Romance with Rachel Lang - Attack Of The Podcast

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate sand! It's coarse and it gets in between my fingers!

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone, welcome to Attack Of The Podcast. I'm Griffin. I'm David. This is our podcast

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: where we investigate the second Phantom Menace movie, the sequel to the Phantom Menace. Yeah.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Star Wars Episode 2. It's a Star Wars movie. You insist on calling it a Phantom Menace movie.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It's George Lucas' unfinished Star Wars saga. I mean, I just... It's just you're so attached to the Phantom Menace.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. That was the original and best. I was trying to think of an example, but I guess most of them don't work.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say what you call Dark Knight a Batman movie. Hmm. It's a Nolan Batman movie.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they call that the Dark Knight trilogy, which is so annoying. Right.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate... Well, this is a whole other podcast, but I deeply hate the fact that the third one's called The Dark Knight Rise.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so stupid. Because that's like... It's like sequelizing the sequel titles specifically.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. It would be like if you made a sequel to the Phantom Menace called The Phantom Menace Returns, or The Phantom Menace Strikes, or something like that.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. It'd be like if George Erick got off his butt and made a third Star Wars movie and it was called The Attack Of The Clones Again!

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Return of the attacking clones. Yeah. Attack of the clone strike back.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's stop. Okay. We have a guest this week. What? Yeah, Rachel Dolezal. We previewed it last week.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We did. We talked about it a lot. Half right. Her name is Rachel. That's true. Rachel Lang. Hi, Rachel. Hello. I'm Rachel.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Our former trivia teammate. Yep. What teams were we on to get? We were on Vin Diesel Pig in the city.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think... I'm not sure if Rachel was on that one actually. I think that's when we all started to drift apart.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I really fought for that name so hard and then I came and I was gone. There were like multiple ballots where Vin Diesel Pig in the city was the runner up.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, two seasons in a row it was the runner up. There was Two Fast, Two Mama, Ten BN. Probably our best name ever. Pretty good one.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: William H. Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. That one was incredible. Yeah. That one was like a total out of nowhere smash hit.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Remember? You scribbled it down and started laughing and I was like wait I don't even get it and then I was like oh Macy is like the store

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and then I was like oh that's actually really good because imagine if the parade was just William H. Macy.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And imagine him at the front just with a little baton. The grand marshal. Beaming. Beaming.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I just couldn't let it go and maybe I'd seen a picture of William H. Macy that day and so I was just thinking about him with his mustache.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: We were reading that Onion article that's one of my favorite pieces of comedy writing ever which is like ten different names for William H. Macy in different cultures.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's written as if William H. Macy is Santa Claus and each culture has a different lore.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: William H. Macy it's one of my favorite pieces of comedy writing in history. Rachel. Hi Rachel. Hello.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You are only the second guest we've had on this show. That's true.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's an honor and I would never have invited myself and I'm so glad that you guys thought to invite me and I did not demand to be put on this project.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't demand? You didn't demand. But you wrote us a plaintive and moving email.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a real plea, a cry of passion and attention.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And memory. Yeah for how you felt about this film and this romance, this sand.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the word? How does it get between your fingers?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's coarse. Yeah this coarse romance. This sandy romance.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the important part. We're after weeks of putting it off. This is the romance episode.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting into the romance which is perhaps the quote unquote emotional core of the film.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess so. Is it? Well it's supposed to be.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like this huge thing that had not even been, there's no, I guess there's a little bit laid out in the first movie.

[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But the second movie. Are you an angel? Right. The second movie it's like this is the central conflict of the movie.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And it can interwar between like being a Jedi and being in love.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah now we have danced around the subject because we didn't want to blow the load.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We knew we were going to talk about this at an episode length.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This plotline is not very effective for either of us.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And was not when we saw the film. You were Rachel.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We were gross teenage boys. We were gross teenage boys.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I was 13 years old when I saw this movie four times in theater.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_06]: 2002. Yeah and I thought it was the most beautiful love story I had ever seen. Ever.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think I still thought that until about the year 2007.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Was there a rewatch at that point or did you just?

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I had seen it a lot since then.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And me and Rachel before the fight we're talking about John Williams' love theme and how much you cared about that.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that really contributed to my misconception of.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a misconception. It was your conception.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So my incorrect opinion of how beautiful this love story is.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a whole feature on the special features about love. I don't know if you guys watched it recently.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure I watched it at some point maybe not recently.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I watched it at 8am this morning.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. It was great.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So across the stars is the main track.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Across the stars is the love theme.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You had sort of intense fandom specifically for that track.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. I went to see John Williams conduct the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: When you were about how old were you?

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I think probably 14. I think he came by the next year.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a year your love for their love was still lingering.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. I'm sure I watched the film before I went to see the music played live just to get a taste of like the recorded track.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_06]: If I could compare it with the live orchestrations.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And they did not disappoint.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I cried. I absolutely stopped and cried.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Wet in public.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll add that I saw this.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I was in a full audience but no one in my family would come with me.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was there alone.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. H40. Well, I guess yeah. That's all of it.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I was very cultured.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It is what was I going to say?

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to ask so if this was the transcendent romance for you in 2002, what was it topping?

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like did you feel that way about Titanic or like ever after?

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think about like the romantic, the big romantic movies of are you?

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Was this the first one where you felt that strongly about a love in film and cinema?

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I feel like I would absolutely say that it was.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first one. You'd never felt this strongly.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I loved Titanic.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's one of the, I think it's the second VHS I ever bought.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_06]: The first is Miss Congeniality.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, I loved it, thought it was great, was barely allowed to watch it because there

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_06]: were boobies in it and there's one thing that my parents don't like, booby.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Attack of the Clones could have done with some more boobies.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It does have that midriff bearing section for the Feynman.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So artfully cut off.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was going to say in the arena at Genosis, the pillars look a lot like vaginas.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, even the actually, I was noticing this too.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_06]: The whole platform that they're on is covered in vaginal imagery.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben was shaking his head.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You have noticed this.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_06]: They're vaginas.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_06]: They're vaginas.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I asked my girlfriend.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_06]: They are vaginas.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_06]: We are big vagina experts.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_06]: We know what they look like.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Those are vaginas.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's two women watching the movie together, both of whom have vaginas confirming that

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I am not a dirty minded boy.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That I am on the money.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben, I say as I point at his face.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You have an introduced Ben by the way.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh God.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Producer Ben, aka producer Ben, aka the Ben Deucer, aka the poet laureate, aka the Haas,

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: aka Mr. Positive himself.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello Fennel.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello Fennel.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello Fennel.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I missed the vagina imagery.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I also did but I wasn't, I wouldn't, I just need to remind myself what it looks

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: like.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember what you guys thought.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: What a vagina looks like.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You forgot what it was.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, one of those things again.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, they look like the, it's like a part of a human body that looks like the

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: pillars in the arena genosis.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would be a lot of care.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But made of flesh and not stone.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean it's not bringing any bells but anyway.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll Wikipedia later.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we'll Google it, you and I, David, later when we're done.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: In this small booth we're in right now.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: There's no windows.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You and I close the door.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a detail.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Young romance.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Well yeah, but you in the email, you, kind of an essay.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, I might want to find it actually.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, you guys talk.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I was overcome with passion.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, because we have to address several points in this.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, you wrote like, I'm enjoying the show a lot.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got no Tecoclones.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a very strong connection to this movie.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to explain to you my bonafides and then went like, I understand if you

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: don't want to guess but just putting out there I'm ready to talk about it.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And we immediately went like, we can't deny this.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to have a ratio.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's some detailed points that we skimmed over here.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So you went to the concert by yourself?

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I did.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And I remember that I was crying and then I...

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot, like a lot.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot, like tears.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Like many tears.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Like my shirt got a little wet, you know?

