Predator with Jon Gabrus
February 18, 202402:53:38

Predator with Jon Gabrus

[00:00:00] Clackjack with Griffin and David,

[00:00:05] Clackjack with Griffin and David,

[00:00:09] Don't know what to say or to expect.

[00:00:12] All you need to know is that the name of the show is Clackjack.

[00:00:18] If it bleeds, we can podcast it.

[00:00:24] That was such a fucking...

[00:00:27] That was so sad. Arnold to explain why you have such a pathetic short-singer impression. So that's my dead accurate, Arnold impression. It doesn't say hey Arnold, it says he, yarn, to say get to the chopper. Come on. Okay. Get to the podcast. I can't do it. What? Get to the chopper. Get to the, like Dracula.

[00:01:40] Get to the, get to the chopper.

[00:01:42] Love, love.

[00:01:44] You do it.

[00:01:45] You try one.

[00:01:46] Uh, no, I mean, let me see.

[00:01:48] Oh, see, it's good shit. Oh, okay. I'm so like bathed in this dude's life.

[00:03:01] I like talk about him like three hours a week more or less.

[00:03:04] Yes, yes.

[00:03:06] That's the most of action boys. that is objectively true, the dude is broken in a specific way. Luckily, he chose something that lined up with his insane genetics and his ability to handle hormones. Right, it was a injection. God bless him. I mean, good for him. The fact that he became governor was the governor.

[00:04:21] Had that kind of a mixed 10-year-old governor.

[00:04:23] Publican governor of California.

[00:04:26] For a decade?

[00:04:27] Eight years.

[00:04:28] Yeah. historian as well. His dad was a Nazi and he has intense regret and he knows what that did to his dad and what it did to his home country. And so he's like, guys, I'm, hey, we'll keep the taxes low. But we got to save just the magic out of like this is like such unshoey, sophisticated filmmaking. Yes, like you put aside the special effects and all the like the the memeable moments

[00:07:00] and all the things that people like to focus on.

[00:07:01] And you're just like, this movie has astonishingly little

[00:07:06] dialogue considering that almost every line is like is Ben Rogers and Ryan Stanger coming on this. Oh wow. This going on like nine years ago. The second episode of High and Mighty, the first was Jake and Amir, the guys who picked my podcast up. The second was. And the topic of that episode was letting me do a podcast. It was about launching a podcast. And then this literally one night at a bar at Birds, Rogers and I were talking, we kind of knew Ryan Stanger

[00:08:22] and he comes over and I'm like,

[00:08:23] I'm thinking of launching a podcast

[00:08:24] where I just like have celebrities come on

[00:08:26] and talk about my favorite movies.

[00:08:27] And he's like,, yeah. You even talk about if it bleeds, like I was watching this and I was reading the McTyran commentary, the Blu-ray allows you to do the commentary subtitles. Whoa. Because I was like, I wanna hear, I wanna hear McTyran's insights, but I also don't wanna not hear the Sylvesteris score. Or the Langen readings.

[00:09:40] I listened to the theme from Sylvesteris,

[00:09:41] the Hall Walk from the G-Trami,

[00:09:43] how fun read this score go.

[00:09:45] Yeah, I stupidly don't think of it immediately, JJ did digging in some other things. I'm like, this is a movie that needs a nine hour documentary. 100% I would gladly sit in a chair and talk for hours into a camera for the sake of this dive. I remember watching if it bleeds a billion times when I was 15 years old, but I'm like, that's not enough. And the other thing that's fascinating about this movie similar to Robocop is like, this movie was like forged in like trauma and pain and stuff.

[00:11:03] Like everyone is losing their mind making this movie.

[00:11:06] And then also everyone's account of what went down the call, right? Moldova. Yeah. Right. Right. And what's it called when you can't take someone out of the state like a no extraction law? Whatever. Look, no extradition. There's already so much to talk about. We're like setting up like 50 different requests. This podcast, that's what I'm trying to do now is blank check with Griffin and David. I'm Griffin.

[00:12:20] I'm David.

[00:12:21] It's a podcast about philanthropies, directors who have massive success early on in their

[00:12:24] careers.

[00:12:25] Like, for example, having does anyone doing here? Like, it does have a bit of a mood. It does, but it has a noirry LA mood. It doesn't have a jungle action movie mood. It doesn't have, let's gather eight of the craziest fucking people in Hollywood and trap a jungle again.

[00:13:40] So the thing with no man's is,

[00:13:42] let me finish the introduction.

[00:13:43] Yeah.

[00:13:44] The director is doing a massive success,

[00:13:45] looking for predators at the second fall.

[00:13:46] Early on in the career,

[00:13:47] to give it a series of blank checks, Yeah, so come to this address, yeah, go to the elevators. Also, what are your measurements? Like that would be the new, yeah. It's not a value judgment because the way our favorite guests, people like you, who we love and we love to have on the show and try to have on regularly. Sometimes it's about timing, sometimes about what we cover in the regular place across the country. You know, it's not like we give preference to certain people to only give them the best

[00:15:03] movies or only the worst movies for this or that.

[00:16:05] If you have it occupied the space of Fast and Furious at large, that's like an impeccable five.

[00:16:06] I am thrilled with that five.

[00:16:08] When you texted me about this, I was like, I'm going to be in town on a whirlwind tour.

[00:16:14] I could do that.

[00:16:15] It was just like, who should we have to do predator?

[00:16:17] And then we were like, wait, we're fucking morons.

[00:16:19] Right.

[00:16:20] It is so easy.

[00:16:21] The highlight of getting a text from Griffin that says, we're doing John McTearnan on

[00:16:25] blank check. and everybody loves it forever and ever now, right? Like no one has any shit to talk about Predator. No, and weirdly like the junkiness and the like odd, misstepped nature of the Predator franchise continuing for decades only helps the reputation of this movie. How can you not make that movie again?

[00:17:41] It looks so easy.

[00:17:42] Yes.

[00:17:43] It's muscle guys with guns

[00:17:44] and the Predator fucking wastes them.

[00:17:45] Like why do you keep fucking this up?

[00:17:48] Every time someone fucks it up, Predators, that one's really solid. I don't hate any of these. I hated the Predator. The seems like where there's someone's doing Tourette's in a movie. I've erased that movie from my brain. Smart. I wish I could. Like it's like a trauma response. Instead I erased my social security number and my mom's birthday. But I still have predators deep in there and the Predator and Requiem and.

