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[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check I heard a podcast about you, I was wondering if it was true
[00:00:24] Everything they've podcasted about me? It's true Griffin held his hand up for the drink, yes good job Little robot drink pour, hello everybody Alden, he's started, I heard him, I can't do him I think that's not bad, I think it sounds better than you think it does
[00:00:40] Very specific delivery from this guy Yes, yes, and I would argue Coming straight out with the hot takes, they tampered his delivery a little bit in this movie You think so? I think they pulled him back in a way
[00:00:53] They gave him a specific diction to sort of use or whatever I think is to the detriment of the film But ladies and gentlemen, we're getting ahead of ourselves Because my name of course is downtown Griffiniums And my name of course is David Sims David Dog Sims
[00:01:07] Sure, David Dog Sims, but then aren't you Griff, no because they're Griff heads We're combining now, look, I'm off the leash You're the dog, you're off the leash Let's be honest, I'm off the leash Let me off the leash
[00:01:17] Wear my pound puppies out because the dog's off the leash today I feel like that was so big in the 90s, like dog things You know, like dog puns And this sort of Snoop Dogg, Lil Bow Wow era Not to mention Snoopy had a big 90s
[00:01:34] Yeah, he had a huge 90s Is that when he got the MetLife deal? Yes That guy, all over blimps That guy cashed in on blimps Like when I was a kid I was like MetLife make blimps Like that's a blimp company, right? Like they make blimps
[00:01:51] Yeah, I also remember like watching the Super Bowl And I hated sports so much that I would look forward to being like Ah, a Snoopy cartoon in the middle of the Super Bowl And I'd be like, no he's just selling insurance He's just selling it, yeah
[00:02:02] You know you'd see like Woodstock and stuff would be fun But I'd be like, here's some classic Joe Kool behavior The fuck is a blimp? Like why, like I love how like blimps it was in the 30s They were like, alright we're gonna travel in these
[00:02:13] And then by the 90s it's like It'll float above a stadium with like a name on it Like that's what a blimp is Nickelodeon will give them to child stars Like how did the blimp just end there? Right
[00:02:26] Like why not just, I don't know, just don't do that Just put the sign lower to the ground Isn't it weird how much though like the Nickelodeon kids' choice words used to really Like they used to play the blimp Like it wasn't just the trophies
[00:02:36] Like they used to have the blimp, I remember Right, yeah, they were all in on blimps Do you remember that Whitney Houston hosted those awards like five years in a row? Like did not remember that Before Rosie became like the Billy Crystal She was like the Johnny Carson
[00:02:48] And I distinctly remember and add That was like, hi I'm Whitney Houston From inside the Nickelodeon blimp And then she walked through it The helium from the blimp caused her voice to raise Oh that's interesting Anyway, thank you all for listening Please remember to rate, review, subscribe
[00:03:03] Oh we're done Yeah, this was blimp talk That was good Blimp talk Record time Yes, yeah, yeah Now let's start the next podcast That was blimp talk That was blimp check Okay A podcast about blimps Blimp culture Sometimes they crash like the Hindenburg Sure
[00:03:22] And sometimes they fly baby Is that why blimpy coast? Is that why blimpy? Blimpy, like the sandwiches? Yeah, yeah Cause blimps fell out of favor Literally as they fell out of the sky Yeah Jesus Christ, hi everybody Hi Hi, okay This is a podcast called Blank Check
[00:03:40] It is about filmography Directors should master success early on in their career Given a series of blank checks And whatever crazy passion products they want Sometimes they clear And sometimes they bounce baby That's usually what this is But this is a special episode
[00:03:54] I think you folks know what it is You've already seen it in your feed This is a special one-off episode Where I tell summer camp stories for two hours Because the response was so positive I wanna give the fans what they want
[00:04:07] Wow, even the bit means everyone's just deleted Everyone was just like, uh, no I'm kidding We used to be a Star Wars podcast A No Bits Pro-Smits Star Wars podcast That's true So every time there's a new war We gotta go back, we gotta talk about it
[00:04:26] And this is now the fourth New Star War picture It is They made four of these things It's called Solo Yeah, a Star Wars story And we saw it We did We saw it You've seen it twice I saw it two times I've seen it once Yeah
[00:04:48] Prusa Ben has seen it once Okay The Benducer has seen it once Just once The Poet Laureate has seen it once And I thought it was... Okay Pruduer Ben has seen it once Uh, who know Mr. Positive has seen it once Mr. Positive has seen it once
[00:05:01] Singular times The Fuckmaster has seen it once Professor Crispy has not seen it Because he doesn't exist No, but count it once Peeper peeped it Yeah Third bike Benny rode into the theater Sucking wet Benny Stayed pretty dry during the movie
[00:05:18] Yeah, I only spilled my drink a little bit Also graduated to certain titles of the course of The different Masters Kyle of Ben, Prusa Ben, Kenobi, Ben Nye, Tramla Ben Sage, Say Benny thing Ailey Ben's with the dollar sign War haze Ben 19, The Final Maker Ben Glish
[00:05:37] The Fuck Mr. Ben Credible RoboHus That sounds right I don't know I guess we're debuting The Brooks Because we like at this point in the episodes we recorded before We haven't really thought of the Bend name for Brooks Right, we recorded Like four months of episodes in advance
[00:05:55] And this is the first time we've recorded in like two months now That sounds right Yeah That's crazy Griffin's been, I don't know, chilling out Yeah, very relaxed, sleeping very much Very cool, very fun Yeah, you don't look sick No
[00:06:09] Well to be fair Griffin looks sick a lot I think I look more sick than usual I think you look fine This is the first Your shirt's just like a white t-shirt That's a little, I guess that gives you a drawn Kind of wearing the uniform
[00:06:22] We're on hiatus from filming The Tick Which is why I was able to see Solo last night come in here, record this today And I'm going and getting on a plane And flying to London Which David, I should explain this to David Because I know Ben knows
[00:06:33] London is, it is a city Okay In another country Yeah, the capital of the United Kingdom Wait, but how do you know? Well I've traveled to London on vacation before Or maybe he's read it in a book Oh sure, both of those things are true
[00:06:50] But also I lived in London For a lot of my life From 1995 to 2008 Wow Can we start at the podcast? I'm very confused Can we start blimpcast? Yes, okay Blimp check? I forget what it was called It's like, what's your origin story? Yeah, yeah
[00:07:09] It's like, I wish someone could You want my origin? Yeah We gotta bring the castans in To fucking explain to them Who are your people? Yeah That's what they asked me Coming into British control, passport control And I was playing the Sims on my phone I don't know
[00:07:24] That moment can go fuck itself I can't imagine that there's a person on earth Who was satisfied by that moment Cause that moment is written for someone in the audience to go Uh-huh The best reaction I think I've heard someone have to that moment is like Whatever
[00:07:41] You know, so like, okay The second they said Who are your people? I turned to you and started shaking my hand You did the solo Mezzo mezzo I Solo Look, I have a feeling that that was something Castan had thought of a zillion years ago
[00:08:02] And was always like, oh man If I ever did like a Hansola movie I'll finally get to put that in And that's like a funny thing to like say In an interview where you're like When you're like promoting Dreamcatcher You know what I always thought?
[00:08:15] Yeah, I always thought it was like Cause he didn't have any family So it's like, yeah It's like a pseudonym almost Like a nom de plume Incredibly dumb when it's in a movie And also an hour and a half later He starts talking about his dad
[00:08:28] He does talk about his dad He does talk about his dad, yeah He's abandoned his family name I read an interview with Mike Ryan And the castans today The Mike Ryan did with the castans In which they make that clear Not clear in the movie
[00:08:40] But that drives me crazy Because then it feels like Oh, so what? Their plan in solo duo is to have You get like that joke Solo duo is that would be the name of the second solo movie But is the plan to then have
[00:08:54] The explanation of the family That he was lying about And then reveal what his real last name is I don't give a shit Well, it's that classic prequel problem Where they're like Haven't you always wondered How blah blah blah And I'm like, no, not really
[00:09:08] Like honestly, wasn't really thinking about it Now let me ask you this This is the first big question I want to throw out here Sure Okay Would this movie work better As an original screenplay Than set in the Star Wars universe Not being these specific characters
[00:09:25] I mean, I think 80% yes, 20% no Yeah, like you'd need to change it But like you wouldn't need to change it Like a lot I think the 20% no Is the stuff that is less valuable in the movie And I think The characters as written
[00:09:42] If you just hired actors and said Hey, do whatever you want Would work totally independently And I think it actually is It's somewhat to the movie's detriment That you're constantly comparing them to The other actors who have played them Your other understanding of the characters in your history
[00:09:57] No, I think that's I mean that was my take coming out of the press screening Was like, right, it's a pretty fun little Star Wars caper It's a pretty bad Han Solo movie It's a terrible Han Solo movie And it's a pretty mediocre prequel
[00:10:08] It's a pretty solid Star Wars caper Yeah, I think so It's functional enough You know, it is a gentleman's sex Like I do think that's just where it is See, I started watching it in the first 30 minutes Oh, boy, me too We're on the same page, people
[00:10:23] Right, because a lot of people think, oh, it takes a while to get going First 30 minutes exactly what I wanted out of this movie And then from then on out The balloon just kept on losing some air So I started out and I was like
[00:10:33] This is like a gentleman's seven or eight Like this isn't great, but I'm really Sure, you're in me too, I felt the same way Right, by about the halfway point I was like, it's a six I was inflating it, it's a gentleman's six
[00:10:43] And by the end of it I was like Is this a gentleman's five? I think it's a six I mean, my problem, like so I saw it I had a press screening And you know, the usual for the other ones Even Rogue One
[00:10:53] The press screening was the Monday Before the Thursday release So just three days early You get very little time And there was one press screening There was no junket Like no one had seen it essentially And... The premiere was only a couple days before that
[00:11:07] The premiere is either like lined up or right before Yeah And everyone's there You know, and it's like, it really was like Anyone who's anyone So Ben and I weren't invited It's a press screening that's really buzzing With excitement Like even Rogue One
[00:11:19] Which obviously is more of like a double Than a home run But like, you know it's like People are still like, wow There are a couple times that you've brought me to These screenings that are like This is the first time this movie's being seen Sure, yeah
[00:11:33] Like, hey, filet, we did that In the post And there is some excitement to just like I have no other opinions to cloud My judgment in this movie No one's like tweeted things I might spoil it by me wondering what I'm gonna see Like I just sit down
[00:11:46] And I'm just gonna fucking digest it And whereas with the solo press screening The premiere had happened a few days earlier In LA, but yeah It was in the morning The theater wasn't even full You were kind of just like Oh, here we are
[00:11:57] Here we are to see a movie What theater? Lincoln Square Cool You know, but like it's They're just, you know It did not have that feeling of like Oh fuck We're so pumped up Like it was more just like We're about to unwrap a new Star Wars movie
[00:12:10] Yeah, it's like, oh, this is We'll see what this is, right? Like people were kind of like I don't know, maybe it's good I mean, obviously the bad precedent So to that point I was just looking here at the I&B trivia for the movie Okay
[00:12:23] And here's something I had no idea about Top trivia story Solo a Star Wars story, okay Top trivia item Phil Lord and Christopher Miller Left the film in June 2017 True Only three weeks away from filming Three weeks away from Finishing principal photography Yeah What? It's crazy
[00:12:43] I've never heard of this You've never heard of this? I've never heard of this Is this like your bit? Yeah So Go with it No, wait, I This is news to me Well, it might actually be news to you Yeah Is it? Okay Yeah What happened? Phil Lord
[00:13:01] They've had this now Wait, you know Whenever, when does Lucasfilm by Get bought by Disney? I forget 2013 Something like that Basically, I feel like the initial slate They were like, we're going to have a trilogy We're going to have this Rogue One movie
[00:13:17] And we're going to definitely have a Boba Fett prequel And a Han Solo prequel Those are the original basket of ideas Right And they kept on being like Rogue One 100% happening New Skywalker trilogy 100% happening And then unannounced They were like We're working on a couple mystery scripts
[00:13:36] Everyone thought were a solo film, a Boba Fett film And a Yoda movie Oh really? I didn't know about the Yoda movie Please don't do that I think that one is sort of fallen by the wayside And been replaced by the Kenobi movie
[00:13:48] Put it in the wayside forever Yaddle movie Okay 100% I'm interested What if the Yaddle movie was like Ryan Reynolds buried It's just her in the hole Yeah, it's just in the hole It's like the Revenant It's just like her eating the force And like shaking
[00:14:04] Or it's like Secret Honor It's like Yaddle having a mental breakdown I brought up Yaddle I think at the solo press screening And someone was like The fuck is Yaddle? And I was like right No one knows what I'm talking about A Yaddle under the influence Yeah Yaddle
[00:14:18] Cause right, cause people were asked Spoiler alert By the way we're gonna talk about the whole fucking movie Yeah Spoiler alert, spoiler So Darth Maul's in this movie Darth Maul's in this movie It's a sequel to Unbreakable And someone was asking Unbreakable Someone was asking me
[00:14:31] Like Darth Maul questions Cause they knew I was like a Star Wars nerd And for some reason I brought up Yaddle And they were like What the fuck is Yaddle? And I felt bad What are you Yaddling on about? What are you Yaddling about? Uh, yeah
[00:14:43] So Darth Maul being in the movie The secret, the hot hand I've been holding under the table For the last six months I've seen You've known this for a long time I will not say anything further Sure You can ascertain Figure it out Yup Um, so this movie
[00:14:57] Yeah, so this movie got ordered Pretty much right away Yeah, Lucasfilm Alright 2012 is when this sale Okay Happens I know that when He had already started George Lucas was already developing this movie Before he sold Lucasfilm Kazan apparently had always wanted to do this
[00:15:12] My assumption is Kazan was kind of like I'd love to do a hot solo movie And this was before he got brought on To rewrite Force Awakens With JJ Abrams He was already working on this I think this got delayed a little bit
[00:15:24] By him going over to that Um, but that was like This was part of their initial slate Of things being developed Exactly And so when in February 2013 A Bob Iger says, yes We have a Kazan written solo movie We have a Simon Kinberg written We have a Kaz-Dins
[00:15:43] They actually just said Kazan at the time But you know, yes His son Jonathan Kazan Right Gets involved In fact gets involved when Kazan Is switched over to Force Awakens Sure Jonathan is brought into sort of supplementing Yeah So Kimberg was writing Boba Fett Was that movie?
