The Last Airbender with Seaton Smith

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[00:00:31] I'm David, David Sims, Griffin Newman, Blank Check with Griffin and David, this is a podcast about directors who are given free reign Blank checks to make whatever they want

[00:00:40] And the good and bad, the ill that can come of that, this is a miniseries as titled Pied-Night Shamacast

[00:00:49] Great title, great miniseries

[00:00:51] Well that is the title, I won't say how I feel about it, I had differing ideas

[00:00:58] This is now the 9th film by M. Night Shyamalan?

[00:01:01] It's a weird day because of Daylight Savings

[00:01:03] Is this 8 or 9?

[00:01:04] Agreed, I'm all for it

[00:01:05] This is his 8th movie, 9th movie, I don't know

[00:01:10] I think this is his 9th movie

[00:01:13] Yep, 9th movie

[00:01:14] This is his 9th film, it was released in 2010, it was his first adaptation

[00:01:19] But he wrote it

[00:01:21] He wrote it

[00:01:22] He wrote it

[00:01:23] Wrote Pruse Directed

[00:01:24] He does his classic M. Night Mic Drop, the second the movie fucking ends, Written Direct and produced by M. Night Shyamalan

[00:01:29] This is his first 3D movie?

[00:01:32] I think he copy edited it too

[00:01:35] He copy edited it

[00:01:36] Absolutely, he line edited

[00:01:38] This was his first Nickelodeon picture?

[00:01:40] That's true, that's true

[00:01:42] He's for the kids, he's next generation, he's smart

[00:01:44] Yeah and I'd say this is the first film of his that's like, well no, because Why Do Wake Was a Children's Film?

[00:01:48] Yeah, sure, right

[00:01:50] Why Do Wake Was a Kids Film?

[00:01:51] This is his first kids film since he became a big deal

[00:01:53] Yeah

[00:01:54] He makes a nasty horror movie that's rated R and then follows it with like a kid friendly

[00:01:59] The Blood Red R rating

[00:02:00] Yep

[00:02:01] We have a guest in the studio with him

[00:02:02] We do

[00:02:03] He's already said two things

[00:02:05] Yeah, I don't like waiting

[00:02:07] He's eating a salad

[00:02:08] There's no repercussions to my actions

[00:02:09] He's got this salad, he's got corn in it

[00:02:11] I'm trying to see

[00:02:12] Yeah man, I got protein to fuck up, I got some sort of cheese

[00:02:14] It looks like a, yeah, yeah

[00:02:15] Corn, chicken, spinach

[00:02:18] Yeah, I go crazy

[00:02:19] I'm like, yo man put that shit in there man

[00:02:21] It's a super food

[00:02:22] He's got two cans of coke

[00:02:24] Yeah well you know what, I bought one can, I reached in, there were two cans in there

[00:02:27] What?

[00:02:28] I figured one of these poor UCB improv was needed

[00:02:30] I was like fuck it, they fucked up, they gotta learn about the hardships in New York

[00:02:35] Uh, Satan Smith is our guest today

[00:02:37] Satan Smith

[00:02:38] Welcome sir

[00:02:39] The great comedian

[00:02:40] Yeah

[00:02:41] And actor

[00:02:42] And former coworker

[00:02:43] Former coworker, life lessons teacher to the improvisers of New York City

[00:02:47] Uh, see, Satan and I worked together on a sitcom that I was then fired from

[00:02:51] And then Satan continued to have that job and then the job no longer existed

[00:02:54] That's a succinct version of the story right?

[00:02:56] That's pretty much how it worked

[00:02:57] That's pretty much how it worked

[00:02:58] Um, but we're good friends, we had a month of, maybe less than a month

[00:03:04] But we would sit together in a car and talk about our futures together

[00:03:07] No, it was really a nice, nice time

[00:03:08] It was a really nice time

[00:03:09] We were really naive, well I was really naive, I'm not sure how naive you were

[00:03:12] I was so fucking naive

[00:03:14] I was pretty fucking naive

[00:03:16] They seemed to always look at me and go like, you're really naive

[00:03:18] Like even episode 12, she was like, I can't believe how naive you are

[00:03:21] What do, what don't I know? What the fuck am I missing?

[00:03:24] Everything, it's crazy, yeah

[00:03:25] Yeah, no, there's a whole, you realize how small you are really in the grand scheme of everything

[00:03:29] But we would definitely, we'd sit in this parked car outside our hotel and like, convince

[00:03:33] What parked car is this?

[00:03:34] It was Satan's car, I didn't have a car, so he would drive me

[00:03:36] Oh yeah, we'd drive him sometimes, unless he would get your driver

[00:03:38] He would get the PA guy

[00:03:39] Yeah, there was a PA who would drive me sometimes, Sam Steffenach would drive me

[00:03:43] Yeah, yeah, he's awesome, he's a good guy

[00:03:44] He's a good guy

[00:03:45] As you're a comic now, he's doing like

[00:03:46] Really?

[00:03:47] Yeah

[00:03:48] I see that he draws a lot, he's a good artist

[00:03:49] This is a podcast in which Satan and I catch up with people

[00:03:52] Yeah, just guys, I want to hear

[00:03:53] We used to work with

[00:03:54] You hear about Julian? Crazy

[00:03:56] Back on crack cocaine

[00:04:00] Back on it, when we knew him, he was on it

[00:04:02] He was on it then he got off

[00:04:03] That was that

[00:04:04] Nice to hear

[00:04:05] Yeah, right

[00:04:06] But I gotta tell you this is the sad note

[00:04:07] And three, keep that cocaine

[00:04:09] I'm sorry

[00:04:10] Satan would drive me, we'd drive to Urban Outfitters

[00:04:14] Because we were like, oh we got money for the first time

[00:04:16] Sure

[00:04:17] And we would just be like

[00:04:18] And you had time to kill, right? You're in LA

[00:04:19] We had a lot of time to kill

[00:04:20] Yeah

[00:04:21] If you want a drug habit, let me tell you Charlie Sheen

[00:04:24] Like you understand how, think about how functional that may be

[00:04:27] He did 24 episodes a season

[00:04:28] He was a hard, yeah

[00:04:29] Fucked up

[00:04:30] So that makes you imagine how much you don't know

[00:04:33] Right, how much free time he had

[00:04:34] It's not fucked up

[00:04:35] No, it's made up

[00:04:36] Here's the thing

[00:04:38] People always go like, actors are overpaid

[00:04:40] It's like so stupid, so easy, whatever

[00:04:43] I do think acting is tough

[00:04:44] That hasn't been said

[00:04:45] Being on a multicamers sitcom is the single easiest job in history

[00:04:49] They always say that

[00:04:50] That's like the gig you want the most

[00:04:51] It's insane

[00:04:52] And if you have any experience doing live performance

[00:04:55] All you need is just to have the instincts to once a week

[00:04:58] Be able to turn it on

[00:04:59] Yeah

[00:05:00] And just do it in front of a crowd

[00:05:01] But the rest of the week they're like

[00:05:02] Hey, these are really loose rehearsals

[00:05:04] Because we're going to change the entire script in an hour

[00:05:06] Right, you're going to get thrown new pages every day

[00:05:08] So just hold the thing in your hand

[00:05:10] I actually what I'm really happy about

[00:05:11] Like it's going to be nerdy for a second

[00:05:13] It kind of not taught me how to act

[00:05:14] It taught me how to have acting habits

[00:05:17] Which is the thing you really find for auditioning

[00:05:19] You just go like, alright, I know when I'm going to

[00:05:21] How many times I need to read a script and memorize shit

[00:05:24] I know how to prepare

[00:05:26] Like I got this nice habit because I knew I was the weakest

[00:05:28] Or most inexperienced guy on the set

[00:05:30] I would wake up like three hours before

[00:05:32] And just, I'll get high and just play

[00:05:34] And so I would come into the set just very

[00:05:36] Just warmed up like I'm ready to act

[00:05:37] And they'd be like, we don't even need that much energy

[00:05:39] You can just sit down and be like, alright

[00:05:41] I'm ready to act, I'm ready to act, shit

[00:05:43] I got nothing else to say

[00:05:45] For ten days

[00:05:46] Yeah, really

[00:05:47] Oh my god, it was ten days

[00:05:48] Actually you know what?

[00:05:49] I wasn't even smoking weed then

[00:05:50] I was drinking

[00:05:51] I actually gained

[00:05:52] Like I was drinking half a bottle of night

[00:05:53] It was bad

[00:05:54] I was, I gained so much weight

[00:05:56] Between day one to day ten

[00:05:58] Oh like the wardrobe woman

[00:06:00] I forgot her name

[00:06:01] But she was really like annoyed with me

[00:06:03] Like she was like

[00:06:04] Did all her work was undone?

[00:06:05] Yeah, cause like I know like literally

[00:06:07] The episode where I had to wear that green suit

[00:06:10] The thighs rich

[00:06:12] They had to go sew it in between

[00:06:14] I didn't know how to problem

[00:06:16] The rest of the spectrum I had a problem

[00:06:18] That's a great way to find out you have a problem

[00:06:20] But they got to like undo your seams in between your seams

[00:06:24] There's a lot of liquor

[00:06:25] Cause the liquor was cheaper

[00:06:26] Fuck dude, cause it was LA

[00:06:28] It's LA

[00:06:29] Is it cheap in LA?

[00:06:30] I've barely ever been to LA

[00:06:31] See I was buying like $50 bottles of bullet here

[00:06:33] $40 bottles of bullet

[00:06:34] And there it was like

[00:06:35] The same bottle was like $19

[00:06:37] And so I was just like

[00:06:38] Yeah, alright

[00:06:39] Well it's time to

[00:06:40] It's time to get real

[00:06:41] And I had no friends

[00:06:42] And I was like sitting in the bottle

[00:06:43] Yeah, and all this time

[00:06:44] If I hadn't been fired

[00:06:45] I'd be in there in the car with you

[00:06:46] Telling you to stop drinking

[00:06:47] That was the date

[00:06:48] No, you were getting pussy

[00:06:49] I remember you

[00:06:50] You were getting quality pussy

[00:06:52] Oh we can talk about that

[00:06:53] Let's talk about it

[00:06:54] Yeah

[00:06:55] We may have hit the first stop at Griffin

[00:06:57] Actually doesn't want to talk about it

[00:06:59] The one thing we refuse to talk about

[00:07:01] I don't like talking about anything that makes me look cool

[00:07:04] Look cool

[00:07:05] Anyway

[00:07:06] I'll say the most embarrassed

[00:07:08] I had a new Asian girl every night

[00:07:09] It was crazy

[00:07:10] I was like man

[00:07:11] You gotta fetish

[00:07:14] That's perfect segue into Last Airbender

[00:07:16] Yeah, perfect segue

[00:07:17] Right

[00:07:18] So I

[00:07:19] Right, that is not true

[00:07:22] I was

[00:07:23] Come on Griffin

[00:07:24] Lean into it

[00:07:25] No

[00:07:26] But

[00:07:27] Am I Chonglin should have had an Asian fetish for this film

[00:07:31] That's what I'm saying

[00:07:32] Yeah

[00:07:33] We're joking about that I did

[00:07:35] But he should have

[00:07:36] He needed one

[00:07:37] Wasn't soccer and the girl white though?

[00:07:39] Oh

[00:07:40] Hello white

[00:07:41] Yeah, that was weird

[00:07:42] In the boy

[00:07:43] People were pissed off about how white people were

[00:07:46] Pretty white movie

[00:07:47] You know

[00:07:48] But you know which people aren't white?

