The Seventh Annual Blank Check Awards with Joe Reid

[00:00:08] Live from Brooklyn, New York, it's the Seventh Annual Blank Check Awards. Here at Blank Check headquarters, fans have gathered since dawn for a glimpse of their favorite podcasters. Here's Griffin Newman quickly chowing down on a sandwich off mic

[00:00:32] before sitting down to record. And there's doggy daddy David Sims struggling to find a parking space. Host of This Had Oscar Buzz, Joe Reid arrives flanked by an entourage of questionable Nicole Kidman performances. Is that Ben Hosley over there riding a dang horse down the red carpet?

[00:00:59] Join us as we honor our favorite films of 2021. It's the Blankies. For more than five years, the world has been fascinated by the Blankies. They are more than just an entertainment. They are the force that finds us together,

[00:01:39] the common link that touches the humanity of all of us. And that is why we love to listen to the Blankies. And so tonight, our podcast invites the world to celebrate the magic of listening to the Blankies. Enjoy.

[00:02:01] Sorry, I know you don't like me clapping on my shoulder. Should I've gone full accent on that? I couldn't decide if it was funny because if I did full accent, I would have given it away. Yeah, I was going to say you lose that element of

[00:02:10] support. That was my strategic decision. Yeah. Now, Connery, of course, gave it away when he walked out on stage. We were like, that's Sean Connery. He did in fact give away that he was

[00:02:18] Sean Connery. He should have been shrouded in darkness by being Sean Connery. Right. And he should have done an American accent until he said, yeah, movies. And then suddenly the lights switch. I think he's very good at American accent. Yeah, he should have done his Untouchables

[00:02:32] accent up until. Yeah. I'm a man from Chicago. The only movie I can think of where I actually feel like he put an effort into changing his voice is Marnie, a movie that is good.

[00:02:44] Sure. But his accent sticks out. Right. Like that movie is like Marnie, listen to me. I'm an American man. Like it will pop in like that. Is is the movie the same year that he presents

[00:02:55] supporting actress to Catherine Zeta-Jones? No, that's a different. That was a different year. And he kept it because it's obviously Catherine Zeta-Jones and Queen Latifah. He says Chicago twice. Yeah, which is great. And I also and he also says it. He did the movie the year after that

[00:03:13] year after that. The movie is the opening to the Return of the King. The return of the king. Oh, three awards. So would end the king, of course, as we've talked about in a recent episode

[00:03:24] was Billy. Why did he? Yes. But why wait, why did he present supporting actress to Catherine Zeta-Jones? Where was broadband? Jim Broadbent. You take your chances with these when you give Oscars to sort of older British actors like Dollars to Donuts. They're in the West End doing

[00:03:41] right then. And he's like, look, Richard Eyre called. Right. Yeah, exactly. They're not whores who are going to drop everything just to present an award to Catherine Zeta-Jones. I am demanding. Zeta-Jones was pregnant when she won. Very pregnant. I remember that. Yeah.

[00:03:56] And when she took the stage, she said, of course, my Scotsman, the Welsh, the Welsh girl getting her Oscar from this because they had done Entrapment together. Of course. And when he announced the award, he says Catherine and he doesn't even like which.

[00:04:08] Yes, I remember that. My co-worker at the time, I remember we went to work the next morning and he was like, they had sex. Yeah, just like that's how you know that they had sex when they made

[00:04:17] Entrapment. Because he like went the way he said Catherine. And I was like, you're probably not. You know, the other way I know they had sex when they made Entrapment? Watching. Watching Entrapment. Yeah. David, you were going to say?

[00:04:26] I just remember, I think there was some complaint about him saying Catherine because Kathy Bates was also nominated. Oh, yeah. And I think Kathy Bates confirmed like, I did have like a momentary. Wait, does he mean me?

[00:04:37] Right. See, my thing was so that was when they had the five boxes and then the camera would zoom into the one. Right. Classic. Yes. And his accent, I don't people know this. Sean Conner's

[00:04:49] accent was very strong and he only said Catherine. I hate taxes. Right. He shed it in his way. Where the entire whatever party I was at with my parents watching the Oscars that year,

[00:05:01] when he said, and they also go show Catherine. Right before that, someone had said, how great would it be if Queen Latifah won? And then he went Latifah. Then he went, and we went what?

[00:05:10] And the camera started zooming in. And Latifah was right next. I think you've mentioned this. I've definitely mentioned this before. Because this is the sixth annual blankies. This is the seventh annual blankies, my friend. Okay. That's why I said more than five years,

[00:05:23] because Conner said more than a hundred. And I was like, pick a round number. Yeah. This is the seventh. I always forget the seventh because. Right. Yeah. No, our first blankies was for the 2015 film year. Right. And this is the 2021 film year.

[00:05:38] So that sounds like six, but it's actually seven. This is our seventh ceremony. And then we sort of did the governor awards on Patreon last year for best of the decade. We did do it best of the

[00:05:45] decade. That's true. Right. But this is Blank Check with Griffin David, a podcast about filmography directors who have massive success early on in their career. And we get to pick the Oscars.

[00:05:58] We dress up like Siskel and Ebert and we stand on stage at like Walt Disney World. I feel like they always used to do that at Walt Disney World. Very possible. Disney Synergy? Sure. Yes.

[00:06:09] And we tell people how smart and cool and great our brains are by picking who we would give awards to. And as always, we bring in our dear friend and Oscar expert, host of This Had Oscar

[00:06:24] Buzz, which I mean, I feel like so often now with the when we do this record on the timeline of any given year, sure, becomes a sort of final attempt to give credit to someone who may be missed out

[00:06:39] on an Oscar. It's true. Or nomination that they deserve. That's not our sole goal. But as I was solidifying, finalizing my list, there was a little bit of like, I'm gonna put this person

[00:06:48] who otherwise didn't get the tip. Yep. The tip of the cap. Yep. Joe Reed. Happy to be here. Reading Ranger. I was very happy that you brought out the Reading Ranger. I was like, is Griffin gonna

[00:06:57] remember? Gotta do it. Yeah. Happy to be here. I sort of soldiered my way through a brain hemorrhage on the train here as I was screaming Shania Twain into the ether. One of the oddest

[00:07:12] moments I've experienced in this podcast where I was like, this is good. I think I start going like that don't impress me much. Right? Like I actually just start like, this is the thing. Okay. So for

[00:07:22] people who aren't on the Patreon, what better incentive to get them to plunk down $5 to say, in our commentary for the first Matrix movie, we spend seven minutes trying to remember Shania

[00:07:31] Twain's name. David is trying to give us clues. All the clues. Mr. Policeman, you got all the clues. That's the thing. You told us everything and the game just became Ben and I both know

[00:07:40] exactly what we're talking about. We know what she looks like. We know the lyrics to her songs. We picture the music videos. What was her name? And I feel like there are times where people are

[00:07:47] yelling at me through their pod catchers because I'm failing to get a fucking box office game or forgetting the title of something, but it's more abstract. This was like, this was that fucking

[00:07:59] wheel of fortune clip of feather in my lap. Feather in my lap? Feather on my cap? We had everything we needed. Yep. Yep. Well, on our podcast, we do a IMDB game. We try and guess the

[00:08:15] known force for the NBA. And so we constantly get listeners being like, I was screaming. You didn't get this one. And I was like, I know, I know. But part of the IMDB game, for people who don't

[00:08:24] listen to this, have Oscar buzz. And to those people, what are you doing? What are you doing with your time? The game is what are the top four projects that are listed as best known for on IMDB, on anyone's IMDB page that you're dealing with a wacky algorithm.

[00:08:41] Unpredictable. You're forgetting big things, but it's also like big in a weird way. We just did Diane Keaton's. You would not believe the Woody Allen movie besides Annie Hall that was on her note for Manhattan murder mystery. No, I can't even remember the title of it.

[00:08:59] It was like from 75. It was her IMDB. Yes. Yes. I can take a look. Yeah, take a look. Love and death. The one weird movie. But like of all the Diane Keaton movies to show up on the IMDB

[00:09:14] game. Yeah. It's very, very odd. But this look, things make sense here on the blankies. Always. I'm feeling with these big unruly voting bodies. Group thing, the influence of big studios pushing their product. We can't be campaign. We are

[00:09:31] immune. We cannot. By the way, thank you to Warner Brothers Home Entertainment for sending me a swag box from the Matrix Resurrections. I appreciate all the limited edition items they gave me, but we can't be bought here. Nope. Also, the Shawshank Redemption box. But that wasn't in

[00:09:46] competition this year, obviously. But what a sterling new restoration for best actor. Wait, what do you have written down here? Bob Gunton supported a good performance. Yeah. Who's better in Shawshank Robbins or Freeman Freeman? It's still Freeman, but like Robin. It's still free.

[00:10:00] But it's it's it's certainly Robin should have been nominated. I think it is. I it's probably Robin's best performance. Right. Well, I'm a big fan of like Bull Durham. I like like no, I'm too.

[00:10:11] I mean, my math is like, is it Bull Durham? Is it Shawshank or do you really zag and go like it's high fidelity? You know, he's really good in. He's very funny and high fidelity actually. Get your

[00:10:21] patchouli stink out of my store. I realize he doesn't even say that line. But when Carrie went, sorry, what Cusack says, patchouli stink. I've never forgotten that. Oh, and it was in the either the trailer, the TV spots. Yeah, because I remember that sequence of them just fantasizing

[00:10:36] about fantasies. Yeah, I really like his performance in Jacob's Ladder, which is a goofy movie. Sure. But he's so locked in there. And I love the player. Yeah. Well, and also when you talk about like, yeah, the player's great. I just think I think crushing better

[00:10:53] performance, although I may be like, it's a good performance. I haven't seen the Shawshank Redemption in a long time. Here's the thing for me. Shawshank Redemption last 30 to 45 minutes. 10 best movies of all time. Like the IMDB status, I totally agree with for the last 40 minutes. I

[00:11:08] like the entire movie. Yeah. The last 40 minutes are transcendent. Shawshank is one of those movies that benefited in the popular culture from being the IMDB number one movie and really suffered

[00:11:19] among people got really mad about it being cheesy, which it is. And like also the fact that Darabont never made another like great movie until like you can argue for the missed. But like the Green Mile

[00:11:32] and the Majestic both stink. Yeah. But Green Mile was such a big hit. It was so well regarded at the time. Yeah. Yeah. But definitely there was he did not have this sort of like Francis Ford Coppola

[00:11:42] S career that had been promised or whatever. I just want to acknowledge. Introduce our guest. I know you said. I said reading Rain Joe. I said Joe Reed. I'm sorry. I was just. No, no, no, no.

[00:11:53] I got I got the basic place setting out of the way. But I do want to say for people who are enjoying this sort of side tangent to best Tim Robbins performances, talking about previous Oscar

[00:12:03] ceremonies, things that have been annoying that we forgot on episode records in the past. We have dropped four or five categories from this year's ceremony. Yes. In order to allow more time for

[00:12:14] these types of moments which we find tend to go viral. Right. We want these sort of muscle and moments for our blankies. Yeah, absolutely. Cut out the moments where the people are walking up to the stage because clearly that's been the problem. Boring. I watch. I'm turning

[00:12:28] over the channel. Walking. Get out of here. Take your time. Production design winner. Yesterday, as we're recording this, they released the whatever top eight contenders for the popular Twitter voted Oscar and so many avenues of just embarrassing minimata. The depth thing

[00:12:45] is just depressed. The death. That's like straight up depressing that there are people out there power voting for Johnny Depp. Right. I don't believe any of those people have seen that movie. Because the Cinderella, the Cinderella army. I think they genuinely like those movies. Well,

[00:13:01] I don't think the Depp army has rented minimata. Well, and also when you're dealing with really shouldn't talk too much about pop. We're not stand. That's all we're going to say. Pop stands should not be under it. Like Camila Cabello and whatever. Like that's a whole other

[00:13:13] thing. But like the fact that the power of the dog is then the top eight. Like if the power of the dog wins and after all of this rigmarole, your best picture winner and your popular Oscar winner

[00:13:23] are the same. Yeah, I would die. Very funny. But also it wins and then Cinderella wins. Then you're just like, what is this? Well, right. Here's my question. Yeah. Why did they throw

[00:13:35] this to Twitter? Right. I was going to say, I said this to Alison when I was talking with her this morning. Yeah. Even blank check finally was like, maybe let's take the fan voting off

[00:13:47] a bad podcast run by idiots. Right. And then the Oscars were like, let's do a popular award. How do we decide popularity? I don't know. Hashtags on Twitter. Yeah. Any idiot, any put a poll on your site. Right. Of course, these things are always gameable. Right. You don't

[00:14:00] want just the Twitter. That's your box. The absolute worst possible vector for that. And that is all the more evidence that he's taking it. That's fine. Also, like, fantastic. Yeah. A best case scenario. But yeah, all the more evidence that the blankies now have more

[00:14:17] integrity than the Academy Awards. Welcome. Welcome to the most high integrity awards. Yes. Yes. In film. I mean, the globes, they're done. Stick a fork in it. Well, to return to the movies last year, obviously a weird ceremony. Oh, I listened back to it the other day. Haunting.

[00:14:34] It was haunting. I was so depressed. You were really, you were going through it. You were really in a bad place. I was. It fucked me up too, because that was one of the last. It had

[00:14:42] been a whole year. Right. It was just like that sort of demarcation. I also had a hard out that day to go to a cardiologist appointment. Like, no one was feeling good. Yeah, it was bad. It's

[00:14:53] so it was it's so nice to be like to look at my list and be like, because I saw the movie early in the year. I split it into like streaming versus theatrical viewing in terms of logging. And it's

[00:15:04] it's nice to just see how many fucking movies I saw in theaters this year. Yeah. And and in a very surprising turn of events going over my list, very few nominations for movies I watched on

[00:15:16] streaming. Yeah. If any. Which you largely avoided, I would say. I did. You like really try. I remember you you would the new Netflix movies. You would try and go see them. And I'll say a couple of my

[00:15:25] blind spots for the year that are embarrassing are because I refuse to watch them on streaming and I have not gone around to seeing them in theaters. There are a couple there are a couple

[00:15:32] big movies I missed that I feel a lot of shame about. What are you going to do? But I'm also about to go on a cruise ship with limited Wi-Fi. So I loaded them all onto my iPad and I'm going

[00:15:41] to watch all the movies I need to sleep on a boat. You'll be will you be on a boat? I'll be on a boat. Well, dresses. Watto. Water one water. But you're not going to be dressed as one of the whole

[00:15:50] time. Right now, unfortunately, contractually, you got to got to hit the buffet. They ever spot you out of costume. You get docked. They throw me off the boat. Where's your ticket? This ticket says Waddo the Toydarian. Nonsense. Nonsense. Imagine this being your first episode. Where should we

[00:16:08] start? That's a good question. We usually start with a supporting actor. I feel like much like the Oscars themselves. You can pick if you want to do act. Last year, we started with supporting actress. I'll tell you that. Well, then we should start with supporting actor. Hey,

[00:16:24] I love it. Kind of like how, you know, the monarch's face on British currency. This is going to be a real short tangent faces in an opposite direction. Editing just got cut out.

[00:16:34] Go on. No, we want the tangerine. The Oscars are like, yeah, we can't do editing this year. And then I take the stage. And I'm like, so the monarch's face always faces in the opposite

[00:16:47] direction from the last monarch. OK, but but so so George, I'm sorry, George V faced in a certain direction. OK, and then he died and the throne passed to his son, Edward VIII. But Edward VIII

[00:16:59] was like, well, I don't like my face from that other side. Literally was so vain, was like, I want my part. So he was going to defy tradition and face in the same direction as his dad. Yeah.

[00:17:08] And of course, he almost immediately abdicated the throne because he wanted to marry a divorced woman. Right. And George VI took the throne. And so George VI had his face face in the same

[00:17:17] direction as his dad, as if pretending like, well, my my my brother's face was going to face the other way. Wow. So and that's why that he was like, I'm going to maintain tradition, even though

[00:17:28] there are like rare coins that were minted for Edward VIII that you can get your hands on where he's facing in the same direction. I'm just I'm confused. How would you know that? Oh, here we go.

[00:17:40] The Lifetime Achievement Award for the bit. Yeah. So but speaking of facing one direction. So, you know, the whole thing about how Barbara Streisand has her good side. She always wants

[00:17:51] to be seen on her good side when she was on the Rosie O'Donnell show and on Oprah. They made them switch the set around so that she would be facing the other direction. So I'm watching one of those

[00:18:00] Oscars family albums from when they gathered all these living Oscar winners on the stage at the Oscars. And they spent 10, 15 minutes just to like read names. It's glorious. My favorite. Love it. And sure enough, Barbara Streisand is faced fully sideways as she's sitting there as they

[00:18:15] pan by her. I was just like, that is commitment to a personal style. Good for her. Very good for She has a underground mall. Yeah, she does. We talked about it. And actually don't even remember

[00:18:25] which episode. Christine, the movie about the killer car. Duh. Might be one of our top committing to the bit. Well, in the world, I mean, has an underground. Yeah. Like always on like has

[00:18:39] the good side. I mean, I love it. This is incredible. Streisand wins your March Madness like you can talk about the mall to your heart's content. We could talk. We would have to

[00:18:49] we go. We could do like a podcast, the ride downtown. Yes. Ordeal where we do an episode for every store at the mall. Fantastic. I don't know. I think we're going to do it.

[00:18:58] All right. So in the interest of bringing pageantry to the blankies at a time when pageantry is sorely lacked, got to go viral this year. We've talked. I'm sure we've talked about before, if not on like then certainly off the two years that the Oscars did acting category

[00:19:15] presentations where they brought out five. The first year it was five former winners in the category. The next year was like five people with like a relationship to the nominees to sort of

[00:19:25] the second time. Did they have to be winners or were they just not? They did. No, because it was the first time it was when she presented to Streep and I presented to the right. Yes. Right. But the

[00:19:35] first year that the oh eight Oscars was five Oscar winners tangential at best relationships like Goldie Hawn is giving her ode to Raji P. Henson, but it's great. That's right. So randomness, I think was part of the Kevin Klein, Alan Arkin, Cuba Gooding Jr. Robert Downey Jr.

[00:19:53] is the one I remember a lot. Right. And then the other two. Oh, Joel Gray. I sort of read the best five person lineup in its weirdness. Yeah, it was fantastic. It was great.

[00:20:02] So in the interest of that, I sort of delved back into blankies history and I procured a five person panel to present each award made up of former blankies winners. Wow. Anyone had we had chosen

[00:20:18] as our top of the year. So for best supporting actor, it has to be a blankie winner. It has to be a blankie winner. Only winners. Right. Next year might be friends of winners. Right.

[00:20:27] So picture the stage, the whatever, the scrim, the five survivors, five figures playing the shadow in the back. Yes, exactly. Best supporting actor. All right. So emerging from the back of the stage, Mahershala Ali, Willem Dafoe, Alden Ehrenreich, Mark Rylance and Michael Shannon.

[00:20:55] Best supporting actor. An incredible crew. Right. I'm happy to see Alden back. I remind people that Michael Shannon won four checks notes the night of. The night before. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He was your winner. Yes. Yes. I remember what that movie is called. Stand

[00:21:11] behind that win. Mahershala won best supporting actor for Moonlight for me and you. Yes. Griffin. And then Michael. I'm sorry. Then your supporting actor was Alden Ehrenreich. That was a real coin

[00:21:23] toss here between those two performances. And then who else have we got? I'm sorry. Dafoe has won Oh, Dafoe has won twice. Because I gave him Lighthouse and David gave him Florida. David gave him Florida Project. Okay. Yeah, that's right. And Rylance, of course,

[00:21:36] that Bridge of Spies. Right. We love that Bridge of Spies. Yes, I gave him Bridge of Spies. Yeah. I did. Smart. A good performance in my opinion. You know what I like about that performance?

