The Jedi Order with Mike Drucker - Revenge Of The Podcast

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Moment of Silence for the Jedi Order.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Single tier.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Just to start out, let's take one moment of silence.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello!

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Revenge Of The Podcast.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Griffin.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That was awful Griffin.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That was so loud.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He just totally peeked out.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to cut the moment of silence with some energy.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want an episode to be a bummer.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I could talk about some sad stuff.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, Ben.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's producer Ben of course, aka, Purdueer Ben.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting the intro before I get the intro.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He cut in.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He cut in.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: He cut in?

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: He yelled in the microphone.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I want to cut the silence!

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: You're doing it again.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching your levels right now.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm going to talk very quietly.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, this is Griffin.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: This is David Sims.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Revenge Of The Podcast.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Part of the story Griffin and David present franchise.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The rude interruption of my emotional oscillation was from producer Ben, aka, Purdueer Ben,

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: aka, the Benduser, aka, the Hawes, aka, Mr. Positive, aka, HelloFennell.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck this movie.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, I didn't rewatch it since the last time I watched it, but just on the way over

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: here to thinking about talking about it again.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just so painful.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: What is this?

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: How many have we done now?

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: This is four out of ten.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's not four.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not four.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes it is.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you serious?

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: 100%.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's five.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's four.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: This is four.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: That outburst of anger, this is a new speed.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I literally thought this was the sixth episode we done on this stupid movie.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No, this is four out of ten.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We do ten episodes on each movie.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no!

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking to our guests.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's coming from our wonderful guest, the great Mike Drucker.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Hello.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The great comedian, writer, works on The Tonight Show which we fell in along with Chase Mitchell,

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: a former guest of ours.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We had Chase.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Chase was with us when we discovered there was a third Phantom Menace movie.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It was huge.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Mike, I know you're a big fan of the Phantom Menace trilogy so you probably

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: knew all this in advance, but we came into this kind of neophytes.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: We were huge Phantom Menace fans.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But somehow...

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that our story?

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was that we just sort of remembered eventually that there were...

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no because you're forgetting that I saw...when I saw the first one when it came out, I said

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: it was the best one yet.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You did.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I said it was the best movie anyone had made yet.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We were huge Phantom Menace fans.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to do a podcast, ten episodes just to reexamine it.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Much to our surprise, we found out that George had in fact made a sequel.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Attack of the Clones.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Ten episodes on that one we're ready to move on, Chase was here and then we found

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: out that in fact there was a third film.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He completed the trilogy and so now we're trying to figure out...a serial style mystery investigation

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that we pretty much dropped.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What is this trilogy supposed to be about?

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this...did he tell the complete story?

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: What is it trying to say?

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, something like that?

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Some investigation like that.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're a big fan.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of the trilogy.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean personally I think like if you look at the movies coming out like, you know,

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: the first one's before 9-11, it's the happiest one of the trilogy.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And then after that, not that everything's about 9-11 but it gets much darker and you

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: find the characters you like turning to evil and it might be a statement about

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: America's turn that he didn't plan ahead of time when he made the first one.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the first movie ends on a big upswing, right?

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, big upswing.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Gung and Sav.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, Sith defeated.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The Trade Federation diffused.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Second movie ends.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You got Clone Wars starting, you know, Anakin lost an arm.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And then this one, this one's just a tragedy.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a pitiable tragedy.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would argue this movie feels like a film made by a man who has lost the will

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: to live.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is how we all felt sort of four years after 9-11.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like Micah's saying also a man who hates all institutions.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And government.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And overturn the government.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is a movie about every institution crumbling into death.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a movie of severe distrust.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because at the end of the day, even though Anakin is presented as acting worse than Obi-Wan.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The Jedi's and the Republic are both represented as being bad shitty forces in a way.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Headless, foolish, like easily corruptible.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the Jedi's are to blame as much.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're talking about the Jedi Order today.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, okay.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the Jedi Order.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, of course.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We've done an episode on Anakin.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about Palpatine.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But we want to talk about how the rest of the Jedi's are functioning in this movie.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Not well.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not well.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Really, really everything they've been doing wrong comes back to vitamin E.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: For three movies, we've been getting warnings like, hey, it turns out they're Sith Lords.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we keep an eye on that.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's been hinting at pretty heavily.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep an eye on that.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hey, like someone in the Jedi Order ordered a clone army without us noticing that.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Aren't we psychic?

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Shouldn't we be on this?

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: The third movie, like, oh yeah, the whole clone army, they're genetically programmed to kill

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: us.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We miss this.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what I hate is you see the first movie and you have two Jedi's that are just fighting

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: incredibly well against one guy, obviously, but then the more Jedi you add to every

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: movie, the worse they are, to the third movie where they order Order 66 and they're

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: just shot.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they just get shot.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They just get shot.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Like one leg doesn't even turn around.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Like she definitely senses shit, but she doesn't turn around.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Can I say shit?

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh you can say anything you want.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this Hasbro pays for this.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It hasbro does pay for this, but you can say whatever you want.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Second, Griffin has paid Hasbro.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I pay Hasbro.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You can say whatever you want, but just advance notice just because you're a

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: comedian and you're a comedic writer and I understand I come from the same world.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't No Bits podcast.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We should make it very clear.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No Bits.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We hate bits.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't believe in bits.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to talk, this is a serious film Chris is a podcast.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to talk openly about the films we're discussing with no overarching bits.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't give me more work.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to have to do any editing and post.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No Bits.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Back into the third and final film in the Phantom Menace trilogy.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: No, Mike is totally right.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike's right.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Because yeah, it's like the Jedi's they're supposed to be these sort of these

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: chess type games when they fight.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know it's like wow, you're watching them.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: They're perfectly bound.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, then it's like I don't know bang bang, they're dead next one.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Well and I think you know.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's supposed to be 15,000 Jedi's something like that.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Like someone throws that number out at some point.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's something like 15,000 Jedi's around the planet.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They all just get shot.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think more than anything that is representative of

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and not to keep on beating this drum but a filmmaker who has kind of lost interest.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Right because the first, I mean we you know the way we've done a lot of research into how

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: the big shift in filmmaking between episode one, episode two that was pushed even further

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: into three where it was really all in front of a green screen.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Not even having the actors in the same scene often and stitching them together

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in post and for digital backdrops and this and that.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of it was done a lot more on the fly where as the first one I think had

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of extensive planning.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And so the first one you feel like really sharp precise choreography

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and fight sequences that are shot and edited around those moves and bill.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Really thought out.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and this just feels like he had especially when there are group scenes

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: where you have more than one Jedi on the screen.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They just die.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but it feels like he just had each actor come in one by one into a soundstage

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and go like just do some stuff with your lightsaber.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah wave it around a bit.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah wave it around a bit.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Film them for two minutes and then copy paste of them into other scenes later.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's so non-specific.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: When these guys are supposed to be the best guys and gals let's say.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I'm not fucking gender binary when it comes to Jedi's.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Although all Jedi's do seem to be male or female.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and if they're aliens like and they're women we can tell they're women.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like big sexy alien women.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Big sexy alien women.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah like Yaddle.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: That big.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: What happened to Yaddle?

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I think she just quits.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't see Yaddle.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't see Yaddle.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but we are told.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: She's only in movie one right.

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah let's just say I mean you know we are acknowledging that George is making films

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that reflect the world that we live in.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yaddle was I think about 6,000 years old.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: She was an old lady.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And women tend to lose career opportunities you know in their 40s

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: so if Yaddle, if 6,000 is the equivalent you know

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_01]: she might just gotten pushed out for

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_01]: because Yala Sakura shows up in episode two.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yaddle's gone.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yala Sakura's wearing a halter top.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one with the she's a twi-lek right?

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one with the leku.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What's the word for it?

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: The things that...

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They're called leku?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They're called something with an L.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good poll Mike.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what they're called.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike might be deeper into Wikipedia than we are.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It could be wrong though.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It could be a totally different word and I seem like an asshole so.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what all our listeners are thinking right now.

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: All our twi-lek listeners are so bad right now.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You asshole.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What an asshole.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's who I'm thinking of when I say big sexy alien woman.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right but Yaddle's phased out.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yaddle just fucking put in the target.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She just appears.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They need this sexy or flashy or Jedi.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Little reverse housekeeping here to get onto a point.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: First of all it always needs to be said please rate and review.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah sure.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah no because Ben's here on a Sunday.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We're recording on a Sunday right now.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We gotta line those coffers.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Week after week we gotta line those coffers.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The reviews have been nice.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate them.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I especially appreciate how many people say that Ben is their favorite part of the

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: show and imply that we are monsters.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We are monsters.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: We are monsters but adorable monsters.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Rate, subscribe, review all that, all your submissions.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This and that.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Last week we was a dark week for us psychologically.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But also we didn't have an episode last week.

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You were filming.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was filming.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was in Washington DC actually.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So we had things that we were doing.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_02]: At first I thought you meant like someone died.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was just a real dark week.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_02]: All the Jedi's died.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Every single Jedi.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: About 14,995 Jedi's died.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Two are left?

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah two or three.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't count any of those Jedi's.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the second point we have to make is Mike,

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: just so you can feel safe in this environment if you aren't already.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Sith Lords are not allowed to listen to this podcast.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a thing Griffin's been doing recently.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: No because I don't want people rating us fucking zero stars.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't it only be two ratings?

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There's only a master and an apprentice.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't got one one star rating so far.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But who was it?

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that second shooter drop.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The master or the apprentice.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But which one was it?

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Well here's what you do.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_02]: This is what I'm saying.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's an episode one that got exchanged in dialogue.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda and Mace Windu.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, seems like it was a Sith Lord.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Which was it the master and apprentice?

