Roadies with Layne Montgomery

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and Dave

[00:00:08] What's a say or two expert?

[00:00:14] All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check

[00:00:20] I think the general public has no idea what Roadies do.

[00:00:23] Bless them all. I just play the podcast!

[00:00:26] Boo!

[00:00:27] That's a Tom Petty quote.

[00:00:29] Boo!

[00:00:29] And we're kicking off our episode with a Tom Petty quote

[00:00:32] just like Showtime's Roadies kicks off its whole season with a Tom Petty quote.

[00:00:40] Ladies and gentlemen, my name-

[00:00:41] Thank you for pausing for my boo.

[00:00:42] Anytime. You know why? Because I am your friend and collectively we are hashtag the two friends.

[00:00:48] And this is-

[00:00:49] The Who Friends?

[00:00:51] It's the Who Friends.

[00:00:53] Griffin Newman.

[00:00:54] David Sims.

[00:00:55] This is Blank Check-

[00:00:56] I was listening to the Who on the subway.

[00:00:58] God.

[00:01:00] Oh my lord.

[00:01:01] I don't care. I'm taking this off the rails as much as I can in this episode.

[00:01:04] I'm trying to-

[00:01:05] I'm fucking Stephen Segal.

[00:01:06] You're taking us into dark territory.

[00:01:09] Foreshadowing.

[00:01:10] And I'm trying to keep this train on the tracks.

[00:01:12] My name's Griffin Newman.

[00:01:13] Your name's David Sims.

[00:01:14] This is Blank Check with Griffin and David.

[00:01:16] This is a podcast where you go through filmographies, directors,

[00:01:20] who have big success early on

[00:01:21] and are given a series of Blank Checks creatively to do crazy projects.

[00:01:26] Sometimes-

[00:01:28] Sometimes?

[00:01:28] Those fucking- those checks cash out?

[00:01:30] Sometimes they bounce, baby.

[00:01:31] Sometimes they bounce over 10 episodes of television on a premium cable.

[00:01:35] And sometimes it's charming.

[00:01:38] Nope.

[00:01:40] This mini-series is called We Pod a Cast.

[00:01:42] It's over!

[00:01:43] The ultimate episode.

[00:01:44] It's over!

[00:01:46] Well what a roller coaster it's been.

[00:01:48] Life's a carnival, is it not?

[00:01:50] It was a roller coaster like in that thing where it's like-

[00:01:52] You start at the top.

[00:01:53] You take a big ladder, you climb to the top.

[00:01:55] And then it dips a little bit and then it goes back to the top

[00:01:58] and then it just goes down.

[00:01:59] And then it's over.

[00:02:00] You're forgetting that time.

[00:02:00] It's like a log flume.

[00:02:01] Forgetting that time we bought a zoo.

[00:02:03] Ladies and gentlemen-

[00:02:03] Yes!

[00:02:03] True.

[00:02:04] Ladies and gentlemen, our final episode.

[00:02:06] The most recent Cameron Crowe project is a 10-part

[00:02:10] Showtime original series, A Dromity.

[00:02:13] The last Cameron Crowe project?

[00:02:15] Who knows?

[00:02:15] We made that same joke on our last episode.

[00:02:18] Yeah.

[00:02:18] Ladies and gentlemen,

[00:02:19] Rodies.

[00:02:21] And-

[00:02:22] Boo!

[00:02:23] I was just seeing water so I wasn't fast with that.

[00:02:25] Here to talk about Raise With Us is a very special guest.

[00:02:28] Now here's the thing.

[00:02:30] You've heard him before.

[00:02:31] Yeah, almost every week.

[00:02:33] Almost every week.

[00:02:34] He comes in, he licks.

[00:02:35] Every episode of 2016 you've heard him.

[00:02:38] Yes, for sure.

[00:02:38] Yes.

[00:02:39] Reggie Watt style.

[00:02:41] I love that old joke.

[00:02:42] It's a great bit.

[00:02:43] Great old bit.

[00:02:44] He is the man behind our theme song for this show,

[00:02:48] The Blank Check Song.

[00:02:49] Indeed.

[00:02:50] That of course, you know, it's sort of-

[00:02:52] I mean at this point the song has become more popular

[00:02:54] than the show.

[00:02:55] Easily.

[00:02:55] It's sort of like Anakendrick's cops.

[00:02:56] They're spitting it off.

[00:02:57] It's a number one billboard single.

[00:02:59] We got to make a music video and we're like,

[00:03:00] we didn't expect this to be a hit,

[00:03:02] but you know the public decides.

[00:03:04] I can't do it.

[00:03:05] I can't do the cups.

[00:03:06] And took a ticket for the long run.

[00:03:08] When I'm gone.

[00:03:10] Let's go ahead.

[00:03:11] We already got enough fully work

[00:03:12] coming up a couple episodes from it.

[00:03:15] Ben suggested he would strongly edit that episode.

[00:03:17] Not true.

[00:03:18] We're stretching it out.

[00:03:19] Ha ha ha.

[00:03:20] Stretching it out.

[00:03:22] Ladies and gentlemen-

[00:03:23] Pass me the-

[00:03:23] Ladies and gentlemen, he is a musician.

[00:03:25] Yeah, sorry.

[00:03:26] You know him from outfits such as

[00:03:28] the Great American Novel

[00:03:29] and then currently the romantic comedy.

[00:03:31] Yes.

[00:03:31] Correct? Nailed it.

[00:03:32] Yeah, nailed it.

[00:03:33] Ladies and gentlemen, Lane Montgomery is here with us.

[00:03:35] Hi everyone.

[00:03:36] Woo!

[00:03:37] It's a-

[00:03:37] I actually-

[00:03:37] I actually-

[00:03:38] I actually expected applause for that for a second.

[00:03:41] At home everyone's doing golf.

[00:03:42] We don't do-

[00:03:43] We don't do applause on this podcast.

[00:03:44] We don't.

[00:03:44] No.

[00:03:46] Lane, you are a musician.

[00:03:47] Yes.

[00:03:48] You have toured.

[00:03:49] You've been-

[00:03:50] You've lived on the road.

[00:03:50] A little bit.

[00:03:51] But you've played on the road.

[00:03:52] Yeah.

[00:03:53] Did you go to Cincinnati?

[00:03:54] No, I've never been.

[00:03:56] I said the word.

[00:03:57] But now that's like I'm such a superstitious guy

[00:03:59] that that's going to be a thing in my head

[00:04:01] if I ever play Cincinnati.

[00:04:01] Is that an end up or is it-

[00:04:02] We'll get there.

[00:04:03] Well you know the rule.

[00:04:05] What's that?

[00:04:06] Well, Comedy Bang Bang was doing a live show in Cincinnati

[00:04:09] and they were doing their sound check

[00:04:10] and the crowd heard it.

[00:04:11] It was a late sound check and they thought

[00:04:14] that the show was happening.

[00:04:15] So they stampeded in and 15 people died.

[00:04:17] So you know what we have to do now.

[00:04:19] You have to go steal some eggs from a farm?

[00:04:21] Yeah.

[00:04:22] We cannot live-

[00:04:22] Are we going to fall in love?

[00:04:24] UCB offices until we find five copies of Bossy Pants.

[00:04:30] Luis Cosman is going to burst through the door.

[00:04:33] We have to get four bottles of Schweppes to drill.

[00:04:37] I'm done drinking the water.

[00:04:38] Okay.

[00:04:40] Lane also, you also your mother is a comedian.

[00:04:43] Yes.

[00:04:44] And you grew up in Las Vegas.

[00:04:45] Like you've spent your whole life sort of in-

[00:04:46] In the performance arts?

[00:04:48] That's true.

[00:04:48] But also around show folk.

[00:04:49] I mean you were sort of behind the scenes,

[00:04:53] backstage watching the nuts and bolts of things

[00:04:55] and then went into music and like-

[00:04:56] With the unsung heroes of rock?

[00:04:57] Yeah.

[00:04:58] And the unsung heroes of-

[00:05:00] Of comedy?

[00:05:00] Of comedy.

[00:05:01] Yeah, both.

[00:05:02] All three.

[00:05:04] But you know, you're a friend of the show.

[00:05:06] Of course gifted us with the theme song.

[00:05:08] No, you were the obvious candidate.

[00:05:10] You were the obvious candidate.

[00:05:10] We discussed you way back in the Say Anything Days.

[00:05:14] Just the obvious candidate.

[00:05:15] Yes.

[00:05:15] And it felt like-

[00:05:16] You know-

[00:05:17] Here's how the conversation went.

[00:05:18] Griffin said, oh we're going to have to do roadies

[00:05:20] and I said, oh what?

[00:05:22] I don't want to.

[00:05:23] Yeah.

[00:05:24] And he was like, by the way we should have laying on it.

[00:05:25] I was like, yeah that's fine.

[00:05:26] Yeah, right.

[00:05:27] That was sort of the conversation.

[00:05:30] But I thought you know,

[00:05:30] because we had not watched any roadies at the time,

[00:05:32] it felt like it'd be good to have someone

[00:05:36] with your background on to like sort of

[00:05:38] examine the veracity of the show.

[00:05:40] Yeah, right.

[00:05:40] You can be-

[00:05:41] We'll just throw something at you

[00:05:43] and use true false.

[00:05:44] True false.

[00:05:44] Yeah.

[00:05:44] Right?

[00:05:44] Yeah.

[00:05:45] Yeah.

[00:05:46] So roadies the show.

[00:05:48] True false.

[00:05:48] So true.

[00:05:49] Okay, great.

[00:05:51] Everything there actually happened.

[00:05:54] The state- the state and house band.

[00:05:57] True false.

[00:05:57] Real band.

[00:05:58] Yeah.

[00:05:58] Real band.

[00:05:58] Real band.

[00:05:59] I thought so.

[00:06:00] I love that they didn't give us any songs of theirs,

[00:06:02] except like a little line from one-

[00:06:05] There's one scene where they sing-

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:08] While they're like cutesy falling in love again.

[00:06:10] Yeah.

[00:06:10] We never hear Janine.

[00:06:11] You hear Rave Spall and Imogen Putes-

[00:06:14] Yes.

[00:06:15] Sing a little Janine,

[00:06:15] but you don't know what it actually sounds like.

[00:06:17] Maybe they're tone deaf.

[00:06:18] Yeah.

[00:06:19] The like variety of opening bands that they have makes me-

[00:06:23] Right.

[00:06:23] Have no idea what this band sounds like.

[00:06:24] No, absolutely not.

[00:06:26] And even just the response of like,

[00:06:29] Mr. Finger.

[00:06:31] Like what he sort of-

[00:06:33] Oh man.

[00:06:34] Boy, Mr. Finger.

[00:06:34] Hey.

[00:06:35] Mr. Finger.

[00:06:35] Hey.

[00:06:36] The second worst blogger character on the show.

[00:06:38] Well and I was going to say the way those two guys

[00:06:40] respond to the band it's like it doesn't make sense

[00:06:42] where this band functions in the universe.

[00:06:44] What kind of role they have.

[00:06:45] I took them as a worst Dawes.

[00:06:49] I don't even know if I know Dawes.

[00:06:51] That's the other thing.

[00:06:52] This is-

[00:06:52] I could see that.

[00:06:53] That was an old AV club joke.

[00:06:54] Okay.

[00:06:55] Shouting out the band Dawes in the comment section.

[00:06:58] They used to do that a lot.

[00:06:59] Yeah.

[00:06:59] I thought it would definitely be Coldplay-esque.

[00:07:01] You know?

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:02] That's the vibe I got.

[00:07:03] I mean-

[00:07:04] Mumford Sons?

[00:07:05] Mumford-

[00:07:05] The Mumford and the Sons?

[00:07:06] The Mumford Sons.

[00:07:07] You know The Mumford and his Sons?

[00:07:08] Yeah, there you go.

[00:07:09] You got it.

[00:07:09] Fourth time lucky here.

[00:07:10] The Mumford and his Sons.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:14] My mom and my sister lived in Paris for a year

[00:07:17] because my mom wanted my sister to see the world.

[00:07:22] I don't know.

[00:07:23] But I went to visit them and it was just my mom and my sister

[00:07:26] living in an apartment by themselves in a city

[00:07:29] where my sister didn't know anybody,

[00:07:30] felt very isolated.

[00:07:32] And they had their iPod,

[00:07:34] plugged into an iPod dock that just for-

[00:07:37] Like the first four days I was there

[00:07:38] just played this one fucking Mumford and Sons song on loop.

[00:07:41] And I just at one point just started screaming.

[00:07:43] I was like,

[00:07:44] Why is this song playing on loop?

[00:07:45] And they were like,

[00:07:45] Oh, well the iPod's broken.

[00:07:48] And I was like,

[00:07:48] What do you mean the iPod's broken?

[00:07:49] I looked at it and it was just on repeat one.

[00:07:52] And I turned it off but I was like,

[00:07:53] How long have you been listening to this song?

[00:07:54] And they were like,

[00:07:55] I don't know, like six months.

[00:07:57] Did they go mad?

[00:07:59] No, they seemed fine with it.

[00:08:00] But I like they were like,

[00:08:01] Oh, let's put on some music.

[00:08:02] And they just every time they were going to

[00:08:03] put on some music were resigned to listening to this one.

[00:08:09] You know that song?

[00:08:09] Yeah.

[00:08:10] It was that song.

[00:08:11] And I after four days was like,

[00:08:13] I never want to-

[00:08:13] Four days.

[00:08:14] Four days.

[00:08:14] I would last a minute.

[00:08:16] I lasted maybe four days and was like,

[00:08:18] I will never hear that song ever again.

[00:08:19] They did for six months.

[00:08:21] I want to vomit when I hear the name Mumford.

[00:08:23] All right.

[00:08:23] Are we done talking about Rodies?

[00:08:24] Because that was fine.

[00:08:26] That was fine.

[00:08:26] Good app guys.

[00:08:27] Yeah.

[00:08:27] That was good.

[00:08:29] Rodies is a 10 part showtime original series

[00:08:32] that premiered in May

[00:08:33] and just just finale.

[00:08:35] It just finale last Sunday was recording this.

[00:08:38] Oh, perfectly timed.

[00:08:39] And people ask why we-

[00:08:40] Well timed.

[00:08:40] Push Cameron Crow ahead of James Cameron.

[00:08:42] It's because three months were now

[00:08:45] no one will remember that Rodies exists.

[00:08:46] This is the one timed-

[00:08:48] That is true.

[00:08:49] Yeah.

[00:08:49] Yeah, that is true.

[00:08:51] The show has finality.

[00:08:53] A showtime has been very,

[00:08:55] very sort of waffly about whether or not

[00:08:56] there is a future to the show.

[00:08:58] They're not renewing this show.

[00:08:59] But they're also not like,

[00:09:00] we're canceling it.

[00:09:01] No, but well I was talking with TV Mojo,

[00:09:05] Joe Dalian who's a great TV biz writer.

[00:09:08] A culture.

[00:09:09] And he's like,

[00:09:10] David, Friday before Labor Day is coming up.

[00:09:13] That's when you say that you canceled Rodies.

[00:09:16] Really?

[00:09:16] It's the Friday before Labor Day?

[00:09:18] Yes.

[00:09:18] Like some long weekend, like Friday afternoon.

[00:09:21] Oh, I get what you said.

[00:09:22] You bury the news.

[00:09:22] You just say like,

[00:09:23] oh, and we cancel Rodies.

[00:09:25] And then so like the 14 remaining Cameron Crow fans

[00:09:28] could be like, no, but like almost no one will care anyway.

[00:09:31] It'll just sort of get forgotten.

[00:09:33] Put it this way.

[00:09:34] This show is the least watched show on showtime.

[00:09:38] Is that true?

[00:09:39] But there's one show that's behind it.

[00:09:41] Except for one show and I want you to guess what it is.

[00:09:43] Oh boy, okay.

[00:09:44] Ray Donovan.

[00:09:45] No, no, Ray Donovan, very popular.

[00:09:47] Really?

[00:09:47] Oh yeah.

[00:09:47] Okay, so it's...

[00:09:48] That's the only other showtime show I have.

[00:09:50] Showtime lineup.

[00:09:51] Is it a comedy or a drama?

[00:09:52] I've never seen it because I would never want to subject myself.

[00:09:56] Put it this way.

[00:09:57] Yeah.

[00:09:57] And I was thinking about this as I was watching Rodies

[00:09:59] because I didn't like-

[00:10:00] It's not episodes, right?

[00:10:02] No, no.

[00:10:03] And wait, I think I've got it,

[00:10:04] but I want to see if Griffin gets it.

[00:10:05] Okay, yeah, but what were you going to say about it?

[00:10:07] Well, I didn't like Rodies.

[00:10:10] I thought it was quite bad.

[00:10:12] But as I was watching, I was thinking about another show

[00:10:15] that I liked more than Rodies,

[00:10:17] but also perhaps struggled to connect with audiences

[00:10:20] about the music industry

[00:10:22] that aired on Premium Cable this year called Vinyl.

