The Visit with Louis Peitzman

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[00:00:31] And number 4. Podcast

[00:00:35] I thought you were just going to go with don't ever leave your room after podcasting

[00:00:39] Oh, I thought about that

[00:00:40] I thought that was clunky

[00:00:42] I also thought this is the last one so let's get like metatextual and just make the

[00:00:46] Just say podcast

[00:00:48] Very metatextual

[00:00:50] It's very metatextual

[00:00:52] Hi everybody my name is Griffin Newman

[00:00:54] My name is David Sims

[00:00:55] Welcome to Blank Check with Griffin and David

[00:00:57] This is a podcast where we investigate directors, their filmographies

[00:01:00] People were given a blank check early on in their career

[00:01:03] Mr. McIntosh comes to their door and says you can make whatever movies you want

[00:01:07] Mr. McIntosh?

[00:01:09] The fake name of the kid, the company that the kid in Blank Check starts

[00:01:13] Did not remember that from the film Blank Check

[00:01:16] Oh yeah, no there's a part where he's at the computer and they go

[00:01:19] What name do you want to open the account under

[00:01:21] And he looks at the little apple on his computer

[00:01:23] And he goes Mr. McIntosh

[00:01:25] I didn't know, did you think Apple paid for that?

[00:01:27] Maybe

[00:01:29] I was just talking to our guest who we haven't said is here yet

[00:01:32] About the other movies that made, the man who made Blank Check made

[00:01:35] Including Stigmata

[00:01:37] Weird

[00:01:38] Remember Stigmata

[00:01:39] Yeah

[00:01:40] They were like we got it guys

[00:01:41] Patty Arquette, Christwounds

[00:01:43] Patty Arquette

[00:01:45] We gotta go back to calling her Patty

[00:01:47] Patty, a past and future guest of the show

[00:01:50] This is our second episode recording today

[00:01:53] I'm on the four hours of sleep

[00:01:55] Why aren't you sleeping?

[00:01:56] I did a late show last night

[00:01:59] I forgot and I agreed to and I fucked my life up

[00:02:02] But I'm doing great

[00:02:04] Yeah, you're the tick

[00:02:06] I'm Arthur, I'm the Arthur

[00:02:08] I still haven't been fired

[00:02:10] That's my biggest goal is not to get fired before I start working

[00:02:13] Have they cast the ticket? I'm asking you on mic

[00:02:15] No, no, no, the honest answer is here's the honest answer

[00:02:18] Okay, in this episode

[00:02:20] By the time this episode is released

[00:02:22] They probably will have cast the ticket

[00:02:23] They probably would have known

[00:02:24] But I'll just tell this as a little anecdotal story

[00:02:26] Everyone keeps on asking me like

[00:02:28] Oh they cast the ticket, they cast the ticket

[00:02:29] And I'm like no and they're like

[00:02:30] But you can't tell me right

[00:02:31] And I'm like no I genuinely

[00:02:33] We don't know who the ticket is

[00:02:34] As last I asked they don't have somebody

[00:02:36] Right, they're trying to get somebody

[00:02:38] And they're trying to get

[00:02:39] I think they're going after some big people

[00:02:41] And some cool people

[00:02:42] And they're not auditioning

[00:02:43] They're like offering

[00:02:45] Right

[00:02:46] So I emailed the casting director

[00:02:48] A couple days ago

[00:02:49] By the time you listen to this it will be two weeks

[00:02:51] Oh my god, grab this up

[00:02:52] About something else

[00:02:53] Yeah

[00:02:54] And I was like da da da da da

[00:02:55] Also can't wait to hear who you cast as the big guy

[00:02:57] And she like wrote the email back

[00:02:59] And I was like maybe she'll just tell me

[00:03:00] Like hey don't tell anybody

[00:03:01] But we're close to this person

[00:03:03] She wrote back address the first thing

[00:03:05] And I was like great

[00:03:06] Thank you

[00:03:07] Also how close are you close to getting someone

[00:03:09] To play the tick

[00:03:10] And she was like

[00:03:12] Yup

[00:03:13] And I was like

[00:03:15] I can't wait to hear who it is

[00:03:16] And she was like yep you're going to like it

[00:03:18] When you hear it

[00:03:19] Great

[00:03:20] It's someone cool

[00:03:21] Cool

[00:03:22] So they will not tell me

[00:03:23] Wow

[00:03:24] Even who their leads are

[00:03:25] But I haven't been fired yet

[00:03:27] And that's great

[00:03:29] Great news for everyone

[00:03:30] You think that Patti Arquette could be American made

[00:03:32] Yeah I hope so

[00:03:34] That'd be awesome

[00:03:35] Yeah she'd be good

[00:03:37] There's so many good supporting

[00:03:38] What a great little

[00:03:39] You know

[00:03:40] Ensemble of characters the tick has

[00:03:42] Can I tell you who my new favorite

[00:03:44] Supporting character is

[00:03:45] I've been reading all the comics

[00:03:46] Also our guest here is

[00:03:47] Louis Pyteman from Buzzfeed

[00:03:48] Sorry I just

[00:03:49] I got impatient

[00:03:50] I always like it when the guest

[00:03:51] Just starts talking naturally

[00:03:53] Yeah me too

[00:03:54] Rather than like

[00:03:55] Yeah Louis Pyteman's here

[00:03:56] Louis Pyteman's here

[00:03:57] From Buzzfeed

[00:03:58] I've been reading all the comics

[00:04:00] There's a character who appears

[00:04:01] You a tick fan?