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, oh God, I don't remember what I was wearing but I know

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: that it was like something that a sad suburban girl who was pretty fat

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_06]: and near Pittsburgh would wear because they thought it was a nice dress up

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_06]: outfit to wear to a concert.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I made my dad a pretty cheap guy and I begged and I begged

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_06]: and I begged to get the extra like $50 thing where you got to meet

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_06]: and greet John Williams.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And he did.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But he didn't come with you.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He just ponied up the 50 bucks.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: That would have been another like $70.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So I went and I stood just like shaking in line as like

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: mothers introduced their like trumpet playing sons to John Williams.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And it was amazing but I felt, I was like, oh my God, I don't play an instrument.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't belong here.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_06]: This is awful.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I finally got necked in line and I got a big sweaty hug from John Williams.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Conducting is hard work.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, post conducting.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So he worked up this, yeah, oh yeah.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a real, that's a lot of vigor.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: He was drenched in sweat.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't remember what I said but he signed my copy of the CD.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Of the Attack of the Clones.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I had the one that had Yoda with the little lightning force ball that he's collected.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And I still have that.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That signed by J. W.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I love John Williams, by the way.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I love him on any DVD that he, for a movie that he composed, like he always like, he talks

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: like very, very passionately about what he's doing.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Even if like we were talking about sometimes he ripped himself off a little bit.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he, I was watching these featurettes this morning.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Very invested.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_06]: And he has the most intelligent things.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, he's the only one who really like understands what storytelling maybe is.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: His movie is like the primary form of, I mean his music is the primary form of storytelling

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: in so many movies that you've worked on.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It is like that the music is what is guiding you through more than anything else.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: In this movie I would say the audience would not know how to feel about things at all.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Where the music not there.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to read a couple of things from Rachel's emails.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: One is that you saw it four times in theaters, wrote fan fiction for a school assignment

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: in Miss Garlington's eighth grade language art spot.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You got to get back to that.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And then she went on leave in the middle of the year with no notice.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry if we can bleep out her name if you want to.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_06]: No, no keep it.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where she is or if she still exists or...

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Did she give you a good grade for this?

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Or was it like you handed in the work and then she vanished?

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That would have been even better.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I'm not going to say that I'm not responsible for her leaving.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: But I wouldn't say it was because my work was bad.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I definitely got no lower than a B.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And I only know that for sure because my first C was in geometry class that same year.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And that was a devastating heartbreak.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I have to ask because David historically for some reason hates fan fiction.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a huge fan.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I love supporting the arts.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you listen to our fan fiction episode?

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I did listen to your fan fiction episode while I was cooking dinner.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Boy, did it get hot in there.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: What was the nature of your fan fiction?

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us a brief summary?

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that's right.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Sadly it was not erotic at all.

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a battle.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_06]: You know there's a line you may remember in Attack of the Clone where Obi-Wan says something

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_06]: like why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a great line.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought oh this sounds like it's foreshadowing or something.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It feels very weighted.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thoughtingly obvious foreshadowing perhaps.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Even at 13 I was like this pounding in my head.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's sinking in.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_06]: So I wrote a battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_06]: It took place I know on like grassy hillside but there were also some rocks and I remember

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: it was like...

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like the places where Anakin and Padme roll around.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They do roll around.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it might have been on Naboo.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_06]: It's totally possible.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember that there was a lot of crunching of bones in that story.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, I was getting pretty dark.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Considering that mostly they'd probably just be chopping each other up with like laser

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: swords.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that maybe like I didn't understand what a light saber does to a body.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Were they using lightsabers?

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_06]: They were but maybe the crunching was like a hurtling of rocks that was happening.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah sure.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know they could blast each other around with force, shoves.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I was inspired by the Yoda and Dooku force shots.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They could also just punch each other in the bones that was an option.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean just because they have lightsabers and force powers doesn't mean they won't.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing, they fight in a very limited way considering they're like you know wizards.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't they just like crunch each other up with their hands?

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: With their force hands?

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like during the battle on Geonosis it takes so long for any force to really

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_06]: get used in an impressive way.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_06]: You're like what is even the point of this training?

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It's somewhat unimaginative.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: One other thing from your email, when you went to the concert and wept openly you made a lot

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: of awkward eye contact with an older woman sitting next to you who you later ran into

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: at either Marshalls or TJ Maxx.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you yet later unpacked which one it was?

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I am leaning toward TJ Maxx.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And you decided to engage this person in conversation.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: She was nice and politely pretended to remember me.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes I said oh you were at the John Williams concert.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: We looked at each other a lot.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And she just sort of was like uh huh.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_06]: He's great.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_06]: That's John Williams.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: That was it.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I went on buying oversized polo shirts.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah man, 2002.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Great time for me basically.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the thing, I'm older than you guys.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I was 16 when I saw this film.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right we were 13?

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I was 13 when I saw it.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was more of a grown up a little bit.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know but I hated the romance too.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 16 year old grown up, you and Anakin.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So grown up.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Two super fucking mature 16 year olds running a pain in the ass.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think me and you were probably uh,

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Sympodico on how we felt about this romance script.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It did not uh, it did not work for me emotionally at the time.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not dislike it at the time.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I just felt neutral.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I went oh that's how the story is progressing.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It just felt like it's like oh yeah this is sort of unnecessary.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_03]: There needs to be some kind of conflict.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh yeah I know they're laying ground for whatever.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Later problems.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right whatever movies he wanted to make that he never got to.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about this romance.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't work for us.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel it worked for you at the time and now you're implying it does not work for you anymore.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It does not hold.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I'm 26 years old now.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Congratulations.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_06]: 26 and a half oh my time flies.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And I feel that even since high school I've like realized that movies that I thought were amazing are actually pretty bad.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You work in a film?

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I work in film.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_06]: You watch a lot of movies?

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I watch a lot.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean basically I'm like an adult and not a 13 year old and I like sort of have a basic understanding of storytelling and emotions.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I see in retrospect you're like ah.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: There's some structural there's some groundwork here.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: You know issues.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like a you're a builder checking the foundation and you're like this isn't gonna let you shouldn't buy this house.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I've reinvestigated and realized that it's pretty awful.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_06]: By the time I was like oh my god this is amazing it ends on this beautiful secret wedding.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_06]: That's true.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was great.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was great.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the secret wedding.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I love the secret wedding.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think these secret weddings actually kind of cool because yeah it's like one they're not talking to each other which really is a secret wedding.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It really improves everything because the talking is really where things fall apart.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_01]: George has fucking said that he views these as silent movies and I say in response put your fucking money where your mouth is.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's totally true because that shot of her like holding his like metal hand yeah and then like the sun is setting and like it's all in you know that's good.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Beautiful.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_06]: You feel like they're at like George Clooney's like house.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_06]: They probably were.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Like Como.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: George Clooney's potbelly pig was probably still alive at that point though.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's potbelly pig Max who I like to think about a lot.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I often think about the fact that George Clooney used to live with a potbelly pig called Max.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He and Kelly Preston dotted it together and then Kelly Preston left him right.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait Kelly isn't she married to John Travolta?

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Did she date George Clooney for a while?

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She also dated Charlie Sheen and they broke up because Charlie Sheen shot her with a bullet.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's 100% true.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Did he fire that bullet from a gun?

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool thanks Charlie.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He shot a bullet in a gun and shot it at his girlfriend.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Charlie Sheen he's great.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Kelly Preston good run of boyfriends.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah seriously now she's with Travolta no problems there.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Loves women.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: All right okay you might conceivably work with John Travolta.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Never.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The list of people who will never hire me is growing episode by episode.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_01]: All right we have to talk about this romance.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well this is a theory I want to throw out.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay all right.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben's just laughing because I keep being like all right so let's actually talk about this.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What would happen if we turned attack the Cleans Into a silent movie?

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If we you know fucking convert it to grayscale.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Why does it have to be black and white?

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Can't be color?

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know just the old time he was like a ding dong to you.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Ding dong ding dong.

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Ding dong ding dong.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: No but you like cut all the dialogue out and use limited title cards in which you rewrote

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: the dialogue to make it less wooden.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the movie would kind of work?

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably because Hayden Christensen is such a horrific overactor that that will probably

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: work if he wasn't talking.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_03]: All the like you know all his facial contortions.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right right he's doing so much with the face.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely agree.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It would be weird to see a silent movie though where like the production values were so splendid

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and there were these like massive like computer generated fights.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: In black and white.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Where he's like in silent movies you sort of think of like you know sort of people like

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: swinging each other and then like it cuts to black and one of them is falling on the floor

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: or whatever I don't know.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You speed up a little so it's over cranked.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah exactly.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_06]: The black and white would actually work really well for the whole the factory, the conveyor

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_06]: belt thing you know.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_03]: The factory that is basically a silent movie and it's like yeah it's like out of

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: a Harold Lloyd movie I think you said on an earlier episode the whole R2 and C3PO.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The head swaps.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Jones and around.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Jones and around.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Jones and around.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do a whole episode on the head swap right?

