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[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David Don't know what to say or to expect All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check I wonder how guys fit in They still seem to be trying to figure out

[00:00:41] They're still dressing like little boys, they're still playing video games But how in one generation have men gone from guys like Jack Nicholson and Harrison Ford to take Ben here? A dying breed Look and learn boys because if you ask me This is what podcast is

[00:00:59] What's the word? Cool You think she likes games? She's like a gamer? Someone else says that I believe Zach Roman says that Our divine says that And they added in the two lines from the other boys and somehow they misattributed that one to her

[00:01:19] Anyway, I'll complain to IMDB Hello everybody, my name is Griffin I'm David Sims This is Blank Check with Griffin and David They're doing their best to make their success early on in their career Given a series of Blank checks to make whatever crazy passion projects they want

[00:01:35] Sometimes those chicks clear, sometimes they bounce And sometimes they clear and Hollywood decides to for some reason stop letting them make movies anyway Sure, do you think that's what happened? I think a couple things happened Took her six years to make this movie

[00:01:49] And she has talked about how much of a fight it was coming off of a movie that made $100 million She was like, I could not get this movie made And she went through like four different casts and every time it was two A-list stars

[00:02:03] And she still couldn't get it made And she hasn't gotten a movie made since then No, that's three to four years If you follow her on Instagram as we do, she complains a lot Understandably Am I allowed to talk? Please, we want you to talk

[00:02:17] Yeah, I was noticing on her Wikipedia page But she did produce Home Again Yes, the Daughters' Home It felt very her, I felt like her stamp was on it We will talk about it next week, we include as a bonus episode Because it deals with her emotion

[00:02:31] Of a piece But her daughter hasn't gotten to make another movie yet Maybe she would be happy to continue to produce and help her daughter She did think about making her daughter's script, right? Wasn't that a thing that was floating or a different script?

[00:02:43] That she said she was going to direct has not been able to get financing Has not been able to set it up This movie cost half of what it's complicated cost Maybe that was part of it This was like her first budget cut movie

[00:02:55] I also hear that she went two months over schedule For this movie? It's complicated was so complicated Very complicated It was so long There were just a lot of moving pieces And I feel like this movie at least is very direct

[00:03:11] It's the intern and it's about the intern He's an intern at the company, he works for the boss The boss' life That's it, there's no bullshit It's complicated It's weirdly complicated for a movie with no plot There's no high-stakes I think this movie

[00:03:27] She's a little afraid of stakes She's afraid of stakes But this is one of the movies for me where it fully feels like a feature rather than a bug This movie is so... I agree It luxuriates in the lack of conflict For so much of it

[00:03:43] The big action sequence is deleting the email That's the big sort of tense set piece in the middle of the movie Is it an email? About this movie To her mom who sucks Her mom sucks the whole time It's a very recognizable voice

[00:03:57] The thing about this movie that makes me want to cry at several moments And I got so close to crying I was super foking Super foking Super foking choked up at six different points during watching this And sometimes it's literally just

[00:04:11] Recognizing that this is a movie about two people getting to know each other They're gonna be friends That's so simple and so human that it emotionally overwhelms me Now I'm overwhelmed Oh my god That's the sweetest thing in the world to make a movie about

[00:04:27] It's also a movie about how everyone's got lots of stories to tell You know, like, De Niro's a fountain Of stories It's also like the beginning of the movie kind of touches on This is dark, this is a dark way to process it

[00:04:41] But it kind of touches on that That montage from up Where it gets like, it's kind of bleak at first And then the movie starts to unfold And you're like, oh this is like a fun up movie if you will But like when it starts with De Niro

[00:04:55] Being like, I lost my wife I go to Starbucks every day I'm just kind of like watching the time pass Like my grandfather Is in that spot right now So when I watched like my grandmother died two years ago And like that is sort of how his

[00:05:10] He structures his days Right, he just needs sort of shit to do Yeah, and I just visited him So when I was watching this movie I was like Oh god It's a lot to process There's something that it's just a little depressing

[00:05:26] The like video camera with no one behind it And he set it up by himself To do the video message Like no one was like, let me help you You know, uncle or That was something that kind of I felt like in general

[00:05:38] I don't know if you guys agree with this But I thought that like My grandfather, he's 96 years old And he texts He totally understands how to use his computer He always has a new phone He doesn't have like a flip phone from

[00:05:54] Because he knows this is how to communicate with younger people Yeah, so I think all that stuff Where they're like, what's a USB cord That's one of the cornier lines I just wish that wasn't I don't want that stereotype to exist anymore

[00:06:06] That like you're too old to understand technology I thought of it USB connector was But you also set up that complicated camera To film yourself You've got this, DeNiro Was she like a USB connector? I don't know It's like a cord that connects one thing to another thing

[00:06:22] Like there's no conversation we had about a USB connector Yeah, it's not hard It's also weird, our guest is Jamie Leibow Amazing comedian, writer, actor Star of crashing The single above the title Star of crashing Wait, is there, I actually have no, is there a crashing season 3?

[00:06:38] There is, we just finished filming Oh that's awesome, very excited So this will be closer to coming out by the time this episode comes out Yeah, yeah, this is a little post around Thanksgiving Yeah, oh nice I remember I mean because we were talking before

[00:06:52] We both auditioned for this movie Everyone who even had Any sort of semblance of a relationship To the comedy world, seemingly auditioned For this movie We were talking about under 40 Who had ever taken a UCB class Was it New York and LA?

[00:07:08] Because I feel like it's a New York movie Is it drawing for the New York scene in particular? I auditioned in LA I also, it's interesting because it is a comedy But it's not such a comedy That's like only comedians could play these parts

[00:07:20] No, and a lot of those parts they ended up casting Like oh this is like a drama school kid You know, or these are like former teen stars Or like things like that There are only a couple comedians in the movie

[00:07:30] And I didn't think you would cast a comedian That wolf is in one scene and never reappears And I auditioned for that guy three times Along with five other characters Did they fire that character because he's such an idiot Because he asks Robert De Niro where he

[00:07:42] You know, he's gonna see himself in 10 years Do you think that's why we never see him again? I think so but it's really gets high billing Pretty high billing No, I like remember The casting process for this went on for months They kept on pushing back

[00:07:56] The start of filming Which is one of the things that cost this movie to go over budget And over schedule Because it was like, she kept on being like I can't start filming, I haven't found my boys yet And they pushed back another like six weeks

[00:08:08] And there are like 12 boys in this movie It means a boy heavy movie I kept on getting called in This time it's these two characters Now you're meeting with this person Now you're meeting with this person Interesting I met with her once

[00:08:24] You told this story like three years ago It needs a read visit This is the intern episode So I kept on, I'd go in and they'd be like Read these two characters and I do the two

[00:08:34] And then they'd be like, you want to go back out and read this one And then they call me in and then they ask me All this stuff and it was finally like Okay, here's the Nancy day And I get to the waiting room

[00:08:44] And the waiting room is the entire current cast of Saturday Night Live and me They're all in there? You told me it was like Joest Joest, 80 Bryant I think Vanessa Bayer was in there I think Cecily Strong was in there Right, literally like Don Pardo was in there

[00:09:00] I think Cecily was in there So like Don Pardo was introducing them as they went into the room There might have been one other person in the room Who was on Saturday Night Live And even like the other people were like

[00:09:10] Oh, I know you're a writer on Saturday Night Live You know, you're a really good actor Who's also a writer on this show Like everyone there was just like And I looked at the sign and sheet and the people before me

[00:09:20] And all of this and I was just like And I remember them saying Like When I was Eavesdropping in on the production office Which was like right next door to the audition waiting room Cause this wasn't in a casting office

[00:09:34] This was here's the pre-production office for the intern Here's her office in the back You're in the waiting room And all the like, you know, sweater designers Or like running around with sample swatches That's also such a mind fuck

[00:09:46] Cause it's like you're starting to see the movie being made You know what it looked like It's already part of the world And it's like but you're not really part of the world Cause you're not cast so yeah It's a lot to experience at an audition

[00:09:58] They've let you in too early to the right Through the veil So they call me in And the casting director who's a guy I'm friendly with Who I've gone in for a bunch of times Do you know what role it was for at this point?

[00:10:10] It sounds like all of them It was kind of all of them I think I'd accept DeNiro He was in there too DeNiro Nancy was not satisfied For the final one, the scene I remember doing in front of her Was the Beyonce I don't know where to wear

[00:10:26] scene But I don't remember if I read multiple scenes In front of her at that point or if they said Let's focus in on this one or whatever it was They kept on switching it around I think there were other characters that even got cut out

[00:10:38] But Griffin come this way Leads me through The pre-production offices And it felt like a scene from the intern That was really proud of what it was Here's all the hubba A lot of desks and craziness Overwhelmed and he's just saying stuff to me

[00:10:54] And he's like Griffin I really hope you kill it We're really rooting for you Nancy's had a really hard time finding funny people She said she can't find anyone funny in New York Totally psyched me out And then went by the way she's not a shaker

[00:11:06] And I said what? And the door opened That's like in the movie What was the thing in the movie that she does Blinker It was like Nancy's having a really hard time She doesn't think anyone's funny She's wondering why she can't find funny people in New York

[00:11:22] She's not a shaker here you go She looks like Nancy Meyers She looks like a Nancy Meyers Nancy Meyers is like an automotopia When you hear that you know exactly what There's an image to this concert Nancy Meyers It sounds like something that would

[00:11:38] Be one of the settings on a white noise machine She's just like a pashmina Of a woman Exactly You're seeing Ascension Sweater It took me a second to parse out What he's saying is She doesn't like it when people shake her hand Right She's not a shaker