[00:10:24] Oh.

[00:10:25] And I was thinking about one of the worst things about Vinyl

[00:10:27] was that there was a lot-

[00:10:28] The lack of dialogue I had was...

[00:10:29] Oh, no, no, no.

[00:10:30] Very true, very true.

[00:10:31] But there was a lot of time spent on the murder of Andrew Dice Clay.

[00:10:35] Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[00:10:37] And like, you know, it's funny that Vinyl maybe had too much plot.

[00:10:42] Rodies maybe had way not enough plot.

[00:10:46] But anyway, yeah, Dice.

[00:10:48] Dice is the show.

[00:10:49] Yeah, where is that going to be, I guess?

[00:10:50] Yeah, that's what I-

[00:10:51] Dice, which I did not watch.

[00:10:52] Nope.

[00:10:53] It was sort of a, wasn't it like a Marin-esque,

[00:10:56] you know, like they lock the gates but with Dice?

[00:10:58] Yes.

[00:10:59] Which everyone was waiting for.

[00:11:00] Yeah, and everyone was like,

[00:11:01] God, give me some like gritty realism comedy with Dice.

[00:11:04] Like, I want to see Andrew Dice Clay make an omelet.

[00:11:06] Have you noticed on Twitter how many people are now like tweeting

[00:11:10] Lock the Gates shit at us?

[00:11:12] Yes.

[00:11:12] In a way where like someone tweeted like very happy that Blank Check has,

[00:11:19] like, you know, leaned into making Lock the Gates their Hanong man.

[00:11:24] Yeah.

[00:11:24] Which is ignoring the fact that we stole it from another show.

[00:11:27] I know.

[00:11:27] I mean-

[00:11:28] That us parodying another show's catchphrase has become our catchphrase.

[00:11:31] We're doing the WTF catchphrase and it's become a comedy bang bang

[00:11:36] esque bit.

[00:11:37] So we've taken two other very wildly successful podcasts on our own

[00:11:42] moderately somewhat noticed podcast.

[00:11:44] We comedy bang banged WTF and made it into a Blank Check.

[00:11:50] Yeah, well we did.

[00:11:51] But this, I mean they ties into this show certainly.

[00:11:54] Dice?

[00:11:55] Mark Marin.

[00:11:57] Yeah.

[00:11:57] This show unlocks the gates.

[00:11:59] For a second.

[00:11:59] And Mary walks through them.

[00:12:00] Let's put it, let's put it in there.

[00:12:02] They don't lock the gates.

[00:12:03] He turns it around, walks out, they lock the gates again.

[00:12:05] They lock the gates behind them.

[00:12:06] This show locked the gates on dramatic storylines.

[00:12:11] Yeah.

[00:12:11] It didn't let him in.

[00:12:12] Well, no.

[00:12:12] Okay.

[00:12:13] It locked the gates on interesting things happening.

[00:12:15] So interesting thing that you said I'm now gonna immediately serve up a counterpoint

[00:12:20] and this will be the core of the rest of our episode?

[00:12:22] Oh no.

[00:12:23] I think the show is better than vinyl.

[00:12:26] Uh huh.

[00:12:27] Interesting.

[00:12:28] I don't.

[00:12:29] I just vinyl at least I was like kind of interested in what's going to happen.

[00:12:34] Chris's got a good mustache.

[00:12:35] Chris's got a good mustache.

[00:12:36] That was a great mustache.

[00:12:38] You know vinyl wasn't my favorite show.

[00:12:40] I also, I didn't dislike it and some people seem to dislike it more than I did.

[00:12:45] No I think I do.

[00:12:46] Rodi's.

[00:12:47] I don't, yeah.

[00:12:48] I obviously had a great time working on it and I don't think it was a bad show

[00:12:50] but I think the thing when you bring up the dice claim murder.

[00:12:54] Oh boy.

[00:12:55] I mean it's the last thing you want out of a show in the music industry is trying

[00:13:00] to solve the murder of Andrew Dice Clay.

[00:13:02] I think the downfall of that show is them putting too many things in the pot right?

[00:13:05] They put too many toppings on the pizza and you just want a nice cheese slice.

[00:13:09] Well right.

[00:13:09] The side of the show was so clean.

[00:13:10] You got pizza and then you had some like pepperoni which was kind of

[00:13:13] Ollie doing uh doing martial arts.

[00:13:16] Right that's fine.

[00:13:16] And then you have mushrooms which is the cocaine and you're like oh this is

[00:13:19] getting a little wet but then there's like pineapple that's Andrew Dice Clay's busted head.

[00:13:24] Yeah.

[00:13:25] His skull busted open.

[00:13:27] And then like four different cheeses but one of them's Gruyere

[00:13:29] and you're like I don't know I think Gruyere is not great on pizza like I like it on its own.

[00:13:33] Rody's is like they rolled out the dough and then they just left.

[00:13:37] And then it sort of sat in the sun so it didn't cook exactly but it's sort of crisp a little bit.

[00:13:42] Okay I disagree with you.

[00:13:44] And then someone came back like showtime and was like Jesus like at least put butter on

[00:13:48] I don't know like sprayed some oil on it.

[00:13:50] Okay I'm good I like your metaphor.

[00:13:53] I think vinyl is definitely a pizza with too many toppings right when the core pizza itself

[00:13:58] had a lot going for it and there's still good bites in there but sometimes you're like just too

[00:14:01] much too much too much.

[00:14:03] You know and it's like do you want to take the time to pick the pineapple off of it like that stuff right?

[00:14:07] Also they didn't give me enough dialogue.

[00:14:09] I think I think that Rody's is like a flatbread.

[00:14:13] Yeah I think they did put cheese flatbread right I think they did put cheese and tomato on it.

[00:14:17] No see I'll disagree with you they forgot I think there's some cheese and tamade on the flatbread

[00:14:21] but I think it is a flatbread no no here's what it is it's like they've got this like big

[00:14:25] ball of mozzarella on the side like fresh like a called garguglino a bufala musu

[00:14:31] gujino mozzarella right you're like oh I can't wait to see them put I can't wait to eat that

[00:14:35] and then they forgot to put it on it's just sitting over there okay Lane would you like to step

[00:14:41] into the arena and throw out your own this is great I'm enjoying this yeah I didn't think I was

[00:14:46] gonna have so much fun recording this episode but this is gonna be a best episode ever.

[00:14:49] Lane if you had to compare vinyl and Rody's to pizzas how would you describe them?

[00:14:55] Well first of all neither show has enough of you obviously.

[00:14:58] Very true yeah you weren't good on Rody's. I would have been good I did audition.

[00:15:02] Did you audition? I audition can you guess which character I auditioned apply?

[00:15:05] Milo. Yeah no no no actually no. No did you audition for you know West?

[00:15:11] West I auditioned for yeah but but I played him much more like Milo like when I watched the

[00:15:16] show I was like oh that's what they wanted I played him real sad Sacky.

[00:15:20] Well I guess it was like Milo yeah and then they had Milo but then they like

[00:15:24] forget the Milo's on the show like pretty fast. But he was great he was really one of

[00:15:28] the highlights of the show. I like the actor I don't know him who is he? Peter Cambor?

[00:15:33] There is a terrible TBS show from a few years back called Wedding Band. Oh yeah!

[00:15:38] Which he was in playing I believe a bass player also. Wow!

[00:15:41] And I would watch that every night every Saturday night on TBS and it's not a good show but it

[00:15:47] was enjoyable to me. Was that Brian Austin Green? Yes. Oh wow! He was also on that show Notes

[00:15:51] From the Underbelly which was like one of the many pregnancy shows. Oh yeah yeah. There was

[00:15:56] like this rash in the mid-2000s where every network is like we need a show about how hard

[00:16:00] it is and or easy it is to get pregnant. It was in The Motherhood right? Yeah it was

[00:16:04] in The Motherhood and Jessica Sinclair right there. And then there was like a drama? Yes

[00:16:08] And then there was a drama that was set at like a fertility clinic called like Inconceivable with like

[00:16:14] Ming Na. I can't believe that didn't succeed that sounds unbelievable. And it was cancelled after

[00:16:18] like 20 minutes like you know I mean CBS just like aired I don't know a black screen

[00:16:25] rather than complete the episode. It had like Ming Na and like Omar I was like how when you

[00:16:30] see this you're like we're 80 pilot scripts they were like 20 pilot you know how did this

[00:16:35] make it all the way up the chain? Yeah. And then they're immediately like whoa wait a second no!

[00:16:41] Anyway Inconceivable I think it was called Inconceivable. I mean that's an amazing name.

[00:16:45] Yeah that's a perfect title for that show. Yes no I was very surprised by how little I appeared

[00:16:52] in Roadies because there was a part of me that kept on being like I don't think I

[00:16:57] worked on this but I feel like I could show up at any moment. I mean that was my main

[00:17:00] problem with vinyl and just kept waiting for you to show back up. I know it's

[00:17:02] some here yeah no I would watch episodes and be like pretty sure I worked on this

[00:17:07] it was the opposite of Roadies. I was like I have a distinct memory of being on set

[00:17:10] yet I'm not in this episode. I had a great time working on vinyl.

[00:17:14] I just think what I like about Roadies is... Omar Epps wasn't in it. Ming Na, Angie Harmon,

[00:17:21] Jonathan Cake. Alright I'm done talking about a great cast. It aired two episodes

[00:17:25] 10 are unaired and will never be seen. Wow even in this Hulu era? Yeah maybe

[00:17:31] Hulu's got it for all you know. Hulu has all those shows. Yeah and I know like Hulu has done

[00:17:35] some of that where like a show gets canceled and they'll be like well the... You can watch the last

[00:17:39] five on Hulu. The remaining five episodes of Wicked City or a Hulu original now.

[00:17:44] Self-show. That show was disgusting. Yeah? That show was disgusting. Was it wicked?

[00:17:50] I guess it thought it was. Yeah I mean yeah that show was gross. Was that Ed Westwick

[00:17:54] and uh and uh Helena Christensen? Yeah Ed Westwick uh Erica Christensen. Erica Christensen.

[00:18:00] Ed Westwick is a serial killer. Erica is his victim who becomes his like uh minion.

[00:18:06] A lot of sex but like ABC so you know. Yeah so real real... Graphic. Wicked.

[00:18:14] This episode is ostensibly about Roadies. We seem to be avoiding talking about it.

[00:18:19] Yeah well okay. But here's what I like about Roadies and here's the thing with

[00:18:24] Roadies. I'll give it a gentleman's sex. Oh I'll give it a gentleman's minus eight.

[00:18:28] This is the classic X-Men apocalypse debate. I think I'd also give it a gentleman's six.

[00:18:33] Hey this is bad. I should have someone on my side. Ben! Ben! Ben! Ben! Introduce producer Ben. Oh my

[00:18:40] god. Yeah yeah introduce him. Producer Ben, the Ben Deucer, the poet laureate, the ha- Mr.

[00:18:45] Hositive, producer Ben, the tiebreaker, uh the birthday Benny, uh our world's finest film critic.

[00:18:54] I think we were forgetting one that we introduced a couple episodes back. It was White Hot Benny.

[00:18:58] Oh yes. White Hot Benny. Yes uh he's not Professor Crispy, he is the fuck master

[00:19:03] and he's graduated to certain titles over the course of different miniseries such as

[00:19:07] producer Ben Kenobi, Kylo Ben, Ben Knight Shyamalan, Ben Sate and of course Benny Lane.

[00:19:13] Of course the new Benny Lane. Ben Hosley is here with us. I feel like in a future

[00:19:17] episode we're not going to know what his name is. I think. His actual name? Like Benny Lane.

[00:19:21] Oh yeah. I think, I feel like in next week's episode we hadn't actually decided yet.

[00:19:25] Yes. We've been courting out more. Our timelines all over the fucking place. All over the place.

[00:19:28] But anyway, Benny Lane you said you had some names. I had a couple. I want to hear.

[00:19:31] Lane's got a couple he wants to pitch. Lane, you know, friend of the show, he does his homework.

[00:19:35] He- That's so nice. I actually, I pitched Lane an idea for uh his next album.

[00:19:42] I was telling him that they should call it U2, like U2 question mark.

[00:19:47] And I like it. Like U2? Yeah. Exactly. Like the spy points?

[00:19:51] Mm-hmm. Great. That's, yeah that's a good, that's a good idea. Okay, uh Lane, would you like to pay back?

[00:19:58] Well, so you gotta be a Ben for that great gift. An avid fan of Rodey is probably to get some of these.

[00:20:02] Oh, these are Rodey specific. These are Rodey specific. Oh boy, you're talking to the,

[00:20:06] I mean I probably by default now the world's biggest Rodey specific. Yeah, I think the two

[00:20:09] of us are. Uh the state and house Bend. Yep, perfect. Very good. Really excellent.

[00:20:15] Everyone would get it too. Yeah. Bennerd Skinnerd. Oh, that did actually, yeah. Yep.

[00:20:21] Producer Ben, but in parentheses like a music producer? Sure, right just to make that clear.

[00:20:27] And then my favorite, uh, Emma Ben-Pootz. Yeah! Oh, yeah. Which I would like,

[00:20:32] I felt like you had already come up with Griffin. No, I think I had. Okay, good. Yeah, no, Emma

[00:20:37] Ben-Pootz is good. Hey, uh Lane, I'd like to give you a gift. Uh oh. A 45 comedy point.

[00:20:42] Man, I've been waiting for this. Uh, Ben, uh you did not like Rodey's.

[00:20:49] Oh so bad. Yeah, all right, so Ben's with me. I'm on your side 100%. We're two against two on this,

[00:20:54] okay? What I like about the show is that it is so basic. It's so basic. So basic,

[00:21:00] which is something I already said about, uh, we bought a zoo in a complimentary way.

[00:21:05] I like that this show is just kind of like some fucking TV show. Do you know what I'm

[00:21:10] saying? Like it doesn't feel like important in a time where like, and I mean that in like a

[00:21:16] worth hour time. But I love that. That's the thing. That's it. Yeah, I kind of had the same feeling.

[00:21:21] TV is too important now. I don't disagree with that. I know what you guys need. I like that it's

[00:21:26] like just some trouble. I'll take that on a show that's 40 minutes long or 22 minutes long.

[00:21:30] It is long. Every episode is long. 60 minutes long with like multiple offensive story lines.

[00:21:35] They're like come out of nowhere and you're like whoa, what is this? Yes, okay, yes.

[00:21:38] I agree with you 100%. There are multiple story lines across the season of this show that are

[00:21:41] offensive, but there are also multiple story lines that are charming. Nope. I just don't get, it's like

[00:21:50] it's supposed to be a modern portrayal of the music industry and it's so not. It's like a

[00:21:55] fucking relic of like 20, 30 years ago. Yeah, I mean the show gets really tone deaf any time

[00:22:01] Camero tries to comment on the music industry today. Yeah, yeah, like it's painful. So I mean

[00:22:09] this is a question I asked you, I think, and Ben in your group text. I can't remember. I think we

[00:22:14] were talking about maybe last week when we were recording. I just said like what is this show

[00:22:18] about? Like and I don't mean like obviously it's about a man over some roadies working

[00:22:22] with her band and every week they're in a new show but I mean like what's the show about?

[00:22:26] Like just basic pitch like what's it about? What's it trying to tell us? Can I tell you?

[00:22:30] Go ahead. The show is about the sky. If only it was about the sky. I feel like the show is kind

[00:22:37] of about like man rock and roll has really changed. Yeah. And like that's it. Yeah, man.

[00:22:46] Things used to be a little different. I see like I would now we've got cell phones.

[00:22:51] I don't know. I don't know just putting that out there anyway. That's 10 episodes. That's

[00:22:55] good, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's like I mean but like I kind of enjoyed that. Like I think my

[00:23:00] problem with vinyl besides not enough griffin as we've established is that it was like I wanted

[00:23:06] to watch like a show about like 70s punk like happening and like there's that book Please Kill

[00:23:11] Me that's about punk that's amazing. It's like great if that had been a TV show I would

[00:23:15] have watched the shit out of that. Yeah. And like for me like this was like more at least

[00:23:20] music based and hit my like. Yes. Great. I'm watching a show about the thing I like. This

[00:23:25] is an argument I can get on board. Yes. So I like I get that I like that Rodies is like just about

[00:23:31] the music and the people who work right in that way. Music is boring largely that it's

[00:23:36] boring. And so it sort of makes sense that the show that reflects that by being pretty

[00:23:40] boring. Agreed. I think a stronger take. I think I'm going to vomit as I say this.

[00:23:48] I've been small room. I'm in bombing this whole time at the other stuff you were saying so I

[00:23:53] can't even wait. My eyeballs are going to wait. Should I get the bucket? Yeah. Yeah. All right.