[00:04:02] Yeah

[00:04:03] Ticket

[00:04:04] There's a character who appears in the comics

[00:04:05] Because a lot of the

[00:04:06] Ben Edlin only did the first

[00:04:08] 12 issues of the comic

[00:04:09] Where he went over to the cartoon show

[00:04:11] She's mad at us

[00:04:12] No come on

[00:04:13] They want the tick content

[00:04:15] Yeah tick content

[00:04:16] What's people are listening for

[00:04:17] The scoops

[00:04:18] At this point the tick is a sensation

[00:04:19] And people want to hear everything

[00:04:20] They can't about it

[00:04:21] Yeah

[00:04:22] Two weeks from now

[00:04:23] Yeah cause

[00:04:24] At this point we'll know that

[00:04:25] Arnold Schwarzenegger has been

[00:04:26] Cast as the tick

[00:04:27] And America will be salivating

[00:04:28] For details

[00:04:29] Salivating

[00:04:30] Salivating

[00:04:31] Okay

[00:04:32] There's a minor villain

[00:04:33] Who appears in like issue 10

[00:04:34] Of the original comic books

[00:04:35] They go to

[00:04:36] Oh he's a hero rather

[00:04:37] They go to a bar

[00:04:38] With all these superheroes

[00:04:39] Like a superhero nightclub

[00:04:40] And they're all introducing themselves

[00:04:42] And there's a guy named like six shooter

[00:04:44] And he has six

[00:04:45] Six shooters

[00:04:46] Okay

[00:04:47] And he juggles guns

[00:04:48] The whole thing is he like juggles

[00:04:49] That's cool I like that

[00:04:50] Three guns in each hand

[00:04:51] And then shoots them while he's juggling

[00:04:52] Which is cool

[00:04:53] But the guy I like

[00:04:54] They're like interesting all these

[00:04:55] Heroes with these cool names and everything

[00:04:56] And they go what about that guy

[00:04:57] And he goes

[00:04:58] I'm the guy with a grenade

[00:04:59] With a hand grenade

[00:05:00] And they go what's your power

[00:05:01] And he goes

[00:05:02] I have a hand grenade

[00:05:03] That's funny

[00:05:04] And they go that's it

[00:05:05] And he goes

[00:05:06] You can get a lot done with a hand grenade

[00:05:07] And he's just a dude

[00:05:08] In like a superhero

[00:05:09] Spandex jumpsuit

[00:05:10] Holding a hand grenade out

[00:05:11] In front of him

[00:05:12] And he just gets what he wants

[00:05:13] Because people don't want him to let go

[00:05:14] So who do you think for that one

[00:05:16] Vin Diesel

[00:05:17] I'm used to it

[00:05:20] I want Vin to be the tick

[00:05:21] I don't even want to verbalize that

[00:05:23] Because I don't want to put that in the world

[00:05:24] Because it's not going to happen

[00:05:25] But that's my ultimate

[00:05:27] It might

[00:05:28] Hey, you know what

[00:05:29] It might

[00:05:30] I mean Vin Diesel's career would have to

[00:05:32] No offense

[00:05:33] No his dive in the next couple weeks

[00:05:35] For him to get cast

[00:05:36] Well offense taken

[00:05:37] I'm just saying

[00:05:38] He's on top of the world

[00:05:39] You know

[00:05:40] I know

[00:05:41] I'm feeling good about my

[00:05:42] No you're good

[00:05:43] You're not on top of the world

[00:05:44] But you're

[00:05:45] You know climbing the world

[00:05:46] How funny is this going to be

[00:05:47] Listened to in two weeks

[00:05:48] When everything's changed

[00:05:49] Yes

[00:05:50] And yeah

[00:05:51] Yeah let's also say

[00:05:52] John Kasich just won Ohio

[00:05:54] Yeah you want to just

[00:05:55] Let's ground ourselves in this moment

[00:05:57] It's going to snow tonight I think

[00:05:59] Is the thought

[00:06:00] That's the rumor

[00:06:01] It's going to snow tonight in New York City

[00:06:03] Yeah

[00:06:04] Ellen Page just posted

[00:06:05] An Instagram of a dog

[00:06:07] That I opened on my laptop

[00:06:08] And I'm looking at it

[00:06:09] Oh that's going to be a watershed moment

[00:06:10] That people will be able to remember

[00:06:11] They'll look back at it

[00:06:12] And they'll remember

[00:06:13] Where they were this time and place

[00:06:14] Is it good

[00:06:15] That is a good dog

[00:06:16] I wonder how many likes that I'll have in two weeks

[00:06:18] That's a good question

[00:06:19] How many likes is it right now?

[00:06:20] 12, 78

[00:06:21] Okay

[00:06:22] Let's revisit this

[00:06:23] I'm going to book work this

[00:06:24] So listeners

[00:06:26] And we'll check in later

[00:06:27] Great

[00:06:28] Yeah

[00:06:29] Mitch McConnell just said

[00:06:30] That the NRA have to approve

[00:06:31] Of the next Supreme Court justice

[00:06:33] I don't know what that means

[00:06:34] I don't either

[00:06:35] What's the podcast about

[00:06:36] So this podcast is about directors

[00:06:38] Uh-huh

[00:06:39] Who have success early on

[00:06:40] Or given a blank check by Mr. McIntosh

[00:06:42] To make whatever movie they want

[00:06:43] Got it

[00:06:44] So with M. Night of course

[00:06:45] The sixth sense

[00:06:46] This is the guy

[00:06:47] M. Night Shyamalan's the guy we're talking about

[00:06:48] Is the movie

[00:06:49] The blank check movie

[00:06:50] M. Night Shyamalan's the name

[00:06:52] Pod Night Shyamalan's the game

[00:06:54] Boom

[00:06:55] That we're playing

[00:06:57] And this is his most recent film

[00:07:00] It is

[00:07:01] It came out not

[00:07:02] Not but a year ago

[00:07:03] It came out

[00:07:04] Uh

[00:07:05] In September 11th, 2015

[00:07:08] Never forget

[00:07:09] Don't forget that release date

[00:07:10] Never forget it

[00:07:11] And at the time that this movie came out

[00:07:13] We sort of had the idea

[00:07:14] Because it was starting to get good reviews

[00:07:16] We knew we were coming to the end

[00:07:17] Of the Phantom Man history

[00:07:19] Yeah we were in our Star Wars hole

[00:07:21] Yeah

[00:07:22] And we were like

[00:07:23] We want to do other things

[00:07:24] We want to do directors

[00:07:25] This is kind of interesting

[00:07:26] M. Night's having like a comeback moment

[00:07:28] We went he might be a good subject

[00:07:29] So we both held off on watching this movie

[00:07:32] Or this podcast

[00:07:33] We didn't see when it came out

[00:07:34] I finished watching this movie

[00:07:35] Two minutes before

[00:07:36] Yeah

[00:07:37] I didn't plan my time out

[00:07:38] Very well

[00:07:39] And 30 minutes after I arrived

[00:07:40] Yep

[00:07:41] Yes

[00:07:42] Correct

[00:07:43] Which is fine

[00:07:44] I want to position this in time

[00:07:45] Let's definitely get that

[00:07:46] On the record

[00:07:47] It's fine

[00:07:48] Louis arrived exactly on time

[00:07:50] On the nugget

[00:07:51] And Griffin said

[00:07:52] I have five minutes

[00:07:54] I think was how you put it left

[00:07:55] I said 15

[00:07:56] I underestimated how long the credits were

[00:07:58] You said five

[00:07:59] No, I overestimated

[00:08:00] I said 15 first

[00:08:01] And then he said five later

[00:08:02] But then I looked at your screen

[00:08:04] And there were a lot more than five

[00:08:05] There was a lot

[00:08:06] You came over to me

[00:08:07] And you're like

[00:08:08] Yatsy hadn't happened yet

[00:08:09] And I was like

[00:08:10] Okay, so he doesn't have five minutes left

[00:08:12] Which is a very good

[00:08:13] Indicator of like a plot

[00:08:15] Like where

[00:08:16] Yeah, it's a pre-Yatsy

[00:08:17] M. Night usually has like

[00:08:18] 15 minute long credit sequences

[00:08:20] It's true that after Earth and last Airbender

[00:08:23] Have a hellaciously long credits

[00:08:24] They have like gone with the wind level

[00:08:26] Long credits

[00:08:27] It's a good reason

[00:08:28] Anyway

[00:08:29] Folks, this is the movie

[00:08:30] Called The Visit

[00:08:31] Came out September 11th, 2015

[00:08:34] And this is the landscape we're in right now

[00:08:37] M. Night has another film that's in production

[00:08:39] Right now

[00:08:40] Split

[00:08:41] James McAvoy

[00:08:42] Isn't it?

[00:08:43] Ed Lochman shot it

[00:08:44] Is that right?

[00:08:45] Ed Lochman shot it?

[00:08:46] He has the best cinematographers

[00:08:48] We didn't even talk about

[00:08:49] I think, no, wait

[00:08:50] Who shot it?

[00:08:51] Cronenberg's guy shot after Earth

[00:08:52] We didn't talk about this

[00:08:53] This was shot by the guy who shot

[00:08:54] Oh, you're saying the visit was shot by

[00:08:55] This was shot by a lady

[00:08:56] Was shot by Marie Selberg

[00:08:57] Yeah, who shot Velvet Goldmine

[00:08:58] And shot other cool movies

[00:08:59] And shot Wrestler and Crete

[00:09:01] That's right

[00:09:02] Should have been nominated for an Oscar

[00:09:03] Totally

[00:09:04] But no woman has ever been nominated

[00:09:05] For best cinematography

[00:09:06] Split is being shot by Mike Geolakis

[00:09:09] What's he done?

[00:09:11] Well, he shot It Follows

[00:09:13] Oh, interesting

[00:09:14] Which is a pretty good movie

[00:09:16] Yeah

[00:09:17] Apart from that

[00:09:18] Mostly like indie movies

[00:09:20] That I don't know

[00:09:21] Yeah, but it seems like

[00:09:22] He's snatching up all these

[00:09:23] He does

[00:09:24] Hot people

[00:09:25] Oh, is it the production designer

[00:09:26] From Carol?