[00:16:00] Josh Trank was going to direct it He got fired later Yeah I didn't even get really, you know It just didn't happen Can I say something And Ben cut this out in advance Please cut this out Like you did all the summer camp talk Yeah Um
[00:16:12] I heard a rumor this week That they are making a Boba Fett movie But that it's gonna be a Western Seems too top secret I'm sorry You gotta cut that Cut that out Yeah, yeah That's the kind of like Fucking boiling material
[00:16:28] That like, you know, well this podcast could get sued Yeah For that kind of thought Michael Avenetti gave me that information 2015 July They announced Han Solo Movie It's gonna be released May 25th, 2018 Gonna be directed by Phil Lord and Christopher Miller So this is the big thing
[00:16:49] All the times that people have been whispering About this solo movie Everyone was like, no one wants to see that Why are they doing this? It's true No one is excited At any point about this idea Until Lord and Miller get brought on
[00:16:59] And then people are like, oh so maybe it'll be like So, you know, they've done all these winky movies It'll be clever And it'll be sort of like Well that's a different energy than any star horse thing we've seen before
[00:17:09] And also here are the guys who have made a career Off of taking bad ideas And making them work Like especially the two you think of are 21 Drop Street and the Lego Movie Both times people were like, ah that's not a You can't make that a movie
[00:17:22] But also like Claudio with a Chance of Meepals Which was one of my favorite picture books Favorite picture books growing up Sure, not a lot of plot Doesn't have an narrative Not a lot of plot It's just like, it's essentially like a Travel log of like the different
[00:17:35] Food that reigns in this city There are no characters really Can you confirm something for me though? Yes Is there a leak in the boat? Still gets me every time Isn't that two? It's two I just love it Two is also good
[00:17:50] Yeah, because there's a leak in the boat Yeah And fucking Wolf Forte is great in two Sure I think you like the Mollat Yeah, you like them because it's like I mean they're kind of big Oh Meatballs are big Big meatball That's cool There's a scientist character
[00:18:11] Who makes a device that turns water into food But then it gets stuck in the clouds So it starts raining food But the food's huge That's awesome Big food And so people are into it It becomes like a tourist destination But then the food is too much
[00:18:23] And it's like It's like It's like It's like It's like a tourist destination But then the food is too much They're getting weighed down And then The sequel is They take all the excess food And they like ship it off to some like
[00:18:37] Trash island to get rid of it Clean up the town But the food just started mutating And it's like food monsters So there's like A taco dial Yeah A taco dial It's like a A taco taco dial So Phil Lord and Chris Miller
[00:18:52] And then they realize he has sour cream And they go Oh my god, it's a taco dial Supreme I know you love Phil Lord and Chris Miller Five cloudy points I do You're basically like huge things I'm totally in a tank for them Been so since Clone High
[00:19:05] I would, yeah Okay, so here's what I have to say Yeah I don't love Clone High I know that's like a really crazy thing to say On the internet Because people really do love Clone High Yeah I don't hate it It was just never in my show
[00:19:17] I really enjoy cloudy Yeah Really enjoy 21 Jump Street And those are both movies that I like Did not rush to see And then when I saw them I was like Wow, that was funny You don't like 22 And I was gonna say And I love the Lego movie Right
[00:19:30] That's the master piece That's a special movie That's very cool Yeah I don't like 22 I think 22 is like close to bad Like And it sort of like indulges all the things about them That I don't really like Sure Yeah I rewatched it recently
[00:19:44] And it was a little better than I remember it being at The Ice Cube stuff in that Even though Ice Cubes Pro Is like A slightly embarrassing in my opinion See, I just agree I think that's the strongest part of the film We'll fight about this movie Funny
[00:19:56] No, I just think that that should sexist Like I just don't like that stuff Like just get that plot out of here It's 24 You don't like disapproving dad I don't like dad saying Don't fuck my daughter who's a grown up Like I just
[00:20:05] I don't want that plot anymore Yeah I keep it out of the movie Yeah, I mean I agree with that I think that sucks I agree with that I like Ice Cube is a scary guy Yeah Cause he's funny But no, but I do agree
[00:20:15] That's a plot line We never need to see it again I hate it It's one thing if it's like It's never It's never great honestly But you like blockers Because it's She's also a grown woman You were a big fan of blockers Blockers is funny because
[00:20:26] The parents are fools in that Right Like you know the kids are Why I like blockers Like the parents stuff in blockers Is funny but I like the kids And the funniest stuff is like Baron Holtz Who's the one who's like Yeah, I want my daughter to fuck
[00:20:37] Well, I also like that That he's there the whole time But he's never really on their Like crusade He more just wants to hang out That guy has gotten so fucking good He's really good in that movie He's less in that movie He's someone I've almost
[00:20:51] Made a tears I know and he's someone Yeah, he's fine He's kind of like high energy Like I was never like a big Like Baron Holtz fan No but he's I thought he was just big But come so funny and like Legitimately a very good actor
[00:21:02] Yeah, he's a pretty good Yeah, I mean credit to Ike Yeah I like Ike I think Walked into that one Did you see blockers? I haven't You like Ike? Ike He's funny in like the neighbors movies Show me Yeah, I like him a lot in those
[00:21:20] He's really good in snatch Which I continue to stand for I still haven't seen him Yeah I do like this guy Yeah, he's a good Ben Scumbum kind of Totally He's like But his role usually was more like I mean your movie for 10 minutes
[00:21:32] And I'm just bringing a lot of energy I feel like he always has a goatee And you're like Oh, this guy is fucking a scumbag He's always got scuzzy looking face Yeah He also was the guard in Suicide Squad
[00:21:45] Who they clearly set up to get his come up And then just disappear from the movie I'm sure they filmed a come up And so they just I'm sure they filmed six come up There's like there's eight plots in that movie That just they forgot to do
[00:21:56] Like doesn't Scott Eastwood die in that movie And like it's heroic Hey, I forgot Scott Eastwood was In that movie He's in that movie But let's get back I think he like dies And it's like oh shit we lost Chad You're just like who's Chad?
[00:22:09] And then you're like That was supposed to be like Cheetah's father I'm sure it's some shit where his character Was secretly supposed to be a teaser For some other character It turns out he's I don't know He's Mr. Mixaplexer's cousin Fucking DC Universe
[00:22:27] I can't wait to watch all the movies they've announced though I'm so excited And you know what it's stressful How many bonus episodes are gonna have to do Cause we're gonna have to do Shazam We're gonna have to do Black Adam
[00:22:36] We're gonna have to do Birds of Prey We're gonna have to do Harley and Joker We're gonna have to do Suicide Squad 2 Man of Steel 2 We're gonna have to do The Batman The Batman Green Lantern Corps Yes 100% Isn't there something like Chloe Zhao is gonna direct Fucking
[00:22:53] No that was Captain Marvel That was Captain Marvel She met for Captain Marvel You're thinking of the Birds of Prey move I actually was joking She met for Black Widow Oh you're right We still got Cyborg coming up Cyborg coming up They're bringing Bergman back from the dead
[00:23:08] For that one Who they got We got Flashpoint Wonder Woman 2 stuck in development hell It might be Yeah right there Let's not devote a lot of energy to that one No my hair thing is they're just They're always like let's one up to Alright we got Spielberg
[00:23:20] Spielberg's gonna make a movie Black Hawk Yeah like him yeah he's gonna make a movie Who else we got We got fucking Scorsese Okay he'll make a movie Ava Duna Perna He's new gods Peter Jackson's trying to get a movie To the pole James Cameron
[00:23:32] He's doing a movie Who else we got Michael Cimino He's alive He's back he's doing a movie We got Teen Titans go to the movies We got Teen Titans go to the polls We got Teen Titans Pokemon go to the polls Do you imagine in this boardroom that
[00:23:43] They're all vaping Yeah they're all It's all like it's 20 Affleck clones vaping Yeah so we got to do a bird's prey Like Thomas Pinchin is gonna direct the movie Like I'm just trying to think of like the most Loot of crispers that they can announce next
[00:23:58] Like who is it Ida Lupino she's back from the dead We support female filmmakers Ida Lupino is gonna make a black canary movie DC has always prided themselves Who's the one who's like a magician lady Oh Zentana Zentana yeah Ida Lupino is gonna make a Zentana
[00:24:18] Yeah sure yeah great No I was just like you know how like Elaine May is making a Zentana movie DC was so like was like Just fucking waving their arms about the fact We're like we're doing Wonder Woman Before Marvel's done a female superhero
[00:24:31] We're doing Cyborg before Black Panther Sure sure What if their big thing was like We're gonna be the first studio to hire a Dead director At Cinemacon they have like a Frankenstein machine And they like put electrodes onto a corpse And they're like Rang is doing some shimps
[00:24:57] What's going on Frank Borsot just signed on for Solomon Grundy King Vidor himself I'm running out of DC villains Or heroes whatever Hawkman King Vidor's doing Hawkman Can I pat myself in the back and call my own shot Sure I was at a Comic Con
[00:25:18] It was something when we were promoting the tech pilot I think I can't remember which one it was But I was there at the bar with Chris McCullough A.K. Jackson Public creator of Venture Brothers Sure
[00:25:33] He's a great guy who I just realized we should have on the show at some point Let's have him on I love how you occasionally are just like Oh shit, I actually know Michelle Obama You know what?
[00:25:43] And she text me and says that she listens to the show That's weird She loves it She likes when the dog is off the leash Yeah, she's like just listen to Lincoln Dog's off the leash Oh boy Sometimes people call me David Dogs
[00:26:01] People who like me are called David Dogs People that understand that But now also you've become the dog when you're Silly Right, I'm the dog When you get silly you become the dog and the dog is off the leash Yeah
[00:26:14] Jackson Public and I were at this like fucking hotel bar Where the convention was Watching What? Watching attendees who were still in their cosplay outfits Sure Like ordered Drunkenly trying to make passes at each other It was like that last night of summer camp Like dance
[00:26:35] Like who's gonna So who is the best one So there was a guy dressed up as Solomon Grundy He's just swinging and missing so hard Uh-huh And we just were like for 45 minutes Like at a fair distance, right? Far away from him Just making Solomon Grundy jokes
[00:26:49] About this guy trying to wedge himself into circles And like get attention And then he'd like slowly walk away And I just at one point went Solomon Grundy born on a Monday Not his night Pretty good It's pretty good After he like missed Swung and missed with like
[00:27:07] Princess bubblegum or whatever It was exactly that And he like wasn't being aggressive He was clearly the one person Who didn't have a pack of friends with him Well also dressing up as Solomon Grundy Is not like a good move if you're looking a You know Look hot
[00:27:24] Right Like basically a Frankenstein man You're like an unintelligent Frankenstein man Who lives in the sewers You got raggedy clothes and muck on your face Not his night Look at this he's got four knives in him in this one I'm showing Ben some pictures
[00:27:40] You would love Solomon Grundy We should get Ben attached to the director of Solomon Grundy movie D.C. would take that Unfortunately it turns out that Moses Of the Bible is directing that one We here at D.C. We brought it back He brought you the 10 commandments
[00:27:58] The actual ones That's the movie For the listener at home I like that joke so much I swatted my mic away from my face I almost swung it a full 360th Almost hit me in the face Alright So Phil Lord and Chris Miller They get hired
[00:28:12] To make the movie And everyone went Interesting this is going to have an off beat energy Off the hump And they do have that rep where it's like Yeah like you were saying Like well every time they get hired
[00:28:22] You're kind of like that sounds like a bad idea And then they do a good job So I guess this What sounded like a bad idea They'll probably do a good job And look at the very least It's not going to be boring
[00:28:30] They're not going to do the obvious Stayed kind of like didactic prequel They're going to do something weird with this And then they start casting There's a big fucking thing For months and months and months Every single male actor Under the age of 32 Other than Griffin Newman
[00:28:46] Auditions for Han Solo I didn't take it personally It's fine I was literally the only person Who did an audition It's one of those things where No one was excited for a Han Solo movie And everyone was like No one can really do What Harrison Ford did
[00:28:58] And yet everyone was like But who's going to play Han Solo What a hot part It was like Rami Malek And it was like Does anyone want to see him play Han Solo? I remember obviously Miles Teller Was in the running I'm trying to think of who else
[00:29:10] Was a shortlist What's his name? Baby Driver Ansel Elgort Right There was another Not Jack Courtney But another kind of potato head guy Like that Oh I think Jack Rainer Yeah sure Was in the sort of final running I think he's talented I like him in
[00:29:25] I like him more when he plays scumbags Like I like him in like Free Fire or whatever You know like But Han Solo is very tricky Because I think people Here's some other ones I got some other names for you Dave Franco Right Not as small people
[00:29:39] You know Harrison Ford's tall He's like 6'2 Yeah it's weird Aaron Taylor Johnson It really is like a list of like Nick Robinson Who's the guy who was just in Love Simon Rami Malek Like he said Ed Westwick That sounds pretty bad No no no
[00:29:53] Let's not talk about him James Toback Clark Gable Really? Do you know what's crazy? I looked at the list of hosts From like two seasons ago on SNL And there were literally Five hosts from that season Who would never be allowed back On the show right now
[00:30:11] Like who? Like Louis C.K. Sure Casey Affleck He shouldn't have been hosting But there were like four or five From one season You know that Casey Affleck Duncan sketch is funny though From that episode Tom Felton Former Draco Malphoy Logan Lerman Chris Pratt That's not true
[00:30:31] Scott Eastwood's on this list This was a wide net Was Efron involved ever? I don't think he was Which is weird because he was sort of like Somebody who tested for every role But yeah But this is also the problem Is that it was like
[00:30:43] Oh god Han Solo Everyone loves him So charismatic So charming So confident But there are a couple tricky things About Han Solo that I think Often get lost in People's minds You know that they don't really break down Which is one
[00:30:57] Han Solo always has a chip on his shoulder Yes true There's a little bit of an anger to the character Yes He's an asshole But not in the way Where he's like mean to people It's more like he just has Like a sort of simmering energy
[00:31:09] Because here's the thing that I analyzed In the first 30 minutes of this movie Where I started getting really excited That I felt like they were getting The character right Han Solo always acts high status But he's always low status Sure Han Solo is always kind of
[00:31:21] In a put-upon situation Which is in one way or another He's either backed in a corner He's surrounded by people He doesn't like He owes someone money Whatever it is Whatever it is But he always acts like he's above it But that's why he's a little annoying
[00:31:32] Or not but little He's sort of floating in return of the Jedi Because at that point They're just like General Solo, welcome back And he's like hi He's a little Like you want to do something? He's like sure He's kind of like boring middle aged
[00:31:43] Like I've settled down I was a little wild in my younger years It really is kind of Yeah truly But you're totally right Right The other thing though And we'll talk about it Is I do feel like this Movie made the move of like
[00:31:55] Well why don't we show how Han used to be A little nicer And then like The world kind of ground him down a bit And by the end of it He'll be more like Han's solo-ey You know like He'll get betrayed by one person He's gonna
[00:32:07] You know that girl's gonna screw him over That's kind of the casino royale approach Right? Like casino royale is the most successful version of that But it works because it's not so strictly a prequel It's just like this is a younger James Bond Yeah
[00:32:19] It's not trying to fit into a specific timeline You're right though Casino Royale is kind of doing that But it's not like in casino royale James Bond At the beginning it's like Secret agent Nothing bad about that You know like But I think that's why the Vesperlin plotline
[00:32:32] Works so well in that movie Why she's so good And also Casino Royale is the first James Bond book Basically And so like it is Right They're going to the characters Reverse engineer it Around Doctor No Which is a big difference
[00:32:44] They're not having to play off of expectations Of literally He has to get to this point It's James Bond We're cool He's been done so many times This is like right It's Han's solo He's been played by one person That's it It is that thing like the name
[00:32:57] Where they're like Don't you ever wonder like Who really put that chip on his shoulder Don't care No I don't care There's no moment in any of the Original movies where Han's solo is like Back on Corelli I had it rough Like I grew up on the streets
[00:33:11] He never says shit like that Now this is the other problem Okay Connor Atlethe A friend of the show Always says I for years thought I was a fan of Star Wars And then I realized I don't really like Star Wars movies I like Han's solo movies
[00:33:26] It's a good take, sure Right And I think the thing that makes Star Wars work Is that you have Han's solo Who doesn't want to be in a Star Wars movie And is a little bit outside of it And putting that character at the center
[00:33:38] Kind of fucks the movie That's fair And this is what everyone was predicting And I watching this feel like Not as disasterously It suffers a little bit From the same thing that happens In the Lost World Jurassic Park In order to take Ian Malcolm The fun character
[00:33:54] Who cuts the shit You take the off-ball guy You put him on the ball And then You kind of sand off the edges A little bit I agree with all that Just Connor like this movie Do we know? Don't know, sure Don't know I will ask him
[00:34:06] I'm curious to see But I would guess That he would feel like Oh this is literally a film About that character But they're taking away The energy that makes him Interesting Yeah You know And I do feel like this Is a movie that's missing Some verb to it
[00:34:21] It's missing a certain crackle Which even if The Lord and Miller version was bad Who fucking knows Will never know, right? They shot 90% of the movie The effects were unfinished So we'll never see their cut It's like a fucking Snyder thing It's the exact same thing
[00:34:34] There will never be a release Cut of their version But they shot enough of it That there is pretty much A narrative With green screens That you could watch, right? I think that's accurate I mean from what I've heard I've read a lot of reporting
[00:34:46] And then heard some rumors Yeah, you know basically They were three weeks away From finishing Right, but I think the implication was They weren't And there was going to be a lot of reshoots coming Like you know That was one of the reasons Disney was very alarmed
[00:34:58] And apparently they would I mean the thing that everyone said Because every actor in this movie Pretty much has said Things got a lot better when Ron Howard took over Yeah That was in terms of work experience Right It was a much easier shoot He's a pro
[00:35:12] Also they had laid out a lot of track work All the design work had been done I mean he inherited That's true Other than recasting Paul Bettany Every character had been established The designs were there The droids were there The sets were built They had their key creatives
[00:35:25] Bradford Young who's the MVP of this movie The most interesting aspect of this movie Is just the way it looks Because it's the most It looks interesting It's the most interesting looking Star Wars movie In a while It's the movie that's played the most With the actual Sunlighter
[00:35:37] I think that's Jedi's Gorgeously shot action I agree with you But I think this is Actually my favorite Looking Star Wars movie I think it looks good But what I would say Yes Lord and Miller hired Bradford Young They won And Bradford Young to be clear
[00:35:52] He's the somewhat up and coming He's pretty young He's the best of his generation He's like mid 30s He's a very exciting cinematographer Who he shot Selma And then he shot A rival Most violent year And then he shot a rival He has a very foggy look
[00:36:04] He loves He's like the Gordon Willis of our time He likes things dark He likes dark He likes having scenes Giving them one specific color palette And I love that in the movie You have scenes that are just like Blue The only lighting is blue You know?