[00:19:02] It is.

[00:19:03] But once again, like all of these,

[00:19:04] you're like on paper, semen sample and fecal sample. I get my underwear get all three. Like his insane. Insane and say insane and pray is using UCB terminology here. Sorry to 8% of your listeners. You're welcome to the 92% that have taken level two. Yeah. I think pray is chasing the

[00:20:23] game of the predator that I like. Yeah. Now of famous warrior. Feudal Japan continues to be the rumor of what they're actively developing for them. It makes total sense. Yeah, and just fucking slam dunk.

[00:21:41] There's this long-standing sort of Mars, that's not a movie where the writing is what I like about it. Behind enemy lines, they have a story credit on, you know, solidish. Incredible, solid, solid, solid, simple action. You know, I'm sure they, like, oh, a guy gets caught behind enemy lines. And the guy was like, yeah, fine.

[00:23:00] You could bizarrely get a story credit on this

[00:23:02] and the DVD sequels we're gonna make.

[00:23:04] Sure.

[00:23:06] That's about it since then.

[00:23:07] But like the Wild, I think it was these two guys independently writing a script, meeting a moment where the joke had entered the culture. Right. And suddenly is landing of like, oh,

[00:24:21] basically the framework exists for us to green light this.

[00:24:23] I just missed the 80s when it was like, we need to write a script that

[00:24:27] Arnie and Sly will get an impitting war over. son. The hunter fieri. So they write this movie, which is basically, yeah, just the most dangerous game with an alien and like the most dangerous game is going to be like soldiers. So they're even more dangerous. Right? Like, look, I want to give them a little credit here. I do too. They did a great job. There's a really smart logic chain of like, if this then what that we're just going to throw so many improv

[00:25:42] terms out. Stop it. But for listeners who don't know Griffin and Most dangerous game, I'm sorry. Most dangerous game with a species that's better at hunting than we can even fathom, right? Right. So then who would they wanna hunt? The deadliest humans. Who are the deadliest humans? Commandos, yeah. You know, like guys in fatigues. And then you're like, oh, so it's them in the jungle. Like there's, once you have this idea. This is the 80s, so it's like everything is like

[00:27:00] Nicaragua and like, you know, all that shit.

[00:27:02] The people he's in the jungle, right?

[00:27:04] The people he's just like lying at this movie came out

[00:27:05] in like the 90s, it would have been like the Middle East.

[00:27:07] It would have been the middle.

[00:27:08] It would have been the middle. like movie dork to ascend to like a high position who wasn't like I'm Jack Warner, the magic of the movies was like isn't it cool monsters fucking punch it. John Davis, a producer at Fox, a new producer at Fox had worked on commando, which is a film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right. So Fox is like starting to see the value of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[00:28:21] Oh yeah, that guy.

[00:28:21] Yeah.

[00:28:22] He's pretty popular.

[00:28:23] People like him.

[00:28:24] Yeah.

[00:28:24] But it's, look, I think he was are like kid ideas for something where it's just like, what if we were all just jack dudes with machine guns in the jungle? It's like awesome. Commando is like, there's a sequence where he goes to a gun store and just picks out his weapons. Like it's a video game fucking. There's also that scene in the Terminator. Like it's like, they just know that it's like,

[00:29:41] what's his character's name?

[00:29:43] John Matrix.

[00:29:44] John Matrix.

[00:29:45] Yeah, it's like a nine year old came up

[00:29:47] with a character name an undercover cop. It's like, well, of course, the undercover cop would be six foot three, 295 pounds and shredded.

[00:31:01] But plug and play is a good point

[00:31:02] because you're like, right, Terminator, everyone goes,

[00:31:04] you know what this does actually make a lot of sense

[00:31:06] for casting, what a perfect opponent. It's funny to me that it's like, well, that's his comedy era is him poking fun at what it established action star he was. Which he was. No, he was huge, but it's like, comedy is what finally really broke him to the A-list. That's what moved him to the very top of Hollywood, is when he started doing the comics. When he proved he could do that, it was kind of like, okay, we forgive you.

[00:32:22] You know what else he could do

[00:32:23] that not a lot of people in his realm can do?

[00:32:26] He's great like he's saying, you ask work hard and he's never done that. This is the other thing about this guy being like the greatest self-actualizer in history. They're like, okay, you wanna be a movie star?

[00:33:40] First of all, probably never gonna happen

[00:33:42] in legitimate films because you are a body builder

[00:33:45] with no acting training.

[00:33:46] But if you wanna give this a go just to be a So he goes and trains with like a master samurai swordsman and trains like hours a day and like works on developing his shoulders Because Conan would be swinging a sword all the time He understands this fucking visual storytelling like he's an incredible communicator Like you what you're saying about Conan that I found so interesting in the documentary is like, his objective was not I wanna be the biggest guy in the world. He was like, I looked at bodybuilders and I was fascinated by the way that muscles were sculpted.

[00:36:21] And he was like, I was going for very specific aesthetics.

[00:36:25] I wasn't just trying to be larger than everyone else,

[00:36:27] which he did basically do, right? Franco Colombo, who was his best friend, RIP. But then yes, then he won the next mystery universe. He was just like, great, note taken. My calves will be superior. And he, along the way, every time he met a new weightlifter, a powerlifter, or a bodybuilder that was doing something different than him, he was open-minded, learned from them, stole from them. He did whatever it took.

[00:37:41] He's not afraid.

[00:37:43] That's another thing.

[00:37:44] He's open to input.

[00:37:45] Well, this is look.

[00:37:46] He wanted to be Reese, in Terminator. He's kind of doing the same thing with acting. Like he's watching other guys act, who are maybe more natural actors than he is. There's a moment, and if it bleeds when he's like, and we've got all these big muscle men soldiers and wrestlers and football players here. And I'm like, that's what excites him in such an interesting way. It's like, bro, it's like a 13 year old kid. And then there was one guy there who knew karate, you know, like it's like, it's such

[00:39:03] a fucking dream.

[00:39:04] But that's like, that gets something out picks kind of ambitious script post-commando. Commando's like unambitious. Commando is I throw guys through walls. This is also the moment when he is like, IFI, he likes like genre stuff.

[00:40:20] He's also fully legitimized now.

[00:40:22] He doesn't have to like go to Dino De Laurentis.