[00:12:00] I sometimes Shake It's not like I can't function if I haven't shook It's not like part of your identity But suddenly I was like I shake her Oh no Those militant Quakers They call the shakers Maybe she's just saying that Nancy Meyers is actually A Hasidic Jewish man

[00:12:22] Who won't shake it I couldn't fucking figure it out And I just walked in there and was immediately Completely overwhelmed by the situation Did she say hi nice to meet Was there warmth? She was like very She was kind of Miranda Priestly Not to equate the two

[00:12:40] But it was that sort of like You want her to be Jules Austin She didn't seem mean But she was very like She was sort of go I'm the samples for the fall line I hope I like this If not, I'm gonna be honest

[00:12:56] The only note I remember for giving me was to slow down Sure A note I get a lot I feel like every comedian gets that note Constantly Like relax in the discomfort We just have to like keep going Hit it Exactly And you don't abide silence

[00:13:16] Right and then I think she was like Okay And I left And I was like Drew Tarver my friend Very fun comedian and actor Was like hey can I stay on your couch in New York And it was because he had gotten called in

[00:13:32] To read for the same four parts Of the play because they've She's like building a time machine To the golden age of Hollywood She has written off New York for any funny Actors under 35 But this is And we've talked about this week to week

[00:13:48] This is her reputation as a very meticulous filmmaker Who wants everything to be exactly as she imagined it I've read this as well She's the Kubrick of rom-coms So you auditioned for this movie Yes I did I auditioned for the role of Becky And that was

[00:14:04] As far as I know I think that was the only Girl comedy role Did you know anyone else? A couple lines Yeah I feel like that was kind of the main one I feel like I went through so many rounds To be the Nat Wolfe character

[00:14:18] That I wouldn't be surprised if like Eddie Bryant was auditioning for the person Who's like Ben's the one who cleaned up You know like one line roles Not Ben Hosley Like only one of those female Is good But I also wouldn't be surprised if she auditioned

[00:14:34] Super over qualified people for all the day player parts Sure People want to be in these movies I don't know the actress who plays the assistant At all She's really good She's pretty good She stressed out She was stressed out

[00:14:52] That was actually not to like take it away From the audition process But that was something that was kind of confusing The main character and Hathaway's character Was like pretty reasonable For a boss She was running the company She was pretty pleasant She wanted stuff done on time

[00:15:10] But other than that she wasn't like Becky get in here Becky that's your own anxiety She's like I went to Penn I worked so hard And you're like no one's mad at you Becky No one is mad No one even really talks to each other

[00:15:28] Which is my favorite Julius has a little passive aggressive In moments She owns up to it That's the thing She's a little micromanagey This is the worst I could say about her She's not a Miranda Priestly But Becky was acting as if her boss Was Miranda Priestly

[00:15:48] I love that this movie That it's Anne Hathaway's the boss now But she's not doing the Miranda Priestly There was also a part where A classic Becky moment It was when she was first bringing Ben Into Jules's office For them to meet for the first time

[00:16:04] And she goes you have to be there Promptly at three She has another meeting at four She has a full fucking hour For the intern do you remember that Yeah wait wait Then they send an email later that says 255 For meetings at three

[00:16:20] They only give you five minutes Maybe I misunderstood You have to be there at three She has another meeting at four Did I mishear that? I don't remember her saying that a lot I remember seeing the text And the email he opens up Where it says 255

[00:16:38] Maybe that's a correction Call or something Did I hear that right? Then she doesn't bring him in I just remember being like Becky That's actually a really long amount of time Anyways I might be wrong so don't vote me Cut all of this out Keep it in

[00:16:56] It's a four part episode Hey David we're two frowns True one two That's our competitive advantage but there are some new kids on the block Okay Wait they're horning in? They're changing the game because there are three of them Oh that's fine

[00:17:12] Something we never considered now I don't feel competitive But God I'm impressed by the technological breakthrough It's true they are pioneers I mean two friends We all know competitive advantage We're doing a great job over here Three friends hadn't considered it Now I assume these are all neophytes

[00:17:28] To the podcast and Roland look at these names It's on your wolf the podcast Scott Ockerman Lauren LaCus Lauren Lapkus I think you're trying to say there And then Paul F. Tumpkins There's a period there So I think it's two separate sentences Oh you took a pause

[00:17:47] There's three funny people Paul, Lauren and Scott You might know them from say Comedy Bang Bang Or Spontanea Nation Or Raised by TV They are all on separate podcasts Maybe they'll cross over and guest with each other You know those podcasts can be bitty

[00:18:01] There could be a lot of characters That's not what this show is okay The best thing about three of them is it's really simple It's just three funny people hanging out It's actually it's so much fun I'm a long time fan of these guys

[00:18:13] And you're listening to them just like be regular people You're just gonna be sharing weird childhood stories Cracking up It's really great and it used to be behind a paywall And now you can hear it Anywhere for free Every Thursday on your podcast

[00:18:27] Freedom they should call it freedom Because it's free now Sure but initially it wasn't Correct Three lovely people One of whom is going to be a guest Very soon natural If you listen to the three of them you'll find out Hopefully we'll get the other two eventually

[00:18:45] Actually it's a good point let's get them right now No all three of them We know all freedom I don't know But yeah, freedom Listen to freedom now make sure you subscribe to catch more episodes Every Thursday The moment I love is when Ben

[00:19:01] Like gets asked to move his desk We're jumping all over the movie here But when he gets asked to move his desk next Next to Becky's and she's like Freaking the fuck out There's not space Becky just needs whatever But I also love that Ben extends his

[00:19:19] Clarabel golden angel Lord of light powers To like I'm going to fix Becky as well You know and I think the movie at that moment Acknowledges like this isn't a jewels problem Ben can help Make jewels make her feel more comfortable Yeah But he's got to fix Becky

[00:19:37] He does have to nudge jewels Like you know give her a compliment But he also like gets out of divine with the handkerchief Like I love this notion that he's sort of like This Paddington figure who like fixes The whole town Everyone starts being happier

[00:19:51] They all start treating each other better Yeah No the Becky character is interesting But I also think it really hit me Watching it this time I think especially after we've been Living in Nancy for the last couple months Talking about her a lot

[00:20:07] And knowing that we were going to do this Many series I kept on when I've been working On jobs like pumping Crew stories Because she films a lot of movies in New York I would talk to a lot of crew guys Who worked on Nancy movies

[00:20:21] Who are like hey take so fucking hour To shoot you know What's so hard about lighting A sweater you know all this sort of stuff But I try to parse like okay what are the actual Details add to this You did a little overtime

[00:20:35] But I think this character is Like Her trying to reckon with How exacting she is in her work And wondering if people view her As a tyrant You know like the fact that she's not a difficult boss That she's someone who cares about this so deeply

[00:20:51] And is so detail oriented And can't like And one thing I love about this I really do like this movie a lot Early on is the scene where Rannell's Is like and Rannell's, I don't know how to pronounce it Rannell's Is like tells her the news

[00:21:07] Of like they want you to hire a CEO And then it starts crying And not in a way where she's like absurdly Like she's just so wounded by the idea Of like am I not doing a good job Here like look at the business

[00:21:19] Like is this not good I think that's what's super telling About this being her reckoning with Cause I also think you go I mean so you know she writes all these Very successful comedies A good Disney family film that makes money Then she makes this fucking Massive success

[00:21:37] Right and then she gets to keep on Going on making these personal films of big budgets With big movie stars and they pretty much All do really well And then after it's complicated There's this thing cause what it's complicated It's 09 and that's the same year

[00:21:51] God it was that long ago I remember seeing that in theaters And that's the same year On Christmas such a waste of time You gotta spend Christmas with Nancy That's the same year as the proposal Right The proposal is 09 too Isn't it yeah I'm pretty sure it is

[00:22:07] Yeah cause there was There's this moment where I was like Oh this is an industry sea change moment Where the proposal made $160 million Like another 160 Worldwide was like a massive success One of the biggest romantic comedies in years The writers Pitched a sequel to Disney

[00:22:25] With the cast and the director attached And Disney was like we're not interested And they were like What this was a massive hit for you And Disney said it's not enough of a profit maker Right cause it doesn't do well enough

[00:22:37] Overseas and all that is that the idea But it did well overseas but for them they're like Well if we make movies that make a billion dollars Then why make a movie that makes 300 million dollars Even if it makes 200 million dollars profit They're like that's too small

[00:22:49] A profit for us And that's like suddenly like romantic comedies Are like I don't know is it like worth it It's definitely worth it But I think they start writing off the genre And going like even at the top of the pyramid

[00:23:01] We're not gonna make as much money This isn't really even a romantic comedy At all It's just a workplace comedy It's just a movie Yeah it's a movie I guess romance is rekindled at the end That's the worst part of it No it's not a rom-com at all

[00:23:19] It's like a human dramedy But I think she's like fuck She's not a rom-com anymore It's like easy listening It is totally easy listening Yeah it's just like a good Phil Collins B side Yeah But she I think in 2011 or 2012 Sets this movie up With Tina Fey

[00:23:39] And Michael Cain Wait sorry what year is this? 2012 And then Paramount shuts it down because they said the budget was ballooning Sure The actors schedules were not lining up It's not worth it and they dropped it And she said okay I'm gonna package the whole movie together

[00:23:57] And then shop it to a studio Once I have the cast attached so it's like take it or leave it This is what it is, this is the budget And she goes to them with Reese Weatherspoon And Robert De Niro Warner Brothers buys it

[00:24:09] Then Reese Weatherspoon drops out Then the movie goes into like turmoil again They're not sure if they're gonna make it And it's like oh if they don't get De Niro now Then they're gonna have to wait a year in this and that

[00:24:19] And like Hathaway Swoop sent the last minute They cut the budget a bunch And she like gets to make the movie But she's talked a lot about like I was surprised By how much of an uphill battle it was