[00:36:20] So but They hire Bradford Young I think that's interesting Yes But I cannot imagine how their movie Works with the Bradford Young thing Because like Bradford Young is making it He's making like vanishing point He's making this really like Gritty grimy crime movie And like Lord and Miller
[00:36:38] The stuff that feels like them in this movie Which is very few and far between But like that moment where it's like You just clicked that rock You know that's not That's you just made a clicking noise Like those fun little bits They don't match with that vibe
[00:36:50] No but I also think And they've never made a visually interesting movie Apart from like The animated ones obviously are nice But like it's not like 21 Jump Street looks That interesting Those two films are like solidly shot Yeah they're fine For fine I think Lego Movie looks incredible
[00:37:04] Looks great And I give them a lot of credit Because that wasn't the obvious approach To shoot it like it was Stop motion, small scale photography Lego Movie's amazing Right But I mean yeah We'll never see it like you said But when I was watching it
[00:37:19] I was like I don't see how this works with like Goofy or like But by all accounts what they did on the two Jump Street movies And what they were doing on this is We want the time to really experiment With these scenes and find unexpected things
[00:37:33] Which is what you kind of feel like this movie needs Is just weird offbeat Energy and angles to things Right But from all the reporting we've read One they ran into the problem of Lawrence Kasen Wrote this movie Right And Kasen was his character
[00:37:46] They're not shooting what I wrote Yeah they're not shooting what I wrote Or they're not shooting it the way I want them to No I think they were also junking lines I think it was both Yeah And Kasen and also like
[00:37:54] Not only are they not shooting what I wrote But it's sort of the vibe from what Kasen's interviews Have been like They're not doing a Han Solo movie They're just doing their movie Like this is a Han Solo movie Like they're not getting the character
[00:38:04] Right and then it gets into this whole thing With everyone having He's a real guardian of Han Solo Everyone having all this anxiety about Alden Erich Who I think is the fucking best He's great I think he's good in the movie I think he's solid in the movie
[00:38:15] Yeah But I do feel I watch this and I There were moments in this film where I'm in the middle of filming right now I'm very stressed out all the time Aw Wait can you put a violin under the fist? Put a fucking thumb Whatever I don't know
[00:38:30] I'm not asking for sympathy I'm just saying There were moments I was watching this movie And not just with him But with like all the actors I just almost started feeling a panic attack Trying to imagine their production experience Right You know And especially with him
[00:38:43] Because there was so much skepticism Around anyone playing Han Solo Yeah Then when he got cast People were like He doesn't look like Harrison Ford Sure he's quite short He's quite small Yeah You know this and that But there was still that excitement Because of Hale Caesar
[00:38:58] Where people were like He's such a talent The people who had seen Hale Caesar Were like That's an interesting choice You're not hiring someone to do an impression Right And then when the Lord Miller stuff came out Ron Howard took over There were all these stories
[00:39:08] That it was like Lucasfilm hired an acting coach And they have someone working with him Which I think people misrepresented As he doesn't know how to act They're hiring someone to teach them how to act Which is I think they brought someone on Because everyone was stressed out
[00:39:20] About him being too far off from Harrison Ford Maybe But from what I read He needed to be calmed down And he really loved having this person Like help him through Whatever Like maybe he was feeling the scale of it I don't know Which apparently it was like
[00:39:34] Basically like everyone was like Oh no they had an acting coach But all the reporting red was like The acting coach was actually really helpful for him He liked it I'll say this too Like the only acting teacher I ever really liked working with
[00:39:44] The one who Ellen Burson recommended to you Right, who actually died about a year ago Elizabeth Kemp She was an incredible person But she Her main sort of like Sort of gig was She would be the on set acting coach For like
[00:39:59] Five people who have been nominated for Or won Academy Awards Right Like Bradley Cooper And Hugh Jackman And Jennifer Connolly And people like that Where whatever movie they were doing They would pay her to fly down and be on set with them Every day
[00:40:11] And work on the scenes with them And that doesn't get reported on Sure And people don't go like Oh my god Bradley Cooper doesn't know how to act He needed her on set every day for American Sniper Right And it's like that's his process Yeah
[00:40:21] But everyone's knives were out For Eric so much And I think If you're a young dude There's a lot of expectation There's a lot of pressure And then the directors get fired And the studio executives are going Is he too silly? Is he too broad?
[00:40:33] Is the character this? Is the character that? You want someone to just be working with you And going like You're good You're good And also like here's your baseline Let's get you here Yeah Like if you're worried that you're too big Or too small Right
[00:40:45] Like well this is what we should be aiming for Right There are moments in this movie where I feel I get some excitement from his performance Me too I don't think he's ever bad in the movie I think at his worst moments He is totally solid
[00:40:56] And he's carrying the film I think at his best moments He's really got his own thing going Which is kind of fun and engaging That's kind of my take Is I actually like the move His performance I like the movie I like his performance
[00:41:07] But to me it's just He's got his own thing going And I think it's basically unified And good I just don't I don't know that it's Han Solo Like it's just nothing like the Harrison Ford Performance I feel like he doesn't have Maybe he has somebody
[00:41:22] He doesn't have as much charisma As some of the other supporting characters Agreed But I also think that's the problem With making Han Solo the lead Right He's not there to make fun of me He's not able to do his function Right Yeah
[00:41:35] In the beginning he is a little bit When it's more about him Which I love this section Just him as like a fucking small Scared like Connor He's like the artful Dodger or something You know And you know the other problem is
[00:41:46] Yes, Donald Glover shows up in the movie He's one doing an excellent Interpretate It's a really smart Sort of Doing land-up Yes He's got the voice But it doesn't sound like He's doing the voice too hard You know what I mean Like he just
[00:42:00] The way he's carrying himself Is bright You know He's also just like Donald Glover is He's a very charismatic actor And he's a guy who is just So fully in the pocket right now He's in some insane zone Of just like artistic power
[00:42:14] He's having one of the greatest months Any American artist has ever had I know this movie was shot A while ago, what have you But it's kind of an unfair advantage That Lando gets to function Like Han Solo in this movie You're right Yes, that's the thing Although
[00:42:29] Then it takes sort of a weird With the seriousness Yes He's juggling all those things And trying to figure out Whether or not he cares Whether or not he likes you You know that sort of stuff Now there's a thing that this movie sets up
[00:42:41] A, in this first 30-minute chunk We have the best character in the film Who's Proxima This is a huge summer for Proximas In Blockbusters Yeah, because it's Proxima Midnight in Infinity War Played by Carrie Coon Yep, great performance And then just Her name is just Proxima And this
[00:42:56] Lady Proxima Lady Proxima Played by Academy Award winner Linda Hunt That's right That wet worm thing That giant worm lady Who's allergic to the sun Fucking best character ever I was watching this And rocking it And she's like Oh, Han Solo Unbelievable You must bring me my hyperfuel
[00:43:14] And he's trying to out-trick her She's like No, no And she likes it dark Yeah Which I'm a fan of Love it dark I love it dark I love the look of that set I love the look of her assistant Who has the like Retractable mask Me too
[00:43:29] I also just like Honestly, I get that the movie Kind of needs to get off Karelia fast In some ways But like I would kind of enjoy Like a little Oliver Twist thing With her as fake And like just like Ten more minutes of that 100%
[00:43:42] And then this whole chunk Of the movie I'm like When they go to this space That's sort of like the immigration Yes Like I'm like This is where Star Wars Works best Is when it's Sort of really strong analogs To current day struggles
[00:43:54] I just want to pull you back For one second though Please Because the movie Does not have a crawl Yeah But it does do something new Yeah It does Blutex A long time ago in a galaxy Far far away And then just has a couple
[00:44:07] And then it has more Blutex Right For some they've tried this They keep trying to figure out Crack the non crawl code I don't think any of that's Necessary Right I mean the information they give you Is pretty much established Within the next 90 seconds Of the film
[00:44:19] That is true I think it's more of a mood Thing than an Information thing I kind of like the text I don't know that it works I'll tell you what I was Thinking I like it is a lawless time I like that But I was also thinking
[00:44:30] Like if they're trying to Establish a different tone And mood for these Like spin off movies Like something as simple As just having open And credits Would throw a very different vibe That would be radical If you're not going to do The flying thing
[00:44:44] Like when he was going Through the opening car chase I was like I kind of want to see Like production designed by Like underneath That would be radical Right You know but no one does That I know Because like the Marvel universe movies
[00:44:57] Like I feel like there's not a lot of movies That do the over You know big blockbuster movies That do that No now the films That have to position themselves As major events Right I love opening credits Me too I mean you know how
[00:45:08] Obsessed I am with credits Right Yes Love it I like the opening title Like I like the little Weird holographic Prediction thing But yeah Anyway He's a little street boy I love and He's got a girlfriend And I was just like You know what
[00:45:23] This is good Star Wars Writing because anyone who Thinks they don't like Would be able to totally connect to this Here are two poor kids Sure They live in the slums They're trying to get out Find a better life Yes I think They go to this weird office
[00:45:35] It's like okay this is an immigration struggle This is them trying to get out of poverty This is them trying to find A better sort of class of citizenship You know They get separated I was like all of this stuff Is like very Right You live very into
[00:45:48] I'm also into the scene I like Proxima She's cool I just think that she's Got the right ideas And that we should like Think about her Like a candidate in 2018 100% Something like that You know Proxima's just I think she's just a good person Yeah So yes
[00:46:02] But what you're saying About the Ellis Island Whatever it is You know this sort of like big Transit hall I love that where it's like He's so fucked Yeah Like so many people In the Star Wars universe What does he do He has to sign up
[00:46:16] Like that's like You're always wondering Who wants to be a stormtrooper Shittiest job in the world Like I'm watching this point Get shot Like going to that job Is this movie great Like super fucking high functional entertainment Walking out of the press screening Everyone was like
[00:46:29] Those first half That first half was rough What are they talking about Like it's underlit It's so dark Nothing's happening I agree I'm just saying And then they're like And then you know When the story kicks in Then it's good I don't agree
[00:46:42] I really like the first half And I think there's more Tension Yes I think there's more tension In them trying to Get away from Proxima's people And the authorities Than there is in the rest Of the movie That's sort of opening chase stuff Them trying to get through
[00:46:55] The speeder chase I love him being overly confident Thinking he's going to pull off This kind of cinematic move And then getting caught Like so into all this Loving all the design Loving all the creatures 100% it Then the flash forward three years Sure They get separated
[00:47:09] I just, what There's also the solo moment Which fuck that we were talking about I'm not talking about it ever again What's your favorite kind of cup John Robin Blake Yeah I mean that's what it is Right But at least in John That is just more
[00:47:25] Nolan going like Wink Yeah Robin Whereas this is like Han Herschowitz No I go by my middle name Solo I go by my middle name It's here on the ID card Read it out for me please Yeah Solo's a nice name But I love that cup
[00:47:40] Where they're like You know Empire You're going to have a great time Cut to right Right Him in the mud Just like Go charge You have to win for your empire That way Classic like fuck And Star Wars like You know Luke's looking out at the two sunsets
[00:47:55] He wants to get out of the suburbs You know This is You know The Ewoks are like The Viet Cong You know the Not the Viet Cong But you know The Vietnam War Yeah Yeah Yeah I was like so into all this And then when we're introduced to
[00:48:12] Beckett Val and Ria Uh-huh Three hustlers Who kind of are aspirational figures Of a higher functioning Version of what Han is trying to be A great buy in life But they seem to have it together Yeah And I was like This is kind of cool
[00:48:27] They become the people that he models Himself after That's what it feels like they're setting up That it's almost like Beckett is To Han Solo What In the beginning of Last Crusade When young Indiana Jones sees the Fedora guy Yeah You know Yeah And it's like
[00:48:46] Because Beckett's even got the holster He's got the vibe Yeah But it's that thing It's like Han Solo's like Right I don't have to slave away in the Empire I could actually just like Be this guy Right Like I could do this shit
[00:48:58] And there's such a nice driving force Of like He's got to get back He's got to make it bigger So that he can get back And find his love Yeah He's still got this motivation Because he's separated from Kira Played adequately by Amelia Clark In this movie Who
[00:49:11] I know She's Somewhat of a big star these days I do almost The whole time I'm thinking Like She's so short That like She's not going to dwarf Alden Erin right She's like 5'1 She's so tiny Because I remember in the Terminator movie Like Jai Courtney is literally
[00:49:26] Looks like he's like Three feet taller than her Yeah She's just a small person I did when they were like Going through the Alice Island thing Together in line I did have that thought Yeah Because this is one of my favorite Things about Alden Is that He's
[00:49:40] A little Jew boy Which makes me feel good That he's now playing Han Solo Like his listen height is 5'9 I don't buy that No comment But I have a question Please So We're sort of saying The character to bias Han Solo looks up to him Yes
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[00:52:09] While I type in the URL No you just Audio boom dot com slash Okay fine Start your maniac Let's talk about Okay so Rio's got a bunch of arms Val is Tandy Newton Who's having such a good resurgence right now She's so good in this movie
[00:52:24] And it's a bummer that she's not in more of it I kind of wish they had Subverted expectations And had Beckett be the one Who dies earlier The only thing I have to say about that Is Woody is really good in this He's very good
[00:52:37] I like what he's doing But yeah I think I might Have more fun with her I also think there's a point for about 40 minutes Where the character has kind of nothing to do They'll keep on cutting back to him Doing stuff But it sort of feels he
[00:52:48] Has no narrative function again Until the end He doesn't really He gets lost for a while Well yeah because his purpose in this movie Apart from initially Inspiring him Inducting him He's basically say to Hansel Like you think you have things figured out But you shouldn't think that
[00:53:03] And you shouldn't trust anyone You should be like me Just kind of like You know fuck the world I walk out for myself Right Then there's like an hour where he's like A quiet ally In the set pieces And then at the end he proves his thesis
[00:53:15] A quiet ally who will sort of Sidel in and be like But you know Kira is a little weird Don't you know keep your eye on her Yeah but he doesn't You're right He doesn't do a lot But yes initially him Tandy and John Favreau John Favreau
[00:53:29] Is what's he's what's Rio Chef Casper himself Chef Casper he's here What do you think of this character Won't stop talking about how good his Cubanos are Trying to get Oliver Platt To invest in his track I really love it visually He looks like a monkey
[00:53:44] He's got a bunch of arms He's an Ardinian I like Favreau The character felt a little off to me I couldn't figure out what it was He's not totally clicking in a way Where he's funny Like he feels funny adjacent That makes sense He's trying real hard Yeah
[00:54:01] He's all goof He's all like Ah it's gonna be great And I do kind of like how loose And not a jerky is Yeah Yeah there's something about him that's I was looking at it and I was like I don't find it annoying This is funny on paper
[00:54:13] I don't know why I'm not laughing But something isn't connecting So something I just really responded to Is that he's Then pointing at me He's like Not a jerk Right Not a jerk He's a nice guy The whole overall tone of this movie
[00:54:26] That I feel like what was lacking Is like this is a scumbag movie Is a scumbag movie I love scumbag I've responded to that I love scumbag movies Okay And to me it felt maybe it's just a Disney-fied thing But it's like They never really go there