[00:23:57] Hold on. Okay. We're holding for Ben to get the buck. We're holding for Ben to get

[00:24:03] the bucket. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Let me just drag this tin bucket over across on this table

[00:24:09] here. Look forward to this bit making sense two weeks from now guys. All right anyway

[00:24:17] with the bucket that's a new that's a new blank check item. We've added that item. Check out.

[00:24:22] Blank check store for branded buckets. And also of course in our vomiting into when Griffin says

[00:24:29] something in our blank check mobile tap tap game. Yes. Oh God. You can now buy the bucket

[00:24:34] for 200 coins. The bucket is available today and of course 200 coins will only cost you 75 gems.

[00:24:41] I wish I really wish we had one of those pyramid scheme like and that it was the worst

[00:24:46] it was like not good. You know like we put no effort into it. We're just like I don't know just get

[00:24:50] the jewel put our faces on it. Griffin and David Blitz you know you could do for a bejeweled

[00:24:59] for a bejeweled style game is each each little emblem is just a small print of one of Ben's

[00:25:04] nicknames. Yes. And you have to match up the nickname. I thought it would just be like

[00:25:08] falling like comedy points and like each one yeah different numbers that could be good too.

[00:25:12] These are great endorsement opportunities if anyone is listening and wants to design

[00:25:16] us a bejeweled style game. Yeah we're ready to sell out baby with serious like price point.

[00:25:21] Like I mean serious like gems coins got to buy pyramids buckets everything. Only one request.

[00:25:28] What it's gotta be big. It's gotta be big. Games gotta be big games gotta be big.

[00:25:35] All right. I like that this show is about the music and about the people who work in music

[00:25:39] which I think was where vinyl lost its way. I think when vinyl worked it was when it was

[00:25:43] focused on that and when it became about the other stuff it was just like that's not why I'm

[00:25:46] tuning into this show. I like that Roddy stays focused on that enough that I'm able to sort of

[00:25:51] forgive it in in the in the macro I forgive it for the things that drove me crazy while I was

[00:25:58] watching it because the totality of the series is what I wanted out of this series

[00:26:02] and serve just like you know like shoot low hit your target you know but I do think there's

[00:26:09] something to like it the show is sort of trying to be this like when you ask what's about it's about

[00:26:14] these people who don't like fit in right like it's all these people who are like out of time out of

[00:26:18] place I guess so and have to be part of like this traveling circus fucking thing right it's sort

[00:26:23] of like a cheers type thing where it's like everyone who comes to this bar is inherently

[00:26:27] broken because why else would they come to this bar every day and that's the unifying

[00:26:30] thing between all the characters and the same thing with Roddy's it's like what would make

[00:26:33] someone want to commit themselves to this kind of life which is so detached and disconnected

[00:26:38] from a sort of normal daily human emotional existence and relationships and all of that right

[00:26:43] yeah there is the problem that Cameron Crowe clearly is still in love with how music existed in the

[00:26:47] 1970s in the 60s and what it meant to people and even the 80s to a lesser degree and even the 90s

[00:26:51] to a lesser degree and has no such connection to the music of today right and is trying really

[00:26:56] hard to like explain that and the show is obviously trying to represent this sort of like

[00:27:01] contrast between what it used to be to be a roadie what the music industry used to be

[00:27:04] how it's dying the reg character all of this losing me I do think what's the bad thing you

[00:27:09] want to say I do think in a way the show would be more interesting if it was about them working

[00:27:14] on a band they didn't care about that might be interesting yeah because it's hard to buy

[00:27:18] that they care about the fucking state and house band anyway yes because the state and

[00:27:22] house band seems stupid right they wrote a song called Jeanine yeah but like so open hearted

[00:27:28] that he's never gonna make a show about people about cynical you know people we live in a

[00:27:32] cynical world yes and we work in a business of tough competitors right but but there's the

[00:27:37] thing of like he wants to have the moment where the people stand in the back and they're like

[00:27:40] wow you know music really can change everything and it's like it would have had to be a more

[00:27:46] ambitious narrative of a bunch of people who have lost the way finding a way to love music again

[00:27:50] but that also would have been a season where for most of the season was like fuck this

[00:27:53] it's dead it's dead it's dead which obviously yeah it would also have to be a show in

[00:27:56] which you see both like the bad band and then whatever good band they end up liking

[00:28:01] yeah I don't know there should have been like one roadie who hated the band and then they did

[00:28:06] like one killer show at the end of the tour and he was like no all right guys I came around you know

[00:28:11] yeah why didn't well and then no one no one came to any sort of conclusion at the end of the series

[00:28:16] really character I guess yeah is the cynic who has turned yeah all it takes is a yeah drugs

[00:28:23] and rape yeah yeah but there is this thing of like

[00:28:30] so I read this interview where where it was in AV club feature where they like talk to

[00:28:35] work for that place I was pointing to the wall fair enough the wall works for the AV clubs

[00:28:40] I was pointing to David um I read this AV club feature where they uh talked to a bunch of real

[00:28:46] life roadies and had them like look at the first two episodes I'm like so like well what do you

[00:28:50] think about this and they're like well first of all that prayer circle bullshit would never

[00:28:53] happen no it's so earnest and it's such a plot point it becomes like an emotional fulcrum

[00:28:58] of the show are we gonna do the prayer circle how are we gonna do it can you step up to the play

[00:29:01] they're grown-ups yeah I swear to god I know that they're you know you know kind of arrested

[00:29:06] development types yeah in a certain sense you know they're a little you know childish

[00:29:11] sometime but like they wouldn't need to do the fucking what are they babies like

[00:29:15] they come on man yes and I think the one like era where you could sell that is in the 70s

[00:29:20] where it's like you know or the 60s when there were still the vestiges of like the free love kind

[00:29:24] of thing and you could be like well once on this spiritual plane but in this cynical world of

[00:29:29] fierce competitors that we live in it doesn't really ring true at all cynical well I have a

[00:29:33] minor counterpoint okay which almost works which is that earlier this year I was dating a girl who

[00:29:40] played for uh played guitar for a pop singer and was like huge big tour and like blah blah

[00:29:46] and so I never I didn't interact with the roadies that much but it did know that the band like kind

[00:29:51] of had a together like moment before they went on every time all right and I was not allowed into

[00:29:56] that as the boyfriend yeah I don't know if it was like I don't know if that was like a prayer

[00:30:00] circle over it's just like hey don't suck up there you know I haven't I have an idea uh why

[00:30:05] isn't this set on Taylor Swift's tour or something like why don't you show that juxtaposition

[00:30:10] between like kind of old rock and roll types and like an industry that's definitely changed I think

[00:30:15] that's a better show and I think the best version of this show would take place in 1983 well yeah I mean

[00:30:21] that's the problem where they feel like a lot of crow's stuff is he's looking back and I think

[00:30:25] there's a neither here nor there factor to the show where it's like he wants to make a show about

[00:30:30] how much people love music and how much music can bring people together but also wants to make a

[00:30:34] show about a culture that is dying if not already dead and so he kind of can't have it both ways

[00:30:39] because it's like you have a show where everyone's affected by the music but they're constantly

[00:30:43] talking about how the music is dead and it's like it's kind of one or the other like Stan House is like

[00:30:48] presented as being a very big very influential band that is critically beloved but also like

[00:30:53] commercially successful has been around for a while has diehard fans and can just be on like a

[00:30:57] perpetual tour around the country right like quasi profitable which is pretty hard to pull

[00:31:03] off at that level they're making a living being musicians obviously everyone the crew is making

[00:31:08] a living yeah you know I mean it's like it's not I mean like there's either like like you said go for

[00:31:12] like the Taylor Swift type thing sure or really like you take like a band who's just like just made

[00:31:18] it and they're like our age yeah taking along yeah right you know some fill type and some kids

[00:31:24] would need to see the band and hear their music right which is actively avoid in this they

[00:31:29] avoid it they don't show us the band it's kind of like the 30 rock trick where it's like you

[00:31:32] know what it's not gonna seem good if you see it I don't think we even meet a member until

[00:31:37] episode three and we're like no we see I swear we see a member at episode one you see the because

[00:31:42] you see that finger kiss the guy roll in episode one right yeah like rolls down the window and he's

[00:31:47] like we're playing Jeanine or whatever but like barely yeah it's like yeah they give it to us late

[00:31:52] and in small doses and they're very peripheral characters and the fan members are probably

[00:31:57] the least interesting characters on the show whenever they get pulled into the forefront

[00:32:00] and their storylines are the least right and like even the way that everyone else talks about

[00:32:05] the Taylor Swift tour on the show in space yeah which Cameron come on like you just did

[00:32:12] your fucking like militarization of space movie and you're still on this space kick so it is about

[00:32:18] this guy it is about this guy it is insane that like five comedy points it is insane that like

[00:32:23] right after a low he made a movie where you still he made a show where it's like okay get back

[00:32:28] into safe space Cameron music concerts on the road nothing weird and he's like okay here's

[00:32:33] puna and a space store like he did like two of the fucking hits from aloha here's a Hawaiian guy

[00:32:40] who's in touch with the spirits and here's a concert tour in space but it does have kind of his greatest

[00:32:45] hits like all over too because basically the skinnered episode is almost famous yes essentially

[00:32:50] you know yeah there's like a lot of like callbacks to his career yeah yeah yeah it's just a little

[00:32:55] bit of a greatest hits tour I guess we talked about in our vanilla sky episode this is obviously

[00:33:00] going to be like a pretty free for an episode because we're not going to go through every fucking

[00:33:04] episode what's the name of that movie a vanilla sky thank you yeah um any any comedy points for that

[00:33:09] no uh 45 okay wait a second stop trolling for lane is really lanes this is a first try

[00:33:15] you guys got any uh you guys got any comedy points I think that's what those kids talk about right

[00:33:18] now those thirst traps right yeah lane's a human comedy point thirst I've got 95 just for the

[00:33:23] record yeah well well I'll say this when I established comedy points as as a bit with uh

[00:33:29] originators co-originators uh sam regal 100 kalini and and pat may yep one of the rules was

[00:33:36] and I'll say this to you lane uh if you keep track of how many comedy points you have

[00:33:40] you lose all comedy points so lane you unfortunately now have zero comedy points

[00:33:44] but then I know that I have zero comedy points then do I just I just keep losing you better

[00:33:49] start thinking about it better start forgetting that's the thing you gotta just be in the moment

[00:33:52] it's all I think about um uh yeah no we're not gonna go through no we're not gonna go through

[00:33:58] like episode by episode we'll hit certain I'm gonna set up the show okay do it right now but what was

[00:34:02] the thing I was gonna say right before I was getting to a really profound point where are you

[00:34:06] vanilla sky oh yes yes yes I am I'm poking the small of David's hands right now it looks weird

[00:34:13] yeah I'm poking the flesh between his thumb and his pointer finger uh we Richard Lawson said

[00:34:19] in our uh vanilla sky episode yes that he feels like that was Cameron Crowe trying to evolve into

[00:34:25] this realm of if not magical realism more genre elements able to get sort of more fantastical

[00:34:30] and less literal in his writing right right and that that bombed and it was like if that had

[00:34:34] worked what would have happened like could he have transitioned because now you get into the

[00:34:38] state where it's like Cameron Crowe's neither here nor there he's trying to replay the hits

[00:34:42] he used to do they don't sound as good anymore right no and he can't really figure out what

[00:34:46] the next step to go on to his tried everything now but there's a lot of that in roadies where it

[00:34:50] like you feel him trying to get less literal where it's like the fucking the david's paid sex show is

[00:34:56] very bizarre Puna is very bizarre the the tailors of space tour is very bizarre and a show that's

[00:35:01] otherwise like very grounded and I think that's where it works best as when it's just like them

[00:35:06] hanging out and kind of shooting the shit agree the show functions best as a hangout show

[00:35:10] now it's not a show that I would want to watch but it at least functions I would watch a 22

[00:35:15] minute version of it maybe interesting yeah okay you want to run through the season a little bit

[00:35:22] the basic premise is there is a band called the state and house band and they have a road

[00:35:27] crew hold on one second pow Griffin's new thing is drinking tea and yelling pow sorry I just

[00:35:36] shit my pants so there's a band they have a road crew they're on tour Luke Wilson plays bill

[00:35:43] the great Luke Wilson uh-huh the tour manager of the state and house band and Carla Gugino

[00:35:50] the great Carla Gugina agreed I worked with her and I could still never remember how to pronounce

[00:35:54] her name I think it's Gugina she's the best I love her she's a big old ball mozzarella

[00:36:00] she plays Shelley I'm gonna have to look for their name Shelley the production manager you know

[00:36:04] that's on her resume right special skills all about accents big old ball of mozzarella was

[00:36:08] was a image in poots yep the great image of the great image or at least the one day will be great

[00:36:15] I don't know like I feel like there's a there's an Excalibur waiting for her she does in the words

[00:36:20] of Emma Stone and in Aloha I'm trying to tie it all back I'm trying to bring every fucking Crow

[00:36:26] project back in this one episode image in put says Kellyanne Mason who's the lighting girl

[00:36:30] lighting rigor yes rafes ball the great rafes I like great so good in that he is he's the

[00:36:36] best part of the show son of Tim as as reg whitehead who's like the the the the suit he's basically

[00:36:43] fits from agents of shield he's also another role I would have played 10 years oh yeah of course

[00:36:50] I audition for fifth oh of course yeah um also uh he is clearly playing the local hero character

[00:36:56] which is why they keep on referencing that movie fucking 50 000 times over the course of the

[00:36:59] year yeah all right yeah yeah all right also while we're on references how many times does

[00:37:03] someone say oh you look good especially to Luke Wilson a lot like 50 times a lot bill you look good

[00:37:10] yeah it is what it is uh okay other main characters um Keisha Castle Hughes the lovely Keisha Keisha

[00:37:19] Castle Hughes yes as Donna Mancini a character that doesn't exist she's the soundboard girl

[00:37:24] she's in scenes I think she's good in it she's a totally good presence she brings a lot of

[00:37:30] charm to the three lines she has doesn't really do that's what I'll say she have a plotline in the

[00:37:34] entire they fight her and her wife and yeah they have a baby her wife is pregnant and she knows

[00:37:41] secrets she's able to infer what people aren't saying sometimes correctly sometimes incorrect so can

[00:37:46] everyone on the show basically but but I'll say this like I was kind of really taken

[00:37:51] back by how strong a performance was a because we haven't seen her in a while and b because

[00:37:54] she's like spinning nothing into like she is I'm not she's got some good not into gold but into at

[00:37:59] least like I was trying to use the straw into gold metaphor but like the idea of like she's given

[00:38:05] nothing to do and she actually is like a pretty compelling presence on the show Peter Cambor

[00:38:10] yes Milo yeah also great also yeah I think but nothing to do but cute it's got some good

[00:38:16] moments he's more colson baker as Wes Mason also known as machine gun Kelly also known as

[00:38:23] MGK guitars people and coffee right the role I additional for yeah machine gun Kelly who I had

[00:38:30] only ever seen in Beyond the Lights right which he was which he's quite good in yep but he's playing

[00:38:37] a you know a trash man he's playing a trash man and I didn't know that he could not not play

[00:38:43] a trash man yeah so good for him yeah I think he's very good in this and Ron White and we were

[00:38:48] discussing this before yes I believe he has 15 minutes total screen time in the entire season

[00:38:55] I go 25 I don't think so as Phil the king of the road who is I guess that he's in charge I don't

[00:39:03] know he's like their mentor is the old hand he's the old hand and he's sort of in charge he has a

[00:39:07] pistol yep he's murdered people he's committed many crimes yeah he is fired at the end of the

[00:39:13] first episode he shows up for him bezeling in the wake of hurricane Katrina yep and then he

[00:39:18] shows up back at the end of the seventh he's in the eighth episode where he tells a story and

[00:39:21] he's not really in it he's in the ninth episode then he perishes oh right spoilers yeah on the

[00:39:28] second and then in the tenth episode Ron White plays this guy as an embalmed version of himself

[00:39:34] taxidermy standing with his arms open so that the rest of the cast can hug him there are two

[00:39:39] earlier moments in other episodes where he skips in through a bad connection from space

[00:39:43] that's correct yes just fyi i just clearly explain this space there is a rival

[00:39:48] yeah we're not kidding that is losing crew members that is called the planet swift tour and it's not

[00:39:54] like a joking title it's literally they're trying to colonize a new planet of taylor swift fans

[00:40:00] it's a taylor swift tour that happens in fucking space yeah you see I guess it feels like I feel

[00:40:07] like I was talking about this with aloha some or some or yeah yeah like john krasinski's character

[00:40:12] talking through subtitles right I feel like camera call just be like that's really funny you know

[00:40:17] like he'll think is that what if they lose swiss war was literally in space which is like that'd be

[00:40:21] funny right the dead sex thing has to be like him thinking this is hilarious yeah he's like flicking

