Ralph Breaks the Internet

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[00:01:08] Ben Breaks the podcast So yeah, I guess I'll introduce my guests So you know there's Griffin Newman Hi everybody I'm the co-host of Blank Check with Griffin and David Of course from CBS Oh you were on Blue Bloods? My grandparents love that show

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[00:02:14] Uh fuck I've heard this so many times Yeah but doesn't apply to this episode Today you're just gonna wreck it Oh okay fine You're breaking the format Alright well then let's get into it Wearing up his sleeves So I saw Wreck-It Ralph one night late by myself

[00:02:28] And I texted these boys When was this like a couple years ago? This was like a year ago It was maybe about 2.30 in the morning Yeah I had just finally seen Wreck-It Ralph You were watching it as you were texting us drunk Yeah yeah yeah

[00:02:39] And it made me cry really hard And I just had such a moment Why were you watching it do you remember? Sad, just sad and I needed something in my life to entertain me The vibe I got from it at the time was that like

[00:02:55] Your girlfriend at the time was sleeping And it was 3 o'clock in the morning And you were drunk and sad watching a movie by yourself Yep yep yep Right That's the scene Right and you were getting very emotional You were in love with the film

[00:03:09] And you were borderline hostile towards David and I For not telling you to watch the movies I was mad It was like you were furious at the like Because it's my origin story I'm like Wreck-It Ralph is basically my story Okay so let's unpack this Okay great

[00:03:26] You have to unpack it We cannot pack it Then he keeps forgetting he's the host of the show He's the host Alright so I am a trash boy You're a trash boy Yes you're from Ditchland I'm from a ditch world You grew up in a pile of bricks

[00:03:40] Pretty much Honestly Really I feel like this is slanderous to your poor parents Who probably provided you with a nice enough home And then such right They did their best And you're always trying to paint Your upbringing Like fucking thunder dome or whatever

[00:03:59] And was a garbage pail cane Two beds Ben's father will never come on the show to defend himself Wink a wink a Wink a wink a Anyway go on continue unpacking So I um yeah I just was like a bad kid

[00:04:13] And I very much like kind of fell into that identity I think you know of like sort of like I'm a bad guy They viewed you as a scumbum so you played into it Yeah Much like room

[00:04:29] And then at some point I made a few friends along the way Okay Met some I left New Jersey you know left that in the The dust You stepped into a different game I did and all of a sudden I realized

[00:04:43] Wow people are nice and the world's kind of cool You can have friends So this thing like resonated hard with you Oh man yeah You wouldn't stop talking about it And then we were like you know there's a sequel And your mind literally exploded

[00:04:58] Like the original garbage pail kid Adam Baum Yeah right So then since then we sort of had this notion on the books Let's do a Ralph episode let's make it a Ben's choice We've been doing so many families choices And we had a Paul Sheer choice

[00:05:12] We haven't had proper Ben's choice in over all Probably when was the last one Man Who too little I think Uh Clifford Clifford yes Oh yeah yeah yeah It was about a year ago And so we decided to let Ben wreck it

[00:05:27] King Ralph is still on the books We replaced one Ralph with another Ralph Yeah But the thing that's been sort of hanging over this is All the Ralph Bricks internet trailers are coming out And all of us were like loosening our collar a little bit

[00:05:40] Going like it looks a little emoji movie And we've said this on the podcast We're a little worried about that new one And Ben the whole time was steadfast Ralph rules It's gonna be great It's gonna be good I definitely was of the mindset

[00:05:54] Like with the princess thing especially Right They may just not have had enough here And they sort of went all in on the random sort of shit Just to get some I was like shaking my hand and going like I don't know

[00:06:08] And you were going like it looks bad It's gonna be bad Like you seemed pretty certain it was gonna be A slapdash sequel The after seeing the trailer Yes Before seeing the trailer I was sort of like Who knows You look at how people even open

[00:06:22] I like the first one so much After seeing the trailer Very worried Family guy level No plot mostly random shit With the internet as like a vehicle for that Right Well and Rich Moore was like One of the main directors on Futurama Sure

[00:06:41] Directed many of his best episodes That's sort of his like big pedigree Before Disney sort of poacherman brought him in And it was a really cool move Because he like did A lot of the best most emotional episodes Of Futurama that had this great balance

[00:06:53] Of like per minute joke ratio He worked on The Simpsons Yes He worked on Mighty Mouse Back in the day He worked on The Critic Mighty Mouse is one of those weird shows Where like most A lot of cool people came out of it

[00:07:06] Andri Stanton came out of it Like a lot of people who redefined The next 20 years of animation Before Pixar had gotten up and running And Disney had been revitalized Were on Mighty Mouse Right But yes no I mean he worked on A Lot of The Simpsons

[00:07:20] He moved over to Futurama His episodes of Futurama Just had a very distinct flavor to him He did Roswell that ends well Which is the one that won the Emmy I believe he did Jurassic Park The one with Fry's dog

[00:07:31] That everyone always like memes about how sad it is Might done Luck of the Fryrish Which is my favorite episode I don't think he did the two you're talking about He did do Roswell that ends well Did he not do the dog one?

[00:07:40] Jurassic Park is such a good episode I can't watch it Let's find out I think he did the dog one Maybe not Luck of the Fryrish No No, it's Swinton O. Scott And then Luck Because you just named the three most famous Futurama episodes Yes

[00:07:53] But he only did one He did the one that won the Emmy Yeah, Luck of the Fryrish was an Emmy At least a winner I think Roswell that ends well Yes Seeing the Ralph Breaks the internet trailer There's a massive difference between Family Guy and Futurama

[00:08:12] You see the trailer You go this might just become a gag machine This might just be a guy who's got a TV comedy background There are a lot of things they can pull from Is it just going to be a mapping game

[00:08:23] Of what if this was like this What would the dark web look like And then also the other thing was that The trailers were so heavy on the Disney IP Which I just have no patience for Griffin smiling I think it's well done in this movie

[00:08:39] Oh, okay, we'll talk about it That's the stuff I just had to know There's a massive difference between taking up Six minutes of a two hour movie Versus taking up one minute of a three minute trailer When you saw the three minute trailer Mostly the princesses

[00:08:52] You were like, what is this thing I mean I understand Especially having seen it now Like you know You want to sell your tickets Yeah Emphasize these very These things people are going to like Disney, everyone knows Disney Everyone's ready for People like Crossover Self-referential humor

[00:09:09] They love Crossover shit They love Self-referential humor Deadpool knows these in a movie And I want to make it very clear I just want to restate very quickly We're not hosting this episode Ben's hosting this episode We're just doing a little context corner Oh yeah, this and that

[00:09:20] I'll say I didn't even watch the trailer All I needed to know is that Breaks was in the title Yeah And I was sold And Ralph was in the movie And Ralph was in the movie Right You'll see any movie with Ralph Above or in the title 100% Yeah

[00:09:35] King Ralph Wreck it Ralph Ralph Breaks the Internet Your three favorite film Yep D23 Which is like the crazy Disney fan club convention thing Disney has started pulling a lot of their shit From like Comic-Con and the traditional channels And doing big Star Wars panels

[00:09:53] And Marvel panels and announcements At D23 Which they do like Annually or every other year In different places Why is it called D23? Because I think 23 is the year Of the first Mickey Mouse short I think it's 1923 Something was Happened in 23

[00:10:08] It's just the year he founded the company Okay, thank you Do you think that That meetup is like Just full of creeps I've seen things from it I mean it's a wide array of people Because you have like hardcore Disney fans Who generally aren't creeps

[00:10:23] They're people who are just like I like nice things Okay I like when things are comfortable You know Sure Like a lot of the theme park people Are like just very nice people And I don't say this disparagingly Because I love theme parks

[00:10:35] And I care more about Disney Than most average people Right Sure But the people who are like You're not alone in that There are millions of you Right But I'd say the hard hardcore Disney proper people Are the people who are like I like nice comforting things

[00:10:50] Disney has amazing quality control You know Sure Their stuff is just like Very like even when it's bad It's got the Disney vibe Yeah Which is the exact thing that Like drove me crazy about working at The Disney store Humble Brack Right And so they're those people

[00:11:06] But now they've wrote Like the Marvel people in Oh yeah And the Star Wars people Sure And then you also have people who are like I'm just a Pixar fan I'm just a theme park fan Right And then you have musicals Like they're all these different cross sections

[00:11:18] So they've tried to make it Like this one club where you like pay Whatever it is Like $40 a year And you get like some exclusive stuff And then you get to go to this convention And it's a Bully base Of all the Disney stuff Wow

[00:11:31] Like here are the old vintage ride vehicles On the floor And Dick Van Dyke is getting an award But also like Tom Hiddleston's Doing a Q&A Like it's like all of it And the last one of these That they did maybe like 18 months ago They were like

[00:11:43] We're screening the first ever footage From Wreck-It Ralph 2 Which I think at that time Was still just called Wreck-It Ralph 2 Yeah, because it initially was definitely Going to be called that With the subtitle Wreck-It Ralph 2 Right It was like maybe first announces Wreck-It Ralph 2 Then it was like

[00:11:56] Wreck-It Ralph 2 Wreck-It Ralph 2 Ralph Breaks the Internet Then it became Wreck-It Ralph 2 Wreck-It Ralph 2 And then they dropped it Which is this weird thing now Where studios don't want numerals In their titles Because they don't want it to look Like the title

[00:12:10] The franchise is getting long in the tooth Actually, I think SEO is a huge part of that Which is crazy But I think almost certainly true You want a new title Because people Google Wreck-It Ralph They're going to get the old thing Yes

[00:12:22] But the beginning of that was like The first time I remember being like That's weird Was Ice Age 2 Very shortly before a camp Being like Never mind it's called Ice Age 2 The Meltdown And then all those movies Become like Blank Colon Subtitle

[00:12:36] Or like here's just a different title And they largely avoid The twos and the threes So this title transforms That for me was a little bit of a red flag Where I'm like Are these trying so hard to just sell it as Like it's internet the movie

[00:12:50] Is it getting away from the Ralph thing All the stuff that's set up in the original That I like They do this screening Of early footage of D23 And they show the princess scene Which was like the first scene completed And unsurprisingly

[00:13:02] The thing fucking kills at this Disney convention Right Which of course Whenever you hear something's killing a D23 You're not like Oh, it's definitely good Right And then they were like Here's one small scene in our movie that's fun Then the internet exploded

[00:13:16] Because of all these Disney bloggers And then I think they started Like really putting that front and center For all the marketing Which then scared some people Like you and I being like We just want to see more about Ralph and Vanellope Right

[00:13:27] Don't give me too much princess shit Right But the movie comes out And critics love it And Bill Gebirry says it's a masterpiece I saw it with It started the press screening Richard Lawson was sitting behind me Friend of the show This is Ralph Breaks the internet

[00:13:43] Talking about here And we were sort of Amably chatting before the screening Right And then after Like the second the credits start rolling Richard dashes out of his seat And I was so surprised Because the PR person Disney's The lovely Courtney Had been very specific

[00:14:00] As she gave me the ticket I stayed post credits Because there's stuff They'd like to alert you Like there's going to be a post credit thing Okay So I was like I guess Richard doesn't want to see the post credits thing And then he told me

[00:14:12] And I think he tweeted He ran away because his eyes were so filled with tears That he could not face Really Everyone He was like I'm just going to get out of here Specifically like the very ending of the movie Got him or did it Bill

[00:14:25] I think the friendship thing I mean I don't know You'd have to ask him in turn But like yeah The final sort of You know soft goodbye that they have Where it's like We're not going to see much of each other anymore You know not to spoil it

[00:14:36] Ben's getting a little worse Ben is looking away from Not making eye contact with me Fuck Yeah It gets me too So the development of this movie is A little weird Disney like When they were in the Late 90s I guess more of the early 2000s

[00:14:57] Like Pixar has gotten so big Then Dreamworks is starting to get so big And they were starting to have Dimension Returns on The classically animated Disney films They moved away from the princess musicals Because They were like we got to get boys We got to get boys

[00:15:11] Boys don't like Disney And like movies like Princess and the Frog Or Tangled wouldn't do maybe as well as they hoped Well maybe this is even before that I'm talking before this I'm talking like 2000 to 2006 Essentially When it's like Oh let's make these boys action movies Treasure Planet

[00:15:28] And they do Treasure Planet They do Atlantis These things underperform Then they do these weird sort of Oh let's try CGI Let's do like chicken little These movies are all like really expensive They suck and they have no shelf life Right Chicken little

[00:15:41] Treasure Planet and Atlantis are kind of interesting Treasure Planet has its fans But at this point Disney feature animation Doesn't have much direction And Pixar is kind of running the table on them Pixar hasn't been bought fully by Disney yet They're trying to make their own CGI films

[00:15:57] They don't want to do it And they're accepting a lot of modern pitches And they're like Fuck the old Disney model of like A classic tale with a new spin We're just doing new shit Developing it from the ground up Modern Trekkie modern shit

[00:16:09] And there's a pitch they buy Or perhaps it's developed in-house That's called Joe Jump Which then becomes Reboot Ralph Which is let's make a movie in a video game That seems like a thing that kids want 8-bit video game movie Right Like that's the joke

[00:16:23] Right it's like Roger Rabbit Yeah, Toy Story But in the arcade What if the thing you think of as inanimate Was inanimate Right And no one ever really cracks it I remember Anne Hathaway was announced to be in it And someone else was announced to be in it

[00:16:39] I kept on going through these name changes Director change, writer change It was kind of like Hotel Transylvania Kind of find any like Where it was like Video game movie that sounds marketable The thing set inside an 8-bit game That sounds big

[00:16:51] And no one ever had a story for it That really worked And they kept on resetting it Rebooting it No pun intended I feel like at one point Gary Ross was writing it Weirdly I could see that because didn't he write The Little Mouse movie Yes he did

[00:17:05] The little cartoon mouse with the sword Taylor Despero Taylor Despero Yes So it started just like bouncing around This and that And then when John Lasseter Lots of Hug and Bear himself Takes over Disney animation And starts like supplanting You know like All their traditional methods

[00:17:22] And being like this has to be A proper studio again He poaches Richmore And he's like here's a guy who Previously was seen as a little too edgy for Disney This is the kind of guy we need in the studio And Richmore sort of becomes

[00:17:35] The big in-house Disney studios guy Tangled was very successful But cost a crazy amount of money Because they had been developing it For like 15 years But was a big hit And starts this new modern wave Of like Tangled obviously Then Ralph the following year Then Frozen is

[00:17:50] The biggest movie of all time And then this incredible Like run that Disney animation's been on Moana Moana Make way Big Hero 6 They went a bunch of Oscars They've had a more successful track record Than Pixar in terms of Oscars Over the last decade I would agree And

[00:18:11] I think the Pixar might have still made Like The best movie in those 10 years You know what I mean The number one best I agree Yeah, like but I think that Disney In general is a little more consistent Than Pixar I would agree with that

[00:18:23] And also feels more original And they've done an interesting balance Of like things like Ralph That feel like very modern And things like Frozen That feel very throwbacky And there's a nice like you know But Disney has Nothing Disney has only ever made One theatrically released and produced

[00:18:42] Sequel to an animated film ever And it's something completely weird The rescuer is down under Right Have you seen the rescuer is down under? No You know those two little Nice married couple No Come on Bob Newhart And Eva Gabor I think Is that right?

