[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check on 60 minutes Good call right? That's quite a line Diablo Cody writes lines like that
[00:00:39] Let's just say this episode has to like 50% be Diablo Cody talk Diablo, I'm sorry it's Diablo not Diablo But we never talked about her before No, right? No. We haven't done her Jason Reitman many series One of our guests is a guest
[00:00:55] Half her movies have been directed by Jason Reitman who I will happily do on this podcast in the year 3000 Right. By the time we get to Ghostbusters Afterlife Apocalypse And then like you got a Demi, Karen Kusama We could do her Sure but I mean one could argue
[00:01:17] Jennifer's podcast One could argue she has not had the big film yet I mean like Eon Flex was her Blank Check that bounced Oh Karen Kusama right, sure, sure But yes it would be Eon Flex would be the argument
[00:01:35] But Diablo Cody is one of these few modern screenwriters who is like She's recognizable all by herself And author she's only directed one movie it's her least known movie Let's not talk about that one We'll talk about all of this Have you guys seen Paradise? We haven't
[00:01:50] You have? You can talk I've seen it I'm a Diablo Cody completist I've seen a Jagged Little Pill the Musical Recently debuted on Broadway Which is horrendous Is it really? Someone sat me down and described the plot of it to me I feel terrible saying that
[00:02:06] I've been avoiding saying that like publicly That you don't like the musical That I didn't love it I had a lot of issues with it But I am a Di- I love Diablo Cody I love Diablo Cody too Love her And I loved watching this movie
[00:02:19] And we would stop We would hear a line and just be like That is the most fucking Diablo Cody Shit I've ever heard of it I generally like Diablo Cody But also there's always like 20% in each movie Where I'm like okay
[00:02:32] You know like there's always things where I'm like too much Paprika but like I do enjoy it I agree with that But that's also what makes her like Also Jason Reitman directs a lot of her movies Who I am increasingly cannot stand But David you have to put
[00:02:45] Your personal opinions aside Okay And look at the larger political issue Which is that Jason Reitman has given Ghostbusters back to the fans Thank God he has They deserved it The fans were so well behaved They were sitting silently and patiently Waiting to get the Ghostbusters
[00:03:01] Can I have some Ghostbusters? That's the fucking worst Slop He gave it back That trailer Have you guys seen the trailer for Ghostbusters? It's so funny It's a plenty of shows in that trailer Yeah it's so weird I love the New York comedy Ghostbusters
[00:03:13] Does nobody remember the last one? Do they just want us to forget that happened Or whatever Mine You just like Stranger Things Ghostbusters Yeah Ghostbusters Children How dare you make Ghostbusters with Three, four comedians who have all worked together In different configurations And have innate chemistry
[00:03:32] Like the original Ghostbusters We're getting Carrie Coon and Tracy Letts And a bunch of children And a bunch of children And a bunch of children And a bunch of boys And a little girl And a girl who looks like Harold Ramis I'm gonna root for her
[00:03:45] Like her little round glasses Jason Reitman said You know I never thought I'd make a Ghostbusters movie This is what he said when they like announced the film I never thought I'd make a Ghostbusters movie And then one day I was suddenly just struck with this image
[00:03:55] Of a little girl Standing in the middle of a cornfield Wearing a proton pack And I went who is this girl I need to figure this out And that's how all my best stories come to me I find an image This image sneaks into my front
[00:04:09] A check from Sony Columbia Right I have an image of an offer Sent in an email Or five million dollars I had to investigate I haven't heard that story But that reminds me of the Darren Aronofsky Story about writing the title for Mother
[00:04:22] When he's like I just wrote I wrote the word mother And then I decided I need an exclamation mark And then I typed the exclamation mark And I knew I had a movie time It was something like that It was like sort of like It's cleaner Yes
[00:04:34] Lowercase mother Mother Mother That movie deserves an exclamation point We need to do that movie Which movie? Mother I finally tell my Clooney story on here Your Clooney story? I have a Clooney story about Mother About Mother? He's not even in that He's not
[00:04:50] But I can tell my Clooney story Was it from when you interviewed him at TIFF? Yep See this is why you guys have a Patreon These are all the stories Yeah, yeah, right Yes Ghostbusters Afterlife Before we introduce our guests In our podcast
[00:05:02] I thought you were going to say We have to do an episode on Ghostbusters We got it No, we absolutely know But in the trailer When I think it's the little girl Says like it has a gunner seat I think her name is Egon At I was like
[00:05:17] We need to ban children from films forever Like what? It has a gunner seat? Who says that? Get out of here Jesus Anyway It looks so funny I do love how funny it looks The jokes in the trailer It's the funniest The Martian
[00:05:30] I'm trying to think about it I don't want to think about it The tourists Clearly no one else in this recording studio Checks GhostbustersNews.com Because they are fucking cream in their jeans They are jizzing their tan jumpsuits Over their shells
[00:05:44] Is there going to be like a flashback Where someone drove the fucking car To Arizona or whatever? Like are we going to explain that? It gets put on a flatbed truck? Can I tell you what I'm really dreading? CGI young Harold Reimers
[00:05:55] I was going to say Irishman technology We have it, use it Ghostbusters To resurrect him It is a ghost Alright whatever Interest in the podcast and our guests please Hello everybody My name's Griffin Newman My name's David Simp This is Blank Check with Griffin and David
[00:06:12] I'm Griffin Newman I'm David Sims This is a podcast about filmographies And I'm Griffin Newman David Sims over here Directors who amassed the success earlier on in their careers To give a series of blank checks And make whatever crazy passion products they want Sometimes those checks clear
[00:06:28] And sometimes they bounce baby I'm Griffin Newman And I'm Florence Pugh I'm sorry, David Sims We are finishing our mini-series on Jonathan Demme Yeah, it's been what It's been four months, three and a half months The longest filmography we've ever I think Burton was longer
[00:06:45] I think Burton felt longer Sure, felt longer There's no question about that Burton was like flying by a black hole or whatever Where you're like, you know, you exit the Burton mini-series And your children are grown Timothy turned into Casey Affleck His voice got higher
[00:07:01] You're dead, how you doing? I miss you dad It's me, your son Casey Affleck You know I'm a grown up now I'm sorry, continue introducing the background Mesa-series has been called Stop Making Podcasts But we won't We won't We will continue
[00:07:17] Today we're talking about Ricky and the Flash His last dramatic film His last fiction whatever Yes, and we have two guests on the episode today And I was saying Before you showed up Right, we have Ricky and the Flash We have Ricky and the Flash both guests today
[00:07:32] The better the Flash I mean, the superhero We have Ricky, Martin and Grant Guston Here as guests on the show today Today, guesting on the show We have two wonderful people One returning guest, one first time guest But I was saying before you arrived
[00:07:50] Because some of us were only seven minutes late Right, I was I believe nine minutes late We were on time by the way Congratulations, sorry that I was a little late Really, I'm sorry I feel horrible about it I was talking about how unlikely a winner
[00:08:03] Demi seemed to be in our March Madness competition To pick the next miniseries And that a big thumb on the scales Was these two guests vouchin' for Ricky We literally had to make our fans vote So I could get on this fucking podcast
[00:08:16] But I think it's fucking, I mean look It worked and I think it was a big reason he won I think we saw like this major influx There were a couple people who were like Hey, you might think Demi is some no-name fool
[00:08:28] But you know, he made a movie we want to talk about All we listeners love Philadelphia That's the thing We had a Philadelphia bit for a while Bobby Finger, Lindsay Weber, Who Weekly You're on the show by demand By campaigning By self-demand Our Demi is Lovato
[00:08:45] So it's weird to hear you say Demi repeatedly And I think I keep thinking of Lovato She made some great films too She did She's made some great films What's the last Demi Lovato movie? What's fine? What's the last time she was in a movie? Camp Rock 2
[00:09:01] Yeah, Camp Rock Did she never do like a non-kids movie? Probably I don't remember, maybe a bit role No, she didn't really I don't think so She didn't really It's kind of weird that she never did like a hudgeon Well, what? Well, I'll tell you this
[00:09:16] Camp Rock, you guys are forgetting Camp Rock 3 Which apparently exists I assume she wasn't in 3 He was in, no No, well also it's not, it hasn't come out yet And they just don't get sure of it Oh, thank you What does it say? How dare you disrespect us
[00:09:29] It says plot kept in wraps Which is like so grammatically incorrect I knew there was only 2 Camp Rocks Plot kept on wheat So her last She was apparently in a film called Charming Nope Let me see that Oh no, I'm sorry, you misread that Oh that doesn't count
[00:09:48] It's Charming That doesn't count, it's animated It's a tune You're right that it's a tune So if we keep going back She was Smurfette and Smurfs the Lost Village That's a voice too Apparently she had an uncredited cameo In Zoolander 2, which I did see
[00:10:06] Oh, what, didn't everyone have a cameo in that movie? It so fucking got awful The cameos, but also all the other parts The jokes in that movie He gave Zoolander back to the fans It literally is like Camp Rock 2 She's basically never done movies Amazing
[00:10:21] This year she's in Eurovision The Will Ferrell comedy about Eurovision Very anxious about that We've been and we're going Rotterdam Is it still the same system where the winner has to host? So last year was in Israel We did not want to go to Israel
[00:10:39] It seems like a sort of a slap We did go to Portugal for the one two years ago Our first Eurovision But this is exciting because if Eurovision The movie is at all impactful Americans might give a shit about Eurovision For the first time in our history
[00:10:56] America now competes? Is this correct? No, okay, because I mean Alright, so I grew up in Britain Just get it out of the fucking way Britain competes, they're terrible Griffin does it I listen to the podcast They pump here Okay, go on
[00:11:11] It might take me a couple hours to process So you're saying you've entered Eurovision I used to love Eurovision I would watch it every year In Britain, of course, it's a story tradition To watch it mockingly And Terry Wogan, he's now dead
[00:11:25] But RIP would sort of do the voice over And he'd be like You know, like would be sarcastic And then you would always tell the half of Europe was like This is it, if we don't fucking win this That's it for Latvia
[00:11:37] What Britain knows they're not going to win So they think it's funny, but also like each Depending on how you watch in America I would say last year we watched it with a Sweden Like the Swedish stream was easiest to find
[00:11:47] And we watched with a Sweden host and they were really Into it, but you can find Different perspectives based on where you're watching It from, technically Can you tell me the last time Britain won Eurovision? The 80s It was 1997 or 8
[00:12:01] Right around it, it was right after Tony Blair's Election, it was when Britain was like The country has changed It's all happening with an exciting time Katrina in the waves One for, not for Wagan Sunshine But for a song called Love Shine a Light
[00:12:15] Amazing, I just remember all that And like even though Britain loves to make fun of Eurovision The country was thrilled, we were so happy You know Lindsay you were saying that You hope this movie leaves An impact on American culture
[00:12:31] I have a prediction because it's an Netflix original movie I think it's going to get 40 million views the first Three days A nomination for a best picture Versus the equivalent of 8 billion dollars In one hour It's always 40 million and 8 billion
[00:12:47] Did you see the Rob Lowe quote this morning? No, did you see the Rob Lowe quote this morning? Did you see the new Demi Lovato film? Rob Lowe I don't even know who ambushed him But it was, I read this on just Jared Okay, yeah And he said
[00:13:03] Again I don't know who asked him this But he said his holiday On the Wild movie, his elephant Movie that he made with Kristen Davis I watched it Had more views than the Irishman He's very proud of it And he said my movie, he said something like
[00:13:19] My dumb little movie that I made about elephants in Africa Had more viewers Than Irishmen And I was told not to tell anyone that Wow He's very proud of it Let me check here Rob I'm seeing 100 million views There's one person's job
[00:13:37] To email all the stars and be like Your movie got more than the Irishman It's a trade to not tell anyone The number one of all time Was that movie on Netflix originally? Oh yeah, big time It's called Holiday in the Wild
[00:13:51] I didn't know it was on Netflix Kristen Davis and Rob Lowe Meet in Africa They fall in love with the magic of elephants They both love them She's a vet, he's a guy Who lives with the elegans Amazing What country are they in? Zambia
[00:14:09] And it ends with them Saying something like An elephant always remembers I think that's the end of it That is all bits aside That is the perfect example Of a humble brag Look, I'm not supposed to share this But my stupid little movie
[00:14:27] Is the most watched thing in history It's really good But also if you said Holiday in the Wild Which means somebody watched 2 minutes of it Then the Irishman, I would say I believe it That's what was on the bottom of their Graphics from last week that was like
[00:14:43] Here's the most watched content on Netflix this year And then the asterisk is like 2 minutes I watched every minute Of Murder Mystery and the Irishman Did I? Which were the two highest grossing films Between them If every click was worth A billion dollars
[00:15:03] We're mad we don't get numbers from Netflix But I don't want them if they're like this This is bullshit But if you sell a ticket to a movie And then after 2 minutes They pull the sign for the And they leave That counts, I guess