[00:54:41] Like even the bad guy is bad You can tell like he's done some shit But if you're gonna make We could have done a scummy If you're gonna make this Gritty movie It's not scummy enough I think It even looks gritty But it isn't gritty But let's say
[00:54:53] Like it never feels as scummy and dangerous As the cantina in the first star war Which genuinely feels like uncomfortable Right And same with Javos Palace Feels genuinely uncomfortable You know and I think part of the fight Could break out The problem is Right
[00:55:07] You know and this happens at the end Of the movie But someone, Akira Is Akira who says to him Like you're kind of want to be A hero at heart Like and he's like what? No And they're trying to plant the seed
[00:55:17] For like well Han Solo does end up Being heroic But like Ah fuck off Like I don't care It also sucks to plant that Because the whole thing that's good About Han Solo's arc in the first movie Right When he shows up at the end Right
[00:55:29] Like it is I mean I know I've seen star war So many times it's not But like it is But Han Solo's arc in the original Star Wars is that he's trying so hard Not to care and he fails Somehow he gets involved He's like Rick in
[00:55:41] Custom Blank Right Or like Rick and Rick and Morty He's in it just for that sesh monstrel Why do you keep bringing The worst most toxic fan bases up Who have you got next What's like another one Don't worry I got a whole list Jesus Christ
[00:55:56] Oh my God that's like long It's touching the floor Um Han Solo you know he's an outlaw He's like those guys who kneel During the national anthem and then Cut that out Double it keep it in and double it I don't fucking know Alright um
[00:56:16] Ah Jesus anyway yeah Don't make him be a hero Right Just don't Right the point is like Keep that come later I don't know Make him an anti-hero They're trying to make him both Make him aware that he's in the movie Oh you think that's the move Yeah
[00:56:29] He should turn and be like I hope our opening weekend's higher Than like Pirates of the Caribbean At worlds end Can I re-announce Memorial Day opening weekends am I right Can I announce There's an opening weekend joke in Deadpool 2 Can I
[00:56:39] Wait hold on can we get a high five Yeah Can I announce a big Distribution of comedy points that happened last night Oh yeah please go ahead We saw the movie The Alamo Draft House That's true Our server came up to us I forget what his name was
[00:56:53] Before the movie started I don't think he gave us his name He might have like Like you've been here before Like yeah he was like okay cool Makes my job a lot easier You know how to order this and that So I want you to know
[00:57:01] Even though we cured the solo specials Which were Alcoholic beverages in solo cups I ordered three out of the four They were great I got really drunk watching this movie I was gonna say You kept ordering And I was like wow Griffin must be Fucking wasted over there
[00:57:12] And I have not been sleeping or eating much I'm doing great But He was like I also want to let you know That the Deadpool menu is still In effect And the chimichanga is Particularly fantastic And Ben very earnestly Very straight Beautiful delivery
[00:57:31] Turned to our server who he had met 15 seconds earlier In what could have come off as a dick move And said excuse me I have a question Does the chimichanga know that it's a chimichanga? This poor man Just trying to serve us food And to his credit
[00:57:49] Very straight faced I was like Basically Ben handed him a baton And he just grabbed it seamlessly And kept running And said it's a very self aware Chimichanga He was totally a good spore It was really funny But yeah I mean comedy points all around Oh yeah
[00:58:04] We pulled a string And comedy points fell from the ceiling On to the entire audience It was like a you know Ski ball Like tickets were Like 50 tickets just came out Anyway none of us ordered the chimichanga None of us ordered them They did sound pretty good
[00:58:19] They sounded pretty good I just wasn't in a chimichanga mood Not a fan of beans So Well I'm full of beans Clearly today What's gotten into you Ah yeah So I'm like so into this movie Right into the first half hour Right and then There's the bit where
[00:58:36] He goes to them realizes I love this that he picks up on it Sure That he knows a scoundrel So he knows what to look for Right because he says like You're the ranking officer captain And like Pandy Newton's like I guess you are Right because he's like
[00:58:49] Where he's captain In battle gets promoted to a higher rank Because someone else died And Han Solo looks at him And goes like They're bullet holes there So either you're invincible Right Or you stole that off a dead man Right And he's like What's your point kid
[00:59:02] You know they're like Should we snap his neck or shoot him And he's like I want in unlike you And the best pilot in the galaxy Let me in You think he's gonna win them over They report him Yeah they're like Uh huh Hey arrest this man Right
[00:59:14] Throw him in the pit with the beast Yeah There's a beast He gets in the pit Mud step, mud step This is totally for me Effective prequel stuff This is what you want This is what I want You're happy with this I'm happy with it too
[00:59:27] I like that you bought the thing You're happy with this Because it's not a dumb like Oh this is how they met I bet you didn't know I like it because it's playing off the tension of a prequel
[00:59:36] Which is how do they get from this point to the point that we know Right how they can be friends Right And it's pretty nice that like Han Solo frees him Yeah You know like that That adds some emotional resonance Which is I feel like
[00:59:50] And you know this is especially back when you were a kid And it was just the original movies But you'd read all those books Right And they'd always be like Oh Chewbacca owes Han a life debt Right You're like what the fuck does that mean
[00:59:59] But when you're a kid that sort of gets lodged in your brain Yes I guess that's this Yeah and they didn't make it too explicit They never have a scene where like Chewbacca goes like Oh And Han goes like A life debt Right what are you talking about
[01:00:12] Right I just like the look of Chewbacca in the mud He's really dirty They get out Well that's what I actually was going to say That's what I like It's a muddy It's a mud scene I mean I love that I mean come on Let's get
[01:00:24] Let's get dirty Let's get dirty But I like also that their dynamic isn't like They're just like Oh we're immediately friends No they're They're interstituting each other They're in it together because they're literally They have to Bonded together Right It's like the defiant ones for five minutes Right
[01:00:39] And then they And yeah anyway Han talks his way onto the ship I like that where he's like Don't leave without me And they're like Leave without you You're about to get arrested And then of course right as they're like Lifting off
[01:00:51] They see him there and they're like Fuck this kid Well I like that Rio is like Yeah he's The only real moment I like I guess it's just him being like Dude he got out of the Come on Pit that's pretty impressive Game recognized game
[01:01:02] Yeah I like this kid So then they get on the ship And now it's like Okay Shubaka and Han have been inducted into this group of scoundrels Here we go They gotta pull off a big heist Gotta travel around the galaxy with them
[01:01:12] So he can get back and find Kira And I'm like Di is cast I like this movie I like the story they're telling They're gonna be smoking cigarettes They're gonna be swearing Right They're gonna be bad Right Yeah And then what the train heist happens first right Um
[01:01:28] Yeah Then the next thing is the train heist I mean well there's that scene Where they're around the campfire Which is nice I think it's quite nice Yeah Like I like the It's obvious There's nothing This is I mean Movie like Guardians of the Galaxy Pulls District too
[01:01:41] But yeah that thing where He's trying to translate Shubaka's Yeah He's searching for his I don't know if he's a tribe or family But it's like What's the difference You know You're like oh I get it The movie's about like Han finding a family Yeah
[01:01:54] That can't be what the movie's about Because one Han doesn't have a family He's Han Solo Right Two he just hangs out with Shubaka Right And three like That's never been part of his characters Like he really wants to be part of a community No No
[01:02:09] Uh but whatever I mean okay Part of his character is struggling to exist in a community Yes Yes And usually even if you're in like A group of like thieves Like I mean the rule is And you have experience Being in that position Oh for sure 100%
[01:02:23] Yeah we used to do a lot of shoplifting Go on what was the point you were going to make Uh I feel like you're still out for yourself Sure Like that's what doesn't It's like Yeah It would be more interesting if they were all sort of like
[01:02:34] In fighting and just You know manipulating each other That's what thieves bad people do Now here's something You're not like You're kind of like You're my dad figure Right Like right away No I might stab you Yeah Now here's something I find interesting What about Broth though
[01:02:49] Uh the villain The villain is that the villain No Broth What do you think about Broth Like it's suit You need a bone broth Oh god I literally thought you were saying a character's name was Broth Well there is Bosc he gets mentioned Oh god
[01:03:04] I pump my fist Bosc I like That guy Bosc is cool I like I think Bosc is like pretty smart Can I throw something crazy out Okay Bosc is my favorite of the bounty hunter I think Bosc is cooler than Boba Fett
[01:03:16] Oh you take him over Boba Fett 100% I'd rather see Bosc a Star Wars story I like TC14 I like Bosc baby I mean not TC I mean I see the Bosc favorite I like IG-88 not TC14 The Bosc baby But he's the pirate dude right Bosc
[01:03:30] Now Bosc is the one who's just a lizard man And a yellow jumpsuit Cause then there's Who's the guy who just has Like a towel Dengar Dengar just has like a towel on his head He's got a diaper head Yeah he's got diaper
[01:03:40] And then IG-88's just a robot Yeah he's a rabbit And then you have A fourlam and Zuckus Oh yeah Zuckus is a bug Right and fourlam is like C-3P of a black with a bug head Yeah That's all of them right
[01:03:54] Yeah I want to look at Zuckus Yeah he's cool And then Mr. Boba Fett Yeah they're cool They're a cool bunch Yeah they're good group of guys You don't need their kind of scum Yeah I like IG-88 cause he looks like a gun Uh yeah me too
[01:04:05] What if they did like a entourage With the bounty hunters Great Sure Good I would be into that Uh so And Java is like their RE gold What was your I can't remember Anyway there feels like a What I was gonna say What were you gonna say
[01:04:23] What I was gonna say that I find interesting is All the other actors when doing press for this movie Have been like This is Ron Howard's movie And they're like What about the Lord Miller stuff And they're like That was kind of a very long expensive dress rehearsal
[01:04:34] Yeah Like there's very little of that footage Tapley's articles said 70% Chris Tapley in variety Yeah Was Howard essentially Right And honestly watching it I was like I feel like it's more I do too But also like maybe just a lot of the action is Was already kind of
[01:04:50] Put to bed Right You know originally they wanted Ron Howard To just sort of finish it out And do selected reshoots Yeah And see what he could re-edit That's true Initially but they did fire Lord and Miller Cause the thing is like Disney reshot Rogue One Right
[01:05:04] 50% of it I've heard Like you know a lot of it But it is credited to the original director And the original director was always on set For the reshoot But I heard that The deal with Rogue One was They said to Gareth Edwards
[01:05:15] We're gonna take this movie away from you You can agree to that And we'll let you go around And have the press tour And take credit for the movie Right And you can be on set While other people are overseeing it We'll listen to your input
[01:05:26] Yeah cause that's DJ rules would You'd have to fire him otherwise He has to be there And they threw that offer to Lord and Miller And they said We don't want to be credited With a movie that we're not making Sure So they walked I guess You know
[01:05:39] I mean they were told to walk Yeah they were fired Right But they had the option To be on and save face And they probably would have brought someone less Yeah Just than Ron Howard Right But yeah Ron Howard comes in He looks at the movie
[01:05:52] The interesting thing I was gonna say is Every other actor has gone This is Ron Howard's movie This is Ron Howard's movie He really saved us Tandy Newt in interviews has said I find it weird how much the thing's overhyped
[01:06:01] 90% of my footage was directed by Lord and Miller I mean she only has Three scenes essentially Cause she's got the The opening battle scene Then she has the campfire scene And then this heist where she dies That's it I just find that interesting So maybe they
[01:06:17] That apparently most of her stuff Was shot by them And this is the section of the movie That's really kind of driving for me That's all No that's fair I mean I mean I like Ron Howard I don't love him I mean He's made like
[01:06:31] Five movies I really like Yeah And he's made like Five movies I kinda hate And like ten other movies That are okay Right And then ten other movies That don't exist He's made a lot of movies I don't hate him I like him And you know
[01:06:44] Obviously he's like You know Jesus Christ I'm sorry I have two devices that are synced up You know He's Interested in development So you always enjoy You know you think of I for some reason as a kid Saw his episode of The Simpsons Like one thousand times
[01:06:59] Every episode of The Simpsons Five hundred times But I saw his even more And he's got a reputation as like Ah that's one of the nicest guys in Hollywood Yeah Well liked It's nice that he has the Lucas connection Yeah Yeah Right Their old friends
[01:07:12] Lucas offered him one of the prequels That was his original plan She's kind of interesting Right The original plan was Lucas would do Phantom Menace Howard would probably do Spielberg would do three Yeah And both of them were like You should make these Yeah And my guess is
[01:07:25] They probably saw Trouble Ahead Where they were like This is just Who wants that pressure Like that's kind of a thankless job And they probably both knew what George was like You know on like Return of the Jedi Where he's kind of the boss So yeah anyway Yeah
[01:07:37] But you know Ron Howard Has made some good movies He's made a couple of bad movies recently But Rush is phenomenal Yeah That's a terrific movie Agreed Inferno doesn't exist Yeah Really doesn't exist In the heart of the sea I saw that one I never saw that one
[01:07:51] It's rough Yeah It's ambitious like I think the script is the problem with that movie But I don't really like Frost Nixon Which was his last Why is this still happening? Yes Mute I thought I had Cinderella Man is like Okay Uh-huh You know it's kind of Well-made
[01:08:08] I don't like that movie other than Giamatti The missing is like Kind of good Uh-huh You know like a sort of a fun little genre movie A beautiful mind is Is watchable It's watchable I think the Grinch movie sucks Yeah I mean that movie is a nightmare
[01:08:23] I think Ed TV is terrific I am crazy I've always been a huge fan of that movie Is Ed TV his best movie the last 20 years? I guess so It's that rush Because Pearl Thirteen is right outside of that Right I mean that's his best film
[01:08:35] And then I like the early comedies I don't like Hakun But I like the Keat movies obviously Yeah I mean Gung Ho is like Not a good movie but like it's sort of Like it kind of moves Splash is good Night Shift Fox Night Shift is good Yeah
[01:08:51] What's the other one? The paper is like watchable Oh the paper rules I mean that said at like my mom's work Right I love that movie Willow is good Will- It's interesting I guess Yeah Parenthood I forgot he made Parenthood Oh Parenthood is very good
[01:09:04] Yeah that's a solid movie Yeah I forgot he made that Yeah He made so many movies He's and backdraft is pretty good He has made so many movies So many movies Ransom he made ransom Right which oh god The fucking Good score
[01:09:18] Yeah I jammed to the ransom score What a crazy career Yeah Anyway he did okay He's brought on and it was odd Cause it felt like oh he's here Just to finish up someone else's movie But then he really kind of Took over it He's clearly into it
[01:09:31] I remember he was on social media too And he was like publishing pictures every day He loved making a Star Wars movie That's obvious Cause they shut the movie down for like two weeks To bring him in and assess what needs to be done
[01:09:40] They also fired the editor And replaced the editor Oh interesting The actress Scalia was his hire Cause I know they have been like They considered firing young I think Or at least like they said Like do you want to keep Bradford Young
[01:09:48] Or do you want a new DP Right And he wanted to keep Bradford Young And he never used to be He said they connected right away They really like he really loved Bradford Young's like take on the movie Howard never used to be a very visually Interesting filmmaker
[01:09:59] He's done more shit recently He was a very good storyteller But he started doing those Anthony Dodd mantel movies And like Rush looks amazing Part of this he looks very good It does Yeah and for now I can't speak for I don't know what's like a weird jumbalaya
[01:10:11] And then like they pull off this train heist But Val sacrifices herself Right Yeah she blows up This sequence is kind of fun I like the train sequence I think it's not great No I like it I get really excited at the setup
[01:10:24] I'm like this seems fucking cool The troopers have magnet feet They're moving really fast Chewbacca's got goggles I'm like all the pieces on the board Get me really pumped And then I don't find it that viscerally thrilling But it's fun It's a little gray
[01:10:36] Because the palette is so white and gray Because it's snowy in mountains and stuff It's okay At a certain point you kind of realize like Oh this is just plot device Like this is just we're going to lose Val We're going to lose the score