[00:24:29] After I made a movie that was an unqualified success Right And it kind of just felt like the industry didn't want My type of movies anymore Didn't matter if I was doing them well If they were profitable, that wasn't the profit they wanted

[00:24:41] That wasn't the genre they cared about Doesn't translate overseas Is never gonna make a billion dollars So I feel like in the time In between those movies she's also going like Was I like too difficult Like was I too demanding Did I take too long

[00:24:57] Which is like this character reckoning With the idea of like should I enjoy my life more Like But I want everything to be right Like I want to be able to look at this product And feel like I did it well

[00:25:09] Yeah you want to show how to put the tissue paper on And people were happy with the end result Like it's not just about my ego It's like she wants to see the photo of the bridesmaids At the end of the movie

[00:25:19] And know that they got the dresses they wanted And I like that it's just a photo We don't get some call from a bride That got five minutes seen as if Like you saved my wedding It's just a little photo It's a little image

[00:25:33] The story I heard from a teamster Where he was like You're inside scoop Vinny The sandwich guy Who is this guy And they're so open They just say all the names And they've worked on like any kind of movie You always need them

[00:25:51] And the only director they like is Steven Soderbergh Because he gets stuff done so fucking quick Steven Soderbergh's 17 pages you do in two minutes I think you talk to any Like if they voted for the Oscars Like every year Unsaid, best picture Best director

[00:26:07] He pays you over time out of his pocket You know Those are the stories But with her it's like the opposite of that Now I still feel like with guys like Fincher Even though it takes a while And he is detail obsessed

[00:26:21] They're like yeah but he's like such a perfection That's the difference And when I heard they were like what's taking so long And the story he told me was like They were so far over schedule They were so over Everyone was like turning down jobs that they thought

[00:26:35] They were going to be able to move on to Which is scary if it's like you got Work lined up You might not get something for two months Right But so they were like we need to Get a second unit crew To do all the pickup stuff

[00:26:51] So that we get this done She can't be overseeing every single shot And that she sent her assistant to the set With her iPad so she could Face time and oversee everything And the Warner Brothers executives were like trying to Like it was a conditional

[00:27:05] You can't be on set because then it won't get done And they were trying to kick out the kid with the Face time iPad And she was like I can't let there be Insert shots in my movie that don't fit My worldview

[00:27:17] You know? Like I want this movie I give it to her I tip my cap because I don't Whatever, like if I like David Fincher I like this too because everything in this movie never feels Fakie, like every little desales That kitchen is insane

[00:27:31] And also like you know Not to timestamp this but the day we're recording Is the day after The synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh Oh great, yeah sure let's I was like full fucking anxiety meltdown Yesterday, like losing my mind And I put this movie on and it like

[00:27:47] 100% worked for me Like I felt better about humanity It's interesting too because like I mean I think that the script And sort of the tone she's always trying to achieve It's very sort of like light And dreamy and you know escapist In some ways but also Oh god

[00:28:05] I completely forgot what I was going to say Guys, I hate when that happens There's an intern It'll come back anyways It's sort of like you got Robert DeNiro right He's like this whole guy lives in Park Slope And he's like gonna be an intern

[00:28:19] Brooklyn is whole life Oh I remember what I was going to say I knew that telling you the very big premise of the movie I mean it is like her The way she dresses as set is another character Yes And she's like a hero for it

[00:28:33] So I feel like she has to deliver on that front She has to be meticulous Almost in the same way like Wes Anderson is known For the way he like Yeah, it's true Wes Anderson did some like handheld cheeky hand with her

[00:28:45] Yeah, handed it off to somebody else You'd be like wait what? That's his whole thing It's really the same for her It's like the pillows and the coffee table books And you know the white wall Everything about it

[00:28:59] Where like if you went to a spa and there was a shitty picture Hanging up on the wall You'd be like this kind of ruins it for me The music has to be right The paneling has to be right

[00:29:09] Everyone working has to have the right tone of voice That's really true I think that the look of her movies Are just as important as anything else Like you're kind of counting on it I agree The big criticism thrown at her Is like the movies don't have conflict

[00:29:25] And they're all about quote unquote White rich people probably They're not just about white rich people There is no diversity This was the whitest This one really hurts Because this is set in Brooklyn And there are so many people In this movie There's like 18 roles

[00:29:45] There are like six lines of peace You can fucking sprinkle A little more diversity in this movie In a callous way Like you can do it in a way that would make me wince But it would be better than like Not doing it at all It's really strange

[00:30:01] You look at the boy interns and you're like It kind of sucks that it's just like three white guys Who sort of have similar looks I don't even fucking know And their personalities are kind of the same Yes, they're not even anything No, they're children

[00:30:15] They're just some guys Because I don't even care One branch of this movie is what you're saying Is that Nancy Reckoning with Like masculinity In millennials and how it's like God Which almost feels to me like Her maybe going like I don't know

[00:30:31] Maybe I put some Apatow stuff in it It'll be more bankable, like I'll make it like this It's watching the Apatow movies and being like What is appealing about these men That should tuck in their shirts So every boy in this movie is like a dumb

[00:30:43] The boy blob And maybe that's also to kind of like Showcase a contrast between like the main character Who's this woman who has her shit together And kind of like doofus, plaid wearing I just think that stuff is very broad Like all the De Niro stuff

[00:30:57] And the Hathaway stuff for me Feel so specific And they're so fully realized As characters, not just in the performances But the writing and what their struggles are And all of that And then the boy stuff feel like here a couple silly boys And it gets really hijinked

[00:31:13] See the fucking laptop scene is like It's worth it for the moment where De Niro goes like I'm gonna break into her house and steal the laptop But once you get to that like set piece We whack her And we get the laptop Yeah, cause like anytime it's

[00:31:27] De Niro and Hathaway talking in this movie I'm like this is a masterpiece Also the whole first half ever You're like just be friends Like you just wanted to be friends Don't you see how nice he is in And she's fine, she's pleasant

[00:31:41] Again, there's never a lot of No, there's never a lot of conflict No one is a bitch on wheels I had a quick question about what women want Is Nancy Meyers involved in what Men want, which is coming out I think she gets a token producer Credit maybe

[00:31:57] I mean I think she may be someone Posted today She got added to the IMDB page as a director But Adam Shankman is straight It now says directed by Nancy Meyers Comma Adam Shankman I think that's total bullshit Pete Davidson is in it Next Greenfield Shaquille O'Neal

[00:32:17] Who else is in it It's gonna have a good people Erika by do is in it I'm just looking at Mark Cuban Then it's definitely not a Nancy Meyers movie No way to diverse The other one She didn't write that movie She didn't write what we don't know

[00:32:37] It's the one she didn't write The other IMDB thing I came across in the last day Was some jokester Some Richard T Joker Added IMDB That Academy Award nominee Michael Mann director of Heat Is one of the I don't know what you're talking about

[00:32:57] Why am I forgetting the name of it The class they do in the park The Tai Chi guys And I literally framed by framed Both Tai Chi sequences to see if anyone was Michael Mann And it's not I feel like some jokesters

[00:33:11] I'm looking around Nancy Meyers IMDB pages Don't like that This is the thing I was gonna say that's crazy About the three assistant boys Oh yes The one who both of you were like Who is that guy, where did he come from Is Nancy Meyers real life

[00:33:29] Former personal assistant Is that the third guy The guy wears the The blouse Was her real life personal assistant You look at the IMDB profile It's him being personal assistant to a bunch of different people Writers assistants in writer's rooms Non-actor Wanted to be a writer director

[00:33:49] Just completed his own debut film as a writer director Good for him But there was a Hollywood report article When he got cast that was like finally The movie can film Production kept on getting delayed because she couldn't fill in this missing piece

[00:34:01] She had seen guys up to 10 times And then she finally just decided to hire Her real personal assistant Because that's clearly who she had in mind And still made him audition five times That's... And he's non-actor But it's just like she was like, well he's like

[00:34:17] He's like that type And then finally just decided to make it that guy Yeah and why did she need four of them Or however many there were They're the same guy They're all men Weirdly not a lot of women working at this company It is I don't know

[00:34:35] It would be more effective if it was one guy who he helped rather than like You can't dress You don't know where to live It didn't need to be a team of guys, one guy would have been fine DeNiro needs his little rat pack In this movie

[00:34:49] Everyone loves DeNiro in this movie Well that's the thing I love about this movie Is that DeNiro's character is like such a nerd Because we've talked about how much Nancy Meyers Kind of idolizes The appealing creep The sort of Nicholson Mel Gibson The kind of like

[00:35:07] There's something about him And this is the opposite of that Well because she likes to She likes to have the woman Sort of like transform them To have the female lead Sort of like turn them from pieces of Shit to like less pieces Of less shit

[00:35:25] You keep that edge and that like juice And that like charisma But you give him like a conscience And he's just like a really He's a rock solid guy There's really no transformation Women are throwing themselves Linda Lavin wants to make him some goddamn lasagna

[00:35:41] She will pay him To have sex with her Fiona gave him an erection in the office That shit can kind of go fuck itself I don't know if I needed the dirty Grandpa scene with the others It's weird, it was so unnecessary

[00:35:55] A couple of times she does shit like that Like the USB thing And then he like I was happy Every time they avoided one of those things Me too, it felt like it was off tone Like when he's trying to Like console Adam Devine about Becky

[00:36:09] And he's like have you talked to her And he's like a little bit and he's like I don't mean tweeting, have you really talked to her And you're like okay so he knows what tweeting is Of course he's a man of the world

[00:36:19] But then it's like he doesn't know how to turn a laptop on He gets a boner anytime a woman touches him For some reason The shit top thing I'll forgive The boner thing can literally fuck off Well it was also The boner thing Here's the thing though