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know let's do no work on this.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just not do work on this.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The way to figure out who, whether it's the master or the apprentice

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: is look up the age of the person who commented.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And if they are 90 years old then they are the apprentice.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking counter to them.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you got to get some young bug apprentices.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I tweeted out as a joke that we weren't recording

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: because I was filming the new Colin Travereau movie.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people took that seriously.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to clearly say that I would never work for Colin Travereau.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And I have no hesitation saying that publicly

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_01]: because I doubt that Colin Travereau will ever make a film

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_01]: that I want to be in.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind what bridges I burn publicly.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Travereau will never direct a film

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: that I have any interest in being part of the cast.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_02]: As we said, no bits.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_02]: No bits.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a sort of sub-theme in this podcast is Griffin just

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: ruining his career.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ruining my career.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He's burning it to the ground.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Straight just shit.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no allies anymore.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Vigidae.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Vigidae.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Avery Edison, our long time listener.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Avery Edison.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Tweeted out as complaining that we didn't have an episode

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and she said, I'm so angry at you are to accuse you

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: of being a Sith Lord but you seem to self aware for that.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I, oh, funny meme came up with a, I made a picture on my phone

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think I sent to you.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, of Yoda.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it was like a fake subway poster.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was Yoda and it said if you see something,

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: completely ignore it and never talk about it ever again

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever it is.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And that really does seem to be the way the Jedi's

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: function throughout this entire movie.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They clock it once.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They definitely clock it once and then they just disregard it.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they also seem to ignore all the, they're like,

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: oh there's a Sith Lord and they're pretty crazy.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're like, what about Count Dooku?

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Nah, he's probably fine.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's just an old, like,

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's an old Jedi.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He's an old Jedi.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he wouldn't do something evil.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He just broke off from the Jedi order and did his own thing.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And founded a huge army and chopped up Anakin's arm.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: But he wouldn't be a Sith Lord.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it just really inconvenient to have a Sith Lord?

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Also everyone who has ever left the Jedi order

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: has become a Sith Lord.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, like it's not like it's like,

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: and he had a kid with a woman.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You're just becoming a real estate agent.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want all the hullabaloo, the rat race, you know.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But is it like, yeah, is it like bed bugs

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: or something, you know, you're getting bites,

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but you just don't want to have bed bugs.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of it.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're just like, it's mosquito.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there is a spider in my room the other day.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about it.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Out of my control.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that bugs me is

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: there's constant scenes in all three movies

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: or at least the last two

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: of Yoda and Mace Windu just hanging out

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: in that dark room that they hang out.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: The little meditation room.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: This little office.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Do they never chat about this?

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Do they never, you know...

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They've been batting a couple of theories back and forth.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Also, like I understand George Lucas

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is trying to develop his own world with these three movies,

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: but the word younglings,

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: whenever it's said, just makes me...

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I can believe everything.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I can believe there's international space women

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to have sex with,

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: but not that the word youngling

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: isn't Carmen Perlant anywhere.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Carmen Perlant anyway.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Carmen Perlant.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Carmen Perlant.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Within the Phantom Menace universe.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's called.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's called Carmen Perlant.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That does sound like a song with characters.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Younglings sounds like...

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a predatory word.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a line in that Padme

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: says I think in episode three where it's something along the lines of

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: he got the younglings.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, how did you direct that scene?

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like how did you say...

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Just tell another human to say that

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were like, alright, sure,

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll cash this check.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure they must have just sprung

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_02]: in our last day of filming.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Natalie, we need one more thing.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: We actually, oh my god, just say it right now.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we got it. Let's go.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The toughest part from a directing standpoint

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: was that George Lucas had to CGI out the vomit

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: coming out of Natalie's mouth

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: as she delivered that line.

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: There was vomit just trickling from this corner of her mouth

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: as she said young...

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Padme.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Padme.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's our next episode.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Next episode we're going to talk about...

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to be focused.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to be raised our shock.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got six more episodes to get to.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: How are we going to do six more episodes?

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got a whole plan.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, god.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be four fan fiction episodes.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Glad I could get on board with.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Jedi Order.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There's the opening sequence.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They're fighting together, right?

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Then they come back.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Palpatine asks Anakin to be his representative.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So is division.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He's so division.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Goes to the Jedi.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: The Jedi's are like, we will not let you become a Jedi master,

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but we'll let you have a seat in the council,

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a real slap in the face.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Real dick move.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're also...

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But do spy on Palpatine for us, please.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So Anakin now starts spending a lot of time

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: with Palpatine, Buddy Buddy,

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: as we've talked about in previous episodes.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We've...

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Which sets the stage to now have the other Jedi's go,

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: what do we do?

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go, well that grievous guy.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, general grievous.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I just saw it and I always forget him.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I know, right?

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You always forget that guy.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I don't know, he's just not threatening to me.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_02]: No, because he's coughing.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's because he's a coughing robot.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we're going to talk about grievous a little bit.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We got to talk about grievous some more.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Because...

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I call him Lord Robotustin.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And also, like, I guess he's like...

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike didn't like that.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: No, Mike didn't like that.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I like it.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: God, I'm never going to fucking...

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That would have died in the writer's room.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But like, he's got like, I guess an alien head and the rest is droid.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is cool in theory, but you don't get any more from that.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You're just like always got like weird eyes.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got bits.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his backstory would have been fun.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Backstories, yeah.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it really named grievous?

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that just convenient?

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's very convenient.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is it like John Grievous?

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like a general...

[00:16:15] John Grievous.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: John William Grievous.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_02]: To introduce a coughing robot with no explanation.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And like, have that be his first scene and he's wearing a cloak.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's got a limb.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a limb.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so much business.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so much business.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he's like, hello, yeah.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He talks like Dracula.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I got like lightsabers.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like too many bits.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Too many bits in one character.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But think about it.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode one, he got Darth Maul.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He's so cool.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He's all, you know, he's got horns.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got like painted face.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Very intimidating.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Very intimidating.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Episode two, like your sort of sub villain, I guess is Django Fett.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Who has a jetpack?

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He's all right.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not bad.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And third one, they were like, we really, you know, we really need to cook up a good.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's sort of like a video game.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the sub boss.

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's your second from last boss.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Jedi killing robot.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: What is he?

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He spins lightsabers.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds cool.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Like when I heard all about this.

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It sounded so cool.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Then you see it and you're like, you're not really using that.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not using it and like he's just out.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little CGI blob that Obi-Wan sort of just jumps into.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we have a term we use coined by previous guest Morgan Evans for when the George Letts

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: the characters really go loose physically, which is when they start flubbering.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They just turn into flubbering.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: When you just have things moving around.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And part of the problem is he has two straight movies where an infirm old actor has to

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: do a lot of lightsaber flubbering.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so then they just flubber.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, look I went to the grievous wookie pd page because I think we do have enough questions

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: about the backstory I do want to see.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see where it really is.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_02]: We just, we go from the start of the Clone Wars to the robot armies led by a robot

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: cyborg in internal organs.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That we've never heard of before.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Who you've never heard of who's killed a bunch of Jedis apparently.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Or just four.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: In stolen their lightsabers at least four.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You're supposed to assume he's killed a lot but it could like he just started

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: this collection.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think, yeah do you think he was like, alright four at four arms so I'm going to stop

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: there.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It just seems like it's, it's, it's like the Jedi on one hand are like always aware

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: of everything but as soon as they turn their back to you they don't remember you're there.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_02]: This is exactly why this movie is so frustrating.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't have the Jedis be so all powerfully aware.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then have this movie happen right?

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They're, like, they're just, they're bad and also like when the five of them

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_02]: face Palpatine and suddenly none of them know how to use a lightsaber.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there's like they go to the rest.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, right.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And he just sort of dives right into it.

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he just dives right in and they're like oh yeah shit.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't expect this when we turned on our lightsabers.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And have been told this guy's a simplord.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we literally just found this out.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay so this is a really big bummer and I, it's way too long so I'm just going

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: to breeze over some of this.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Really just bite sized jokes with this.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But he was like an organic alien creature.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay cool.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I have a picture of him here.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like sort of like a tribal, like an Amazonian tribal warrior.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Sort of half ass.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a mask that looks kind of like the grievous robot mask now.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's like humanoid in structure and he was on this primitive planet where

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: they were these Kakarot aliens or these pregmanus aliens.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Pregmanus aliens.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That is a pregmanus alien my friend.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Constantly attacking them.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He had a weird amount of anger that everyone always commented upon.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh this, this boy, what's his, his original name was.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He sure is grievous.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, well, his original name was Quamen Jai Shalal.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, two Jewish.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He had to change it for Shobis.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Change it for Shobis.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Two ethnic.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But he, everyone was like you're too angry.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You should funnel this anger into something productive like fighting off

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: these pregmanus that attack.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He became very good at fighting them off.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But everyone was always worried about his anger.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He met a woman.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He fell in love.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: She died, was taken from him.

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh come on now.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh jeez.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, the two of them were separated.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She died violently on a barb shear by the creature.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Shalal did what he could to bury, this is the relevant paragraph.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: A barb.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the relevant paragraph I'm going to read.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Shalal did what he could to bury his grief.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Shalal.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: To bury his grief.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He ended up taking 10 wives and siring 30 children.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But none of them, spouse or child, seemed to be able to fill the void

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Kumar's death had left in him.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Kumar his wife?

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_02]: His ex-wife, yeah.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually he realized that it was his destiny to mourn her for as long as he lived

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: with this realization, queem and jai Shalal cast off his own identity

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: adopting a name more appropriate to being destined to grieve forever

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and even more terribly who was determined that he would not do so alone

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_01]: he would be grievous as well as heartbroken for the rest of his life.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait is he like, is he a real general or was...