[00:15:19] I guess but most theaters will Refund your ticket Now do they subtract it from the gross? Now that's the scam Well, that's a great question I'm going to call the box office Reporters and they're like Actually knock 8 bucks off
[00:15:35] I want to refund and I would like you to Subtract me from this I'm sorry, I got the real quote I just did a movie for Netflix It was the number one movie they have It was a stupid Christmas elephant movie Take that Martin Scorsese
[00:15:49] They were like don't tell anybody Wait, that's an amazing quote What a series He's dumb fucking elephants He's so right, it was a stupid Christmas elephant movie Your quote was so much more generous By calling it stupid little Because that at least sounds a little endearing
[00:16:05] Just call it my stupid Christmas elephant movie That's a great quote But I love that all Netflix ratings are claims So like this people, the people headline is Roblo claims his Netflix Christmas movie Beat the Irishman That's a great quote That's wonderful
[00:16:21] But also why not? I mean this episode has already gotten more Listens than the Irishman If you count two minutes, 30 seconds We don't have to release the data We can say whatever we want This episode in terms of listenership Has just passed eight stupid elephant movies
[00:16:37] My favorite question Which is this is not a humble brag But when we've been interviewed about The podcast by journalists And they're like so how many listens do you get We're like Nobody says to say We don't know and also it's unclear The reporting is not
[00:16:55] More than the Irishman Definitely more than the Irishman No question more than the Irishman Okay so Diablo Cody Lindsay you're a completist I love her I haven't seen that Bobby's favorite movie of the year it came out was Tully He loves Tully She's a mermaid She's a nanny
[00:17:17] Tully's alright I didn't know I loved love love love love love Was maybe my number two Was my number one Young adult Jennifer's body incredible Jennifer's body good A lot of movies that I would like to rewatch though I wonder how young adult
[00:17:35] I haven't seen it since I like Juno more As you know 30 something than I did As you know how old I was I adore Juno I think Juno almost gets a bad rap It does get a bad rap I mean they obviously made a ton of money
[00:17:49] But there was so much pushback at the time And I feel like the pushback has overwhelmed everything Young adult had in my mind Been my favorite thing She's done And then I rewatched it like a couple weeks ago Did not age particularly Well for me
[00:18:05] Not in that anything had Held up poorly culturally But it just felt a little bit Over cranked In my mind's eye That's how I feel about all her stuff I'm like I get it Diablo Well that's what's interesting I was rewatching it In anticipation of
[00:18:25] Trying to put together a best of the decade list And I was like is there any chance Young adult makes my best of the decade Is there any chance I put Charlie's Theron in my best actress Rewatched it and I was like
[00:18:35] I love so much about this film I think it's like 10 to 15% Overwritten I think there are just elements in which She just puts her thumb on the scale a little too hard But conceptually I love almost everything about that movie And then Ricky in the Flash
[00:18:49] Is like the inverse of that This is like 10 to 15% under-ripped I agree with that It's weirdly lacking in I can't being like I love the concept of this Totally Like if you pitched this movie to me Like just explain to me what it was about
[00:19:05] I'd be like that's incredible I love this idea we do not have any movies about Deadbeat Mom We do not have movies that talk about older women And then you see it and you're like Fuck they did it wrong So you're not a big fan of old Ricky
[00:19:19] I wanted to Come on this pod and be like stand for Ricky I'm the Ricky Stan like fight me But I couldn't in good Conscious and also Bobby watched me watch it Like I couldn't also come here and lie I was very disappointed
[00:19:33] Really have a miserable time yesterday With the execution of Ricky in the Flash That's Demi's fault Partially like not to Like a movie that maybe had a lot of promise In an amazing original script And was pitched in the room really well Meryl singing
[00:19:49] Meryl singing oh my god this Story and Diablo's a perfect writer to write A woman this way like I just I will not reveal sources Will not over share information Please do But we have heard that he was Not particularly happy with this movie Demi
[00:20:07] That is fair to say right that is all I'm going to say To the extent Putting my My hands up But we have heard some whisperings that he was Not particularly happy with this movie I think this movie is a pain in the ass to make That's all
[00:20:23] And I think it's at a weird level of Like In a certain way if you're Diablo Cody you have this script It makes a lot of sense to bring Demi in to do it Off of Rachel getting married If you go like you're getting the guy who did
[00:20:39] Stop making sense and Rachel getting married He worked with Meryl on the venturing Candidates that have an existing relationship On paper it makes perfect sense But this is also kind of the end Of the Meryl leading lady Studio comedy run That was starting with Mama Mia
[00:20:55] You mean like kind of like Seven eight years Starting with Devil Wars Prada Mama Mia, Jolene Julia Excuse me what about prime Prime up Jolene Julia gets better with age Yeah you've got so the thing Mama Mia, Jolene Julia Of course the great comedy doubt A knee slapper
[00:21:17] Let's not forget that it was once complicated It was very complicated And it made a hundred million dollars Hope at one point Sprang Right that's a little bit of a bounce And the giver She was so stern I'm kidding about the camera Well Florence Foster Jenkins though
[00:21:37] Oh boy That's the last one But that's also a little more prestigious Yes it is No way I like Florence Foster Jenkins Bobby you have to reveal Florence Foster Jenkins That was the premiere of that It wasn't the premiere it was a screening
[00:21:57] And I was in the elevator with her And I had a nice little mirror Sufra jet and that's when I first saw Yea That movie was one of the worst things ever Because Marisol was there Florence Foster Jenkins I will never top the moment when I complimented
[00:22:13] Florence Foster Jenkins to a Meryl Streep In an elevator Short Smile And then my opinion of Florence Foster went from like a C Plus to an A Minor Oh, what a great movie Grant is extremely good at it. I was about to say,
[00:22:31] Florence Poush Jankins is a CC- with an A plus U Grant. Like he is really working on it. Who directed that? Stephen Frears, the king of mediocrity. He made like five mascot pieces. But once in a while he's like,
[00:22:43] should I make like a kind of a piece of shit that gets an Oscar nomination that sort of clogs, you know, that beats out someone good? And Merrill's like, hello? Or Judy's like yes! But I like, but the, damn it. I like her singing and like that's
[00:22:57] a more interesting performance because we know she's a bad singer. You mean like Merrill is a bad singer? What I could leave it over. My number one issue here. My number one issue with Ricky in the Flash is, Ricky in the Flash,
[00:23:08] Lindsay and I used to go to this dive bar, you know, Monteros. Yes. And they didn't have singing there but they had a KJ who's sometimes sang and she'd worked there forever. She was just like a part of it.
[00:23:19] Shout out to Amethyst Valentino, the KJ at Montez Vangelo. She felt like decoration of this bar. She was a fixture of it. She is. She sang sometimes and she was pretty good. And it was like, I, she felt like a regular
[00:23:32] and I couldn't tell if I was supposed to think Ricky was a good singer, a so-so singer, a great singer. Like I could not tell what I was supposed to think about her performance and I kept wishing that it had been, like it had been all famous people
[00:23:45] and then Ricky is someone they pulled out of a bar. We're saying Amethyst Valentino should be Ricky. Like it should have Merrill kind of with her existence in this movie, makes it not believable and takes you out every time she does anything and especially singing.
[00:23:58] I never believed her. It's weird. She's a good singer. Ricky in the Flash is a pretty good movie and Merrill is the bad thing about it. Yeah. I think she's not particularly good. I think she's the worst thing about it. And Kevin Kline is the best.
[00:24:11] Kline is pretty great, but Rick Springfield is the best. No. There's another performance I think slaps in this movie. I love the Audra McDonald scene though. I think the Audra McDonald don't maybe my favorite performance. Audra McDonald. She is good. That's great. That's good Diablo code.
[00:24:29] That's the crime that she's not singing. Yes, I love that. It's very strange to have her sing. Rick our problem with Rick. Maybe Gumber's hair, the worst part. Sorry, that's the worst. Maybe Gumber's hair is the worst part. The problem with Rick though is that I'm sorry.
[00:24:42] I'm not gonna like this. But if you want to give me a grizzled rocker, he cannot have had plastic surgery. On his beautiful face. I'm sorry, Merrill's work is iconic. You can barely tell. Rick's work is Hollywood baby and it is... What are you saying?
[00:25:03] We don't have any money and it's like, I know those eyes cost a pretty penny. Here's my take. What happened to you? How many guitars did you have to sell to get those permanent eyeliner? I think he's supposed to have once been a little more of a somebody.
[00:25:13] So the flash. He's on the way down. She never got anywhere. She's always been right where she is. This band is pretty crazy. Because you have Bernie Wurr-Allen. Yeah, you do. You found him at part 11 Funkadel. Sometimes a member of Talking Heads and Stop Making Sense.
[00:25:27] You have Jonathan Demi's cousin? What? One of the members of the band is like Demi's uncle or cousin. It's really hard to watch this movie and be like, how this band is not famous, obviously. Were they ever famous? Was she famous? No, they weren't famous.
[00:25:43] It almost feels like... They are all session musicians who now later in life are like, let's get together and play in a bar every week. The environment itself, I believe. I believe that this bar exists where there is this house band,
[00:25:56] that's all they do, they have other jobs. There's three people sitting in the front who are like, yeah! I love when they sing Lady Gaga, that's the perfect type of fan service to the bar. It's a drunk place but not a sloppy place that's somehow inviting.
[00:26:10] There are all those like... It's the right amount of unpopulated. There's not too many folks. Occasionally like a young contingent. Like it's sort of a try to become a hipster and a local that never really makes it. I guess it was just more like for this woman
[00:26:22] to have left her family, there was a little bit of not as much clarity as to how that exactly happened and why that happened. Well, that's the weird... She's not vilified enough to just be a bad person
[00:26:35] where you're like, I can tell this woman just was over it. And this is where I keep on comparing. I'm going to keep comparing this film to Young Adult Just because I've watched it so recently and they feel like two sorts of extremes
[00:26:48] on her writing style on the opposite ends. But Young Adult maybe over explains some of the incidents, like every incident that happened to every character. Every moment. This is very vague about how bad she was. Right. I mean it's that she wasn't there.
[00:27:04] They kind of don't really get into whatever she did. You want her to be worse. There... Again, it's hard to write and it's easy to write a deadbeat dad. We can assume anything about a deadbeat dad. It's really hard to write a deadbeat mom.
[00:27:17] But while I want to be like, it's not fair to not trust that she's just bad. Like we would just trust a man was bad. Yeah. I do want more from why is she so... Like what did she do? Totally. And what happened?
[00:27:31] The context clues are so odd because they show the album at one point. That's the only album she ever did. It was under a different name. And it's solo and it looks like not rock. Totally. And it feels like what they're saying is
[00:27:44] that was recorded while she was still a mother at home and had the three children and the children were coming to the concerts. And then at some point she quote unquote went to LA and she couldn't come back. Right. Right, right.
[00:27:57] I do however, as much as I don't buy Rick Springfield's face, I buy his relationship with Merrill and they have an actual chemistry. Yes, really good. And like they seem like a sexy couple. That's great. There's so much in a mundane way. In like two people way.
[00:28:17] Not like in an ostentatious way. They're sexy. I love Rick Springfield. And so it's almost like I would believe it if you told me she just fell in love with this guy. Yes, yes. More than I would believe that she decided
[00:28:31] that she had to keep pursuing a music for decades upon decades of presumed failure. Right. Yeah, yeah. And it's like they're, I don't know. It's odd cause it's like the fact that this is now coming at the tail end of like Merrill being
[00:28:49] as a genre as we're saying, right? Like this run of like a pretty unprecedented run of like a largely dramatic actress. Who had never been a box office player. In her 60s suddenly having multiple hundred million dollar grossers where she is like the lead
[00:29:04] in a totally different genre. It's like she did the comedy version of the Liam Neeson action run. Right, right. You know? And then this comes at the tail end of that but it feels like they're taking a Diablo Cody script
[00:29:16] which is in a much sort of quieter key applying a filmmaker who is a lot more humanistic and behavioral and putting both of them into the Merrill comedy machine. Which is too big. But too big. She's too big. She's too big.
[00:29:30] But also the look of the movie is too big. Cody and Demi is a logical match. Like if you're on him you're like yeah. An interesting match. Right, of course. Like imagine like Melissa Lee. Like imagine like. Yeah, Jonathan Demi totally would have been a better Tully. Totally.
[00:29:42] Jonathan Demi. Everything but you know I think would have been a better. Yeah. You're right humanistic but you mentioned something when you were watching this the lighting in the movie is very. Oh thank you. Oh yeah. Okay, wanna talk about this. The lighting drove me crazy. It's crazy?