[00:40:26] through the channels he's like what's next like a zombie sex soap opera ha put it in rodies written

[00:40:32] by and sorry noted sexual dramatic actor david spade he's also the writer of the show they set

[00:40:41] first of all they keep on saying like David spade looks good yeah everyone looks good on the show

[00:40:45] everyone looks good this is a show people looking good yeah we'll get to dead sex but anyway so that's

[00:40:50] the main cast you also got you got finesse Mitchell bouncing around wait I want to get back to planet

[00:40:54] swift oh yeah sure like what is like let's just what are the logistics of this is she playing

[00:40:59] how do you go to the moon and play a tour you have to get on a space shuttle like right how do

[00:41:04] you get there and how does the people get how did the audience and it's like Phil gets fired as earth

[00:41:09] colonized the moon in this like future like Phil gets fired and and within like three days is working

[00:41:17] on the planet swim by the end of the episode right he's already on that tour right but it's

[00:41:21] like wouldn't you have to go through training and like medical tasks and like I know he's not an

[00:41:25] astronaut but even when people are talking about space acts and virgin galactic and whatever

[00:41:30] part of the thing is you have to do all this due diligence even if you want to cost like

[00:41:34] $80,000 or something like the idea that they're just live streaming the shows from space

[00:41:38] are they performing for space stations or she's doing a fucking alien she on the international

[00:41:42] space station that is what I was thinking about she build her own spaceship possible you know what

[00:41:49] i'd watch that show too me too planet swift planet swift anyway finesse Mitchell's hanging out

[00:41:53] can I just add something really quick anything but thank you say benny thing great dot dot dot

[00:41:58] um so I feel like this part is making me think especially it's like his commentary on sort of

[00:42:05] like the bigger acts of like contemporary music Beyonce Taylor Swift and he's saying that the bebes

[00:42:11] they're you know they're all about costumes and lighting and rather than about the music yeah

[00:42:16] you know what though man I kind of like that there's these giant stadium acts and they're

[00:42:22] they're making it worth the money you pay to see them I do too I don't need to necessarily see like

[00:42:28] five old guys stand around playing music necessarily that's not as entertaining as maybe a

[00:42:33] Beyonce show but it is the Cameron Crow Cameron Crow yes set it on record that's very clear I want

[00:42:39] to get that on record fuck Cameron Crow for this bullshit Cameron no I like that yeah yeah I guess

[00:42:45] gentlemen six gentlemen's minus 50 uh I I agree with you Ben I mean there's that like argument

[00:42:52] when people complain about like you know I can't believe this movie costs this much money

[00:42:57] they kind of argument it's like your ticket costs the same way either way like wouldn't

[00:43:00] you rather see the movie with more money behind it I'm not buying wasting money but it's like what's

[00:43:03] the problem with like trying to put on that much of a show especially when concerts are this expensive

[00:43:07] yeah uh he's obviously trying to comment on that but it's like it's a little too crazy to throw

[00:43:13] the space thing in and never really explain the logistics of it and I also agree that the

[00:43:18] show could have kind of worked if it was like them on the road with a massive Taylor Swift

[00:43:21] act and it's like we used to be the people for bands like this and now this is all that's left

[00:43:26] sorry I was yawning it wasn't it you yeah I was just tired they can still love the music but

[00:43:30] have it be like so much more commercialized and you know corporatized and whatever that it's a

[00:43:35] little disconnected uh finesse Mitchell plays a financial manager who appears in two episodes

[00:43:40] is he just in two I feel like he's in three maybe no he's in a few there's a bunch where he's

[00:43:44] not in them at all he's not a credited main cast but he's like a guest star and not even like

[00:43:49] a single bill guest star yet he made the bus ads do you remember in New York they had those

[00:43:53] buses that were you know why he was wrapped in rotis because they the only black character on the

[00:43:57] yep and they were like look diversity and it's like oh way way way down on the coast yeah they've

[00:44:02] got a black recurring actor that kisha castle Hughes who is at least my or part Maori yeah yeah um

[00:44:10] your louise guzman was in three episodes shows up occasionally is the bus driver gooch

[00:44:16] he has one episode I feel like where he gets to do stuff which is this is an ad

[00:44:19] episode yeah also they don't bring them in for the finale no which no seems like an oversight

[00:44:25] maybe his quote was high and then you got well the finale we needed eight performances by

[00:44:30] fucking jackson brown or whatever the head wasn't jackson brown yeah yeah uh you got puna two uh

[00:44:37] yeah you got puna you got I mean you got the band I mean they're played by like a bunch of guys

[00:44:41] I don't know but these yes I mean that you know you got this lady joy Williams plays Jeanine

[00:44:48] Janine the famous Janine who is inspiration for the hit song Janine and has a plot line in which

[00:44:54] expose all the women on the main cast are nice but a lot of the like sort of women in the sort of

[00:44:59] yes outer uh circle the guest star women are conniving yeah also almost everyone in the other

[00:45:06] circle is yeah that's true I mean kind I mean yeah I do feel like camera crows like all the

[00:45:11] main characters what's their thing gonna be they're gonna be nice yeah what else I don't know

[00:45:18] and so it's like every eight weeks someone has to come in and kind of be a dick just for

[00:45:22] something but cartoonishly dick yeah like the like behave in a way that makes no sense just to have

[00:45:28] a little bit of story a little bit of tension also gets to like the we bought a zoo thing of like

[00:45:32] some people are in like a Cameron Crow dramedy and some people are playing to like the rafters

[00:45:36] like you know you have like rain wilson's performance which is the worst episode of this

[00:45:39] series no matter like it's unquestionable aren't yes that's the worst character that's

[00:45:44] the worst plot line that's the worst episode and he's playing it so fucking big yeah well

[00:45:50] rain wilson's a bad bad actor he can be very good yeah he can you need to direct him when he

[00:45:56] good the office I think the good season of the office except when he went too big right the good

[00:46:01] season of the office yeah what else we got uh I thought he was very good and super

[00:46:06] yes I like super a lot he's great and almost famous in his yes

[00:46:10] line I think no no he's terrible to hold this great galaxy quest galaxy quest straight in I mean

[00:46:18] I love galaxy quest I love everyone comes away from that movie talking about rain wilson's performance

[00:46:23] yeah everyone after seeing galaxy quest want to make it rain but you remember Juno when it's like

[00:46:27] a thousand coming in place for that I'm a big point I'm a big fan of Juno I can do that but that

[00:46:33] first scene of Juno almost derails really like a lot of people I feel like just get off the

[00:46:37] train there and they can't get back on yeah you I feel like you have to you have to you have to

[00:46:43] rain a man yeah he's a wild horse that you gotta I didn't even mean that it's true but what was that

[00:46:49] show he was on where he's like I'm a jerk self crimes though detective backstrom yeah yeah I think

[00:46:56] if you let rain wilson do what he finds funny it's it's like it's weird it's catastrophic we

[00:47:02] are all members of soul pancake though that is true I just want to rip on his weird but I

[00:47:06] thought he was excellent super where it's clearly James Gunn knew exactly what I want to

[00:47:09] have him very focused I think when he was good on the office he was great and when he was bad

[00:47:13] the show like crumbled I agree because he would get way too big and all reality would like disappear

[00:47:18] yeah he was the weapon they had and I think they they used him too much especially post corral

[00:47:23] like when they leaned on him way too much it was a nightmare right uh and he was good in

[00:47:27] hessure too I don't know if you saw hessure I didn't I did yeah he was good in that too

[00:47:30] it was bad on the rocker didn't see it yeah um but but yes I mean it's called roadies it's called

[00:47:36] roadies a catastrophic decision to hire him to play this character a character that was already

[00:47:42] catastrophically written yeah I mean I don't know if we can entirely blame rainy for that one

[00:47:47] because it is a bad character I think he made it worse yeah he did no he did I think he made

[00:47:51] it so just as the way that the great what's her name which one TC 14 Lindsay Duncan the

[00:47:58] great Lindsay Duncan did as much as she could with that awful critic character in birdman

[00:48:03] made it maybe a little better than it could have been correct you know maybe rain wilson plays

[00:48:07] that character maybe that's a weirder scene this is an excellent point that character is horribly

[00:48:11] written in birdman right Lindsay Duncan actually so well across the line that you almost believe

[00:48:17] that she's an actual human being despite everything she's saying being like clearly the prop up of like

[00:48:22] you know a filmmaker just being angry and thinking that all critics are like

[00:48:25] sole associates right right rain wilson like fucking takes a balloon they give him and then

[00:48:30] just adds more and more air into it like he blows it up so much okay here's a thing here's a general

[00:48:37] lesson and we've now like come across this a couple of times here's general listen don't watch roadies

[00:48:41] go ahead David gentleman six a gentleman say you said I just thought it'd be funny to say

[00:48:47] yeah pal um a lesson I think we have learned time and time again and it's come up even

[00:48:53] a number of times on this very show hey filmmakers don't make characters that are critics who hate

[00:49:01] everything and get off on hating everything especially because your last movie didn't it wasn't

[00:49:07] well received especially bad a couple bad reviews recently never fucking works lady in the water

[00:49:13] fuck you birdman fuck you roadies fuck you anytime any property gets into that especially

[00:49:20] when it's a filmmaker who feels spurned by their most recent work 1998 Godzilla yes it is the Achilles

[00:49:26] heel of that thing whether or not the thing works on its own that is always the weakest element

[00:49:31] what is the only good depiction of a critic I can think of in the last 25 years I don't know

[00:49:35] ratatouille and why big well because Robert did never an extra grind no he didn't have an extra

[00:49:41] grind because he's perfect right never he's never gotten about reviewing this entire life

[00:49:45] and why should he but that movie feels like exactly well tomorrow land which we both love

[00:49:50] but it's a good idea later but I'm saying at that point time he had only ever gotten good reviews

[00:49:54] he was in fact a critics darling before he was successful or acclaimed and that's him trying to

[00:50:00] deconstruct the way that other movies and tv shows villainized critics into I get off on hating

[00:50:05] things he's going to do a brand bird series we will 100% it's just a matter of like I feel

[00:50:09] like we want one more movie come on birdie let me he's working on Incredibles 2 that's

[00:50:13] on out to like 20 19 or something maybe we'll do it to coincide with Incredibles 2

[00:50:18] all right we'll keep our show going oh yeah but you know what I'm saying like that character

[00:50:22] works because he's like showing like no critics do want to like things anyway we're way off

[00:50:28] topic Jesus the fucking Newman character played by rain waltz and is like disastrous

[00:50:32] and that episode he comes in and it's like this doesn't make sense his role within

[00:50:37] the music scene doesn't make sense there's no one with that much power no yeah all right

[00:50:41] okay so I guess let's just leave ahead because whatever I was setting up the show but there's

[00:50:44] nothing to set up their band is that there's stuff happening should get to stuff so one

[00:50:48] lots of sexual tension one thing that happens is a blogger yeah a blogger you guys heard of

[00:50:54] those remember those things from 2008 and it's not like well he says he's not a blogger

[00:50:58] yeah he goes in that dumb speech about like a blogger is one who types their words I'm

[00:51:03] the this and the that the fucking whatever a music blogger yes I guess he's supposed to be

[00:51:07] like pitchfork I don't know what he's supposed to be one person who is so I understand I mean I don't

[00:51:13] make no sense it's the closest thing I would think is Bob left sits left sets who's like writes a

[00:51:18] month like a week never heard really he but he writes a little letter he writes like about

[00:51:23] the music industry but also like other stuff and like it's a well read thing but okay I also feel

[00:51:28] like he his thing he's like also Cameron Crowe's age and so he's like old music was great like

[00:51:34] so I feel like it's not him because this guy's hit on the state and house band is that their dad rock

[00:51:40] boom he nailed them but that they're crumbling that they used to be good I guess so like he implies

[00:51:47] that he used to like them which is like it doesn't make sense it feels like they're either the kind

[00:51:50] of band that he would view as like shitty pablum from the get go you I say without ever having

[00:51:55] heard their music the way they're presented on the show or the show is supposed to like

[00:51:59] show that they were like arcade fire and they're like critical darlings or whatever the

[00:52:03] fuck it is but like there's no guy like this who like I mean even the left it's got you mentioned

[00:52:07] I haven't fucking heard of him you know I'm sure he's like influential and well read but this show

[00:52:12] presents him as like as goes Newman so goes the nation like they get the email and they're like

[00:52:17] fuck our tour is ruined right Newman trash there's no person with that power right no pitch

[00:52:23] fork does not have that power right he's trying to make him like a Lance Bangs figure but

[00:52:26] even Lance Bangs was known for being an underground figure at the time no one buys music

[00:52:31] anymore it's like what the fuck is this even people not going to go to the tour now like I don't

[00:52:37] it doesn't matter so they read this bad review in which he called them dad rock and after 20

[00:52:42] minutes of watching a crime YouTube video yeah if you're watching right you watch a YouTube video

[00:52:46] of fucking God doesn't go see them they're mad and so they're furious they're like furious

[00:52:52] you know how to deal with this we're going to ignore it and not care about it no that's

[00:52:55] not what they do they say let's invite him to the show right roll out the red carpet for him

[00:53:00] accidentally get him drunk and drugged well they they put weed in his cappuccino and then he had

[00:53:06] that lady has sex with a crazy person has sex with them right their stalker like obsessive

[00:53:12] I forget who that only the wife something yeah Natalie Shane right yes she's played by

[00:53:19] Jacqueline Byers uh and then he's gonna like humiliate himself on stage and admit like

[00:53:25] I'm not a critic like I'm a loser I don't know he's naked and it's like I listen to dad rock I love

[00:53:31] it and then when cool people pull up I change the station to hip hop yeah which makes me think

[00:53:37] like someone I guess someone really must have pissed off Cameron crew some blogger really

[00:53:43] with all these fucking characters liner notes like was it something like what happened the thing

[00:53:48] I don't like about all these critic characters when people create them is they always make

[00:53:52] them sound like they're disingenuous they're lying to themselves and it's like the bird man woman has

[00:53:57] an axe to grammar she's like I've even seen it I know I hate it because I don't like big famous actors

[00:54:02] yeah yeah and this guy is like I'm gonna trash the music that I think I'm supposed to not like

[00:54:06] but secretly I like all that music right you know it's like presenting them all as being

[00:54:10] insincere and it's like Kimmer girl you loved critics after Jerry McGuire yeah no you know

[00:54:17] he's full of shit and he was a rock writer he was a great he was a fucking cultural credit

[00:54:22] the other thing about this and I'll use this to segue into my next point yeah is that

[00:54:26] the show kind of treats all of this like it's like some cute misadventure right it's like

[00:54:31] oh you got like drugged against his will it's sort of sexually assaulted yeah ha ha ha

[00:54:36] you know he deserved it all in the night's road eating right you know and um

[00:54:41] this show's on showtime yeah so you can say fuck and you can have a pair of breasts yeah

[00:54:48] you can show rain wilson's but she's you know you can do it all that but she and I feel like

[00:54:53] sometimes I don't know you know you used to hear back in the day that these premium networks would be

[00:54:57] like can we get some nudity in here you know what I'd be like just anything just do it you know

[00:55:02] which roadies does like four minutes into episode yeah I wanted to talk about that

[00:55:05] that's what I wanted to segue to so and it feels like Cameron Crowe is either obeying this

[00:55:09] board more likely I would guess he's trying to be cool like almost you know he's like trying to

[00:55:15] be kind of edgy and gross and he comes off so badly so badly and it also worst thing about

[00:55:21] the show yes and this show does a thing I hate which is like all the sort of young

[00:55:26] groupie type women they meet or like the women that Luke Wilson sleeps with are all

[00:55:30] all of these sort of peripheral young millennial characters who are usually

[00:55:34] the ones who end up showing nudity on the show yeah are all presented as so stupid and

[00:55:38] vapid like so idiotic any any millennial they would sleep with Luke Wilson

[00:55:43] which I'm sorry but no way and I like I hate the way the characters are written and then

[00:55:49] they also were cast and played by actors who are clearly making fun of the characters they're

[00:55:53] playing which is a big pet peeve of mine like when there's stupid characters and things

[00:55:58] I like when people play stupid characters affectionately but when I feel like the

[00:56:02] actor is mocking the character they're playing it grosses me out yeah and like this show

[00:56:07] does allow that we're like that fucking opening scene is like Carla Gugino like

[00:56:11] storms into the room this is the worst and it is the worst it's a high point of

[00:56:15] badness except for the gross weird rain wilson stuff yeah the pilot is very

[00:56:19] bad the pilot really fucking bad I mean this and this is the thing I feel like

[00:56:23] these days networks and so I have gotten emails from network people uh-huh where

[00:56:27] they're like you know I know the pilots really bad but just watch you know a

[00:56:31] few more like they'll say to me like I know it starts out bad you can't do

[00:56:36] that you can people won't watch the show especially something like this but here's