[00:07:49] All the villains

[00:07:51] Yeah

[00:07:52] They're Indian

[00:07:53] They all were like in the Daily Show

[00:07:55] Yeah I was gonna say they're Indian

[00:07:57] But they're not actually all Indian actors

[00:07:59] That's the other offensive thing

[00:08:00] Is they're all entirely different types of brown

[00:08:02] Yeah cause it's like Cliff Curtis

[00:08:04] He's like a Maori actor

[00:08:05] Right

[00:08:06] He's from New Zealand

[00:08:07] Then Dev Patel is like

[00:08:08] Dev Patel is a British Indian

[00:08:09] Right

[00:08:10] And then Sean Taub is like

[00:08:11] He's like Iranian

[00:08:12] Right

[00:08:13] So it's right

[00:08:14] It's just like

[00:08:15] Ah I don't know

[00:08:16] You know

[00:08:17] Over there

[00:08:18] Different people who are brown

[00:08:19] In a general sense

[00:08:21] Well here's my question

[00:08:22] Cause I was reading about this

[00:08:23] Like they cast Dev Patel

[00:08:24] Did we say this is the last airbender

[00:08:26] Oh yeah we're doing the last airbender

[00:08:27] We're talking about the last airbender adaptation of

[00:08:28] Out of the Last Airbender

[00:08:29] I saw the TV show

[00:08:31] I'm the only one in the room who saw the TV show right

[00:08:32] Yeah that's why

[00:08:33] I've seen it

[00:08:34] Like I've seen a few episodes

[00:08:35] But I never did it

[00:08:36] Yeah I'm just gonna say

[00:08:37] I just put my position

[00:08:38] I saw the TV show twice

[00:08:39] Like back from first episode to last

[00:08:40] Cause it was an awesome show

[00:08:41] I mean that's

[00:08:42] The main reason we have you in here today

[00:08:43] You know

[00:08:44] I've always wanted to have you as a guest on the podcast

[00:08:46] But I need an expert of the show

[00:08:48] Show is a perfect piece of art

[00:08:49] That's the stance we need here

[00:08:51] Because David and I can explain why this movie's bad

[00:08:53] On a movie level

[00:08:54] But I need you to explain to us why it's bad on an adaptation

[00:08:56] I don't know

[00:08:57] It's a little

[00:08:58] About

[00:08:59] I wanted to get

[00:09:00] Cause I just saw

[00:09:01] So Dev Patel

[00:09:02] Who plays Zuko

[00:09:03] But he was cast late

[00:09:05] And it was originally gonna be Jesse McCartney

[00:09:07] Correct

[00:09:08] Who's like a really white person

[00:09:10] Like even for a white person

[00:09:11] He's pretty white

[00:09:12] Blonde, blue eyes

[00:09:13] Like pretty Aryan

[00:09:14] Like Hitler

[00:09:15] Cream Pie

[00:09:16] And I couldn't figure this out

[00:09:17] Like did they then recast

[00:09:19] Like the villains around him

[00:09:21] Like they were like, oh if Dev Patel's gonna be this kid

[00:09:23] Then everyone else should be like

[00:09:25] Racially similar

[00:09:27] I mean I don't even know how

[00:09:28] That is what I have gathered

[00:09:30] I will later in the episode

[00:09:32] I wanna save this

[00:09:33] I know you hate it when I read stuff

[00:09:34] But I really think this is worth reading

[00:09:35] Someone like two years ago

[00:09:37] Right

[00:09:38] So this was like four years after the film was released

[00:09:40] Who worked on the film

[00:09:41] Anonymously in some position on the crew

[00:09:43] Posted on like an avatar

[00:09:46] Fan message board

[00:09:47] And was like, you know what

[00:09:49] It's been like four years

[00:09:50] Paramount's not gonna sue me

[00:09:52] They're not making another movie

[00:09:54] Right, let me explain to you everything that went wrong

[00:09:55] In the set of this film

[00:09:56] And the guy has this epic rant that explains

[00:09:58] So you'll dig that up later

[00:10:00] Oh please dig that up

[00:10:01] I guess right

[00:10:03] I wanna find that original script

[00:10:04] I wanna see if his vision was that bad

[00:10:06] In the first place

[00:10:07] The guy addresses a lot of it

[00:10:08] And I have a few

[00:10:10] People I know who worked on it

[00:10:11] Some little pieces and stuff like that

[00:10:12] But let's try to

[00:10:14] For at least ten minutes talk about the movie

[00:10:15] As a movie before we try to figure out

[00:10:17] What we're wrong in a production standpoint

[00:10:19] So it's based on a Nickelodeon show

[00:10:22] That aired like in like 05

[00:10:25] Like something like right in the mid-2000s

[00:10:26] I think it started even earlier

[00:10:27] Right, or some other

[00:10:28] I just remember

[00:10:29] 05 to 08

[00:10:30] 05 to 08

[00:10:31] I remember computers were not as good then

[00:10:33] That's all I remember

[00:10:34] So I remember I was illegally downloaded

[00:10:36] It was better than the early adages

[00:10:38] When like torrents were just a new thing

[00:10:40] Yeah, you had to work to get into the episode

[00:10:42] Yeah that was the frontier I remember

[00:10:43] I lived in England

[00:10:44] No shit, no

[00:10:45] I actually watched it the first time

[00:10:46] When DVDs were getting in the mail

[00:10:48] That's it

[00:10:49] Oh yeah, you had it on Netflix

[00:10:50] If you were getting that

[00:10:51] If you were getting that

[00:10:52] Then you would be like

[00:10:53] Watch it and you'd mail it back

[00:10:54] And be like

[00:10:55] Alright come on, come on

[00:10:56] You're waiting for the next four episodes

[00:10:57] Yeah

[00:10:58] You look at what's four episodes at a time

[00:10:59] Yeah I saw I watched Buffy

[00:11:00] Oh god I remember ruined

[00:11:01] Yeah Buffy the season five

[00:11:02] I watched that way

[00:11:03] Even though it was a horrible season

[00:11:04] With that fucking god

[00:11:05] Whatever, keep going

[00:11:06] I kinda like season five

[00:11:07] Whatever, yeah let's look

[00:11:08] So the show was always from my understanding

[00:11:11] Designed to be like finite

[00:11:13] Like the guys came in

[00:11:14] And they were like

[00:11:15] Here's the whole story

[00:11:16] It would take us like

[00:11:17] Books

[00:11:18] Like it's like book one, book two

[00:11:19] Like they're the seasons right

[00:11:20] Exactly

[00:11:21] It was like three seasons

[00:11:22] There's three seasons

[00:11:23] There's like water fire

[00:11:24] Earth

[00:11:25] And they were like

[00:11:26] Here's the whole deal

[00:11:27] This is how much time we need to tell this

[00:11:28] Whole epic tale

[00:11:29] Nickelodeon was like

[00:11:30] Thumbs up

[00:11:31] Like anime

[00:11:32] It's inspired by anime

[00:11:33] It's not Japanese

[00:11:34] But it's like in the same style

[00:11:36] That's serial style

[00:11:37] Yeah both from an art perspective

[00:11:39] And from a storytelling perspective

[00:11:41] It was definitely very influenced

[00:11:43] By sort of like

[00:11:44] Old Eastern mythic storytelling

[00:11:46] Right and it was just really much the show

[00:11:48] Following the day to day of a god

[00:11:50] Trying to figure out how to be a god

[00:11:52] So in his friends

[00:11:53] And their own epic arcs and stuff

[00:11:55] It was awesome

[00:11:56] So I'm gonna make you repeat this thing that you said

[00:11:58] Right before we start recording

[00:11:59] Oh sure

[00:12:00] Well the problem okay is that

[00:12:02] There's two philosophies when it comes to

[00:12:04] Making a movie versus a TV show

[00:12:05] Where TV shows tell you the day to day

[00:12:07] Things

[00:12:08] Movies are stories that you tell your grandkids about

[00:12:10] So the protagonist

[00:12:11] Hopefully if they live

[00:12:13] They would tell their grandkids about this movie

[00:12:15] They wouldn't tell their grandkids about the TV show

[00:12:17] Like Seinfeld tells George about his day

[00:12:19] It's like guys you see at the end of the day

[00:12:21] Or for drinks and you just say like

[00:12:22] Hey you wanna hear something kinda crazy that happens

[00:12:24] What happened to you today

[00:12:25] While Rocky 6

[00:12:26] He's walking around the tables telling people

[00:12:27] Yo let me tell you guys some shit I did

[00:12:29] In the first movie

[00:12:30] It was crazy

[00:12:31] Yeah cause it was fucking rocky

[00:12:32] It was a great movie

[00:12:33] Oh yeah no I know that story

[00:12:34] That's that movie that's great

[00:12:35] Yeah it was a fucking great movie

[00:12:36] Tell me the movie again

[00:12:37] That's a fucking

[00:12:38] So in that movie we would avatar

[00:12:39] He tried to make

[00:12:40] A day to day story

[00:12:41] Into one big long epic

[00:12:43] So it's really like holding you hostage

[00:12:45] At a fucking party

[00:12:46] There's way too much happening in this movie

[00:12:48] Wait cause can you tell me

[00:12:50] Cause that's what I don't know

[00:12:52] Is how much of the show did he put in this movie

[00:12:54] The whole thing

[00:12:55] It's the whole thing

[00:12:56] Cause I was like did he just do like the first season

[00:12:59] No he didn't know

[00:13:00] He did the first whole season yes

[00:13:02] Like the first

[00:13:03] It's like 20 episodes

[00:13:04] That boat scene we know he escapes the boat

[00:13:06] In the TV show that took two hours to get there

[00:13:09] And in the movie he got there in 15 minutes

[00:13:12] 15 minutes maybe

[00:13:13] And so it was like you couldn't really get the scope of

[00:13:15] This village being destroyed

[00:13:16] This big great king kid

[00:13:18] Who's suffering

[00:13:19] Yeah

[00:13:20] Like the relationships never really uh

[00:13:22] No none of the relationships work

[00:13:23] It doesn't no because there's so many fucking characters in it

[00:13:25] But here's the thing

[00:13:26] Here's the thing that really was important

[00:13:27] Um the relationships weren't that deep in the show

[00:13:29] Because the tone of the show was like a kid story

[00:13:32] Right there once was a kid who da da

[00:13:34] Problem in this movie they're not going with that tone of

[00:13:37] No

[00:13:38] They're almost going to like almost Christopher Nolan

[00:13:40] Like what would happen in the real world except

[00:13:42] We don't have the budget for the real world

[00:13:43] So let's just bring some green screen in

[00:13:45] Some green screen

[00:13:47] And just shoot it like it's a fucking ABC family TV show

[00:13:51] Well let's say that

[00:13:52] Okay so like the first

[00:13:53] I have not seen many episodes of the cartoon show but I did

[00:13:55] I've seen a few

[00:13:56] I saw the first couple

[00:13:57] And I just like wanted to watch more and I was like

[00:13:59] This is a whole thing and I need to set some time

[00:14:01] Aside to do this

[00:14:02] Yeah

[00:14:03] And I never got to do it

[00:14:04] I mean yeah it's a few hours

[00:14:05] I mean because it's half hour so I really suggest it

[00:14:06] Yeah no I'm going to do it

[00:14:07] It's worth to binge

[00:14:08] I've been told by many people

[00:14:09] I also want to paper over the memory of this movie

[00:14:12] With like the actual good show

[00:14:14] I'd love to scrub this out of my brain

[00:14:15] And I also while watching this a bunch of times

[00:14:17] I had this thing thought of like

[00:14:19] Oh this would be great if it was cool

[00:14:21] Yeah

[00:14:22] You know like while watching the movie

[00:14:23] Like oh I hate this but I'd love it if it was good

[00:14:25] Yeah no I mean that's what the show would do

[00:14:27] It's all based on these fun principles

[00:14:29] And they learn they're all stupid

[00:14:31] In the Miss Movie it was like

[00:14:33] They accepted shit way too much

[00:14:35] Way too fast

[00:14:36] They find me like an ice ball

[00:14:38] Under the and like two seconds later

[00:14:40] Like we got it this is our best friend now

[00:14:42] And we got to help him out like no matter what he wants

[00:14:44] And he's their best friend

[00:14:45] Like he's not a friend

[00:14:46] And they don't talk about it

[00:14:47] Like they don't talk about his flying yak at all

[00:14:49] In this movie

[00:14:50] Barely they barely yeah they

[00:14:51] Remember when they got she got

[00:14:53] They flew the they got the flying yak

[00:14:54] He escaped the boat right

[00:14:55] And she was like alright I gotta go find this temple

[00:14:57] And they were like we'll go with you

[00:14:59] And he was like nah

[00:15:00] He was like no we're going with you

[00:15:01] And he's like alright

[00:15:02] Alright sure yeah

[00:15:03] What kind of fucking avatar are you

[00:15:05] And then remember then they finally got to the temple

[00:15:07] She was like by the way what's your name

[00:15:09] What the fuck are you doing they all flying shrimp

[00:15:12] That whole time

[00:15:14] Took you that long to find out

[00:15:16] They were on a yak right for like six seven hours

[00:15:18] They could have not

[00:15:19] They didn't talk about nothing

[00:15:20] At a conversation

[00:15:21] Just sat there and silenced

[00:15:22] This is absurd yeah I was just like

[00:15:24] This doesn't even make sense

[00:15:25] But that's the problem right

[00:15:27] He's squishing it

[00:15:28] He's squishing it

[00:15:29] And it's not even a long movie

[00:15:31] It's like a hundred minutes long movie

[00:15:33] Yeah no other movies should have been like

[00:15:34] Like Harry Potter and that

[00:15:35] Should have been like seven movies

[00:15:36] Right if that even if that like

[00:15:39] There was nothing really to bring to it

[00:15:41] The TV show kind of did it all

[00:15:42] Like you really are just going to try

[00:15:44] To do a bigger epic version of the TV show

[00:15:46] And that's that requires way too much money

[00:15:49] Like I mean the cartoon really went crazy

[00:15:52] Well I know we're trying to talk about the movie itself

[00:15:54] It's just so fucking stupid it's hard

[00:15:56] More interesting to talk about the things surrounding the movie

[00:15:59] Than actually go through

[00:16:00] We usually try to go through the plot of the film

[00:16:01] But it's like

[00:16:02] I'm angry about the four dollars

[00:16:03] Like I really am angry

[00:16:05] You did HD

[00:16:06] I did uh

[00:16:07] I did Amazon HD

[00:16:08] I just did them on TV

[00:16:09] I wanted to do something else while I was doing it

[00:16:11] And then at first 15 minutes

[00:16:12] I wrote down funny lines

[00:16:13] And then after that I was like

[00:16:14] This is gross

[00:16:15] Yeah like exercise and buildility

[00:16:17] Yeah I'd rather watch a Trump rally

[00:16:21] So I told you guys this right before we start recording

[00:16:23] But this was like the first movie I auditioned for

[00:16:27] It's crazy

[00:16:28] I like dropped out of college

[00:16:29] And came to New York

[00:16:30] And Cedin I had the same agent

[00:16:31] But it was at the time he was an assistant at an agency

[00:16:34] And I had like met with him at a diner

[00:16:36] And I was like

[00:16:37] I wanted to drive out of college

[00:16:38] And he was like

[00:16:39] Okay I want to figure out what it's like to have a client

[00:16:41] Let's like try this together

[00:16:43] Wow

[00:16:44] And this was like I um

[00:16:46] I believe it was literally the day after

[00:16:49] I flew back here to New York where I grew up

[00:16:51] And it was like

[00:16:52] Okay we have an audition schedule for you the next day

[00:16:54] Wow

[00:16:55] And it was this

[00:16:56] Maybe two days later

[00:16:57] It was like the first thing

[00:16:58] And my sister

[00:16:59] I watched the cartoon show my sister's younger

[00:17:00] And um

[00:17:01] So I like bought the DVD

[00:17:03] Of the first volume that was just like the first three episodes

[00:17:06] Or whatever

[00:17:07] I watched that with her

[00:17:08] I was auditioning to play Soka

[00:17:10] Soka's the brother?

[00:17:12] Yes

[00:17:13] Yeah the Jackson Rathbone

[00:17:14] Right plays him

[00:17:15] Now in the cartoon show that character is funny

[00:17:17] He's like the comic relief

[00:17:19] Right he's like the sort of bumbling cod

[00:17:21] That's the best character in the show because

[00:17:23] I'm sorry I've eaten

[00:17:25] The best episode because uh

[00:17:27] Each season he actually grows

[00:17:28] Like he starts off as this weak funny character

[00:17:30] And then like the last episode he grows into this man

[00:17:32] Who like leads the fucking army

[00:17:34] It's really like a beautiful thing to watch

[00:17:36] Sure

[00:17:37] I like it if I was going to do the movie

[00:17:38] I'm sorry

[00:17:39] Again at the advantage of a TV show

[00:17:40] You can build an arc

[00:17:41] So

[00:17:42] You know

[00:17:43] Yeah you can develop someone tell a whole story about their life

[00:17:45] And if you're doing sort of broad

[00:17:46] Unsettled story time

[00:17:47] What we were saying is like

[00:17:48] It's a kid's show and it's mythical

[00:17:49] And it's sort of like

[00:17:50] You know broad strokes and whatever

[00:17:52] But if you're going slowly like that

[00:17:54] You can still build up emotional connections to the characters

[00:17:56] Whereas if the characters are this broad

[00:17:58] And like 17 things are happening per minute

[00:18:01] It's just white noise

[00:18:03] Um but so at the time when I

[00:18:05] At least when I auditioned

[00:18:06] And I had like three pages to read

[00:18:08] Because the script was under lock and key

[00:18:09] This is what I knew right

[00:18:10] I watched the thing I was like

[00:18:11] Okay this guy's the funny guy

[00:18:13] I can just stand here and say funny stuff

[00:18:15] The audition sides I had were mostly

[00:18:17] Him making jokes about what was going on

[00:18:19] Not in like a wisecracking way

[00:18:21] But like he was the character who called out the reality

[00:18:23] So the audience could relate to this crazy world

[00:18:26] And being like what's that flying dog thing

[00:18:29] Like jokes like that right

[00:18:30] And it was like okay so that's like the tone of the thing

[00:18:32] I guess this and that

[00:18:33] And I just watched the cartoon

[00:18:34] I was like this seems pretty connective

[00:18:36] The first 15 minutes of this movie are like

[00:18:38] Direct translation of the first 15 minutes

[00:18:40] Of the first episode

[00:18:42] In a way where I knew he was trying to

[00:18:44] Adapt the whole first season

[00:18:45] And I was like

[00:18:46] There's no way you're going to catch up with this

[00:18:47] Because you're going like

[00:18:48] Well so it's the thing where he like

[00:18:49] Was writing on a sign and the letters were big

[00:18:51] And then he just started making the letters really small

[00:18:53] And then he had to start making the letters smaller

[00:18:54] To fit them all in

[00:18:55] You know what it says

[00:18:56] Interesting I think like

[00:18:57] It shows you how much of a genius Christopher Nolan is

[00:18:59] And that like he understood like

[00:19:01] You take the elements and not the actual story

[00:19:03] I think about like when he did

[00:19:05] This whole last three Batman movies

[00:19:07] Like he didn't just take one comic

[00:19:09] And just transcribe it

[00:19:10] He had to like combine 15 different stories

[00:19:12] Yeah that's male of symphony

[00:19:14] This is a different medium

[00:19:15] And if you're going to make it work

[00:19:17] You got to like adapt it

[00:19:18] And change the story

[00:19:19] And not just try to do the same thing

[00:19:22] But when I was auditioning

[00:19:24] What they were saying was

[00:19:25] The plan was

[00:19:26] They were going to make

[00:19:27] Three movies

[00:19:29] The plan at the onset

[00:19:31] And they said that out loud

[00:19:32] You know like Shyamalan keeps talking about

[00:19:34] He's going to make a second one

[00:19:35] But the original plan was

[00:19:36] And this was two years before the movie came out

[00:19:38] So I think it stopped and started a few times

[00:19:40] Between when I auditioned

[00:19:42] When it actually came out

[00:19:43] Yeah

[00:19:44] Their plan was

[00:19:45] They were going to make it Lord of the Ring style

[00:19:47] And they were going to shoot

[00:19:48] Three movies at the same time

[00:19:49] Like they were going to commit

[00:19:51] Whole hog to the big picture

[00:19:52] Right

[00:19:53] And he had like

[00:19:54] I don't know if he had written all three scripts

[00:19:56] But he had it blocked out of like

[00:19:57] How he was adapting all three movies

[00:19:59] Ooh, I can see that

[00:20:00] That makes sense

[00:20:01] It's a horrible idea

[00:20:02] But it makes sense

[00:20:03] Right

[00:20:04] Lord of the Rings was the one kisser that worked

[00:20:05] But like it

[00:20:06] You know it's crazy that it worked

[00:20:08] Yeah

[00:20:09] And the whole thing there was

[00:20:10] They saved money making those movies

[00:20:12] Because they made all three at the same time

[00:20:14] Like if the first one had bombed

[00:20:16] They would have gone bankrupt as a company

[00:20:18] But once they worked

[00:20:20] Because they were able to like

[00:20:21] Build these sets

[00:20:22] And then keep them for two years

[00:20:23] And have all the actors under one contract

[00:20:25] They like saved money

[00:20:27] So this movie cost $150 million

[00:20:29] Right

[00:20:30] The original plan was to make three at once

[00:20:32] For $250 million

[00:20:33] And release them like one a year

[00:20:36] And then I think everyone sort of got cold feet about it

[00:20:40] Sure

[00:20:41] They were a little freaked out about it

[00:20:42] I think there was

[00:20:43] Wisely

[00:20:44] This whole thing of like

[00:20:45] You know once you're at that kind of budget

[00:20:47] You can't just be making a movie for kids

[00:20:49] You have to make something that like

[00:20:50] Grown-ups and teenagers want to see too

[00:20:52] And that whole Christopher Nolan tone thing

[00:20:54] I think came in with them being like

[00:20:56] We gotta make it seem more badass

[00:20:58] So like teenagers don't...