[00:29:56] Yes. Why is he whatever. It is like the how do you know lighting. Oh yeah. Where like every single shot of the movie is the shiniest thing you've ever seen and is equally bright whether they are indoors, outdoors, daytime or nighttime. Like it just constantly looks like fucking
[00:30:14] wizards of waiver. So in that way the humanistic thing is kind of lost because you're like am I what am I watching? Well just to speak on this cinematographer it's Declan Quinn who did Rachel getting married. So Taku Fujimoto I think sort of semi retired
[00:30:27] his last Demi movie I think is mentoring candidate. Okay. It's such a warm like inside movie that is believably inside of the stuff and it's like I felt like I was on like a particularly oppressive and extra large sound stage in every scene. Everything in this film.
[00:30:43] That restaurant I'm like where am I? He did Rachel getting married which is a great looking movie but obviously it's like all that handheld. Super grainy home video. Right. Then he did a master builder which we recently discussed on this podcast and it's not a good looking movie.
[00:30:55] No. What if the sun came through a window seems to be the sort of lighting concept there. That's a big idea. That's just big fucking idea. Yeah. And this yeah. You guys have seen master builder right? Everyone's seen the Wala-Shan master builder. What a difference it made.
[00:31:08] That thing did Roblo elephant Netflix movie. Huge. It's part of the criteria in collection. You ever wanted to see Wala-Shan just yell at everyone from a chair for two hours. Man. I once sat through a Wala-Shan play monologue not read by Wala-Shan and let me tell you
[00:31:24] that was enough Wala-Shan that I could ever need for my life. Did they come out dressed as Wala-Shan speaking like Wala-Shan? No but it was about Wala-Shan in Cuba. He wrote it. It was a full monologue and it was a wild ride. Wala-Shan in Cuba. He's a playwright.
[00:31:38] Don't forget it. Anyway. I agree with it. This movie is weirdly flat and I don't know what's up with the photography. And it's one of those things where you're like if you want to make it this sort of like flat and shiny it's almost a disservice
[00:31:55] to the movie to hire Demi who's never going to deliver the broadest version of it. It stuck between like two weird polls. I just want to talk about Tully for a second. Okay. I saw Tully in theaters and for most of the running time,
[00:32:10] humble brag I saw Tully in theaters, for most of the running time I was like is this movie great? And then the ending bummed me out so much. If we can do Tully spoiler talk for a second. The ending put me in like a puddle.
[00:32:25] I broke down and like I destroyed me emotionally. I liked the ending but I hated the discussion around the ending and I think anytime an ending could be construed as a twist. We cannot handle it as a culture and we lose our minds and it ruins the movie.
[00:32:39] And the ending is revealed that the film has the whole time been part of the unbreakable universe and that you know. That is an ending. Fuck I don't remember. And he's got the ending of like fucking split in theaters. No one in my theater had didn't knew
[00:32:54] what was meant. There was one person having a stroke and the same was David Sims. I remember like when people were like I hear it as a crazy twist ending. The thing I could say to people was it actually has an entirely different type of twist ending
[00:33:09] than anyone's ever done before. It has invented a new type of twist ending and now that's been done it can never be done again. Which is pretty insane. Yeah. Like he did the one time you can do that and completely blindside people. Insane, rude.
[00:33:22] But Tully my thing was I was so on board with the film being so focused into just no one makes a movie about this. About just a woman dealing with the day to day difficulties and the burnout of being a mother
[00:33:41] and having a husband who's not a monster but is distant. And just the intimacy and the kindness of their relationship her and Tully the Mackenzie Davis character I was like so into how modest and focused and human that movie was
[00:33:56] that the fact that there was a larger hook to it kind of disappointed me. And I sort of felt like I either want to see the movie that is no sort of misdirect from the beginning here is someone talking to their younger self
[00:34:11] or the movie that is just they have a nice friendship. You know? And I think it was just that so rarely do we get a film that is that sort of like I just want to tell a story about two people interacting with each other
[00:34:22] or about one person struggling with something. That when it needed to be something more than that even though I know thematically the whole movie came out of that idea I think she said in interviews that she wrote it based on the idea of what if you could
[00:34:36] spend time with your younger self that that then disappointed me and watching Ricky in the flash I was like I wish this had the specificity that Tully has for so much of its running time where Tully doesn't pump itself full of over dramatics until the last like 20 minutes
[00:34:53] but you're just so into watching these two people sit in a living room and talk to each other. And like Ricky in the flash there should be so much of that type of energy here with these people who have such like complicated histories. Yeah. And I think the,
[00:35:08] I know Tully came out after Ricky but when you look at them as sort of like a trio when you look at Juno I mean there's a way that you could sort of shove young adult into this as well but specifically Juno, Tully and Ricky in the flash
[00:35:22] the motherhood trilogy. They're all movies about motherhood and you have like Tully like the woman who once a baby. Young adult could be about not being a mother. And so that's what I was gonna say. So young adult is about someone who doesn't want
[00:35:32] to be a mother and then so it's like in that adding to that trilogy you would want something as I don't know perceptive and gentle as and thoughtful as Tully and especially Juno are and then it's like and that's why I think I responded so strongly
[00:35:49] to the Audra McDonald and Merrill scene because it's like this is sort of the movie that I want from specifically Diablo Cody. You mean you more want the like let's lay it on him a phone. This examination between this dynamic and Diablo Cody has been quite good
[00:36:04] and has made a career out of like putting these perspectives on screen in a way that like other people either don't want to or can't and then Ricky in the flash is just sort of this awesome texture. Ricky should not be likable also
[00:36:16] like Ricky Merrill is inherently likable I think here and Ricky should be more terrible the scene where Ricky's like my name is Ricky Randazo and to the security guard. Great scene in terms of making her be fucking annoying more of that
[00:36:31] like she just should have been more annoying like you know and bad. Certainly capable of doing. Right she's a good actress. Right it's like she's too much in her sort of movie star zone and that to me is the problem. I couldn't even figure out a haircut
[00:36:47] that like took her out of I was fascinated by her half braid because it was like the way to make her look slightly alt but not have to cut her hair or do anything drastic. Make her unrecognizable. The moment they took those braids out
[00:37:02] and she just looked like Merrill Streep I was like now I get the braids because this completely takes me out of this and I think that I don't know the posters for it are particularly interesting. Get ready for Ricky. Get ready for Ricky. Oh my God that was.
[00:37:17] Like she's fun look at this cookie mom came back but that's also not the movie at all. No no and I think you pinpoint something Bobby which is like Diablo Cody's real strength is finding a very specific human dynamic that has never been dramatized before.
[00:37:33] She is really good at finding like especially modern dynamics where it's like what is the conversation between a deadbeat mother and the stepmother who stepped up. Okay but all right this is and I'm borrowing this from first I want to point out there's absolutely insane she didn't get
[00:37:47] a gold globe nomination. That is how crazy this movie was like rejected the most slammed low-foss Jen right. Oh yeah she got Oscar now. Oh no. Low-foss Jen she gets the Oscar and Augusto St. County she she literally this is a musical
[00:38:02] and the comedy she didn't get a gold it's true she's saying yeah out in this category by and wait I want to make sure I'm having this is 15 15 okay now by all right so there are three nominations where you're like sure tip of the hat
[00:38:15] Amy Schumer and trainwreck obviously big movie that tip of the hat Melissa McCarthy and spy tip of the hat and the winner performance Jennifer Lawrence in joy. We still haven't let me live a little bit I'm just thinking about how funny joy is
[00:38:32] the worst fucking movie I've never seen it oh my god it's I'd watch Ricky every day of my life until I die if I did not have to see joy joy is the same you know fate with joy is bananas but can you give
[00:38:46] me the other two other two nominees you're eating in this category best actress comedy or musical for the I have the blue right you're asking me to name the other two well that would be Helena York and Drew Tarver of course
[00:38:59] all right so the other okay let me guess actually the other two twenty fifty other two twenty five good show good show Bobby's never watched it never watched it I know you love it like you've tried yeah maybe okay it's fine I'd love a lot of things
[00:39:11] you love a lot of reaction to that in a while yeah the other two for twenty fifteen yes where they more awards he plays or box office plays love when you play this game no neither I'm just gonna give them to you okay
[00:39:30] you'll never mind Lily Tomlin in grandma grandma which is not a bad movie and it's a pretty good performance but insane Maggie Smith in the lady and the van oh which doesn't exist never came out barrel couldn't beat either of them yeah that's pretty yeah that's a bad
[00:39:45] movie they have been in the van right but this it just shows how like mis-marketed this movie was when it was finished everyone watching it was like what is that like it's not big it's not small it's not anything also I think and
[00:39:59] not not that I'm you know a marketing wizard but I feel like this is a type of movie that I remember fully when this trailer came out you know however six months before the movie and it was like this looks nutty I can't
[00:40:11] wait yes by the time it came out I had forgotten about it and I was like oh right I have to see Ricky this is the sort of like it could benefit from the whatever the Jordan peel thing where he releases the trailers for the
[00:40:21] movies you know two months before they come out like like let's not try to this is a ridiculous not great movie so let's not even try to hype it up they gave up I know that's possible with with studio with most studio movies but like it would have
[00:40:33] benefited from a sort of surprise release well people would have seen it yes in higher numbers I mean it was this weird like I feel like the movie got announced like one fell swoop they were like there's a hot Diablo Cody spec script that Meryl
[00:40:46] Streep is attached to that was there in talks with Jonathan Demi and then TriStar acquired it and Jonathan Rao yeah yeah Tom Rothman sorry had just left Fox and got like swayed over to Sony and they were like we're putting you in charge of TriStar
[00:41:00] we're restarting TriStar and TriStar is now like director driven and so he makes the big bid for this and he's like this is the type of movie we're going to be making it's a 30 million dollar Jonathan Demi Diablo Cody Meryl Streep comedy and was like
[00:41:14] oh interesting yeah do you want to know the other three films that TriStar made before any Pascal got fired go ahead and Tom Rothman took over all of Sony love you Amy his three other films at TriStar were The Walk yeah the lady in
[00:41:31] the van right and Billy Lynn's long half-time walk two walks yeah but he picked like three best director winners right and got the worst work right is insane so yeah yeah but he saw that in 3D that's bad taste right there he arguably made the three worst
[00:41:51] films in each of those filmmakers yeah no arguably arguably I'm not sure that this has made a lot of sense I'm not sure I would rank all of them at the bottom but there are arguments that all three are unseeable you know things that people didn't see though
[00:42:04] like yes more so not even like a big just stinker just movies that lost in the confusion of their release and having nothing to sell lost a ton of money and you're like Ricky in the flash like only cost 30 and still yeah was
[00:42:19] unsuccessful I think made 20 but to compare it to The Walk not that this woman even exists but it's like the whole time I was watching The Walk I was like why am I not just watching Man on Wire again the whole time I
[00:42:28] was watching the Flash I was like I would love a documentary about this woman or not that she exists but you know what I mean but in the year 2019 we had a film releasing United States of America called Wild Rose I said that while you're watching yesterday
[00:42:41] that is so fucking good yeah and it's not the exact same movie but is exploring a lot of the same ideas is maybe the only other movie I've ever seen that is about like a woman abandoning her family in pursuit of a career trying to find that balance
[00:42:55] exactly correct and and the Jesse Buckley character both as it's written and as it's performed is a really good balance between something about her being very charismatic where you're kind of rooting for her and also something about her being very unlikable and annoying
[00:43:08] where you're like get out of your own fucking way you're also like ruining this for yourself because I as a viewer am biased against the idea of a mother leaving their child to do but society fully is yeah and that's why I think
[00:43:19] it's okay that she's not a piece of shit she's totally because it's like the very act of a woman leaving her kids we're just gonna be more judgmental yeah you know but also she's talented so right so the view is saying as you know oh this
[00:43:32] is talent and everyone's responding to it as a talent Ricky you know it's moral streep singing is moral should be good singer yes but and I love hearing Meryl Streep sing but is this good I guess it's okay like they're all kind of like playing less good
[00:43:45] than maybe they could on purpose cover band stuff is also like I just the fact that it's a cover band makes me feel like it's less interesting than had it all been original music you know where it's like I don't really understand your passion if
[00:43:57] it's just doing what about one for the very weird what about the song cold one like a cold one like a written by Jenny Lewis Jenny Lewis and her ex-boyfriend didn't even get a golden globe nomination I mean this movie should have had to made the
[00:44:11] long slammed up Jenny Lewis and release her I know you only get the Merrill version I want to go back to what we were talking about with Audra McDonald huh and this I'm lifting this from cam Collins to credit to cam Collins who talked about
[00:44:23] it in something he wrote about this movie years ago there's this dynamic in this movie and I cannot tell if it's something that Diablo Cody wrote into the script or it's more Demi's like casting of you know he likes to cast actors from more of a
[00:44:37] color-blind caster than some right right so you've got Audra McDonald you have a couple other this whole sort of bubbling thing that Ricky is like very conservative she has that 80s which is we're gonna bring that up I did the most interesting thing about
