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[00:01:44] Hold on over, hold on over baby.
[00:01:47] Catching all the age groups in this one.
[00:01:49] This is good. all the other stuff you wrote months in advance. There were some stressful Skype sound effects in that movie. Workshop with Valanche all that time. There was a lot of, yeah, you had to put a lot of time in. Do you think Valanche just kind of is like suspended in some sort of like, you know, bacta tank or, you know, spice tank from Dune or whatever? That's how I imagine he is. Here's my Baron, Baron Valanche. Here's my bitch.
[00:03:00] He's just kind of like ageless
[00:03:02] and then they just knock on his tank
[00:03:04] and he's like, you know, like he still has an OJ joke
[00:03:06] for them or whatever. And so he comes out and he's like, I know you all hate the thing where I promised when I took the job, I said, I'm not gonna do one of these horrible, crappy opening musical medleys that everyone rolls their eyes at. And then the bit is, oh, he's doing it, but he's doing the lo-fi version of it. The joke was him sort of doing what I'm doing,
[00:04:21] which is like, oh, this is like the shitty,
[00:04:22] they just made it up version.
[00:04:24] And then it became without backup dancers or real singers.
[00:04:27] And then it becomes the Billy Crystal parodies and I was like, match up the movie with the actual song that was parodied. And I think I gave like an answer bank because I was like, it would have been too hard otherwise. And it was fun watching people come up with their own crystal thing. The answer was wrong, but they were like, I figured it would be because of this and
[00:05:42] this.
[00:05:43] Some of them are so weird.
[00:05:44] I mean, the one I always think about the director being snubbed. Right. He was just like, none of us none of us are upset. But also, who did instead? Yes. Can you tell me? Fernando Morales. Yeah. One of the biggest the biggest surprises of like Oscar nomination morning ever. Nerds like us. And let's be clear.
[00:07:00] This is Blank Check with Griffin and David. I'm Griffin.
[00:07:02] David, it's usually a podcast about
[00:07:04] filmography as directors with massive success, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:07:07] Once a year, we pick the winner.
[00:08:00] which was bullshit. Wrong.
[00:08:01] But it was where she got in the sack.
[00:08:02] And then so the Oscar voters were like,
[00:08:03] no, no, no, she's the lead actress,
[00:08:05] which like they don't do often enough.
[00:08:07] 2003 I feel like is a morning that nerds like us
[00:08:09] think about as like,
[00:08:10] 100%.
[00:08:11] I want one of those again.
[00:08:12] Where they announced random Morales.
[00:08:14] That's my Roman empire.
[00:08:14] That wasn't on a long list.
[00:08:16] Right.
[00:08:17] It wasn't on a long list.
[00:08:18] We hadn't even conceived it.
[00:08:19] That was eighth dimensional thinking.
[00:08:20] What was that?
[00:08:21] It got four noms.
[00:08:22] Yeah, City of God.
[00:08:24] Right, there were like a couple other surprises of like.
[00:08:26] Samantha Morton getting in Best Actress was super, super
[00:08:28] weird. That was surprising. would he know he's like how old is he when Unforgiven comes out? Unforgiven he's like 69. No he's not that old. Hell yeah brother! Alright! Let's see, 1930. He's like 62. Okay. And it's just so funny to think about the Oscars being like ah as you hang your hat up and head into retirement. Let's give you
[00:09:41] some Oscars and he's like 30 more years of's Peter Weir's Master in Command. Yeah, there you go. It's a very solid five, especially given that they put Morellis in there, which was cool.
[00:11:00] I would have put Burton in there.
[00:11:02] Burton's not even close.
[00:11:03] Burton's in.
[00:11:04] No, like the big snub, honestly,
[00:11:07] the crazy snub is Tarantino. entirely. West, we were just talking about, it's the insane thing where it's like only one of his movies has ever gotten nominated in any craft categories. There's one year they went for his movie in everything. Down the ballot. And he won a few. And you're like, there are other guys like that where it's like, well, the Academy doesn't love them,
[00:12:20] but their films are always going to get cinematography or costume or art direction or like certain
[00:12:25] period pieces where you're just like, no just kinda put your elbow on the scale. It's just for fucking me. Because there'll just be nothing with these. Yeovin has one, no. For what?
[00:13:40] Budapest.
[00:13:41] Right.
[00:13:42] Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
[00:13:43] Everything for Budapest.
[00:13:44] I'm sorry.
[00:13:44] That's the one time everybody got their flowers.
[00:13:47] But the thing with Rushmore was that they did the, what now works more often, but they did the- The screenplay nod. No, it didn't get a screenplay nod.
[00:15:00] Didn't it?
[00:15:01] No, no, his screenplay nods are Royal Tannenbaums.