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess he was later promoted to general.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was later promoted to general.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He was then later fighting in a ship and the ship was bombed

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and he was blown up and they rebuilt him for a VSI postcard.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like this 6 million dollar man.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay cool.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He also has the exact same fucking arkezanakin.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a young boy that everyone said had too much anger.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He fell in love with someone.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That one bad.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: That love led to his own insecurity.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, changed his name to something crazy.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then was rebuilt as a robot person.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think Darth Vader is going to take 10 wives.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a wrinkle.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't either. It's 30 children.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine also like, who's your dad?

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the guy who named himself Grievous.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Screaming Jay Hawkins have like 100 kids.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know Geno Grievous?

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's my dad.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: He's my dad but he really never got over some other lady.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Not my mom.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Is he a good dad?

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Well it's like sometimes I feel like he is.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well the fr...

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He's good at fathering people.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's a good father.

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, I have nine stepmothers.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 wives, 30 children, none of them were able to fill the hole.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine just being like the 28th kid and turning five and him going like,

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: nah this is not going to cut it either.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I really thought you could be...

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Grievous sucks.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a shitty character.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It says here he smokes two packs a day.

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you serious?

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Step six?

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure you're not reading your own Wikipedia, Ben?

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, got me.

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he really? Is that what it says?

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I just think that's making a shit up.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben never reads anything on Wikipedia.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Remind you in the Phantom Man...

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a sane man.

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben checks his email when we're recording.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I remind you, Ben, that cigarettes do not exist in the Phantom Manus universe.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Only death sticks.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, death sticks.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry guys.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: The guy in the bar and Attack of the Clones.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: A Lancelis Bagano, part of my Holy Trinity of favorite characters from Attack of the Clones

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: which brings me to the only character I like in Revenge of the Sith.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You like a character in Revenge of the Sith?

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I previously disregarded your suggestion that this character could be my favorite character

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_01]: because I said it was too general but I found out there's a full Wikipedia entry on them as well.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Obi-Wan follows the lead to the planet where...

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What the hell is the planet called actually? Where he's hanging out?

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Sort of the jungle planet but it's like a big hole, right?

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like the whole planet, the whole city, it's like someone drilled a big hole in the ground

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's sort of like there's like a Guggenheim level, you know,

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: where there's all these sort of spiraling sub-levels.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not Kashyyyk.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it Utipa?

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It might be something like that.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We're all bummed out just saying these names.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Tian Midan.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We're bummed out that we know these names.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Tian Midan.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's that?

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Who is the tall dude with the slits on his face and the sharp teeth.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, with the sort of high collar.

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's played by Bruce Spence.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: This guy.

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Bruce Spence who is the gyrocopter pilot in The Road Warrior.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's like a fucking awesome...

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you expected us to go,

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow!

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's like a cool fucking Australian.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Well because this movie was shot in Australia.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a cool fucking actor.

[00:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: He was the mouth of Sauron in Return of the King.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He was one of the side sharks and finding Nemo.

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you were right.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Utapatu.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Utapao.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Utapao.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey now.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Utapao?

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: How long did George spend on that name?

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm not trying to be childish here.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to grow up on this podcast.

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes I really do think that George just recorded the sounds of himself pooping

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and then named things after the sounds that the poop made when it hit the water.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Utapao.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Kashyyyk.

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Most words in this universe sound like diarrhea sounds.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_02]: How many why's there in the name Kashyyyk?

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: All the why's, just put all the why's you got in there.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah if there were a bowel, just make it a why.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Make it a why.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Make it a why.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to Tion Midon and he's like,

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey I'm looking for Grievous.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And Tion Midon's like no Grievous here.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like because there's this war going on he's like no war here,

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_01]: no Grievous.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't know what you're talking about.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like do you mind if I use the bathroom quickly?

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And Tion Midon's like sure use the bathroom hold on.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I just have one thing to tell you,

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a ton of war going on here Grievous is right.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Grievous is literally downstairs.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Right but he like leans in and speaks in a quieter voice

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but not that quiet a voice.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_01]: We're like I don't understand how anyone who was spying on them

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: because then they cut to the balcony

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's like a balcony that's like maybe 100 feet away

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_01]: where one of Grievous' like Magna guards is spying on them.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like oh he didn't raise any suspicion

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: when Obi-Wan was there.

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I understand what you're saying.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's stupid.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever dumb dumb.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like you gotta you gotta

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Grievous is here.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Please kill General Grievous.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He is in room A14.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He's in conference room A14.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He is here.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah anyway.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He's giving a lecture.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Am I right this planet's like the Guggenheim.

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a weird tube in the ground.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I also think for a series of films that are

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: that are hyper titled Star Wars

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Georgie Porgy understands what a war is

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_01]: because like anytime a war is brought up in this movie

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like no there's a ton of war on this planet.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You see the planet it just looks like a museum.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's like no battle happening.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Well the other thing is the movie's called Star Wars

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like oh shit we're at the clone wars

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: at the end of Attack of the Clones right.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright this is gonna be awesome we're gonna see all this war

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and then we cut to like 10 years later it's like

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: well the war's over.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: We just finished the war.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: War and with that.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and the way the war breaks out at the end

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: of Attack of the Clones is like if they called in cops

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: to mediate a boxing match that got out of hand

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it turned into a war.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They send in the clones because there's a bad arena battle happening

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and then within 13 seconds it's a full on war.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah within 13 seconds people being loaded into ships.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yo who's your favorite character?

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Tiamidon because hey you want to help find Grievous?

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Jump on that thing right there and it is

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Boga!

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's a Dactyl, a very Dactyl.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay yeah I thought it was a Dactyl.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been speaking for the last couple weeks.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Veractyl from Utapau.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It looks like an Iguana right?

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big Iguana.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big Iguana.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan rides it around in some of the worst

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: most spectacularly bad CGI right?

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It also like it just feels like they're like

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: oh we could do this so let's make the scene

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: with no real purpose to it.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's kind of like should Obi-Wan just walk over there?

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Nah!

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get an Iguana!

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah!

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Why did he write a giant lizard?

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone was like sure George.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_02]: There might as well be people like carrying plate glass

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and like that he could smash through it.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I mean it's that sort of like unnecessarily silly.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It also feels like the movie was made with less enthusiasm.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The movies were made increasingly less enthusiasm.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Like one is weird but fun.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Two is terrible but trying to do interesting things.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And then this one's just like I don't know what a lizard is bad.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like at least in two you had like a wacky bounty hunter.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_02]: You had like that fat dude who owned a diner.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Dexter Jester.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Part two of my holy trinity.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you're hitting all of Griffin's favorite.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah we see very similarly.

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if you can get the third guy in Attack of the Clint.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember who it is.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to remember who it is.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh it's the returning character from Phantom Menace.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh Waddo?

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Waddo again.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Waddo plus Hattany?

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah my holy trinity from Phantom Menace is Waddo.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not in this one.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Is Waddo, Boss, Nass and Tarples.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's who you like in this one?

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: No in Phantom Menace that was my holy trinity right?

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Waddo, Boss, Nass and Tarples.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But then there was TC14.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah I love TC14.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god Mike how do we not get you on your scene?

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike you really should have been on this podcast from the beginning.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You're birds of a feather.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I just heard Boga's entire work of pete entry and there is nothing of interest in there.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But because you had said maybe that's your favorite character and I said I don't think

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: because I don't think it's a defined character I think it's just part of a species.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: How's the name though?

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Boga and she's female and she's the fastest on the planet and that's all they have to say about her.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing it says is that Obi-Wan leaves her for dead because he assumes that she dies

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: but she dies and she goes on to live a long life.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: She falls?

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but she survives the fall it says.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_02]: She goes on to live a long life like does she have kids or?

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah probably some iguana babies.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_02]: She has 10 husbands.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: She has 10 husbands, 30 children but none of them replace the part of her heart that Obi-Wan held.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Does Obi-Wan just kind of randomly jump on her or is she like given to him I can't remember.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Tiametons like go jump on Boga.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_02]: We have this lizard.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: She's the fastest on the planet.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's a big imposition to ask you to kill General Frivolous

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: but maybe if you jumped on this iguana.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Like sweet in the deal.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You can ride my lizard, you don't even have to give it back it's cool.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Let it fall as far as you want.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It'll live a long life.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite section of the movie.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you why.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Although I can't name another section that I really prefer.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I have no favorite section of this one.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: No this is why and I liked it.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say a lot less this time than the first time re-watching it.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Now this fourth re-watch or whatever it is.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's my favorite section of the movie because it's fucking silly.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It is very silly.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And you and McGregor is playing it up.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He's doing like a sort of Errol Flynn old timey swashbuckler.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Like really broad.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And the rest of this movie is so late in and like fucking just self serious and everything.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like you know we talked.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Except for the opera house scene.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Except for the opera house scene.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about how fucking funny Phantom Menace is.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And how much we're missing those wall to wall laughs in this movie.

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't make comedy but if you're doing it in a way that's set in space.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not and everything CGI you can create anything you want.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Why not have a fucking dude on a lizard chasing a coughing robot on a one wheeled bike.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's too much stuff.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: No just no.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so much stuff.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying maybe he should have that much stuff.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well like the original you know look at the original movie like they're actually on a set.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know there's CG windows.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: There's CG windows and everything but you know.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's clean.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's clean but you can actually see sets where as all the CG you can tell that nothing's

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: actually happening.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's blur on blur on blur.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Like Darth Maul is a real person.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean not a real person.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But he is.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_02]: He's real person.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He's real person.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know where Rivas is just a CG villain.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah who voiced him?

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Some guy.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It was the sound guy.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Matthew Wood who was the sound engineer.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Because Gary Oldman was supposed to do it and then he couldn't do it.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So they were just like I don't know you do it.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Just get some guy make him cough.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you do like a dracula voice?