[00:40:25] Right, right, right.

[00:40:26] It's like the major studios wanna a magnificent seven. Like that's a- Not a bad impression. He wanted guys working together. He wanted, he says it took me back to my bodybuilding days where you work with a bunch of guys like you're saying, you got a camaraderie that develops. He wanted to capture that. But also he's so aware of his limitations that he's like, I shouldn't be doing 90% of the dialogue.

[00:41:41] Right.

[00:41:42] I should have other guys.

[00:41:44] I think he's wise.

[00:41:45] And you get fucking Bill Duke and Carl Weathers

[00:41:47] who are like liquid charisma. on Duke. We'll give them eight minutes. 12 minutes for two, got another five for the for the for the shaving. Which is the first time I've noticed that they establish it on the chopper right in. It's right. It's right at the start. So John Davis takes credit for McTyrnan. He says, I saw Nomad. I liked it. I made Larry Gordon watch it and say like this

[00:43:03] is the guy. Schwarzenegger takes credit for, this works. For me, I'm a team guy. X-Men, heist movies, he, like, anything where everyone has like a specialty and because of, I think, being like, you know, simmered in GI Joe my whole life. If you could like look at the way someone is dressed and guess their specialization is like a dream come true. This is a very real American hero coded movie.

[00:44:22] Yes, yes, it's human GI Joe, it's so perfect.

[00:44:25] But you get to fucking actually kill people for once,

[00:44:27] not just like planes crash and you see parachutes because he gets shouted out so much in his podcast. We've covered one of his films. OK, New Zealand filmmaker, Jeff Murphy, who, of course, directed under siege to dark territory. Yeah, of course. But also was the original choice to direct this and the original choice to direct alien three, one of the many original choices. Sure. A great filmmaker. He's made goodbye for a pie, oodoo, the quiet earth, a lot of good New Zealand

[00:45:41] films that he made like junkie American movies, young guns to free Jack under siege

[00:45:47] to, you know, stuff like that.

[00:46:42] of a road, which is kind of telling, where it's like maybe that's not his strength.

[00:46:44] And the script is vaguely incoherent ways.

[00:46:46] It's fucking nonsense, dude.

[00:46:48] You'll see it somewhere.

[00:46:48] But there is like a mood and a tone,

[00:46:50] and the thing, I think there's a Gordon quote in the dossier

[00:46:53] about just like, a lot of that movie is just Pierce Brosnan

[00:46:56] looking at a van slowly rolling down the street

[00:46:59] and a maintained sense of ominous dread

[00:47:01] of like, when is this gonna break?

[00:47:03] And they were like, if he can make a van scary,

[00:47:06] and he has no money, and this movie's just Pierce Brosnan Yes, even just the cooking effect. You do not see him with the helmet on for an hour plus. No. I mean, let alone the face. I clocked it. I think it's a little under an hour is when he takes out his toolkit and tries to like fix his wounds. And that's the first time you're seeing like his hand without cloaking. Right. You're seeing like his hand and his thigh.

[00:48:21] You're seeing actual body parts.

[00:48:22] It's awesome.

[00:48:24] Donald McAlpine shot this film, the people who have to green light at the crew members who have to start developing, you know, strategies based on the script,

[00:49:42] everything needs to be communicated so clearly

[00:49:44] of I understand exactly from this,

[00:49:46] what this scene is like, what this room needs

[00:49:48] to be like the guy in a movie who's carrying the story, you kinda need to have a good writer's break.

[00:51:00] You need to have a grasp on the story

[00:51:01] and like character and all that shit,

[00:51:03] which I'll call this from the writing for you.

[00:51:04] Or else you're just getting lucky.

[00:51:05] And to a certain extent, I do think Arnold's

[00:51:07] a kind of sad. Yeah, it's really sad. And then like, I mean, there's some viral video of like one of those, you know, direct videos, Seagal movies where he plays a guy who's dragging like it's like

[00:52:21] a soul army scene and he's dragging someone who Well, Willie, yeah. Facial hair. And then the Hollywood Hulk Hogan facial hair. Yeah. The makeup artist uses a magnetic pencil on him. It just drags the little metal shavings over.

[00:53:42] But Schwarzenegger never was like, they need to let me write and direct the film, right?

[00:53:46] Right. That's a government and then I hate like that's a good day. Yeah, but that's a good day. You're like he's hiring the guy who did the fugitive and the first under seat. That's a good pick. And today's is Peter Himes, who's a great action director. Six days Robert Spottis would coming off of tomorrow. Never dies. This isn't another best or anything, but like spot that was a big movie. And then it's turn turn me to three.

[00:55:00] Yeah.

[00:55:01] And then he's the governor of California.

[00:55:03] It's like another good pick like breakdown rules.

[00:55:05] Breakdown rules.

[00:55:07] Yeah.

[00:55:08] It does. in the commentary that they didn't want to pay for weathers, that he was sort of like outside of... Apparently, McTurna's first idea was like, let's get Vietnam vets. Like, let's get real guys. The casting director, what's her name? Her name is Jackie Birch. Yes. That was her big idea of like, if we want like guys who can out-tough

[00:56:23] Schwarzenegger also in this age grouping, we can get only Vietnam vets and have them all ever seen. Wow. Rewatch this commando sequence. The dude is on all fours and the girl is behind him with his hands on her hips. And it's played in the background. No one reacts to it. They just do the classic like, oh, you know, but it's fucking wild. I was like, wait, can we go back? Do you guys think the Deadpool has seen commando?

[00:57:42] My least favorite thing about Deadpool is what you are referencing essentially.

[00:57:44] Like I'm happier Rocky to be like,

[00:59:03] I really think if we put him in the scenes with Arnold, it's gonna up Arnold's game.

[00:59:07] Apparently it did.

[00:59:08] Yes. dog somebody real quick for an idea of three more movies. Is that Felicia or Sean? No, that's real. We don't do we know who Donas is mom is she's not in the movie. No, they're waiting to reveal. It's like Adrian, like the movies like this. They're eating its own tail at this point. They've done a good job making Creed sequels not suck, but it's going to be so

[01:00:22] easy for them to make a mistake like that.

[01:00:24] That rock was kid be like, it's like, this is fucking, this is Rocky Babies.

[01:01:23] him were bodies that don't really have to work with him. Right.