[00:09:27] Someone from Carol worked on this film

[00:09:29] He's got a fucking What's His Name

[00:09:31] You're talking about the next movie though

[00:09:33] Let's talk about this movie

[00:09:34] Okay, right

[00:09:35] But we don't know that next movie yet

[00:09:36] This is the most recent M. Night thing

[00:09:37] We have to go off of

[00:09:38] This is our last formal episode

[00:09:40] We are possibly doing a bonus episode

[00:09:42] Depending on whether or not

[00:09:43] We lose our minds

[00:09:44] Depending on enthusiasm

[00:09:45] Yeah

[00:09:46] But we have some things we could do

[00:09:47] For the bonus episode

[00:09:48] This is the fifth

[00:09:49] Now, Lewis, you are a big

[00:09:51] Fan of horror movies

[00:09:52] Correct

[00:09:53] I often, Lewis is sort of my load star

[00:09:55] In terms of like what indie horror

[00:09:57] To check out

[00:09:58] Yeah

[00:09:59] What to avoid

[00:10:00] There's a lot these days

[00:10:01] There's too much

[00:10:02] There's too much

[00:10:03] And it's partly through the model

[00:10:04] That this movie was kind of made through

[00:10:06] Right, the sort of low budget

[00:10:08] Fast and cheap

[00:10:09] The Blumhouse model is that

[00:10:10] You can make a movie for like

[00:10:11] $15,000

[00:10:13] I mean, that's like one movie

[00:10:14] You can make for that much

[00:10:15] Since then it's been more expensive

[00:10:17] But then get a lot of money back

[00:10:19] As long as it clears a little bit

[00:10:20] You know, that's all you need

[00:10:21] Or on video on demand

[00:10:22] And stuff like that as well

[00:10:24] Jason Blum was a producer

[00:10:25] On paranormal activity

[00:10:26] And he really took the ball

[00:10:28] And ran with it after that

[00:10:30] He ran, he ran far

[00:10:32] Ran real far

[00:10:33] And his other thing is

[00:10:34] I mean his movies are like

[00:10:35] So even like a

[00:10:37] A gem in the holograms

[00:10:38] Right, which he produced

[00:10:39] Which was an off genre

[00:10:40] Film for him

[00:10:41] Right

[00:10:42] Was a tremendous flop

[00:10:44] But it also was produced

[00:10:45] For so little money

[00:10:46] That like he had to come

[00:10:47] And be like this is embarrassing

[00:10:48] That it did this poorly

[00:10:50] But also no real skin off my back

[00:10:52] It cost as much as the visit

[00:10:54] Costs $5 million

[00:10:55] Right, that was like

[00:10:56] And that's a mega budget for Blumhouse

[00:10:57] As 5 mil is the biggest they get

[00:10:59] So he's got a really good

[00:11:01] Sustainable model

[00:11:02] Parenormal activity was the $15,000

[00:11:03] That was like $50,000

[00:11:04] Yeah

[00:11:05] I mean he must be just

[00:11:07] He must be so rich

[00:11:08] They must all be so rich

[00:11:09] That people made that movie

[00:11:10] Yeah, sometimes I just think

[00:11:11] Sit down and think about it

[00:11:12] Well they have all these franchises too

[00:11:13] In CDS

[00:11:14] The Conjury is getting a sequel

[00:11:16] Right

[00:11:17] Sinister

[00:11:18] There's a couple Sinister movies

[00:11:19] They've got The Purge

[00:11:20] Ouija

[00:11:21] They're making a Ouija sequel

[00:11:23] Oh yeah

[00:11:24] That's a good director

[00:11:25] Mike Flanagan

[00:11:26] Is he part of the whole

[00:11:27] Creepy doll sort of extended franchise

[00:11:29] That's been off of The Conjury

[00:11:31] Annabelle has been off of The Conjury

[00:11:32] Correct, yeah right

[00:11:33] Wait have you guys seen the real Annabelle doll?

[00:11:35] Yeah it's a Raggedy Ann

[00:11:36] Yeah it's a Raggedy Ann

[00:11:37] Do you know that?

[00:11:38] Look up the real Annabelle dolls

[00:11:39] Annabelle's a fucking goddamn Raggedy Ann

[00:11:41] Hilarious

[00:11:42] It's Lorraine Warren like

[00:11:43] Holding a Raggedy Ann doll

[00:11:45] It's not even a creepy one

[00:11:47] No it's just a Raggedy Ann

[00:11:49] I had a Raggedy Ann

[00:11:50] Anyway I was a kid

[00:11:51] We're not saying it's like a Raggedy Ann type doll

[00:11:53] It is the Raggedy Ann you would buy from like the Hallmark store

[00:11:56] This was the haunted doll

[00:11:58] Just the haunted doll yeah

[00:11:59] Cause in the movie it is the most

[00:12:01] Demented looking doll you've ever seen

[00:12:03] Yeah it looks like why would anyone design a doll to look that way

[00:12:05] It looks like someone said a plastic child on fire

[00:12:09] It's like the creepiest fucking thing

[00:12:11] You know what I was appreciative though about Child's Play is that like

[00:12:13] Those dolls were believably creepy

[00:12:15] They were very creepy

[00:12:16] But you understand like why that would happen

[00:12:18] And like why as a kid you'd be okay with it

[00:12:20] But as like an adult who understands that things are scary

[00:12:22] This is a fucked up doll

[00:12:24] You're big into the Child's Play franchise too right

[00:12:26] Are you not a huge fan?

[00:12:27] No I am a big fan

[00:12:28] Okay cause this came up with us recently on the podcast

[00:12:30] Which is your favorite of the Child's Play movie

[00:12:32] Oh god

[00:12:33] This is when we were talking about the box-off performance of another stakeout

[00:12:36] Right and you were very surprised by which one I said was my favorite

[00:12:38] Mine is probably Bridochecky

[00:12:40] Interesting

[00:12:41] Mine too

[00:12:42] What's your favorite

[00:12:43] I like three

[00:12:44] He likes Child's Play 3

[00:12:45] That's the worst one

[00:12:46] I agree

[00:12:47] That's the one at like military school

[00:12:48] Yeah I like that one

[00:12:49] No

[00:12:50] Child's Play 2 is also really good

[00:12:52] And like you know

[00:12:53] Three ends with the fight on the factory line though right

[00:12:55] No that's two

[00:12:57] Child's Play 3 ends up with him on the railway tracks

[00:13:00] I believe

[00:13:01] Child's Play 2 is the one where Emily Valentine of 9 of 210

[00:13:04] And the kid are like in the factory

[00:13:06] Right

[00:13:07] For the showdown that's two

[00:13:08] So maybe 2 is my favorite

[00:13:09] I just know I like that factory showdown

[00:13:11] But I always thought that was at the end of the military academy movie

[00:13:14] I gotta re-walk

[00:13:15] So three ends at like a haunted house or something

[00:13:18] And then I don't know

[00:13:20] No I think you're right it's the train thing right isn't it

[00:13:23] I don't remember it's been a while

[00:13:24] Oh you thought it was the train thing

[00:13:26] Child's Play 3 was banned in Britain

[00:13:29] Right

[00:13:30] I believe it's three

[00:13:31] It might have been two

[00:13:32] One of them was banned in Britain because the

[00:13:35] A child was murdered this is really famous

[00:13:37] The James Bulger case

[00:13:38] Oh yeah

[00:13:39] Where two children murdered a little child

[00:13:41] And they like tied him to railroad tracks

[00:13:43] Kind of the slender man of his time

[00:13:45] I mean and like what the thing was

[00:13:47] It was kind of like a

[00:13:51] It was sort of a fake slender man

[00:13:53] Cause they didn't actually know if they'd seen those movies

[00:13:55] Right

[00:13:56] But the crime was just similar

[00:13:57] Yeah but that was around the time when they were just kind of like

[00:13:59] They were just banning videos

[00:14:00] Right

[00:14:01] And you know

[00:14:02] Also say like if they tied a kid to some train tracks

[00:14:05] And they thought it was a copycat crime

[00:14:07] He also might have watched like the fucking Dudley Do right

[00:14:10] Or like old like silent one realers

[00:14:12] Like that's like the oldest trick in the book

[00:14:14] Like were they twirling long mustaches and wearing capes

[00:14:16] Cause if so it might not have been Chuckie's fault

[00:14:19] It's just crazy because like

[00:14:21] I know that it's such a niche thing in this country

[00:14:23] But in England like the bulger murder is like the biggest thing that's ever

[00:14:26] Like the worst crime in the history of Britain basically

[00:14:29] They still haven't gotten over it

[00:14:31] You know that movie Boy A is about the bulger murder

[00:14:33] Right

[00:14:34] Which introduced us to the young Andy Garfield

[00:14:36] So I am uncomfortable even making a joke about it

[00:14:38] That's why I'm saying that

[00:14:39] I feel bad about my slender man joke

[00:14:40] No that was a great joke

[00:14:41] Did you see the slender man documentary?

[00:14:43] Yes it's so good

[00:14:44] Yeah I'm very excited for that

[00:14:46] I like that guy

[00:14:47] Slender man I think he's cool

[00:14:48] Let's have him on the podcast

[00:14:50] On the podcast

[00:14:51] Our next mini series is Child's Pod

[00:14:53] We're gonna go through the Child's Play films

[00:14:55] With Slender Man on every episode

[00:14:57] Two things really quick

[00:14:58] One they did a Q&A after that movie

[00:15:00] And I was like if they bring out Slender Man

[00:15:01] I'm gonna shit my pants

[00:15:02] Seriously

[00:15:03] Didn't happen didn't happen

[00:15:04] The other thing that I love about Child's Play

[00:15:07] Is that Don Mancini wrote that entire series

[00:15:09] Right yeah I owe him that

[00:15:10] That's the only

[00:15:11] There's an auteur element

[00:15:12] Yeah it's the only horror series

[00:15:14] But I can think of the franchise that always had the creator

[00:15:16] And also

[00:15:17] Very so much in terms of tone

[00:15:19] Like it's not back to horror

[00:15:21] He went in a lot of directions

[00:15:22] He reinvented his own franchise

[00:15:24] Which rarely happens

[00:15:25] Also he's like a gay dude

[00:15:27] Which is kind of uncommon in horror

[00:15:28] It's like him and Clive Barker

[00:15:29] In terms of like mainstream horror

[00:15:31] I didn't even see Curse of Chucky

[00:15:34] Did you see that one in the street?

