The Second Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David

[00:00:05] Blank Check with Griffin and David

[00:00:09] Don't know what to say or to expect

[00:00:13] All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check

[00:00:20] And now, pre-recorded from a closet at UCB Studios in New York City

[00:00:28] It's the Second Annual Blank Check Awards

[00:00:33] Here are your hosts, the two friends

[00:00:37] And why don't you put a hashtag in front of that

[00:00:40] David Sims and Griffin Newman

[00:00:43] Thank you

[00:00:44] Oh hi everybody

[00:00:45] That guy from the voiceovers

[00:00:47] Hi, thank you voiceover guy

[00:00:48] What's his name? He died

[00:00:49] Uh, oh fuck, what's his name? Don LaFontaine

[00:00:52] There you go

[00:00:53] It's me, the ghost of Don LaFontaine

[00:00:56] Yeah

[00:00:57] My unfinished business is done

[00:00:59] I return now to the Netherworld

[00:01:02] Oh thank you Don

[00:01:03] Bye Don, he's going into the Netherworld

[00:01:05] Oh bye, Don is being sucked down the town

[00:01:07] Yeah, we're to know that the Netherworld is where he belongs

[00:01:09] Yeah, I guess we finally got an answer

[00:01:11] You know when we started this podcast we said we were going to answer

[00:01:14] What happens when we die?

[00:01:16] Well originally it was who killed Heyman Lee

[00:01:19] I don't know who that is

[00:01:20] From cereal

[00:01:21] Oh sure, right yes

[00:01:22] When we answered that within one episode

[00:01:24] Yeah

[00:01:25] Since then we've been trying to answer what happens after death

[00:01:27] Apparently you have a list of unfinished business and when you finish it

[00:01:31] It's sucked down to the Netherworld

[00:01:33] If you're Don LaFontaine, that's actually all we know

[00:01:35] That's true

[00:01:36] You might need a larger case study

[00:01:37] A larger case study might have some dark shit in this past

[00:01:39] We don't know

[00:01:40] He does, definitely

[00:01:41] He did the voiceover for Daddy Day Camp

[00:01:42] Oh

[00:01:43] Alright

[00:01:44] Welcome to the blankies

[00:01:46] Cuba Gooding Jr.

[00:01:48] Daddy Day Camp

[00:01:50] He's in Daddy Day Camp?

[00:01:51] Cuba Gooding? Yeah, you were playing Study Murphy

[00:01:54] God that guy had a real long like valley

[00:01:59] It's a deep, it was like a grand canyon

[00:02:01] So this is that tradition where the blank check awards always start

[00:02:04] With the discussion of Cuba Gooding Jr.

[00:02:06] The two hosts come out on stage

[00:02:08] In 2000s career

[00:02:09] In a door and crowd they talk about

[00:02:11] Cuba Gooding Jr. definitely announced the Oscar nominations right?

[00:02:14] That feels, no?

[00:02:15] Nope

[00:02:16] I mean that feels like an easy choice

[00:02:18] Because they had women for so many of them

[00:02:21] Right

[00:02:22] It's such a tradition to have like a previously Oscar nominated woman

[00:02:25] Right

[00:02:26] But I mean like he's just like it's that

[00:02:28] Because it's always someone where you're like it's like Mera Sorvino

[00:02:31] It's been Mera Sorvino twice

[00:02:32] Yeah, where you're just like it's like oh yeah

[00:02:34] It's like someone who's an Oscar nominee

[00:02:36] But like you know can get up in the morning

[00:02:38] She won

[00:02:39] He's not that busy

[00:02:40] Wait she won as did Cuba

[00:02:41] Yes, yeah

[00:02:42] I remember I remember Sigourney doing it

[00:02:44] I'm just saying it

[00:02:45] I'm sorry, Sigourney doing it

[00:02:46] He's number one

[00:02:47] Rude

[00:02:48] I know it is rude

[00:02:49] Nominated twice in one year has never won

[00:02:51] Matthew Bates has done it a couple of times

[00:02:53] Yeah

[00:02:54] M.G. Harden

[00:02:55] I mean Salma

[00:02:56] Obviously we just talked about Ms. Hayek

[00:02:59] But yeah for always and forever it was

[00:03:02] The president of the Academy was male

[00:03:04] Right

[00:03:05] So they would match him up with

[00:03:06] Yes

[00:03:07] A female

[00:03:08] A sexy name

[00:03:09] Yes, a sexy lady

[00:03:10] Yeah

[00:03:11] Or sometimes Denzel Washington

[00:03:12] Right

[00:03:13] And now we're in the Cheryl Boone Isaacs regime

[00:03:16] Yes

[00:03:18] I love Cheryl Boone Isaacs

[00:03:19] I do too

[00:03:20] But it's like oh we get John Krasinski

[00:03:22] Yeah

[00:03:23] Hey man

[00:03:24] He's swole

[00:03:25] It seemed for a while that she was just like going through the list of the famous Chrissas too

[00:03:29] Which was kind of funny

[00:03:30] That's true

[00:03:31] I'm just behind it once

[00:03:32] What if they did all the Hemsworths

[00:03:34] Oh

[00:03:35] Including I think there's like a fourth one out there

[00:03:36] I think so too

[00:03:37] Yeah get him

[00:03:38] There's always gonna be another Hemsworth

[00:03:39] Which one do you like

[00:03:40] Like the Westworld one

[00:03:41] He's cute, you know he's little

[00:03:42] I know that

[00:03:43] Have you seen me he's low

[00:03:44] I think that's why I like him

[00:03:45] Even watching the show you kind of could tell he was little

[00:03:46] Yeah

[00:03:47] He carries himself differently

[00:03:48] He looks sort of close to his height

[00:03:49] Yeah

[00:03:50] Chris Hemsworth has got a big ass head

[00:03:51] Chris Hemsworth is such an underrated actor

[00:03:53] I know

[00:03:55] Yes

[00:03:56] Liam is a big old underrated

[00:03:57] No

[00:03:58] Liam I'm still like I'm looking at the watch there

[00:04:00] I'm like come on Liam show me what you got

[00:04:02] He is not show me what he's

[00:04:03] What he got

[00:04:04] No not yet

[00:04:05] Right

[00:04:06] And what's the other one called

[00:04:07] Liam, Chris

[00:04:08] The other one

[00:04:10] Pudgy

[00:04:12] Pudgy Hems

[00:04:13] Mudface Hemsworth

[00:04:14] Luke

[00:04:15] Luke

[00:04:16] I googled

[00:04:17] Other Hemsworth

[00:04:18] That's the first result

[00:04:20] Yeah

[00:04:21] His Wikipedia

[00:04:22] I call him Little Hemsworth

[00:04:23] Little Hemi

[00:04:25] We have a guest

[00:04:26] So producer Ben can you drop in

[00:04:28] The montage of us placing ourselves

[00:04:30] In the big movies of 2016

[00:04:32] No

[00:04:33] Of course

[00:04:34] And then of course producer Ben is not here for this episode

[00:04:36] So can you drop in audio producer Ben

[00:04:38] Saying that he will edit in

[00:04:40] Sure

[00:04:41] I didn't do it but whatever

[00:04:42] Here with us very special guest

[00:04:45] He was you know him best from

[00:04:47] The first annual blank check awards

[00:04:49] That's right

[00:04:50] And you'll know him going forward from

[00:04:51] The third annual blank check awards

[00:04:53] Market

[00:04:54] Market, ladies and gentlemen good friend of ours

[00:04:56] We're gonna be talking about

[00:04:57] Split

[00:04:58] Yeah

[00:04:59] Yeah

[00:05:00] I have a new number one actually

[00:05:01] Oh already

[00:05:02] Split got him thrown

[00:05:03] Man

[00:05:04] De-throned

[00:05:05] What's your new number one

[00:05:06] Wicked 2

[00:05:07] That was not hard to predict

[00:05:08] I've now seen five movies from 2017 baby

[00:05:11] So I got a best picture slate for 2017

[00:05:13] I don't want it

[00:05:16] Joe Reed is here

[00:05:17] Yes

[00:05:18] Joe Reed

[00:05:19] Happy to be the David Niven of the blankies

[00:05:21] Always

[00:05:22] From Decider

[00:05:24] Yes

[00:05:25] From our trivia team

[00:05:27] Yeah

[00:05:28] From the previous blank check awards

[00:05:29] So this is just you know

[00:05:30] This is where we get

[00:05:32] We give ourselves the blank check

[00:05:33] Once a year

[00:05:34] That's true

[00:05:35] We get the check

[00:05:36] And we go

[00:05:37] I think we get that check every week

[00:05:38] I don't think so

[00:05:39] Usually this episode

[00:05:40] This show is tight tight tight

[00:05:41] It's tight and we're just

[00:05:42] Doing what the man tells us to do

[00:05:43] That's right

[00:05:44] But then once a year we get the blank check

[00:05:46] And we go

[00:05:47] What if we picked the awards

[00:05:48] Right

[00:05:49] Which we all do every year anyway

[00:05:52] You've always done

[00:05:53] Before we had any kind of a podcast

[00:05:55] Or before we had any sort of friendship

[00:05:57] Before even at a computer I did this

[00:05:59] Yes

[00:06:00] Oh man it's a lonely Oscar obsessed

[00:06:03] Before we had

[00:06:04] Social acumen

[00:06:05] We would

[00:06:06] Pick the awards

[00:06:07] Hey I was always a very charming boy

[00:06:09] It's adorable that you think I have

[00:06:10] Social acumen now by the way

[00:06:11] So thank you

[00:06:12] So yeah I mean it's February

[00:06:14] Oscar season is almost over

[00:06:17] Thank God

[00:06:18] That's true

[00:06:19] The Oscars are coming up

[00:06:20] And you say that when it's

[00:06:21] Literally three more weeks of it

[00:06:23] Like

[00:06:24] Fucking hell

[00:06:25] Kimmel is going to host a ceremony

[00:06:28] He did an excellent job at the Emmys

[00:06:30] I'm usually very tepid on Kimmel

[00:06:32] But I will say

[00:06:33] I thought he was pretty good at me

[00:06:34] Yeah he was a good at me

[00:06:35] What if one of the nominees

[00:06:37] Catches on fire

[00:06:38] And then Kimmel comes out

[00:06:39] And goes

[00:06:40] Kimmel man he's famous for so many things

[00:06:43] Like that

[00:06:44] And mean tweets

[00:06:46] And at one time he was actually

[00:06:48] Addicted to Jay Leno

[00:06:49] And it was great

[00:06:50] Like a one good thing he ever did

[00:06:51] One moment we all liked him

[00:06:52] What's the overunder on how many

[00:06:54] Matt Damon jokes are going to be

[00:06:55] At this Oscar

[00:06:56] 14

[00:06:57] Matt Damon is a producer of

[00:06:58] Matt Damon

[00:06:59] He's going to be a producer

[00:07:00] Of Matt Damon

[00:07:01] And he's going to be a producer

[00:07:02] Of Matt Damon

[00:07:03] And he's going to be a producer

[00:07:04] Of Matt Damon

[00:07:05] And he's going to be a producer

[00:07:06] Of Matt Damon

[00:07:07] And he's going to be a producer

[00:07:08] Of Manchester by the Sext

[00:07:10] Literally fuck Matt Damon

[00:07:11] And there'll be a video

[00:07:12] Like it'll be the peak

[00:07:14] Right like he's actually going to do it now

[00:07:16] Affleck will do something

[00:07:18] His version of the crystal video

[00:07:19] Will be he'll pick every sexy

[00:07:21] Matt Damon has had in a movie

[00:07:22] And superimpose himself into it

[00:07:24] Matt Damon had a lot of sex scenes

[00:07:25] I don't feel like Matt Damon's a sex scene actor

[00:07:27] That's a really good point actually

[00:07:28] I can't think of one

[00:07:29] I'm like racking my brains

[00:07:30] I can't think of one actually

[00:07:31] That's very interesting

[00:07:32] I mean there's the bath scene

[00:07:33] In talent of Mr Ripley

[00:07:34] Right

[00:07:35] And of course he watches Jude

[00:07:36] And Gwyneth has sex

[00:07:37] In talent of Mr Ripley

[00:07:38] How's the peepin?

[00:07:39] How's the peepin?

[00:07:40] Yeah exactly

[00:07:41] That's the best line ever

[00:07:42] How's the peepin Tommy

[00:07:43] How's the peepin?

[00:07:44] The thing with Ben Affleck

[00:07:45] And Matt Damon now

[00:07:46] Not to take us on a tangent

[00:07:47] But like

[00:07:48] It feels like that friendship

[00:07:50] Has become that kind of friendship

[00:07:52] Where like

[00:07:53] Ben's not friends with Matt's other friend

[00:07:55] Like Matt has lots of other friends

[00:07:57] He's friends with Krasinski

[00:07:58] And he's friends with Kimmel

[00:07:59] And like that whole

[00:08:00] I feel like Matt's sort of like

[00:08:01] Bringshaw

[00:08:02] Matt's a cool guy

[00:08:03] He's got kids

[00:08:04] Got a nice life

[00:08:05] Causes

[00:08:06] Yeah

[00:08:07] I don't feel like Ben meshes

[00:08:08] With Matt's other friends anymore

[00:08:09] I think he's that guy

[00:08:10] Yeah

[00:08:11] I mean what's weird is that

[00:08:12] Matt was gonna direct

[00:08:14] Manchester by the sea

[00:08:16] And was he gonna star in it?

[00:08:18] Okay so can I give my theory on this?

[00:08:20] Well first let's say what the

[00:08:21] Because people are not gonna know

[00:08:22] The story

[00:08:23] It was that he was gonna star in it right

[00:08:25] He got too busy

[00:08:26] With maybe with Jason Bourne

[00:08:27] A camera board with what

[00:08:29] And so he said like

[00:08:30] Kenny you know what

[00:08:31] You should direct this

[00:08:32] And Kasey Affleck should be the star

[00:08:34] Right?