[00:15:03] Good movie.
[00:15:04] Moonrise.
[00:15:05] Budapest, three.
[00:15:07] Good movies.
[00:15:08] Yeah. So who gets in there? Coburn? Jeffrey Rush for Shakespeare in Love, Ed Harris for Truman Show. We just talked this category, I can't remember why. Who are the others? Robert Duvall for Civil Action. Coburn's the winner, right? Thornton for Simple Plan. For Simple Plan, yeah.
[00:16:20] I don't know who the... Murray would have won had he got nominated, do we agree?
[00:16:23] No. No?
[00:16:25] I think Coburn won. winners. I know what you're about to ask and I just want to say let's do a maximum of two minutes on this. Start the clock. People hate when in this final year end wrap up discussion we just kind of casually spoil movies that perhaps some people haven't seen. We're gonna spoil Monsters, Inc. We're gonna spoil a 25 year old movie. Yeah, Monsters, Inc. 23. I
[00:17:41] know when Monsters, Inc. came out. Don't correct between Buscemi and Coburn or is there a secret third thing? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like pin one of them down? Possibly. You know, just be like, all right, come on guys. Give us the fucking... Peterson, Stanton. Stanton and Daniel Gerson are the two screenplay credits. So let's get Stanton. Yeah, I think I'm the right here.
[00:20:20] Really nail him down and make him give a real answer.
[00:20:22] Is Stanton going on March Madness Bracket?
[00:20:24] I've had a few people who have ceremony starts with her on the stage. We're just like, we're just going to cut down on, like, come on, let's, let's, let's make it. Don't come on stage, we'll come right by the steps.
[00:21:40] Okay, just stand right there.
[00:21:41] Okay.
[00:21:42] Right.
[00:21:43] The Oscars will be in her home actually this year where they're just like, we're not going
[00:21:45] to bother.
[00:21:46] Let's also say this. for Everything Everywhere just flying in the face of like we always ignore those guys. Yeah. Joe you gave it to Tim Roth for Resurrection. Wow. That scared the shit out of him. Good ass pics. I will say. I found him to be a very chill and fun hangover. Well sure. So I don't know what you're talking about. My five nominees for Best Supporting Actress. Hung Chau for showing up.
[00:23:00] Turn on that hot water though.
[00:23:03] I mean if you want to take it up with if she loses that's why because she didn't turn it
[00:23:07] on. Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm. A lot of words. Maura Tierney in The Iron Claw. Mm. Real David Pick. And Ruby Cruz in Bottoms. I like that. One of my favorite performances. She's incredibly good. And one of those just like, as I'm watching that movie, just like, who's that? Who is that? She's gonna be in 8 Billion Things. That's a performance where I'm like,
[00:24:21] I can't wait till this movie ends
[00:24:22] so I can go to her island.
[00:24:23] Look how full this is.
[00:24:25] Oh, it's the girl from Mare!
[00:24:26] She was Kaley Spaney's friend in Mare! You're all the way kidding about Kate Hudson. I am all the way kidding about Kate Hudson. Fergie, I'm half with you. Fergie's performance is the moment where that movie actually has some energy. We were talking before this about when certain surprise nominations happen, we all feel the relief of like, Ooh, it's fun. Right. Oh, it's fun. And then I don't have to give them one of my slots on the blankies because they're
[00:25:40] already getting the respect.
[00:25:41] I can free that up for someone even more off the beaten path.
[00:25:43] Yeah.
[00:25:44] I'm working on my five for the last couple of months.
[00:25:46] And I was like, either Cruz, this is a great camp classic. That stuff is so bad. You guys are punching above your weight. It's really, yeah. I think bending is hilarious in it. I think Foster is awesome in it. Did you see the clip that they used for her
[00:27:00] at the SAG Awards?
[00:27:01] No.
[00:27:01] It's the clip where she's like,
[00:27:02] just crawled out of the water
[00:27:03] and she's salt bloated all to hell.
[00:27:06] And like out of context,
[00:27:07] even in context, it's there. Must be nice. Well, the towel was confusing so many people. I was on the vulture slack one day and everybody was like, what's this wall hanging that we got in the night?
[00:28:23] And finally, somebody's like, I think it's a towel.
[00:28:25] It's just an thing where we're gonna be like, what a great resume, she's got so many interesting performances. What was her Oscar note for, the whale? And then she, you know, like these guys are like matching up. She was like owning bones in the menu. She's so good in the menu. Right, right. And then showing up comes out much later. The act of being kind to a fat person
[00:29:42] takes a lot of skill, so really we had to get back to her.
[00:29:45] She's the real superhero in that movie.
[00:29:47] Could you, an amazing sort of partnership going on and it's just one of these performances
[00:31:01] where you just cannot figure out what the fuck is going on with this woman ever.