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah one episode on the head swap.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin and Padme.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so we talked about the beginning of this a lot already last week and the week

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: before where like.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to stop fucking talking about it.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to quickly like there's that scene at the beginning where Anakin is like basically

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: just saying Obi-Wan like.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Right the elevator scene.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so in love with Padme she don't know who I am.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we got that.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You're hitting Christian since he sounds a little loofah-rig-no-ee right now.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: What if loofah-rig-no played Anakin's character?

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey look Pugger.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Pugger I love him a lot.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's that thing really early on where she turns off the camera in her

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_03]: bedroom because she doesn't want him to look at her in the bedroom.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't want that either.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_06]: No!

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she made the right choice.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_06]: She totally did.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you guys think there's any symbolism in the fact that the two.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_06]: The worms?

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_06]: The worms these girthy slimy worms.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you're getting to this.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: God female perspective this is what we needed on this podcast.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Crawling up her body.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Crawling up her body all up in her bed trying to kill her.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he like he removes them without touching her like there's this whole thing

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: he can't like touch her for a long time.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_03]: When do they get like Jesus I just rewatched this movie and I don't even remember

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: like when it switches from her being like your gross weird teenager stop bothering me

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: to like oh we're actually in love with each other.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I think it sort of starts when she's packing her own luggage.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_06]: This is a person who has body goblins who will sacrifice their lives for her

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_06]: but she's packing her own luggage that looks like she bought it at JFK.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: She bought it at the terminal.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She showed up to the airport with a bunch of garbage bags.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_06]: All of her headdresses.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a guy by a suitcase later.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So she's packing up her suitcase and he's floating that little ball

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_06]: and is like whatever complaining about something and I don't remember what he says.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he's always doing.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember what he says but she turns and she likes him and she goes

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Annie you've grown up and like he dares at her and then we get like

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_06]: another beautiful wipe to whatever happens next.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And we've talked about it before the movie does this really smart thing

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: where it ping-pongs between like Obi-Wan solving the mystery

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and Anakin and Padme hanging out just hanging out.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You never say on one for more than like four minutes.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's just like don't yeah because it's like the movie knows

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: like okay this Padme stuff really sucks but don't worry Obi-Wan's like

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_03]: you know fighting Django Fett and he's got a spaceship chase

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and like there's gonna be stuff to kind of move it along.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I have started rewatching only the sections of the film that pertain

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: to our subject for the movie.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Not out of laziness because if I watch the whole movie details

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: you lose it immediately this movie is much harder to grip.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on to then Phantom is I think it's got no stickiness.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It really doesn't.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's that scene and they go he accompanies her to the meeting

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: with the Queen.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Right well first they dress as refugees.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah right they get on the transport.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_06]: He is dressed like a refugee.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_06]: He has like dirt on his stuff and she's still wearing a headdress

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: that she's just covered with a fancy lace thing.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah she can't chill out with the clothes.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: She never can't which I admire.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure I know Padme's got her yeah that's her vice.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you're in hiding anyway Rachel.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: She's nothing into being in hiding though because she keeps

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: like defying the like why don't we just not go anywhere.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: She's like now we'll go to this like retreat in a boo no one will find us

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_03]: and then let's go to Tatooie no one will find us.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I also think every time she says the word senator she says it super loudly.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a senator.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel just quickly before we move on.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes Padme Dolezal.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes Padme Dolezal.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll take it back.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I take it back.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I rewatched the scene after we talked about it and it's like oh my god.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Her hair is teased.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Her hair is complete.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But also she is brown.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah like she's very tan.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Right and I think you might be right that it was just the Sydney sun.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_03]: My bad Sydney sun and bad makeup job over the sun.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Because Anakin looks I was watching some special features too

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_06]: and his make like them feature ads and stuff and his makeup is really dark

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_06]: and weird and inappropriate for a white person to have on there.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was digital video and they might not have known how to like.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it might just have just been that they were like yeah how much

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_03]: makeup do we need to put on these guys because this is digital video

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_03]: it's gonna be way more like we're gonna see everything a little more clearly.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a perfect storm of all factors.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay so they're hiding out like common peasants.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And she asks like a tough question.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_06]: She's like it must be hard like giving up whatever like you're not allowed to love

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_06]: or like swearing your love to the Jedi.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is like news to us basically.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You might have inferred it before then but this is us.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I inferred it but I'm a genius.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it is.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To the common viewer.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_01]: This is new.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time we the audience is directed to people.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: She's saying like so.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Can't.

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is such a like shitty thing to say.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like walk out to a paraplegic and going like

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I must suck not being able to walk places.

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Or even just going up to say like a priest or someone

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and being like what's it like not having sex.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So what's that like?

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh I never think about it.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I don't know.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You mean the thing that like my job is defined by basically.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's like the first thing she says to him on their trip

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_06]: together which is nice.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: The nice way to eat.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she's trying to deflate the tension.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: She's just reminding him like you're not allowed to be in love.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You creep.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she's dealing with these new feelings.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_06]: He is a you know a taller more grown up person

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_06]: than the last time she saw him.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think he's a handsome man?

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like 13.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He has sort of a teen idol kind of quality to him.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's a great question.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you find them dreamy or do you find the bond they had dream?

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And their forbidden romance.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say all of the above.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Fair enough.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I found him dreamy although like the more I watched I remember

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: being really grossed out because I thought his fingers were too

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_06]: long.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought they were creepy and spider fingers.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So you prefer the robot hand.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Reply to us hashtag spider fingers.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah spider fingers yes or no.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If you agree with Rachel spider fingers.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I thought they were disgusting.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_06]: So I was really happy when he lost that one hand it was

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_06]: a great improvement.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Five down five to go.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know Natalie looks great.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks great.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially once she's out of that first dolazall costume.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She does settle like the hair is back to her.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: She's doing a reverse dolazall.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: She's slowly turning back into a white white white.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like they give her sort of a softer more inviting

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_06]: costumes as the movie goes on.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Apart from the whole nightgown thing that's like a

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_06]: but you know.

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah and then in the gladiator arena she's

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: she's got this.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I mean it's like almost like she's in her

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_03]: workout clothes.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure yeah she just randomly chooses to put on a

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_01]: sleek flexible jumpsuit right before they stumble into

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: a giant action set.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_06]: She does put on a shawl above that I was noticing

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_06]: she puts on a holy shawl true on this desert.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They're on a hot desert planet like ruled by

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_03]: insects it's probably not shawl appropriate weather.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to get that shawl game.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Keep the look together.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a look.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny that Anakin is never like you wear a lot of

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: clothes like he never calls her out on it.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I just got this one fucking robe that I dyed black

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: in my sink.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_03]: She's like calling him out on being you know

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: chased he can't be like yeah well what's it

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: like wearing so many stupid clothes.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Well he does I mean he makes fun of her

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_06]: for being a politician.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes there's a lot of discussion on how he

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: thinks politicians suck and like the

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: universe be ruled by a tyrant.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Well he goes for him.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite dialogue.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot about all of this.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like oh I don't know like one guy

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: should make all the decisions there I

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: solved your problem.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: No first he says I think all the people

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: should sit in a room together and discuss

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: how things should work out and she's

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: like yeah that's what we do.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever been to the Senate?

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You live on cars.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you read a newspaper?

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe in politics.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think I should do?

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They should sit in the room and

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: negotiate.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what that's the fucking system.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like but then how come it

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: doesn't work?

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like well sometimes people don't

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: agree and then his response is well

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: someone should make them agree.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So would then now know.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would she be attracted to this man?

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like an idiot.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a simpleton and he's a child

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: like about this stuff.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't thought things, what is

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: attractive about it?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I think her last boyfriend who she

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_06]: mentions.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes he was now an artist.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Paolo the artist.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Paolo the artist.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think maybe she needed a

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_06]: change of pace from Paolo who was

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: in this whatever senator baby boot camp.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He was in the young Republicans

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: program or whatever.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This is an important point to note

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: is their hideout.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So they go to the queen, the queen's

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: like you should lay low.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a new queen looks all same

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of finery as Padme.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She's about six and a half years old.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: She's probably like 14, 15.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She's good.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I like her.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And Sao Bivel's still there like

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: tearing his hair out.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like you should go here

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and Anakin's like wait what?