[00:21:00] Dark Knight comes out 08

[00:21:01] Around when they're making this

[00:21:02] And they don't want to like

[00:21:03] You have Nickelodeon stamped on the thing

[00:21:06] And a lot of like cynical 17 year olds

[00:21:08] Are gonna be like

[00:21:09] I don't want to fuck with Nickelodeon movie

[00:21:10] Even less 17 years old

[00:21:11] But like 26 year olds

[00:21:12] What's your audition story?

[00:21:14] Or do you not have an audition?

[00:21:15] It was just that when I auditioned

[00:21:16] The character was funny

[00:21:17] Oh sure

[00:21:18] Do you meet Knight?

[00:21:19] I didn't

[00:21:20] No, no, no

[00:21:22] Okay, but so the opening 15 minutes of this film

[00:21:24] We should just note they cast Jackson Rathbone

[00:21:26] Who's like 28

[00:21:27] Yeah

[00:21:28] He's supposed to be like a teenager

[00:21:29] Yeah, that was really wrong

[00:21:30] And he's like the 9th lead from Twilight

[00:21:32] Like that's all he is

[00:21:33] He's Jasper

[00:21:34] Yeah

[00:21:35] No the reason I brought up the audition thing

[00:21:36] Was A that they were trying to make all three

[00:21:38] At the same time

[00:21:39] And B that the script seemed fundamentally different

[00:21:41] At the time I auditioned

[00:21:42] So like a lot of shit changed

[00:21:43] You know

[00:21:44] But like when I auditioned

[00:21:45] I was like oh this seems like that cartoon show

[00:21:47] This seems like the right sort of idea

[00:21:50] First 15 minutes are like just the first episode

[00:21:53] Done almost like minute for minute

[00:21:55] They're in

[00:21:56] They're in the water village

[00:21:58] The ice town

[00:21:59] Yeah

[00:22:00] And I was like this is the one section of the movie

[00:22:02] That I think actually looks kind of epic

[00:22:04] And expensive

[00:22:05] Yeah, yeah

[00:22:06] They're like in this crazy ice environment

[00:22:08] It doesn't look CGI

[00:22:09] It looks like they really flew them to some place

[00:22:11] And dropped them off in the middle of nowhere

[00:22:13] Yeah, no it was a waste of time

[00:22:16] But it was there

[00:22:17] We were there

[00:22:18] This is like the prettiest part of the movie

[00:22:20] It looks like a movie

[00:22:21] Yeah they shot in Greenland

[00:22:22] Yeah

[00:22:23] And then guess where they shot after that

[00:22:25] Philadelphia

[00:22:26] Yep

[00:22:27] He never, yeah

[00:22:28] All of M. Night's movies are shot in Philadelphia

[00:22:30] M. Night's like obsessed with Philadelphia

[00:22:31] This is the first of songs that isn't set in Philadelphia

[00:22:34] Well he wants to be Woody Allen-y

[00:22:36] Yeah

[00:22:37] I mean every director wants to have like their things

[00:22:39] Right?

[00:22:40] I mean like

[00:22:41] I don't know

[00:22:42] Now that I'm in this system

[00:22:43] And then out of the system again

[00:22:44] Like I had this whole

[00:22:45] When I was like filmmaker in college

[00:22:46] I had this perception of filmmakers

[00:22:48] Like these holy creatures

[00:22:49] And now that I work in the system

[00:22:51] I'm like

[00:22:52] It just seems

[00:22:54] I can't talk shit

[00:22:55] Hold on, I gotta get work

[00:22:56] These are just people trying not to get fired

[00:22:58] Yeah they're just human beings

[00:22:59] They're all human beings

[00:23:00] It's just like they're just

[00:23:01] Yeah, I mean but I also think like

[00:23:02] Yeah you're right

[00:23:03] I want to see what happened

[00:23:04] How these things fucked up

[00:23:05] Cause you're right

[00:23:06] Like most people are capable of making it shit

[00:23:07] He knows how to tell a story

[00:23:08] So it almost goes like

[00:23:09] He told the story a few times

[00:23:10] So he knows how to tell a story

[00:23:11] So something else had to have gone

[00:23:14] Yeah

[00:23:15] Maybe it was the scale of it

[00:23:16] He's never worked on this scale before

[00:23:18] Should I just read this fucking thing I found

[00:23:20] Oh jeez

[00:23:21] I want to know what happened

[00:23:22] And then I can react off that

[00:23:23] Cause I really

[00:23:26] I was late to this podcast

[00:23:27] Because of how bad this movie was

[00:23:29] I was passive aggressive

[00:23:30] I was like man fuck this motherfucker

[00:23:32] Waste my whole Sunday

[00:23:34] Been doing drugs

[00:23:37] So this was the company story

[00:23:40] Right

[00:23:41] M Night's daughter was a fan of the show

[00:23:43] Yeah right

[00:23:44] She watched it together

[00:23:45] And he watched it

[00:23:46] And he was like this is really interesting

[00:23:48] He was at a weird point in his career

[00:23:50] He had sort of like fallen into this rut

[00:23:53] And he made it weirder

[00:23:54] Right and he made it weirder

[00:23:55] But he saw it and he felt like

[00:23:57] This is how he tells it

[00:23:58] He had this sense of like

[00:23:59] This could be like a Lord of the Rings

[00:24:01] Style like epic mythology

[00:24:03] Franchise thing

[00:24:04] And went to Paramount

[00:24:05] Went to Nickelodeon

[00:24:06] And the show was successful

[00:24:08] But it wasn't like

[00:24:10] SpongeBob where it like

[00:24:12] Transcended generations

[00:24:13] And it was so clear that it entered the public psyche

[00:24:16] Where it was like huge name brand thing

[00:24:18] It was a show with a very committed audience

[00:24:20] But you're also dealing with like

[00:24:22] A lot of kids who might grow out of it

[00:24:24] And then the adults are like whatever right

[00:24:26] So he goes to Paramount

[00:24:27] And he's like I want to make three movies

[00:24:28] 250 million dollars

[00:24:29] And there was a lot of back and forth

[00:24:31] Where they were like this is a big risk

[00:24:33] You're coming off of two big flops

[00:24:34] The one before that was successful

[00:24:36] But everyone hated it

[00:24:37] Like you know what

[00:24:38] So there's all this sort of nagling

[00:24:40] And then he cast

[00:24:43] Four white actors

[00:24:46] Then Jesse McCartney drops out

[00:24:49] Because of a scheduling conflicts with a concert tour

[00:24:52] And he cast Dev Patel

[00:24:53] And some dog had like just come out

[00:24:56] Like he was the guy

[00:24:58] And then they recast everyone else

[00:25:00] I don't know if they'd cast the other parts

[00:25:01] But they recast the villains around

[00:25:03] The fire tribe all around him

[00:25:05] So they all look like him

[00:25:06] Which then creates like

[00:25:08] And once again looked like him

[00:25:09] Not people of his ethnic background

[00:25:11] But just people who vaguely look like him

[00:25:14] There's not a lot of Indians working in acting

[00:25:16] So there was a handicap

[00:25:19] Then this is the first movie

[00:25:21] He's an Indian American

[00:25:22] The first movie he's made with Indians

[00:25:24] Basically since his debut

[00:25:25] Since his debut which he was the lead in

[00:25:27] Which was like a student film basically

[00:25:28] It's called Praying With Anger

[00:25:29] And it's M. Night Shyamalan

[00:25:30] Going to India to try to reconnect

[00:25:31] With like a sense of his father

[00:25:33] I remember reading about that

[00:25:35] Was it good?

[00:25:36] No

[00:25:37] You know it's better than this movie

[00:25:39] You know what? Who was the editor on Six Sense?

[00:25:41] Cause I bet you he has a good ass editor

[00:25:43] Who quit like

[00:25:45] You know what I mean? Like it's like

[00:25:46] You know what?

[00:25:47] D.V. Spilberg, remember Jaws?

[00:25:48] Wasn't it good?

[00:25:49] And the editor came in there

[00:25:50] That chick came in and cleaned it up

[00:25:51] Maybe he has a good clean up hitter

[00:25:53] Something happened

[00:25:54] Okay so this is from

[00:25:55] A last airbender message board

[00:25:56] Like a fan message board

[00:25:58] And the guy writes

[00:25:59] Production wrapped five years ago

[00:26:01] So I don't think Paramount's going to care

[00:26:02] They know it bombed

[00:26:03] Right cause he was like hinting at the fact

[00:26:05] That it starts from the set

[00:26:06] And they were like come on tell me

[00:26:07] It's like I don't know

[00:26:08] The confidentiality

[00:26:09] Sure

[00:26:10] Okay

[00:26:11] What it came down to was

[00:26:12] M. Night really was the only one

[00:26:13] Who knew the show and what he was doing

[00:26:15] The first draft of the screenplay

[00:26:17] Gorgeous

[00:26:18] Hence Breike giving him the okay

[00:26:19] Who I guess was whoever Green lit it

[00:26:21] At the studio

[00:26:22] The producers who are actually in charge

[00:26:23] Of at least 80% of production

[00:26:24] Including casting

[00:26:25] Not so much

[00:26:26] They clearly never bothered to watch the show

[00:26:28] Nor had the ghost writer

[00:26:29] Who did the final screenplay

[00:26:30] Oh shit

[00:26:31] Damn

[00:26:32] He doesn't have a lot of cloud

[00:26:33] At this point right

[00:26:34] Like they're giving him

[00:26:35] A big big budget

[00:26:36] And his last couple of movies are flops

[00:26:38] Oh fuck

[00:26:39] It took it away from

[00:26:40] Nikola

[00:26:41] Nicola whatever her name is

[00:26:42] Who plays Katana

[00:26:44] Yeah well she's the daughter

[00:26:45] Of like a really rich person right

[00:26:47] Was hired because she's the daughter

[00:26:48] Of someone one of the producers

[00:26:49] Ode to favor to his Hollywood

[00:26:50] Loves its nepotism

[00:26:51] Her father's like

[00:26:52] Is a billionaire

[00:26:53] Right

[00:26:54] Yeah he's like a financier

[00:26:55] I was reading about her

[00:26:56] It's funny cause Shyamalan said like

[00:26:58] I cast her because

[00:27:00] I've never seen a young actor

[00:27:01] This good since Hailey Jolosman

[00:27:03] Like I had to have her in my movie

[00:27:04] Like he gave some

[00:27:05] His quote was

[00:27:06] He did a lot of press for this movie too

[00:27:07] Like he didn't like

[00:27:08] I guess I fucked it up

[00:27:09] I gotta back off

[00:27:10] Like he was front and center

[00:27:11] Doing like kids choice awards

[00:27:12] Getting slimed

[00:27:13] Like he was fucking doing it

[00:27:15] But he said in interviews

[00:27:16] He was like

[00:27:17] When I saw her audition

[00:27:18] I said

[00:27:19] I can't make this movie

[00:27:20] Without this actor

[00:27:21] I refuse to make it

[00:27:22] Unless I can cast this person

[00:27:23] She's the only choice

[00:27:24] And the only time I ever said

[00:27:25] That otherwise was Hailey Jolosman

[00:27:27] Now I think nepotism

[00:27:28] In Hollywood is kind of like

[00:27:30] A bullshit often

[00:27:32] Because it's a money driven industry

[00:27:34] And like people don't care

[00:27:36] If your dad is whoever

[00:27:37] If you're not gonna make the money

[00:27:38] And there are a ton of

[00:27:39] Unsuccessful actors

[00:27:41] Who are the children of

[00:27:43] Huge movie stars

[00:27:44] Who have middling careers

[00:27:45] That I think are testaments to that

[00:27:46] Right?

[00:27:47] I'm gonna disagree with that little thing of

[00:27:49] I don't think it's a money driven industry

[00:27:50] I disagree

[00:27:51] I think it's a love driven industry

[00:27:53] Chris Rock said it best in the sense

[00:27:55] He said

[00:27:56] And I love this quote

[00:27:57] He was like

[00:27:58] This isn't a real business

[00:27:59] Like if you put in

[00:28:00] If you make double the

[00:28:02] That you put into the movie

[00:28:03] That's not a real profit

[00:28:04] Your shoes cost $4 to make

[00:28:06] They charge you $84

[00:28:07] That's a real profit

[00:28:09] This is a job of love

[00:28:11] We are lit

[00:28:12] I mean this is

[00:28:13] Now I'm adding to the point

[00:28:14] We're gestures

[00:28:15] We're still court gestures

[00:28:16] We're just overpaid court gestures

[00:28:18] But we're really still

[00:28:19] Only dancing than 1%

[00:28:20] Because they're the only ones

[00:28:21] Gonna afford to make these movies

[00:28:22] And yes

[00:28:23] I mean

[00:28:24] The middle class of the world

[00:28:25] They get to give money to us

[00:28:26] A little bit but

[00:28:27] I mean we're not appealing to them

[00:28:28] We're appealing to those

[00:28:30] And some of these movies

[00:28:31] Don't make any money

[00:28:32] Like such as The Last Airbag

[00:28:33] That's why

[00:28:34] Yeah

[00:28:35] What do you think that billionaire

[00:28:36] Daughter's in there for a reason?

[00:28:37] She's in there for a reason

[00:28:39] That's the point I want to correct

[00:28:41] Is like

[00:28:43] Everyone who does it

[00:28:45] At the level that we do it

[00:28:46] Does it because we love it

[00:28:47] Because otherwise we do anything else

[00:28:48] That's easier

[00:28:49] And has a clear path to success

[00:28:50] Absolutely

[00:28:51] We love it

[00:28:52] And we're also broken people

[00:28:53] Who don't know how to do anything else

[00:28:54] We're fucked at this point

[00:28:55] Right

[00:28:56] But like at an executive level

[00:28:57] Those people just want to make money

[00:28:58] Like the people who are

[00:28:59] Putting the stamp down and going

[00:29:01] Yes M. Knight you can make this

[00:29:02] You can't make this

[00:29:03] In the sense that

[00:29:05] They want to make money for the company

[00:29:06] Because their job is to not get fired

[00:29:07] Absolutely

[00:29:08] And there's crazy turnover

[00:29:09] I agree on that

[00:29:10] I just simply

[00:29:11] I just don't understand how they

[00:29:12] Feel that way

[00:29:13] I'm wondering where it comes from

[00:29:14] I know where it comes from

[00:29:15] Oh it's the same

[00:29:16] It's just like weird how

[00:29:17] The fear

[00:29:18] And then it just like

[00:29:19] Metastasize into like

[00:29:20] Being your entire race and datra

[00:29:21] Yeah

[00:29:22] And being an artist now

[00:29:23] I realize how much

[00:29:24] If you make decisions based off

[00:29:25] Of your how much it fucks up

[00:29:26] Your art every time

[00:29:27] You never make anything good

[00:29:28] When you go

[00:29:29] Oh maybe we shouldn't

[00:29:30] When you say

[00:29:31] We should just give up

[00:29:32] Cause you're done

[00:29:33] It's not gonna be good

[00:29:34] Whatever you do

[00:29:35] It's not gonna be good

[00:29:36] And I've been saying

[00:29:37] The last couple of weeks on the podcast

[00:29:38] There's this turning point

[00:29:39] That I think happens

[00:29:40] Like

[00:29:41] Late in the water

[00:29:42] But definitely is in effect

[00:29:43] With the happening

[00:29:44] Where like M. Knight used to be

[00:29:45] The guy who makes scary movies

[00:29:46] And then he becomes

[00:29:47] The guy whose movies seem scared

[00:29:48] Like he seems terrified

[00:29:49] By the choices he's making

[00:29:50] This movie seems a little scary

[00:29:51] Very uncertain

[00:29:52] You know

[00:29:53] I agree with that

[00:29:54] Her father

[00:29:55] Go ahead

[00:29:56] You're doing things right

[00:29:57] You gotta do things just bold

[00:29:58] Go ahead

[00:29:59] We just got a fucking instincts

[00:30:00] You know

[00:30:01] Cause that's like

[00:30:02] Whatever got you where

[00:30:03] You were in the first place

[00:30:04] Was whatever innate instincts

[00:30:05] You have rather than like

[00:30:06] You know didactically

[00:30:07] Thinking through it

[00:30:08] There's a reason why

[00:30:09] Crazy people are successful

[00:30:10] In this business

[00:30:11] Because they look at fear

[00:30:12] Different than the rest of us

[00:30:13] They see fear and go

[00:30:14] Yeah let's do it

[00:30:15] Yeah

[00:30:16] Look at all that fear

[00:30:17] I think he's like that

[00:30:18] A little bit

[00:30:19] I think so too

[00:30:20] Yeah

[00:30:21] You have to be

[00:30:22] To be like

[00:30:23] Give me 250 million bucks

[00:30:24] I'll make you three movies

[00:30:25] In miserable fucking life

[00:30:26] But to that point

[00:30:27] When you're asking for 250 million

[00:30:28] Dollars and they had a paramount

[00:30:29] It's like

[00:30:30] Hey this guy's got a lot of money

[00:30:31] His daughter wants to be in the movie

[00:30:33] Yeah

[00:30:34] You wanna make it work

[00:30:35] Let's make it work

[00:30:36] Some kind of handshake deal

[00:30:37] They said it was a favor

[00:30:38] But it also might have been

[00:30:39] Some sort of thing where

[00:30:40] Like he pitched him with the budget

[00:30:41] Or whatever

[00:30:42] Finish your thing

[00:30:43] I wanna make one point too

[00:30:44] Who gives a fuck

[00:30:45] Like I really honestly

[00:30:46] I'm on his side

[00:30:47] Especially if they're good

[00:30:48] Whatever

[00:30:49] I mean she's not good

[00:30:50] But nobody's good

[00:30:51] Like literally

[00:30:52] Like what's so important

[00:30:53] Like artistically sure

[00:30:54] Like I'm gonna die

[00:30:55] Here's the point

[00:30:56] They're getting to

[00:30:57] Oh agreed 100%

[00:30:58] We're all gonna die

[00:30:59] I agree to see

[00:31:00] We are all gonna die

[00:31:01] She's still around that actress

[00:31:02] It's not like she just vanished

[00:31:03] She's like on Bates Motel

[00:31:04] And she was the young female lead

[00:31:06] In Transformers Age of Extinction

[00:31:08] Who the guy has to argue

[00:31:09] He's able to fuck

[00:31:10] Because of Romeo and Juliet

[00:31:11] Have you seen that movie?