[00:18:59] I believe that's who the two of them are And they're nice little mice And they solve mystery In the first one they solve a regular mystery And the second one to go down under The second one is like we're going to give it to you

[00:19:07] What you've always wanted They're going to go down under It was the post Crocodile Dundee Up backstage house It's like 14 years later Yes They were like we're doing a sequel And everyone was like oh here comes Fucking Sleeping Beauty too And it's like the rescuers Down under

[00:19:23] Very odd So that was like when Katzenberg and Eisner took over They were like we should be milking our properties We should be using the brands that we already have Value let's make a sequel to a theatrical Disney animated film And they were like all these other movies

[00:19:37] Literally end with And they lived happily ever after Right Like which of these actually is still kind of open-ended And they were like we're going to make two sequels It's the rescuers down under And Mary Poppins too And Mary Poppins too Took an additional 30 years to happen

[00:19:51] Rescuers down under happened It underperformed And then right around that time the Disney Renaissance happens And all the new movies are so great And they abandon the sequel thing Disney Toons is developed Which is the company that does all the VHS, DVD, Direct to

[00:20:03] You know return to Jafar A couple of those end up getting released theatrically Like Jungle Book 2 And Return to Neverland But those aren't meant to be theatrical films They're just like why don't we put it in theaters This is the first since The rescuers down under

[00:20:17] So it seems like Sorry I made sequels but right It seems like DreamWorks has made too many sequels But it was seen as a big deal that Disney was like Gonna allow a big theatrical sequel And Ralph seemed like there's a lot of stuff still on the table

[00:20:30] Video games it's a big world They've stayed mostly within an arcade world They had always been like You know they could hook it up to wifi You could get online gaming And Ralph and Penelope Could end up on consoles And everyone's like That's clearly the premise of two

[00:20:44] And then they announced two And it's like they go into the internet Proper And I was just like Genuinely because I was so invested In the way that the world worked in the first one You love the world building in the first one I do

[00:20:56] I was just like How would they get to the internet And then the trailer's like They get a router And I'm like That's it that's the whole He's like yeah It is kind of incredible And like I love the audacity You got a router Yeah

[00:21:08] That's how the internet works I didn't think that's it The audacity And the confidence Of the Wreck-It Ralph universe to be like Yeah it's a search protector It's a power strip And all the devices Like they're just like Oh that's how you travel from one thing to another

[00:21:25] It's great The world building is both movies Is so clean And precise It's really sharp You get it fast And it doesn't have to do too much Of like this is this person This is this person And Ready Player One It's incredible Comparing to League

[00:21:37] That's the first thing Ben said When the movie ended Was that's so much better Than Ready Player One It's so clunky Yeah And just they spend so much time Explaining things This is a movie where it's like This is how you do opening narration

[00:21:50] Like when people go like Opening narration Kind of sweaty If you have to set up the rules But like the narration In the first one is just like It's funny It's well written Ralph is engaging You actually get character It's not just an info dump

[00:22:01] And it's better to just be like Here's four minutes And we're explaining all the rules to you And now we can move on with our movie Right Also the characters are amalgamations Of like Donkey Kong It works so well And it was so great about that

[00:22:14] Is like I'm not a nerd So I don't need like the service Of like oh look He's got a mallet Cause you know it's like Donkey Kong I don't give a shit So I just love it Because it's like clean And you just right away

[00:22:28] Know what this character is about And like what his deal is It's also great that they pick Like three very very universal things That people who have never played A video game would know Which is like Ralph and Felix Are like Donkey Kong And Mario Right

[00:22:43] Sugar rushes like Mario Kart Combined with Candy Land Oh yeah And then like Heroes duty is like Halo Combined with like Metroid Sure And it's like here are three different types of games That everyone knows Yeah Even if you haven't played them You've seen a kid play them

[00:22:59] That tracking is really good But they make the characters their Own So it doesn't just feel like Oh this is like a parody of Yeah Like I love like the rules of Felix Where it's just like Your understanding of how the game

[00:23:12] Works is so strong and it looks fun Like it doesn't look like a Shitty fake movie game Right You're like the golden hammer thing Is great Yeah It looks like Did they ever make it Like could I play Wreck-It Ralph Here's my first merchandise

[00:23:25] Yeah I mean I assume Here's my first merchandise spotlight So they have as an app That's really good I played it a lot When the first movie came out And it's like it's just the game Dead on Okay It's perfect It's not like a shitty

[00:23:37] Like flash like fake thing It's like a proper It just looks the same It's like a game It's gonna download this out I hope they still have it Um There I believe when the movie was coming out They did set up at like Disney

[00:23:48] Like some proper like cabinets Like some cabinets Right There is now a product I was trying to get And in time for this episode Ben It sold out everywhere I'm trying to get a few years of Christmas present There is A company now That's making like little

[00:24:03] Mini like arcade cabinets So it's like Oh it's like a desk version Like this and hold out my hand It's like the size of a coffee cup But it's like Frogger, Pac-Man It's got the little controls You can play it properly And they made one of Fixit Felix

[00:24:15] So it's like a little desk Arcade cabinet With the proper full Fixit Felix game Oh my God It cost It cost like twenty dollars But sold out everywhere And the third market prices Are like through the roof on eBay Right so maybe it's just Rarity now Yeah

[00:24:29] I think they underproduced some Well hopefully they make more Yeah Cause this episode is gonna be so popular Huge Guys whoever Whoever Whatever that company is I love this I love that Adam Yeah Tell them to make more I want this And tell them to be a sponsor

[00:24:44] On this show And send Ben forty of them Send and I want a golden hammer too Yeah I just love the rules of the game But also the rules of the universe Of like the hammer fixes everything That scene of When they figure that out

[00:24:57] Of him hitting his own face Yes So good But it's nice that they're like Here are the individual rules Of our game That aren't just riffing on Mario Like here's We're adding different values And then in the first movie Basically like the two plot lines

[00:25:13] Are Felix and Ralph Right And they go off on their separate Kind of journeys But then the relationship they have That with Each form a new relationship With the female characters Is so Like it just It's like It makes me excited because

[00:25:27] It's like this is a movie for kids And it's like Great values Like great friends The romantic Like thing Of like The Felix being small And like her being the strong Like Like her ankle Or whatever It's so great Yeah I love that she loves him

[00:25:42] That it's not like The joke is that like He's like A idiot pussy Who's like in love with this big Tough girl and she's like Get away from me cook You know Which you could Easily imagine Jane Lynch saying in a PG Disney film But no

[00:25:57] They're two very nice relationships And the movie is really about Like identity Which I like Like the thing that you realize Watching Bricks the E. Internet is like Oh that's the thing they've latched on to more than anything Is like this series is about like identity And insecurity

[00:26:13] In the modern world Absolutely How people see us How we want to be seen How much friendship matters in that regard Like how much People who accept you for who you are Our connections validate us Right you know In ways good and bad I mean

[00:26:26] Ralph Bricks the internet is Very interesting In what it is saying In my opinion Reckon Ralph Is More straightforward I get that Like you know We're going to talk about Yes there are a couple things That the first Reckon Ralph does That are very risky

[00:26:41] That I am very impressed by Like even like I watched it for like the third time last night Right And I remember When I went to see it Tasha Robinson Then at the Dissolve Had written a review Of Dissolve Where she compared it to Toy Story 2

[00:26:56] In terms of the tightness of its script then Which was An unfair thing for me to read Before seeing the movie Oh I see Are you saying you didn't like it When you first saw it? I did like it But my expectations were

[00:27:08] This will make me as happy As when I saw Toy Story 2 For the first time The happiest I have ever been In my entire life It was an unattainable goal It was actually A.B. Club It was that long ago Okay wow Jesus But it was Tasha right

[00:27:22] So I saw it I was like That's very good It's no one here As good as Toy Story 2 With these people talking about But no one else You're just going off with Tasha Correct But I have like With time really grown to Admire the audacity

[00:27:37] Of a couple of things That's pulling off One of which is And I think this movie Is very much of a piece Of monsters University in this like Teaching kids tough lessons That movies don't usually Want to talk about Which is like It sets up this narrative

[00:27:51] Where it's like Ralph has to prove That he's a good guy And you expect in a Classic movie way That he by the end of the film Will figure out how to Become the hero of his own game Right And the movie at the end goes like

[00:28:02] Everyone should just Like it's good to be The best version of who you are Play to your strengths Right You think it's going to be You should just be yourself And that's what's most important Or whatever Like the classic Disney message And instead it's more like Look

[00:28:16] Not everyone is going to Be good at everything Which is the same thing that Monsters University does That I think is really audacious You and your fucking Monsters fucking university They're not staying Your lane movies Like they're not like Fuck you That comes late

[00:28:28] That comes after this anyway Handicap your ambitions Sure But they're movies about Like understanding who you are And society and Yeah, exactly And accepting yourself is What matters Not being yourself That makes sense There is a difference Ralph's like Mantra Which he comes to believe At the end

[00:28:44] The thing they say in the Like villain and non-support group Is that like You know I am bad And that's good I'm not good And that's not bad You know that thing is Like really kind of touching And then the other thing Is I think the thing

[00:28:55] They pull with vanilla pee Where I remember the first time I was like In no way sniffing out King Candy as the bad guy's Spoilers And when he gives The big explanation to Ralph About like why she can't win And why she can't play

[00:29:09] I was like this is a genuinely Compelling turn in the movie Right That the guy you kind of Think is the bad guy Right Turns out to be the one Who's presenting the like Catch 22 The movie is centered around And you realize He's a fucking heal Sure

[00:29:25] He's the one who's trying To force people into boxes Yes But he is also just trying to Outrun death Right Which is interesting There's not a lot of Disney villains I would say that is their primary motivation Yeah Like their primary motivation His secondary motivation is Pride dream

[00:29:43] Is the pride and also Like many a villain Control like global domination Right he wants to be The king of the sugar rush Yes But his primary motivation Is that his game got unplugged Right And he doesn't want to be dead Yes You know Right

[00:30:00] I mean I guess he could live in like The power strip forever Yeah but who wants that It doesn't seem like a good life Right do they have to eat Because sometimes he feeds Cuba But like does Cuba need to eat There are certain questions I still have

[00:30:12] Alan Tudik's performance as Turbo and King Candy is unbelievable In the first movie But also David just quick correction He said he's trying to Outrun death And in fact he's trying to Out race Okay well should we talk about the plot Yeah

[00:30:30] I think we gotta finish the episode right there Right But the other thing I like is that Vanellope like the whole glitch thing They don't make it like And here she's gonna solve her glitch Uh yeah that is Which would feel a little ableist If they did that

[00:30:46] If it was like and she's gonna Conquer her impediment I don't know within the logic Of the movies universe Her glitch should go away Because it was only invented Because King Candy fucked with her code Right Uh it's good that right She's like but the glitch is cool

[00:31:03] Like the glitch is a cool thing Well and the And every game has a glitch The most like model and free to be You and me version Sort of reading of what the Messaging of these films is In my eyes is Anyone can be great

[00:31:18] By being the best version of themselves Not by fitting into society's notion Of what a great person is quote unquote Right I guess it has Some similarity to Ratatouille Yeah Where it's right like Not everyone can do everything But anyone can be great at

[00:31:35] Well that's not really yeah It's its own thing It's its own thing And it's not a bad thing if you have a glitch You don't need to be defined by your glitch But you also don't need to hide your glitch Yeah Which is another thing about this movie

[00:31:46] It's a big thing that you and Kanye West Have in common Both of you are into fashion Kanye West loves Wreck-It Ralph There's an interview with him from a couple years ago Where he starts screaming about Wreck-It Ralph And saying that I'm the glitch

[00:31:57] And no one understood me Right He like relates really hard to Vanellope Right And her glitchdom Glitchdom Yeah Yeah I relate to Vanellope 2 Yeah I kind of have a little bit of a glitch I don't know how I'm still here But that's what you're saying That's my glitch

[00:32:17] I made it It's your origin story right It really is Friendship saved you Yeah Alright Wreck-It Ralph So I'm hosting Yeah We're just taking us into the plot Let's take the steering wheel Did you all rewatch the first one? Yes Me too

[00:32:33] I've never seen it so I watched it with her She must have loved it Humble brag Humble brag And in fact thank you Ben For getting to that first one Did you watch it with your gals? I did not No humble brag for you then Nope

[00:32:43] She hasn't seen either And Ben and I were hanging out with her Right after we'd seen the movie And she got really hyped up By how into it Ben was And I was like You're gonna wanna watch the first one Oh for sure I don't really know

[00:32:54] Hold your horses You're gonna wanna watch the first one I don't know that the second one lands as hard Well I guess it might You need the backstory I think you do You need the backstory because This is like This is like a friendship Yes

[00:33:06] But like you need It's like hyper friendship now I forgot how antagonistic they are Towards each other in the first one Cause the second one they start out being like Like the fucking best buddies of the world Yeah They start at two They're like Scooby and Shaggy

[00:33:22] So you kinda need to know Like what's touching about that Is how far they've come Right Okay Plot time Here he goes So Ralph is a villain In this game And he pretty much just introduces the world There's this He's the Donkey Kong type of

[00:33:42] He's the Donkey Kong His game is essentially just sort of Look at the racket He's got a racket He's his job He wrecks the building He's at the top like Donkey Kong And then little Felix He has a golden hammer As we've talked about He fixes stuff

[00:33:56] I'm gonna fix it That was not good That was No good That was bad Do you wanna try again? Liz Lemon No I can't do it Nevermind go on Okay And then there's some people that live in the building The nice landers The nice landers

[00:34:10] And it's just you know A very simple basic sort of world That he lives in And he's living in trash He's living on a pile of bricks They don't invite him inside He never gets a medal He doesn't get any support No one cares

[00:34:25] And so Ralph is kind of upset about that Yeah So that's the beginning of the movie He's sick of it He's been doing it for 30 years It's the anniversary It's the 30 anniversary They don't invite him to the party So there's that milestone

[00:34:36] They don't invite him to the party I've been there The little Wait, wait, he's been there The little like house people What do you call them The nice landers They live in the nice landers apartment complex Their animation is so incredible I was about to say

[00:34:49] I love the animation on them so much And in general The first time I saw this movie I saw it with my roommate at the time Molly, my BFF And we just It was one of those things where we were like

[00:34:58] I don't know, let's go see this movie Like we were not like Rack it And then we like watch it We exit and remember Molly being like That was delightful Like you know how to be this sort of like surprising Like look at that thing

[00:35:11] Well even from the early points Like you look at all these details Where it's just like Okay, they've like gotten the styles Of all these games right Right? Then you go into Because it starts out with you seeing The game 8-bit style Right? You go into the screen

[00:35:23] The way they translate that With the way the nice landers move But even like When Ralph wrecks the cake And the splatter from like The cake is kind of pixelated Like they just have such good consistent Visual rules And they do the thing

[00:35:36] That I love where it's just like It's a thing that I think is really Big and animated films Where it's like We're just going to establish A thing and explain to you its currency And it's worth And why the whole movie Will center around this thing

[00:35:48] Like the idea of the metal And what the metal means to everyone Right? What it means to Ralph What it means to Vanellope Both in being the coin in the race Yes And getting the apartment complex Like it's like the same way The memory orbs working inside out

[00:36:01] Well to me it's The screen canisters and monsters and I think the thing that it's most like is The pop-up book in Paddington 2 Where you're like On paper Who cares? It's just a pop-up book Right It's just a gold medal But like we have enough

[00:36:16] We understand from the beginning The emotional stakes associated That's the emotional stakes So it doesn't matter Even though it's a childish dream To attain it or whatever We totally get why they want That's what I love in kids movies Is when something is invested With emotional stakes

[00:36:29] That becomes the most valuable currency In the world But I also like in this movie It has literal applications That are different for different characters Yeah Yes I mean that's also right The very clever twist is that It means something much more practical to Right

[00:36:46] The cheeky cash-in is a coin That he can use to take out all the stuff Is really just tight, tight, tight as a drum I agree Tight as a drum Tight as a fucking drum So Ralph doesn't like So Ralph crashes this party Yeah And he wrecks it

[00:36:59] And he decides that he's going to go And get a medal and be the hero of his game He goes to Tapper Goes to Tapper Oh right And the bartender Who kind of is like a pseudo Mario This is a real game called Tapper That's like a marginal

[00:37:12] Yeah Really? A big game That's a real game You're trying to serve as many mugs of root beers You can't have to be root beer Because it's for kids Fun It's a real game You never played that game? It's fun I guess I used to

[00:37:24] When I was a A sort of Early teen I guess Yeah I would go to this bowling alley Because it was sort of like First of all the Budweiser too by the way Is in the screenshot David just showed me Really for Tapper? Yeah I think that