[01:01:24] And it's the same thing that I think fucked Eddie Murphy and dream girls, which is like,

[01:01:28] well, the globes will give it to them.

[01:01:30] The critics associations will give it to them.

[01:01:32] But not colleagues, not in discreetly.

[01:01:34] You can tag where the union is so big and a lot of them are just people who idolize

[01:01:37] these guys that may have never worked with them.

[01:01:39] And they get to the academy and it's like, do you understand how late he was every single

[01:01:43] day?

[01:01:44] Yeah.

[01:01:45] He made Griffin Newman look early.

[01:01:46] That's why you're never going to win an Oscar.

[01:01:47] Do you understand how big his shits were? giving him awards. My point was just like, the arc of those four Rocky movies, Rocky goes from being like, a non-the dog to being like a fucking cartoon superhero, right? Apollo Creed becomes the humanity of the movie, but at the same time that Rocky's becoming this absurd action hero. Apollo becomes like the actor of the movie. You're like, oh, we need to like put some heart

[01:03:01] and it's like, well, we'll give those lines to Creed.

[01:03:04] It's just, there's viewings is like, they give him that moment of like, you don't have to do these like, no, you know, and I owe it and you're like, that's more than this movie needs. Agreed. And that's what keeps this elevated all time. Talked about the interesting politics of this movie. Ternan said, in the draft, the first draft he read, which I imagine was still written by the brothers.

[01:04:21] Sure.

[01:04:23] Dylan was, it's like halfway movie twist,

[01:04:25] Dylan is the bad guy.

[01:04:27] Yeah. He is the first half of the movie? And then you reveal he's like mustache twirling puppet master in the back and the shadows. It's like, nope, he fucking reveals where he was coming from, Schwarzenegger calls him out on it and he has to suddenly assess was I wrong about all of this. And the second half of the movie is him being like,

[01:05:41] I've like fucked everything up.

[01:05:43] I like followed a lie, blimey.

[01:05:45] I sent another group of friends to death.

[01:05:47] Yeah, and I'm but you make noise again. And it's like, oh, this is fucking awesome. And everyone kind of gets one scene with Dylan

[01:07:00] where they're like fuck off square.

[01:07:02] And it's so funny to cast Carl Weathers as the pencil and baby oiled arms going like this. Vascular as fuck, you know they were like hitting the bands and the dumbbells in between. And no one looks cooler in this movie coming off the fucking, when they all come off the chopper and their street clothes with their cool sunglasses and shit. His long red polo. Yeah. Like weirdly long.

[01:08:20] Jesse Ventura's got like fucking Linda trip glasses on.

[01:08:23] Yeah.

[01:08:24] Yeah.

[01:08:26] It's also, you're get like free rewrites out of, just give him a hair and we butter him up with the roll.

[01:09:40] And then he gets there and he's like,

[01:09:41] no, I agreed to do this so I could act and be in Mexico.

[01:09:44] Right, and John Davis is like,

[01:09:45] kill his character off.

[01:09:46] Right, so that's, he's dead. No, he dies. Like God. Two beats. And then all right. I mean, even the predators, like you keep doing the pussy line and get out of here. The movie, the script, it's like underwritten in a very interesting way, like you're saying, but

[01:11:00] everything someone says seems like something they would say.

[01:11:05] You know what I mean?

[01:11:06] Like from Ventora's sling in out at dinner, I mean, this was a couple months ago now, but we were like, you were talking about your fashion show and then a friend of a friend went, so I'm confused. I thought you said you were a podcast producer. You have a clothing line?

[01:12:20] You're like, well, I did a show for a clothing line. He was like, was it a bit? And you were like,

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[01:15:05] They've got a team of experts with the resources, like killed off early but fired. And this is another thing that makes it insanely accidental. Yes. Jean Claude Van Dam was the original predator. Do you know this Ben? I did not. He was going to play the predator in the suit because they were like, oh, it'll be cool. He'll be agile. He'll like do kicks and shit. And when you hear the guys in the movie talk about it,

[01:16:21] like they talk about it like comes in here

[01:16:23] doing his fucking little gay kicks and shit

[01:16:25] and we're like,. And when you hear Winston in the in the if it bleeds Doc say I was really inspired and like by a picture of a Rastafarian warrior that was on a producer's wall and you go I'm

[01:17:40] sorry what's and that's what kicked him off. Again, everyone has a different story. How everyone breaks down the timeline of what happened. But basically, he signs onto the movie. He does not understand how invisible he will be physically in this role. Yeah. He doesn't even know he's got to cover his face. Right. So he thinks everyone will see it's me.

[01:19:00] And they're like, this is great because he moves really well.

[01:19:03] We'll have a performer in the suit who can move really well.

[01:19:06] He'll be able to do something really distinctive with it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

[01:20:21] I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

[01:20:24] I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

[01:20:27] I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I just like doing Coke in a sweet in Mexico with Joel Silver being like, I'm not writing fucking jokes for you. Him saying like the predator should be a kickboxer and like, I'm just like Joel Silver like robbing his home bus being like, he's not a kickboxer. John Clibane name supposedly said kiss my balls.

[01:21:40] Really? Everyone is just yelling at each other

[01:21:43] and like altering the queen.

[01:21:45] My bones.

[01:21:46] And then firing him and they're trying to like work through it. He's seven two. He obviously is Harry of Harry and the Henderson's. He's done some Star Trek's. He's a tall man who can wear a suit. A gentle giant, someone who everyone can move, who worked with him speaks so fucking highly. Very, very well regarded. Died tragically young. But if you have fucking tall. It happens to our giants.

[01:23:01] You know, we lose all of our best giants.

[01:23:03] He got a blood transf-like sense of terror. There are a lot of subtle things, arm and body movements that I threw in that will probably be missed because of the emphasis on the action.

[01:24:21] But if you look closely, you'll see some interesting little bits that give the predator

[01:24:25] a definite personality. like fixing that before the bad one ends up on camera. But also it's like if you have a guy who isn't giving as good of a performance in those final 10 minutes when he's visible and sort of like conveying that much physically and that much menace and moving on such a bizarre alien way, you're like, this doesn't become like an important part of pop culture.

[01:25:40] The predator has like a creature as an idea.

[01:25:43] He's the titular predator.