[00:36:35] We could have had the boner scene Without two Co-workers on either side of him Looking at his dick Seven reaction shots Literally nudging each other Like look, Robert De Niro's dick is hard It is weird that the score Then goes like boing

[00:36:53] Oh my god I didn't even notice that I cannot handle it I can't It feels like some little Oh I thought there was Like a score thing that you noticed It's not impossible that there be a twang I'm very gullible and that does feel fitting

[00:37:09] I would not put it past this movie to have that It's not a boyoyoy But like some kind of Something happening in the score The music was pretty like It was very 80s It did not feel like a current movie There's way too much music in this movie

[00:37:27] The movie gets better when they Kind of take the foot off the gas a little bit Yeah And the scene slowed down and becomes these conversations Like yeah, the boner thing is like Crazy and uh Alright we can move past it I just remember like

[00:37:43] Because when I was auditioning When you're auditioning through the script They made you look at his boner And they'll go look You're getting him here every day to read With every kid He doesn't even have dialogue What are you gonna do? Neither of us can do it

[00:38:01] I just want it But I was so living in like This is my 8th audition for this movie I'm reading these same couple of shitty scenes Where DeNiro tells you you're dressing poorly And then gets a boner or whatever I was so

[00:38:15] So you weren't even hyped up for the movie I was so dreading this movie I was so excited I was like I can't even deal with this fucking thing Skipped it when it came out And then I kept on hearing people

[00:38:29] Like Quint Tarantino said it was one of his favorite movies of that year And he was like I think it's one of the best performances DeNiro's given in the last decade I think that should have won an Oscar for best screenplay He is very good

[00:38:39] It's a good movie I reviewed it for the Atlantic I said it was good Mark Marin kept on fucking talking about it He'd be like have you seen that intern thing DeNiro was so dialed in in that movie Whenever he'd have an actor on the show

[00:38:53] He'd be like DeNiro's still good Have you seen the intern? I guess I got to see this fucking thing And I watched it on a plane And I got off the plane Immediately texted Romley My sister who lives in Nancy Meyers movie

[00:39:07] And I was just like Romley have you seen the fucking intern? And she was like yeah why And I was like that movie is kind of a masterpiece And she was like what about all the shit And I was like I don't care about any of that

[00:39:17] Like this is one of the only films I've ever seen That has been a totally a romantic relationship Between a man and a woman who are not relatives I know And it's just about two people becoming friends And it's like them talking to each other about their problems

[00:39:29] Right But then there's this side plot In which she's married to a weasel A human weasel We don't see the prologue in which a weasel Was transformed into a human No Or when she decides to fall in love with him It's the one piece of magical realism

[00:39:47] In this movie Is a living weasel Weasel gains any instants and grows some orange facial hair That's my only bit That's what sticks in my crop He's like a little bearded gopher In this movie Yeah he's tall He's a tall bearded gopher But he feels little

[00:40:07] He feels kind of teeny I feel like if I just went like that He feels like He's like soft Like the clay that he molded with his daughter in this movie The problem is the character is kind of supposed to be a piece of shit

[00:40:19] But you're ultimately supposed to That's okay What you're about to touch on is what I need to understand That's where I think the movie kind of falls apart Is he What are we supposed to feel towards him You think likeable? I think How could you like him

[00:40:37] Here's what I think What do you think her vision was That final speech is Jeremah Guire interrupting the women's group Stop Winning the audience You know what this guy's fucked up But Jeremah Guire is likeable In the movie Tom Cruise Master of the movie

[00:40:59] Jeremah Guire's not about a guy who cheats on his wife Otherwise doesn't really do anything In the movie just sits in a kitchen He's not giving us anything This is complicated to talk about Cause I think Oh my god It feels complicated to talk about

[00:41:15] Because also not only is he sort of like He's not Yeah, he's not likeable He feels very inauthentic And then he's also complaining about how he's tired a lot And I think that the role Of a working mother Is probably the most exhausting job Of all time

[00:41:33] Whereas they live in paradise And her is adorable Adorable and lovely And easy Very sophisticated Not like a daddy She's like daddy can I have a cook She's so easy Why is this guy so fucking tired His wife works so hard

[00:41:53] And Anna Hathaway is still dropping the kid off the school And she's still dropping the kid off the school With the parenting stuff Absolutely this guy is like a loser He's a fucking loser Huge loser He is the definition of a loser

[00:42:07] He can't handle that his wife has a job That seems to be the only conflict Is that his wife has a job It weighs on him existentially She's busy If my wife decided to go Found a fucking company That grew in 18 months She's 200 employees

[00:42:25] Fucking suck your own dick You own a fucking house stone You own a house stone He's the fucking man he says no He was like I'm tired Let's do it tomorrow You're tired She just got home from running a company You're married to Anna Hathaway You have everything

[00:42:45] God and he's got But here's the thing And I was saying this to you off mic Before we got in here Late in the movie when Late in the movie when She's crying over like should I leave him He would just get remarried

[00:43:01] Right away and maybe I never would And I was like fuck she's probably right She's like the you know she's intimidating And he's just this doofus that's sealed Just like you know all around the street To fork beer like a piece of garbage

[00:43:13] And someone will just pick him up They'll be like give him He's a daddy We have to circle back around to that Cause that's the scene where it becomes like a masterpiece He's just like a ball of flannel Just like sitting on his sidewalk Like him

[00:43:29] Look I don't you know We were talking before recording about how to approach this Right? We both we're actors We get paid to act on Things it never feels great To like just dunk on anybody But I will say in the most diplomatic

[00:43:45] Way I can that this performance Has the insincerity of a kid Forced to apologize You mean at the end Like someone told him like go in there Tell him you're sorry I feel like I lost you Don't leave me please Right and the problem is

[00:44:03] You're like is that supposed to be A quality of the character Or is it just as As I sort of feel Watching it that perhaps this guy Who's like a broy comedy guy Who writes his own stuff Is a little embarrassed to be like Vulnerable

[00:44:21] The husband in a Nancy Meyers movie Adam Devine gets to play like the funny comic relief character He seems a little embarrassed To have to be in this kind of movie Playing this type of part Where he doesn't get to be like Goofy

[00:44:33] What I don't understand though is Why couldn't he have been Goofy and lovable And zany That could be built into Maybe something that she's attracted to But also feels like his life is a little too simple And hers is really complicated That feels like a real relationship

[00:44:51] He's gonna be walking in there and it's like Right he's having fun with the kid They're like a little pair And they're like you know being Goofy And she's missing out on it But also maybe a little resentful Like oh he gets to be like Mr. Fun Guy

[00:45:05] And I'm like pulling my weight For the family, I mean that to me I feel like you could easily build comedy into that role This character should be Paul Rudd knocked up 100% Where she resents the fact that he gets to be like Goofball

[00:45:19] Which is why that movie is good Exactly You love him And he's fucking hot He's infliggo And they're both mutually Leslie Mann also is like Nightmarish quote unquote at times But also lovable And so relatable And sexy She has where you think you're not mean

[00:45:43] Because you don't yell Beautiful That's incredible What this relationship should be But the problem is that like He not only doesn't have chemistry with her He not only seems like he's embarrassed to be in the movie And can't conjure up any emotion other than tired

[00:45:59] Which he doesn't even do with full commitment That's a thing He's like well I said it He also has no chemistry With the daughter Which is a problem Because if he was so good with the kid You could forgive a lot where you're like

[00:46:15] And he said D'Niro walks into this gorgeous house This gorgeous kitchen D'Niro the kid is adorable And he's like I'm tired There's that one scene even where he has to say how good the Yankees are And even that he doesn't nail

[00:46:27] He can't even banter about the Yankees with D'Niro And that's the Kobayashi Maru of this movie Is that It is, no because I love this film as the sort of like Two people just get to know each other

[00:46:39] Here are two people at very different stages of their life Here's like Robert D'Niro Who like lived a very good conventional life Very happily In a very sort of like contained By the book way Never accomplishing anything that was like humongous

[00:46:53] Although he still somehow was able to buy an incredible brownstone But he's also of the Grateful era Which is the biggest, I think that's the biggest thing he brings to the table Is like oh I, like you used to just Be satisfied And no one's satisfied anymore

[00:47:07] Like I think a lot about like my grandfather Right? And he was like He was like A guy who like wanted to be in show business And was like First generation Hungarian immigrant And he had a job Like a delivery boy or something

[00:47:25] And like he told me this Like a month before he died And I was like oh my whole life makes sense now But he was like Supposed to deliver something to the Paramount offices in New York Where the Hard Rock Cafe is now

[00:47:37] And like someone hadn't showed up That day and in like a fucking Rick the intern turn of events They let him be the assistant For this woman at Paramount And he was getting his foot in He was like I always wanted to be in show business

[00:47:51] And then his father died And his family didn't have insurance And he was like oh fuck I need to learn insurance so I can Take care of my mom And our siblings And then he became an insurance man

[00:48:05] And he did that for us of his life and he never liked it He never asked for money and he had kids But he just like ended up his whole career Being like well I didn't have much I couldn't pursue this other thing

[00:48:13] What do you say you do the job that you're supposed to do I make a phone book for like 80 years What I provide for my family In the same factory that is now Incredible I mean that to me was an unnecessary Layer but it was cute

[00:48:27] It was cute I like that he's been holding that back Like he doesn't mention it to anyone He's a little embarrassed about it maybe He's kind of a nerd His entire life he's known about You do the things you're supposed to do

[00:48:41] You're good husband, you work your job And then now he's retired and his wife is dead And he has no life anymore So he gets this internship Which for him it's like kind of amusing He's going to get out of the house

[00:48:53] And very quickly I think what you realize But in the movie what he sees is This is a generation that's allowed to pursue big ambitions Right Without being like monsters But also a generation where he walks in And everyone is so stressed out