[00:31:05] Which is kind of her specialty. I think as good as she's ever been in anything. I basically agree. I love her in this movie. I do think that what you're describing though is the Penelope Kriges experience where you're like, well, I know what she gives me. And then she gives you what she gives you. Okay, she's just gonna be the wife. And she's Italian, she yells, and then she gives you what you expect and you're like, ah, it's so much better
[00:32:20] than I thought it was gonna be.
[00:32:22] It's like there were some breakthroughs.
[00:32:23] It's like she has some drastically different take.
[00:32:25] You're just like, oh, she's just like alive with fire.
[00:32:28] Right. Recently, my therapist really just throwing fucking haymakers at me. I made offhand reference to the type of women I fall for and she went, oh, you mean women with mood disorders? And I was like, yeah, this is the reason this performance has really stuck with me all year. David looking around the room. I think you should see that therapist twice a week, maybe.
[00:33:41] Up to three.
[00:33:42] I told you recently.
[00:33:43] Ben and I are like, yep.
[00:33:45] I told you recently, and to any exes of mine listening a door closing and that's always sad. Right. Yeah, you're right. It's like after, yeah, after he gets blunt pregnant, Pew is crying. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. No, no, it's fine. Just, just, yes. No, absolutely. That energy to the performance of this woman who just kind of like cannot figure her own shit out and then it's, it spends the rest of her life sort of like racked with, yeah, until the feds get her until the feds get her.
[00:35:02] Um, who else you got?
[00:35:04] Those are my five.
[00:35:04] Hong chow, Paula Beer, Julianne Moore, Penelope Cruz, Florence Pugh, Julianne Um, Anne Hathaway in Eileen. Yeah You know comes in and super charges the movie Obviously is the one point the director hands her a folded piece of paper and she opens it and it said what if you slayed? Yeah, um, and she just proceeds to that didn't actually have him but it should have um Eileen I just want to say and make him come up in another category later in this episode that is movie where the first
[00:36:23] 90% of it. I'm just, you and I both have Rachel McAdams, who is just...
[00:37:44] Luminous!
[00:37:45] Luminous, fantastic. forgets she got the spotlight nomination. Yeah, those slacks. They were so ill fitting. Yeah. I considered dropping Divine Joy Randolph because she's obviously just like, Yeah, she can't get more clothes for mine. But I really actually love that performance and it moved me quite profoundly. So she's making it for me. Yeah. As is, I feel the exact same way about Ruby Cruz.
[00:39:02] And then Muratirani is my winner.
[00:39:03] I'm going to say my winner.
[00:39:04] How?
[00:39:05] I think the best acting of the year might be her
[00:39:07] trying to, like not oh, is this the start of next era? A little tyranny, like, right in her 50s. Smart directors knowing how to give her these.
[00:40:20] And it feels like Iron Claw is continuing that.
[00:40:22] And there's probably going to be one that breaks through
[00:40:25] in a larger sort of the most incredible. Yeah, five second take of acting. I I love the senior referencing. I love her I love her but yeah Also, I consider weird mid space between lead and supporting I should for that performance. I would agree This is one where I'm like actually kind of fucked by the movie having three separate supporting actress candidates
[00:41:46] And I couldn't pick one gone Parker Posey I find that to be the most tiresome part of the movie, or at least the part of the movie where I'm starting to like lose energy. So maybe that's why I'm holding it against Katherine Hunter. Maybe I think she needs to explain the pacing of that movie to me. No, no, no, that's maybe, yeah, she's great. Best supporting actor. No, excuse me. I do have a few. I'm sorry.
[00:43:00] I posted a little grid last night
[00:43:01] of I had like 12 finalists.
[00:43:02] I'm like, I really, so it's like I had some late, late cuts.
[00:43:06] Erica Alexander in American fiction.
[00:43:08] An incredible pick. But I think Roz Pike is a scream in Saltburn. I think she's so funny. I don't disagree with that. But I also feel like Rosamund Pike is the Velveteen Rabbit. And that by being in that movie, her exposure to a deadly illness is so severe that there's
[00:44:20] no choice but to put that performance in the incinerator.
[00:44:23] I love her and I love her work.
[00:44:26] But I'm like, if I wasn't supposed to be reading those scenes that way the first time I have no idea what the fuck this movie is. Right, right, no it's it's it double bags itself. Do you have any other supporting actors you want to shout out? We do have to move on but I should I want to shout out mine. Tantu Cardinal in Killers of the Flower Mine. The late cut for me.
