Running Scared with Paul Scheer

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check How come the bad guys always have the good podcast? Hey!

[00:00:27] What's the line being replaced there? Cars! They have the good cars. This is a real car movie. It really is. Most of the most cop films I think, yeah. Well you know I think back in the 80s we did not have CGI

[00:00:44] so the ability to do much more than cars was limited I mean I grew up in like the Lethal Weapon Beverly Hills Cop kind of era of movies where the car was just all in and everything is like a cement truck chase

[00:01:00] a cigarette truck chase, you know a car going I mean it all kind of Put them on the L! Yeah exactly, like everything is like a little less than Blues Brothers you know in its scope but it's just like can we crash cars? Can we break cars?

[00:01:15] Can we drop cars? And it was like because there wasn't much more and occasionally you would get something insane like Lethal Weapon like you could clearly tell a building was ready for demolition and like in Lethal Weapon 2 or 3 they're like

[00:01:27] we'll make that the opening of the movie you know it's like that kind of That was like yes it was usually cars a couple shootouts and then if you had an insane budget you got to either use a helicopter Yes

[00:01:40] Or destroy a building and that was the ceiling And I would say though the destroying the building was much more timed with where you were like it was like oh Okay we're shooting in LA and they're blowing up that building

[00:01:52] We'll just make our movie go around like it was happenstance It wasn't like they got to blow up the building It was sort of like they jumped onto a building that was already in demolition We're filming in Detroit and Detroit's not doing so well right now

[00:02:04] Well you know that's all right Guess what we have a third accent piece There's a whole thing like I guess when they did the remake of oh what's that movie Red Dawn Detroit was a come shoot here because we will let you blow up anything you want

[00:02:19] That was like one of their selling points I remember I was reading an oral history also about National Lampoon's Christmas vacation and the Griswold house is either next I think it is the same house as Murtaz house from Lethal Weapon and when they first started shooting there

[00:02:38] Lethal Weapon had just wrapped and the toilet was still on the front lawn from when the toilet blew out of their house which was again a very big moment in the Lethal Weapon franchise Huge set piece Well it goes without saying

[00:02:51] It's obvious but this is a podcast called Blank Check My name is Griffin Newman I'm David Sims and this is a podcast that's usually about filmographies directors who have massive success over their career

[00:03:03] and are given a series of blank checks to make whatever crazy passion projects they want Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they bounce baby But in between many series, our director based many series we often like to mix it up do a little palette cleanser

[00:03:18] and very often in the past we've thrown to our beloved producer Ben and said pick a movie that was in the rotation one that meant a lot to you in your life that you've seen more than any other film Don't try to impress us

[00:03:31] Pick the film that is nearest and dearest to your heart So I pick Fletch and then Clifford and then UnderTesh too and Man Who Knew Too Little Movies I watched on VHS all the time But we're experimenting with Giving someone else a blank check

[00:03:50] Giving other people the check Sure People we admire adore and saying what would you use to cash your check on our show And today we have a very, very special guest who so far has done an incredible job speaking before he's introduced

[00:04:04] and the favorite thing a podcast guest can do He just ran straight into it Well I feel like we set up a very big What could we be talking about? We didn't mention the movie but we talked around it So I feel like this is a

[00:04:18] you're probably everyone's waiting on the edge of their seat to figure out what could this be Which I love It's like the cold open of like a CSI episode establishing the mystery Ladies and gentlemen Before this gets made from a thousand different movies and TV shows

[00:04:36] and the Upraised Systems Brigade Theater Paul Shear is our guest on the show today Well I'm very excited to be a guest on your show because I listen to your show and find it immensely enjoyable It's so good Yeah it doesn't make sense but thank you

[00:04:51] Thank you very much Your Crystal Skull episode really helped me come to terms with that movie in many ways Wow Really? I'm very excited to be a guest on this show because it's such a great question because sometimes people will get a little mad at us

[00:05:08] about that episode being you know, a little more gentle on that movie than some People get mad online about that episode It's funny what the listeners of my podcast, I'm sure your podcast will get bent out of shape out of I think though you kind of like

[00:05:26] like I have a very negative reaction to that movie for 30 minutes and felt very content Yeah right You know, and I think you made me revisit it in a way knowing it had flaws but I was like this is well, it is well done

[00:05:41] and many parts of it are well done but you made me go back and watch it which is I bought like the iTunes like 4-pack or whatever you get whatever their particular charges they make up for it and I've never watched that one

[00:05:54] and I went back because of your episode See, that's crazy Thank you very much, I'm glad we were able to make you appreciate at least one fifth of Kingdom of the Christmas call I'm gonna finish it one of these days I'm gonna finish it

[00:06:07] I find myself enjoying movies that I didn't like a lot more when I watched them in 20 minute chunks Like I did that as well with What was the movie I just did that with Well, I'm doing it right now with Rogue One and I'm like oh

[00:06:22] I thought Rogue One was good Very episodic movie Yeah, well you know in a way I've stopped it at points I've been using it on the treadmill and I'm like oh I like this movie way more than I give it credit for it I'm totally engaged in it

[00:06:35] and I feel like sometimes even Avengers, the first Avengers movie movies that I've had like a little bit of a sour taste in my mouth and I'm like I think if I just watch it piecemeal I can I don't know if it's just

[00:06:48] You're essentially, you're binge watching them Yeah You're turning them into a TV show and binge watching them Well I feel like you know, especially in this like bombastic $250 million mega movie era when you have to sit in a theater and watch the whole thing

[00:07:01] very often times it can just become like tiring Yes and overwhelming and some of these films that like don't work but have interesting elements or pieces or sections if you're just taking like 20 minutes on their own you can sort of appreciate the things that

[00:07:17] you just forget by the end of the film when you've just been like worn down It's, to me I call it the ghost story version of it I'm not sitting there eating the whole pie I'm just gonna have one slice at a time I'll eventually finish the pie

[00:07:29] and I'll be happier for it If I eat that whole pie I'm gonna just run that bathroom and throw up Right Now you picked a movie today that I would argue is like the opposite of that I think the whole value of this movie

[00:07:42] is sort of just living in and hanging out in this film This is from a bygone era where movies could be like kind of like set piece like there's one set piece a little lighter on plot it's a lot of just character hanging out and

[00:07:57] just sort of like being real Yeah, I think that this movie does something very interesting right? I think that you hear this term like the buddy cop movie and there's all these like oh well I think lethal weapon is kind of defined as like the ultimate

[00:08:13] like, I mean free being the bean is great too but it's like lethal weapon I think is the one that's looked up to and it's like oh they add a little bit of comedy this to me is one of the perfect buddy cop comedy action movies

[00:08:29] because I think it's legitimately funny it's got good fun action and the cast is insane like I feel like if there were more movies like this this, the buddy cop thing wouldn't have gotten so tired Well because this movie is not trying to make

[00:08:43] the buddies be these like diametrically different like really polarised two guys were clashing and you know there's a lot of push and pull like they're real buddies They're friends, they're legitimately friends I don't know if there's any other I mean it's kind of like the sequel

[00:08:58] of a movie where it started like it's like Riggs and Murtaugh is number two but it starts off as number one and I know we still haven't told anyone what we're talking about yet but again And we won't until the very end of the episode

[00:09:11] Oh is that the bit we're doing? I don't think so We're never gonna name the movie No but I don't know if you know this Paul I know you say you listen to the show but we are David and I were hashtag the two friends

[00:09:19] it's competitive events we're the only two friends that do a podcast together And once we tapped into that we said why wouldn't everyone do this? Friends who do podcasts together what a good combination and I feel like a lot of the films

[00:09:30] what you were saying, a lot of the films that get lumped in as being buddy films I mean certainly lethal weapon one they don't get along very well and even when you get into the sequels they've obviously gotten a little closer but they're still, they frustrate each other

[00:09:43] and they usually have some second act part where they're sort of, they break apart maybe or they're like opposed in some way you know what I mean? Yes There's usually some sort of artificial rom-com arc to the buddy cop movie Right and 48 hours is always cited

[00:09:57] as a big buddy cop movie it's like A. one of them isn't even a cop B. they hate each other Right But I watched this and I was like this movie's putting the buddy in buddy cop Well I think what you get when you put them together

[00:10:09] is you get comedy Like and I think because they're on the same page so they're working together as like a team not just being like I'm one archetype you're one archetype you know it's like the stare and I think it's just rare

[00:10:22] I can't think of any other movie where I mean it feels more in tone with like a pineapple express than it does with anything else like you know it's like these are people who are friends but even pineapple express it's like they're different

[00:10:37] you know to a certain degree very different right but yeah this feels like pineapple express too after they've like I think you nailed it you said about it being a sequel cause it just opens where they're like they're playing basketball or hanging out

[00:10:52] they're kind of breaking each other's balls but like it's just the movie's just like they're friends okay you got it? great let's move on well the thing I find really fascinating you know you come out of improv of course and you're a phenomenal improviser

[00:11:07] but one of those things they teach very early on in long form improv is like you don't have to create that conflict you'll find more comedy if you agree with your scene partner you know cause a lot of people when they're starting out

[00:11:18] think the funny thing is to be like a stick in the mud and negate what the other person's doing and that's the whole principle yes and and this movie it's just like oh if you start out with the two guys being on the same page

[00:11:29] and they can have fun together it unlocks certain types of comedy you're not used to seeing in these kinds of movies that aren't them arguing about which way they should go in on the bad guy right it's just them being funny people together

[00:11:42] it's like hanging out with friends exactly and should we tell people what we're talking about? yes come on for one it's the title of the episode so they downloaded it but you know they may be thinking that we're talking about the Paul Walker version of it

[00:11:57] well that one comes up a lot in Google even though it was a bomb I mean a forgotten film and I still look at it and this was like a solid hit this was like a reasonably popular movie a double or triple yeah