[00:31:12] No I only saw one of the Transformers

[00:31:15] Is it good?

[00:31:16] No it's not good

[00:31:17] She plays Mark Wahlberg's daughter

[00:31:19] And he finds out she has a boyfriend

[00:31:21] Oh god can I just sidebar

[00:31:23] Please

[00:31:24] Transformers Age of Extinction

[00:31:25] Why are you rushing through this podcast?

[00:31:26] Where do you got to go?

[00:31:27] Because I know how long these podcasts can take

[00:31:30] I like sidebars too

[00:31:31] Transformers Age of Extinction right

[00:31:33] Mark Wahlberg was supposed to have had this daughter

[00:31:36] When he was in high school

[00:31:37] Which is not correct

[00:31:38] Because she's 20 and Mark Wahlberg's like 47

[00:31:40] Right

[00:31:41] But the idea is prom night

[00:31:43] Before prom night

[00:31:44] She was his high school girlfriend

[00:31:46] Was pregnant with this girl

[00:31:47] Nicola Peltz

[00:31:48] And died in labor

[00:31:50] I forgot about all this yeah

[00:31:51] Right

[00:31:52] And Mark Wahlberg doesn't allow her to have a boyfriend

[00:31:54] Single dad doesn't let her have a boyfriend

[00:31:56] Because he's like if you have a boyfriend

[00:31:57] You're going to die before your prom night

[00:31:58] And also he's an inventor

[00:31:59] He's an inventor of course

[00:32:00] He's a Texan inventor

[00:32:01] Played by Mark Wahlberg

[00:32:02] That's an insane person

[00:32:03] Who's supposed to be like 34 years old

[00:32:06] Within the reality of the film right

[00:32:08] And he doesn't want his daughter to date anybody

[00:32:10] Because then he's afraid she'll die before prom night

[00:32:12] Wow

[00:32:13] And then she finds out

[00:32:14] He finds out that she has a secret boyfriend

[00:32:16] When like the robot started attacking

[00:32:18] And they all have to like

[00:32:19] He comes to rescue her

[00:32:20] And then they all open up a car together

[00:32:21] And he's like wait a second how old are you

[00:32:23] And he's like I'm 24

[00:32:25] And he's like fuck it Romeo and Julie

[00:32:27] Oh no he doesn't say Romeo and Julie

[00:32:29] He goes fucking illegal I'm going to have you arrested

[00:32:31] You're fucking my daughter she's underage

[00:32:32] And the guy opens up his wallet

[00:32:34] And takes out a laminated card

[00:32:36] With the laws the Romeo and Juliet laws

[00:32:39] That state that even if a person is under age

[00:32:42] If they are consenting

[00:32:43] And the other person is within five years of their age

[00:32:45] It's legal

[00:32:46] Ew

[00:32:47] And Michael Bay has like a fucking 15 second close up

[00:32:50] Of fine legalese like print

[00:32:52] On a laminated car saying like

[00:32:54] This is why it's okay for this guy to fuck this 17 year old

[00:32:57] That's gross

[00:32:58] So that's where her career is at

[00:33:00] Nah

[00:33:01] She's that character

[00:33:02] Here's you said why does it matter

[00:33:03] Nicola was hired because she's the daughter of someone

[00:33:05] The priestess of it

[00:33:06] Nepertism her audition date was so far best

[00:33:08] In having to cast her they had to cast a guy

[00:33:10] Who could pass as her brother

[00:33:12] Hence Jackson

[00:33:13] Oh I see okay

[00:33:14] So because she was the first piece

[00:33:15] The cast started becoming whiter

[00:33:16] Because they had to cast around her

[00:33:18] No but they also cast

[00:33:20] Agree well

[00:33:21] This little you know kid

[00:33:23] Because he had like a Korean like

[00:33:25] Martial arts video that he like sent in

[00:33:27] But he's totally white

[00:33:28] His audition was actually pretty funny

[00:33:30] He's a funny guy clearly seen the show

[00:33:32] Too bad the producers felt the movie didn't have time for intentional humor

[00:33:35] And cut all of that out of the script

[00:33:37] Noel was the only one who was honestly openly auditioned

[00:33:40] Was chosen based on talent

[00:33:41] He just need extra help acting

[00:33:43] Because with a lot of it being green screened

[00:33:44] He was talking to air a lot of the time

[00:33:46] That's the kid who plays on he plays the main character

[00:33:49] And he was basically cast because he could do all these martial arts

[00:33:52] He had a shaved head

[00:33:53] And he shaved his head and he drew an arrow on it

[00:33:55] And he did a video

[00:33:56] That's how you get a fucking role

[00:33:57] That's how you get a role

[00:33:58] That's how you get a role

[00:33:59] That's how you get a dressed apart man leave no imagination

[00:34:00] Give a fuck

[00:34:01] And he did it

[00:34:02] And dude less than actors

[00:34:03] Dude super Caucasian but kinda

[00:34:05] He's got a funny face

[00:34:07] I don't know how many things to put it

[00:34:08] That's the thing like he's like

[00:34:10] He's one of those actors who in 1940

[00:34:12] They would have cast a play every different ethnicity

[00:34:14] He's like cheeks

[00:34:15] He's sort of chubby cheeks

[00:34:16] And it kinda

[00:34:17] I don't know how to describe him

[00:34:18] He is sort of funny looking

[00:34:19] If you recall they initially signed on Jesse McCartney as Zuko

[00:34:22] Why?

[00:34:23] Because otherwise the lead actor roster would be

[00:34:25] Starring two unknown kids you've never heard of

[00:34:27] And that guy who played a minor character in Twilight

[00:34:29] So Jesse McCartney was supposed to be the name and the cast

[00:34:31] And someone with a brain realized

[00:34:33] Wait a minute

[00:34:34] The show is kind of anime-esque

[00:34:35] And we're hiring a bunch of white kids

[00:34:36] So what do they do?

[00:34:37] It took them that long to get that

[00:34:39] Okay go ahead

[00:34:40] They'd already announced he had been castin' everything

[00:34:41] Because they couldn't get Nikola without someone being really ticked

[00:34:43] Jesse willingly bowed out and went with another project offered at the time

[00:34:47] Which I think might have been a movie I was in with him

[00:34:50] Even still

[00:34:52] You just want to say that sentence one day huh?

[00:34:53] Yeah

[00:34:54] I'd have been the movie with him I don't remember

[00:34:56] No because I was working with him and he was like

[00:34:58] Yeah I wish I could have done it

[00:34:59] It was great script but you know just

[00:35:01] Recording my new album and I was like

[00:35:03] But then why are you here working on an indie

[00:35:06] Where you don't have your own dressing room

[00:35:07] But where the Gonzo is a high school movie

[00:35:08] Oh yeah sure

[00:35:09] I gotta learn how to bullshit better

[00:35:10] I'd be telling you truthful shit

[00:35:12] Yeah I can't believe he kept that up even on the set of

[00:35:14] But where the Gonzo wow

[00:35:16] Look I'm not accusing a lot I don't know

[00:35:17] Time line might be wrong

[00:35:18] Whatever

[00:35:19] Even still they needed

[00:35:20] They needed another name

[00:35:22] There couldn't be another white kid

[00:35:23] Def Patel this guy misidentifies it

[00:35:25] Just given Oscar winning performance

[00:35:26] Which he wasn't even nominated

[00:35:27] So when you say on

[00:35:28] Getting him they had to match the rest of the Fire Nation

[00:35:31] Which is why I turned to heroic white kids

[00:35:33] Versus evil brown people

[00:35:34] And then it was horribly budgeted

[00:35:36] The opening all nice and pretty in Greenland

[00:35:38] Costs big bucks

[00:35:39] And then they realized with a story about people

[00:35:40] Manipulating elements that couldn't believably be done

[00:35:42] In camera with practical effects

[00:35:44] They had to re-budget and give most of them

[00:35:46] To ILM for post production

[00:35:47] Wow

[00:35:48] So they like while shooting realize

[00:35:50] We don't have the money to shoot the things we want to shoot

[00:35:52] Because we have to allocate that money for later

[00:35:54] Every set is crazy

[00:35:55] It's all green screen but it's like

[00:35:57] You gotta be in like an ice temple

[00:35:58] You gotta be in a fire boat

[00:36:00] Everything's like

[00:36:01] Yeah but we've been doing movies long enough

[00:36:03] We could shake that

[00:36:04] And then you could plant

[00:36:05] Of course

[00:36:06] Sucking student film people can make

[00:36:07] A fucking ice temple look

[00:36:08] But you gotta

[00:36:09] You gotta plant that

[00:36:10] You gotta plant a head

[00:36:11] You gotta be in the middle of a say and go

[00:36:12] Oh shit

[00:36:14] You go from the beautiful SWT

[00:36:16] Which I guess is where they were in Greenland

[00:36:18] To everything looking dingy

[00:36:19] Because everything else was shot in Pennsylvania

[00:36:21] The Fire Nation Royal Palace

[00:36:23] And old high school in Philadelphia

[00:36:25] That's crazy

[00:36:26] They like converted this high school

[00:36:27] And put fucking green screens up

[00:36:29] To like then later on add

[00:36:31] You barely see it

[00:36:32] It's just some pillars

[00:36:33] Parts of the Earth Kingdom

[00:36:34] Reading Pennsylvania

[00:36:35] Everything that was

[00:36:36] Not then W2 was some sets built in front

[00:36:38] Of a giant green screen

[00:36:39] Old empty aircraft hangar

[00:36:40] Yatscripts of Philadelphia

[00:36:42] ILM was rushed despite most of the movie

[00:36:44] Being left up to them

[00:36:46] You had novice directors high by producers

[00:36:47] To oversee that process

[00:36:48] That's how come the pebble dance happened

[00:36:50] Sadly I don't even know what that's referencing

[00:36:52] The pebble dance?

[00:36:53] Isn't that the bit in the Earth Nation

[00:36:54] Where they're kind of like lobbing

[00:36:56] Pebbles at each other?

[00:36:57] I don't know

[00:36:58] Sadly at that point M. Night

[00:36:59] Was just tired of arguing with the overheads

[00:37:01] Gave up and collected his paycheck

[00:37:03] If you look at the movies premiere

[00:37:04] And read carpet footage

[00:37:05] And you can tell his excitement and happiness is fake

[00:37:07] Bright kid will say in the film

[00:37:08] Despite being Lissa's executive producers

[00:37:10] That title

[00:37:12] Is that supposed to be Kathy Kennedy?

[00:37:14] Is that what they mean by bright?

[00:37:15] I don't know

[00:37:16] No, that's like the people

[00:37:18] The avatar people

[00:37:19] The creators of the show

[00:37:20] Yeah cool

[00:37:21] That title was a fancy way of saying

[00:37:22] They created the show

[00:37:23] And it was based on this and that

[00:37:24] The actual producers who were

[00:37:26] Kathy Kennedy and Frank Marshall

[00:37:28] Didn't know what they were dealing with

[00:37:29] Or only interested in Quick Buck

[00:37:30] Bright and M. Night gave up on the film

[00:37:32] For the same reasons other people

[00:37:33] Worked on the film were pain to deal

[00:37:34] With the Marvel phony

[00:37:35] And a lot of various characters

[00:37:36] How the film blundered

[00:37:37] Them as they would just

[00:37:38] Wrote their own lines

[00:37:39] Just playing themselves

[00:37:40] Only wanted to file a product

[00:37:41] As quickly as possible

[00:37:42] And the money would presumably make them

[00:37:43] And then the last sentence is

[00:37:44] At least they hired good caterers

[00:37:45] The food was great on that set

[00:37:46] That's important though

[00:37:47] Yeah

[00:37:48] You put some good food on a set

[00:37:49] You could tolerate a lot of bullshit

[00:37:50] So that's really depressing

[00:37:51] It is

[00:37:52] It's a sad story

[00:37:53] It's like super, super depressing

[00:37:54] It's not surprising

[00:37:55] It's not surprising

[00:37:56] It sounds like he really did want

[00:37:57] To do it

[00:37:58] No, I know a bit

[00:37:59] And probably had

[00:38:00] Look, the guy says

[00:38:01] First script was gorgeous

[00:38:02] I don't know if it was

[00:38:03] I haven't read the first two pages of the fucking script.

[00:38:06] It was more faithful, it was a little better.

[00:38:08] That felt fundamentally like a film that would be fun to watch.

[00:38:10] What publisher just says, you know what this movie doesn't need humor?

[00:38:12] Like what kind of a decision is that to make?

[00:38:15] Okay so I went back and read some Vulture interviews with him from the time of the release of the film

[00:38:18] because I was like they're saying he was defeated by the time he was promoting is that true

[00:38:21] and they said you know talk about the difference in tone and he went well

[00:38:24] the show is really like slapsticky like it has a lot of broad comedy in it

[00:38:27] and I felt like that's more for kids and it wouldn't work within this context

[00:38:31] but it feels like to me they hired the DP who shot Lord of the Rings for this movie

[00:38:35] right?

[00:38:36] This is coming off the Christopher Nolan boom of like everything's got to be gritty and realistic

[00:38:41] and literally dark.

[00:38:43] They also had this plan to do like here's a big epic story in advance we could do three

[00:38:47] films fuck it let's do one at a time but the plan is still this movie is kind of

[00:38:51] one third of a story and it even starts with like there's the opening title and

[00:38:55] then it says book one water and if you haven't watched the cartoon show you're like

[00:38:58] book what?

[00:38:59] What are you talking about?

[00:39:00] It's paid full ticket price for a movie I'm only getting one book?

[00:39:04] What are you talking about?

[00:39:06] But that's Lord of the Ringsy.

[00:39:08] I think once they put that money into it they got scared and they were like we have

[00:39:11] to make sure this is not kiddie-ish as possible so that doesn't just appeal to Nickelodeon

[00:39:16] fans so in doing that they were like let's take anything that's fun out of this movie

[00:39:20] you know?

[00:39:21] But the movie's not violent no like it's not like anything crazy happens right

[00:39:25] because they can't go it's a PG movie it's rated PG so like I mean they say Asif Manvi

[00:39:31] dies at the end someone says like he died and I'm like he's in a water bubble.

[00:39:35] He's dead?

[00:39:36] I didn't get that one.

[00:39:39] You gave up on this movie.

[00:39:40] Oh my god yeah I remember the cartoon I kept going up like I just go I don't know I just

[00:39:46] the angles and the cameras was like you're not even trying it seemed like they weren't

[00:39:51] even trying to make a good shot.

[00:39:53] It blocks every single fight the exact same way.

[00:39:55] Yeah like the novice director thing makes sense and I was like oh yeah he's probably the executive

[00:40:00] like I got when I hear George Lucas talk about making Star Wars he said he felt more like

[00:40:04] an executive more than a director because he was just a lot of deliating like yeah you

[00:40:08] direct that you direct that.