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: All right great.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is you know.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Kid note B.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And this really feels like a movie that was directed 50% by a special effects team

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: left entirely their own devices.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And George has said as much in like behind the scenes stuff that he like for these

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: big action sequences wrote a sentence that's like Obi-Wan chases Grievous down a hall

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and then was like you come up with whatever you want.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Great writing.

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah like 15 minutes of visuals.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know when people say show don't tell they don't mean don't tell anything.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't mean show and keep secrets.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Just show some shit and just do that.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It is literally that.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean yeah there's yeah I don't know it's a business give us some business.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We need some business now.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a businessy movie.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So Obi-Wan rides Boga up to the rafters right?

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like in a theater.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Watching the council of all the bad guys.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah as you do.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and Grievous is going like go to Mustafa and meet you there.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Then Obi-Wan jumps off a Boga drops down like very theatrically like yeah.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This part is actually okay where you and McGregor is kind of like you know he's

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: sort of doing all these like stances and he's being like I'm gonna kill you you

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: motherfucker you know like essentially right.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a Jedi and Grievous is like well I was trained by a Jedi who cares that dude

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: dooku so just as good throws off his cape reveals it is four arms yeah.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of split apart yeah yeah yeah right so they look pretty weak because

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: like each arm is technically half of an arm.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they're yeah yeah.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's like split string cheese.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's also just that annoying thing where they're like like look at this toy see

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_02]: like move all of his arms you know it's just a little much.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You could just see the push button.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they all split up.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: They're also given no time to be afraid of it you're not you don't see him

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: use it like against other Jedi before in the movie.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very good point you know where you're like oh shit this thing exists

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you're like alright he's got this other thing now.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just him saying like see I got lightsabers from other people.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Unseen like the only other time we've seen Grievous is when he captured

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan and Anakin at the start of the movie and they immediately just

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: take their lightsabers back and yeah.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And he wasn't really fighting that much.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: He's just coughing.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's running after him shooting his blaster a little bit but he wasn't

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: like a fucking physical acrobatic guy.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and not to mention that he's so run down.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You see he's coughing he's hunched over.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The second he throws his cape off suddenly he has the most mobility

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: any character has ever had in any film.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so he splits off he's got four lightsabers.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he kind of spins them.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Obi-Wan does not win this fight.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I know that yes Obi-Wan wins this fight.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I know this is a sci-fi movie I know we have to suspend our disbelief.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Grievous takes the fucking four arms and starts spinning them at like full

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_01]: speed like 500 miles per hour.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's just got like two windmills going on either side.

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_01]: All he has to do is walk close to Obi-Wan.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And Obi-Wan is dead and instead Lucas lets Obi-Wan slowly beat

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: him one arm at a time.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like his forearms are spinning so fast and then he

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_01]: just goes like one hand done and then like makes a pithy remark

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and then like second hand done.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No absolutely not.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You just think it's not plausible?

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I mean to Mike's point from earlier his fighting is less precise

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: than it was in Phantom Menace when he was fighting one guy with two blades.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's because that guy was played by a person.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And they could figure out like stunts together.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the problem.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that is the problem.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But Obi-Wan's just kind of standing still.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what was Grievous?

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like you know with Jar Jar like Ahmed Best was like in a suit right?

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: He was like was there a guy there?

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's he fighting?

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they just had like a tennis ball on a stick and they were like alright

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll swing his arms like crazy.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It really doesn't feel like he has specific things.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all after the fact.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah all the lightsaber stuff in this one.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just I mean not yeah Obi-Wan versus Anakin I think you know

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: they got some stuff done there right?

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of fashion away but apart from that.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah cause it was two real people.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah well they were animated after the fact.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like when you know when Sidious like kills the pterodactyl guy or whatever

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the pterodactyl guy doesn't know that it doesn't make any carry it.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He's taking him down one hand at a time right?

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay which really feels like a video game where it's like

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the boss level, you have to target him in one arm.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah weak spot weak spot weak spot.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And then when he's down to I don't know two arms one arm whatever he's got left

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Grievous like does this thing where he flips back and then turns into a scorpion?

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_01]: This happens so quickly that it barely registers.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And again you have no reason to know this is going to happen

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_02]: so it doesn't have an effect on you when it does.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But he becomes Scorponok from Transformers like his body completely recalibrates

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_01]: where then his head is at the front and his legs are over his head

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and his arms are like tentacles crawling on the floor.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not really fair.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I don't think he has to be universe wise.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: No but it's just kind of annoying.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of annoying.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But like where's that cough?

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Where's this?

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when we first see him and he's coughing and he's so feeble

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: he wasn't putting on like a fake show

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: he wasn't pulling like a Gene Wilder like walking out with a limp

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to then roll over and do this

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: because he's limping and coughing in front of his co-workers

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's just like don't let the Jedi's in

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and then suddenly he's got four arms

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: he can transform into different animals like

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe like the tragedy of General Grievous is

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_02]: he only feels good when he's fighting.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Reading into the backstory there I like it.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That was his real love all along.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Well anyway he dies.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He dies.

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about the shitty way where

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_02]: which really bugs me because he got Obi-Wan here

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a Jedi master, he's a blue lightsaber

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_02]: he kills people with it, he chops them into little pieces

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_02]: as he dies here he picks up like a blaster

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_02]: he opens Grievous' thing with his literal,

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like with his hands.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He sees that Grievous has organic matters.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He sees he has a heart so what does he do?

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He shoots it dead.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: We all know if you shoot a heart it blows up like a bomb

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that your entire body catches on fire and you explore.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And like fire pours out of your eyes.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so he sees the heart and then has that realization.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I just hate that he's like ha ha I've got you

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just pick this up right here and there you go.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it might even be Grievous' blaster

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: that he dropped early.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so lame.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So stupid.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Ugh, I hate this movie.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: To your point not only was there like

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: This is your favorite scene?

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No the part where he's riding Boog is my favorite.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Specifically it's when he's the chase.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I like the chase.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's just goofy.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just goofy.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very goofy.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a welcome reprieve from the soul-crushing

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: devastation and just boring bullshit of this other.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Can we also talk about Order 66?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting there.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting there.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting there.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to point out merchandise spotlight,

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: quick merchandise spotlight to your point.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Very quick, very quick.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Go on.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_01]: General Grievous as you correctly predicted

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: not only had like a regular action figure with the cape

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and a firing blaster,

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but also had one with the arms that split apart.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The arms, yep.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Also had one where the arms rotated

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and separately had a battle defeat,

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_01]: final battle General Grievous

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_01]: where he was covered in fire

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and if you push the button he exploded.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So it really did feel like they designed General Grievous

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to have as many different action features as possible

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: to split him into separate characters.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole merchandise spotlight.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Ugh!

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not your favorite segment.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's okay.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Order 66 though.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we have to get to one thing before that.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah?

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the parallel plot line that is happening

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: with Yoda at this time.

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The incredibly memorable parallel plot line.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a Jedi Council meeting

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: where Kaedeemundi is a hologram.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Kaedeemundi is the penis head, you know.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like an Easter Island.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's saying like, you know...

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know Kaedeemundi?

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We're all friends here.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We're all friends here with Kaedeemundi.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, hey, shit's going crazy.

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: These planets are getting out of control.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to take care of them.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, I don't know.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: There are only so many of us.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: There are only so many places at so many times.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoda is like, I've got to go to Kashyyyk.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Ugh!

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like what?

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, it's an important...

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe Obi-Wan says it's important.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, if we lose Kashyyyk,

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: things are going to be tough.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But this planet we've never heard of before?

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's never brought up anywhere.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But he makes it a point.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I know we don't have time

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to save all these planets.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But Kashyyyk is really holding the whole thing together.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoda's like, I have a long history with Kashyyyk.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I go way back with them.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me go stop.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Never heard of it before?

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Never heard of it before.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like if you had like a romantic comedy

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're like, you can't get married.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Steven's here.

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like that character is new to this movie.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We are 70 minutes in and you just introduced this guy.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like why do I care about Kashyyyk?

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like if you made a movie where the dude

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: who shows up in the wedding to interrupt it...

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean!

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't introduced until...

[00:40:21] Yeah.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Will Pullman suddenly appears.

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: We need to go to Kashyyyk.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Is Yoda going with like, what's the help of adding Yoda?

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Is he bringing clone troopers with him?

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the idea?

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think he wants to get like the big furry dudes

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_02]: to join the clone troopers.

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Good relations with the wookies I have

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: or something like that.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Which you don't know anything about.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't even talk I don't think.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And I wish people rolled their eyes.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I wish the other Jedi were like,

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck it.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well there is the scene where they're in the gunship

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's Obi-Wan, I think Mace Windu and Yoda

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's like they're each making separate stops.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They drop Obi-Wan off at Utapow

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and they give us a call if you need to ride back

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and Yoda's taking the ship the rest of the way

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_01]: over to Kashyyyk.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's the part where they're talking about Anakin

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and like you know saying like,

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of anger this and that.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think we should do about him?

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Is Balahama with public?

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever the fucking conversation is

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: this repetitive conversation.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And they go, but isn't he the chosen one?

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean don't we believe he's going to bring

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: balance to the force?

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoda like runs his hands through his hair.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This very odd shot where he runs his hands

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: through his wisp of hair

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and then he just goes,

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Miss read the prophecy we made of?

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like what?

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I don't know it's possible

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: we miss read the prophecy.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Bring balance, destroy, who knows what it is.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's been brought up

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm sure it's been talked about a million times

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_02]: but how do you not say bring balance

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: when there's two bad guys

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and a billion good guys?

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_02]: How do you not go like let's not do this balance shit?

