a werewolf what?

[01:49:21] Um then gi joe rise of cobra and then a movie called odd thomas that he made for five bucks and that's it Oh, that's a dantan yelkin. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, we're gonna do him

[01:49:30] Winter's gonna be summer someday. I don't know number three. Yeah new this weekend. It's a weepy film with a woman and a man They have a romance you cry You cry uh cry is it the time travelers why it's the time

[01:49:45] Travelers why this summer is very vivid for me I'm trying to get better. You've got to follow up with a time travel. I don't know she has like Pizza man Who's always given her advice? I don't fall in love with that many is a time traveler

[01:49:59] She keeps on making it. It's a very soft movie Rachel McGonagall's will not stop falling in love with time travel Then number four at the box office and second week. It's a sort of uh double biopic Julie and julia I remember that

[01:50:16] Good job guys. Yeah, hell yeah the movie that inspired grandma Right really? Yeah the movie not the blog Uh, she saw the movie like the blog She saw the movie and says who's this other woman or I showed her the trailer right?

[01:50:32] And she said who's that woman? I said it's julia. She put yeah, I know who julia child Not asking about julia right She's talking about julie right she's ten at this point and she said who's the other woman

[01:50:43] And I went she wrote a blog and she went and then what and I went and it got kind of popular And she went and then what I said then she sold the book and she said and then what and I went

[01:50:50] They made this movie about our amy am's plays her and then like an hour later Romney was like I think I might start a blog

[01:50:57] There's um, I had a classmate in college who watched julie and julia once every day for a full year and he had a blog About watching it. Hey look that's a great blog. Uh, it was excellent. He could remember extras faces by the way

[01:51:12] That's another very pleasant movie and I know most people's gripe is that they don't like the julie half of it That was the great part of fun Christmas scene is really good in that

[01:51:23] He's good. It's one of those movies where she's just like I'm just so fucking annoying You're like life seems okay. Like I don't know. Chill out julie. It's okay. You got double a

[01:51:35] Uh, sure. She's the best. She's good number five is uh, oh, I think it won the academy award for best picture this year One of the canonical Best films ever made i'm gonna take a big swing and I hope I get this right

[01:51:47] The goods live hard sell hard now. Here's the thing. Yeah, that's number six Opening this weekend and I remember that was like people were like

[01:51:57] The next anchor man, right? Like that was really being pitched just like people are gonna go fucking. Is it neil brennan directed it from Chappelle show. I know who neil brennan is but did he direct it?

[01:52:06] I believe he directed the goods live hard sell hard which I watched on a plane and how is it? Uh, that's the okays This is a good or what? You're right neil brennan. Yeah, wow

[01:52:18] And it was like didn't write it though. No like finally piven's gonna get a movie Yeah Who wanted that? Everyone he couldn't stop winning amis. How does piven deal with like his like hair fluctuation?

[01:52:30] Like is it just the thing where like we all know that he has plugged no shit out of his hair It's like emperors new clothes style right if you ask somebody to be like, I've always had this hair

[01:52:38] Yeah, definitely. You'd be like here's an episode of ellen and he'd be like, uh, hair looks the same I take my hair for that role. He has hair blindness Right. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just like right

[01:52:49] I think if you ask him that he would just be like, oh cool man cool man and then like someone would come over to Strangle you

[01:52:56] I was signaling someone. Yeah, it's silent. No number five. No, it's the no come on the academy ward for best picture went to this film Are you so you're not making a joke? Uh, no, I'm making a joke about the quality of this film which is poor

[01:53:10] Because this is the same time a year that hurt lockers come out. It's a fair point But no i'm not talking about This movie sounds good. This movie is about heroes

[01:53:19] I will say that you write this down and you read it and you go that's a pretty good movie Hurt lockers number 21. I have no idea what he's talking about on paper. This movie is probably worse Who's in it? We've got um sam rockwell uh zack gal finacus

[01:53:36] Nicholas cage, but i'll be cruised. Oh does this have animals? Oh Is it um It's called g force. It's called g force. Nice to talk in theaters. Oh, it was guinea pigs. I believe yeah

[01:53:49] This is the movie that like ends jerry brockheimer's 15 year run at disney. They were like we made your fucking guinea pig movie now get off the lot I remember this being an option for a for a cathie picture Catch it

[01:54:04] G force gizmos guinea pigs in 3d. That's the tagline. Yeah, I definitely sub tagline the tagline was the world needs bigger here Yeah, I saw this in disney digital three day. What'd you think of that one? Uh, it's not a good film

[01:54:16] So kind of like a g minus David does through his arms up in the air and victor i remember that's a good poster He's throwing the the horns. Yeah, the uh the guinea pig is yeah

[01:54:30] Which one is it the sam rock wallet? I think the sam rockle plays the hero Uh, pawn play crews of course plays the sexy guinea pig Nicholas cage plays like the tech guy And tracy morgan's the wild car

[01:54:54] Yeah, she's got these same shapeless mound body as the other guinea pigs But the coder is being very attractive to everyone around her Dalfinakis is the human Scientist who's tasked with overseeing the guinea pigs. It comes out right after hangover

[01:55:09] So he is like now doing like late night shows because they're trying to sell him And he went on conan and they didn't talk about g force. He was on for two segments, right?