[01:10:47] And it's going to be like What spurs the rest of the movie Yeah Chewbacca's trying to hold the train together It's fun It's kind of fun There are some fun beats And then Enfis Nest is who's this sort of villain In this sort of samurai uniform
[01:10:59] And Enfis Nest theme song It sounds like It's like It's like the score from the thin red line It's like Yeah right It's a bunch of like throat singers It's like a Polynesian choir Yeah I kind of dig the look of Enfis Nest But they're kind of like
[01:11:15] Oh no it's Enfis Nest And you're like It's who now Who? Right Is that a person? Is that a group? What they end up selling with Enfis Nest I'm buying But it's also like This feels like a lot to throw on us This late
[01:11:26] And it feels kind of disconnected From the rest of what this movie is doing You can't just say Oh they're marauders And then we're like Oh of course marauders Yeah that's a word I use all the time So whatever I'm buying Enfis Nest in the sense that
[01:11:37] I would like a screenplay that started with That as a starting point Yeah I get what you're saying Rather than this folded into a rail Yeah Okay but so after the heist goes wrong Rio gets dies too He gets shot Right And so you've just got Han Chewbacca
[01:11:55] And Beckett Yeah They go to the Crimson Dawn ship Right? Yes To meet with their boss So they don't have a score for Which to be clear Crimson Dawn Is not a horror movie It's a gothic romance Now again I am not great on Star Wars
[01:12:16] Expanded in your stuff This is a thing right? Like Crimson Dawn has already existed I can't speak to that I don't know if that's true Maybe not The name was so familiar I think because of Crimson That great movie Yeah Then who were like the mobsters
[01:12:32] In the old like Star Wars books and shit They exist but I think Because Crimson Dawn is set up to be this Fucking resurgence of Darth Maul thing And the people who have been following The sort of appendix material The comics and the cartoons
[01:12:47] If they knew Crimson Dawn That would tip them off right? That's why I think it has to be a new thing But I can't speak to this And someone's probably yelling online Yeah I'm trying to look it up This is one of the movie weirdly Maybe not
[01:13:00] Maybe it's new for this movie The balloon is untied And from here on out we're pinching it And the air starts coming out I really like Paul Bettany's performance Yeah I was gonna say I agree with you But I do like this scene I do too
[01:13:13] I like the set I keep doing like a triangle I like him But from the moment he sees Kira again I stop understanding what the movie's trying to do Agreed I stop knowing what story they're trying to tell It was basically now at this point in the movie
[01:13:25] You've got Crimson Dawn with Kira and Paul Bettany They need their stuff Right like a sort of under indentured servatoon Yeah you get the impression that her way off of Karelia Was like right she joined this Organized crime and fame How did you get out? I didn't
[01:13:41] And she's brand new Right now she's just stuck with Crimson Dawn Who are gangsters They're crime syndicate There's like five syndicates And they're one of them I don't know Their logo is like a circle with a line And which because crime syndicate should always have logos
[01:13:55] I love that when a crime syndicate has a logo David it's all about branding Imagine like the mafia pulling up and like you know There's like a big rose on the side of their truck And they're like the mafia everyone knows them Here they are
[01:14:06] Yeah broken lizard, a comedy mafia They have their logo And then you've got Lando I don't know Got Lando Right It takes a while for Lando to come in though This movie also feels very long to me So long It's way too long
[01:14:21] I think it's two hours twenty minutes Geez No, two hours fifteen Okay it's 135 minutes I'd say it feels 230 It feels long And it feels like a movie that should be 145 It's a classic movie where when it's over Like when the Castle Run essentially is over
[01:14:35] When the second and last set piece is over You're like oh the movie's over And then the movie's like Twenty more minutes Yeah it's weird because then they start talking about camp But I like joined I saw my girlfriend and she like at that moment
[01:14:50] Like just like put her head on my shoulder With like just exhaustion with the movie It just kind of wears you down Yeah So they meet with Paul Bettany as Dryden Voss He's given a really interesting performance Fucking great We turned to each other and both said
[01:15:05] Such a good actor Yeah Like in unison we just went like good acting He's playing it so restrained and friendly And threatening without I feel like doing any of the cliches you could do He's playing off beat in a way that's really interesting
[01:15:18] It's nuts to think that this was originally Michael K. Williams in a mo-cat performance Is like a lion man That was gonna be that character And then because he's attached to And just started crying spontaneously Because Michael K. Williams is attached to the Sundance show
[01:15:34] Happened Leonard, he couldn't do reshoots Like it's nuts Everything's crazy And then Paul Bettany said he takes away movies from me It's nuts Like did you hear the Paul Bettany story? We said he just texted Ron Howe Cause they worked together on the Da Vinci code
[01:15:47] So they know each other And beautiful mind which he's great at And beautiful mind which he's terrific in He's maybe the best performance in beautiful mind I would argue He's very good in it I've never seen that with my mom and going like
[01:15:57] Who the fuck is this guy? I was already all in on Paul Bettany Because he was in gangster number one Which is this phenomenal That was sort of his launch movie Right Yeah, that's 2000s But that wasn't there Yeah, it was a year before
[01:16:09] But he kind of got this vibe in gangster's number one Where he's like kind of scary Cause he's playing a young Malcolm McDowell in that movie But there is something very sensitive about him You know, even when he's playing Heavies I love
[01:16:19] And then Vision's my favorite character in the MCU Hands down No question No competition I always love him I'm happy that he's in big movies again now Cause I think he's a guy He's talked about how he was really at the end Of his career He was out
[01:16:31] Like cause I remember when he got cast as Vision Like he told some story about like His agent called him, dropped him Said you're never gonna work in this town again Almost Literally Like he had just washed out on some audition I think
[01:16:42] Yeah, and his agent was like This is just not working anymore And Joss Whedon was like Hey, you're gonna play the Vision Cause you're the guy in the movie So let's have you play Vision Right Like saved his career practically
[01:16:52] He also like he turned down a bunch of shit To make like that Darwin movie The Darwin movie And also he did He directed the movie with Jennifer Connelly and Anthony Mackie Right He did a couple He's got this nice relationship with Jennifer Connelly That seems very happy
[01:17:08] One of the sexiest couples alive Those are two of the most attractive people They're very attractive people And wait, I was gonna say something else Oh anyway, no he texted Ron Howard And was like, ha ha, LOL could I be in Star Wars
[01:17:20] And Ron Howard was like, hmm, give me a minute And then it's like actually Do you want to be above the title? You want to be getting a NAND? Yeah You want a NAND here? He's got a Ben vibe I mean, yeah Got the coloring, you know
[01:17:33] He dresses great He's a redded fashion Who is the guy we were saying could play A good older Ben Oh fuck, who was it? Oh, Eric Stoltz Yeah, Eric Stoltz, right, yeah, totally Cause we were saying that Katelyn Laundrybag Is obviously, Hosley, a Ben Wars story The prequel
[01:17:51] Right But Eric Stoltz is the like Ben settling in Like learning how to love Or it could be like a Ben sitcom Where he's like the frustrated dad Dad? Yeah, exactly With the upside down exclamation point Sure That's our new Rob joke for you Rob heads out there
[01:18:10] Was that on Netflix? Rob, no, you're thinking of real Rob Rob was on CBS That was Rob with the two exclamation points Upside down Okay, so Dragon Boss is like Sorry guys, you fucked up and gonna have to kill you I just like that thing at the end
[01:18:25] Where he's like, if you don't pull this off We're out of options You know, really friendly But where he's basically saying you will die But also the chemistry is very weird Between Clark and Aaron Rick from this point on
[01:18:38] Because I think they're pretty good at beginning the movie together They have that young kids They kiss good They do good kiss Well, their mouths are at similar heights But they also From this moment on They're trying to stop this thing of like Oh, she's kind of changed
[01:18:51] She can't really trust her anymore She's very cool and collected now She's all dressed up, you know I'm not feeling like The tension of she's totally gone Or he's trying to find her in there It just feels kind of off Also the problem is Like She's like
[01:19:10] I'm different now And he's like, no, you're not the same And she's like No, I'm not And the audience is like No, she's not Right, we don't buy it She doesn't feel transformed She just feels less engaged And then they go see the gangster
[01:19:23] And the gangster's basically like Cupping her face the whole time And he's like Kira, I love you And Han's like Kira's so into me right now Like, come on dude The whole thing is very... I hate the room And then it's just like I don't really care about
[01:19:38] This mission they're on Because I don't see... The mission is just to get some hyperfuel And his best friend He should be more depressed than he is Yeah, but he's an asshole I actually don't mind that Right, Han now has gotten back together With Kira, at least physically
[01:19:55] He's in the same space as her So what's he in it for? You know, I understand it's like Well, they're scoundrels They pull off a mission Because they... That's what they do But it's also there's kind of No emotional drive left in the movie At this point
[01:20:08] Now it's just a... Gotta figure it out So right, let's get a ship We need a fast ship Kira knows a guy, it's Lando Okay, now we're gonna get 20 minutes of Lando This scene rules This poker scene is great It's what you want Also, well shot Looks good
[01:20:21] Yeah Love how it looks Yeah, and now it's like Okay, here's the one character Who's behaving the way We want all the characters To act in this movie Yes, that's true He's got the vibe right Yeah The Sabak game is cool Yeah Bunch of beasts Cool weird aliens
[01:20:39] I love that he catches The device that Lando has up the sleeve But they save that for the end pay off That's like pretty good Right, because everyone knows Like he won the... He won the Malayan Falcon in a card game So we're like Is this it?
[01:20:51] He's just gonna win it right now Right, when... When Han doesn't blow up his spot I was like That's a weird like Just kind of like Nothing end Which I was just chalking up That the movie was reshot There were probably a bunch of dangling threads
[01:21:03] Pretty good check-offs gun To like bring it in at the very end Yeah, I think that's fine That's like solid But yeah But I also like Lando's whole vibe is like I run this place I'm great And then they're like We need you need your shipper job
[01:21:14] And he's like Alright, I guess so And then you like find out That the ship's been like impounded Because he like parked next to a hydrant Or whatever And he's like What do you mean? It's just normal Oh, this is crazy He's too cool to care
[01:21:26] But also not caring Means that you get in trouble The whole time Right, the whole time Oh, Lando is like living on the edge Like he is fucking broke Like he's basically like Gambling to stay alive Ships impounded Ding dong Ding dong ding dong Alright, keep the door
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[01:24:42] So where are we at? Lando You know, Lando's cool Cool capes Got capes I like the cap Cape jokes are funny Again, his character hits Like a lot of really just like funny moments Yeah That aren't like stupid Like whereas Han Every joke of his is so throwaway
[01:25:00] And cheeky and just shitty It's always going to be a tough balance With these prequels of how many winks you do And some of them where it's like What's your name? Chewbacca I'm gonna need a nickname Where I'm like I never really thought about Chewie
[01:25:14] As like a nickname Han invented Right Wait, should we call you Bacca? Right, it's like some of these things like Okay Can we tell him the joke I made to you? Yeah, please So he goes We're gonna need a nickname And I turned to you and said
[01:25:29] Greg Silverberg It was a weird one I had to think about it You laughed I laughed, it was funny Listeners, he laughed Here's another thing that hit me watching this movie I kind of think The Finn arc is weirdly the better Han Solo movie
[01:25:51] The thing I like a lot in The Force Awakens Is that scene where Han Solo totally sees through Finn And it's like kid, I know a liar What does he call him again? A big deal, Mr. Big Deal Yeah, women they can see through it
[01:26:04] You've forgotten one thing Women always know the truth Right And that scene I love Because you're like Oh, this must be what Han Solo was like When he was young Han recognizes it because he was this fake Until you make a guy
[01:26:18] And he was in the empire and washed out Right Yeah, yeah, yeah But Finn is actually very funny I mean, he's got a lot of energy Because he's able to make his own character John Begg is a very compelling actor Begg is very good Yeah In that movie
[01:26:31] And you know, I'm thinking about this movie And then I'm thinking about The Force Awakens And I'm thinking about like How much better The Force Awakens Than this movie Like, cause I can, you're remembering a scene Right And I'm like I have that scene in my head
[01:26:44] Like, I know that scene really well When we sat down to watch solo I had just seen it like 10 days earlier And I was like I don't remember one fucking thing It's already kind of leaking from my brain I love looking at it
[01:26:54] Yeah, I like looking at it I was never in Star Wars Like, I'm always going to be into Star Wars Right It's a nice sandbox Like, it's a nice aesthetic sandbox But then you just go like The universe feels small
[01:27:06] When they keep on trying to tie everything back Into these central points that we already know And even Rogue One Which I like more theoretically By being like New cast of characters Is tying so much into one event that we know Yeah I'm just like
[01:27:19] Give me a Star Wars movie That's like two young dreamers On the outskirts Trying to make it out And get a better life for themselves You know, Italy And maybe that's what like Ryan Johnson's movie can be You know, this is the thing
[01:27:28] Stop doing these prequels and shit And just, yeah If you want to give us a Quote-unquote Star Wars story Give us a Star Wars story And just pick real Like human experiences And place them into this universe That's the... Aren't they starting a streaming service? Yeah, they are
[01:27:42] And John Favreau is going to do A Star Wars live action TV show Now this is a movie that I would be fine to watch at home It feels like a season of a TV show I just saw Mike Ryan And he was saying
[01:27:51] That Solo should probably be a TV show It feels like watching six consecutive episodes And not getting to the season finale And I would have actually liked it better Because I would have been able To watch it at home But then I feel like What they're gonna do
[01:28:01] Is they're going to make a TV show Out of what you're pitching Which is just Unconnected characters And just a unique sort of Scenario based in this universe What he said the show is going to be Is set after returning to the Jedi
[01:28:15] When the Rebels have seen it Yeah, it's gonna be set in that sort of Middle patch between the old movies And the new movies It's gonna be like next generation kids Growing up in the freedom Yeah, cool Sounds cool, whatever Give me totally fucking new characters
[01:28:28] I don't really care Exactly And even I think Star Wars Rebels Does a really good job of that That's the reason I prefer Rebels To Clone Wars Which I've only watched pieces of Yeah The CGI Clone Wars But Rebels is just like Here are five new characters
[01:28:40] And sometimes they'll tie into things You know Sometimes Lando will appear Sometimes you go Oh, that's how this happened But by and large it's like Here are five people With a struggle you get And you're gonna love Watching them try to exist in this world
[01:28:53] There's so many pockets in this universe That's the stuff I like in this movie Yeah, that's what I always like What about like a courtroom Kind of movie, you know God imagine Night Court Set in a Star Wars universe That would be so good
[01:29:05] Did not expect Ben to say that Yeah, like Matlock In the Star Wars universe Yeah I will say aesthetically Aside from the Bradford Young Of it all I like that this movie I think hits the best balance Of the new Disney Star Wars movies And getting
[01:29:21] What I love about Star Wars Is like the thing I love about Like fucking New York Which is like the contrast Right side by side Oh sure, right Yeah, right These things that are super shiny And super grimy Like a very high class And very scuzzy
[01:29:35] And pooping outside the Chrysler building Or whatever I love that mishmash of all You know, the socioeconomic levels And because of that The different levels of technology It's something that George Lucas Kind of forgot in the prequels Which just become the Parisians like dancing You know
[01:29:54] Before the society crumbles Oh sure, right Then that was his take Right the courtesans And what have you Yeah But I mean You know, and I like the way You know, like one thing I love about The Last Jedi Which is again
[01:30:06] A much better movie in this movie Yeah Is stuff like that Where he shows you the nice The casino plan Yeah And then he's like Yeah, underneath Yeah, and then Benizio Loutoro Shows up with his boots around his neck Right, which look That works better Old boots neck
[01:30:22] Narratively and metaphorically On just a pure visceral Like whizbang level I like seeing the things Side by side visually In this movie Whizbang And you brought up his character Belicio's Belicio Yes, Benizio Yeah My dad calls him Benidicio Fuck me What's the matter, Ben?