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's already imbalanced.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's like you're supposed to bring

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_02]: like when Obi-Wan's yelling,

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I know you've talked about the fall out.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But when Obi-Wan's yelling at him

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: he's like you're going to be the,

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_02]: you're supposed to bring balance, he did.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He did.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He did, he did his job.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But suddenly like it's like these three movies

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: been sent around like this kid's got all this power

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: he's chosen one, he's got all this anger

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: we don't know what to trust him

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and Yoda's suddenly like yeah but also that

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: prophecy thing might have been bullshit.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It might have been based off of false premise.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's they suck.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Miss read we may have.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean there are, if we didn't see the

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_02]: formation of a clone army coming

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: our powers really are, you know they're always

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_02]: saying things like that.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're probably screwed.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It used to be much more powerful.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You know someone's going around

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: deleting planets from the Jedi archives

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_02]: no one's looking into that.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you know there's so much shit going on

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that they're just not on top of.

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So Yoda gets dropped off at Kashyyyk

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: with a bunch of his clone trooper bodies.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the suckiest thing in the world.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_01]: A battle ensues.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's like they go like and now we fight

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and then there's a shot of

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_02]: some some wookiees going.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Tarpaul standing on top of a thing

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and holding his arms.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Tarful.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Tarful, sorry.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Tarpaul's is the Gungan.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I know.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: My two favorite generals.

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Tarpaul is like holding his arms

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: in the air at stretch and you're like

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: oh shit crazy battle.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of business for like 35 seconds

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and then there's a white bed.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Like in the middle of the war.

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Swinging and like in trees and shit.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They literally do a Tarzan roar at one point.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they do a Tarzan roar.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And it has no effect on anything.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just not, it's characters we don't know

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: fighting each other.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a weird reverse D-Day

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_02]: like the robots are on the beach or something.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: There's like a beach involved.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh there's a lot of beach involved

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and like the wookiees are valiantly fighting back.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like this is the first army we've seen

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that seems to have been able to hold their own

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_01]: against the droid army.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they're droids, they suck.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And they have like wooden weapons.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_02]: The Gungans beat them.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They're beating them with like wooden weapons and vines.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Then Yoda like says some shit like

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_02]: you'll always be my best friend Chewbacca

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_02]: in Tarpaul and I'm like who are you?

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we've just met you.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We just met you.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Chewbacca, I didn't even notice

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: this fucking Chewbacca asshole until

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like the third time we were watching it.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause Tarful's the dude he keeps on talking to.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Tarful's got this majestic like armor on his helmet.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a helmet, he's got a lot of stuff.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And you see him leading action.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Chewbacca is just a dude standing behind him.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a bandolier.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like Tarful's like handmaiden or something.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the end like they're giving Yoda

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: an escape pod to escape from.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda essentially just watches this battle right?

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah what help is he providing?

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Very little.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Little to nothing.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It'd be kind of cool to see Yoda

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of popping around with his lightsaber

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: you know just slicing things up.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: There's one thing where you see him stab a clone trooper

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and oh no that's earlier in the movie.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Not a clone trooper that'd be a mess.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no does that happen after?

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know whatever.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, doesn't matter.

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Stupid movie doesn't matter.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I know what you're talking about.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He cuts off the heads of two clone troopers

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_02]: when Order 66.

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Order 66 is all.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause he's the only Jedi who can fucking turn around.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he sees it coming around.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He senses it.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He goes like oh.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like oh yeah but they're Jedi.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: They should all fucking know they know.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They're Jedi.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We have seen them in previous movies

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like shit will happen in another room.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: In another part of a ship.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And they will go whoa, whoa, whoa, what's that?

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: What's that?

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Not to mention the traditional thing is

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: that when a Jedi is born

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_01]: a child is born with force anywhere in the galaxy

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01]: the Jedi Council can feel it.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Can feel the birth and immediately go out

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and see that first.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And when all the Jedi's die

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda has like a stroke practically.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He drops his cane.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He drops his cane.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But so this moment where they give him

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the escape pod.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They make it out of war.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They make it out of this two hour war alive.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they find a escape pod for Yoda

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and they go whoa.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoda goes like thank you Tarfall.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You're my best friend.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Tarfall he just goes like Tarfall.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he gives him like a little nod.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He goes like Tarfall.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like a little nod

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and he turns to Chewbacca and he goes like

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and Chewbacca thank you so much

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I will never forget you.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's like Tarfall's right there.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's only two guys.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know any of these characters.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Who the fuck is Chewbacca?

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This guy has done nothing.

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Also like get out of there.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Get out of there.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The Jedi's are being exterminated.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't need like oh and Chewbacca

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: like here I got you this espresso set.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing so you know.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously call me anytime

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where I'm going to be living

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_02]: because apparently the Jedi temple is on fire.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine now has full power.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He executes order 66.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay so we're going to talk about order 66.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Right which is kill all the Jedi.

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's I mean I think Mike wants to say something about it.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we've covered a lot of it.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I just I don't understand it.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I also don't understand like is it like

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_02]: some genetically implanted thing.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they have a sleeper agent or they just like dicks

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're like alright kill the Jedi now.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a Manchurian candidate thing right.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they just have to hear the words order 66.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking like a reverse Robocop

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_02]: like Directive 4.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah right they have to yeah.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Now here's my question.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Do they have to hear it from Palpatine?

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah because they all have it like another guy

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: popping up on the little communicator.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Also does he have to call all of them?

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking that.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: One by one there's no group text he can use.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright let's say now it's a commander.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What's this guy?

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Commander Timmy alright.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: There we go.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Just start a fucking Facebook thread or something.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Also are there guys that didn't hear it?

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah just what about the thing.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Which one?

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they gotta be like the club troopers

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: who just like they're like in the bathroom

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: when it was called and they come up

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: like what the fuck are we doing?

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: One guy was at lunch and he turned his calmly call.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like I'm just gonna give myself a break.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No but he calls this thing right.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's after Palpatine's been revealed.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_02]: After he's taken down Mace Windu.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: After he's denited Anakin Darkfader

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's all lobby.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like the influence from Dick Tracy.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And he says you know the Jedi's out of control

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: lead the Republic whatever.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Execute order 66.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean to your point it feels like

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: these clone troopers have been working alongside the Jedi.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them seem to become friends.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh people in those couple of them by name.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Commander Cody.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah hey Cody how you doing Cody?

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Cody what's up yeah.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But the second he gives them the order

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't feel like a Manchurian Candidate thing

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: where they like switch on and start following commands.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They go like sure yeah yeah.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah got it cool.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah no if that's what you tell us to do yeah.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And they just start murdering every Jedi.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and we see it like like there's one who

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: shoots a Jedi's ship down right.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple where it's like yeah

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_02]: there's like two clone troopers and they just

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: shoot a Jedi in the back.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Like two or three guys.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a point where they go to back to

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_01]: excuse me the Jedi Council

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and like half of the council is holograms

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and so you're like oh they're all fucking split up.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they're all over the Clone Wars.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like all of them were pulling a Yoda

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and picking one planet they like

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah and decided to fight alongside them.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like this really sad montage

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: very dramatic swelling strings

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: of one by one like Heidi Mundy is like

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey follow me and he runs ahead they don't

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: follow him and they shoot him.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like what?

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That one's a little sad.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_02]: That one's a little brutal.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Aw man.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause he's kind of got a face.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know some of them don't really have human faces

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: so you're kind of like whatever.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's got a real sad face.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't find this whole sequence sad

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_01]: seeing all these characters who have been so well

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: developed over three movies who we love

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and know so intimately.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Dai you weren't deeply emotionally affected

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: by watching Adigalia.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand how like

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_02]: as a society I feel like

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that's almost like if you like

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: shot down all the FBI agents and people are like

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_02]: alright he's our leader now I guess.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we just live in a world where all cops are dead.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean like he declares himself the emperor

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and then people are cool with it.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they just applaud.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like alright great great you look fine

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_02]: you look great.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're telling me we had two armies

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and then one of the armies killed the other army

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but we're doing better as a result that's what

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you're telling me.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And you are now our leader got it.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Of the two armies you pick the clones

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: not the like space wizards those guys

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: seemed really on top of shit.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Also nobody gets weirded out when he says

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_02]: they're changing it to a galactic empire

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: which feels just like.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I know yeah what if like.

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what's like this is gonna be a

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Galactic Empire now.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: The United States of Evil.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the new name of this country.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be like great he's got direction.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I like it I like it he's got a plan.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh his face is all scarred.

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Something bad must happen to him.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh but that only could be by accident.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Not of his own doing.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like when Bane in the

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: crappy Dark Knight movie.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Comes out and he's like

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_02]: uh you know commissioner Gordon lied to

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_02]: you he said it on this piece of paper I

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: have here which I will not show to

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: anyone.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's like oh.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate commissioner Gordon.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway having produced a piece of paper.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been referring to it as a Jedi

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Holocaust.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We got an email from a listener named

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Brandon Bernstein who suggested we call

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_01]: it a Jedi side instead because

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a Jedi genocide.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is like you think about

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: you know something like not to invoke

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: George Lucas' favorite subject clearly

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: something like 9-11 and how hard it was

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and still for our nation to recover

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: from the tragedy of that many people

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_01]: dying at once right.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was a totally random

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_01]: cross-section of people.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Something like the Holocaust where it

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: was like all the Jews are gone

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: was like well this is a hate crime.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's targeted.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's targeted.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The Jedi's are this even weirder thing

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: because they're not only like is it a

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: hate crime but they're also the people

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that we entrusted to protect us in

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_01]: this galaxy.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also like everyone with one

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_02]: particular job what if it was like

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_02]: let's kill every garbage man in

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: America.

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Their power has gone unchecked long

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_02]: enough.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Right everyone would be so fucking

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: freaked out.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be crazy.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like even if it was a garbage man

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: people would just be like it would

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_01]: take them years to recover.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: No one would ever be a garbage man again.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: No one would ever want to do that.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But secondly if they were the guys

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: who were kind of your space cops.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like for them to just so openly be

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: like okay whatever Palpatine says

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_01]: is nuts.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's bananas.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Bananas.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's also like such a sad thing

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: to be like hey I built this great

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: world you know the coolest part

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: of it the Jedi.