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have say in this.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like that's true.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm at Georgia security.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We should listen to the Jedi Knight

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's like he's not a Knight

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: he's just an apprentice.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah she really shuts him down.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a weird hot and cold thing.

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: She's nagging him back.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_06]: For sure a power play going on

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and I love it.

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And very much in public, like in

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: public.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just that she's trying

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to cover her emotions.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: She like shits on him.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So like a weird degree and then

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: when they're alone.

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: She's right too because he is

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: an apprentice and God knows why

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_03]: he was put in charge of this job.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Like.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's a little shit.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he sucks.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And his ideas are bad.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: His dad, his fucking Jedi dad

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: let him go out of control.

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone needs to like rain him in

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But she goes I know this great

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: place we can stay.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Cut to Obi-Wan.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Cut back to

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: here's the place and it she's

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: like oh this is where we used

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: to go on our retreats

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: from school.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: A place that can be directly

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_06]: connected to me.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_06]: If someone were trying to find

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_06]: me I've been here many times

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_06]: before.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah everyone.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like using your phone

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: number as your password.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the most obvious.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She used to be the queen.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well we know she went to that

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: one school that produces queens.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Where did that school

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: consistently go on retreats

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: because school was so tough.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We could take a trip to T's

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: DC for the weekend.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No we're going to go to this

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: lush forest and ride

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: ball sack butthole creatures.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Those things are bizarre.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_05]: They look like ticks.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah they're like giant ticks.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we also talk about.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I argue they look like

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: ball sack.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we talk about the fact

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: that they go back to Naboo

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: after the life changing events

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: of Phantom Menace.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is years later and there

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: is no sign that the Gungans

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_03]: are involved in like policy

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: making except that Jar Jar is

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: whatever like a junior

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: senator or something.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of that.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Why isn't he there with the

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: queen.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is there a Gungan.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They hold the orb up together

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: boss Nass.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Peace.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm a dollar and it's

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: like oh finally we're

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: united people and in this

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: one it's like staying your

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: fucking river.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't see the Gungans.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I don't know what

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_06]: to say.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_06]: They're staying under.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just I just it's

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like the whole like one

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_03]: percentness of Naboo in general

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and like how everything has to be

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: a palace basically

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and like it's not helped by this

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: retreat.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: OK so this retreat

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: she talks about her ex-boyfriend

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Paolo.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Paolo.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot his name is Paolo.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The opening of the scene

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: this is my favorite first

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: lines you can ever have for

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: a scene.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Obi-Wan's investigating

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: hard cut to the two of them

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: on a field.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes I don't know

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: the opening line of the

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: scene is I don't know and

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_01]: he goes come on you know

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like no I don't

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like I'll use my fucking

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Jedi mind trick if you don't

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: tell me and she's like OK

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: his name was Paolo

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: so he's like grilling her about

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like come on come on

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: there was one guy

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: right.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I would love to watch a whole

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_06]: movie about where Paolo is now

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: and like that should be a

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: spin-off.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I would 100 he should be

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: played by Oscar Isaac.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh he'd be great.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: God he'd be so good in a

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Phantom Menace movie.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't talk about how

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_03]: she inside Bibl obviously

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_03]: we're having an affair the

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: whole time when she was

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: the queen though.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: No question.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Well why isn't that address

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: but I saw people just like

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: the concubine like that's his

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: actual role.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This is an important point

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: why is she attracted to Anakin

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: well she's been spent all her

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: time with like fucking

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: stonky old dude and Jar Jar

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Bank and racist aliens

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: you know like here's one

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: person who's vaguely her age

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah that's true

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's a little girl

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_01]: thrown into politics with

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: aliens and old men

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_06]: he's kind of a bad boy.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that I've literally

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_06]: heard him referred to as

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_06]: a bad boy by Natalie Portman.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Very excited in a feature

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: retches like

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Hayden he's a bit of a bad

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_03]: boy.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you can tell there was

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_06]: real chemistry with them just

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_06]: not on camera just

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: they saved it all for off

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_06]: screen rooms alone

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_06]: but like all the day is there

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: is that a thing that was a

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_06]: thing like officially or

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_06]: he did.

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Com was my home page

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_04]: your home page great.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_06]: and my mom was very surprised

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_06]: when I started dating a lady

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_06]: this year so

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_06]: she just should have been on my

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_06]: computer a little bit more

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_06]: could have figured it out

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_06]: but yeah she talks about him

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_06]: a lot in a flirty way in these

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_06]: feature retches in like an

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_06]: unguarded way

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_06]: it's very giggly.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Good for you Natalie how old

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: is Natalie when this movie is

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: being made.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: No she's not that young you

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_03]: keep thinking she's too young

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_06]: because she's playing like a

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_06]: 24 year old or something.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember yeah which is crazy

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: insane insane

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: looking at him

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Paolo is an artist I want to

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: harp on this for a second.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys talk about power we

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point did not know

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that artists existed in this

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: universe we've seen no sign

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: of it for a culture that is

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: a galaxy that in

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: sections is so decadent

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: right like Naboo these fucking

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: palaces and like people sitting

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: on the thrones

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: right fruit fruit

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: digital fruit and then we see

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_01]: these fucking plans like tattooing

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and everyone's struggling to live

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like these are circumstances

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_01]: which art would exist

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: classically historically yeah

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: 21 21 21.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh all right

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I think drinking age in Australia

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: 16 so she would have been

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_03]: they start drinking when they're

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: babies and that garbage pale

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_03]: of a country I'm just kidding

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Australia's great.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: What kind of art do you think

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Paolo does because throughout

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_01]: these two films space art.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We never see a musician right

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: we never see paintings

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: no like the

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: decorations at these various

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: homes are just like

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_06]: we see one

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_06]: sculpture in the Jedi temple

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember noticing the bus

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_06]: there's oh we see the bus

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_06]: but then we also see the big

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_06]: sculpture warrior yeah

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_06]: so baby Paolo's a sculptor

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_06]: an official sculptor for

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_06]: the Jedi temple on Coruscant

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Hayden Christensen also 21

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: they're the same age

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_03]: at the time they were both born in

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: 81

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben is showing us Hayden on

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Tiger beat and the cover of

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Tiger beat.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_06]: It looks really cute.

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah very cute

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: N-Sync shocker port are they

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: really over?

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Spider-Man true love

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Kristen caught in Toby's web

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Bow Wow's big secrets

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Steel Alexis Bledel's beauty

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_03]: styles a lot of good stuff

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: they got a story on O-Town

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah they were the stars

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: no we were the stars of their

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: liquid dreams

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: are you still looking this up

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: there?

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I was just looking at who he's

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_03]: dated but it's really just

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Rachel Billson you know

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_03]: that's Hayden Christensen's

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: like major romance they're

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: still together they have a baby

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: the baby is called

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_03]: baby yeah it's called Briar

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Rose which is the

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: that is the name of Sleeping

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Beauty

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_03]: bizarre.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_06]: All I'm imagining is this baby

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_06]: with insanely long fingers

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_06]: and fish lips

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it came out with man-sized

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: fingers.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: No Rachel Billson's a beautiful

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_03]: woman I'm sure she contributed

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: to that baby's beautiful

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: the ending.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Just because I've done so much

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: defending of Hayden Christensen

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: outside of this one film

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_01]: on this podcast

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: well really just for life is a

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: house.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And Charity Glass

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah Charity Glass

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: she's good in Charity Glass

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to point out that

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Han Christensen is perhaps

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: even worse in this

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: than he is in this

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: in the film Jumper with

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel Billson.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right where they met

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I have never seen Jumper

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh Jumper's a catastrophe

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah which is weird because

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Doug Leiman directed it

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's a good director

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and he's better

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: at big budget

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Special Effects

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and stuff the most people

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think perhaps Hayden

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Christensen gets lost in movies

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: of this size

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and should stay on small

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: character dramas

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah or maybe just not work

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: anymore like he does now

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah just take care of a baby

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um that's for the best

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_06]: He talks his you know

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_06]: you're talking about his accent

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_06]: in this movie and

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go back to these

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_06]: special features

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: No but this is what we need

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_06]: He talks exactly the same way

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah that's just his voice

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But that is his voice

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but in the special features

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like more charming

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: because he's not trying to seem