[00:45:41] I already said um yeah the killer ladies obviously I like them uh Patti LuPone I think film How to Have Sex, which won the Uncertain Regard prize at the Cannes Film Festival, and it follows these three British teenage girls on a rite of passage holiday where they're drinking and clubbing and hooking up in the streets of Malia, you know, in Greece. A feature debut from rising British filmmaker Molly Manning-Walker, notably the cinematographer of Scrapper, one of your favorite movies of 2023.
[00:47:01] An excellent film.
[00:47:03] But I just will, I do want to warn you tackle this other problem on this side so you want to give her a call soon but yeah How to Have Sex is now playing only in theaters visit movie.com slash how to have sex one word to see showtimes and get tickets that's m-u-b-i dot com slash how to have sex
[00:48:25] best supporting actor I'm taking him off mine. You asked me to go first! Sorry, Hugo, you're off mine. That was clever. Honestly, no, it was honestly mostly just to make you happy. I was hoping it would delight you. No, he was in there, no question for me. He's so good. And then ready for my swerve? Corey Michael Smith in May-December. My favorite thing about it, which I believe is so is just everyone's just kind of there. And like the defendant can kind of be like, wait, that's bullshit. You can talk in a second. Hush, hush, hush. You know, like, but it's a lot of that. It's also like that's bullshit. Don't you think that's bullshit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but my favorite thing is just the guys reading the book.
[00:51:02] The book is pretty stupid.
[00:51:04] That can be like evidence.
[00:51:06] Not good.
[00:51:07] Fabia. were just like, that's like dumb of me to think all Australian men. He's a middle aged Australian actor. It must be Hugo Weaving. That was me watching Sam Neill in Hunt for the Wilderpeople. Yeah. This is like that times a million. He's so good in it though. He is. He rocks in it. I think he's kind of the best thing about it.
[00:52:21] And I generally like it.
[00:52:23] That's another movie that arguably kind of falls apart in the last 10 minutes.
[00:52:27] In an Eileen way of just like, we don't know how to end this.
[00:53:21] This guy's crazy.
[00:53:23] I like murdering people.
[00:53:25] Oh, you say he's a kind of son.
[00:53:27] That's interesting. You mind if I write that down in my little book?
[00:53:30] My book that says people I'm going to mean things to.
[00:53:33] Were you going to give it to Rami? Who were you saying say it about?
[00:53:35] No, I just wasn't sure who your fifth was going to be.
[00:53:36] I mean, Hartnett's great.
[00:53:38] Hartnett would be in my five.
[00:53:40] Well, Hartnett's in my five, like, hunkiest.
[00:53:43] Downey Jr., Jason Clark, I think, is my number two.
[00:53:44] Clark's great.
[00:53:45] He's really good.
[00:53:48] He's really, really good, especially in the scene with Emily Blunt.
[00:53:49] You know who I love? kind of a great year for him. Coming off a couple great years. But like, it's also the Alpha and the Omega. Like, in showing up, he's playing this character who's like, so besieged by something we don't fully understand, right? It's a major work as he's digging a hole. Right. And then in past lives, the fucking grimming Alpha confidence of this guy of like, yeah, go see the person you've been sort of entangled with
[00:55:02] your whole life. I'll be here playing Xbox.
[00:55:04] You're gonna come right back to me, baby.
[00:55:06] But see, I would say-
[00:55:07] It's because I love you want to know how this product came into being? I bet you do. Like that kind of thing. And instead it's like the first great version of that.
[00:56:21] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:23] It's an incredible movie.
[00:56:24] But Glen Howard, it's just like incredible.
[00:56:26] I was talking to my friend about it and he was like, he did something I thought was funny. And it's not like, here's my big take on it. It is the opposite of Jason Momoa and Fast X, my single least favorite performance of the year. Where that just feels like him going, what's the weirdest thing I can do at every moment that will be perfect fucking gif bait,
[00:57:40] versus Ryan Gosling is doing something funny
[00:57:42] every three seconds,
[00:57:43] but it's based on such a weirdly specific handle
[00:57:46] on that character's psychology. Evans of Pain Hustlers. I took the permission slip to not see Pain Hustlers once nobody talked about Pain Hustlers. You know Chris Evans last theatrically released film? What? Knives Out. Oh, if you have to do the release, it was Knives Out. Yeah. If you don't count, Lightyear. Chris, I guess I count that. I love Chris Evans and I need Chris Evans to
[00:59:02] love himself. Going on five years of making the worst streaming bullshit in the world. I said, in addition to Joe. Right, and I'm looking at my glasses and saying, maybe this will come up again later. Corey Michael Smith is... Jumps off of that screen. The second you see him, even just when he's still on that stage and just being like a little bitch. He's got like three scenes, he's got less than ten minutes. He's so good. But you're just like, there's kind of a complete arc
[01:00:21] to his three scenes in the movie.
[01:00:23] And it's like, you've heard about the character some.