[00:37:37] Maybe Disney was the one who Disney thought it Yeah it's Well there's a root beer version maybe Interesting Yeah originally it was a Budweiser thing And then a root beer Tapper followed I just remember because when this movie was announced

[00:37:52] Everyone was like oh Disney is riffing on video games Or whatever And then when they were promoting it Like Richmore and people were like We're really big video game fans Look we put Tapper in it Like this is when the nerd press started to be like

[00:38:03] Oh is this movie made by people who like get it? Right Because in the poster they put like Sonic Like Front and Center and Bowser And these guys like don't really have parts No it's a one off joke for any of them essentially Right

[00:38:15] I was just gonna say I used to go to this bowling alley Because you know too young to go drinking I mean you were probably like murdering people in ditches Or whatever it is you did as a 13 year old But the bowling alley had an arcade

[00:38:25] With like old arcades such as Tapper You know what was the thing I did? What? Do you know the hand air? Oh Jesus I mean we called them dusters Yeah that's what they are I mean you're talking about like keyboard dusters Gets you fucked up I'm aware

[00:38:42] Those things have gotten me fucked up When I was just trying to like use them to clean a keyboard I was methodical about cleaning devices When I was like 14 And I would always get frustrated That they wouldn't let me buy them Because kids like you

[00:38:57] They'd like hard me trying to buy them And I'd be like I don't like dusting my keyboard Would you feel Would you just like blow it in each other's mouths Or in the nose I mean you just do to yourself Yeah you blow it in your mouth

[00:39:10] You're just talking about whippets In the woods I think David was asking No are you alive David was asking your orifice of choice Has anyone ever butt dusted? I mean someone has right Oh for sure I mean it probably would be really harmful It probably would suck

[00:39:25] Yeah cause you know when you do things through your butt It straights your bloodstream Also it essentially would be like a reverse fart Hey David Yeah that was good I like that It was a reverse fart you know Yeah David was busy writing his master's thesis

[00:39:43] Yeah I was briefly distracted by Tauker Okay so Ralph goes off And we're now he goes to the topper game And the bartender basically gives him some kind of scoop or something But again it's funny where the bartender like He's like Like he's arm sort of move jirkely

[00:39:59] All that stuff is so clever that they pulled that off It's sort of like CGI low frame rate shit Which is yeah it's just really well done Okay so then right The bartender tells Ralph he has to go to Hero's Duty Cause they got medals there

[00:40:12] They got medals He mentioned it's the new game No I'm sorry what he does is He says check the lost and found When he's looking at the lost and found Drunk Dro LaTrulyo comes in from Hero's Duty He's got PTSD

[00:40:23] He won't stop ranting about the bugs in the medal And Ralph is like I'm gonna steal this guy's costume I'm gonna go into his game Which is akin to going turbo Right Another thing I love that Well he denies that he's doing

[00:40:33] He's just like I'm just visiting essentially But they set that up so early And they say you're not gonna go turbo Like a non-meeting Which I thought was funny just as a joke in and of itself Like it doesn't sound like an exposition I'm like

[00:40:42] Sounds like a video game phrase They would use a term like going turbo And you start to realize a specific thing It's this character who left his game And then right It fucks everyone up It fucks everyone up It fucks up the whole ecosystem If you jump games

[00:40:54] Right because suddenly the game looks broken And so the game will be unplugged And also at this point in the movie They've sort of set up the rules of then how The real world and the video game sort of work

[00:41:05] And like the power bar being kind of like The transfer station between all the games That's where I'm just like suddenly Like I'm rocking back and forth in my chair I'm like I can't believe how good this is That the power strip is like an airplane

[00:41:21] Hang you know like an airport Let's call this out You love rules This movie sets up rules that well You get amped You get hard as a diamond As I know I'm hard as a fucking diamond As I noted in This movie is just like rules

[00:41:35] Like David's like you're like obsessive Like train like tendencies Like come into play on this movie Where you're like every train is arriving At the right time story wise As I noted in my review of Ralph Briggs the internet Yes You know this much like the

[00:41:50] My beloved Matrix sequels Is a world A series about the lives of computer programs Now I mean Ralph is technically I guess a video But it's the same concept right? It's like you're giving sentience to something That also must obey a program

[00:42:05] Especially in two where they open it up And it's like okay the same kind of rules apply To how every app becomes a character Right of course All this stuff And I love the idea of the Right the conflict between the sentience You've given them and the programming

[00:42:18] They must obey It is great But it's like their job though Right Well that and especially in Ralph Briggs the internet That's where I'm like wow Like they're talking about Growing up and getting a job And now that's boring And they've somehow made this very energetic film

[00:42:36] About that And how like then you can't see your friends as much Yeah Ralph rules Ralph rules So he goes into hero's duty And you get this really intense action sequence I remember seeing this Yeah it's like here's a war kind of game

[00:42:53] But it is like very dark, very violent They get away with it because it's robot bug So the violence doesn't feel But there's a lot of guns as you say Yeah And there's the first person which I think is funny Which is like a mounted screen

[00:43:06] That's a little you know it's like a little Eight year old girl with glasses or whatever Who is with the soldiers Right and then you have Jane Lynch who's fucking great in this Sergeant Calhoun who's programmed with the most tragic backstory ever That's what's funny That's her burden

[00:43:21] That just gets me Right it's so good That first flashback where they go like don't you know It's like such a ridiculous And it's also you don't have to know video game stuff to get it No It's like yeah

[00:43:33] Just the joke of not to like dissect the frog here But the joke of don't you know And then you think they're going to explain the tragic backstory And instead they go she has a tragic backstory Like the tragic thing is that she was given a tragic thing

[00:43:46] And just And that's the They're having fun at the expense of the sort of Uber bleak Right Video games that were kind of flooding the market where it's It's like The performatively this is not for kids Kind of

[00:44:00] Right but she herself is kind of like a mix between Like a master sheaf and a Metroid Right Yeah For sure And this is this point where it's like It's a halo spoof too But for some reason the Gears of War was Yes definitely a halo spoof

[00:44:13] You have John C Riley who's a movie star But the other three people are like Sarah Silverman Still pretty much like coming officer Silverman program at this point Jane Lynch is the mean lady on Glee And Jack Mcbrayer is the fifth lead on 30 rock

[00:44:25] Like it was weird people to put in a big Disney move It was but I mean Silverman is to me the most interesting I mean like obviously Lynch and Mcbrayer being cast To type Yes perfectly Yeah The characters look like them Yeah you're right I mean Silverman

[00:44:40] I guess she's a pretty big deal at this point Just sort of as a person She'd just been in like take this wall It's to put her in a family movie No I agree with you I'm trying to think if like So the Silver

[00:44:53] The Sarah Silverman program ends in 2010 So she's right Right But yeah you set up these parallel tracks now Where it's like Felix And Calhoun Once Ralph has stolen the metal And run off he gets ejected And a skate pod lands in Sugar Rush with this metal

[00:45:13] And a bug And a bug Big detail He got a bug And so then we meet The world of Vanellope Right he gets Pushed into Sugar Rush Which is a sort of Candy Crush meets Mario Kart style Thing So here's the Weiger complaint This is, so Nick Weiger

[00:45:35] Is one of the great people Yes Would you agree? I couldn't agree more Top 10 people The Bogey Boy himself The best podcast Period Co-host of Doe Boys Yes A creator of the monster fuck That's true on Comedy Bang Bang And he Used to write for Comedy Bang Bang

[00:45:52] Uh huh He has the complaint that this is not really a Video Game movie That it is a movie that is largely about Candy Right like he's like I used to work in video games Because we spend so much time in Sugar Rush

[00:46:04] And there's so many great candy jokes to be made That's his big thing was like I used to work in video games I love video games I was excited to see the Roger Rabbit of video games A movie that like called out all the tropes

[00:46:14] Worked in all the sort of character types All of that And the first 30 minutes of this movie Are definitely that Yeah And then at minute like 27 He lands In Sugar Rush And it becomes like Mostly Candy Land puns Right

[00:46:29] And you're mostly abiding by the rules of this one game Like do we see another game? I mean obviously there are the jokes about like Cue Bird and Mary or whatever But like Nothing new gets introduced from this point on Right Like you've set up the worlds

[00:46:41] And a couple of characters will come back From like the Power Surge And all that sort of stuff Surge Protector But at this point It's like primarily Cause even then Felix and Cahoon Very quickly are landing in Sugar Rush As well themselves I would argue though Like

[00:46:59] Like mapping Like the Mario Kart Sort of stuff That is in this Like if you think about The design of Mario Kart It's not that far off from like A banana peel versus like No no no No it's not The complaint is that From that point on

[00:47:17] The major joke base Ben get your hands from around my head I'll fucking kill you David Don't you dare It's Gil Weigar It's not me Go to LA And take him down I am Take a bite out of him The argument is You gotta hold him like laundry

[00:47:32] Hold him fucking like laundry We love Dead Boys Shout out to this one man The argument is that From this point on The joke stop being based around The video game tropes And start being based around Candy puns There's still some things Which is good

[00:47:48] Yeah the kid did look The jokes and he's Let's be taffy that's good Yeah I mean candle head obviously We stand a legend Candle is amazing Excuse me I made it clear Rancis Fluggerbutter is my boy It's all in my candle head He's a little stinker

[00:47:59] And he's got a PM bar cup on his head Like a hat You know there are certain jokes Like there's I cheered when Rancis came on screen Ben came back to the op There were two other people in the theater They didn't like it One Fluggerbutter

[00:48:13] They got really mad when Gord came on the screen Because I just started Humping the chair The script initially had A fourth game Right Called Easy Living I believe Extreme Easy Living What's gonna be like Sims? That was sort of a Sims joke

[00:48:27] With a bit of like the Sandboxy Grand Theft Auto stuff Like a very mild version Obviously because it's a Disney movie And I guess it was just like There was gonna be something about Like like buttons and stuff Where I'm saying this

[00:48:41] Because I feel like a lot of this This rolls on too Yeah gets put in Ralph Breaks the internet They didn't have space right here But Another game that was references Outrun Which was the replacement That game that made Turbo Go turbo Sure Okay yes Yes yes

[00:48:58] Just saying Yeah you have other things in there But yes the movie becomes right Okay it's a little candy oriented Vanellope wants to be a racer They won't let her cause she's a glitch Right You can't play unless you got A gold coin

[00:49:11] You can't get a gold coin Unless you win The fucking government Shutting things down Creating these LeBrenthian systems That the everyday person Can't beat Right So she steals the metal from Ralph She throws it in the cup She qualifies But then they start flipping the fuck out

[00:49:26] They destroy her racer Yeah And it becomes this like pet cause of Ralph Even though Vanellope's been making fun of him Saying he's ugly Making a bunch of killer duty jokes Definitely that he stinks Right That they gotta help each other Yep

[00:49:41] Ralph trains to become a better racer Right Meanwhile She sleeps on a bed of trash like a homeless lady Yeah That has to be an ad lib right No question Where she says I wrap myself up in these rappers like a little homeless lady She is

[00:49:55] I'm like there's no way Disney scripted that line She is so fucking good in these movies And I think too she gets even better I think she's just like outrageously good in these movies Insanely good Everyone's good in them But she kind of Riley's great

[00:50:08] In two she hits like a next level Hall of Fame Voice performer I think Tudyk is just fantastic I know that King Candy is I said early in this episode I think he's the MVP of this movie I love him I'm not speaking to you

[00:50:22] I think in general King Candy is not for everyone He's certainly very broad character He's doing this kind of like Paul and boys No the guy he's really doing Edwin Right The floating uncle From Mary Poppins Who was a big Disney guy Tudyk is so fucking

[00:50:40] He's got so much range He has the range And even in In two he plays He knows more And I feel like that's another like Oh he's doing a very specific type of animation voice You know from the 1960s

[00:50:54] Like he's really good at aping these different classical styles He can also do his own voices He's the best unemotional robot voice in the business He's good chicken He's good chicken But K2SO Sonny from iRobot I did not murder him And of course America's favorite non-emotional robot

[00:51:15] Danger boat Oh yeah My love interest Yeah Is that gonna get explored further? A lot Season two Got a lot of stuff with Tudyk Yeah Did you know that King Candy's the same voice as Danger Boat? No I didn't It's the same voice I have never met him

[00:51:32] I have so many scenes with him I've never met him I've never had any correspondence with him Um Well I'd like to shake his hand I would too I'd love to meet him He's incredible I was about to write You should meet him

[00:51:44] No I'd love to meet him The new version of Disney Feature Animation has made him their John Radsenberger Where he's the one they work into every movie Whereas Radsenberger has like one voice that is so recognizable And every time he shows up in a Pixar movie you're like

[00:51:56] Oh right Okay With Tudyk you're like Oh that's who Tudyk was? Exactly Every time with Tudyk you're surprised that he was the chicken He was just going Like that was his whole performance He's so good Yeah he is As a chicken As everything I'm a chicken March

[00:52:11] Well here's the favorite random chicken Back to the movie Back to the movie please King Candy reveals himself to be a bad man That's a little later I guess yeah I guess we're racing through it Yeah I don't know I like the shit in the code

[00:52:25] I like that we see that I thought of you When that happened I was like This is David You thought of me jerking it But I like how much of a master manipulator he is towards Ralph Where he's just like I know he looks like the bad guy

[00:52:36] I'm going to explain this rationally Yeah he gives a You stop questioning me But wait wait wait That scene is great Yeah exactly all the things Like I like that Ralph is an inherently grumpy person His breath stinks His hands are big for smashing right

[00:52:50] So with Vanellope initially of course He's kind of a heel The size difference between the two The size difference He is big I love the scene where they make the crummy racer for her And it looks so dumb And she's so like into it It makes me cry

[00:53:06] She's such a good actor Yes because You were saying this was the same years take this wall Incredible and take this wall She is she's great in that And so another thing where like She's one of those comedic actors Where when you give her a serious part

[00:53:17] She doesn't tone down her charisma She doesn't get too self serious and dry away A lot of comedians I think make the mistake of going When they're like oh this is a drama shouldn't be funny But she hits such precise emotional depths When she needs to Right

[00:53:33] That means that the scene when Ralph smashes the car Is like so I can't I almost excused myself from the room Because I knew it was coming up Yeah And I was going to be like I'm going to go make some tea

[00:53:53] Like you know I was going to try and be out of the room For five minutes Because I knew he was about to smash the car And I actually stuck it out I was like no I have to suffer through this again And at that point

[00:54:00] You're kind of buying King Candy's line So you're like fuck this is one of those Official Kobayashi Marus Where he has to look like an asshole In order to help her Because King Candy is like If she wins the race And she gets into the race

[00:54:14] And the game gets shut down Because they'll see it to glitch Glitches can't leave the game Right But it's like you're watching and you're like The only way he can be a good friend to her Is to make her hate him And you're like God this sucks

[00:54:25] And you don't even know how much worse it's going to get Because King Candy was fucking with his head Yeah he's terrible But the other thing I just love about that Turn is that it's like Ralph is being forced To go to his primal nature

[00:54:38] Right he is, he wrecks His shame he doesn't want to wreck He doesn't want to wreck He doesn't want to be a bad boy It is the thing he is best at But he's good at it He's good at being bad How do they turn it around?