[00:56:41] on a Netflix or an amazon or whatever where it's like you can you know the queue

[00:56:44] up the next episode kind of automatically yeah maybe but this like premiered on a

[00:56:48] sunday night you know people might tune in they'd be like this that was shitty

[00:56:52] I'm not gonna watch that again I mean doing pilots is rough because you don't

[00:56:55] really understand like what you're doing until after you've done it to a

[00:56:59] degree right are you speaking from experience

[00:57:02] maybe some as someone who's done like a lot of pilots you know like uh

[00:57:06] and if things come together well there's like a chance you know there's an element

[00:57:09] of luck on your side and like realistically you want your pilot to be

[00:57:14] your worst episode you ever do you just don't want your pilot to be bad right

[00:57:18] but you want to be able to like hit the ground running from there on out

[00:57:22] it is different like a binge culture where it's like I mean with a

[00:57:25] Netflix show certainly they're mapping out the whole season from the gecko

[00:57:28] they're not filming the pilot beforehand so like the pilot is just part one of a

[00:57:33] 10-part series like they you know can make it a cohesive thing rather than like

[00:57:37] having to like do the one you put all the pressure on like as a pilot you're not

[00:57:41] just like creating a show reel for audience members but you're creating a

[00:57:45] show reel for like the network to pick it up so you have to like promise a

[00:57:49] lot of shit and like over stuff it to like get people on board right um

[00:57:55] so I like when you're saying like you can't really do that it's like well I

[00:57:58] mean it like that's a remnant of like the studio system where it's like the

[00:58:03] network system where it's like it's hard to fucking make a pilot good that I'm

[00:58:06] inside this pilot's no it'll be bad that having been said

[00:58:08] yep notably this pilot was shot with Christina Hendricks

[00:58:14] playing the Carla Cagino role really I didn't know that yes that's interesting

[00:58:19] and they got rid of her yeah which was very bizarre and it was like the

[00:58:23] show's going in a different direction and then I read an interview with

[00:58:27] Cameron Crowe when the show premiered they said what happened with Christina

[00:58:29] Hendricks and he went look it was just like as the show was going we just

[00:58:33] realized she wasn't fitting with the tone of the show anymore I think she's an

[00:58:35] incredible actress it really bummed me out I'm definitely gonna work with her

[00:58:38] again I thought she was incredible you wonder how much of that has been but

[00:58:41] it did sound like you know Cagino fits very well in this role

[00:58:45] yes I also would see Christina Hendricks fitting well in this role I

[00:58:48] can't see how she wouldn't fit in because there is no dimensionality to

[00:58:52] the role and basically it's just you kind of have to be kind of charming

[00:58:56] both of them are charming actresses and are serious minded and and are believable

[00:59:01] as professional people who can get things done they have a authority on screen I was

[00:59:04] gonna say here's the character she's like the mommy I guess and she's just sort of like

[00:59:11] knowing smile tilted the head but that's also all Luke Wilson does in this show

[00:59:16] is he's either like slightly grimacing a piece of sad did you just imply that Luke Wilson

[00:59:20] does something on this show I think he does not do not depend on Ben Ben I need you

[00:59:28] yeah how's Luke Wilson on the show I he's just nothing I don't know also I think this idea that

[00:59:35] I could like it it's like Marvel versus Capcom I can like suddenly battle swing in okay can I set up

[00:59:41] a new role though if you want Ben to back you up you have to do it by whispering in Chantis

[00:59:46] Chantis okay while you're sleeping yeah yeah

[00:59:53] I didn't like it as bad

[00:59:57] Suicide Squad

[00:59:59] Suicide Squad though

[01:00:03] that kind of makes sense that the pilot is as disastrous as it is yeah because I even I mean

[01:00:09] they shot the pilot like I want to say like two years ago I remember I just came for it a while ago

[01:00:13] wow okay I believe it and and then there was the reshoots which happened like after the fact

[01:00:18] and then I think it took them a while to do the season and the season was on the shelf for a little

[01:00:21] while like the whole show was was a long process I think that explains a little bit about why the

[01:00:28] pilot is so disjointed because they had to reshoot like 50% of it yeah but I mean I don't even think

[01:00:33] the problem with the pilot is that although I know what you're talking about I mean it's more

[01:00:36] just what I'm talking about which like there's no strong premise no there's no real hook for

[01:00:40] why you'd want to watch more of this none of the characters are compelling in the pilot episode

[01:00:44] no in fact most of them are off putting in the pilot episode it ends with a montage of famous movies

[01:00:50] which he's already done twice and he did it in vanilla sky too that does not make any sense

[01:00:56] like even in the tenuous plotting of the show and you're supposed to believe that like

[01:01:00] that montage is indicative of her skills as a filmmaker which are so strong that Spike Lee

[01:01:06] himself offered her a full scholarship yeah because she's watched movies and taken clips from them

[01:01:11] right she re-edits clips from other shit great Spike Lee wants her to go to NYU really badly

[01:01:15] Spike Lee they say that at one point the Spike Lee been leaving I think I heard it is Spike

[01:01:19] Jones and I just didn't put that together she got a Spike Lee scholarship and they say at one

[01:01:23] point after she doesn't show up to school that she's like I've been getting voicemails from Spike

[01:01:26] Lee asking where I am Spike Lee's thirsty yeah yeah thirst trap yeah Kelly Ann yeah um image

[01:01:33] inputs a darling I love her lovely a lovely actress um not not given enough to do I think you know

[01:01:41] look he casts a bunch of very good actors right people who have like me potatoes chops but also

[01:01:46] all are sort of naturally charismatic in the main cast of the show yes and I think a lot of this

[01:01:52] show is about sort of the communal interaction thing all the characters are two-dimensional

[01:01:57] unquestionably right there is no fully realized character on the show there is yeah I was

[01:02:01] going to take issue with the fact that you're saying all of them are two-dimensional some of

[01:02:05] them have some of them are one dimension yes and some are zero dimensional I'm saying the most well

[01:02:10] developed characters on this show are two-dimensional definitely and I would say probably Rafe's

[01:02:15] ball and image inputs his characters are the most developed probably right would you say I don't

[01:02:20] know who else would you even they kind of shift from they do so damn oh they do I think

[01:02:25] Luke Wilson's character is kind of well developed there's no what tell me one thing about his

[01:02:29] character I think he's an older guy who can't stop fucking up and fucking around yeah I think

[01:02:35] you gotta learn his lesson which is sleep with the most wonderful woman in the world who works

[01:02:40] with you she is wonderful like the show thinks it can ring a 10 episode arc out of will they

[01:02:46] won't they with Luke and Carla but I like that they do an episode five you do yeah but then

[01:02:53] they don't do 10 episodes of wall they won't yes they do though they somehow turn it into

[01:02:56] 10 episodes because they do win in five but then there's like oh she's married I don't know

[01:03:03] what we're doing a lot of that's I'm laughing my end because it's like the show is trying to lift

[01:03:07] its hands up and then it's just like it's too tired now see I like that they just get it over

[01:03:11] with and then like get over with five hours in yeah just David you try to load in and load

[01:03:17] out for a concert they're tired they should be sleeping together like in episode one or married

[01:03:24] or whatever like they're a good team yeah like I don't care about them getting together or not

[01:03:29] I assume they will right there's no tension to it literally in the first episode that we don't

[01:03:34] get any like them like having a connection we just finesse Mitchell being like there's

[01:03:38] something going on between you two in the first which is the most he gets to do in the show

[01:03:43] in the first scene and I think we could we touch on but we didn't exactly like Luke Wilson

[01:03:47] is having sex with a young Asian woman with pierce nipples right who is very stupid and

[01:03:52] the camera like can't stop staring at her nipples yeah and Carla walks in on them I'm not going to use

[01:03:59] their character names Carla Gugino she's in the bathroom the girl he was fucking Carl Gugino walks

[01:04:04] in it's like red alert can we talk and Luke Wilson's like oh I don't know right now is not and then

[01:04:09] she just really good thank you yeah it was pretty good thank you when you watch this you kind of

[01:04:13] remember like yeah he's Owen Wilson's brother they really do sound alike they sound more so much

[01:04:19] even though they don't really look alike I mean obviously there's a resemblance but like you know

[01:04:22] they're very different looking people but they really sound alike I got it I guess I should just

[01:04:25] like full disclosure I'm like way in the pocket for Luke Wilson I always I felt that he was the most

[01:04:31] underrated guy of that group of the sort of slack pack I don't appreciate oh scene I love Luke

[01:04:36] Wilson yeah love Luke Wilson yes he's great in other things not I think he's very I think

[01:04:41] they wanted nominated from Oscar for an two Emmys at least what were the enlightened so good

[01:04:47] on I haven't watched incredible performance and you would again best supporting actor for

[01:04:51] all 10 bombs no for the Verizon ads yeah remember the Verizon ad where you're just like did someone

[01:04:58] add another face of poundage to his face like his face suddenly got so fat well see I kind of

[01:05:04] like his look now because it was like he used to be really really handsome right when he was young

[01:05:08] and then Verizon ads it was like oh he's been injecting like vodka under his skin

[01:05:14] like he cuts slits into his face and has been pouring vodka directly under his skin

[01:05:18] Verizon look at the man so much red right what was even his bit on the board yeah and now I like

[01:05:23] that he he like kind of got it back together I think he kicked the bottle and he looks

[01:05:28] like just a little worn out like he looks like a worn out handsome guy he looks like a roadie

[01:05:33] he looks like someone who conceivably did this for 20 years yeah and I think that history

[01:05:37] of the character kind of works where it's like he was a guy who got by on his charm

[01:05:41] for a very long time like he was friends with the band everyone loved him and he was kind of a

[01:05:45] fuck up and everyone knew he was an alcoholic when he sees everyone they're like wow we had some crazy

[01:05:50] times you're not still drinking are you like they immediately are kind of like you were the best

[01:05:54] please tell me you're not doing that anymore like they realized that right that was good

[01:05:58] you look good uh that it wasn't sustainable and he's now like trying to figure out how to be

[01:06:03] an adult like still kind of in slow motion you know he's got the heart he's got the head

[01:06:08] how old do you think Luke Wilson is now in real life yeah 43

[01:06:13] uh 44 hey pretty good pretty good how old's Owen Wilson older or younger

[01:06:20] hmm that's a good question actually this can be a little game

[01:06:23] does anyone want to tell me how old Owen Wilson is I'm gonna say 41 I'm gonna guess 46 and then the

[01:06:28] third one is Andrew right yeah there's Andrew I think he's the oldest I think he's like 48

[01:06:34] I think so too a lot of numbers being thrown out there but you know what's not none of them

[01:06:40] are comedy points the wi-fi all right we'll get back to Owen Wilson 15 comedy points to the wi-fi

[01:06:45] network here um oh he's 47 Owen Wilson hey wow so he's older I was one year old yeah pretty

[01:06:52] old for Owen Wilson yeah that's pretty old for Wilson 52 yeah I was way off so Luke was the baby

[01:06:59] yeah all right you know what's kind of crazy is that uh Ron White on this show they present

[01:07:03] me as like such a veteran the old timer do you know how old he is I don't know 59

[01:07:10] he looks older yeah good for good for him I don't know what to say I mean my dad is like I think

[01:07:17] five years older than Ron White now and my dad if he had a heart attack on it show time original

[01:07:23] series they'd be like that guy looks too young to have a heart attack and like with Ron White with

[01:07:27] like Phil's character on this show you're just like Jesus I can't believe it didn't happen earlier

[01:07:31] so we're jumping all around but I just want to well I guess we finished on the stupid sex scene at

[01:07:35] the beginning of it it's just a bad it's off to a bad oh she storms in and she's like I talked

[01:07:39] to you about something and then from the bathroom the pierce nipple lady goes like oh my god I

[01:07:44] came so hard the show has such a weird way of talking about sex and sharing sex and it's

[01:07:50] also just like it was like the first episode it's like look at these tits and then like later in

[01:07:54] the episode you see more and then there's another yeah they're total of four tits in the first episode

[01:07:59] what's the stalker deep throats a microphone in the first episode which is a really horrible

[01:08:05] and she also sticks in between her legs they believe so she does a sexy dance with a microphone

[01:08:10] essentially but then the moment rain wilson gets naked they're like no don't show his dick like

[01:08:14] we just got so his butt he's seeing a lot of his butt I don't want to see his dick

[01:08:18] I want to see rain wilson's dick out of curiosity if he's got a nice dick I'll see it but no it

[01:08:22] just it like goes through comically hysterical links to like hide it like he's just like there's

[01:08:27] like a person in front of them they do this by who shag me credits yeah they do they do

[01:08:33] there's a rabbi and a priest and they're like breaking some bread like I mean if you're

[01:08:39] gonna make him this guy like just like give him a fake like tiny dick like really just like top

[01:08:44] it off lean into it yeah it's very bizarre and then the tits kind of go away like as the season

[01:08:50] goes on you know there's not really much more sex or nudity in the show but you get carla's like

[01:08:54] weird phone sex thing yeah that whole episode where she like hugs a guy and is like oh if only I

[01:09:01] could have sex I did I could see that's I do that that gets his episode five is the one that

[01:09:06] starts with her superman watching yeah yeah which makes everyone horny as every way we all know

[01:09:11] yeah fucking it's another vanny fair article he read probably super moons make people horny

[01:09:17] great putting in roadies can have a whole episode I kind of like the structure that episode where it's

[01:09:25] like oh boy her husband uh she hasn't seen him in a while she's getting real horny supermoon and

[01:09:29] then you think she's gonna hook up with one of the two cute guys the cute little boys right

[01:09:34] and then sneak out yeah yeah she looks like a real real superman I thought I was all in on Luke

[01:09:41] I was like this is time I didn't think she was gonna hook up with Luke in that episode I thought

[01:09:44] that was there a save for later in the season yeah I was like alright get it over with already Jesus

[01:09:50] news radio the greatest television show ever made do you agree I think it's way up there I saw

[01:09:55] you tweet that recently you're now on a kick you've put news radio up to number one guys I don't

[01:09:59] know it's the best I'm just kidding oh you would love the problem news radios it's not it's

[01:10:03] not easily watchable on the streaming medias right now it used to be on hulu but it's gone

[01:10:08] yeah and I remember for a while it was on crackle but they'd only have like five random episodes

[01:10:12] at any time from across different seasons um crackle still exists oh baby excuse me

[01:10:18] crackles new show start up with adam brody next week or something I can't remember they're

[01:10:23] crackling they got a bunch of new crackle originals let me tell you they are not crack crackling

[01:10:28] so uh what was I talking about totally oh news radio yeah in the first episode news radio

[01:10:33] day fully and more tyranny or maybe it's the second episode actually news radio is a perfect pilot

[01:10:37] yeah yeah and and then there you go now we can move on and deal with their relationship or not

[01:10:43] and like you know great not just like huh you think the two hot leads of the show are gonna make out

[01:10:49] like you know what is history that in a post sam and diane world no one needs to do the same

[01:10:53] a din diane dynamic anymore right yeah but like man I it I fall hard for tv show romance

[01:11:00] it's like nicking jess a new girl was a big one for me that first kiss jim and pam

[01:11:05] nick and jess yeah nicking jess was the greatest love yeah and just but here's what I liked about

[01:11:09] nicking jess they didn't really do a lot of like hinting about it you know it just kind of happened

[01:11:15] they knew you were thinking about it obviously because they're the two hot leads right but like

[01:11:19] but they also positions uh schmidt for a little while because he's a little bit yeah you know

[01:11:24] they kind of just had him have fun sexy adventures they you know both of them had

[01:11:28] romances and stuff yeah and then there's just that episode the whole I think new girl season

[01:11:34] two is fucking working genius ps no one talks about a girl anymore I agree I love new girl and like

[01:11:39] you know the whole second season nick is crazy he does all this weird shit there are all these

[01:11:43] episodes where he does weird shit there's that whole episode where he talks to the vietnamese

[01:11:46] man on the bench yeah and then like midway through he makes out with her like out of kind of out

[01:11:51] of nowhere right which that's a great scene it is it's incredible and you're just like oh

[01:11:56] of course like yeah fell in love with his roommate like that's why he was so crazy

[01:12:00] like it's it's well done because it's kind of more like how that would be yeah like it wouldn't be

[01:12:06] they would get stuck in an elevator and like oh her shirt would fall off I don't know like whatever

[01:12:10] like they'd have to remove their clothes in front of each other all the time I like what you

[01:12:14] know all the sort of sitcommy tricks you do I'll tell you what I think is the best execution

[01:12:18] of the world they won't they the last 10 years in television uh uh britta and jeff

[01:12:24] oh yeah great 100 percent jeff is but it's all dan harmony and he's making fun of it I mean

[01:12:29] I love it I think it's great that's like they set it up and you think they've forgotten about it

[01:12:33] and a season later it's like they were doing it for ages yeah that's my favorite show of all time