[00:44:52] I'm saying it is interesting pretty Trump so it's it's pretty much conservative right exactly but but it's that sort of culture war but also it's not out of line for you know those 80s rockers had that streak like that was very much the sort
[00:45:07] of I don't know name you know fucking Ted Nugent but like you know those types right sure and so it makes sense that she has that sort of dumb ass kind of like well I support our troops you know but it's only peppered in
[00:45:18] occasionally and every time that you're so like oh yes like interesting reveal of Ricky's back tattoo with Audra McDonald most important scene of the film we're all doing this scene is the most impactful yeah Ricky's pack that is revealed halfway in right she
[00:45:33] turns around and you can't stop think it ruined it kind of ruins it you can't stop thinking about it like what is that every time something like that happens it sort of just throws you off a second where you're like how am
[00:45:45] I supposed to feel about this character right does you know is there an internal logic to how she's being written versus how she's being played that scene also has you know Audra McDonald says like passing of Audra McDonald is so pointed but I
[00:45:57] can't figure out if it's pointed I can either and I the good cam which is what he was writing about he was like I don't know if this is just demicasting a great actress and not giving a shit about the fact that she's
[00:46:07] black or Diablo Cody being like that specifically this is supposed to be a black never says like fuck Obama the one time Audra McDonald's might Audra McDonald's lackness is referenced is in that monologue where she's like I had to drive maybe
[00:46:21] go to the white country and so when the moment she said that I was like was this written for a black woman or was this added after they cast right I read that's the line where I'm like I can't tell also her conservatism could
[00:46:36] have been what pulled her from the family or something so why her brother died in a war that was a huge deal for her like you're letting the candle blah blah blah like why not like actually connect the lines for us in a more
[00:46:49] clear way to it's just one of those movies where it's like I care about everything but what the movie cares about and what the movie cares about is maybe government getting better and it's like I care about why the movie cares about that for 40 minutes and
[00:47:01] then it's resolved the first half is just a result by them getting a pedicure maybe Gummer's hair being the exact same shit for the hot for half of the movie is so frustrating it is so much so much like I would see the wing
[00:47:13] like they crafted it's such a comic choice it's like using those like using like chopsticks or those teeny tiny tongs when you're cooking like to just like separate and combine individual hair to make it look as disgusting as possible she looks like
[00:47:27] the Cynthia doll from Rugrats like it is so comically like the shape of it it has such a specific silhouette and from shot to shot scene to scene it never varies you know she's slept on it yeah they fix her hair and they give
[00:47:38] her nails that are jokey so it's like okay so you've taken away this hair thank you so much I can now focus again and you've given her bad nails I can't stop looking at the nails so there's always this like visual gag that
[00:47:51] like does not work for this poor woman who's already not so good I want to we need to as we're talking about the hair we need to talk about made me come yeah we do yeah I have two questions
[00:48:02] one is she a who does she she's she who yes right even Lindsey was like is that made me her grace well that's that is the key reason she will always be I was very very sure right I was very confident like it's made me and then
[00:48:15] in the back of my head was like is a great I think it might be grace I mean they look exactly alike it's they do look very similar which they they're actually both really beautiful and yes yes and there's a third one
[00:48:29] who doesn't act but is a model but is maybe starting to act I think Louisa Louisa okay she's not she's a model and then they ask isn't there a boy who's in a band Henry Henry remember when she was going to his band shows in New York
[00:48:42] she was always showing up but getting ready for a kick I don't think she I think that she can be a good actress I really enjoy her and things like the good wife where she's playing like the sort of you know bitch on wheels type
[00:48:53] you know like that's more like is she terrible at playing a train wreck because I've seen her do it a few times and I don't ever love it not good in this I don't think she's great in this I think she's not terrible but I think she's
[00:49:04] bad at playing a train wreck also I think I think she's bad at being in a movie with her mom yeah I don't know which is a weird dynamic it must really mess with you yeah I'm sure when your mom's marrow it will not do you any
[00:49:14] favors as I think they thought they were getting something special with having them be mother and daughter in this movie and they got the opposite which was me being the most special part is I mean I did I wasn't good the
[00:49:23] final the final bit which is so unearned and so lazy when she's like don't keep going girl like that's like it was such a dumb walk on walk on walk on it sort of works in a way I like that moment that
[00:49:36] moment is fine yeah and it's like I kind of wish there were more of this instead of her being like oh I feel like I'm back in the 80s that's the thing about this movie there's like three to four sort of elements where
[00:49:46] you're like maybe we should lose one and emphasize the others right yeah it's like maybe a little just the balances off I just wanted to bring this up because I assume none of you watch true detective season three I love through detective season three wasn't it
[00:49:57] good so good it was amazing except for Mamie Gummer my favorite season of the whole show I liked it more than one wow well I loved it it was very I actually agree with you hit the nail in the head over here Mamie Gummer
[00:50:08] playing this sort of strung out uh you know sort of trailer better than that I didn't like her I was like I'm feeling near this is fake she's not she's better in there is her which Gummer's in the newsroom that's great love her she's better in true
[00:50:24] detective than she is in this I would say she annoyed me less I had more to do scoot there you know scoot you just roll that guy in some twigs and I'm like oh my god who is this disaster of a person you know he's the best
[00:50:34] and Mamie I felt a little more like oh you're trying this is like a fun role for you to sync your teeth into you think she needs to be high status yes I'm saying she's much better at the sort of like yeah wife type you
[00:50:45] know I was just Emily Owens MD of course yeah RAP we all my god Emily Owens MD but like look great grace and Mamie have made good careers for themselves they've done a lot of work that is well respected well regarded I actually
[00:50:57] like Grace too Grace no I had no problem with either Gummer situation they've done well I was gonna say oh my god it is so extreme because they're obviously like big second third generation movie stars but it's so different when it's Meryl Streep and
[00:51:09] she's used as shorthand for acting yes she's the best actor right the Meryl Streep of blanks she's the person who has broken all the records right there's the funny the onion you know Meryl Streep there is no they can't find a jury of peers because she has
[00:51:24] yeah I mean it's crazy that they are act I mean it's crazy that they're at yeah like that your mom was Meryl Streep and you say I'm gonna do that too you must be out of your mind and I feel like I'm gonna be an investment
[00:51:35] banker I'll be anything but acting yeah I feel like both of them have said that in interviews I've been like I thought it was the last thing I'd ever want to do I had no interest and I was very surprised when I fell into
[00:51:44] it in college right that they tried to avoid it for as long as they could for that reason and so you're like there's something kind of compelling even though I don't believe this film reflects their actual dynamic in any way by all account she was a hands-on mother
[00:52:00] uh and did not vote for Bush two times right you sure there is something compelling where you're like oh it's like a film about a mother who like prioritizes her career over her children starring her real life daughter and it's the most famous woman
[00:52:13] in her field like the peak of her artistic field it seems like there's something there especially because Mamie is like a real actor in her own right it's not like they're just casting like her non-professional daughter to play their relationship you know um but but something about
[00:52:33] it is handed this like again in the universe where this is like an oscar film which yeah not to be you know big meaty role she's all fucked up she yells her hair is weird as we heard about it yeah so like you know could be an
[00:52:46] oscar play I think it's weird a weird thing about that role though is that she doesn't even get the confrontation scene no like the big the big sort of conclusion to her story that she weirdly doesn't get that what a weird scene it's a very strange when she
[00:53:01] does like that she's like yeah we're seeing walking through the window like I know but I like that Ricky's it doesn't do a very good job with that because it's like what's she gonna do a good job being like and you know another thing yeah you're a
[00:53:14] real piece of shit he's like all right go away yeah but that also happens like end of act one right yeah and so act one is she's summoned home her daughter isn't a you know suicidal tailspin because her husband left her and Kevin Klein who's this buttoned
[00:53:29] up you know business man yeah in a nice house with a bath which I'll take as much as you have of course put that on a roll I'll eat every day give me all of you guys that house is per I'm sure that house is
[00:53:42] perfect house it's supposed to be in Indianapolis or whatever yeah even though shot in like a gated housing community where they have to check him a security and he's just like well I just don't know what to do and Ricky's like you know I'll just
[00:53:53] fucking take her for a pedicure and yell at her ex-husband and right convince her skip therapy and by the end of it she's like maybe gonna start to be all right which feels and Audra McDonald's like can you get the fuck out yeah and she's like
[00:54:08] and this movie is a hundred minutes long but if you took out the music scenes it's like 75 minutes long there's a lot of songs says go home and then she's just home for 25 right but I don't really like the first 40 minutes that much
[00:54:23] I kind of like it once she goes home I love when she's comes just her being like you know what Rick spring feels all right yeah my life's okay I know I'm not we did not need a full song in the second act we did
[00:54:35] what song was the full song remember you're right there's one song which is like the song about rock and roll we didn't need that and that's when she does her like she starts to overshare in the intro to the song we don't need
[00:54:46] that song ricks like you know it's like they haven't done a full song and then they finally do this full song and it's just like we don't need the full song right but it is that weird thing where like act one is like operation Mamie Gummer right act
[00:54:56] two is back back at the also there's one scene each with Sebastian Stan yeah and the other the other guy Nick West straight oh yeah as her gay son and so like with Sebastian Stan it's like he's getting married and she doesn't know and so she's bummed about
[00:55:12] that and the gay son is like and you don't like that I'm gay and she's like I don't mind I just says two homophobic things right and you're like what the fuck is this dynamic in the movies like the gay son right again introduces
[00:55:24] his new boyfriend and the boyfriend is like I love your mother she's a firecracker right I stan Ricky I think the other great part is the boyfriend's like her number one fan which like I get it but also it does it also I'm like can we have 10 more
[00:55:36] minutes or none of this like I'm not sure especially then because act three is just about Sebastian Stan's wedding like the thing that's kind of striking when the movie is set up on like a suicide attempt by her daughter calls a woman back home to the children she
[00:55:50] abandoned act one is all about her relationship with that child and Sebastian Stan and the other son are just kind of like only there for the dinner scene and they don't even want to engage with her then act two is her back home she does
[00:56:02] not speak to Grace Gummer between fuck I did it again she's not speak to Mamie Gummer god at all didn't even notice yeah me either at all between when they walk on yeah and she gets in the cab and walk on at
[00:56:15] which point like 45 minutes of a lapse well we've also her character gets dropped but then when she's gonna walk down the aisle she has some of Mamie is I mean I wish they maybe could have ended with a fight between her and Mamie to show that tension
[00:56:28] and then she doesn't talk to her because of that tension but it ends with me sort of forgiving her stuff right weird as maybe was like kind of okay with her by the end of that she feels like she's sort of like
[00:56:37] solved herself hugs her is like thank you for coming I really appreciate it yeah so why would you just go home without any type of fight yeah weird the um I mean you said is this movie edited weird like what's the deal with this movie yeah is there
[00:56:51] and and it makes me think like a drop not to I mean not to give me to give Diablo Cody would love to hear an interview with Diablo Cody about this movie she has she has this you know this catalog of movies that if not
[00:57:03] explore depression and mental illness pretty in-depth like let's say Tully again but like it stands to reason that this movie was more about Mamie being suicidal and the effects of like depression on this family and like her specifically coming like and the conversation between Audra McDonald
[00:57:23] has this very knowing assessment of how treatment for depression works and that they want to get that across it's clearly trying to make a statement and let its audience under like let them know that it understands mental illness and yet it kind of just stops being about that
[00:57:43] it's lacking in specificity think that something was cut out or things were changed like I would like to see what this movie was originally was because I have a feeling it was something else or the very least just like it sanded off too much you know
[00:57:58] like it the whole thing feels just a little too smooth and too shiny she has said that she based on her mother in life Rick Springfield's face is this Diablo Cody is this the sort of thing that like she never had in her wildest
[00:58:10] dreams Meryl Streep wasn't in this movie right the moment Meryl got attached things had to change right so it's like it like that's gonna be grateful because she has not been writing sorry I'm fucking at my microphone there we go is that you're really freestyle over there
[00:58:23] I'm free son of my microphone on my life I see it is a movie where devil Korea said as you said David that it is based on her mother-in-law that her mother-in-law is part of a bar band that she would watch her play and go like
[00:58:38] I've never seen a movie about this person this person deserves to be a movie but it stands to reason that the other thing she said her mother in law did not abandon her child because her husband has a good relationship the other thing she said is and as
[00:58:48] we sort of already talked about is that she was inspired by that as she's my mother herself and she works in the movie industry and like the standard double standard she perceived of like men with kids yeah in the movie industry or you know they just