[01:30:40] Which could anywhere in the neck He was a good like shitty Yeah, he's a good scumbum He's got a Jughead hat And he's He lives up to it And you believe it The Lando thing of You don't know whether or not You can trust this guy Right Yeah
[01:30:55] I don't know how If Beckett never really feels dangerous to me Not really Other than when he Rats him out On the battlefield No, Beckett doesn't really feel dangerous He feels a little grimy Right But he doesn't really feel No one in this movie feels that dangerous
[01:31:10] Except for Betany Who I do I do think conveys threat Quite well And I think Lando works Because you actually can't read him You don't know where he's landed Lando is just a fucking blast Yeah, I mean Right, let's talk about the other thing
[01:31:22] That I think totally works in this movie It's a bridge arc I think they shortchanger by Like really rushing through it But L3 is fucking cool She's great Played by Phoebe Waller-Bridge With Fleetbag It's just the fucking best She's writing this show Killing Eve Right now that
[01:31:37] Like I'm not watching much TV And it's great Like I'm watching this show It's like the only TV show In the last like 10 years That has grown literally every single episode Yeah, that's true Which is very hard to do It's like a runaway success It's great
[01:31:50] And she's great Yes, L3 3.7 is If you ever watch Fleetbag Watch it in six episodes It's one of the best comedy shows Of the decade And she's a droid Yeah She's kind of clunky looking I love her look I love that she looks like R2D2
[01:32:05] And C3PO combined Do you know what I'm saying? Like her limbs are very flat And sort of like Wooden planky R2D2 But she's got like a posture She sort of walks with like some attitude It's a really good physical performance
[01:32:17] And she did it all on set Yeah, she was on set She wore the suit And then they CGI'd out Her green body stocking So she looks skinnier And more family I heard when she auditioned She did not know what a droid was Or what she really liked
[01:32:28] Yeah, she had seen Star Wars movie She's really funny She's cranky Yep She's 100% confident that Lando's in love with her But she's like I'm not interested It's embarrassing Yeah She's a droid rights activist Which is an interesting concept For Star Wars to bring up at this point
[01:32:48] Because that's always been a question A lot of people have Where they're like These droids seem like people Like they're not just like Autobots They have personalities So what the fuck? Do people own them? What's the relationship here? Like all of that Like all of that too
[01:33:03] I think she's really funny I like all her scenes She does die fast But yes, the idea I think the cast in has here is like They're always talking about The Millennium Falcon Is a ship with so much personality And it turns out she is that
[01:33:16] Now where do you land on this? I don't mind I actually think it fucks up the movie It makes the movie really collapse under scrutiny I think so too Because she is set up as Lando's friend Lando's like companion And then she dies and is eloded
[01:33:37] Into the Millennium Falcon Cause she's got the best map in the galaxy She's got this sort of brain So you sort of jack her brain into the ship I don't mind that That's a cool idea in my opinion In order to save the day
[01:33:48] But that's an odd thing to do When the arc necessarily has to conclude With Han winning the Millennium Falcon Lando loses the ship, which sucks And it'd be one thing if the arc in the movie Was that she really takes a shine to Han
[01:33:59] Which they have a connection They don't have any connection at all in the movie So it's weird It also feels a little Twilight zoning to me I know people on Twitter today were saying It feels a little black mirror Where it's almost a nightmare
[01:34:11] That now her brain is just caught in here forever You think about how long we know The Star Wars universe lasts for And it's like Decades later And it feels like it's just a little bit Of a real, just her brain She can't speak
[01:34:24] You know, being passed around I don't mind that Uncle our plot just owned her for a while You know No, I don't mind that because like He gave her one quarter portion I think it's There's a mention of portions in this movie
[01:34:34] I think it's cool to have that weird Sort of concept of like Yeah, is this like immortality Or is she not a personality anymore Like that's I don't care if that I find it a little depressing Just because she is separated from Lando Well, that's what I
[01:34:47] That's I just think it's like They had two ideas They have this idea Let's explain why the Millennium Falcon Is such a quirky ship Right And let's explain how Han won the Millennium Falcon But then they forgot to knit them together Right
[01:34:58] How is it a quirky ship though? They're always like Oh, this old girl You know, they always sort of like In the original Why is it not? She still just say that about vessels But they're always saying that I never felt like she had a personality
[01:35:08] It just feels like They were personing her If that makes sense A little bit But the whole thing with the Millennium Falcon Is always like What's so special about that hunk of junk Right And one thing would always be The other thing would be
[01:35:19] Oh, she made the Kessel Run And you know, like Where they're like Ah, she's special You know Honestly, that's like Some nerd shit I could not do less There's a good Like a fucking Doctor Who episode I think it's the one The Neil Gaiman wrote
[01:35:32] That's what occurred with the Doctor's Wife Yes, it occurred to me Where it's the opposite Where Doctor Who's TARDIS The TARDIS The ship Starts suddenly having a physical form And it's now suddenly This relationship he's already had Always had within an animate object Has like a personality
[01:35:45] That it's like pretty cleverly done Or there's the Doing the inverse feels a little weird to me Especially when it's not based around The relationship that actually matters There's also that like Joss Whedon X-Men arc Where the danger room becomes like a person Such a good arc Danger
[01:36:01] Yes, and like That's interesting too But that's more of the nightmare version Right So like this is actually like a thing You can't just like Have it serve a purpose for you anymore It gets like a consciousness But I think to this point It works in one direction
[01:36:13] Far better than it works in the other direction I think so It works better to go Hey, here's this thing that you feel attached to Now we're gonna make it a person Rather than saying Here's a person We're gonna tell you secretly Her brain has been inside
[01:36:25] I don't mind either idea I'm saying a character Fuck me It's the prequel problem again But she is cool And I do like the scene Where she takes off the restraining bolt During the sabacc I did the castle run Yeah, these fucking things are so barbaric
[01:36:41] Yeah, they're restraining bolts Sobo And it's not like she's like an activist Where she's actually like Yes, no, no She's just sort of like I don't know Go free your brothers And the bots like Okay, it like rumbles off And I like that
[01:36:55] The little montage of them all going Like freedom I love robots They're so silly And then she's like Oh, this is great You know, she's I like it somewhat inadvertent I guess is my job Yeah, I agree with that Anyway, so they get landed
[01:37:12] Or they do the castle run What do you think of the castle run? This is like the Ocean's Eleven sequence It's not, but you know But at this point It's not like I feel any tension over this Heist I don't feel like a clear sense of like
[01:37:22] What the threats are It's like, okay, I guess it's dangerous Like I have to pull it off But it just feels like stuff Even though I mean I couldn't describe anything that happens to you In the next 30 minutes of the movie I do images I still remember
[01:37:34] But that raw thing is so stupid Because it's like We have to get the thing To then do another thing That's like the Ocean's Eleven thing Where it's like Well, we need the hyper-fuel But here's a problem Hyper-fuel just destabilizes
[01:37:45] If you don't keep it cool for half an hour Those movies are based around problem solving This movie is just based around conflicts You know they're going to do it Yeah, right That's a problem with any Heist movie But still Even the smoke thing Yeah, the castle
[01:38:01] Like the tunnels of The design of it I was just like I don't know I didn't hate it I didn't love it I don't mind the smoke image Like the smoke tunnel Like the smoke king up You'll find out Yeah, it's going to be some bullshit
[01:38:15] What do you think of the smoke tunnels? Cool I mean this all looks cool I don't mind the smoke tunnels But once he punches through The smoke tunnel is in the mail stream thing Where it's all That just kind of looks like nothing
[01:38:25] That just kind of looks like CGI too It's just like cloudy Asteroid feel Asteroids, yeah And like there's another squid monster And you're like Another fucking squid monster And it's big It's big But even Ben's not Can't get it up for this thing I can't Yeah
[01:38:40] Oh, there's an eye Like we've done that before And it just feels like The Chewbacca stuff also feels a little crowbarred in Where he's like Oh look here are my people Like, okay It's fine It does feel by the numbers And they're trying to sell it as
[01:38:53] Like look at this ragtag Like family that's formed together But it's like Okay like Beckett losing everyone He kind of was close with And L3 dies Han and Kira But they don't really seem to get along That well anymore L3's dead Lando doesn't ever stand
[01:39:07] Once L3's dead Lando's kind of like just exhausted Like not into it anymore He's kind of fun earlier But then he's just like sad Yeah And then they do it They land on some other sandy planet You know, like a ruined sort of planet
[01:39:24] And this is when What's that? Emphers Nest Shows up Takes off her helmet And it's like a girl With red hair And the movie's kind of holding on her And you're like Am I just supposed to have my mind blown That it's like a young woman?
[01:39:43] Is that it? Because like when it happened I had gone to the bathroom The first time I saw it Like I took like a two minute bathroom break Okay And so I was like When the big reveal happened I was like wait
[01:39:52] Am I supposed to know who that is Yeah Because the movie's really like And you're like Is this supposed to be a younger version Of the character I know It was like racking my brain Where I'm like who is the fucking, you know
[01:40:01] And then this movie throws in All this shit when it's like And for fun Shouldn't we be wrapping up now? I think now So you were saying You know I think this is a This should not be in the movie I agree
[01:40:11] I like this as a starting point For its own story But at this point in this movie It's too fucking much This is a disaster Because she's like Let me tell you the story of this planet That was like ruined by the Crimson Dawn
[01:40:22] When they came and they took stuff And then they cut their tongues out They're terrorists We're the last We're the good guys We need the fuel to fight back And we're gonna do it And the whole thing is just existing To give Han this like hero moment
[01:40:35] Where he can like do the right thing I don't need that I don't need that at all I don't need that And they set up what looks like It's gonna be a cool fucking western shootout And then it just becomes like It's about ethics and game journalism
[01:40:50] But no but it just becomes like You know this like ethical like Dilemma that they present to him Right like are you gonna give the Fuel to the bad mobsters? Or are you gonna give it to us? Nice people Cool nice people He makes his decision, Beckett leaves
[01:41:07] Right well then it's the Again the ocean's the 11th thing where it's like Let me tell you my plan We don't know what the plan is And then we watch the plan unfold But Beckett leaves You're like okay kind of a weird arc They go up
[01:41:21] See Paul Betney And he's like unfortunately someone tipped me off He's like Kira and he's like no I know she's playing seven sides I just really want, Betney is killing it in this I really like, I like the thing where he's like Beckett's dead oh so sad
[01:41:35] You know and then he's like looking at the Hyperfuel and he's like wow Really is amazing how did you fake this And I was like I didn't fake it and he's like I'm genuinely I'm showing respect I think it's good job I think you're doing a good performance
[01:41:47] Right now? Right and then that thing where Kira He's like it's Kira and he's like No no Kira's got her own Nick it will handle that later So good in this scene But then oh Beckett double reverse He was ratting them out
[01:42:00] And it's like this move would maybe work If Beckett had left them 40 minutes earlier But when he just like Right he's just left 90 seconds earlier it was like happy trails partner It's like okay And there's also that whole midsection where Beckett
[01:42:14] Isn't really doing anything other than being with the girls I guess the implication is the whole time he Or is it more like Hans says I'm gonna pull this shit and Beckett's like You know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna call Paul Betney
[01:42:24] Right now and let him know that Hans About to pull this shit But like kind of who cares Right As long as he been in the Like they're all working for him anyway Yeah Cause like you said the revelation can't be like
[01:42:35] I've been working with them all along It's like well yeah we all have They hired us And it's trying to prove this don't trust anybody point But it feels like that would be more effective Which is fine Done with Kira and also
[01:42:45] It'd be more effective like you say If Beckett had actually vanished from the movie Right and also like here are three things That are more effective Beckett actually vanishing Kira being the one who betrays him Or Betney just sees through it
[01:42:58] And does everything that Betney does in the scene But he knows that it's a fake Because he's a fucking awesome fucking crime boss Right You know it's like a flex Yeah Yeah I don't know so then it's like Then there's three more double cross to Rehan
[01:43:12] So actually I knew you would betray me Right I do like that play I was waiting for someone to zip down Kira feels like that It feels like they're gonna pull off a mask Or deal with all the man-waters Right No, I like the thing where he's like
[01:43:29] No actually I played you and your guys are dead now And Beckett, the movie is just Han being like I know that Beckett is so flimsy morally That he'll just switch back to me Yes That's fine That's cool But it's like And then there's a little showdown with
[01:43:45] Dryden where Kira kills him Yeah I mean and the movie kind of At this point amounts to nothing And kind of leaves you with nothing At this point the movie's just trying to fill in Those little Han so you see him shoot first When he shoots Beckett Okay
[01:43:58] You see him be a little bit of a hero He gives the thing but they're like You should join our We're thinking of calling it like a rebellion And he's like I don't think so I don't join rebellions And they're like Well maybe later and he's like Maybe
[01:44:12] And they say I love you and he says I know It's like who cares And also there he's like I got this great line on a deal With Jabba the Hutt practically Right? That's sort of the idea I thank them for actually not saying Jabba the Hutt
[01:44:28] Because I kept on I was linked to you But they do kind of be the thing where they're like I got it's a real big gangster On a real sandy planet Yeah he likes to eat at pizza hut Something I wanted to say about Kira
[01:44:43] The end and the reveal of her Kira takes over the crime scene Taking over on It's You know It's being portrayed as like This bad thing Sure And to me I guess You're kind of like get it girl Yeah whatever you do I'm like
[01:44:57] Everyone's got to do what it takes to survive in this universe And I'm tiptoeing in territory that I'm a little nervous about So I'm just saying that now You're tiptoeing into the IDW It feels to me like it's a male gaze Like overall in this movie Uh huh
[01:45:10] And that it's almost like It's that same thing of Jurassic World Sure Where it's like how could a woman Right Want to do this Where it's like no Aren't you stunned She's the new leader of the Crimson Yeah No she was an orphan He loved her
[01:45:25] She had to figure out her own life Cause Hans deal is like Hey come with me I'm thinking of buying a ship Like you know She's like I'm on one And I'm going to take it And also the only other two female characters in the movie
[01:45:40] Die to give other male characters It's this is true Dry It is and it's a fucking solo movie So not surprising And I like the cast You know I think it's a nice cast But that's why I am interested to see what the Quote unquote true
[01:45:54] Star Wars fan responses to this movie Because it feels like This is what you guys were fucking asking for Yeah You know do you love this? Like not with no judgment But it's just like This feels like what you're complaining about
[01:46:07] I'm not sensing the immediate last Jedi blowback of fury No it also doesn't feel like they love it But my dumb right wing Star Wars merchandise blog I read because I like staring into the sun Was like finally this is the Disney movie
[01:46:22] That kind of gets it right Not doing cartwheels But he's like at least they're starting to learn their lesson They're like pulling out of a nosedive Well my favorite thing is that there's that section of You know right wing whatever You know stupid jerky red pill like fans
[01:46:38] JediTempleArchive.com Great Well but you know what I mean I feel like I don't They're not my mentions too much But sometimes we're there convinced That like Disney knows how bad last Jedi was And wants to get rid of Ryan Johnson And there's some like 17 layer scheme
[01:46:54] They're executing to push him out the door Like we all know it Right Last Jedi Bombed They have to do damage control Yes on a boohoo Force Awakens The number one highest grossing domestic film of all time Was followed by a massive domestic drop off of
[01:47:10] The seventh highest grossing film of all time Like if last Jedi was bombing it would have like A bomb would have been like rogue one or below numbers Correct Yeah great It made a lot of money Correct The thing that's weird about last Jedi
[01:47:23] Rogue One is also still in the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time True The thing that's weird about this Yeah And last Jedi is Yeah China is not interested And it is Yes You know Solo is also bombing in China And it is that thing of like
[01:47:37] They have no history with these characters They don't care about these movies in the same way The country doesn't care Because those movies weren't in the country then And right so it's like You're watching like What happens if you just release a Star Wars movie
[01:47:46] Without the nostalgia play Right And the reaction is sort of like But that's kind of why they need to make one of these movies That doesn't handshake anything else Yeah sure That's true On a basic narrative level It can handshake in those little moments or whatever