[00:54:49] Well also we should just mention that Felix has teamed up with What is the character's name Sergeant Calhoun Thank you Sergeant Calhoun and they have now Discovered that there's a bug problem Yep And she also needs to get the medal For some reason

[00:55:09] She's got to get the medal It's got to be in her game I think maybe it was a little No she just wants the bug debt She wants the bug She is all focused on the bug Because she knows how bad they are Right that's the thing

[00:55:18] Felix wants to get Ralph back Because otherwise their game Is now out of commission Their game is essentially They're going to get shut down Has like a day before Maybe he's going to get shut down And she's like you don't understand How dangerous these bugs are

[00:55:27] You need my help They could infect everything And I think the reveal of all the eggs Underneath sugar rush is really funny That's funny I just like the horror movie stuff This is one of those movies where it's like Every time they set something up

[00:55:40] That just seems like a funny joke In and of itself It pays off later Like the fucking Mentos And like the Coca-Cola You're like that's just a good candy joke But then you're like that's like Chekhov's gun Oh no it isn't good It's a Chekhov's Mentos

[00:55:52] But yes this is the thing Where I'm like It's kind of siding with Weigar Where I'm like right There's a whole set piece Built around Mentos And Diet Coke Right that's not a joke about Video game functions That's a joke about how candy functions

[00:56:06] There are things like the Devil Dogs I'll fucking kick you guys out The Devil Dogs Are you gonna get the cards out? I will The death cards Death cards to both of you Oh shit We're both got death cards You know there's the Devil Dogs Which is funny

[00:56:17] Mm-hmm There's the high The donut The quicksand The donut cops The donut cops Come on let's think of what else Beer Papa played by John DiMaggio That's weird Weird Weird that Beer Papa is The beer papa is the security guard Both of these movies have like

[00:56:31] A surprising amount of what I Imagine was a combination of like This is a funny play on words and also Like a purple The Mattress Company Paid us a million dollars to put them in our Right I like sour bill So bill's a good guy

[00:56:44] Sour bill's a great guy That's our disposition but a kind heart I feel like there's one other obvious I mean I love that Vanellope's skirt Is a Reese's wrapper Oh their designs are so good All the kids Minty Zaki Candlehead Minty Zaki Taffeta Mutton Fudge Rancis Flugger Butter

[00:57:07] Alright well I think we should get through the first Movie we're about an hour or whatever they do it He starts realizing Right King Candy's Turbo Yeah King Candy's Turbo They do a big race The race happens at the same time as like

[00:57:19] Turbo turns into a spider person The bug Because of the bugs and the bugs are Swarming everything and the race is Kind of destroyed and And all the people are exiting the game Because they think that the bugs are going to take over Vanellope can't leave

[00:57:33] Cause she's not She has a cross the finish line yet Because she's a glitch And then if she does She'll become a real character Ralph realizes that the only way to save the day Is to own being a bad guy to do the things

[00:57:46] Well he owns his wrecking Right He wrecks the Mentos Right It's cute But that's the breakthrough is I don't need to be the one who saves I can be the one that wrecks And wrecking can save people Wrecking can be great And Vanellope's glitching can be great

[00:57:59] I don't need the revelation That Vanellope is a princess I like it because I think it is funny And I have good laughs when it happens Me too I also like the part where she says She's going to execute everyone That's fun It's very fun

[00:58:13] I am very happy And just getting I'm very happy that in two She resets to her comfy clothes That they don't have her like Of stack the princess thing Now here's Here's the one thing I could do without The Owl City song in the end credits Sure Yes

[00:58:27] Yeah I mean it's in some ways The game is very The movie is very 2012 Very Because there's also that montage In the middle Set to like Rihanna's Shut Up and Drive

[00:58:38] Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na

[00:58:40] You know there's some There's some things where you're like Isn't this a Disney movie? Ben is Itchin A deathcard He's scratching So basically Ben you will brook No criticism Is that That's your sort You can't No best animated feature at the Academy Awards.

[00:58:57] I think it was viewed as the odds on favor. Kind of. We've talked about this before. I think Brave was always the favorite just because of the Pixar. Brave wasn't winning the precursors and everyone was like, this is a misstep for Pixar,

[00:59:08] this is when their run ends and then Brave won and it was very odd. But it didn't win the Golden Globe for animated feature. What that went to Brave? Brave did win that. Weird. It did however win the PGA Award. Yeah. Speaking of award winning.

[00:59:29] Have you guys, have you guys like, I don't know, I'm trying to find Betty. You guys, that was heard anything about insanely seamless. Can I flip over some cards? Flip them over. And this isn't a death card. Here's a hand I've been holding under the table secretly

[00:59:47] and I'm going to flip over and show it to everybody. He brought his hand out. Sometimes there's some funny makeup ups with these ads. Sure. Okay, we lie. They're false premises, right? Uh-huh. I'm going to make a big confession here because I just want to live

[01:00:00] an honest life now. All these times we've been doing ads for Brooklyn and I didn't even have Brooklyn and she. I was the Brooklyn and they kept on sending me saying, hey, they want to send you a free sample.

[01:00:09] And I was like, hold your horses, hold your horses. I'm disorganized and I don't like responding to emails. Yeah. Griffin, I don't know if you guys know this, but he's terrible at responding to email. Probably the number one worst tumble break. So I've moved departments.

[01:00:20] I got a new bed. I've been the one standing with the legend that is Brooklyn and the entire time, which because I love my Brooklyn and so much moved departments, God knew bed. And then wrote back to Brooklyn was like, hey,

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[01:00:55] You're broken. I'm sorry. He's been so loosional. It's real shifty in his chair right now. But yeah, no, because did you realize that you spend a third of your life in the sheets and it's was time for a bedding upgrade?

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[01:03:08] quons are present for anyone you love or great present for yourself. Maybe treat yourself a little nice this holiday season. Yeah. Well, I'm sold. So record off to ends with everything being perfect. Yeah, they're now good friends. Peace has spread throughout the gaming land right.

[01:03:28] The people are nice to her now that the I mean to him sorry the on both sides. No, no, yeah, yeah, right. The sugar rush people accept vanilla be the other kid racers the nice landers are nice to Ralph. Everyone kind of understands the ecosystem.

[01:03:42] We all play our parts. We all help each other don't villainize the the other right and it's so nice to because they get some of the the games like Cuba and the the characters that don't have a home anymore.

[01:03:55] They bring them into the fold because Wrecking Ralph has good values right. So it's fun. It loses the Oscar. It gets great reviews. It underperforms relative to the other modern Disney films. It's the only one of the modern run that doesn't crack 200 domestic.

[01:04:13] Yeah, so we're going to do the box office game. You're right 189 domestic number 471 worldwide. I just remember seeing the trailer and being like this is going to make all the fucking money in the world. Interesting. You made a wildly inaccurate prediction about a Disney movie.

[01:04:28] Well, get that in a second. Okay, so box office November 2nd opens number one 2012. It opens at number one with forty nine million dollars. I was going to guess the number. Oh sorry. Okay. What were you going to get? I was going to guess forty seven.

[01:04:42] I would have been off by two pretty good. Number two is a like an R rated grown up drama that with a big star from a big director that was you know moderate hit got a got got awards attention.

[01:05:01] Was it opening this week or yes and open number two was the final box office total 93 million domestic and it did get some Oscar play. I believe it got two nominations where they both performances. No one was writing and one was performance.

[01:05:17] I think drama from a big director. Yeah, and the performance was in a leader supporting category big star performance of big star 93. Oh fuck. I'm so close to saying I believe the movie was flight. Correct. Opening to 24 million number three is that year's best picture winner.

[01:05:38] That year's best picture winner is of course Casper spirited beginning. You did it 2012. No, it's Argo still doing well still doing good. This is came out in September. It's still in the top five in November. It's in since fourth week.

[01:05:53] So I guess it came up very early October maybe maybe that's right first week. Yeah, because I think yes October. Yeah, yeah number four and it brought Ben Affleck right back up to the top and he stayed there very comfortably. It's more like Argo. I'd say Argo K.

[01:06:10] It's our go okay. It's okay. Okay. Number four is a new movie this week and it is directed by a legendary rap artist. Is it the man with the golden fist close? It's the right movie but the wrong title. Yeah, wrong metal. Fuck. It's not golden.

[01:06:34] No, it's man with the bronze. No, I mean think about the artist. This is the movie I'm thinking of right? It's the it's the Riz's movie just say the right metal. What metal does another member of the Wu Tang clan really love us sort of? What?

[01:06:55] Why am I not thinking of this? Ghost face. What metal does he love? This this silver? He's guessed three. No. Come on. What metal this goes? What's the last look like an idiot right now? You do what's the last word in the title you said it right fist.

[01:07:13] Okay, what's a metal that goes with fist? Metal that goes with Fizz brass. I'm actually actually amazed he gets a fourth metal. That's wrong. Yeah, I mean fair enough but no no there's like a aluminum. Is this a bit silver gold bronze brass? Sure.

[01:07:36] Aluminum I have to get it eventually right? Yeah keep going now is what you have to name metals. This is miraculous. Peter. It's not really a metal. Yeah. What's the big metal I'm forgetting? There's putty I mean you want to reel off some more metals?

[01:07:53] If you have clothes. Okay, if you have clothes and they're wrinkled. Uh-huh. What do you do? Iron fist. What's he doing a bit? I can't tell. Ironing. I know you got it right the man with the iron fist. I wasn't doing a bit.

[01:08:07] Okay, you know Marvel's iron fist and then of course it goes face like iron man. Right of course. Anyway made 15 domestic. Yeah, okay. That was fun. Yeah, we had a great time. What a straight ten hand you remember that ten hand the man with the brass fist.

[01:08:28] I remember everything except for that. I was gonna say like you remember that movie which was you know pretty quickly forgotten. You remember that it was like directed by the weekend. And then Russell Crowe is right and you're like that's right but you can't remember higher.

[01:08:44] What can I tell you number five little stinker you are number five. Regular Rancis Flugger is a sequel an action sequel. It's an action sequel. It's fifth weekend. It's made 125 domestic. Wow. So it came out September. That sounds right. It's an action sequel made 125 domestic. October 5th actually.

[01:09:06] Was it the number two in the franchise? Yes. Was it the last one? No. How many more have they made? One more I think. There's three of them. Yeah. It's a tight trilogy. Does it have a big action star in it?

[01:09:21] I mean he is now he hasn't always been. Oh is it taken two? Correct. Cool. Correct. One of the best premises for a sequel. We've talked about it multiple times. It is not good. I wasn't going to re-litigate.

[01:09:35] I was just going to say it's not a good money. No. But you're right that Rutger Ralph does not make the kind of money where you're like Disney's going to have to make a sequel. Like Frozen. Tangle does two. Frozen does 400. Zootopia does 350. The thing about Frozen was.

[01:09:52] Moana does 250. She never does sequels to the princess shit in theaters. But it was like Frozen is just such a phenomenon. You can't not make a sequel. In this movie making climate. The thing that was interesting was when they announced the Ralph sequel

[01:10:05] it felt like we're making this because there's potential in this universe. Not because it's the one as much that's demanded by the numbers. Or maybe it was one of those movies that just killed on video. Like Disney grew. Like the numbers they were seeing. I think it grew.

[01:10:20] I think it's really kind of stuck in the culture. I think people like the characters. I get the sense the merchandise sells well. All of the above. And I think Rich Moore had sort of become their hot guy. Zootopia was sort of a problem. I was writing letters.

[01:10:33] Ben was writing a lot of letters. Zootopia had sort of become a problem film and after Ralph they put him on Zootopia to try to fix that. And then Zootopia blew up and he won an Oscar. I got a season to assist.

[01:10:43] I think he had been trying to make a Ralph sequel at that time before they put him on Zootopia. And I wouldn't be surprised if he was like Zootopia if you let me make a Ralph 2. Because then very shortly after Zootopia this was announced.

[01:10:55] Zootopia was such a hit? Yeah. Yeah? I don't know. What if cartoon but what? So Zootopia which we're not discussing. At all. And then... Well David don't try to keep it moving. Ben of course is the host of this. Oh yeah.

[01:11:14] Well so to get us back on track. God David. Woo! So of course I'm a kind of a connoisseur of context. Are you guys? A little bit. Oh okay cool. So I just wanted to sort of let our listeners know just like contextually where I saw this movie.

[01:11:30] And it was a few days ago when I was with a good friend of mine named Griffin Newman. Downtown Griffin Newman. And Griffin and I went over to the Kips Bay AMC. Not far from where we're currently recording. No not at all. It was a rainy night?

[01:11:44] The rainiest night. I got hit by a car on the way to the theater. I didn't tell you this day. Oh yeah. Griffin got hit by a car. Clipped by a car? It fully hit me. And it hit me. Great. I'll say this.

[01:11:57] It hit me as directly as a car could without seriously injuring me. Okay. Like I walked it off but it was like oh but for the grace of God. Like a milliseconds different. I had the right of way. There was a white pedestrian light.

[01:12:11] It was raining very hard. And this car full on turned and hit me. And I like in a rare move of aggression like hit the hood of the car. Sure. And did my like pointing at the light like what the fuck.

[01:12:25] And the guy I looked, I made eye contact with the guy. And the guy had such like fear in his eyes because he had just thought he was about to murder somebody. Right of course. I mean it's the ultimate nightmare right? Right. Like it was raining so hard.

[01:12:39] He took a quick turn. You could like barely see ahead of you. Yeah. And he put the brake at the last millisecond so that I didn't get injured. Where are we talking? Where? He was turning on to try to get onto the... So you're crossing with the light.

[01:12:51] I was crossing with the light. He's got the green light to go ahead but he's just turning recklessly. Correct. Right. He didn't have the light for the turn. Sure. And then I walked three more blocks, got to the theater and said to Ben

[01:13:01] I just got hit by a car. And I sat down in the theater. Well you were wet. I was soaking wet which Ben really liked. I was little bit wet. Ben does like him wet. Little bit wet. Yeah. And we watched this movie.

[01:13:12] Now first of all I want to say for a little bit of context there was a trailer that came up that we've been saying we were going to talk about on this episode. It's a movie called Spies and Disguise. Okay. Cross it off the list.

[01:13:23] We have a list of bullshit we have to talk about. So... Okay. No, I think it goes to me, Ben. Like so the trailers started and Griffin's like pay attention. I said Ben pay attention. David wants to talk about this on the episode. Yeah.

[01:13:37] I saw this trailer whenever the day came out. Now your original plan was you want to have Ben watch the trailer live while recording. So we get the real time reaction. And I said look it's ruined but just watch this and take note of what's going on.

[01:13:48] And about 60 seconds into the trailer we're watching Very Hip Spy voiced by Will Smith who I don't believe has any dialogue in the trailer up until that point. But he's doing cool debonair thing. It feels like some sub-incredible 60s style spy shit.

[01:14:01] And I went Ben you think you're on the same track as this movie right? And he went yep. And I went cool. Just pay close attention. And then there's a hard cut to a little pigeon in an oversized tuxedo crumpled on the floor. Sure.

[01:14:15] And Ben turns to me and he says good. I say he laughs like that first but only for about two seconds and then the laugh clips off abruptly and he turns to me and says good. Because you see in spies in disguise the secret agent guy

[01:14:35] turns into a pigeon. It's the highest concept movie ever. Here's what if it's beyond high concept. What if Will Smith the world's coolest super spy gets turned into a pigeon. But it's not like one of those things where you're like well of course classical literature, Shakespeare

[01:14:52] man into pigeon is one of the archetypes of storytelling. Follow the logic chain here. You know where this is going. He's a very cool spy. He's got a lot of gadgets. He's very slick and handsome people like him. Of course he gets turned into a pigeon.

[01:15:05] And he turns Yang. It is pigeon. What's on the other side of this coin? Well they try to justify it. They say what better way to disguise yourself. They're everywhere. No one pays attention to them. I could be a chameleon I guess.

[01:15:20] The thing about this movie is every time its logic is indefinite, I'm like yeah I guess you're right. And then of course I see this trailer and then I went away for a weekend with David or like his wife, me and my girlfriend went away. Double humfrey.

[01:15:37] And the girls or at least, whatever, you know, we were like, we're going to watch this trailer when we get, you know, no spoilers. Yeah. We watched the trailer. Obviously it goes over great. Well, and we were talking about this the other day, how the thing is,

[01:15:50] you could pause this trailer and say to someone, guess what you think happens next? And with the pre-warning of there's a crazy twist coming, right? And like infinite number of times, infinite number of universes, no one would guess it. Right.

[01:16:02] But also you could never over hype it to someone like no one would watch the trailer and go, you know what? I'm sorry. When you told me there was a crazy twist, I just imagined something much crazier. So I was let down by the reveal of the trailer.

[01:16:13] Right. You're never going to. Yeah, exactly. But then I'm like spies in disguise. Wait a second. Spies in disguise. They're in disguise. Spies in disguise. I know I get it. I get it. It's about disguise. Like Aloha. It's about disguise. The tagline is super spy, super fly.