[00:40:09] I think he had always been hands-on cause his films weren't really effect see you

[00:40:12] know they're very practical and they're actor based you know even the horror films

[00:40:15] are like the horror comes from the angle of the camera the shadow of the person

[00:40:19] it's things that you can deal with that are tangible on set right and this I

[00:40:22] think was a lot of delegating with like special effects teams and second unit

[00:40:26] directors and these huge productions and also if you're fucking two weeks into

[00:40:30] filming and they're like oh M. Night we just realized we can't use these six

[00:40:33] locations you wanted like we were gonna fly from Greenland to like New Zealand

[00:40:37] or whatever and film there and now we have to use a fucking what where do

[00:40:41] we use it goes I don't know I know a good high school in Philadelphia we

[00:40:44] could film there you know I think the guy's just losing his mind while

[00:40:47] he's filming it trying not to have a breakdown and like you say like they

[00:40:50] had to get it out and at a certain point it was like okay all right what are

[00:40:55] y'all is a fucking genius well he knows not to make the last airbender yeah he

[00:41:00] just knows how to just go like no I'm not gonna make those big-ass movies stuff

[00:41:03] stressing me out give me a few dollars leave me alone right right not heard the

[00:41:07] coolest thing about him that he he figures out where he wants to have

[00:41:10] vacation the next summer and that's where he's just yeah I love that

[00:41:13] you know something what he on does I know what the odds of very

[00:41:15] controversial figure but inarguably he has never made the last airbender

[00:41:20] yeah you know like you can't argue with it long career it's a long career

[00:41:25] yeah many chances to make the airbender yeah he makes a movie a year yeah like

[00:41:30] with that kind of odds almost anyone would make the last airbender but he

[00:41:33] knows like actors want to work with him all actors who work with him agree

[00:41:37] to do it for scale so his budgets are small and he's able to get like eight

[00:41:41] big actors and then he goes to foreign financers and he's like I got eight

[00:41:44] big actors and they're like great we'll give you the money he picks

[00:41:46] the place where he wants a vacation he always has a script ready to go so

[00:41:49] we can start as soon as the last one finishes he also really smartly this

[00:41:53] is a thing that other people don't do he fucking budgets in from the

[00:41:56] beginning like three weeks of reshoot huh I know because he's like I

[00:42:02] do not trust myself to not fuck this up the first time and so there are

[00:42:07] tons of times where like he's purple rose of Cairo was originally

[00:42:11] supposed to be Michael Keaton playing the Jeff Daniels part Michael Keaton

[00:42:15] one of my absolute favorite actors of all time he was coming off this

[00:42:19] like he ever wanted Michael Keaton cast him in the role and then was like

[00:42:22] this guy's way too modern this movie takes place in like the Great Depression

[00:42:26] Michael Keaton's innately a modern guy and it wasn't working for him so he

[00:42:31] was like I'm sorry three weeks of footage cut out and he had the budget

[00:42:35] to start over the movie from scratch and cast Jeff Daniels and similarly

[00:42:39] there was a thing with Diane Weist bullets over Broadway where like

[00:42:42] first three weeks the performance wasn't working and she was like I

[00:42:46] think I don't know this character I can't do this you should just fire me

[00:42:50] and hire someone else and he's like what if we just started over and you

[00:42:53] just come with a different take started over she wins the fucking Oscar

[00:42:59] and I was on a moving train that he couldn't like stop and he couldn't

[00:43:03] steer in a different direction I think money a money destroys art I think

[00:43:06] like like even in comedy like once you start doing arenas is not funny

[00:43:10] anymore yeah once you start doing big budgets like a big budget comedy

[00:43:12] is the gross well you're just trying to manage too many things like it

[00:43:16] yeah I'm sorry I'm just thinking about my own career now I had to leave this

[00:43:19] fucking conversation for the movie how can this affect me how can I learn

[00:43:23] but uh but yeah no there is that thing where it's like okay Nickelodeon

[00:43:27] has their own like opinions Paramount has their own opinions they want

[00:43:31] to have a Lord of the Rings they weren't doing that well at the time

[00:43:34] and I try to do this own thing for his career is got Kenny Marshall who

[00:43:37] did like fucking Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park and they're coming

[00:43:40] in being like this could be another big franchise for us and there were

[00:43:43] all these expectations of like when you're saying not just like oh we hope

[00:43:46] we can make sequels of this one does well but this is part one of a three

[00:43:50] part story and this movie does not really function unless we make the other

[00:43:54] two parts then everyone's so worried the whole time that I think like all

[00:44:00] risk goes out of the proposition because it's like we just got to

[00:44:02] fucking protect our dollar and I even think can I find this quote

[00:44:06] so the movies an hour and a half right yeah hour 48 hour 40 yeah

[00:44:10] but 10 minutes of credits really I die that many I clocked this yeah it's

[00:44:14] actually 10 minutes of credits and with a lot of effects they do like a lot

[00:44:19] of like better I was good right not a band but the cartoon show is what I

[00:44:27] mean it's like a how many episodes of the first season it's fucking long

[00:44:31] 13 or 26 one of those kind of numbers right so it's like it's like

[00:44:35] multiple hours 22 22 episodes yeah like eight hours or something

[00:44:39] like that yeah at least and there's a lot of story there and he decided to

[00:44:48] like you know rather than you're already gonna have to condense it a lot to make

[00:44:52] one film he makes it into an hour and a half it's already seven samurai on the

[00:44:56] good side it's already right it's already gonna be three and a half

[00:44:59] right already yeah yeah which like you know Roger Ebert always famously said

[00:45:04] no good movies too short and no bad movies no good movies too long and

[00:45:08] no bad movies too short like there people were like I don't want to fucking

[00:45:12] watch a three-hour movie but that movie is great you want to watch a three-hour

[00:45:14] interstellar I watched twice day one that shit you saw twice day I saw it on the

[00:45:18] plane there with you and then I landed you got yourself to a movie theater

[00:45:22] I land on my girlfriend I was like my house is great with my have a great TV

[00:45:25] so they girlfriend we're downloading this we're watching this right now and we

[00:45:27] watch it and it was just as good if not better the second time absolutely

[00:45:30] moves I love interstellar love that million dollar baby moves it's like

[00:45:34] that whenever like the some I agree with you what you're saying completely yeah

[00:45:38] doesn't matter how long a movie is right it just needs to get you into it needs

[00:45:41] to have the right energy yeah top five at that same editing even though it's a

[00:45:45] shorter movie but that blue I like bleeding you know we're like the sound

[00:45:47] first year of the sound then they cut it's always like what's going on no

[00:45:51] time out can I tell another sidebar story oh my yeah okay alright so see

[00:45:55] tonight we're on the second we were like oh we're gonna be big stars

[00:45:57] everyone was like big stars and we were talking about like which lines we

[00:46:00] were saying we're gonna be on t-shirts and stuff sitting in a park

[00:46:04] outside hotel being like we got to like brace ourselves because it was the first

[00:46:08] day do you remember the first day where they did the sexual harassment seminar

[00:46:11] three hours sexual I just did that twice cuz we know for Fox yeah and the

[00:46:16] NBC this was we were on a show for NBC NBC passed on it and then Fox picked it

[00:46:20] up and then we're like no Jews and kicked me out that's not even true they

[00:46:23] hired a different Jew but I they were like no Griffin and then you

[00:46:27] continue doing it on Fox but they we had this sexual harassment seminar

[00:46:31] where like they were going through the list of all the stuff and they were

[00:46:34] like you know this and that this and that if you say this you'll be sued if

[00:46:37] you make a joke like they were like so Griffin if you were to say an

[00:46:40] inappropriate joke to Seton but there was a crew member on set who overheard

[00:46:43] it even it wasn't directed towards them they could sue us as a company for

[00:46:47] creating a hostile work environment yeah and one of us was like but what's

[00:46:51] the chance of that actually happening and they were like it's going to

[00:46:53] happen you're like leads on a big sitcom it's gonna happen yeah yeah

[00:46:57] I was completely like I was really down to fuck one of the extras that was my

[00:47:00] dream I wasn't about to do but that shit ruined it I couldn't even I was like

[00:47:04] I'm gonna get sued but I remember we sat in the car after that and we were like

[00:47:08] they're like telling us that everyone's gonna try to sue us now like I just

[00:47:12] became that level of whatever where people are gonna be trying to extort

[00:47:15] money out of me yeah that's it was that reminds me when I was like my

[00:47:20] first went to Howard University in 2000 in Washington DC was right before

[00:47:25] people started moving in so I was it was like on that it was still violent it was

[00:47:28] fun for freshman orientation they would just sit us in this room they were like

[00:47:32] listen they'll point that street right here the suggestion to our this building

[00:47:37] if you walk down there alone you will get robbed and then they pointed see up

[00:47:42] north that street if you walk down a hard part by yourself you will be robbed

[00:47:45] that's what this is like she was like you will be sued yeah no it was it

[00:47:49] was it was awesome yeah if you eat a hot dog you will be sued it's like why

[00:47:53] it's too phallic someone's gonna sue you if you eat a hot dog do you but do you

[00:47:57] want to tell the top five story which one well just I mean the basic setup was

[00:48:02] like so we're on this thing everyone's like rubbing our shoulders being like

[00:48:05] you can be huge oh yes yes right and then we like a month later like the

[00:48:11] fucking ball drops and suddenly we're like nothing and then two months later

[00:48:15] we both get hired onto top five and I have a first rock movie right I had

[00:48:20] auditioned with five lines and then it became one line and then I was cut

[00:48:22] out of the film yes yes you had auditioned for a role I was just for five

[00:48:27] roles and I got none of the five and they're offering me a stand-in role so I

[00:48:34] got to be a stand-in and then it kind of worked out you were fake Chris rock

[00:48:38] when Chris walk want to be behind the camera yes I would yes you would occupy

[00:48:43] his face I will play Chris I there's one scene where I put on one of the

[00:48:46] bear the bear head and do cocaine that was my hands dancing yeah and so I

[00:48:53] got I got I got like two or three jokes in in the movie which made me feel good

[00:48:56] but the scene I was it you audition for something and then Josh called you up

[00:49:00] and was like hey I don't know how this happened but somehow they thought you

[00:49:02] were auditioning for a stand-in so they offered you the role wasn't that

[00:49:06] what happened it was something sad like that they were just like they were

[00:49:11] we kind of negotiated a deal actually more or less like all right if you

[00:49:14] do this then we'll give you a little like you some FaceTime on camera yeah and

[00:49:18] and you know oh they said it would be a line so I ended up getting FaceTime

[00:49:22] which was it was fine I was my ego let me tell you my ego is low I really like

[00:49:26] to play you're one of the actors in that Turner movie right that's what it's

[00:49:30] yeah okay but but also I mean you got to fucking spend two months with like

[00:49:34] all the best comedians alive once I got my ego out of the way I realized

[00:49:37] I mean there were scenes where like there were parts where said you think

[00:49:40] entertainer was talking about the Kings of Comedy tour no actually knows

[00:49:42] what happened I was sitting with the writers because Jeffrey Joseph and a few

[00:49:45] of the writers I know we were sitting talking and then Chris would come over

[00:49:47] because you know we're all equal for some reason and we just talking shit and

[00:49:51] all of a sudden they're like talking about the Kings of Comedy tour was

[00:49:54] I'm you know obsessed with and then and then Chris was like you know let's

[00:49:57] ask Cedric about it so we all get up from the table walk over to Cedric

[00:50:00] the entertainer's table and Cedric tells us stories from the you know

[00:50:02] that's the kind of day it was being I was like this is fucking really awesome

[00:50:06] hang out and then like what's his name um Rosario Dawson's mom is

[00:50:10] really loving and so she cooks like food sometimes the entire cryo crew

[00:50:14] sounds great yeah this is like this is a lot of design you know those amazing

[00:50:17] and so you know I'm sitting between Rosario Dawson and Chris Rock and her

[00:50:21] hot mom comes over and I get up for her to kill ma'am I'm googling her mom

[00:50:26] yeah mom like her mom's funny cuz her mom was like you know the son's

[00:50:30] actually prettier than the daughter and like like and I asked Rosario about

[00:50:34] that she was like yeah yeah it's true look at my brother and uh yeah he's

[00:50:38] pretty man I mean they're not exactly inaccurate it's a beautiful family

[00:50:44] let's say that nah and then like yeah you get really into my vice you get to

[00:50:47] smoke we would uh what was his name I sound like I want to say name point being

[00:50:51] yeah I I know I'm being all serious now but that was a I thought if you take

[00:50:57] your ego out of the way you learn a lot from just not being an actor first and

[00:51:00] just watching motherfuckers how they fuck up how they do well yeah habits

[00:51:03] and just go like no do you have no stakes okay I think this one's hard to

[00:51:08] talk about cuz it essentially doesn't exist it's like vaporware right what the

[00:51:12] lesser bender like it doesn't exist a movie and it came out no one wanted to

[00:51:16] talk about it it was forgotten like that's it quickly made a ton of money it made

[00:51:19] a ton of money but like I feel like fans of the show are just like let's just

[00:51:23] forget that it's weird let's just forget about and then they just did

[00:51:26] legend a core ember like we're reclaiming the legacy like now you

[00:51:30] know the show this cartoon series it ended it was gonna be live action

[00:51:32] film series that is aborted and then they're just like new new cartoon show

[00:51:36] new cartoon show that's what I haven't watched I haven't watched it I've heard

[00:51:39] great thing you don't care it's just cuz you love the show I love the show but I

[00:51:42] don't want you gone to Korra I'm it's not that I'm sexist it's just that I

[00:51:45] didn't think like it's the same problem with star wars was like well well she's

[00:51:50] already a fucking Jedi what the fuck I'm coming for these next two movies for

[00:51:53] like you've already figured out is that what core is about she's whatever

[00:51:57] she is I don't know the first one airbender didn't know what the fuck

[00:51:59] is going on he was learning for this yeah this one she's already knows

[00:52:02] going on so I'm like well it's course the journey is great great she's like

[00:52:06] the new airbender granddaughter she's from the bloodline yeah his bloodline

[00:52:10] green carnate yeah it's like the Dalai Lama that's like who he's supposed to be

[00:52:14] it's like they give him some objects he picks them up and then he's right

[00:52:18] fucking star wars this bitch figured out how to be a star wars chick in one

[00:52:22] scene you know we did not even all we did like 40 episodes of this is

[00:52:25] the lamest Negro I shouldn't even go in that campaign alright I'm sorry this

[00:52:30] does remind me a lot of the Phantom Manistrile

[00:52:32] yeah in the same way where there's like so much going on none of it is of any

[00:52:36] emotional import there are no characters you can care about and it just becomes

[00:52:40] white noise because there's life and there's any keeps because alright the

[00:52:43] worst part of this movie is when they finally get over to the other water

[00:52:47] city yeah and then they introduced that princess girl who's got like white

[00:52:51] hair oh right by the way I look her up she's Mexican so even when he cast

[00:52:55] people of color in this movie he made them look like albinos so that I

[00:52:59] didn't count you know everybody can be whiting this move

[00:53:03] everyone gets a shot but you know the movies unless you're bad she wow look at

[00:53:08] her yeah yeah if you look at her like if you look at like pictures of her like

[00:53:12] a brunette like yeah she looks she shows up and they're like oh whoa here's a big

[00:53:19] new character for you and then she dies like 15 minutes later like it's

[00:53:23] crazy this was the thing I was gonna say character in the cartoon or at least

[00:53:26] she's in the car actually she's introduced in the cartoon like that except you

[00:53:29] have more episodes of lament like she likes lives for four episodes versus

[00:53:33] this movie that's a long time you know I just remember the thing I was originally

[00:53:38] pulling up okay so it because this connects us there's a lot of fucking

[00:53:42] weird narration in this movie yeah yeah it's like editing like exactly and we

[00:53:48] went over here yeah a lot of over scenes that you could tell we're

[00:53:51] clearly supposed to originally play out in full where she's like we went to

[00:53:54] the temple and met all the elders and soccer met the good the princess and

[00:53:58] they immediately hit it off right and then the next scene you see them talking

[00:54:01] they have a relationship and we miss the stuff so in this interview this was

[00:54:05] interviewed the vulture magazine vulture of New York magazine did with

[00:54:09] M night like the Friday the movie came out right and they said airbender's

[00:54:13] running time is only 104 minutes which isn't very long considering it's an

[00:54:16] adaptation of a 20 episode first season of a cartoon says 10 hours he's

[00:54:19] condensing into 90 104 minutes with 10 minutes of credits right was it

[00:54:24] hard to pack everything in there this is a night's response and so if you go by

[00:54:28] the guy on the message board which I'm inclined to do he's just doing damage