[01:00:25] A lot of his characterization comes from other people talking about him.
[01:01:24] someone like Melton where it's like, you know, they don't have him in mind. All of the kids are incredible in it.
[01:01:25] Right, exactly. The kids are great. Like all the, you know, it's, it is a beautiful cast.
[01:01:28] The lawyer, her ex-husband, like all those performances are incredible.
[01:01:32] Corey Michael Smith, I think is always great.
[01:01:34] The bees?
[01:01:35] Jumped out.
[01:01:35] I mean butterflies. Fuck.
[01:01:36] Jesus fucking Christ.
[01:01:37] Beautiful butterflies.
[01:01:38] Corey Michael Smith playing Chevy Chase in the Reitman SNL movie.
[01:01:42] Oh yeah.
[01:01:42] Little intriguing to me.
[01:01:43] I'm into that. David, I definitely thought you were going to do Holt McAlany for the Iron Claw.
[01:01:47] You went the other way that is not repetitive. Yeah, who else you got? Come on Let's keep going. Let's keep going. I mean Antoine Reinhardt's I call that all my guys. Yeah Okay, so he's a lawyer now. I do want to shout out hot lawyer as well hot lawyers great who is so
[01:03:04] Is that he is hot and there's a counterpoint because inside tired
[01:04:03] too big, I mean the movie revolves around his too big testimony. And it's a bizarre stylized performance.
[01:04:05] Exactly. When you realize like, yo, this is so many choices being made.
[01:04:10] And the first time where he's trying to come across as like, well, I mean, this is all very ridiculous,
[01:04:15] but of course I'll tell you what happened. You know, he's like talking out of the side of his mouth.
[01:04:19] I remember seeing the trailer for that movie, and that's a hard movie to trailer.
[01:04:23] Yeah, sure.
[01:04:24] But going like, oh, Kief. He's a cutie pie. Who are your winners, guys? Charles Melton in May, December. I guess I didn't talk about him. Great, fucking great. He's great. Yeah. And he holds his own. Yeah, with Natalie Portman and Jennifer. And I do not mean that in a patronizing way.
[01:05:40] I don't feel that way about a top tier actor.
[01:05:44] It's also a performance the Gosling performance of like, the minute she's like,
[01:07:00] I let someone else eat me out.
[01:07:02] And he's just like, he just watched
[01:07:04] all of his confidence shatter in one second.
[01:08:07] spirits this year. Bo is afraid. Oh, Ari Aster. Still eligible because he's never been on this podcast. It was written by Ari Aster and a giant penis. Yes. That lives in his
[01:08:11] head. Yes. And fallen leaves. Fantastic. We have a lot of similarity. Okay. My friend,
[01:08:18] which is I also have Wes Anderson for asteroid city and Ari Aster for Bo is afraid and Aki
[01:08:23] Karasmaki for fallen leaves. And then I had Jonathan Raymond and Kelly Raycard for showing a number of character dynamics that I could think about for years, right? Like watching that movie, I was like, this could go in another 10 hours. I would never get tired of watching different combinations of these characters in different environments react to things. Asteroid City is just like the ultimate heightening of Wes's insane obsession with like Russian nesting doll structure
[01:09:41] and creating like frames around his saying Killers of the original. If Barbie is adapted because it's Barbie, then I think Godzilla can be adapted. I mean, I'm going by Oscar rules, but I bought Barbie sort of as original. I don't know. I couldn't I couldn't I don't know how I would have been fine if they would have said Barbie is original. I think it's adapted, but I would say Godzilla minus one is more adapted off of the original
[01:12:23] Godzilla than most Godzilla films are just adapted successfully, totally crack a human narrative that is completely engaging from beginning to end that feels directly tied to Godzilla. It almost feels like it could, like it couldn't, but like, long parts of it could exist independently of Godzilla.
[01:13:41] It could just be about like a guy trying to like
[01:13:43] recover from the war.
[01:13:44] And there are other Godzilla movies that have that,
[01:13:45] but then the Godzilla elements feel extraneous from that. because it makes more sense than when I do my best picture. Spoiler. No, I think I get where it doesn't work for everybody, obviously. To me, it's not to play the personal experience card, but it is the rare gay movie that speaks to the Gen X experience specifically, which is very, very, very much the sort of wilderness in the middle
[01:15:03] of the eighth generation of the 80s
[01:16:02] does sometimes feel like you are this sort of like specter in between.
[01:16:03] And you also have like the, you know,
[01:16:06] this generation of like still trying to recover
[01:16:08] from whatever trauma existed from.
[01:16:10] Even if you weren't able to come out to your parents,
[01:16:13] you still had that fear of, so it's like all of that stuff
[01:16:17] I thought Andrew Haig really, really synthesizes it
[01:16:19] really well.