[00:59:02] jet off to wherever they're making their movie and they don't how many movies are made about a man trying to side between his love of his work and his love and like you know and of course if Diablo goes off to
[00:59:12] make a movie and she can't see kids as much like everyone would be like she's a monster yeah kid at home like you know whatever right like she was she wanted to write about that but to your point Lindsay like in wild rose
[00:59:25] you know this woman's got the goods when she comes on stage it is so clear to you she has well that's the thing with wild rose you're like holy shit pure town like this woman just needs to get in front of the right person she doesn't start singing
[00:59:37] until like 25 minutes into that movie and we've seen that she's in jail so we get like she is a genuinely huge fuck up yeah who you know blew it you watch the first 20 minutes of the movie and you're like this seems like the behavior of a delusional
[00:59:50] person that's ever gonna make it like they're not that good we don't know we don't yeah the reveal of being really good yeah works so well in that movie and there's something I like conceptually to the idea of she's leading a bar band that mostly
[01:00:06] does cover she's not even a songwriter but you get the sense of what it gives her like how much she loves doing it yeah where it's so clear that she cannot avoid this is my microphone on the table it is one of those like I fully believe the
[01:00:22] character you're fully not knowing how to use the microphone I believe the character I don't usually use the arms so much louder I know wow okay has the last 45 minutes of this episode been but like 10 okay bobby go what was I saying yeah oh no
[01:00:39] but I I believe her I believe that that woman exists I don't know how to be Merrill should be playing totally and I feel like we've all seen people like that like people where you're like wow you seem to be so happy just playing in
[01:00:50] this club for five people in the back of this bar you just get so much joy just like a great again like a marriage which is a perfect subject to write about like someone who is not doesn't have like wild aspirations who is
[01:01:04] happy being like happy happy being content with what they like their little quiet little joys who actually just likes doing the work and has no sort of delusions about fame or success and understand the dignity in that totally but that this movie isn't about that it's
[01:01:20] also weird to make a movie about a creative person who is also conservative you so rarely come across people like that when you do it's always kind of striking and you want to ask them a thousand questions right and like the fact that it in that Audra McDonald
[01:01:34] scene where the movie sort of like starts to like get this real sort of jagged energy you reveal the back tattoo Audra McDonald makes the joke about like I grew up with seven sisters so it's nothing I haven't seen before and that's when she said I just
[01:01:46] had one brother and he died in NAMM yes and you're like what and it's a throwaway but it's kind of like oh that starting to unlock this character like that's starting to pull and that's why a creative person could be conservative totally their family
[01:01:58] died in service right and you're like that was just such a formative thing for her that she has like yeah forever she's supporting our throat you know she's got everything's reverse engineered why is there no aside from the I guess the homophobic comics comments to the sun
[01:02:12] there's no other runoff of her bad politics with the family does Kevin Klein agree with her did he once and now doesn't because they have a gay son and then he kind of changed his mind seems like a guy whose vibe is like
[01:02:23] well I don't know what's right right right right they're seen in the kitchen like a dull whore nice their scene in the kitchen is I thought that was nice that was sweet and weird and and the checking the testing her on the serial numbers
[01:02:36] yeah that's very is like but then like then that she tries to throw it at Audra with like you know he still love with me and she's like oh I love that love that pretty great it's devastating yeah that's like peak devil great right yeah and the grandma
[01:02:51] says oh yeah he'll I don't like they've been together for however much and she's like they've been together for so many years and she's like oh no but so right so getting to the wedding so you know you have this inter right you know
[01:03:03] intermission kind of thing where it's more just her and rick springfield and they kind of like she's like embraces this guy in this life she has the weirdly bad been plat scene oh there's no point for him to be there what's going on with him in this movie
[01:03:18] what why was he there what was why is there's no reason for this character because the movie is produced by mark plat oh thank you the answer the whole time I'm like what is this yeah I mean I understand that Ben Platt
[01:03:30] is probably like sure all the answers and I'll act opposite maryl street and just tell her how much I love her yeah like which is all he does and it's not like he is not an actor who has proven himself in other places
[01:03:40] but he win was this like the year of dear Evan Hansen or the year before after year before no it's we before it's the year before it's not his fault it's just like the role is clarify it's the it's the year of dear Evan Hansen
[01:03:52] off-broadway but you know it will eventually make it he wins a tony in 16 or 17 I think he won the tony in 17 you know but for this yeah yeah season I saw it off-broadway is that supposed to be like he is like the stand it like she does have
[01:04:09] relationships with young people that could that are the age of her kids and like he's obviously gay and she has a gay son and while she's like kind of homophobic or she still has like but she's not like virulently homophobic
[01:04:21] just like if you you know if you dig a little deep right here you realize like oh she's pretty old but that's supposed to make her like it's supposed to make her likable right or something in a way that if you didn't like her you'd be like well
[01:04:32] she's a real community in this bar and and everyone loves her and I think she's less like openly homophobic than like openly conservative which is the vibe I got from the son where it's like the son never felt comfortable coming out to her right because just he assumed
[01:04:46] she wouldn't based on the back tattoo based on like her relationship with the brother so it's like yeah yeah it's my least favorite scene in the entire movie is when she meets her son's boyfriend oh yeah and she makes the bruce lee joke oh god she's
[01:05:00] tries to be supportive and makes a couple weirdly kind of like uncomfortable comments about a sexuality and all of them are treated with the boyfriend laughing and being like oh come on she's trying oh she's cute I love Ricky that's right and you're right it should not be
[01:05:17] just as the bride who doesn't like her throughout the dinner scene yeah because everything she's been told comes around at the end who is barely an actor she's mostly a model but has the greatest face oh her face just to stay and she's hilarious vinegar and she's got
[01:05:32] good and uncut she's a really good actor she is she does do enough I mean that scene in uncut gems is on the phone oh my god but this she is so like one-dimensional it's it's right it's a fence she's she's fucking Dennis Quaid's
[01:05:46] it's not it's not calibrated yeah it's it's off I wanted her to just she shouldn't have never come around to her or she should be put off by her but not in this comical like oh p you right kind of way and and
[01:06:00] the way the movie sort of like at the end goes like oh all her naivete is cute look at her making this like yeah he looks like Bruce Lee to a Chinese guy who she's just met um Diablo Cody is usually good at
[01:06:12] doing a scene like that where there were four or five contradictory feelings at once and you can go like what's sweet about this scene is that she's trying really hard but also no one changes overnight so all the things she's doing to try to connect
[01:06:24] her son are still kind of cringy falling flat yeah right that's sweet in the same way that like Jennifer Garner's character in Juno is so incredibly good at being like this is an innately unlikeable person who we always demonize in movies like this
[01:06:38] and i'm trying to show that she's just actually pathologically uncool yeah that she does not know how to connect to other people I mean it that is incredible an incredible performance her and Bateman are both so good Bateman just understands which is
[01:06:51] the reason Juno works and like when people shit on Juno they shit on honest to blog and all the shit it's obvious right and like the first five minutes of Juno obviously suck the rain wilson scene sucks but the thing that everyone loses sight of is like
[01:07:04] only the kids talk like that and all the adults in the movie are like real human being there's like like name a name a more beautiful moment than Jennifer Garner saying I have a son I mean yeah on that when she speaks to the
[01:07:17] belly yes that scene is incredible and the Bateman like all the k-semen scenes at the end is incredible I mean that's a great movie it's also just kind of a magic movie you know like she can do that as well in the entire career and she's really
[01:07:30] good like it's an amazing she should win the Oscar but those two characters are like Jason Bateman is a guy who's really charming but kind of a neatly creepy and and and we the audience clock it a little faster than Juno can which is appropriate like you know
[01:07:47] you know because he's the guy where I'm like he's like a 17 year old is still going to think I'm totally yeah and Jennifer Garner's the exact inverse of that where she is like on a surface level really unappealing and if you dig down you're like this is actually
[01:08:00] a really respectable human being and you're right it's she's the character that movies have taught us to make fun of she's a one-dimensional pain and all the scenes where they deepen that character that film is smart enough to characterize her as still being embarrassing like even when she
[01:08:16] is showing her true colors and making herself vulnerable there's something innately embarrassing about that character in the same way that even when Jason Bateman is creepy there's still something charming about him right because that movie is interested in the gray area of those
[01:08:27] characters and I think every other diablo cody movie for better or worse in terms of the film at large gets that kind of balance and the fact that ricky is so just like maryl having a fun time like it feels like one of those
[01:08:40] performances where all you're supposed to be thinking the whole time is wow I've never seen maryl like this before she's cutting loose she's joking about the pubes she's wearing leggings her boots are so high like rock and roll maryl what was the
[01:08:50] scene where she has the boots on the whole movie in the kitchen she has the whole scene she has these boots on in the kitchen she's sitting on the kitchen aisle and her boots are on i'm like we're so rude she's like
[01:08:59] she needs them to be in character but no it's like because you'll forget it's you know ricky and I wonder if there's nothing else there there's nothing else script completely unchanged if that scene would have played not better but at least maybe better but differently had it just
[01:09:14] been this no-name woman yeah you know like maryl is so distracting on every level in this movie you you can't get i mean you want to know like what was ricky like what was linda like what's the what's the there's no ever comparison between are there photos of
[01:09:27] two types what about her old clothes are they in the house somewhere like what's that Tupperware like get more into that like there's no actual like before and after of her that maybe could be compelling like was she always like this because or was he
[01:09:41] more of a rocker when they met like was he cool an alternative like there's just there's like no it's not realistic to to have this especially when that's like one of her big subjects the ablacote is the like hip people becoming old and late yeah
[01:09:57] you know and who tries to fight it and who gives into it and who still wants to pretend that they are right you know and who's still longing for it who's moved on right but here's the thing i want to say about the wedding
[01:10:07] that i do like the final act of the film whatever them going into the wedding i like that despite the scenes we've talked about they show up at the wedding they're not part of the wedding they sit in chairs yeah everyone says hi to them or whatever
[01:10:20] but that's it that like she has not there's not something where it's like you know what ricky you're as important of this family as everyone else should be up here with us exactly she gets to go as a guest yeah she's
[01:10:32] gets to be a guest she gets to have a conversation one conversation with her kids they tell her because she rsvp'd so late she has to sit at the table with the members of the band exactly right and then she does the only fucking thing she's remotely
[01:10:45] good at apart from naming serial numbers for fruit yeah which is she does some pretty decent covers for them and everyone dances yeah her bruise is good her bruise is good i'm a huge fan of that song her underrated springsteen song like not a top tier like everyone
[01:11:00] knows it but it also makes you think that maybe maryl needed to make a stronger vocal choice with the singing where you're like she's never going to be the best singer but maybe if she had that distinctive of a style yeah not that she was imitating bruce every
[01:11:13] time but then she had like a specific kind of growl but it's still unclear whether she's good like she's all right but it's like you want there to be a stronger reaction yeah it's very mixed and it's hard to know whether what she's doing is inappropriate
[01:11:30] because it is but then also you're like clearly audrey mcdonald's in on this because if she wasn't she'd be like okay and also someone flew out the entire band and ben plaid who is in the front row so the appearance of ben plaid is absolutely the worst thing
[01:11:44] about it science fiction that's one the movie goes to when i can handle okay so here's the thing we were like how much is it cost to fly from well into your next two all right now i have to read to you from the trivia page
[01:11:55] for ricky in the flash please do because it's it's a somewhat annoying one of those i'm db trivia entries where you're like but you do have a bookmark it's in your tabs exactly permanently he's got that gibson that that very nice guitar which is he wrote the guitar
[01:12:11] he wrote jesse's girl the real one it's in 1959 um no sorry that the yellow guitar is the nineteen fifty banana banana but the 68 gibson sg yeah this thing is like that would cost five to ten thousand dollars if you sold it sure okay now i
[01:12:29] believe he pawned it right so he's getting like 10 percent right so that's enough for tickets to from like la to indianapolis sure sure you know whatever this is like with a louis guitar price and current playing fairs all five band members could have flown first
[01:12:43] class ten time i'm like all right all right i am db trivia you know i'm going to say that i didn't find this interest right but it pauling the guitar sure he can afford i don't even think that they needed that and i just think that that's
[01:12:55] the kind of details where they gave time to this thing where he i like never said that you know or she's like where's the guitar and he's like don't worry about he ever i even again even though i had seen this movie before i was
[01:13:06] they have driven i just don't get this like a long drive lindsay come on all over this country they drive all have her be have the locations be closer she didn't have to be so far i just think that these like that little bit is not