[00:54:31] control not like he's spinning you know whatever true I'm dying to make a two

[00:54:35] hour movie I just haven't earned it yet wait that's what I might said what

[00:54:41] what does that mean what he's definitely made a two hour movies what all

[00:54:45] these movies are fairly short but yeah I'm really tough in cutting and I have

[00:54:51] a style that creates a certain pace and a way of writing where I try to get

[00:54:54] nuances in one scene that helps other life that's just it doesn't make sense

[00:54:58] Christopher Donner cut one day where he's just like yeah wait here's the real

[00:55:02] thing and he cuts together the audition tape so that you have the original

[00:55:05] script in there because that's what the Donner cut does yeah like screen test

[00:55:08] as part of the scene that's Superman to made so much sense in the original

[00:55:12] travel really good kind of I mean except for the spinning planet thing go

[00:55:16] ahead he says I get try getting nuances in one scene that help other

[00:55:20] scenes don't even understand what that means it creates a very similar pacing in

[00:55:23] every movie six cents unbreakable signs and I believe the village were all the

[00:55:27] exact same length that's not true I'm not that's that's empirically I'm just

[00:55:31] that's just him covering his tracks he's saying like what am I it's like kind of

[00:55:35] like when he said the happening was a B movie yeah he's like I make these cheap

[00:55:38] little movies like I'm sorry I just did the same thing I only know what I can

[00:55:42] do that man is good at Brandon let me just say this real quick that was a

[00:55:45] Brandon King like yes I mean I need to get down that you should team up with

[00:55:50] him right you should definitely yeah team up with them I'm gonna do myself oh you

[00:55:54] just want to be the new em now to do I don't have the m nice I can be the white

[00:55:58] version who's a white version of him let him be that guy I'm sorry I mean

[00:56:03] ignorant just do the first half of M nice career yeah just stop like that's

[00:56:08] what you want to imitate you want to stop around the I like the other

[00:56:11] flow of a career I might be I like to throw some like an ebb I guess it's

[00:56:14] about it's starting to flow again maybe maybe where he done lately he did this

[00:56:18] movie last year that people liked called the visit there you go how it was a

[00:56:21] cheap cheap so finance I'm telling you five million bucks I'm tell you pocket

[00:56:27] I'm telling that shit that's the shit I'm telling if he could just keep making

[00:56:30] things yeah high quality will work I mean that's probably the lesson learned

[00:56:33] with this movie right yeah like enough I cannot like just like have the studio

[00:56:38] have so much fucking hate cooks in my kitchen I hate that I hate being an

[00:56:41] actor but I'll do it I love the money and tell me what to do but I fucking

[00:56:46] have better ideas in you that's all I was like better version he does one more

[00:56:50] movie before he realizes this and that's what will Smith and that's probably

[00:56:53] her most meddling that's his next was that was after Earth where you got the

[00:56:57] will Smith Jaden Smith did you discuss this already now I haven't even

[00:57:01] watched it I've seen that was his last big budget right yes he didn't want

[00:57:04] to I bet you something did happen that's why he did do a small thing

[00:57:06] he got to imagine will Smith's kind of star who like he's just there's a lot

[00:57:10] of meddling on every level right like he has to exert a lot of creative control

[00:57:13] and that was also the movie where he was trying to like make Jaden the new will

[00:57:17] yeah that's right he was passing the torch so it's like a big brand management

[00:57:21] movie where they were like designing it to make the audience love Jaden as much

[00:57:24] as they loved well no I cuz you can't you can't create a star you can't

[00:57:28] give something they something somebody something they don't want either can't

[00:57:32] give this somebody a title they gotta get given a belt I also I don't know

[00:57:35] if you listen to you must remember this which is a really good podcast about

[00:57:39] like old Hollywood stuff that David and I listened to good podcast creator

[00:57:42] longworth is great film critic does this podcast talked about like MGM and the

[00:57:45] old Hollywood star system and Louis B. Mayer and he had this quote where he

[00:57:50] like and he of course was a guy who like created stars like found people who

[00:57:53] had a look who didn't have acting talent who were like a background dancer

[00:57:56] or a rodeo clown or whatever the fuck it was and then like molded them

[00:57:59] and like shaped them and created a backstory and changed their name and

[00:58:03] then like slowly because it was the studio system like we'll put them in

[00:58:06] four films and small roles like we can place them in movies and position them

[00:58:10] and he would say when people were like how are you so good at making stars or

[00:58:14] discovering stars and he said I don't discover stars the audience does and

[00:58:18] it's like the trick is even if you are handing someone a star you have to

[00:58:22] make the audience think that they found this person organically and they

[00:58:25] want to like them you can't fucking be Nicola peltz and have your dad like

[00:58:29] pay to put you in the movie you know you can't be like the kid of

[00:58:32] the guy and just be like come on we assume you should like this person

[00:58:36] right I like a rapping to me is really showing you how you introduce a person

[00:58:39] they don't do I don't know if they do it as well now but in the 90s I was like

[00:58:42] literally like a good rapper kept appearing on rappers yeah who is this

[00:58:46] guy right that's like the old like studio system you make them part of the

[00:58:50] tapestry so then when they finally get there like solo album you're like

[00:58:54] I'm ready and like the solo album sometimes be like oh it's like Dr.

[00:58:57] Dre knows this guy and like he's producing this album like right like

[00:58:59] they be packaged with a famous person right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:59:03] you can't just be famous for no reason I can't just make yeah I can't give you

[00:59:06] two hours I can't be famous for no reason it happened I'm just gonna give two

[00:59:09] hours to a motherfucker I don't know how long are you give I don't know I haven't

[00:59:16] watched the comedy in a while have you watched the last field comedy comedy

[00:59:21] film yeah nigga I mean it's you count Deadpool Deadpool was like I love

[00:59:28] that yeah I didn't like it was like it was fight club frame for frame yeah that's

[00:59:32] very similar yeah not exactly the only thing I was ever Norton but they made it

[00:59:37] we're doing but no his flashbacks were basically I would Norton yeah so

[00:59:41] basically he was Tyler Durden and fucking Jack it was and Marla and the

[00:59:45] first opening credits I was like oh shit I love how much we don't want to

[00:59:49] talk about I don't want to talk about I just want to say also I just talk

[00:59:52] about Dev Patel for a second we have a couple things we should definitely

[00:59:54] talk I do awesome bonfi I do think yeah we should maybe just go through

[00:59:57] the performances I do think that everything we're talking about is

[01:00:00] thematically linked because it's all about this like idea of having ownership of

[01:00:04] your like voice and the sacrifices you have to make in a career and how you

[01:00:08] like don't lose it I you know there's there's a common trend where like if a

[01:00:14] studio has a movie and they really think it isn't working and they're just

[01:00:16] like we put a lot of money into this we just got to make our money back they

[01:00:19] just cut the shit down because they're like we can fit in more show times that

[01:00:23] way if the movies fucking 80 minutes long we get more showings in per day we make

[01:00:28] our money back before people like know about it I guarantee you that's what

[01:00:31] fucking happened with this movie the one last thing I want to read from the

[01:00:34] Vulture a few before we go through performance for performance they go have

[01:00:40] you read the reviews for last airbender and he says no I have and they say

[01:00:44] well you're aware of the reviews and he says no actually that I mean okay

[01:00:50] and he the interviewer has to say well for the most part critics have not been

[01:00:55] kind sure are you just ignoring them I mean will you read them this weekend have

[01:01:00] you just not had time and he responds with are you saying that in general they

[01:01:04] didn't dig it oh and the interviewer goes so in general no Roger Ebert who

[01:01:09] liked the happening did not the first line of his review is the last airbender

[01:01:13] is an agonizing experience in every category that I can think of that's

[01:01:17] brutal and others still waiting to be invented so how do you react to

[01:01:21] something like that and he says this is like I think you know if the whole

[01:01:26] series is to try to figure out who this fucking guy is and what happened to him

[01:01:29] why he was good when he was good why he got bad when he got bad how he can be

[01:01:33] saved if he is you know on the upswing now I think this is like the

[01:01:36] purest dose of M. Night we've ever got he says I don't know what to say

[01:01:39] to that stuff I bring as much integrity the table as humanly possible it

[01:01:44] must be a language thing in terms of a particular accent a storytelling accent I

[01:01:49] can only see it a certain way and I don't know how to think in another language I

[01:01:52] think those are exactly the visions that are in my head so I don't know how to

[01:01:55] adjust it without being me would be like asking a painter to change to a

[01:01:59] completely different style I don't know and then they said critics have been

[01:02:03] having been kind to your last couple films you worry about reviews because I

[01:02:06] think of it like an art form so it's something I approach as a sort of

[01:02:08] immovable integrity within each of the stages so if you walk through the

[01:02:12] process with me there's not a moment where I won't that I won't treat with

[01:02:15] great respect so it's sacred to me the whole process of making a movie and I

[01:02:20] would hope that some people see that I approach this field with that kind of

[01:02:23] respect and that it's not a job all right I do agree that you look at his

[01:02:27] films and it's like I do think he respects film a lot like I agree

[01:02:32] except for this one I think he gave up on this one because it couldn't win

[01:02:35] guy out of his hands with this one but he's still like I mean when this

[01:02:39] movie is terrible it's terrible in a way where it's so self-serious it's so

[01:02:42] lifeless and it's so sort of arch but he's never like fucking throwing at it do

[01:02:47] you know I'm saying like it never feels like it's sloppy but sloppy in a way

[01:02:51] that's kind of weirdly meticulous I feel no it feels like a movie that

[01:02:54] everybody was too many cooks in the kitchen yeah direction I think when you

[01:02:57] have too many voices and no vision is like you have that's what happens

[01:03:02] like lifeless that's the way to put it yeah you know character to this

[01:03:06] movie okay so the plot of the movie is make any sense if there wasn't a

[01:03:10] cartoon series no absolute what is this shit like battle or battle after that

[01:03:15] no or battle or yeah yeah we just like what is this whole world yeah what do you

[01:03:20] think this yeah yeah so my entire plot of the film they find a boy in a block

[01:03:25] of ice they say these last airbender they try to get him out and then the

[01:03:28] other people try take them at the end there's an element so it's like there's

[01:03:31] the water people they've been waters the fire people they're like conquerors

[01:03:34] and they shoot fire at people there's the earth people who are Asian East Asian

[01:03:39] East Asian and and they know no no the earth people yes the fire people are

[01:03:43] yes yeah that the earth people are East Asian we don't see much of them and

[01:03:47] they get like conquered or we see they kind of rise up and then at the end

[01:03:52] like the fire people try to conquer the water people but then they beat them

[01:03:55] back so dolly lawn he's supposed to be reincarnation of this thing and the

[01:03:59] cartoon show he was a little boy part of the fun was that he was figured out

[01:04:02] who he was but also his innate energy was just of an excitable small child

[01:04:07] yeah in this environment where everyone's putting all this on him and then

[01:04:10] this movie and try and take out the humor they make it just like yeah and they

[01:04:13] keep saying like like because that part of his story is like he he ran away

[01:04:18] right he's like anointed and then he like flew away they told him about the

[01:04:21] sacrifice you have to make that if he became the avatar which by the way

[01:04:26] they had to remove avatar from the title because this came out a year after

[01:04:28] avatar right that he became the avatar he'd have to he wouldn't ever be able

[01:04:32] to have a family it's like joining the priest or whatever and so he runs away

[01:04:36] and then his whole tribe gets wiped out because he wants but the

[01:04:39] implications because he wants to be a kid like he wants to live his life and

[01:04:42] the movie doesn't do that he never acts like a kid no and that's like almost

[01:04:46] the easiest part of the movie is just like oh find a fun but they're not

[01:04:49] having fun yeah it was actually reminding me of another horrible movie called in

[01:04:53] the wild was a you know talking about with the Sean Penn movie yeah I like that movie

[01:05:00] I hate every drop of that movie because that might be a real white people

[01:05:05] I think it's a real definition I hate every drop of that movie I thought it was a

[01:05:10] real white male prop like I thought a white male yeah only because I hear

[01:05:14] that only because I was waiting the entire movie going okay there's a good

[01:05:18] reason he left his house there must be such a solid and just because his dad had

[01:05:24] a courtesy to have a second family on the side and fucking keep beating your dumb

[01:05:29] ass you got to go in the fucking woods and die what I like about that movie is

[01:05:34] that movie knows he's stupid I think I know I see your argument the guy

[01:05:39] just like why do I care about this guy like you know he not only what you

[01:05:43] just said but he like goes into the wilderness and he's like I don't

[01:05:46] eat these berries I guess like he doesn't know what he's doing yeah you

[01:05:49] just so frustrated yeah yeah yeah you fucking pick the trailer in the middle

[01:05:53] of the fucking atlas go frontier and you're wondering oh my god am I gonna

[01:05:56] live no every just say he runs into Kristen Stewart she's like let's

[01:05:59] let's have sex he's like I don't want to I find that very funny like let's hang

[01:06:03] out and he's like I don't think I can hang out how old brooks like I want to

[01:06:07] be the father that you wish you had and I got a hug I gotta go I gotta go

[01:06:11] die in a school bus my dad had the common courtesy to keep feeding me even

[01:06:17] though he didn't want to we had other pussy he didn't want to be

[01:06:21] asshole put me through college it was a good sound track and you got a car

[01:06:27] any better yeah any better song I mean yeah man people just one dude on

[01:06:33] Facebook but so that movie reminds you of the last airbender I mean I mean

[01:06:39] where it's like what's your problem yeah what's your problem your magical kid

[01:06:42] yeah you're floating really gonna float away because you're burden and there is

[01:06:48] some dark implication that's like yeah his whole family his whole airbender tribe

[01:06:53] wiped out all the monks got killed because we should talk about well we

[01:06:56] shouldn't talk about it but he keeps like talking to a dragon by the way

[01:07:00] in the cartoon he didn't do that the cartoon he didn't really cartoon he

[01:07:03] did not run away cuz he was mad cartoon he ran a he was like playing

[01:07:06] around with sure they like and walk it's more coincidental and then like a

[01:07:09] storm after oh shit and then and then it was like yeah it was more like oh fuck

[01:07:13] so I'm trying to get a whole character was that he was fun right they're trying

[01:07:17] to give him this emotional arc in the movie which the dragon eventually because

[01:07:20] he talks to this like spirit dragon says like you need to confront like you

[01:07:23] need to accept what happened to you and like what happened to your tribe and

[01:07:27] that's when he like does all his water power even though he walked in a

[01:07:30] fucking graveyard of all the skeleton bones yeah right there's

[01:07:34] I'm here for and that happens literally the last five minutes of the

[01:07:38] movie and then the end is M night does the thing he was clearly building up to

[01:07:41] by rewriting I didn't know that the backstory was that he ran away because

[01:07:44] he was like playing and chasing a butterfly instead of like it was like a

[01:07:46] good friend a serious thing it was like not even like he was not a big buildup

[01:07:50] I think he had fights like that but it was like not a he was just in the

[01:07:53] he was just having me floating in the north your north pole the way they

[01:07:56] tell it in this fucking movie is that like they had the ceremony where

[01:07:59] they were gonna make him the avatar everyone bow down and he was supposed

[01:08:02] to bow back and instead he was like yeah and like like snaggle pushed out the

[01:08:09] door right again I don't remember that part at all and I wasn't smoking weed

[01:08:12] at the time it's a flashback and it sucks in your defense it's hard to

[01:08:15] remember any part of this move yep but then at the end the fucking last

[01:08:20] images everyone goes like this new tribe that he's saved with the

[01:08:25] princess who died is like they're like hey we want you to be our avatar

[01:08:30] and then billionaire's daughters like we all do and then they all bow and then

[01:08:34] he sort of bows back and that actually happened in the show sure well yeah

[01:08:37] it works better it could be earned on the show so we used to be a Star Wars

[01:08:42] podcast and we started doing this thing when we were Star Wars podcast report

[01:08:47] Jesus Christ so hot in here performance review performance review right now dude

[01:08:51] it is on yeah I know I know this is a week weeks long saga man yeah

[01:08:57] we would go through the cast to try to figure out whether or not the acting was

[01:09:01] good in in the movies right and I think it's a foregone conclusion that acting

[01:09:05] overall is not good in this film but I think every remaining interesting point

[01:09:08] we have to say is tied to a specific actor okay well do you want me to just

[01:09:11] run it yeah I want to go through this cast yeah okay no ringer he played on okay

[01:09:15] kids clearly not an actor now he's bad he was a martial artist right they

[01:09:19] watched the tape and they were like oh he's so good he's like yeah he's got

[01:09:22] the thing but it's like this movie doesn't really have him do martial

[01:09:25] arts because it's all just him moving his hands around in the CGI going around