[00:49:07] And you can tell that he is like Whatever is stressing you out is not stressful Every time anyone's in a crisis He's just like it's okay How about you do this He never gets mad He's of a grateful generation You just do the work generation

[00:49:23] Even when he discovers that Anne Hathaway's driver Is like Drunk He's like hey get out of here buddy You've been doing this before, happens all the time But you gotta go home Right, but he's just like the most on top of it guy in the world

[00:49:37] And he sees how to like just fix everyone's problems But it does speak to this like generation divide Where it's like we're living the exact lives We want to live which is fucking terrifying And it stresses us out all the time Yes and it's also

[00:49:49] And also anxiety is trendy Yep And you see it in this movie It's part of the culture Is like you ride a bike and you have a big open office And you just are constantly anxious And you give in to your anxiety In this way that feels very

[00:50:05] Yeah, I'm not saying that if you have anxiety That it is because it's a trend Stop shaming anxiety Jamie I know I was like oh no But it's true And he's kind of like why is everyone flipping out all the time Right, it's okay

[00:50:19] Right and like the shittier version of this movie Is or the shittier version of this character I'd say is the guy who's just like Super repressed Like looked in himself and it's just like You don't complain about things But then is like a horrible drunk

[00:50:33] And this is the guy who somehow just like Perfectly balanced Just like lived his little life But I think he sees this thing in her words This is incredible what she's accomplished What she's done, what she can do in this modern era

[00:50:45] The way technology has sped all these things up But there's also this other element of like This is a movie that makes me Get so much residual stress About like Like if a phone goes off in a movie I get like an anxiety ting where I'm just

[00:50:59] Like a text I don't want to check It's an email I don't want to check even if it's for a character Here's a guy who just like sits down And talks to people and is like Okay what's the problem? Like he only deals with like the thing that's

[00:51:11] Right in front of him, like I'm going to go downstairs Talk to this driver The other thing I really appreciated I love that he had a son He has a son who lives in San Diego I really love that Nancy Meyers didn't have A daughter

[00:51:25] It's not that storyline of like You remind me of my daughter No he just like thinks this woman is really amazing And like not in a sexual way He's just like very impressed with her as a person And that he doesn't become a father figure to her

[00:51:37] Like it very distinctly and specifically Is a friendship They're just friends which is so special I love that he didn't, he doesn't like Talk down to her Or try to like help her In ways that are like vaguely inappropriate Not sexually but just like you're like

[00:51:53] Overstepping like he's just like He knows kind of not to do that Yeah he's really like he really has a great grasp On boundaries His big moment in the movie at the end of the movie Is finally being like look you don't need a CEO

[00:52:05] Which like that's it And we build up to that He needs a whole movie to kind of like be like He needs a movie to get to that place where he feels comfortable talking to her Like that because she is the boss and he

[00:52:15] Understands like how the hierarchy of a company Breaks down he's like I am the intern I am just the intern Even though I have so much more experience Do you think she's going to hire him at the end of the movie though

[00:52:25] Like he's like going to be an intern forever Oh he's definitely, I think that if there was a sequel It would start with him, he works there now Because you were saying You were watching with Hummel Breger And the whole movie she was like

[00:52:37] Why isn't he the intern? No she kept being like She had seen it I think He becomes a CEO at the end right I mean I think it's one of those implied endings Sure sure It's sort of the informal kind of sounding board That's what he'll be

[00:52:53] We see where this is going But I think It feels like Is that the thing they're setting up to make it like Super neat and tidy But that would kind of be a bummer ending It would be too obvious Like you say the dynamic would suddenly be

[00:53:09] Shifted in a way that doesn't make sense He's her friend He shouldn't be the number one He wants her to be number one Right, he gets it Even if it would help her if he was the CEO No he can like break into Holmes' verse

[00:53:23] That she's the number one She's the one and only And that he like Has God this fucking care of her But this thing The scene in the hotel room So the movie is building up to this thing He starts taking on a more and more responsibility

[00:53:41] There's this sort of fake out where she gets freaked out She's like She's like She calls him too observant She's in the back seat E-mailing six different people Seven different things at the same time And the idea of someone asking her about herself Or noticing things

[00:53:59] Is like that's creepy Why is someone paying attention to someone else's life That's not what people do anymore And so she looks gift horse in the mouth And then immediately goes and apologizes to him And he's like this is my own shit You're incredible

[00:54:13] He's just like that's okay You want some coffees? Don't say another word But as they push the CEO thing on her She carries him with her As her like Her teddy bear Into this meeting with the CEO And then This is the moment where I was like

[00:54:33] Fuck is this movie about to fall apart The fire alarm goes off He calls her to say did you catch that Which is adorable He wants to make sure that she's not sleeping through the fire alarm Right? They meet outside Wearing their robes Then she goes like

[00:54:49] Hey you want to see my room Oh that's nice I mean do you want to come in And I go like fuck Is this going to be a scene where she like Confuses her emotions for him Tries to kiss him No

[00:55:03] Is this a scene where they strategize about how he's going to become the CEO Like what is the relationship going to turn into At this point and instead it just becomes This insanely honest conversation Right Where he has now seen Anders home In the van kissing the woman

[00:55:17] Because he was also a babysitter in addition to Every other thing He's doing her life It's been weighing on him That scene is pretty funny where everyone's comments on his complexion He's like I'm fine And she says he's cheating on me And he says how do you know

[00:55:33] And you're like is this going to be a blow up Yeah is this going to be a fight This piece of shit He turns into James Cahn in The Godfather Yeah But he like she starts doing Sort of the Helen Hunt speech from What women want

[00:55:49] Where it's like I get it like it's threatening to like You know it's the textbook thing you lash out And like I wanted to believe it was over I want to believe it's just a thing we can work past this And like he shuts her down

[00:55:59] And it's like I can't believe I'm going to sound like the feminist here And like fuck that You're allowed to have a job Absolutely You're an incredible mother and you're a deeply impressive person And no one should shame him to feel like you're doing something wrong

[00:56:13] By being successful What he doesn't say and should say is also this guy Fucking sucks He's Ponskum I've hated him from the beginning Right I saw the play-doh The cake that he made out of play-doh not good But then Hathaway has this moment That just like

[00:56:33] Shook me to my court Both times I have watched it Where she through tears just goes like You know the speech you were saying Where it's like he'll marry someone else My daughter will love him and he'll be happy And I'm going to end up buried alone

[00:56:47] And he's like that's not true Yeah they had the conversation about burial plots Right and she goes He's like you can be with me, my wife's over there I mean Greenwood She says this is what crushes me It's not easy I hate that

[00:57:03] This moment of her being like I have worked so hard to get to this moment I'm not going to give this up And this feeling that I think is really human And very specific of like I'm difficult Sure, so I don't deserve X

[00:57:17] And what makes me think this will happen a second time Especially now if a guy has to enter At the ground floor where I'm already this consumed By my work I already have a kid I can replicate this, isn't it better to stay in this Loveless marriage

[00:57:31] Just because I don't want to feel like I fucked this up Well that's also interesting that this Speech was included in this movie Because I also feel like Nancy Meyers movies Are a lot of times about that like Second chance that a woman gets

[00:57:45] Like especially in Something's Gotta Give Is that right? Yes, absolutely In Something's Gotta Give it's all about Women do kind of get a second Wind in life I want to say maybe the only Like Filmmaker, I know who portrays That women actually do It's not over for us

[00:58:05] Yeah exactly And then you can like be sexual And have this really great fantasy Life at any age And people will be attracted to you And you're not just like this washed up old hag So anyways it's kind of I feel like

[00:58:19] The speech in this movie is like a precursor Almost like an ominous precursor Like literally if you break up with him Maybe But if you break up with him and the opposite That you're gonna break up with him

[00:58:31] And then like maybe actually it's gonna be really great for you It's almost like a It's a wink to where her other movies Head Cause this is the first movie of hers in a while Where like the Younger person I guess probably since Helen Hunt

[00:58:47] Cause Helen Hunt's probably around 40 Somewhere around there I just feel like very much of a piece to me Yeah You want her to end up dumping Anders home Oh wait I forgot the holiday Oh yeah the holiday I love that movie

[00:59:05] It's one of those things where it's like You're watching it and you're going like So what's the outcome I want here Because I obviously don't want her to be with him And I want her to remain the CEO But her life's gonna be really difficult

[00:59:17] If she makes those two decisions She's not a bad way but it's just like she's She can afford a nanny She can She's gonna be on the street He doesn't have any money That's the thing, why is he being difficult

[00:59:31] He's not considering that he has no source of income Outside of her Where's the bank of coming from here He was so much more successful He was the successful before we got together She's just being nice You know how often

[00:59:45] He wasn't successful, I read the original shooting script He was being bad at stock broke At the poop factory I At least once a day Think to myself, you know what my greatest Career ambition would be That I marry someone who has that good of a career

[01:00:01] Wait let's throw to Rom now Before we forget Because we're talking about their fabulous home In life Romly Newman my long time sister Who's also a chef Does a segment every episode where she reviews The kitchen and Nancy Meyer's movies So here reporting now live

[01:00:19] Our special correspondent Romly Newman With her kitchen corner and this one features A bomb twist Welcome to Romly's kitchen corner And here is your host Miss Romly Newman Oh my god I did not see you there Well welcome to my kitchen And I'm gonna talk about the kitchen

[01:00:39] In the intern Which is a kitchen I spent much time With my childhood in One of my friends this is her kitchen And nothing in my life Has brought me more joy than the fact That a kitchen that I've eaten in and cooked in

[01:00:53] Is in a Nancy Meyer's movie But this kitchen is great This kitchen is Very Brooklyn townhouse It's Very well designed I would say it's more I think a lot of Nancy's other kitchens seem like Sets and like they're perfect sets And they look great

