The Beginning of The End - Revenge Of The Podcast

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: David Griffin I have a bad feeling about this

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Griffin Eman David Sips

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a Griffin and David present Revenge Of The Podcast!

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Revenge Of The Podcast, this is our new mini-series

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Did they say I have a bad feeling about this in this one?

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They say it a lot in the second one Oh yeah

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They say it within the first 20 minutes of this film which is what we're covering today

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: on today's episode as is tradition It's tradition

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We always have so many Hori-old traditions

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We break off a mini-series which is the first up to the first crazy edit

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's what do you call it? It's not a wipe edit, it's the one

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a windshield wiper edit It's like the clock edit

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah It's like the hands of a clock

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah we're doing the first battle sequence slash lightsaber fight slash plane crash

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: 22 minute

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a I just called it a cartoon episode

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like an episode of you know Samurai Jack

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I have an analogy well except it's not a masterpiece

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right I have an analogy I want to throw out later in the episode

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But just you know let's just set the table quickly

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Because who knows maybe first time listening

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It could be

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This is my series started out as us doing a limited series

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: about the Phantom Menace, a film that we thought never got a sequel

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah we're real stupid George Lucas' sci-fi opera clearly had big plans

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and bigger narrative ambitions We found out the end of that mini-series

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In fact there was a sequel called Attack of the Clones

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The second Phantom Menace movie

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We took a brief detour into judging the judge

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay let's stick on Star Wars for now

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The original question was what is the Phantom Menace about

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah right and then this with Attack of the Clones it was is this a good sequel

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait do you have a core question for this third film we just uncovered

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have one yet I mean I have to make a confession

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I this week for two reasons only watched up to the point that we're discussing today

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_00]: One is I thought let's keep it fucking pure

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I have now uncovered the memories because we didn't know this movie existed

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and then we realized we did in fact know it existed

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I know why I buried the memories I'll tell you that

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw three times in theaters and I don't remember

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember like any of it

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you really don't

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember the end only

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I was watching this shit and I like

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: None of it was ringing a bell

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But so I watched the first 22 minutes on it because I was like keep it pure

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Actually don't have the knowledge of where it's going when you're watching it

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And only talk about it

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Call up the opening crawl

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: What the beginning sets up

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And two was a poor time planning on my part

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the real reason

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's time management

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I put it on last night and just couldn't turn it off

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just bringing up the opening crawl

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a core question yet because I haven't seen the whole thing yet

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it um

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: True

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to find the right word this

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it has to be something about like

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that we know he's made three of them

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: George Lucas

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right or end director

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We've been analyzing these movies from this stance of like

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: What was he trying to do

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: What would you want this to build to

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: We now have the complete picture

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The Star Wars trilogy

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The Phantom Manus trilogy

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the question has to be like

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: What was

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Does this conclude the story well

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I guess that's the question

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Is this a fitting end to the Star Wars trilogy

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the question

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the mystery

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the investigation

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We figured it out

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: There we go

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Geez

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like pulling teeth with you

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been sleeping well

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: A long time ago

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: In a galaxy far far away

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this before

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to stop once again

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Not discussed enough that these are period films

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: For crying out loud

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I really yeah

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They're so ridiculous

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They're period movies

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They're period picture

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying period

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: They're period picture

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they're set a long time ago

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Long time ago

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just rolling over my power cord right now

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All right there we go

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So read in the crawl

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay this is always

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always exciting to break off a new crawl

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good way to start

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We like a crawl

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Revenge of this

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We like a good crawl

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: By the way this movie is garbage

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Just just just

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I only watched the first twenty minutes

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah just a frothy shit

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what this movie is

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to be

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Because David

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's immediately worse than the other two

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: David we can't get this cynical and negative

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you don't want me to be negative

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna make it to ten episodes

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want me to be negative

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we got to do ten episodes

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: This might not be a ten episodes

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It might not be

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it can ever

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It might break us

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna see what I want

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It somehow looks worse than the last one

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I got some really good guess lined up

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't talked to you about it

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Not specific dates

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But I've been like

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Reaching out to people

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And getting time frames of like

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay I'm off work

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: These two weeks

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm back this week or two weeks

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So like

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about that

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have some fucking killer guess coming up

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: All right

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the opening crawl

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Excited for the guests

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: War

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh I mean

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: David come on

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty good

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: David come on

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The Republic is crumbling under attacks

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: By the ruthless Sith Lord Count Dooku

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of cool

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Although you're like

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh why didn't we see that

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Crumbling that sounds fun

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like let's watch some of that

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: David it's not worded as

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The Republic has crumbled

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It is crumbling

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We're mid crumble

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna get to see some of the fucking crumble

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Now here's this sentence

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Not quite so much

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like fucking active

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We're in the action

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_02]: There are heroes on both sides

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Evil is everywhere

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I don't know what that really means

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There are heroes on both

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying like

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: There are good people and bad people

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: On both sides of this

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean of course

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: A little less compelling

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a war

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Not every person is

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: All right now here we go

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Heroes are but there's evil

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And now we've got like

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: A

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait say that sounds one more time

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There are heroes on both sides

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Evil is everywhere

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it sounds like

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very existential

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it also

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It kind of kind of makes itself

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget evil is everywhere

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: There are heroes on both sides

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's evil

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's just saying

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Good and bad

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay fuck

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Makes it a bit

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Rainy and sunny

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: All right now here's

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: This is about his

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Blinding a left turn

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a U-turn

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna need some peanuts

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: While you read this

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: In a stunning move

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The fiendish droid leader

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: General Grievous

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Has swept into the Republic Capitol

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Leader of the Galactic Senate

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay first off George

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: A little

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: To describe your own

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah pump the brakes

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah pump it

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're not saying like

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And not like the black eye

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: A man of stunning power

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You're saying like

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: A stunning narrative turn

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah okay

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: In a stunning off-screen narrative turn

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And a person you've never heard of

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay wait give me

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Give me the sentence again

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: In a stunning move

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: The fiendish droid leader

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: General Grievous

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Has swept into the Republic Capitol

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The leader of the Galactic Senate

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay okay okay

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So Palpatine's a hostage

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty cool

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is interesting

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we also know

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he's pulling the strings

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: On both sides

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and we don't know who

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Grievous works for

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And who he is

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Or what he is

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Or what's going on

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Or why he's fiendish

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no okay

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of liking this now

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay so Grievous

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: No I am

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm liking this a lot

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a Steffie

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Grievous is a droid general

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He is a

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The general of the droids

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he command all the droids

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that his job

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That they went

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay clones

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: One side

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Humans

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Non-cloned humans

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: One side

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Droids

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: One side

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Three sides

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a triangle

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Or do they

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Did they need a general

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And they were like

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's build one

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: As the separatist

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Droid army attempts to flee

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The besieged capital

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: With their valuable hostage

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Two Jedi knights

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Lead a desperate mission

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_02]: To rescue the captive chancellor

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Dot dot dot

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder which to

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's good to know

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting to note

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That like this preamble

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Really only speaks to

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The first 20 minutes of the movie

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the rest of the movie

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't really have

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Anything to do with

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is maybe

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Because the first 20 minutes

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Solves this issue

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Kidnapping

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And the war

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty like

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: 90% of it at least

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe how it crawls to function

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe to be set up

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So we have mystery

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a back story

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay so the two Jedi's

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing are gonna be

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeriel Poo from Yaddle

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're absolutely

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yaddle never shows up again

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We actually never talked about that

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: She's only in episode one

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: She's not in the council

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: On the other ones

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They fired her

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a good sidebar

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Just because

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: A lateral thinking

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And no one listening

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Would have this thought

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yaddle and

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeriel

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Quirming Yeriel Poof

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Makes me think of

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Last night I was reading our reviews

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: On iTunes

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[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That people are leaving reviews

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so awesome

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: 25 5-star reviews

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[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so great

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[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: From some

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking Sith Lord

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Out there

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who it was

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't write the review

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Did he identify himself as a Sith Lord?