[00:12:12] I think this movie does not get its due in the pantheon of 48 hours lethal weapon Beverly Hills cop you never hear this movie talked about and that's why I chose here I go I'm gonna say it I mean even though you've downloaded it oh a drum roll

[00:12:28] Running Scared 1986 Billy Crystal Gregory Hines Buddy Cop movie which from the director of 2010 yes Universal soldier and time cop no time cop sorry time cop Peter Himes and with the villain being a very brilliantly cast young Jimmy Smith who introduced me to the whole idea of a

[00:12:54] Columbia necktie to me that was the scariest thing you could possibly do which is like you slip through someone's throat and I guess you pull their tongue down beneath it so it hangs out from the throat hole which they don't do it

[00:13:08] I spent ten minutes trying to figure out how you would do that yeah it doesn't really work it doesn't work how would you how would you pull the tongue all the way down there the physics of it are messy

[00:13:18] yeah you'd have to almost cut the tongue out too there would be a lot of work it would be so much work I don't think it's easy I don't think it's worth the effort I mean look it certainly leaves a lasting effect yeah a hundred percent right

[00:13:32] it's memorably gross but they don't show it which is good and again it's one of those things it's an R rated film they don't show extreme violence as a matter of fact this movie is about cowards yeah that's true there are two good Chicago cops

[00:13:48] who kind of get into a situation early on where they get scared like literally they're like oh fuck we almost died the chief is in over their heads and the chief is like go on vacation then we get one of the best I mean

[00:14:05] we'll talk about all of this but one of the best vacation montages of all time unbelievable I might say number one yeah I mean it is it is amazing and then they come back going hey fuck this we don't want to be cops anymore

[00:14:21] we want to like go move to Key West and open a bar and we basically have a couple more like it's like they're both retiring like you know like you know and leave the weapon it's like I'm over that retirement

[00:14:33] they're both like we both need to just lay low until we can get out and it's the only cop movie I can think of where the cops spend most of the running time trying to decide whether or not to stay on the case yeah it's great

[00:14:46] like the cops almost abandoned the plot of the movie yeah the cops are we don't want to go in there and again one of the reasons why I love this movie is because it seems from it it's coming from an honest place

[00:14:59] like these are you know it's Gregory Hines and Billy Chris tap dancer tap dancer and like an SNL and the TV show soap star they're not like they're not super intimidating cops which I think is also lovely to see like I don't feel like

[00:15:15] you know I don't feel like every cop is you know like you know you know like you know Dolph Lundgren and Jim Belushi like red you know like red heat or whatever sorry short thing but um yeah

[00:15:30] you know and you get like I don't know there's something about it that is like very grounded and uh agreed and I will just say like you know so I grew up I don't know how this movie came into my life but I think

[00:15:41] that was my first question I would imagine how did you discover this movie I would imagine this is how it came in my dad was a great conduit of all things cool for me and I loved Saturday Live I had the Billy Crystal comedy album

[00:15:56] called You Look Marvelous oh wow I should say it the way that Fernando would say it these all are references that are just flying over I'm sure like 95% of your listeners but it's a Billy Crystal there's like comedy album and I love this you know

[00:16:12] I love Billy Crystal Billy Crystal was to me what comedy was so in my dad's like truest fashion I think he saw that this was a movie a comedy that had relatively little violence and no and one scene of nudity that he could cut out

[00:16:27] because my dad had like two VHS players so he would like give me movies like armed in danger so like Eugene Levy and John Candy and cut out like any potential boobs and like Beverly Hills Cop he would make home edits he would make home edits that's incredible

[00:16:41] yeah so when I saw Beverly Hills Cop one and two later on I was like oh wow these are edited scenes because he cut out like the whole beginning of you know Axel Foley's friend getting killed and he was like that was too violent

[00:16:54] and getting shot in the back of the head I didn't see either of the strip club scenes so like I had a whole world open to me after my dad's home edit so I believe that that's how I got this movie and it was on VHS

[00:17:07] I watched it a ton and I did this thing that I've talked about on my podcast before but where I would record movies on like a tape like a recorder like a tape deck thing and I would listen to movies and that I would say

[00:17:24] you know we talked about in the beginning like have you how many times you've watched this movie yes I've watched this movie a lot I've listened to it probably the most out of any movie because I remember having the tape I had the whole movie on tape

[00:17:38] and you know listening I have visceral images of us my class driving to Washington DC on a field trip sitting in the back of the bus listening to Running Scared I remember it so clearly ding dong all right hello hello hi it's me it's

[00:18:02] Griffin from two months from now oh wow you're from the future yeah maybe you know it's a little different from me uh Ben yeah I mean you don't want to be you know you look really good superficial kind of swallot kind of jack kind of good thick

[00:18:18] bussing out of the shirt a little bit yeah I'm wolf manning all over the place um yeah you're wolf manning yeah you can call me griff B okay like the B universe oh sure sure I'm not from a different universe I'm from a different future

[00:18:32] let's not get too knotted up in this I could call me griff 2049 maybe we could call you griff B because you've been using Beachbody oh maybe that's why that's actually not a bad idea so you know my secret that's the difference between me

[00:18:45] and this cock griff over here I hazarded a guess because uh our friends at Beachbody on demand are sponsoring this episode and also hey griff A here please don't use that term griff B come on yeah what have you been doing what have I been doing

[00:18:59] I've been working out on my own clock off my own devices so like a laptop a tablet yeah a smartphone yeah any web enabled device yeah like an Amazon Kindle Fire pretty much anything TV yeah as long as it's on the internet yeah can I ask though uh

[00:19:17] griff B mm-hmm what uh like what regiment are you like is there like a particular like video you're watching on the service yeah yeah look I mean I'm all about branding right I'm the branding king sure and my brand is insanity okay okay but they've got it all

[00:19:34] wait but you're saying no no he's saying he's doing insanity work out that's I mean sure sure we can debate double meaning I was gonna say my brand is also I'm a straight lunatic but I mean you know they've got it they've got P90X

[00:19:47] they got like 21 day fix they've got all the like those regimens you might have heard of 3 week yoga retreat sure yeah um and they have nutritional content mm-hmm health and fitness advice yeah it's a whole package all online and you don't even need to go to a gym

[00:20:04] yeah I mean I don't understand why you're pitching this to me I'm the guy who's been benefiting from this program pitch it to this beta mail over here I was talking right to Griffay I'm sorry you guys are easy to get confused even though one of you is

[00:20:16] just gonna say it yeah a little hot yeah just look for which guy is in a tattered shirt and that's the one you shouldn't be speaking to all right well Griffay Griffay listen hey what's up because these workouts they can be low impact you could do dance

[00:20:31] like it doesn't have to be something intense oh they have to do dance hey dude morning from the future don't do dance they have a variety of like options for like whatever speed you want to go at and you can try all of these 600 workouts

[00:20:44] and the nutritional information for free oh that sounds great um you just have to text check to 303 030 so you check to make sure that you have text you know you get hung up on this sometimes but what you do is you get a free trial membership

[00:21:04] when you text check to 30 30 30 now here's a question what if I don't want to work out uh but I like the idea of being able to watch workout videos all the time like that's just my favorite kind of content

[00:21:18] I mean no one's going to judge you for that except you know perhaps Almighty God but uh right so maybe that's a good angle to sell that would differentiate us from other podcasts sure different revenue stream people who just like

[00:21:29] if you want to just give it a try and just watch workout videos and judge them aesthetically you can do that doesn't really matter all you have to do is text check to 303 030 you'll get full access to the whole platform for free all the workouts all the

[00:21:44] nutritional information and if you want to try an annual subscription it's cheaper than a gym membership yeah so take note Griffay thank you Griffby uh I'm gonna head out this is Griffby talking don't walk through the wall like that oh my god

[00:21:58] I can barely help it one step and I'm already shredding through the country he destroyed the studio he's so strong yeah all right god that was so much fun having someone who has the exact same voice as me in the studio he looks a lot better though

[00:22:10] he does look a lot better I mean I do now I was like a big uh soundtrack kid growing up you know I would have like a CD wallet full of movie soundtracks sure and I would keep the little booklet in there did you like soundtracks or scores

[00:22:25] or both both but I would like to have the booklet and when I was listening to the soundtrack look through it and try to find a photo even if it wasn't that scene was evocative was evocative because I wanted to sort of replay the scenes in my head

[00:22:38] now when you were listening to running scared especially during the sections where there aren't dialogue yeah yeah you're just hearing a car on the L right right or like the vacation montage which is all right that was gonna ask how does the montage play on tape

[00:22:54] are you in your head reconstructing the images by the way it's a great song so it was a pleasure it was almost like a musical interlude I was I'm trying to think of how I did it you know I believe that I just I would just be

[00:23:10] I guess the way that you would listen to a book on tape you know like creating the images I knew it I knew the movie so well I could just kind of sit back and and kind of let it take me for a journey

[00:23:21] these guys are great actors and by the way you take away the images the movie still holds up yeah they just they have such a good rapport in this and the thing you said which I really like that jumped out to me immediately is

[00:23:34] I feel like when you get to this era where like Hollywood is is buddy cop crazy right this is like their whole thing that they're trying to do it's like a pretty economic very viable genre and just becomes like who are two mismatched guys right and put together

[00:23:51] I feel like you get a lot of guys especially when their dudes like Heinz or Crystal because usually these movies will have one guy who makes sense in this type of movie one guy who doesn't right and this movie

[00:24:01] has two guys who feel like odd choices for this type of movie bizarre and very often right very often the Belushi of the film right Jim Belushi of the film will try his hardest to prove that he's not the odd thumb right right

[00:24:15] he'll be like the tough serious guy he'll do like a Clint Eastwood impression he'll try to do his best you know Jean Hackman or whatever to hold his own and I like in this movie these two guys aren't doing the sort of obvious big swing and dick

[00:24:30] depiction of cop masculinity they're kind of just playing their own types sure and just being ok cops and by the way don't you believe it because like one of the biggest scenes where they are beating someone up and again I'm gonna