[00:08:35] Krasinski and Damon

[00:08:37] Have this weird friendship right

[00:08:39] They wrote Promise Land together

[00:08:41] Terrible movie

[00:08:42] Damon was gonna direct it

[00:08:43] And then he dropped out

[00:08:44] We've talked about this

[00:08:45] And Kasey VS

[00:08:47] Damon did a solid

[00:08:48] Made a bad movie

[00:08:49] Damon keeps on threatening to

[00:08:50] Direct a movie and then dropping out

[00:08:51] Right

[00:08:52] And there was another movie

[00:08:53] He was supposed to direct it

[00:08:54] Now Gavin O'Connor just took over

[00:08:56] Man the taker over

[00:08:58] Gavin O'Connor

[00:08:59] He really is

[00:09:00] I mean talk

[00:09:01] Yeah this is the problem

[00:09:02] I mean well okay

[00:09:03] I'm not gonna go on and Gavin O'Connor

[00:09:05] Right

[00:09:06] We had this idea with Krasinski

[00:09:08] Yeah

[00:09:09] This is the story as they told it

[00:09:10] And he went to Lonergan

[00:09:11] And said hey could we hire you to write

[00:09:13] Yeah do you want to write this

[00:09:14] Right

[00:09:15] Lonergan wrote it

[00:09:16] He thought it was like

[00:09:17] You know for a higher job

[00:09:18] Lonergan wrote it and killed two more kids

[00:09:19] You know that right

[00:09:20] Oh no

[00:09:21] Cause they said like

[00:09:22] He loses his kid in a fire

[00:09:23] When Lonergan wrote it

[00:09:24] They were like three kids

[00:09:25] You sure Kenny

[00:09:26] And he was like yeah

[00:09:27] Yeah it's three

[00:09:28] Gotta do it

[00:09:29] It's a jailbreak

[00:09:30] Manchester Sportlers

[00:09:31] Yeah

[00:09:32] Oh yeah

[00:09:33] Los spoilers in this episode

[00:09:34] Yeah that's true

[00:09:35] Split the sequel to On Break

[00:09:36] Jesus

[00:09:37] One, two, three

[00:09:39] On Breakable

[00:09:40] I didn't even see that one coming

[00:09:42] I didn't either

[00:09:43] That's why I tried to do the countdown

[00:09:44] I thought you'd do it

[00:09:45] Yeah yeah

[00:09:46] We're usually good at that

[00:09:47] We are duly appointed federal marshes

[00:09:48] We are duly appointed federal marshes

[00:09:49] Alright

[00:09:51] Go ahead

[00:09:52] What's your theory

[00:09:53] Okay so

[00:09:54] Damon's supposed to star on it

[00:09:55] And he goes

[00:09:56] I'm too busy

[00:09:57] I don't have time to direct

[00:09:58] Too busy making a shitty fifth born movie

[00:10:00] Right Lonergan

[00:10:01] Can you direct

[00:10:02] And then Lonergan's like

[00:10:03] Okay fine I'll do that

[00:10:04] And then he's like

[00:10:05] Too busy to act in it

[00:10:06] Can you get my buddy Casey to do it

[00:10:07] Right

[00:10:08] Well yeah sure

[00:10:10] I don't think Damon ever intended to

[00:10:11] Star or direct that one

[00:10:12] You think it was like

[00:10:13] He was doing an intervention

[00:10:14] For Lonergan

[00:10:15] Who was unhireable at that point

[00:10:16] A lot of people have said that

[00:10:17] That he was like

[00:10:18] Really trying to get

[00:10:19] Kenny back in the game

[00:10:20] I think so

[00:10:21] Kenny was lost in a fog after Margaret

[00:10:23] Right

[00:10:24] And so right

[00:10:25] Making the best film in the last ten years

[00:10:26] He kind of parent trapped him

[00:10:27] He was kind of like

[00:10:28] Oh I'm making a movie

[00:10:29] I'm making a movie

[00:10:30] Can you just like

[00:10:31] You know write a little

[00:10:32] Write a few lines for me

[00:10:33] And then Kenny gets into it

[00:10:34] And he's like

[00:10:35] Hey Kenny

[00:10:36] What do you want to do to direct this

[00:10:37] And I think fundamentally

[00:10:38] Casey Affleck is right for that role

[00:10:39] In the way that Matt Damon is not

[00:10:40] 100%

[00:10:41] Oh yeah

[00:10:43] I got so worked up

[00:10:44] I swallowed my own spit

[00:10:45] I was going to say though

[00:10:46] Like the Lonergan comeback

[00:10:47] I feel like is a really

[00:10:48] Underreported story

[00:10:49] Of this Oscar season

[00:10:50] And that like

[00:10:51] He really was

[00:10:52] Like you said

[00:10:53] Like it was unemployable

[00:10:54] Like Margaret was such a

[00:10:56] High profile

[00:10:58] You know

[00:10:59] I mean it as

[00:11:00] I thought it turned out fantastically

[00:11:01] But like

[00:11:02] Who after that whole process

[00:11:03] Was going to be like

[00:11:04] I want to be in the kind of

[00:11:05] Lonergan business

[00:11:06] That was the thing

[00:11:07] Even after there were sort of

[00:11:08] The critical reevaluation

[00:11:09] Of that movie

[00:11:10] And like the save mark

[00:11:11] Campaign and all of that

[00:11:12] Like

[00:11:13] That

[00:11:14] The production of the movie

[00:11:15] Was such a nightmare

[00:11:16] That was like

[00:11:17] I was going to give him money

[00:11:18] To do this

[00:11:19] Like he ended up in a

[00:11:20] Five year lawsuit with the

[00:11:21] Produce

[00:11:22] That's true

[00:11:23] And now he's all the way back

[00:11:24] And the lawsuit even settled

[00:11:25] There's nothing better

[00:11:26] For the actual like

[00:11:27] Business of movie

[00:11:28] And making a movie

[00:11:29] That made good money

[00:11:30] Yep

[00:11:31] That was

[00:11:32] Acquired by Amazon

[00:11:33] But got a nice theatrical release

[00:11:34] Like a proper

[00:11:35] Cinematics

[00:11:36] You know release

[00:11:37] Still not available in

[00:11:38] Amazon Prime

[00:11:39] Because they like

[00:11:40] They do it right

[00:11:41] You know they give it six months

[00:11:42] I agree Amazon's a great company

[00:11:43] Everything they do is good

[00:11:44] I fucking do not

[00:11:45] Like Amazon in every respect

[00:11:46] But I do like how

[00:11:47] They handle their movies

[00:11:48] Yes

[00:11:49] And their TV

[00:11:50] So let's say all their media

[00:11:51] Is really really excellent

[00:11:52] And also

[00:11:54] You know

[00:11:55] I just love that

[00:11:56] Every morning I check the news

[00:11:57] And still nothing's come out

[00:11:58] About Jeff Bezos like

[00:12:00] Paying for the Dakota Pipeline

[00:12:01] Or anything

[00:12:02] I pass that graveyard my friend

[00:12:04] You know what I'm saying

[00:12:05] You know every day there's

[00:12:06] Like a new company where it's

[00:12:07] Like oh fuck okay I'm not

[00:12:08] Glad to like that company anymore

[00:12:09] Every morning I wake up

[00:12:10] And I'm like

[00:12:11] Please know how bad it is on stuff

[00:12:13] This is how I feel about

[00:12:14] Isabelle Hooper

[00:12:15] Throughout this entire

[00:12:16] Oscar season

[00:12:17] You're waiting for her to pull

[00:12:18] A Charlotte Ramford

[00:12:19] Oh don't say anything stupid

[00:12:20] No no Isabelle

[00:12:21] You know she has some

[00:12:22] Real bad opinions

[00:12:23] Learning in that French

[00:12:24] Brain of hers

[00:12:25] Frenchies

[00:12:26] You never know

[00:12:27] Waiting to come out

[00:12:28] Mary Ann Cotillard she's just like

[00:12:30] She just can't wait for someone

[00:12:31] To put a microphone in front of her

[00:12:32] So she can say like

[00:12:33] The moon lizards are doing something

[00:12:36] Yeah the mic was a goffine

[00:12:38] Thank you that's a joke for four people

[00:12:41] Alright

[00:12:42] So how are we going to do this

[00:12:45] Okay

[00:12:46] Do you want to do screen

[00:12:47] Supporting actors first

[00:12:48] I think we do supporting

[00:12:49] Classic Oscar style

[00:12:50] So yeah these are our picks

[00:12:53] Five nominees per category

[00:12:55] We'll discuss their nominees

[00:12:56] And each one of us will pick the winner

[00:12:58] Okay

[00:12:59] That's the rough format of this

[00:13:00] Loose show that's mostly just us

[00:13:01] Geeking out

[00:13:02] Exactly

[00:13:03] Yes

[00:13:04] I'll say this

[00:13:06] I've been in almost every category

[00:13:08] I've had like four out of five

[00:13:10] Settled and the fifth one

[00:13:11] I've been switching between a few positions

[00:13:13] Yup

[00:13:14] So I'm probably going to make

[00:13:15] Like a shotgun decision

[00:13:16] Yeah I did that

[00:13:17] It's going to be annoying

[00:13:18] I have at least one category

[00:13:19] We're right now on my

[00:13:20] When I made my list

[00:13:21] I have a list of six

[00:13:22] That I'm going to have to like

[00:13:23] Cut one on, you know, live on air

[00:13:25] Oh just FYI by the way

[00:13:26] You cannot nominate nocturnal animal

[00:13:28] Yeah that's the rule

[00:13:29] For any categories

[00:13:30] That's the rule

[00:13:31] Yeah

[00:13:32] Oh glad

[00:13:33] It is ineligible on the basis of sucking

[00:13:35] Yeah yeah that's the thing

[00:13:36] I would love that if I was like

[00:13:37] In charge of the jury

[00:13:38] And it's like the jury is a

[00:13:40] Academy jury's reach the verdict

[00:13:41] Which is all films are eligible

[00:13:42] Except for nocturnal animal

[00:13:43] So as you guys

[00:13:44] Because it was bad

[00:13:45] As you guys know

[00:13:46] As friends of mine

[00:13:48] Long time friends of mine

[00:13:49] Close friends of mine

[00:13:50] You like Michael S

[00:13:51] I like Michael S

[00:13:52] Oh sure

[00:13:53] No I wasn't going to say that

[00:13:54] I mean look I like Michael S

[00:13:55] That wouldn't even be my favorite

[00:13:56] Michael S performance here

[00:13:57] We've nominated him for two Oscars now

[00:13:59] For two of his worst performances

[00:14:00] It's kind of bizarre

[00:14:01] It's like Tucci turns two

[00:14:03] It is true

[00:14:04] I don't think nocturnal is one

[00:14:05] Of his worst performance

[00:14:06] No I think he's good

[00:14:07] But Revolutionary Road is

[00:14:08] Revolutionary Road definitely is

[00:14:09] He's you're right

[00:14:10] He's fine in it

[00:14:11] But it would like

[00:14:12] Why

[00:14:13] This is such a lie

[00:14:14] 15 Michael Shannon performances

[00:14:15] Probably

[00:14:16] I would say

[00:14:17] For Blankey's purposes

[00:14:18] He is presenting our best

[00:14:19] Supporting Actress Award

[00:14:20] Because he is Griffin's

[00:14:21] Winner last year

[00:14:22] For 99 Homes

[00:14:23] No for the night for the night

[00:14:24] For 94

[00:14:25] Sorry sorry sorry

[00:14:27] Forgot I forgot

[00:14:28] He is presenting

[00:14:29] I can't remember who

[00:14:30] My winner was

[00:14:31] I am Michael Shannon here

[00:14:32] I'm presenting the nominees

[00:14:33] For the night for the night

[00:14:34] Is he wearing his Hawaiian shirt

[00:14:35] To show it's numbers

[00:14:36] Best of working hand

[00:14:37] Yeah alright okay

[00:14:38] What I was going to say is

[00:14:41] As you guys know

[00:14:42] My catchphrase

[00:14:43] Which has been trademarked

[00:14:44] For a long time as

[00:14:45] Everything is terrible

[00:14:46] Everyone's the worst

[00:14:47] Yeah great catchphrase

[00:14:48] Saw nocturnal animals

[00:14:49] Really coming into

[00:14:50] Time right now

[00:14:51] I've been using it less

[00:14:52] Because now it feels kind of

[00:14:53] Hacked

[00:14:54] But

[00:14:55] Saw nocturnal animals

[00:14:56] And I was just like

[00:14:57] So what's the

[00:14:58] It's just everything's terrible

[00:14:59] Everyone's the worst

[00:15:00] Like at the end of that movie

[00:15:01] You're just like

[00:15:02] So the whole point is

[00:15:03] Fuck everybody

[00:15:04] Fuck everything

[00:15:05] Great how creative

[00:15:06] The other point is

[00:15:07] Jake Gyllenhaal isn't right

[00:15:08] For every role

[00:15:09] Yeah that's a good point

[00:15:10] And three comedy points

[00:15:11] Okay so

[00:15:12] Who was my supporting actor

[00:15:13] Winner last year

[00:15:14] Mine was Nicholas Holt

[00:15:15] I remember that

[00:15:16] And it was a good pick

[00:15:17] That was a cool pick

[00:15:18] It was a good pick

[00:15:19] Okay so this is Nicholas Holt

[00:15:20] Presenting with Michael Shannon

[00:15:21] With Michael Shannon

[00:15:22] And I'm sure who the fuck

[00:15:23] Would my winner have been

[00:15:24] Hello Nicholas Holt

[00:15:25] I'm literally like

[00:15:31] Like just sort of like

[00:15:32] Running down the list

[00:15:33] Rylance

[00:15:34] Obviously

[00:15:35] You really loved Rylance

[00:15:36] Yeah there we go

[00:15:37] That's what it is

[00:15:38] Jesus David

[00:15:39] I'm Michael Rylance

[00:15:40] I'm Nicholas Holt

[00:15:42] Alright go ahead

[00:15:43] Okay best supporting actress

[00:15:48] We do each of us

[00:15:51] Names their five right

[00:15:52] Yeah okay

[00:15:54] Boy I'm gonna have to make

[00:15:55] Under the gun to say

[00:15:56] Okay ready?

[00:15:57] Here we go

[00:15:58] Go ahead

[00:15:59] Michelle Williams

[00:16:00] For Manchester by the sea

[00:16:01] Good performance

[00:16:02] Very good performance

[00:16:04] In the least surprising

[00:16:05] Griffa nomination of all time

[00:16:07] Elle Fanning for 20th century women

[00:16:09] Uh huh she is good

[00:16:10] In the second least surprising

[00:16:12] Griffa nomination of all time

[00:16:14] Kate McKinnon for Ghostbusters

[00:16:16] Yeah she's good too

[00:16:17] Yeah she's actually a tough miss

[00:16:19] For me

[00:16:20] Lily Gladstone for certain women

[00:16:22] That's a good one

[00:16:23] And oh boy oh boy

[00:16:25] Uh oh who's my fifth gonna be

[00:16:27] Janelle Mene for moonlight

[00:16:30] For moonlight not for hidden figure

[00:16:32] That's a really good pick

[00:16:33] I saw moonlight again last night

[00:16:34] And her performance like leapt up the charts

[00:16:37] For me after seeing it a second time

[00:16:38] It is almost as good as Mahershala Lees

[00:16:40] In terms of like impact

[00:16:42] Versus minutes you know like

[00:16:44] You really feel her character

[00:16:45] Even though she's in it

[00:16:46] For what product 10 minutes

[00:16:47] She has two really signature scenes

[00:16:49] That jumped out at me

[00:16:50] Which is one of which was when Mahershala

[00:16:52] Is giving the uh

[00:16:54] Answering the kids question

[00:16:56] When he says what's the second

[00:16:57] And he says that's a thing

[00:16:59] That people call gay people

[00:17:01] And then he goes

[00:17:02] I suppose you could

[00:17:03] And she looks at him and she just shakes his head

[00:17:06] Like not the time

[00:17:07] Not the time

[00:17:08] She gets a nomination for me

[00:17:09] Almost exclusively

[00:17:11] That's a push serve there

[00:17:12] I saw the movie three times right

[00:17:14] And I saw it the third time last week

[00:17:15] And the first two times

[00:17:16] I kept on being like

[00:17:17] God this is such a good performance

[00:17:19] She's clearly like such a fucking

[00:17:21] Star to watch right

[00:17:22] Like just hit the ground running

[00:17:24] She's gonna have an amazing film career

[00:17:26] I wish there was a little more

[00:17:28] Screen time because I feel like

[00:17:30] She'd be one of my contenders

[00:17:31] And watching it the third time

[00:17:32] I was like

[00:17:33] What are these arbitrary rules

[00:17:34] I'm setting up because he doesn't

[00:17:35] Have enough screen time

[00:17:36] You're the boss

[00:17:37] Right I'm the boss

[00:17:38] And I just think like

[00:17:39] How much he makes out of

[00:17:40] We can't do this much conversation

[00:17:41] But who is your miss

[00:17:43] Who am I

[00:17:44] I'd say I have three close misses

[00:17:46] Okay

[00:17:47] It was sort of between Naomi Harris

[00:17:49] And General Mene for who got my moonlight slot

[00:17:51] Yeah I'd definitely take Mene over

[00:17:53] I think Harris is fine

[00:17:55] I think she's gotten a little bit more

[00:17:58] Of not that great in this great movie

[00:18:01] Conversation than maybe I would have

[00:18:03] I think she's good in the movie

[00:18:04] It's an oscarine performance

[00:18:05] That's right

[00:18:06] She's very good in the movie

[00:18:07] I think it's the most traditionally

[00:18:08] Oscary performance

[00:18:09] And the most actory performance

[00:18:10] In a movie where everyone else

[00:18:11] Is very naturalistic

[00:18:12] Which is fine

[00:18:13] But she's got the craziest arc to play

[00:18:15] Exactly it's bigger

[00:18:16] But that's authentic

[00:18:19] I'll say Lord Dern and certain women

[00:18:22] Right outside my five

[00:18:23] I think she's very underrated

[00:18:25] Everyone is good in certain ways

[00:18:26] That's a fantastic

[00:18:27] Tyree Kim or the Handmaiden

[00:18:29] Very close for me

[00:18:31] My problem with the Handmaiden girls

[00:18:33] Is their sort of fudgy category

[00:18:35] Because each of them kind of has

[00:18:37] One of the three acts to themselves

[00:18:41] So it's just tough

[00:18:42] But they're all good

[00:18:43] I agree

[00:18:44] I nominated neither of them

[00:18:45] Even though both of them just were

[00:18:47] On the outside of respective categories

[00:18:49] Because of that problem

[00:18:50] I think they both got fucked by that

[00:18:52] And I'd say the last one

[00:18:53] Who just missed out for me was

[00:18:56] Was Sarah Giddon for

[00:18:59] Why am I forgetting the title

[00:19:01] Of the fucking movie?

[00:19:02] Indignation

[00:19:03] Thank you

[00:19:04] It was going to say intolerance

[00:19:05] Alright

[00:19:06] Joe do you want to go next?

[00:19:07] Yeah

[00:19:08] So mine are alphabetical order

[00:19:10] Tammy Blanchard in The Invitation

[00:19:12] Oh, Joe

[00:19:13] I know

[00:19:14] Coming right up

[00:19:15] I know I'm coming up with the really obnoxiously

[00:19:17] Like esoteric one

[00:19:18] One that's a real Joe Reed pick

[00:19:19] Two

[00:19:20] She's terrific in the movie

[00:19:21] Yeah, I love her

[00:19:22] And she's terrific actress

[00:19:23] And she's terrific in Tallulah as well

[00:19:25] If anybody saw that movie

[00:19:26] She is good in Tallulah

[00:19:27] Although not

[00:19:28] Given a really impossible character

[00:19:29] Yeah tough character

[00:19:30] Tough movie

[00:19:31] I saw that movie

[00:19:32] Gave it a decent review

[00:19:34] Sat with me strangely

[00:19:35] It's a weird movie

[00:19:36] Jenny is fantastic

[00:19:37] Ellen Page is fantastic

[00:19:38] Ellen Page is fantastic characters

[00:19:39] Yeah

[00:19:40] Obviously Jenny is good

[00:19:41] But like when she bad

[00:19:42] Yeah

[00:19:43] It's an odd movie to consider

[00:19:44] Sort of in the long view

[00:19:45] Tammy Blanchard

[00:19:46] Paulina Garcia in Little Men

[00:19:48] Good one

[00:19:49] Love that movie

[00:19:50] Greta Gerwig in 20th Century Women

[00:19:52] Lily Gladstone in Certain Women

[00:19:54] And Michelle Williams in Manchester by the Sea

[00:19:56] Okay, so we overlap on three

[00:19:58] On two

[00:19:59] Two

[00:20:00] Lily Gladstone and Michelle Williams

[00:20:01] We also Joe overlap on three

[00:20:03] Paulina Garcia in Little Men

[00:20:04] Yeah she's so good

[00:20:05] Get yourself to that movie

[00:20:06] If you haven't seen it

[00:20:07] She is fantastic

[00:20:08] Lily Gladstone in Certain Women

[00:20:10] We've all got her

[00:20:11] I mean that's the best

[00:20:12] Supporting performance of the year for me

[00:20:14] She's so good

[00:20:15] Certainly female

[00:20:16] I guess we announce winners later

[00:20:18] Greta Gerwig in 20th Century Women

[00:20:21] So good

[00:20:22] It's phenomenal better than Elle Fanning

[00:20:23] Sorry Brian

[00:20:24] Taking the wrong performance

[00:20:25] No

[00:20:26] But Elle's pretty good

[00:20:27] Yeah

[00:20:28] I think everybody in that movie is good

[00:20:29] Yeah

[00:20:30] Viola Davis in Fences

[00:20:32] I'm sorry

[00:20:33] It's a supporting performance

[00:20:35] We'll get to this

[00:20:36] It's a supporting performance

[00:20:38] Mary Alice won the Tony

[00:20:40] I know

[00:20:41] For a supporting performance

[00:20:42] Because that's what it is

[00:20:43] Viola won the lead because she's famous

[00:20:45] That's why they put her in lead in the Tony's

[00:20:47] Which is what they always do

[00:20:48] The famous people go in lead

[00:20:50] How famous was she when Fences was on

[00:20:52] She was an Oscar nominee

[00:20:53] She was an Oscar nominee

[00:20:54] She was a two-time Oscar nominee

[00:20:56] Was it after the help?

[00:20:57] I thought it was before the help

[00:20:58] Well it's after doubt

[00:20:59] It was definitely after doubt

[00:21:00] I mean I think it's the same

[00:21:01] Isn't it 2011?