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not supposed to do that

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They did not write the review

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh they just left the star

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They just left the star

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Can you pull it up though

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause we have

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to find it

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the internet in here is

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Really bad

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, we had a review

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That corrected

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They said

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Very nice things people had to say

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Including the two reviews written by Ben

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Very

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Ben

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Ben

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And you'll know which two they are

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause one of them has signed The Haas

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And the other one has signed Mr. Positive

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the reviews pointed out

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That we have been making a big faux pas

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Across too many series

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jedi with the Kakarot face

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Who we have been calling

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Plu Klune this entire time

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Is in fact called Plow Klune

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how you pronounce it

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Show Klune

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about that

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: His name is never said aloud

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe that's part of the problem

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Apologies to Plow Klune

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, apologies to the Kakarot race

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He represents

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a Kakarot face

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay well I'm just loading these reviews

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_02]: They'll be ready in like 20 minutes

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But hey

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep it up

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep rating

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Keep reviewing

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're a

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking Sith

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: We got no time for your one star garbage

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Three are higher

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Guess what

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: No, five are higher

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, how about this

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Six are higher

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Well no

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Then no one's gonna leave a review

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause they won't figure out how to leave a six star review

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you been watching the

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Review

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the best

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see the six star episode?

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a best

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's my favorite show on television

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I give it six stars

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Me too

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm throwing down the gauntlet

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: If you

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Give us a one star rating or review

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You are not allowed to listen to the show anymore

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Done

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Done

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Done

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking Siths allowed

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: If you give us one star

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you write a nasty comment

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You're fucking out

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You're out

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm deeming you a Sith

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta wear that on your fucking chest

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like a scarlet ladder

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Have fun getting employed

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta go door to door

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: When you move to a new neighborhood

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And knock

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: The Sith really

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They really struggle with

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Getting employed

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They really do

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's tough to find a job once you've been

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You know identified as a Sith Lord

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but here's

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: For me

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's actually not true

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: If you see in this movie

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you ask me

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It speaks a lot to the way

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That our country stigmatizes mental illness

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying the Sith are mentally ill

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying I don't like what they do

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But perhaps we should investigate

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: What leads someone to become a Sith in the first place

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I found our podcast on iTunes

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's read some reviews

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's some reviews

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Sith are mentally ill

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would any sane person want to be a Sith?

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not cool

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, we have a parental advisory

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's content

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well it was all that TC14 talk

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to make a call there

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I did talk about robot pussy

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: All right well here's

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: The crab things review

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Quote

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: The title of the review is Mr. Positive

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Quote

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Hate these guys

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Attack of the clones is dumb

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Five stars

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Five stars

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for that

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So uh oh he's a bit

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't know if he's a Sith or not

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's Jenna Carly

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Very informative

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I learned a lot about Rachel Billson's personal life

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Great show

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all we asked

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really glad we could be at service

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah that's great

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: From Lawsindel

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Fanfic

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This is just for the fanfic episode

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievably sexy

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Five stars

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well David sounds like it's time for you to drink my diarrhea

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: No thank you

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Hated that episode

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't want to have and tried to shut it down

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And we got fucking specific fans who will only hear for the fanfic

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was Ricky Irwin who pointed out that you're saying

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Poe Klune wrong

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah good guy

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Good guy

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Good man

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Um

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Cold milk

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The most delightfully offbeat and weirdly insightful film pot

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: No this one's actually just nice

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not weird

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you though cold milk

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great man Chris Cooks

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I like this one

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We read his theory and fanmasked

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Cold milk has one line I really like

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: If you turn your screen over

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Jesus

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Griffin's enthusiasm stories and willingness to potentially sabotage his career for a joke

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Really carry the podcast

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas my more understated tone compliments

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know he really just likes you

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Well he's an old friend of mine

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He's an old friend of mine

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We were friends like 10 years ago

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Literally butter

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I love this podcast and listen to it almost daily to fall asleep

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: My girlfriend however is not a fan

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Five stars

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't leave us a review girlfriend

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah this is my favorite comment

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying would our podcast is literally butter or that's the name the username

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Literally butter is the username

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: But our podcast is literally butter

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I love that he loves it

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to I mean

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what kind of dreams he's having

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And also is he saying we're a snooze fest

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh no look I listened sometimes to a podcast to sort of

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Dose off it happens

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't fall asleep last night so I

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Called up a

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You do it though

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Kaka kaka kaka

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I um I pulled up a youtube playlist of all the time and talking about pizza

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure sounds great

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I just listened all that time and talked about pizza

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay uh Patrick Cottner

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey hey pat

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey pat

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Says all the movies

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope they do all the movies

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Every movie ever

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Five stars

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I mean

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: We used to think there were only six movies in total

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're starting to realize there are more and more

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think we might be able to do that

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And finally I wanted just the one star review

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a review

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no no listen to this

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh look

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: From Five Top E A T One N G

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Which

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Stop eating

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And in Weed Speak

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Stop eating on mic

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's disgusting

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_02]: One star

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Eat some peanuts right now

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: For that motherfucker

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah we have 25 reviews

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: 24 or 5 stars

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: One one star

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Still pretty good

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't hurt our average rating

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually really gross

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh okay

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Ben's like turning your mic down right now

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Turning it up

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: This is I would want to say record time for us to avoid talking about the movie

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah seriously

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We're 20 minutes into episode one

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: All right now we I let it run a little bit

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're probably only about 11 in

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So this movie begins with a huge opening battle over Coruscant

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Between a bunch of triangle shapeships and donut shapeships

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess there's a lot of smaller ships kind of weaving around

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Smaller droids

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But you can't really

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah droid ships and stuff

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't really tell what's going on

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I gotta stop you already

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is my first complain I have about the movie

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah please

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not what how a Phantom Menace movie is supposed to start

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay so how is a Phantom Menace movie supposed to start

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: In your opinion with an assassination attempt

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: As the second movie does

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Crawl crawl crawl crawl crawl

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It does that

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Fades into just space

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Then we see a ship go by

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that's true

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The first one it's the the Jedi Ambassador ship

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the second one it's you know Amidala's

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Royal cruiser

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and this one it's like we see the sun

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we kind of pan down to Coruscant

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we see this like epic battle is happening over Coruscant

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: We see there like a billion ships

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right already I'm like

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie is is kind of saying like

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's zooming out as wide as possible

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This is something I'm gonna talk about a lot

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's really trying to show off how much detail it can fit into a frame

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Which

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Is annoying

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah great job Georgie

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Tons of detail I hope you're happy

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Drink that detail in a cup of my diarrhea

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Mix it in with diarrhea

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I got a fucking diarheumic flurry machine

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You could pick your mixin

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And your mixin is details

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Carry on

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_00]: We pan down

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: One ship the central ship sort of flies by in classic Phantom Menace fashion

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's so much other fucking shit going on

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: What usually happens is ships flying by

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's like a big action

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like a lull right

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah we get to something

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So in clones we got ship goes by lands

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of silence you see people standing there

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like peaceful it lulls you into it

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Explosion

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad opening

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: In Phantom we see the ship going by

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They're communicating permission to dock this and that

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The ship land

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: There's like four minutes before they get in

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But it like it's situates you into the world

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Not this time war

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: My brain immediately turned off

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's really terrible

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's such a fucking overload

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Well especially because it's like

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's a cartoon

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a cartoon thing you're watching

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's 17 minutes before we have more than one line of dialogue at the same time

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Real long

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the balance between like actor because

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The shit's going on I don't care you've given me no reason to care

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't assume just because I watched the two other movies

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe do your big space battle at the end

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like in Phantom Menace

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Where it doesn't work but it works better than this

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta let us get in the worst seat

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta let us kick our shoes off

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta let us resituate ourselves to the characters

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: War

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: War

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So just shit

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We got Anakin

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: We got Anakin and we got Obi-Wan

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They're in fighter pilots

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan fighters and

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan's got our old buddy R2

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And Anakin

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: No no Anakin has R2

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan has R4

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh right

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That red piece of shit who gets his head ripped off

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that was kind of fun

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: To watch because I hate R4

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: By Buzz Droids

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Vulture Droids

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the other thing

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Every 45 seconds is introducing a new

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at those a new toy for you to buy

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But they're like naming it

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And then showing the three action features that toy will have

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean one of the most

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Really it really made bubble boil

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And I had forgotten about it

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like when the Buzz droid is on Obi-Wan's ship

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And R2 is trying to zap it

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And Obi-Wan's like

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Hit the center eye

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's literally like a Star Fox game

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's you know he's just giving video game instructions to the like

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Programmer of this video game that will come out

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're giving you instructions for the toy

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Hit the center eye

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is like if you hit the center eye

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Then the thing explodes

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The spring loaded feature

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a Buzz droid?