[00:24:46] I'm gonna just put a blanket statement down and say everyone in this movie is amazing and we'll talk about them all but Joe Panteliano who plays like this guy character Snake yeah they're like that's like the first kind of bust and they kind of like torture him

[00:25:02] but they're torturing him in a way that seems so believable they get him they they they running after him they throw them they get like they get into a tattoo shop right they throw them all that maybe and then and they throw them into a chair

[00:25:14] and they basically are tricking him into the fact that they're giving him like a tattoo like you know it's like and then even their plan with him backfires like but it's like when they are being tough guys they're basically just hassling him

[00:25:27] yeah and at the end of the movie when Billy Crystal does have his big moment when his ex-wife is kidnapped and he's got to show up you buy it's very much the reason why I love like Die Hard as well

[00:25:38] like Die Hard when you first meet John McClain you don't think that this guy is like you know there's something human about him and these guys too like they're putting a crazy situation and when Billy Crystal does confront everybody there you buy like fuck he's like

[00:25:52] this is him trying to be as tough as he can be and that you know in the same way like when Gregory Hines is like on the side of the building gonna like launch into like he like his thing was like he's a window like he like

[00:26:04] they say to Billy Crystal like come alone in this big glass building Billy Crystal comes alone but then Gregory Hines is like a window washer so he could drop in from the ceiling but he seems scared like they're not adept at doing it

[00:26:15] like even like at least John McClain at a certain point like becomes very adept at everything you know they never get adept yeah right this is like the other guys if the other guys wasn't a parody you know like other guys is trying to like

[00:26:31] totally mock all the sort of tropes of these kinds of movies and this is like a fairly grounded realistic movie about cops who just usually aren't on the big case yeah and by the way I would argue that like Wahlberg is

[00:26:46] you don't even have a Wahlberg in this like at least in Wahlberg you get like you know there's like something there yeah I don't know there's something about this movie that is and I think it's rewatchable it's really fun it does have all the 80s things

[00:26:59] a lot of great car crashes you know I mean this they have a whole scene I mean the one of the best I guess heightened moments in the movie is that they create this like they have this guy like

[00:27:15] they're cute like for like for whatever reason like that's where the movie just like takes a one jump out of reality where it's like they have like they have an auto shop at the police department and and they're Larry Hankin the guy from Friends the neighbor

[00:27:29] who again another Heckels he has a great character actor that creates them like a not an indestructible car but again it's so funny it's like this is a car it's essentially bulletproof it's a cat it looks like a cab bulletproof

[00:27:42] they get in this cab and they have this crazy chase that ends up on the L and they're you know they're like cars are firing at them and they're like fuck you ha ha we don't it's bulletproof and then they go to roll down their window

[00:27:54] to fire back but they can't because the car is bulletproof because it can't and I was like I love it it's just fun like I don't know it's like it doesn't like what you said it's it's grounded in the world

[00:28:05] like all right if they were going to create a bulletproof car they're not gonna be able to open windows so they do get away but then they're then they're totally left being idiots again yeah and another thing

[00:28:15] I love about talking about this movie being grounded in the world and I think this is a thing we'll harp on a lot because it's the thing that kept on jumping out to me as like we don't have anything like this today

[00:28:24] but the thing I like about it is they are neither great cops nor terrible cops right they're okay they're good they're just kind of okay I mean they're there they know how to like cause some trouble right

[00:28:36] you know and they know how to like keep on the right side of things they're not inept but they're not rock stars no they're just kind of work-a-day cops right they're big revelation is when Billy Crystal breaks the porcelain thing and it's coke

[00:28:49] but like it's almost by mistake like you know they don't do like great detective work or anything they're they they sort of work their sources and they they lean on folks and they they know how to like run a few hustles right and there's that thing early on

[00:29:01] when the two guys try to mug them and they go like what you think all cops dress like cops run around in like a cop car one of them's got like a gun and like a paper yeah I couldn't figure out what that contraption is

[00:29:14] what was your point no it's just like these are just like two schmoes they're just like cops you wouldn't really take notice of otherwise but yeah and they're constantly getting like they're they're constantly getting found out like they're not like this like they're not

[00:29:30] like when they park in their spot they get they you know they someone comes and spray paint unmarked cop car on them when they try to get right I know which is they try to get a hilarious yeah and when they try to get an informant

[00:29:40] the informant like turns on them when they you know when they they they're roughing up a nun and the nun is not the right person even though she is but she doesn't she's not culpable in it and then I think all that like culminates

[00:29:52] even in their vacation which is like oddly sweet like their vacation is like they're just like fishing and and like like dating girl like seeing women it's like very remembering how to relax you know it feels like they're tapping into something they've forgotten about themselves like oh you

[00:30:10] could just hang out I guess we should start at the beginning of the movie but I just want to make a blanket statement here because both names have been invoked and I I know you've listened to the show but I you know you're not a complete two

[00:30:22] favorites of this podcast are two important things to state about this show one is that we are very vehemently pro-smits yeah we're super pro-smits you got it big no-bits pro-smits by the way you gotta be pro-smits speaking of watching Rogue Rogue one the other day I was like

[00:30:36] man so good oh yeah yeah he just you know pops in five minutes he dusts some like pepper and then you know he's out I mean that's that's the origin of our pro-smits stance is no steadier hand in the galaxy than

[00:30:48] Bale Organa that guy comes in you relax you you were almost like and I actually thought to myself when I was on the treadmill the other day like man I would see like a Bale Organa movie 100% is it just is it him like leaning on

[00:31:00] other galactic senators is it like all back room dealing like what is a Bale Organa movie I want to like bridge of spies with Bale Organa yeah yes yes he has to go get someone look Leah didn't or Leia didn't learn

[00:31:12] it from from no one you know look he's you know he's out in front but he's working deals under the table too you know he's got a you know public-faced private rights you know maybe maybe the movie is just like pursuit of happiness with Bale Organa

[00:31:25] maybe it's just a good father movie love it the other important stance we just have to get out here on the table is there are few things that we love more than putting on a fine pair of Italian pants right if

[00:31:40] we get to put on some Joey pants we are thrilled and by the way some a snakeskin oh hey snake skin can we talk about where this Joey pants falls in your pants yeah because oh 100% yes I put this one up pretty high

[00:32:00] because it's a different pants and we normally see in a way and my at least my and my version of it so really I think so yeah a real weasley guy yeah and he's always kind of squirrely but usually he's faking it better this is a pants

[00:32:16] who cannot even pretend that he has any authority yeah I also just like that he hangs around like you think he's just gonna be the problem for the first scene yeah you know he'll tell her and instead he's just kind of like chilling

[00:32:28] with them for the first half hour of the movie he's their peshy for the first oh yeah yeah he had been in risky business already but he wasn't in midnight run it runs a couple years later so this is yeah he's still early

[00:32:40] in the in the pants career that's I'm saying it's a it's kind of an early role from I would say the other person I mean that I know it's not a official one of your podcast sanctioned no sure but I got to say whenever I see

[00:32:51] Dan Hadea yeah I mean look this cast this cast is insane I know Dan Hadea who always plays a man whose blood pressure is like dangerous like doctor is like just stressed out about the guy's blood pressure and wishes he would take the

[00:33:06] pills do you know this is a fact I've heard this you know cuz it's the ball you know you work on on shoots you talk to the crew you start to hear some inside gossip right people tell you stories that don't usually leak out to

[00:33:18] the public so I don't know if I should be sharing this but but this is true this is a known fact in Hollywood Dan Hadea has never worn a shirt on screen they just dye his chest and back different colors I

[00:33:30] have heard that I've heard that yeah yeah it's a thing it's to make him more comfortable really 100% yeah that's his right or you know what I would argue like Dan Hadea is what every other and I would even play Joey Pans

[00:33:45] is copying Dan Hadea like Joey Pans and bad boys is copying Dan Hadea in this movie 100% this is kind of like peak disgruntled captain yes you can't get a better disgruntled like this is this is where it was really coming into vogue

[00:34:01] this is everything yeah but again like before these movies make the disgruntled captain like too big and before it becomes a cliche and he has like a five-minute monologue chewing the mountain his office this he's just sort of in the background he's hanging around he's like you know

[00:34:16] these are like the right perfect place in the bell curve where it's just the the sort of they've enough other buddy cop films have field tested what works and what doesn't and you're just a cruising altitude nothing has become overworn yet the only one that I will

[00:34:31] say who pushes the limits but I think it's probably the best cop is actually a real cop I don't know if you know I'm gonna mention here but it is it is the real chief of police in Detroit who played Axel Foley's boss

[00:34:45] in Beverly Hills Cop who comes down and balls out any Murphy and I'm I always put him as the number one because that was his actual job and he said the thing that made me goes don't think Axel makes my dick itch when I was

[00:35:00] a kid I thought that was one of the best lines I didn't know I was like one day I'll understand it and I don't even know if I understand I just like it I just like that line is burnt into my head itchy deck yeah yeah no good

[00:35:14] yeah but he is his name is Gilbert R. Hill I only a gill hill I think became the mayor of Detroit at a certain point did yeah you're right yes and oh my gosh and was a real police like was a

[00:35:29] real inspector so I feel like he out of anyone we should always be looking to him for the frustrated police office sure you say he's the right he's the he did it yeah yeah yeah you know I had a

[00:35:43] phase where I was really into the I am to be message boards RIP but never forgotten brutal brutal brutal thing brutal but I was really into that like early 2000s and a thing a game I got really into was I love character actors I think you know we

[00:36:00] do and I would pick certain you know like favorite character actors like Joey pants and go to their ID message board to see what like who's talking about Joey pants on a daily yeah who's logging on just to talk about Joey pants and

[00:36:17] inevitably any character actor I picked no matter how unconventional looking how obscure there would be someone starting a thread with the subject heading like is it just me or dot dot dot and then you click on it and it was he's incredibly sexy right and it