[01:47:58] No no you're right You know? A gritty courtroom drama You know I just want them to keep things moving In this universe I want them to transfer the story To new places You want to make the creative process Easier for everyone Just bring out a flop sweat
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[01:49:45] That was the year of my birth Humble breath Yeah Star Wars seems dead Sure They've done this six years No, no three years since Return of the Jet Right, I think both the cartoon shows Have been cancelled at this point Ewoks and droids
[01:50:00] Kenner still has the Star Wars license Which has been Beyond a financial windfall for them Right But now it's starting to peter out They're getting down to real Right, because they're out of new characters F-tier characters Right, there's no new media to support it
[01:50:14] There'd never been a merchandising line That ran this long off of films You know Yeah And George Lucas There was that vague notion of Oh maybe someday he's gonna make more Maybe he's gonna make the prequels But it seemed kinda dead Yeah Kenner pitched to George Lucas
[01:50:31] A new plot line This is gonna pay off That they wrote Okay They said Right, we've run out of characters So Unfathomable in this day and age that like In an era where brands and franchises Are managed so closely Yeah That the toy company would be like
[01:50:49] What if you just let us write new Star Wars Yeah We wouldn't be putting out new material We wouldn't have a cartoon show We wouldn't have comics We just write a new storyline And make toys off of that storyline Which is the adventures of
[01:50:59] Han and Leia and Luke So what's the new storyline? The storyline was like The epic continues Was the name of the line Benz quench fist The plot concerned the genetics master Atha Prime ruler of Dark World Who had been freed from exile Following the death of Emperor Palpatine
[01:51:17] Striking at the Rebel Alliance It's forced to do battle with Luke Skywalker Han Solo and the Mongo beef head tribesman Meanwhile, Gramov Tarkin Who had evaded death of Balava And had returned to take control Of the Galactic Empire
[01:51:29] They didn't have a lot of money to put this together So they literally took pieces from other Star Wars toys And like the hammerhead alien I'm looking at the Mongo beef head right now This is what I'm talking about The Mongo beef head They took the hammerhead alien
[01:51:41] And they literally turned his head upside down And were like Put it on a different body And were like This is a new character And they painted like Luke and Han Different characters But the big notion from this was They had been making all the ships
[01:51:54] From the movie, right And they were really expensive And parents had bought all them And they were like We're not going to buy anymore the big ticket items I think the last couple of ones They did didn't sell as well So they said
[01:52:02] Rather than selling all new ships We're going to sell attachments onto ships So their big idea was An escape pod For the Millennium Falcon That fit in between the prongs At the front of the ship It has a little forky prong It's got that little forky prong
[01:52:16] And it made the Millennium Falcon Come to a point And that was supposed to be Oh, these are cheaper Like $5 little add-on vehicles You snap this on to something else And no one has acknowledged this But I have to believe
[01:52:28] That this movie is doing that as a conscious nod To some of the nerdiest deep ship Star Wars That's right That's like level six deep But the younger Kazdin Is a hardcore Star Wars nod He apparently pushed really hard for The inclusion of Darth Maul
[01:52:43] Who we have not yet talked about Right, he worked into the background Some characters from like the Dark Horse comics And allusions to things like that Like he's really into all the ephemera There is also Dave Gonzalez and I were talking about this Aura Singh is mentioned
[01:52:55] We talked about Aura Singh Yes, yeah Where Beckett is said to have killed her Which apparently has set off some Some fury in the deep Star Wars nerd world Where they're like that character's too important To just kill her offscreen Because people love Aura Singh Who for reminders
[01:53:10] She's the white person with the White, like literally white skin With the orange pony tail And like a needle through her head And she appears in one shot of the pod race Yes, she's in the pod race for a second It doesn't do anything But people love her
[01:53:23] Like takes a pot shot at someone Yeah But there's a whole expanded world Right But I just found that very interesting Because while not making it canonical They're trying to tie in like now Even rejected Star Wars plot lines Totally At least with the tip of the hat
[01:53:40] That's a little interesting I found that interesting, yeah totally I love weird shit like that Yeah, thank you, weird shit I'm looking at the remodeled Millennium Falcon I don't like it as much Like I'm glad they cut the escape pod quickly Right Yeah But it's cool
[01:53:59] Yeah, it's fine Good shit It's a little like the Rubbit in Lost in Space Where he's really shiny And then once they like crack it open And then it looks like the classic thing You know, you know Totally You know, you know, how do you know?
[01:54:12] Made her wow I tried watching I tried watching the Netflix one But I couldn't get into it Yeah Lost in Space Couldn't get into it You sound like American moviegoers In the beginning of September 2017 Because it was sold out across the nation
[01:54:29] And covering is pretty sort of the same Couldn't get into it I've developed a headache over the recording People who don't have Fandango Couldn't get into it Honestly man, this is not like last Jedi Where we were like two hours and 40 minutes in And then like suddenly realize
[01:54:42] Like shit, we didn't talk about this Like We're done We're basically done I think we should talk for a few more minutes But you know I'd summit camp and then get out No, I mean I don't know How are you doing? I'm doing alright, I'm tired
[01:54:52] Talk about Darth Maul Yeah, Darth Maul's in the movie I think that's I mean I appreciate the cast and likes these But that's a baffling decision Like I feel like he wants to bring Darth Maul Because Darth Maul got brought back In the cartoons years ago
[01:55:05] Right, they pulled that trick His clone Wars arc is good He's got like robo legs Sure And in Rebels I believe Rebels Close the Darth Maul thing Where Obi-Wan kills him Like as an old man And so like This takes place in between The problem
[01:55:20] An arc that they've already finished That's what I'm saying The problem with bringing him into the movies Is people will literally not know When this movie is taking place Which I confess I do not know Yeah And they'll just be like Wasn't he dead?
[01:55:32] Like I just think a lot of audience members Are going to be baffled I also just think This is the thing I feel frustrated by Is I think what's interesting about Star Wars Isn't what's interesting about The MCU for better or worse Which is the puzzle piecing
[01:55:46] Of all these things together I think what's interesting about Star Wars Is that universe as a place For a type of story Or types of stories I'm not really interested in Filling in gaps in between things So according to Wolkeepedia This takes place 10 BBY So essentially 10 years before
[01:56:06] The original Star Wars movie So there you go Okay I guess that makes sense Because I think Han here Is supposed to be about 22 Like he's in his very early 20s Right, he's about 10 years younger Foot shorter He had a late grasp Maybe Corellian's grow late Yeah, exactly
[01:56:23] Yeah I don't know It's like a gentleman's five for me I think I can give it a six I like the look enough Do you think you will ever watch it again? Sure I think if it goes about Netflix I will watch certain scenes of it again
[01:56:35] Or just keep it on when I'm trying to fall asleep Because I like the look of it It's one of those things where Like I saw Force Awakens I've seen Force Awakens like 20 times Maybe not 20 10 times Like I've watched that movie a lot Yeah, me too
[01:56:48] Rogue One I have watched once Since the two times I saw it in theaters Tried to watch it again So then like if I watched it again I watched like half of it on Netflix Yeah And I felt the same I had a good time but I was...
[01:56:59] Yeah Last year at I had Force Awakens I watched them frequently Sure I feel like you don't watch them enough You should watch them more I feel like I don't... I should watch them more I'm back Busy What are you so busy with? Making a TV show
[01:57:13] No one should do it It is weird to me though Like I feel like this strain of This whole like Oh, we're reconceptualizing the whole movie We're reshooting it How it has to fit into this larger tapestry We've gotten to a point where
[01:57:26] Like the pipeline for movies being made Because they're so franchise based Is so much closer to how TV used to be made Right Where it's so much about like trying stuff out And then course correcting Right And then undoing And then like shaking it up
[01:57:38] And all of that While like on the opposite side Now the expectation is that TV has to be Like very cinematic and very tight Sure And very like all mapped out Like, you know I don't know I'm not saying this is I don't think I'm saying anything
[01:57:54] I shouldn't be saying right now But it's like There is that weird thing where it's like We're making the tick right now, right? We're like halfway through the season This next season, you know When it comes out Is going to be released in one chunk
[01:58:07] As opposed to the split season That we did last time So it'll be like ten episodes All at once And now there's an expectation Where like people watch things often Like I'm going to sit down Try to watch this as like one narrative
[01:58:18] Both parts of the tick I watched in one go Right But it's like we're swishing directors up All the time Like different people are coming in With different notions of it And scripts are being rewritten constantly Right And I'm not like asking people to judge things
[01:58:32] On a curve But it is like I was talking to some other actors on set And I was like It is kind of stressful The way that People watch and process TV has changed Yes You know Because they now want everything to fit together Like so perfectly
[01:58:49] And TV is a little more improvisational As a process Because it's like It's a constantly moving train with multiple stops Not something where you start out Knowing everything you're going to do Sure And a lot It's very collaborative Yeah I don't know
[01:59:05] But that's like what this movie feels like to me You know That's how like the MCU I mean I think the reason why the Russo brothers Are working so well on the Marvel systems Because they're show runners But they're done now Yeah Um yeah
[01:59:15] Should we talk about Infinity War? I don't think it's very good I think it feels like TV It feels like a middle episode of a show That I gave up on watching Can I give you my hot take on Infinity War? Which I liked Please
[01:59:29] In my total astonishment I didn't hate it But I sat there and I Very very seldomly felt invested in any way I felt very invested Which is sort of part of my hot take I only felt invested when Vision died Which sucks Spoiler's Vision dies
[01:59:41] He's my best friend Well that's Actually the core part of my hot take Okay Um but basically Like what I like about the movie And to be clear I dislike Civil War I know you do Like that's probably my least favorite Of the Marvel movies
[01:59:56] Greatly preferred to this Apart from Iron Man 2 and Hulk Which like I greatly prefer to this I don't think it's a very good movie I don't even like Winter Soldier that much I think Winter Soldier is fine I think Winter Soldier is okay Cause the action is smaller
[02:00:07] And a little better Apart from the helicopter Helicarrier ship But no I like this movie Because I think it has a little more Of an idea that is actually blended Into the movie Where Civil War I think the idea is like Total bullshit Like because in Civil War
[02:00:22] You are allowed to side with everyone Right Which I think is the biggest Problem of Civil War In Civil War Everyone has a good reason For doing what they're doing And everyone's going to have A good reason to forgive themselves Right away
[02:00:33] They don't want to make you dislike anybody Exactly Like you can just side with everyone in it And there's just no tension to the Civil War Right And even the airport fight Which is fun They're never really mad at each other
[02:00:46] They're just kind of bashing each other for a while And in this movie To me The pitch of that Infinity Wars Thanos arrives And he's like Enough of this There's too many of you This is ridiculous Like I am here to Cut this shit out
[02:01:00] Cause it's too much This is bloated Like that's his like philosophical idea And the Avengers are responding with like No, we like it Like it's good We're friends This is a family And what I love about the movie Is the thing that I feel some people brought up
[02:01:17] Which is like everyone's like Why don't you just kill Vision I mean Yeah You lose vision But then Thanos doesn't win Right It's cause they like him too much Well and like the metaphor The entire stakes If we lose vision Then we lose
[02:01:29] The entire stakes of the last battle Is need to make sure Vision doesn't die And that's why I like the movie Because those are real stakes And Thanos is coming for it And they could just kill Vision And then Thanos loses
[02:01:41] And the whole we don't trade life for life stuff And that's why I'm into it At the end there Cause I feel it when Vision dies I feel bad I feel Vision's death Yeah I have feel Gamora's death Me too I do I mean I think that might
[02:01:54] I can't tell if that's permanent But you know That feels like it might be retcon'd Maybe If it's gonna be retcon'd It's gonna be Someone's gonna have to die I'll say this too I don't buy for a millisecond That Thanos loves her
[02:02:07] I think it's a decent set up As a sort of emotional Threat within a scene Your say may not do enough To sort of cement that relationship With the flashbacks and stuff Cause he gave her a knife? Cause she fights better than Nebula? No it's more like
[02:02:23] Like he's not like just An elemental force Like a Galactus Like when he arrives in the planet It's all happening off screen for him Like he doesn't actually kill people Other people kill people And this girl approaches him And he's like I like you
[02:02:38] You know what I mean? Like he's still a person A little tiny bit of a person But this feels to me Like they're trying to Use the Gamora relationship The father-daughter relationship To replace the death relationship In terms of giving him an emotional grounding
[02:02:51] And I prefer the death stuff I like the death stuff But I now know why They didn't do that And make sense to me But like I love the death stuff in the comics You're saying you know in that You feel like you've figured out
[02:03:00] Or someone gave you some scoop No I'm saying the stakes I'm explaining to you Make more sense to me Within like Thanos entering this movie universe Because in the comics Thanos' motivation is just like That he's crazy I mean like He's the mad Titan Like he's crazy
[02:03:15] There's literally one person Who's ever been nice to him That person is death And she asks him to prove himself By killing everyone And when I read interviews With like Marcus and McFeely Or whatever their name I'm sorry the writer And they said like
[02:03:30] We just felt like that was too crazy To set up in one movie I go If we're at infinity war And we're deciding that things are too crazy To pull off I don't know what the point of this entire franchise is I think there are other arguments
[02:03:41] For them to not use that as a plotline But if that's the argument Of like We can't have a physical manifestation of death It's like Then what are we doing here If we can't have that I just think they could not find An emotional grounding For that plot
[02:03:54] I think that's the grounding I think the grounding is That's the only person who's ever been nice to him And you also have Kate Blanchett do it No, I don't think that's good I think because then That's all happening Like what I like is Thanos is entering
[02:04:06] Insane to the audience like This is enough with this This is too much Like and I'm gonna I'm gonna equal the scales I'm gonna cut the chaff out I'm going to Cut everything in half Essentially right And the audience is like No we like them
[02:04:22] And then when they all puff into smoke It's not that they're Everyone knows they're not dead forever But it's that you're sad Like and the movie is like You like them Didn't feel sad Couldn't feel less sad The only one that had any emotional impact on me
[02:04:34] Was Spidey just because Tom Holland killed that moment He's a really fucking good actor I will say my biggest problem with the film Is what you said Thanos comes in And he cuts everything in half Including the story Which is Not a full story
[02:04:48] It feels like the movie is stalling for time It feels like this sort of Everyone siphoned off into these small groups Because of course you can't have everyone on set At the same time It's a scheduling impossibility But it feels like you have a lot of groups
[02:05:00] Just sort of waiting around going like Okay Thanos He's gonna be getting here If he comes in They put up a fight You know they're gonna lose He doesn't kill them But they just He doesn't kill people Don't succeed Thanos never kills anyone
[02:05:12] But I'm saying all those showdowns Feel kind of just like Stalling for me To get to this end point And then the end point Feels like a midpoint Well, yeah He kills Loki He kills Gamor He kills Vision There are three deaths that actually feel Like
[02:05:26] Of some consequence In terms of him getting his hands dirty And then people puff in the smoke Yeah, that's cool I don't know I just like I mean that's what he does in the comic I mean they puff in the smoke there too
[02:05:37] I like the setup of what you're saying If the movie was able to within one film It worked on me Resolve itself by Successfully putting up a rebuttal Against that point Which is the Avengers finding a way To through their love For lack of a better term
[02:05:53] Here bear power Right, you know Well maybe I mean I assume the next movie I mean I think the next movie Is basically one last ride With the original crew Because the original crew Are the only ones left basically But this movie feels to me
[02:06:04] Like three hours of Popeye Winding up his punch I love it I didn't love it But I like it And I saw it with two audiences I saw it twice And both of them The audiences were so into it And I You know what I mean solo
[02:06:17] The audience was not super into it No They laughed at some Landosha Chuckles Yeah, chuckles Sort of a smattering of applause When Darth Maul came in Everyone seemed kind of confused Bit of a murmur perhaps That's the most I could give him No Maul rats in our crowd
[02:06:32] I'm trying to think of like one I pitched that joke to Alex Rouse-Perry over text today And he was like You should use it on the plane How's Alex? He saw it At like the same time as us But we didn't see him
[02:06:43] Yeah, I think he liked it more than us But he also likes Last Jedi less than us Oh, he's all wrong Alex Listen to me, Alex Alex Last Jedi is good Alex, how's it going? Hey Alex, how you doing? Hey, how you doing?