[01:16:35] The cast of course is Will Smith as special agent Pigeon. Lance Sterling I believe. Tom Holland plays the tech genius millennial tween who turns him into a pigeon. And the other names here Rashida Jones, Karen Gillian, and who of course do you put in your animated film?

[01:16:50] Legendary Hussinan eater DJ Khaled. Legendary annoying influencer who doesn't you don't really get why he's so famous. Well, let's make up a movie start to the definition of a man where you go. He's not that attractive, but he's probably generous with oral DJ Chow.

[01:17:15] You have to have the confidence of being DJ Khaled and saying like I'm not going to do that. He said it on like a isn't also I didn't even remember. It's one of the great interviews. It's one of the all time great interviews.

[01:17:29] This is where they just started talking. I can't how does it come up? He volunteers it independent. No, I know. But like why is it even up for discussion? I don't remember. You're saying culturally. Why is it even?

[01:17:40] No, it's like the guy doesn't say that you eat pussy. Like I think it's more like they're just talking about sex in some way. He's like by the way, right? Like isn't it kind of talking about like his wife? I think that's the contest and their relationship or

[01:17:53] something and then he really grossly says like I never do that for her. And I expect that she does that for me. He's talking about that. He's saying like you got to keep it up in the marriage. You got to keep things exciting.

[01:18:04] You can't just let the fact that you've been together for a while, you know, get complacent. You know, I let her know like she has to keep doing that and they're like and you probably do the same right? And he's like absolutely not.

[01:18:15] I remember the DJ is just sort of like what's my man? You got it. What are you talking about? By the way, this was not on the list of topics we were playing to discuss today. We have a long list.

[01:18:27] But his explanation and this is very sound logic and you can't argue with it is no, but I'm the king. You have to understand I'm the king of the house. Who fucking? And the host says but she's the queen and he went no but it's different.

[01:18:38] I'm not going to do that. Anyway, I'm not going to do that. Spies in disguise. I'm not going to do that. Okay, so here's why I want to tell you about spies in disguise because your mind was blown by this trailer

[01:18:48] and you were like how do they fucking get to this concept right? There was a man. I'm waiting. I'm listening. Works entertainment industry works animation works in video games self produced his own animated short film. Okay, it has a name right? It's like Operation Pigeon or something. Correct.

[01:19:05] I believe it's called Pigeon Impossible. Okay. They definitely upgraded with spies in disguise. Fox and blue sky. You are correct. It's called Pigeon Impossible. I've watched the short. I did my research for this. Okay. Fox buys the short for a ton of money and then

[01:19:21] hires other people to write and direct a movie. This movie has been developing for a while. So it's one of those. So Fox sees this and is like, I don't even care about this piece of shit. We just need spy turns into pigeon. We need this so desperately.

[01:19:33] David, you're half right and half wrong because I'm saving the reveal of what happens in the short. Okay. But Fox sees a thing made by an outside independent animator and they go we will pay you millions of dollars to have the rights to the short.

[01:19:45] We don't want you making a feature film adaptation. We're going to hire other people to do it. This concept is so money. We fucking need this. Working through, working through different iterations, different teams. They finally a year ago announced Will Smith.

[01:19:59] The film is now called Spies in Disguise. Here's the premise. He's the world's sleekest super spy and his assistant is a tech kid. Okay. And you go what based off a short called Pigeon Impossible what does this have to do with anything? Okay.

[01:20:11] And all the times they were talking about the movie they were like it's just a comedy about a very cool spy and an odd couple pairing with a weird tech kid. Right. And I went and watched this trailer the original before the trailer was released.

[01:20:22] I went and watched the original short film. Here's the premise of the short film. There is a cool spy guy Walter Beckett or whatever. He's got a briefcase that is the briefcase that like activates the nuclear codes. Yeah. And launches all the missiles to blow up the world

[01:20:37] or whatever right? There's a pigeon. He's sitting on a bench with it. There's a pigeon is trying to eat a bagel through a weird series of circumstances no dialogue in this short pigeon gets stuck in the case.

[01:20:48] And the entire short is a pigeon is stuck in a case. He activates the red button and the spy is trying to free the pigeon and stop the missile from blowing everything up. Okay. Fox sees this goes we need to make a movie out of this right.

[01:21:03] Immediately realizes what's the premise. Right. But they've already spent so much money for this concept that they have to work the pigeon into it somehow. So the premise becomes the spy is the pigeon. Because what they bought was great. And what you're describing is good business strategy. Yes.

[01:21:20] Where it's sort of like I don't know whatever idiot made the initial acquisition runs into Fox breathless goes I've just seen the most incredible short in my life a pigeon gets caught in a suitcase. I offered him six million dollars. Right. We got to do that.

[01:21:34] They're like what? How do you make it? Watch it and they're like this isn't a movie and the guy's like yeah maybe you're right. Maybe why did I pay the check has already been deposited. They can't at this point just make a comedy about spies

[01:21:47] because then what did you spend the money on? Like they assemble like Steven Zalian like Jenny Lou Matt right. You know they call in all these ringers and they're like someone walks out Baldwin in Glengariglin Ross walks in and writes on the whiteboard like spy plus pigeon.

[01:22:03] Yes, you got to figure this out. That's the equation. That's all we need these two elements. Correct. Put it together. Correct. I don't know what else. I'm sorry but like this is something you have a week. Isn't that incredible? Yes, great.

[01:22:18] So that's how you get to that movie is I don't know I guess the spy turns into a pigeon because we spent money on a spy and a pigeon and we need them both to be in the same movie. Right.

[01:22:26] That having been said if that Will Smith pigeon spy ends up in a suitcase in the movie I will lose my shit. If they've actually worked in that set piece I will lose my shit. I will cheer. I will stay in a legend. That is spies in disguise.

[01:22:39] Stand a legend. All right. Can we cross off the list? Yep, done. I cross off the list. Okay so here's another prediction. Eight more things. I think the live action quote unquote Lion King will be the highest grossing film in history. Oh so we're just doing this.

[01:22:51] David thinks I'm a fool and I just want to say this on the record right now. Now we're going to source out to our listeners. David has said we should have a bet with something at stake. Like a sort of a steak dinner type bet.

[01:23:01] But perhaps something a little crazier not in terms of expense but maybe in terms of Certainly not in terms of expense. Involvement in terms of ridiculousness. Oh sure. I'm interested. Or I was trying to think of like a more novelty meal. Right.

[01:23:15] Like that you would want to like you know it's like we owe each other dinner at Mars 2112 except that's closed down but like. A Chuck E.T. is a medieval times. I mean it has to be something that has a little like pep to it as a bet.

[01:23:26] You know. You know I've never been to Dave and Busters. David you would love Dave and Busters. I mean it's right there in the name. My girlfriend hasn't been to Dave and Busters either and I told her about it and she

[01:23:37] she found out for the first time that it existed and she was like what is this place and I was like imagine Chuck E.T. but it's a bridge and tunnel bar. So how about whoever wins the bet has to like treat you and everyone.

[01:23:53] The problem is I will be going there tomorrow night with my girlfriend because now she knows it exists. Fair enough. I thought you guys are going to take it more like he has to drink milk and you have to do something you don't want to do.

[01:24:03] I mean that's another avenue here. Okay. You don't like milk? I hate it. It's the worst thing in the world. I don't want to make him drink milk. It would be funny though. I won't have to because Johnny Favre is going to clear two billion.

[01:24:15] So you think The Lion King which is directed by John Fevro and it's going to come out in July of 2019. I believe the exact 20th anniversary, 25th anniversary of the original film. It's coming out the same day 25 years later. Is that right? Nostalgia at an all time high.

[01:24:31] Who's going to play the baboon? Who's playing the baboon? What's his name? It's John Connie, right? The father from Black Panther? Rafiki, yes. John Connie, the legendary South African playwright who is a great revered playwright. An actor but like revered playwright is now just kind of

[01:24:50] like a Disney guy that does Black Panther in The Lion King. Robert Gio, you know, Benson played the fucking Rafiki. Show some respect. The great Robert Gio. He's great but I'm saying like for Rafiki the first time they were like, oh, it's good. Robert Gio.

[01:25:05] We say have funnies. Let's a come star. This time they're like, let's get legendary playwright. John Fevro, I think correctly was like, oh maybe Lion King shouldn't star predominantly white people. Robert Gio was black but yes. Robert Gio and James Old Jones

[01:25:18] and everyone else in the cast was white. Pretty much. Matthew Broderick does not seem like someone from the African Plains. Wait a second. You're telling me Matthew Broderick isn't Black? You know me, Simba from Africa. Yeah. Yeah, this time I feel like the only Donald Glover, Beyonce.

[01:25:34] Of course the great African-American actor Billy Eichner. No, I mean Tom on and Pumbar are white because I don't know. A tradition. I think this movie is going to make such a stupid amount of money. I think it's a use that kind of movie

[01:25:50] where no one thinks about it being the level blockbuster it's going to be. They're like, well, it's Disney whatever it's going to make money but every time one of these things comes out, people are astonished by how much it overperforms. Look at Beauty and the Beast,

[01:26:02] look at fucking Jungle Book. Right, but they did not make, they were not even close. But they've been escalating. They've been growing bigger and bigger. They have been getting... Yeah, they're going to get bigger. Bigger and bigger. Right. You have The Lion King which is the

[01:26:14] most beloved of that generation. Yeah, I would agree. There's a new Lion King show on the Disney Channel, new generations of kids are getting really into it. Right. The trailer just broke all the fucking records outside of Infinity War. Yeah, but so what?

[01:26:29] Infinity War didn't crack the record. It's true. I don't care about trailer views. I think this movie is like the definition of like a four quadrant slam dunk. You have Beyonce in it. All right, so I've got my... You go ahead.

[01:26:43] I think the music's going to activate people. I think everyone's going to go see it. It's being so as this fucking technical thing you got to see in theaters. Sure, sure, sure. I think it's one of those movies where unlike Infinity War where everyone's like breathlessly like

[01:26:54] talking about everything, no one seems like they're that excited for it and then literally everyone will go see it when it comes out, even the people who hate it. That's all possible. Yeah. But even if that happens, that's not how you get to the top.

[01:27:06] If everyone sees it? Yes. That is how you get to the top. No, how you see it is everyone sees it again and again and again. That's how Titanic and Avatar did it. Okay. You got to get those return viewing. I think they'll get return viewing.

[01:27:16] No, because here are two problems. One, this movie is a bowl of farts. In your opinion. There's no question that this movie is going to be a bowl of farts. I'm not saying it looks good. I'm saying that everyone's going to see it four times.

[01:27:29] No, they are not. Yes, they are too. Because it's going to suck. Much like Beauty and the Beast, it's going to be either you're like, oh, this is exactly like that movie I remember or it'll be like that song in Beauty and the Beast

[01:27:42] where the beast is like, I am the beast and it's terrible that I hate being the beast and you're like, what's this shit song? There's still a whole second Ralph movie to talk about. You know what I mean? Where he's just like, I am the beast.

[01:27:56] For the Lister at home, David's arm movements are really funny. He's doing a really good impression of the beast. And then you come out later and you're like, what was that song? And it's like you read like Tim Rice was like,

[01:28:09] I just wanted to add a song to that perfect score I wasn't involved with. And what I'm saying to you is that I think John Favreau is pitching this one straight down the middle. He is. And he's just essentially doing a shot for shot

[01:28:22] and it's just trying to activate all the feels. It's one of those movies where everyone's going to see that trailer and they get choked up and they go, remember when I was a kid and the fucking 3D release of The Lion King. Now you said it made $200 million.

[01:28:35] I have no idea where you got the number from. It did not. It made 94. Domestic. Oh, I don't know about worldwide. These things matter. I think it's going to be both records. I think it's going to be the highest-grossing domestic worldwide film in history on the record.

[01:28:50] Please tweet at us with what you think the stakes of the bet should be. So who here? I just just to finish this, I have some numbers for you. One, what is the highest-grossing children's film ever made, which this is a children's, you know, PG or lower?

[01:29:06] I hate this argument of yours because your argument is pure children's film. And I would argue perform as well that all these films that are have outgrossed it are films that also worked for children. And that's what The Lion King is going to do

[01:29:18] because it's for the adults who grew up with The Lion King and for the children as well. I understand that. It's closer to Force Awakens in that sense. Right. You're frozen. Your answer is frozen. The 13th highest-grossing film of all time, $1.2 million.

[01:29:32] If you double that gross, double it. You are not the highest-grossing film of all time. That's doubling it. I don't think that's the right comp. What's the right comp? I think any number of things are the right comp. Beauty and the Beast is the same. It's 1.2.

[01:29:47] And if you double it, you don't get to 2.7, which is the avatar number. Now, you just said that you don't care about worldwide. Sure. But now you're throwing out worldwide numbers. Well, I thought the bet was worldwide. I'm talking both. Well, the domestic record is 936 for Star Wars.

[01:30:05] That is very... That's staggering. And the other thing I think... Beauty and the Beast at 504 and no one liked it. It sucked. And this one, no one's gonna like it. It'll probably make $600 million. You're gonna hate it.

[01:30:18] Everyone's gonna like it and then forget about it a year later. But everyone's gonna like it when it comes out. Here's the other thing. I just want to remind you that you gave Jungle Book a good review when it came out.

[01:30:26] And now you're like, no one liked the Jungle Book. I didn't give it a good review. I believe you did. You saw it and you were like, it's good. I saw it and I was like, it's okay. I did not review it. I think Chris reviewed it.

[01:30:36] But here's the other thing. What's the highest-grossing summer release of all time? Yes. Which made $2 billion. It is harder to gross that kind of crazy money in the summer because other movies are coming in and chopping things up. Those big three guys, the sort of the Titans avatar,

[01:30:54] Titanic and Force Awakens, they were winter releases. That's where the money is made. But you kind of got a release line king in the summer because it's sunshiny. Look, I like the back. Ben's in a deep sleep. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

[01:31:09] I'm not gonna lie. Oh, Ben's in a deep sleep? Yeah, because we're not talking about Ralph. I like the bet. The thing is gonna clear two bill no question. So I'm willing to take the risk on the spread in between two bill and the record. That's fine.

[01:31:22] I admire your bet. Episode nine comes out that December. Frozen two comes out that November. There's no question Disney's gonna run the table on that year. Disney's gonna have another depressingly intense year. Yes. Right. You have Avengers 4 in April. It could be a big year.

[01:31:41] It could be a big year. It could be a big year. You know my arguments have merit. Toy Story 4 in June. Yeah, Toy Story 4. Spider-Man in July. Well, that's Sony. Sure. Yeah. Are we gonna be here for five hours? No.

[01:31:55] Okay, so take the Detective Pikachu and Toy Story 4 topics off the minutes. We'll talk about that later another time. The sound you're hearing are a million voices crying out in terror. We'll save that for another. You don't want to talk forky? We'll talk forky another time.

[01:32:14] We'll talk about forky in our big guys episode. Okay, so what else is on the minutes that we have to talk about other than Ralph 2? John Hodgburn left us a voicemail. Oh yeah, let's play the John Hodgburn voicemail. Do you have a cute up-and-or should we say it

[01:32:25] for the end of the episode? Hold on. Is that the last thing on the minutes? I've written down live action people directing animated movies. Here's the thing I'm gonna talk about to fill the time because this episode is running a little short. There's a weird trend I've noticed.

[01:32:42] This is what I was like, write this down and I was like, okay. It'll make sense later. Right. There's a weird trend I've noticed, which is animation often, directing teams, one or two directors, part of it being a large thing where you need people

[01:32:54] with different specialties and multiple people that oversee projects. There's a weird trend I've noticed in which these animated films have one director who has no previous experience in animation. They bring in someone who is like a live action screenwriter or a comedy person. Who else is that?

[01:33:12] Okay, so Ralph breaks the internet. One of the two directors I believe is Phil Johnston. Right. He's like Rich Moore's co-writer or something? He was on the first Ralph but his big thing was... Enzytopia. Okay, but his thing was they pulled him in from live action.