[01:01:13] But this actually looks like a kitchen in a very well designed House There's that amazing fireplace All the original molding Beautiful floors And you know the funny thing is they actually My friend's kitchen is unbelievable And they kind of tore it apart And Nancy of course totally redesigned

[01:01:31] The kitchen for this movie She made a lot of changes Which is interesting she changed the stove She completely reworked the island And it's still beautiful I'm partial to it because I know it but I also think It's a really chic elegant kitchen

[01:01:47] And it's very New York too So I'm a big fan So it turns out The brownstone in this movie Is one of her High school friends brownstones So she's like cooks meals in that She was the girl who would cook for other girls It's a nice kitchen

[01:02:05] It's a bomb shell right Jamie Stunt That is a big piece of information Huge It's a beautiful life It's Romley's dream life that Anne Hathaway has And I would give up anything to be married to Anne Hathaway In this movie and be like

[01:02:21] Oh cool I just get to be a dad all the time Would you be married to Andrews Holm No I wouldn't be married to Andrews Holm I know I'm just asking And this devil's bargain What if it's like you get the life

[01:02:33] But you have to be married to Andrews Holm instead of Anne Hathaway Who's making the money I get it No and also if he was that wonderful A person like that's the point So not only Not only would I not feel emasculated By being the house husband

[01:02:47] I would feel empowered if I was like I don't have to have a career anymore I'm just gonna try to raise a child well In this broken world And also he's someone who had a career So like if it got to a point where maybe

[01:02:59] Something happened with her business It went south on some level No he has like skills He just wants to be a great dad Form some hobbies I don't know Absolutely it's a great life And the fact that it's like another Parent at the school is just sloppy

[01:03:15] It is Yeah it is sloppy that's the thing It's a little gross Did she ask who is who is she I feel like at no point She says it's a mom at Pages school I think she knows the name cause she read the text But yeah that's creepy

[01:03:31] It's like another mom You're muddying the school Waters here And Jules goes to the school It's not like Jules is completely cut off from that She knows the moms It's too much it's too incestuous I hate it And it sucks cause it's like the movie ends very abruptly

[01:03:49] Where he comes and gives this very Unconvincing speech to win her back To be like I get it I was ashamed I want to be here for you I know most of you that is a victory That was the thing that really bummed me out About this movie

[01:04:05] The whole scene And I thought Anne Hathaway Seemed really touched by the Speech The disparity between The coverage of the two closeups She's so in it She's so goodness and I also feel like He's just mumbling He's reading from a piece of paper

[01:04:25] When he goes there's a moment where He gives two kind of like odd platonic hugs Yes Twice And both times as he goes over Her shoulder he like Closes his eyes and he's like Get in here You like that kind of hug I suppose to like

[01:04:45] If you were really hugging your wife You'd be like sobbing over their shoulder Yeah there's such a disconnect And she was sobbing She was fully in it And one of those performances where I picture they call cut And he goes over to like a grip

[01:05:01] And he's like this character Such a fucking pussy Making fun of the character he's playing Maybe he's nice I have no idea I think he's horrible in this movie This performance is confusing If he sold the shit out of this monologue

[01:05:17] Where you actually believed he showed remorse and change But it ends up making the movie feel Like Jason's hand Coming out of the grave at the end of the Friday The 13th movie I will say It feels like It almost felt like meta

[01:05:33] It felt like a different movie That's a great way to describe it It felt like it's like a campy movie Where he was just very like schmacky Right and you're like this is I guess the compromise She makes in her life

[01:05:45] She didn't compromise on the business but she's gonna be stuck with this guy As I mentioned in previous episodes She hates sad ending She said this like she just can't watch anything with a sad ending So maybe she's just like I can't end the movie that way

[01:05:57] It's too sad She cast the guy wrong but maybe she would not allow A divorce to be I don't know I mean that's the only defense I got for ya It's also just weird Should have went to jail Send him to jail

[01:06:13] She's like a go to jail card I don't know where he just is Carried off in handcuffs You said you loved this movie Oh yeah so good You have been sort of like frustrated living in the Nancy Meyers world

[01:06:25] And I had had the same thing throughout my life Like I can't deal with Nancy Meyers movies And then when I watched it on a plane I was like Oh fuck I think I kind of get it And then this series has been like

[01:06:35] Going back rewatching them all And like understanding the value Of what she does With this movie I've never seen it before And I totally get I think at least the Nancy Meyers sort of vibe And it's like all the sort of things you guys Touched on it's like

[01:06:51] It's like a nice hug of a movie Absolutely It's so delightful I really love Robert DeNiro's character And again as a man who's trying to live in this world And navigate and be a better person It was like really enjoyable Talk to you

[01:07:07] You can be like hey Ben got some advice Like don't you want that to chat with him Yes it would be nice I want to be that kind of guy I want to be like a good dude I want to be like her just Divorcing that guy

[01:07:21] I'm all for the having the business And the kid I shudder to think But go ahead and answer the door Hello Jules Talk to you I'm a good listener Hey it's the titular intern Ben the intern Ben I was going to struggle for your name

[01:07:50] I'm doing intern Ben I'm doing alright but more importantly how are you doing Jules You just call everyone Jules Jules I think you're a very special lady Thank you I don't think you should give up your business

[01:08:02] That's me I don't want to seem like the woke feminists here Jules You're very woke Thank you Ben I just want to create a safe space for you to be able to talk Oh Like a talking space Just talk quietly and breathe heavily

[01:08:18] Ben are you picking that up I mean the mics are jumping I'm getting it I'm glad to know You can take in air And breathe it out Yeah it's just a little exhausting I'm the only person that everyone in the world Can talk to

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[01:10:58] Oh I mean hands down one of my favorite movies of all time I think that's her crowning achievement That movie I could watch every day and not hate it And the holiday is a close second I really love the holiday Which? This is something we've been asking guests

[01:11:10] Which part of the holiday do you prefer? Do you like both parts? What? Oh you mean London or Los Angeles Right I mean I Fully love London Yes Los Angeles is You know Well I just want to think I want them to get cuter with them faster

[01:11:32] They don't and they certainly don't take some a while She's stuck with Eli Wallach And also even at the end you're like She's definitely into him He's a little more into scatting Why is he like not more into her Soundtracks

[01:11:46] Do you want to hang out on New Years? We should be fucking by now He's still like doing the first date eight times Like come on Jack He asked her if she wants to hang out on New Years On New Years And he also asked her

[01:12:00] When is she gonna buy her dress She was like five minutes He does make her fettuccine I thought she made him the chiney Now he makes her the chiney Are you sure? We are doing a Nancy podcast here But she's the one who suggested the fettuccine

[01:12:16] She's like how about a little fettuccine That sounds like a great movie She says that She said it How about some Christmas fettuccine So it's her idea Alright well full credit No credit for your question Okay I want to have one final thought Okay

[01:12:36] It's I think the scene Where he sort of Finally trying to win her over He gets her good soup And that is such a Interesting detail Wait what are we talking about We're back to have one I love that scene I feel like that's the nicest gesture

[01:12:56] She's like what a life coach should be Soup you gotta get a good broth Oh bone broth don't give me stars What a human should be I watched this movie and I'm like That's a vision of society Can I say that having soup In a car It's stressful

[01:13:14] In a nice car too The sloshing of it all I do get stressed watching her try to drink Soup while texting in the back seat It was We're asking for a disaster here I want to shout out Renee Rousseau She's great Talk about another like very elegant

[01:13:32] Piece of like This is right after like Nightcrawler So she's sort of been like back a little bit She's so great in the four movies Yes Another elegant piece of like Less is more screamer That scene where they're like let's just catch up on each other

[01:13:48] And she just very casually says I used to be sick, I'm not any longer I found very affecting You know like this notion of like everything They've lived through She's a real classy lady And You know, and Angel Propriet for

[01:14:04] Maybe not, well he's like probably like 7 or 8 years older She's weirdly gone into that zone Cause wasn't she in Not in Las Vegas, she was in one of those movies Is she just getting started I think Yes, she's now started to become

[01:14:16] The like if you have a movie With 80 year old actors She's 50 She's 65 I'm pretty sure I'm going to start dating Like guys in their 60's In movies pretty soon There's some like imaginary threshold Yeah, there is

[01:14:34] There's like two buckets and you suddenly are moved from one to the next I think that they definitely cast me opposite a 6 year old as like The fun love interest And not the young fun, just the love interest The other phenomenon The other phenomenon we've like Pin pointed

[01:14:50] In doing this miniseries Is the big movie star has Significantly like generations younger Best friend who's treated like their contemporary Yes, so I feel like the other thing You could do is be like Julia Roberts childhood best friend in a movie Right, where it's like

[01:15:06] They went to high school together Ask no more questions of this I was a freshman when she was a Senior Only 4 years difference I also want to shout Rannals I think Rannals rules in there Cause he's not a dick That should be a dick

[01:15:24] You know being like hey Jules Instead he's like very understanding He's always on her side Maybe he's a little frustrated sometimes But like he's very professional That's the one boy where I think she nailed the cast She nailed it and it's funny because he can be so big

[01:15:38] And this movie is just not big at all Yeah, I think he's usually always pretty consistent too Like yeah, I just like him a lot Do you know He had not Done a single piece of on camera acting Until girls He'd only been theater

[01:15:54] Right, which was like his big theater breakthrough Book of Mormon and everything And that was the first time he had ever been on camera I didn't know that Cause he's like 40, he's a lot older than he looks 40 years old And so he was already like 35

[01:16:08] In Book of Mormon, he's playing like 17 And you bought it, he has amazing skin But I was like how did this guy not work How did it take him that long And then I found out he had a super prolific career

[01:16:18] He was a big actor from the time he was a teenager He did like Yu-Gi-Oh and shit He played Archie in a bunch of like Archie TV movies Do you know what Andrew Rao's debut work as an actor was? Tell me

[01:16:30] He was one of the titular street sharks I did know this, he's one of the street What? Street sharks What is that? In the fallout of Ninja Turtles where everyone had to do like Mutated animals Co-opt another subculture Like weird like gangster

[01:16:48] Oh I feel like I know the image I'm trying to find a good picture of this picture Oh I have a pretty good one in my head They were sort of greaser I think you want to see these sharks I feel like they are

[01:17:00] Yeah that's exactly, they're all wearing little He's the one given The blue one The shark power salute It's a very weird thing Turn your phone off Andrew Randall's, the original streets Yeah I don't know Is there anything else you want to show?