[02:06:56] Looking forward to your new movie Christopher Robin trailer dropped today Yeah I don't know how Blankies know That that movie is written by Alex Rouse-Perry Yeah It looks delightful I'm very into it And if I was not very into it I would not talk about it Hey Alex
[02:07:09] You know? That's my policy Yeah, Ben Got anything to say to Alex? Is this a new segment on the show? Or we just address Alex? I like that Yeah You emailed us Like a end to Oh, Tully Tully Oh yeah, that was funny That was really funny
[02:07:27] And I totally got lost in email No, he sent it I think and only I had seen Tully When he sent it I didn't open it because I thought It would contain Tully spoilers Because I knew Tully had a twist It kind of had
[02:07:37] It didn't really have Tully spoilers But he wrote it up in Final Draft As if it was the real script page When I was first reading it I was like, wait, is this just from Tully? Like, I had just seen it
[02:07:47] But the bit and this is not a spoilers At the end of Tully She's listening to points Ron Livingston and Shirley's there on each split And your bud listened to something together Off of an iPod or an iPhone And the bit that Alex wrote
[02:08:00] Was that they were listening To the listing of Ben's nicknames Which would be a funny ending That's super funny And I'm sorry But I didn't say anything People didn't reply to it I think Alex was like that You should just email him Some comedy points Use We Transfer
[02:08:13] Email him some comedy points It'll be fine It'll take very little time Box office I just want to talk about it for a second I'll make like 120, 130 Right? It posted 14 in Thursday previews Which is a record It's more than it worlds end made Memorial Day
[02:08:29] Apparently not a good weekend Not a huge one Because it worlds end Still has the record Yeah And But I think it's because now The first week of May Has become so big That people stay away You know? I mean, so This is interesting So now
[02:08:46] Disney was projecting 130 Essentially Now people are saying It's going to be more like 115 That will not be good No, that will not be good That will be seen I think as a bit of a disappointment Because then That movie probably ends up Around 250 or something
[02:09:00] Which is not good Well, that would be A terrible multiplier But I guess it could happen I mean The thing people are pointing at Is Justice League Was kind of opened With a similar preview And then tanked Right But I mean people Did not like Justice League Yeah
[02:09:14] Then what else? We got Deadpool 2 Have you seen it? He's seen you He's seen me I guess I don't know Yeah Have you seen it? No, I haven't But he emailed me to say That I haven't seen his movie Were you just racking your brains for
[02:09:29] I was trying to think I would come more clever A book club? Have you seen a book club? No, I'm waiting to see it With Romley Yeah, I should see it With Romley That's her fucking Infinity War That really is That is the most ambitious crossover
[02:09:40] Event in history for Rom Can I tell you Todd's line That really is so good Yeah More of an afternoon than a movie So good Todd Bander were a friend of the show But he said that I was like Shit, that's so fucking smart
[02:09:53] He's gonna win the Pulitzer Infinity War Which is making a lot of money Still in the top five It's interesting that Infinity War and Black Panther Kind of have inverse relationships Domestic and foreign Infinity War is already Way past Black Panther worldwide Yes But not domestically
[02:10:12] It probably won't pass it domestically Although it's gonna come closer Than I thought it would I think end up at five or six It's at six It's at six or three right now I think it'll go away It'll go like six, fifty maybe Maybe not Somewhere there
[02:10:25] I'm at five or six in the all time chart Oh, yeah, oh, sure Because worldwide is number three Of all time I think now It's a very popular movie worldwide Yeah, and it's half a movie Life of the Party Melissa McCarthy Yeah
[02:10:39] I'm sure they had a nice time making that one You know she has some interesting Movies coming up this year I think Can you ever forgive me? Looks great Looks cool So into that Did you see a quiet place now? I'm just, because you haven't
[02:10:52] Been seeing a lot of movies No, I haven't You're found busy Well don't you go to the diaper theater? You done? No, I saw a quiet place Oh you did? Did you like it? Yes It was great Ask me if I liked it Did you like it? Yes
[02:11:04] You saw it? Yeah, I liked it I saw it at the diaper theater It was a diaper theater in the Bronx Near-Growing Film Did you see Overboard at the diaper theater? I didn't Show Dogs? And it used to be an on affairs completist Yeah
[02:11:15] People kind of like that one I'm not going to see show dogs Now that they've cut out Anyone who wants to know about that Google it Google it I'm not going to finish the rest of that I feel pretty You did see Rampage I saw Rampage
[02:11:28] I think we were on the same page On that one Great monsters We need to start talking about Dwayne Keeping him in check There was some trouble there I did not like that movie That egos again a little lack control That movie literally flips you off Black Panther
[02:11:41] Good movie Still in Did you see Tully? I did see Tully I think it's weird I like Tully I think there are two movies there And I like both of them a lot And I think putting them together Is a little bit I largely agree with that Right
[02:11:55] Do you see Mouth Spit sex? No, that's my top movie to see I still haven't seen that Disobedience What have I seen? My favorite movie of the year You were never really here I've seen that twice You were into you never really I loved it
[02:12:06] That's a great movie Then I took a cab and talked about How great it was I think that movie is a masterpiece When did you take this cab? After we got drinks It was okay Rose boys Oh yeah, the brosays Yeah, we That's a great movie
[02:12:18] We all went out to dinner And all had steak and brosay We did We went to dinner Griffin orders first Orders because we saw Brewster McLeod together Which was a very nice experience I ordered like a beer and a hamburger And then Then Ben and David both ordered
[02:12:30] Rose and steak Ben's like, I'll get steak Fritz, right? And Rose And I was like, same thing You know what I want that to And the waitress walks away And I pulled her back And Griffin's like I watch him for five seconds going And he's like, actually, actually,
[02:12:44] Actually, excuse me, excuse me Like you were really bring her back And you were like, Griffin I know you're like Bits But it's fine Order what you want to order And she's like entering the order Into the computer thing She's typing it in
[02:12:54] It was a race against time But then we became the brosay boys We were the brosay steak Boys and yeah You're never really here Which was a divisive movie But we seem to be all I have masterpieces Yeah, it's all masterpieces Have you seen First Reformed yet?
[02:13:05] No, I need to see First Reformed I really recommend that Disobedience, I'm sure everyone is On the edge of their seat Listening to what movies are On my 2C list Are you kidding me? They are I know that You should see the Claire Denis Movie
[02:13:16] Let the sun shine in Oh, I have seen that Oh, you saw it, okay Yes I don't know I have seen that Did you like it? Yes, it's lovely It's a great movie Julia Benosha is one of her I did That's great
[02:13:28] Yeah, I liked it less than everyone Seems to But I liked it a lot Did you see Death of Stalin? I did Yeah, not into it It was too long You're too long That's a movie where I can't figure out If it's more or less funny
[02:13:41] Because of our current political climate I think it's more But everything is less If that makes sense Yeah Right? Yeah How long is this episode? About 2 hours Yeah, 2 hours Your clocks is 2.15 But we talked for a while Before we started Let's get out of here No, we're done
[02:14:01] Let's do the castle run 5 parsecs Okay, I have the episode 12 parsecs 12 parsecs If you round down Cool, alright I feel like we're sort of Just gliding in at this point You know, the engine's out of gas But we're just It's like Dunkirk Yeah, it is We're Tom Hardy
[02:14:16] We're taking off our mask We're showing our beautiful lips Yeah, you're going to have A little break We're going to go back to Bird We got Ratatouille next week Talking to you with Ron and Joe The siblings We united the siblings We united the siblings
[02:14:32] Actually, in my memory A great episode Yeah, who knows I remember it being fun Who knows? I thought Andriott was the worst one And then we won another Obi for that episode So who knows They held the Obies Like off season I know They had a special Obi
[02:14:46] And a prom two Obies An emergency Obies An emergency Obies But yeah, I mean, yeah Have fun with the rest of Brad Bird The miniseries after that Which we haven't announced But it's mostly done Yep We'll be back Doing topical episodes When What's the next thing
[02:15:01] Well, all Incredibles 2 Essentially a month We're going to record Incredibles 2 My most Not only my most anticipated movie This summer But probably the most excited I've been for a summer movie In years I am very excited I'm sort of in that phase Where I'm like
[02:15:14] I just don't want to think About it too much Because I really don't want it To let me down Like I'm just like I'm trying to I'm mostly ignoring the promotional material Me too But every time I even see A poster up I'm like
[02:15:26] Fuck, I don't want to hang out with that family As far as Pixar sequels go I mean Toy Story 2 You obviously it's your favorite movie TSY, yeah Is there another sequel That like stands out That's like really outstanding Within the Pixar canon
[02:15:41] Yeah, or is this going to kind of Do you think this has a running To take This place up there I think it Has a very easy runway To being the second best Pixar sequel ever I don't know if you know this But
[02:15:54] What if I think it's the best sequel ever Pixar sequel That's insanity You'll kill Kill guy No, no, I mean look If that is the case Then I'm very excited to see The greatest movie ever made But I'll say You know, I don't know
[02:16:09] If you guys know this But Cars 2 makes Cars 3 Look like Cars 1 So that's where my stance on Pixar sequel And we should You teed me up You didn't even know you were doing it But how am I not going to make that joke
[02:16:23] If you ask me what my stance is on Pixar sequel Everyone listening to this episode was like Make the Cars joke again Make the Cars joke again Then he did it And I'll say this I mean Reaffirmed after seeing solo As I hit my papers against the desk
[02:16:36] And that's all the news fit to print Reaffirmed after watching solo I genuinely contend Low bar Faint praise Monsters University is the best prequel ever made I would have to think about it The only thing I could even argue is better Is Godfather Part 2
[02:16:51] Which is only half a prequel I was going to say that's sort of a prequel I'm trying to think of prequels I don't think it fully counts I think Monsters University is the best one So I think My hope is That Incredibles 2 Is better than Monsters University
[02:17:02] Which I think is Pretty solid and is amazing at the end Last 30 minutes rule I like I like Prometheus Yeah, I know you do It's a good prequel I know you do I like the new plan of the apes movies But those aren't really prequels It's a quasi-prequel
[02:17:18] Kind of side prequels And obviously This is a rough list Scorpion King 3 Rise to Power This is a rough list I'm looking at right now Right Yeah I think Finding Dory is good You know, I would like Incredibles 2 To be A full stop Proper important movie
[02:17:42] I want it to be important Fox in the Hound 2 That sucks That thing's a piece of shit I don't know Rea McIntyre is a piece of shit Ben just handed David a post-it note What does it say? Oh, thank you to Audio Boom and RxBar
[02:17:54] And we transfer for sponsoring the episode Yeah, thank you RxBar Once again for preventing me from having Diarrhea on set Thank you all very much for listening Please remember to rate, review, subscribe That's a celebrity endorsement What if that was like Clooney's Like the finest RxBar
[02:18:11] No Diarrhea tonight, you know I'm trying to transition into being RxBar's On-camera spokesperson You genuinely love RxBar If RxBar is listening He talks about him a lot Seriously, I'll say this RxBar, if you're listening If you want to send me some more free RxBar
[02:18:29] I'll keep talking about them any chance I get I'd like to I'll tweet about them I'd be happy if RxBar continued to sponsor this show Don't send it to David because I want to have the upper hand Yeah, Ben just walked out of the studio
[02:18:39] Then walked back in to ask if we had ended Please remember to rate, review, subscribe Thank you for listening Thanks to Joe Bowen Oh my God! What? Oh my God, this is amazing What a move, you executed this Oh, Ben is dancing Someone just walked into the studio
[02:18:56] Get on mic Hey Blankies Joe Bowen here It's Joe Bowen We had heard rumor We had heard legend That's the only reason you were excited for us to wrap things up then You just wanted us to get to the thank yous
[02:19:08] How long have you been waiting outside Joe? Oh, listen to me God Because we just did a bunch of horseshit I was afraid you were going to say Since you started recording the Incredibles episode No then he would be dead He would be a skeleton
[02:19:24] He would have killed himself As all our listeners apparently did Yeah, the most controversial thing we've ever done I just can't believe that's the thing that breaks the camel's back I can believe it Whatever, I don't know I don't know why anyone does anything
[02:19:37] Thank you to Laymunk for our theme song Thank you too And for Guto for our social media Go to BlankiesIread.com for some real nerdy shit Tune in next week for Talking Tui Yep Yep And as always Cars 3 makes cars God damn it Cars 2 makes
[02:19:56] I don't know what I already did We can't even do it now Turn it off It's the opposite That's where I was fucked up Cars 2 makes cars 3 look like cars Okay, bye Roland Roland James James, Brolin James, Brolin We're Brolin right now? We're Brolin
[02:20:26] We're a couple of Bros who are Brolin Down the street I'm loud I'm hot It's not crisp I'll fix your head They're just a little loud Can we do I heard a podcast about you I was wondering if it's true And then everything
[02:20:41] They've podcasted about me is true Sure I can't do him Do you want to do him or you can do either one You do Lando You do the thing I heard a story about you I mean just go and whatever I heard a story
[02:20:55] But you know what I mean he is that weird sort of like Do that, do that, that sounds good That's not bad It's not good It's too nerdy It's not bad Okay, I heard a podcast about you And I was wondering if it's true You off book
[02:21:07] I'm off book Okay