[01:16:20] To me, the ghost story thing really worked.
[01:16:23] And I get where like, that's the thing
[01:16:24] that's probably the sticking point realist supernatural element on. And I was astounded to then be reminded, oh right, this is based on a book. The book is fairly different. His parents are still alive. It is a film that feels so. But he said those are his, like obviously he is very, and it was shot in his childhood home.
[01:17:40] Yes, it is just a film.
[01:17:41] I think that's what I find so fascinating
[01:17:43] about it as an adaptation is he took a preexisting work
[01:17:46] and he added elements that are so personal into it It was a weird contingency of its funding. Well I like this movie so much, I wouldn't mind watching extra footage. And then you watch it and you're like, there's maybe five minutes of extra footage. Most of the extra running time is just adding credit sequences. Right, and also ads for Canadian films and TIFF. And you brought it back to Canada.
[01:19:01] I did a one week pre-trial of AMC Plus
[01:19:03] and then canceled it immediately.
[01:19:04] Who's your winner, Joe?
[01:19:06] My winner is actually Barbie.
[01:20:01] at this point, like, yeah. She had her some Turkish delight,
[01:20:02] you can let her back in.
[01:20:03] She had it set before Barbie.
[01:20:06] Barbie obviously was so huge,
[01:20:08] got elected President of the United States.
[01:20:10] Amazingly so, yeah.
[01:20:11] Yeah, but I was just like, the post-Barbie position,
[01:20:14] she could make whatever she wants.
[01:20:16] She could make her water world now,
[01:20:19] and if she makes the greatest calamity imaginable,
[01:20:22] Netflix would let her go back and make Narnia after that.
[01:20:25] I'm like, Narnia's a safe rebound from anything she does next. flower moon yeah that's weird yeah silliness okay uh the blankies uh gave it to yeah op e was their winner uh there you got me margaret was fifth uh poor things was fourth okay barbie third flower moon op e i should say uh zone of interest is my most embarrassing blind spot this year that i still have not introduced you're like well that's not a character right and the journey you go on it's it's very rewarding my fifth nominee ruby gilman teenage kraken really think Mario is successful. Oh, I don't like it. I disagree strong. Yeah Well, he disagrees strongly best voiceover performance. Yeah, who you got Chris Pratt Adam Sandler and Leo Chris Brown because the character I love doesn't really talk Chris for Haley Steinfeld across the spider-verse
[01:24:22] She's so good incredible Chris Pratt the lead of the movie Bradley Cooper Guardians of Galaxy volume 3
[01:25:21] I'm saying this like really? Where's Chris Pratt though?
[01:25:23] Pratty Pratt Pratt?
[01:25:24] He was too busy eating spaghetti with meatballs
[01:25:28] and a pizza pie and drinking lemon shallow.
[01:25:31] Chris Pratt did play Mario,
[01:25:34] but didn't play the guy in Elemental
[01:25:36] who's like, what does he look like?
[01:25:37] Well, if Chris Pratt was just made of water,
[01:25:40] he would look like this guy and it's bizarre.
[01:25:44] He's also playing Cara Field.
[01:25:46] Oh dear.
[01:25:47] Well, he does love the list. OK. The Pope's Exorcist parentheses Vespa. Just the Vespa from The Pope's Exorcist makes it in for production. I would say he's a putters and murmurs contender, but he's more of a, you know, of rumors and yellers. He's not really puttering in that one. I guess his best thing is kind of puttering along. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, should we call out other craft things that there's things I don't I don't have full
[01:27:02] fives written out for a lot of them.
[01:27:04] I have full fives for for everything.
[01:27:06] Let's just yeah. Let's pick one would be my visual effects winner as well. you think it does. It chooses its moments very well, but it's also just unbelievably well realized. My other four production design nominations besides the Pope's Exorcist Vespa are Asteroid City because Wes should always be in production. Same. Barbie because it creates a world of Barbie. Bo is afraid for, if nothing else, creating
[01:28:21] the most like emotionally true New York City, terrifying New York City. Like, oh, what if
[01:28:27] you made a New York City out of just anxiety? him a couple years ago, not realizing who he was. From President Woodrow Wilson. It showed up on my Instagram timeline and someone was like, you should buy this and I bought it from him and then later found out, oh, he's a listener and he did all the Ninja Turtles designs but that movie, Ben, you will see it soon. You have not seen it yet. No, I have not. That is a movie that somehow carries over this aesthetic
[01:29:41] of everything looking like doodles done in the margins
[01:29:44] of a notebook during class say it's that's what if we can just go there basically like ten people involved in that performance And I'm saying the three facets. I'm including
[01:31:02] I'm saying there's the vocal right? There's the specialon. Yes, Robbie Robertson killers of the flower moon is incredible work I agree rip I had Naoki Sato for Godzilla minus one. I think it really good music in that movie Alfonso de
[01:32:20] Villa longa for robot dreams again shout out to robot dreams love that movie
[01:33:21] I know I keep bringing up that movie. It's just like think of the movie
[01:33:23] besides the one you just saw last.