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: serious totally

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and also he's not rapping

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: his you know tongue around

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: this terrible dialogue

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just George Lucas

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we keep not mentioning this

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: someone else wrote this

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: screenplay with George Lucas

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it seems Jonathan Hale

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's right

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he was a writer

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: on the young Indiana Jones

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Chronicles

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So he's sort of a Lucas film

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: like stable guy maybe

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and just polished up

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: some of the dialogue

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But enough to get a credit

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I know cause Stoppard

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: we've noted this

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Stoppard

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: noted playwright

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: also did a polish on some of the stuff

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He's done polishes on so many

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: He's yeah

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he was worth the money this time

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_06]: It's insane to think that

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_06]: this is what polished is

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fascinating to think like

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_03]: what did this look like before

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I sanded

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: it's coarse it gets between your fingers

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright they go on this retreat

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and they have discussions about politics

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And the nature of politics

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They have discussions about Paolo

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_03]: What else do they talk about

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well there's the moment where they're standing

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: uh

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: it's when they talk about sand

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: she's talking about

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause this is important moment to talk about

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's the craziest thing

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the craziest thing in the home movie

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She's leading them through

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's going this is where we used to come on retreat

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_01]: so it's familiar to me

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: this and this and that

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and we used to lie

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: on the ground in the sand all day

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: like she's like

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: like this nostalgia moment

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and he just goes

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I hate it

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Now to be fair

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: he grew up on a planet that is entirely sand

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Too much sand

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Makes sense that he wouldn't like sand

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Dare I say it too much sand

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't say

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: which he maybe should have said

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_03]: like

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_03]: sand reminds me of my life as a slave

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He says it's coarse and it gets caught in my fingers

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: and he

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Hating Christensen says the word course

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_03]: in the way

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You've never heard a human

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: pronounce the word course this way before

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes like you like control

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: don't you

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if it comes to this like

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit of a 50 shades thing

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he is like

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he starts touching

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Wipes her arm

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He like does like

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He wipes a booger off her arm

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Put more on her arm

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like kind of

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of like

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Trying to call her bluff

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You know go like

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Huh?

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Well he says it's not

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Not like everything here

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is soft

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yes

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Smooth

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Christ

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Soft and smooth

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He says he loves her

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's implying that

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He loves her and thinks she's beautiful

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because she's not like sand

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey man

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the kind of talk

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That'll get people married

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Secret married

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so he goes soft

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And he touches her arm

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And she like

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of looks

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But she doesn't stop it

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So then he starts touching her back

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like staring at each other

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: While he's like playing

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like fucking octopus hands

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And the small of her black

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he just starts kissing her

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Octopus hands

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile the entire theater

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Has gone to the bathroom

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Because this was so horrendous

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like alright

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a long movie

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I need my break

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite joke

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: In the entire movie

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: This is maybe the one thing

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: In the film that I laugh at fully

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That isn't said by Dexter Jets

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Or Waddo

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Or Elon Seuss Baginao

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: My holy trannity

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a joke delivered

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: By your main guy

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny Dubs

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Johnny Dubs

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait who the fuck is Johnny?

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The two of them start kissing

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Across the stars blares

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Da na na na na

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the most triumphant version of the themia

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes wait

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And the music cuts off her problem

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he does almost a record

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes da na na na

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he like closes the bag

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember that killing at the theater

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw it

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: People go ballistic

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I do not remember that going

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The only thing I remember

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Going ballistic for was Yoda

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah me too

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels self aware

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it feels like Johnny Dubs

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Knows where the joke is

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And is making it

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure yeah yeah yeah

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: As we were saying

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the best storyteller in the movie

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah hide some personality

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And cleverness into this movie

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: In any way that he can

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Sneak it in there

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And he sorta does it

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like we can't do this

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: She does for some reason

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He should be the one who's like

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a Jedi

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The whole loud

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_05]: She's more mature

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a galactic senator

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got a lot to lose

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got a lot to lose

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: In this world of constant emotions

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Dating the chosen one

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_03]: In the Jedi

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Seems like that could work out for you

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but it doesn't feel like

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Outside of the Jedi council

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyone knows he's the chosen one

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No one's talking about it

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's just some peon to everyone else

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Some guy

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay so then they just keep on hanging out

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_06]: There is

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to mention this deleted scene

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Where she takes him to meet her family

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And they have a meal together

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of this scene

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_06]: There are two deleted scenes at her home

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_06]: What?

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Griffin

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_06]: The first deleted scene

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Who plays your family?

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_06]: I do not know

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_06]: You guys would probably know

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He does it back to the future part too

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he plays the mom in the dead

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_06]: He does a great job

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: This is his best work

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: They meet her mom

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Her sister

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And her dad

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And also her nieces

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And they have a meal

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Which looks to be purple potatoes

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Just boiled and peeled

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey man they're also skinny

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Enhanced them on the boo

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: They gotta keep their diet

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_06]: So he shares like a knowing glance

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: With the dad

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Because they're like

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Are you in danger?

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_06]: No I'm not

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I promise

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_06]: He goes actually

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_06]: She is

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And they sort of like smirk together

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Him and the dad

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Where it's like

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Ugh Padme with her

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah we know better

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah right

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And then

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Then there's like a gossip sesh

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_06]: In the kitchen

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_06]: With the ladies

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Where Padme comes in

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_06]: They're like why didn't you tell us about this guy

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you never bring a boyfriend home

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And she's like he's not my boyfriend

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god mom

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And security detail

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It's fabulous

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I wish he was in the movie

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Because

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_06]: According to Rick McCallum

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Producer

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Not producer Ben

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_06]: No not producer but

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Perdurrick

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Perdurrick said that

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_06]: George thought there was

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Too much emotion

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh classic

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I think I literally wrote the quote down

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_06]: So just give me one second

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And we can reference the fact that

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: In the Phantom Manus

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_03]: George was complained about the amount of emotion

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: In some of the scenes where

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin is a poor slave

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry because he was crying too much

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: About the fact that he would never see

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: His mother again

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_06]: He literally says about this scene

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And the scene

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_06]: The next scene where Padme shows him

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Her bedroom and like talked about

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Her work with like charity groups

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_06]: On other planets

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: This sounds really boring

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel's produced a notebook

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: With a verbatim quote written down

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_06]: He said it's emotional

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It gives her a lot of character

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_06]: But ultimately it wasn't necessary

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: But we get like eight scenes of her

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And Anakin rolling around

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah the kiss

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The kiss is aborted

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the first scene

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: When they get to the retreat

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's pretty fast

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like we can

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So they just keep on doing

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The most romantic things in the world

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Rolling around in fields of bases

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a beautiful episode of the Bachelor of the Bachelor

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, sunsets and water

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And fancy meals

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And giant tics

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He shows off for the fancy meal

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_03]: He levitates the pair

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a note

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I want a quick sidebar here

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So when they cut to the scene

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: With the fancy pair cut

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: At the beginning of the scene

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: A lady comes out

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And places two plates

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And serves the food to them

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Who the fuck is that lady?

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this retreat like

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this like a resort?

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like she's a robot

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's my question

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that like because they were traveling

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The two of them alone, right?

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like they're just like

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Hanging out in this

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a handmaiden?

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: What the handmaiden was with

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Was she like

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it like a secondary handmaiden?

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you ship one out to me?

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a reserve handmaiden?