[00:15:35] I did

[00:15:36] The video one is it good?

[00:15:37] It is good

[00:15:38] And that's back to straight horror

[00:15:39] Minimum was for Chucky

[00:15:40] It's back to straight horror

[00:15:42] The trailer looks kind of rough

[00:15:44] Because there's some CGI in it

[00:15:46] But if you actually watch it

[00:15:48] It's quite good

[00:15:49] And they have more practical stuff in the movie

[00:15:51] Yeah and is Seed of Chucky the one with John Waters

[00:15:53] Or is that Bride the Chucky?

[00:15:54] Yes Seed has

[00:15:55] He plays paparazzi

[00:15:56] Yeah

[00:15:57] Anyway

[00:15:58] Seed is real goofball bananas

[00:15:59] Seed is where they were

[00:16:00] The Britney Spears scene

[00:16:01] And Seed is when I was like

[00:16:02] This is a movie that I'm watching

[00:16:05] Wait but I had a thought about all this

[00:16:07] Well Slender Man

[00:16:08] Did any of you guys ever watch Marble Hornet?

[00:16:10] That thing on YouTube?

[00:16:12] Marble Hornet?

[00:16:13] You guys don't know do you know it?

[00:16:15] No but it sounds like something that's scary

[00:16:17] It's fucking scary

[00:16:18] And I did it was when the Slender Man thing happened

[00:16:20] They had watched this thing

[00:16:21] It's like a YouTube series

[00:16:23] An indie thing

[00:16:24] Like a web series

[00:16:25] But it's not

[00:16:26] You know he just made it by himself

[00:16:27] About like a person who went mad

[00:16:29] Making a movie when Slender Man

[00:16:30] Started haunting him

[00:16:31] Oh yeah

[00:16:32] They have clips of that stuff in the movie

[00:16:34] Like all the right

[00:16:35] They show a lot of like Slender Man

[00:16:36] Like homemade videos and stuff

[00:16:38] And I watched it one day at work

[00:16:39] When I was like going down to YouTube hole

[00:16:41] Because I was like

[00:16:42] Maybe I should write about this

[00:16:43] And it freaked me out

[00:16:44] It's not actually like

[00:16:46] High production value or it's very scary

[00:16:48] But it freaked me out

[00:16:49] What would you do if you went to like a comic con

[00:16:51] And Slender Man was just there doing signings

[00:16:53] Like he was just at a long table

[00:16:55] In between like WWE's

[00:16:57] Virgil and Tony Todd

[00:16:58] And he was just there

[00:16:59] With a bunch of glossies

[00:17:00] Tony Todd reference

[00:17:01] Thank you

[00:17:02] What did I just see Tony Todd in?

[00:17:04] The Rock

[00:17:06] I didn't see him in an old movie

[00:17:08] I thought maybe you rewatched

[00:17:09] Battle of the sedation

[00:17:10] Yeah

[00:17:11] He's great in finalization

[00:17:12] He's in a new movie?

[00:17:13] I just warned

[00:17:15] He's the voice of zoom in the flash

[00:17:17] Anyway let's get to the visit

[00:17:18] Let's get to the visit

[00:17:19] Can I say one thing before we get to the visit?

[00:17:21] Yeah of course

[00:17:22] Just because we brought up John Waters

[00:17:23] Do you know, do either of you know

[00:17:25] There was a moment

[00:17:26] In Alvin the tripmunks for the road trip

[00:17:29] Directed by

[00:17:30] Walt Pecker

[00:17:31] Outdoor of Old Dogs

[00:17:33] I think the greatest living vulgar

[00:17:35] Outdoor

[00:17:36] He's a lunatic

[00:17:37] Who they let make children's films

[00:17:38] There was a moment where

[00:17:39] They're on a plane

[00:17:40] And they sneak into first class

[00:17:42] This is where they get put on the no fly list

[00:17:44] And TSA agent Tony Hale

[00:17:46] Spends the rest of the movie

[00:17:47] Trying to track them down

[00:17:48] That's the plot of the movie?

[00:17:49] The movie's insane

[00:17:50] By the way they're barely

[00:17:51] On a road trip in that movie

[00:17:52] They're both on a plane trip?

[00:17:53] No and then they like

[00:17:54] Are in a car for a little bit

[00:17:55] But then go on a bus

[00:17:56] I spent a lot of time in New Orleans

[00:17:57] Like they did

[00:17:58] So they're on the road

[00:17:59] A little bit

[00:18:00] But it's like

[00:18:01] One montage of them driving through cities

[00:18:03] Anyway

[00:18:04] There's a moment where they're on

[00:18:06] A plane

[00:18:07] And a stewardess comes over

[00:18:09] A flight attendant comes over to Alvin

[00:18:11] Alvin's sitting in first class

[00:18:12] He snuck in the first class

[00:18:13] Sitting next to

[00:18:15] John Water

[00:18:17] I did not know that

[00:18:18] Who I've always said

[00:18:19] It feels like

[00:18:20] Walt Pecker is making

[00:18:21] John Waters movies within

[00:18:22] And not in a good way

[00:18:24] But he's somehow making

[00:18:25] Like children's John Waters movies

[00:18:26] Yeah, they're like

[00:18:27] That crass and disgusting

[00:18:28] Like a straight guy

[00:18:29] Making John Waters movies

[00:18:30] And I can't figure out

[00:18:31] If he's self aware or not

[00:18:32] But it does feel like

[00:18:33] He's the straight gone waters

[00:18:34] John Waters

[00:18:35] The straight gone waters

[00:18:36] The straight gone waters

[00:18:37] With a bigger budget

[00:18:38] Yeah, but they're sitting

[00:18:39] On the plane together

[00:18:40] And the flight attendant comes up

[00:18:42] And somehow

[00:18:43] Some sort of joke is like

[00:18:44] They like

[00:18:45] Volley a joke to him

[00:18:46] About the fact that the chipmunks

[00:18:47] Have eaten their own poop

[00:18:48] In the previous movies

[00:18:49] Or something like that

[00:18:50] Like somehow a poop joke comes up

[00:18:51] And John Waters goes like

[00:18:52] Ugh

[00:18:53] God

[00:18:54] How far have our standards fallen

[00:18:56] Like he says something like that

[00:18:57] And Alvin goes like

[00:18:58] Oh please

[00:18:59] Like you have right to judge

[00:19:01] I've seen Pink Flamingos

[00:19:02] Wow

[00:19:04] There's a joke in fucking the road

[00:19:06] Ship

[00:19:07] About Pink Flamingos

[00:19:08] Where they criticize Alvin

[00:19:09] For eating his own shit

[00:19:10] And he's like

[00:19:11] Come on

[00:19:12] I've seen your fucking

[00:19:13] Shit-eating movie

[00:19:14] Did the kids lose it

[00:19:15] In the audience when you

[00:19:16] Did they just go nuts

[00:19:17] For that joke

[00:19:18] They all started bleeding

[00:19:19] Out of their eyes

[00:19:20] What the fuck is this

[00:19:21] It was like

[00:19:22] Squidward's revenge

[00:19:23] Or whatever that

[00:19:24] Yes

[00:19:25] You know what I'm talking about

[00:19:26] I was doing like a callback to the creepypasta

[00:19:29] As we were doing

[00:19:30] Yeah

[00:19:31] Slenderman

[00:19:32] That's what happened there

[00:19:33] Yeah

[00:19:34] In case you guys missed that

[00:19:35] Creepypasta is the kind of thing

[00:19:36] That I just wish I was the right age

[00:19:38] To be independently discovering that stuff

[00:19:40] You can tell how scary it would be

[00:19:42] Oh my god

[00:19:43] Like some of it's like

[00:19:44] Legitimately creepy

[00:19:45] And you're like

[00:19:46] If I were like 11

[00:19:47] When I was forwarding chain letters

[00:19:48] It said if you don't forward this 15 times

[00:19:50] You're gonna get murdered

[00:19:51] I was doing that

[00:19:52] Because I believed that was gonna happen

[00:19:53] So if someone told me

[00:19:54] That Slenderman was real at that age

[00:19:55] I would have probably stabbed someone

[00:19:57] Do you know what else would have been

[00:19:58] Really creepy when you were 11?