[01:33:26] He's the Cedar Rapids guy. Is he not? He wrote it. Correct. A live action guy who Pixar started doing this being like, let's find good indie screenwriters and have them punch up our scripts and whatever. But then now these guys start to direct these things as well. Interesting.

[01:33:42] This is a man with no animation background. It's a live action background. But he did work with more on the other two. So maybe it's like... I'm saying he came in through the ranks but usually animation directors, it's like you went to animation school.

[01:33:53] Yeah, yeah, I get you. You worked as an animator. You used to draw shit yourself, okay? Yeah. Spider-Man Far From Home. Peter Ramsey, not Far From Home. And then you went to the Spider-Verse. Peter Ramsey, director of Rise of the Guardians.

[01:34:04] There's a second guy, because this one was three directors. The second guy has an animation background. The third person is Rodney Rothman. Sure. Who was like a fucking Letterman writer. Yeah, he was. The Grinch co-director Scott Mosier. Oh, who's that? Kevin Smiths old producer. Oh yeah. Alright.

[01:34:21] He's one of the smodcast people. Yes. Storks co-director Nick Stoller. We all remember Storks. You got these things where they get like a comedy writer, director. Storks and I just got a Wikipedia entry for like Storks. Yeah. Like the birds. There they are.

[01:34:38] Ben is so mad that we're not talking Ralph Wright. Pissed. Okay, did you pull up the voicemail? I just think it's an interesting thing that should be talked about. These animations studios are like bring on someone with an edgy live action sensibility. We don't want these animation nerds.

[01:34:49] Cut that animation nerdery with some guy who's been slinging jokes in the live action sphere with fleshes. You know, these tune jokes. Give me some fleshy writers. Okay, Ben, here's a voicemail from John Hodgman. I have no idea why he left his voicemail.

[01:35:05] Hey Griffin, this is John Hodgman. I'm glad you did not pick up because I don't want to talk to you. I just wanted to leave a voicemail for the blank chat of this podcast.

[01:35:22] Anyway, I was just listening to this as I drive north through a rainstorm for a wedding in Lake Platt. And I just wanted to let you know, it's not working a lot.

[01:35:41] Okay, Ashley Johnson is a series regular on Blind Spot, which is a big hit TV show on a broadcast network on real television.

[01:35:57] So, in a series regular, I would dare say fan favorite playing Patterson, the lab super genius, and now foil to equally talented Enes Esmer of Canada. I bring this up because it's a broadcast show that I was on for two episodes.

[01:36:20] She was my scene partner in two episodes in which I played a bad guy and she was amazing. Amazing, I concur with you, amazing actor obviously.

[01:36:31] And then my character was killed but she continues to go to Stiner Studios every day, which is 20 minutes from my house and work this job. And I go to Stiner Studios every day to drop off, look in the gate and wish that would happen back.

[01:36:47] I go a little personal. Anyway, lots of podcasts reported hearing more of it. I wanted to just correct the record. Ashley Johnson is doing thank you very much.

[01:36:58] Check out my two episode arc with the wonderful Lola Kirk, who is your guest on this podcast on Motorhead in the Jungle. And check out my new podcast, two season, two episode arcs with John Ojman about all my two episode arcs.

[01:37:17] And then check out my multiple episode arcs. Excuse me, my voice is a little strange there. Also check out all my great voice mails on different podcasts and of course, PlayStation Man available now. I'll take it back. Talk to you guys later. Bye.

[01:37:40] Okay, so just a couple explanations not that that needs any explanations because obviously the entire voicemail is very self-evident. You didn't tell me it was mostly about blind spots.

[01:37:51] So of course, when did we talk about voicemails and direct response to six weeks ago our episode on what women want? Oh, yeah. She's the when we said Ashley Johnson. She's the daughter.

[01:38:02] She's the daughter and he was enraged by the fact that we said she still works a lot right and felt the need to correct us. Yeah. Drop a couple of his credits there. Yeah.

[01:38:12] At the beginning when John Hodgman says I'm glad this went straight to voicemail because I don't want to speak to you. I want you to know that I was woken up that morning. Right. I believe this was a weekend of Saturday or Sunday.

[01:38:21] John Hodgman called me at about 9 a.m. I picked up the phone. He went, oh, I was hoping you wouldn't pick up. Please hang up. I'm going to call back and leave a voicemail. And yeah, no further explanation. Obviously John's not welcome on the show.

[01:38:36] We'll never be happy to play his voicemails anytime. Anytime, but he will not be on this show. Yeah. And you can take that to the bank. Just like you can take Griffin's lanking prediction to the bank.

[01:38:44] And you will be able to get out a small business loan on the back of that prediction. A subprime business loan more like. Okay. So how much time do we have left? How many hours? Let's start talking about Ralph Breaks the Internet.

[01:38:58] Well, before we do, guys, it's weird how no one's listening at this point. I have all these VHS tapes growing up and you're so retro like Ralph. I yeah, I'm fucking Ralph. You're eight and you need to be multi polygon. Yeah. What am I going to do?

[01:39:16] I can't keep in these freaking VHS. There's two things here. One VHS is they're big. They're cool, but they're large, heavy space. They do. They're cool to, you know, we don't all have video players in our homes anymore. That's another thing you gotta learn.

[01:39:36] Has arrived and get yourself a legacy box. If you get a legacy box, you can turn those VHS is could change like that. Your old photos. Okay. Put something digital. You put them in the box. You know, film reels from the 70s. Yeah. VHS is from your childhood.

[01:39:56] Anything with memories perhaps that are precious to you. Clunky physical media. You got to go into the interwebs like Ralph. You go to legacy. Get in the cloud. They send you a box, a legacy box and the box is physical. It's a nice tangible box you can hold.

[01:40:11] You put the analog guy. I like that. You'll love the box. It's quality box. Good card stock. It is. It's a good box. You put the things you want digitized into the box. They've got good, you know, safety bar codes for every item.

[01:40:26] You're going to get everything you send back. It's not like they're going to take your tapes away from you. But it's just now you got options. They give you personalized email updates to let you know how it's all going. Yeah.

[01:40:36] 450,000 families trust the legacy box to do this stuff. They got a decade of experience. It's all done right here in America and they're going to turn this stuff into anything DVD digital download thumb drive. What do you want? Here's the thing, dude.

[01:40:49] Even if you're a physical media loving packrat like me, right? Yeah. I like to buy a Blu-ray but I like to get that digital code inside. So I know I got options. You know what I'm saying? Right.

[01:41:01] I got a digital copy in the cloud and a physical copy. Right. That's the thing with legacy box. They were turning this stuff back to you. All right. But can I trust the people that are handling this really? Really?

[01:41:11] Send the most trust material or just digitize our home movies and photos in the country. I'm afraid you would even ask that question. Why would we even ask that? I just needed to know. You can trust them with your life. Okay.

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[01:41:36] 40% off your first order. 40 is big actually. Ben, you like big things. That's a big discount. We rarely offer a discount that big. It makes the money smaller. But it is a big discount. The discount's big. The price you're paying is small. That's good.

[01:41:51] So if you go to legacybox.com slash check, you'll save 40% today. You can get started preserving your past. Legacy box.com slash check. Great. So let's consult the man again. This episode's very much on track. Absolutely. Definitely did not see this episode being over stuffed and annoying.

[01:42:08] And it definitely hasn't been Ralph breaks the Internet. Then takes us up. Good. So that is what happens. Are we done? Yeah. All right. So I already said, I saw this at a press screen. We've talked about this movie somewhat, but Ben, I can

[01:42:24] confirm just seems so happy and relaxed watching this movie sitting next to you guys. We want to see each other. We went to see it together. Not each other. And we did see each other. I'm worried my brain broke. My brain broken. My ears are hurting.

[01:42:39] Where did you see it? Kips Bay. We already said all this. I almost got hit by a car. I was like an hour ago. I forgot it was Kips Bay. I talked about all of this. It was raining as we know.

[01:42:48] I use my ANC A plus Stubbs membership. Congratulations. Thank you. Ralph breaks the Internet. Yeah, he did it. 112 minutes of fun. He does break the Internet. It's pretty long. Pretty long. Pretty stuff. No animated short to open it up. No.

[01:43:05] Because the first one had the paper man, right? Yes. Which won that? Academy award. No. Oscar. Yeah, no. This had no short because the movie is a bit long. No short because movie long. No short. Just one longie. That's what you call the film, a longie.

[01:43:22] So here is the premise of Ralph breaks the Internet. Or do you want to handle it? I'd like to hear what you have to say, David. It's pretty complex. It's a complicated plot. So life, I believe it's literally six years later. Right?

[01:43:36] Like they, it's the same amount of time. They said we've barely been apart for the last six years. And the routine now is Vanellope's in her game, kicking ass. Ralph's in his game, kicking ass. They hang out all the time. Right?

[01:43:47] When the arcade closes, they go to Tapper's. They have fun. They got a pack, man. They pick up a burger. Ralph loves this routine. There was a burger report in this movie. Can I report? Go ahead. Vanellope eats a burger in like the opening five minutes.

[01:43:59] Thank you for that burger. Vanellope Vaughn treats. Yeah. No, it's like Ralph has settled into a very happy friend routine with his pal Vanellope. Vanellope does seem a little restless right away. She thought much like I feel like most of us do.

[01:44:20] God, if I could just get this one accomplishment in my career, if I could hit this one benchmark, I'd be so happy. I never, I think the plane about ever again. She's been pushing against the door for so long. Finally, the door is open.

[01:44:31] But what's on the other side? Oh, that's kind of the same stuff. Right. And then you, your ambitions continue to grow. So Ralph builds her a new track and sugar rush complain. She knows every track, she knows every move.

[01:44:43] She knows how to live in a video game, right? Builds are a new track, but this causes a lot of constant because like when they try the new track, they break the steering wheel on the arcade cabinet, the players. It turns out that that arcade cabinets no longer

[01:44:58] in production. It's kind of 10 years old and the guy is like, I can't really, and he looks for a spare part, but it costs $10 to dollars on eBay and the Ed O'Neill arcade owner, sort of a lovely man is because it is funny that he's

[01:45:12] like a nice lovely man considering that any arcade I ever went to as a child was run by criminals. I feel like he's very specifically riffing on the nice old man from King of Kong. Yeah. Who wears the referee. Yeah. Right. So criminals.

[01:45:29] So sugar rush might be your local arcade was run by a killer croft, right? That's why BET was playing on every TV. I was going to finish that one, but I let you have it. Merry Christmas. What a fucking terrible movie. Yeah.

[01:45:43] Can't wait for Birds of Prey the liberation of... I think Birds of Trey is going to be good. Yeah. That's my film I'm making about Trey Parker. I don't know. Spice and disguise. Bird. Good. So the game's in trouble. Yes.

[01:46:00] How are they going to fix sugar rush before it's going to get unplugged? It looks like the same. Same premise except this one is sugar rush. Now this game's going to get unplugged. Certainly it'll be solved in a similar way. Here's one thing I like right away. What?

[01:46:11] No, Vanellope's not mad at Ralph for making the new thing. No. You know, it's not one of those forced drama things where she's like, Ralph, you caused this trouble. She's like whatever. Because they're annoying, but whatever. They're good friends. Friendship can solve anything. All the racers are displaced.

[01:46:26] Yes. They're taken in by the Wreck-It Ralph families and stuff like that. Felix and Calhoun adopt 17 children. Now this is my biggest disappointment in the film. I said this to Ben, I thought they were going to keep

[01:46:37] cutting back to them and it was going to be a nice little subplot, little blackout sketch updates. I don't really mean that was planned initially and there just wasn't time. Yeah. But I do miss getting Felix and Calhoun and I miss the racers.

[01:46:49] This is just so much other stuff. I miss Francis Fulger Butter. Did you notice? I'm not going to be standaleged. Did you notice the taffeta mutton fudge who of course was voiced by Mindy K. You're going to have a voice by Melissa Vies and

[01:46:59] you're doing a Mindy Killing impression. I know she should be doing an own Wilson impression or whatever. Yeah. But what has the arcade also gotten Ben? A Wi-Fi router. What? So now they can go into the internet, which they only vaguely understand and because they're retro game casters.

[01:47:18] Well, I don't understand. Anything with humans. They can get into that's true. Right. Right. So they go into the router through the plug and they're digitized. I do like that they just get the tron thing out of the way like very early on. Because you're playing tron.

[01:47:31] Like second 100 of the movie. It's like here we are doing light cycles. We know this movie is very indebted to tron. Moving on. So the world of the internet is sort of like this endless city filled with people. There are two kinds of people in the internet.

[01:47:44] There are programs right that like live in the internet and there are like little avatar people, which are users. Right. The programs are kind of like trying to get their attention. And I do like much like the real internet. When you first see it, you're like, wow, the

[01:47:58] possibilities that seem so utopian. It's almost like a Logan's run type society. And the closer you look, you're like, wow, this is actually really frightening. It's kind of like a Logan's run society. That's why I mean ready player one is my cop. This is good ready player one.

[01:48:12] What Ben said the second the movie ended. Well, that's what I said the second the movie ended. You can ask the mother of blankies Emily and she did. I said it to her in the lobby. Please try to be considerate this time. I'm sorry.

[01:48:26] We were really like Ben and I had gone through a lot by the time the movie ended. So when you said you'd seen the Spies in the Sky's trailer, you had been hit by a car. You had been hit by a car. I got tapped.

[01:48:37] I got love tapped. And so when Ben turned to me and said this is good ready player one, it meant a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like I understand you saw the movie with Emily. That's cool. I wish I was there. Thanks for inviting me. I'm sorry.

[01:48:51] I'm sorry. I was hoping for like a little bit of ice and melted or something. Okay, I'm losing the boys. All right, let's get back on track. Okay. All right. So we're in the Internet. The design of the Internet is great.

[01:49:03] You like I like that at the top you have all the sleek stuff. But then of course down the bottom got the dark dark way. Jordan Pearson's hanging out in Dark Alley is a bunch of fedora shops. I'm not sure if you've seen the movie yet.

[01:49:17] I'm not sure. Dark Alley is a bunch of fedora shops. Hater is playing the little ad guy, right? But he's not credited. What's up with that? What's his name? This character is great. It's not slarmy. JP Spamley. Spamley. I love that. And he's like kind of throwbacky

[01:49:34] Internet like. He's got like a flat cap. You know, he's like the shoe shine that you go to for information. A war film. The joke is like there's this sort of like right forgotten Internet kind of a part of pop up. Right.

[01:49:50] The annoying pop ups, which is sort of being like more and more discarded. Right. And then you've got the algorithm and the YouTube analog, right? Which is like more like the new Internet where everything is sort of carefully calibrated to attract the most viewers. Right.

[01:50:06] But let's say the central obstacle here is they need to get enough money to buy. This scene is so funny. The wheel. I think they go to physical eBay. I do love that really drawn out scene where Ralph puts it together by Felix going, boy. Right.

[01:50:22] But they go to physical eBay and it helps me like I got this figured out you just have to say a bigger number. Yes. But then they get so into impressing each other with how big the numbers that it ends up costing $27,000. Something like that.

[01:50:35] I just think that's insane. It was originally $200. I like that there's still children in a way. Yes. Like right? The inherent premise of the movie is they need to raise so much money just because they're kind of silly. But Nelpi's kind of like a little rascal. Yeah.

[01:50:52] She feels like an hour-gang comedy hit. Right. Yeah. And Ralph's just a big goofball. Big galoot. So they need to make money. Right. And they're like, how do we make money? If only there was a way to make money playing games and they remember that they saw Spamley,

[01:51:08] the pop-up bad guy who's kind of played like the dodgy, like Gypsy Cap guy. Hey, come over here. I've got some of this for you. At the airport. Right. And then we get to the most important part of the movie. The most important part of the movie.

[01:51:20] Ben lost his gourd damn money. Gourd is the best. You see Gourd? Yeah, Gourd's cool. He's got a turtleneck. Sure. Big eyes. What? Gourd's arms are weird. What more do you need, David? Because it's like, it's down in the dark web.