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I think they're in like an exclusive restaurant

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Under different names

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And this is like the back room

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_06]: That you like reserve ahead of time

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like Mickey Mouse and Marilyn Monroe

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are the names they use

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Or like Atlantis and the Bahamas

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like is it like a resort

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they're like taking care of

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Every other food

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Super moody

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Testicle creatures

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so there is a point

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We should just talk about the fact

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Anna can ride

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: A testicle creature for her amusement

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he rides a ball-tech

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like standing on it

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like balancing it

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's terrible CGI

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks bad

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, Annie

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he falls over

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And he crashes

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And he grabs her

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like oh fuck, Christopher Reeve

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like lying on the ground

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're all thinking

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Lying on the ground

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like oh no

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Annie, Annie

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And she like runs in her dress

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: In her headdress

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And her like

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It almost collapses

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Under the weight of everything on her

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she turns around

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He's giggling like a lunatic

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And they start rolling around

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: In the field

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a lunatic

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So they're doing all this

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Romantic stuff

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though they've made it very clear

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They can't

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's only a matter of time

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I do like there's that one scene

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Where he's meditating

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Which actually suggests some

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Like inner turmoil

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The other things do not

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_03]: After his nightmare

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_06]: We get the scene of him

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Sitting on

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Trying to chill out

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And being sweaty

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_06]: In his bed

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Bare-fisted

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Just bare-

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Not wearing a shirt

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Not wearing a shirt

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Tiny little nipples

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Mom

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_06]: No

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Mom

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And then the scene ends

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he's meditating

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we've talked about last week

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_03]: How it's

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That spurs them to go off

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And see his mom

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_03]: He can have his big emotional moment

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Now Rachel

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about in the past

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: When we were doing the

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The Phantom podcast

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was our focus

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The Phantom Manus

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You talked about how you

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You liked the Phantom Manus

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But really for you

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That movie is about Shmi

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You had a big Shmi thing

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I love Shmi

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Shmi's great

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We all love Shmi

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I love Pranila August

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I've never seen her

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_06]: In another film

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But she's fantastic

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_06]: She's great

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_06]: She's a great lady

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And I actually wanted to touch on this

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Klee Glars thing

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Please

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I know last week

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_06]: You guys were saying like

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, like he bought her first

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And then

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that they fell in love

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Like in the markets of tattooing

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, Shmi's sort of independent anyway

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: From Watto in the Phantom Manus

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Like she lives separately

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Or seems that way

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_06]: And in Attack of Clones

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_06]: We hear that like

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, she's going off and picking mushrooms

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Off these like moisture things

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Like she's like doing things by herself

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It's fair to assume that she was also doing that

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_06]: When she was still a slave

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Like going on errands for Watto

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I get what you're coming to

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That she, yeah they fell in love

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And she was like

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: FYI, I'm a slave

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was like

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll take care of that

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You think he

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Quote unquote bought her

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But like he basically bought her

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that then

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That Shmi's actually like a femme fatale

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Who is like

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: How do I get out of this

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I need to work a random man

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Around my finger

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I never thought about that

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I earn my freedom

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Well she sure got her comeuppance

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_06]: If that's what she's got

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_03]: God push me

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well because Watto presents it the opposite way

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But Watto also doesn't know anything about love

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey you got a butt

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I heard even marry her

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That was the afterthought

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that happened down the road

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But Watto wouldn't fucking know

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If it was happening under his own penis nose

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he wouldn't

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't sense it

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That thing doesn't have a good

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: A good sniff for love

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There's the

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The fire side conversation

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he's like so angsty about it

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he's like

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like fucking tearing me up inside

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: This is why the movie

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't work

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you can never believe

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That you would be in love with this kid

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's so annoying

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a brat

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And he said

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what does he say

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_06]: He says like

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_06]: He says something about being upset

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_06]: About the kiss

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_06]: You never should have given me

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah yeah

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a whole thing about that

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The kiss will turn to a scar

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And the scar will drive me crazy

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He says that

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The one kiss will turn to a scar

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_06]: This is an abusive relationship

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_06]: From this point on

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_06]: We don't really realize it necessarily

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's mostly abusive of the English language

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But can I make this point

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're talking about the interviews

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of fun in the interviews

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he acts like a 21 year old

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's joking around

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And stuff and he's like

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes great I get to carry lightsaber

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fun

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then every scene

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He's so self serious

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess it's because

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh I'm playing someone

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is a Jedi

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And has been trained to do their motions

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's being directed that way

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you know

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But the correct performance

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: For this film

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Would be someone who like

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's left alone

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: With someone vaguely his own age

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Is like reverting back

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_01]: To his emotions

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And being fun

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And not just dour

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And like other than the scene

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Where she asks him

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She puts him on blast

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: About not being able to love

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he's kind of smirking

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Where he's like

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well Jedi's aren't allowed

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: With the love

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Or show compassion

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Which I consider unconditional love

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the rest of the scenes

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He's always so fucking

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Sour lemon face

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would this be the guy

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: This be the guy to break down your wall

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But once again

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Sob Bibles the only guy you have around you

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Limited options

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And Jar Jar

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So he has this nightmare

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_01]: About Shami

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like come with me

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta figure out what's going on

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No she is like

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna go figure out

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on with your mom

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like I don't know

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like well I'm going to Tatooine

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And you better come

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_06]: No no no no

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_06]: He says that like

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: He's gotta go rescue her

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And she sort of is listening

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And being supportive

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh I see

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And he goes

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry I don't have a choice

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_03]: But she comes with him

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: She's like well I'm gonna come with you

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like no you can

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And she's like well I'm going

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Meets his family

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_03]: His new family

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Who he's also meeting

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And Waddo

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Meets Waddo

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: His old family

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She knew him already

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah she spent a lot of time with Waddo

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah you know that Griffin is a

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: An Anakin birther

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And believes that Waddo is the true father

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Of Anakin not the force

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I've heard this theory

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll buy it

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He slays some Tuscan raiders

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_01]: She is not put off by this

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like Anakin's fine

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he tells her that he murdered

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Children and she responds by giving

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03]: A big ol hug

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like you shouldn't be so hard on yourself

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she's got some emotional issues

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Because he comes back

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And we know that Shmi is dead

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Because he brought her body back

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: True

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's being really emotional

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_06]: And he has not yet revealed that he killed

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_06]: All these Tuscan raiders

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And she goes

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Annie what's wrong

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And you're like well I mean

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_06]: My mom just died

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah why ask

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_06]: In front of me

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I carried her body back

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Just go like

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Even if you just know those details

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Like

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true it's true

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: She's kind of like

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought we'd moved on from that already

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_03]: What else is wrong

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't make him restate it

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh what

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean speaking to the idea that she has some emotional issues

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She was uh

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Pushed into being the queen of a planet

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: When she was 12

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: At its time of crisis too

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So A she definitely peaked too early

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's gonna fuck a kid up

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true she's where that weighs on her

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: If you have that much power

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You're never gonna give that much power again in your life

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Not only was I a queen

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was like the hero queen

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Who like united this planet's races

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And pushed back an invading force

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was only 12 years old

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: At 24 she's some old dame

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah right

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_03]: She's a senator

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_03]: A gridlock

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What were you gonna say like

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I was gonna say

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I read that she is the one who instated the two term limit on

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Being a queen of an ability

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_06]: What a hero

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_06]: She's just so she was just too precocious for her own good really

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_06]: She's promoted herself

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She should have been dictator for life

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_03]: As Anakin would have preferred

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He likes dictators

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Like to dick her taters

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: No definitely not

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: No?

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright so after that they go to Geonosis

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They get a message from Obi-Wan

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that he's been kidnapped

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I tracked Jan go down

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He's on a planet called Geonosis

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Come over here and then his

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_01]: His hologram is interrupted by destroyer droids

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's pretty funny that the camera keeps rolling

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to know if it just like

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Literally just keeps going and then it's just you know

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think anyone ever accidentally sends a hologram of them like peeing

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You think there's like a naked gun

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We never see the other side of that

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're gonna say we never see a character use the bathroom

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That is also true

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: That is never discussed

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But uh

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_03]: We never see like someone like standing on like the camera thing

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And like talking into

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We hear them talking to each other like in audio forms

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But never we never see what it looks like to be my message

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a major point

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So they're like

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on a Geonosis

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna change into my tightest Trump suit

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: My smortest shawl

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: A whole bunch of battles

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: At least it's white too you know

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good sun

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Temperature control

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And sand and dust looks really cool on it

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very coarse though that sand

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They make it rough

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Gets everywhere

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Not soft like you

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: In your arm

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: David just touched my arm

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to mention that while I was describing the touching earlier

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't stop touching David's arm

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: To show what it was like on a podcast

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to illustrate my point

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay they make it through the crazy droid factory maze

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Right

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_03]: There's all that but that's not romance

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to all that

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No no no but here's the

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: This is

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They make out during the factory

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So then they're captured

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They're captured by the bug people

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course of course

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And now the two of them are in this like chariot

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_03]: They're being prepared

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They're chained up

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You know whatever

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The pit

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But remember there's this scene where they're talking to each other

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like Anakin if they

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: They think they're gonna die

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_01]: This happens I just want you to know

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't reply with like I love you too

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's like

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought we agreed that

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah remember earlier you said