[01:25:45] And even just the close board. Stan Winston's on board, he'll come up with something, but it's not gonna be ready for a while. Along the jaws parallel, right? Bruce was fucking breaking down. So they had to figure out ways to shoot the movie without the shark in the shot. And that if Bruce is in the movie anymore, the movie sucks. Beyond that, it's 100 degrees all the time.

[01:27:00] They decide to shoot in West Coast of Mexico,

[01:27:04] which has a, what's the word, deciduous trees.

[01:27:07] All the leaves have leaf on the ground. And yeah, that's true. And like McTearnal says, like, look, I see the movie in my head when I, you know, I'm making it. I'm one of those guys, right? Yeah. So I think the extreme frustration of like,

[01:28:21] you don't understand it has to look like this.

[01:28:23] And they're like, well, I'm covered in ants right now.

[01:28:25] I'm doing my best, John.

[01:28:27] I'm not sure it's going to be like this, and it takes longer to explain it to the guy in order to draw it. So the only time I'll do storyboards is if it's effect shots, and they need some sort of visual reference to be able to budget it out. I rewound this to try to see if I can get the text clearly.

[01:29:42] And McTearnimble kind of go off on tangents,

[01:29:45] get distracted in the middle of the commentary.

[01:29:47] I think I don't relate to it all. So we have this giant camera and it's connected to an umbilical cord and we have to get it on a truck and it can only go four feet away from the truck and it takes like two days to get one shot but it'll actually measure the heat so we can get the genuine image of what you want. And they get there and because it's like 100 degrees in the desert the environment and the bodies are the same temperature.

[01:31:02] So they're like, we have a solution for this.

[01:31:04] Here's what we're gonna do.

[01:31:05] Before every shot we're gonna spray down the environment in the blue sky, like that's like in order to key it out. I think almost all the thermal vision then, they ended up doing and controlled like backlot environments because you see less of what's actually going on around it. So it also was able to like break it into a different units, but he basically just figured out the most low-fi way to do it. And then rather than getting approval from Fox,

[01:32:20] which they never would just brought it back to them,

[01:32:22] was like, look, I just did like 10% of it in the time.

[01:32:25] It took those guys to do 1% out of a weird quirk of how film processing was annoying. Yes. Like, there's a reason you would never do it again, but it looks so cool. It also tells us this problem that a lot of movies have when depicting invisibility where it's like, either you're showing me nothing. I'm looking at a blank screen, which is- Or I look at that footprints is usually one of the good words. Right. Or I'm looking at a translucent blue, spectary version of the character and you're like,

[01:33:43] well, then they're out of invisible.

[01:33:44] I can see them.

[01:33:45] Right.

[01:33:46] It's like, okay, so you've been shooting for 48 days. Their shooting schedule was 56 days. They shot less than half the movie. I pinned earlier. Exactly. So the big sequence where they blow up the guy,

[01:35:02] where they had the big attacks.

[01:35:03] This whole time because they still have is all done by a second unit team that he was obviously like overseeing. But all of those guys came from the A team. He was like, we need to hire TV guys who can work fast and just get this done. What's your job? I drive Jeeps into things that explode. A team? I've been doing that for years. I direct people falling out of towers. It's like the most A team shit ever. Because A team has that same GI Joe disease

[01:36:21] where no one ever dies.

[01:36:23] So you get people blown out of things

[01:36:25] as famously what they did.

[01:36:25] But this is like agee rig where all the weight was supported by like these cranes and the bungee like industrial like 400 foot bungee ropes.

[01:37:42] So there's one shot when he's running away on the rocks

[01:37:46] that he's like, that's the one shot

[01:37:47] where I got the fucking handshake, right? And you need it because it's the last moment where these guys are- It's what they're saying, John. Let's watch these guys kick ass for a minute. Right, which I think McTurnan is like so hyper conscious

[01:39:02] of not wanting to fall into the like America

[01:39:04] who rough ashes some shit.

[01:39:06] I'm coming from a war movie.

[01:39:06] Right. that it would have taken him six months just to get this sequence done. It helps to have this one sequence done by kind of junkier guys. I will say the shot when all of them are crawling in camo, you're like, that looks fucking awesome. It's like an overhead shot and Arnold Dutch is already there and everyone just kind of scurries up next to him.

[01:40:20] Yeah.

[01:40:21] And you're like, this fucking rules.

[01:40:23] The second Arnold's like, you guys guards, you guys tower.

[01:40:26] No one do anything until I blow the fuel pump. don't even really have a grasp of the geopolitics of the mission you're on. And they're just sort of fucking high-fiving each other. And then immediately it's like, guess what? You guys are fucking the middle of someone else's game. This predator's just doing this for no fucking- You guys were actual pawns. The thing that is going to kill you is just a bad- Right. Wrong place, wrong time. You were political pawns just to like get a job done.

[01:41:41] And we're being lied to.

[01:41:42] And now, by the way, you guys are the targets in someone else's fucking game.

[01:41:47] I love when in this sequence, but I will throw out the contractually sunny had to have a bodyguard Not to protect him but to protect other people from him. Do you know this man? This is real This is real the studio would only let him be in the movie if they hired a guy to make sure he didn't hurt anybody or like fuck

[01:43:00] anybody up

[01:43:00] All the guys like went out drinking in town like the people and the natives were magical. But there was also a war path of the X, man. Yes, that's true. And Thunderbird. And Thunderbird.

[01:44:20] The brothers, yeah.

[01:44:21] The proud stars.

[01:44:22] The proud stars.

[01:44:23] Yeah.

[01:44:24] I mean, look, there's a joke where a girl, a Blue Beetle sister is like, yo, I gotta take a dump. Can you watch the door? And I was like, this is so childish,

[01:45:41] but also grown up and a real understanding of comedy.

[01:45:45] Real specific characterization of that movie.

[01:45:47] Right, yeah.

[01:45:48] And George Lopez is right downstairs. The one that serves everything on pure ivory. Yeah, that's me. You opt for that extra leg room seat on the plane

[01:47:01] because your vacation starts now.

[01:47:03] I do do that also because I'm quite tall.

[01:47:05] Okay, well, that's a humble brag.

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[01:48:20] actual patients. I love it. And you can is like one of, he's a great, great actor, like who's always so arresting physically and like his eyes are amazing. And he's also more like one of the great black filmmakers like American history. Cause McTyrin went to AFI as well, is that correct?

[01:49:41] Yes.