[00:21:02] I think it might be the same year as the help

[00:21:03] I thought it was 20 times

[00:21:04] But I could be totally wrong

[00:21:05] But she's

[00:21:07] I would say she's a

[00:21:08] If you're an Oscar nominee

[00:21:09] In the eyes of the Tony's

[00:21:11] You are famous

[00:21:12] And certainly in the realm of Broadway

[00:21:13] And August Wilson plays

[00:21:15] Viola Davis is incredibly

[00:21:16] Famous and notable

[00:21:18] And it's also one of those things where

[00:21:19] When a play is revived

[00:21:20] If it's that famous

[00:21:22] Suddenly these roles

[00:21:23] Become so titanic

[00:21:25] Like even

[00:21:26] It's a supporting performance

[00:21:27] I think it's a very borderline

[00:21:28] It is borderline

[00:21:29] We can talk about it

[00:21:30] When we talk about lead

[00:21:31] But I think the fact that

[00:21:33] That last 20 minutes or so

[00:21:36] Is her

[00:21:37] Yeah obviously

[00:21:38] She takes over the movie

[00:21:39] But in the same way that Del Toro

[00:21:40] Takes over Sicario

[00:21:41] It's a supporting performance

[00:21:42] You know where it's like

[00:21:43] Suddenly the movie gets handed up

[00:21:45] For most of the movie

[00:21:47] That is the Denzel Washington show

[00:21:49] With a lot of other people around him

[00:21:50] You know as great as Davis is

[00:21:51] For the whole movie obviously

[00:21:53] Yeah well you kind of know

[00:21:54] But you know that transfer

[00:21:55] And anyway

[00:21:56] My fifth nomination is

[00:21:57] Condi Alexander in Patriots Day

[00:21:59] I have not seen Patriots Day

[00:22:01] This is

[00:22:02] A wild pick

[00:22:03] By David Sedge

[00:22:04] Kaboom

[00:22:05] They have

[00:22:06] Condi Alexander

[00:22:07] Uh huh

[00:22:08] The great Condi Alexander

[00:22:09] Love her

[00:22:10] Love her

[00:22:11] Comes into Patriots Day

[00:22:12] Which is a movie that is

[00:22:14] Not that great in my opinion

[00:22:15] And all over the place

[00:22:16] But has some you know

[00:22:17] Has a little mojo

[00:22:18] Weirdly close to being great

[00:22:20] It's like you're right

[00:22:22] But I mean it's

[00:22:23] But the thing is here's the thing

[00:22:24] It's not good at all

[00:22:25] Like if you know

[00:22:26] It's bad but you're right

[00:22:27] Like if you just tip

[00:22:28] Like six or seven things

[00:22:29] Just like five percent over

[00:22:31] Maybe it'd be great

[00:22:32] I don't know if there's a movie

[00:22:33] I've seen that's closer to greatness

[00:22:35] That doesn't achieve

[00:22:36] Really

[00:22:37] In that year

[00:22:38] 2016

[00:22:39] Like wins my award for like

[00:22:41] This is weirdly close to greatness

[00:22:43] For a movie that isn't

[00:22:44] Yeah

[00:22:45] Condi Alexander comes in

[00:22:46] Her character doesn't have a name

[00:22:47] She's just called interrogator

[00:22:48] Yeah

[00:22:49] She comes in

[00:22:50] I'm already in

[00:22:51] I'm already interested

[00:22:52] She's in a hijab

[00:22:53] She's you know in Muslim garb

[00:22:54] And she's interrogating the wife

[00:22:56] Of Sarah Neve played by a super girl

[00:22:59] Melissa Benoist

[00:23:01] Which is not whitewashing

[00:23:03] She is a white suburban woman

[00:23:05] Who converted

[00:23:06] It would be funny if Peter Berg was like

[00:23:07] Too many like

[00:23:08] Let's get a white person playing one of these

[00:23:10] Anyway

[00:23:12] The movie doesn't explain that

[00:23:13] So the whole time you're watching

[00:23:14] And you're like is this wrong

[00:23:15] Right

[00:23:16] You're waiting to go to Wikipedia

[00:23:17] At the end of the movie

[00:23:18] I mean it's because it was so recent

[00:23:19] Because Pinterest is a cover in events

[00:23:21] That happened four years ago

[00:23:22] True, true

[00:23:23] By the way do you know that

[00:23:25] Mark Wahlberg and Peter Berg

[00:23:26] Have a movie coming out

[00:23:27] About this year's Blink Check Award

[00:23:28] They do it's going to be Friday

[00:23:30] Yes, wait is that

[00:23:31] Kandee Alexander is going to play me in Terriander

[00:23:33] That doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence

[00:23:34] For how the rest of this Blankies

[00:23:35] Is going to go

[00:23:36] Hey who knows

[00:23:37] Alright so Kandee comes in

[00:23:39] Interrogates her

[00:23:40] And it's this scene where it's like

[00:23:42] This powder keg scene where she is basically

[00:23:44] Like you're fucked

[00:23:46] Like you are in so much trouble

[00:23:48] We know you knew about this

[00:23:49] We know you're in cahoots

[00:23:51] With your husband and his brother

[00:23:53] And like you know and she's

[00:23:55] She's kind of it's incredible

[00:23:57] She's playing the good cop and the bad cop

[00:23:59] In the same body

[00:24:01] Cause she's literally switching between

[00:24:03] Wait is it a split sequel

[00:24:05] It is a split sequel

[00:24:06] Oh my god

[00:24:07] It's an unbreakable prequel sequel

[00:24:08] No

[00:24:09] She'll switch between like kind of like

[00:24:11] Speaking to her in Arabic

[00:24:13] God

[00:24:14] And you know what I'm talking about

[00:24:16] You've seen the movie

[00:24:17] And like sort of trying to reach her

[00:24:18] As a Muslim woman

[00:24:19] What Muslim woman

[00:24:20] And then kind of like

[00:24:21] Then she's like I want an attorney

[00:24:22] And she's like you ain't getting shit

[00:24:24] You know like being a bad cop

[00:24:26] And then exits the scene

[00:24:28] Pulls off the hijab and is like

[00:24:29] Sorry guys I got nothing

[00:24:30] Like it is an incredible

[00:24:32] And they say could you work for her

[00:24:33] And she goes I can't tell you

[00:24:34] I can't tell you goodbye

[00:24:35] And it's like an incredible like

[00:24:37] It's probably what

[00:24:38] Seven or eight minutes scene

[00:24:40] It's one scene performance

[00:24:41] I couldn't believe it when I was

[00:24:43] Suddenly like electrified by that scene

[00:24:45] Okay

[00:24:46] Can I tell you the one thing about this

[00:24:47] Pick that makes me angry

[00:24:49] I forgot to pick

[00:24:51] Fuck you

[00:24:52] I sat there watching the movie

[00:24:53] And went this is no question

[00:24:55] Of my five nominees and I forgot about it

[00:24:57] Until now

[00:24:58] I don't know who I'd replace her with

[00:24:59] But yeah

[00:25:00] I mean yes

[00:25:01] I fucking hats off to you

[00:25:03] Incredible performance great pick

[00:25:05] Alright

[00:25:06] I feel confident

[00:25:07] But my winner is definitely Lily Gladstone

[00:25:09] We should give her a couple minutes of praise man

[00:25:11] She's so good in that movie

[00:25:13] So I

[00:25:14] But I think she's the only one we all

[00:25:16] Nominate

[00:25:17] She's the only one we all nominated

[00:25:18] Michelle Williams

[00:25:19] No I didn't nominate her

[00:25:20] I think she's great

[00:25:21] Yeah

[00:25:22] It's a good category

[00:25:23] No I think

[00:25:24] Lily Gladstone comes

[00:25:26] She's in the third part of that movie

[00:25:28] And she comes out of nowhere

[00:25:30] And she's the only one of those actresses

[00:25:32] That you've never seen in anything

[00:25:33] Right cause you're going to the third part

[00:25:34] And you're like ah case do

[00:25:35] Like I'm excited for some Kristen Stewart

[00:25:37] Kristen Stewart is good in that

[00:25:38] But she's not the focus

[00:25:39] Right exactly

[00:25:40] You realize quickly

[00:25:41] Oh this isn't actually about her

[00:25:42] And she's playing this woman

[00:25:43] And she doesn't play her as a sad woman

[00:25:45] Even though there's sadness

[00:25:47] So much about her character

[00:25:49] Right right

[00:25:50] More of a person who's kind of

[00:25:51] Like somewhat resigned

[00:25:53] To how her life works

[00:25:55] But is at least tempted by like

[00:25:57] Oh could I like

[00:25:58] And it's so recognizable in her

[00:26:00] That thing where you're used to

[00:26:02] The sort of routines of your life

[00:26:04] And then something walks into your life

[00:26:05] That like gives you this spark

[00:26:07] Of like oh something could be like different

[00:26:09] And she just really comes alive

[00:26:12] Ah that's really really good

[00:26:13] She's a ranch hand

[00:26:14] She's Native American

[00:26:15] The movie set in Montana right

[00:26:16] It's in the northwest

[00:26:19] Lily Gladstone's Native American actress

[00:26:22] I've never heard of her before

[00:26:23] Like I don't know

[00:26:24] It's in things before

[00:26:26] And she's attending these like night

[00:26:28] School classes being taught by Kristen

[00:26:30] Stewart's character and they have this

[00:26:32] Like it's not even a flirtation

[00:26:34] Really but it's some kind of a like connection

[00:26:36] Essentially they start to like get dinner

[00:26:38] Together or whatever

[00:26:39] Cause they're the only two people

[00:26:40] In that room who are incredibly awful

[00:26:42] She's Kristen Stewart

[00:26:43] Teaching these teachers who all they

[00:26:44] Want to know is like

[00:26:46] What is like the legal requirement

[00:26:48] For me to like discipline my students

[00:26:50] It's all like

[00:26:52] It's such a good movie

[00:26:54] You know she's been in a couple things

[00:26:56] Lily Gladstone and she

[00:26:57] I wish her well in the future

[00:26:59] She won a lot of critics awards

[00:27:00] Which is great and like you know

[00:27:02] I'm so happy for her

[00:27:03] I do think though it's important to say that

[00:27:06] This is kind of an hysterian

[00:27:09] Rogers performance

[00:27:10] Like her performance works

[00:27:12] Because of how good Kristen Stewart

[00:27:14] Is as well

[00:27:15] How good the two of them are together

[00:27:16] Like even though Lily Gladstone's

[00:27:18] Like the showy

[00:27:20] You're not wrong

[00:27:21] Right

[00:27:22] But this is why we should give Lily Gladstone awards

[00:27:24] So that she can publicly thank Kristen Stewart

[00:27:26] For being the Fred

[00:27:28] Kristen Stewart was my winner last year

[00:27:29] In supporting actress

[00:27:30] Alright for Clouds of Seals

[00:27:31] Alright so my winner is Lily

[00:27:33] Who's your winner Joe

[00:27:34] With the caveat that

[00:27:35] I would love to give it

[00:27:37] To Tammy Blanchard just so I could

[00:27:39] Evangelize about the invitation more

[00:27:41] Because I think it's such a good movie

[00:27:43] That people didn't really see this year

[00:27:45] It's on Netflix

[00:27:46] My favorite horror movie of the year

[00:27:48] Damn right

[00:27:49] It's so tense

[00:27:50] Probably not mine

[00:27:51] But it might be my number two

[00:27:52] Karen Kusama directed it

[00:27:54] Oh Amber Alert

[00:27:55] I'm sorry

[00:27:56] I'm fucking phone

[00:27:57] I'm sorry I didn't know there was an Amber Alert going on

[00:27:59] Karen Kusama directed the movie

[00:28:02] It's really good

[00:28:03] Go out and see it

[00:28:04] No my winner is Greta Gerwig

[00:28:06] For her 20s

[00:28:07] She's so good

[00:28:08] She's so good

[00:28:09] Wrong performance

[00:28:10] You got a beef with this performance

[00:28:12] Look

[00:28:13] I think Greta Gerwig

[00:28:14] Is incredibly well cast in that movie

[00:28:16] Okay

[00:28:17] Yeah I don't know where this is going

[00:28:19] I think it plays to all of her strengths

[00:28:22] Well first of all

[00:28:24] I think it plays to her strengths

[00:28:26] But I don't necessarily feel like

[00:28:27] In a way that would make me

[00:28:29] Discount performance

[00:28:30] I also think we get stuff from her

[00:28:31] In that performance

[00:28:32] That I don't think I've seen

[00:28:33] From her

[00:28:34] I think there's

[00:28:35] There are all the scenes with her

[00:28:36] Talking to Annette Benning

[00:28:38] About motherhood

[00:28:39] And the one scene where it's

[00:28:41] Great movie by the way

[00:28:42] We can all agree

[00:28:43] I saw it twice

[00:28:44] It's phenomenal

[00:28:45] I think we're going to talk about

[00:28:46] More of that episode

[00:28:47] Wow

[00:28:48] Pretty beautiful

[00:28:49] I don't even know what I'm talking about

[00:28:51] But there's also the scene where

[00:28:53] Annette is saying

[00:28:55] This is

[00:28:56] I don't get to see my

[00:28:57] Sound out in the world

[00:28:58] And you do

[00:28:59] Those two scenes with them together

[00:29:01] Are so fantastic

[00:29:02] Keeping up with Annette Benning

[00:29:04] Is a tough one

[00:29:05] Especially maybe Annette Benning's

[00:29:07] Best performance

[00:29:08] I might say that

[00:29:09] I've got a dynamic

[00:29:11] And a dynamic performance

[00:29:13] That like

[00:29:14] Simmers in your body for

[00:29:16] One weeks

[00:29:17] I just think

[00:29:19] I think Elle Fanning

[00:29:20] I mean look

[00:29:21] Elle Fanning is fine

[00:29:22] In 20th century women

[00:29:23] She is good at playing

[00:29:24] One vibe

[00:29:25] Which is

[00:29:26] The rebellious girl

[00:29:27] Who you know secretly

[00:29:28] Is like not as rebellious

[00:29:29] As she thinks she is

[00:29:30] I think in this movie though

[00:29:31] She's much more of a real

[00:29:32] Girl that you could have

[00:29:33] Known than she is

[00:29:34] In her other role

[00:29:35] Certainly like Neon Demon

[00:29:36] And stuff like that

[00:29:37] Well Neon Demon is

[00:29:38] A fairly broad movie

[00:29:39] There's one good performance

[00:29:40] In Neon Demon

[00:29:41] And it's that cougar

[00:29:42] That breaks into her tell

[00:29:44] Great cougar

[00:29:45] No, that's good

[00:29:46] No, see I think

[00:29:48] In 20th century women

[00:29:50] What Elle Fanning is actually playing

[00:29:51] Is someone who is

[00:29:54] Too smart for her age

[00:29:56] And has to

[00:29:57] Try to dumb herself down

[00:29:59] Which is

[00:30:00] I certainly

[00:30:01] Especially in the 70s

[00:30:02] Or whatever

[00:30:03] Like you know

[00:30:04] The kind of thing that might happen

[00:30:05] To a teenage girl

[00:30:06] Who's rebelling

[00:30:07] Is fighting against

[00:30:09] Her ability to actually

[00:30:10] Over intellectualize everything

[00:30:12] By trying to engage

[00:30:13] In the baser instincts of

[00:30:15] What a quote unquote normal

[00:30:16] Teenage girl should be doing

[00:30:17] You know

[00:30:18] I think the scene where she explains

[00:30:20] Why she sleeps with boys

[00:30:22] Is like

[00:30:23] Great scene

[00:30:24] A fucking master

[00:30:25] I think in her table

[00:30:26] Scenes incredible

[00:30:27] It's so good

[00:30:28] But everyone's good in that scene

[00:30:29] That scene is

[00:30:30] 20th century women's

[00:30:31] Like real cook and gas scene

[00:30:33] And girl is so great

[00:30:34] In that scene

[00:30:35] I feel like

[00:30:36] That's almost a point in my favorite

[00:30:37] Well I think

[00:30:38] Fanning is playing

[00:30:39] Men's trading

[00:30:40] Say it with me

[00:30:41] Say it

[00:30:42] I think fanning's playing someone

[00:30:43] Who wants to be girl with

[00:30:44] Yeah

[00:30:45] And doesn't know who she's going to be

[00:30:47] It is sort of hostile to her

[00:30:48] Because of that

[00:30:49] Which I also like

[00:30:50] The dynamic between those two

[00:30:51] One of the things about 20th century women

[00:30:52] That's amazing is that

[00:30:53] Everyone in that character

[00:30:54] In that movie is a type

[00:30:55] Yeah

[00:30:56] And then obviously

[00:30:57] The performances are

[00:30:58] Not like a type

[00:30:59] Right

[00:31:00] Yeah

[00:31:01] Alright, who's your winner

[00:31:02] My winner is

[00:31:03] With a bullet

[00:31:05] Kate McKinnon and Ghostbusters

[00:31:06] Alright

[00:31:07] I need to see Ghostbusters again

[00:31:09] Yeah, I think I'd probably

[00:31:10] I saw it once

[00:31:11] I had a great time

[00:31:12] And I loved Kate McKinnon

[00:31:13] But I will admit

[00:31:14] I don't remember a goddamn thing about it

[00:31:16] I remember her dancing to

[00:31:17] A Dabarge

[00:31:18] I remember

[00:31:19] Sure

[00:31:20] Yeah

[00:31:21] I mean

[00:31:22] She's great

[00:31:23] You've seen it three times?