[00:36:35] would be someone just making it clear that that guy was their specific fetish so we're on the same page and I had a I had this thread oh we're not on the same that I always think about about like even Hadea where it was like 25

[00:36:48] women going like I can't explain what it is I mean he's got an animal energy that's actually the tufts of hair coming out from his collar there's a flavor for everyone for everybody he's like a really smoky soup it's like sort of like

[00:37:03] the flavor like really hits you but you're like well I'm I like it though yeah gotta get that idea I thought you were gonna say because I was saying this to Ben before we recorded how handsome Billy Crystal Billy Crystal weirdly sexy

[00:37:16] in this movie hot yeah Billy Crystal by the way when you see this movie you go oh I get it I get why this guy was I get why this guy was I star I get why you think at it and by the way you get

[00:37:27] like he's he is very cute but like also like there's there's something in this movie that I don't know I mean it's the Harry Met Sally it's the it's like that era Billy Crystal boom perfect yeah he's he's aged nicely I think he's he's

[00:37:44] this is him in his 30s is sort of him because he's got a little around the eyes and you know his hair is receded a little bit but it is great beard is really he looks like a I don't know he

[00:37:55] just looks like someone you could go see like a what's who's an 80s Oter like go see my dinner with Andre with and you know sure dinner there's a very good no I just think there's a relaxed energy to this performance that I think

[00:38:10] of Billy Crystal as you know the main criticism you can throw up Billy Crystal aside from the fact that he still does impressions of black people is is that like there's a sort of needy like desperate validation you know wanted kind of energy to him sometimes like this

[00:38:28] sort of like endless showman sort of vibe right but this has the same thing that like when Harry Met Sally does where it's like this is a weirdly confident Jew like we're not used to seeing these on screen you know this is a Jew feels

[00:38:40] pretty good about what he's got and I will well here's what I'll say about that specifically and I think this is all and this when I watched it recently again I was like oh when he does his characters like and again this is a time when like

[00:38:56] Eddie Murphy I keep on going back to Eddie Murphy because I feel like he was but you know the King of the 80s car movie yeah right when he's doing his characters it's like showpieces and these characters that he does in this movie

[00:39:07] with the small little like phone stuff right so it's sprinkled it's subtle and it also feels real like you know like I don't know if I believe that Axel Foley is going in you know carrying a lunch bag going I got this or I got

[00:39:22] the herpes medication but this is just mainly on the phone like he's like he's basically doing prank phone calls to help get there something very subtle about doing something that is I think in a lot of the times in these movies are very much like showpieces like

[00:39:38] all right get ready sit back and relax and it feels like a real guy be trying to be funny rather than a movie start looking for a pop you know it feels very you know I feel like this movie is the impractical jokers of the

[00:39:50] buddy cop world they get a bunch of friends having fun making each other laugh and that's where them being friends really helps is because when he's doing characters and stuff you cut to a reaction shot of Gregory Heinz just being like I like this guy yeah

[00:40:03] I read I read some interview with Peter Himes who directed this movie and shot it and shot it yes he shoots his movies where he's where he was he didn't say much except like I just thought it'd be great to have Gregory Heinz and Billy Crystal

[00:40:17] being a movie together and I was right they totally loved each other like that was all he had to say yeah so I guess they hit it off well we did a what you call a we did time cop on our show and then Blake Harris

[00:40:29] and Blake is this amazing like he wrote this great book called console Wars and he gets these really good oral histories and so he got Peter Himes to talk and I said please just get any information about running scared and right and he talked to

[00:40:41] him and it's very much similar it's a gay that was a fun movie but I think what he has a good talent for is finding the right vehicle for actors and I say that in the sense that he was like he knew how to make

[00:40:54] time cop work for Jean-Claude Van Damme more than any other Jean-Claude Van Damme movie in my opinion like that that movie is more of a movie than most Jean-Claude Van Damme movies if that makes sense yes and the other movie he made with Jean-Claude Van

[00:41:08] death is the like second best Jean-Claude Van Damme movie they had each other they were on the right wavelength for some reason he knew how to work the athleticism in better than most yes yeah you know like like Jean-Claude's gonna do the splits now and like don't

[00:41:22] worry I've like I've constructed a whole set pieces gonna make sense for that yeah it really yeah Peter Himes I think is you know he's an interesting director because he also directed one of my favorite movies you know I don't

[00:41:36] know if it's I say it's my favorite but it's a movie that I enjoy which is a what's your call it Capricorn one which I big movie yeah I think it's a good OJ Simpson yeah OJ yeah and it's a it's a really if you've not seen Capricorn

[00:41:52] one check it out it's really fun it's you know it's faking the moon landing kind of inspired I also grew up on the more sexy Presidio which was like Mark Harmon and Sean Connery and Meg Ryan very beautiful Meg Ryan like as a kid I

[00:42:09] was like oh Meg Ryan and you know and that was a you know he's a he's a good he has some interesting films like even is like even like I remember he directed that movie The Relic right I think which is like I remember that it's like a

[00:42:23] solid creature feature in the mid 90s everything that he's done is pretty solid like and Star Chamber is really good too it's like yeah there's a bunch yeah he's like a utility player like he'll get he'll get on base you know he's

[00:42:39] he's he's good you know he may not be like a great artist but he's good he's the Joey pants of directing you know I think he's like very true I like him I have nothing bad to say about this guy easy and when you hear his

[00:42:51] interview on we have like a spin-off podcast origin stories it's great he's got that energy just like you know it's and he's like he's honest he's like yeah I think John Clevin names a good actor he's like but I figured I can make it work

[00:43:05] he also his son is like one of the best directors of direct-to-video action films around right now really son he did the last three straight-to-video Universal Soldier sequels which is why I thought they're good they're really good and hyams shot one of them hi

[00:43:25] am so right but Peter Himes did he'd lensed his son's direct-to-video John Clevin is in those yes and Lundgren yeah so they're like they're like yeah keeping it real day Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning which I think is that was the one that everyone all the

[00:43:41] like film nerds it rules it's so good and it's also totally self-contained you don't have to have seen any of the other films feeling some on me I'm just so tired of waiting David what are you waiting for griffin waiting to find good hires oh that's that's been

[00:44:01] going on yeah you've been posting like a job to job sites that you want to hire for waiting for the right people to see it I like you've you've made a huge mistake I don't want to be judgmental but you made a huge mistake in not

[00:44:17] using Zip Recruiter oh right because the Zip Recruiter learns what you're looking for and identifies people with the right experience and it invites them to apply to your job you don't have to do the work that's the problem I've been collecting rats from the sewer

[00:44:31] and telling them what I look for and they a don't seem to process the information and be don't bring any results back to me I gotta be honest I mean I Zip Recruiter includes like a lot of different jobs not sure if they include the rat

[00:44:44] network well I'm saying I'm willing to move on from the rat network because I dispatched those rats six months ago and I've gotten zero results back I haven't even seen them again and you have the bubonic plague which isn't I do but we'll get to that

[00:44:54] another time just like the woman from the Dixie tricks in fact eighty percent of employers who post a job in Zip Recruiter get a quality candidate through the site in just one day you've been waiting six months yeah that's about six months

[00:45:06] less than I've been waiting right oh rounding it's about six months yeah exactly give her take a day it's just one day you could get a quality candidate the right candidates are out there Zip Recruiter is how you find them I didn't even think about

[00:45:17] quality kids no they're good candidates yeah because I was ready to settle for bad businesses of all size from corporations to one weird actor guy no that you have well to be fair I'm kind of a massive corporation yeah that's your grift grift corp there's

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[00:46:00] should probably go to the doctor first though right because plague thing is getting bad you know friendly advice sure okay but let's let's jump into the plot of the movie yeah so I think I like and I think this is a real heim's quality is that Chicago is

[00:46:18] just unpleasant this movie right bird just took a shit on Chicago in this just like dirty snow everywhere and it again you know well it was just go with we've already said it but it is just it feels like this is the way

[00:46:32] low tier drug bust crappy like you know crappy apartments like it's one of those movies where you feel like everything a shot on location there's no real sense you know they're in real and that's what I love like I love a shitty city apartment as someone who

[00:46:48] lived in New York for what many years like when they have that chase through the apartment building was like oh yeah I've been in those apartment buildings in the Bronx I've been in those like I know what that is I smell that building

[00:46:57] you know and it's this thing I miss now in cop comedies which I think the modern ones are mostly kind of like a postmodern riffing on this era is like when the stakes feel real and the world there in feels tactile like

[00:47:11] here's a funny person in a real crime scenario yeah and this movie like looks grimy feels dangerous even then these guys just have a funny relaxed energy well yeah they're just there like you said their work-a-day cops and like even when they go back to their like the

[00:47:26] the precinct you know even though it's lit very dark and everything like that it feels like a real cop like it just feels like grimy you know just it doesn't yeah it's not pushing it's not super futuristic they don't have any super tools and even the dudes

[00:47:39] that you know in a very other guys way this movie they have two cops that are kind of like the rival cops at one of our in John Grease yeah John Grease great I love those guys because they're they're like the ones

[00:47:53] who are like they're really method about it grown their hair out and they like they think they are such hot shit and I love that it's like it's such a funny it's a funny game for them to like it's like they're the actors who like just

[00:48:05] booked a one-liner on a sitcom yeah the dude who's like on episode 200 is like kid you don't have to work this hard you know just like hit your marks and say the words but that well alright so so the beginning of the movie is

[00:48:17] they catch pant Joey pants well they play first all the they're running at well they're playing basketball and wearing scar it's socked in the face yeah which is I guess that's a good opening like that's a good entry into the world Peter Huyams wants us to be

[00:48:33] in right it's like you could be playing pick up basketball and some like skinny white guys gonna punch you in the face and these guys are like integrated into this city you know they're not just like cops staying in their precinct yeah there it's like I

[00:48:46] feel like it's like they're out they're there like they're like it's a funny scene because like they're playing basketball like with the like it like but they're also not good like it's like they are it's a lot is going on in that opening scene because it's like I