[00:21:50] How good it is? The acting. It's the secret weapon. He brings the acting. The acting's so good in his performance. So here we are. And of course, I will acknowledge I'll be reading out

[00:22:00] the blankies. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Voters results as well. But they they do a 10. Right. Supporting and 10 lead thing. They do, you know, gender neutral categorizing, which we do just because we're imitating the Oscars in their infinite wisdom. But it is time for the best supporting

[00:22:17] actor. We're going to talk about the cinema of 2021. Yes. Oscar nominees. I just want to say I don't have any qualifiers like I do usually in these years where I go, I just want to say

[00:22:27] right. There is one guy who was really my number six who I caught and it was really painful for me. And I caught him solely because I felt it was unlikely that

[00:22:41] he would not be picked by one, if not both. And I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping I won't rue the day. That's all I want. I'm also going to read out the Oscar nominee. OK, very good.

[00:22:51] Kieran Hines in Belfast, Troy Kotzer in Coda, who I think is probably going to win. Feels like a lot. Weirdly, now, like now, yeah. Jesse Plemons in Power of the Dog, Cody Smith McPhee

[00:23:01] in Power of the Dog. And I won't speak the last one aloud. J.K. Simmons and being the Ricardo's. I do love J.K. Simmons. I terrible do too. It falls into that Alan Arkin Argo category

[00:23:14] for me where I'm like, if you're nominating that you should nominated literally every other performance he's given him. To me, it's also kind of like the Michael Shannon like nominations where I'm like, that's the one you like from him. That's the one that I will say.

[00:23:26] Having having watched at a guild screening, the people loved it. I know really every single one is type of voter was very given. And I don't think it's a bad performance. I think he's I mean,

[00:23:39] I like that movie, but I'm like, I think he's better in Tomorrow War than he is in being the Ricardo's. I think he might be. But like I Patriots Day is a better supporting J.K. Simmons performance.

[00:23:52] Who have you chosen? Yeah, I have chosen. Don't regret chopping the one guy off. I have chosen Bradley Cooper for the motion picture, Liquorice Pizza. Benito del Toro for the motion picture, The French Dispatch. Jeffrey Wright, The French Dispatch. Very good performance. Yes.

[00:24:12] Anders Danielson Lai, The Worst Person in the World. I think it's Lee, but I'm not entirely sure. Well, I'm stupid and thank you for making me look stupid. Those Norwegian names can be a little tricky. And my fifth nominee, Jeremy Irons, House of Gucci. Your man. You've been

[00:24:27] back in that train the whole time. I've been back in that train for a long time. Very good. Nice. Should I go? Please. All right. My five are Pullman Domingo for Zola. Okay, thank you. He was

[00:24:37] my number seven. Okay. Got it. Got you covered. Mike Feist for West Side Story. Simon Helberg for Annette. Great performance. Yeah. Anders Danielson Lee for The Worst Person in the World.

[00:24:53] And I'm pivoting Alex Wolfe for Pig. Wow. Alex Wolfe for Pig is a good performer. He was on my long list. Who are you cutting? Cody Smith McPhee. Who like, we had to cut him. But I love him.

[00:25:07] But also, I think the longer we've done this and the more people listen to the show, the more we're like, if the guy got an Oscar nomination, we don't have to put him in there.

[00:25:14] Um, this is our guy. I don't think I have. Let's see. Give me your five, David. All right. My five are Anders Danielson Lee and The Worst Person in the World. Mike Feist and West Side Story. So

[00:25:24] I share that. Those are my two. Ben Affleck in The Last Duel. Very good. Vincent Landon in Tatan. Now, I know we've had a supporting lead combo about him, but I haven't been supporting, obviously, because he shows up halfway. We might discuss this later. Right. 100%. And Richard Ayawade

[00:25:40] in The Souvenir Part Two. Aha. Fuck. I mean, I know you're sad about that, but it's a good nomination. No. So there were two bubble guys I cut. Yeah. OK. One was Coleman Domingo. I'm very

[00:25:50] happy he was represented. The other one is one that we've talked about a lot. I think we both were like, can we fucking put him on there? Wait, is it the same as me? I wonder. No, maybe not.

[00:25:59] Who who is your cut? Mine. So ever since I saw the movie, I'm like, well, Andrew Garfield's making my supporting actor for Spider-Man because I think he's so much better than he needs to be

[00:26:08] in that movie. I agree. I think he's wonderful in that. But then, like, I feel like the culture has amply rewarded him. I think so too. And he's doing fine. Yeah. And then my other one was

[00:26:17] Skylar Gisando for Licorice Pizza. An incredible pin. I mean, briefly in that movie, but it's maybe my favorite thing about it. I also really like the pin performance. I like almost every supporting performance in that movie. But I think you're talking about Lambert Wilson. No. No. OK.

[00:26:31] OK. OK. I was predicting you were going to put Lambert Wilson on. Ayawade kind of took his spot. The kind of like, you know, 10 minutes, you know, hits five three pointers type performance. I think there is a character actor so selfless, so consistent, so strong that.

[00:26:50] Kay Simmons. This is gonna be one of the jackass guys. I think so often it's hard to pick a performance that's specifically worth lauding for him because he just is part of the fucking ensemble. 100 percent. A Bill Camp type. Right. And this year,

[00:27:04] you and I both talked about like, fuck, it would be good if it was his year. And I was sort of mounting the argument. I cut him at the last fucking second. John Bernthal for King Richard.

[00:27:14] He was he was he would certainly be in my tent like he was a he was in the mix for me. Richard. It's a great. And then I'm like, you give him a bump on those wish me dead. Like I'm just like

[00:27:25] you add in every time he's fucking been on screen. Give him a bump just right on strength. Yeah. He deserves at least best windbreaker. Maybe have a year of the year. I think that is

[00:27:36] a really good performance that I'm it's not like I'm surprised that it didn't get Oscar traction. Sure. Because it's been kind of a weird year. Yeah. Yeah. King Richard obviously ended up doing

[00:27:45] well with the Oscars, but like I feel like they just put their chips elsewhere. Yeah. It's also the Oscars very rarely do the sort of brief supporting performance that isn't highly emotional. It's not highly emotional. It's showy because he's funny and he's doing an accent.

[00:28:02] Right. Got a mustache. But it's not. But like if it's Beatrice straight, it's like it's a it's a very, very hard. It's a very emotional thing. He doesn't have a nominal Oscar clip, but it is such

[00:28:12] a good performance and the supporting work. And I'm also just feel like everybody likes that guy. He's he's in there at some point. I do think he's probably going to have a J.K. Simmons moment. I

[00:28:23] think it's probably be 10 years away, but he's going to be one of those guys where suddenly he gets the Broadbent Award and everyone's like, we should have given it to him six times already.

[00:28:30] I just have to have Mike Feist in there. Oh, yeah. And I have to have Affleck in there. No, look, I'm not begrudging any of our picks. I just think this was a tough category. This was

[00:28:41] my most competitive category. I just think this is one of those things where it's like this is this is Burntall's problem. He's so selfless that he always goes like, I'll step aside. They deserve it more. You know, in your mind, you're the character he's playing

[00:28:52] in that movie. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Trying to think of some obviously, Cody, I think Clemens is terrific and dog. You know, Cam Collins shout out Cam Collins past and future guest. Had Ralph Innocent on his New York Film Critics Circle ballot for Green Knight. I really loved

[00:29:09] that. I'm just looking at I'm trying to think of other folks. I mean, I'm sorry. Who was that in that film? He's the Green Knight. He's a titular. Oh, shit. That's a cool nomination.

[00:29:22] You know, come on. Well, you know who was on my ballot for a while? Who? And I regret cutting him. But I kind of was like Ed Harris in The Lost Daughter. I think it's such a good performance.

[00:29:32] He has two killer scenes. Lost Daughter is still one of my blind spots. You haven't seen it. Yeah. You're going to love his hat. Yeah. I'm sure he dances at one point. Question, David,

[00:29:40] is Ed Harris still very hot in that film? Yeah, of course he is. I mean, it looks like the mountain from New Hampshire, but yeah, he's hot. Yeah. My God. That face just gets

[00:29:50] craggier and craggier. You know who was on my ballot? Shout out to anyone as well. I'm sort of thinking about sort of cutting. Yeah. I mean, my next two were Bernthal and Coleman. Yeah. Domingo. They're both incredible performances. Coleman Domingo, another guy who I just think is

[00:30:03] pretty much always great. He seems like he's one of those precipice people too. Yes. Where it feels like in the next few years, he's probably going to get his first Oscar nomination if things

[00:30:12] go the way they should because like he's he's on the rise. Like respect for him is really, really for you. And he's six seasons of the fucking walking dead. He was so great on in

[00:30:22] Ma Rainey last year. And yeah, he was very good. Alex Wolfe was was in my time as well. I'm another one of those were like I I mean, that movie in general was not what I expected it was going to

[00:30:37] be walking into the movie. And I think I was I liked it so much more because of that. But his character, particularly you see him at first, he's got the car and he's got the suit or whatever.

[00:30:47] And it's just like, I know this shithead. I know exactly what this guy is going to be. And then he's not. And and Wolf really carries that out really well. And also,

[00:30:57] I wanted him on my list because of a little bit of trivia that we can get to later on in the movie. Just looking through my list, if I can just shout out a couple more quick ones that that I

[00:31:08] cut. I think Woody Norman's like an incredible child performance. I think it's a very good child performance. That movie, that movie doesn't totally work for me. Yeah. My child performance that I had at the beginning of the year on my ballot that sort of got taken over

[00:31:22] is is Jupe is Noah Jupe from Quiet Place Part Two, who I think is a good actor. The other thing I want to shout out, I mean, a movie that already just like doesn't exist, completely forgotten and

[00:31:35] not has not made much of an argument for staying in anyone's mind. But two performances I think are phenomenal. Ray Liotta. And Leslie Odom Jr., both in many sense of Newark, I think that movie

[00:31:49] really fails Odom Jr. No, no, no, no. And it drops out of character entirely. I really do love the Liotta performance. Yeah, I think Odom's performance is kind of incredible. And in a

[00:31:59] movie that actually supported him. Yeah, he's doing real kind of like 70s Lumet character actor work. And then Liotta's yeah, his scenes and that are just fucking dynamite. My outlier is Helberg with

[00:32:12] Annette. But I don't know if he was in that. He's on my long list. That was on my that was on my 10. Yeah, he's so good in that movie. I really like Alex Hassel in the Tragedy of Macbeth playing Ross.

[00:32:25] Is he turtleneck guy? Yeah, the weird Glowery guy. Ross who is sort of a non character in Macbeth. He's just present in a lot of scenes. And he plays him. Yes. Like he's this like really intense,

[00:32:35] super turn Cody double agent. He's the one I walked away from that movie. Yeah, he's the one I walked away from that movie being like, I'm so impressed by that guy. Who are some others that

[00:32:45] I'm forgetting? I'm worried I'm forgetting someone good. I mean, I really like Matt Damon and no sudden move. I mean, just sort of the classic Matt Damon thing of like, here he is for 10 minutes.

[00:32:56] Being a jerk. Griffey thinking anyone? I mean, we do shout out Lambert Wilson. Right? I resurrected the one to punch. I have I have a shout out. I want to do a new type of award. And then I think

[00:33:08] we should talk about who we will nominate for a second Richard Jenkins in the human. Yeah, he's on my really good performance. One of those weird kind of like, I get why this got no Oscar attention

[00:33:17] for sure. The movie just Yeah, was not really pitched at them. Yeah, but it's right up their alley. It's exactly what you want. Jenkins. Yeah, the steadiest of hands. Oh, you know who else is

[00:33:26] on my long list? Stanley Tucci and worth a movie that nobody really watched when it dropped on Netflix. Yeah, they didn't really publicize it. But I think he's quite good in that I struggle

[00:33:35] with that movie a little bit. I think he's quite good. Yeah. This is this is a new category I want to introduce. It's not categories. It's sort of like a new kind of side on horrific. Okay. Yeah,

[00:33:45] yeah. It's it's the Vin Diesel award. And it's not what you think it is. Okay, take you to the seventh blankies to introduce a Vin Diesel. This is it's gonna be an interesting I don't think

[00:33:55] this is what anyone's expecting it to be. All right. Okay. It's the award for the person I was most rooting for to give a nomination worthy performance dedicated to Vin Diesel and Billy

[00:34:06] Lynn's long halftime walk where I'm looking at the cast. And I'm going fuck this feels like that's the kind of character you know, I prominence in the story nine months ahead of time where I was

[00:34:16] like right Vin Diesel is gonna get nominated for absolutely watch watch. Absolutely. Here's the one I was quietly pulling for all year and I do think he's actually good in the movie. What it asked him

[00:34:27] to do is a little bit silly. And I think the movie just fails in a way that that doesn't make it transcend my Vin Diesel award for performance I most wish I wanted to nominate is Christopher

[00:34:39] Lloyd in the tender bar. Yeah, I mean, look, I want to Christopher Lloyd to have a fucking late career Oscar worthy performance him getting cast in that movie was exciting. It's like you say,

[00:34:50] he's not bad in the movie at all. But it's just kind of nothing part. Right? And I sit there can I talk myself into this? That would be that would be a bit I couldn't I couldn't but that's

[00:34:59] the Vin Diesel award. So that's, that's a new tool we have in our arsenal. Yeah, performance you were hoping you liked enough to nominate. Yeah, let's talk about who we did. Now. Yeah, who'd you

[00:35:08] nominate? Bradley Cooper, licorice pizza. I mean, you did the Skylar gazando nomination. But this is the thing I'm gonna I'm gonna stump for a little more this year. It's become a little more of a sticking point for me. Okay. Let's make supporting performances real supporting performances again,

[00:35:23] right? Yeah. And this is where I sometimes get into this category slipperiness of bumping people up to co leads or whatever. Yeah, but I do think we've just gotten very used to second leads being

[00:35:33] supporting performances. I will say this. I think the Oscars did a fairly good job on this this year. I think this year was pretty good. With the exception of the two power the dog nominations.

[00:35:43] Now Plemons is undoubtedly supporting he drops out of that movie. Yeah, Cody is not a total stretch. But it's one of those things where you're like younger would never nominate him for

[00:35:52] right. But they did an okay job on that. And you know, concert Simmons Hines, those are supporting. I imagine despite it being then not nominating Bradley Cooper is banana. Well, he's right up there. Right? Right. You know, if Tommy says the president of Hollywood, Bradley Cooper is maybe

[00:36:06] the alderman at this point. He's a governor. So they have some weird relationship. It's weird. But that's why we had this conversation. Yeah, tons and tons of noms. But that's why I'm saying

[00:36:17] like alderman. Like he is a I think he's in the cabinet. He's somewhere he's been elected. No, he's like Carrie Coon in the Gilded Age where they're like, you can come in here.

[00:36:27] But we don't like you. It just felt like such a slam dunk. And it is one of those things that a term I use the thermostat performance where like, yes, an actor enters a movie and just

[00:36:37] completely changes the temperature of it. And he is obviously not on screen for that long. But there is this like 15 minute stretch that is haunted by his character in which he pops in and out. And until you're like relieved of him, until the movie does a crossfade,

[00:36:52] anytime he's not on screen, you're feeling the energy. And then when you catch the little glimpse of him walking down the street, asking the girl if she likes peanut butter sandwiches at the end, what is it that he said? Is it does he say that you're

[00:37:03] from the streets or does he say you're a killer like me? I can't be you're from the streets. You're from the streets. Right. The classic right. John Peter's thing of like, right. We're the same.

[00:37:12] That's the thing. Here I just got front load. He's my winner. But because I'm now talking about him too much. You hear all those John Peter stories that are so bananas. Right. And Kevin Smith doing his like 40 minute Superman returns monologue or Superman lives monologue and all

[00:37:29] that sort of shit. And it's one of the things where you go, this guy feels unplayable. Right. How is there any way to actually depict the way people describe this guy? Right. This behavior seems unreasonable. The way people explain him talking doesn't make sense. And that first scene,

[00:37:42] when he fucking comes out of the house and he gets a movie star introduction where the camera's on him from behind and you've seen the trailer. So, you know, the whole movie is building up to this

[00:37:50] to some degree. What is Bradley Cooper doing in this movie? And then he just has like five minutes where he talks stream of consciousness. Yeah. And pivot subjects and shifts tones. I mean, like hair painting. I'm speeding you up, though, because I'm realizing it's the same thing that

[00:38:04] happens every year. It's the happy birthday sign we do on this. Yeah. Yeah. 30 minutes. And by actor. Yeah, I don't know where Denzel Washington. Let's keep going. He's my winner. Benicio del Toro and Joe was a late cut for me. They give to the best performances

[00:38:19] in any Wes Anderson movie. Jeffrey Wright almost made mine. I want right. Is incredible in that movie. I need to rewatch. That is the segment I resonated with the least, although I was just

[00:38:29] exhausted. Sure. With that movie by the third segment. But he's so good. And he's someone who can be I love Jeffrey. Right. But he can give you Jeffrey right out of the can. Yeah. And that's

[00:38:41] not him. You know, but you know what I mean? Like Jeffrey writes in the Batman even coming, you know, like you're kind of like this is this is the Jeffrey Wright I asked for. Yeah. Blowing

[00:38:48] my mind. It's right. You know, Andrew Danielson Lee, I'm not gonna talk about because you two guys will cover it. The last guy I just want to throw out a moment for is Jeffrey.

[00:38:56] Jeremy Irons, who I think is the guy. Right. Because that movie is like a study of different acting styles. Very much so. Many ways. Right. And for me, at different levels of success. Yeah. I

[00:39:06] think he's the one guy who is successfully able to bridge every different movie. Like, I think you watch the different scenes he has and him against Pacino, him against driver him against

[00:39:16] Leto. Yeah. Him against. It's a really good scene. He's able to be on the same wavelength as whoever he's working with. Yeah. I think it's incredibly tragic performance. It's like a perfect late

[00:39:26] Irons who's just been on this kind of incredible resurgence the last five years. I really like the performance. That's a movie that I sort of grew impatient with as I watched it. And I

[00:39:35] came out of it. He's in the first hour. Once got a lot of performance that I ended up really liking. The most was Leto because he was doing what I ended up feeling like I wanted from the

[00:39:46] movie, which is absolute insanity. Like I wanted everybody to just be just off the chain. Irons has just enough tongue in cheek for me where I feel like he's in on the joke but isn't selling

[00:39:57] out the integrity of the thing. Sure, sure, sure. And I just feel like no one else was shouting at the performance. Yeah. Okay. I see the floor. Well, my winner is Mike Feist because

[00:40:07] it's it's it shouldn't almost shouldn't be that I walk out of West Side Story being like, you know who I love is that riff and yet he connects so well immediately. Immediately you're you're locked in with him. Stick with him throughout the whole thing. By the time

[00:40:25] the end of that character, I'm so emotional. And he's just this insane talent that kind of comes out of nowhere. Obviously, I had seen him in Dear Evan Hansen. I said I Tony nominated for that.

[00:40:39] Very good. But he's not even in that very much like it was kind of surprising that he got that time. The one song. It was surprising because he was that good. Yes, because it was one of those

[00:40:47] things was like they're probably not going to fit him in. Right. Well, and then when the trailer for West Side Story came out and we all sort of chalked it up to the fact that they were trying

[00:40:54] to hide Ansel Elgort because it was like Mike Feist is kind of the star of the West Side Story. Well, you know what? He pops all over this and then you watch the movie and you're like, I get

[00:41:02] it. I get it now. I know why they did it because he's just he's he's really fantastic. He's also the person that Ansel Elgort has best chemistry with in the entire all of Ansel's best. Well,

[00:41:13] they're they're they're cool sequence where they dance. Yeah. So it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. He's so good. He's he's genuinely you do feel threat from him, but he's also just such a wounded little boy.