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: No I didn't

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I will actually say

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I bought any revenge of the Sith

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that true?

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It was in a period of my life where I thought I was

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Had no time for childish things

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Ah

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You put away your childish thing

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and then I got a little older

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I had disposable income

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And now I spent all my money on toys again

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah cool good job

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm doing great

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But merchandise spotlight might come back this season

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have one prepared today

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But they ramped it up again

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do a couple

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: There was some weird shit

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: They ramped it up again

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was they really put pedal to the metal

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And like I know

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I was reading about the history of Phantom Ashtois recently

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The big selling point for this movie was they were like

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not gonna focus on characters

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna focus on ships and fucking droids

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And you see it

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Cause this movie starts and it's like 80,000 ships

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: All these droids

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like all these fucking missiles flying

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: There's so many droids in this movie

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's missiles flying

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_02]: There's this extended thing with like Obi-Wan

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Distracts the missiles by sort of zipping around

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And Anakin goes into like a spin that makes them

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like torpedo missiles

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in addition to like the sort of laser shit we've had

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah sure

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And you've got the buzz droids that kind of crawl over your ship

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And like sort of rip it apart piece by piece

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the vulture droids are the ones where their like

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Legs flip down and they sort of

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They were in the first one

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They were in Phantom Menace a little

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They're at the end attack the clones

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And now they're like a big fucking thing

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I just like I don't know

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Dude I'm 26 years old right

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel a million

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I look like I'm 12

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm 26

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just sat there and I was like

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_00]: God I'm so thick

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Get a fucking headache

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I felt like a grandpa watching this opening

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I just was like

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The kids like this

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_02]: No I mean it kind of reminded me of

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Transformers

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Which I think had come out a year earlier

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_02]: 2004 I think is Transformers

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: The first one

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no sir

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: 2007

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: It's 2007

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay I don't know

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No sir

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah of course it's not 2004

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow they've made only

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: They've made four of those things since 2007

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Um

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Where like when I remember when I watched Transformers

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_02]: At the end I was like

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's happening

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally my eyes can't track this

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I love the first Transformers

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I like it too

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But even that's an example of like

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay that movie starts in media res

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_00]: With like the attack on the military base

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Transformers does?

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But uh you see a military base

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That although heightened to a bay degree

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Behaves like how we know a military base

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Behaves in the real world

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: In Transformers

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like what's this

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm struggling to recall

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Weird signal what's this

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the helicopter turns into a robot

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It functions sort of as a four sequence

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the beginning is good

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I just think the end is horrible

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Transformers

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure it becomes chaos

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But like that's the opening

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then from there we go to Shia LaBeouf

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And we have like 30 minutes of character

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Before the Transformers end

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Totally agree

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and that's like

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking bare minimum shit here

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even like fucking rich characterization

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Although I do think

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: First-hand Transformers is a very very functional blockbuster

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a functional blockbuster in a way the sequels are not

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: No the third one was great

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The third one's easily

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the third one

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The math

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the math

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a masterpiece which is really good

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but two and four are horrendous

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Almost a watchable

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Four was such a problem

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Two is the worst thing

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the other thing is George has always been like

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty reserved in his cinematic style

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though he's doing like space battles

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You know a lot of slowpans

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of you know yeah

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And he centers the frame

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And the action happens within the frame

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And if there is any movement

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It is a slow pan

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Phantom Menace has really clear action

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Really clear action

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Attack of the Clones

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And not so much

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I think there is until the end

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: When we get to the war

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Where he openly said

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I just went to the special effects

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And had to do a lot of stuff

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right yeah

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And this one must be the same process

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: This feels like from the get go

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He did that for everything

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well because it's three years on

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You've got better technology one imagines

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Show off

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But it also feels like he's so dispassion about that

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean because what they say

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: In fucking attack of the clones

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the last scene of the movie

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Is the war breaking out

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And he said you know

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically what I wrote in the script was

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: All hell breaks

[00:23:27] Right

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I handed it to them

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And said

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: One page

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And interpreted that how you want

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right he wrote one sentence

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't describe any of it

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: This it feels like every page of the script

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He went something crazy happens

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You figure it out

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there are two lines of dialogue

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't think he wrote lines like yeah

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like look out

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Buzz droids

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Hit the center eye

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: No that's what I'm saying

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you wrote one or two lines of dialogue

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So that they know what to reverse engineer

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The toys around and how to make them work

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You hit the center eye the thing it looked

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the button

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's button activated

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And the video game designers could do that

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the rest of it was just like

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know more stuff happens with

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But it feels like it's made by 70 different film

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Making the cameras fucking wheezing around

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Spinning around

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Doing fucking tricks

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Doing an Ollie a 180

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Not to mention

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe taking

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to go through this narrative

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to go through narrative order

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there's so much chaos I can't remember what fucking happened

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: In the pilot sequence when they're in the

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan and Anakin are bantering

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the sort of the same as Deku Klunstil

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: A little better

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit better

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Make this argument

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've switched positions now

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Ewan McGregor is much bigger in this movie

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Than he is in the last two

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think he's appropriately sized

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_02]: No I agree that's what I'm saying

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: He's finally like

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Playing at McDermott levels

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Quite hammy

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's eating the ham

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's good

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Way better than

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Delicious honey baked ham

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_02]: In the first movie he's kind of a non-entity

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: In the second movie he's too serious

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but he's got some gravitas in the second one

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Some but in this one he's actually got it

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: In my opinion

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: With such a ham

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Hayden Christensen still bad

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I would contend worse

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Worse in later scenes

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But in this scene

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't completely just like

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know deliver every line in a total monotone

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I think his line readings are

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Once he gets to the romance word

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know and everything else

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say his line readings are more natural

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I would correct that by saying his line readings are less unnatural

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Correct?