[01:49:42] I think Bill Duke and he and Bill Duke overlapped

[01:49:46] or Bill Duke was a year his full proper name, and we're like, you know who's good in that fucking way? The Great Bill Duke. You know who they just cast on this thing? The Great Bill Duke. One of our biggest controversies was in that episode of the Predator episode on High and Mighty. We kept calling his character Duke, not Mac, and we had to like issue a formal apology.

[01:51:01] You're not calling Duke.

[01:51:03] Right? It makes sense.

[01:51:04] It's a G.I. Joe's.

[01:51:05] It's literally a G.I. Joe name.

[01:51:06] Yeah.

[01:51:07] But Mac is a second here. Cause I knew predator as iconography, right?

[01:52:21] And like alien versus predator.

[01:52:23] And then when I, until realize you're in a totally different film and the realities change. And now it's a horror movie that's getting plucked off one by one. The fundamental tension of this movie in development, in shooting

[01:53:42] all the way through editing is that McTearnham. Like, you know, which is cool. But they were suddenly like, this design rules, this shit's cutting together well. This actually might be a hit. This movie is like better than we thought it was going to be. Then we commissioned it to be. Like it's over delivering. Just to jump back to the Predator for a second, we said when he looks at things and he,

[01:55:01] they look at things in heat vision, it looks awesome.

[01:55:03] When you look at their cloaking,

[01:55:06] we didn't talk about the, shot in the dark. We were ready to rework it.

[01:56:21] It's fairly complex.

[01:56:23] It has not been set up earlier in the film.

[01:56:25] And you like, just go like cut in tight Arnold went out to a restaurant and got quote unquote, Montezuma's revenge. They call it Traveler's diarrhea in IMDB trivia, and I'm proud of them. Yeah. Ternan makes a point of saying, I think Montezuma's revenge is bullshit. I've shot other movies in Mexico since then. I now know how to do it. You like basically hire one restaurant

[01:57:40] to be your catering for the entire production,

[01:57:42] and you just control that restaurant.

[01:57:44] The only people who get diarrhea

[01:57:46] when they go to Mexico are tourists. look like a fucking stretch Armstrong doll. He looks like a fucking guy caked in mud. And especially in comparison to Kamana, it's like opens with him like holding the fucking tree trunk over his head. One of the best character introductions in the next movie. Absolutely. He just comes back chainsaw in one hand, tree trunk on his shoulder and he's like, my daughter, I hope no one kidnaps you today.

[01:59:00] Don't make tyranny.

[01:59:00] Insane sequence.

[01:59:01] McTyrin's like, I get it, that's cool.

[01:59:04] It works for that movie.

[01:59:05] We need to like set you up as more of a normal guy

[01:59:08] in this? Oh, yeah.

[02:00:20] Right, yeah.

[02:00:21] Them realizing that it won't attack them if they're unarmed.

[02:00:24] Like all these fun sort of like, it's a kind of rip from aliens too, right? No, no, what can we use? Bad language, no pulse rifles, no flame throwers, no blah, blah, blah, you know? And it's like, oh shit, we're back to bare bones, you know? Like swords only, like it's a golden eye slappers only. There, there are original plan was for the predators.

[02:01:41] The pawn should be slappers only.

[02:01:43] That's what they should announce.

[02:01:44] Wouldn't it be really fun if in the new bond,

[02:01:46] it's whoever it is. It's just straight out of Vaseline. Yeah. It's the toxic shit inside of glow sticks. It's awesome. It looks so fucking cool when you first see it on a leaf.

[02:03:01] Right.

[02:03:02] And we know aliens need like crazy colored blood like David said.

[02:03:05] But we also, for the It's like the movie itself is textually like basically an alien and a soldier fighting for who has could fall over the movie.

[02:04:20] And like the genre being dictated by

[02:04:22] who's winning the scene.

[02:04:24] What's your guys favorite death or kill

[02:04:27] either by our good guys or by the predators? fucking miniguns are like, they're ridiculous. They built it for him of like, we need to build the biggest gun possible that this guy could actually like wield. And then it was too heavy for him to like. It's so funny how much he likes that he has the big gun. Yeah. Like he in all the fucking behind the scenes stuff when he's talking, he's like, and of course they wanted to give me the biggest rifle because I have actual combat experience.

[02:05:43] He says in that if it pleads, which I think is really funny.

[02:05:45] Yeah.

[02:05:46] It's like, yeah, I'm having a good time. I just, you know, just doing that shit. He's like, you get up here on the tower, we'll do this. And like everything's all squared away. And then he just still just comes in, mercs people and they're like, okay, this motherfucker's in the trees now. Yeah. Yeah. Motherfucker's in the trees.

[02:07:00] Motherfucker's in the trees.

[02:07:02] Apparently Peter Cullen did the predator voice.

[02:07:04] Yeah. Off to his prime.

[02:07:06] Yeah.

[02:07:07] It's cool. human beings have more than meets the eye. What? I'm sorry. Like that fucking. Right, eight Chevy's like go for a sunset. Yeah, sorry, my big band masturbating and his trailer. Sorry, public transit. We are a car country. Is there a subway transformer? There should be one.

[02:08:20] Oh, man.

[02:08:20] They're fucking shit.

[02:08:21] He's got a British accent.

[02:08:22] It's the tube.

[02:08:24] Yeah.

[02:08:25] J-j-j-j-j-j-j.

[02:08:27] Look a synth version. It's funny. He is funny. He's a motherfucker. He's a comedy. You are one ugly motherfucker. The predator is basically always funny because unlike the Xenomorph, no disrespect, but there's intelligence to the predator. There's a strategy.

[02:09:40] Well, here's the thing.

[02:09:41] There's sort of what's this guy doing?

[02:09:42] Well, I'll say, I think what it is, is there's the status.

[02:09:46] The Xenomorph is just trying to survive.

[02:09:48] Correct. was like, it was a gift in disguise. I was like really annoyed by it at the time. It's why they put the spaceship at the beginning because they're like, we need some visual representation. And pray does the same thing too. It's pray is moved too. Like we landed. But it's so much better remaining in the woods, in the mud, all of that. But yes, like no, no. It's just what the fuck are you?

[02:11:00] And he's just like, I'm not gonna tell you.

[02:11:02] I'm gonna nuke myself instead, yeah.