[00:41:26] Yep. But also just such an odd energy. I mean, I feel like it's like how you describe seeing him on Dear Evan Hansen on stage of just like this isn't how I would think you would. This is the

[00:41:37] bully. Right. Huh? Like this and similar energy of like where you're like, this kid seems haunted. Right. Oh, right. Yeah. And yet it's funny that his one musical number in Dear Evan Hansen is

[00:41:49] you know, the the song where he's dead. But right. Evan's writing in his voice that in the movie is staged so horrifyingly that that's when people I think switch off. They're just like, what is this suicide comedy thing? Also, it works better. Talk about a great career decision

[00:42:04] you make from. I'm not going to get out of that movie. Yeah. This movie that that movie cast like a total hunk in that role, which is and it doesn't really work. Yeah. Not that have

[00:42:13] you seen Dear Evan Hansen? I have not. I still haven't seen it. I've been I almost now now that it didn't get nominated for anything, I was sort of wondering if it might get a song nomination.

[00:42:24] Now I'm saving it for when we do. Oh, you got it. Like, I don't want to see it until who else have you got? You're in the winner is Feist. My winner's Feist. I mean, Coleman Domingo

[00:42:33] and Zola we talked about Helberg I mentioned. And then so those two scenes he's got the monologue where it's circling around him and then like the big scene with Driver where like,

[00:42:45] he's so good. So good. I didn't know he had it comes out of nowhere. Right. Exactly. We're all laughing. Hey, what a weird big. Yeah. What's he doing to get above the title? And and I again,

[00:42:57] I walk away from that. I love Driver in that movie too. But yeah, Helberg's my best in show there. And then yeah, Anders is handsome doctor man. Well, so let's let's sort of you David, because

[00:43:08] then we can sort of best supporting pull all. And I'm sorry. Let me get back to you on that. Are there other dicks that I'm forgetting? I think there are. Well, you see. Right. The

[00:43:19] I mean, punctuation laps up of his flaccid penis, though, at the end of a devastating moment for him. I think it's just standing there. Application of a of a dick in a supporting dick. Great Dick

[00:43:30] Anders Danielson Lee, who's a good actor, a very good actor who I've seen. He he's he's I've made he made my ballot for Oslo August 31st. Another Yoko Trio movie. He's also this very, you know,

[00:43:43] internal upset. Yeah. You know, he's playing a guy who's near suicide. Like, you know, and he's the killer in twenty two. We don't talk about that. I really almost hate that he took that role because

[00:43:53] he's a working doctor. Yeah. He talks in all these interviews about how it's so difficult to, you know, balance careers. Yeah. And then, yeah, he's in that awful Paul Greengrass movie about the Norwegian shooting massacre. Yeah. As the shooter. Yeah. You only really see him in court scenes.

[00:44:09] Right. And it's like, yeah, they cast a really respected Norwegian actor here, but it's sort of like, what the fuck is this? I forgot that movie exists. I liked it better than you liked it. But

[00:44:19] I get it. Yeah. Yeah. But he's mostly an actor. He's in personal shopper. He's in Berkman Island, obviously. He's in Berkman Island this year playing a similar sort of like boyfriend, ex-boyfriend you have regrets about. Yeah. Although he's sort of fantasy character in that

[00:44:36] movie. But he's in all of Trier's movies except for maybe Thelma and he's in the Oslo movies. And he's so good in this. You had him, too. We all had him. Yeah. He's the one we share. Yeah.

[00:44:48] I mean, look, he's good the whole movie and then the last chunk of it. And we don't need to get into spoiler. We don't need to get into talk. But there is a monologue in which one of the things

[00:44:59] he invokes is how much of his life he spent investing into objects and putting power into objects and feeling like he needed the power of those things surrounding him in his home. That felt like a direct attack on me was eviscerating. And I saw it with someone

[00:45:13] who thought that I was sobbing uncontrollably. And in reality, at the beginning of that monologue, my nose started bleeding profusely. So I was trying to pull my nose, but also tearing up.

[00:45:23] Sure. I was like trying to look because I could tell the movie was in its final stretch. But it was one of those things where I said, like, I cannot leave this theater.

[00:45:31] Yeah. So I'm like choked up and choked up on blood. And it was one of the main reasons I had to see the movie a second time. Like you told me right away. I was like, I could give that real

[00:45:42] thought. And it's just it's just a fucking knockout. He plays her boyfriend in the movie, to be clear, her sort of big boyfriend at the start of the movie who's older than her. He's

[00:45:50] a cartoonist. He's kind of cool. He's kind of Gen X. But he's also kind of like, look, I don't you know, I'm doing my thing. And you're sort of like they settle into a run like a real

[00:46:00] asshole. Am I going to realize the longer this movie goes on that he's like a big problem? Right. But he's not. He's not. He's just, you know, a slightly over it kind of slightly

[00:46:09] so complicated. Yeah. And he has this great scene where he kind of like gets canceled. Yeah. On like a radio show. Yes. And when you're watching, he plays it so perfectly, where he's defending himself and like it's kind of just like out of step with the

[00:46:26] questions and out of step with. Well, and he'll like make a good point, but then he'll use the wrong exact. And you're watching it. And she's the main character is

[00:46:33] watching it at the gym and you feel the way she feels, which is just like, I know what he means. Right. He's oh, he shouldn't say, you know, I know he's and it's a very relatable,

[00:46:43] well-communicated moment. Yeah. He is my winner. Yeah. Also, just he was my number two winner, I think. Who else did you have? Well, you had Alex Wolf. I had Alex Wolf. I mentioned yeah, performance and just a good actor. Really? It takes really interesting roles. He never gets

[00:47:00] mentioned when you talk about like the best actors of that sort of really good hereditary. Obviously, I mean, he was he was my winner, I think, for hereditary to get an acronym for yes, he was

[00:47:10] hereditary. You did. I think it is funny how much like a decade ago everyone was like, now, well, that's the guy. It's Spider-Man shortlist. He's doing a fucking John Green. Yeah. And then Alex

[00:47:24] Wolf has just steadily worked with all these first time directors. That's true. He picks very odd roles. Yeah, right. I mean, he's really good in bad education. Patriot's day. He's incredible

[00:47:32] in. Yep, he is. I mean, it's crazy casting, crazy casting. But yes, he's even good in the Jumanji movie. You know what I mean? It's like one of those things. He's like, he's like, yeah, he's become surprisingly reliable. Yeah. Wait, Joe, who am I missing from your ballot?

[00:47:48] Domingo Feist, Helberg, Danielson, Lai and Wolf. And who's your winner? Mike Feist. Yeah. So I had on top of everyone discussed Ben Affleck in the last duel, this kind of insane

[00:48:01] snub. He's having a time. It's one of those things where it's just he has had a good time. He's like he's almost playing him. He's not playing himself, but he's almost he's playing a version that we

[00:48:12] of him that we think exists. Like fuck boy, Ben Affleck. Everything people find uncomfortable about Ben Affleck or at least perceived to be a problem with. Yeah. And to me also, it's like

[00:48:22] the brilliance. One of the many brilliant things about that movie is, you know, the the difficult decision that a lot of period movies sometimes will make of like drop the accents. Who cares? Right. Talk how you like. Right. And sometimes like in a Valkyrie, it doesn't really work.

[00:48:36] Right. You know, especially if it's like some of them are American and some are British. Like, you know, like Alexander famously has really strange accent where this one is great because he's doesn't it actually doesn't matter. It's all energy. It's all energy. You know, that guy comes

[00:48:50] in that first scene because he's really not in the first chunk of the movie, the day chunk. Right. But you just see that moment where he like Damon is kneeling to get knighted or whatever. And I'm

[00:48:58] like, come closer or something. And you're like, oh, who's this guy? Like, you know, well, it's just so funny to think that that movie was designed to be Affleck and Damon playing the two.

[00:49:08] Affleck very wisely. Yes. Swerved away from the driver role. It was like, well, this role is fun. But it also it changes the whole dynamic of the movie in such a fascinating way when it's not these two contemporaries who we've watched in lockstep. Right. Famous partnership. Right.

[00:49:24] It becomes a weird generational gap between Driver and Damon and Damon and Affleck are the two guys on the same era. But yet the the alliance isn't between Affleck and Driver's character.

[00:49:35] And the pivotal scene of The Last Duel, of course, is when after you've seen his attack on her play out and you're like, well, wait, this is no different. He did attack her. Right. And then

[00:49:46] he goes to Affleck and he's like, I mean, she said no. But like, obviously, she said no. She has to say no. And Affleck's just like, yeah, I understand. Like and you're just like, oh, they're just playing

[00:49:56] up the villain, the banal villainy of this. Yeah. Not like doing a Rashomon. I think that's for everyone who sort of had their knives out at the idea of this movie and the gall of those people to

[00:50:06] make this movie. It was a you know, it was a gamble. It was a big ass gamble. Yeah. That is the kind of moment where you go like, oh, shit, this movie is about the difference of how bad it

[00:50:17] was versus right. Is anyone innocent or guilty? It's like that's not in question. And that Affleck scene where he just comes in with this modern energy and essentially plays like a fucking crisis

[00:50:26] management PR person for like a TikTok star. Yeah. Who's just like just deny and never talk about this. And the other scene also when he's like, goes to drive is like, you know, I'm rich, but I

[00:50:37] can't do math. It's so annoying. If you just look at all this and figure out how I can make more money and drivers like, well, yeah, you're some easy stuff to be done. He's like, I know. I just

[00:50:46] don't. You know, like he's so good at that weird casual. He's really good. Yeah. Richard Iowati in the souvenir part two is just a wrecking ball performance. Like every second he's on screen,

[00:50:56] you're like, I'm a hair is on fire. This guy is so funny and scary and sarcastic. I don't want him to look at me. Yeah. He's going to be mean to me. Like, you know, he's so powerful. Obviously,

[00:51:06] he's really funny in the souvenir part one is one scene, possibly my most embarrassing blind spot of the year considering that it would doubt first one was one of my top moves. Well,

[00:51:14] it's not embarrassing because it got such a weird release and I kept on missing it and it would disappear and then come back for two days. The first one was one of my blind spots. And so I

[00:51:23] haven't seen the second one cause I still haven't seen the first one. And I like one of these weekends, I'm just going to watch the both of them and I just need to make time to do it. See,

[00:51:31] I loved the first one. I feel like you gave a bunch of nominations and I just kept on fucking up getting to see them. Part two, Vincent Landon into tan. We can talk about more later. It sounds

[00:51:40] like. Yep. So we'll do that then I will say I did just see him in Claire Denise new movie. And once again, just that leathery face of his, the second it's on screen, I'm like, God,

[00:51:51] we'll return to the seventh annual blank check awards after a word from our sponsors, best supporting actress. All right. So emerging from the stage to present best supporting actress, we have Candace Bergen, of course, Elizabeth Debicki, Lily Gladstone, Jennifer Lopez and

[00:52:23] Laurie Metcalf. Now that's a cool group of people. That's a real cool group of people. I chose that one very particularly. I'm very excited that Lily Gladstone is in the Scorsese movie. I hope she has

[00:52:33] a lot to do. I think she has a fairly major role. I've read the book. Yeah. Um, because God, what that was, that must've been our first year, right? Yeah. No, certainly I was 16. I'm pretty sure.

[00:52:44] Yeah. Yeah. You're right. It's second. But, but I mean, she was my winner that year. What a performance. I think we all had her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was fantastic. Who else we got? We got

[00:52:52] Laurie Ladybird and Ladybird. Uh, I think Jennifer Lopez and hustlers was mine. I think both of you picked her and I picked Pew. I think it was two low-pressure in a period. Yeah. And you called

[00:53:05] Candace LeBron Bergen. Right. And of course in the next year, Candace LeBron James Bergen won on your ballot for let them all talk. She was on all of ours. You had her for mink. I had her specifically for nerds. Oh, right. Right. Exclusively parents. Yeah. Uh, anyway, yeah.

[00:53:23] They all are. It's a good group. It's a real good group. Best supporting actress. The Oscar. Oh wait. Oh, I'll do the blankies. Remind me though. I'll do them now actually. But, but the Oscar nominees

[00:53:33] this year, how'd they do? He, you know, right. They did well, but they had the weird snub, right? Jesse Buckley and lost daughter. Great nomination. Ariana DeBose and West side story. Great nomination.

[00:53:45] Kirsten Dunst and power of the dog and ingenue Ellis and King Richard. So who was the obvious snub here? And now I'm forgetting. Well, Katrina Balfe was why and Katrina ball. Those were the two

[00:53:55] yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. But it was like the dench thing. Even I can forgive. I mean, it's the Oscars and Judy Dench. What are you going to do? Like, I'm not going to love Judy

[00:54:02] Dench. They love Judy Dench. What was odd was four months out. I was like, that's inevitable. And then she was a year ahead of time, but then she was snubbed in every fucking thing. And I was like,

[00:54:11] weird. I guess she has no traction. Don't you worry. Don't you worry, grandma. We're paying attention. Someone has pointed out the age gap between her and Kieran Hines is bananas and is not

[00:54:21] addressed in the movie. She is basically 20 years older than him. Uh, anyway. Yeah. Cause I mean, Kieran Hines is like a Liam Neeson contemporary. He's like, yeah, 60s. Yeah. Okay. All right. Best supporting actress. Oh, let me do the blankies please. Uh, supporting performance winners list.

[00:54:40] Now. Yeah. Ariana DeBose is their winner. Number one. All right. Then Mike Feist. Ben Affleck is number two. Number three. Cody Smith McPhee, Jeffrey Wright for French dispatch. Kirsten Dunst, Bradley Cooper, Vincent Landon, Catherine Hunter for the tragedy, Macbeth and Rebecca Ferguson for

[00:55:00] Dune, which is a really good performance. It was a good performance. Yeah. Okay. My five. Yes. I'll just say right off the bat, please. Ruth Naga passing her getting snubbed. I was like, I mean,

[00:55:10] I think she was pretty much always on my five, but once she got some, I was like, I have to fucking put her in here. But that just felt like such a slam dunk. I'll say this was the category maybe

[00:55:18] where I had the hardest. I had the most contenders. I had a ton of four out of five type things where I'm like, I really like this. Yeah. Right. There were less like locks for me and a lot of people

[00:55:29] who were sort of circling. Yeah. Uh, Ruth Naga passing Riley Keough, Zola, Thomasin McKenzie, old. She's really good. Oh, that's an interesting pick. Did she get old in that movie? Very.

[00:55:42] Yeah. Um, or I guess somewhat. We can all hope to one day turn into Mbeth Davids. Yes. Right. The exact age, uh, Leah Seydoux for the French dispatch and Harriet Sansom Harris for liquor.

[00:55:55] Whatever. We're probably all nominating her. How could you not? She's you thought you were going to look really fucking special. I was 50 50 that you were going to have her too. I just wasn't. Yeah. Okay. That's good. All right. My five are Ariana DeBose for West Side Story.

[00:56:11] Dagmara Dominic for the lost daughter. Oh, Polly Draper for Shiva baby. Who ate who from Chevrolet? Polly Draper. Interesting. Which makes our very first mother son. Interesting. Nominees in a blankies here. That was a little bit of history. Alex's mother. Okay. Uh, Kirsten

[00:56:30] Dunston, the power of the dog and Mia Voskouska in Bergman Island. Oh yeah. Uh, yeah. So this is the first time a co-creator of the naked brothers band has been nominated at the blank. And the

[00:56:41] second time a member of the naked brothers. Third. Well, we'll have gotten before. Yeah. Two for Wolf. My nominees, Harriet Samson Harris and licorice pizza, Ruth Negan passing Catherine Hunter and the tragedy of Macbeth, Mia Voskouska in Bergman Island and Jesse Buckley

[00:56:58] in the lost daughter. I feel like we've got a lot of overlap here. So Ferguson is the only nominee who is not on by the listeners. Yeah. And Ferguson was actually a late cut for me. Sure. That's a great performance. Yeah. I mean, late cuts for me,

[00:57:11] DuBose and, uh, Dunst I cut because they got the Oscar nominations. But I like both those performances a lot. Same Catherine Hunter was a serious consideration for me. Yeah. I really love

[00:57:23] Toko Miura in drive my car. She was a late cut for me. She's the one who spoiler alert drives the car. She drives the, I should admit right here. My single biggest embarrassment. Yeah. I had very

[00:57:36] close. You are afraid of driving cars. That's why I'm a little too terrified. The ultimate experience of grueling terror drive my car. Yes. Someone saying that to me is my nightmare. Yeah.

[00:57:45] Griffin drive my car. Yeah. That is a same I've had. In fact, I've had stress nightmares where I find myself driving a car and realizing that I don't know how to drive a car. And that's, uh,

[00:57:56] that's always a good one to wake up from. Yeah. Um, Anja new Ellis comes close for me again, Oscar nominee, but love her. Uh, I picked Dagmara Dementic for lost daughter, but Dakota Johnson was very close to, I really loved her. I'm Jesse Buckley,

[00:58:11] super stand, but those are all good. Understandable. Just before I forget, cause you just triggered the memory. Sinai Sydney. I had on for a long time. She's incredibly good in that movie. Yes. And Gabby Hoffman and come on,

[00:58:24] come on as well is just kind of some of the best phone only acting I've ever seen. Yeah. It's saying how rarely she has to act with another person on camera in that movie. Yep. I, it's nice

[00:58:34] to me, um, plays Venus Williams in that movie. Um, I really like Anja new Ellis in that movie too. It's a classic Oscar nomination performance, but she does what she's supposed to do. I loved her

[00:58:46] since undercover brother. I think she's always fucking good. She's great. And Beale street, I was kind of hoping that King Richard would win the sag ensemble because I genuinely think all in

[00:58:58] the kids and everything. Well, I think Will Smith is the weak link of that cast. I, he's the only one who I don't really love his performance in that movie. I really like this. Yeah. And

[00:59:07] everybody else I think is really bringing it. Tony fucking Goldwyn. Yeah. Goldwyn's great. That's a really good scene early on. Yeah. I liked that movie. It made me cry. Yeah. I like that

[00:59:16] movie. Yeah. Yeah. Got me really choked up. But yeah, no, it's a nice Sydney, I think is great. And I don't hold this against, uh, Anja new Ellis, but it's just such a supporting actress

[00:59:25] and performance as designed that I think this nice Sydney performance popped a little more for me because it was more unexpected. Yeah. Keep your snubs going though. Oh no, your cuts. Sorry. Yeah. Rita Moreno for a West side story because the performance itself is fantastic. But,

[00:59:41] and I've mentioned this before the moment as I'm watching the movie, when I realize that they're giving her somewhere, somewhere I wept out loud. It was just like, it was intense. I really like

[00:59:53] her scene where she teaches in Spanish though, too. Like she has a lot of good material for it. And you guys mentioned it when you talked about West side story that like the expectation was,

[01:00:00] this is going to be a cameo and she ends up being like a really integral part of that movie. Uh, lateral from that Olga Meredith is yeah. Final numbers. Unbelievable. Really? Another one.