[00:48:59] think it's trying to make you feel like they're in this they are in the city but the way they are in the city is not even that cool you know it's like right it's media hanging up by like an on fire garbage can yeah

[00:49:12] they're basically what's up from homeless right they don't have any cop sheen to them they look I mean they look raggedy yeah and also it's like their whole cop methodology is like they're hanging out like hey isn't that a Jimmy Smith let's go get him

[00:49:25] hey look over there Jimmy Smith right they're just like they're waiting for something suspect to happen right right and and both of these guys are guys they sort of know by reputation right sure Jimmy Smith is called Julio Gonzalez and Joey pants a snake

[00:49:43] snake yeah so they take after them but there's even kind of that moment where they're like we should probably try to go after them right yeah like they're like fuck we got to work don't we we're on the job well in your you're

[00:49:56] basically following them on the very like a very simple assignment there's nothing big here they stumble into something big and they realize like when I think when I didn't watch it last night but I've seen it so many times like when snake is basically talking to

[00:50:13] Jimmy Smith's like oh oh that's that's it like we got with how what's going on here like that's what they're trying to figure out like you know right that's their entire probable cause right we saw them talking to each other but then

[00:50:25] they go to the snakes house and he's got money this is bad money in a suitcase yeah but but they don't want to be hero cops like these guys don't want to be the star of a movie no they just want to like punch in punch

[00:50:38] out get their pension they're just trying to like count out the clock you know yeah but they're like beat cops in many ways they're like cops at this point yeah that's the thing and like that's I think they're only really valuable skill that had a likes out of

[00:50:52] them you know when he's trying to get them to train their replacement so he's like well you know you know the street like you know what to do in your neighborhood like just teach them all the spots in your neighborhood and I think the reason they get so

[00:51:03] involved in this case is just because if these characters have an Achilles heel it's that they love low level razzic yeah I do love to clown on each other right so they see Pantiliano and they're like we can fucking clown on

[00:51:16] this guy till the sun goes down basically like you have 50 grand you shouldn't so we're just gonna get it out of here like why you have this but then like a moment that is funny like works as a good gag for the audience but also

[00:51:29] totally makes sense as a thing a cop would do is when crystal goes out in the balcony yeah and rats out yeah he's got 50 grand up here keep an eye on him like that's actually kind of a good cop move in order to intimidate him into

[00:51:42] working with them and and I will say to it's like not you know we talked earlier about like the plot isn't super so but I think the plot is it's simple like it doesn't have like I think we're so used to now it's like it's a conspiracy and

[00:51:55] it goes to this level it's like no here's a guy who is you know he's the kingpin in the city but of drug kingpin but is respectable and they're just trying to bring him down there's not much more to this movie than that and

[00:52:10] the and the fact is he's hard to bring down like that's that's really I mean in many ways like what else do you need you don't need much more than that you know that's a good enough story most people don't bring down drug kingpin

[00:52:22] right it's like Jimmy Smith's is a drug kingpin he sells cocaine right new things he's also buying some oozees yes that's you know he went up one level and when they follow the you know the trail they like get on this boat and he's buying some oozees

[00:52:36] that's it but it's also like with cop comedies you want the crime or the case to be functional like you wanted to track but no one's in it for the plot you're in it to hang out with these characters right so this movie just

[00:52:48] does like just enough of that without bogging us down and I was so relieved at the end of it when it was like whoo thank God Hadea wasn't in on it Stephen Bauer wasn't in on it like I was dreading some scene where someone

[00:53:00] walks out of like a dark hallway and reveals that they were actually pulling the strings you guys had to keep on sniffing my trail yeah and it's like no it's just it's the guy they think it is but he's a good criminal

[00:53:11] so it's hard to peg him and that to me is again why you when you get to these things like I love the you know lethal what I go into lethal weapon another simple thing you know it's like and Beverly Hills cop it's simple it's

[00:53:26] like all right Beverly Hills cop it's an art dealer who's using his art buying to smuggle in drugs easy got it done right you know and then and and and leave the weapon it's basically like it's a little bit more complicated

[00:53:37] but it's also just you know it all goes back to this Vietnam thing which is also like super dark and but you know it's like a little bit of a conspiracy but not like it's not like the governor was in on it too you know it doesn't

[00:53:49] go all the way to City Hall yeah right and it's like we want to see how these characters deal with this situation so it's better if you just put him in situations where there's a lot of shoe leather right you know a lot of

[00:54:01] shoe leather leather leather is a leather remove and when they when they stumble upon this you know when when a snake gets busted and blows their cover and they are you know they get in this like shootout and it feels to me like they've

[00:54:14] never really been like you know in a shootout like you know or or in a way that was like really dangerous to them you know that's I was about to bring that up like so that's like where the snake leads them to this bust on the

[00:54:26] boat and like yeah it's it feels very scary like and not in a like exaggerated way just like oh these guys these are guys who have actively avoided this kind of situation not their thing they can't like shoot their way out of a boat with gangsters with

[00:54:39] the oozees and stuff right let's bust the guy on the corner let's not take down the kingpin you know yeah exactly and I feel like and and that moment freaks them out they lose their lead and then the movie basically is like

[00:54:54] alright this is like and I guess where would you guys say I mean that's the end of the first is the end of the first act them going on vacation I mean in the beginning of the second act I mean like

[00:55:04] yeah yeah yeah so that's the end of the first act is like they're they're stressed they've got sloppy get out of town because they actually just brought some attention to something that they didn't need like you need to go like you need to get out of here right

[00:55:18] now and they go yeah they go on the case they go on vacation they do the end of the movie first you know that this I couldn't believe it when this happened I literally I legit thought that that would be the end of you know it's

[00:55:30] such a good gag because we've seen these guys drinking a lot at shithole bars right yes a lot of great shithole bars and unbelievable Chicago shithole bars and like this whole city feels so cold so gross so mean and these bars feel like a distillation of that where

[00:55:49] they're not even fighting it and they slide behind the bar and pour themselves drinks they both have like ex-wives who will come by just to be like hey just FYI still don't like you I'll see you later love his ex-wife in this his ex-wife in this

[00:56:02] it's perfectly cast and also like she's not like she like you can tell she likes him like there's something there's a good energy they're like one of the when they come back from vacation like he's like I got to go to my wife's

[00:56:17] like mother's funeral that's the other big first act direct snake to the funeral they're late to the funeral it's one of the six things he was supposed to do that day is drop in on this funeral yeah and they bring yeah

[00:56:31] Dan today like what I mean one of my favorite lines of music a peepee there's a there's a UFO on whatever avenue in Chicago and they punch him in the face like I love that moment you have all ended you have all ended but

[00:56:45] he's got this ex-wife who's kind of just like you know clearly fell for his charms realized it was not a sustainable relationship and now has put up a wall and is trying not to fall for it again when I see Chris on

[00:56:58] this movie I say is hot I do me like he's the kind of guy you could divorce 100% yes she got a guy you could be like let's cut our losses here and you can just imagine a few too many nights where he like forgets to go to dinner

[00:57:10] because the Cubs are playing you know right he's not like it like she didn't divorce him because he loves the job like that's I think you got like out of it wasn't like you work too hard you get too deep I just think it's

[00:57:21] like oh yeah you're just like kind of shit husband yeah I love you but like this is not working for me like you're not paying enough attention to him he was probably as good at being a husband as he is as being a cop which is to say

[00:57:33] okay yeah he kind of he just kind of like talks his way through it like very frustrating the people who ask him to be responsible and show up and meanwhile I mean and then Gregory Hines a little bit more of a ladies man you know

[00:57:46] when they go out and meet those ladies I love that his move at the end of the movie when they when he has to kind of get them to help them out Billy Crystal gets Gregory Hines like Gregory Hines likes to have

[00:57:56] sex while putting on the police blinker of his cop motorcycle which is kids in his like warehouse yeah where house loft which is great great I mean and that's like how that's like the most ridiculous thing really I guess you know like it's like all right yeah he

[00:58:12] lives his motor cycle is in his house and he's like having sex while the police light is flashing and also Crystal and Hines are so comfortable with each other that to say crystal just apparently has keys to his place and shows up in the morning whether or

[00:58:27] not he's post-coitus walking on in on each other having sex yeah like it happens multiple times and it's not like that big of a deal they seem and the women seem to the girl doesn't care either right yeah these are definitely two guys who

[00:58:40] have fargoed before right yeah they definitely had parallel sex it feels like because they're very comfortable with each other there's a probably a few scenes we did not see in that vacation montage those girls on the poop on the on the Marlin boat you know

[00:58:57] we don't know what happened there yeah so that's that's my favorite gag in the movie is Hadea goes like you know badges on my table take a fucking vacation they don't want to do it they go to Key West well but no but we cut to hard

[00:59:10] cut to another dark bar and they're really about can you can you believe it he wants us to go on vacation and you think it's right after the office them complain Chicago and then they step outside and they're in the most beautiful place in America right and

[00:59:23] then it's the sunset bit is really funny so good whether like what are you looking at that for and she's like it's beautiful he's like wait it doesn't every day yeah they've never even thought to look at the sunset these guys have have just not considered the

[00:59:34] idea that they could enjoy their lives like beauty in the world right and then suddenly they just they bite in you know yeah they start living what looks like the best life like enter the Miami Vice credits they suddenly live within the credit

[00:59:51] opening credit to the Miami Vice they bite into some McDonald's yes yes they are and they're living a life and you get like and they come back with this energy after that montage where they learn how to they learn like what their first moment is like

[01:00:04] what are people standing how looking at and they're oh the sunset and then at the end of the montage they've seen the sunset and they come back the way that everyone comes back from vacation going like I should just live there should I just live

[01:00:15] right and then they do buy that they do like sign a lease for a bar right I mean that's that's part of it too yeah also they have 40 grand right he inherited from him right but they're sort of working out the math of their pension and everything and