[01:55:19] He makes it past the commercial break. He comes back on again at the end of it conan said so you have this movie out in theaters now and he went yeah, it's um

[01:55:27] It's called g force. I play a scientist who's tasked with overseeing a team of uh guinea pig special agents You know, I mean it's it's based on the off-road way play Oh boy

[01:55:42] Anyway, that's number five. I think bill nye plays the villain in it. Yeah, I think you're right Yeah made 120 million dollars and lost like 90 million dollars that movie somehow cost 200 million dollars. Oh those guinea pigs had a high quote. The story I was gonna say was uh

[01:55:57] Derek Simon Uh, we'll someday be a guest on the show. Yeah timing never works out Uh, we went we were walking around the disney store as a couple cool 19 year olds do new york city friday night

[01:56:08] Friday night. Oh, it's definitely a friday night. Please make it worse. Yeah, and uh, there was a g force t-shirt That was really good and Derek was like i kind of want to buy this t-shirt

[01:56:18] Why was it really good? It was just a fun. It was like funny It said g force and it had them on the bubble and was just like if you remove the association with the movie It was kind of just a striking image Go force

[01:56:29] We both at that time too would buy a lot of children's t-shirts Because we're small men you are and we'd be like this is funny to have like a shirt designed for a boy, right? I never get to through the day Whatever it barely got me through

[01:56:42] But he was like looking at the shirt and he was like it's 15 dollars And I was like for 15 dollars you could buy the shirt Or we could go see the movie

[01:56:50] And I somehow talked him into going to see the movie and we sat there and 30 minutes and he was like I wish I'd bought the shirt

[01:56:57] So he walked out. I was like you could we could go back and buy the shirt. He's like no, I don't want to have the shirt now Now I've seen it. I don't like the movie Uh boy here are some other films in the top 10

[01:57:10] We got harry potter and the half blood prince the best film in the series You have the ugly truth in which there was hearts on the genitals The little stick figures That's the ugly truth

[01:57:24] Surely was in the theater the trailer played and you know when the hearts go down Funny people. Yeah, I love I love I love that movie 500 days of summer Oh, yeah, it's the only movie of 2009. Don't love that movie. Yeah. Um, what a talk

[01:57:43] What a talk what a great discussion about panya What a great guess What a great guess and I'm so glad that we got to do this one surely one final thought please I think I've said this before to you sims Her coloring that red

[01:57:58] That is the most comforting color. Yep, and I love it And I want to see more of it. I wonder if it was a conscious like color therapy thing or there's

[01:58:10] Um, michio yasuda. I think is the one who had worked with miyazaki on the coloring of a lot of his films Interesting. Yeah, and she always she thinks about the color story and the palette of the film a lot

[01:58:21] So just tossing it a little that and all that more here. Yeah, you know, you know, you make like the color map And then the panyo color map is especially soothing. Yeah, that red is it's a very soothing movie in general I find a very soothing. Yes

[01:58:36] We're all relaxed Relax Next week the wind rises the wind will rise next week. I don't know who our guests will be if we'll even have a guest It's october October it's october What oh, so let's do this because we're recording this right now in june

[01:58:59] Okay, let's let's end the episode with a little on the record. What do we think's gonna happen? What's gonna be going on in october 2019 Uh, I think the movie is gonna come out and do so well that will become president

[01:59:11] Wow, like and that's not a joke. Yeah exciting Yeah Because that just came out. Yes, and so yeah, like that's right. He's you know, he's united united america Do you think trump is gonna start like quoting the Very smart guy very smart beat the batman

[01:59:33] A lot of people say you know, they're a lot of people who say he beat the batman a lot of people, you know He comes in There's the chetchin. You know, I can't do trump. I wish I could do trump. These are scary guys. They're scary guys

[01:59:45] Because they're all scared of the trump I find it a blessing that I don't do a good trump impression like I'm like, I'm glad I can't go into that On the record. I think I know what david sims next tattoo is That's forking

[02:00:05] People are gonna really enjoy this because they'll have been like they'll be like who what like it'll be one of those like Collective freakouts that we all had so what finger does the ring go on for forky because he's got like a little

[02:00:16] Demented oh, I think you put it on the middle right? Three little or do you put it on the spork? End. I think it's fall off that way with his wobbling Because the sporks the little prongs are very short. Um, thanks for being here

[02:00:29] Please come back whenever you're in the city again or in the tri-state area Hell yeah, uh, because it's always nice when someone lets the dog off the leash Let's run around a bit. Thank you for having me back Arf I swear last time I blocked out

[02:00:44] Oh last time we were really cranked up. Yeah, I don't know what was happening. Last time was all rickman Yeah Oh and last time I forgot eating ham mr. Plung now

[02:00:58] Last time I forgot to shout out my friend JJ. Hi JJ. Oh shout out to JJ. There we go committed blanky. We left He has a baby now. I know Have you seen no, you haven't seen I haven't seen Show your baby panya. Yeah

[02:01:15] Heed these words yeah, and I guess congratulations to David on the uh Oh god, yes I was gonna say on the on the pending approval of your adoption of panya Okay fair enough and you're a little family

[02:01:31] I think see well, I know that this point Toy Story 4 is old news I think Forky's about to have a massive summer. I think forky's gonna have a mini me summer Remember mini me fever

[02:01:43] Yeah, I do it's gonna strike again. Yeah, and you're gonna be right there right next to the eye of the hurricane All right Okay, thank you all for listening. Please remember to if you subscribe Thanks to ang for good for our social media. David has removed his headphones

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