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_02]: None of them anymore.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No more.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah we can't have those guys.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: That thing that you specifically

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_02]: liked about my science fiction

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: universe.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Too much fun.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Too much fun.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So who survives?

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda and Obi-Wan.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda survives by chopping off

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_02]: some clone heads.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and then well then he fights

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Palpatine.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He gets back to the Jedi.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine they throw a bunch of

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_02]: pogs at each other.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Basically.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They sort of have a pog fight.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he essentially just

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: retires.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah then he's like I messed up

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I really messed up.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't defeated but I also

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't conclusively win the battle.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I should just leave.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you guys hide me.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he just goes.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And so Obi-Wan survives.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he on Uta?

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: No he goes to Tatooine.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The two of them are on fucking

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Alderaan.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Alderaan.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Organa's planet.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh okay.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember it.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the guys that takes

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_02]: one of the babies.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no Jimmy Smith.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Right Jimmy Smith.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I know from Jimmy Smith.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like the moon.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like lunar cavities with

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: little bubbles on it.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like our Earth Moon.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And they are because he fucking

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_01]: George Lucas's son.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he gets killed.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Saves Jimmy Smith.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: The little kid is George Lucas's son.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: No for a character we've never seen before.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He teams up with Yoda and Obi-Wan.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: They go back to his home planet.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like what should

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: we do about this?

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like well we definitely

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: shouldn't be Jedi's anymore.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Number one let's just stop being

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Jedi's because that's not a cool

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: thing to be anymore apparently.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Number two I have a great plan

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: for the two Jedi kids that just

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_02]: got born Anakin's kids.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_01]: One should be taken to

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin's home.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Never look there.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_01]: This might be next episode stuff.

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This might be next episode stuff.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying bad Jedi

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_02]: planning does not die with the

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Jedi Holocaust.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh of course not.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_02]: They stick to the bad plans.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but Organa is like

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: why don't you go to Tatooine

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_01]: where Anakin's relatives live?

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And by Anakin's relatives he

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_02]: means his only living relative.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_02]: His step brother and his wife.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Right so it's his step brother and

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: wife.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a weird place to drop off.

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Through the step father he met

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_01]: only after one time.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: His mother had been kidnapped from

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the father.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He never, he didn't even see them

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: together as a family unit.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's basically the second owner

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: of his mother who then married

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: her.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: His kids.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Although maybe that's a great

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: place to snatch like a baby to

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_02]: be like alright who would you

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: never go to see?

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh your step brother you met

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: once.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a bad memory.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a bad memory but like

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: who gives a shit?

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't gotta keep up.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of fun to imagine just

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_02]: like robot Darth Vader showing

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: him being like hi like

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: getting dinner with them and

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: being like so how are things

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_02]: at the moisture farm.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy but you didn't even

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: recognize it.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You look so different than the

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_01]: last time we saw it.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You look crazy different.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Has anyone told you this?

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You're unrecognizable.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I went through a thing on

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Mustapha.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh it was real bad.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: It was real bad.

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Trust me you do not want me to

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_02]: take this mask off.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright not at dinner.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This is delicious Barrel.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a dirty.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Brew is a good chef.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah Obi-Wan goes to

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Tatooine and Yoda goes

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_01]: somewhere.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He just goes off.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He leaves.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He gets in the ship and leaves.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll hide but they have one

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: final conversation.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that I think it's

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: a little before when they're

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_01]: traveling.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I really wanted to get to

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: this because it's hysterical.

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_01]: This is an important

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_01]: conversation.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's literally they're like

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_02]: okay so what happened today?

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't kill any of our enemies.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine took over the galaxy.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_02]: All the Jedis were exterminated.

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That kid you were training was

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: instrumental.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: The kid you were training has

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: turned into a homicidal maniac.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And oh I forgot to tell you.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_02]: One crazy thing that came up

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: today.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember Qui-Gon.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember that guy who

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_00]: was your master?

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You remember Qui-Gon Jinn?

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like Obi-Wan Gintosh.

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I recently heard from him.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe I didn't tell you this.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Obi-Wan's like oh god he's going

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_01]: senile.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Qui-Gon's dead.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't remember.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like when your grandma calls

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: out for the daughter who died

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: 10 years earlier.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Qui-Gon figured out how to

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_02]: turn into a spirit or something.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He figured out how to transcend

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: death by becoming part of the

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: force or something like that.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Good news.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I got you a workbook.

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I want you to look at it while

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_02]: you're hiding.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have a lot of

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_02]: free time.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Also good news.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole reason fucking the

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: entire like Galactic Republic

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: took over and the Jedi's

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_01]: fell and whatever was because

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Palpatine prayed on Anakin's

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: insecurity about not being able to

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: skirt death.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile Yoda knew the whole

[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_01]: time he was like oh no the Jedi

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: figured out how to skirt death.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah yeah yeah FYI.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: FYI.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you can just come back.

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_01]: He could have just shared that

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_01]: information and none of this

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: movie would have happened.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But then everybody's skirt

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_02]: death and that's true.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So Yoda says yeah everyone's

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_02]: it's real preposterous.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a bad sin.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda says to him he's like

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: while you're hanging on Tatooine

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: for the rest of your life.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_01]: If you could do me a favor and

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: study how to

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_01]: transcend death.

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's the most annoying

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_02]: tossed off like grand idea.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's like Qui-Gon has

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_01]: figured it out but he didn't

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_01]: explain it to me.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're gonna be alone

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: on a desert planet for 30

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_01]: years maybe just try to talk to

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_01]: that ghost and figure out what's

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_01]: going on.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And I heard there was a plan to

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_02]: bring Liam Neeson back for this

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and that didn't work or something.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Like there were originally concepts

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: that maybe Liam Neeson was gonna

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: show up in this movie.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He was probably busy that weekend.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Probably had to pick up his lung.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Lucasfilm?

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Never heard of you.

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean again all this cool

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: shit is just brought up right

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_02]: at the end of this movie.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You have giant like nine foot

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_02]: tall hairy things.

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Five minutes you have the

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: ability to transcend death not

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_02]: in this movie.

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Like what why do you bring

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_02]: these things up?

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_02]: And who triumphs at the end

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_02]: of this movie?

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_02]: The cartoon clone trooper guys

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_02]: who are like you just lame

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and they all look the same

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and they wear yeah those are

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_02]: the guys who win.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like if you had a murder

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_02]: mystery and you put a gun in the

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: drawer at the end of the plan

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and went next play that's gonna

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_02]: be pretty good.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see something happen

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_00]: this play.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We should call that the

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Lucas's gun theory of drama.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the Lucas's gun

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: theory.

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That is totally right.

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Put a gun in a drawer and

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_01]: reference the fact that it's

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_01]: there.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Did Lucas just read about that

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and was like no I'm gonna

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_02]: make three movies.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I knocked over a grip in

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man Water.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how angry David's getting

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_02]: right now.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Three movies that set up all

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_02]: kinds of stuff.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Are they gonna pay off?

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely not.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll get a coughing

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_02]: robot thing.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy wow I'm actually

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_02]: worked out.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good thing we took

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_01]: last week off because we

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_01]: needed to build up a reserve

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_01]: of this much anger.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but let's talk about the

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_02]: overall thrust of this.

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like if you think about

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the movies as three movies

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_02]: it is this sort of like

[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_02]: scathing thing about the

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Jedi's unbecoming.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Every move mistake they make

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_02]: throughout three there's so

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: many mistakes.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They probably shouldn't have

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_02]: adopted Anakin.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't he kind of

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_02]: pulls up in their face

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_02]: but even then they probably

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_02]: could have raised him better.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you know what I really

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_01]: dislike about how they deal

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_01]: with Anakin?

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They constantly go like

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin I think you're really

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_01]: angry.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't go like

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we're the Jedi's, we're

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_01]: these wise people of

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_01]: presumably you know selflessness

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and hopefully empathy.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: To go like Anakin has anger

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: problem let's try to talk to him

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and be like hey Anakin are you

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_01]: doing all right?

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up Anakin?

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Then maybe he'd say like

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_02]: well I fell in love with

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Queen of Medaula.

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're like what?

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Whoa!

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_02]: No no no that's bad.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: We got roles here buddy.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember when you were

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_01]: like a little kid and your

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: parents would go like

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: somebody's tired and you go

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_01]: like I'm not tired.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you didn't want people

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: telling you what you were.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how they deal with

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin throughout all three

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_01]: movies.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah buddy.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They just go like somebody's

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: angry and he's like I'm not

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: angry.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like just talk to him

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_01]: about what's going on in his

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_01]: life.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Massage these issues.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it just seems like

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_02]: they don't, there's a lot of

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: red flags.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yes.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They have the movies.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Hell of a lot of red flags.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Hell of a lot of red flags yeah.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And also the Sith.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like let's not forget.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_02]: They unveil themselves in

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: episode one.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They literally give them

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: every opportunity like figure

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: out who we are.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We keep showing up.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_02]: They have three movies to do it.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't do it.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And it configures it out and

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: gets tempted to the dark side.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh so this is over the course

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: of like I'd assume 20

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: something years.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a long time.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like and they're

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the Sith are back they're

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: like ah it's I mean fine

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_02]: we killed one of them.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many frustrating

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: things about this series.

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We killed one of them.

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: There's only one Sith right?

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Or is it two?