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we agree his line readings are less unnatural

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Within the first 22 minutes of this movie

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah at the start

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But then he gets back into the old habits

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay in the first 22 minutes of the movie

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: His line readings are less unnatural

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That I haven't said I also think he is

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 50% less charismatic than he was in the first movie

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And I do not think he was charismatic in the first movie

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I agree with you

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: His line readings sound more like how a human being talks

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But it also feels like they just woke him up

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he fell asleep in between each line

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And they had to shake him in the green screen cockpit

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And he went uh Obi-Wan

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what we're gonna do about these droids

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Even more than in the second movie

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is truer later

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's more just like actual dialogue scene

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It really feels like George Lucas just said

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the same old Jackson like

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay say you sit over there

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And so when Jackson was like oh um

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You sit over there and he's like we got it

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll edit that in

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't let them read this one

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He was like telling them the land

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Having them repeat it like a parrot

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah right exactly

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It really feels that way because

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But he encouraged himself

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay so we see him he's got

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin's got long hair now

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember that when he was like a like a sandy blonde little boy

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay the second movie's hair is a little darker

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got the Jedi brain

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's got yeah he's got this sort of crew cut

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This movie's got dark

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got an Obi-Wan haircut

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got this long shoulder yeah

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh but Obi-Wan's haircut was long but still neat

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true straight

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This is more uh you know L'Oreal

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Sort of bouncy

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Got some chin and

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks mad dirty

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell if he dyed his hair

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Or if it's gotten darker

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Force dyed

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's got a scar across his eye

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a little scar

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's supposed to be like oh this is Anakin

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course he's got a robot arm

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a robot

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: With like a black glove

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Needed even be said

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie starts and the Clone Wars are wrapping up

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: All right we didn't even

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we joked about it so much but like yeah

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the last big battle of the Clone Wars

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And Anakin's got the scar and as I we just don't

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess oh man

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like he probably had a crazy battle

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Something must have he must have grown up a lot

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't see any of that

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Just gotta say

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: The Clone Wars makes no sense

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Based on this battle

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Go on

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_02]: They the the separatist army has somehow broken through everything to get to

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: One assumes the most impregnable part of Republic space right

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: The core of sent must be at the center of everything

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So they've gone all the way in

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But and yet this is their downfall somehow

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They capture the Chancellor that doesn't work out

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know they get the Chancellor back

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But then is that it like are all their ships destroyed in this

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Is this like a last gasp effort is that the idea

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: How did they get all the way in is my question

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I don't know

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah well obviously

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Back to Hayden Christensen

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We should watch the Clone Wars show maybe to explain that so

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah we should

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: There are two different shows we've discovered

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: One directed by J.J. Tarkowski who's one of

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I would contend our finest living filmmakers

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean he doesn't make films but sure

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He did make a film that was called Holtre Transylvania and it fucking rules

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen Holtre Transylvania I forgot that was him

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Ready for me to throw my soapbox down the ground for a second

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: That movie gets no credit because there's no sandwich in it

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But guess what and all those cronies it's like the happy mass and crew doing all the voices

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That movie is written by Robert Smigel

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got fucking good jokes

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got fucking good ass jokes

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Did they do two

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming out and like

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: No but I mean like are they involved or did they like pass them

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Smigel wrote on it

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: J.J. Tarkowski still directed it

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: J.J. Tarkowski who did uh

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Dexter's lab

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No I love Jenny

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Sam Raidjack

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Right yeah sorry

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Star Wars the Clone Wars the 2D mini series

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Is one of the finest

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Preveyors of real expressive

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Character animation

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Tartotowski and Smigel wrote

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Holtre Transylvania 2

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm fucking I'm so jazzed

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's my most anticipated movie of the fall

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I um Holtre Transylvania is a film that is so immensely visual

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That even though I think the jokes are good

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of the Sandler Crony's who often sound like they're kind of fucking phoning it in

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Who often on screen feel like they're phoning in their performances

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: In this movie give active engaged performances that recall their earlier days on SNL when they gave a shit

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You could watch all of Holtre Transylvania on mute and you would get every single story plot point

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he fucking uses animation like Chuck Jones

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He does

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's really expressive

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not limited to the physics of how a character would behave

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Pixar but Pixar is pretty traditional and like

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a model and we'll animate that model as if they are a puppet

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Holtre Transylvania characters' bodies are changing to fit their moods

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They're becoming larger and smaller

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Their arms are stretching out

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like a fucking Looney Tunes cartoon

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It rules

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what else is cool?

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Monsters

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Monsters are the best David

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone should watch Holtre Transylvania

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Great now they're on mute

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But then there was a Clone Wars

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_02]: He made that in a minute

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: No but then there was another Clone Wars

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh right

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So that was based on his style but he had no involvement in it

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Well and also his 3D animation doesn't look as interesting

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and it ran like five seasons

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been trying to watch

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they made a movie of it

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of it recently

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been trying to get into it for the sake of this podcast

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd only seen a smattering of episodes across

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna try to now go through and watch from the beginning

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard it gets good like season two

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no thanks

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway so the Clone Wars are over is our point

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the point I was gonna make

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Basically the end of the Clone Wars

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like what they're trying to show is that like Anakin's grown up

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's found whatever sort of inner peace

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he doesn't seem whiny

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have the same sort of like devil make-hair attitude

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a little more grounded

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And boring

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's not like challenged yet

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And boring

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And boring

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But Obi-Wan is trying to counteract by just being like

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan's in his house

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't say that

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But great if you did that

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Well yeah he's being a little more boisterous

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: He's almost hitting boss-nass levels of like

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey Ben

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Well is it that Obi-Wan is still a bachelor

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And Anakin's got the old ball and chain

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He does

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin definitely seems like

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a real king of queens vibe going on

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just like

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: God fucking domestic life is tough

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: King of Queens starring Kevin James

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Who plays Frankenstein and Hulk to cancel Vanya

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Which you should all watch

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's the seven play

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's the seven play

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The wolf man

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He's so good in it

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like a wolf man who's got like seven cubs

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just so fucking tired

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's got to take care of seven wolves all the time

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just slumped over

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And he goes like I got to get time away from the kids

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all of Shann's wife

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great movie

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Hotel Transylvania

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I wish they had called it

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: A Houttu Transyltenia

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think?

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: To Tudysylvania

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Who plays the late

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Who plays his daughter

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Selena Gomez in a surprisingly emotional

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Voice performance

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah I mean I've seen the trailer for

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Hotel Transylvania two a couple times

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And like you know

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Has like a couple of solid laughs

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that I was really disappointed by the trailer for the

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_00]: This is gonna be a whole episode about Hotel Transylvania

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We gotta get it off of this track right now

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I was not planning on seeing Hotel Transylvania

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like I can't believe Jenny Tardowski did

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't even look like his work

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I had a flight get delayed

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And I like went to the nearby movie theater

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I had three hours to kill

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And was like this movie fucking rules

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And no one's talking about it

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't not if you're best in anime film

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it? No I was about to ask

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: No and like some shitty bullshit was instead

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like pure animations

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything animation can be

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Well now I really want to watch it

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's really good

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Great

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Comedic character animation

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It was nominated for a Golden Globe

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But not on us

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I got it right for once

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They're usually pretty good about it actually

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_00]: C.Lo Green played Murray the Mummy in the original film

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And they recast him with Keegan-Michael Key

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Except because of the whole C.Lo saying

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay if he rapes people or whatever

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If they're asleep or something

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I forget what he did

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: C.Lo Green doesn't like

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes it's not possible to rape someone

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: If they're asleep because they're asleep

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So they couldn't say no

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So he's saying like it's like

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know who knows 5050

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that his argument like you know

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't know yes you didn't know no

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You definitely didn't hear no

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And to that I say

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey C.Lo Green enjoy not playing a mummy anymore

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's your punishment

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And your millions of dollars

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So that year the nominees were

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Brave, Frank and Weenie, Paranorm and

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So they were like you're wrapped

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Dude 2000

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a picture wrap on C.Lo Green

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Just want to say 2012 pretty stacked

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Brave which I don't like but you know

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's okay

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Frank and Weenie which is pretty good

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a huge fan

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know I can

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a huge timber defender as we know

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a huge fan

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Paranorm and which is the deserving

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe winner of that year

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Was probably my second or third favorite movie that year

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Great movie

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: 2012 that was my second favorite movie

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Wreck-It Ralph which is also fantastic

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Is really solid

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And would maybe also be my choice

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I like Coachelt Transylvania more than Wreck-It Ralph

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_00]: No thank you

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And then the Pirates Band of Misfits

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Which was the one that kind of snuck in

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's really a cute movie

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I like

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I would go Paranorm and H.C. Transylvania

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Wreck-It Ralph

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Pirates

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Brave

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Was that the lineup?