[01:09:29] him right so they don't need a kid who's a martial artist it's not like it's a

[01:09:32] Bruce Lee bio he's not fighting anyone like like there's no contact you could

[01:09:36] hire a dancer to do it because you just need someone to hit really strong

[01:09:39] poses they hired him because he had the look like you say yeah like you said

[01:09:43] he dressed for success but he was too old for the role is written and he

[01:09:48] was super white yeah that Patel is for Zuko okay I think this is the only

[01:09:53] performance in the movie he's alright I think it's all right Patel

[01:09:56] um as Zuko yeah you're supposed to be angry oh too I mean everybody was just

[01:10:02] too old in the movie right because like all the problems are child problems yeah

[01:10:05] on these adults in them and that only works in rom-com in the show the fire

[01:10:08] people are Chinese their names are all Chinese they kept the names right like

[01:10:12] Zuko Zhao like you know these are Chinese names so I don't know I mean

[01:10:17] obviously they're gonna keep it but like yeah it's a weird decision I've seen

[01:10:20] the cartoon he is younger Zuko yeah and I mean I guess Dev Patel supposed to be

[01:10:25] brooding it's okay dad his dad fucking yeah he's dad cast him out because he's

[01:10:34] like not tough enough he's trying to prove his dad wrong which is a relatable

[01:10:37] storytelling trip like it's like a it's a classic theme in storytelling and

[01:10:43] so it works better than anything else in this movie just because that's like

[01:10:46] you know elemental and I think he's an actor of some subtlety so those scenes

[01:10:52] he's not just doing mustache for a laying there's like you feel a little

[01:10:54] bad for him but it's not a very well-written character no because

[01:10:58] he's just he just his whole motivation is if I kidnap this airbender kid yeah

[01:11:02] then maybe I'll prove myself right but they keep grabbing him and then he

[01:11:06] just flies away because he can fly right they don't really address that at all

[01:11:10] I think he's the best performance by default he's also the only person who

[01:11:13] I think feels like a human being in this movie I think Sean Tubbs pretty good oh

[01:11:17] right okay well so let's yeah it's uncle Eero yeah yeah he's great yeah what a

[01:11:24] fucking great actor who never gets correct actor he's the dude in the fuck

[01:11:27] he's an iron man the dude who like inspires Iron Man to become Iron Man yeah

[01:11:31] and he was the guy the fucking guy sells the gun owner in crash in crash who

[01:11:36] tries to shoot Michael Pena he's one of these dudes who's like key roles and

[01:11:41] all these big movies but he always gets so different as like a bunch of different

[01:11:45] every race in Hollywood yeah weird man it's like like more I get into the

[01:11:50] business I realized there's a disrespect in the same yeah and I think I was

[01:11:53] looking for I was mixing them up until a couple years ago I was oh I think I'm

[01:11:57] looking for two those are I think I want more respect one more respect I

[01:12:00] love opening up about this so much on this episode because it like makes the

[01:12:03] episode all thematically like rich about this entire quest of like wanting

[01:12:07] to be the artist you want to be and not have to make the last airbender

[01:12:10] oh yeah I'm a I that's the only I can keep this conversation going and be no I

[01:12:16] like bullets of a Broadway we brought that up that that movie scared me for such

[01:12:19] a long time because I was like what if I do give a fuck cuz like John character

[01:12:22] it's like I want to be a writer and then he goes oh I can't do this shit but

[01:12:25] he figured it out way too late in his life yeah no he was in his 40s and

[01:12:29] figured it out and I'm like that that and Edward to the scariest movies

[01:12:32] ever yeah like not have it and not know it mm-hmm yeah Edward Edwards yeah

[01:12:37] one of my absolute favorite movies of all time oh it mostly affects me too much

[01:12:40] like city of God basically I can't watch it yeah Nick Lopel's Jackson Rathbone we

[01:12:47] don't need to say anything about those kids right yeah they're bad Jackson

[01:12:50] read their lines Jackson Rathbone's an actor I don't like I've seen all the

[01:12:54] Twilight movies is he in anything else I've only seen the first I've seen him

[01:12:58] in for like a second he's really fucking posey yeah you know what I'm

[01:13:01] saying yeah like he's always sort of like standing at an angle and he has

[01:13:05] this air of like I think I'm really handsome and I'm doing you a favor by

[01:13:08] getting to look at my face it's always like eyes really wide open lips pouting

[01:13:12] at angles very still he has one mode and he delivers every line he's fine in this

[01:13:17] movie he usually irritates me Nick Lopel says fine they're both fine but

[01:13:22] it's like no one who's carrying this movie you actually care about as if

[01:13:27] Monvy as as Zhao as the evil command show I feel bad for him he's going

[01:13:33] for it he's going for like I said Monvy I didn't realize he was like the main

[01:13:37] villain in yeah he's like the only is like the Darth Vader yeah because I

[01:13:42] thought from the advertising that like Dev Patel was the villain but he's like

[01:13:45] the conflicted like in a world Dev Patel supposed to be like the Draco

[01:13:49] Malfoy right it's like that yes the villain who who lots of people like

[01:13:53] like you know like a whole subset of fans are into I guess he's probably

[01:13:57] like that in the show Zouko like you know sympathetic

[01:14:03] um Zouko which one is Zouko again I'm sorry Prince you know the fire guy no he's

[01:14:08] pathetic around the end of season two okay it takes a while sure yeah and then

[01:14:12] like yeah he goes back and forth back and forth a lot like a fucking 16 year

[01:14:16] olds awesome right right cool cool and then he gets some pussy in season three

[01:14:21] and really calm down it's really it's really cool it's really like natural

[01:14:23] which is how it often is right yeah you're like oh right that's with all this

[01:14:27] energy was about I see the get some and then you get older you learn

[01:14:32] masturbation really does that work for you get a good conversation get your

[01:14:36] hand gone but there's that thing when you're a virgin you masturbation you

[01:14:41] can't settle for masturbation because you're like what if that other thing so

[01:14:43] much better and then once you've had sex you're like I can get most of what I

[01:14:47] oh yeah oh yeah I'm just reading this now the dragon is a composite of four

[01:14:51] characters in the cartoon right I guess does he talk to like old avatars in the

[01:14:56] cartoon I see I see so they're just sort of making the dragon that yeah just this

[01:15:01] random dragon yeah that's kind of like taking I think they might even saw

[01:15:05] Naruto you've seen Naruto no he goes into his head and talks to his big

[01:15:09] firefox a lot yeah but I think now we're though I hope they don't make a

[01:15:12] movie of that see you know Japan does it well like anime they actually just

[01:15:16] make independent movies that have nothing to do with the storyline

[01:15:19] yeah the characters take a big problem and have them solve it right and it's

[01:15:22] like oh that's how you should do movies as opposed to this whole right try to make

[01:15:25] a 36 part story into a two-hour movie but also like the fucking show exists why

[01:15:29] do you need to make it again I mean you said because live action because people

[01:15:32] like whoa yeah what are you yeah but you know what that's why kind of like

[01:15:35] Netflix I like I kind of like what I got problems with Daredevil but I like

[01:15:41] the the effort very small yeah small budget action here like especially

[01:15:45] because like the 70s was done so badly like remember like spider-man you know yeah

[01:15:49] the live action spider yeah hope on his belly and they just pull him up a building

[01:15:53] and he just flail his arms you know they're better than that now that's that's

[01:15:56] the thing like I don't think Daredevil I have problems with Daredevil as you said

[01:16:00] but it's like I like that it's low stakes in a way like because it's a fucking tv

[01:16:04] show not a movie he doesn't have to save the world right they can spend

[01:16:07] episode portal in space that opens up yeah and episodes can be about his

[01:16:11] fucking legal cases in the way the comic book was where it's like the thing

[01:16:13] you were saying about the day-to-day thing like part of what's cool about

[01:16:16] superheroes is seeing them go through all these fucking arcs and like the things

[01:16:19] that are boring and the things that are exciting we're saying what's good about

[01:16:22] tv yeah but this is a movie podcast I'm saying that avatar movie could have been

[01:16:26] a live-action TV show even though that would have been annoying or they could

[01:16:29] have gone here's the basic fundamental idea for this here's what the

[01:16:31] characters are let's write a new story a whole new story rather than try to

[01:16:34] adapt specifically let's take the idea of this thing and come with an arc that

[01:16:38] can be completed within 90 minutes or or like at the end of the arc of

[01:16:42] because like the end of the whole show you know him and Zuko become best friends

[01:16:45] and old wise people start from there that could have been a whole new start

[01:16:49] one more problem before I die yeah and then you're never gonna make people happy

[01:16:53] though I'm gonna start pitching movies this is i'm gonna pitch everything in

[01:16:56] that voice I gotta move it okay avatar goes into a ball

[01:17:01] I remember when the one day I worked on top five where it was a scene

[01:17:05] that is now part of a montage at the beginning of the movie where he's

[01:17:08] doing like a q&a for a bunch of college students to Charlie Rose is

[01:17:11] interviewing him in the movie yeah it's barely in the film and I'm not in at all

[01:17:14] but I asked one question and he was behind the camera when they were filming in

[01:17:17] the audience and all these different kids had asked questions

[01:17:20] he would be behind the camera and seat would sit in the chair Charlie Rose wasn't

[01:17:23] there because he was wrapped for the day they like shot all his stuff first

[01:17:26] and so it was seat and having to like replicate the the jokes that Chris

[01:17:29] Rock had been delivering all day and I'm in the last row of this like

[01:17:33] auditorium is the New York Times Center that story and scenes on stage

[01:17:37] and we're texting back and forth and looking at each other and just going

[01:17:40] like what the fuck is going on but there was a point where you like texted me

[01:17:43] and you were like I don't know if I should be doing the Chris Rock voice or not

[01:17:48] yeah like you're like my because they wanted me to do his jokes right then

[01:17:50] they started correcting me on how to tell jokes oh because like I have a habit

[01:17:53] when I tell them on stage all the time so my habit is like when people are

[01:17:56] laughing I'll like keep talking to keep them going

[01:17:59] and they like the ad was like sit in say the joke let them laugh then say

[01:18:07] the next joke was like okay all right well breathe

[01:18:10] but that was the other part of it was like your job was hey we're getting reaction

[01:18:14] shots of this audience laughing so you have to make them laugh if you can

[01:18:17] actually be funny it makes the results of the film better

[01:18:20] and you're like well these are Chris Rock jokes they're not seat and Smith

[01:18:23] jokes do I try to translate them into my voice and still try to make them

[01:18:27] funny or do I get up here and like do a Chris Rock impression when Chris

[01:18:30] Rock is standing two feet away from me and you just kept on texting me like

[01:18:33] I'd check my phone I get the text I'd look up and you just look like you

[01:18:36] were about to cry I wasn't about to cry I just look

[01:18:39] miss I was really high that's I that was the one if I ever if I die of a

[01:18:44] note of it oh I know my drug habit started on that set

[01:18:48] because the crew was more than willing to give you

[01:18:51] like drugs like hey you want to get the drugs so I'm smoking

[01:18:53] and I started making brownies are giving the security guards I started

[01:18:57] so there was a whole like transactional sort of empire going on I mean I

[01:19:00] mean I'm not there wasn't a buy sell thing more or less like you know

[01:19:03] hey y'all got we just everyone's moving into around yeah we're doing nothing

[01:19:07] was it was one of those like it was it was a chill so it made me want to go

[01:19:11] I can't wait to make a movie uh I can't wait to be like it look it was a

[01:19:16] cool that was this the coolest set I've ever been on of course is I know

[01:19:19] offenses was girls Lena Dunham she makes that set just gold

[01:19:22] I hope she would invite you one day uh we were talking about it off Mike

[01:19:26] let's talk about it on Mike they're audition for the show come on Lena

[01:19:30] there's one season to go yeah come on oh is this last season season six

[01:19:34] no the next season is going to be the last season six or season seven the one

[01:19:36] that's airing right now right now we have six okay one more after producing one

[01:19:41] more season yeah yeah but look I don't even want to throw that this is season five

[01:19:45] this is season five because I'm in it so I know that humble I'm humble humble

[01:19:49] fine then the I'm in the season finale six is the last season because last

[01:19:53] season yeah you're in the finale I'm in the finale

[01:19:57] can you tell us what you play or is it I play a storyteller and we get into a

[01:20:00] fight them in line oh very cool yeah yeah I know it's just uh I don't you know

[01:20:05] you don't give any cool credits because me on a sitcom like you got to explain

[01:20:09] it like I'm gonna sit calm what channel fuck when you know you're like when was

[01:20:13] it on there's an off now like I could say girls oh I don't know

[01:20:16] it's great when you only have to use one word to tell people what your job

[01:20:19] is yeah no like SNL people they don't help like that's it's really cool to

[01:20:22] be like SNL I didn't say it but I mean I look at their eyes

[01:20:26] they look happy you know for a minute not the whole job the job is miserable but

[01:20:31] but the minute where they have to tell someone's relatives what they do for a

[01:20:34] living they look happy when you don't have to explain your job to a relative

[01:20:37] oh that is a beautiful feeling yeah yeah you don't have to do that anymore right

[01:20:40] they didn't say know your job now I don't know I mean people my age no I

[01:20:44] we even said this on podcast the last time we recorded was an hour before

[01:20:47] the news was broken the news is broken uh but I I'm gonna be on the new

[01:20:53] tv version of the thick yeah playing arthur I feel like any one of our general

[01:20:59] generation they know but I feel like to my parents friends right your parents

[01:21:02] don't know the 10 but they know but I can tell them I'm playing a superhero on

[01:21:06] amazon and that will sound like something real to them you know yeah that

[01:21:10] will where's two years ago they'd be like it's a tv show on a bookstore what are

[01:21:13] you talking about now I can say like Amazon and they know yeah they know

[01:21:17] that amazon right yeah um that is people know vinyl right people know your own

[01:21:21] vinyl yeah vinyl works that's a HBO show wait episode I did I see you what

[01:21:26] episode you do I'm he's he's all in my just I'm pretty hidden

[01:21:29] okay I'm a little I'm like the where's Waldo vinyl okay are you in every single

[01:21:33] one I thought you were all the one yeah you're in the record company yeah I have

[01:21:37] a mustache and I get yelled at I feel like I saw you and I just didn't

[01:21:40] because like my girl gets annoyed because I see have so many friends on

[01:21:43] tv right and I scream now and she's like she gets so annoyed and now

[01:21:46] she's finally starting to see friends on tv so now she's not as annoyed

[01:21:49] but at first it was really like come on and so I probably have to suppress my

[01:21:53] joy when I saw you um but I saw you in the

[01:21:57] fucking other movie and you're the best part of it

[01:21:59] oh come on stop it um what's that movie Fort Filtrethen

[01:22:01] Fort Tilden killed it Fort Tilden yeah killed that opening

[01:22:05] you were like hey script you mind now I did yeah I worked in a lot of fast

[01:22:10] and furious you know that's a fun fact in the opening of the film where

[01:22:13] they're like oh look at those cute boys over there and I'm saying something

[01:22:16] but you can't really hear what it is I'm explaining the chronology of the

[01:22:19] fast and furious movies and I go at seven four I like I'm literally just

[01:22:22] numbering them in order um well this is not what I want the podcast to be about

[01:22:26] I want as I said this is turned into a griffin newman retrospective I like it

[01:22:29] no but I don't like I don't like you would have been good in this movie

[01:22:32] you would have been better than almost anybody in this movie I wish you'd gotten

[01:22:35] the the Jackson Rathbone part 19 I didn't do anything yet

[01:22:40] we should say this movie made a lot of money made a lot of money open to

[01:22:42] 51 mil yep fourth of July weekend shit on that

[01:22:46] yeah shit on that crowd nothing wrong it ended with it dropped

[01:22:50] as all things do but it's at 130 domestic 130 domestic about 370 worldwide

[01:22:56] I mean I think it was wrong with that they didn't really lose money on it but

[01:22:59] they were like we will lose money if we make another one because no one wants

[01:23:02] to see right they didn't lose money but it wasn't what you really want which

[01:23:05] is like a franchise yeah yeah spider-man on Broadway

[01:23:09] we all live really right in the long run

[01:23:13] I thought God this is maybe my favorite episode of the podcast I just like I

[01:23:15] like thematically the larger things are getting at the episodes we've been doing

[01:23:19] recently they're all different yeah yeah like at my chum lunch

[01:23:22] filmography oh yeah I mean that's the other thing to say though

[01:23:25] this is what fourth movie in a row that basically is like a huge bomb yeah

[01:23:29] it sweeps the golden raspberries not that we like those stupid things but

[01:23:33] like when you made a bunch of movies he hates and now he's made him one

[01:23:36] good movie he loves I'm gonna go see that movie see see Seaton's like trying to