[00:31:24] I've seen it three times

[00:31:25] I like

[00:31:26] I like Ghostbusters a lot

[00:31:27] Right, like I like Ghostbusters

[00:31:28] As a fucking war

[00:31:29] Would you say the

[00:31:30] Busting makes you feel good

[00:31:31] Oh God

[00:31:32] No I wouldn't

[00:31:33] I would say the

[00:31:34] Busting makes me feel great

[00:31:35] That would be my pull quote

[00:31:37] On the post

[00:31:38] This busting makes me feel great

[00:31:40] Boy oh boy

[00:31:41] I have problems with

[00:31:42] The recent Ghostbusters movie

[00:31:44] They're the same problems that

[00:31:45] Everyone I feel has

[00:31:47] Why are they women

[00:31:48] Sure

[00:31:49] It's really

[00:31:50] It actually sticks in my craw

[00:31:51] When I make that joke

[00:31:52] No no no

[00:31:53] When they're women

[00:31:54] Oh yes

[00:31:55] No no no

[00:31:56] I don't like

[00:31:57] The amount of fucking

[00:31:58] Fan service callbacks

[00:31:59] Of the original

[00:32:01] I feel like

[00:32:02] In the final cut

[00:32:03] They made a choice

[00:32:05] To focus on jokes rather than

[00:32:07] Story and their like

[00:32:08] Character beats that don't

[00:32:09] Fucking work in the movie

[00:32:10] Because they clearly cut out plot lines

[00:32:11] This is why I need to see it again

[00:32:12] Because yeah I don't

[00:32:13] Like that's the shit I don't

[00:32:14] Remember

[00:32:15] There's shit in the movie that hurts

[00:32:17] It's overwhelmed by how much

[00:32:18] I think the movie does

[00:32:19] Right

[00:32:20] And I just like fucking Ghostbusters

[00:32:21] I like the world of Ghostbusters

[00:32:22] I also think the movie looks good

[00:32:23] I like the look of the movie

[00:32:24] I like the look of the ghosts

[00:32:25] I like this sort of quasi-cartoony

[00:32:27] I like all that

[00:32:28] I like that it sort of feels

[00:32:29] More like an adaptation

[00:32:30] Of the Ghostbusters cartoon

[00:32:31] Show

[00:32:32] Yes

[00:32:33] That's actually a good point

[00:32:34] With the neon greens and such

[00:32:35] Yeah

[00:32:36] I'm not going to comment on that

[00:32:37] And even the aesthetics and all

[00:32:38] I like all that

[00:32:39] Right

[00:32:40] But I think for me

[00:32:41] The one element that pushes

[00:32:42] The movie over the top

[00:32:43] Is McKinnon

[00:32:44] Who is doing

[00:32:45] Who's terrific

[00:32:46] Is doing something that I think

[00:32:47] You know

[00:32:48] Is not in the original movies

[00:32:49] Absolutely not

[00:32:50] Where you can't go like

[00:32:51] Oh she's Egon

[00:32:52] Well really

[00:32:53] Yeah

[00:32:54] There's no real log

[00:32:55] And the thing I think

[00:32:56] What she's doing is

[00:32:57] Closest too

[00:32:58] Is not in terms of

[00:32:59] That specific performance

[00:33:00] But how Bill Murray was functioning

[00:33:02] In the 80s

[00:33:03] Where he was

[00:33:04] The funniest guy in the movie

[00:33:05] But it felt like he was kind of

[00:33:06] Taking one step outside of the movie

[00:33:08] Yeah

[00:33:09] Like bugged Bunny

[00:33:10] And winking at the audience

[00:33:11] Oh yeah

[00:33:12] I mean the movie

[00:33:13] How much shit can I fuck up

[00:33:14] Right

[00:33:15] There was always a sense

[00:33:16] Of her in that movie

[00:33:17] Just being like

[00:33:18] Can you believe what's going on here

[00:33:19] Right

[00:33:20] Which I love

[00:33:21] And it's very hard to do that

[00:33:22] And not destroy the reality

[00:33:23] Of the film

[00:33:24] To be that funny

[00:33:25] Yeah

[00:33:26] And that self-aware

[00:33:28] And not have it be at the expense

[00:33:29] Of everything else

[00:33:30] That's happening

[00:33:32] You know the other thing

[00:33:33] About Kate McKinnon

[00:33:34] She was on a mod team

[00:33:35] She was on a mod team

[00:33:36] That's really important

[00:33:37] But never on a Lloyd team

[00:33:38] Right

[00:33:39] Never on a Lloyd team

[00:33:40] She wasn't really an improvising

[00:33:42] But yeah

[00:33:43] I think Kate McKinnon is like

[00:33:44] One of the fucking best

[00:33:45] She's a star

[00:33:46] Community actress ever

[00:33:48] Okay

[00:33:49] Chill out

[00:33:50] But she is a star

[00:33:51] Yeah

[00:33:52] And certainly this is like

[00:33:53] Her big like

[00:33:54] Ascension year

[00:33:55] She won the Emmy

[00:33:56] And she won the election

[00:33:57] Like stuff on us

[00:33:58] And she's also incredibly good

[00:34:00] In the otherwise

[00:34:01] Completely forgettable

[00:34:02] Off-Cast Christmas party

[00:34:04] I haven't seen it

[00:34:05] She's weirdly good

[00:34:06] I saw like 120 movies from last year

[00:34:08] But that was not one of them

[00:34:10] I almost saw that movie

[00:34:11] Like four different times

[00:34:12] When I was going to see a movie

[00:34:13] I'm like

[00:34:14] I just want to see something

[00:34:15] And it was like right there

[00:34:16] And then I picked something

[00:34:17] Not really worth seeing

[00:34:18] Other than her performance

[00:34:19] Sure

[00:34:20] The award is somewhat

[00:34:21] Of a coronation

[00:34:22] Like here you go

[00:34:23] Have a great 2016

[00:34:24] Sure

[00:34:25] You had one

[00:34:26] Whatever

[00:34:27] I can't speak this episode

[00:34:28] Alright we're going to move on

[00:34:29] I get my word to Kate McKenna

[00:34:30] Okay supporting actor

[00:34:34] I'll go first

[00:34:35] Right, why don't we

[00:34:36] Yeah, why don't you

[00:34:37] So Kristen Stewart is presenting

[00:34:38] Yes

[00:34:41] I love how nobody cared

[00:34:42] That she said fuck by the way

[00:34:43] No

[00:34:44] I was right

[00:34:45] I knew there would be no reaction

[00:34:46] Shouldn't care

[00:34:47] No, there were too many other good things

[00:34:48] To talk about

[00:34:49] Jenny Slate was the last

[00:34:50] That's the last time anyone's going to care

[00:34:51] And it was more because

[00:34:52] We felt bad for Jenny Slate

[00:34:53] Because it was like

[00:34:54] Ah like her first day at work

[00:34:55] You know that kind of thing

[00:34:56] Well and it was

[00:34:57] You could totally see where

[00:34:58] That moment went south

[00:34:59] And it was just sort of like

[00:35:00] Yeah, anyway

[00:35:01] This is not the Jenny Slate Oscar

[00:35:02] My best supporting actor nominees

[00:35:05] Mahershala Ali for Moonlight

[00:35:07] Here we go

[00:35:08] Billy Crudup for 20th Century

[00:35:10] Oh I love that pick

[00:35:12] Ray Fines for a bigger splash

[00:35:13] I love that pick

[00:35:14] I know Griffin and I are going to

[00:35:15] Fight about that

[00:35:16] Shia LeBuff in American Honey

[00:35:18] Love that pick

[00:35:19] And Daniel Radcliffe in

[00:35:20] Swiss Army Man

[00:35:22] Those are my picks

[00:35:23] David, these are really good picks

[00:35:24] Thank you

[00:35:25] Tough category

[00:35:26] Very tough category

[00:35:27] A lot of good people on the cut room floor

[00:35:29] Two of yours are in My Runners Up

[00:35:31] Ray Fines and Mahershala Ali

[00:35:33] Are both in My Runners Up

[00:35:34] Interesting

[00:35:35] Only got jacked

[00:35:37] Reading Rangio

[00:35:38] What are your

[00:35:39] Boy

[00:35:40] Reading Rangio

[00:35:42] Tom Bennett in Love and Friendship

[00:35:44] Who's fantastic

[00:35:45] Who's so funny

[00:35:46] Alden Ehrenreich in Hell Caesar

[00:35:48] Who's fantastic

[00:35:49] One of my favorite performances

[00:35:50] In like years

[00:35:52] He's so good

[00:35:53] He's so good

[00:35:54] Lucas Hedges in Manchester by the Sea

[00:35:56] Oscar nominee

[00:35:57] Andre Holland in Moonlight

[00:35:59] So hot

[00:36:00] So hot

[00:36:01] So fucking hot

[00:36:02] I just saw Jimmy

[00:36:03] And I was in the

[00:36:04] I had those front row seats

[00:36:05] Like literally like

[00:36:06] The slush sound

[00:36:07] Yeah and boy

[00:36:08] You know August Wilson plays

[00:36:09] There's a lot of spitting

[00:36:10] Yeah

[00:36:11] He's so hot

[00:36:12] Yeah

[00:36:13] And he's very good

[00:36:14] And Daniel Radcliffe in

[00:36:15] Swiss Army Man

[00:36:16] Fucking great performance

[00:36:17] So good

[00:36:18] Okay this is the one

[00:36:19] This is the category that

[00:36:20] Pains me the most

[00:36:21] Yeah

[00:36:22] And you know what

[00:36:23] I would say most years

[00:36:24] This is the category that

[00:36:25] Pains me the most

[00:36:26] See and that's

[00:36:27] Usually I struggle between

[00:36:28] This and Actress

[00:36:29] Like usually those are the ones

[00:36:30] Where I'm like

[00:36:31] Ah there's like ten I like

[00:36:32] You know

[00:36:33] Actress

[00:36:34] Oh I'm sorry

[00:36:35] Actress is the one I

[00:36:36] Painted in the most

[00:36:37] Actress is the nightmare

[00:36:38] Actress is the nightmare this year

[00:36:39] There are two guys

[00:36:40] Who are like

[00:36:41] My six and seven this year

[00:36:42] Really really

[00:36:43] We can shout out some

[00:36:44] Runners

[00:36:45] Yeah yeah

[00:36:46] Okay my nominees are

[00:36:47] Alden Ehrenreich

[00:36:48] For health reasons

[00:36:49] This is great

[00:36:50] I'm almost mad that he's not

[00:36:51] In mind but whatever

[00:36:52] Mahershala Ali

[00:36:53] For moonlight

[00:36:54] Fantastic

[00:36:55] Yep

[00:36:56] And then three that

[00:36:57] Have not been mentioned

[00:36:58] Michael Barbieri

[00:36:59] For little men

[00:37:00] So good

[00:37:01] Tracy Letts for indignation

[00:37:03] Holy shit I was just

[00:37:04] Gonna mention him in my

[00:37:05] Runners up

[00:37:06] He's so fucking good

[00:37:07] Tracy Letts is a boss bitch

[00:37:09] And Ashton Sanders

[00:37:11] For moonlight

[00:37:12] Alright so here's where

[00:37:13] My sort of

[00:37:14] Extreme dorkiness comes in

[00:37:16] When I made my whole list

[00:37:17] I have a category for

[00:37:18] Breakthrough actor and

[00:37:19] Breakthrough actress

[00:37:20] Sure

[00:37:21] So both Michael Barbieri

[00:37:22] And Ashton

[00:37:23] Ashton Sanders who is

[00:37:24] The middle

[00:37:25] The middle

[00:37:26] The middle shiron

[00:37:27] He is

[00:37:28] Yeah just shiron

[00:37:29] I believe

[00:37:30] Yes

[00:37:31] That section is called

[00:37:32] Yeah yeah

[00:37:33] Who's great

[00:37:34] Everyone in moonlight

[00:37:35] Is great

[00:37:36] It is very annoying

[00:37:37] That they are all supporting

[00:37:38] Actors essentially

[00:37:39] Yes

[00:37:40] Well you know it's very

[00:37:41] Hard to find

[00:37:42] A way to highlight

[00:37:43] All of them

[00:37:44] Without like giving

[00:37:45] Some special award

[00:37:46] Kind of movie that

[00:37:47] Ensemble Awards exist for

[00:37:48] Which is why

[00:37:49] Saga gave their Ensemble to

[00:37:50] Hidden figures

[00:37:51] Yeah which had

[00:37:52] So

[00:37:53] Everyone in was fine

[00:37:55] Yeah

[00:37:56] Find a good

[00:37:57] That's a good movie with

[00:37:58] Really good actors

[00:37:59] Everyone is fine to good

[00:38:00] If you make an ensemble category

[00:38:01] It's to give a movie

[00:38:02] Like a movie

[00:38:03] Yeah but Jim Parsons

[00:38:04] Really needed that 8th SAG

[00:38:06] How many fucking Zags

[00:38:08] Eating that guy has

[00:38:09] He's the saggiest actor

[00:38:10] Alive

[00:38:11] Oh my god

[00:38:12] Except for everyone on

[00:38:13] Downton Abbey who have

[00:38:14] That is true

[00:38:15] The sag's not made

[00:38:16] Downton Abbey and I was like

[00:38:17] I swear to god isn't

[00:38:18] Downton Abbey been off the air

[00:38:19] For like 4 years at this point

[00:38:20] I honestly almost thought

[00:38:21] They would win again

[00:38:22] For this last year

[00:38:23] Because like

[00:38:24] Oh my lord

[00:38:25] Downton Abbey is the large

[00:38:26] Marge of the sagglers

[00:38:27] Downton Abbey

[00:38:28] Alright

[00:38:29] Downton Abbey has

[00:38:30] An aired since 2014

[00:38:32] Mahershala Ali

[00:38:33] Who I

[00:38:34] Hope wins the Oscar

[00:38:35] I do too

[00:38:36] It's just one of those

[00:38:37] Performances where

[00:38:38] Right it's kind of

[00:38:39] Like Manet but even bigger

[00:38:40] Where it's like when

[00:38:41] He's not on screen

[00:38:42] You miss him

[00:38:43] Yeah

[00:38:44] Like you feel his

[00:38:45] The loss of him

[00:38:46] As much as you feel him

[00:38:47] On screen

[00:38:48] Which works to the movie's advantage

[00:38:49] Of course

[00:38:50] Like there's so much humanity

[00:38:52] In like just

[00:38:54] Him looking at someone

[00:38:55] Like you know

[00:38:56] Yes

[00:38:57] He communicates like

[00:38:58] Everything you need to know

[00:38:59] Which is crucial

[00:39:00] Because there is not much time

[00:39:01] In this movie

[00:39:02] To communicate shit

[00:39:03] Cause every little mini movie

[00:39:05] In it

[00:39:06] Yeah

[00:39:07] Is a whole story

[00:39:08] Look at his face

[00:39:09] When little

[00:39:11] Asks him

[00:39:12] You deal drugs

[00:39:13] It's terrible

[00:39:14] But even earlier

[00:39:15] So good

[00:39:16] When he is kind of

[00:39:18] Trying to be tough on little

[00:39:19] And takes his fries away

[00:39:20] Or whatever

[00:39:21] Or mac and cheese

[00:39:22] I can't

[00:39:23] He's eating something

[00:39:24] Yeah, yeah

[00:39:25] Little sort of looks right down

[00:39:26] And he just looks right down

[00:39:27] And he realizes like

[00:39:28] You just see Mahershala Ali

[00:39:29] With no like dialogue

[00:39:30] Just gets like

[00:39:31] I can't do this

[00:39:32] With this kid

[00:39:33] It's not gonna work

[00:39:34] Right

[00:39:35] A different thing's gonna

[00:39:36] Work with this kid

[00:39:37] Right

[00:39:38] Right

[00:39:39] Right

[00:39:40] Right

[00:39:41] Also like

[00:39:42] Like a latchkey gay kid

[00:39:43] Under his wing

[00:39:44] It sounds like

[00:39:45] A fucking awful, awful TV movie

[00:39:47] Right

[00:39:48] Right

[00:39:49] Specifically

[00:39:50] I mean when you look at that character

[00:39:51] I think the power of Moonlight

[00:39:52] Comes in the fact that

[00:39:53] Every single character

[00:39:54] In the film

[00:39:55] Could be a stock cliched character

[00:39:57] In a shittier film

[00:39:58] Yeah

[00:39:59] And this movie treats

[00:40:00] All of them like real human beings

[00:40:01] Yeah

[00:40:02] You know with real

[00:40:03] Sensitive thoughtful

[00:40:04] Performances

[00:40:05] Yep

[00:40:06] And he's like

[00:40:07] The most emblematic of that

[00:40:09] And it is this performance

[00:40:10] Where it has these big gestures

[00:40:11] You know that feel like

[00:40:13] In a shittier movie

[00:40:14] Would be these big triumphant

[00:40:15] Like heartwarming moments

[00:40:16] Yeah

[00:40:17] But it is such a behavioral performance

[00:40:19] He doesn't overplay anything

[00:40:20] Well this thing is

[00:40:21] He shifts from being

[00:40:22] A drug dealer to a mentor

[00:40:24] In ways that don't feel big

[00:40:26] Like he doesn't have to feel

[00:40:27] Like he has to play

[00:40:28] Either side of that equation

[00:40:30] Big enough for the audience

[00:40:32] To get it

[00:40:33] Like he's very like within himself

[00:40:35] And my brother James

[00:40:36] He said

[00:40:37] My favorite thing anyone said

[00:40:38] About this performance

[00:40:39] He said that guy's face is amazing

[00:40:40] It's like he's got six faces

[00:40:42] Well said James

[00:40:44] And you talk about the shifts

[00:40:45] It is that thing where

[00:40:46] Like yes he's got this amazing face

[00:40:47] And he's got a lot of face

[00:40:48] Yeah

[00:40:49] But it also is the shifts from

[00:40:50] When he goes from high status

[00:40:51] To low status to insecure

[00:40:53] Comfortable to comforting

[00:40:55] It's incredible

[00:40:57] Okay so some other shared nominees

[00:40:58] Alden Ehrenreich

[00:40:59] You guys both had

[00:41:00] I basically you know

[00:41:02] I'd have him too

[00:41:03] Like right I mean

[00:41:04] That was sort of like

[00:41:05] With me and Maharshala

[00:41:06] He might not run around

[00:41:07] But like come on

[00:41:08] Yeah oh my god

[00:41:09] So like I'm still very conflicted

[00:41:11] About how whether I feel good

[00:41:13] About him getting Han Solo

[00:41:14] Because I don't want him to

[00:41:16] Have to shoulder that

[00:41:18] Burden for the rest of his career

[00:41:20] The burden of the young actor

[00:41:21] Right now you know

[00:41:22] It's like great

[00:41:23] Oh you were good in one movie

[00:41:24] Can you carry a franchise

[00:41:25] Can you step into the roles

[00:41:26] Of one of the most iconic

[00:41:27] Fictional characters

[00:41:28] And all of movies

[00:41:29] You get cast as Arthur and the Tick

[00:41:31] Well I wouldn't ever be able

[00:41:32] To listen to your podcast objectively

[00:41:33] Exactly what I'm talking about Griffin

[00:41:34] Exactly

[00:41:35] Exactly same thing

[00:41:37] I don't know how I feel about him

[00:41:39] I feel good for the Han Solo movie

[00:41:41] Yes

[00:41:42] Like I think it's a big boom to that movie

[00:41:44] But how about his performance in Hail Caesar

[00:41:46] Unbelievable

[00:41:47] I was just rewatching Hail Caesar

[00:41:49] Which is a fantastic movie

[00:41:51] It's a fantastic movie

[00:41:52] It's weirdly for a Cohen brothers movie

[00:41:55] And the Cohen's tend to be

[00:41:57] People who everything they do

[00:41:59] Is considered for things like awards

[00:42:02] And top tell us and whatever

[00:42:03] Somehow this was the underrated one

[00:42:05] Partly because I think it came out in February

[00:42:07] I think that's part of it

[00:42:08] And so it got tagged with minor Cohen's

[00:42:09] I think some people didn't know what to do with it

[00:42:11] Were they like am I watching a broad comedy here

[00:42:13] It's a tweener

[00:42:14] But like his stuff is so good

[00:42:17] Both in it's screamingly funny

[00:42:19] Like from minute one when he rides up on that horse

[00:42:21] Just the way he has his posture is funny

[00:42:23] Like his like

[00:42:24] The way he delivers lines is funny

[00:42:26] That scene with Ray Fiennes is

[00:42:27] God damn miracle

[00:42:29] I mean it's hard to overrate that one

[00:42:31] But god that scene with what's the

[00:42:34] Who's the actress who plays his

[00:42:36] Where they just start singing

[00:42:38] At the god damn dinner table

[00:42:41] With no explanation

[00:42:43] And like it's not a dress

[00:42:44] That whole date is so good

[00:42:45] And even before that date

[00:42:46] It's so fucking charming

[00:42:47] You can't believe it

[00:42:48] Where he's like idly lassoing

[00:42:49] Waiting for her

[00:42:50] Is so charming

[00:42:51] He's so fucking funny

[00:42:52] But also that scene where he's like

[00:42:54] Where Josh Brolin lays it out for him

[00:42:56] Like Eddie Manix

[00:42:57] He's like

[00:42:59] We're gonna deal with this

[00:43:00] How many is that

[00:43:01] I thought so

[00:43:02] Like he's so funny

[00:43:04] Yeah and it gives me a great excuse to bring up

[00:43:06] How much I loved him in beautiful creatures

[00:43:08] Which I will ride for until the day I die

[00:43:10] That movie was underrated

[00:43:12] It's often an unfair setup

[00:43:15] But

[00:43:17] It's so difficult in a movie

[00:43:19] That's about how incredible you are

[00:43:22] Yes

[00:43:23] Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:43:24] I'm phrasing this poorly

[00:43:25] But a movie where everyone's like

[00:43:26] This is the next great star

[00:43:27] Yeah

[00:43:28] To introduce someone and have them

[00:43:29] Fulfill the way all the other characters

[00:43:31] Speak of them

[00:43:32] Yeah

[00:43:33] And especially because what they speak of

[00:43:34] So highly is just an effable quality

[00:43:37] Yeah

[00:43:38] It's not like a real discernible thing

[00:43:40] Right

[00:43:41] It's star power

[00:43:42] And there is an excitement

[00:43:44] That boosts this performance to watching

[00:43:46] A star is born narrative

[00:43:48] Containing a star is born performance

[00:43:51] You know

[00:43:52] Remember when that trailer came out

[00:43:54] And it was like everybody was listed

[00:43:55] Alphabetically

[00:43:56] And he was like second

[00:43:57] Because his name's Aaron Reich

[00:43:58] And people were just like who the fuck is this guy?