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Frank and Weenie

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like Frank and Weenie

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It was better as a short

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin is boring

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He's real boring

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got nothing going on here

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's almost

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's more fun in this than he is later

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like he only gets more boring

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't watched it yet

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We got just talk about the 22 minutes

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about the whole movie

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_00]: No

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're shooting around and their droids coming in

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And shit's going fucking bananas

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's white noise

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking a Spielberg documentary that's him talking about his own work

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Recently was like Spielberg on Spielberg

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was talking about 1941

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And Georgie

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Stevie Spielberg

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Stevie Weenie

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Is really

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm friend of Georgie

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm friend of Georgie

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Georgie

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Stevie Weenie I think is very interesting

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's very candid about his failures

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah definitely

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Very clear out about that

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a really good like

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Self-analyzing

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He's great

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And then so when he compliments himself on stuff

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You're like

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You can get away with that

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's really happy with this

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you can tell

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he knows when he's good and he knows when he's bad

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was talking about 1941

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And he said you know

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I realized when I was sitting there in the theater

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone was sitting there with their ears plugged

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Gone

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_00]: People were complaining that the movie was too loud

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And I

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: For which

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_00]: For which

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 1941

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: For which

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: 1941

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Which was famously his first flop

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He was coming straight off of

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Jaws and Close Encounters

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's Before Raiders

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He has Belushi and Akroyd

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Who like a year before this movie came out

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Pulled off the Holy Trinity of

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: What was it?

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Anvil House was the number one movie in America

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: SNL was the number one TV show in America

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And the Blues Brothers had the number one album in America

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So John Belushi like couldn't have been bigger

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And Akroyd was like his best collaborator

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like I'm putting fucking Akroyd and Belushi

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In an action comedy

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Spielberg is going to go to fucking war

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a huge budget

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: With like a weird premise

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: War and oh it's all these weird character actors

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Great character actors

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And the movies just

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Such a big flop

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And everyone thinks Spielberg is cooked

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Not, it wasn't a flop money wise

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was just

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It was seen as a flop

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a disappointment

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was not liked

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no absolutely

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: After all of his movies had been like

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He had yet to make a movie that wasn't like

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No I know

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I know a wild success

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Well the sugar lends takes a crack

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Was a wild success in relation to

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever whatever whatever

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever whatever

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He said it was too loud

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like I didn't mix it any louder than my other movies

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But it was the illusion of

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_00]: There was no silence in the movie

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I had no moments of rest

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So you're sitting there and it's action action action

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Then comedy and people are yelling

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And the bullets are flying

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And their lights and everything

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And even visually it was too loud

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There was too much going on

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The people felt like they couldn't rest

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like that taught me the most important lesson

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: As a filmmaker

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That you need to have these sort of peaks and valleys

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just quoting it

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_00]: He worded it much more perfectly

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was like

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You know the small moments are what are effective

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And build up to the larger moments

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And Spielberg is a master of silence

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Knows when to really like

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Pull back and make you focus on something

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even use Johnny Williams' score

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But George Lucas

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Well this movie is like

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_00]: The first 20 minutes are just fucking 1941

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's interesting because he also talks about

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Lucas in his commentary is like

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Energy and how like the movie is slow here

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it picks up speed

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't want to lose momentum

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he seems to be a tune to this

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But then it doesn't show

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: My favorite moments in favorite moments

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: In Phantom and Clones

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially in Phantom

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Are the moments that are a little quieter

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_00]: There's moments where he just has ships going by

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: As we said within frame

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Or just a very very slow sort of pan

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Things like that

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like okay there's a nice sort of rhythm to this

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is like the first 20 minutes in the movie

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Are like a wash for me

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there's so

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything's flying by

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So much is going on

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Every line the characters say is like a fucking one liner

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: There's so much

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Or like horrible piece of information

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, expository dialogue

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Terrible like clunky

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just my brain just shot off

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And like we've got the battle

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I think as you're mentioning

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_02]: There's this thing where they like crash

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Into the ship

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh right

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They do crazy crash

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh they barely make it in

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and there's a bunch of droids in there

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: And like R2 has like four things

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay we gotta talk about R2

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: We gotta talk about R2

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Running around

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: He lights them on fire

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_02]: He sprays them with oil

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: R2's suddenly in Spectre Gadget

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really annoying

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It's really fucking annoying

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 has by and large been a tactical

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Robot

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He's the repair droid basically

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and he's

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is simple

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Utilitarian

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not meant to move around

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You put him in the ship

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You repair ship right

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And in the second movie

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He had this brief like moment of insanity

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Where he like brutalizes C-3PO and flies around

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But like it doesn't have any relation to anything

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And it just felt tacked on

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And also the only special power we saw him use was the rockets

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even knocking off C-3PO

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he did that in a very like

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_00]: In a way that was consistent with his movements in the first movie

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Dragging C-3PO's head was like

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay he's got like a cord

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden he's got like four arms

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That come out of his body

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like those blue lines

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like holding a cell phone

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like holding those blue lines on his chest

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like little arms

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Aren't just like they flip out

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like articulated with like multiple joints in them

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's also got that data spike thing

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Plus he's got the like the rockets

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and he can shoot

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He can fucking pee pee oil

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: He pee-pees oil

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he uses the rockets to burn people with the oil

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He's fucking he's inspected down to it

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's goofy

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But not only that

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And I watched him

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's moving so fast too

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched the movie with my girlfriend last night

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She had some insights

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Humble right

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she hasn't yeah

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she hasn't seen this movie

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she'd ever seen the movie

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: She'd seen the other one

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And she was just really horrified

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially when he

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Pee's oil all over them

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then sets them on fire

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep gross

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The big battle joys

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And she was like

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not supposed to be violent

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like R2 is like a you know cute little guy

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He likes you know

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You know he's sort of an ornery little guy

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's not like

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a shockingly violent scene

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like imagine if those weren't robots

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I would contend that these first two 20 minutes are entirely violent

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_02]: No they're crazy

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Now this movie is rated PG-13

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and the other two movies are rated PG

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: George is pushing it

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: George is literally like check it out

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Because someone is beheaded in the first 20 minutes

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well even the droid violence seems weirdly

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: More visceral and frightening than it did in other movies

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know if I'm just misremembering

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But every time they like slash a droid

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's done this very angry way

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah sure

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the inner guts of the droid are like

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_00]: This bright seared orange

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That looks kind of like

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and the droids talk a lot too

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like oh my god

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Like whereas before it was just kind of like

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You're knocking down like you know

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a house of cards being knocked over by like a fly swatter

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Now it's suddenly like you're cutting things in half

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And these things seem to have feelings

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're deser more grotesque

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And it all feels like they almost look

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: When they're split up a little more organic than they used to

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It not like

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No I know what you're saying

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It might just be because there's more technology

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So they can like just make them look a little better

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And like that almost bites them in the ass

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's like a lot more like red and orange

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That recalls the visceral of the human body

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_02]: There's also the clones

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's not like this movie has added this other CGI person thing

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to that

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Very important sidebar

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We should talk about it because they are in the first three minutes

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes in the opening fucking thing when like

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin and Obi-Wan are talking over their inner comms

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And like making fucking jokes or whatever

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like sir da da da da

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And they like cut to a clone trooper

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's not a clone trooper

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a clone but he's like wearing just like a fighter pilot uniform

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not wearing the standard clone trooper arm armor

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Armoir

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And he

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's tomorrow morrisan

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's tomorrow morrisan

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Why does his face look weird?