[01:23:39] like you know like sort of like put a bow on this like I am nice we have to do one

[01:23:42] more bad episode before we get to that after earth and then we get to do the

[01:23:45] movie that we like possibly I don't know if it's as an artist you just I just

[01:23:48] know low that like it's an ebb and flow and you just gotta keep going because

[01:23:51] I mean like I love Clint Eastwood and Woody it just they keep making movies

[01:23:54] and they've had parts where people ignore them and then they kept making

[01:23:56] movies and people loved them and then when if you make them that

[01:23:59] consistently and then people sometimes will go back to the movies they

[01:24:01] ignored and be like you know what you made a couple good movies yeah my

[01:24:04] dream I realized I was walking today and I realized my dream in life is to

[01:24:07] make a chunk of great work like my dream like I like what Mulaney did I like

[01:24:11] like this latest stuff I've done and I want to get like I don't know 60 70

[01:24:14] make movies and then kind of do something else for 20 years become senile

[01:24:18] in a house and go like oh man I ain't got nothing else to do and be like well

[01:24:21] you want to watch some of your old movies fuck what did I do I'm like oh

[01:24:25] shit I was funny with that thought yeah you want to watch I want to make a

[01:24:28] good discography for me to die to but I have no memory of you want to watch

[01:24:31] it fresh you want to make the work that you would want to see and then get old

[01:24:34] and see all enough that you can watch it completely see now I mean hit your head

[01:24:38] and then you like wander into a town you're like who am I I don't know who I am

[01:24:42] and they're like I know you you were on a tv show and then see I don't want the

[01:24:45] same I just want to enjoy my work again well that means just I want to enjoy

[01:24:49] my performance like discover it for the first time yeah I want to do that

[01:24:51] and 90 if I make it that far maybe 80s a good point that far you'll make it

[01:24:55] that far yeah yeah Trump will be in his 14th term yeah the water will be lapping up

[01:25:00] we'll all be drinking trupe ice yeah the rivers will run with Trump ice you see

[01:25:04] Rachel Maddow recently had a great article on him because he compared this

[01:25:08] election to the goldwater election at 64 yeah yeah I mean I know I know I'm

[01:25:12] ready for water very cold water took over the public primaries like the similar

[01:25:16] like Trump right they had KKK following the conservative and everybody was

[01:25:20] freaked out by him and then Lyndon B Johnson being really the most darkest

[01:25:23] political minds ever he didn't do any debates with him at all and just did

[01:25:27] the weirdest series of commercials you know the days the days he commercial but

[01:25:32] you see the one with the guy awesome now I was I was watching that commercial

[01:25:36] recently that is a performance of great performance I want to great as a

[01:25:40] monologue I would put glasses on you seen this no it's this great

[01:25:43] old political it's like six minutes long those four it's four minute four

[01:25:46] minute monologue commercial ad you're like this was on tv like this whole it's

[01:25:50] like so long as it just basically a monologue of a dude explaining how he's

[01:25:54] a republican he's like taking his glasses off it's like I just don't know

[01:25:58] I you know it's like a real yeah like 1960s monologue style acting he even

[01:26:03] smokes the right moment it's just like he lights at the right moment he's sitting

[01:26:07] there and he paused and he goes damn I bet you was like 400 takes of that

[01:26:10] monologue oh yeah oh yeah because it's one single shot yeah you know it's

[01:26:14] broken so your point is that's what you want to do you want to do one

[01:26:17] piece of work someday at that level of quality yeah without Donald Trump

[01:26:23] I want to make like a like somebody told me this shit once like

[01:26:25] character was sour I was like you like him yeah just watch any of his movies

[01:26:28] they're all great yeah I want somebody to say that about my shit yeah you can

[01:26:31] about me my fucks well no but look I say this and not just because you're my

[01:26:36] friend thank you I do I haven't said the thing yet hold on I'm still gonna

[01:26:39] accept it I do think you're one of the best stand-up comedians working in

[01:26:42] the country right now I truly believe that man yeah uh and I think every time

[01:26:47] I see you you you have advanced so far beyond because of the standards you hold

[01:26:52] yourself to and how much you care about the work you're constantly tunneling

[01:26:55] deeper and deeper into the types of things you want to say and how you say

[01:26:58] them and how you perform and marrying uh the writing and the performance in a

[01:27:02] way that I think few people do at the level that you do oh man thanks for

[01:27:05] saying that yeah I have no question in my mind there's no doubt that you

[01:27:08] will have the body of work that you hope to have and you will be able

[01:27:11] to watch it all once you've lost your mind and not remember that you

[01:27:15] I may even lose a quicker than I think I may not make it 70 I really don't know why

[01:27:19] I think that I mean if you're drinking if you're drinking that much during the

[01:27:22] fox run it's I wasn't even nervous it really was a boredom drink I was like

[01:27:25] hey I'm not gonna do I might as well drink it wasn't even like I need love

[01:27:29] it wasn't even emptiness well I'll say this okay so last

[01:27:31] bunch of weeks in the podcast I started this thing I was starting like a

[01:27:33] public campaign like a petition to try to be on fast and furious I really

[01:27:37] want to be in the cast of Fast and Furious and still very much a

[01:27:40] goal but now I have the tick which obviously was just means to an end I

[01:27:43] mean I you know that was so I could leverage that into getting in fast

[01:27:46] and furious eight so now I have the momentum hopefully that will work

[01:27:49] good luck man but I you know I want to use the time that we would devote to

[01:27:53] that on the episode to when you text me with the congratulations about the

[01:27:56] tick news you said there's a complex character that you

[01:27:59] have always fantasized about playing oh freakish and I yep

[01:28:03] freak is like a place freak is like and you even said that to me like I

[01:28:06] remember in one of those parked car talks we're like if you could play

[01:28:09] any part what would it be and I was like spider-man and you were like

[01:28:12] freak is like you've had that answer ready for years that episode of

[01:28:15] freak is the show the first pilot episode of freak is always genius it

[01:28:18] gets really off the rails later but that first one is just like oh it's like a

[01:28:22] superhero who's like the world was very concrete and he bounced around and

[01:28:26] that's how you're supposed to make movies like that's how like

[01:28:29] Beverly Hills cop that's what made his genius he just his funny advanced

[01:28:32] the story it's like a perfect structure let's throw that out into the

[01:28:36] universe I want that to live action free because I'd

[01:28:39] rebuild up enough cred or whatever power and then you're like all right

[01:28:42] all right I want to give a ten yeah freak is all right and I think I want to make

[01:28:45] like a herald in the purple crayon but that's one later years

[01:28:48] that's that'd be incredible if you pulled that off I love that

[01:28:52] when I was so much I'm mother as a minister she did I don't like she did

[01:28:56] like a whole sermon on that really yeah because basically it's a

[01:28:58] metaphysical argument that you control your

[01:29:01] right world and your destiny and your destiny you're such a good guy

[01:29:05] oh no we gotta hang out it was very nice to have you on the podcast having you on the show

[01:29:09] too bad that this movie just completely sucked it gives me something to do man I've

[01:29:13] been in my room like just writing a lot I ain't I ain't been human you can't with

[01:29:17] a notebook you got a full notebook if I do I gotta work on my acts more like I

[01:29:20] figured our good system work on my act more so like I I just wrote this good

[01:29:23] pilot script and so like I have had I don't remember how to stand up again

[01:29:27] because you got like it's I didn't realize you had mode

[01:29:29] sure I've been switching I'm gonna jump back now you ain't got it you gotta go do

[01:29:32] your TV show when you start and the next month and April

[01:29:37] it's pretty cool you cast the ticket no no and I'm not just saying that I they

[01:29:41] literally they have not and I don't even know who the people are her close to

[01:29:43] getting it but I did get the email last night about my costume fitting this

[01:29:47] week and it was like oh that feels real now

[01:29:51] like they have to make a superhero suit to my stupid body you gotta put a

[01:29:55] lot of lube or derma and I'm not right make sure I was thinking about

[01:29:58] that because here's the thing I haven't told anyone about like on the

[01:30:00] production side of things I got IBS I'm usually pretty good at like

[01:30:04] fucking scheduling around it sure but if I'm in like a skin tight how do you get

[01:30:08] that off and like mid-take I'm like hey do we have like two minutes can I run to

[01:30:11] the bathroom right is it do I have the time to take the suit off and put it on

[01:30:15] I don't know please write in with your thoughts blank check podcast at gmail.com

[01:30:19] you got single cam and so you yeah single cam you just pull that dick out

[01:30:24] right on the side of the camera because it's gonna be wild wild west I

[01:30:27] love single cam it's just wild west it's like it's like all rules

[01:30:30] we got to shoot illegally over here in this little booth go pee over there hurry up

[01:30:35] pull that dick out on the side of the camera

[01:30:39] multi cam was so much more official like there's a bathroom there the officers

[01:30:42] there that's what Brian Cranston would do on Breaking Bad famously he'd always pee

[01:30:45] on the camera operator's leg I don't have time for yeah not true

[01:30:49] um see even thanks for being on the show thank you anything anything you

[01:30:52] want to plug

[01:30:54] now I did the girls thing is there yeah you're not like girls look at them

[01:30:57] I'm in care oh I did a little spot on characters for my friend Natasha Rock

[01:31:00] oh yeah that hit netflix's weekend that had

[01:31:03] hush rock balls one of the best yeah awesome I did uh we have started

[01:31:06] improv I didn't start improv I started improv after her but the same school

[01:31:09] okay uh she's great you're both great uh watch that also just jump in now on

[01:31:13] the ground floor of seat and smith we'll have one of the greatest

[01:31:15] greatest American history get on board yeah man if uh I'm not sure

[01:31:18] was net worth gonna say yes to my tv show but just tune in might be a

[01:31:21] bidding war my being a bit of netflix freak isoid reboot 2017 I'm calling it

[01:31:26] now I'd be great because I have to change the character first he's white I

[01:31:28] could change that but he's like he's already a teenager he's like blue that's

[01:31:31] what I was gonna say he's blue I see the blue is what I'm talking about the

[01:31:35] original guy but I mean yeah I could change that he was also a kid I gotta

[01:31:38] figure out as to get around that too but you know what this is feels like the

[01:31:40] mask I feel like the same structure right right you can do right I believe

[01:31:43] you're a living cartoon in like the real you know in a real world

[01:31:46] right like that's what freak isoid is yeah it's always bouncing off of like

[01:31:49] you said bouncing off with that fucking I should tweet at your local

[01:31:54] senators and tell them to put a freak isoid reboot into development with

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[01:32:04] feel free to listen to our the other podcasts on the used to be comedy

[01:32:07] though sure definitely subscribe all that great review here's the thing about

[01:32:12] all those podcasts they're all produced by the same man oh yeah he hasn't

[01:32:16] spoken he's been sitting in a booth in the room next to us

[01:32:20] you just cough yeah hey hi guys hi I don't think he saw this coming

[01:32:24] no I didn't um yeah hey uh listen to our shows

[01:32:29] and did you like the last hair bender no did you watch it

[01:32:34] yeah I know I watched it with my roommates and I could not pay attention

[01:32:37] and got distracted I don't even know actually how it ends how does it end

[01:32:41] bowz you bowz yeah he bow the boat sleeve yeah they turn around did you get any good

[01:32:47] work oh at the end they have the fucking cliffhanger thing with the sister

[01:32:51] what it's a cliffhanger thing with the sister at the end of the movie where

[01:32:54] they go to Zuko's dad she's gonna be like the new he's like you gotta take over

[01:32:58] and he's like can you do it and they cut her and it's a lady and that's

[01:33:00] supposed to be a big twist somewhere bishil from a towel head I feel so

[01:33:04] bad for they like brought her on they were like okay so you have one

[01:33:06] line in this film you're gonna be in two you're gonna be all over last

[01:33:09] airbender two why she feeling bad one day of work I pay like a motherfucker

[01:33:13] that's true she probably made yeah one day work you have the right fucking attitude

[01:33:17] on everything in this industry well this is the thing with a bitterly bad negative

[01:33:21] movie and seton has kind of guided us towards like positive thoughts throughout

[01:33:24] this episode I mean when people get paid it's not that bad of a world

[01:33:28] all right yeah yeah everyone made some money anybody made money you know

[01:33:32] and even lose any money nobody got died in the 80s mother fuckers should die

[01:33:38] helicopters chop people's heads up yeah it didn't happen everybody laid everybody

[01:33:42] I paid I've spoken to some people worked on crew and and said it was it was fun

[01:33:47] sure right just it was just a movie yeah I got the travel of yeah good movies bad

[01:33:51] movies nobody could tell when you're on set it's like feels the same sometimes

[01:33:54] you'll see some amazing movie and you'll hear it was like a nightmare to make

[01:33:57] it yeah but what you know and you're like wow they made a great movie but

[01:33:59] yeah yeah but you know what the thing is about getting to be in a in a

[01:34:02] really bad movie you still got to be in a movie right I didn't get to be in a

[01:34:07] movie you don't say like that's insane it's a business of love business business

[01:34:10] yeah I only ever auditioned for one movie what nobody was nobody's fool

[01:34:14] you auditioned for no but the Paul Newman movie when I was like seven years

[01:34:18] old they came to my like my elementary school play what play the kid there's

[01:34:22] like a kid in the movie wow yeah I talked to some guy I don't know

[01:34:26] wow that was it though that could have been see

[01:34:30] I was almost in the Woody Allen series oh in the Amazon one I was almost

[01:34:34] there wow I got to meet him and everything what yeah that was cool

[01:34:38] okay we got an on it can you tell me a story about meeting him

[01:34:42] no it was really the smallest probably like everybody keeps telling me that he's

[01:34:45] like a nervous neurotic mess in the corner sure no

[01:34:48] right it was completely in control I walked in okay you doing can you sit

[01:34:50] right there all right done see you it was very quick read the thing you

[01:34:54] yeah read it cold all right but I think I tried to put a character on it

[01:34:58] should have been a supernatural I made a mistake

[01:35:00] uh but you're on the radar yeah I mean it was two it was two sessions they

[01:35:04] said it like me hey it was fun sure I like to be for me it was a he makes a lot

[01:35:07] of stuff makes a lot of yeah you know in the last three years I've

[01:35:10] literally met almost every one of my heroes the only like I've been in it

[01:35:13] either met or been in the same room as everybody yeah that's

[01:35:16] fucking queer I realize I have one on the list I haven't met a

[01:35:19] Steve Martin's like the only person I put it at higher level who I haven't

[01:35:22] met yeah yeah uh I said one thing we use

[01:35:26] actually I mean for us it's painful memory he was supposed to be an

[01:35:28] episode 16 of millennium is already scheduled are you serious

[01:35:31] oh my god 14 was Bill Hader and 16 was gonna be Steve Martin

[01:35:35] oh my god he fucked up canceling Malaney what was he gonna play I don't know but

[01:35:39] like I know the ratings are bad yeah so fucked up firing Griffin Newman from

[01:35:43] Malay no totally completely it was really all karma it's karma really for

[01:35:46] firing me I mean when I see you the care you ever seen uh Simon rich in person

[01:35:51] though yeah yeah I just want to think about I see like oh that's why I

[01:35:54] cast you yeah yeah because he was very much of Simon rich and he said you

[01:35:58] okay all right and then two different networks were like that guy doesn't make

[01:36:02] sense well because it was just two Malayans he was he was giving you all his

[01:36:04] lines it was made no sense yeah and then it was uh yeah I should have made you

[01:36:08] the friend outside and come in or should have just dated him this

[01:36:12] theme the whole time um I mean

[01:36:16] or you know my flat is where it led us you know we're all this sweaty room

[01:36:19] just leave minutes ago can we get out of here let's get out here thank you

[01:36:22] all for listening here we're gonna go next week after

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[01:36:46] they're producing the tick well uh I should get on that

[01:36:50] probably don't want to talk shit about your bosses man yep it's all he

[01:36:53] does every week uh that's my running bit

[01:36:56] Seton is going to continue eating a salad and I'm gonna finish this motherfucker

[01:36:59] get my calories out it's a big salad oh yeah it's a big man it's a big salad

[01:37:03] I started doing kung fu all right as always and as always big thanks to

[01:37:08] producer Ben aka producer Ben aka the ben dooser aka the poet laureate aka the

[01:37:14] haas aka mr positive aka birthday bennie aka the tiebreaker aka the peeper

[01:37:20] his name is not professor crispy he's not even a nickname aka producer ben

[01:37:25] Kenobi aka kylo ben Seton has picked up his salad he's put he's stretching

[01:37:31] David's unplugging here yeah there we go David's packing his stuff back up

[01:37:37] Seton's contemplating his life why he was here in the studio and as always a hearty hello

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