[01:51:42] There's like the slug guy by Alfred Mullin. Of course. I immediately tagged DM Jamie Loftus and sent out for Mullin. It's got a slug quaddo. This movie is so dense. It is. But Gourd's arms move like the old mobile game snake. Yeah.

[01:51:59] They sort of pipe out their heart angles. You only see his eyeballs. The turtleneck's up high. He's like, Kilroy was here. He's like half of a head and a nose. What's the joke with Gourd? It's just good.

[01:52:12] I can't tell you what the joke is, but I can tell you it plays. In the ad played in your theater? Oh, God, you kidding me? Gourd kills. Gourd kills. I actually asked a projectionist to rewind.

[01:52:25] Our screening took six hours because he kept on making them replay the Gourd scene. Ben lost his mind at Gourd. Yep. Gourd's cool. He has nothing to do with the movie. He's just kind of there. He does. He hands them the thing. He also, his cousin is shady.

[01:52:49] If you can get Shank's car, you'll have the money. He's like, because first he's like, right, go because there's the bizarre true fact that these online games have their own internal commerce. You can actually make real money gathering virtual items.

[01:53:04] I have a, I don't know what do you call them, gunters who are searching through games looking for digital items they can flip. Artemis we stand on. I don't know why I think it's funny to say we stand on legend, but it is. I don't either.

[01:53:18] And I'm so glad that we have months of episodes booked up and what you keep saying that the time the episodes come out, you will probably be irritated with your own bit. But that bit, Fox. What? Stand on legend, Fox. Oh, thank you. As a bit. Right.

[01:53:33] And Fox slaps. They're like, we can't make like three bucks a pop here. We need money fast. So he's like, all right, we'll steal this big car from slaughter race. Right. Which is sort of like an online. I feel like this is right.

[01:53:45] This is the Grand Theft Auto Sims world. They were trying to make it even like dialed up even more with this kind of Mad Max flavor. But that's also got this like online MMO kind of vibe because you see the people playing in it.

[01:53:56] I like how they're animated the weird player characters. Yeah. Really coordinated. But it feels like it's a little bit like the fortnight thing to where it's like just this never-ending campaign to try to collect as much shit.

[01:54:06] And I just like that there's some video game satire, you know, we're not completely dropping the video gaming stuff. Yeah. You have a Gal Gadot. The great Cal Gadot. A coup for this movie in terms of social media influencing according to a deadline article I read.

[01:54:22] I hate those deadline articles. Isn't it crazy though? We don't know if this movie is going to perform because Tom Cruise isn't very active on social media. But then they do the opposite with like no name actors you haven't heard of.

[01:54:36] It's like but he does have the 5.6 million. Logan. I don't know everything's bad. It's burnt down in the industry. Let Ralph wreck it. No, no, no. The future is influencers. What's the other thing? It's like Ralph should be allowed to wreck the internet. He should. It's bad.

[01:54:51] It's a bad place. If Ralph broke the internet tomorrow, I think everyone would be like, it is for the best. I kind of wish the movie ended with Ralph actually permanently breaking the internet. It would be crazy though. It would be crazy.

[01:55:03] And then at the end of the movie he looks, the audience straight in the eye and goes, makes you think huh? He points to not. This is what I was worried the movie was going to be.

[01:55:12] If Ralph broke the internet right in this little thing he got going, what the hell would you two do? What would we do? You're going to go outside? God that's a good point. Shit. For two guys who hate the internet, Ralph.

[01:55:25] For two guys who hate the internet we really haven't learned how to be good at things that aren't the internet. All my eggs are in that basket. The only place where I have any capital. Wow. So that doesn't work though. Right? They don't get the car.

[01:55:47] Gal Gadot stops them. They get close. They get close and that's when Gal Gadot goes like, game recognized game, good racer. She's a great race sequence. Unbelievable race. Awesome. It's a really good race. And I like that Vanellope has this great. She's a good racer.

[01:56:03] She's a good racer and she gets called out for being good by her like hero, this badass lady named, what was her name, Slaughter? Schenke. Oh, Schenke. Schenke. She's also like, it's like my genuine life philosophy is weaponize your weaknesses. And this is what she's doing.

[01:56:21] Like she's become such a good racer because she uses the glitch thing to her advantage. She doesn't try to hide it or overcome it. So what weaknesses are you recognizing? I mean, web. Dependency on the internet. Timothy Simons plays Butcher Boy. He's great. Who are the other?

[01:56:38] Alley Wong is in there. Yeah. So the other one, Hamish Blake, you know, I don't know. He's Pyro. I thought Pyro would be Ben's breakout character and then Gord just stole the crown. Gord just stomps everything. But so that doesn't work out.

[01:56:53] So instead Ralph decides to pursue becoming a viral star. He goes, Schenke sends him to yes. Who is six S's played by Academy Award nominee, Taraji P. Henson. Correct. Who is who is like they, the algorithm buzz to yeah, whatever it's YouTube, right.

[01:57:11] And Ralph starts making viral videos. I also think that's funny. It's good commentary. It's funny. They have them do funny Mimi kind of stuff. And I just like the idea that it's also crafted. Like, you know what I mean? It's not just random.

[01:57:25] It's more like she's like, no, this is how it works. These are the 25 things. Right. There are like wheels to the system. Right. You want to blitz it. I also like the, I was at the spot going like, is this the

[01:57:35] moment the logic of the movie is totally going to break? How do they explain that like people in the real world are watching YouTube videos of a like independently thinking avatar from a video game? But that becomes part of the thing where it's like, oh, it's so random.

[01:57:51] What is this video? Right. Because that's the thing when you watch some weird meme, you're like, I don't, you don't know who made it. You're just like, where did this come from? It's like all our base are belong to us or whatever.

[01:58:00] It's like, oh, someone took this weird like thing from our like pop culture memories and put it on a goat. Right. And I don't know, like there, I love the pop-up thing where like when you like, you know, have an aggressive campaign,

[01:58:14] you're sending out these like armies of people who are just going around being like, click on this, click on this, click on this and the people are like, oh okay, click. And the second they click, they're encased in a car that takes them to the fucking video.

[01:58:25] But then the hard cut to like Sam Richardson in the cubicle going like, huh. Right. Hey, you should watch this is totally random. It's good. Yeah, it's good. It's like, it kind of gets at the whole sort of thing.

[01:58:35] There's a really good Ted talk I watched yesterday about how weird the sort of YouTube algorithms are, especially in relation to children's YouTube programming. Yeah. Because you know, there are all these people where it's like, there's certain types of kids' videos that perform

[01:58:47] really well on YouTube because parents are just like put on a playlist. But then people have figured out what those buzzwords are and try to create videos that will just end up circulated into those playlists. Right. But a lot of them are like, oh, it's like Elsa from

[01:59:01] Frozen gets pregnant and they're like weirdly dark, but they're not parodies. And no one can figure out if they're made by algorithms and robots or if they're actually made by people who just crave and want the ad money. Right, because this is like what Baby Shark is

[01:59:14] and shit, right? Where it's like all this stuff gets like filtered a thousand times by algorithms. Right. I don't know. And you're like, is it algorithms replicating what people want or is it people replicating what algorithms say? It's kind of both. Yeah.

[01:59:27] It's all dark stuff this movie's making you think about. So the other thing he does is he goes to the Disney personality. I mean, Vanellope, well, while he's doing this, Vanellope goes to the Disney personality quiz and meets all the Disney princesses.

[01:59:36] Right, originally when they started developing this movie, Disney and Fendi, my favorite video game of all time was Soul in Existence, which was an online video game in which you had all the different Disney properties and that's how they were going to work these characters.

[01:59:46] And we stand a legend. We don't stand that legend. We stand that legend. So instead it doesn't matter. It's just she meets the Disney princesses and you also have a fucking scene. It's like a good sketch. Yeah. It's a good sketch. It's well written. Those are good gags.

[02:00:00] Yeah, they're okay. They're good gags. I like the change of ruses, the idea of being comfy to them. That I like. I like when they do the spinning Batman logo thing. Yeah. It's fun. I like the comfy shit. They'll look cool. I think it's good commentary too.

[02:00:13] It's good commentary. I was afraid they were going to hit it too hard. I thought it was good. I think they hit it a little too hard. I just think it's kind of like that. I like that they come back at the end.

[02:00:21] I thought it was clever the way they all use their powers together. I like when people use powers together. The kind of dudes that get upset by that kind of shit, it's I'm like, it makes me happy that there will hopefully see this

[02:00:30] or have some hot take on the Internet about why it's offensive to them. So that's what makes me excited about it. It's going to bum out men's rightsy fuckers. Yeah, like David. Both frozen princesses are there. Yeah, they're both princesses. Princess Anna, princess Elsa.

[02:00:44] What are you talking about? They're both princesses. Do you think Vanellope counts as the first Jewish Disney princess with Serious Old Princess? 100%. I'm glad you agreed me on that. Now they haven't made her officially part of the princess brand and they haven't done the same with the

[02:00:56] Frozen Girls because Frozen is so big as its own marketing thing that they don't want to saturate the market with having them in two different brands. Two different silos. Disney's really weird. The whole princess thing is a little weird. By the way, I'm now CEO of Disney. Great.

[02:01:08] Can I have some money? There's an announcement on this episode. No, we're actually functioning at a loss. Did you see that yesterday Ed Solomon was tweeting about the fact that he got his like accounting report for Men in Black because he wrote the first Men in Black.

[02:01:23] It's still in the red or whatever. And they're claiming the film is still losing money every year. The first Men in Black. How could it be losing money now? Right. And he's like, of course that's why you're currently filming a fourth one because the first one still hasn't

[02:01:34] made its money back. Trying to dig our way out. I don't understand what you mean. In Hollywood accounting they're always like, there's just no profits to give you. I'm sorry if you look at these balance sheets, we're broke. How can they do that? So here's what's crazy.

[02:01:46] Here's what's crazy. Draft day by all accounts lost money and I still make decent money off residuals because that movie didn't really make money. So once it finally did crawl its way to profitability through selling to airlines and fucking iTunes rentals and all that stuff,

[02:02:04] they couldn't really pretend like there was too much money to go around. So the contracts that are written up where that movie, everyone other than the top five actors got paid scale. So the agreement was that you have deferred royalties if the film ever made into profitability

[02:02:17] is fine. But if something like Men in Black makes so much fucking money, that the studio stands to make a ton, what they do is all sorts of weird insider trading where like they did this with like the Harry Potter movies and smoking gun a bunch of these

[02:02:31] documents. And they were like, oh, we're sorry, Harry Potter 5 didn't make any money because we spent $200 million advertising on billboards that were also owned by Warner Brothers. So Warner Brothers Studios, the film division. But it's like because they're technically renting from another part of Warner Brothers, it

[02:02:48] counts as them spending money. Can say the movie didn't make any money because we spent too much on advertising. As it's flaws. Yes. Can we say this? Yes. Maybe Ralph will break capitalism in the third one. I want the third one to just be like Ralph breaks America.

[02:03:04] Like what if they like, what if he got an ATM? Yeah. And Ralph went into the very notion of like Wall Street economics. What if Ralph became Bitcoin and then tore down the capitalist society that we are all slaves to Ralph coin? Ralph coin.

[02:03:20] So Ralph buys a virus. Why is he by the virus? Oh, well, right. Because Vanellope really like slaughter race and wants to move to this game. Right. Ralph is nervous. That's the thing that the princesses tell her that she has to sing the song to that

[02:03:35] part in the water. Fine with that musical number written by a man. It was funny then was losing his mind near gourd level. So if you for you then turn to me and he was like, I love this. This is just my movie.

[02:03:46] Because he said you said at the moment you were like texting you all day being like Ralph's going to wreck it. I just know it. We should see it in 3D. Make the wrecking look better. How was that was the 3D? I thought it was good.

[02:03:57] Yeah, it was good. Ralph Plainfield said we shouldn't have seen it in 3D. I thought it was good. But but you were saying like this is the kind of world I want to live in. Like you related to Vanellope now. Oh, 100% singing about wanting

[02:04:08] to live in her great grime world. That to me is so exciting to finally see like the kind of person I am on the screen, which is like a kind of dude that would be into like sort of a like terror like like a shitty downtown burning

[02:04:21] LA with like, you know, scam artists and hobos. The first movie is like this is my origin story with Ralph in the second movie. It was like this is me now with Vanellope. Right. Yeah. I'm trying to find my way in this modern crazy world. That's good.

[02:04:36] That's good that I had a new arc for you new character that you could identify with. Yeah. I sympathize with Ralph. I get it. He's very insaturated. I get the French thing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You're afraid of change. I want like a crew to like pyro. Yeah. Pyro.

[02:04:54] Shank. I want a crew. I think Ali Wong's care just fell in my right. Let's find out. Felony. Yeah. If anyone wants to be in my shady crew out there, tweet at me. Yeah. I think you'll get a lot of requests. I just got a hello fennel tattoo.

[02:05:10] We should talk about this very briefly, which is fucking cool. Crazy. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. So I think people will want to join your crew. Seeing as how people are permanently putting your words on their body. Ben's fennel gang. Ben's fennel gang. Remember when you were just

[02:05:26] trying to like say like hello fellas and gentlemen or something or something like that? I was thinking it kind of went down if I had to redo it. If we did something, I was like, hey, well, no, it was so fast. Yeah. You went like hello fennel. Fuck.

[02:05:42] Yeah. I think we were vamping because like Griffin was like, yeah. Ralph. So he buys this virus. It replicates. I'm so tired. It feeds on insecurity. And then you realize it's it right replicates like right the the weakness in your system replicates. Ben will be his glitch thing

[02:05:59] and that starts fucking up the game. So they all have to get out and Ralph realizes what's happening and it meets to it right away, which I love. I just hate. I'm so tired of people. Right. Because she could just be thinking like it's my fault.

[02:06:14] I shouldn't have left my own game. I shouldn't be bringing my glitch around and he's like, I did it. I didn't expect this to happen. I'm sorry. She appropriately gets angry at him. But in order to free her from the game because if she was stuck

[02:06:26] in there when the game shut down, she would have gotten trapped because she's a glitch. She's not of that world. And order to free her, he also lets the virus out and the virus starts attacking the internet at large. Well, yeah. But what it attacks is Ralph's

[02:06:38] own personal insecurity. It replicates it. And here is the thing. I had seen the movie before Ben and then asked if he would like it. I said, I think you'll like it. And then I was sort of thinking, I was like, there's one thing you'll really

[02:06:56] like just based on the things that you like. Ralph, big things. You like Ralph. You like Ralph. Could Ralph get bigger? Now, here's what's especially good about what happens. One, the monster is big. Very big. Huge. Two, the monster is made of many Ralph's.

[02:07:15] One might say a big amount of Ralph's and Ralph himself is big. Right. So many Ralph's a big amount makes big Ralph a big Ralph. But also individual Ralph is relatively big. Big big. Three bigs. Sure. A big amount of big Ralph's make a bigger.

[02:07:32] Did you like that thing? My fucking head exploded. It was fucking all the things. So anyway, that he was big. Yeah. Cool. Listen, more big stuff. Yeah. He gets all big. He's a big Ralph monster and all it wants is to be friends with an L.A.P.

[02:07:50] Yeah. I do feel like this is probably where the much hyped you can't believe it. It's going to break you. All the feels emotional ending of Toy Story 4 is probably gone. Oh, my guess is that Toy Story 4 is moving towards some permanent separation of Buzz and Woody

[02:08:09] and thus Woody from the rest of the toys or what have you. That is my sense I got from all the reading. I've done about this complicated. I've been doing these like interviews with the like, you know, we just recorded the last scenes and it's so emotional.

[02:08:23] It's the show of Toy Stories. You can't deal with it. What a choice or shoots nine hours. Four is nine hours long. Yes. Yeah, whatever. Toy Story 4. I just don't give a shit. Please show a little bit of respect. No. Yeah. Wreck-It Ralph 2.

[02:08:42] Ben turned to me when the Toy Story 4 trailer happened. It also played I assume. Yes. And he said, what happens if this movie is bad? And I said, Ben, I'm spending every hour of my day preparing for it. Right. You're like, like building a fortress.