[01:00:28] they're like why wouldn't we just do this yet so they're both about 40 when they make this movie I checked their ages oh wow actors and so like you know they're like cops can retire in their mid-40s yeah like they're both sort of

[01:00:40] around the time they could do it let's punch out maybe five years earlier than they planned on it but the thing I like is that most cop movies it's like this cops Achilles heel is he's addicted to the rush of

[01:00:51] being a cop he needs to be on the force otherwise he can't get his juice and this it's like for the first time they step away from it and they just go like actually you know what I'm totally happy not being a cop I'm fine with

[01:01:04] this yeah so they have each other right so then the movie just becomes like okay can we just like let's just get to the finish line here yeah they go back in they go to a day they're like look we signed the lease we love

[01:01:15] Key West you were right we did need a vacation and and and he's like what do you mean you're gonna open a bar you're fucking idiots like you know but it but it is you know it works you know it like they're they're fine and then they

[01:01:30] get real then they're scared I mean maybe this is where the title is I mean you know there they are like you know Billy Chris was like I got to wear a bulletproof vest from now well I mean there's a whole incident with

[01:01:41] what is it the they were gone gun goes off in the in the changing room the cop change that's weird yes yeah yes and because like right yes Smith yes Smith is out on bail so they got to worry about

[01:01:53] that a lot of other cops have been dying too right yes yeah cuz like they're on this case where cop got like drowned in cement right yeah right again you don't see all this violence you just hear about it yeah it's almost crazy that

[01:02:06] this movie's rated R no yeah there's not a lot of bad language now the sex you mentioned like that your dad out yeah minor very chased honestly yeah and like even the violence is is I mean some people get shot I guess

[01:02:20] well you're nothing crazy there is that most of the bad guys just like back out of like shooting a cop they're just like all right yeah that's like a lot of this movie if I had to guess why it got in our rating I would say it was

[01:02:32] probably the 20 minute close-up shot of Billy crystals penis oh yeah well that was because it was erect right right yes right which you can't sneak that by them they'll see that I should mention also I watched this movie on an edit that my dad put together

[01:02:49] edit every movie before I watch it and puts more graphic content what the penis look familiar I mean I mean to be craft but did it look familiar like like I mean it looked like my dad's penis yeah is that where we're

[01:03:01] getting a yeah yeah yeah but I mean assumed I just thought I guess Bill crystal my dad come from similar stock you know yeah yeah yeah it is a kind of incredible that they cast Billy crystal to play an Italian in this

[01:03:15] movie and not even passively but they talk about his Italian heritage a lot yeah because this is the New Yorkiest he has ever been I feel like he's amping up his accent in this he he's in like full Mike was out ski

[01:03:28] mode in this I do but yeah I agree with you I could be like those are the things that I don't ever realize those as a I was watching after Trek the the Star Trek Discovery after show the man and John and Frank's is on

[01:03:44] there and they were talking about something and he goes you guys remember you realize that Patrick Stewart is supposed to be French like you know like it's funny you don't like yeah Jean-Luc Picard and he is right so British but you don't question it

[01:03:58] you're like yeah yeah sure sure he's yeah yeah they made their episodes where he's going to like his winery like in right goes back to like family vineyard right and like everyone else is like oh Jean-Luc why do you know he's in space you

[01:04:11] never hang out that's a binary you know but like you know Jewish New Yorker is to Billy Crystal what like angry Bostonian is to Mark Walberg it's like a thing you cannot beat out of their personality right yeah and this movie asked you to accept that

[01:04:30] not only is he Italian rather than Jewish but he's hardcore Chicago boy by the way I gotta tell you until you brought all of these very valid points up never never cost never never did it feel weird never did I think anything like now you're saying it everything

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[01:07:30] on bail they're on edge yeah they are there's a little more of them I do like the first half the movie more than the second half sure I guess I like it all yeah yeah when this movie is brought up what was your I mean you're coming

[01:07:45] into it like had you seen it had you heard about it and then what were your reactions to it just like so great now to me I'd only heard of this movie as a movie you'd mention the same sentences collision course that J

[01:07:56] Leno Pat marina movie on the 80s there were so many buddy cop movies what a weird pair and I yeah I I you know you and you load it up and it's got that sort of like real basic white font for the titles yeah I don't know

[01:08:14] and then just the first scene I was so charmed by how like low-fi everything was and like and how not over the top Heinz and Crystal war and how like natural their chemistry wasn't I mean it is one of those things where

[01:08:28] I'm almost more forgiving a movie like this now because you never see movies like this anymore yeah right like like David and I saw the computer I really liked it gather great which is great you know I hear it I I've only heard what you just said

[01:08:41] like that that idea that it's really really great yeah I mean it's an American masterpiece right one of the better movies ever made right but we walked out of it and we were like commuter is such like movies like this are such an important part of the film

[01:08:54] ecosystem sure and like Liam Neeson is singlehandedly the only kind of person who's supplying us with that kind of like bare knuckle sort of man under pressure thriller yeah budget thriller yeah right and I feel like we're similarly lacking in this type of

[01:09:11] movie right now so I felt like frustrated weirdly watching run and scared that we don't have modern running scards well like comedies that aren't overtly silly that have like real-world stakes that are personality based and are this kind of like casual and comfortable well I gotta tell you

[01:09:30] guys I actively tried to to make to buy the rights to this movie whoa yeah I took a meeting to try to make this movie I was like I think that was like I was like you know it's like oh

[01:09:47] you know every now and then you get an idea and I'm like I would love yeah I think this movie is really good and I think it's something that's kind of lacking in the in in the space and it has like enough of a high concept idea to

[01:09:59] it like these guys that want to get out of it and I tried to chase it down and it just kind of um I think it was like a rights issue or something but it was who owns this movie yeah I think you

[01:10:10] know because I met with it oh that's I met with MGM who produced it but MGM doesn't own it and he or the rights but I dug up I did a little digging on it because I just like oh it's such a good

[01:10:22] I could see this movie being made in this era and still working on some level like you just take the same kind of you know friends at the beginning simple plot you keep it real and it has like you know it's I wonder you know I

[01:10:36] think there's an a room where this works I think so if they had given you the keys to the kingdom if you had gained control of the massive running scared franchise and all of its tendrils it's multimedia opportunities right yeah were you

[01:10:50] planning on being one of the two yeah that's in my mind I was like look I could probably you know pull this off on some level you know like um yeah you know and but they might be you know in the

[01:11:00] in the dream of dreams like I was like oh that would be so cool and you can make it really in my mind I was like here's a movie can make cheaply but it could be cool and uh and it could feel like just

[01:11:09] something that felt a little bit new did you have a blue sky notion of who you would have wanted your partner to be buddy yeah no I didn't you know I should have I should have probably thought about it that uh let's say

[01:11:23] Gerard Carmichael sure well I don't know if you know this but they announced the the safty brothers who did a good time and have enough what are are gonna do a 48 hours remake with Gerard Carmichael and that way I didn't know that weight is

[01:11:36] yeah that they're doing with Gerard that's amazing oh wow yes and he's gonna write it with them and that like the thing I love about this era of buddy cop movies is that most of the directors were not comedy directors yeah like you have guys like

[01:11:51] hyams or Walter Hill or Richard Donner so it's like get funny actors but have a director who knows how to make a real cop movie yeah and the safty brothers have that kind of tactile edgy street gritty quality yeah I love yeah that's great

[01:12:07] which is really encouraging and I wonder if like the only way to get these movies back into the ecosystem is to have them be remakes of the titles that are well known but these concepts are so general and they're so personality based that like if you

[01:12:21] have to use the basic setup of 48 hours as a jumping off point yeah that's fine as long as we can get these back into the bloodstream yeah see I feel like I would love to see you and manzukas do a buddy cop movie together that could play on

[01:12:34] just your level of comfort you know you guys know each other's moves 100% I like you know it's like one of the best things that I loved about the league was like doing scenes with a crow and zoos and even Hubel when he

[01:12:47] was on because it's it's so fun to improvise so freely with the people that you've been doing this with like all the time yeah right and that's you watch movies like this and it's like these guys aren't jockeying to be the breakout star

[01:13:02] of this film they just want to like work well together there are two guys who like each other they're just trying to make some some nice chemistry yeah and I think that that's the thing that's missing and I feel like you know

[01:13:12] the closest thing I can kind of call to that is you know I think Seth Rogan does a great job of yeah of capturing that energy like that you miss out on like even I did this tv show future man with like aquafina who's really very funny and

[01:13:28] and we got to like play like I think it's they are really good at letting chemistry and finding things and playing with each other happen but doing it in a way where you're actually getting a lot of I was watching again another 20 minute

[01:13:44] movie this is the end and I was like oh yeah this is uh this is like everyone's playing in this way that's really fun and it's really good well look on the subject of good friends who have great chemistry who should be in a movie together

[01:13:59] I pitched it before I'll pitch it again Griffin Newman gal Gadot midnight run directed by Paul Thomas Anderson by the way I love my pitch love that yeah I mean I feel like that I mean that that's looking such a no-brainer and I think

[01:14:11] you're gonna have to fight with the Wonder Woman schedule I mean that's you know it seems like that's that's the only hold up now we haven't met we don't know each other but we're both Jews and we play superheroes so we're the

[01:14:19] exact same person I'm sure we'd hit it off I mean yeah first of all she's so down to earth she's really fun uh yeah and I see a lot of myself in her when I see her on screen I go

[01:14:30] like that's the kind of move I would make you know somebody said something on Twitter it's really nasty but I and I as someone who enjoyed Wonder Woman and enjoys her whole energy um but it was like it was funny like

[01:14:45] that the choice that they made in that movie was that everyone speaks like her not that she loved your voice right right right she's the you're right she's the touchstone for all of Amazonia yeah right like everyone yeah and I just think that like I did