[01:00:13] I know that movie just didn't do well or well enough and like came out in the summer or whatever, but I was kind of like, there's a world where you can really run a campaign for her. And

[01:00:22] it was no mention of her. It was just gone. The fact that they, they, they tried to bury all memory of in the Heights is going to stick in my craw for a while because the fact that it didn't

[01:00:33] make money at the time that it was released was held against it in a way that I thought was cruel. Actually a little bit. And also like it made 30 million bucks, which is like, you know,

[01:00:45] in the end of the day, like whatever, get over it. It is one of those things. I mean, David, you and the West side story thing where people like, yeah, I don't get why this didn't

[01:00:52] save cinema. Right. That's the thing. The difference is that West side story had the benefit of being at the end of the year. But I think both of those movies have the anger towards

[01:01:00] them of why didn't you fix things? Right. Why were people dancing in the eyes? Here's what I want to tell you. Non-franchise adult musical. When I saw that movie at the IMAX in Lincoln

[01:01:09] square for two hours, that did save all of it for me. You know what I mean? Like while I was in that movie, while I was in that moment, it was everything that I wanted it to be. And the fact that yeah,

[01:01:20] like we weren't there yet as you know what I mean? We're still crawling our way out from under the rock. I think I can say this comfortably. Uh, 2021 weird year. Yeah. Weird year. Weird of a

[01:01:31] weird year. We're better than 2022, but uh, we would also throw out Olga Mara. This is fantastic. Daphne Rubin Vega and in the Heights is rad. Yes, she is. She's really fun. And one of those was

[01:01:41] just like, oh right. You're incredibly talented and you have been for quite a while. And uh, and what a great number that she has. Also, I will throw out my MP for the humans turned out to be

[01:01:53] Amy Schumer in a way that I was very surprised. She's so great in that incredible performance worth checking out that movie. Um, some of my cuts that I'm told this went to the souvenir part

[01:02:04] two was a late cut for me as she was for part one. I think that performance is devastating. As well. She is really funny. The part where she puts up her, uh, the naked picture of herself.

[01:02:14] She's like, Oh, that is very underrated as a comic actor. Uh, uh, so she is great and we love her. I'm trying to think if they're well, uh, Jennifer Ely and St. Maude, she was on my very late cut for

[01:02:26] me. That is a really good movie. That is a really good performance. It's doing what she's supposed to do, but it's really good. Um, I feel like there's not, I mean, leave me alone. I really

[01:02:38] like Sally Hawkins and Spencer. I think that's a lovely warm performance in a good movie. I don't love that movie. If I loved that movie, she would have made my five. I think that's

[01:02:49] incredible work from her. I feel like there's one, I mean, you know, Ruth Naga, she was on my list. I'm sort of, yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, I guess that's it. I mean, you know,

[01:03:00] Judy Dench was so good in Belfast. Um, yeah, I guess those were the main ones. I mean, let's talk through our people that we put on. Yeah. Uh, uh, Thomas and Mackenzie,

[01:03:12] this was obviously a year of a lot of her. Yeah. And she's the new Rooney Mara. She's like a big bird. Right. She is. And I, you know, not offense, no offense. Also very tall baby.

[01:03:23] Right. Well, yeah. That whole thing, the voice and the right. Marie Marie does an incredible impression of her. Like it just a devastating impression of her. Yeah. I think old is like the greatest possible application of 100%. I really want to be suited to playing that exact

[01:03:39] thing. And I had seen her in things obviously leave your face and whatnot. And yet an old is very particular. And yet it was in last night in Soho when I'm watching it and I'm just like,

[01:03:50] oh, that's just how you talk. Right. Soho is where you're kind of like, wait, can you just chill out a little bit? Like I don't think she's bad in last night. So she's not the fragile for

[01:04:00] that. Right. It makes it too. Yeah. But like old I just look part of it is just incredible casting. Yes. But when you have her walking on the beach, yeah. Feeling so afraid by her own body. Yeah.

[01:04:13] Because getting old. Yes. Yeah. You just actually buy from her more than once again, Alex will very good in that movie. Yeah. Right. Like everyone else very good. But she's the one

[01:04:23] person where I actually think you buy this is a six year old in the body of a teenager and it's terrible. And while we're talking about old, we should probably give some sort of props to

[01:04:31] Abby Lee for breaking all the bones in her body for that most committed performance. Like that's a that's some commitment right there. Yeah. I also just I had to I had to doff the cap to

[01:04:40] old somewhere. Oh, good. Ruth Nega is kind of just like immaculate work and such an incredibly talented actor who is still, you know, it basically any time she pops up here like this is 100 percent better than anyone else could. Right. And look, that's like that's a rich

[01:04:57] character as that's a slam dunk on the page. But every single moment, every pause, you read every thought that she has and go, what the fuck is this woman doing? She is so sort of like inscrutable in this odd way. Yeah. As this character is shifting between modes,

[01:05:15] it's fun to not nominate her for here. And I just felt like that seemed like Locke. As much as I never I never trusted that. Yeah. Netflix was sort of wishy washy about passing. Passing was way down. He's very mannered and sort of specific. And she's just like,

[01:05:32] she's great talking. Perfect. In that. Oh, Lisa, do OK. An actress who runs very, very hot and cold for me because I think she has to be used very specifically. And I think No Time to Die is an example of like her being used almost catastrophically.

[01:05:48] I think she's really good. I know you do. I think I know you're wonderful performance. I think that was a bad casting choice. In fact, I think it's just an odd story choice to me.

[01:05:59] At this point now that and that Bond has this sort of thing where like right now, this is the most important woman who has ever existed in this universe. And it's because you

[01:06:08] are looking at her right now. Yes. This is part of my take is that I think if they were ever going to pull that off, they needed to do so by casting someone who was as opposite from the conventions

[01:06:21] of a Bond girl as possible. And Laysa Doo does feel like she fits into a Bond movie. She has that weird steely, icy. We can't litigate. No, we're not. My point is, but you love her in the

[01:06:34] French dispatch. I think it's weaponizing everything that makes her for me a bad fit in the Bond universe where it is like here is this woman who seems terrifying mannered, artificially sort of closed off and cruel. Sure. And just constantly gives you these little peaks

[01:06:50] of her, her emotions underneath. Um, it's just such a funny performance, but there's like real emotionality behind it. Uh, yeah, I think she's great in that. Who else you got? Uh, Harry, uh,

[01:07:03] Sansa Harris. We can talk about when we get to yours and then my other one was Riley Keough and Zola who's, I mentioned this on my podcast the other day. That's a risky performance that

[01:07:18] I think she pulls off with aplomb, but that is could have gone pretty wrong. Correct. Yeah. So she gets points for me from that. Yeah. But I also just think she's an actor who kind of gets

[01:07:29] better every year. I mean, she keeps on making interesting choices, working with interesting directors. She went from being someone who I was just like, Oh, this is grand daughter. I'm gonna

[01:07:37] put her in fucking movies. Right. And there'd be all this hype around her and she'd show up for two scenes and you'd be like, what is this? You know, magic Mike, a thing where she's like,

[01:07:44] not bad, but as two lines and you were like, what are we doing here? And then has just sort of like gotten better and better and better and better. And I think she's just got so much chaotic

[01:07:52] energy in that movie. Let's all go watch Logan Lucky. Just great movie. I've watched it regularly. The good movie. I watch it like twice a year. Yeah. Who else you got? Those are my five.

[01:08:04] Harriet Sons of Harris. When we, well, let me pick up Harriet right now. Let's do it. Pick up. I got it right here. Yeah. In a movie that is all sort of these contained fascinating scenes with

[01:08:16] performers swinging in. She is the MVP of supporting performers in that movie. That scene is bananas. I love Harriet Simpson Harris. We all know her from Frazier, right? She was BB on Frazier. We

[01:08:31] all know her from Phantom Thread. A wonderful performance. I regret not having the courage to nominate that year because I was like, is it too small of a performance? Which made me go this year,

[01:08:40] even smaller performance. I have to fucking nominate her. She was always forever just that person who would show up on a TV show in a guest role and you're like, we're in good hands for this

[01:08:48] episode. It has all the energy of the Cooper performance where you're like, I don't know what the next word out of this mouth is going to be. And they're talking quickly. Like, and she says

[01:08:57] no six times in a row and everyone is so radically different. But I just saw someone tweet. I'm sorry. I'm not giving a credit here. I feel like it was another actor. I follow Donald J. Trump Jr.

[01:09:09] Yes. My favorite actor. It was some character actor I follow was saying just like that performance is so fascinating because every single choice she is making is so specific and yet you

[01:09:20] cannot figure out what it is. Yeah. It is so clear that she knows exactly what is going on in this woman's mind, her history, her life, who she's talking to, what they're asking, why she's

[01:09:30] answering that way. Other characters don't write. Yeah, you cannot fucking figure it out. It's an incredible scene. It's such a funny scene. Do you remember her X-Files episode? Yes. Eve. Yes. That

[01:09:41] the band Eve six takes their name from. Yeah. She rules in there. She's great. She's always good. Yeah. She is always, she's always, she's like, there's another thing I'm thinking of with her

[01:09:50] that I'm forgetting now. What is it? Well, Adam's family values. Oh yeah. She's so funny in that. Her and who was, is it Sam McMurray? Yes. Is her husband in that? It is right there. Yes. Their heart. They're Mercedes Mcmadden McNabb's parents. Yeah. Who else on your side?

[01:10:08] I just, right. It's, it's the, the, the Wednesday Adams is like, you know, she's at that age where she can only think of one thing. Boys. She goes homicide. Yeah. That's great. Anyway. Yeah. All

[01:10:17] right. So I also had Ruth Nega. I had New York film critics circle winner, Catherine Hunter. One of those performances that only one person could have given and it's her as the witches

[01:10:27] in a way where you're almost like who played this, who has been playing this part for centuries. Right. Right. Who else dared? Right. And like when you, you know, just an actress, obviously she's best known as a stage actress. She's this incredibly physical performer. She'd

[01:10:42] be like, who's been in lots of movies. She's in Harry Potter. I've seen her before. And it really feels like the Coen's like summoned a witch. Who is she in Harry Potter? She is Mrs. Fig who defends Harry from the dementors, his next door neighbor,

[01:10:56] who's been like a secret agent the whole time. She's really good. She's a long scene in the courtroom where she in Azkaban and prison. No, in the, in the courtroom where Harry's

[01:11:09] in the movie and then prisoner of Azkaban. No, it's in order of the fiends. Oh, okay. All right. Anyway. She's really good. Really great performance. I'm glad it got attention. Jesse Buckley.

[01:11:21] Is just kind of almost at that stage where I'm like, she's probably on my ballot every year. I mean, I nominated what back to back for wild rose and I'm thinking of anything.

[01:11:31] Were those back to back years? I have no sense of time anymore. Yeah. Yeah. And I did nominate her because I haven't watched that movie yet. And I'm guessing I probably would if I watched it.

[01:11:38] It's an incredible performance. Do you like Jesse Buckley in the lost daughter? You know, a lost daughter fan? I'm not a Jesse Buckley person. I know. Well, I'll move on to someone we agree on. Yes. Mia wash a Costco. My winner for her performance in Bergman Island. Yes.

[01:11:52] Which she plays an emo fictional character in an emo movie who falls in love with Andrew Stamos. She's so wonderful. I don't love that movie. I think that's not true. You know, that's

[01:12:04] not true. She probably still even so made my pen. If I liked that movie, she would have been a slam dunk. I love I really like the movie that winner takes it all scene is just a gorgeous

[01:12:18] piece of filmmaking. It really is. I really like me. I've got no beef with her. Yeah, but I do think I had I don't want to be rude, but like I just sort of gotten like I was like, I know what

[01:12:31] she does. Sure. What? You know, I got maybe just kind of used to like, you know, like I know what she's going to give me. And she hasn't been in a lot of stuff recently. I was there were a few

[01:12:38] years where you were getting a lot of her, you know, Alice. We went through the she and Saoirse were in a in a death match for a while, you know, in terms of just like that particular type of

[01:12:48] drop from the ceiling. They'll crack kind of, you know, a particular set of skills. Right. And like I just I was so moved by her work in that movie. Joe. Yeah. I'm passing the torch. Well,

[01:12:59] so I got so yeah. Who's your winner, by the way? I think my winner is Ruth Nagle. That's a good winner. Yeah, in my opinion. My winner is is Polly Draper, Naked Brothers Band. Your winner

[01:13:09] is Polly Draper. Oh, and Shiva Baby. I have seen she's astoundingly she's good in the movie. Every single thing she says in that movie makes me laugh. I think she just comes to play. She's

[01:13:20] throwing heat the whole time. It's from the second I saw that movie, I couldn't shut up about her. I thought she was just like and again, it's a type, right? The hypercritical mother. Everything is

[01:13:31] passive aggressive and whatever. But just like she's a sniper in that movie and she's just like picking off people left and right. It's really fantastic. And and she and Melamed make such a

[01:13:42] great sort of like pair together. I love that movie. I thought that movie was so fantastic. Who else do I got? Dagmara Dimincik. I mean, Lost Daughters kind of I say I'm not a Jesse

[01:13:51] Buckley person, but like she's great in that movie. But like Dagmara Diminchik to me is another one. Like that, you can say her name. Have you also nominated her before? Am I misremembering? Well, before pre blankies, she had been on my ballot for a movie called Higher Ground

[01:14:06] that she did that Vera Farmiga directed where she plays Vera's like best friend. And of course, she most people now know her as what's her character in a succession's name? Carolina. Carolina, the one of the having the quiet affair with the no, no, no. Carolina is

[01:14:24] the one who you think at the beginning of the last season is has defected to. Yeah, yeah. Kendall's side gets out of the car and is just like, he's out. Oh, is it? I mean,

[01:14:33] this was a pre blankies year, but was immigrant as well. Were you had her on your ballot? No, no. OK, no. I just know you love her. I do love her. Also married to Patrick Wilson. Nice

[01:14:44] work if you can get it hot. Uh huh. But yeah, Lost Daughters. Going on almost 20 years. Yeah. She's pretty hot. I'm had time for those two hot people. Terrifying in this movie, though. Every single like her. She's the only one who feels like she is scary.

[01:15:00] Coleman, she and Coleman have these like fantastic little like face offs together. You think she's going to bring it all into the like you're she's going to kind of bring the house down earlier when she's sort of interrogating her. Yeah. No, she's she's good in that movie.

[01:15:13] I would not have thought to pick her. And then Ariana DeBose, who I always talk about it, but I won't stop talking about it. She got her start on So You Think You Can Dance. She was

[01:15:22] eliminated first in her season on So You Think You Can Dance. And like the perseverance of that, I also saw her on Broadway and bring it on the musical where she is fantastic. Interesting.

[01:15:33] I just it's so it's one of those things where I see her and I just feel this like weird swell of like secret, you know, like she's one of my people, you know what I mean? Like she's one

[01:15:41] of my she's one of my So You Think You Can Dancers. But also she's killing it in that movie. Just that again, you talk about somebody who that movie asks more of her than even if you've

[01:15:54] seen the original, right? Where it surprises you the depths to which that movie requires her to go. Yes. And she really carries it off. Yeah. So, so well. The America number is the high point of

[01:16:08] that movie for me. That's when I feel as in love with that movie as I wish I did for the entire because you can see my old apartment in the background of one of the shots. It's that exact

[01:16:15] reason. And I thought it was a weird oversight of Steven Spielberg to not do that in the other numbers. Yeah, but he should have done that. I agree. Yeah. You should leave here and go watch

[01:16:22] West Side Story right now. It's streaming on HBO Max. Look, I saw it again in theaters after we did our episode. Yeah, but David, you had a weird theater experience. I thought the theater was

[01:16:32] empty. It was empty. I was having a great time. And then like 20 minutes in an old couple walked in and they talked through a lot of it. I just want to say, I want to say I saw it a second time.

[01:16:40] I was in a very bad mental state when we recorded our first episode. It was right when Omicron was causing nightmares. Watching the second time, the highlights of the film became stronger for me and

[01:16:50] my issues became stronger as well. I still feel pretty much at the same level of it where there's stuff now I think is incredible and there's some issues I have. Great movie. Who else you got, Joe?

[01:16:59] Kirsten Dunst in Power of the Dog, who I know did get the Oscar nomination, but we don't say it enough how great she is. We kind of like for somebody who is as famous as she is and celebrated

[01:17:08] as she is, we kind of still don't say it. God love her. God love Dunst. We all salute Dunst. She's great. I love Dunst. Yeah. I don't know. Is that it? Is that everyone? That's my five.

[01:17:21] Who's your winner? My winner is Winegger. Okay. Joe's winner is... Pauly Draper. Pauly Draper. And David's winner is Mia Wasikowska. Mia Wasikowska. I don't know how you say her last name. I'm just sort of like throwing different English on it every time. Don't go by Meryl Streep

[01:17:36] because she totally went bananas on it. That one Golden Globes where she said... She said Ada Perro Odebrecht first of all, and then she said Mia Wasikowska. Wasikowska. There's more of that after this ad. David? Yes? I feel like I have to recuse...

[01:18:01] Screenplay. Best adapted screenplay. Best original screenplay. Okay. The worst person in the world. That's Joachim Trier. Eskil Vos. The French Dispatch. Wes Anderson. A story by Jason Schwartzman and Hugo Guinness. Roman Coppola. The Card Counter. Greiner. Facebook. Titan.

[01:18:23] I don't know. I think it's just... Pig. Pig. Pig. It's about that pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. Pig. It's written by the same guy. It's written directed, right? Michael Stanowski. Yeah. I think he had a co-writer. No, no, no co-writer. Well, even more impressive. There's a story

[01:18:38] given to Vanessa Block. Okay. Best adapted screenplay. What ended up being a real Blink Check category. Okay. My five nominees are The Matrix Resurrections. Sure. West Side Story. Yeah. The Last Duel. Benedetta. Power of the Dog. Four out of five nominees are Blink Check.

[01:18:56] Movies we covered. I see what you're saying. Wow. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But it just shook out that... I mean, look, we had five movies this year from directors we've covered on the podcast and all

[01:19:08] five of those movies were in my top 20 for the year. And they were mostly... Because they were mostly late Oscar season movies. Yeah. But I liked all of them. I mean, creeping on all my categories

[01:19:17] only made the one. I mean, it is an adapted screenplay, of course. Who you got? All right. Original screenplay. I have Bergman Island. Me A Handsome Love. Petite Maman. Silly and Siyama.

[01:19:29] Still haven't seen it. It's coming out for another fucking six weeks. I know, but I'm just like... I know. I really got mad at them about that. I actually got in a fight with them about it.

[01:19:39] That's too late. It's not a 2020 movie. And I defend the worst person in the world thing. I get it. But you can't just... Red Rocket. Sean Baker and Chris... Blindspot. Embarrassing Blindspot for me. Another inexplicable... How have I not seen that? It is surprising

[01:19:54] you didn't get to it. I know. Shiva Baby, Emma Seligman, and The Worst Person in the World. Yoakum Trier and Eskel Vought. And a man doing adapted as well. Throw him on. All right. Drive my car. It's Ricegum, Hamaguchi, and Takamasa Oi. Thank you. Lost Daughter, Maggie Gyllenhaal.

[01:20:15] Power of the Dog, Jane Campion. Tick tick boom, Steven Levinson. And West Side Story, Tony Kushner. Snap snap. Yeah, there you go. My nominees are very similar to all of your nominees. In original screenplay, I had Licorice Pizza, Worst Person in the World, Card Counter,

[01:20:35] Bergman Island, and The Souvenir Part 2, which is, I think, the only one that wasn't on one of your ballots. And in adapted screenplay, I had West Side Story, The Lost Daughter, Drive my Car, The Power of the Dog, and June. June? June. Oh.

[01:20:52] I will also say that the blankie nominees in original screenplay were Licorice Pizza, French Dispatch, Pig, Worst Person, and Titan. And in adapted were Power of the Dog, Dune, Drive my Car, The Green Knight. Great piece of adaptation. And West Side Story.

[01:21:09] Very good. Yeah. Tick tick boom, a late cut for me. And adapted into it's a very difficult piece of adapting it is by the person who wrote Dear Evan Hansen. Yes. Which is so funny. But

[01:21:21] yeah, like a lot of crossover for all of us. Yeah. I guess it's just obvious what the power of screenplays are. I'm trying to think what I'm missing. Yeah. Oscar nominees are all the movies

[01:21:32] we've talked about, but Coda, King Richard. Yeah. A really great screenplay called, a movie called Don't Look Up and Belfast are some of the nominees we are ignoring. Coda really just didn't. Yeah.