[01:12:37] yeah I just think they deal that perfectly I am a sucker for it I mean it's like a fucking

[01:12:42] storytelling show we're we're failing to talk about the fact that this show has two

[01:12:46] separate will they won't they things going on at the same time yeah we mean poots and rave

[01:12:51] yeah rave poots reg and kelly and red red gm red reliant rave poots does sound like

[01:13:00] rave poots sounds like something you get after eating too much red meat

[01:13:07] oh my god I have to say like I did I only knew him as a terrible person in prometheus and I was

[01:13:14] on board after the show for rave small he is my new favorite he's also in all the edgarite

[01:13:19] movies yeah he kind of right yeah he'll either play terrible people or he'll play sort of he

[01:13:24] granted you know sort of fumbling brit types yeah and he's good at both I think he's good in the show

[01:13:29] I also think this show doesn't do right by him because they pick one or the other per episode

[01:13:33] absolutely like they switch very hard between like he's the crass commercial like sharp because he's

[01:13:37] the only member of the cast who disagrees with anything that's happening like everyone else

[01:13:42] is on board but sometimes he disagrees in sort of an oblivious doofus kind of way where

[01:13:47] it's like you can still find him charming because he's you grantee and he's just not from their world

[01:13:50] and he doesn't get it yet and sometimes he's like I know exactly what I'm doing I'm cutting this off at

[01:13:54] like you know at the next yeah he's in that he's really fun and he is he's just even hall

[01:14:00] Rebecca hall yeah are very cute because you're like immediately like oh well these two are in love

[01:14:05] yeah you know like even though they're very subtle I know even though they're like the

[01:14:08] secretaries to the queen or whatever we like no I get it I get it these two are hot

[01:14:12] race balls like kind of one of my secret favorite actors like I always love him and I went to see

[01:14:19] what was it called betrayal on Broadway oh sure yeah mostly because of him hint up play yeah because

[01:14:25] everyone was going for all backwards like and Craig who I you know I like both of them quite a bit

[01:14:30] yeah but I was like I really want to see rave spaw and Craig you know it's Rachel vice and Daniel

[01:14:34] Craig no it's on tnt you know one of them is a tomboy one of them is a girly girl yeah

[01:14:39] bison Craig right uh I think my mom watches that show yeah exactly it's 18th season but but so yeah

[01:14:45] I mean I like this whole cast there are a lot of my sort of favorite underappreciated actors

[01:14:50] are in the cast of the show or I knew we're making guest appearances or whatever it was so poots

[01:14:54] it's gotta be on that list good you know Wilson you know obviously but good you know

[01:14:58] it's like every great director has to have his chance to not use her right like you know it's

[01:15:03] like she's the most badly used actress in Hollywood but can I say this and I think it's partly

[01:15:08] sexism it's her age and stuff so she sort of gets punted down to like a sort of a second tier

[01:15:14] of projects or whatever she works so much oh tons and in a way she kind of has my dream career

[01:15:22] she's got a nice career like she's someone I think about where it's like her fame's never

[01:15:26] become overwhelming no but she just works all the time in like a variety of different types of

[01:15:31] projects so she gets to flex a lot of different muscles because she had her run of like she was

[01:15:37] like in all those shitty like family comp like she did the fucking night the museum and mr poppers

[01:15:41] penguin oh she's done all that you know for like older like not older but like didn't spike it right

[01:15:46] all three spike it right uh you know I think of her as more of a tv actress I feel like she got

[01:15:51] failed on tv yeah so she was she deserved a better tv show I mean Karen Cisco yeah well

[01:15:56] Karen Cisco is the one that they fucked up then that should have been her show like that

[01:16:00] and everyone agreed that it was like oh here's her moment yeah I saw her the other day that's all I

[01:16:05] have to contribute to this wow what was she doing uh going to the night show that's cool I was just

[01:16:11] like oh to talk rotis I think so maybe it was like a few weeks ago yeah um spin city she was on

[01:16:17] spin city the great season they wrote her off right because they didn't want Michael j fox to have

[01:16:21] a girlfriend right she was then on chicago hope for a year they wrote her off I don't know why

[01:16:25] I didn't watch chicago hope she was on Karen Cisco that didn't work out she was on threshold

[01:16:30] you remember threshold dinklage Charles dutch Charles Dutton brand van holt who is okay yeah

[01:16:37] Brent spiner yes I mean it was like a crazy cat couple of my favorite people there yeah

[01:16:42] aliens yeah like there's tentacle aliens taken over the world if they got to stop them dinklage

[01:16:47] spiner they've got them all but it like didn't exist it was it was one of the post-loss shows

[01:16:52] it was 05 you know so it's the second season of loss and it was when every other network

[01:16:56] was on CBS which is objectively insane the wrong network yeah and that was when ABC had the show

[01:17:02] called I think it was called invasion that was about william fichner in like a post-catriona swamp

[01:17:07] being taken over by aliens brilliant show completely no one knew to make of it I love that year

[01:17:13] I just remember everyone's like no weird sci-fi we're doing this for a year I remember at that

[01:17:17] time flipping through the channels and seeing the opening of threshold with the cast list

[01:17:23] and going like wait there's a Carla Gugino Charles s. Dutton Peter Dinklage on television

[01:17:27] I don't know about it no one knew about it the marketing has objectively failed yeah if I don't

[01:17:33] know about this show uh and then of course political animals well before political

[01:17:37] animals didn't have enough grip she was on entourage for years I just had I was eager

[01:17:40] I want to get to the joke about me not having enough dialogue on political animals

[01:17:43] she was on political animals yes I played her assistant she played she's in wayward pines the

[01:17:49] and my shaman on show yeah which I believe is coming back twin peaks she's on twin peaks no

[01:17:54] I'm just making a wayward time is twin peaks yes indeed uh I think she's on season two wayward

[01:18:00] pines so wayward pines is coming back it is coming back yeah also literally everyone is in twin

[01:18:04] peaks the revival so it's possible that she's also in it yeah any better isn't it yeah and

[01:18:10] isn't fucking uh uh sky ferrera in it yeah I was using any better as a way to tie it back

[01:18:16] to rowdy so very smart uh good good you know good you know rules um yeah she's amazing she rolls

[01:18:23] yeah she's great in watchmen which is a pretty terrible movie yeah you know who she should have

[01:18:27] played in that movie but everyone modern day so yeah 100% she was the best possible person to play

[01:18:33] that mean I don't even want to get into watchmen and like that you guys do we'll do Snyder

[01:18:38] we will 100% do something that's 2021 we're doing it then I'm pitching it it's a waste from

[01:18:44] now I don't want to do that shit I'll do it if we only do ghool yeah every episode and it'll be called

[01:18:52] sny kids because we're the kids who talk sny

[01:18:59] how uh how do we get on this I think carl agarjee has a perfect career I think we did wrong by

[01:19:06] her but I think she also like still has a sense of anonymity and gets to do a lot of interesting

[01:19:10] work it does Broadway and does TV and does movies and does things of different sizes I think

[01:19:15] you know she doesn't get uh uh oh she's also done three movies with doing the rock johnson

[01:19:21] is that right is she in a journey she's in one of the journeys I don't think she's in a journey

[01:19:25] she's in raised to which mountain or escaped to which mountain and she's in san adreus of course

[01:19:31] which gets oh of course yes faint praise awards for age appropriate love interest yeah very much

[01:19:36] and she's got one other rock movie I'm forgetting right now I think maybe she's faster

[01:19:41] she isn't faster yeah call thank you yeah of course she's in sin city back in the day yeah

[01:19:47] as topless parole officer topless gay parole officer yeah any other credits we want to list

[01:19:53] she's in welcome home let's welcome home rossy karmichael is young rossy karmichael was it

[01:19:58] troop everly hills wasn't she uh one of the kids in troop everly hills yeah she's cheek

[01:20:03] this is this is the rest of the episode ben how long have we been going for

[01:20:06] I'm sorry enchantress how long have we been going for an hour and 22 minutes okay cool

[01:20:16] I even forget what we like sidebarred off of here uh I think most of the characters we're just

[01:20:21] talking about each character yeah talking about these two you know most of the characters are

[01:20:23] two-dimensional at best but it's a lot of actors who I find very charming and I think collectively

[01:20:29] the scenes where it's everyone kind of together there's a decent energy to it yeah because uh I don't

[01:20:34] know I think uh chemical strength has always been when he's good at chemistry sure I capture that

[01:20:42] so strength right a strength of his you know yeah capturing chemistry and there are moments where

[01:20:45] everyone's sitting around and talking where there's just sort of a very easygoing loose nature

[01:20:49] to the history of these characters that I really like and by far the best episode is the one

[01:20:53] where they're just listening to him talk about skinnered no question yes I agree that it

[01:20:58] best ever we get there yeah that's that episode works doesn't have any of the cast in it or have

[01:21:04] much to do with the actual show which helps but it like it kind of it's like you see the vision for

[01:21:09] a better show in that of just like set in the past rock guys so that's the eighth episode is called

[01:21:14] the all night bus ride uh-huh I think there are two good episodes in this show that would be my in

[01:21:18] this season I'd say like five and five but okay which one was your other one that you think

[01:21:23] this insinuity episode is pretty cute and basically works it is a functional episode of television

[01:21:29] I'd say this is a tv critic who's seen a lot of tv yeah and they're gonna pull rank on him okay I

[01:21:34] don't and then I think the all night bus ride is pretty good which is the skinnerd which is

[01:21:38] basically Ron White shows up and he's like let me tell you about Leonard skinnered you know

[01:21:44] Van Zandt and all these guys great yeah and I was like I know the history of skinnerd

[01:21:49] and I still was kind of touched at the end when Van Zandt died I was like oh right and he nails that

[01:21:54] scene yeah I mean Ron White really brings it home yeah also it's interesting because I would say

[01:21:58] just to bring it back to vinyl uh-huh one thing vinyl you're doing the i-twitch from the tick

[01:22:02] right now yeah one thing vinyl I'm tired yeah and I haven't eaten enough yeah one thing vinyl did

[01:22:08] that was a tough thing to do was have people play either actual celebrities from the past or

[01:22:14] like celebrity yeah and you're just like well that's not Robert Plant now I'm just out of this

[01:22:19] scene like I can't or what you know like that's like this sucks like in fact I know that guy yeah

[01:22:24] well he had a tough challenge yeah to uh and then in this this is that's the only time they do it

[01:22:29] they have someone play a fictional music yeah I mean I have he does a decent job he does a good

[01:22:34] job and it also helps that it's in the past so it's kind of like a memory play I mean that's

[01:22:38] always like a difficult thing where it's like when you get to a show like this it's like

[01:22:42] okay so what are your like three options do you have like people play like fictional

[01:22:50] musicians sure it always kind of feels wrong right especially in the Stanton House band stuff

[01:22:56] doesn't feel real and it's like even just their physicality where they're on stage feels a little

[01:23:01] too studied and affected you never hear the songs it's impossible to like write a fake band

[01:23:06] and successfully make it like they're supposed to be great or they're supposed to be terrible

[01:23:09] although I'll argue that the only one of the only people who've done it successfully as Cameron

[01:23:13] Crowe still waters a great fake band still waters a good fake band yeah although you definitely

[01:23:18] sometimes are thinking like so this is like who is this well they're supposed to be you know

[01:23:22] like that's good with fictional bands as you're trying to figure out like map it onto who they

[01:23:26] are like still one that thing you do which is the best move oh right that's you're right

[01:23:30] that's actually the best one that's a good call it's good when it's just a very obvious

[01:23:34] type of music yes you know and it doesn't have to be a particular band just a wave of music

[01:23:38] like a British invasion or whatever you know well and here's the other thing with that thing

[01:23:41] you do it's their one hit wonder so you only have to do one song yes and that one song was perfect

[01:23:46] you got to nail the song they nailed the song right and the band is sort of so accidental where

[01:23:51] they're not ready for anything that they don't have to pitch it as like they're a great band

[01:23:54] or they're a terrible band they're sort of caught up in a whirlwind what a cute movie

[01:23:58] that's so good music was written by the guy from fountains of wane yeah grew up very near

[01:24:03] where i grew up in new jersey did you know stacy's mom i did not but i used to go to the

[01:24:08] fountains of wane which was an actual store that sold fountains cool did you get any fountains

[01:24:15] my dad did one time purchase a bird fountains did you ever see the store fountains of wane

[01:24:19] eating a burger because that'd be a good burger report oh no uh what do you want to say griffin

[01:24:26] no i'm just i'm bummed out to hear that you did know stacy's mom because i want to

[01:24:30] i've been trying to get confirmation as to whether or not she had it going on but that's

[01:24:34] i don't know i'll make a few calls we'll see what i can uh you know i've just been trying to get to

[01:24:38] the bottom of that one for years no sure uh i'll yeah i'll ask around because she's all i want i've

[01:24:42] waited for so long um can i hand out comedy points no not for that i won't i won't let you

[01:24:52] give me comedy points if you tried to give him comedy points so that they would like kind of

[01:24:55] repel like he was a magnet you know but then i could catch them they could be mine again

[01:25:00] then backwards yeah you're getting really this is you're getting power mad about this a lot it's

[01:25:06] funny we i i love that people picked up on andy you know giving you comments on fox so i was also

[01:25:12] i've been given comedy points by allay yes maybe i don't think i've met the other members of this

[01:25:17] oh really okay um i uh uh was was on fox news recently on the television program red eye to

[01:25:24] promote the tech and andy levy who was the guest host for the show gave me comedy points on air

[01:25:29] really yeah which was like amazing to have that thing filter through to fox news um and i think

[01:25:35] we talk about this in a future episode but this is more relevant as to when that

[01:25:40] clip actually dropped so we're mentioning it now yeah yeah we'll talk about it anymore because

[01:25:44] we'll talk about it in another episode god this whole thing of recording episodes out of order

[01:25:47] is insane i'm very confused a good idea because we're like i mean it's just a movie anyway so

[01:25:52] right whatever right like we can do it in any order we don't need to be topical but we have all

[01:25:57] these bits we weave yeah yeah it's a tangled web we weave it is um so episode one oh god

[01:26:05] it's the pilot episode and it's called bad episode life is a carnival bad episode we all

[01:26:09] agree it's a bad episode two is called what would phil do what happens in that one

[01:26:13] i think uh they fire and yeah lucas take over the new ron white does he do the circle

[01:26:21] yeah not very well like everyone's kind of like i also feel like he's in the first episode they

[01:26:26] established he's like good at his job and then he takes over and everyone's like fuck you get out

[01:26:30] of here man we want the embezzler like no one like hated him in the first episode i'd say that

[01:26:36] episode is an improvement but it is still mediocre i'd say that episode is just kind of

[01:26:40] like okay you're getting to like a cruising altitude like the ship the plane isn't crashing anymore

[01:26:45] is anything else happening in that episode i can't remember it's okay it's like i just watched this

[01:26:51] in a week me too now i mean i'll admit like that probably hurt my like liking of the show having

[01:26:56] to slightly binge it this show is very old school and that it really does feel like you could

[01:27:00] watch this over a year right like in every episode just kind of an episode there are

[01:27:05] obviously like storylines that continue but the episodes are kind of self-contained

[01:27:08] it feels very like 2003 where even if it's like a cable show it's like well we might not get a dvd

[01:27:13] box set so you have to make sure that someone could jump in at episode five and get it i also think

[01:27:18] you see how this show could so easily be a half hour live studio audience sitcom sure like the

[01:27:25] format of the show feels very classical camera sitcom you know whatever yeah probably would have

[01:27:30] been better like that uh yeah i agree third episode is the brice newman letter which is

[01:27:34] catastrophic wait i want to go back to the first episode and do a very nerdy nitpick please

[01:27:39] is that okay okay yeah which is that when west shows up he's handing bootlegs to people as like

[01:27:44] here i've brought you these cds which is okay whatever but he says to uh donna the one with the baby

[01:27:51] yeah yeah he gives her a replacement cd and he goes uh last show with the original band 1987

[01:28:01] first of all that's a weird no one says last show with the original band you say lineup last show

[01:28:05] with the original lineup and it was 86 it was wrong wrong fact on this and it bothered me and

[01:28:11] i was like i'm gonna bring it up on the show and here we are and you feel like that's the one thing

[01:28:16] cameron crow would right which would be like he should know this liner notes guy like it's

[01:28:20] supposed to be his thing which also makes me think that like maybe he just kept saying it

[01:28:23] wrong and takes and they were like no one is going to notice this and i'm the person who

[01:28:27] was like no it was 86 stints and left the band this season does feel like this season this series feels

[01:28:34] like liner notes the tv show yeah 100 percent you know a pinot palladino joke in one episode

[01:28:41] which is like i feel like me and three other people were like oh yeah pinot palladino cool

[01:28:46] it also so much of this show is him like grabbing like reaching his hands out of the tv screen