[01:13:19] worth like making them be geographically closer and there's no like the guitar being sold didn't make the relation between ricky and rick spring ricky and rick rick any more co-he's a 30 hour drive look at that come on people do that all the time yeah two
[01:13:35] hotels is cheaper than yeah you know to round trip i guess i think you can fly la to indianapolis for like a hundred right so that's that part just didn't ring it didn't matter to me it also feels like you'd maybe rather that
[01:13:47] audra mcdonnell bought them the tickets yeah and almost you yeah but she would never she wouldn't do it i would not ever buy the ricky would do that no matter how improved she is as a she would never accept her shouldn't be the
[01:13:59] money what stopping her should be the the rest of the movie i don't want to know like not my children hate me silly money thing that yeah and also the sort of like i'll fuck it up like i always do you know i'm
[01:14:10] no i'm no good they don't like she should have fucked up the last wedding to give us a precedence for fucking up the next one like she should have i wish that there was some sort of escalation that happened at the first wedding that
[01:14:20] obviously was a mess for many reasons that ricky was part of that kind of like oh we shouldn't have under the next one frontier air hundred and sixty six dollars rt round trip round trip but she from torsanna to indianapolis
[01:14:34] but you have to lay over in vegas but that's okay slots in the air for loves being a high roller two things about the wedding that i liked are the audra mcdonald again audra mcdonald great moment she doesn't even speak in that scene which
[01:14:48] is sort of awful but whatever she gets like they they they are sure to cut to her to make you understand that she is giving her permission for this to happen right she must have like lindsay was saying she must have been
[01:14:59] consulted in some way because she sits down sort of anticipating what is about to happen and i like that and i'm gonna go ahead and just because this is the uh the demiseason i'm gonna go ahead and compliment the the audience response to her
[01:15:14] playing i think is like deliciously uncomfortable and that's so that's such a believable wedding moment where it was about to say it's such a wedding thing because like everyone's like because you've got half of the people enjoy this at all or 20 percent of the
[01:15:27] people 30 percent of the people feeling this one way and the rest of the the guests are like i don't i'm not in on this joke i don't know what's happening here because all they know is that she's this dead meat mom
[01:15:37] that no one likes and that she's like so it's like there's something sort of fun about the fact that her final performance isn't a hundred percent triumphant yeah it's strange yeah it's weird and it's uncomfortable but it's played as triumphant yeah sort of
[01:15:52] okay like in a way yeah like it ends like on a happy ricky ricky feels comfortable ricky's like i did a good thing because you're like you did a good thing and but you she gets to sing a cold one her uh single when
[01:16:03] it's over i still leave it feeling which is i think the the intent like you leave thinking like well she's not going to see that family for 10 years like she's on going back for 10 years right like she might call a little more often than she did before she's
[01:16:16] like not going to get it right this is not right the beginning of but it's a hundred different ricky yeah of course and i appreciate the fact that it doesn't try to suggest that it is yeah mom is bad exactly yeah it's just this is what she can
[01:16:30] contribute and maybe it'll just be yeah no one is a little ricky until she is like you know i mean audra is the bigger person she sends the letter the letter is really sweet yeah like the letter is really like the letter doesn't deserve the
[01:16:43] letter is a great letter yeah he does it not deserve that letter audra mcdonnell definitely that is the letter she's like David's poking at my phone what's up look at what you did you did a sort of a i checked my text i'll leave it up
[01:16:55] here doesn't matter it's a nice yellow David's asking me to read text i'm sorry i was just being so personal like can you flip it over give me should have gotten the yellow oh yours is nice i like the yellow more you have like the cc green
[01:17:07] cc blue i've got a like a oh yeah you've got the pro we see that you have the pro three cameras on that one you try the third camera for i'm happy with two second camera for unlike kevin cline over here i'm happy
[01:17:18] with just two cameras on my phone kevin cline where's a couple rickies over here i wish i could do kevin cline so i could then be like well it's a better picture mode i could like and kevin cline kevin cline's very good isn't it he's like
[01:17:32] sort of an afterthought he's barely barely not as anything but he's good right and one thing that i've been dumping on maryl's performance for so long but i'm not really dumping on a performance i'm more dumping on the idea of her being even in this the
[01:17:43] fact that she was cast but i believe that the to go back to that fridge scene yes i believe that maryl and kevin cline were together i believe that hundred percent i mean they were in suffice choice which i love any time two actors are able to
[01:17:59] reunite and play completely different right totally different vibes but still have the spark and there's real there's real spark between both maryl and rick and maryl and kevin and i'm like yes that's something well ricky is like this manic pixie dream girl almost like
[01:18:15] she's kind of like this like magic person in a weird way you know and that's what i think is like but the the diablo kodi version of that which is like yikes yeah right but that's like what makes it kind of fun where it's
[01:18:25] like what was linda like i need to know like what was linda like you can see how even if this guy was always more straight laced and stuck up when he was in his 20s and 30s he found it a lot
[01:18:37] more charming yes and you can also see how like rick springfield on the wrong end of 60 would now go this is what i want yes like i've gone too crazy but he loves 31 all of his money unlike i work so it's so you know what's another beautiful moment
[01:18:53] when he's really stoned and his head is in her lap yeah and she says are you really this tired or were you just looking for an excuse to touch me yes and then he doesn't like freak out right like looks up and he like touches her
[01:19:05] face yeah and puts his hands on her a couple times in a as as unsexual away as possible gets close to her and then steps away and just like stands looking at the fridge he like touches his head he like right good kevin
[01:19:19] kline out but he does this admission of like that's what i wanted to do i am not going to go further than this i am not cheating on my wife good guy this isn't a moment of temptation maryl will of course misinterpret this
[01:19:29] as he's still in love with me but the moment is he's with someone who he once loved enough to marry and have three children with and he's remembering and she's and she and he remembered oh she's so fun we got
[01:19:41] stoned and this was a part of my life when i was young that i really sometimes miss you know that he has his own line that he stops himself and not even like we shouldn't be doing yeah yeah yeah it's so good and
[01:19:53] that next scene the i mean we've we've talked at length about aughta mcdonald seen with her in the in the guest room which by the way lindsay mentioned this while we were watching and it was like that house would have had a proper
[01:20:01] guest room it wouldn't have been like a study yeah i would agree it's a pretty big they would have had a guest room here's all right is may me in the guest room i guess maybe had her own room she has her own
[01:20:14] house that's a six bedroom house that's family so now six bedroom room as it was like we we saw the exterior it's a six bedroom house room has an n-sync poster still in it yes right they left it as it was before the scene the
[01:20:32] scene before that scene the breakfast scene i think is like wonderfully tense like it's so it's so good yeah and like it's like it's it's that that realization that she has like oh i'm an intruder like this i don't belong here this
[01:20:46] so strange another scene i really like on that sort of note is when she walks in through the kitchen and is running her hand along all the appliances like checking out all the new appliances they have but also all the shitty like art
[01:20:59] they have oh the the weird dog war hall that you were obsessed with oh they yeah the dog war the dog war horrible dog a perfect like yeah they have a bad dog rich the bourbon dog that ugly poodle that weird series of like
[01:21:14] wood signs that like a barrel signs all the barrel signs she's like oh this is like your life now like it's so lame she's like scoffing at those while also coveting every like appliance she touches the bath right right then you go back to
[01:21:29] her apartment she can't believe it as a bath she's like shocked about the bath bathtub well her apartment is leaves much to be decided you know it's not the best part yeah but you have these brief moments of like real kind of like intimacy and poyancy and
[01:21:43] and then so much of it just feels so kind of sitcom me right while also lacking big jokes or big emotional catharsis is that a big slap what i was going to say is there a laugh in this movie i mean
[01:21:55] i think you know a couple of mamie's moments kind of make me laugh like her sort of i need a doughnut and then also what was the other one i wrote down was when she says i need a dough oh oh this i don't know that this is
[01:22:08] a laugh but it was like a i don't know how to feel about this line when the son says i was born gay and she was and she says i was born ricky incredible i don't know what to make of
[01:22:19] i know that line where i'm like i don't know that that means anything but i mean you have it in your back pocket i also believe that ricky would say that and then the family yes and the family's like use you well the family's like
[01:22:30] what what okay whatever typical ricky you know i was born ricky yeah i need a doughnut i need a doughnut it's i don't mind this movie i think it's alright i had a good time watching at the second i agree i agree with most of
[01:22:42] the flaws being pointed out i'll say this we're gonna do a bonus episode we haven't decided exactly what it is was probably giving me the dress in timber like things since it's a lot of something more further acknowledgement some of the
[01:22:52] you have to do it you have to compare it to his password love it you love it yeah especially like doing that after ricky and looking at ricky because we're looking at ricky compared to all of his past work and being like what happened
[01:23:04] that's the ultimate what happened of what made got him to this point i think so i i think we should do it i'm gonna watch it if it doesn't feel like it's worth doing we'll do something else we'll do our he made so many docs
[01:23:14] bang well we'll do it i'll say he made a lot of films he did and watching this i was like it this might be his worst film which if this is the worst film you've ever made you're pretty come in that was my question no ricky is not
[01:23:28] even close to his worst film come in i'm a master builder but i would also say that you know like crazy mama and fighting mad crazy mom and cage she far more than this this one is just disappointing and
[01:23:44] i blame him for a lot of it sorry like that's that's more my thing is like i'm just a lot of these these decisions that we're talking about are him i blame her i don't blame him at all i think
[01:23:53] she you blame maryl i blame me i blame maryl for all this i just think he meant like versus diablo versus him i feel like well i think you ever had right certainly did not write it for maryl made that clear i think that i
[01:24:05] just think that like maryl and demi has this line where she's like i mean i thought about her like it's sort of like kind like but you're also took this movie and just and just kind of hijacked it and i would like to believe that
[01:24:16] diablo is i don't know perceptive enough to have like once she heard that maryl was attached she was like fuck yeah like i feel like if you wrote this movie and you found out maryl was if you if you believe that i'm like god
[01:24:28] damn it well but also it's like oh well get me because i'm sure diablo has five if i ever meet diablo phoney i'm gonna ask about ricky in the flesh i'd love to read i'd love to know her script that god ever
[01:24:38] attached but this is also demi's first studio film in 11 years rachel getting married felt like him sort of being liberated yeah and then he makes master builder which is probably his worst movie and it's never watching it but right he never had the
[01:24:52] sort of like the master builder really it was like walla shaming like dad on you shoot that's three days and he's like oh sure walla is you know i can't wait to not watch this movie and listen to your episode about it really
[01:25:02] sounds like there's a lot of slapstick it's a great episode it's about 40 minutes on playmobil but uh oh julie hagerty july hagerty is actually july hagerty she ain't bad in that one master builders on criterion collection it's on the criterion collection
[01:25:14] hey it was it was inducted into the collection and definitely not as a favor is it on the channel i believe it is on the channel oh yeah i can watch it's on the channel it's on the channel i hear master builder challenge it
[01:25:25] gets tens of views a year i'm making tix talk about master builder i'm not obligated to like finish watching that movie i will say okay so she's in this too this leesa joist so is she related is she in the family and the
[01:25:37] jonathan demmy family i don't know i mean he really loved her in that movie yeah okay like in the interview about master builder he was like leesa joist what a you know star right and she plays the she plays the new the new wife who works
[01:25:49] in traffic she's not the master builder and has the um the stickers yes okay um no walla shan's the master builder he's the master builder and i'll say this i'll list you a master builder challenge much like uh you can't eat more than five saltines in a row
[01:26:03] i don't think you can watch more than ten minutes of a master building i'll try i'm betting that i think this could make i'm gonna give it the thing about master builders i'll probably will do it bobby will do it i won't do it there's so
[01:26:13] many things i haven't watched but now i like now that i've been dared i'm like well i'm gonna fucking watch it right when i get home the thing about it is i won't do it i won't do it there there is probably that i can't
[01:26:22] watch master builder there might be 15 minutes of that movie you could watch but the first half hour is such an incredible it would still get a netflix uh netflix rating if it still count watch only ten minutes of it that's right
[01:26:35] you get a high five you get it right more people have watched a master builder than what's the irish man yeah all right let's play the box um no i just want to say in summation i feel like and and maybe it's because we're sentimental at
[01:26:47] this point we've been covering this guy i love the man this is the ostensible end of the journey but i see so little of him here and the things that work the music is where you see his fingerprints on them that i think he's getting lost in a
[01:27:00] combination of maryl and possibly also uh tom rothman who is notoriously very controlling at fox very domineering and and sort of micromanaging of everything even just to the visual scheme of the movie i mean the thing we're talking about where it's like