[01:21:43] You're not a big Coda fan. Yeah. Coda is one of those movies I appreciated, but I wanted to really fall in love with it. And I didn't make it. Have you ever seen the French one? No. I asked my mom

[01:21:54] about it and she was like, oh yeah, the French one sucks. The French one, it seems like even though it has the same basic structure, it was more like people saw it and were like, well,

[01:22:02] this is like a very good framework for a movie that will work. Yeah. I don't know anyone who really said that it's good. Yeah. Because I watched the American one. I was like, maybe

[01:22:11] I'd like the French one. But anyway, Coda not a nominee. Who are your winners guys? My original screenplay winner is Worst Person in the World and I gave Adapted to that dank, dank Kush. West Side Story. That's my, uh, that's my Adapted winner as well.

[01:22:25] It's Kushner. Incredible piece of adaptation. My original screenplay winner is Sleem Siama for Petit Mamum. Hell yeah. Great screenplay. Beautiful piece of story construction. I gotta wait another six weeks to see it. It is bull, it's bullshit. My original screenplay winner is going

[01:22:39] to be, let me say Adapted first cause I'm fucking doing it. Do it. I'm going Matrix Resurrection's best adapted screenplay. We rewatched it the other day for the commentary. It's a good movie. I just fucking, the audacity of that film, uh, really, uh, floors me. For best original

[01:22:57] screenplay. You had five nominees. I'm just, I'm just trying to help you out here. Yeah, I know. I have five nominees. Best Person in the World, French Dispatch Card, Counter to 10,

[01:23:06] Peg. Uh, I am going to go with, uh, the worst person in the world to spread the wealth. That was my winner too. But spreading the wealth on your ballot. Yes. Not to

[01:23:18] I understand. Yeah. Cause I would have, right. Yeah. All right. I need to say it aloud. Uh, yeah. A lot of good screenplays. These are not hot categories for me. No, no. It was actually

[01:23:29] really easy for me to film. I was just like, there are five obvious ones. That's sort of how I felt too. And I think like the adapted screenplay nominees for me this year were not, well, right.

[01:23:40] Of course that's adapted. They were like interesting works of adaptation. I feel like all five of those are like a good script. It's oh, it's based on a book. Right? Right. And the original, I mean,

[01:23:49] drive my car deeply original to me, which you have not seen, but drive my car is probably another very impressive piece of adaptation and that it is spinning like this piece of Gossamer into a three

[01:23:59] hour emotional epic. Yeah. Uh, anyway. Well, that's great. Should we do an acting category? A lead actor? Yeah. Best actor. All right. Out to present the award for the blankie for best actor

[01:24:18] actor, Adam driver, of course, Tom Hanks, Michael B Jordan was our first sweep. All three of us remember when we were just like undoubtedly that guy's gonna, Oh my God. Yeah. Uh, Daniel

[01:24:32] Kaluuya and Delroy Lindo. Oh, that's a, I mean, that's another cool group of guys to get dinner with drivers. Another one who's won, uh, for two different movies at blankies one, uh, Patterson

[01:24:45] for David and marriage story for this guy right here. Right. And I kept on sort of making him a bridesmaid and cutting him at the last second multiple years in a row. Last Jedi. We all were

[01:24:55] guilty of that. Have been guilty of that with driver at one time or another. Black Klansman. I almost put him in for lead and you object that you punched me in the face. Okay. My nominees for

[01:25:04] best actor are Benedict Cumber batch. Wow. You really got, got, got held up there. No, I was going to make a funny joke and then I re I was good too. Who knows what you're going to do? Benedict

[01:25:18] Cumberbatch. Sure. Sure. Glad you didn't do it. Thank God. And I'm especially glad we're still talking about it. Yeah. Anyway. So Benedict Cumberbatch for the power of the dog. Oh, not spider-man. Okay. Fine. Oscar Isaac to card count. Nicholas cage and pig.

[01:25:34] Winkly Vincent Linda and Titan. Uh, smash, smash. I don't know. Uh, uh, how do you make a syringe? Yeah. What's a syringe? Squint. Squint. Steroid. Steroid. And Matt Damon for still water. I have not seen. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Let me put it on trucker hat. A re-perform.

[01:25:57] Love that performance. Late cut for me. Joe. All right. Uh, well I should preface this by saying I bridesmaided Adam driver as well for this one. He was my close sixth place. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so my first best actor nominee is in fact Eric Andre for bad trip.

[01:26:15] Wow. Pause for her reaction. My griffiest pick of the year. Truly. Yeah. Wow. It's one of those. Well, we'll get into it. Uh, Nicholas cage for pig. Benedict Cumberbatch for the power of the dog. Andrew Garfield for tick tick boom.

[01:26:33] And Mr. Simon Rex for red rocket. Yes. So Garfield also a late cut for me. I think that performance is tremendous, but he's gotten his Oscar attention and all that. The cat also a late cut for me just

[01:26:43] because he didn't do a movie this year. He really fucked up. He was so ready. A pig is a Cajun pick a great performance. I have some crossover. I have been in a Cumberbatch and the

[01:26:51] power of the dog. I have Oscar Isaac in the card counter. I have Simon Rex in red rocket. I had, and then I have hit a Toshi Nishijima and drive my car and Keanu Reeves in the matrix

[01:27:03] resurrections. I'm glad you put them in there. Cause I want an obvious one for me. And then I'll say the rewatch, which we did, I've watched a couple of times, but you know, which we just did

[01:27:12] for the commentary. I was like, he's really like it's his best performance in years. Yeah. I mean, I think I nominated for John wick three. You might have, I think you did one of them,

[01:27:25] which is the other one where I really, yeah, well, and actually pretty cool with me, but we were, you watch resurrections and we were like really fucking loopy. We had to record like seven straight hours that day. And that commentary went off the rails. I

[01:27:39] think also because we had recently done our longest episode ever talking so in depth about that movie. But yes, David rewatching it, I was just kind of blown away by it. I want to put

[01:27:47] him in there. I'm happy you put him in there instead. I gave it the screenplay nomination, even though that doesn't do Keanu any good. He's unbelievable in that movie. I did want to, yeah. You gave last dualist screenplay nomination, right? That's always

[01:27:59] a fun one when you get to get some actors in there, this right before sunset nomination. Yeah. Yeah. Damon double nominee for me this year. Stillwater. What a performance. Maybe. What a movie. I mean, you and I always talk about dividing

[01:28:12] Damon performances into supporting versus lead, right? Because he understands the different opportunities in those two and the different responsibilities of those two. I think that's his best lead performance ever. And it is really good. A performance where on its face,

[01:28:28] if 20 years ago you told you were someone you were going to cast Matt Damon in that role, I will never buy him doing it. I don't care what he ages into. Right. Mr. Boston, Mr. Liberal,

[01:28:40] like oversharing his politics, accidentally being so woke that he says things that are retrograde. How does that guy play like weird, emotionally closed off? He's so fucking good in it. It's. I got to see it. I got to see it. My other nominees, Oscar Isaac,

[01:28:56] card counter, Nicholas Cage, pig. We can talk about further as we get into our overlaps there and a kind of power to the dog as well. I guess it's opportunity to talk about being

[01:29:04] a song when Don a little bit more love you and I've been arguing about this for about five months about whether he's leader support. I mean, it hasn't been a consistent argument. It's nonstop sure. During episode records, we're texting each other. He's obviously very dominant in the film

[01:29:18] once you write, but it's halfway into the film. It is. So it's a fairly marginal, you know, you can sell me either way. Right. I don't know where the Cesar has put him. Yeah, that's a good question. I feel like we are in constant competition with the Cesar.

[01:29:32] Well, fucking Cesar fucking Cesar gave best actress to the lady playing Celine Dion this year. You know that, right? Yes. Unbelievable. And they did nominate Vincent London and nowhere. Well, then. Wow. Then they can do it. No help. Yeah. Here's the major thought I had

[01:29:48] going through my head while watching Teton. I wish there were any American leading men who let themselves age this way. There is something about him where you're just like, that is an adult man on screen. He looks great. He got an incredible shape for that movie.

[01:30:05] But just the shape of his body is not unreasonable. It is not unreal. He is not trying to look 35. The ways in which his skin has sagged are so fascinating. There's experience. There's fucking wisdom on that man's face. Yeah. That performance is just like it's a sad daddy.

[01:30:23] It's it's can I say it is the most taught performance of the year? Sure. Just looking at him, you feel tension at all times. Yeah. And the things that movie asked him to do are like almost impossible. It's one of those performances where you have to buy

[01:30:39] that the person does not put together a thing that is not only obvious to the audience because we have all the information, but it seems apparent on it. It's visually obvious this is not his son.

[01:30:50] Right. And Tony, these lines of does he know, does he is he in denial about it? Is he pretending he doesn't mix of that? And yeah, and he looks like an old tractor or something. You know,

[01:31:01] it's just like he really you like to 10. Right, Ben? I feel like you're leaning in on this. Yeah. You kept telling me that I had to see it. Yeah. And I was like, totally blown away.

[01:31:11] It's so visceral. That movie's punk as fuck. And I don't know if you picked up on this because it is set up with the tan fucks a car. Yeah, no, I picked up on that. And then has a little

[01:31:21] car baby, which the baby looks like incredible. I'm like, I want to see what that baby turns out like. Well, to 10 to. Yeah. You got it. You got it. But but no, I just like the last thing I'll

[01:31:33] say is the music is so fucking good. The lead actor is like so scary. And maybe we'll talk to you might be on this. OK, well, who else you got or is that everyone? Those were my five. Yeah,

[01:31:50] because the other ones I have overlap with you guys. Well, let's talk Isaac Cage Cumberbatch. Yeah. I mean, Nicolas Cage is, you know, he loves. He's great. He really loves that pig. Yeah, it's

[01:32:01] I hate to fall into like the predictable sort of trap of just like, you know, the good cage versus the bad cage. And yet I can't deny that like everyone's in because I'm like, I don't necessarily

[01:32:12] consider myself a Nicolas Cage person, but every once in a while he'll throw something else, something like this out. And I can't I can't fully walk away. See, I'm very much a cage person. Yeah.

[01:32:23] I think, you know, the last 10 years of his career, when he got into like tax problems and he just had to make so many fucking movies is the first time where I feel like he started making

[01:32:31] movies that were boring to me. Sure. He had made bad films before, but things were didn't feel like he was putting his all into everything. And I think in that time he has had some good gonzo

[01:32:41] performances, which I love. And I always try to stay in good gonzo cage. It's not like I don't want to be the person who's only fucking awarding him, as you're saying, when he does the naturalistic

[01:32:50] thing, because he is someone who's capable of doing these things that other actors cannot do. Kick ass is a performance, for example, a movie I don't love, but I think is great. Gonzo weirdo

[01:32:59] cage. Sure, sure, sure. There are other examples like that in the last 10, 15 years. Pig. It's not just that he's doing a more naturalistic performance because it's the weirdest naturalistic performance of all time. Like, even if you give him credit for it, he's low key. He's understated.

[01:33:14] You know, he's sitting and listening to people. But it's not just that he'd like turned the volume off or whatever. It's just like it's he's really he's doing something. The depth of feeling there

[01:33:22] is incredible. And he still is like I mean, he's doing shit where you're just like, why isn't the guy taking a shower? And he's playing the energy of a guy who hasn't taken a shower in 15 years.

[01:33:30] He's also like the whole thing in pig is like he looks at you and he knows things about you. Yeah, you don't know about yourself. And that is very good use of case. He's my way that he has

[01:33:40] like kind of wizardy powers. He's my winner. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, the Eric Andre thing, please. I it's one of those other was like I wrote a check that I had to cash.

[01:33:50] Essentially, I watched that movie. What was it? Spring? I think it was a spring release was whatever. When I when I watched that movie, I was kind of in my feelings about Borat a little bit

[01:34:00] and like Borat. I felt bad about not liking Borat. Am I not? You know, am I no fun for, you know, not like a boy? And then I watched Bad Trip and I'm like, no, this is what everybody liked about

[01:34:09] Borat. I like about Bad Trip. It's like it's like it's and he pulls that off with I mean, whatever. It's the Eric Andre thing, right? Where it's like this endlessly cheerful person

[01:34:22] who is probably up to something psychotic. Right. And the way he sort of walks the people through these various sort of like pranks and set pieces in this movie, I think it's just charming, but

[01:34:37] also like deceptively difficult to keep people sort of like locked in on this wavelength. And I don't know. I just think it's tremendously funny. And he and Will Rell are very,

[01:34:47] I think Will Rell is really good in that movie. It's a very funny it's like it's to me, it's an uncomplicated good time. And I really was looking for an uncomplicated good time when

[01:34:58] I saw that movie. There's a big question for me. Yeah. Has the Academy not asked Will Rell to host the Academy Awards or does he not want to do it? Because last year it kind of felt like

[01:35:06] this is sort of an obvious he's at the exact right level of fame. He's been in movies. He's funny. He's not so big that he's like, it's not worth tanking my career to do this.

[01:35:16] I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. It seems like one of those things where I feel like these days, and I think the three hosts are an indicator of that is they don't

[01:35:26] ask people early enough. I think they didn't get those thing is the ultimate example. They didn't get Steve Martin and Martin Short and Selena Gomez because they couldn't book them because they did. They waited until the last minute to ask them. That's the insane thing

[01:35:37] that the original plan was to have like three trios and then it became like three duos and now it's like three unconnected people. Right? Yeah. It's so bad what they're doing. I feel bad for

[01:35:48] Wanda Sykes and Regina Hall. I would have felt more excited if they announced any one of those three people hosting on their own. Sure. They would have been slightly odd choices in this year,

[01:35:58] but I would have been more excited than the three where I'm just like, what the fuck is this? What's going on? Yeah. Oh, and then Andrew Garfield. I mean, what a great year for him just in general,

[01:36:09] but also that's a really tough assignment. It is. I think people were ready to hate on that movie. I think that movie was being set up to be kind of a punchline. People are over Lin-Manuel for many

[01:36:19] reasons and whatever. And I think Andrew Garfield is one of those quasi Hathaway types where it's like he's so willing to put on the show that sometimes you almost want to bully him. Right.

[01:36:30] To have him play musical theater guy was just like recipe for punches. Right. But he pulls it off so well. I mean, that movie locked me in right away where I was like, cause I was not, I like a lot

[01:36:40] of musical theater, but I was not familiar with Tick, Tick, Boom beyond the fact of it. I knew what it was, but that movie got me right away and he's tremendous. Very good at playing annoying

[01:36:49] people. This is the thing. You were the one who said this to me, David, when you saw it and you were sort of surprised by how good it was. You went to one of the first screens they had in New

[01:36:56] York before people had seen it. And you were like the thing that's really, that gets really right is he understands what's insufferable about this guy. Without sacrificing that, you know, you're rooting for him. Right. But you're also frustrated by him, which is the experience that

[01:37:10] he's trying to sell you. And he's so good in that movie. I'm a big Andrew Garfield fan, except when I'm not, you know what I mean? Like I didn't like his performance in Angels in America, which was

[01:37:18] like Tony winning and like highly acclaimed. And I was like, this is 10% too dialed up for me. Yeah. Cause obviously it's supposed to be a dialed up performance. But you know,

[01:37:27] then this year, God tick tick. I mean, I like Tammy Faye more than most. And I don't think he that is a really weird character in that. Like they are kind of scurrying bad. He's not bad.

[01:37:41] They're skirting a lot of the worst stuff of that character. They don't want to deal with it or they don't have time or whatever. Yeah. I don't really know what that decision was. And so he

[01:37:50] kind of just drops out of the movie and like, but he's fine. He's also just, it's funny how boyish he remains in basic energy, you know, which you kind of need to use to your advantage rather than

[01:38:04] sort of ignoring. Yeah. Anyway, who else we got Joe? I mean, you and I share Simon Rex, so we can sort of pivot to each other for that. It's what a success story. What a story.

[01:38:16] I do think obviously Simon, Sean Baker has this just sort of preternatural understanding of what's going to work in his movies and who's going to make sense in them. And he obviously just sort

[01:38:28] of had this idea of like Simon Rex should play this washed up porn star and like called him out of the blue and was like, I don't have a script that you don't write. Like the whole story of

[01:38:36] it is good. But like, yeah. So credit to Sean Baker. Yeah. But all credit to Simon Rex. Not a person I've thought about much in the last 20 years. You haven't seen the movie Griff, you're

[01:38:46] going to love it. I'm going to love it. I will say, and to pat myself on the back a little bit, when I was on the Vanity Fair podcast and we were talking about year ahead Oscars, I did point this

[01:38:54] out. I was like Simon Rex playing a ex porn star given his own, you know, biography could be a really interesting choice. I mean, you saying David, you don't think about him much. Right.

[01:39:07] And I'm realizing now it was almost 20 years ago, but I remember seeing a scary movie three and being like, why aren't people using this guy? Like he always just seemed a little better than

[01:39:18] whatever anyone was asking him to do. He has the live wire energy that is hard to replicate. Yeah. And Ben, have you seen Red Rocket? You would love it. Ben took the mic out of the stand.

[01:39:28] Oh yes I have. But he would not work if he was just this annoying guy who babbles a mile a minute. Simon Rex totally understands that that guy is clinging on to any semblance of like legitimacy

[01:39:44] or coolness or, you know, like he, he, that guy knows he is one like step away from basically just everyone never wanting to speak to him again. Like, but he can't help himself when he's talking

[01:39:55] and talking to her, but like, right. I mean like he gets a sense of this character that like, this is the kind of stuff he was able to get away with in the past. This is the kind of stuff that

[01:40:02] would let him escape by this sort of, you know, charming personality stuff that even, you know, you may hate me, but you love me kind of stuff. He's so specifically like his manipulation is so

[01:40:14] specific to someone who's lived in LA for a really long time. Yeah. Yeah. Man, what a scumbag. Yeah. And like Ben says while grooming your, yeah. I just, I mean, I love, I love stories like this.

[01:40:28] I love like, it's just a simple character study of just this guy basically kind of just doing the same thing he's done. He's just resetting his life kind of again and where it all started in

[01:40:41] his hometown. Yeah. It's unabashedly just like messy and a little like, yeah, a little evil, a little fucked up, but a fun time. Yeah. It's a great movie. I love it. Did we talk about Oscar Isaac? No, I want to talk about Oscar. Incredible performance.

[01:40:58] Maybe it was sort of my runner up. I'm giving it to Nishijima. Okay. Um, but Oscar Isaac, my runner up as well by like a hair behind. He was very close. He almost made my list. Yeah.

[01:41:08] I mean, it's just you and I were texting about it, David, but like, here we go. Finally, this is the guy we've talked about for the last five years we've been waiting to come back and it's not like he's

[01:41:19] been doing bad work, but it just felt like, well, this is clearly the dude of his generation. And then it feels like Adam driver started taking all the parts for four actors of his generation.

[01:41:30] Sure. And Oscar Isaac just sort of disappeared for a little bit, you know, obviously demands of star Wars and whatever. But, uh, right. It was like, here we are back to basics. Give him

[01:41:42] just a real meaty script and a character study and let him look other actors in the eye, the scene where he tells the story about the best hand he's ever seen played. And he lays out all the

[01:41:52] cards and monologues it to tie, tie the Sheridan. And that's like a mostly a one-er that sort of slowly moves in on him. It's just, it's incredible shit. He's like, he's our fucking, he's the one

[01:42:03] guy who's got the seventies Pacino thing, you know? He knows. I mean, that's what he had in like my most violent year, of course. And you're right. It's just been a few years of being like,

[01:42:13] I guess he's just been busy with stuff. I'm that is less interesting. Yeah. That's all. I never dislike him, but it's certainly that run of like Lewin Davis into most violent year and

[01:42:26] whatever you were just like, here we go. Ready? Right. Ex Machina. I mean, I love him. I also had an issue. Gema, am I the only person who nominated him? It's just that he was on my

[01:42:38] runners up powerhouse, slow boil performance. You know, absolutely like has to nail the big emotional moment at the end of the movie does like, I don't know the actor really at all. The movie doesn't work without him. Spellbinding stuff. Keanu Reeves we've talked about,

[01:42:54] but I really do think it's such a self-aware, funny, sweet, emotional, you're talking about the stages that character goes through that gets to play comedy, that he gets to do his physical acting, that he gets to play really sort of low key drama,

[01:43:09] intimacy and be romantic as well. I mean, Cumberbatch, I feel like we don't have to talk about because just last week on this feed, we talked about for two and a half hours.