[00:44:00] Me and Esther from a guest had just had a conversation

[00:44:03] Where it's like

[00:44:04] What's up with that guy from Beautiful Creatures

[00:44:06] Like you know everyone said he was going to break out

[00:44:08] And she was like well he's in Hell Caesar

[00:44:09] And rules don't apply this year

[00:44:10] Like maybe this is the year

[00:44:11] We had that conversation at your birthday party

[00:44:14] That's right

[00:44:15] Yeah

[00:44:16] I remember the vivid

[00:44:17] I will speak to some personal bias here

[00:44:21] Which is I used to be fairly friendly

[00:44:23] With him

[00:44:25] We used to take acting classes together

[00:44:27] And I remember him being the guy where I'd be like

[00:44:30] Jesus Christ if this guy can't make it

[00:44:32] I got no fucking chance

[00:44:33] You know it was one of those things where I'd see him

[00:44:35] Constantly get really close to big things

[00:44:37] And it was like this is so obvious

[00:44:39] This guy so obviously has

[00:44:41] He's such a star

[00:44:42] It's not happening

[00:44:44] So it was frustrating for years and years to see him

[00:44:47] Be good in things that didn't get seen

[00:44:49] All those Coppola movies

[00:44:51] Right

[00:44:52] And so yeah there was something

[00:44:54] Especially satisfying seeing him in theater

[00:44:56] And being like totally figured out

[00:44:58] Exactly how to use him

[00:44:59] I hate to be the guy who

[00:45:00] No no

[00:45:01] Tracy Letts kind of

[00:45:02] It's most supporting actor

[00:45:03] I mean he's got this 20 minute scene

[00:45:05] I will also say

[00:45:06] Tracy Letts and Christine is also phenomenally good

[00:45:10] He's great

[00:45:11] He plays

[00:45:12] He plays her boss

[00:45:13] I don't like to watch movies about people who kill themselves

[00:45:15] Listen

[00:45:16] I don't blame you

[00:45:17] It's really good

[00:45:18] It's looking if a movie

[00:45:19] If it's a movie where someone kills himself

[00:45:21] But this is a movie about a suicide

[00:45:23] That's why I've avoided Alvin and the Chipmunks

[00:45:25] Chipmunks

[00:45:27] Poor Dave Seville

[00:45:29] Yeah he's phenomenal and Christine though

[00:45:31] Also I will say

[00:45:32] Yeah Indignation is this 20 minute confrontation scene

[00:45:34] The big scene

[00:45:35] Right that's

[00:45:36] I mean it's just incredible

[00:45:37] And it's like well that's what a real actor can do

[00:45:39] He is a real actor

[00:45:40] Ashton Sanders for me

[00:45:41] It's like all three

[00:45:43] Chiron's are incredible in that movie

[00:45:44] I think he's actually got

[00:45:46] The most difficult scenes to carry

[00:45:47] And he's gotta be the bridge between the two

[00:45:49] That connects the first one

[00:45:50] The way that kid just stands in that movie

[00:45:52] With the way the world on his shoulders

[00:45:54] Makes her heart it really does

[00:45:56] Everyone

[00:45:57] Well we already talked about that

[00:45:58] Everyone's good

[00:45:59] And then Michael Barbieri

[00:46:00] It's just like

[00:46:01] Well he's also got one scene

[00:46:03] That is so phenomenal

[00:46:04] That acting class scene

[00:46:05] Right it's phenomenal

[00:46:06] But I mean there's lots of good scenes

[00:46:07] It's a fun performance

[00:46:08] It's like it's fun to watch this kid

[00:46:09] Who is so genuine

[00:46:10] He's a little wise ass

[00:46:11] But then yeah the scene where

[00:46:13] You're watching the movie

[00:46:14] You go like maybe they just found this kid

[00:46:15] And this kid's just comfortable being himself

[00:46:16] You start to underrate him as an actor

[00:46:18] And then the acting class scene

[00:46:19] Where he has to act

[00:46:20] Yeah

[00:46:21] Shows that like

[00:46:22] Even if it's beginner's luck

[00:46:23] A thing

[00:46:24] I didn't talk about Perlina Garcia

[00:46:25] And Littleman at all

[00:46:26] But she's also incredible

[00:46:27] That's an amazing quote

[00:46:28] But yeah

[00:46:29] And go back

[00:46:30] See Littleman and then go back

[00:46:31] And see Perlina Garcia and Gloria

[00:46:33] In that Chilean movie Gloria

[00:46:35] That she made a few years ago

[00:46:36] I did not see

[00:46:37] Which was I think she won

[00:46:38] The Berlin Film Festival Award

[00:46:40] For Best Actress in that

[00:46:41] That movie is one of the best

[00:46:43] Endings to a movie I've ever seen

[00:46:45] In my life

[00:46:46] It's such a joyous ending

[00:46:47] It's so good

[00:46:48] Any other nominees

[00:46:49] You guys want to talk about

[00:46:50] Yeah man

[00:46:51] Fucking tons of nominees

[00:46:52] Let me go ahead Joe

[00:46:53] John Goodman and 10 Cloverfield Lane

[00:46:55] So good

[00:46:56] So good

[00:46:57] But wait we haven't even talked about

[00:46:58] Your actual nominees

[00:46:59] Oh did not

[00:47:00] I don't know

[00:47:01] Are there any that you

[00:47:02] We talked about Aaron Reich

[00:47:03] We talked about Daniel Radcliffe

[00:47:04] Cause he's on both of ours

[00:47:05] That kid

[00:47:06] It's

[00:47:07] I love Daniel Radcliffe now

[00:47:09] Which honestly if you told

[00:47:11] Like me watching the early Harry Potter movies

[00:47:13] Like you're gonna grow up

[00:47:14] And love this actor

[00:47:15] What an interesting career

[00:47:16] He's got right now

[00:47:17] Like

[00:47:18] It is

[00:47:19] Yeah he's had an interesting career

[00:47:21] I appreciate that he

[00:47:22] Funny in that role

[00:47:23] It's the funniest like physical performance

[00:47:25] Since Vincentino Friot and Men in Black

[00:47:27] That's a good one

[00:47:29] The greatest

[00:47:30] The last great like sort of animated

[00:47:33] Dead body performance

[00:47:35] It's that movie

[00:47:37] Terry Kaiser and Weekend at Bernie's

[00:47:39] How dare you

[00:47:40] Well that's previous to Vincentino

[00:47:43] I don't honestly I don't like

[00:47:45] That movie very much

[00:47:46] I don't either

[00:47:47] When I saw it I had a good time

[00:47:49] I think it's a great movie

[00:47:50] It's great to a lot better than I expected to

[00:47:53] Yeah

[00:47:54] And I thought that it was

[00:47:56] You know it was a cool calling card movie

[00:47:58] I liked how it looked

[00:47:59] You know blah blah blah blah

[00:48:00] Yeah

[00:48:01] The end sat very badly with me

[00:48:03] And I just

[00:48:04] I have not thought of it very well

[00:48:06] It's a real rough ending

[00:48:07] And it kind of is sort of stuck in

[00:48:10] Like a sort of Sundance movie

[00:48:12] Story trope from like

[00:48:14] I feel like from like a decade ago

[00:48:15] Come on like you know

[00:48:16] Enough with the jerk off guys

[00:48:17] Who don't know how to talk to a girl

[00:48:18] Right

[00:48:19] But Radcliffe is like basically

[00:48:21] Like the spirit of the side of your brain

[00:48:23] That's just like

[00:48:24] What's wrong with getting a boner

[00:48:26] Or like you know like

[00:48:27] Being interested in something

[00:48:29] Like is perfect

[00:48:30] He's perfect

[00:48:31] It's so much fun

[00:48:33] It's such a like

[00:48:34] I mean you said it all really

[00:48:36] Also the one Moonlight actor

[00:48:38] We haven't really talked about this

[00:48:39] On my list is Andre Holland

[00:48:41] And

[00:48:42] But Trevante Rhodes too

[00:48:43] Let's see all of them

[00:48:44] We'll talk about Trevante Rhodes later maybe

[00:48:47] Oh

[00:48:48] Andre Holland gets such an interesting

[00:48:51] Task to play in that movie

[00:48:53] Because the last thing you saw of that character

[00:48:56] Kevin's kind of a dick

[00:48:57] I was really mad at Kevin

[00:48:58] At the end of that second segment

[00:49:00] And like

[00:49:01] But Andre Holland wins you over so quickly

[00:49:04] And like you said it's the sexiest performance

[00:49:06] He makes this plate of black beans and rice

[00:49:08] Like

[00:49:09] Give me that

[00:49:10] Honestly give me everything

[00:49:12] Like the scene of him

[00:49:13] I wrote about the

[00:49:14] At the end of the year

[00:49:15] What a great year it was for smoking in movies

[00:49:17] And like that scene of him leaning up against the wall

[00:49:20] And just sort of blowing smoke into the camera

[00:49:22] To have

[00:49:23] That is star power too

[00:49:24] To see if you can write the Aldenair and the right thing

[00:49:26] Gryffin and I were talking about it

[00:49:27] To have a scene where you see it

[00:49:28] You're like that's a gift

[00:49:29] Yeah

[00:49:30] And nonetheless you're like

[00:49:31] I love this

[00:49:32] And I'm writing this movie

[00:49:33] My argument was that

[00:49:35] That movie is almost entirely composed of gifts

[00:49:38] Like every single moment of that film

[00:49:40] Is so cinematic and self contained

[00:49:41] The fact that it works as a greater whole

[00:49:43] Is like a miracle

[00:49:44] Yeah

[00:49:45] And speaking of my favorite gift in the movie

[00:49:46] What I think is Andrei Halin's sexiest moment in the film

[00:49:48] Is the neck rub

[00:49:50] When he puts the song on the jukebox

[00:49:52] And he turns around

[00:49:53] He very subtly rubs his own neck

[00:49:54] He's a fantastic

[00:49:55] I was literally

[00:49:56] Watching it last night

[00:49:57] I think I gasped at that

[00:49:58] I was just like

[00:49:59] It's unbelievable

[00:50:00] Yeah

[00:50:01] That dude rules

[00:50:02] Anyone else you got Joe?

[00:50:03] Lucas Hedges

[00:50:04] He's great

[00:50:05] We've talked about a lot

[00:50:06] He's an Oscar nominee

[00:50:07] The male down scene is terrific

[00:50:08] The panic attack scene

[00:50:10] And I think part of it is the writing

[00:50:11] Because I think that's a kid who we've seen

[00:50:13] In a lot of movies

[00:50:15] Be a lot different

[00:50:17] In the nuances of that kid

[00:50:19] I was so expecting this rebellious, shitty, pouty, moody kid

[00:50:24] And he's got some of that in him

[00:50:26] But he's also just like

[00:50:29] A regular

[00:50:30] He felt so real to me

[00:50:31] He felt very

[00:50:32] And I know that's sort of a trap

[00:50:34] That sometimes we fall into as critics of movies

[00:50:37] Is that like

[00:50:38] Oh this felt very real

[00:50:39] So that's gotta be good

[00:50:40] But like there were ways that he was

[00:50:43] Where he was sort of like bravado

[00:50:45] But that would sort of melt away

[00:50:47] And he would allow himself to have these like

[00:50:49] Real conversations

[00:50:50] And he would actually like tell Casey Affleck's character

[00:50:52] Like what do you want out of things

[00:50:54] And he's so wonderful

[00:50:57] No one writes teenagers better than Kenneth Lonergan

[00:51:00] Yeah

[00:51:01] He's the fucking best as good as anyone ever

[00:51:03] At writing teenagers

[00:51:04] And I think he understands fundamentally

[00:51:06] That all teenagers are performing

[00:51:08] Yeah

[00:51:09] And he's the key

[00:51:10] And I like how fucking funny that character is

[00:51:12] How much people talk about Manchester being

[00:51:14] A supremely depressing movie

[00:51:15] Which it is

[00:51:16] This is my very funny

[00:51:17] It's got more laughs than most comedies

[00:51:19] That's why I sort of bristle when people would be like

[00:51:21] See that movie but man

[00:51:22] Like you're gonna be wrecked

[00:51:23] It's like

[00:51:24] Shit turned a great laugh

[00:51:25] Half the movie's a kid trying to get laid

[00:51:26] Yeah

[00:51:27] That scene where he

[00:51:28] It's in the trailer

[00:51:29] He goes I'm working on it

[00:51:30] It means I'm working on it

[00:51:31] It's that trick

[00:51:32] Funny

[00:51:33] I want to shout out Mr. Billy Crudup

[00:51:36] In 20th century women

[00:51:37] He was my number 6

[00:51:38] Best hands in 2016 cinema

[00:51:40] My number 6 and it was so close

[00:51:42] It hurt me to leave him off

[00:51:44] I saw 20th century a second time

[00:51:46] And that performance really exploded for me

[00:51:48] It's incredible

[00:51:49] Knowing the whole character from the beginning

[00:51:50] Makes it even richer

[00:51:51] The scene where he kisses her at the bar

[00:51:54] And then she's like

[00:51:55] Why did you do that

[00:51:56] I thought you were with Abbey

[00:51:58] And he's like

[00:51:59] Well we're not really like it's

[00:52:01] He says something

[00:52:02] He's like it's not serious

[00:52:03] And then she goes well then why do it

[00:52:04] And the look on his face

[00:52:05] And reaction to that

[00:52:06] It's one of those

[00:52:07] It's amazing

[00:52:08] I mean it's true of every character in that movie

[00:52:10] Like you see

[00:52:11] You're like

[00:52:12] Oh this is like a kind of hippie

[00:52:13] Crunchy guy

[00:52:14] I get it

[00:52:15] And then immediately you're like

[00:52:16] No no I don't think I have this guy right

[00:52:18] And he keeps like evading your tracking

[00:52:20] And then in the period scene

[00:52:22] The administration scene

[00:52:23] Where he's like

[00:52:24] Oh you know sometimes it's very nice

[00:52:25] Make love to the whole woman

[00:52:26] And remember to make love to the whole woman

[00:52:27] Not just the vagina

[00:52:28] It's like

[00:52:30] The fact that he's not always

[00:52:32] That smart

[00:52:33] Yeah

[00:52:34] You know what I mean

[00:52:35] But then sometimes he can be very profound

[00:52:36] Yeah

[00:52:37] And Cronop just like keeps him from ever being cartoony

[00:52:39] Cronop's a good actor

[00:52:40] It's

[00:52:41] After I saw that movie the first time

[00:52:42] I think I tweeted out

[00:52:43] I was like

[00:52:44] This movie is what happens

[00:52:46] When William Miller, his mother

[00:52:48] His sister

[00:52:51] What's his character's name in almost famous

[00:52:53] Oh

[00:52:54] Fucking

[00:52:55] Still water guy

[00:52:56] Why are we forgetting the name of the guy

[00:52:58] Russell Hammond

[00:52:59] Oh Russell Hammond

[00:53:00] And Sapphire from almost famous

[00:53:01] All like went and got a house in Santa Barbara

[00:53:03] Like that's how it felt to me

[00:53:04] Like this is Russell Hammond sort of growing up

[00:53:06] A little bit wiser

[00:53:07] But still a little bit of like a doofus

[00:53:09] Yeah

[00:53:10] Ray Fiennes in a bigger splash

[00:53:12] You claim it's a lead performance

[00:53:14] I fully believe it's a lead performance

[00:53:16] But I think it's a starting

[00:53:17] No

[00:53:18] Tilda's the only lead in that movie

[00:53:19] There are co-leads

[00:53:20] And one of them is Ray Fiennes

[00:53:22] That's a great movie though

[00:53:23] And he's so

[00:53:24] Like that's Ray Fiennes turned up to 12

[00:53:26] Like it's wonderful

[00:53:27] It's one of those things where

[00:53:28] He comes in and

[00:53:29] He's so gross in so much of that movie too

[00:53:31] He's such a fucking like

[00:53:32] Simmering cauldron of insecurity

[00:53:35] And herpes

[00:53:36] And herpes

[00:53:37] And he comes in the movie

[00:53:38] And you're like

[00:53:39] I get it he's like the spark plug

[00:53:40] Like I've seen this before

[00:53:42] And then the scene where he dances to emotional rescue

[00:53:45] And he like turns the movie

[00:53:47] Into his movie for a minute

[00:53:48] He's like jiving for the camera

[00:53:50] That is not easy to do

[00:53:52] No I agree

[00:53:53] And I think that's why it's his movie

[00:53:55] But then later in that movie

[00:53:57] I mean you know

[00:53:58] Spoiler around

[00:53:59] The other musical scene of that movie

[00:54:00] Is when he and Tilda do karaoke at the bar

[00:54:05] And she can't

[00:54:06] She's not supposed to be singing

[00:54:07] And it's the two of them sort of like

[00:54:09] Facing off and singing to each other

[00:54:11] That's great

[00:54:12] But yeah no it is not his movie

[00:54:14] Because I feel like you're forgetting about

[00:54:15] The end of the movie

[00:54:16] Spoiler alert

[00:54:17] It's a sequel to

[00:54:18] Unbreakable

[00:54:19] And Shia LaBeouf

[00:54:21] Why aren't you guys nominated Shia?

[00:54:23] I love that movie

[00:54:24] Oh you haven't seen it

[00:54:25] You should see it

[00:54:26] I think he's probably

[00:54:27] If I had a top 10 list

[00:54:29] Or top 12 list he'd be on it

[00:54:30] Put it this way

[00:54:31] If I told you just a year ago

[00:54:33] There's gonna be a movie

[00:54:34] Where you're gonna have a crush

[00:54:36] On Shia LaBeouf with a rat tail

[00:54:38] Suit pants

[00:54:39] And like a white t-shirt

[00:54:41] I super want to have sex with Shia LaBeouf

[00:54:43] In like tick infested tall grass

[00:54:44] Now after seeing that movie

[00:54:46] The best sex scene of the year

[00:54:47] It's a really good sex scene

[00:54:48] Love Shia LaBeouf

[00:54:49] American Huntsman

[00:54:50] Is gonna show up a few times

[00:54:51] Alright

[00:54:52] Okay

[00:54:53] Yeah as I said

[00:54:54] Billy Crudup would be my number 6

[00:54:56] Tom Bennett's also my runner

[00:54:57] Tom Bennett's so funny

[00:54:58] Church Hill

[00:54:59] That's what he does

[00:55:00] And that's his first

[00:55:01] Basically his first scene

[00:55:02] Like you see him a little bit before that

[00:55:03] He's a bit of a rattle

[00:55:04] The other one

[00:55:05] I'm kinda maybe proving my

[00:55:07] My own point here

[00:55:09] By leaving him off

[00:55:11] Even though it really hurt me

[00:55:12] I think Liam Neeson's phenomenal in silence

[00:55:14] And I haven't heard anyone talk about it

[00:55:16] Liam Neeson's fantastic in silence

[00:55:17] Tadu

[00:55:18] How do you say this

[00:55:19] Tadunobu Asano is amazing

[00:55:21] Is he the one who plays the

[00:55:23] One who keeps snitching on them?