[01:27:15] every set is too big every scene is too bright i do think like the only maryl version of this movie that could have worked had to cost less than ten million dollars yes and it was maryl agreeing to be in a jonathan demmy movie rather than maryl
[01:27:30] hiring jonathan demmy to do is add it to your master builders on criterion you plus did you add it to the lot of plus stop plus you should make your own playlist called bobby's dares bobby's i'm gonna like dare him to watch some
[01:27:42] movies that he should actually be watching all right wait let's play the box office we're going to talk about the top five of that box office in august 7th 2015 because most of those maryl comedies were july or august yeah and this got put there classic
[01:27:56] demmy model was more to premiere at a festival st venest or you know whatever and then give an awards play but clearly maybe because of what you're saying or just because they saw the movie and they're like yeah we don't know it didn't get the
[01:28:08] awards i believe every word we know lakarno it did reprimand lakarno which is i've never been neither you know i'm sure it's nice it's in the alps or whatever all right number one at the box office premiered in the alps it premiered right now cool they
[01:28:22] projected it onto the out it's a uh it's an entry in a long running franchise i believe it is your favorite is my favorite in this franchise in 2015 yes it's not in its second week it's made a hundred and seven million
[01:28:41] total it's a big hit is it dawn of the plan of the eight nope it's made a hundred and seven total don its way to a worldwide gross of almost seven hundred million dollars wow jeez where is it in the franchise fifth last no no no
[01:29:01] seven hundred million dollars yeah it's fifth it's the fifth in this franchise well it's not transformers no no because it's whichever the fifth was the last right she can't expen off right and cogman is a psychopath of course ah fifth in a franchise it's my favorite
[01:29:18] it's your favorite this is pretty easy this is pretty easy well i said because i said it's your favorite i said this is the fifth in a franchise like what's a franchise we talk about i know but it's not fast five i'm trying to think of
[01:29:28] franchise that peak at five for me yeah i mean do you know fast five definitely i'll eat it right i'm fast i'm furious i feel like this should be easy too and i don't know either how many movies get to five is it live
[01:29:38] action animated it's live action there's been six and there's there's more on the way there's more on the way there's been six it's been six it's not a horror franchise nope is an action for an action franchise and this one's my favorite this one's my
[01:29:57] favorite the fifth of all films right but you're right fast five is the other that's i mean i don't know how many other series that's why i'm trying to think it's so rare that's what's dumping me here okay is it like a star driven
[01:30:09] franchise there's one person in all of them yes big star male or female male male soccer male star can you believe it what buster hollywood franchise telling me a built around the the charisma of a leading man well i look i've watched to see and there are no
[01:30:24] good parts left okay it's a fifth film weirdest thing is constantly picking it over it's insane from 1982 or whatever and they put it on broadway recently and they were like and no it's still the time for it and everyone was like did you change it and they were
[01:30:39] like i'm not really in there like okay well you probably know good parts for men no one's right parts for men come on now griffin fifth film what's an action franchise what's an action franchise give me some furious i'm like drawing a blank
[01:30:54] all right um it's not john wick there are only three this film introduced not i mean it wasn't her first performance bobby is it i is it a born no then yeah i don't know this film introduced an actress i would say is a star and
[01:31:08] it's a big sort of star making performance oh oh oh oh that's impossible it's a supposed to rug nation oh wow of course yes it is your favorite one no question oh my god she's good she's good wait that's so obvious it's very obvious that's
[01:31:23] why i was kind of surprised i was like how many action franchises are there five is just like five isn't the best one no of course what's your favorite fallout i think one and six are my favorites i mean there's a case to be
[01:31:36] made for fallout five six four one six three one two and then only they're five five six and one or second only two seven and eight which i'm certainly going to be the best seven and eight are going to be so good that they
[01:31:50] get to be like their own country or those protocols the only one i've seen in theaters ever so loved it oh loved it i was so stoned rug nation i will say i've i mean it's great a million times i love it the opera
[01:32:01] sequence the only movie i don't like in that series is two yeah so that's fine i think right yeah everyone agrees yeah everyone agrees all right you're gonna have a lot of fans screaming for like ten minutes as you didn't know none of us
[01:32:12] interesting that five is your favorite unquestionably number two i think five is like perfect yeah box office yeah is i think maybe my least favorite movie of the year we've talked about it on this podcast we had an episode we've covered
[01:32:25] it okay yes um it's new this week opening to 25 which is a colossal disappointment to its studio is it fantastic for yes wow yeah the uh josh trank the josh trank right ricky came out the same week as as that is correct ricky by the way is
[01:32:44] opening at number seven rogue nations in week two fantastic four is opening the same yeah okay okay people were like i think fox was hoping fantastic forward open to what 60 70 you know like a big healthy i remember them being like oh it might bomb this weekend with
[01:32:58] 40 or 50 exactly that was the story and then open to 25 yeah who was in that that well we've got miles teller okay so this is not the chris evans on was 10 years prior exactly we've got my kobe jordan's okay we've got kate mara we have uh jamey bell
[01:33:12] is the thing toby cabel toby cabel as uh the doom reggie kathy reggie kathy it's got a weirdly good cast okay and like nelson recast yeah reggie kathy is franklin storm uh ricky what were what were other movies that could have taken that took rickies who took rickies
[01:33:29] these didn't take rickies are there any ricky adjacent what other ricky movies are there on the list because it feels like this is a time of year where ricky shall yeah where's um where's the other heartfelt family classics sort of adult drama days yeah give me
[01:33:42] something i mean mr holmes is chugging along okay uh in terms of family you know mr holmes would be a pixel sitting there at number nine urn and okay okay well what's what's number three yeah all right number three number three is also new this week and
[01:33:56] was sort of a surprise hit so it's like a sort of a horror drama like kind of like a thrillery you know like a dark um is it the uh i'm forgetting the name of it now but the edgerton movie
[01:34:07] yes the gift okay the gift uh i was going to come out for kind of a crummy ending but the box and you know another big word fucked up jason bateman performance yeah yeah good a good word of mouth everyone was talking about it
[01:34:19] yeah like the i had to see the gift edgerton's really good no i was like i gotta go see it it may have seen it no i've seen it no i have seen it on a five million dollar budget you know
[01:34:27] like it was uh and i think that was the first stx release maybe very early very blum house but not blum house i guess it was it was it was just one house before blum house was like exclusively with it's very
[01:34:39] blum house yeah um and uh and then of course joel edgerton went on to make boy erased a film we all saw remember oh yeah i kind of felt like yeah i love boy erase yeah did you guys watch the loudest voice the scene where also
[01:34:51] crow throws a cake at someone it's pretty good no but that was the best performance in a mini series last year i cannot believe i cannot believe boy erased is like literally erased for 48 hours i just just talk about boy erase when he goes to the he goes
[01:35:05] to the camp and he's like this sucks yeah and then there's like you know what it does it sucks you're leaving and then i was like what yeah and the miseducation of camera post she's there for a damn season at the very least
[01:35:16] right so let's move on to miss education nicole kippen is at a Hampton Inn a block away she's all right over there he goes to the Hampton Inn every night he's barely erased he doesn't sleep at the boy erased like i'm allowed to say
[01:35:29] this right i was gonna say this poor person's drama on this bullsh** movie slash bullshit as a sandwich i'd like to see a boy actually get a good cut in that movie listen sir i know boys who've been erased number four isn't that one of those
[01:35:45] weird movies like hacksaw ridge where all but the lead actor are australian even though it's not set in australia is it is an american story am i wrong about destroy savon not american zavier dolan is not american right but like kidman savon well yeah
[01:36:01] pro and entertainer all australian yeah and joe allwin he's english right but like hacksaw then flea flea hacksaw ridge everyone but that was shot in that's my question is there some australian film tax rebate thing going on with boy erased is there a reason why he
[01:36:18] put so many australian movie stars in it they shot in georgia weird georgia that was the time where there was lots of movies about boys being erased a lot of boy movies beautiful there was a beautiful boy and of course we all remember the ben came back and
[01:36:32] came back beautiful boy but yeah there was too much beautiful ben was erased that was back a great movie that did not get as much attention as it i like you're saying you like yeah we like you got two big ben we love
[01:36:43] that is back when ben comes back again at the end the second time he comes back that's the twist i guess it's good he comes back twice we got a couple ben is backers over here we love we do he comes back twice you should
[01:36:59] the movie doesn't say that comes back guy named ben should run for president and like you know maybe have like sort of a fallow period yeah you know where they're like oh there you go and i like and he comes out he's like
[01:37:12] you want to crown loves a ben is back they fucking love it you want ben is back jokes listen to who weekly that's yeah that's where they all have i have i shown you i've got of course i haven't shown you this
[01:37:22] picture i got a text from a mutual friend of ours who was at his gym i love this pic and it was a it was a you know you don't take photos of someone at a gym don't ymca was ever ever ever okay
[01:37:33] not cool and he's on a you know a treadmill or something and he's taking a photo of someone else in front of him on a treadmill empty gym the photo has one person in it and it's the person's back and they're on the
[01:37:42] treadmill and they're wearing a ben is back hoodie like a production crew hoodie ben is back product and he says spotted at my gym like do you think they worked on ben is back and i was like ha ha well that's like clearly like
[01:37:53] a crew hoodie he must have worked on ben is back wait a second that's peter hedges hundred percent peter hedges wow that's peter how are you working out and then i said i said in the photo of peter hedges and i was like is this the
[01:38:04] man you saw and he was like yeah that's absolutely the man i saw wearing the ben is black ben is back hoodie at my gym that is so sweet it's cute lucas hedges a father would wear crew memorabilia for didn't he write ben
[01:38:16] is back already he directed it less cute i i still think it's pleasant it's a funny moment yeah yeah i was like oh imagine seeing peter hedges wearing like a waves t-shirt ben is back it's no it's it's so sweet regardless it's still cute peter hedges
[01:38:32] it's so cute i always forget right that that's back a second time it was unexpected but he came back again getting derailed on ben is back number four the box hour we still oh we're almost done is a reboot slash sequel
[01:38:46] of a comedy you know sort of a dormant comedy frances vacation with helms yeah it's a bad movie give me the final total on that one 25 no my friend it made 58 domestic 102 worldwide stinker weekend it is like a side i guess
[01:39:04] i saw ricky at the cobble hill cinema with like my roommate because we were just like let's go see a movie and we were kind of like perfect ricky what do we see like we had to really scroll and i was like oh well ricky
[01:39:15] in the fun because it kind of just came and when ricky at cobble is classic it was that's why i saw home again oh great place to see home again i also saw home again at the cobble hill cinema fly literally like flew in
[01:39:26] front of the lens i was one person there the other person was lindsay robertson oh me and lindsay robertson yeah that's a good number five i was gonna say oh go ahead i remember this is the august where mission impossible was number one for like three or four
[01:39:39] consecutive weeks because everything was flopping everything was just kind of not connecting because mission possible opened well but not humongous but then multiplied because it was just like the only fucking thing i could touch it you know what's coming down the pike next week is straight out
[01:39:51] of compton another surprise summer hit that year a big hit um uh the number five is an marvel movie it's a marvel movie now writing out it's yeah it's been out for a month it's made a hundred fifty 2015 so it would have been a
[01:40:07] july film they they sully did yeah they saw it if they did in july why am i not thinking of the obvious thing it is it's not a cat in america it's not a thour is it a first film yes
[01:40:20] is it the the spider man no no but it does feature one of the stars of what i assume is 2020's biggest box office hit ghost posters afterlife oh god oh it's ant-man some other movie what a killer replica there's a gunner seat
[01:40:37] oh my god a gunner seat um that's my favorite part of the original ghost busters is the gunner seat fucking minions is uh is hanging out in the top 10 you got train wreck uh everyone remembers that was a huge it
[01:40:49] yeah brawn james is in it it's a movie came out my favorite movie i love train wreck pixels as i mentioned i fell in love i do love it and brian cox performance is incredible yes josh gad fox cuber josh gad fox cuber
[01:41:01] as always likes to remind all kevin james is the president of the united states is the president of the united states believable the premise of that movie apart from the video game characters in vade america is that adam sandler is friends with kevin
[01:41:15] james i'm like i get that i'm there i'm there makes sense and he had to be president of the united states right but taken as a given and brian cox is adam sandler's father no no brad cox is like the secretary of defense sure and
[01:41:28] he keeps screaming at everyone does someone play sandler's father in it yeah cuber no i don't know i don't know okay like josh gad fox cuber he does they have like children josh gad is josh gad a human or is
[01:41:39] a huber is he a human no josh gad is a human he fucks ashley benson ashley benson turns out to be cuber in an ashley benson disguise what but then the do the babies look like the babies look like benson or cuber should i see this
[01:41:52] movie probably okay uh it's a great movie i've forgotten the very good it is really good look of pixels is it half live action half animator is it all cg so adam sandler is adam sandler he plays like josh gad is josh
[01:42:08] gad pixels is ghost squaders i gotta see this movie but video game adds it to your criterion is it on criteria the idea is the idea of the aliens who somehow like interpreted video game signals as like something we'll understand it's like a reverse