[02:11:04] Which McTaren said is based off of a dream he had

[02:11:07] in high school that he has never gotten over that feels like personal and visceral to me. Well, he escapes a nuclear bomb. Yes, much like John McTearnand did in his teenage dream. Well, the Mad Magazine I have of Predator, which for some reason I own, I have like a big pile of old Mad Magazine. So that's the big gag at the end with like, how did you survive a nuclear bomb? And Arnold's like, I didn't, I skinned my knee. You know, like that's this joke at the end.

[02:12:20] He's like in a bet with radiation poisoning.

[02:12:23] Right.

[02:12:24] McTearnand Brax is about the fact

[02:12:26] that no one got injured on this movie. and he's coming out of the water and you see it on Dutch's face. He's luckily covered in mud and doesn't know about it yet. But you see on his face, he's like, all right, fuck it. Kill me dude. I'm not running anymore. You fucking cycle. You just jumped off that waterfall to hunt me. Damn. Such a crazy shot. It's a cool shot. Yeah. I mean, he just also looks like when when he's in the smoking gets hit and then the forest lightning is kind of thrown around a little.

[02:13:42] When he's in the mud, it feels like his eyes are glowing.

[02:13:44] Yeah.

[02:13:45] He's got perfect eyes for that.

[02:13:46] Oh, yeah.

[02:13:47] Yeah.

[02:14:40] when I remember going to school. Is it Encino Woman?

[02:14:42] Like what is this?

[02:14:43] I'm being like, okay, look, I know this movie

[02:14:44] and came out five years ago.

[02:14:45] Maybe they would have made a sequel by now already

[02:14:47] if they were ever going to,

[02:14:48] but he's naked at the beginning of the movie.

[02:14:51] So by transitive rules.

[02:14:53] Right, demand.

[02:14:55] The beginning of the second movie

[02:14:56] would have boobs on camera.

[02:14:58] Let's go to the video store.

[02:14:59] Now, change.org didn't exist.

[02:15:02] There was nothing I could do to whittle it into existence.

[02:15:06] No, you know what? This guy just has so much fucking integrity, incredibly on screen and so much fucking confidence. Yeah, if he shows up and he's like, I am your leader. You're like, yeah, I'm in. Can you just take off your undershirt but then put your vest back on? And he's like, you got it brother, Dylan, you too.

[02:16:20] Billy, yeah, don't worry chief,

[02:16:22] I'm already open ready to cut my chest up.

[02:16:23] That shit when I was a kid, I thought it was the coolest shit.

[02:16:25] But it also broke my heart because I was like,

[02:16:28] I truly believe I was a kid. that isn't quite acting. It's like visual music is the term he uses. And he's like all of filmmaking is like visual music. And like acting on camera is more about like conveying some feeling than it is like communicating a specific like characterization in certain ways. And he said, it's a reason why I love in a lot of my movies to have characters

[02:17:44] who speak in foreign languages and not subtitle them.

[02:18:43] but it feels like he feels so elevated. He brings it's like having one guy in the band

[02:18:46] who could solo really well.

[02:18:48] It's like, let's let Bill Duke, we'll roll on him.

[02:18:50] We got the rights of this song, he'll be fucking weird.

[02:18:53] And it's like, I'm in, I'm on fucking board.

[02:18:56] His death is heartbreaking.

[02:18:58] It's the saddest one,

[02:18:59] because he's the one that has some sort of deeper pathos

[02:19:03] you feel.

[02:19:04] And then you have this ending where it's funny I don't care if the movie is a Hungarian art movie about leprosy. I want actors giving a thumbs up to the camera with their character names under you. Can I tell you the fucking mind blower? This is the very end of the commentary, obviously. McTearnid drops this. And I literally, I thought I was having a disassociative episode because this is what I would write.

[02:20:20] This is what I would force into existence.

[02:20:22] And I can't believe I didn't know this and had never known this unless I had forgotten

[02:20:26] it. fucking name drops Brewster McCloud. Wow. Oh shit. Never would have guessed that. Never would have guessed that. One of the most bizarre left-handed movies ever, the movie Robert Almond makes after Mash, and his crazy blank check that goes down in flames that I made Ben and David see a couple years ago. It's your movie. It's the metric I love.

[02:21:40] It's weird.

[02:21:41] It's weird.

[02:21:41] It's weird.

[02:21:42] I believe it.

[02:21:43] It's Griffin's favorite as well.

[02:21:44] Yeah, it's some normal shit.

[02:21:46] But most of the characters in that movie die I want you to know we had fun time making this movie. But I've been trying to find out why I didn't actually die. Don't worry. It's all pretend the predator's not real. I swear to God. They should let the predator do a final. I really picked up on this viewing that this, I think the film predator explained to me what movies are.

[02:23:00] Like I feel like I was so obsessed with this movie.

[02:23:02] Like in my head, every movie should end

[02:23:04] with that credit sequence.

[02:23:06] Every movie should have like big buff guys

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[02:26:42] where people were like, huh, this is actually better than it should be.

[02:26:43] Yeah, those movies are highly intense.

[02:26:45] Those are a little richer than a far core.

[02:26:46] Right, whereas this is, you know,

[02:26:48] you aren't even versus a worker.

[02:26:49] They're confused on those two movies.

[02:26:51] This is a fucking cheeseburger.

[02:26:52] Yeah, and we're previously talking about mistakes.

[02:26:54] That's the greatest fucking cheeseburger.

[02:26:56] Sometimes you wanna fucking cheeseburger.

[02:26:58] Most of the time you don't need a steak.

[02:27:00] Michael Wilmington in the Los Angeles Times says

[02:27:03] that the script is arguably one of the emptiest

[02:27:05] feebless, most derivative scripts ever made

[02:27:07] as a movie in the bell curve when that movie came out in terms of like Schwarzenegger's legacy and he just left office maybe. Right. Because now he's doing the, I feel like we can get, I mean, we are getting like triplets, right? Is that one of the rumors? Well, that's still like a bit. That's a long rumor.

[02:28:21] Yeah.

[02:28:21] The ready Murphy's gonna play the third genetic brother.

[02:28:23] It's just being written by Josh Gad at a certain point.

[02:28:26] Hell fucking yeah. But yeah, the movies are.

[02:29:40] But if he came back, I mean, I don't know.

[02:29:41] As much as we're saying, the model for Predator is prey,

[02:29:45] and they should just keep doing that.