[00:19:59] The visit

[00:20:00] Having to spend a weekend with your grandparents

[00:20:02] Ah

[00:20:03] Who you'd never met before

[00:20:04] Who you'd never met before

[00:20:05] And then they started acting real kooky

[00:20:07] Not real kooky

[00:20:09] Let's be clear

[00:20:10] They're gross

[00:20:11] This is a movie now

[00:20:13] I believe this movie is rated PG-13

[00:20:15] Is it an R?

[00:20:16] Is it an R?

[00:20:17] I'm pretty sure it's an R

[00:20:18] I was watching and trying to figure out

[00:20:19] Which side of the coin it was falling on

[00:20:20] Because I was gonna

[00:20:21] You know it's a PG-13

[00:20:22] Wow

[00:20:23] They say fuck once

[00:20:24] They say fuck once

[00:20:25] Because they do that

[00:20:26] The game of him using pop stars

[00:20:28] Instead of curse words

[00:20:29] Oh right

[00:20:30] That's not too graphic

[00:20:32] No it's not

[00:20:33] I was gonna say this movie

[00:20:34] Kind of like Drag Me to Hell

[00:20:35] Which is another sort of intense

[00:20:37] PG-13 horror movie

[00:20:38] It does gross stuff

[00:20:40] Rather than gory stuff

[00:20:41] I love Drag Me to Hell

[00:20:43] Yeah, me too

[00:20:44] So much

[00:20:45] But that's like kind of

[00:20:46] You know what Drag Me to Hell didn't have

[00:20:47] Is a diaper to the face

[00:20:48] Didn't have a diaper to the face

[00:20:49] But it had a lot of snot

[00:20:50] You know

[00:20:51] It had a lot of like

[00:20:52] Oh for sure

[00:20:53] It had a lot of like yeah

[00:20:54] Barfing and diaper

[00:20:55] It's got a lot of

[00:20:56] Dirty diapers

[00:20:57] So much

[00:20:58] I just gotta stay up front

[00:20:59] Yeah I'm a little biased

[00:21:00] Cause I like movies with poop in them

[00:21:02] I don't actually care for poop in movies

[00:21:04] Me neither

[00:21:05] I'm usually quite anti-poop

[00:21:07] And that scene

[00:21:09] Really got to me

[00:21:11] It seemed unnecessary

[00:21:13] Which one

[00:21:14] The initial introduction of the diapers

[00:21:16] Or the diaper to the face

[00:21:18] I agree with that

[00:21:19] Cause I think the initial

[00:21:20] Introduction of the diapers

[00:21:21] Is really effective

[00:21:22] Oh totally

[00:21:23] Yeah I agree with that

[00:21:24] Because it's not like

[00:21:25] They find a dead body

[00:21:26] And you're like

[00:21:27] Okay we get it

[00:21:28] It's like

[00:21:29] Oh this is really weird

[00:21:30] And really messed up

[00:21:31] But maybe

[00:21:32] Like it can be explained away

[00:21:34] You know what I didn't get

[00:21:35] Until rewatching it though

[00:21:36] Is that

[00:21:37] It's awfully convenient

[00:21:38] How those

[00:21:39] Crazy people hold it together

[00:21:40] Real well

[00:21:41] At the beginning

[00:21:42] And like play along

[00:21:43] And then suddenly get crazier

[00:21:44] And crazier as the week goes on

[00:21:45] I know

[00:21:46] And it's never fully laid out

[00:21:48] Which is fine

[00:21:49] Because Shyamalan movies

[00:21:50] Often lay things out a little too much

[00:21:51] Like explain everything

[00:21:52] Or you know

[00:21:53] Let's start from the beginning

[00:21:54] And like Shyamalan writes a spec script

[00:21:56] Right he's coming off of

[00:21:57] After which is coming off of

[00:21:59] The last air bed

[00:22:00] Which is coming off of

[00:22:01] The happening

[00:22:02] Which is coming off of

[00:22:04] Lady in the water

[00:22:05] Which is coming off of

[00:22:06] The village

[00:22:07] So dude's fucking

[00:22:08] Smart and right now

[00:22:09] Right yeah

[00:22:10] He writes a spec script

[00:22:11] That at the time

[00:22:12] Is called

[00:22:13] Sundowning

[00:22:14] Correct

[00:22:15] And I believe he comes to

[00:22:16] Jason Blum

[00:22:17] And goes

[00:22:18] I see what you're doing

[00:22:19] I like what you're doing

[00:22:20] I like this model

[00:22:21] And M. Night puts up

[00:22:23] Five million dollars of his own

[00:22:25] Money

[00:22:26] Oh wow

[00:22:27] It was all his own money

[00:22:28] He bankrolls this movie himself

[00:22:29] Fucking Georgie Lucas style

[00:22:31] Good job M. Night

[00:22:32] You pulled a Georgie portrait

[00:22:33] He just dropped on a movie

[00:22:34] That's what he used to make per movie

[00:22:35] No I mean I know

[00:22:36] He made like

[00:22:37] So he like used a

[00:22:38] I don't know maybe M. Night said

[00:22:39] Compulsive gamble

[00:22:40] He might be

[00:22:41] But I'm just saying

[00:22:42] I mean look

[00:22:43] Who knows how much he had saved up

[00:22:44] I get the sense he's a little frugal

[00:22:45] But I

[00:22:46] That's my read

[00:22:47] It isn't Philadelphia

[00:22:48] Do you really like

[00:22:49] Think of M. Night Shyamalan

[00:22:50] I think restraint

[00:22:51] Is that like what

[00:22:52] You're like

[00:22:53] Financially I think

[00:22:54] Because he is

[00:22:55] You watched

[00:22:56] The Last Airbender

[00:22:57] Think financial restraint

[00:22:59] He is pretty formal

[00:23:01] In terms of cinematic language

[00:23:02] You know what I'm saying

[00:23:03] Like his directorial style

[00:23:04] Like not his writing

[00:23:05] Not his storytelling

[00:23:06] But like the meter

[00:23:07] Of like his editing

[00:23:08] And his shot composition

[00:23:09] Feels like a guy

[00:23:10] Who's not spending a ton of money

[00:23:11] Okay

[00:23:12] I'm talking like

[00:23:13] On like cars and shit

[00:23:14] I don't want to argue with you

[00:23:15] I don't

[00:23:16] Look it's rough theories

[00:23:17] I'm working on

[00:23:18] I have the charts in my room

[00:23:19] They're tied together with

[00:23:20] Pushpins and red yarn

[00:23:22] Continue your story

[00:23:23] He puts up money for this movie

[00:23:25] I mean he got like

[00:23:26] 10 million dollars to do

[00:23:27] The villain, right?

[00:23:28] Sure

[00:23:29] So I mean

[00:23:30] By the time he was doing after

[00:23:31] Earth he still probably got

[00:23:32] 5 million dollars to direct that movie

[00:23:33] Probably

[00:23:34] Yeah

[00:23:35] Making money

[00:23:36] He writes, he produces

[00:23:37] So he put up one of his old

[00:23:38] Salaries

[00:23:39] To make this new film

[00:23:40] Ghost of Blumhouse

[00:23:41] And they make it very much

[00:23:42] Off the radar

[00:23:43] Like I remember

[00:23:44] Reading an interview with

[00:23:45] Catherine Hahn

[00:23:46] And they were like

[00:23:47] What else do you have coming up?

[00:23:48] And she was like

[00:23:49] Well I just did a movie

[00:23:50] With M. Night Shyamalan

[00:23:51] And they were like

[00:23:52] What do you mean just

[00:23:53] We would know if there was

[00:23:54] A new M. Night Shyamalan movie

[00:23:55] She was like

[00:23:56] It was a tiny little movie

[00:23:57] We did it all in the house

[00:23:58] I think it's going to be

[00:23:59] Really interesting

[00:24:00] People didn't even know

[00:24:01] The movie existed

[00:24:02] Until she said that

[00:24:03] I think he just went

[00:24:04] Way off the beaten path

[00:24:05] And then it was released

[00:24:06] In September

[00:24:07] Did

[00:24:08] 25 million opening weekend

[00:24:09] Which was seen as like

[00:24:12] Good return on investment

[00:24:13] Yeah it opened

[00:24:14] Right

[00:24:15] It opened number two

[00:24:16] Behind?