[01:28:51] fat albert the movie style grabbing the viewer by the lapels and going like you should care about

[01:28:55] music like the circle thing is like a device right to have luke wilson explain the history of every

[01:29:01] town they go to musically and then even just like the song of the day thing is like such a weird

[01:29:06] listen to this song i heard that's also the whole series is like the song of the day like

[01:29:10] every episode has like five songs that are like spotlighted i mean i did the this tweet last

[01:29:15] night that was like a too long didn't read version of rodie's i saw that and i screen capped three

[01:29:20] things from one episode yeah i could probably find it and it was like it was basically every time

[01:29:26] you go ahead it was like luke wilson with like a winsome expression and then it said like like gentle

[01:29:30] rock music and then it was like a gangly rock music right but then it was like color gajino

[01:29:36] looking sad and then it said like rock continues playing and then them like canoodling

[01:29:44] right before they kiss and it said like uh pensive rock music i think pensive is the first

[01:29:48] one i don't know whatever it was just like a great tweet yeah thank you i threw it afave rock

[01:29:54] slow rock continues mellow guitar chord right right so uh fourth episode is called city whose

[01:30:00] name must not be spoken then raced ball says the word since an addy it's a cute episode

[01:30:05] yeah that's the first one that made me kind of turn around would be best i think is a 22 minute

[01:30:10] episode because the way they're like wait what did you do he did it he went and did it

[01:30:16] guys everyone come in here everyone everyone's here finesse everyone's here he said it what he

[01:30:22] what did i say you know what you said the sea word they say the sea word as i didn't say the sea

[01:30:27] word yeah but wait my favorite thing in the show happens in that episode well my second favorite

[01:30:31] thing okay which is that and that he says it and like everyone's like freaking out and then jim

[01:30:35] james from my morning jacket comes out of the bathroom image and pooch goes you're jim james

[01:30:41] right and he goes yeah she goes i'm a big fan and then he's just there for the episode

[01:30:44] no one like they like he like vaguely is like yeah thanks for taking me on the bus but like no one

[01:30:49] is like why are you here like you're not opening for the band you're just hanging out anytime they have

[01:30:54] a real life musician on the show they constantly refer to them by their full name even when they're

[01:31:01] talking to them yeah no one is like jim's here right or like or they never even use pronouns

[01:31:06] where they're like okay so he's waiting in the back yeah give him going like look the head in the

[01:31:10] heart sabotage our shots yeah right they keep on saying like you spit on john cougar melon

[01:31:16] camps guitar do you realize john cougar melon camp is hold on john cougar melon camp i'm explain

[01:31:21] this to the kid no john john john cougar melon camp i'll finish talking you in just a moment

[01:31:25] like they keep on the amount of times they say head in the heart in the first two episodes if

[01:31:29] you had a drinking game you would die so um and also they just kind of shit talk them too they

[01:31:34] like bring them aboard and then they're like they stole our shit and they also like in the

[01:31:38] hearts like kind of well no like they're not like no they're not that well known that's what i'm saying

[01:31:43] that's what i'm saying it's like weird that they talk it up like they're like we have to head in the

[01:31:47] heart yeah that's why they have to and then they get depict them as villains and then they get

[01:31:51] like lindsay buckingham to open too which is why i have two numbers right who i have no idea

[01:31:56] how big this band is if you're taking like a moderate indie band or a legend of music yeah

[01:32:01] yeah and that's just running fucking like plot thread is like oh they can't hold on to an

[01:32:06] opening act so every show they need a new opening act which is like an excuse to bring in new

[01:32:10] guest stars but it also is like i don't i don't fucking care let's talk about how many running

[01:32:15] jokes are okay that he can't find a suitcase is it every episode he has to make the call it is what

[01:32:21] it is yeah uh it's not you look great the security guard like a delete goodbye what are they

[01:32:29] talking about you look great is a recurring joke on this one yeah you look great the

[01:32:34] security guard put on my time i've been waiting two years to use that on this podcast

[01:32:41] carry on sorry i'm sorry uh the security guard every episode being like it's not gonna happen tonight

[01:32:46] puna yeah uh that's i'd refer to punas existence as a running joke because he's never treated seriously

[01:32:53] as a human being is that it uh there have to be some other one but they all they like every

[01:32:59] episode and they do tie them up at the end but like every episode these like five things

[01:33:04] hit the same things over and over again let's talk about the most important thing that happens on

[01:33:07] the run of the show well should we go to the next episode because i think the next one is maybe

[01:33:10] where this happened fifth episode is friends and family which is the one where luke and carla

[01:33:14] hook up ends the supermoon episode okay sixth episode is longest days i don't even remember

[01:33:21] what that one i think what i'm referring to the fight with janine yes that's yeah yeah yeah

[01:33:26] another super villain on the show right yes that's the one right but he meets janine in episode five

[01:33:31] janine pops up i think at the end of episode five and she's all sweetness and light or somewhere in

[01:33:36] the middle of course you know steals young rave's heart so she can break up the band and and in

[01:33:41] episode five you're like oh well maybe she genuinely likes rave spaul he's he's likable as we all did

[01:33:48] i'll say of all the world they want they's the show sets up they're the couple that have

[01:33:51] the most chemistry for me those early scenes i think they're really good and they try to set this

[01:33:55] image in poots thing where it's like well he clearly likes her she hates him because he represents

[01:34:00] everything she hates and then everyone assumes they've slept together and then like for the next

[01:34:04] seven episodes the show proceeds with like well they're not really talking to each other they

[01:34:08] moved on because everyone assumed it so now like the tension's gone for them and the second

[01:34:13] allison came in or allison i was like thinking of the fucking uh elvis castello like that's

[01:34:18] clearly the archetype of what she's supposed to be um but uh the second janine comes in it's like

[01:34:24] this is a much better couple your age appropriate the two of you have good chemistry these scenes

[01:34:28] are really nice and that's kind of an interesting story idea no she's a hateful villain right

[01:34:33] who must be destroyed which is a bummer because i love episode six i love the plotline idea of

[01:34:39] money man in charge of a band falls in love with the x that the band the singer can't get

[01:34:45] over who he wrote the song yeah that's a great idea that's a cool idea to these an idea and the

[01:34:50] scenes are a little too jazzed but we love this show it's a gentleman six yeah it's a gentleman sick

[01:34:56] what don't you understand about a gentleman six david oh my god that was an av club rating right

[01:35:02] yeah yeah it was a gentleman six it was a plus a vanderwerp would always hand out a gentleman six

[01:35:05] old old toddy yeah um uh i do like the idea that he's drawn to her because she's like a

[01:35:11] quote-unquote muse like that's sort of just interesting especially because he's like he

[01:35:14] doesn't get music really and also that he's around yeah a hundred percent and that he's around all

[01:35:19] these sort of show folk and she's like a real person like she's presented being the salt of the earth

[01:35:24] like you know in episode five in episode six she's a monster right and it turns out she just

[01:35:28] wanted to get back at what's his pants in episode six she's the joker like she suddenly like

[01:35:32] fucking organized like she put the the prisoners on the one fucking fairy and gave them the

[01:35:37] detonation for the other right there you know it's like a crazy master plan uh what's the

[01:35:43] guy mike finger no mr finger uh uh uh a tiny zoos tiny listen to the mister yeah he he he

[01:35:51] throws the keys in the room yeah can we mention because i forget which episode is but there's

[01:35:54] a multi-episode arc on this show where rodies gets finger i think it's around the same time

[01:36:04] finger shows up in in two episodes yeah he's i think he's there at the funeral like but no

[01:36:11] right there's no shot of him he's just in the back no fingers got a three episode three he's got three

[01:36:16] because he's introduced one they're trying to find uh outtakes and demos so that they can

[01:36:22] release a box set because that's uh is big i think it sells right yeah it's 2016 people buy box

[01:36:28] yeah and luke wilson's like i don't know about inviting finger so finger is the guy who runs

[01:36:33] mike finger is that his name yes yeah but they always say his full name they're like michael

[01:36:37] lewis finger and he runs mr finger he runs their wet fansite yeah for the state and house a diehard

[01:36:44] he dresses like uh awesome powers it um i was gonna say he dresses like the millionaire from

[01:36:52] gilligan's island like he's always got for like a corsage and a little sailor's cap he dresses

[01:36:58] like a yachting man don't get about crow isn't he supposed to be like the voice of the fan and

[01:37:03] like you know the people who love these things he's like the closest crow surrogate on the show and

[01:37:08] then everyone was a fool yeah like he's like presented first as being a weird loser and this

[01:37:14] president is being like an obsessive asshole yeah it's at first he's bad and then the character

[01:37:18] actually becomes actively malevolent yeah and then it gives luke wilson a chance to be like oh

[01:37:24] right this is why i did music when he like visits the shrines of the band even though like a

[01:37:28] couple episodes before yeah but like a couple episodes before he has like the same revelation

[01:37:33] yeah like when he goes to his own house yeah and it's like all right there's this grand parson's

[01:37:38] jacket uh music he kind of looks like luke wilson goes on a 10 minute rant about fucking grand parson's

[01:37:43] ruining country yeah he did that's it was out of nowhere also look like love that there's like all

[01:37:49] these artifacts like important things that like these people just own like random woody guthrie's

[01:37:55] guitar which apparently melanchemps actually does own i googled and found out but like

[01:38:00] grand parson's jacket and like like who has this and like uses it big bopper

[01:38:09] they got jim worrisons dick in a box just in like a little shoebox oh boy but no rain wilson i don't

[01:38:17] remember what happened i think episode seven is the one where finger goes crazy i can't remember

[01:38:21] it's called carpet season oh yeah where he has that he goes to an a-midi yeah it's the local

[01:38:26] the denver show right i mean it's not where everything goes yeah yeah so every episode set a

[01:38:30] different series a different in a different city yes except there are two denver episodes because

[01:38:35] they do two nights yeah that's the genean fingers right right and that's an arc i can't believe

[01:38:40] i just have to say finger is like a that's when they finger gene oh no enchantress drop the

[01:38:46] kid uh so finger um oh man oh fuck right maron he's in the denver episodes right he comes in

[01:38:55] earlier he locks the gates he they unlock the gates and they i was honestly disappointed he didn't

[01:39:01] make any reference to that maybe it's earlier actually so maron does a set in front of one of the show

[01:39:07] he's the he's the opener he's the sober partner sort of like bobcat goldthwaite in nirvana let's remember

[01:39:12] that's how he comes in as they go the basis who's been like sort of bottoming out and now dating

[01:39:17] the stalker who snuffed backstage by the way great storyline great storyline also in the 10th episode

[01:39:23] or the ninth episode the basis looks at the camera as a mirror and shaves like he's lucwilson the royal

[01:39:29] tenor bombs oh and i'm like is he gonna kill himself like what is this the editing river we don't see

[01:39:35] him again it's almost shot for shot in terms of movement editing rhythms identical to the uh

[01:39:39] royal tenor bomb sequence but no elliot smith song right instead of saying lucwilson goes you're

[01:39:45] going to kill yourself right instead he looks in the mirror and says you married her right it's

[01:39:49] the weirdest homage i don't know it must be an homage it'd be crazy for not david david it's like

[01:39:56] shot for shot i know i know the cuts are the same the literal movements he does there's no way it's

[01:40:00] accidental the framing is identical he says one line it's the same luc felt uh fucking weird i don't

[01:40:07] know he's too busy thinking about for us and great coverage all over this land they do yeah they do

[01:40:12] i got great coverage he's so fat faced he like gained 80 pounds in his face and nowhere else

[01:40:18] but i like they've got some wrinkles now that he looks a little he looks good now i mean he looks

[01:40:21] a little bit when enlightened billy look good yeah he figured it out bill look good so marin shows up

[01:40:28] he's he's the sober partner i just want to emphasize the fact that's not like they're like

[01:40:32] let's get comedian mark maron the basis has been going off the wagon he's like okay he's got a

[01:40:36] sober partner and they keep on saying like i don't trust any sober partner that he hires when

[01:40:40] he's sober when he's drunk you know like who's this guy gonna be they show up and they're like

[01:40:44] you're mark maron he's like oh yeah no i'm a sober partner and they're like what and then like

[01:40:50] oh catastrophe our opening act dropped out and read just like oh mark maron why don't you do

[01:40:55] us oh my god mark maron and they're like oh bubba bubba bubba bubba bubba and then they're like

[01:40:59] you can't let mark maron do a set he gets up he does the best 45 minutes out of his life

[01:41:03] and then afterwards bill's gotta fire him and he does every mark maron joke because you know i mean

[01:41:08] the lord michael's interview he does it all who are guys also like the the minor thread about

[01:41:15] like the roadies have a band and like every time they're like well this might be the time you go on

[01:41:19] and then mark maron shows up and they're like no sorry guys and they're like no it's okay like we

[01:41:23] didn't want to do that they get bumped for maron which feels like the inverse of a maron story

[01:41:28] that he would tell as to why he hates somebody there's somewhere in universe a podcaster by mylo

[01:41:33] yeah like man fucking maron bumped us again i think i just had to get over i forgot about mylo

[01:41:40] through this all mylo maybe has a crush on image and poots i didn't mention that yeah and he's pretty

[01:41:44] like broken hearted about it but he never does anything about it and they barely talk about it

[01:41:47] and also when he actually like goes to say it to her they kind of sweep it under the rug yes

[01:41:52] when they're in weed california and then there's the other time where he refuses to talk to her

[01:41:57] because he's so heartbroken by the fact that she allegedly slept with rave spa which he didn't

[01:42:01] yeah he just believes that because kisha castle he was who's character actually never more than

[01:42:06] i'm thinking about is really kind of a bad person yeah he's just going around being like you fuck

[01:42:10] rave spa and then poots like no i didn't oh no she's not there for the birth of her daughter yeah

[01:42:16] she's also the one who she is she's also the one who notices luke and carla right she's like yeah

[01:42:22] they had sex last night right but she's right about that one and wrong about the other one but people

[01:42:26] believe the wrong one more than they believe the right one i also just want to say at some point

[01:42:32] rave spa is like in a hotel and he there's a fountain this is my favorite moment the show yeah

[01:42:38] he just like goes over and touches and he goes oh it's wet and like that was my favorite line

[01:42:42] this whole thing because it was so charming and like british you know he's he's good it's just

[01:42:47] that's the show i want to watch yeah i have a question any relation to timothy yes his son

[01:42:52] oh shit down here and then what does timothy sposey and vanilla sky what does he say it's yeah

[01:42:59] look the guides listen to me look the gates i'm timothy spole look the guys you're gonna have

[01:43:07] putters and murmurs eight episode eight is the called the all night bus ride in which

[01:43:11] ron white shows up to talk about working for learners this episode pretty good i would give

[01:43:16] that episode of gentlemen six and it feels more formally audacious i'd give that episode

[01:43:20] gentlemen's eight or nine directed by sam jones that's ridiculous uh that's like i also don't

[01:43:24] watch a lot of tv yeah i watch a lot of tv yeah i also read the av club see i don't watch a lot of

[01:43:31] tv and i kind of uh i will say i will say this okay and maybe you know this what the

[01:43:37] fucking you're gonna say let's get the vomit bucket back out here no i i have commitment

[01:43:42] issues to a degree and so i have a hard time like getting into tv shows uh and so i like

[01:43:46] watching shows that are like very kind of just like wait for thin like you can sort of

[01:43:50] bat around you know and an hour long like i can't i can't it's so much time to devote to something

[01:43:56] but here's the thing i don't want to get roped into a show that i feel like i need to keep on

[01:44:00] watching if that makes any sense like i watch a lot of challenging formally audacious

[01:44:04] emotionally wrought movies and with tv i can't wait to see it either with tv i just

[01:44:09] kind of want to like unwind and watch stuff i find the show pretty relaxing and i kind of

[01:44:14] like that it's like so basic and whatever there is the sort of i mean that episode feels more

[01:44:19] formally audacious in how it like the show could be in that something happens in it and yeah and

[01:44:24] that's its own format you know that like this storytelling structure could change every time

[01:44:27] but i kind of like that's just like i found this to be a pleasant hangout show certainly

[01:44:32] after watching the first episode i would not have kept watching if i did not have to for this

[01:44:37] podcast yeah but i like pleasantly watched like episodes you know from episode three on i was

[01:44:42] like i'm enjoying watching this i don't think it's great i will never be compelled to watch it again

[01:44:47] there are moments i like a lot their performances i like i am having a fine enough time playing

[01:44:52] this show episode after episode but that's that's the thing if i'd watched the pilot

[01:44:58] i would never have 100% like if i just tuned in on a sunday but after like having to watch it

[01:45:05] being forced to and staying up and like losing sleep to watch this thing i liked it yeah

[01:45:11] boo so uh episode nine it's called the corporate gig yeah uh what happens in that ron white dies

[01:45:19] and he falls and i was swimming pool they do a corporate gig at funko which is a rubber company