[01:17:18] You guys are saying like is someone got to give Your favorite? I asked you to be on this because we saw You were liking the Nancy Meyers Post on Instagram And then I saw your Instagram that you were in New York

[01:17:30] And I was like oh that would be great But I forgot to ask you what your sort of Like lifelong relationship to her movies What's your Nancy? Well I'm trying to think so What women want Love that movie Wait she did the remake? Yeah I loved it

[01:17:48] That's like 98 Yeah it was great What women want I remember seeing in theaters I did not like it But then Something's got to give and the holiday Both I just remember being like just deeply Enchanted with both of those And Yeah and then it's complicated

[01:18:08] I saw on Christmas day with my parents Hated it I mean like deeply deeply Really It's a movie that came at the wrong time And I really there's so many elements That I was attracted to Like she worked in a bakery It's Meryl Streep and yeah

[01:18:24] And her house is beautiful Like there were just so many sort of aesthetic pieces That really little fire within me And then the rest of it I hated But when I hear her name I just I light up I'm always excited Interesting like I was reading this

[01:18:40] Article about her and they talk about how Like she actually does have a lot of box office Success but it's like a slower burn As opposed to like you know Right but it's so interesting to me Because when her movies come out Or movies like that come out

[01:18:54] I am clamoring To see them and I know other women Like me where they're like Absolutely opening weekend that's what I'm seeing Filling avoids So I'm kind of like why are these things Like a genre of a genre Like why is it just her and Nora Efron

[01:19:10] Who are like the two female Sort of like auteurs That we know What is Fletcher who did the proposal And did a movie Sorry who's the other one And then she did the proposal And then she did a movie I like a lot Which I

[01:19:28] I was gonna say I really like That I think is sort of similar to this Is the guilt trip Kind of fox In a way that It's a brilliant slam dunk From like half court Like Michael Jordan stretching All the way with his carton

[01:19:46] You know what she did after that It was not Shot with a different title It was called my mother's curse And late in the game they were like It's a road trip with a Jewish mother Should be called the guilt trip It's genius

[01:20:02] The movie after the guilt trip was No something really bad Hot Pursuit The movie with Sofia Vergara And Reese Witherspoon It was an early movie We talked about this a thousand times But David Knight We got very bad reviews and we very Defiantly kept on telling everyone

[01:20:22] We were gonna see it together and have a good time And we still haven't seen it I guess the only thing with who you're talking about Annie Fletcher I don't see those as clearly defined No no no She's being... You know what you're getting

[01:20:38] She's not on tour in the same kind of way Right so I don't know I just don't understand why it's not I don't know why it's not more of Yeah it just doesn't make sense Who is not like every woman I know Is going to see those

[01:20:52] I think it's part of the box office Or the way that studios look at things Becoming so global And these things Really just rarely translate Overseas because they're so cultural Like there's a Chinese Remake of what women want You hear their big Bollywood Remakes of American rom-cross

[01:21:12] Because there's just dynamics And relationships They'll take the premise but it's like Here's the Hindi version of Pretty Woman Whereas the American one doesn't make sense And it's this weird thing Even a super profitable Rom-com for them doesn't seem worth it anymore Which is really short sighted

[01:21:32] It's this bubble burst thing I think we see happening This drive me crazy This did okay overseas, it did pretty well Made like $200 million worldwide Crazy It did fine I'm guessing it went a little over But you know The problem with the box office

[01:21:50] So we do this box office game Jamie But like we've done this box office Transylvania 2 box office My other favorite movie of this game Because So you got Scorched Trials Open number 1 Transylvania is number 1 Interns number 2 No I just already said Transylvania Scorched Trials And interns 2

[01:22:14] Which felt kind of low but then it ended up at like 75 Yeah did great Like she just trucks along People slide into the theater at their own convenience Movies probably do so fucking well On airplanes and on cable TV And on VOD and like

[01:22:28] You know all of it It's so funny if something's got to give Or the holiday or maybe even the intern We're on an airplane and there were movies that I hadn't seen yet That I should watch I would still Something's gotta give

[01:22:42] I don't know if you guys ever do that Like I just want the comfort of something I know On a plane I need something I know Versus like I still need to see the Florida project Every time if there's like A plane is not made for that

[01:22:54] When Harry Met Sally is on as well I'll just watch when Harry Met Sally I don't want to concentrate too hard on a plane Like I just want something I'm very familiar with the beats of it And like I know as I'm watching it

[01:23:04] What time is passing to So it's like when I'm done I'm like oh 2 hours of the flight is gone Yes I like that I guess the question right now Is Netflix Is Netflix really gonna like step up to the plate And kind of commit to saving the rom-com

[01:23:18] Because they've had so much success with it recently And Butcher's next movie is on Netflix Really? What's that? Dumplin I don't know it's called Dumplin I think she's supposed to make the enchanted sequel as well She's in it she's in she's Aniston Yeah I don't know

[01:23:34] I just feel like they had a couple that Were really fucking warmly received this year Yeah I feel like all of them are sort of Teen skews You don't think that's bad I love teen comedies I've never loved before I enjoyed that

[01:23:50] And then there was set it up which was a 20-something I haven't seen that one It's not like great cinema But it's pretty well written and they're so Cute And it's also just like an oasis in a desert Like you're just like I need one of these movies

[01:24:04] Where I just like want people to be charming I just want like people relating to each other Yes it's literally I don't need anything else Occasionally I need a horror movie I'll give you those too I don't trust them yet for horror movies Yeah they're a little

[01:24:20] I don't know I know they're dabbling What's your fave horror this year? This year? I don't know recent Have you seen Halloween yet? No I've heard mixed things I haven't seen it yet My favorite one this year I really liked I think it was this year

[01:24:38] You mentioned Unsane I really loved Unsane That's a great movie Did you see Unsane? I didn't I need to see it Claire Foy She's kicking ass She's in everything No I just I feel like Because these movies are more affordable And because I think they

[01:25:02] Maybe work better for the Netflix model Because they're such like comfort food movies I would like to see them like step up To the plate and make these movies at a bigger budget Bigger movie stars and more consistently It seems doable Get real directors and all of that

[01:25:16] And she'll get your stars Nancy I wanted to make another movie with some You know big stars Maybe Deadpool He would be good He would know he was in a Nancy Meyers You would make jokes about the kitchens or whatever I've been saying this entire miniseries

[01:25:34] If I were fucking Jennifer Lawrence I would be calling Nancy Meyers nonstop And being like Give me a movie where I can be like fun again Absolutely I got so blown out of proportion Call it fun again Call it fun again Jennifer Lawrence is fun again

[01:25:52] My dream both wet and dry Is to just I love a dry dream A good nice dry dream I would like to just stand In a beautifully tiled kitchen Like staring out the window At my garden Drinking some kind of tea In a large white button down

[01:26:14] Shirt and someone comes in And I'm like I'm a mess That's all I want is to just shoot that scene Doesn't even have to be in a movie I just want to film that scene with Nancy Meyers directing me Do you have a dream marginal conflict

[01:26:26] That your character is going through? I think my character That's a great question She's definitely going through a divorce Great friends with the guy still Right You gotta stay friends I think the conflict is Maybe Should we get divorced It's a long separation

[01:26:48] I think it's what it's called The long separation A very long separation They don't want to file the papers The papers are not filed And then they have sex And they're like this is good It's like a It's like a married Will they won't they

[01:27:08] That's a good idea That's kind of a great idea We have like four weeks until this episode is released If you want to go slide in the re-dasting DMs If you want to register with WGA You might want to mail this to yourself tonight No problem

[01:27:24] I'm just saying We all get credit Blank check pictures You let our shingles stay on Please There's no black Everest and black mass Remember we spent like 10 minutes making fun of this box It was fun time It's a lovely movie Yeah It's nice that I remember

[01:27:50] The scenes I was at the re-dasting And also the way they cut the trailer Where it was a lot of fish out of water Look at these boys Her big speech which I like ruined at the beginning of this movie Where she says like

[01:28:02] Went from guys like Harrison Ford and Jack Nicholson to this And she wrote this part for Jack Nicholson Right Oh really? Which it wouldn't work No, I don't think it would work He's too creepy These are the two people who need to be in this movie

[01:28:16] I enjoyed Nicholson but he's never gonna be like I'm a Brooklyn guy Married for years I loved my wife like you didn't have a wife Get the fuck out of here I love Michael Caine I love Reese Witherspoon Michael Caine might be like playing an English guy

[01:28:32] Were they gonna redo it? I would be like you got He'd seem like Mr. French Hello, what a cool office But the other thing is I think the reason He's riding her bike So sorry to get you back She does ride her bike She's on the bike again

[01:28:52] The two things I think are harnessed really well in this movie Think De Niro is the fucking best at Is trying really hard to not show any emotion Yes, which he has to do over and over again As these failures of 25 year olds Are talking to him

[01:29:04] And so often like that's used In the tough guy De Niro like He's trying not to show his rage He's trying not to get violent But he's just as effective bottling Like just sort of like a little Like morose loneliness

[01:29:18] Or just sort of swallowing like a chuckle or whatever The close up of him Sleeping on the bed Watching singing in the rain and crying to himself Silently is like fucking Beautiful And his performance in this movie gets to me in the same way That the end of

[01:29:34] A midnight run just destroys me Where it's like him trying to Not show that he's affected by having a good friendship You know, like not trying to pretend He doesn't care but trying to Not let himself break down crying Right And that's what he's best at

[01:29:50] The thing that works so well about Hathaway here Is that it's like right after I feel like Everyone had started criticizing her For being like too perfect Too controlled, too theater kid The back half of the Oscars Her first 10 minutes she's kind of addressing That perception of herself

[01:30:06] Why did we dislike her so much What was the name? It was a load of bullshit Her speech? She came What was the movie I don't even remember She's loved Hathaway What was the movie she won the Oscar for? She's really good People thought she was theater kiddie

[01:30:26] She's like teacher's pet She works too hard She's just good Bullshit She never started a website where She sold psychic powders Or got married on a plantation If you're a professional actor What's bad about being a fucking theater kid What else is that supposed to be?