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks almost like tomorrow morrisan is CGI

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I realized what it is

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Is he's wearing not like a strong trooper helmet

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But like a fighter pilot helmet

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like a helmet with a visor

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The visor is fucking computer generated

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The helmet is fucking computer generated

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I don't know if you ever use like face time

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are filters you can do on face time

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a thing you can like put bunny ears on someone's head or whatever

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and so there's like a tracking thing in your computer that like looks and like

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: When you move your head the bunny ears stay roughly on top of your head

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's some lag time

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: If you move around quickly the bunny ears are floating around

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't notice this although obviously it looked super CGI

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Jumped out to me

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like what looks unnatural here

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally the only organic thing in the frame is his face

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And even that doesn't it doesn't look right

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Because there's CGI on the visor over and the helmet

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like when his face is moving they're trying to move the helmet around it

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey guess what George put a fucking helmet on a head

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's also let's talk about

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Put a helmet

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_02]: All right okay okay yes yes yes

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: On a head

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's really creepy because there's this whole thing where they have to like

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Get to the Star Destroyer thing

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And the clones basically like block the laser fire and die

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Like kind of that's like kind of their job like

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Anakin's like let's go help them and Obi-Wan's like they're doing their job dying

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_02]: The whole clone thing is they don't get into it enough

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really weird and creepy

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep so

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Really strange

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_00]: C3PO's

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00]: R2D2 is going all go go gadget

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin and Obi-Wan start like trying to make their way through the ship

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We meet this fucking guy Grievous

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Grievous is a robot with

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The worst

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: The worst character in all three movies worse than Jar Jar Banks

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Worse than uh what's his pants uh

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Neumotian with the legal

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh uh New Conrad

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: New Conrad worse than all of them in my opinion

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well this is a very important point we meet

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: General Grievous

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a he's a rabbit with a cape

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a robot with a cape

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Now my girlfriend said and you wanted me to repeat this because I told you off

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah her reaction is for the podcast

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Why is the robot wearing a cape?

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Is he cold?

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is made of metal metal conducts

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Temperatures

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: No metal think about how cold metal gets

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But robots there he's a robot

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Why would he be cold?

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_02]: None of the other ones wear capes

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it made him metal, metal gets cold

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand the logic is airtight here for me

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Why is he

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Cold metal is in the winter

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_02]: He has essentially what feels like a smokers cough

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah because he's got a cold that's why he's wearing the cape

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He's sort of like uh bring the Jedi to me

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's the most bizarre character

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_00]: This is set in the winter

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He's wearing a cape because he's cold and he has like a common how

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I really

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got the flu I don't know

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He's wheezing

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He looks somewhat organic

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean there's like

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You're my least favorite person

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh thank you you're my best friend

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he has organic pieces

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his eyes

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That are kind of like snake-like

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And when the flesh around his eyes looks like sins

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe he was like a man burned onto him

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah something like that

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's Robocop

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And then not to spoil the rest of the movie because you don't want to talk about it

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But he has like internal some sort of internal organ

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh that's cool

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah no it's not

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember that now

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_00]: John Grievous is there

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I was bass and he's like

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's all right

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_00]: The second

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_00]: This feeds into like the white noise thing of the movie that's going on right

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they introduce him

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's got seven different ticks

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: At the same time

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a cape

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He's limping

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He's coughing

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got weird eyes

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh I don't know that

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He collects lightsabers in his jacket

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I already can't pay attention to this character because too much is

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_00]: There's too much business

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: There is entirely too much business

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And not only that

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We've been told this is like an important character

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Who somehow kidnapped the Chancellor

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He comes off immediately like a fool

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a fool

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's decrepit

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't seem to be able to like walk around really well

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He this whole Chancellor kidnapping plan isn't working

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He takes the Jedi's lightsabers and literally puts them in his pocket

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They immediately just call them back

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you couldn't put him in like a locked box at least

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like ah I'll add it to my collection

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Opens jacket has a pocket puts them in the pocket

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_02]: The jacket doesn't close there's no zipper

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cloak

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a jacket so it's a cape

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a cape

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a cape

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's literally what

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Why do you like put them away

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_02]: They have force powers

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: They can make anything go into their hands

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a bad character

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the worst character

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so much more to talk about with him

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah oh yeah

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I think that he's in the cartoons right

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like like that's where his backstory lies

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's really cool in the Jani Tartofsky cartoon

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I bet

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He fucking makes a meal out of his design

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And they make him an almost silent character

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And so he's a physical present

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait we forgot to mention his accent

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he has like a Dracula accent

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like bringing the Jedi to me

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It feels very inspired by Hotel Transylvania

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very Hotel Transylvania vibe

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I read that Gary Oldman almost played this role

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and then I heard John Rhys Davies almost played the role

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And instead a guy who worked at industrial light and magic played this role

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02]: How did that happen

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Was he just like in the like in the canteen

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And was going like uh-huh

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And Dracula and and George Lucas was like hire this man

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I really think George E. Porgy wanted to get this movie over with

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's possible

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I believe Oldman couldn't do it because the movie has these like weird union rules

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And like you had to be like you know

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And uh that was the rumor I heard at least

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That that was the reason he couldn't do it

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it also just fits into like

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I've been trained in lightsabers

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like on Dooku

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The same part of him that would rather CGI a helmet

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Rather than put a helmet on a head

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Would rather just get a guy

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oldman's fossing

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking Jimmy over there could do it

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Get a guy from down the hall

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh should we have one of our finest living actors

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: No that guy over there mopping up

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Have him play Grievous

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's stupid can you do a voice

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to find this guy's name

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The actor's name

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah whatever

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: No I'm interested

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Um uh but this is a very important point David

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Matthew Wood

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Go on

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's also so modulated

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The performance like whatever voice he's doing

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's also run through like 17 filters

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: No I mean it sounds awful

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: There's just so much fucking

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Barely tell what he's talking about

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Not that it matters

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There's so much camera movement too

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's so much fake CGI camera movement

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like you barely can get your bearings

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Within a single frame

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_00]: David so much visual information

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So much noise

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a sound editor by the way

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That's who Matthew Wood is

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it sounds like he did two bad jobs on this movie

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I just bought like a new fucking sound system for my TV

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And it sounded all burnt out

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[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Grievous is like

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on here

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: No wait we should actually pull back because in between the space battle and grievous is the dooku fight

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about the very first interaction of dooku

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh okay all right okay

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree because I'm actually going back forward

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is just when he sees that they're coming towards him

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he turns to like a nemoidian

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And goes like whatever whatever the fucking dialogue is

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember something

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_00]: No no no no

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But the nemoidian and it's a new nemoidian

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we've seen before

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Goes like sir the Jedi's are coming for us

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He has an American accent

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I noticed that

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This is huge

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It is it's interesting

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like uh maybe this guy should talk different

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He almost sounds like a Californian server

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You know he you're right or absolutely right

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking at some

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like sir the Jedi's are approaching

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and and general grievous is like

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Use the blast of shields

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know ah spaghetti

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah make a pizza paya

[00:49:49] Um

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like a diner chef

[00:49:53] But

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm too bad Jackson Jackson's not been in this one by the way

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Not at all

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: No I know

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck this movie

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah just turn it off

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: TC14 comes back though right

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Griffin

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Double fuck this movie

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Um I think it does feel like in a in a severe instance of too little too late

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone finally prevailed on George

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Or the Georgie Porgy was trying to go like see they don't all sound like that

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_00]: They was just those specific characters

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: But Newt Gunray does come back and guess what

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: He sounds like that

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no I know

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you're saying like look he just has an accent from his planet

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Specifically they're all regionally that was

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Not Chinese aliens maybe that one grew up in space China

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah space China

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This guy grew up in space Valencia

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He sounds like a teenage mutant as a turtle

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_00]: For one minute

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got like two lines yeah

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And he goes like sir I think the Jedi's are here

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Um so no but I think that is after the dooku fight

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they have

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: There's one line he has before the dooku fight

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Where they seem to approach

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay so let's talk about the dooku fight

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Because this is actually insane

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They're getting through

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They get into a room

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_02]: They just get into a room by the way

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean okay no there's some business with like an elevator shaft

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: They go up they go down

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_02]: R2's like

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: There's some Magna guards

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But once they get to the room

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: The room is just fucking empty

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Empty room

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine sitting in a chair with

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Like something bound to his hand

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You know he's he's tied to the chair