[00:24:17] If you guess this

[00:24:19] It made like 400,000 less

[00:24:21] Than the number one movie

[00:24:22] Of September 11th, 2015

[00:24:24] I don't know what this movie is

[00:24:26] Oh wait

[00:24:27] Is it a Jesus movie?

[00:24:28] Warra?

[00:24:29] Close

[00:24:30] No

[00:24:31] It's not a Jesus movie

[00:24:32] It is a niche audience movie

[00:24:33] I guess

[00:24:34] You could call it that

[00:24:35] It is a black movie

[00:24:37] Okay

[00:24:38] So that's why

[00:24:39] You were being euphemistic

[00:24:40] It wasn't no good deed

[00:24:41] Not no good deed

[00:24:43] Which is actually like

[00:24:45] You know

[00:24:46] Pretty good deed

[00:24:47] Okay deed

[00:24:48] Is it okay deed?

[00:24:49] But I think it's in the same

[00:24:51] I didn't see this film

[00:24:52] But I think it's in the same

[00:24:53] Sort of wheelhouse

[00:24:54] What movie is it?

[00:24:55] The perfect guy

[00:24:56] Oh fuck

[00:24:57] Oh yeah

[00:24:58] With I believe

[00:24:59] Morris Chestnuts in that

[00:25:00] Is he?

[00:25:01] And Michael Ealy

[00:25:02] The great Michael Ealy

[00:25:03] And Sana Lafon

[00:25:04] I don't know how you say her name

[00:25:05] Yeah Sana Lafon I think

[00:25:06] But that movie

[00:25:07] Opened just a smidge over the visit

[00:25:08] But they both did well

[00:25:09] And then visit cleared

[00:25:11] I mean like 65

[00:25:13] Domestic

[00:25:14] This is a game we did

[00:25:15] We tried to guess the top 5

[00:25:16] 100 mil total

[00:25:17] Oh yeah you want the other 3

[00:25:18] Can you give me the other 3

[00:25:19] War Room was number 3

[00:25:20] War Room was number 3

[00:25:21] Okay number 4

[00:25:22] Giving a hint

[00:25:23] Old guy movie

[00:25:24] Made actually like

[00:25:25] A decent amount of money

[00:25:26] No one ever even acknowledged

[00:25:27] That it existed

[00:25:28] It made 30 mil

[00:25:30] Mr. Holmes

[00:25:31] No

[00:25:32] Like literally

[00:25:33] I forgot this movie existed

[00:25:34] But it's a movie for old guys

[00:25:37] Boy is it

[00:25:38] Do you know Lewis?

[00:25:39] I don't

[00:25:40] Nicknolte's in it

[00:25:42] Oh the fucking

[00:25:43] Nicknolte Robert Redford movie

[00:25:44] A walk in the woods

[00:25:45] Boom yeah

[00:25:46] Oh right

[00:25:47] Made through your mill

[00:25:48] Yeah weird

[00:25:49] On a budget of like

[00:25:50] You know nothing

[00:25:51] Directed by Ken Qopis

[00:25:52] Of Dunstan Chex Infame

[00:25:54] And the office

[00:25:55] And number 5 is

[00:25:57] Just like an awesome action movie

[00:25:58] That rocks

[00:25:59] That's a sequel

[00:26:00] That's the best

[00:26:01] I loved it

[00:26:02] So it would have been

[00:26:03] Mission Possible 5

[00:26:04] Rogue Nation

[00:26:05] The best of the Mission Possible films

[00:26:07] Incorrect on that part

[00:26:08] But correct on the rest of it

[00:26:10] What's your favorite Mission Possible movie Lewis?

[00:26:12] Everyone's different

[00:26:13] I have only seen the first

[00:26:16] Three

[00:26:18] Gotta get to the fourth and fifth one

[00:26:19] I know

[00:26:20] I'm a little behind

[00:26:21] I'll get there

[00:26:22] I think those are the rewards

[00:26:24] Yeah I agree

[00:26:25] I have to re-watch the visit

[00:26:26] Every weekend

[00:26:27] Just in case we're doing a podcast about it

[00:26:30] This worked out really well actually

[00:26:31] Let's say this is actually

[00:26:32] The 20th podcast you've been on

[00:26:33] About the visit

[00:26:34] You need to be shocked

[00:26:35] Yeah

[00:26:37] Number 10 that year

[00:26:38] That week was an animated film called

[00:26:40] Un Galo con Muchos Nuevos

[00:26:42] Oh yeah, Lionsgate is releasing

[00:26:44] Spanish cartoons now

[00:26:46] What the fuck is that?

[00:26:47] It's about chickens on a farm

[00:26:48] I saw the trailer but it was in Spanish

[00:26:50] But that sounds like

[00:26:51] Sounds like someone with big balls

[00:26:53] Yeah I think that's like a double entendre

[00:26:55] I think it's like a chicken with big eggs

[00:26:56] No I mean I think that is

[00:26:58] Literally what it means

[00:27:00] With many eggs

[00:27:02] Lots of eggs

[00:27:04] I saw the mermaid in theaters last week

[00:27:07] Rooster with many eggs

[00:27:08] What?

[00:27:09] I saw the mermaid, the Steven Chalmovian

[00:27:10] Oh yeah that was Steven Chalmovian

[00:27:11] It's one of my favorite movies of the year

[00:27:12] We're really bouncing all around here

[00:27:13] Yeah but there's a moment in the film

[00:27:15] Where there's clearly some kind of word plan

[00:27:17] I saw in a theater and I was probably

[00:27:18] One of three Caucasian people in the theater

[00:27:20] Everyone else was like a native

[00:27:21] Oh and they like most of the audience lost it

[00:27:23] Yeah they were like native like Mandarin speakers

[00:27:25] Right?

[00:27:26] And there's some moments

[00:27:27] And you always speak Cantonese

[00:27:28] I only speak Cantonese

[00:27:29] And that always fucking bites me in the ass

[00:27:31] But it's great for one car away

[00:27:32] Yes only

[00:27:33] But he's yet to hire me

[00:27:35] What if one car away hired you

[00:27:37] What if he's listening to this podcast

[00:27:38] What if one car away just directed like

[00:27:40] Episode three of the ten

[00:27:41] Like you did like one episode

[00:27:43] Of an Amazon superhero show

[00:27:46] One car away might listen to our podcast

[00:27:48] Let's be honest

[00:27:49] One car away if you're listening to this podcast

[00:27:50] You're my favorite filmmaker

[00:27:51] I would love to talk to you someday

[00:27:53] And I'm sorry that we intimated

[00:27:55] That Christopher Doyle was a jerk

[00:27:57] On our Lady in the Water episode

[00:27:58] Yeah but you probably know that

[00:27:59] Like you probably do

[00:28:00] You probably worked in the long enough

[00:28:01] You're probably like

[00:28:02] I know he's a piece of shit but he's my friend

[00:28:04] Anyway carry on

[00:28:06] The audience lost it at her joke you didn't understand

[00:28:08] There's a moment where they're talking about

[00:28:10] He wants to go eat chicken

[00:28:12] And he's like what

[00:28:14] And then they cut to her holding up two physical chickens

[00:28:16] And the audience laughs cause they're like

[00:28:18] Oh she meant that kind of chicken

[00:28:19] Not the other kind of chicken that we don't know

[00:28:21] And then she keeps on talking

[00:28:22] He's like

[00:28:23] You want me to eat that already

[00:28:24] And she's like

[00:28:25] Yeah but we have to pluck it first

[00:28:26] And he's like

[00:28:27] What?