[01:43:16] It's a great performance. Some cuts. I'm sure you guys have plenty you want to talk about too, but I'm sure I have a few. I didn't have that many. Maybe not. I mean, it's a strong,

[01:43:26] it's a top heavy. I do like both of the Oscar nominated performances that we did not touch, which are Denzel and Will Smith. I think Will Smith is good in that movie. I think Denzel was fantastic in Macbeth. It's just, you know, I sort of wanted room for...

[01:43:43] It's also one of those things where... I really like his take on Macbeth is like this dude's tired. I will say I often have a hard time connecting to Shakespeare and I felt like he brought me

[01:43:53] into it more than most actors I have seen in a really, really savvy way. It is this thing that is kind of unfair where I saw it and I was like, right. Yeah, no, of course he's great at

[01:44:02] this. You don't get excited about it as much. That's sort of how I was too. I love Damon in Stillwater. I'm a big fan of Don Cheadle in No Sudden Move. That kind of like

[01:44:12] Oscar Isaac-y phenomenon of like, it's you giving a real performance. You're a good actor. It's been a minute. There's another obvious one that I feel like I'm forgetting. Adam Driver in Annette. Adam Driver's so good in that movie.

[01:44:28] That is a very committed performance from an actor who defines committed performances. But that is a throwing everything at the wall type performance. I do like it. Joaquin Phoenix in Come On, Come On, Just What We Needed, seeing him play a normal guy.

[01:44:44] What did you think of Dinklage in Cyrano? He was on a long runner-up. I think he's good. I liked that movie, but I more like it for the Joe Rightness, like all the theatricality. But I think he's totally good and I think they

[01:44:55] totally biffed getting him a nomination. I think they easily could have. I think they could have too. I have one more I want to throw out who truly might

[01:45:03] have been like my six or seven. It's not quite a Vin Diesel award because I do think he's very close. Throw it out. And I will admit this, of course, might be somewhat colored by sentimentality because

[01:45:18] of the events in between when I saw this movie and where we stand today. But I also felt this way when I saw the performance. Bob Odenkirk is incredibly good in Nobody. I think that movie is

[01:45:28] a mess. I think if he gave that same performance in a movie that I thought was dramatically functional, he'd probably be a slam dunk five for me. I have not seen it. I have not either.

[01:45:38] Okay. Okay. I think he's incredibly good to a degree that's almost underrated. And I think obviously the thing that everyone focused on was that he did all this training and he does all

[01:45:45] the fight choreography and all of that. But I think it is kind of incredible performance for a guy who I have always obviously loved and say often. How early in the year was that movie? April. Yeah, it was pretty early. It was sort of in the first.

[01:45:58] One of the first post-vax movies I saw. Right. Right. And I think that movie makes some incredibly stupid choices in terms of characterization that fucked him over a little bit. But he is unreal good. And as we stand today

[01:46:11] in the present day, I just want to constantly show more appreciation for Bob Odenkirk. We love Bob Odenkirk. A guy who it was scary to think about losing. Any other cuts you want to shout out, Griff or Joe? Joe, who is your winner? My winner is Simon Ricks.

[01:46:25] Wow. David, your winner was. Nishijima in Drive My Car. Best Actress. All right. Out to present best actress. We have Annette Bening. Oh, the 20th century woman herself. Toni Collette. Oh, the hereditary woman herself. Carrie Coon. Oh, the Nester self. Rooney Mara. Carol herself. I don't know.

[01:46:55] Not not correct. And Lupita Nyong'o. Oh, the French champagne. Oh, the French. What is I don't forget. I forget the character's name in Us. No, I know the movie. I just got the two. Well, red is the right. But I'm forgetting her other name.

[01:47:13] OK, my five nominees for best actress in a leading role in a leading role are Jodie Comer, The Last Duel. Rebecca Hall, The Night House. One of your faves. Been talking up all year. Virginie Efira. I don't pronounce her name. Benadetta. Oh, sure.

[01:47:30] Yeah, this is my run of the names that I'm going to fuck up. Oh, here we go. Agatha Rossell in Titan. Yeah. Is it a Agatha Rossell? Anyway, yes. The lead actress in Titan. And Renata Rensvee. Renata Rensvee. In the worst. For the worst person in the world.

[01:47:46] In the world. Very good. All right. Mine are Olivia Colman in The Lost Daughter. Look out. Penelope Cruz in Parallel Mothers. Look out. Look out. Jansa Juricic in Quo Vadis Aida. One of those movies I need to get around to. I've heard it's really good.

[01:48:04] And it was one of those that rode the line between, is it last year? Is it this year? Nicole Kidman in Being the Ricardos. And Renata Rensvee in The Worst Person in the World. Joe, you got some explaining to do. You got some explaining to do.

[01:48:19] I had to do it. There's the door, Nicole. You got some explaining to do. I think I said this to Griffin. I don't think that performance is bad on a technical level. I think it's actually good when taken on its own level.

[01:48:31] In dealing with like the language of the screenplay and like, you know, being such a demanding performer. It's good as a lead performance in a Sorkin film. Yeah. I just, I just, uh, yeah. I don't think it really makes any sense.

[01:48:41] I cannot, uh, what is the Tommy Lee Jones line? I cannot sanction its buffoonery. I mean, yes, it's like we all know Lucy Ball, Lucille Ball. And I'm like, comedy legend. The movie's like, no, no, no, no, no. Very persnickety boss. I'm like, okay, that's it. Goodbye. Right.

[01:48:58] Woman who constantly lists her accomplishments. I feel like that's a justifiable take on the material. I genuinely do. Like I- Joe. It's fine. It's fine. It's all right. No, I have truly zero problems with her performance in terms of what she was asked to do.

[01:49:12] I have problems with what the movie asked her to do and perhaps her casting as well. But I think she did her job well. Great performance. Is she going to win an Oscar? Or is she struggling, you know, whatever, peaked a little too soon in the narrative?

[01:49:25] The Chastain sag thing was interesting. That is a performance I defend a lot. Yeah. I mean, no offense to the Screen Actors Guild. Yes. Sure. Which you are a member. Correct. But they do vote like morons a lot of the time. So they can be tough as predictors.

[01:49:37] Sure. They often will make really strange winning decisions. I think what that did though is that- Emily Blunt best supporting actress of Quiet Place. Look, right. Not a bad performance. No. It's just an odd win. But a lead performance. No.

[01:49:49] But no, I think what that did was threw that category into- Further disillusionment. Just like now, like the, I think it's going to be so spread out that like the threshold for winning that category is going to be- I'm wondering if it's Coleman now.

[01:49:58] Kristen Stewart became the unambiguous least likely to win. Yes. I know. Having once been a front runner. She's the only one I can't see of that five. That's why I wonder if Coleman just benefits from the split.

[01:50:09] I've been saying for months that Coleman's going to win and I'm standing by that. And performance. Like, you know, yeah. Yeah. And she's just weirdly become like, it's funny that her Oscar speech was like, this is wild. This is never going to happen again.

[01:50:19] And now she's become like the new Judi Dench. Yeah. She's just become if she has a new movie, it's going to be an Oscar favorite because she's involved and she's going to get a slam dunk nomination. Yeah. It's very funny. Yeah.

[01:50:30] My nominees are Rene Asit Reinsveld in The Worst Person in the World, Alana Haim in The Krish Pizza, Penelope Cruz in Parallel Mothers, Olivia Coleman in The Lost Daughter and Rachel Ziegler in West Side Story. Uh, Ziegler, a late cut for me. Yeah. Luminous.

[01:50:46] Paula Beer and Andeen, a cut for me. Yeah. That mermaid. Incredible performance movie that fucking rips. Uh, Chastain was a short lister for me. That's of the Oscary performances of the year. That's the one that I like. I think those are really real cuts.

[01:51:03] Kristen Stewart was a close cut for me. I really liked that performance. I love Kasey, I struggle with that one. Um, Rachel Sennett in Chivvy Baby. I did love Chivvy Baby. Yeah, surprise. That didn't make it considering you gave Chivvy Baby other love. Yeah.

[01:51:15] In fact, you know what? Actually, maybe Kit Kidman out. Yeah. That's not in there. Stand it by it! Is she your winner? No, she's not my winner. Thank God. Thank God. All right. Calm down. Uh, Tilda Swinton in Memoria. That's a cut for me. I could, I imagine.

[01:51:29] I kind of was surprised that you didn't. She was in and out. That's a blind spot for me that I feel no embarrassment about because fucking stop making this movie so difficult to watch. It came out a week that cases were up and I was just like,

[01:51:40] I don't feel like going out this week. We were in the worst possible city to live in. That was what screwed them over. I know. And there was a moment where I had a stream, a streaming link to it.

[01:51:49] And I was like, I'm going to wait and hope that it circles back around. And it fucking didn't. I watched it on a streaming link. I wished I hadn't, but I did. Yeah. It's a very good movie whenever it comes to town. If it ever comes to town.

[01:52:01] I was fine with their plan if they actually fucking did. Well, there was this Omicron variant. I don't know. I think they just don't know what to do. But then at that moment, they should have just gone like, nevermind cute idea. Look, I don't. Yes.

[01:52:12] Rather than they're just doing neither. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know. Honor Swinson Burn is a cut for me. Sure. And souvenir part two. But do you have any other cuts?

[01:52:23] No, I think those are the ones that I mean, I've got anyone else. It was a very good year for more. More fit Clark in St. Maude, a very late cut for me. Oh, yeah. She really loved that performance. That's a good point. Vicky Creeps in Berglind Island.

[01:52:35] Quite good. Yes. Love creep. I mean, always. I'm always pro creeps. Yeah. I mean, I'll shout out Annabelle Wallace and malignant. Another very challenge, you know, big challenge. She's being thrown there. And she's really good. I love a case.

[01:52:50] If I didn't have five nominees were that strong, I would have pushed Annabelle Wallace in for the chaos of it. I still I love Malignant. I go back and forth between thinking, is that a great performance or is James Wan really

[01:53:03] clever for casting somebody who can only give a certain level of, you know what I mean? Just like I feel like the casting in that movie is part of the lulling the audience into where he wants you to be. Yes.

[01:53:17] He's casting that movie like it's a B movie. He's casting that movie like it's trash, but which is not to say that Annabelle Wallace is trash, but he's cast that movie as if it's a lower tier. Yes. So yes, I think she's incredibly good at that film.

[01:53:32] And I think you I'm a fan. It requires an actor with a very nonconventional understanding of what a performance can be to pull that off. You have to give her credit for intelligence for that. Yeah. Let me give you the blankie in lead performance.

[01:53:47] Number one, Ilana Heim, then Nicolas Cage, Benedict Cumberbatch, Dev Patel, who I didn't shout out, but I love that performance. Yeah, I mean, obviously falls a little bit into our past guests. Movie sexy, though. Yeah. Rachel's not Dev, but Larry. Yeah. Well, David Lauer, very intimate.

[01:54:05] Rachel Ziegler and West Side Story, Jodi Comer in the last duel. Renata Reinsphaugh, Simon Rex, Kirsten Stewart and Andrew Garfield. That is the 10 from the blankies. Okay. I want to say because you just brought it up again.

[01:54:16] I'm very surprised Jodi Comer didn't make your list as such a big last duel defender. I think that movie, in many ways, hinges on her being able to pull off that last third. She rules. I love Jodi Comer. She rules.

[01:54:29] And like, fucking Free Guy is one of those things where she gets that movie so much more than that movie deserves. I will now finally be watching Free Guy now that it is streaming on HBO or whatever. Right. Yeah. Technically a free watch.

[01:54:43] It's an Oscar nominee, so I do have to watch it. So. Oh, there you go. I don't have much love. Yes. I don't have much love for Free Guy. No. But it is one of those things where you're just like, this is a sheer charisma.

[01:54:54] No, I've heard similar praise for her. On a pretty superficial character. She really does a yeoman's work on that. And then a last duel is just the whole movie hinges on her perspective and her being able

[01:55:08] to play these very subtle differences in incredibly difficult scenes, which she does beautifully. An incredible performance as someone who doesn't watch the time TV and didn't watch Killing Eve. I think it also knocked me out more. Right. Yeah, sure. She was a little more surprised.

[01:55:22] Total shock for you or whatever. Yeah. Who's your winner? My winner would be the drum I've been banging all fucking year, it feels like, even though it's only been six months or whatever. Rebecca Hall in Nighthouse. You love that performance.

[01:55:35] An incredible performance that may be one of the best depictions of grief I have ever seen. It is stunning. Have you seen that movie? Oh yeah. There's the scene where they, what's her name? Sarah Goldberg from Barry is her friend. She's a school teacher.

[01:55:51] They invite her out for drinks. She's been grieving from the suicide of her husband. And this movie is so attuned to that weirdness of trying to treat someone who's gone through something very traumatic as if they're normal.

[01:56:08] We're just going to create a sense of normalcy for you rather than constantly grieving around you. And how quickly that person can hijack the situation, make it uncomfortable for everyone else. So they're trying to tiptoe around stuff.

[01:56:20] Someone asks her a question, she gets into it and she starts making overly casual jokes about the horrible things she's been living through. And it's that thing where her not being sad about it is more disturbing to everyone else around her. Right.

[01:56:33] It's not her only scene like that in the movie, but it is a thing I don't think I've ever seen an actor perfectly capture, which is that weird, angry humor coming out of like absolute depths of despair that becomes so unnerving to everyone else around them.

[01:56:51] An amazing performance by someone who had quite a year when you also look at passing. You will. And also she's my four time Freckle Face of the Year. I've been waiting. And for whatever it's worth, would have been my casting choice for who should have been

[01:57:05] the fucking Laysa Dupart in the last two Bond movies. Oh, I'm like, that's the version of that movie that maybe works for me. I think what he used to do is great in No Time To Die. I mean, nothing inspector performance wise completely works for me.

[01:57:19] It's tougher to argue for Spector. I mean, I could bring Joey Simpson here and he'll give you a Spector. He likes that. And then my other Benedetta to 10 and worst person in the world. Yeah. We talked about Benedetta extensively on that episode. Virginie, incredible.

[01:57:33] And talk about another like bizarre, almost Simon Rexie. Like, how did you see that there? Someone who is primarily a television presenter and a weather person who then became sort of a celebrity but not taken seriously as an actress given this incredibly good supporting role in

[01:57:50] Elle, but playing a very opposite character what she does in this. And she just fucking attacks it. Yeah. And to 10 is a it's like, I mean, she sort of gets the spot that I would have wanted to push Annabelle Wallace for of just like, yeah, physical commitment, energy.

[01:58:09] Yeah. Weirdness. Yeah, definitely. But but another person who had no previous acting experience was a dancer discovered on Instagram. And it was like a year spent on Instagram. I really like that performance. Yeah, I know that movie is polarizing. I really love that performance. Same.

[01:58:29] And I imagined we'll talk. She's my winner. Renata Reinspa. Marry me, Renata. That is a movie you pitch. You want to remake Marry Me? Yeah. Yes. I'm holding up a sign at the Cannes Film Festival. Cutest person in the world. A luminous performance.

[01:58:45] And I have nominated a lot of luminous performers this year because Alana Heim and Rachel Siegel are similar where I'm just like, oh, my God, the personality jumping out of the screen. Three star is born. Right. And it's like lightning and magic. Right. Is it specific?

[01:58:58] But like directors who have very much keyed into specific star qualities of these three people. And then the other two nominees I have are Cruz and Coleman, who are just like, yeah, very, very, very good actresses giving powerhouse performances like that demand a lot of them.

[01:59:12] I love Cruz. That movie confused me deeply. Sure. I like it as a movie. I think it's a star vehicle for her. I was really into it the last 20 minutes and then I went, I have no idea what the fuck this is.

[01:59:23] And it's not like there's a weird twist. It's just the movie kind of goes off in an odd cul-de-sac and then stays there. It becomes about a thing you weren't didn't weren't really thinking it was going to be about.

[01:59:31] It was not the thing I was most interested in. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I understand that. But like she's somebody I also think I think there's a chance she could win the Oscar too.

[01:59:38] Like I really think that that's not out of the question and that would be amazing. Yeah, I think she's great. Olivia Colman rules. My winner is actually Jansa Juricic for Quo Vadis Aida. Wow. Which is a movie I saw because it was a foreign language film last year,

[01:59:56] but it didn't get a release in the States until after the Oscars. And so this is what has been sort of in my back pocket for a while. And it was one of those movies just like it's hard to be like,

[02:00:05] can't believe nobody saw Quo Vadis Aida because like where were you like, where were you going to see this movie? And yet I want more people to even though it's very harrowing. Especially now in like the geopolitical times we're living in now to move a movie about like

[02:00:20] the Bosnian, you know, the war in Yugoslavia and whatnot. It's just like there's a lot of stuff but she's so really fantastic and just sort of commands that movie and she's incredibly sympathetic and sort of goes through a lot in it.

[02:00:35] And she plays the sort of mother, a wife and mother who is also an interpreter for you know, the government in the city that is being occupied. And she has to try and get her family out while also remaining to do her job.

[02:00:52] And it's very tense, but she's really incredible. I need to watch that movie. Yeah. Who's your winner, Joe? That's her. That's how you write. Yeah. Okay. So have you, have you said everyone that was my, yeah. Yes. Okay. Renata is my winner. We've done it.

[02:01:09] It was the only one all three of us shared. I believe so. Yes. I mean, how do you not? Yeah. No, I agree. Back to the blankies after these messages. David, relationships take. Baby, it's the blankies. All right. Well, before we get to director and picture. Yes.

[02:01:34] Are there any other awards we want to talk about? It's going to be a simple for directions that this is about to go in pretty much. Okay. But just kind of absurd to not nominate French dispatch in every craft category.

[02:01:48] And I think even the people who are cold on that movie. I know it's so good. Very strange. Very strange. I don't know what happened there except that it's happened before. The only one of his movies to get any nominations outside of screenplay or animated film is

[02:02:03] Budapest and otherwise it is bizarre that he never gets costume. He never gets our direction. He never gets cinematography. Yeah. Or I guess score music's the only other place. Right. But like, like Moonrise Kingdom. Yes. Only nominated for screenplay. Royal Tenenbaums famously only nominated for screenplay bizarrely.

[02:02:17] Obviously because Gene Hacker was the craziest. Life Aquatic goose egg. But that's the, yeah, life aquatic these anyway, I don't know what it is. Because it felt like Grand Budapest finally the breakthrough. They're going to recognize that every year you're going to have to fucking put his movies

[02:02:31] in all these categories. Well, that's why a lot of people thought the French dispatch was like a front runner a year ahead of time in terms of like this could be like a big best picture contender. It was going to open at Cannes. All this sort of stuff.

[02:02:41] And it's, I think a lot of with Wes Anderson is almost like who's getting to it first. Who's setting the tone on what the reaction to it is. And he's such a particular filmmaker that like if you're not on his wavelength, you're really not on his wavelength.

[02:02:55] And I'm going to talk about this movie more, but I do think that is a movie that perhaps is not best seen in a film festival setting. I think that was not the right way to introduce that movie.

[02:03:05] But here's, I want to call out a specific one that I think people aren't talking about. Watching movies second time I really keyed into, I'm sorry, what were you saying? I said Bruno. We don't talk about it. It was a joke about the content. That's for the kids.

[02:03:17] It's the moment we think is going to go viral. That's why we cut it. David had to make that show visual effects in French dispatch. Wonderful. Okay. Cause that's a movie that costs like $20 million and whatever it was almost 20 years ago. Life aquatic costs like $60 million.