[01:14:58] again and a thing I did not um did not ever think of it like oh yeah she like but it's like a it's a strong movement no no no no everyone talk like her everyone has an Israeli accent yeah um but also why shouldn't they do that

[01:15:12] like she's Wonder Woman the entire movie should be reverse engineered from whoever's Wonder Woman she's good yeah and we're gonna be great together and that movie's getting green lit um should we talk about the last act of yeah well I mean the last you know

[01:15:25] so basically they're they're nervous they're running they're running scared um and they're getting close uh and so when they get uh when they get a little bit too close for comfort um uh Jimmy Smith's kidnaps Billy Crystal's ex-wife and uh you know

[01:15:41] now right he's gotta get involved now he's gotta you know this is this he can't he can't set this one out and we haven't said crystals ex-wife is is now engaged to a dentist which they keep right ragging he's dunking on this dentist so hard that's

[01:15:56] hypothetical dentist oh that's another big running bit I like is that when anyone in the movie comes looking for one of the two of them right they pass it off to the other one pretend yeah yeah there's that great speech where Gregory Hines has to sell himself as

[01:16:09] being crystal right opera yeah tomato sauce well again and then like also like uh I mean yeah like it's like the um the guy for I always think about the guy from um Ghostbusters at Sigourney Weaver is dating who's like shooting afrin into his nose

[01:16:24] is like Venkman's talking to him who's that guy like he's like oh I love yeah I love the shitty boyfriend the role that I would probably be playing in one of these movies but yeah but the wife he goes to see her

[01:16:39] and and he kind of finally they have a little fight and she doesn't get where he gets her to admit how much he still has feelings for him even though she's fighting that because she knows that's a dumb decision right objective right but he's got that flame

[01:16:54] reignited a little bit he gets so angry he breaks one of his 15 framed chicago cubs he wears a lot of cubs remember really he wears a blackhawks shirt at one point this is one of the best scarf movies I've ever seen by the way confident

[01:17:11] scarf wearing confident scarf wearing is an art that uh this movie really you know really showed us how you can do it because it's a tough line to walk without coming off as pretentious yeah right yes but do you think they shot

[01:17:25] the Key West stuff at the end of the shooting schedule like do you think they like rewarded themselves with that because it looks like a miserable shoot in Chicago uh I wonder I wonder if they either started with that to get the buddy

[01:17:37] nature together sure the hey you know yeah yeah that's actually a great way to kind of get uh you get your you know your crew you know I remember I was shooting a movie in New Orleans and they were shooting this is the

[01:17:48] end second type of reference and they had before their movie started they had a rap party at the beginning of the movie oh that's so smart smart idea yeah have everyone like hang out because the first couple days of filming anything feel like everyone's at a new school

[01:18:07] yes it's always very odd and uncomfortable and you're being thrown to the deep end trying to do very collaborative work and everyone's like a little like maybe the sound department has worked with each other before but they don't know the camera department

[01:18:20] no you know everyone should have some dumb bar night before they start working on a movie yeah I feel like you need to get I mean you want to get comfortable you want it like because you're always like oh I wish the last day was our first day

[01:18:32] because you know you just know everybody's movements and that's why I'm a big fan of and not that I've ever really had a chance to do it but um to have rehearsal you know like if you could get like a week of rehearsal just run through

[01:18:46] scenes it's such a great thing it's a luxury that feels like it has been fully squeezed out of the industry yeah which makes no sense whatsoever I want to talk about the car chase okay because the car chase in this movie is wonderful genuinely really thrilling

[01:19:01] great car chases of the 80s in my opinion what a good hook has to be up there yeah um we were talking about car chase at the beginning right this episode but still like the bit of doing it on the L so great and literally the third rail

[01:19:15] as the the tension yes literally yeah literally literally and then there's the thing with the none I'm trying to think of like what other things we need to hit because this is the thing with the no I mean we talked about we talked about the big finale

[01:19:28] which is like the very the biggest set piece that you're gonna get which is in some sort of famous building in Chicago Gauglass the James Thompson Center they it's amazing location they shoot it so well it is quite a crazy thing the floor of this

[01:19:41] place is incredible looking and they keep on doing these like crazy high upwards I use it's a well shot action sequence which I think one of the best parts of it is how it is um the the elevators the glass elevators and you're seeing

[01:19:56] everything is exposed and you're seeing everything and and yeah there's machine gun fire but also like sloppy oozy firing like which is uh which is really fun to again this movie is not the glossy bad boys you know it's like I think what I why I picked

[01:20:11] this movie and what I like talking about this movie is very much like um diehard everything has birthed out of these things and we've gotten so far away from the genesis of why we like these things and why these things were good

[01:20:28] that you forget that if you go backwards they were the core of these things are great like you know like diehard wherever it is now and whatever incarnation they're terrible films in my opinion like uh and and you know it because it like I remember listening

[01:20:45] to like Bruce Willis talk about John McClain is like you know what people tune into for diehard is the you know that New Jersey sense of humor and I was like well you're totally wrong that's not people aren't people aren't tuning in for the

[01:20:58] New Jersey sense of humor of uh John McClain which I didn't even realize was from New Jersey but I can feel like you get so far and I think this movie is like if you just went back to this sometimes it really works just simple fun effective good

[01:21:13] partnership good pairing some cool set pieces uh that is you know nothing crazy nothing crazy the guys never become badasses the most heroic thing crystal does is convince his wife to jump to him right yes over a little gap yes right and it's like

[01:21:30] that makes sense he loves her he's really invested but there's never a moment like you know by diehard for Bruce Willis is using entire cars as bullets yeah right yes you know like he literally has that gag and he's like hanging off the side

[01:21:44] of like a fucking like a blackbird jet and shit and his raglan is always like perfectly distressed it's like again I think when you see things that are things that you could do or situations that you might be put in it's way more effective

[01:22:00] like you know I like I zone out a lot of the times and I'm like all right I but if I if someone said like jump to an elevator I can picture what that feels like I can picture being there you know there are those are the

[01:22:10] things that you feel like I don't know what it's like to you know drive a fucking tank on the highway in the fast and furious and you know jump from one lane to the next but I know I've been in those elevators I've had those thoughts like

[01:22:23] I could probably do I could like I think I could do it scary yeah the stakes always feel very palpable in this movie and maybe my favorite gag in the entire film is when they're sort of like breathing their sigh of relief and then they hear Jimmy Smith's

[01:22:37] yelling out yeah and they realize that neither of them have gotten him they both thought that the other time they shoot they always have an argument over who hit the guy like yeah who fired the good shot right there they're a bunch of cuties

[01:22:49] yeah all right but I know you gotta go Paul but we gotta play the box office game before we're done yes we always end by trying to guess the box office of the week and the movie came out okay got it and this movie came out June 27th

[01:23:01] 1986 summer summer I mean this is yeah yeah but late summer late you sure uh yeah late you all right it's a mid summer yeah but yeah we're not talking about an August movie like this is no no no it's in there it's June it's July

[01:23:15] Fourth of July weekend is right there that's a big box office weekend coming up this movie's gonna play yeah right um it opened number five was not like a oh wow stormer out of the gate it opened so five mil it ends up grossing like

[01:23:28] 40 yeah which is like pretty good yeah and you know and uh and you know there's something really interesting about a movie like this I want to hear what you guys are saying too it's like so if it grosses 40 like how much is it made for do we know

[01:23:40] how much it's made for uh oh yeah what the budget was 15 that's my guess yeah all right I know they said that they were encouraged enough about it that everyone wanted to do another Heinz crystal movie that's what I always was under the impression that

[01:23:55] there was always going to be a sequel and I heard them talk about it a few times and and right you know it felt it felt like yeah let's see like why not that one because again or even if not a direct sequel like what's

[01:24:05] their stir crazy what's there no evil here no evil you know yeah and they said they just never found the script I mean they clearly these two guys like each other get along yeah there's no there's no question the chemistry is

[01:24:16] good yeah um so number one uh is a hot sequel uh to a hot movie from a couple years back uh hmm I think it's then I think it's the highest grossing in this franchise there are others after it what year is it again 1986

[01:24:34] it's a sports movie oh it's a crotty kid part two crotty kid part two oh wow okay I think that is the highest grossing one right yeah it made a ton of money yeah 115 which like adjusted is is like some crazy amount of money that's and it made

[01:24:51] more than the first one which is nuts to me because I think the first one is like a completely ubiquitous movie right but uh it made it did better yeah what happens in the crotty kid part two I don't remember is that the one

[01:25:02] where it takes place like it starts five seconds after the first one ended around as clearly that's where he goes to okinawa right and they had the drum where it goes back and we are that little thing that goes back and forth

[01:25:14] yeah all right number two is a comedy just I mean the kind of thing I think our producer yeah he's not and he's happy love I love this movie starring a big comic personality the 80s personality feels like a deliberate sure word choice you know he's a guy

[01:25:32] kind of plays himself in every movie okay is he a been favorite I mean I don't know if I referenced him before but and this is very much like a vehicle yeah totally yeah he's uh um is there like describe this

[01:25:49] it was great 86 is I have this one I'm like terrible at the Doug Benson movie game because I like if you like I don't even know what the 86 is at this point I'm like I'm thinking Dana Carvey my goal that's way too

[01:25:59] early for Dana Carvey right Ben's got a clue it's been got a clown he's always worried the actor lead actors always worried about his honor boy put into question oh this was the sixth highest grossing movie of this year is it back

[01:26:15] to school yes right right he gets no respect this movie gross more than aliens was huge huge giant huge a huge film a giant movie yeah you know I'm realizing okay well I want to hear the I want to hear I have an interesting

[01:26:28] girl what are you really have an interesting fact about running scared I'm looking a little bit online right now I think running scared was re-released in November because it came out July 27th on 600 screens right and then on November 2nd it was released on

[01:26:43] 864 screens and made one of the large like well first of all the the biggest weekend it had was in August like so it really this movie had some life to it like it went like it like it it really it's interesting to see like I'm just