[01:33:25] But yeah.
[01:33:26] Can I also say for songs, I don't wanna like,
[01:33:28] I don't like, whatever.
[01:33:29] I'm just Ken should win the Oscar.
[01:33:31] And I think Wonka deserved a song nominee.
[01:33:34] The fact that Wonka didn't show up on the shortlist
[01:33:36] is dumb I think.
[01:33:37] There are pretty, I just think the songs are mad.
[01:33:39] I think the world of our own is a really of.
[01:33:41] Wonka songs rock.
[01:33:42] But whatever, we've already been declared
[01:33:44] like enemies of the people for liking Wonka.
[01:33:46] Wonka's good and fun.
[01:33:47] Timmy's very good in it. named after Vin Diesel's character in Billy Lynn's long halftime walk, which is a performance I most wish I could nominate. Yeah. And this is kind of conscience. Right. I'm just like, you're ready to love. I went into the year going, how do I not? And I think this is a split. And I saw people in past months being like, I can't wait for the inevitable. Griffin nominates him for this, which is who's the name split in two categories.
[01:35:04] Nick Cage for both Dream Scenario and Renfield.
[01:35:07] Very very good in both those movies. sure yeah asteroid city's really argued yeah i'm like would that be my five as well i have i have asteroid city bows afraid iron claw which i think looks tremendous taste of things and perfect days yeah uh taste of things best soup yes 100 percent my my other major embarrassing
[01:36:21] blind spot was that really because they just fucking released it last week yeah that's why
[01:36:24] so you're right those those villains that's actually the only one i don't feel guilty about The actress's name is Benedetta Porcaroli. Benedetta Porcaroli, I think is her name. And she's in Amanda. She's the lead, she's the titular role in Amanda. And Alma Poisti in Thawne Leaves. Who's amazing. Yes. Those were my top. She did, which was cool. The movie, those worthless shits.
[01:37:42] My actress nominees are Jennifer Lawrence, she was my pick. Love that movie. I love that movie and I love her. Love her especially. It looks so great that she's back. I'm very happy that Jennifer Lawrence is back. I agree, I mean look, the only thing that's kind of a bummer
[01:39:02] is it does feel like anyone but you got the bump
[01:39:05] of people watching No Hard Feelings and Netflix
[01:39:08] and wishing they had seen it in theaters. Yeah, like in a minute. I'll just put this on the books for next year to call a winner early Okay, I think I know it was last year came out the end of 2023 anyone but you yeah So then let me give an honorific here. Okay best close-up shot of a pee hole in a movie best urethra It goes to anyone but you Wow, right? Alright, okay
[01:40:21] My five has got an NC 17 for shadowy butt crack and anyone but you goes head on
[01:41:22] her Finnish last name in volumes. I'm with you on that one.
[01:41:23] So good.
[01:41:24] Karen Mulligan's kind of in the weird space of like,
[01:41:27] is she almost getting bumped up
[01:41:29] from what is a supporting performance?
[01:41:31] As great as I think she is in it.
[01:41:33] I'm surprised there wasn't more talk about that,
[01:41:35] except for the fact that there was so much buzz
[01:41:37] when that movie came out around her first billing.
[01:41:40] And I love Maestro.
[01:41:42] People know I love Maestro on main.
[01:41:45] I do think that's the most I feel like I like that movie a little less than most people, I like it a lot, but it's a movie that many people are religious about, but that performance just knocks me out of like, for how much of it is her in close up listening? Or looking at a computer screen? Yes. Yeah.
[01:43:00] And her face is barely moving and she is saying so much.
[01:43:04] Well, because it has to lead up to,
[01:43:06] she can't release until the very, but I think Margot Robbie as Barbie is the performance of the year. That movie falls apart. It doesn't fall apart, but like it really does not work. So my mind doesn't nail it. Counter to what you said walking out of the theater. I went to see it with a good friend friend of the
[01:44:24] podcast Orlando Alia and I turned to him and I was like. You feel like you got the sense of it from the trailers and then you watch the movie and it's like, oh no, you're doing so, so, so much. It's kind of my thing against the Emma Stone performance. I do, I prefer the way, they're not identical movies. Not at all. But I do, I'm more by Margot Robbie playing the awakening of consciousness.
[01:45:42] Yeah, I don't, but that's not a negative on Margot Robbie.
[01:45:46] They're both very stylized.