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Ah yeah.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Usually two.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I always forget if it's

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: one or two.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: We should check the Jedi archives

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: sometime.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh our power to sense the force

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: has been diminished.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Also all the time.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: They say that all the time.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: They keep saying their powers

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: are diminished.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Also all the files in the

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Jedi archives have been deleted.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Weird.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's this clone army

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that a Jedi ordered.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's not look into it.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Also it's weird.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: The Chancellor is like

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_02]: not leaving office.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: He just keeps staying around.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And everything kind of

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: conspires to like keep him

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: in office.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: He keeps on creating new

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: positions and then

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: electing himself to them.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That seems bad.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't sense anything about

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: him in the force.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's probably okay.

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably a good guy.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I gave him a once over.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like airport security

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're like hey

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_02]: you don't have any like dark

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_02]: side water bottles alright

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you're in and then like you

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_02]: find out someone just brought

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_02]: a bomb onto the plane.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They pat him down once with

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_01]: the back of their hands.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You're cool.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_02]: You're clean.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: He literally decorates his whole

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_02]: office red.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_02]: His whole office is red.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And black.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Red and black.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And he writes sith in the carpet.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He's also always asking a young

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: padawan to hang out with him

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_02]: which if not dark side

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: it's still something

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: to be questioned.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's a taste for

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: the younglings.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you let this 15 year old

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: kid hang out with me for a few

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: hours?

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing will happen.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: So is this what Lucas is

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: trying to say?

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it like all things must pass

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_02]: the Jedi just became

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: too like bloated

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and unreactive.

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like is this their

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: problem?

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Well that's the weird thing.

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that like...

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's literally two and

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: two at the end of the movie.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Palpatine.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Balance.

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: They did it.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan and Yoda good.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Sidious and Anakin bad.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Two and two.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Balance.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He did bring balance to the

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_01]: force.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Good job.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And it almost would have been

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: three against one.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Anakin was like

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_01]: no I'll become a sith.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah sorry buddy.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You perfectly balance this.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The sith and Palpatine are

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: obviously an aggressive

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: deliberate force of evil.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They are people who are trying to

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: burn down the galaxy.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and they take pleasure in

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_02]: their like emotions.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_02]: They take pleasure in like

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: destruction and anger and stuff

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: right?

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's kind of the idea.

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He's always laughing.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Sidious as he fights.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like...

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It'd be funny if he was laughing

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: when he said Executor of

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: 66.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He was like...

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Do it.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Do it.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It does not feel like

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Lucas's opinion

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: of the Jedi Order by the end

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: of this film is positive in

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Like to a degree I think it's

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_01]: shitty screenwriting that he

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: makes them that

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: unawares of everything going on

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: all the time.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But I also think he's ramping up

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to some sort of point

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_01]: about like...

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how like absolute

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: power corrupts absolutely.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether consciously or just

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: through like a sort of laziness

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that can sneak in, you know?

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: A complacency with your

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: position that stops them from

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_01]: being active and alert.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But then why doesn't he

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: kill off like the biggest villain

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: in this movie?

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And why was this movie made by a

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: man who had more power in making

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: a movie than anyone ever had

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_01]: in making a movie ever?

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: There has never been an

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: independent film financed

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: fully by one person's

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: own money at this budget

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: in which he also, across

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: the three films, so at its

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: most extreme by the time we

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_01]: get to this point, developed

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: technology to be able to

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_01]: control every single element

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: on screen.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: More so than anything in the

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: history of filmmaking to

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: micromanage every element so

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: there is no spontaneity and

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: everything is within his control.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the thesis of the

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: movie is power ruins everything.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Whether you're aware of it or

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: not, whether you weaponize it

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: or you just allow it to let

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you become dull, power

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: ruins everything.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think Mike?

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I think it's just a

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: bad movie.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a bad fucking movie.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But don't you think Yoda

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: should have died?

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Because like Yoda's kind of

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: the chief, you know,

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_02]: architect of the Jedi's

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: collapse.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a great point and

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda is also a shitty character.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's a real shithead.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's hard though,

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you don't see

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Luke...

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't see Anakin...

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Luke Luke the baby you're

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: talking about at the end of

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: the film.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin's baby is called Luke.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you see the baby's

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: despair.

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't see baby Luke grow

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: up.

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But like I think Yoda's just

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: too cute to kill.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Luke has painted

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: himself into this corner

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: where Yoda should die but

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_02]: then he's like this cute

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_02]: little small thing voiced by

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Miss Piggy, you know.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He's not wrong.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: No he's correct.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you guys watching the

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Muppet?

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard it's not great.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not great.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really tough.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that they're like

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: oh it's a grown up Muppets

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and you're like that.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You're like who want,

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: no one wanted this.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_02]: No one wanted this.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, not to fucking make

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: this a whole thing,

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but the Muppets were always

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: for grownups and they were

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: through grownups because

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: they were intelligently

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: written and now they're

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: doing Muppets for grownups

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: on a very dumb surface

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: level where it's like

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Muppets talking about dating

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and taxes.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, no one wanted

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: to see the Muppets

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like drinking coffee in the

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_01]: morning and being like

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_02]: oh I'm tired.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what we think of

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the Muppets.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What would a Muppet look like

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_02]: if he was eating over

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: slaps?

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to know.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the things that

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: everyone hates about grownups.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the original Muppets

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: were all...

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Drojery, that's what they were like.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Why would we want to see

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: drojery?

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's fun cartoon animals

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's sort of what

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda is at your light.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He's this adorable little

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_02]: thing.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He should be so,

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a frog.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a frog man.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And instead he's like

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_02]: you know he meets

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_02]: a little adorable slave boy

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's like you seem angry.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's always a jerk.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And it can't want to be on the

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: council.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like eh we're not going to

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: make you the master.

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: He's condescending, he's mean.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You know he almost didn't let

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yaddle onto the Jedi Council?

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that true?

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_02]: We revealed that in our first

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: podcast series.

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he voted against her.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yaddle by the way was held

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: captive in a pit.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: In an underground hole for a

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: hundred years.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: By whom?

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not by Yoda.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: By jerks.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: She was sent on a mission

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: as a padwan.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I forget where it was

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: but she was kept in a hole

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: for a hundred years.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: She escaped and everyone was

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: like well obviously we

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: should give her a seat.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoda was like not so

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: fast.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She's pretty young.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Has she paid her dues?

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Yoda actually objected.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda has a shit.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though she survived

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: literally by eating the force.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: The force was all that

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: sustained her in that hole.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We love Yaddle.

[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that like a hook where they

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_02]: eat like the imagined soup

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: from the vault?

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what that's

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_02]: like.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: She was eating force pizza,

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she was eating force sundaes.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I would do.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright I'm sorry that's

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: off track but um.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Yoda is really shitty.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'm just saying it might

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: have been nice to see Yoda

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_02]: just get like bam between

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: the eyes.

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I agree with you David

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: because I do think Mike that

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: he backed himself into a corner

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: by making Yoda such a visually

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: appealing character.

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Because you don't want to see

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: him die.

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And because he's so small

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it creates an unearned sense

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: of empathy in battle

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: because he's always the

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: underdog.

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the David fighting

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Goliath in any battle.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But on a personality level

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: he is so thoroughly awful

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout all three movies

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and really directly leads

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_01]: to the downfall of the Jedi.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He does.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: By not sharing information,

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: by not being more perceptive,

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: by judging everybody,

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: by putting rank over everybody.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say Obi-Wan blows it second most.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And these two guys are the guys

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: who get to survive.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean Anakin blows it too.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's not.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean Amy Mowden.

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He definitely killed those kids.

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But I almost give Obi-Wan

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: a drop of a hat.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: By the way Kui,

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I know you've talked about him.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_02]: No no talk away.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_02]: He's very cool with killing

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: those kids.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: No problem.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if I turned evil like

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it would be more gradual.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you'd have to build

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_02]: to it.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'd steal from my mom.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But if like I wouldn't just

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: kill like a classroom.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He kills a kid again based on just

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Sidious saying like

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: well the dark side might save

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_02]: your wife who you had to dream about once.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway there's a bunch of kids

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_02]: running around the Jedi temple.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And I really need their heads

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_02]: to get chopped off.

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: God.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Not start with an adult.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No yeah.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Not forge some documents to start out.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He does chop up.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah some mild tax fraud.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's ease him into this.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no rush.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an artificial rush

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that Palpatine's created himself.

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And then this story creates itself

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_02]: because this story has to be about a holocaust.

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think though that by the end

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: of this third film you realize how

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_01]: culpable Yoda is and Yoda

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: deciding to banish himself

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: does feel like.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he says failed I have.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Right it feels like a little too late

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like they make it

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: through the way it's set up it feels

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_01]: like that's a direct response to him

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: failing the fight when Palpatine

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: when really it's like he's realizing

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: that he failed overall.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He failed entirely.

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Because let's be honest if they

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_02]: if Yoda had killed Palpatine

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: like what's the situation then probably

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: wouldn't be like OK all better now.

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no definitely not like all the

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Jedi's are dead there's no leader of

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: this.