[01:26:59] tracking where it went but it looks like like mid-november early November they're like get it back in the theaters it was like doing that now I know is the my big fat Greek wedding of its day yeah yeah because it it's not like a

[01:27:12] movie that makes a ton when it debuts no it just stays on it builds yeah yeah it builds number three is a movie the title rhymes you know it's a it's a comedy it stars a real big movie star and then two ladies

[01:27:33] two sort of hot ladies of the 80s oh legal eagles legal eagles is our legal legal oh you got it title rhymes a right man picture it's an Ivan right man movie from cash in it who and that's deborah winger deborah winger and daryl hand

[01:27:50] you know the only reason why that movie was on my brain is that I made a very bad twitter joke yesterday that it I had I had a thought so quickly I wrote it and I was like oh this is not even conceptually put together right but I

[01:28:01] wanted I all I wanted like what I might my original twitter joke with this like uh like I wanted to be like breaking news three new lawyers join the robert molars team and I wanted to post just a picture of legal eagles

[01:28:16] because I were for whatever reason that popped into my head and then a hilarious poster it's a hilarious like I don't know why it like popped in a is like one of those things that just kind of came to me and then

[01:28:26] and then I was like oh maybe just be roman jay israel but I'm like that no one knows what that is and then I didn't even really sell the joke in any way but I just like but I don't know why literally yesterday legal eagles

[01:28:37] came into my head for no reason it's a great title it's that poster we're like redford's just leaning on the desk with uh with just so much delight legal eagles and from the hip are two amazing lawyer from the hip i'm the hip that that's the

[01:28:52] jed nelson one right I always get that one confused doesn't he have like a bone in his mouth he has like a dog toy yeah Jesus christ does the old boy robin stormy weathers the way he practices law should be a crime by the way I've

[01:29:04] never seen the bone in the mouth one I've only seen the one where he's standing with his hand up and it says the way he practices law should be a crime oh yeah so it's anything but I never saw the tagline I never

[01:29:14] saw the bone in the mouth you got the class here well yeah the fourth and final movie because going to scare his fifth I'll give you I'll just describe the poster to you okay it's just a big screw oh yeah yeah ruthless

[01:29:28] people another like huge one of the highest grossing films of that year yeah which I have never seen I have weirdly seen other people's money which was sort of like sure where they were like can we just do that again like DeVito is like this

[01:29:39] rich shithead like I never saw I never saw it and I had the movie soundtrack to it though so you're real 80s movie soundtrack oh I mean I had everything on tape every 80s movie on take oh man yeah I mean you know it's

[01:29:54] that's a pretty good cast DeVito judge Reinhold Helen Slater bet middler and isn't zucker abram zucker yep sucker abraham zucker yeah yeah and god bet middler ran the table on the 80s she had a run that was fucking insane sure uh some other movies in Top Gun

[01:30:14] is in the top 10 yeah Ferris Bueller is in the top 10 most interestingly though to me labyrinth also debuts this week in number eight that movie was a bomb that was a big bomb yeah that because that movie only made like 10 million but this is a time and where

[01:30:28] and again I love these movies it doesn't happen like this anymore where word of mouth would elevate films like they didn't have to come on be number one like you know summer rental right in the theater for a handful of weeks and then like

[01:30:39] maybe a couple weeks later I remember I saw I mean I'm dating myself but I remember seeing Star Trek Undiscovered Country and Last Crusade together as a double feature a couple months after they were both out independent like it's just sort of like

[01:30:52] things are yeah things are lucy at the movie theater was sort of like yeah well these are two movies you liked from Paramount will double package them again go see them right they'll the old bargain run theaters where they were like hey yeah do you

[01:31:03] miss it well you can see if I have the price now whatever but it came up in a box office game sometime in the past the last time I think a studio really did a big version of that was like September of 2002 Sony re-released Men in Black 2 and

[01:31:16] the first Spider-Man as a double feature yeah and it like did well like it has its own box office mojo entry and I think it did like 20 million or something I I like that you know I like I like going to see a little bit of

[01:31:31] a double feature in a traditional setting like you know I think that's a fun thing to do they should be released running scared and running scared as a feature I could watch this movie again this must have been like a VHS king

[01:31:43] though this move this must have just been a video well it's sort of like the way that lethal weapon was you know the movie that became a hit on HBO you know like it yes pretty much was not a great you know a great

[01:31:58] film box office I think it's very low but the second one's like the first one is far and away the lowest grossing of the four yeah like yeah let me see and again going back to my point that these movies came I'm just looking so let the weapon

[01:32:09] came out the following year so yeah 87 and then Beverly Hills Cop let's see when that came out that came out two years before so yeah so it's right in the center yeah but believe the weapon I think is is feeding off this energy a little bit

[01:32:20] oh absolutely yeah I mean it's more grizzled yeah yeah I have a feeling that this movie it be like they add probably more comedy into leave the weapon because of that right bet yeah you know loosen it up a little bit

[01:32:35] yeah now I have one more thing before we let you go Gary DeVore who wrote this movie do you know about this guy um no I don't know much about Gary DeVore okay I mean he wrote you know he was like a guy he wrote raw deal

[01:32:47] he wrote passenger 57 like you know he like he was like a guy he mysteriously died in 1997 he crashed his car it beneath the California aqueduct and he did not have his hands when they recovered the body they had been cut off and there is

[01:33:06] like a crazy deep conspiracy theory about like the he'd written some script about like the US invasion of Panama yeah like revealed the truth and if you google him because I just sort of idly googled him it's like all this shit about how like you

[01:33:21] know how the US government murdered Gary DeVore and cut his hands off for some reason oh and I just I just I just we have to shout him out okay so I got a pitch I got a pitch yeah right right here off the dome

[01:33:36] period piece 90s buddy cop movie set in Hollywood okay two cops get assigned to the Gary DeVore case Paul Scheer Griffin Newman David Sims is the sergeant the desk sergeant I'm like that guy who smells of cabbage you know and he's like okay

[01:33:56] you could take your evidence yeah that guy two cops who joined the force because of running scared that was their touchstone movie and they did and they do investigate the death of the running scared writer let's do it so that's committed we're adding it

[01:34:08] to the blank slate I like check picture slate hey by the way one thing I just say as we're talking about these movies one movie to maybe check out and revisit I haven't done it in a long time but the hard way a great

[01:34:20] Michael J Fox James Woods oh buddy yeah movie about Michael J Fox being an actor wow who kind of follows James Woods and L cool J is a cop in it I remember being really fun but Michael J Fox is a big movie

[01:34:35] star yeah yeah I remember it being good I love James Woods I love James Woods class you know I love that that like medic and that's like his politics think his acting is pretty good sure his politics are love his politics

[01:34:48] like his work yeah I mean I when you're ranking it you're like number one politics that's what I go to woods for no number one twitter personality number two politician I worked with a teamster on a shoot recently who like on the van ride back

[01:35:06] was talking about the hard way and he just wouldn't stop selling how big a movie that was not like a neighbor but he was like you have no idea how big the shoot was we had all the time square block Michael J Fox he was a

[01:35:20] supernova and it's like yeah it was yeah you know I have a feeling that he he's not wrong because I remember moment from it Michael J Fox is hanging from a billboard in time square like not on a set like big like I always

[01:35:36] think of like vanilla sky as being like one of those big movies in time square because it's like oh you shut down time square or you least got there at five in the morning but you know it's like there is those moments where you

[01:35:45] see the city and oh how did they do that like that was that was a lot of money yeah it's post back to the future Michael J Fox where where he could do whatever he wanted yeah it's post video drone woods so post Salvador

[01:36:02] all right we're gonna free you from this uh podcasting prison Paul I had a pleasure thank you guys so much for having me and thanks for talking about this movie and I hope you guys enjoyed it into our lives oh good I'm so glad that you

[01:36:15] guys liked it and you know it's a movie like there's a handful of these movies that I feel like people don't know that are fun like they're they actually pay off in a good way without feeling dated or cheesy or something like that yeah I'd always

[01:36:27] been meaning to see it because I love this kind of movie but one of those movies that always gets like bumped down the netflix cube yeah so many more like quote unquote important movies I feel guilt a hundred percent into watching first I'm so I really screeners here

[01:36:40] yeah I know exactly yeah I thank you for prioritizing this movie and getting me to watch it and hopefully some of our listeners will do the same they will um well so good guys thank you so much and uh I'd love to come on again

[01:36:54] all right well we'll have you and you guys that come on our show we'd love that absolutely love that uh thank you all for listening please remember to rate review subscribe thanks to angie for good offer social media lame on coming for a theme song pat reynolds and

[01:37:08] joe bowen for artwork definitely check out how did this get made is there anything else uh paul that you uh want to uh you know what who cares that's good that's a good one let's do that sure yeah you're working on a

[01:37:21] galaxy quest I am indeed yeah um and we'll hopefully see how that kind of comes together it's something I'm very excited about and um you know I it's been a while that I've been working on it and I will only say that uh the way I

[01:37:36] can describe that is when you make a failure in Hollywood every there's one person to blame and when you make something successful there's uh 15 people who take credit for why it was successful so you have to run through a bigger gauntlet of approvals and opinions on everything

[01:37:52] so uh that is a it's but it's it's getting there I uh I just actually handed in a script today uh to my overlords uh and then it will hopefully go to amazon we'll see how it all goes together well we all know that amazon

[01:38:08] has only made great tv shows so I'm sure it will turn out phenomenally right we'll see we'll see I know it's jeff bezos's favorite shows or a bit jeff bezos's favorite movies so that's the only thing we got really going

[01:38:18] for it is that true that is a true statement like he actively saw one when amazon started he actively sought out the rights to this to to make it into a tv show do you think jeff bezos started amazon just so one day he would have

[01:38:30] enough money to buy the galaxy quest right I feel like there I mean you know what I honestly think that there's some truth to that all right all right guys talk to you soon all right bye bye paul bye paul and as always

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