[02:03:35] He insisted on building the whole fucking cost of four. All this sort of stuff. And you watch French dispatch. I don't know if there is a single shot in that movie that is not some sort of digital effect, but yet he makes the entire movie feel entirely handmade.

[02:03:49] And so much of that is that essentially every single shot in that movie is some sort of weird collage. He is no longer building extravagant sets. He's working very thrifty and very fast, building only a piece of it and then using models and matte paintings and digital effect.

[02:04:02] All these things to stitch it together where you have these incredible Vistas, you know, these incredible detailed layered nuanced environments, these immaculate frames, that's feel very analog. And it's a kind of movie where the digital effects are pretty invisible.

[02:04:17] And then you have sequences like the thing where he has like the frozen in time people on wire shit where it is actually practical. Yeah. But yeah, that movie fucking rules. Another movie I think deserves credit and craft categories is a bourbon star. Go to visit Del Mar.

[02:04:31] I mean, I love that movie. Great movie. We haven't talked about it yet, but a great movie. It does look phenomenal. It looks good. Yeah, like and it could so easily have looked like a cheap piece of shit.

[02:04:41] Yeah, like yeah, it's a comedy that has some actual fucking scale to it. Do you have cinematography nominees? I didn't write that down. I did write down. I have five voice performance nominees. I love a voice that I jotted down.

[02:04:54] Yeah, I got Olivia Colman and Mitchell's versus the machine and outstanding voice. She's so good. Yes. Jessica Darrow from Encanto, who is the surface pressure. The older sister. Really fun. Really great. Okay, really great performance. Jack Dylan Grazer and Luca, who I think is really, really good.

[02:05:15] Yeah, and that movie rips a fishy boy. Yeah, whatever. Luca. Yeah, go ahead. Little fishy boy. I'm not sure how to pronounce this, but a bay Griffiths, the baby in a net, the singing voice of the baby in a net. Oh, Joe. Baby Annette.

[02:05:31] And my best voice vocal performance. The guy who keeps going, baby. Yeah, that's true. I should have looked up who that is. And then Stephen Sondheim for a voicemail and take. We're going to talk about that in putters and murmurs as well.

[02:05:47] My animated film of the year is definitely Mitchell's versus the machine. Which I think is a really great movie, but flee is obviously very good. Flea to me is like a triumphant movie. It's good as a feat of animation.

[02:06:03] But Mitchell's versus machines is this really innovative bit of animation. Like, yeah, it's like got all these different styles that are mixed together and all that. As animation, it's kind of astounding. Katie Mitchell confirmed blanking. You've got to shout out Katie Mitchell.

[02:06:15] And that's a good performance, Abby Jacobson. Yeah. But I know you like Luca. I love Luca. I love Luca. One of the great last shots in an animated movie is Luca. Yes, and also a movie where especially watching it a second time really unlocked for me

[02:06:31] its power being in how modest it is. Yeah. I think it is somewhat radical to make a film that is sort of that emotionally and a narratively small scale and is comfortable with that.

[02:06:43] And it does feel like I feel like anytime there's a movie that has a little bit of that wistfulness and if people jump to say like American Ghibli. Sure. But that is a movie that actually feels kind of Ghibli-esque in its size and its concerns and

[02:06:55] its focus on the inner lives of its characters. I'll say this. Yes. I like Luca. And you probably haven't seen it yet, but Turning Red, which is about to come out. I can't wait to see Turning Red. Is so good. Really?

[02:07:07] The best thing Pixar has made in years. Fuck! Really? Yes. When did you watch it? Yesterday. What? And kind of blows Luca out of the water. But I don't like Luca as much. I really wanted to love Luca because I love Italians riding around vespas and all that.

[02:07:24] And I for some reason was sort of like under the weather. Too many Italians. Too many Italians, of course, my famous anecdote. But yeah, my animated film. I liked Crypto Zoo as well, but it kind of, you know, it's very interesting to look at.

[02:07:37] Crypto Zoo is one of those ones where it's like a cool idea and it's like it's different. It went on and on. But yeah, yeah. I am... I saw a very interesting animator. The Encanto performance that really jumped out for me was Diane Guerrero. Oh, as...

[02:07:48] That plays Isabella, the perfect older sister. I think everyone's fun in Encanto. I love... I really love Encanto. I like that house. I really love that movie. Yeah. All right. What are some other...

[02:07:58] Well, cinematography, I had Power of the Dog, Spencer, West Side Story, Dune in the Green. I mean, yeah, you know, whatever. I have jotted down because it's a such a big musicals year. I did write down five choreography nominations. Okay.

[02:08:10] I feel like choreography is one of those categories that should be at the Oscars. Cyrano for its little interludes into that sort of very sort of beautiful kind of like waltzing choreography. In the Heights, the 96,000 number in the pool, especially West Side Story.

[02:08:26] And then I went kind of weird for the last two. I put Malignant for fight choreography. I mean, it's really good. The fight choreography in Malignant is the best thing I've seen in quite a while. The scene in the prison, in the police station. Yeah.

[02:08:38] Did you read the interview with Nicolas Cage where he's talking about how he's going to play Dracula in the Renfield movie? And they were like, what are you pulling from? And he's like, I got really excited by Malignant.

[02:08:47] That's the first movie and new movie to give me ideas in a while. That's very promising. Yeah. And it's not really a group dance number, and I know it's not everybody's favorite, but Katrina Balfe dancing in Belfast. Now, I mean, that's some sexy stuff. That's the whole thing.

[02:09:06] I'm like, get this kid out of here. I don't give a shit. Well, I've stolen some sweets. I don't care. I'm also like maybe get the older people out of here. Maybe also get Jamie Dornan out of here. Maybe let me just watch her dance.

[02:09:16] I like what Dornan is doing. But yeah, that movie's Balfe is. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not even saying that like condescendingly. It's fine. I was so ready to love that movie. I was like, just my mouth is open. Stuff the ham sandwich inside.

[02:09:32] You told me like the most damning thing in the world is that that movie couldn't make me cry. And I couldn't have been more buttered up. That's what you told me after watching. Score. Do you guys have favorite scores? Obviously, I have Johnny Greenwood, Power of the Dog.

[02:09:44] Yes. And Hans Zimmer and Zoot Dune, who are Oscar nominees. Annette obviously had a very expansive, interesting score by the males. I really love Johnny Greenwood. Spencer score. Yes, I thought was kind of ignored because they all went to dog. I really loved Daniel Hart's Green Knight music.

[02:10:01] Yeah, some other nominee. The blankies nominated Dune, Power of the Dog, Annette, Spencer and Conto. But they also had the French Dispatch. Lovely score. Green Knight, West Side Story, Licorice Pizza. It doesn't really have a score, but whatever. No Time to Die.

[02:10:15] Licorice Pizza has a little bit of score. Very, very little. Yeah. Also with Johnny Greenwood. Yeah. I don't know. Any other scores you guys liked? I didn't jot down scores specifically, but the Spencer score, I think it was one.

[02:10:28] I agree with you that it would have been nice if that had been sort of a resurface. My favorite score of the year was on TV. Actually, it was the Station 11 score. The Dan Romer. We should listen to that. I love Dan Romer's score. It's a phenomenal score.

[02:10:39] I just want to give out a word here. I'm just looking here. Biggest, reddest dog goes to Clifford, the Big Red Dog. Offset. All right. I don't know, but drive my car. If you think about it metaphorically, it's a nice red dog. It's a nice big red dog.

[02:10:50] I could do biggest, reddest creature and then turning red would be an early front runner for next year. Yeah. If I want to make an evergreen category. That's the thing that's sort of underrated. It's like she doesn't turn into a regular red panda.

[02:11:01] She turns into a 10 foot tall red panda. That's cool. That fucking rules. Great movie about horns. I wanted some spillover room for supporting actress, so I created a category that is best performance as a witch or ghost. Okay. Which is where... Ben category. I know.

[02:11:16] I don't want to step on any toes or anything like that, Ben. But this is where Catherine Hunter for Tragedy of Macbeth shows up for me. Charlotte Rampling in Dune as a Bene Gesserit who is part nun, part witch. I feel like there's a... Absolutely. She's a witch.

[02:11:30] Sure. Yes. This basically the reason I created this category is because I wanted to give something to Serena Chaudhary for Green Knight. Incredible. Who was not in that movie enough to really crack supporting actress.

[02:11:40] I thought about it and I was similarly like, it would be maybe a bit of a stretch. It would be a stretch, but like... Serena Chaudhary, by the way, have you guys seen After Yang yet? Oh yeah.

[02:11:48] I don't want to spoil much about After Yang, but it begins with opening credits in which every member of the cast does a dance. And her... It's one of those... I sat down for the movie and I was like, I know Colin Farrell is in this.

[02:11:59] I don't really know anything else. And so you're seeing almost every cast member in this opening credit sequence before you meet them in the movie. And when she pops up and pops off... It's amazing. It's spellbinding. You almost want to jump out of your seat. Yeah.

[02:12:12] You're kind of like... It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. An actress who's great in... Hologram for the King movie. I've now decided I'm going to make a running bid of bringing up as much as I can. I love Serena Chaudhary. Yeah, same.

[02:12:23] Jennifer Ehle and Saint Maud, which is not really fitting the category exactly. Whatever. She counts. She's scary. And then finally... Maybe she's the devil. We don't know. We don't know. I mean, we kind of know, but maybe...

[02:12:33] And then Timothy Spall and Spencer, who I genuinely believed was dead for most of that movie. I mean, I like that performance. I do too! No, just me. The shining of it all, right? Like, they're just like... It's just like, are you? Is this guy dead?

[02:12:46] Is he maybe dead? He's definitely got evil bartender from the shining energy. Yep. Now, I feel like both of you at different points in the year, threw out predictions of performances you thought might qualify for putters and murmurs. I mean, to me, there's a runaway winner. There was...

[02:13:00] Look, for me, there's one that I saw the second it showed up on screen. I went, this has to be it. Look, again, I wish the car from driving my car counted, but it's not really a putter. That thing rides smooth. Yeah, that's true. Sorry.

[02:13:11] It's not like Goofy's jalopy. There's... I don't think it's the one that either of you predicted, but there was one where when it popped up on screen, I went, this has to be it. Can I hear your predictions, Beau?

[02:13:21] My winner for putters and murmurs is Bradley Whitford in Tick Tick Boom. This is what you told me when... Bradley Wesley puttering and murmurs. That's a great one. All murmurs. Who is your putterer or murmurer? I mean, as soon as I saw Pig,

[02:13:33] I sort of jotted down Nicolas Cage as an early favorite. Certainly. And I feel like you said to me, like, is that a case where someone could win best actor and putters and murmurs? I think I texted you that. The Turner. Not a movie that I liked,

[02:13:44] but I thought Mark Rylance in that movie in Don't Look Up is a classic archetype. It's almost more of a grumbles and mumbles. Well, he's got a little though. I mean, of course, yes. Grumbles and mumbles, which was...

[02:13:58] There was also mumbles and muffles and stutters and stammers and flowers and frowners last year. Yeah. Well, apparently we also gave a best supporting thermos performance. Oh, Halloween, of course. Yeah. That was a tough category last year. I had a couple... We have one this year.

[02:14:12] Is there a good thermos? No, I can't think of one. I jotted down best whispers and shushers, which is a Adassa as Dolores Madrigal in Canto, who whispers her way through that movie. Yeah, I love that character. Croakers and lurkers was Catherine Hunter in the Treasure of Macbeth.

[02:14:29] Perfect. Hunters and strutters, which is my John Magaro in Many Saints of Newark as Silvio Dante. That performance is the most unhinged performance of the year. It's the most unhinged performance of the year.

[02:14:40] Why in the world did you feel like you needed to give Silvio a signature walk? And yet... It's like he watched The Sopranos through a telescope. Yeah. I'm like, what do you think you are doing? But the wrong end of a telescope.

[02:14:51] Yeah, I spent half the movie being like, who is he playing? Right. I was like, he's supposed to be Silvio? Like, wait a second. It's amazing. Incredible. And then finally, clangers and whistlers for the pipes and the humans. Okay.

[02:15:05] Oh, great pipe work in the humans, by the way. The humans is about these kids. The daughter of a family is throwing Thanksgiving in her new apartment, which she's just moved into. So it's empty.

[02:15:16] And the apartment is kind of like haunted in a New York City way where there's a lot of bangs and weird groans and noises. And you're like, is this just Neighbors and the Pipes? Or are we about to die? Like kind of weird.

[02:15:26] The only New York City movie that ever made me feel like I should leave New York City. It's got an intense energy. Griff, who is your runaway putterer? Runaway putterer. It's a small performance, but it's almost like a skill piece kind of win.

[02:15:41] Stephen Root in the tragedy of Macbeth. Oh, very good. Someone who was able to, with less than five minutes of screen time, successfully putter and murmur his way through Shakespeare. He does putter so well. While being coherent.

[02:15:55] And look, obviously one of the all-time great putters and murmurs when he wants to be. Right? But the fact that he was able to do it with that material. Yeah. And not at the expense of the movie. That movie came in late, but you're right.

[02:16:10] I loved Sondheim, but the second that performance came on screen, I went, I'm in love. You haven't seen my number one putters and murmurs though. And I'm interested to see Brenda Dease Dice in Red Rocket, who actually has just recently passed away.

[02:16:24] She is a good putter and murmur. She's the mother-in-law in Red Rocket. And it is classic putters and murmurs. I want to remind people that that first year where all three of us gave Michael B. Jordan best actor. Yeah.

[02:16:37] My close number two was Ian McKellen in Mr. Holmes. Right, who originated this. And I felt so bad that I was snubbing him that I gave him putters and murmurs as a consolation prize. A thing that has now just become an ironclad must address. That's history. Yep.

[02:16:52] I track it throughout the year, Griffin. You all do. I'm trying to think of some other ones. Okay. Jada Pinkett Smith in The Matrix Resurrections. Yeah. She putters. Yep. Rufus Sewell in Old. Yes. He murmurs. Now, there's not a lot of puttering. No. But he murmurs a lot.

[02:17:06] He does. The fish dad in, not the fish dad, the human dad in Luca sort of is. He's more of a mumbles and grumbles. He's a mumbles and grumbles. You're right. You're right. Yeah. I mean, Sean Harris in The Green Knight murmurs a lot. Yeah. Doesn't really putter.

[02:17:22] He's stationary. He sits. Yeah. Right. Sits and murmurs. The puttering is really important. It is important. It is. You need the physicality of it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I guess those are the main ones. Because if we lose sight of the puttering, it just becomes.

[02:17:38] It's like what's happening to the Oscars right now. Right. Right. It becomes least enough. Tarnishing the brand. Right. Right. Yeah. Which is not the spirit of the category. Best Director. All right. Out to present Best Director, we have Luca Guadagnino, Bong Joon-ho,

[02:17:58] Steve McQueen, George Miller and Kelly Reichardt. International smorgasbord. Yeah. And Kelly Reichardt. Again, just a group you want to hang with. Like a continental breakfast. Can we stack them tallest to smallest? Yeah. Because Kelly Reichardt's like an even 4'8". I feel like Bong is really tall.

[02:18:17] Like, I feel like there's a good. Yeah. Bong is weirdly tall. Is Luca Guadagnino tall? Is Luca tall? Yeah. The internet could tell us. Six feet tall. All right. Not as tall as me, but you know, whatever. My nominees for Best Director of a Motion Picture are

[02:18:33] Joachim Schrier, worst person in the world. Did I say his name wrong? No, you got it. I think. Paul Schrader for The Card Counter and Another Good Year of Facebook Posts. All W's on that. All W's. Never taken an L. Not once.

[02:18:49] Jane Campiana for The Power of the Dog. Wes Anderson for The French Dispatch. And Wrigley Scott for The Last Duel. Ridley, Wrigley, Scott. Old Wiggly. Wow, making your ballot. I know. Good for you.

[02:19:05] It's one of the few times that I feel I've been fully Ridley-pilled as much as I do like a lot of his movies. But this year I was like, that's some fucking directing. Yeah. Joe. All right. I made a last minute change. We're all very excited. All right.

[02:19:18] Wes Anderson in The French Dispatch. Yes! You talked me into it, Griffin. Thank you. So good job. Thank you. David Lowery for The Green Knight. Jane Campion for The Power of the Dog. Lin-Manuel Miranda for Tick, Tick, Boom. Wow. And Steven Spielberg for West Side Story. David Simms.

[02:19:35] Jane Campion, Power of the Dog. Steven Spielberg, West Side Story. Steven Spielberg, West Side Story. I'm just going to nominate a couple. No, I'm kidding. Joachim Trier, Worst Person in the World. Pitcha Pong, We're Scythical. Or Memoria. That's the one I'm tripping over.

[02:19:48] And Paul Thomas Anderson for Liquorish Pizza. Those are my nominees. The blankies nominated Jane Campion, Denis Villeneuve, Steven Spielberg, Paul Thomas Anderson, and David Lowery. Villeneuve was the one I bumped off at the last minute. That's what the Oscars did. Yeah. I'm surprised you bumped them too, Dave.

[02:20:08] I'm a straight top five almost always. It's very rare for me to bump someone on my top five. And Dune is my... Well, we'll get to it. Yeah. But it isn't my top ten. I do think that's a... It's one of those ones where it's just like

[02:20:19] just the undertaking of it all. I appreciate it. No, it's a wonderful piece of story. He rules. Nice fun bonus points for trying to stick it to Warner Brothers as often as he tried to do this year. Very much in his corner on that.

[02:20:33] I mean, I don't want to even talk about Runners-Up because we'll talk about it in the best picture, I suppose. Lin-Manuel Miranda is my sort of outlier from the two of y'all. And I mostly just feel like... I think that's a great...

[02:20:43] I mean, we talked about it when I mentioned the screenplay. That is a really, really difficult bit of adaptation. And I think he gives every little part of that movie just a ton of care and energy and invests in it. Yeah.

[02:20:58] Just like everything feels infused with, you know, intent and energy. And a lot of people fail spectacularly trying to fossy their way around the conception of cinematic musical numbers. And he actually has some really interesting ideas in that movie. He's my Runner-Up for first film.

[02:21:20] Maggie is my Runner-There. I should have done the first film, but yes. Yeah. Well, we have to do that at the Critics Circle, so I didn't think about it. Yeah. But anyway, Griff, who's your winner? My winner for Best Director,

[02:21:33] once again in the name of spreading the wealth, would be Jane Campion. Jane Campion! Jane Campion. Probably going to win the Oscar. Probably going to win the Oscar. My winner is Ryo Kamtrior. Who you got? I got Campion. She's pretty good.

[02:21:44] Yeah, she's pretty good at what she does. Yeah. We love her. Do we just roll straight through to Best Picture? Yeah, why not? Okay. I think so. Best Picture. I didn't have, I didn't know who we could have done for- Saul Zanz. Saul Zanz, right, exactly.

[02:22:04] Famed producers of yesteryear. Come on, give us some. I mean, all the ones that jump into your head are disgraced and not worth talking about. So yeah, Saul Zanz it is. He comes out alone. He comes out alone. The Ghost of Saul Zanz. Why am I here?

[02:22:18] All right. Well, Griffon. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to say it. Just do it. I waffled on whether or not I could do it, but I'm going to do it because if I don't do it, I'm being dishonest.

[02:22:27] Once again, this position I found myself in several times before. My number 10 movie of the year is F9. Very good. I just gotta be honest. That's fair. Where do I have F9 in my list? I like that movie. We do love the movies. I have it 62nd.

[02:22:41] Okay, well actually go fuck yourself. I do really like that movie. No, no, I know, I know, but I'm just saying actually in all earnestness, go fuck yourself. I understand. Number nine, Undine. Number eight, The Card Counter. Number seven, The Last Duel. Number six, Benedetta. Number five, Titant.