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: There's gotta be like some other Jedi

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: left right or no I mean it can't

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: just be like oh we got all of them

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but two that were friends.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It does seem hard to believe.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's gotta be a few others.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know it just seems

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_01]: like a 15000 yeah.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a it would be satisfying

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: to have one of those endings

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_01]: where you realize that

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yoda

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: was kind of a villain all along

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and not like a twisty mustache

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I was working the gears but it's like

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: through negligence the fool on the

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: hill he was as bad a force as

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: those who are deliberately evil

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: unintended and to see him get a

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: lightsaber through the brain might have

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: been nice and why not this is the last

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: movie what are you saving George

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: why let him go off and have a nice

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: life and seclusion why

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: David's holding his

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe wanted to make a fourth

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: move I don't I mean Padme has

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: two kids a force move

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah Mike yes Mike yes

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike yes Mike yes

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: hashtag Mike yes please tweet at

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike hashtag Mike yes yeah please

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: no I mean we talked about this I

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_01]: don't know if you know this Mike yeah

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: but George Lucas did sell Lucas

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: film to Disney recently I think most

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: because they wanted the Indiana Jones

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: franchise yeah and the remake rights

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to Tucker a man in his dreams

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: strange magic strange magic willow

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_02]: there are a lot of good things they

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: wanted to make those you know the

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: monkey island games again or something

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: they were able to work Howard the duck

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: back in the Guardians of the Galaxy

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Radio Land Murders of course

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: would work very well as a TV series

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway please just keep naming

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Lucas film properties I think there may be

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: two more yeah there's a lot yeah

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_01]: if he had wanted to make a fourth

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: film I think he would have done it

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_01]: what was stopping him lack of finances

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: age lack of confidence or maybe burnout

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: from doing three in a row but he did

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: make yeah maybe he wants to do other

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff but he's reduced red tails you

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: produce red tails yeah he's he sold the

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: company to Disney right and you know

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_01]: we've been saying I mean they are

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: sitting on despite how hated these

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: movies are yeah what was a very

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: successful trilogy of film yeah oh

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah and Disney's very property minded

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know franchise minded it would

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: not be out of this realm to assume

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: that someday Disney would try to do an

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: episode for yeah I do you think they

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: try to fucking work Yoda back into it

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like sure why not Frank Oz is

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: still available as a villain is what

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_02]: what is it come now yeah that's what it

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: is yeah I guess yeah Yoda turns evil

[01:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: but does he fight Obi-Wan or is there

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: like when you have those babies but

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe he tries to kill the babies

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: you think Yoda tries to kill the babies

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: probably that's where I would steal them to

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: raise them himself I'm just saying if you

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: also hit them I don't know if you brought

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: me into a pitch meeting and we're like a

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: fourth Star Wars movie what would you do

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like okay Yoda's creeping into a

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: child bedroom lightsaber brandish this is

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: the opening scene in the movie and then

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan chops him in two that's

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: opening scene is Obi-Wan kills Yoda

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: bisects him okay so now Obi-Wan

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: standing with a bisected Yoda over

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: two babies yeah sure they get split up

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_02]: what seemed to have two and a half hours

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: after that to 20 minutes later I don't

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: know 20 minutes later

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a crazy idea okay call me nuts

[01:12:47] [SPEAKER_01]: okay the logical thing would be

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: okay do an episode four continue this

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_01]: story but I think they're back in such

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: a weird corner and this area of the

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: universe we're now is just doing

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: an episode zero I said do a prequel

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah do a minus one is that crazy do

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: a prequel to Phantom Menace we haven't

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: talked about this also I forgot to mention

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like the closing shot of the movie is

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Owen looking at like the sun

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: okay great what does that fucking

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it's probably setting him up to be the hero of

[01:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: number four and Joel Edgerton has become

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_02]: a pretty famous actor let's try to

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: look at so you think interesting you

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_01]: think Owen and Baru would have been

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: the two stars are male and female stars

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: of the next Star Wars movie and they're

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: raising a kid yeah you know

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: something else I want to mention please

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_02]: because I haven't talked about this

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: you know how the poster for the Phantom

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Menace is Anakin walking and then there's

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this shadow he's casting yeah that shadow

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: is Darth Vader armor oh yeah

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: the armor that he puts on really how far

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: in advance Lucas was thinking with this

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_02]: so he knew it was really impressive

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_02]: well anyway I mean I wonder if he just had

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_02]: the general design and it's hadn't sort of

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: followed it or if you have the exact

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Darth Vader plant maybe he had just

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah he's like yeah I don't know he's

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna put this on it also kind of like

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I guess it makes sense with a

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: voice modulator but it's weird to switch out

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Hayden Christiansen's voice

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_02]: for James Earl Jones voice for a line

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: we talked about this for just one line

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_02]: to get that big of an actor in there for

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_02]: just one line I know it's a big upgrade

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: though I mean no one's complaining yeah but why not maybe

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_02]: use James Earl Jones to play General Grievous

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_02]: that guy has several scenes yeah you know

[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe and then get the sound guy to do

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Darth Vader for a minute yeah

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: David I have a crazy notion a crazy

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: question is there any chance that the

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: design of Darth Vader was reverse

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: engineered from that poster it's not

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: impossible right that they just did

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_02]: the post yeah they were like he'll become

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: something evil yeah one thing they just

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: did the poster they shot it it was in the

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Tunisia Sun and they saw the shadow and

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_01]: they were like oh that shadows kind of

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting because you say like oh it

[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: looks like Darth Vader's you know

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: armor but like Anakin's got a bowl cut

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: that's sort of similar to the

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: spying of the helmet you know I mean

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: this thing is like two feet taller than

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_02]: him though I guess it's just a trick or

[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: perspective the sun works on

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Tatooine well they did shoot that on

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_01]: tattoo it did fight a binary

[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: star system so yeah I'm just saying I would

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: love to see a prequel I think it'd be

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: interesting to see how the Phantom

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: universe started do a young okay palpatine

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: this is the thing we want to see is we

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: want to see Palpatine we want to see

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Darth Plague yeah his his master

[01:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Darth Plague yes sure you know I

[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: want to see brewing up a force baby

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I want I just want to show you that

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Griffin is stirring some sort of force

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: cauldron with his hands and making a baby

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: going let's put a baby in Schmi Skywalker

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and the slave lady like that movie

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: sounds more interesting doesn't sound

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: that interesting right now you're just

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: describing two guys thinking really hard

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: about a baby and then somehow getting it

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: inside a woman yeah and then being like

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and then we're gonna do some stuff I

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: guess it would end with Palpatine

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: killing Darth Plague yeah yeah that's

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna be cool and then like going to

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: red face paint planet and finding

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_02]: little Darth Maul yeah rending an

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: apartment together with a balcony yeah

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: balcony what are we doing on time Benny

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: oh man you guys are looking at about

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: 75 minutes that's pretty good I think

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a I think that's a good I don't know

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike do you have any further thoughts

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_02]: no I'm good I think I've covered

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: everything I want to cover but you

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_02]: were a great guess thank you for having

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: me extremely knowledgeable you were

[01:16:20] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah yeah a lot of people like have

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_02]: come into the show and then we're like

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_02]: talking about you know Dexter Jester

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: who have a look at us like we're

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: good how the fuck do you guys know that

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: why they're nice no I'm on totally on

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: board and and you you remained

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: astoundingly upbeat while talking

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: about a movie that we all appreciated

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: about a mass murder subplot in the

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: movie yeah yeah well you know let's

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: let's pour one out for the Jedi's

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: all our fallen Jedi's yeah flavor you

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: got the kiwi strawberry so let's just

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: briefly you know say our respects for

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Adigalia he had a Monday

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: plow clone yeah he bites it yeah

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Kip Fisto who's the little guy

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_02]: little guy with the sort of droopy

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_02]: ears oh yeah I forget your real poof

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_02]: no he dies between like episodes two

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and three or something really just

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_02]: like I was reading his Wikipedia you know

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_02]: he dies like tragic a gloomy

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_02]: chops him into pieces or something it's

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_02]: crazy there's a comic book about it

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_02]: well we like the Ariel poof he's the

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_02]: one with the kind of long stock head oh

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah tip his races that he's a

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_02]: he's a queer man his last name is poof

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: so good job George Lucas yep that's

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: what we said alright P. Adel we

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: suppose yeah a lot of these characters

[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: died off-screen but yeah we lost we

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: lost a lot of good ones

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Evan Peel Evan Peel yeah agent Collier

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah all these all these just great

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: characters Bruce of E don't even know

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: some of our best friends

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: someone most beloved characters in the

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: history of pop culture all gone so I

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: know this is a somber note RIP to end

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: on me thank you Mike Drucker thank you

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: for having thanks Mike yeah people can

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: follow you on Twitter and if they have

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: television they can watch this night

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: show yeah why not what they have

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_02]: YouTube let's be on our YouTube or

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: who lower any yeah if you don't have

[01:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: YouTube other places what's coming up

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: in the tonight show is Jimmy Fallon

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_02]: going to execute or six he's got a

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_02]: killing all six and we're gonna kill

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: all celebrities yeah yeah what do you

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: got planned for the big season

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: have seasons I guess we do technically

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: do you like technically you is a

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_02]: year of season I have no idea just

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: every so often they'll be like it's

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: a new season and I think there's just

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: some counting method that like moles

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_02]: beneath the earth there's like a guy

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: with an abacus being like the tonight

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: show is now in season 29 exactly I'm

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like alright guess we are

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: no season arc spoilers no season arc

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: spoilers has Jimmy seen the Star Wars

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: movies is he a Star Wars yeah I think

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: so yeah well we got asked the same

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_01]: question that we asked Chase when he

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: was oh yeah yeah does Jimmy have any

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: good Hayden Christianson because

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: they work together in factory girl

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: they did I always forget that I

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: have to ask yeah okay

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: okay we're please report back to us

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah read your answer out live on it

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah Hayden Christianson did make a

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: return to the cinemas recently he had

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: come out Christian movie it wasn't

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: called seven minutes and I think it's 30

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: minutes 30 minutes 30 nobody made a

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: movie where he plays a guy who died

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and then came back to life and told

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: everyone about what heaven one of

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: those movies were it's like I saw my

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: uncle he was there you know like

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_02]: people I didn't see the movie

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen it you spoiled it for me

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: sorry but he's back baby hey that

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Hayden producer ban final thoughts oh

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know excited to do another one

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: of these been yeah um yeah this is fun

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: this is the first time we're gonna do

[01:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: two episodes in a row we're doing back

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to back baby so our next episode you'll

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: hear a weekly later but we'll be

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_01]: doing it we might actually just

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: descend into madness oh yeah yeah

[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm feeling a little lightheaded already

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah me too well thank you for being here

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: thank you for listening please rate a

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[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: even fucking worry about just forget