[00:28:28] So this is like a big

[00:28:29] It's a vagina thing

[00:28:31] The audience was losing it

[00:28:33] The turkey time joke in Gilly

[00:28:35] It's something like that

[00:28:36] But the audience was going

[00:28:37] Very gobble gobble

[00:28:38] Going fucking bananas

[00:28:39] Like it was like the Beatles playing head Sullivan

[00:28:41] The audience was going

[00:28:42] Insane

[00:28:43] And then I looked it up afterwards

[00:28:45] And some of you said it was

[00:28:47] A slang for prostitute

[00:28:49] But then the joke still doesn't track for me

[00:28:51] Which means I think every single word they were using

[00:28:53] Had a different like

[00:28:54] They just had to remake the whole

[00:28:55] You gotta pluck it first

[00:28:56] It's like pluck a prostitute

[00:28:57] That still doesn't make any sense

[00:28:58] Look, yeah, come on

[00:28:59] Not everything's gonna

[00:29:00] Humor does not

[00:29:01] No, I was just surprised

[00:29:02] Because it was the one joke in the movie

[00:29:03] That didn't translate

[00:29:04] Because he's a very visual filmmaker

[00:29:05] It's a great movie you should go see it

[00:29:06] Anyway

[00:29:07] The visit was directed by M. Night Shyamalan

[00:29:09] Also funny

[00:29:10] It's the 11th film released on September 11th

[00:29:12] We never forgot

[00:29:13] It's very funny

[00:29:14] Here's the set up for the movie

[00:29:15] That he paid for out of pocket

[00:29:17] Two kids

[00:29:18] Two kids played by

[00:29:20] Olivia De Jong and Ed Oxenbould

[00:29:23] Both Australian

[00:29:25] Which is interesting

[00:29:26] I'm nodding because I knew that

[00:29:28] I didn't say it but I knew it

[00:29:29] But for the listener at home, Louis knew that

[00:29:31] I nodded

[00:29:32] Shit

[00:29:33] This film's about the two siblings

[00:29:35] Much like this podcast is about

[00:29:36] Hashtag the two friends

[00:29:37] Yeah, we didn't say them last episode

[00:29:38] No, fuck

[00:29:39] We're trying to brand this

[00:29:40] I don't know if you know this, Louis

[00:29:41] But David and I are friends

[00:29:42] And we try it

[00:29:43] We think that's like an interesting

[00:29:44] Like marketing hook for the show

[00:29:46] Is that like we're like

[00:29:47] The two friends who host a podcast together

[00:29:49] Right

[00:29:50] Cause I think most shows don't have that

[00:29:51] The one for them

[00:29:52] Yeah, totally

[00:29:53] It's like how Noah Ringer is a Wikipedia page

[00:29:55] Cause he likes to hang out with his friends

[00:29:57] Cause you never know

[00:29:58] What kind of person you're dealing with

[00:30:00] You never know

[00:30:01] That guy could be a lone wolf

[00:30:02] A good total lone wolf

[00:30:03] We looked up Noah Ringer before we recorded this

[00:30:05] Yeah, it was great

[00:30:06] Two show a whole episode about

[00:30:08] Noah Ringer's Wikipedia page

[00:30:09] God, what if we can fucking get him on the show?

[00:30:11] Have him on the show, come on

[00:30:12] Where do you think he lives?

[00:30:13] He li-

[00:30:14] Fuck

[00:30:15] I was gonna try to remember the name of the place

[00:30:16] Where last year, Vedra takes place

[00:30:18] The Four Kingdom

[00:30:20] He lives in the Southern Water Kingdom

[00:30:21] He's from Dallas

[00:30:22] Oh, okay

[00:30:23] He rides in this flying buffalo

[00:30:25] Uh, yeah, I think you're talking about Appa

[00:30:27] Jesus Christ, Lewis

[00:30:29] Uh, correct

[00:30:31] Uh, he's homeschooled

[00:30:33] Anyway, back off of his page

[00:30:35] Makes a lot of sense

[00:30:36] Wow

[00:30:37] That really tracks

[00:30:39] Alright

[00:30:40] The visit

[00:30:41] The visit

[00:30:42] This doesn't mean things about kids

[00:30:43] Yeah, seriously

[00:30:44] He's 19

[00:30:45] Yeah, he's now an adult, that's true

[00:30:46] So we can shit all over him

[00:30:47] Yeah

[00:30:48] Much like Tyler gets shit all over him in the visit

[00:30:51] Oh, good segue

[00:30:52] Beck and Tyler

[00:30:53] Yeah

[00:30:54] Teen, Beck is about 13

[00:30:55] Two Australians with good American accents

[00:30:57] They don't see him on stream

[00:30:58] Yeah, they're like 13, 10, maybe like 12, 9

[00:31:01] No, I think he's like a leas-

[00:31:03] He's at least 11

[00:31:04] Yeah, I guess Beck is like 14

[00:31:05] He had previously played Alexander

[00:31:07] And Alexander and the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day

[00:31:09] Not a film I saw

[00:31:10] I think he's actually 12, I'm gonna say

[00:31:11] At least 12

[00:31:12] Really?

[00:31:13] Maybe even 13

[00:31:14] I'm gonna keep upping his age

[00:31:15] Well, I think there-

[00:31:16] He makes a joke, he-

[00:31:17] The actor is now 14

[00:31:18] He makes a joke that she like is-

[00:31:20] Doesn't even have boobs yet, right?

[00:31:22] But I think he's supposed to-

[00:31:23] Remember that it's early in the movie

[00:31:24] Yeah, I hate that

[00:31:25] It's not- yeah, I know

[00:31:26] So it's supposed to-

[00:31:27] He's supposed to be hitting on her on her-

[00:31:28] She's probably supposed to be like 14 or 15, right?

[00:31:30] Yeah

[00:31:31] He's saying like, eeeh

[00:31:32] So yeah, he has to be

[00:31:33] He's 12, she's 14

[00:31:34] His voice hasn't broken

[00:31:35] Let's go with that

[00:31:36] So he's right

[00:31:37] But I think he's-

[00:31:38] He's getting there

[00:31:39] He's care about his lack of puberty

[00:31:40] Right

[00:31:41] Because he's small

[00:31:42] Let's all put our hands in the middle

[00:31:43] Uh-huh

[00:31:44] And just vow for the rest of the podcast

[00:31:46] 14 and 12

[00:31:47] Okay, they're 12 and 14

[00:31:48] We're gonna stick with that

[00:31:49] Good job guys

[00:31:50] Alright, it's warm in here

[00:31:51] One, two, three

[00:31:52] 12 and 14

[00:31:53] Okay, that didn't work

[00:31:55] Works for me

[00:31:56] No, okay, that's good

[00:31:57] That's great

[00:31:58] I'm like no ringer

[00:31:59] I like hanging out with friends

[00:32:01] And posting on your personal Facebook page?

[00:32:02] Yeah

[00:32:04] So, uh-

[00:32:05] Becca and Tyler

[00:32:06] Mm-hmm

[00:32:07] Two kids

[00:32:08] Yep

[00:32:09] They got a mom

[00:32:10] Hashtag the two kids

[00:32:11] They got a mom, they do got a mom

[00:32:12] Who is-

[00:32:13] Name is Loretta

[00:32:14] Played by the great

[00:32:15] Catherine

[00:32:16] What's up with you with me?

[00:32:17] Uh, yeah, no she's great

[00:32:18] I mean maybe underused

[00:32:19] Yeah

[00:32:20] Yeah, I mean I just

[00:32:21] She's in my least favorite part of the movie

[00:32:23] So it's like-

[00:32:24] You mean the ending

[00:32:25] I think she's wonderful, obviously

[00:32:26] I think that her bit at the beginning

[00:32:28] When she's walking alongside the train

[00:32:30] And at first she's kind of

[00:32:31] Jokey-Lay walking

[00:32:32] And then she's running

[00:32:33] And then she actually gets sad

[00:32:34] And starts crying

[00:32:35] Like, Catherine has the greatest actress

[00:32:37] She's a great actress

[00:32:38] She can do literally anything

[00:32:39] She's got basically nothing to do there

[00:32:41] I mean like just like

[00:32:42] Just fuck around for a second

[00:32:43] There's one thing she can do

[00:32:44] What?

[00:32:45] Did you watch the Abfab

[00:32:47] American remake?

[00:32:48] I did not

[00:32:49] No

[00:32:50] Pilot?

[00:32:51] No

[00:32:52] Holy shit

[00:32:53] Who was it? It was her and who?

[00:32:54] Uh, look it up

[00:32:55] Cause it is-

[00:32:56] It was a Christine Heide-

[00:32:57] Jesse- what?