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But he seems weirdly calm

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: He does I mean you know

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh thank you so much for showing it

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you know

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So they come up and they're like talking to him

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh yeah I feel like he has a couple interesting lines

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh he's basically like

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Watch out he's a Sith Lord

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And Obi-Wan's like

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Before dooku shows up

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_00]: There was like an exchange that I'm forgetting

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That I thought was kind of interesting at the time

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But whatever we'll talk about when we watch the movie

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking nine more times

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Um uh and then he's very calm

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes oh no look a Sith Lord

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Turn around dooku's there

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Dooku's there he does this embarrassing CGI jump

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Down okay

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the third Yoda jump that has happened so far in this movie

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's crazy

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about how the Yoda jumping around thing

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Was like the moment where Attack of the Clone is just totally breaking

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Uncanny Valley like we said with JD

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Morgan Evans, former guest, referred to him as being like flubber

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He said Yoda just turns into flubber

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just flubber

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_00]: There like Gord Morgan there

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_00]: There are three flubber jumps in the first 22 minutes

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You mean like with the elevator and all that stuff

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan does a flubber jump

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah no he does

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan does a total flubber jump

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Where he suddenly just becomes a cartoon rag doll

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Then R2 doesn't flubber jump

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: No question does a flubber jump

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Lee

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Lee and we talked about how like oh clearly there's some doubles in this

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's an old man

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he's old

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's done pretty seamlessly in clones

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: It's better they figured it out

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: They choreographed it smarter I think

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: So they had to do that less

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're doing wide shots

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They're doing wide shots

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And obviously he's bouncing off of an unreal thing anyway

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So the unreal thing can bounce

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And also his fighting style was very classical

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yoda's jumping around but he's staying there and sort of just fencing

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right exactly

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got his arms outstretched

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He's very brave

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_02]: This one he's showing off for a minute when he does this summer salt

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You know he's faked the entire time

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because his head is barely connected to his body

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He does a summer salt just to show up

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And then let

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He could have walked down the fucking stairs or just jumped straight down

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead he has a fucking flip

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's doing crazy motions

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He knocks out Obi-Wan

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_02]: No I'm sorry before he knocks out Obi-Wan

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I really want to highlight Obi-Wan's line of

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry Scythlords

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Ah speciality

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What's Scythlords?

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: All right Obi-Wan killed one Scythlord

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: One time

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: One time

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And too late

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And then Dukku chopped off one of them's arm and you know put a fucking you know boiler on the other one

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was a draw at best

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Right so they thought

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know about Scythlords or our speciality

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They thought that the Scythlords were dead right

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: At the beginning of Fentimus they think Scythlords no longer exist

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They kill one Scythlord after he kills

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan's best friend and mentor

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Very true he did kill someone forgot about that

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Kills him but like too late

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Right

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't kill Dukku

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Nope

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Let him get let some get away

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_00]: They still don't know who the actual Scythlord is

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sorry that's not your speciality

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_00]: No speciality is killing

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean maybe that George is trying to be ironic that he's saying it to the real Scythlords

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: No probably not

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_00]: No I think his speciality is battle droids which big whoop anyone could kill a fucking battle droid

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He could kill a lot of them

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I could fart on a battle droid at break in half

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway as you say they kind of chat with Dukku for a second where Dukku's like hand over those sabers

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Gentlemen we you know know don't want to make a mess and they're like ah fuck you we're gonna fight you

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he just drops like a staircase on Obi-Wan

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're fighting like crazy

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_02]: In like the shittiest CGI as well

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan's like pinned it looks it looks terrible

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's one line where he goes like this time. Let's fight two against one. Let's fight at the same time

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he said something like that. It's like yeah, right. Oh right smart. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's mature

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's basic fucking logic if you're two good guys

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But he didn't do it that time

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't go like you go first

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hanging back

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Dukku had lightning powers last time those are mysteriously

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Disappeared this time not sure why he could have saved his own life had he almost throws this fight it feels like yeah

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it really is pretty bad

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like hurry-carry because yeah, he and Anakin fight for a bit. Yeah

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He has this thing where Anakin's like my powers have doubled since I last and he's like twice the pride double the fall

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: How much later does more you take play? I like several years. Okay. I think so. Yeah

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Um actually I can try to find out they're watching the fight

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Palpatine is fucking loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just like get him

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Because good anakin good. Yeah, and he's like he's just going like oh interested like he's fucking having a ball

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. He's playing both teams

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just enjoying the fight

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Then

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_00]: What happens it's been three years just let you know since the three-year war

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Anakin anakin chops off in a kind of a weird fluid move chops off Dukku's hands both of them

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's sort of like really. Yeah, it's

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty it's pretty nuts pretty

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Dukku falls to his knees

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, anakin catches his blade like with ease and just like gives him the old sort of you know puts them to his neck

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got like chopsticks going

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got like a blade in each hand pointing the opposite direction. So he's got a blade against each side of his neck

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And dukkus just looks like a sad grandpa all of a sudden. He's just so upset

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He's so defeated and poppins like finish him now. He literally says kill him kill him

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like a command. It's not like he's like requesting it. He goes like anakin kill anakin good

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And anakin's like oh, I don't know if I should do that's not the jedi way god

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Anakin's getting really good

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And palpatine literally you would hope maybe that there be palpatine would really sort of try and sell this and be like

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you got to kill him. He'll come you know like he just said do it

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't there a moment to where he goes like remember what we talked about no

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He just says it might happen after he kills dooku

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a line in here that implies that they have been meeting and talking a lot

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They were supposed to know that yeah, the anakin's gotten very close with the emperor. I mean the chancellor right and it's like

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, they won't and um that should have been happening to you

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting dynamic. Maybe that should have been

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_00]: on screen

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The developing of their relationship how'd they go from zero to six at the nfn of mass?

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like i'm gonna keep an eye on you boy. No attack the clones. He does almost nothing

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Barely corresponds with anakin. We shall watch your career with great interest right right exactly right and then in this one

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_00]: he just

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Something everything good happened off screen anyway anakin chops up his head and he's immediately

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's so even keeled about it, right anakin. Yeah, he's like, I don't know if I should

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Palpatine's like you shouldn't he's like okay. I will

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Decapitates right head rolls gross. Yep. What the fuck is this movie?

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then anakin goes like I shouldn't done that

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like that was a bad idea. Yeah, it goes. That was a bad idea. Which by the way

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it wasn't yeah like kill the sith lords. They're magical wizards of dark evil

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't actually really get why it's supposed to be like no they should probably die

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They are impossible to imprison but he was like so right shoot lightning out of their hands for crying out loud

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So right with guilt about about the

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Slaughtering the jazz side of the test which was pretty horrifying. Let's not yeah

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_00]: No, great right, but he was very emotionally affected by this one. He's just like

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what that was a mistake. You know what?