[00:55:25] Yes

[00:55:26] Yes

[00:55:27] He is really good

[00:55:29] You see, God is really good

[00:55:30] Everyone is good in them

[00:55:31] Especially all those supporting performers

[00:55:34] That movie's on my ensemble list

[00:55:36] I feel like that was really underrated

[00:55:38] When it came to an ensemble

[00:55:39] And I think Neeson falls into the

[00:55:41] Patriots Day category

[00:55:42] Where he enters

[00:55:43] Just that first scene

[00:55:44] Where he comes face to face

[00:55:45] With Garfield

[00:55:46] It just becomes his movie

[00:55:48] Every line reading

[00:55:49] Has like three different interpretations

[00:55:51] To it

[00:55:52] Like he's gotta play

[00:55:53] Three different vibes

[00:55:54] Simultaneously with every sentence

[00:55:55] I think it's incredible

[00:55:56] But yet I'm a fuckin' hypocrite

[00:55:57] Because I left him off my five

[00:55:58] It's tough

[00:55:59] You are a hypocrite

[00:56:00] I am a hypocrite

[00:56:01] Well the thing is also

[00:56:02] I all year I'd read the book

[00:56:03] And I was like

[00:56:04] I really think this is

[00:56:05] Gonna be a Neeson like

[00:56:06] Threat to win

[00:56:07] Yeah

[00:56:08] Because it is kind of

[00:56:09] Like a Colonel Kurtz character

[00:56:10] Yes

[00:56:11] And then the movie is so

[00:56:12] You know restrained

[00:56:14] When he shows up

[00:56:15] And his performance is so restrained

[00:56:16] That I was like

[00:56:17] Okay, this is not what this is gonna be

[00:56:18] But he is fantastic nonetheless

[00:56:20] It feels very sort of

[00:56:22] A glib to say

[00:56:25] Silence was a movie that was too good

[00:56:27] For the Oscars

[00:56:28] But I think silence was a movie that was too good

[00:56:29] 100%

[00:56:30] Some other, I like everyone in the lobster

[00:56:32] John C. Riley and Ben Wushaw

[00:56:33] Especially our hysterical one

[00:56:34] Ben Wushaw

[00:56:35] My wonderful husband

[00:56:37] Ben Wushaw

[00:56:38] He's a wonderful husband to assault

[00:56:39] Jeff Bridges is great

[00:56:40] In heller high water

[00:56:41] I don't care that it's like

[00:56:42] Just Jeff Bridges doing his

[00:56:44] Bullshit

[00:56:45] He's fantastic

[00:56:46] But we all agree

[00:56:47] That there was one day

[00:56:49] Where he became like

[00:56:50] Yosemite Sam

[00:56:51] No, it happened and that's the world we live in

[00:56:53] Yeah, he chose on Tintin

[00:56:55] Everybody

[00:56:57] In everybody wants some

[00:56:59] I mean

[00:57:00] It's tough to, it one howls the obvious one

[00:57:02] But there's so many great

[00:57:04] Ryan Guzman is

[00:57:05] I'm so proud of that kid

[00:57:06] I'm very protective of all the

[00:57:08] What you call it

[00:57:10] Step up kids

[00:57:11] Oh sure, is he one of them?

[00:57:12] He's one of them

[00:57:13] And I love him

[00:57:14] I have more, I can't stop

[00:57:15] Sorry guys

[00:57:16] No, can you go with me?

[00:57:17] Patrick Stewart in Green Room

[00:57:19] Is so good

[00:57:22] The idea of a scary bureaucrat Nazi

[00:57:24] Who never raises his voice

[00:57:26] Sure

[00:57:27] Never really like what do you have

[00:57:29] I couldn't get past the accent

[00:57:30] I think the accent is so bad that it took me out of the movie every single time

[00:57:33] Love it

[00:57:37] Who the fuck

[00:57:38] What is his name?

[00:57:39] Jesus Christ

[00:57:40] I know his name

[00:57:41] And it's escaped me

[00:57:42] But it's gonna come back

[00:57:43] From one movie

[00:57:44] Edges 17

[00:57:45] Oh Hayden Setso

[00:57:46] Hayden Setso

[00:57:47] I was also on my breakthrough actor list

[00:57:49] That first scene where he says, Kulio

[00:57:51] It's incredible

[00:57:52] He's got such a Justin Long thing

[00:57:54] I wanna like hug him for a day and a half

[00:57:56] You guys know the most impressive thing about that performance

[00:57:58] What's that?

[00:57:59] He's 31 years old

[00:58:00] Yeah, he's 31

[00:58:01] And when I saw

[00:58:02] Who do you talk to? Angie Hunt about that

[00:58:03] Yeah

[00:58:05] Tengel Vridlain

[00:58:06] Goodman

[00:58:07] Just doing goodman stuff

[00:58:08] Finally

[00:58:09] We've talked about it at UNI for sure

[00:58:11] Erin Eckhart

[00:58:12] In Soling

[00:58:13] Yup

[00:58:14] Oh god

[00:58:15] He lands the plane

[00:58:16] He gets the plane going again

[00:58:17] And he lands it somewhere else

[00:58:18] He lands it all over your fucking face

[00:58:20] And here's another thing

[00:58:21] We talk a lot about

[00:58:22] When we talk about performances

[00:58:23] We talk about them carrying the movie

[00:58:24] Right?

[00:58:25] Carrying a scene

[00:58:26] You know, carrying their co-star

[00:58:27] What do you have to carry in your role

[00:58:29] In your work in this film?

[00:58:30] He's gotta carry

[00:58:32] A goddamn push broom on his upper lip

[00:58:34] The entire fucking film

[00:58:36] That's the hardest mustache I've ever seen

[00:58:38] It's a great mustache

[00:58:39] Not only that

[00:58:40] He has a line

[00:58:41] Where he legitimately complains

[00:58:43] About the price of drinks and snacks

[00:58:46] In hotel mini bars

[00:58:48] And you buy

[00:58:50] That it has just occurred to this guy

[00:58:52] How expensive

[00:58:53] That he does not know that

[00:58:55] That is a common complaint

[00:58:56] Spoiler alert

[00:58:57] Sully is an American masterpiece

[00:58:59] We're gonna keep talking about it

[00:59:00] For the rest of the episode

[00:59:01] S-U-L-L-Y

[00:59:04] Five letters

[00:59:05] They spell America

[00:59:07] Back in the rack

[00:59:08] Sully fucking rules

[00:59:09] Everyone's gonna think

[00:59:10] That UNI are trolling David

[00:59:12] No, that's the problem with Sully

[00:59:14] I do feel trolled

[00:59:15] I remember I said it to

[00:59:17] I think it was Richard Lawson

[00:59:18] I said, isn't Sully great

[00:59:19] And he kind of leaned in

[00:59:20] And he was like, are you kidding?

[00:59:22] And I was like, I'm not kidding

[00:59:23] And he was like, it is great

[00:59:25] There's a lot of things where I had to be like

[00:59:26] I had to say the password

[00:59:27] It is, it's very very password

[00:59:28] Isn't Sully great cream cheese?

[00:59:29] And he's like, cream cheese

[00:59:30] Yes it is great

[00:59:31] And here's what drives me crazy

[00:59:33] I talked to a lot of people who were like

[00:59:34] I mean I enjoyed watching Sully

[00:59:35] But come on, it's not a good movie

[00:59:37] Get the fuck out of here

[00:59:38] You enjoyed watching it

[00:59:39] You think that was my answer?

[00:59:40] You think that was by accident?

[00:59:41] You think that was by accident?

[00:59:42] Birds

[00:59:43] You think they accidentally made something

[00:59:45] That you like to watch?

[00:59:46] Best vocal performance is the guy who said birds

[00:59:48] Bird

[00:59:49] Is it a lady again?

[00:59:50] Fucking Sully rule

[00:59:51] Birds

[00:59:52] Erin Eckert rules

[00:59:53] Alright, best actor

[00:59:54] Let's do best actor

[00:59:55] Okay, ready?

[00:59:56] We'll, you know, we'll switch it up

[00:59:58] No, cause actress needs to be the last one

[01:00:00] This is good because I'm about to piss you off

[01:00:02] A couple times in a row

[01:00:03] Uh-oh, fuck this bullshit

[01:00:04] Ready?

[01:00:05] I'm about to do, yeah

[01:00:06] And my nominee is for best actor

[01:00:09] In a leading role are

[01:00:10] We should say kind of a weak year

[01:00:12] Really weak, yes

[01:00:13] As was last year

[01:00:14] As was last year

[01:00:15] Which is unusual

[01:00:16] Yes, I count three things I'm about to do that will piss you off

[01:00:19] Excited

[01:00:20] Ready?

[01:00:21] My nominees are

[01:00:22] Stomach is turned, yeah

[01:00:24] Tom Hanks in

[01:00:25] Sully

[01:00:26] Of course

[01:00:28] Davidie Loewo in Queen of Katwae

[01:00:32] Real Griff Pick there

[01:00:34] Colin Farrell in The Lobster

[01:00:38] Ray Fiennes in A Bigger Splash

[01:00:41] And he is good though

[01:00:42] And, let me straight my bow tie here

[01:00:44] I've only counted one thing so far

[01:00:48] John Goodman in Ten Cloverfield Lane

[01:00:51] Interesting

[01:00:52] I could see that

[01:00:53] I'd see the argument for that

[01:00:54] Yeah, I could too

[01:00:55] Yeah, actually

[01:00:56] Actually, that doesn't piss me off at all

[01:00:57] He's kind of a quasi-lead though

[01:00:59] It's tough

[01:01:00] It's tough

[01:01:01] Honestly, I only saw it once

[01:01:03] I kind of need to see it again to remember like

[01:01:05] How much, because he does disappear for stretches of the movie

[01:01:08] When she is sort of doing like the investigation

[01:01:11] He sort of falls down under the Hannibal Lecter statute though, right?

[01:01:15] I think that's fair

[01:01:16] He's a lot of the movie

[01:01:17] And he's in a lot of the movie and like the movie

[01:01:19] And he looms like, I mean, you know

[01:01:21] He looms large in more ways than one

[01:01:23] Yeah

[01:01:24] And he is one of our finest actors

[01:01:25] One of our finest actors

[01:01:26] And still never Oscar nominated

[01:01:27] We could be a two time Oscar winner in my books

[01:01:29] For which to?

[01:01:30] Barton Fink and Lebowski

[01:01:32] He did it

[01:01:33] Lebowski is

[01:01:35] Oh my god

[01:01:36] Talking about an iconic performance that nobody like

[01:01:38] Gives enough respect to

[01:01:39] And people give a lot of respect to that movie

[01:01:41] Yeah

[01:01:42] Oh yeah, perhaps sometimes more than they should

[01:01:44] But yet he's still underrated somehow

[01:01:46] I agree

[01:01:47] John, do you want to share your...

[01:01:48] Yeah, yeah, so mine are

[01:01:50] What was the third thing though?

[01:01:51] I think you'll realize it later

[01:01:52] Okay

[01:01:53] Casey Aflac for Manchester by the Sea

[01:01:56] Colin Farrell for The Lobster

[01:01:58] Andy Garfield for Silence

[01:02:01] Andy Garfield

[01:02:02] Andy Garfield

[01:02:03] Tervante Rhodes for Moonlight

[01:02:04] Which we can talk about

[01:02:05] Lee vs. Corker

[01:02:06] We'll talk about it

[01:02:07] Yeah

[01:02:08] And then Denzel for Fences

[01:02:09] Yeah

[01:02:10] Casey, Aflac from Manchester by the Sea

[01:02:13] Sure, we don't have to like him

[01:02:14] But we can

[01:02:15] What can I do?

[01:02:16] It's a great performance

[01:02:17] But you know, caveat seems like a bit of a jerk

[01:02:19] Seems like a bit of a jerk

[01:02:21] Adam Driver for Patterson

[01:02:23] That's a great one, he was my sixth

[01:02:25] Colin Farrell for The Lobster

[01:02:26] Tom Hanks for Sully

[01:02:27] Denzel Washington for Fences

[01:02:29] Honestly, my sixth is probably Ryan Gosling

[01:02:31] Like that, it's a weirdly weak year

[01:02:33] Yeah

[01:02:34] I think Gosling is terrific in all of these

[01:02:35] I think Gosling is very good in that movie

[01:02:36] He was close for me

[01:02:37] All so close for me

[01:02:38] Chris Pine in Hell or Hot Water

[01:02:39] Great performance

[01:02:41] What are some of the...

[01:02:42] Yeah, let's think

[01:02:43] I got Logan Lerman as a runner up

[01:02:44] For Indignation

[01:02:45] Nice

[01:02:46] I did like Garfield in Silence

[01:02:48] And I, you know, thought he was okay

[01:02:50] In Hexhol Ridge although

[01:02:51] I think he's really well-havocated

[01:02:53] He's the lesser performance of the two

[01:02:55] That movie's first half is so fucking goofy

[01:02:57] It's so goofy

[01:02:58] I also have Def Patel as a runner up

[01:03:00] For Lion

[01:03:01] Sort of under the Tervante Rhodes thing

[01:03:03] Of the character is the lead character

[01:03:05] I'm reaching out to give Joe a

[01:03:08] Shake of the hand because Def Patel is a

[01:03:10] Lead in Lion

[01:03:12] Yes, that character's a lead

[01:03:13] I think sometimes we get hung up on

[01:03:17] Screen time and...

[01:03:18] Yes, we do

[01:03:19] Yes

[01:03:20] I think with both Tervante Rhodes and Def Patel

[01:03:22] They are the leads of their portions

[01:03:25] Of the movie

[01:03:26] Sure

[01:03:27] And it...

[01:03:28] I don't know, it's tough to...

[01:03:30] It's very borderline

[01:03:31] I could see it

[01:03:32] I think the difference between those two

[01:03:33] Is cutting something into halves rather than thirds

[01:03:35] And I think thirds makes it supporting

[01:03:37] And halves makes it lead

[01:03:38] I think you can do whatever you want

[01:03:39] But I think Def Patel's supporting

[01:03:40] But also lead, like I don't care

[01:03:42] Do you think Trump's going to change

[01:03:44] The rules of the Blankey Awards?

[01:03:45] You saying you can do whatever you want

[01:03:46] I don't want to talk about Donald Trump

[01:03:48] Here, I have some words

[01:03:49] I have some people that like some runners up

[01:03:51] Can I say two more runners up?

[01:03:52] Sure

[01:03:53] Michael Shannon

[01:03:54] I thought you were moving us off

[01:03:55] The runners up

[01:03:56] Michael Shannon in...