[02:29:46] If they could find the right need to bring extra trails into this. No, he's right. And that movie, and Arnold makes even less sense than Danny Glover. No, it's kind of like the best. The best, the best, the best, the best, the best thing that movie has going for it is like, oh, Glover's kind of interesting to place at the center of this.

[02:31:01] Right.

[02:31:02] He's giving a very different type of performance.

[02:31:03] It's a very different type of hero.

[02:31:04] If it were that same story with Arnold Ford's vinegar playing Dutch again.

[02:31:08] Yeah. Oh, is it witches of Eastwood? The witches of Eastwood. Opening to a fairly helping nine million. What a fucking weekend. This guy asked distributor and I thought about the year and I synced in on it's probably a George Miller if it's Warner Brothers and we've covered it from this time period. That was the only clue I needed. I was one fucking weekend predator.

[02:32:21] And we, it used to be, you know, let's make,

[02:32:24] let's make America great again, folks.

[02:32:26] I'm gonna put this forward.

[02:32:27] Was this the original Barb and Himer weekend? Radioactive director. I think I know what it is. What do you think it is? Is it Beverly Hills cop too? That's correct. Oh Again, can I read and I'm gonna insist on Tony Scott, but Very there's the door very very good poll. Hey, I have to say just repeat myself. Yeah, what a fucking week

[02:33:42] Oh, I'm imagine that mark key just wait wait his. Yeah. Who's who, who does she collaborate with? De Palma. Yeah. So it's a brand De Palma movie. And it's an, is it untouchables? The untouchables. There we go. There we go. Holy shit. I mean, like wardrobe, wardrobe by Georgio Armani. Fucking hell. That movie, that's another one. That's one of the iconic fucking credit when it just says

[02:35:03] wardrobe by Georgio Armani.

[02:35:04] I said this before on the podcast, but you read the reviews of that film

[02:36:01] two fucking shorts and acres. Two Bruce.

[02:36:03] A banderez.

[02:36:04] A banderez.

[02:36:05] A banderez.

[02:36:06] A banderez.

[02:36:07] A banderez.

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[02:36:29] A banderez. Blanker. No, it's got a really boring name. It's a, it's a called Danger Zone. No man's land. It's got Robert Loge in it. And I bet he doesn't like that cult one bit. Lieutenant Sean McTaggart, the name of his character. Does it have a sort of off the shelf title that could apply to 20 movies? Okay. It's called The Believers. Oh yeah.

[02:37:40] Yeah, that was gonna never get that.

[02:37:41] You've also got Harry and the Henderson's

[02:37:43] if you wanna see Predator in another role.

[02:37:45] Talk about Big Hall Weekend.

[02:37:46] Seriously, you've got Ernest. I don't really know. Okay. The cover of the movie, the poster is a garbage bag, like with millions of dollars in it, but was there like a tie in contest where people could win money? I feel like there's some movie that do you know, De Laurentiis can see to the idea dealing to the Laurentiis, a man who always put hard over commerce. When he visited New York and

[02:39:05] saw row of people lining up for what he thought was a movie, but it turns out they were buying So three things, this is like the real coupon the movie. Right. It's garbage bag of the movie. It's about garbage bags. Two. Man, that's like a spinal tap level reviews you could write about this. Two, it says the winner of the contest ended up being a 14 year old girl who successfully

[02:40:22] guessed that the loot was hidden on the bridge of the nose of the Statue of Liberty.

[02:40:28] Okay. for just talking trash about him and being like, I will never ever do some movie that you started. I hate to, you're not the movie star. Nothing makes Arnold feel better than the fact that he blew past you. He literally fucking laps around. You know, tell the law. This is grave. Oh, good for him. Good for him. He outlived him. We're done. Predator. Oh man, holy shit.

[02:41:40] We can't wait to watch it.

[02:41:41] I'm gonna ask that episode.

[02:41:42] Again.

[02:41:42] It's Predator.

[02:41:44] I downloaded it to my iPad to watch.

[02:41:46] You came here this morning times I'm a teenager. And it was like kind of a real gateway action movie for me where I was this is what I fucking wanted a movie is like what you're saying. And had the DVD, the two discs that had the if it bleeds all special features I watched

[02:43:03] obsessively.

[02:43:04] I put this on last night and I was like, have I not seen this movie in the mud. I've never seen the ship before so I look incredible. That's a beautiful movie rule shout out on the Company. I'm so honored to be here guys I can't believe this is my fifth fucking time and it's like talking about one of my favorite movies Well, you know, it's just too bad that he had to follow this up with oh, I'm seeing die hard in the hunt for red

[02:44:20] October or his two followers to this film what a fucking

[02:45:21] in common with the predator. Like different approaches to murder.

[02:45:22] Different approaches to murder.

[02:45:24] Sometimes he's a shuriken guy,

[02:45:25] sometimes he's a whip guy.

[02:45:27] He's designed his own look, I'm sure.

[02:45:29] He's, I mean, he's got a look.

[02:45:31] I would say this, we didn't really talk about his fashion,

[02:45:35] the predator.

[02:45:35] Yeah, we didn't.

[02:45:36] We didn't.

[02:45:37] How could we not?

[02:45:38] Obviously invisible for much of the time.

[02:45:39] Well, he's right, but when you get to see it,

[02:45:42] what a killer fucking fit.

[02:45:44] Fishnets and armor.

[02:45:46] Fishnets and armor.

[02:45:47] Helmet. I love when he fucking echoes back. Yeah. You're one ugly motherfucker. What the fuck are you? And he's like gargled. Our dark rock. Our dark rock. We're all. I'm so fucking hung over. You did great, Capra. You guys are the fucking best. You're the best. You're the best. Thank you for coming. Action boys, everyone should be coming to the editor. Yeah, actionboys.biz.

[02:47:01] And if you're just want to sniff, you can go to free.actionboys.biz where we have like

[02:47:05] 10 of our episodes that are out from the paywall.

[02:47:08] So maybe you get sword my way. I like barbecue shawsh. Bye, David. Bye, David. David has gone to the bathroom and shoved his own head in the toilet. Came out in a Superman out there. That's so fast.

[02:48:23] Thank you all for listening. Please remember to rate, review, and subscribe. If you're still here Ben and I are going to talk for an hour about the predator's hair like when the action guys go like That's always sick. Yeah, we just have like a full child conversation in a sandbox

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