[01:30:46] This thing I hate about What is this supposed to be on the Mathematician on the side? It's embarrassing to be in a show You want to be like awkward and awkward introvert How dare she care about her career It was kind of the Jennifer Lawrence thing

[01:31:00] Jennifer Lawrence was out there She was like I'm just a fun person And Hathaway felt fake Quote unquote or whatever I think that's who she genuinely is When she does interviews she's fucking amazing And she's really candid and honest And where she places in the industry

[01:31:16] And all of that She's a fucking great actor Her run that she's in the middle of In this movie which is like The Dark Knight, Lea Mizz, Interstellar The Intern Colossal These are all great performances And very different kinds of movies Great Nights in the Star

[01:31:34] She also does She feels like it's always Anne Hathaway But she chooses a bunch of different types of roles And different kinds of filmmakers And she watched a movie with her and be like If only Anne Hathaway wasn't the lead

[01:31:46] It's always like no, she's just delightful to watch She's almost always a great lead And also there's a kind of Refreshing lack of vanity For someone who is so I know what you mean Percise has this kind of figure skater Artistry that's really well put

[01:32:02] That's really well put Yeah, because I like that in the hotel room Seeing she ugly cries And she gets embarrassed by the fact That she's saying these things out loud You know? That it's like this dark Confession for her and that CEO scene

[01:32:16] The first time where Andrew Reynolds Pitches it to her, it's like her reckoning With her like cultural reputation Where it's like what's the problem? I'm successful. The business we've exceeded Our five year plan in eight months Why don't you want me to do this

[01:32:30] I know, 18 months this stupid company Has been around for It looks like a fully fledged years long business This movie should have been called 18 months But I feel like that was the Anne Hathaway thing Where it's like okay she's like 32 She won in Oscar

[01:32:44] And everyone's like she works too hard It's like what do you want from her? Stop trying to impress us Anne You want me to be shittier? Yeah, they want her to like fall down I just think she meshes with the character So well because she's really feeling it

[01:32:58] And also why I think Jennifer Lawrence is amazing And it's like why can't there be Jennifer Lawrence Anne and Hathaway And that doesn't happen with Nelsarge You don't go like great It's just cool to not care Yeah, I don't understand

[01:33:14] That's a bigger cultural thing I could do 17 episodes on I could talk about it forever We talked about it I like this movie about caring And I care about it a lot I care about caring And we're gonna have one more episode We're home again next week

[01:33:30] But we are done with Nancy for now I hope she makes another movie We'll be there And Jamie you'll be there opening weekend Friday Friday 7pm You know what I'm gonna put on the map You won't be there on Friday You'll be there at the premiere

[01:33:48] Oh shit that is my dream The long filing Make it happen Crashing season 3 Comes back early Yep comes back I think I have a date but it might change It's a winter Winter is coming Crashing is coming And you're one of the best stand-ups Working on dates Yeah

[01:34:14] Anything else you want to plug? I have a book About getting married It's called ridiculous and unfiltered Guide to being a bride And I stand by it very firmly Amazing I think you probably Don't remember this I was at Montreal the same year as you

[01:34:34] But I was in the characters Yeah I do remember that But I went to see the first stand-up showcase Where it was brutal Oh god it was so bad Where it was just like this It was a death march It was in a huge arena

[01:34:50] The palle de dessert It was huge And everyone was French Canadian And everyone was bombing And you came out and were just like You had that like Olympic level concentration Where I had seen you At bar shows And open mics and all of that

[01:35:10] And I knew you were really good And everyone was bombing And it was like the way people talk about The Bernie Mac Def Jam night Where everyone was bombing And he just came out That is the greatest thing in the world

[01:35:24] That is literally the nicest compliment I've ever seen I came out and everyone was like I don't know how Jamie I watched that all the time It comes up in every writer's room I've ever been in It's like the go-to Sign phone was just talking about it

[01:35:38] I just got obsessed with Bernie Mac And watching old Bernie Mac clips But this night was like that Where you gotta do a tight five minutes In front of a brutal crowd Who's already been watching for over an hour They've hated everyone

[01:35:52] And you came out and just seemed completely on phase by it I'm gonna be on a big mess because I know what it actually feels like to do stuff But it did not show at all That's like very nice to hear Wow, yeah that was very nerve-wracking

[01:36:02] That was a terrible festival And then I had my show at that place the next day Oh yours was there too? And I had a bit that involved poster boards And they all fell down and the bit was ruined Oh no! And it literally was like the nightmare

[01:36:16] That was the end of me doing poster board bits I had a sequential poster board bit And after the second one they all fell down That's so shitty And it was like this is the nightmare of you giving the presentation without your pants Right It was that

[01:36:30] I did and it was literally one of those things Where I then did the other two characters I had And it was like a blur Your brain turned off And went into like instinct mode My heart just skipped a beat I know that is such a visceral Feeling

[01:36:48] I was like 22 years old My goal is to get into this festival by the time I'm 30 It was the first time I auditioned Somehow I got in It made no fucking sense I was the least qualified person in my group

[01:37:00] But this one bit had killed it at auditions And I was like, I don't know, I guess I can do this People liked this bit so much And then the bit self-destructed on stage And I just went into a blur And then went backstage I can barely remember

[01:37:14] The following half an hour And then at Montreal did you do the Hyatt party at night? Yes That's the thing Everyone staying at the Hyatt Well, not everybody staying at the Hyatt Most people are staying at the Hyatt And then at the bar at the Hyatt

[01:37:30] That's like a circular bar And there's an after party every night After all the shows And it's such a high pressure situation You're so acutely aware of where you stand In the order Of importance of people in this room And it's just

[01:37:46] It's such a hard thing to experience But it's also kind of such a great equalizer Because everyone stays there until four in the morning And gets so sloppy drunk Thank God for alcohol If that was a sober event The awkwardness would be so palpable

[01:38:00] After a certain point the Hyatt bar just becomes Like, oh we're all lonely people who want people to laugh And you start to see Agents getting really fucked up And you're like, oh you were the guys that are supposed to keep it together

[01:38:10] And I've never seen people more drunk Yeah, it was kind of amazing Anyway, memories Memories I cannot imagine doing You know how much I hate any of that shit I can't imagine doing any of it I think you grow less tolerant of it as you keep going

[01:38:26] Because you start to just have confidence in your ability Yeah, right Not that I like hanging out I like being social, especially in comedy Like it is sort of a naturally social Job, I guess But it is nice to be like

[01:38:40] You know if I don't hang out tonight Yes, at that point in time though When you're trying to get into that festival The social thing is still like It's half of it And I also, my year was like My group was like Lauren Lapkis Rachel Bloom Sam Richardson

[01:39:00] It was incredible people And I was like, I'm a phony You're not a phony, you're fine Anyway You're just like a 22 year old One bit that kind of worked by accident That's, yeah, but I mean Very odd, yeah Yeah, you were there for a reason They saw something

[01:39:20] They knew I do a podcast someday They knew someday I talk about the intern We did great This was great guys So thrilled we got you on the show Thank you so much for listening Please remember to rate, review, subscribe

[01:39:38] Thank you Blankies, I read the comment for some real nerdy shit Thanks to Andrew for good for our social media LaymontGymory for our theme song David just almost knocked over his Reminder of his Wendy's lemonade It was good Okay, humble brag

[01:39:52] Thanks to Pat Reynolds and Joe Bone for our artwork Go to T-Public for some real Nerdy merchandise And As always Anne Hathaway should dump Andrew's money Okay, I'm just gonna do this How do I spend my days? Nope, let me try that again Heavy breathing

[01:40:17] That's the key to the near right He does the little frowny face Just do the frowny face, yeah How do I spend the rest of my days? You name it Golf, books, movies Pinocchio Tried yoga, Linda Cook You're terrible at this I'm gonna do a Hathaway quote

[01:40:35] I can't do it Pinocchio really got me I'm on Linda Lavin just climbing Once climbing like a tree Peter and I used to do a denier impression On set all the time But I feel like I can only do the one thing Wait, Peter who?

[01:40:51] Right, and his denier was really good Sure But the impression we would do is just like Imagining you were in a scene With a denier or like on set with denier And we'd like walk around and he'd go I'm in this movie I suppose

[01:41:07] You think he did that on the enter? Those cameras are filming Alright Alright, come on, just do something Do the denier, I don't fucking care Do whatever you want I didn't get the humor And it felt like or even just like The repetitive nature of Aspects of filmmaking

[01:41:27] Right, and like the pictures Sure, sure But there's this tone that I finally got With seeing this Like her Ouvra That's the word we've been looking for We're just going to save a lot of time Going for it