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That was bad bad on me. Anyway, he frees palpatine and palpatine's like no, no, no, it was good. It was good

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know now this movie really is about how every character's

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_02]: internal logic radar is

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Broken yeah because palpatine is basically just like a serpent at this week's like yes

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, and then he's like palpatine's like we got to go forget obi one

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine's got a big foam finger that says sit on it

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan is literally lying peacefully with like a staircase kind of touching his ankle

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He looks beautiful

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's over he's dead and and like anakin's like don't worry about it like just like

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He's he says uh his fate will be our own. Yeah, right? So they take anika

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They take everyone but like why isn't anakin like hold up like

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me like I just like stormed this like whole starship

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I can pick up the stupid staircase for one second. Why are you pushing this? Yeah, because palpatine doesn't drop and he's like no

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_02]: there's no time

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And and grievous grievous gets away

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, there's a whole scene where grievous like steals their lightsabers and r2 and then r2 does this like decoy trick

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Where he like turns on all his devices at once

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they use that

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He has the magnifying glass coming out of the top of his hat

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_02]: They use that distraction to grab their lightsabers from grievous's cape pocket

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a lot of business with like the starship like

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It starts going down and then they level it off and they take control of the

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And they're trying to fucking bring it back

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It sucks

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Suck and it's it's so hard to fucking and yeah grievous escapes. I guess I don't know

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He gets in a ship or something

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So remember how we thought that the choice to

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Let grievous, sorry dooku get away at the end of clones was

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_00]: unfulfilling

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Narratively on a dramatic level

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfulfilling and then we're like it must because they're setting them up is the big bad and then he's like the intermediary

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Boss. Yeah, not even he's the first boss grievous is the intermediary boss

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how shitty dooku is in this movie the coughing robot with a cloak and snake eyes is the intermediary boss

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Grievous is dooku is on screen for three minutes. Yeah, and for two minutes and 54 seconds of those three minutes

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It is a

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cgi head on a cartoon rag doll. It's a flubber. He's a flubber. Christopher flubber lee right

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Um

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I would equate the first 22 minutes of this movie to

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I would

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Say it is like watching someone else play a video game

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That is a really good point because except like a bad video game

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Because like my roommate will watch me play the witcher three like wrapped with a tension

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's a video game with a strong narrative art

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying there like if you're watching someone play like a war game or a space battle game

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be fun if I was doing that

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe if I had staked in this because I was controlling it was trying to get through and it feels very mission-based like shoot this

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Get this hit the center. I got those droids. Yeah all that shit, right?

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Activate oil slick, right? They are like giving you video game commands like they're an NPC. Yeah hit c left

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The only time I could get engaged this movie was I went this would be fun to play

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I guess so yeah because to start in media res with this with so much fucking sound

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And fury and fury right just this white noise this cacophony of just fucking nonsense happening

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't care about these characters. We already haven't cared about them for two films

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You're dropping us in and not even giving us time to re-assimilate. You know like get our bearing

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just like the only way I would have staked this is if I was actually trying to make this shit happen

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: If I was trying to pilot the ship and instead you're just watching it and going like can can I get a turn or can we watch something together?

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's not fun for me to watch the other problem which we've talked about before

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Which recursed through all the films is that the jedi's it's like watching one of those like youtube speedrunners

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Who knows everything already and is really like committed and boring and focused

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: They walk into what seems like a crazy situation like yeah, don't worry about it. So I slice any way move next room

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's no fun. They're having no fun. There's douchebags in this movie. Like they're so cocky

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no struggle. We have so much to talk about. It's someone doing a speedrun of a video game

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie you're right

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's watching someone do a speedrun of a video game. That's not great

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And at the same time

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They do that and it's not great, but then senator palpatine is based out of chancellor is like

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm evil and they're like, oh hi chancellor. Nice to see you. Anyway, let's keep going

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: They're so stupid and let it be said mcdermot's killing it great from the we have a we're gonna have a lot to talk about with him

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We had a whole episode on them

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: No

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: No, he's so good. I love sin

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You wish the movie would rise to that level of fun, you know to that level of theatricality, but it doesn't yep

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this has been episode one of revenge of the podcast. Yeah, I guess we're done. Is there anything we miss?

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so. I mean, we'll rewatch it. Well, I'm sure we already forgot a ton of things

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But um, but you know, we don't see pad may we don't see some of our old faves like, you know in this first opening sequence

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, we're seeing pad may there's no like 3po

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, no dexter. There's no mace when do no mace when do

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no ellen sleazebagano. Uh, no no, I mean

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He comes back, right?

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we'll see why fucking set up that thread about him trying to go on the straight and narrow if we're not gonna see him turn out

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want like the end of a boyhood

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right where the guy with the migrant worker like like went to school and became your mother's a great woman

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I actually really like that scene even though people hate that scene in boyhood

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's that scene is so out of the blue. Yeah weird like, you know, because he's there just in a restaurant

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, hi remember me from like an hour ago

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You told me to go to school like while you were walking away like over your shoulder

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I went to school and I really appreciate that advice that you gave me and you're like, oh, yeah

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Nice job white lady. You told like, you know, the migrant worker to go to school

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: But um, but I like I think david earlick made this point to me, but I seized it and remembered it is like

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Boyhoods about like watching someone slowly develop and not really realizing it because you're with them all the time

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But this is like it's there's like a drastic development off screen

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like that and it's like yeah like time has passed like people circumstances change wildly. Yeah sometimes

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wish it was just a little racially. It's a it's a little it is. Yeah, but I like the idea of it. Yes, I do um

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Boyhoods a good movie. Yeah, what was I why was I creating it's a boy?

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you're talking about ellen sleaze back in oh

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we want him to come back and go like I don't know if you remember me

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode four is probably about that. I'm just assuming now. We're so stupid that there's an episode four

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, disney did buy the company. So I'm assuming they did that in order to make an episode maybe that's what it is

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably what we could probably look forward to an episode four from disney sometime in the next five or ten years

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean takes a long time for movies to get off the ground. Yeah

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, we'll be talking about this movie for a bunch of weeks and then after that

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know we'll go on to other movies because we'll have to wait for episode four to come out

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: We got some great guests coming up this season hate the bit

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we got some great guests. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Ben's looking at me with just scorn. You're being a real sleaze bagging out right now

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we got some great guests coming up david doesn't even know about them. They're gonna be fucking exciting surprises

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: They got tons of twitter followers and you can tell me who they are

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They'll push to the top of the charts tons of twitter followers. Let me take some guesses taylor swift

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that'd be amazing. What if taylor swift came on this podcast?

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? I've been thinking a lot lately. I think taylor swish would like me

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably I think she would think I was fun

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying she would like like me. Yeah, no go ahead although a boy can dream

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do I do think we'd hit it off

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And we'd shake it off

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: If you know what i'm saying, i think taylor swift and I would shake it off

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Ben took a turn off his phone. I know yeah, please rate review subscribe

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to other ucb network podcast so you're going through a breakup. Yeah, menage a tois with mirf and diana you tell it

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You're telling me to tell her that's the name of the other person. Okay, you tell it

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Um long form conversations long form. That's what I was thinking about

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, please yeah do do uh

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to all of those subscribe rate review. Don't be a fucking sith

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Five stars or nothing. That's great

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh and once again remember if you give us one star you are not allowed to listen anymore

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So or be a guest think through on that taylor

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Dear oh dear

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That is all I have to say on the matter. I look forward to watching the rest of this film

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Unlike with attack the clones where I loved the beginning of the movie and then

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Knew already that it didn't pay out. I'm going into this with the opposite opinion. I know you hate this movie

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I do I look at the first 22 minutes. I'm going who knows what happens in the back. We just dissed it for so long

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I've only seen the first 20 minutes. I don't know this movie is the worst of the star

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Impossible it's not impossible. In fact, it's very likely impossible. Yep

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Although I haven't like one thing that's happened on screen so far other than e mcdern's performance

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening. Mm-hmm. We'll be back next week with taylor swift

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Will we yeah, we'll be discussing sound mixing we'll be discussing

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor Swift is like a jd amado level savant when it comes to the technical aspects of sound

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: She's been in the music industry since she was 16 years old. You think I'm fucking joking. I'm not

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor Swift will be our guest next week. Talk about sound mixing. Great. Teach me a thing or two. Yeah, great

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: She knows where it's gonna be training center. Why do you think I'm bringing her in? Oh, I'm glad you're taking the hint

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've been realizing some old episodes ben. You haven't done some of the edits that we asked you to that's true

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: All those times I told you to edit out

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Mention of your father's financial problems. Yeah, I think fucking you added some in it feels like some episodes

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You dropped out. He does a great grip in he does a great grip in

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Taylor Swift will be coming here next week. Talk about

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Matthew woods sound mix on the film is sound editing on the film

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll give ben some helpful pointers and we'll try to hit it off. I look just as friends

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking for friends if you want something more. I don't know that's fine, but I just think we'd really get along

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have a lot in common great

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, thank you for listening and as always

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: shake out