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And she said we live a lie

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That would be living a lie

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And she said the secret would destroy our lives

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh buh buh

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And she says I actually like this line

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You like anything would be better after the line

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: No I think this one line is cute

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think this one line gets to like feeling like an actual young romance

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Shut up dickwad

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes I thought we agreed we weren't gonna fall in love

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Because this and that and the secret would do this

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And would eat us up and destroy our lives

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Just hating christians since delivery is worse than griffin

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like verbatim kind of going like

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah daddy gotta gotta

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah daddy gotta

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Destroy our lives

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: The point is he ends with and it would destroy our lives

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she sort of like looks out towards like the door of the arena

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And she goes

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I think our lives are about to be destroyed

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That is not a good line

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we wasted all this time on that

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not good

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I like it

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like kind of yeah we know

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why she's saying it

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I got nothing to lose some monsters about to eat me

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like but I do love you

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Portman actually kind of does a good job

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: She's fine

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I think she does a great job in this scene

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She actually captures the emotion of like a doomed love

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The music plays they kiss as the doors open

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're wheeled out to be executed

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I think this is kind of

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: In a very public and graphic manner

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_06]: In a weird way

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Very weird way

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And it also doesn't help that Newt Gunray is up there

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_03]: She's gonna die in front of me

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh right because it's very very passively

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Like offhandedly mentioned that

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh I realize that Newt Gunray is the one who was trying to kill Pat

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Is he the only one?

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Like in one sentence

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That one hologram that gets interrupted by the destroyer droid

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Has like 17 plot points

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Mentioned very casually

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like I got here

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Jengofet he's here in genosis

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Count Dooku's here

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He's been establishing a droid army

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That Newt Gunray is gonna use to unite the four federations

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: To fight against the Republic

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Who now have the clone army

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_01]: By the way

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Newt Gunray is the one who is trying to kill Pat

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no a droid

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Because and we'll get to more of this when we talk about the climax

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Because yeah it's like the trade federation

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's like a robot like a tin man

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So he's I guess he's like the robot

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Federation like the

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh what Tim Boer

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's like what is he like the machinist federation

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a bunch of trade unions basically

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: San Hel Poggleblesser

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah San Hel who's like the finance chairman

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Or something he's like Wall Street

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh is he like the wiggly pale head

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's got kind of a tall alien-y sort of bulbous head

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I read that he is Dooku's master in disguise

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_06]: No wait no no

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Darth Plagueis

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Well Darth Plagueis who was only discussed on Wikipedia

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And probably in comic books or whatever

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He is that race

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay I'm racist

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But no you're not

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah you're racist

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Well but maybe he is him in disguise

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that's nice

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_04]: He might be

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay I'm gonna look it up

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You got me I'm gonna look it up

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Look it up

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah who's Poggleblesser

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Which one is he the bug man

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know him?

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah right right

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So who are they?

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Bug people I guess

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they're in charge of entertainment

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Well but then they're all murdering people

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_03]: They're building like shit

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would the bugs

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Well they have a factory

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Droid factory

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_06]: You've got it use it

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're building some kind of ultimate weapon

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We see like plans for an ultimate weapon

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really hard to make out what it is

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks cool

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But like that's like

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Another day going for it

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels a little like the hud-sucker proxy pitch though

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's definitely what it feels like

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I thought of immediately

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh they go like look here's the ultimate weapon

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a circle

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah right

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I'm saying

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like instead of a circle on a piece of paper

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a circle on a hologram

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And he goes like you know for deaths

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my hud-sucker dream

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You know for kids

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know for deaths

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Hud-sucker proxy is one of my fair moys

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So they get wheeled out to their death

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And New Gun Ray is watching them

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a soccer for like

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_01]: People confessing their love

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right before they think they're gonna die

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Which they almost never are

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you know they're gonna make it

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's perfectly

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin's lightsaber is gone

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this you know

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean one could argue that love

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Helped them power through

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_01]: No question

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually no I don't make the argument

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: No I think that's wrong

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I think the thing to help them power through is

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_06]: She's totally independent

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_06]: The force helps them

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Obi-Wan helps them

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And then the Jedi

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_06]: All the remaining living Jedi

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Showing up

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: She's got a gun

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got a gun

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Where does she get the gun from

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah where does she get it from

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh somebody like throws it to her

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_06]: When the clones arrive

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_06]: But she's like very like

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_06]: With it from the beginning of this

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Execution thing

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got her bobby pin

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_06]: She frees herself

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_03]: She climbs up the pillar

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_06]: First of all she has a bobby pin

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Which seems insane to me

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_06]: That's what is holding up her hair

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Like that's part of it

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_06]: You know there's nothing like a space thing

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that she has a bobby pin

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And that she does the old

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you know sneak it in her mouth

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And then gets free

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_06]: While they're not paying attention

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of stuff going on in that pit

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of stuff going on

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They survive

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_01]: The clones come

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And they take away

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They take away

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin pushes her out of the ship

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause he doesn't want her to be in danger

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like coming with you

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like no and he pushes her out into the sand

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bit of a dick move

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: A real dick move

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And then of course he loses an arm in a battle

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Right okay

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Saves the day

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We're not even like seeing Padme

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Other than like a couple storm

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Clone troopers

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah right

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They gather her

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There are clone troopers in the storm

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And they come out

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They come out

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like we got you

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And they take her away

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Saves the day

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda fights Dooku

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about all this later

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like as they're wrapping everything up

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Cut to the retreat

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: The retreat where she used to go on school holidays

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Secret wedding

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Secret island wedding

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we said it's the one

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It does work

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Art 2 C3PO's witnesses

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They're waitress from earlier officiating

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a robot hand

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy oh boy

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The ring would probably be hard to fit on that robot finger

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause it really scared her

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We just build it on

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Build it on

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Well did on

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And they kiss and that's the end of the movie

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that the last scene in the movie?

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the last shot is the two of them kissing

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Successful romance

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be good if the last shot was just Obi-Wan

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of just sitting being like

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be great

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're trying to present it as like a doomed love story

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Fighting against the odds

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: This we know

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We know that this romance is doomed

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know why we know that?

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Why?

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause Anakin says it over and over again

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: This doomed is going to destroy our lives

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He won't shut up about it

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing most doomed love stories

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like oh god class

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like like tectanic it's like come from different worlds

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a ship and there's another man involved

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is just the two of them being like

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We probably shouldn't right?

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: This seems like a bad idea

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they do and then they're like

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait no stop we really shouldn't

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_01]: This seems like a bad idea

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like just fuck you guys just want to fuck

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're both just young people

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You never get to spend time around

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: People your own age

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about this

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Just have a fun sex time

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And where it's like the movie is like they can't do it

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like why not that seems fine

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: They seem to like each other

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The movies like the rules

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Jedi rules and we're like we didn't know about those

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You tell me Mace Wind is not getting some

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah man Mace Wind you could collect

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You tell me

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Just go around town and just collect

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You tell me Yaddle never gets her Yiddle Yaddle

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I resigned from this podcast

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You tell me Yeriel Puff doesn't go to those fucking queer mien

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on bars

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: A queer mien bath house

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't go to those that glory hall place in space

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I really was hoping you would make a Kit Fisto joke

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Kit Fisto

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Has never been Kit Fisto

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He has six fingers too let's not forget

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Six fingers

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a scene where Kit Fisto goes like

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a spicy fist

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about Kit Fisto

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He's getting I think we're going to do

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: 10 episodes just on Kit Fisto

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's our next series

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Chronicles of Fisto

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Fist and Kit

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not going to happen

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's happening

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: The UCB is firing us as we speak

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Rachel

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill the song

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes or no

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes maybe

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: How does the love plot of this film

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: work for you today?