[01:03:57] Yeah

[01:03:58] Yeah, you know

[01:03:59] It's an okay movie

[01:04:00] I liked Edgerton the best

[01:04:01] Of the Midnight Special Ensemble

[01:04:04] I thought it was the most terrific in that

[01:04:06] It was a movie that did not stick with me

[01:04:08] And one more

[01:04:09] One more

[01:04:10] A wild card on my 6 through 10

[01:04:12] Sure

[01:04:13] Julian Dennison for Hunt for the Wilder People

[01:04:16] Oh

[01:04:17] You know, an adorable movie

[01:04:18] That is a Griffin pick

[01:04:19] And he's very cute

[01:04:20] That's a Griffin pick

[01:04:21] Yeah

[01:04:22] What a great movie

[01:04:23] I want to shout out Russell Crowe

[01:04:24] In The Nice Guys

[01:04:25] Sure

[01:04:26] I like this movie because it really has like two co-leads

[01:04:28] Who both do a great job

[01:04:29] But neither of them

[01:04:30] Oh wait, so when you said Ryan Gosling

[01:04:32] You meant The Nice Guys

[01:04:33] No, I meant Lala Land

[01:04:34] Oh okay

[01:04:35] I mean he's great in The Nice Guys too

[01:04:36] I think he's phenomenal in The Nice Guys

[01:04:37] So funny

[01:04:38] Yeah

[01:04:39] I like him in both

[01:04:40] Yeah

[01:04:41] I just think Lala Land is a tough thing

[01:04:42] And luckily

[01:04:43] I think he really landed it

[01:04:44] No one ever talked about how he like

[01:04:45] Talked about jazz

[01:04:46] But David

[01:04:47] No one brought that

[01:04:48] Jazz

[01:04:49] But Jazz David

[01:04:50] I mean look

[01:04:51] Obviously Lala Land is a totemic work of racism

[01:04:53] On the scale of the birth of a nation

[01:04:55] BW Griffith one

[01:04:56] No whatever

[01:04:57] Okay

[01:04:58] We're not

[01:04:59] We're actually really not going to talk much about Lala Land

[01:05:00] Jazz though

[01:05:02] Jazz though

[01:05:03] I'm trying to think if there are any other

[01:05:05] Obvious leads

[01:05:06] I kind of like your 10 Cloverfield Lane argument

[01:05:09] Yeah it's a good argument

[01:05:10] It's a great way of arguing

[01:05:11] A great lead in a movie that nobody saw

[01:05:13] In this country is Dave Johns and I Daniel Blake

[01:05:15] Which is a pretty darn good movie

[01:05:17] And he's fucking fantastic

[01:05:18] Joel Edgerton was good in loving

[01:05:20] Yep

[01:05:21] Very understated

[01:05:22] Christian Bale's kind of good in a night of cups

[01:05:25] Oh I haven't seen it

[01:05:26] Oh I don't know when I'm gonna

[01:05:27] I'll be talking to you

[01:05:28] I might have a cup a little bit later

[01:05:29] Oh I know you will

[01:05:30] Uh oh

[01:05:31] Andy Samberg's pretty great in pop star

[01:05:33] Never stop, never stop

[01:05:34] That is a Golden Globe nomination snub

[01:05:36] That hurts

[01:05:37] Pretty rude

[01:05:38] What the fuck

[01:05:39] I feel like there's one other obvious one

[01:05:41] That I am forgetting

[01:05:42] Wait and now I'm just looking at

[01:05:44] Not been half a good live by night

[01:05:46] That's for sure

[01:05:47] Just sort of like scrolling down my ways

[01:05:49] I have Guy Algarcia Bernal in Neruda

[01:05:51] Yeah he's good

[01:05:52] Nobody really saw that movie

[01:05:53] Almost a supporting pre-

[01:05:54] Like there's an odd one

[01:05:55] It is almost a supporting

[01:05:56] Oh right

[01:05:57] Yeah look

[01:05:58] Two movies that are not good

[01:05:59] But I like the leads

[01:06:00] Let's hear it

[01:06:01] Jonah Hill and War Dogs is great

[01:06:03] I'm sorry

[01:06:04] I refuse

[01:06:05] I haven't seen it on a heart

[01:06:06] I won't see that movie

[01:06:07] Oh I know and it's fine

[01:06:08] And Michael Fastbender's fantastic

[01:06:10] In the light between oceans

[01:06:12] It's a real Fastbender performance

[01:06:14] It is

[01:06:15] But it doesn't mean he's not good

[01:06:16] Yeah

[01:06:17] Like that movie would suck without him

[01:06:18] I stick up for that

[01:06:19] As it is with him

[01:06:20] It's okay

[01:06:21] Yeah it's okay

[01:06:22] I love KC Affleck off my five

[01:06:24] For political reasons

[01:06:26] I felt like it

[01:06:27] Yeah

[01:06:28] You know like if I'm being completely honest with myself

[01:06:30] Yes that is empirically one of the five best performances

[01:06:32] I saw all year

[01:06:33] Yeah

[01:06:34] That stands

[01:06:35] Does me giving him

[01:06:36] You don't want to invite him to your ceremony

[01:06:38] Right I mean it's like

[01:06:39] My nomination fucking means nothing

[01:06:41] We're recording in like a fucking closet

[01:06:43] And I'm just saying bullshit

[01:06:44] But it just

[01:06:45] I felt like I didn't want to do it

[01:06:47] The performance still stands

[01:06:48] It doesn't negate the work

[01:06:49] Yeah

[01:06:50] But like maybe

[01:06:51] I don't need to laud him

[01:06:52] I mean I sat there and I was like

[01:06:53] If I can come up with five nominees

[01:06:55] That I think are good

[01:06:56] Where I'm not stretching it

[01:06:57] And pushing someone above him

[01:06:59] Right

[01:07:00] Who doesn't deserve to be there

[01:07:01] Yeah

[01:07:02] Then I'll leave him off

[01:07:03] And when I like decided that Goodman was lead

[01:07:05] Yeah

[01:07:06] Then that was like the shift for me

[01:07:07] I hear ya

[01:07:08] That's where I stand on that

[01:07:10] Um

[01:07:12] I mean who are your winners

[01:07:14] Okay ready

[01:07:15] Did we say our winners for Sporting Actor

[01:07:16] No we did

[01:07:17] Let's go around the horn

[01:07:18] We didn't say our winners

[01:07:19] We didn't say the winners

[01:07:20] Aaron Reich

[01:07:21] My Hershel Ali is my winner

[01:07:23] I at the time that I saw Hail Caesar said

[01:07:25] I can't imagine that anyone would be

[01:07:27] Anorect for me

[01:07:28] And then I saw Moonlight

[01:07:29] And I think Hershel Ali is one of the best performances

[01:07:31] I've ever seen

[01:07:32] Agreed

[01:07:33] But we're all essentially talking about the same two people

[01:07:35] Yeah

[01:07:36] Alright so best actor

[01:07:37] My winner is Adam Driver for Patterson

[01:07:39] Yeah let's talk about Patterson

[01:07:40] The greatest fucking movie

[01:07:41] Have you seen Patterson

[01:07:42] I have

[01:07:43] Okay

[01:07:44] I was

[01:07:45] Okay

[01:07:46] Welmed by it

[01:07:47] I liked it

[01:07:48] I liked it a lot

[01:07:49] I think Driver's great

[01:07:50] Driver's one of my favorite actors

[01:07:51] Um

[01:07:52] I was distressed

[01:07:53] Yeah I agree

[01:07:54] I was distressed to see Huskini

[01:07:55] He got in silence

[01:07:56] I really hope

[01:07:57] Huskini

[01:07:58] He had some food after that

[01:07:59] He'll be back up for Last Jedi

[01:08:00] Yeah

[01:08:01] Oh yes

[01:08:02] Last Jedi

[01:08:03] I cannot wait

[01:08:04] Yeah Patterson's really good

[01:08:06] I

[01:08:08] The thing about most Jarmusch movies that are not

[01:08:10] Uh

[01:08:11] What's the vampire one

[01:08:13] Only lovers left

[01:08:14] Only lovers left

[01:08:15] Which I adored

[01:08:16] Yeah

[01:08:17] That's a good movie

[01:08:18] And I sorta like not

[01:08:19] And I sorta like maybe forget about it a little bit

[01:08:21] There's a dog joke in Patterson

[01:08:23] That will stick with me forever and ever

[01:08:26] Do you mean the mailbox

[01:08:28] What a great fucking pay off that is

[01:08:31] Otherwise that movie is sorta like

[01:08:33] Yeah good movie

[01:08:34] But I agree with you that Driver is brilliant

[01:08:35] My winner would be Denzel

[01:08:36] I think

[01:08:37] He's so good

[01:08:38] Somewhat perfunctorily

[01:08:39] It feels not exciting

[01:08:40] To talk about

[01:08:41] Like Denzel's my number one

[01:08:42] But he's great

[01:08:43] It's like seeing like

[01:08:44] A great tenor perform at the Oscar

[01:08:45] At the opera

[01:08:46] You know like it's just you're like

[01:08:47] Oh here he goes

[01:08:48] And he knows exactly what he's doing

[01:08:50] There it is

[01:08:51] My winner is Tom Hanks for Solid

[01:08:53] He's so good

[01:08:54] And I'll admit that's also boosted by

[01:08:58] Hologram for the King

[01:08:59] Which I think is fantastic

[01:09:00] I still haven't seen it

[01:09:01] Two of my favorite leading performances of the year

[01:09:03] I think he's

[01:09:04] Is that Tickler?

[01:09:05] It is Tom Tickler

[01:09:06] Our old friend

[01:09:07] And I think he's just like

[01:09:09] A fucking like Redwood Oak

[01:09:11] Of American cinema

[01:09:12] I got no beef with any of this

[01:09:14] And talking to our friend Richard Lawson

[01:09:16] When we were having our conversation

[01:09:17] Where we both said cream cheese to each other

[01:09:19] And then we're allowed to go into the basement

[01:09:20] And talk about Sully

[01:09:21] Cream cheese

[01:09:22] I

[01:09:23] Together we developed this theory

[01:09:25] That the thing that's so satisfying

[01:09:26] About this present day

[01:09:27] Tom Hanks run

[01:09:28] Where he has sort of dropped all affectations

[01:09:30] And just become a really fucking

[01:09:32] Strong

[01:09:33] Straight down the line actor

[01:09:34] Yeah

[01:09:35] Is that he's playing people

[01:09:36] Who are good at their jobs

[01:09:37] And he himself is good at his job

[01:09:39] Yes

[01:09:40] Of acting

[01:09:41] And it's the Britcha Spies thing

[01:09:42] It's the Sully thing

[01:09:43] Who's satisfying to watch someone

[01:09:44] Who just excels in their profession

[01:09:45] Yeah

[01:09:46] And you're watching that on two layers

[01:09:47] With any Hanks performance

[01:09:48] I still don't think anything

[01:09:49] In the last two movies that you mentioned

[01:09:52] Comparised to Captain Phillips

[01:09:54] I feel like that's

[01:09:55] Great too

[01:09:56] That's a different performance

[01:09:57] He's good at his job

[01:09:58] But he's under a lot more

[01:09:59] I love all three of those

[01:10:00] Those are my three Tom Hanks

[01:10:01] Greatest job

[01:10:02] And much as I

[01:10:03] Didn't like Sully

[01:10:04] But I think he's

[01:10:05] He's very good at Sully

[01:10:07] Birds

[01:10:08] If you like Sully

[01:10:09] Treat it me hashtag cream cheese

[01:10:11] Yes

[01:10:12] Treat me too

[01:10:13] Yeah sure

[01:10:14] If you want

[01:10:15] My idea

[01:10:16] Adam Driver's great

[01:10:17] We can talk more about Patterson

[01:10:19] Adam Driver's my favorite performance

[01:10:21] Best actress

[01:10:22] You know I'm a sub-actress

[01:10:24] So I watched Patterson

[01:10:25] I liked it

[01:10:27] I saw Adam Driver's performance

[01:10:29] I liked it

[01:10:30] I knew this was a very-

[01:10:31] I'm glad that when you watch Patterson

[01:10:33] You saw his performance

[01:10:34] Because otherwise you really would

[01:10:35] Not have been paying much attention

[01:10:36] It's a lot of looking away from the scene

[01:10:38] I saw him

[01:10:39] I recognized what he was doing

[01:10:40] I enjoyed it

[01:10:41] I went in knowing that it was your

[01:10:43] Fair performance of the year

[01:10:44] I don't

[01:10:45] I don't know if it's

[01:10:46] You know there's a lot of good performances

[01:10:48] Like Ali is

[01:10:49] Yeah

[01:10:50] Okay it's

[01:10:51] I maybe talk a little bit more about like

[01:10:53] What he's doing in that movie

[01:10:54] Because like it's so subtle

[01:10:55] That's what I'm at

[01:10:56] He's showing

[01:10:57] The movie is about understanding

[01:10:58] To me about understanding like creativity

[01:11:00] Like which is a very difficult thing to depict

[01:11:03] Like and he is so good

[01:11:05] It's showing you like

[01:11:07] A person taking in the world

[01:11:09] In a specific way

[01:11:10] Rather than just like

[01:11:11] I don't know

[01:11:12] Like a camera

[01:11:13] Yeah

[01:11:14] And

[01:11:15] I get that it's obviously a low-key subtle movie

[01:11:18] Oh yeah

[01:11:19] But there's something about

[01:11:21] I mean he

[01:11:22] I can't deny that he's an actor

[01:11:23] Who's so charismatic to me

[01:11:24] Like no matter what he's doing

[01:11:25] Yes

[01:11:26] Like even if he's in

[01:11:27] For sure

[01:11:28] You know jerk off indie number six

[01:11:29] Right

[01:11:30] Like you know

[01:11:31] When's Adam Driver Bad

[01:11:32] And it's a watching and listening movie

[01:11:33] So it needs someone who's that

[01:11:34] And neatly

[01:11:35] Right

[01:11:36] Interesting to watch

[01:11:37] To play someone who is so subdued

[01:11:40] And like

[01:11:42] You know we'll have conversations

[01:11:43] With like you think

[01:11:44] The people he loves

[01:11:45] Like his wife or partner

[01:11:47] Do we actually know if they're married?

[01:11:49] I think they're more fine

[01:11:50] I don't think they're married

[01:11:52] But that's just my heart

[01:11:53] His live-in girlfriends

[01:11:54] His lady

[01:11:56] Or his boss at the

[01:11:58] Like bus depot or whatever

[01:11:59] And like

[01:12:01] You know

[01:12:02] You would almost think like

[01:12:04] Someone does this wrong

[01:12:05] And you're like

[01:12:06] Watching a movie about like

[01:12:07] An autistic person

[01:12:08] Like but he's not like that

[01:12:09] You get what everyone sees in him

[01:12:11] I could talk about it for a while

[01:12:13] It's tough

[01:12:14] It's my favorite movie

[01:12:15] I mean it might be my number one of the year

[01:12:17] But for a couple really great movies

[01:12:19] Like in another year

[01:12:20] It easily could have been number one

[01:12:21] Man remember

[01:12:22] Watch it again sometime

[01:12:23] But like you know give it a while

[01:12:24] Like

[01:12:25] Remember during the summer

[01:12:26] When everybody was talking about

[01:12:27] What a terrible year for movies this was

[01:12:28] And how it rebounded so hard

[01:12:29] In the fall

[01:12:30] It's true

[01:12:31] It's really amazing

[01:12:32] It's one of those things where

[01:12:33] If you look at the top

[01:12:34] 30 grossing movies

[01:12:35] It's a nightmare

[01:12:36] It's really quite horrifying

[01:12:38] For the first time

[01:12:39] I'm really kind of like

[01:12:40] Begetting to worry

[01:12:41] And I've always been someone who

[01:12:42] Dismissed those like

[01:12:43] Me too

[01:12:44] Kind of like

[01:12:45] Like when movies are ruining

[01:12:46] But then again

[01:12:47] There are so many good movies

[01:12:48] They're just smaller

[01:12:49] And I don't know

[01:12:50] And I feel like

[01:12:51] The bulk of the crappy movies

[01:12:52] In the top 30

[01:12:53] It's not even comic books

[01:12:54] It's just like

[01:12:55] These sort of like

[01:12:56] Uninspired sequels

[01:12:57] Boring animated movies

[01:12:58] Kind of like you know

[01:12:59] Boring reboots

[01:13:00] Yes

[01:13:01] Like whatever

[01:13:02] Exactly

[01:13:03] Alright best actress

[01:13:04] Best actress

[01:13:05] Can I go first?

[01:13:06] Yeah this is the bloodbath category

[01:13:07] So this is the one where

[01:13:08] I had six

[01:13:09] It's so hard

[01:13:10] I had six and I'm literally

[01:13:11] Like deciding now who I'm going to bomb up

[01:13:12] You know it's like you're ordering

[01:13:13] And you haven't quite decided

[01:13:14] Between the salmon and the chicken

[01:13:15] Like I have

[01:13:16] My ten contenders

[01:13:18] All could have won in a different year

[01:13:20] Like I have ten people

[01:13:21] Fighting for five slots

[01:13:22] Who could have been winners

[01:13:23] In a weaker category

[01:13:24] So the chicken that I'm

[01:13:25] That I'm not choosing

[01:13:26] As opposed to the salmon

[01:13:27] Sure

[01:13:28] Is Kate Beckinsale

[01:13:29] And Love and Friendship

[01:13:30] Who I think is phenomenal

[01:13:31] But like the other five

[01:13:32] So my five are Amy Adams and Arrival

[01:13:34] Annette Benning in 20th Century Women

[01:13:36] Viola Davis and Fences

[01:13:38] Rebecca Hall and Christine

[01:13:40] And Natalie Portman and Jackie

[01:13:42] Okay

[01:13:43] My five are

[01:13:44] It's so hard

[01:13:45] So hard

[01:13:46] You can't help but leave off

[01:13:48] Great capital G

[01:13:50] Great performances

[01:13:51] Yeah

[01:13:52] My five are Amy Adams and Arrival

[01:13:54] Yes

[01:13:55] Isabel Oopair and Elle

[01:13:56] Yes

[01:13:57] Nali Portman and Jackie

[01:13:58] Yes

[01:13:59] Haley Steinfeld

[01:14:00] In Edge of 17

[01:14:01] Great

[01:14:02] And Annette Benning for 20th Century Women

[01:14:04] There you go

[01:14:05] Yeah, mine are

[01:14:06] Amy Adams and Arrival

[01:14:08] Isabel Oopair and Things to Come

[01:14:10] Although I like her in Elle too

[01:14:11] I think she's a

[01:14:12] It's hard

[01:14:13] Elle too is such a strange sequel

[01:14:15] Oh boy

[01:14:16] I would love to see it

[01:14:17] Kamma T.O.L

[01:14:19] Her performances in Elle and Things to Come

[01:14:21] Are a great example of why

[01:14:23] Isabel Oopair is one of our best actors

[01:14:25] Because we talk about two movies

[01:14:26] That are very different

[01:14:27] Yep

[01:14:29] Ruth Nega in Loving

[01:14:30] Yep

[01:14:31] Annette Benning in 20th Century Women

[01:14:33] And my winner

[01:14:35] Sasha Lane in American Honey

[01:14:37] Interesting

[01:14:38] I love that movie

[01:14:39] I don't know if I'm super sold on her

[01:14:41] As an actress

[01:14:42] I did

[01:14:44] I think a lot of what's great about

[01:14:45] Andrea Arnold's direction in that movie

[01:14:47] Love that too

[01:14:48] Yeah

[01:14:49] It's a nice

[01:14:50] Yeah, seriously

[01:14:51] Yeah

[01:14:52] Who would your winner be?

[01:14:53] But like

[01:14:54] Everyone you mentioned I love

[01:14:55] Yeah

[01:14:56] Steinfeld is like a really hard one

[01:14:57] I'm gonna leave off for you

[01:14:58] Because I think that is a really hard performance

[01:14:59] To pull off

[01:15:00] Yes

[01:15:01] Fucking

[01:15:02] There's like

[01:15:03] We'll mention them

[01:15:04] There's so many other people

[01:15:05] Can I stomp for Steinfeld for one second?