[02:22:58] Number four, Pig. Pig. Number three, The Power of the Dog. Number two, The Worst Person in the World. Number one, The French Dispatch. That's your movie! That's my movie, baby. Very good. Good numbers. Yeah. Numbers. Good numbers. Good numbers. Very good. Good job with the numbers. Thank you.

[02:23:16] All right, mine are number 10, The Green Knight. Number nine is Flea. Number eight is Pig. Number seven is Tick Tick Boom. Six is Petit Maman. Five is Covardis Ida. Four is Red Rocket. Three is Shiva Baby. Two is West Side Story.

[02:23:35] And number one is The Power of the Dog. Wow. Farf, farf. The blankies, I should shout them out, of course, had... I'll go 10 to 1. Worst Person at 10. Pig at 9. Last Duel, 8. Matrix at 7. Drive My Car at 6. Green Knight at 5. West Side Story at 4. Dune at 3.

[02:23:52] Power of the Dog 2. Licorice Pizza was their best picture. Mine are number 10, The Card Counter. Number nine, Dune. Number eight, The Matrix Resurrection. Number seven, The Green Knight. Number six, Drive My Car. Number five, West Side Story. Number four, Power of the Dog. Number three, Memoria.

[02:24:12] Number two, Licorice Pizza. Number one, The Worst Person in the World with a bullet. Wow. Yeah, I know. Yeah. My list has been up all year. Everyone knows what my top one is. But I do love to update it. Mm. That's what I love to do.

[02:24:25] Constantly update lists. Constant influx. Yeah, I mean, I've kept my Letterboxd list unranked all year, which is fun, because once every two weeks someone will go, is this ranked? Yeah. Furious that The Little Thing still seems to be my number one movie of 2021.

[02:24:40] It would be a hot take. It would be. That's why they're just like, what is the argument here? Letter covers the letters? No, that's more of a Snivels and... Yeah. After Yang, again, coming out next year. Oh, yeah. That's a movie where every actor has putters and merculs.

[02:24:58] I think that's right. I think that's right. Koganata gets it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are... Yeah. What a lovely year for cinemas. I think it was a really good year. I think it was a very good year.

[02:25:08] I was very happy to have been able to see everything that I did. I wound up... This was my festival-iest year ever, actually, even though I only was able to attend New York in person,

[02:25:20] but I was able to do Sundance and TIFF and New York all together for the first time ever, which was pretty rad. Yeah, it's a good... I'm happy with my top 10. It was an incredibly competitive top 10.

[02:25:33] I kept shuffling a lot of things into those last sort of few spots. If French's Badge just kind of knocked me away when I saw it, and what, it came out fairly early in the season? In September? September, right?

[02:25:44] But I'd already heard three months of people being pretty lukewarm on it for festivals. It had gone over okay at first. My expectations were lowered, and I fucking love Wes Anderson, but I'm not a straight simp for him.

[02:25:54] There are certainly movies of his that I dislike or like to lesser degrees. And this is... Like, it's a top three movie of his for me. And I think the more ornate his films become, the more in your face his craft becomes. Yeah. Absolutely.

[02:26:12] I think a lot of people understandably get suffocated by that. But the one complaint I always find very frustrating is when people say, like, his movies aren't about anything. Right. Because I think increasingly, whether successfully or not, he is probing more and more into things.

[02:26:27] And I also think he is using the artifice and the sort of style of his movies to comment on these ideas of presentation and authorship and culture and society and all those sorts of things.

[02:26:39] And French Dispatch is like such an amazing ode to the idea of authorship in a way. Right. Because it's so much about, like, these three stories. But these three stories are defined by who is telling them, their perspective, their perception of this event,

[02:26:55] this subject, this person, this art, whatever it is. And then the added level to it, the thing that kind of knocks me out about that movie is that, like, it is weirdly the entire movie a eulogy for a guy who has less than five minutes of screen time,

[02:27:09] who in so many ways is like a very incidental character. Right. And yet by the end of the movie, you do feel, for me at least, this sense of emotional grief for this guy who you didn't really know because the whole point was he was this invisible hand.

[02:27:22] Right. His life's work was this rich kid who took his fucking father's money and shacked up in this odd town in France and gave a bunch of weird expats the freedom to find subjects that no one else was going to write about. Right.

[02:27:33] And what he did was just let them do that. And when he died, they buried him in the middle of a field. They gave him an editor's burial. Right. Right. And this is his last testament. No crying, you know, no sentimentality.

[02:27:45] Well, remember after the 2016 election and there had been the sort of the immediate reactions, whatever. One of the things, the sort of rallying points was we got to support the press. A free press is going to be like Meryl Streep's, like,

[02:27:57] Cecil B. DeMille acceptance speech, like, ended with this rallying cry of, like, we have to support a free press. It's going to be our first line of defense against whatever is coming. And it felt like a lot of people then were maybe like there was,

[02:28:08] you know, people doing their sort of like ode to journalism and the press or whatever. And I was like, this ends up being Wes Anderson in the Wes Anderson-iest way possible. Sort of this is what his ode to a well-funded free press. Absolutely.

[02:28:24] Ends up being is this very particular, you know, a world that has never quite existed, but in many in our, you know, in shades of our memory is it sort of did. Which I think is what the more his films get masked and artifice,

[02:28:38] the more he's commenting on the idea of why we would want things that were this sort of ornate and immaculate and whatever. After I mentioned Cam Collins wrote an incredible letterbox review of Frances Bachelet touched on a lot of things I like.

[02:28:50] But for me, the two things that are like just master strokes in that movie are, and there's so many stylistic conceits that the first time I found it overwhelming, could not decipher why he was doing much of what he was doing.

[02:29:03] But the use of color the second time for me, when he decides to pop in, because the stories are mostly black and white, really kind of unlocked what his interests are there, which is. Can you find moments of pure transcendent beauty in the world,

[02:29:18] whether they are the work that someone makes or an experience or a person, the idea of their life, what it's able to inspire, whatever. Those are the kinds of sparks that if you capture as a writer,

[02:29:27] you're able to communicate that people can actually change the world in some microscopic way, perhaps. Big orange caftan. But the other thing is every one of those stories has the final little coda beat of Bill Murray editing the story.

[02:29:38] And the difference between those four and how he approaches those four writers and the idea that he is not a good editor because he has his house style, but that he knows how to nurture these four people and understand what they're trying to do

[02:29:49] and get the best out of them. I find that movie like unbearably emotional. You guys want to make your cases for your number one? I mean, that dog was really powerful. Really powerful. Just really powerful. I loved that movie.

[02:30:03] I mean, it's whatever it's going to, it's getting all it's If and I just lathered our brains on it. Yeah. You know, quite a, quite a film. Obviously we've talked about West Side Story. Shiva Baby is unbearably tense and also incredibly funny. Red Rocket we talked about.

[02:30:19] I mean, by this time in the, you know, in the podcast, we've talked about everything. I didn't really talk about Flea too much, but David, you mentioned it a little bit. It's a really, really wonderful little movie. Yeah. I don't know.

[02:30:32] I like all the movies that I said that are in my list. As always with not just the blankies, but like, you know, I am done with 2021 in film. Like you've had to, right.

[02:30:44] I've sort of gone over it so you can read my praise of worst person or you can come at me, bro, or whatever. You can text me. So what's the best one on 2022 so far? My number one is After Yang so far. You know, it's very early.

[02:30:58] Let me check here. My number one is Jackass Forever. Narrowly beating out Blacklight. Hotel Transylvania, Transylvania, Transformania, Moonfall. I've done my thing where like January and February is pretty much still 2021 catch up for me. The year has just started. Right.

[02:31:14] The movies I've seen this year have not been movies. Have you, have you charted? I'm still, I am still uncharted. Will you be seeing the Batman before you go on your cruise? No, right? I don't think so. I mean, how could you really?

[02:31:27] There are a couple of ways I could do it, but I'm probably not going to do it. The other thing is I unfortunately have not yet witnessed the power of dog. Oh, I also have not lined up for dog or far, but I would like to see it.

[02:31:40] Yeah. The Channing Tatum spring is, uh, is upon us. Bark, bark, bark, bark. Ben, do you have any awards for us? He's picking up the microphone. I got the microphone. All right. We're like two hours. It's always long. I know. And I'm tired. I'm tired too.

[02:31:58] I can wrap it up. Entertaining. You've had guests. Yes, we have had guests, uh, at my home and we're about to get on a boat. So we're going to go to get a week off. I'm going to keep it short and sweet this year. Y'all all right.

[02:32:09] I got some, I got some original categories of my own that I've been doing again. If you're a new listener and somehow made it this far to congratulations, congrats, fucking lations. Anyway, here we go. All right.

[02:32:23] So normally I start out, I have this whole thing where I'm like, what if you remake? And then, you know, it's like with babies, with animals, I'm switching things up this year. Okay. Right. So I'm changing the conceit. Okay. Okay. Instead of like, what if you redid?

[02:32:37] What if you just took something out? Oh, addition by subtraction. Right. Wow. Okay. Correct. So, okay. First up, the comedy and don't look up too much of too many laughs. I don't know, Ben, though, because Jimmy Kimmel scolded us for nominating these very serious, boring movies.

[02:32:56] Like don't look up instead of Spider-Man, the austere refined art house sensibility of don't look up rather than a populist movie like Spider-Man. Sorry to be so controversial. You're brave. You're brave. I know I am. Thank you.

[02:33:11] Another thing I'd love to just have taken out of the film is the excitement of Nightmare Alley. Just too excited. Wow. Body blow. Like I felt my heart just beating at such a fast rate the whole time. I was worried for my health. Yeah.

[02:33:32] You thought you might have to. Is there a doctor in this movie theater? Truly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Too much reality and realism and house of Gucci. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That you were like, is this a documentary? Oh my God. Is this Barrette? What's going on? Yeah.

[02:33:48] Wild, wild. Just take that old guy out of Deer Evan Hansen. Oh wow. What was up with that guy? He's old. How did he just want to beach? Yeah. Can I tell you? Yeah. Wandered on set or something. Universal had both of those movies.

[02:34:01] They could have just cut it in. It would have made the movie work better probably. Yeah. All right. So moving on, of course we have each year the Weddy's movies. I like to reward the golden mop for achieving great moments in moisture, wetness.

[02:34:19] Truly the puppy bowl to our Superbowl. Really? So the films that have soaked the best. Slick flicks. They've soaked through 2021. Yeah. It's gone to the floorboards. It's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also in the years past, I've picked movies that made me cry.

[02:34:37] And I just decided to zero in on just really one film. Because I think it just achieved wetness in a lot of different ways. No nominees, just one award. Give one award or situation. Yeah, exactly. And it's licorice pizza. And it's because they flood a fucker's house.

[02:34:53] They do flood a fucking house. And he deserves it. And it's entertaining as fuck. And they sell waterbeds. And they sell waterbeds. And they're sweaty. And you know, come on. There's a gas crisis. Yeah. That's a liquid. That is interesting.

[02:35:05] Because gas crisis leads me to my next new thing. Keep this guy. I want 20 minutes of this, Ben. I'm just luxuriating right now. We need a little more episode time. Okay.

[02:35:18] Well, you know, in the years past, I've also revealed to myself to be somewhat of a dry guy. You become a dry guy. Sure. And so I thought, why not? If I have a wet category, why not add a dry category? Sure.

[02:35:32] I haven't come up with a better name other than The Drys. So I'm open for, you know, any kind of input on that one. Sure. And so the golden broom this year goes to West Side Story. Because the movie is so, so dusty. And such a delightful way.

[02:35:48] Mountains of salt? Oh my God. Yeah. Very dry. Salt. Oh, the salt. What about, I just want to say, Dune! Yeah, Dune! Motherfucker! Dune! Set on a no moisture planet. It's about spice. And they're surrounded by a different type of granular material. I had Dune on here.

[02:36:05] Look, see, you can see across it out. Okay, he can cross it out. Okay, so there is proof. It's too obvious. And also because I just, I think West, I would have enjoyed to sweep the set of West Side Story. You know what I'm saying? Dune feels unsweetened.

[02:36:20] I would love to have a golden broom to sweep up that set. I can tell you an anecdote that Spielberg revealed on the DJA podcast, which is Janusz Kaminski, the cinematographer, kept adding puddles to the set because he loves, you know,

[02:36:34] lights bouncing out of a puddle and all that. And people, the producer would be like, you can't do this. You're going to hurt someone. Like one of these dancers is going to slip in the puddles and they kept like drying his puddles up. Like Janusz was basically like,

[02:36:47] come on, I want a swimming pool of water out there. Anyway, so wet and dry. That's amazing. That's incredible. It's a good one. Wow. And then the classic category, um, no thank you. Um, no thank you. No again. So nothing's being replaced with fruit or babies or anything?

[02:37:03] No, no, no. It was subbed out. I know, I know. There'll be an outcry. There will be. There will be an outcry. There will be an outcry. I'm sure there will be. There will be pushback. Kevin Del Toro is going to complain.

[02:37:14] This is not the right year to do this. Cinema's still recovering. I get the body blow to me, but why do this? Okay. So yeah, so um, no thank yous. It's pretty self-explanatory. And again, I'm sorry. I, uh, you know, I nominate multiple movies normally,

[02:37:33] but there's really just one winner. I don't think this should come as a surprise, but just in case, I don't know. I'll just come right out and just say a big old, um, no, thank you to being the Ricardos.

[02:37:48] That shit looks miserable and awful and just not entertaining in the least bit whatsoever. I could not, couldn't pay me to do it. Sure. I, you would have to chain me down. Just to explain to people who don't know, um, no thank yous

[02:38:00] are movies Ben refuses to watch. No thank you. Don't need it. Any other, um, no thank yous or is that the winner? And then of course I just have a couple of honorable mentions.

[02:38:07] So first of all, another new kind of just thing, uh, that I might start up. We'll see how it goes if I want to keep doing this. Uh, anyway, I'm starting off with the I'm sorry. And the I'm sorry is I really, I'm sorry to the father.

[02:38:22] That movie fucked me up. I was so negative on it. I was like, there's an old guy and it seems like it's about senility and it seems really depressing. I watched it on a plane. I cried my fucking life away. It's an incredible film. Okay.

[02:38:35] Now just, I just, for perspective, I do want to remind people that you did also cry your eyes out on a plane at the opening scene of Paw Patrol, the movie, a film you did not have headphones on for, and we're watching

[02:38:45] over the shoulder of the person sitting in front of you. That is correct. Scene in which a car swerves out of the way to not hit a dog on a bridge. Oh, that sounds good.

[02:38:56] But then the car is hanging down off the bridge and the dog saves the car. They saved the guy because he's a good guy. Obviously he swerved out of the way to want to hit the, all right, we can't get into this. Ben's crying. Yeah.

[02:39:07] That's the real power of the dog. That's the real power. That is the real power of our dog. Okay. Best pig goes to pig. Of course. Of course. What a good pig. Best. No offense to pig. You're cat. No, I know. Sorry, pig.

[02:39:21] You always are in my heart. Best mullet goes to Matt Damon in the last duel. Absolutely. Fucking killer haircut. Unbelievable. Killer. One of the hair work in that hair cuts that goes bad all the way around. You're going to get like a horseshoe haircut. Yeah, it's amazing.

[02:39:35] All right. And then lastly, I just want to say, uh, honorable mention of historical psychedelia to green night, because I think that's just like a really interesting thing. I've never seen before. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I wanted to grab Coleridge and just like read some fucking

[02:39:52] Kubla Khan ass shit. You know, after seeing that movie, I love it. Anyway, that's me. Ben Hosley on blank check. Seventh annual blankie awards. My original categories. We did it guys. It's the end of the episode. Take us away.

[02:40:08] Well, you know, people are still reeling from the shock that we reposition and restructure the entire ceremony to build up to movie I would replace with dogs or babies. Right? Of course. I know animals or babies or fruit, whatever the category was.

[02:40:24] I'm just saying we restructured the entire ceremony to build up to that as the final award, because we thought that was going to be the most emotional point of the night. Of course. And unfortunately now there's no winner. Then Anthony Hopkins won best actor instead. And right.

[02:40:37] So walking, just standing on stage, patting his legs and we're going to whip pan over to quest love who now has to by default act like the host and go. Thank you for tuning into the crazy insane thing that happened. 2022 seventh annual blankie awards.

[02:40:53] Thank you all for listening. Thank you to Joe Reed. Thanks for having me once again. I don't know. This had Oscar buzz. Yeah, this had Oscar buzz. Come listen to my cohost Chris file and I talk about movies that were positioned for Oscars in

[02:41:07] one way or another and didn't make it. We are on Twitter at had underscore Oscar underscore buzz. By the time you listen to this, our latest episode on Margaret will be a few weeks old, but going to that one is a best of the decade.

[02:41:20] One of my favorite episodes that we've done. I can't wait to listen. Love people talking. Margaret, Dave and I both been on the show. Yes. Did an episode on Jude Law's Alfie. I know we'll have to have each of you back at some point. Two 2004 A's. Yes.

[02:41:33] Alexander and Alfie. Or maybe 2005. When will they combine the two of them together? So check that out. Thank you all for listening. Please remember to rate, review and subscribe. Thank you to Marie Barty, voice of the blankies, much like Peter Coyote, the Donald Sutherland of this podcast.

[02:41:49] And for social media and for building with her bare hands, blank check pod.com. A great new website. You can go to check out a bunch of things. March Madness is in full swing, but also you got links now to merge and Reddit and discord

[02:42:03] and Patreon and all these other things. And speaking of on the blank check Patreon, we're doing the matrix commentaries. We've gone back to the matrix after mentioned last to get cookie. Just be warned. I mean, guys, we talked about Rachel's resurrection is a lot already. Yes.

[02:42:17] So that a commentary. If you like, that's almost an oops all lunch order. Like it's not, but it has that. We're pretty locked in for Reloaded and Revolutions. I think Reloaded is exactly what you all want out of this episode. It's David going hard into. I'm trying.

[02:42:32] You're in the pain. But yes, Resurrections is chaos. And keep on for March Madness, both on our Patreon for franchises and main feed for who will be the winner of the 20th century bracket to next week for the start of our next mini series podcast, me to hell.

[02:42:50] We've already announced it. We have get out of here. Oh, that's fun. So next week, a nice classic guest list episode of the Evil Dead. That's right, baby experience. Good movie. Yeah. Here's the thing about that movie that I really like the filmmaking. It's very good.

[02:43:08] Ramy is already fun. We've done a handful of them and it's it's just fun to watch those movies. Easy. That's especially the early ones. You're just like butter. What energy this guy's got. And as always, Joe, you do have some splainin to do about that.

[02:43:23] Nicole can be nominated. I'm Marie Barty and this has been the seventh annual Blank Check Awards with music by the Alex Baron Orchestra, illustrations and graphics created by Joe Bowen and Pat Reynolds, produced by AJ McKeon, executively produced by Ben.

[02:43:48] Promotional consideration for the blankies provided by Chip Coin, the official currency of the moon. The Lumiere Brothers Factory. Walking out of work, walking into film history. Water. Did you remember to drink some today? Dan Lewis's shack of subs. He retired from acting. He's making sandwiches now. Bronco Henry.

[02:44:10] Radio Shack. Fran Magazine. Votes for the seventh annual Blank Check Awards were tabulated and certified by the accounting firm of Fernst and Young. Special thanks to Jack Reed, Party Bluejay and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Blankies for their contributions.

[02:44:33] So we're up to H-A-P-P-Y on the birthday sign. Seriously. Do we want to run through some screenplays quickly before we get to the lead actor? Yeah. I also just want to say I've been recording for an hour and 20 minutes. So I think we should maybe...

[02:44:50] We're going to speed it up. We're just talking about screenplays! I'm not mad, I'm just saying. You sound mad. You sound furious. Be honest. I'm mad. Okay. Very mad. I'm just going to say my screenplays very quickly. Yeah, the screenplays are always obviously quicker.