[01:46:44] It's one of the best coming of age movies I've seen in a long time. But feels like a real stars born performance.
[01:46:47] No, that was Bradley Cooper.
[01:46:48] Oh, I'm sorry.
[01:46:50] It feels like a real maestro performance from her.
[01:46:53] Salma Hayek Magic Mike's Last Dance.
[01:46:55] Salma Hayek Peanut.
[01:46:57] I'm sorry?
[01:46:58] I feel like that you've been riding for that from the second it came out, right?
[01:47:01] Like yeah, like a year ago and I was like this is someone who is primarily a comedic actress, is on Call Your Agent, giving this incredibly subtle,
[01:48:20] similarly kind of nostril performance
[01:48:23] as a woman who sort of life is collapsing
[01:48:25] and is trying to find her way out of poverty, already taking it for granted. We begged her to do something like this. She did it. She was luminous and funny. And everyone was like, yeah, fine. Can you make another rom-com though? And it's just like, what do we want from her at this point? Her line deliveries make me laugh so hard in it. I do think the next time she does this, there's going to be an overreaction.
[01:49:42] That's possible, right?
[01:49:43] I'm trying to think of my favorite. There'sana Taylor, you guys, Griffin and anyone else should really watch that movie. It's remarkable stuff from a person who's acting is not her primary job even.
[01:51:01] She's more of a songwriter and a dancer and she's amazing.
[01:51:05] I also feel just to speak to Michelle Williams very quickly, youformed, which I think she does perfectly well. I think she does exceptionally well, in fact. But even against other subtle micro performances, I think it's actually just character playing against her, if that makes sense? That part of what I think is fascinating about that movie
[01:52:23] is a bit of the void at the center, which she does very well.
[01:52:23] Yeah.
[01:52:25] I totally forgot to mention, of course,
[01:52:29] that our presenters here are Idris Elba, It's probably my fucking Magic Mike last dance full-time. We're like, she's cruising to a best actress nomination next year, Daisy Ridley. And I'm just like, how did all my friends see this a year ago at Sundance and not spoil for me, A, that there was a literal pasta dinner in that film.
[01:53:40] Where a man makes her pasta in order to woo her
[01:53:43] and I would say it works.
[01:53:44] It works, although it takes some negotiation.
[01:53:47] Which I would say is almost more appealing to me.
[01:54:42] said Lydia Tarr as Cate Blanchett as Lydia Tarr. Right, or whatever.
[01:54:43] Yeah, so Cate Blanchett for both of us
[01:54:45] and Rebecca Hall for Joe.
[01:54:47] Yeah, I really liked that movie, huh?
[01:54:48] I did Blanchett too.
[01:54:49] Yeah, you did.
[01:54:50] I'm almost surprised.
[01:54:52] Best actor, should I go first?
[01:54:53] You wanna go first, David, so no one can snipe you.
[01:54:55] Cillian Murphy and Oppenheimer,
[01:54:57] Jason Schwartzman and, oh wait,
[01:54:58] who are our winners for actress?
[01:55:00] Jesus.
[01:55:01] Oh, well my winner, Margot Rokilami.
[01:55:03] The performance of the movie.
[01:55:04] Lily Gladstone.
[01:55:04] Okay, great.
[01:55:05] Cillian Murphy for Oppenheimer, Like it's so amazing. I love it. And his greatest threat is Paul Giamatti being the ultimate mensch, which none of us can protest. No, I certainly cannot. If Giamatti wins, I will shed a tear of happiness. You know who'd be happy if Giamatti wins? Killian Murphy will be happy. Killian Murphy will be. I'm sure he will be. He'll be like, good for him, I love that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:56:20] He's a mate.
[01:56:22] Wait, did you see, I know I keep bringing up,
[01:56:24] did you see somebody at the Psych Awards?
[01:56:25] Bran has now gone full beard, for best actor. Charles Melton in May, December. I mean, you teased this. I teased a couple of things coming up here. Andrew Scott, all of us strangers. Bradley Cooper in Maestro. Cillian Murphy in Oppenheimer. And Andrew Barth Feldman in No Hard Feelings. He fucking rules. My other fucking like unbelievable comedic performance
[01:57:42] of the year, the opposite of Gosling in Barbie,
[01:57:45] where it's like. I'd say it's exaggerated on the script level. And he finds a way to make every decision not feel exaggerated. Yeah. He's just like, this is a real guy. I mean, that the fucking Coke Pepsi thing goes straight into him explaining his wet dream about Harley Quinn, which is another thing that feels so, so well, not to mention his fucking Oscar clip of him performing man.
[01:59:01] I know. I know.
[01:59:02] It's amazing. That is like one of the most heartrending moments.
[01:59:05] Well, where's his name?
[01:59:06] It's one of those things right here on my fucking list.