[01:15:06] Do it

[01:15:07] Yeah

[01:15:08] Cause that was one where I went

[01:15:09] She has no chance

[01:15:10] And I have to make sure no matter what

[01:15:11] When we do our awards episode

[01:15:12] I nominate her

[01:15:13] No and you have to leave her off

[01:15:14] That's like a fucking

[01:15:15] She's my sixth

[01:15:16] Right

[01:15:17] Her opening scene in that movie

[01:15:19] Where she goes into Woody Harrelson's office

[01:15:21] And explains to him

[01:15:22] Why she's gonna kill herself

[01:15:23] Yeah

[01:15:24] And she simultaneously plays

[01:15:25] The severity of someone who genuinely believes

[01:15:27] They might take their own life

[01:15:28] Yeah

[01:15:29] And lands every single joke

[01:15:31] Every comic beat

[01:15:32] Is insane

[01:15:33] Cause I remember I

[01:15:34] Using years ago

[01:15:35] Talk about the tough opening to a movie

[01:15:37] Where you might be turning off

[01:15:38] The whole audience

[01:15:39] Yeah, thank you

[01:15:40] Years and years ago

[01:15:41] I had an audition

[01:15:42] To play like a suicidal kid

[01:15:44] In a comedy

[01:15:45] Right

[01:15:46] And I had just been taking a lot of acting classes

[01:15:47] And was really serious

[01:15:48] About my fucking craft

[01:15:49] And whatever

[01:15:50] And I went in there

[01:15:51] And was like

[01:15:52] I have to play this real

[01:15:53] Like I'm not gonna make a joke out of this

[01:15:54] And I went in

[01:15:55] They were like

[01:15:56] That's way too heavy for me

[01:15:57] Right

[01:15:58] This is a comedy

[01:15:59] Right

[01:16:00] And I've always viewed that as my waterloo

[01:16:01] Like not that specific performance

[01:16:02] In that audition

[01:16:03] But like can you

[01:16:04] Another of your favorite phrases

[01:16:05] Yes

[01:16:06] But can you like fucking do that

[01:16:07] Like can you hit the joke lines

[01:16:08] That have to exist within the script

[01:16:09] While playing the emotion seriously

[01:16:10] Cause I get angry

[01:16:11] When I see comedies

[01:16:12] Where people's problems

[01:16:13] Aren't portrayed with

[01:16:14] Accurate that

[01:16:15] It's strange that when Griffin says

[01:16:16] My waterloo he means the Abbason

[01:16:18] I do mean the Abbason

[01:16:19] Yeah

[01:16:20] Right

[01:16:21] Yes

[01:16:22] Sort of mid level

[01:16:23] Not the most

[01:16:24] The song of the most well known for it

[01:16:25] Right but they want it to be their number one hit

[01:16:27] My favorite thing about Mamma Mia

[01:16:28] Is that they just sing that over the end

[01:16:30] Cause how on earth do you

[01:16:31] Fit that into a plot

[01:16:32] Yep

[01:16:33] Exactly

[01:16:34] Yeah Steinfeld is like

[01:16:35] Get you a performance that can do both

[01:16:36] It's incredible

[01:16:37] And she nails every single joke

[01:16:38] At some of the like most ace

[01:16:39] Sharp comedic timing

[01:16:40] I've seen in a long time

[01:16:42] I should say

[01:16:43] Michael B Jordan presented my nominees

[01:16:45] Oh

[01:16:46] I think he won from all three of us

[01:16:47] I think he did

[01:16:48] Yeah

[01:16:49] He swept

[01:16:50] What a handsome man

[01:16:51] What a handsome man

[01:16:52] B Jordan where is he

[01:16:53] Yeah

[01:16:54] Um

[01:16:55] So who's your winner

[01:16:56] My winner is Sashaleen

[01:16:57] Right

[01:16:58] My winner was Viola Davis

[01:17:00] Up until I saw a 20th century woman

[01:17:01] A second time

[01:17:02] And then Benning sort of leapfrogged her

[01:17:03] Benning's great

[01:17:04] She's so good

[01:17:05] And without like

[01:17:06] This is my thing is like

[01:17:07] Viola Davis is phenomenal

[01:17:08] And gets that like big showcase

[01:17:10] Like

[01:17:11] Snot dripping down her face

[01:17:12] Scene or whatever

[01:17:13] Yeah

[01:17:14] And that Benning doesn't get

[01:17:15] A scene like that written for her

[01:17:16] In the movie

[01:17:17] And even still

[01:17:18] She manages to be like

[01:17:19] Wildly impressive

[01:17:21] In so many different ways

[01:17:22] Mm-hmm

[01:17:23] Yeah

[01:17:24] My winner is Amy Adams 4

[01:17:27] Fantastic performance

[01:17:28] By the way we didn't shout out Jeremy Renner

[01:17:30] In our supporting actor

[01:17:31] Bonanza

[01:17:32] But he's fantastic

[01:17:33] Well a lot of people don't like that movie

[01:17:34] We all get a raise on that

[01:17:35] People are really stupid

[01:17:36] I think he's great in that movie

[01:17:37] A lot of people don't like a rival

[01:17:38] I know

[01:17:39] Which is also

[01:17:40] Donny's Optible

[01:17:41] If you like Jeremy Renner

[01:17:42] In a rival tweet at us

[01:17:43] Cottage

[01:17:44] We love the way to end

[01:17:45] Let's go through the dairy case

[01:17:46] Is what we're doing

[01:17:47] I think I feel the way about Amy

[01:17:48] And it's an arrival that you do

[01:17:49] About Jim Darmes and Patterson

[01:17:50] Which isn't the same

[01:17:51] Jim Darmes and Patterson

[01:17:52] I'm sorry

[01:17:53] Adam Driver and Patterson

[01:17:54] I fucking love Amy Adams

[01:17:55] And arrival

[01:17:56] I think it's such an understated performance

[01:17:57] That is

[01:17:58] You're watching someone think

[01:17:59] For most of the movie

[01:18:00] Yeah

[01:18:01] And I think she has

[01:18:02] She's one of my favorite living actresses

[01:18:04] Um

[01:18:05] And

[01:18:06] Too bad about how bad

[01:18:07] She was in American Hustle

[01:18:08] Oh

[01:18:09] Disagree actually

[01:18:10] Disagree

[01:18:11] So bad

[01:18:12] So bad

[01:18:13] Disagree

[01:18:14] I've told you about my thing

[01:18:15] What did you think I was going to say

[01:18:16] I don't know actually

[01:18:17] I thought you were maybe going

[01:18:18] To say nocturnal animals

[01:18:19] She's not great

[01:18:20] My favorite thing about

[01:18:21] The American Hustle

[01:18:22] Is that that cast is a

[01:18:23] Rorschach pink plot test

[01:18:25] For people who watch it

[01:18:27] And it's just like

[01:18:28] It's everybody who comes out of the movie

[01:18:29] Has a different ranking

[01:18:30] Of who was good and who was bad

[01:18:31] In that movie

[01:18:32] I think Jennifer Lawrence is terrible

[01:18:33] And I think

[01:18:34] Amy Adams is great

[01:18:35] She's not great

[01:18:36] I think they're both bad

[01:18:37] Jeremy Runners the only good

[01:18:38] Performance

[01:18:39] Amy Adams is great in arrival

[01:18:41] You're watching someone think

[01:18:42] Yeah

[01:18:43] No you're right

[01:18:44] And

[01:18:45] And also

[01:18:46] And take in information

[01:18:47] That you don't realize

[01:18:48] But then on a rewatch

[01:18:49] You do realize she doesn't understand

[01:18:50] Yep

[01:18:51] Yes

[01:18:52] Which is hard to

[01:18:53] You know a high wire act

[01:18:54] Also very complicated performance

[01:18:55] She delivers such good voice over

[01:18:57] In that movie

[01:18:58] In a way that's like

[01:18:59] Cape, Landschad and Lord of the Rings level

[01:19:01] Like compelling I find

[01:19:02] And she makes it all look effortless

[01:19:04] It falls into the Tom Hanks category

[01:19:05] Where she's playing someone

[01:19:06] Who's great at her job

[01:19:07] And she is herself

[01:19:08] Showing you how to act

[01:19:09] Yeah

[01:19:10] While doing it

[01:19:11] She wins

[01:19:12] It's almost like

[01:19:13] A lifetime achievement award for me

[01:19:14] Sure

[01:19:15] I mean I think it's probably

[01:19:16] Objectively my favorite of those performances

[01:19:18] But she also gets kind of grandfathered in

[01:19:20] From the fact that

[01:19:21] Yeah

[01:19:22] She should have won like six times

[01:19:23] Although I think she's probably won

[01:19:24] Like six times in my personal awards

[01:19:26] Yeah

[01:19:27] Did you say who your winner was?

[01:19:29] Your winner was the net betting

[01:19:30] Was the net betting

[01:19:31] Who's number two for me

[01:19:32] Yeah

[01:19:33] So

[01:19:34] So many runners up

[01:19:35] Yeah some performances

[01:19:36] You want to shout out guys

[01:19:37] Oh Sasha Lane by the way

[01:19:38] She's fucking lightning in a bottle

[01:19:39] American Honey's Best Movie of the Year

[01:19:40] It's so great

[01:19:41] Who pair was a runner up for me?

[01:19:43] Nega was a runner up for me

[01:19:44] Nega is so good

[01:19:45] Nega that scene where she calls him on the phone

[01:19:48] That's all she does

[01:19:49] Yeah

[01:19:50] And it's all she communicates in her face

[01:19:52] Like is just like

[01:19:53] You know what

[01:19:54] I'm actually going to pick up the phone

[01:19:55] Like without any like overacting

[01:19:57] Any fucking

[01:19:58] What's her name

[01:19:59] In Tony Urban

[01:20:00] It's so good

[01:20:01] Oh yeah

[01:20:02] Sandra Huler

[01:20:03] Yeah

[01:20:04] That's very good

[01:20:05] We also have the Vanity Fair video

[01:20:06] Where Ruth Nega makes an Irish coffee

[01:20:07] Yes

[01:20:08] Yes

[01:20:09] Ruth Nega's the best

[01:20:10] Wonderful

[01:20:11] I love her

[01:20:12] Emma Suarez for Julieta

[01:20:13] Is on my

[01:20:14] I've seen Julieta

[01:20:15] Gotta get to it

[01:20:16] I've talked to people who are really into

[01:20:18] Almotavara who are like

[01:20:19] It's mid-level Almotavara

[01:20:20] For me

[01:20:21] It's the most I've liked in Almotavara

[01:20:22] Movie since like that education

[01:20:24] It's really good

[01:20:25] Sure

[01:20:26] I liked it a lot

[01:20:27] Royalty Hightower in the Fits

[01:20:28] Sure

[01:20:29] Is a wonderful debut performance

[01:20:30] I assume it's a debut performance

[01:20:31] Very good

[01:20:32] That movie is fantastic

[01:20:33] Yeah

[01:20:34] Minhee Kim from the Handmaid who falls into the trap

[01:20:36] I already laid out

[01:20:38] Natalie Corbin

[01:20:39] Natalie Corbin and Jackie

[01:20:40] She's great

[01:20:41] And Jackie Jackie

[01:20:42] Also, and this is such a hipsterly pick

[01:20:43] But like

[01:20:44] Creecia Fairchild from Creecia is

[01:20:46] It's a good movie

[01:20:47] Such like a presence in my view

[01:20:49] Check it out guys

[01:20:50] It's on Netflix

[01:20:51] It's like we suddenly got an urban outfitter

[01:20:52] I know

[01:20:53] I know

[01:20:54] That's why I almost hated to say it

[01:20:55] None of us nominated the Oscar winner

[01:20:57] I'm gonna put it on for the record

[01:20:59] Emma Stone

[01:21:00] But she's pretty good in La La Land

[01:21:01] I like her in La La Land

[01:21:02] I have no beef with her

[01:21:03] I like her a lot in La La Land

[01:21:04] She's fine in that movie

[01:21:05] Yeah

[01:21:06] That movie is fine

[01:21:07] The movie's good

[01:21:08] Very good actually

[01:21:09] Griffin's wrong about that

[01:21:10] But Emma Stone's not why I like it

[01:21:12] Although I think she's good

[01:21:13] It's fine

[01:21:15] My other person

[01:21:16] That can sales grade

[01:21:17] My other runner up

[01:21:19] Yeah

[01:21:21] Susan Sarandon for the medley

[01:21:23] Mr. Lawson

[01:21:24] I didn't realize he was the best

[01:21:25] Mr. Lawson is number one

[01:21:26] Our buddy Richard Lawson

[01:21:27] Picked his number one movie of the year

[01:21:28] I said

[01:21:29] I think she's wonderful

[01:21:30] That is an incredible

[01:21:31] I cannot believe that it's possible

[01:21:33] And then I watched it

[01:21:34] And boy is that a fun movie

[01:21:35] Is she really good in it

[01:21:36] That's a fun movie and she's really good in it

[01:21:38] She's really good in it

[01:21:39] Taraji B. Henson's really good

[01:21:40] In Hidden Figures

[01:21:41] Yeah

[01:21:42] And I think kind of a weirdly tough role

[01:21:45] Like a weirdly written role

[01:21:46] Okay

[01:21:47] I've never written

[01:21:48] But she is good

[01:21:49] I personally think Melissa McCarthy

[01:21:51] And Kristen McGregor great in Ghostbusters

[01:21:53] That's kind of a controversial opinion

[01:21:55] I would say Wigs better

[01:21:56] I agree

[01:21:57] I think McCarthy isn't great

[01:21:58] But that's more to do with the character

[01:22:00] Being underwritten rather than her performance

[01:22:02] And I do feel like there was a little bit

[01:22:04] Of her sort of taking her foot off the gas

[01:22:06] In that movie a little bit, right?

[01:22:08] They wrote the Leslie Jones role for her

[01:22:10] Oh, that makes sense

[01:22:11] She said she didn't want to do that

[01:22:12] Because she didn't want to play the firebrand

[01:22:13] If you want to try to lead against type

[01:22:15] And I think the roles she ended up taking

[01:22:18] Which had been written as sort of just the straightforward

[01:22:20] Functional one

[01:22:21] Yeah

[01:22:22] Then there was this awkward meshing between like

[01:22:24] How do you get what's funny about McCarthy with

[01:22:26] The character who needs to propel

[01:22:28] You see that

[01:22:29] You definitely see that

[01:22:30] Ani Taylor joined the witch

[01:22:32] And of course she's proven herself

[01:22:33] Quite an interesting young actress

[01:22:35] I would say

[01:22:36] She's been in her performances since

[01:22:38] Okay

[01:22:39] Best director

[01:22:40] Yeah

[01:22:43] My knownies are

[01:22:45] Barry Jenkins

[01:22:46] Her moonlight

[01:22:47] Oh yeah, I've heard about that

[01:22:48] Denny Villeneuve

[01:22:49] Her arrival

[01:22:52] Mike Mills for 20th Century Women

[01:22:54] Park Chan-Wook

[01:22:56] For The Handmaid Unsure

[01:22:57] And Pablo Lorraine

[01:23:00] Or Jack Hay

[01:23:02] Oh, Jack Hay

[01:23:03] It's so good at that movie

[01:23:04] Jack Hay who?

[01:23:06] Gentlemen, your nominees

[01:23:08] Andrea Arnold, American Honey

[01:23:11] Jim Jarmusch, Patterson

[01:23:12] Barry, Jenks, Moon, Whites

[01:23:16] Be Janks, Martin Scorsese

[01:23:18] For Silencio

[01:23:21] And Old Dennis

[01:23:22] Dennis Villeneuve

[01:23:24] For Arrival

[01:23:25] Yeah, fuck everyone's name

[01:23:26] Mine are very similar to all yours

[01:23:28] Andrea Arnold, American Honey

[01:23:29] Barry Jenkins, Moonlight

[01:23:31] Pablo Lorraine, Jackie

[01:23:32] Martin Scorsese, Silence

[01:23:34] Denny Villeneuve for Arrival

[01:23:37] Some really good directed, well directed movies this year

[01:23:39] I liked a lot of other movies

[01:23:41] And a lot of other directors too

[01:23:43] Yeah, Yorick Oslantemos guys, The Lobster

[01:23:45] What a great breakthrough

[01:23:46] Like the fact that that movie was so

[01:23:48] Oh, for Mounds, Need A Park

[01:23:50] Great movie

[01:23:51] So good

[01:23:52] Narnadeh

[01:23:53] For Tony Ehrman

[01:23:54] I'm gonna shout out Karen Kusama one more time

[01:23:55] For the invitation

[01:23:56] Kusama

[01:23:57] That's another sort of Launergen like thing

[01:23:59] Where like she was

[01:24:01] Like totally on the shit list right?

[01:24:03] Yeah

[01:24:04] Definitely

[01:24:05] And I'm somebody who loves Jennifer's body

[01:24:07] A lot a lot a lot a lot

[01:24:09] A lot of Jennifer's body stands coming out of the woodwork

[01:24:11] I gotta watch the movie again

[01:24:12] I saw it on a plane

[01:24:13] Yeah

[01:24:14] Many years ago or whatever

[01:24:15] I don't really remember it

[01:24:16] Well, wasn't the thing with the invitation also

[01:24:18] That her husband wrote the script

[01:24:19] Oh, is that it?

[01:24:20] Cause her husband's like a pretty successful

[01:24:22] Sort of studio screenwriter

[01:24:24] He writes on a franchise that I'm forgetting

[01:24:27] Griffin, I don't view women directors

[01:24:29] Through the lens of their husband

[01:24:31] What I was gonna say is

[01:24:32] I think he wrote the screenplay

[01:24:34] That had some heat around it

[01:24:35] And she was able to like

[01:24:37] Attach herself as a package to y'all

[01:24:39] She also directed one of the best

[01:24:41] Episodes of television this year

[01:24:44] The Haughton Catch Fire episode

[01:24:46] Where they all had the big blow out argument

[01:24:47] Yes

[01:24:48] Haughton Catch Fire is the best TV show

[01:24:50] I knew that was gonna be David Bate

[01:24:51] Gentlemen, who is your winner for best?

[01:24:54] Andrew Arnold

[01:24:55] Joe

[01:24:56] Um

[01:24:58] Oh, I almost wanted to be Andrew Arnold

[01:25:00] It's Barry Jenkins

[01:25:01] Yeah, mine's Barry Jenkins

[01:25:02] Yeah, he's good

[01:25:03] I think he's a talented director

[01:25:05] He's one to watch guys

[01:25:06] It's gonna suck when he loses the Oscar

[01:25:08] It's gonna suck when he loses the Oscar

[01:25:10] Especially I don't think I like Damien Chazelle

[01:25:13] I actually loved the speech he gave

[01:25:15] I was at the New York Film Critic Circle

[01:25:16] And I loved the speech he gave

[01:25:17] I thought it was a fantastic speech

[01:25:18] I heard it went on for an hour and a day

[01:25:20] Yeah, everyone was rolling their eyes being like

[01:25:22] Cause it's the end of the night

[01:25:23] It's been going on for a while

[01:25:24] And he's given this like proper speech

[01:25:26] That he's written

[01:25:27] Which is fine obviously

[01:25:28] Cause he knew he was gonna win

[01:25:29] You know, it's the winner's dinner

[01:25:30] Yeah

[01:25:31] And it's a terrific speech that if you can find it

[01:25:33] You should check out about the movie's influenced Lollaland

[01:25:36] You should seriously check it out

[01:25:37] I also read about it in my Lollaland piece

[01:25:40] On The Atlantic

[01:25:42] I think

[01:25:47] I think Moonlight is like

[01:25:49] Look, there's obviously a synthesis of different influences

[01:25:56] Styles

[01:25:57] You know, dramatic storytelling types

[01:25:59] Absolutely

[01:26:00] All of that

[01:26:01] But it feels like he blends it all into something

[01:26:03] That feels entirely

[01:26:05] There's things like how he uses a 360 shot

[01:26:10] In each one of those segments

[01:26:11] And what that means

[01:26:13] Right

[01:26:14] The sort of intense close ups

[01:26:15] There's sort of like one in each of the segments

[01:26:18] And what that means

[01:26:19] Yeah, Moonlight feels to me like

[01:26:21] He's borrowing words from different languages

[01:26:23] Somehow constructing an entirely new language

[01:26:25] You know, it feels like very much its own thing

[01:26:28] And I've seen the movie three times now

[01:26:30] And there's just not a moment that feels out of place

[01:26:33] Not a shot, not a line

[01:26:34] Yeah

[01:26:35] And on behalf of all that

[01:26:36] And it's also like

[01:26:37] That is, I know you talk about like

[01:26:39] Like lead in movie making

[01:26:41] Like every single scene in there

[01:26:43] Just like does what it needs to do

[01:26:45] And like moves the plot forward

[01:26:47] Or moves a character forward

[01:26:49] In such precise ways

[01:26:52] And this is a thing that's been discussed

[01:26:53] Adnazium throughout this whole season

[01:26:56] But he pointedly did not have the three actors

[01:27:00] Playing Shai Run meet each other

[01:27:01] Yeah

[01:27:02] And when I walked out of the film

[01:27:03] I went like, God, what was the rehearsal process like

[01:27:05] How much time do you spend with them

[01:27:07] Studying each other's gestures

[01:27:08] Or creating a series of combined

[01:27:10] You know, shared, common gestures

[01:27:13] And then to find that out is like

[01:27:15] Oh, that's directing

[01:27:16] Yeah, interaction is obviously crucial

[01:27:18] To why that works

[01:27:19] Not just how he directs the three actors

[01:27:21] But also how he frames them

[01:27:23] And how he matches everything with them

[01:27:25] Great job

[01:27:26] Yeah

[01:27:27] Cannot wait to see his next film

[01:27:28] I know, me too

[01:27:29] Do we want to do best picture

[01:27:30] Or do we want to now jump back

[01:27:32] And do like some other crap

[01:27:34] And say best picture for the grand finale

[01:27:36] Yeah, let's do some other crap

[01:27:37] Let's do some other crap