[01:42:23] galaxy quest where the evil aliens are like we're going to attack you with your media okay so they attack we deserve that earth with like donkey kong and pac-man put like characters from the leftovers and like all the things that we love the baby cuber
[01:42:36] pixelated ladies but they don't look at anything like josh gad they just look like cuba the genes are so strong yeah got the last thing we need our powerful josh gad genes thank god cuba jeans are like bruce willis jeans where they'll override all the
[01:42:50] demi more you know i gotta see this movie okay you gotta see it after we finish i'll show you i'm sorry for hitter rama i'm really it is very very very much ripped off from peter rama pixels was a short film that someone
[01:43:05] made and i used the term short film very loosely it's just like they're falling from the sky like that's a correct it was just good it was good animation it was a visual effects show real it was like i believe the person was like an aspiring visual effects
[01:43:16] are and he made it and it was just like what space is in the real right and went viral and then there was this massive studio bit of bidding war and he got paid millions of dollars for the short iris back that then had no
[01:43:29] stake in the movie or no involvement in the movie right and it was everyone being like do we do it as a serious drama do we do it as a comedy and it became adam sandler trying to do ghostbusters with chris columbus and it
[01:43:39] did well became adam sandler coming back to a suicidal daughter's like recovery period adam sandler ak ricky rindaza it did all right it's also the last like theatrical happy madison that's when he fully went to no uncut gems it was the last adam sandler movie to get
[01:43:55] a wide release yeah wow weird and like the one two thirteen that hadn't done well it's the pg-13 oh they hadn't done well everyone was like this is going to be his comeback it does like eighty and he was like cool i'm just
[01:44:05] sticking on now no yeah he's like all right i'll move on yeah i'll do a comedy special in a few years that'll be great yeah we'll do the rest of all slowly get back to doing the things that people like to see me do anyway um that's it
[01:44:17] ricky fun salute ready for ricky we've got ready we got ready and what a marathon imagine doing this type of podcast every week i know Jesus christ well you were saying before we do ours twice a week and that's already where when we hit 40 minutes we're like
[01:44:31] we were comparing notes before this talking about like you you folks do like 40 minutes twice a week no guess yeah totally current events we record for like 120 we cut it down you cut down to 30 40 sometimes we're not successful yeah but we try that's like us our records
[01:44:47] are usually like eight eight and a half yeah and then we cut down to like thirty two fifteen yeah yeah yeah yeah okay um but but yes and then you guys are very topical yes yeah like you have to record the week of because you're
[01:45:01] you got a listen week that's your eight hours i mean people claim you don't let people like to go back and listen and it's like i could listen to the blank check episode about slants the lambs anytime right but i mean for ours too i
[01:45:11] think people go back and they they like it as a time capsule they get nostalgic they also like we do kind of go off topic we do tell jokes it is it's a little bit it's topical but i think that we're surprised i will say i have
[01:45:22] a friend to just i i think recently listened to your entire catalog wild talk to see i love i know that i have to i love it it said i do that though if i fall over the podcast i want to hear him talking
[01:45:34] makes me happy i love to hear it and it's funny to it to sort of wistfully look back upon the the hoos of yesteryear yes who are always a change in still not them sister revolving door for god yeah yeah that's true here's a question
[01:45:47] sure answer i i just thought of this it's gonna seem like i was laying out the runway for this but i this just hit me okay we're recording this in january yeah it is january the episode will come out in march yes right you
[01:45:59] always record topically yeah the episode comes out the next day yeah would you like to on the record since we have an eight week time capsule for this thing comes out do you have a prediction of a who who might turn into
[01:46:11] them in the next two months no well i don't know one who's that close i just don't the only the thing that could like turn you into a them is like a big scandal you almost can't anticipate a big scandal or or not
[01:46:24] movie so is there are there two movies or an oscar when well weird if like it's like a win here now it's not already right and so it's like like florins pew is not winning anything also he's not going to suddenly be a
[01:46:34] then because of that like there's no well all right i know there's no like there's no like not there's no like reberto benigni character you know like there's no like comical left fielder who's gonna come out and stomp on that you know what i mean like i'm really
[01:46:46] not person isn't gonna go isn't gonna have we need new benigni do you see benigni's doing a new panocchio yeah crazy taking another crack at it but he's drapedo this time he didn't do it already did that yeah yeah he's oh that's what you mean a new panocchio
[01:46:59] he's doing another one he's doing another one um but you know i i guess what you're saying makes sense no it's it's hard to in the span of two months it's hard to predict right like that is the most because the very short amount of time
[01:47:12] and the people we are thinking of like the people who's who exist like we know the pathway towards them and like that's not just gonna happen and someone like pew it would have to be a it would have to be someone who
[01:47:23] literally came out of nowhere sure and someone like pew who is like so legitimate it's still a slow burn exactly everyone else is gonna play it smart she's gonna take the incremental steps broadly she seems like an overnight success but none of these people ever
[01:47:36] really are of course yeah like we're still thinking about brie larson as a who to be honest with you yeah that's interesting even though she for a film lover we actually gave that a new verb because she's larsening she's larsening she's larsening that's when
[01:47:49] you're sort of in the zone we're like all the pieces add up to what should be of them but it's like no one knows who she is right like she still gets that like when you're larsening you have all the pieces
[01:47:57] title but yeah but we're still kind of like she's the single star of a billion dollar film yeah yeah people could name jacob trimly before they can name well trim blazer i'd be like oh the kid from room they see brie larson they're like
[01:48:12] trim plays one of our most consistent box office performers that boy will drag your movie to 100 it's fucking teeth i love him i love trim boy remember when he got disemboweled on screen this year last year bad what was it
[01:48:27] we bad boy did you see oh i got a seed that reminds me i got to see the life and the death and life of john donovan john john ray donovan oh god ray donovan someone told me there's a scene in that movie where
[01:48:38] jacob trim play uh because he goes he flies to london a lot to like do auditions or something alone and there's a scene where nettley portman's like yeah he goes to london sometimes for auditions and no it's not met with any questions and i mean a child in
[01:48:52] the new that movie which i have not not the box looks like i got a played it like several festivals johnny donnie but like it's like you know that joke about how like michael jackson and like 1991 like you could say anything about
[01:49:03] him and people would believe it because he got so weird yeah that's what that movie you can say anything happens really where fucking that there's a scene you know k harington fox walrus and i'm like yeah sounds like don donovan yeah but my the reason i bring
[01:49:14] it up is he's not dragging that to 100 million dollars i have anything no we're not i mean if he pulled that off we should maybe think about him being like in the cabinet and dr sleep bomb to i think he has to be in the top three build
[01:49:26] of dr sleep no of any movie i think that you give him a good boys you give him a wonder you know he is pulling that thing across the finish line i saw i saw good i gave good boys money it's rental rental money okay money
[01:49:41] it's like you went to the theater see good josh really wanted to see good boys why it's almost disturbing really wanted to see it and he liked it i thought it was kind of a disaster i think it's pretty mediocre you can
[01:49:50] pay me enough money to see a movie yeah it's just the way that ending is i think i said the tv ending i'm kind of like oh wow it was a long it was sort of a long running joke where it's like i got i got
[01:50:03] to see that good boys because of the because of the poster they all lose their virginities no no one loses their virginity well it's something involving a drone to be honest i forgot a lot about a lot of drone business there's so much drone but 10 to 11
[01:50:14] year olds probably do really like dr Tremblay has one smootch he's got one big smootch i feel you know it's just at the end they've been in a war with well he they're in this little war with the teenage girls who are like
[01:50:30] 18 and want their molly uh-huh and at the end of the part at the end of the movie they show up into the kids and they're like you kids are all right yeah figure it out it's fine but then they sort of grow apart which is
[01:50:41] nice that's the sweet thing the girl that he gets broken up with the girl that's kind of a cute funny ending is good enough that it sort of just sold me on the for the movies and the and the one boy
[01:50:50] sings i want to know what love is which is kind of sweet lindsay they cross a high way with rock of ages because they can't drive and they cross a highway it's the kind of dumb shit that's the funniest part of the movie yeah i'm remembering all these
[01:51:01] things the rock of ages thing is pretty hilarious pretty good wait a second this movie probably made more money than like long shot which made more money than no question it made more money than ricky in the flash no question movie but young boys big boys bad boys
[01:51:13] good boys like easily for life do you think i'm gonna do a sequel to almost all the only of trim blade comes back i believe good boys was the highest grossing comedy the last two years better boys best boys oh like original yeah original live action comedy
[01:51:28] because it made like 95 i believe that just i believe just like i believe anything you say about pixels or whatever you're saying john f donovan i'll believe it maybe they're the same movie with two different titles released in different markets johnny donnie and good boys and
[01:51:41] pixel we do need like a vox lux for 2020 that we need to see it's gotta be johnny donnie donnie because it's out we can rent it okay we gotta do it because we were we did stars you know we focus on film we get
[01:51:51] obsessed with johnny donnie was big one vox lux was a big one for you folks we need a we needed a new one yeah we got to work on that and if johnny disappoints maybe you go back in its pixels if if what
[01:52:04] what are we doing here still talking about john yeah please bobby finger i was trying to find the oh here we go lindsay wet burr i was i was gonna say thank you for being here thank you so much for being here well uh everyone should listen to
[01:52:17] who weekly it's the best two of you're the best the two of you campaigning for reiki yeah weaponizing the who weekly army yep sorry gave us the gift of many months of demmy we'll do it again many many months of demmy which has been an incredibly pleasant
[01:52:33] realm it's been fantastic i've highly enjoyed your fans are gonna demand us back yes no question and then our fans are going to jump on and we'll come back for uh what's the worst movie that we could follow this know you do when you next time you
[01:52:43] do a poll oh we will let us know we'll let you know we'll set the worst movie on the poll i'm gonna set alerts on your on your twitter i all i never miss a tweet from i feel like i want to
[01:52:54] when we finish recording show bobby and lindsay who is on the list right now and see who their pick would be hell yeah i'd be curious sign us up okay so let's finish recording the episode all right listeners what is good boys the high schoolers in
[01:53:06] coming last two years well it's classifying the upside as a comedy which i think is kind of it's unfair i haven't seen it's more of a drama i think that's unfair but right in 2017 we have 200 million gross you're forget your girl strip is actually not the last
[01:53:21] hundred million gross there's one after girls are getting the daddy came home again he came home to daddy came daddy daddy's home too fuck that made a lot of money it made a lot of money made 101 wow well daddy's home oh was it
[01:53:34] will ferrell and melton lips and and wow it was the fourth the we call the quad the quad i don't know the classic quad daddy comes home to ferrell walberg gibson lithgow if ever mount rushmore of comedy if ever a comedy we don't deserve good movies no
[01:53:51] we don't no we don't like we don't deserve good movies it's shocking that we get any emily or she does review of dies home too is a perfect perfect piece of writing but she just talks about like i know i'm not supposed to review the phenomenon surrounding
[01:54:05] a movie right but i need to just review what it's like watching an audience watch daddy's home too yeah um if ever a comedy sequel demanded a comma to and didn't get it it was daddy's home to his home too all right we're done yeah thank you all
[01:54:19] for listening please remember to rate and be subscribed thanks to angela for good for our social media job on pet realms for our artwork go to blankies i read it dot com for some real nerdy shit we're throwing out a little bonus
[01:54:35] we'll decide what it is later because we're recording this far in advance but we'll give you our final demi thoughts and our rankings in that bonus episode which will come out this thursday and we can announce this now i guess we can next mini series shit
[01:54:49] i guess you're right i mean well okay great let me just say next week we're gonna do it's our next week is our fifth anniversary special oh that's true you're five years old we're five years old so where are we going to announce that too i assume
[01:55:05] we'll discuss it okay fine something will go it's a look let's just announce the next main series and something will come out next week all right i think we should announce the next many series okay go ahead we're doing george miller that's
[01:55:17] right yes who that's me be demi beat yes was he the number two how many movies like a nice one two three four five six seven eight nine for that one you took a poll nine is one you just decided we just decided okay love
[01:55:31] but he was number two in in the last bracket you feel it felt like a i'm sorry eight films yeah a gentleman's eight and no it has to be eight eight four of them are mad max is two of them are happy feats this cannot be eight oh
[01:55:46] no i'm sorry i'm i was it's nine i was missing the special episode that's so yeah anyway it's nice a babe sequel two happy feet format max is lorenzo's oil which is a beast way what a fucking weird filmography that's right very excited to get into it yep
[01:56:03] and what are we doing for the fifth anniversary well no by the time you listen to this all right i figured that anyway we can talk about it okay i'll talk about it later but thanks again for listening thank you bobby and lindsay for coming on it's
[01:56:15] for having us that was really fun we will have you on again soon um and as always those boys are just too damn good