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Were there any nostalgic pangs remembering

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: what it felt like

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: or did it all just lay cold like a bunch of dead

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Gungans

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I think

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean definitely leaning toward dead cold Gungans

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah the only like twinges of like nostalgic came

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_06]: from the music and maybe from this

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_06]: like you're saying the death

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_06]: the execution love confession

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like okay maybe

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_06]: and then

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_06]: and then you know the rest of the movie happens

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's all still kind of bad

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause the stakes are actually high in that moment

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like oh they actually might die

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: them confessing their love means something

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're not just creating artificial blocks

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Right I mean every scene of them

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_06]: before that talking about love could

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_06]: you could just take the dialogue from one

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and plop it onto any of the other ones

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_06]: and it would be not different

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_06]: like them in the

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: what is it the refugee like cruiser thing

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: and like them at the lake

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_06]: like you could switch any of those around basically

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_06]: and it would be the same thing

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely feels like a movie

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: made by someone who hates love

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_06]: George Lucas met his wife at a business conference

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: His current wife

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: His current wife

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause he was married in the 70s or 80s

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and his wife left him for a man

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: who was installing stained glass windows in their house

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not know that

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: stained glass windows really

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_06]: An artist like Paulo

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Paulo

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: No

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: His wife was his editor on his first couple of movies

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Ah ha, ah, THX and the like

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, THX American graffiti

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he didn't work for a while

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that later

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people theorize that she was kind of like

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the missing element

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that she was maybe the humanity to his work

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I see, I see

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he was not with his current wife

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: when Attack of Clones is being made right

[01:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: No, he meets her later

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't think they met until 2003

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Or...

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Ah, alright

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe they were having a conference about

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Attack of Clones probably

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that makes...

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a man who lived in a castle by himself

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Adopted like three children

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Built with stained glass

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just like

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need love

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I can raise children on my own

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I make art, I'm fine

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and then now it's like

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh George, you got

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on the podcast, George

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You bash yourself in the corner

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta make them way about love

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh fuck, what does love sound like?

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I talk about sand

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if it was like

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_03]: There was four pages of sand talk

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And Stoppard was like

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we lose all of this?

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And Lucas was like, no way

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, alright

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna do what I can here

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw the...

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I also saw Attack of Clones

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Four times in theater

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I only saw it twice

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe three times

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The fourth time I saw it was the IMAX

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Re-release

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Now at the time IMAX technology

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Was limited

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And so there was a hard cap

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: On how many platters of film

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: They could run into the projector

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, so it sort of switches

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Between IMAX and regular

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, not even that

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: They just cut it out

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You're saying they just edited the movie down

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was...

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They could only have a film be a certain length

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Because the film is about two hours

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And twenty minutes long

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Two hours and twenty-two minutes

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is about

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Forty-five to an hour

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Like too long

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it had to be two on the nugget

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's to be two minutes clean

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, I'm saying for IMAX

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Limits

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Two hours

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Total

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like interstellar is three hours long, I think

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's close to three hours long

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And there was a big thing about how they had finally had the breakthrough

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they could project three hours worth of it

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Seeing interstellar on an IMAX was

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: What am I...

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's so fucking good

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's great

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Interstellar is the best

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But the IMAX film is so big

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There's only so much that they can store

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: In the room with the projector

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, okay, that was

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Near three hours

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Dark Knight was like two and a half

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they kept on pushing it up

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: To get longer and longer movies

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But this time this is one of like

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The first major films re-released in IMAX

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't released in IMAX at the time

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like five months later it came out in IMAX

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And they fucking cleavered

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: 20 minutes off the film

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The IMAX cut

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see it

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Me too

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Guess what they cut

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the romance?

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember it being like

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: 30 second versions of each scene

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder who did that

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder who was responsible for the editing

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like whether it was Ben Burt and the other editor

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Or if like an IMAX guy was just like

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Ugh

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Martha Lucas

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: She came back

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Marshall Lucas

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she came back

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Edited his film with house permission

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He divorced her again

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that why Temple of Doom

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Is supposedly so dark?

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Because George Lucas and Steven Spielberg

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Have both just gotten divorced

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Or we're going through divorces

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The difference is that like

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Spielberg quickly remarried

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And found new love

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Lucas went on to

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Hate all people

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_06]: For like 25 years

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, well

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel, thank you so much for being on the podcast

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, thank you so much

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_06]: For having something great to me

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_06]: You're a great friend

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to see you as well

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I like your glasses by the way

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No one can see but Rachel has blue glasses

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Um

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Just the frame

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So tweet at Rachel

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You're dirty pigeon

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Dirty pigeon

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: On Twitter

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a great Twitter

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone should follow you

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Best on Twitter

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks guys

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just talking about how

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Does it happen with you

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Where Rachel will occasionally

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like favorite tweets of mine from a while ago

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: She's obviously like going through my feet

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I can go on my little sprees

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I recommend it

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I recommend following Rachel

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe she'll follow you

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe you'll wake up

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is a special experience

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Being followed by Rachel

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: To a little spray

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But tweet at Rachel

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Tweet at us

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Tweet at Rachel Dolezal

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Skeleton fingers

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Spider fingers

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Spider fingers

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag spider fingers

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes or no

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Padme Dolezal

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes or no

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Tweet if you want to ship

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Rachel and John Williams

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's clear

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He's married

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There's more chemistry between

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You and John Williams

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Than there is between Padme and Annika

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You and a sweaty John Williams

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Full stop

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I accept that

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, fully embrace that

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_03]: As you fully embrace his sweaty body

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God it was great

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: It was great

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I thrived on that

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You said in your email

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a music video

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: For across the space

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_06]: There is an official music video

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_06]: For across the space

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Is it like a YouTube fan video

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically it's just

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Edited footage of there

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like rolling around

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's literally just scenes

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_06]: From it's like

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's not even just love scenes

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like there'll be a scene

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Of like Mace Windubing

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Like we've got to do this

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And then it's like

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's, yeah

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So John Williams isn't in the video

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The video isn't like

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_06]: No he is in it conducting stuff

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a very weird music video

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_06]: We gotta watch this

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I suggest you check it out

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we're gonna check this out

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But there aren't like slow motion

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like marco-manic shots

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Of like John Williams walking on the street

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Flipping up his collar

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking across the stars

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I would pay so much money

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_06]: To shoot that video

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh man

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: John Williams is really on a high though

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like cause like the year before

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: AI had come out

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is one of his greatest scores

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Great score

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Minority report came out

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Harry Potter he did the year before

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We were just talking about

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: How Harry Potter John Williams score

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Is just like

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I nailed this theme

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright the rest you can just copy paste

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: From the other shit

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah right

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that was like

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: The last time that he established

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Like another iconic theme

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh fuck he got exactly with the vibe of the stage

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he hasn't done it again

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose he hasn't been

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Given a franchise like that

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: To create a theme for

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No I'd say Phantom Manus

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Harry Potter

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: E.T

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Jaws

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Superman certainly is like

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh fuck that is what Superman sounds like

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Raiders, Jurassic Park

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But Superman and Harry Potter

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Had that similar thing

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they were already such big iconic things

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Right right and he like

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You heard it you were like

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The music evokes what you do

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That is right

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_06]: That's right up to the plate

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Alfman did that with Batman

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But other than like

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That like Williams is kind of

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_01]: The only guy who's really like

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck that's exactly what Superman

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like musically

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Hans Zimmer did a good job

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Of Manus Keel

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The over-trait

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What's it called you know

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: An idea of hope

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a great score

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a terrible movie

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Bad movie

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Bad movie

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Bad movie

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Richie, anything you want to plug

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Outside of your toy

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah what do you want to plug

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Can be anything in the world

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to plug one more theory

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Related to this podcast

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is that

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Joe Costinu and Count Dooku

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Hooked up

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Right

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And he got her to delete the

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Kamino shit

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like that upstate New York

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Prison Escape thing

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Two Silver Foxes

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Two Silver Foxes

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Looking for

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Well one looking for love

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: One looking to take advantage

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like no no

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll come back and visit soon

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I deleted those files for you

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like I know I'm just really busy

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: They don't exist

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: They don't exist

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Chakasinu sucked

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: She sucked

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Fire her

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben thought something Chakasinu

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben is currently tangling

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Wires around his fingers

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: No

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Great great job

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_03]: What are we talking about next week

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Next week

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know yet

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know yet either

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We got a good guest

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Who I think we haven't confirmed yet

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Was confirmed as of a week ago

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We got a double confirm

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna throw it to them

[01:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And see what

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: What subject they wanted to

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh thanks for being here Rachel

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully it's your class

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for having me

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you Rachel

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Bye

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for being here Ben

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And Rachel do you want to throw us out with

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: In as always

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah please

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember what we say as always

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: In as always

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We always just on bullshit

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys say something stupid

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The bar is really low

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I've done terrible job for the last couple of years

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And as always

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Fight your fingers

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Cool