[01:45:23] which shares the name of like the biggest toy collectibles company which is so weird which is

[01:45:28] very bizarre because the funko pops were decimated they were decimated that is true but i also

[01:45:32] i don't know yeah i feel like that's like a more recent thing like in the past year and if it

[01:45:36] really was shot like a year or two ago then maybe it wasn't a big deal maybe not impossible but it is

[01:45:42] odd that they keep on saying that they used to be a toy company and now they make rep performance like

[01:45:45] it's but uh uh what's his face from togetherness isn't it oh steve zissus zissus oh yeah he's he was

[01:45:52] great yeah i was like there's that guy there he is and david spade david spade yeah and now

[01:45:56] david spade you're waiting for this david spade thing to pay up because the whole season they're

[01:45:59] all watching this show they're like heat watching the show and they're like it's so bad but i

[01:46:03] can't help but watch dead sex it's like the ring except instead of dying within seven days you have to

[01:46:09] have sex within nine yeah once you're cursed by zombies it's like an opposite uh it follows

[01:46:16] yeah sex is the thing that saves you and david spade's the one guy who can have sex because it's

[01:46:20] about attractiveness and everyone throws out david spade's attractiveness as an empirical fact

[01:46:25] he also wrote and produced the show which he would never fucking do no he showed no

[01:46:29] interest in crazy like yeah he's no a famously lazy man yeah who gets out of bed when his friends

[01:46:34] ask him to do stuff you know he looks good he does just like bill yeah uh and then he ends up mc'ing

[01:46:42] this corporate show yeah and bill's like god tell me how dead sex ends and he's like it ends with

[01:46:48] this and he's like that's a bad ending and then you just see david spade freaking out and going

[01:46:51] like we have to reshoot the ending and that's the payoff of the dead sex thing ha ha so weird

[01:46:56] to set up a fictional show within a show that seems like it's gonna have there's no like uh

[01:47:01] parallels it's not just like a bad ending but it's like they they set up that episode after like the

[01:47:06] they show it like clips they're like they show a scene where it's like he's trying to find a woman

[01:47:10] named jen yeah and so luke wilson asked him i'm gonna forget his name but he's like so what happens

[01:47:16] to jen he's like i killed her and it's like why would you do that why would you do that

[01:47:20] like so was he supposed to kill carla at the end of the show like is that the metaphor

[01:47:25] there's no metaphor it never maps on should have just been like oh yeah you know i realized

[01:47:30] like she was the one or like you know had to keep on having dead sex with her you know and a show

[01:47:36] that's already about fake bands having them watch a fake tv show especially a tv show that makes no

[01:47:42] sense that like would never exist you know like they would never let david spade do that even if

[01:47:46] david spade had the like momentum to want to make that show they'd be like no you're

[01:47:50] david spade why would we make a show about you having to fuck everybody yeah which kind of seems

[01:47:56] like a camron crow's idea for this show basically is like his surrogate does kind of

[01:48:00] fuck everybody true i mean at least the surrogate is handsome yeah yeah i mean he looks good

[01:48:07] yeah everyone says he's looked better yeah he looks good never has everyone said all right

[01:48:12] come on guys let's wrap let's get to the end of this well the final episode is one of the worst

[01:48:16] things i've ever seen in my life and i wanted to throw my computer out a window which is basically

[01:48:20] ron white dies in the ninth episode big he comes back i guess after being fired for criminal activity

[01:48:27] because they need him right they need also they just they casually mentioned he's murdered two people

[01:48:32] but like they're like this is okay we can employ him and i mean but can i say i kind of like that

[01:48:37] okay just like vinyl you said can i make my whole info are you

[01:48:44] go ahead i feel i like that he contains multitudes and they're able to simultaneously say

[01:48:50] basilar that he you know but but like from episode one it feels like they're going like

[01:48:55] oh santa claus is a piece of shit you're fucking lied to the guy you thought was your

[01:48:59] mentor has been garbage the whole time yeah and it's like when he comes back the lint

[01:49:04] skin episode it's like he's a guy who's done awful unforgivable things yeah but he's not

[01:49:08] inherently a bad person well he's an interesting person and that he's it would be interesting to

[01:49:12] talk to a lot of bad people yeah yeah they'd be full of things that you hadn't done to tell you

[01:49:17] right but that he's not a kind drive he ties he says pistachio um the tenth episode is his funeral

[01:49:24] yep it is 40 musical performances 60 i mean it's a lot it's a lot we get basically his funeral

[01:49:31] like it's large people giving speeches or musical performances at his funeral and then

[01:49:35] carless husband keeps trying to fuck her in a car or something husband shows up and he's like

[01:49:39] it's me your husband i love you i'm gonna get pregnant now take it to the ball piece where i

[01:49:44] will pregnate you and then i'm gonna pull the baby out of you with my hand yeah because i love you

[01:49:49] so like he is horrifying now we've been hearing all show that he's she's married right but

[01:49:56] he shows up and she is basically like like witnesses this nonsense for 10 minutes and

[01:50:01] she's finally like you know i don't really want to go to the mall deeds i could think i want to be on

[01:50:05] this uh rody tour but they already established that she comes back and she looks happy in the

[01:50:10] episode before luke was like oh man i lost my shot and then she was like no i was happy

[01:50:15] because i got to see you and so like they shouldn't have to like re-establish no but

[01:50:19] the husband shows up you gotta pay it off he wants to go to the mall leaves yeah it's

[01:50:23] the only thing that happens in the episode that's not boring or finding out what pistachio meant

[01:50:28] yeah guys his last word was pistachio it was like a horse horse he liked to battle

[01:50:33] cares so you're forgetting that reg gets his fendi bag of bad he does he does old reg and then he

[01:50:41] does they call back to the first episode of him riding back to the airport when you

[01:50:45] and then we get a cliffhanger yeah fuck this show it's never coming back you know why he could he was

[01:50:51] knocking banging on that door the earth banging on that door to try and get in

[01:50:56] say that like marion lock the gates that's the joke i was gonna make the gate was locked

[01:51:01] they locked the gate fuck oh my god lane

[01:51:09] lane one gotta take it again guys yeah let's take it take two really okay ready

[01:51:13] okay so cliffhanger they're on a plane he's right reg is on the plane right right he's running he's

[01:51:20] he realizes he watches a movie of god i have no idea everyone's about to say let's go crazy

[01:51:26] ben make sure you're not cutting any of this then cut out the previous take okay lane go

[01:51:30] oh of course i'm i'm elaborating now more on this scene just so it drags out okay cool ben

[01:51:35] cut all of it out okay lane sure so he see he watches the movie that miss poots made yeah poots

[01:51:42] and uh you know he just realizes he's in love with her so he runs in the airport because you

[01:51:47] have to have the airport scene that he gets in a cab and he runs to the door and he's banging on

[01:51:52] the door but you know what's happened they've locked the gates

[01:51:59] that wasn't as satisfying as i thought it would be lock the gates rodies forever lock it on

[01:52:05] rodies forever lock it away like paint like quarantine on the on the gates i'm hoping for season two

[01:52:12] me too gentlemen six i would be genuinely surprised had a fun time watching it had a fun time i think

[01:52:19] i'm you know this is the end of our camera crew yep and you're going out as you went in angry

[01:52:25] i'm real worried about him yeah uh i don't know what the fuck he's gonna do with himself

[01:52:30] i don't know he's failed in every way i i'm i'm actually i'm here to help what yeah i'm here to

[01:52:36] help kerman crow what krameron crow kramon crow okay all right okay so let's just start from the top

[01:52:43] okay your ideas aren't fresh baby okay they've been sitting in a filing cabinet for too long

[01:52:49] all right you want music ideas what do you do something about crust punks okay nobody's done

[01:52:54] that before crusties yeah all right uh stars original series exactly crusties get machine gun

[01:53:01] kelly instead of rodies wanting to do something about backup dancers that's cool back seas yeah or it

[01:53:08] could have been max original series what if it was roadhouse the series and it was about bouncers

[01:53:13] i would watch the shit out of that sure you're talking about road houses yeah dude yeah so basically

[01:53:18] an epic original series this is the camera crow but really it's a hollywood in general

[01:53:22] if you're looking for a punch up guy well let's just say i can do an uppercut

[01:53:27] you're like sagat from uh street fighter two yes let's just take a little time to appreciate

[01:53:32] uppercut if you're looking for a punch up guy i can do an uppercut terrible that's why we call

[01:53:37] him the poet laureate it is it's true that's much beal thank you ben thank you as always um

[01:53:44] no so i just i'm worried about cam what do you think he's gonna do with himself

[01:53:48] what would be your prescription for cam it's not make that meth movie no no i say season two of

[01:53:53] ruck that would be like you know some stars like go supernova and then they're gone and like some

[01:54:01] stars just get like kind of cooler and then they like shrink into what's called a brown dwarf

[01:54:06] that's what would season two i think season two erodes he could fix it i i think uh i think

[01:54:12] there's some some greatness in this show i would love a season two at this point i'm fully on board

[01:54:17] bow they're gonna go on another tour to coma we're coming back no season two i mean look season two

[01:54:24] they are on tour the taylor swift type figure and it's them and they're totally other elements

[01:54:28] that would be fine the only problem with that is no one watch this show so what if it's under the sea

[01:54:35] thank you what if it's the space store yeah planet swift and i've already said my other

[01:54:41] things i've suggested that camron crow it does uh adapt yeah take someone else's script

[01:54:46] else's work this show hit yeah adapting someone directing someone else's script adapting someone

[01:54:50] else's book or uh end or uh i think i think he should make an angry middle-aged movie with

[01:54:56] with alex baldwin because i think oh and maren i think baldwin baldwin maren road trip movie

[01:55:01] oh man locked because i think this show is weirdly cynical in a lot of areas but he's trying to

[01:55:08] be too open-hearted and i think he's pushing himself to be the classic camron and he he should

[01:55:13] tap into that anger a little i would worry about him making an anger movie simply because i don't

[01:55:16] want to hear the rantings of like a 50 something guy on like curco bay didn't die for yeah i mean

[01:55:23] like that that you know there's a lot of ways to go wrong i'm not saying i want him to sit down

[01:55:29] and go okay here's my angry movie but i'm saying i find a little too much in his recent work

[01:55:34] obviously trying to push himself to be cute but like the problem is maybe there's just not a place

[01:55:40] for cameron crow in the like culture landscape i think that's the thesis we come i mean this show

[01:55:45] it's top viewership for the first episode was 350 000 people wow and it sank to a bottom of 242

[01:55:56] 000 people not good it's not a lot of people no it's not i mean if we had that kind of

[01:56:01] listenership we'd be rolling we'd be killing it yeah but uh we're a podcast that's actually

[01:56:05] tv show the cost millions of dollars to make it's probably pretty expensive no our podcast

[01:56:09] does cost one million dollars per episode and we shouldn't introduce our new segment uh hey um

[01:56:14] million should i bring the cat into the room with you guys yes sure okay cool boomer boomer

[01:56:21] is currently living let's wait for the segment ben is opening the door here's the cat okay

[01:56:27] yeah hey boomer boomer oh my god the cat's scratching at my windscreen

[01:56:37] lane did you have fun on blank check i loved it yeah this is great uh ben do you want to remind

[01:56:41] us what the segment is yeah did you watch the whole thing because we told you to or had you

[01:56:46] checked it out before uh i want there was a part of me that wanted to still although i felt kind

[01:56:51] of burned from vinyl that i was like it wasn't what i wanted and so it's like i don't know if

[01:56:55] i want to watch another music show and get let down guys we have a third music show coming out very

[01:57:00] soon called atlanta and that one's actually good oh i'm really excited there's also denis leary's sex

[01:57:05] drugs and rock and roll that's so bad that is thank god i didn't have to watch all of that for this

[01:57:11] podcast because i might be actively griffin the name of the segment is called uh blank cats

[01:57:17] it's called blank cats i got to write a new song right so we have a purely white cat here and

[01:57:21] lane if you here's a sharpie if you would like to write a song on the back of this draw on the blank

[01:57:26] cat yeah okay so start scribbling away oh it's not happy with the you're writing too hard let's try

[01:57:33] to write soft it uh lane thank you for being here of course thank you guys for having me thank you

[01:57:37] for coming in every week i was really really nervous you dick i don't know guys now you did

[01:57:43] great you did really great hey here's here's five common points for the i was dreading this

[01:57:47] episode and because of me oh my god i just rolling i couldn't sleep no i've just uh you know i don't

[01:57:55] like this show and i found it a slog but you know it's pretty pretty good and it was a great episode

[01:58:01] i mean roti's back i tip my hat to rotis with a gentleman six and a wink in the eye

[01:58:07] i can buy cam buy cam it's sort of sad every time we say goodbye yeah like we're kind of

[01:58:14] tailing off because like the last thing is often not the best thing we're kind of like all right well

[01:58:18] we're done with you and when you find when you spend this much time with one filmmaker thinking about

[01:58:23] them and watching them by the end of the run their style becomes pretty oppressive whether or not

[01:58:28] you like it yeah whether or not the last couple of things have been good especially this guy

[01:58:32] yeah it's just like it's a little it's a little much this is a little we did we there was a

[01:58:36] deep dive speaking of deep dives next week oh yeah we're going under the sea well no first

[01:58:43] a palate cleanser a ben's choice i don't know if we've announced this officially we have not

[01:58:47] it's another ben's choice palate cleanser and it is ben would you like to announce the movie

[01:58:53] yes i would it is uh 1995 i believe uh film starving starving starving no he looks pretty

[01:59:01] well now he's doing pretty well in that department it's uh starring one stephen seagal in under

[01:59:08] siege two and uh yeah so next week tune in for bender siege to dark podcast

[01:59:16] uh this is the art that pat reynolds made oh my god it's great it's been hanging onto the

[01:59:21] side of a train yes i can't wait to see it uh thanks to pat reynolds for all the artwork he's doing

[01:59:26] for us and then the week after that is the official premiere of podinator judgment cast yeah

[01:59:31] uh mini series to vote i know the works it's rough of kevin crow we kept the two out of that

[01:59:36] one because we didn't want people to think that there was a first mini series they had to listen to

[01:59:40] so it's called podnator judgment cast uh prana two the spawning um thank you for listening yes don't

[01:59:49] forget to vote for the chick on amazon dot com backstash pilots it'll still be voteable by the time

[01:59:54] this comes out next monday yeah uh yeah here's the final installment of uh griffin's tips for

[02:00:00] watching the tick just please just vote forward go to amazon dot com backstash pilot season

[02:00:06] we did it five star rating uh just do it and then when the button comes up saying lock the gates

[02:00:12] make sure you're pressing oh yeah if you don't lock the gates the whole thing doesn't work

[02:00:15] because here's the thing if you don't lock the gates behind you all the votes will will run away

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[02:00:42] yes 100 but they're all sold out because they there was one extra seat on each spaceship oh no we

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[02:01:04] when you do that you do um lane where can people find you yep oh yeah oh plugs oh my god i should

[02:01:12] write a we should have written a plug plugs through written a plug thing you can always write one

[02:01:16] that's true i could try uh yeah we just uh we just got a facebook now sweet we have a uh we have a

[02:01:23] e p coming out october 7th it's called let's be sad together perfect title so there's that time to

[02:01:29] change the title to you too uh yeah and you know twitter play my good night american novel all

[02:01:36] the back howl it can be found on bandcamp yeah is that correct yes yeah we have records for that band

[02:01:41] too uh they're great people listen to them thanks buddy if you like uh the theme song and everyone

[02:01:47] are for new songs that sound kind of like that perfect um fantastic uh this has been rhodes

[02:01:57] we we podcast we did it life is a carnival life is a carnival we'll never we'll never have to do it

[02:02:03] again uh david is holding his arms up all afil saying yeah we're all gonna give him a hug

[02:02:09] we did mention the ron whites body is embalmed in the end of this episode and taxidermied and it's

[02:02:15] standing up i don't think we hit his arms out but it's obviously just ron white standing there right

[02:02:20] we did talk about yeah i think we didn't talk about it but now we have great we talked about a

[02:02:23] lot before we record because we couldn't get over and it's a real phenomena that happens uh yeah

[02:02:28] yeah there you go in puerto rica yeah do you want those commercials the tourism

[02:02:32] commercials for porta rica i think so we're at the end the guy would sing it go in

[02:02:36] porta rica and then luke wilson would say the coverage rising great in porta rica

[02:02:41] runs great everywhere i like rising porta rica um are we still recording yeah ostensibly

[02:02:49] all right so now it is time for us to lock the gates yep and say goodbye goodbye goodbye can thank you

[02:02:55] lane thank you lane goodbye rhodes goodbye benny and call me i'll help you goodbye jerry goodbye penny

[02:03:02] lane goodbye uh uh loy dabbler goodbye goodbye to all our fans goodbye phil goodbye phil and as always

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