[02:08:55] You know, you're like buttressing every wall. I'm like Michael Shannon and take shelter. Like everyone around me is like, are you okay? And I'm like, this is necessary. I just need to be prepared. You've become a doomsday prepper. You're so weird. Yeah. You and your toy story. Yeah.

[02:09:11] No, okay. Leave all of them alone. I just... I like Forky. I think Forky is cool with Stan and legend in this house. Go on. What you get touched by is the idea that they're like, we're fine with this

[02:09:25] and we'll see each other every once in a while. And that thing where Ralph's like six months, he'll go by like nothing. But it's a little sad. And it's sort of about... And because this movie is so much about the kind of commerce behind everything in the internet

[02:09:38] and sort of behind everything you have to do when you're grown up. And I feel like that's kind of what it's about. It's sort of like, it's hard to find... You can't really have that situation where you're getting everything you want. Like the job you want,

[02:09:51] the friends you want, the money you want. It's all in one place. Sometimes you might have to give some of this up. So I think about my father and he's got his five oldest friends and he still calls them up and has really long phone conversations with them.

[02:10:04] That's very nice. You know, and it's like the five people who you really like double down on. Between his childhood friends and a couple of his long time... Yeah, I get you. ...gambling buds. Right. All of them shank by Rome. I want to restate that my father

[02:10:18] kicked gambling in the 80s before that continues to be circular on the internet as a current recurring problem. Not true. But I feel like... Look at you for example. And this is a reason why I think a lot of the critical community

[02:10:32] is very emotionally affected by this movie. Sure. Sure. Look at you. You're working in an office with Shirley Lee and the two of you hit it off. And then you start getting your separate careers and you're both doing well and moving on to other things,

[02:10:44] but in the same city and then she moves to LA, right? She has to fucking move to LA. Sure. Right. And it sucks that she has to move to LA. You hear that, Shirley? Yeah. But also you still got your slack thread and that's what the internet is.

[02:10:54] Like the end of the movie, Ralph and Valpy can still face time. That's a different point. And maybe they'll see each other twice a year. You know, and the other thing for me and I have to bring this up...

[02:11:03] The same thing splits us apart, keeps us in contact stuff. I moved back to America from England when I was 22. And I mean, we need to cut something out of this episode because it's too long. So here's an easy just flag it right now.

[02:11:16] I had to leave three of my very best friends behind in doing so. And you know, one of them ended up moving to another country too. And we've got our WhatsApp, you know, group chats where we're talking to each other

[02:11:27] all the time and one of them has a kid now and you know, it's like one of them is getting married, blah, blah, blah. And yeah, you know, you got to tarred but there's ways to stay in touch even if you can't

[02:11:36] have it all in the same place. Right. But also I just get that I think that I was really worried this movie was going to be like you say, Ralph turning to the camera and being like, think about it! The internet!

[02:11:49] And you also don't want that shitty ending where like Valpy is like, no, you're right. I should stay in the game. I've been in this whole time. Or whatever they find some fucking tunnel where it's like, who cares? We can see each other all the time.

[02:12:00] And I just find it like, I do feel like these children's films are moving towards like messy conclusions where they're like consequences and it's like you can't have it all and that's fine. Because in the arcade there's a day and a night, you know?

[02:12:12] And at night they can sleep. Once you're online 24 sevens baby online never sleeps. Yeah. So she's got to live there. Yeah, she's got to live there. And the thing of Ralph, big Ralph, big monster Ralph, right? Big monster Ralph. It's just like a cute, not too annoying way

[02:12:30] of making fun of kind of like mail in security online, rampaging and ruining things. You know? I think that's funny. The comments section I thought they were going to go deeper into and then it was like, oh right this movie's PG

[02:12:41] they can't spend too much time in the comments. We can't in what the comments represent. To find cock. That was truly I was like, oh interesting like nerve they've hit there and we immediately have to take our finger off of the nerve.

[02:12:53] It's really more just say, don't read the comments joke is what you get. And I also think that having the princesses come back. I pay like yes and I like that they sort of are the heroes at the that saved the day at the end.

[02:13:06] And David, you and I have talked about what we love most in the superhero movies that we love is good team action when you have the power sets combining right the things that differentiate the good X-Men films from the bad X-Men films by the Avengers.

[02:13:20] The first Avengers very thrilling. I think this is a similarly well executed sequence. And I think it's nice that because you know the history of these princesses they don't have to spend time setting up within the movie

[02:13:31] at the end it's very clever the way they all combine their power sets and you don't give them powers they wouldn't have had on their own but now they're greater as a whole. They're greater combined and the Poison Apple breaks the rope

[02:13:41] and they all can sew the clothes with Gus and Jack and clever shit in the Ralph Wears address and it's nice that no one shames him. True. I guess yeah you're right. You're right. He just wants to be comfy in his dress and it's cool

[02:13:53] and no one's making jokes about him being dressed in a disgusting woman's piece of clothing the way they used to. I just couldn't tell with more candle head that's all. I know you like candle head and I like Francis Fluggerbutter

[02:14:03] and we're happy to announce that as the CEO of Disney. They are like in it for five seconds, yeah. David and I are starting a new show for the Disney Plus streaming service called Candlehead Fluggerbutter. And also it's a total weird. I'm being told it's been cancelled.

[02:14:18] Well, that was a fun fact. I actually have a show to announce too. It's called Ben and Gord Hangout. So that your show is kind of like the deus and marrow like a vice land. It's like a talk show with just you and Gord Hangout

[02:14:31] and our show David and I's show it's like Cagney and Lacy but with candle head and Fluggerbutter. Anyway now it's 2018 so the closing credit song is Imagine Dragon. Right. And we've moved lateral. And they do that scene from the trailer just as a mid credit

[02:14:46] scene because they had nowhere to put it in the movie. Pancake milk. The bunnies. What do you think about the name Imagine Dragons? I mean, it really makes me think. Yeah. Kind of makes you imagine actually. Yeah. I don't like that it's a demand. So tired.

[02:15:02] No, no, no. Hold on. It feels like the name of the band is yelling at me which I don't like. Let's play the box. Sort of like a command. Yeah. Okay. So box office game and this did very well.

[02:15:14] I'm going to get confused between the five day and the. Well, hold on if I could because this is an important episode. I just want to maybe I'll see my final thoughts. You know what? I'm gonna write a little thing while you do. Okay. Cool. You can definitely.

[02:15:25] Okay. You can do it now. No, I'm going to write. So what this did 86 for the five day. Let me find the exact numbers because box office mode is being fussy. It did 84 I believe for the five day Thanksgiving weekend.

[02:15:40] This has just become a weekend at Disney on frozen launch here Cocoa launch here tangled launch here. Mm hmm. You had Creed 2 make 55 biggest live action Thanksgiving. Very healthy debut and can I put it on the record here? Oh, this is your on the record?

[02:15:53] I had a eureka moment. Wait, what was your crazy on the record you want to do? This is the one. Okay. This is it during my screening of Creed 2 and you're going to scoff at me.

[02:16:01] But I just want to say this now because if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, I look like a genius because no one else is saying this right now. I had a lighting ball hit me during Creed 2. Watching it play to a rabbit audience, right?

[02:16:14] Seeing the undeniable talent of Michael B. Jordan. Knowing this movie was was running laps around the rest of the competition, the adult competition in the box office. I think Michael B. Jordan is going to win best supporting actor this year for Black Panther.

[02:16:25] I think they're going to give him the Academy Award. Be nice for best supporting actor. I think that's their way to both say, oh, we fucked up not giving him a nomination for Creed.

[02:16:34] He's clearly a real deal movie star and we have to give something legitimate to Black Panther because it's such a cultural model. I think it's a fine on the record. I don't know where the winds are going to blow on best supporting actor. But we'll see.

[02:16:44] That's why I'm saying no one else is making this claim, so I want to pin this right now. I think Michael B. Jordan is going to get a sort of cumulative. I understand. Black Panther, the general acceptance of Michael B. Jordan and celebration of a new movie star.

[02:16:56] You put it on the record. I put it on the record. Well, I think fantastic Beast of the Crimes. Grindelwald is winning that category. That's right. Fogler, it's time. We have to acknowledge the great work of Mutton Chop, Baker McGee. I don't know what his name is.

[02:17:13] I almost pulled it. Genuinely, Jacob Wazowski? It's something like that. Jacob Wazowski. Well, the tough thing is they did just announce... Talk about this. Yeah. You have to beep that out. They did just announce that they've decided to run Niffler

[02:17:31] for supporting because some people thought Niffler was going to be the lead. Niffler is pretty cool. Niffler is cool. He fucking steals. Did you see it? No, I wouldn't know. Niffler is like a big part of the movie.

[02:17:41] I'm going to repeat the joke I made to you the other night. I would not see that movie at one point. Good job. Thank you. The Grinch has made 180. You've seen it eight times. God. Behemian Rhapsody has now made 152. Yeah. You got some other hits in there.

[02:17:57] So happy Behemian Rhapsody is making that money. I got Robin Hood, which is one of the only movies I have ever walked out of. You walked out of it? I walked out of it. For what reason? Well, I went to see it at a press screening. Hummel Rick.

[02:18:11] And you know, five to 10 minutes in, I was sort of like, well, I'm not reviewing this. Like, because it was sort of coming out Thanksgiving weekend anyways, like a hugely busy week with a bunch of movies I had to review, right? Right.

[02:18:22] So I'm like pretty quickly, I'm like getting the picture like, I don't like this. So I don't think it's going to be worth reviewing. You would already gotten your bias paycheck from Disney to give Ralph a good review. So why? Right. Yeah.

[02:18:34] And then like 15 minutes and I'm like, wow, this thing sucks. You know what I mean? Or I'm like, oh, I wasn't ready. Like I figured this was going to be kind of like the King Arthur thing where it's stupid, but whatever. But I'm like, this isn't even fun.

[02:18:48] Five hours with an intermission. It's not that long. And so I, but I stuck it out for 90 minutes. Yeah. Because Robin Hood's getting ready to fucking, you know, kill the sheriff or not. I can remember whatever you find out where he got the hood from. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.

[02:19:05] I don't know. You'd think you do honestly, you know, cause the movie opens with like a scene set in the crusades that's like shot like the Hurt Locker, like they're in, they're in like khakis and they're like shooting arrows, like machine guns. It's fucking insane.

[02:19:16] Robin Hood is trying to figure out how to puncture a Capri son and can't get the straw through. I wish that's what that was. What it was. Uh, when the, yeah, when the movie was ramping up to the big final set piece, I was just like, I'm tired.

[02:19:27] I'm not going to review this. I got to get out of here and I left. I never do that. Wow. Final thoughts, Ben. Are you done typing? You've been writing a little. Oh, okay. Should I read David? Do you want to read it?

[02:19:42] You want me to read it? Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Let me make it bigger so you can actually. Can I do one last merchandise spotlight? It's very quick. Sure. Ben, they have manufactured the equivalent of Hulk hands for Wreck-It Ralph.

[02:19:55] They're big blocky foam Ralph fists that you can hit and they make smash and sound. That's cool. Um, wow. That's your other merch. Okay. I'm going to get that. All right. So this is a tune out or we're getting close to two and a half hours.

[02:20:09] So we'll wrap it up here. Fucking Christ. Well, a lot of movie. Yeah. And we didn't even touch 40. We got time. We got time. We got 70,000 more episodes to record. Okay. Let's final thoughts. Jesus Christ. Let's end this. Okay.

[02:20:27] Anybody out there who wants to say anything of malice about any of these films or the beloved characters brackets that I love and brackets, I will give a death card. It is about good nice friends. And another thing did I mention that Ralph rules?

[02:20:45] He's big and smash his shit and losing a dump. Cool. He likes racing in a post apocalyptic. Eleon fire. Super cool. Good movie. Fuck you. Anyone out there says otherwise. Great. This is he's been writing this for the whole episode.

[02:21:05] I also want the listener at home to know that while David was reading that Ben was mouth all over every single word. And he was just string. He was pointing and waving his fists around while silently mouthing his own manifesto.

[02:21:19] I yelled anything that was in caps several words were in caps. Yeah. So that's Ralph breaks the internet. That's the wonderful record Ralph movies. I think they're great. Yeah, they're good. I'm happy the two is good. Yeah. I feel like they probably do do a third one now.

[02:21:33] I just don't know what it is. I mean, it's weird that Ralph's just become a vehicle for like rich more to be like hold up a mirror up to society. You know, hopefully I can get a little bit of a little bit of a little

[02:21:42] old illegal to trap stuff on, but yeah. You know they're SO N Doing I'm underased. So yeah, Robert is a good man and if you don't take Blockbuster. We're the best SEA cuties. Hopefully I assume war will do something to topia to don't know what he's fucking doing.

[02:22:03] Are they doing too tough? No, now they're like sequel crazy. Now they want to do all these antiques all we'll see. I didn't win in the New York Film Critic circle. I made a feature that went to into these spinaverse with It's very good. Wet. It's wet.

[02:22:16] Spider-ham's a little moist. Spider-ham is moist. Spider-ham, he's a pig. Spider-man. Voice by Dramalini. Okay, wow. Yeah, you're gonna like this movie a lot. Ben just... There's a Ben hole, the Ben shaped hole in the wall,

[02:22:31] and there's like a puff of air where Ben used to be sitting in the chair. Can we pitch a movie called Spider-Ben? Sure. Yeah, Spider-Ben. There you go. Into the Benderverse. Yeah. Right. Into the Purdueverse. I want to see like the six different versions. Into the Fennelverse.

[02:22:47] I want to see the six different versions of Ben that come out of a wormhole. Oh, God. Ben, I just want to say one last thing on the record that we're gonna end the show. David, sit down. Don't pee yet. Because I want you to agree with this.

[02:23:02] Ben is going to lose his fucking mind when he sees the character design of Kingpin in that movie. God, you're going to love it. You should take like a CBD bean or whatever it is people do these days before you see this movie, by the way.

[02:23:17] You should drop like eight tons of acid. Right. You should spray some meth mist into your eyeballs or whatever the kids are doing. Exactly. This movie is an ecstasy enema or whatever. If Kingpin is more files of new...

[02:23:30] Kingpin is as big in my mind as I want him to be. It's crazy. Eight small. That's all I'll say. Not a little. Not a little guy in this one. No, no, no. Larger than the average man. So huge. It's pretty big. Yeah. Yes.

[02:23:51] Thank you all for listening. Oh, wait, no, Ben, you have to end the episode. Oh, thank you all for listening. Thank you to Ange Fergudo for our social media. The episode isn't over yet. Thank you to Lane Montgomery for our theme song.

[02:24:06] Thank you to Joe Bowen and Pat Reynolds for our artwork. Go on Reddit. Blankies.Reddit.com for some real and really nerdy shit. And hey, feel free to weigh in on Reddit if you want to join Ben's dystopian gang.

[02:24:21] And also if you have an idea for what the stakes of the Lion King bet should be. Feel free to do that Twitter and Reddit. Reddit or Twitter. Go to Teepublic. Because if you've still listened to the end of the episode,

[02:24:37] it's beginning to look a lot like merch mess. That's right. Some new holiday season designs that are not holiday themed at all, but capitalizing on the fact that people buy things this time of year. Yeah. So we got at least three new designs.

[02:24:51] No Bits Pro Smits, a solo fennel shirt. Yes. A two friend shirt. That's a really fun design. It's going to look great. New stuff. All new stuff. So check it out. And that should be available now. Get a throw pillow, get a water bottle, all the stuff.

[02:25:09] I don't know. There's stuff. There's stuff. So check that out. We're going hard in 2019. 219 is going to be fucking hard for BC. Oh, it's going to be a big ass year for BC, baby. Yeah. I guess that's it, Raul. And as always, death cards for anyone. Anyone.

[02:25:29] Tries to talk shit about my beloved Ralph. We stay in a legend in this house. Think about other movies that don't have big stuff in it. Add a big thing to it now. Better downsizing. Well, that's a whole other movie I like. That's a whole other thing.

[02:25:48] I will say I do kind of. I do feel no Ben likes honey. I blew up a kid.