[00:32:58] If someone else-

[00:32:59] Just look at-

[00:33:00] Like gotta look it up

[00:33:01] Cause I don't remember

[00:33:02] It is-

[00:33:03] The pilot is online

[00:33:04] Or maybe clips of it

[00:33:05] And is one of the worst things

[00:33:06] I've ever watched

[00:33:07] Oh, right

[00:33:08] Kristen Johnson

[00:33:09] From Third Rock

[00:33:10] Oh, interesting

[00:33:11] It's horrendous

[00:33:12] Yeah

[00:33:13] It's probably about six years ago

[00:33:14] I think or seven years ago

[00:33:15] That's the one thing she can do

[00:33:16] The one thing she can't do

[00:33:17] Everything else she does is perfect

[00:33:18] They never should have tried to do that

[00:33:19] No, it was a terrible idea

[00:33:20] It's like it's a possible task

[00:33:21] It's not her fault

[00:33:22] But it is like the worst thing she's done

[00:33:24] Yes

[00:33:25] Yeah, I'll say this though

[00:33:26] She's been very good

[00:33:27] In a lot of very bad films

[00:33:29] Like she has-

[00:33:30] Many times in the past

[00:33:31] Stood out to me as like

[00:33:32] That's an actual good performance

[00:33:33] In the middle of shit

[00:33:34] What's your favorite Catherine Hun movie?

[00:33:36] My favorite Catherine Hun movie?

[00:33:37] Ugh

[00:33:38] Um

[00:33:40] Jesus Christ

[00:33:41] Step brothers

[00:33:42] Probably step brothers

[00:33:44] Alright

[00:33:45] That's my favorite movie she's in

[00:33:46] I also- I think she's great in that

[00:33:47] She's very funny and step brothers

[00:33:49] But you know what I joined too

[00:33:50] I would say

[00:33:51] Afternoon Delight

[00:33:52] I haven't seen Afternoon Delight

[00:33:53] That's on me

[00:33:54] Afternoon Delight's good

[00:33:55] And she's great in it

[00:33:56] And she's also great in Jill Soloway's

[00:33:57] Transparent

[00:33:58] Which is also

[00:33:59] She made Afternoon Delight

[00:34:00] Right to you

[00:34:01] I'll tell you the moment though

[00:34:02] That Catherine Hun really stuck in the

[00:34:03] Crawl from there

[00:34:04] Sexy Rabbi in Transparent

[00:34:05] I'm not

[00:34:06] I haven't watched Transparent either

[00:34:07] Do you know that?

[00:34:08] They're gonna- Amazon's not gonna like this

[00:34:10] Yeah, it's actually true

[00:34:11] Okay, but I do-

[00:34:12] I have a prime membership

[00:34:13] Amazon

[00:34:14] So it doesn't matter what you watch

[00:34:16] They don't care, they got the money

[00:34:17] I'll sign up for fresh

[00:34:18] Yeah, I think she's great in

[00:34:22] Lots of movies she's in

[00:34:23] What else is she in?

[00:34:24] She's in Anchorman

[00:34:25] She's in Tomorrowland

[00:34:26] The one where she really stood out

[00:34:27] For me because I was like

[00:34:28] This- this movie's not working

[00:34:29] Oh, she's great in Wanderlust

[00:34:30] This movie's not working

[00:34:31] And she just like

[00:34:32] Immediately for like

[00:34:33] Five minutes and mute it with real life

[00:34:35] The scene of her delivery

[00:34:37] And how do you know

[00:34:38] Right

[00:34:39] Is great

[00:34:40] And we were just talking about

[00:34:41] How do you know

[00:34:42] Which is crazy

[00:34:43] While you were watching this movie

[00:34:44] As I have not thought about that movie

[00:34:46] In many years

[00:34:47] Yeah

[00:34:48] That is a great scene though

[00:34:49] Where they ask Paul Rudd to film

[00:34:50] The birth

[00:34:51] And then he realizes that

[00:34:53] Oh, no, it's her husband

[00:34:55] Proposes to her

[00:34:56] While she-

[00:34:58] Right after the baby's born

[00:34:59] In the hospital

[00:35:00] She keeps on complaining about

[00:35:01] The fact that he hasn't

[00:35:02] Popped the question

[00:35:03] And then they ask Paul Rudd

[00:35:05] To film it

[00:35:06] And then he proposes

[00:35:07] And then Paul Rudd realizes

[00:35:08] He wasn't filming

[00:35:09] And they have to recreate

[00:35:10] The moment

[00:35:11] How do you remember so much

[00:35:12] About how do you know?

[00:35:13] I don't know

[00:35:14] How do you remember so much?

[00:35:16] I don't know

[00:35:17] I was- I- I-

[00:35:18] I went in the movie with really high expectations

[00:35:20] Even after the reviews were bad

[00:35:21] I was like

[00:35:22] But they don't understand it

[00:35:23] I get James Elbrox

[00:35:25] In a way that other people don't

[00:35:26] Me and Jimmy are on the same wavelength

[00:35:28] And then I-

[00:35:29] And then how did you feel after?

[00:35:30] I am

[00:35:31] Naive?

[00:35:32] Yeah

[00:35:33] Can I feel like a real dummy

[00:35:34] I had a real poopy diaper on my face

[00:35:36] A visit

[00:35:37] And that's a segue too, the visit

[00:35:38] Catherine Hahn, the great Catherine Hahn

[00:35:39] Has these two children

[00:35:40] Her husband left her

[00:35:42] Yeah, which is a-

[00:35:43] And this is a recent scar

[00:35:44] That these kids are bearing

[00:35:45] She was a young mom

[00:35:47] Dropped out of high school

[00:35:48] Got pregnant

[00:35:49] With her substitute teacher

[00:35:50] Yeah, right

[00:35:51] And her parents disapprove

[00:35:52] Hated it

[00:35:53] She delivers this all to like

[00:35:54] An illustrate to camera monologue

[00:35:56] At the beginning of the movie

[00:35:57] This movie's not found footage

[00:35:58] But it's-

[00:35:59] It is-

[00:36:00] It is found footage

[00:36:01] But here's what I like about it

[00:36:02] But it is edited

[00:36:03] You get the idea that the kids

[00:36:04] Edited it later, right?

[00:36:05] Which is the finish

[00:36:06] It makes no sense

[00:36:07] But this movie is the finished film

[00:36:09] That the character intended to make

[00:36:11] Right, he wants to make like a-

[00:36:12] They say they're making like a documentary

[00:36:14] That's like, I mean

[00:36:15] Is that half measure?

[00:36:16] No, I think it kind of is that

[00:36:18] And like the musical cues

[00:36:19] Line up with that

[00:36:20] But at the same time

[00:36:22] It doesn't make any sense

[00:36:23] If you think about it as like an edited film

[00:36:24] There's no reason why

[00:36:26] She would have included the footage

[00:36:27] Of her brother getting a shit diaper in the face

[00:36:29] Hey, man

[00:36:30] Look, it doesn't track 100%

[00:36:31] But on the other hand

[00:36:32] If you watch like Chronicle

[00:36:33] And you're like

[00:36:34] This is just the moments

[00:36:35] They chose to turn the camera on

[00:36:37] I hate Chronicle

[00:36:38] For that very reason

[00:36:39] But I just wish it wasn't found footage

[00:36:40] I think the found footage thing is such a fucking

[00:36:42] I'm gonna go fight him in the sky

[00:36:44] I have to bring the cat

[00:36:45] He like literally

[00:36:46] It doesn't matter

[00:36:47] And they're levitating the camera with their powers

[00:36:48] Like, Pairing on Activity is the one

[00:36:50] Where it's like

[00:36:51] The first Pairing on Activity

[00:36:53] Is totally like a found footage movie

[00:36:55] Because a lot of boring shit happens

[00:36:57] They make it look like this is really just

[00:36:58] A lot of data from tapes

[00:37:00] I think a lot of found footage works

[00:37:01] But it works best if you think of it as like

[00:37:03] Someone pieced this together

[00:37:04] It's not like

[00:37:05] Like any sort of edited version of

[00:37:07] Right

[00:37:08] I like that the visit is like

[00:37:09] This was edited

[00:37:10] I like that they up front

[00:37:11] Or like this is the finished film

[00:37:13] Well, I liked also that like

[00:37:14] When she had the camera toward the end

[00:37:16] It kind of made sense why

[00:37:18] Yeah

[00:37:19] She's using it for light

[00:37:20] Yeah, and I'm like also very cleverly

[00:37:23] I feel like gets a lot of mileage

[00:37:25] And I've always been good at

[00:37:27] Getting tension out of

[00:37:30] Cinematic space

[00:37:32] Your sense of the size of a room

[00:37:34] The proximity between people

[00:37:35] And changing those distances and things like that

[00:37:37] And he uses the fact that's found footage a lot

[00:37:39] To like

[00:37:40] Oh, the camera is here for some practical reason

[00:37:43] Which means you can't see everything

[00:37:45] Or this angle is weird, you know

[00:37:47] Like he gets tension out of the limitations of it

[00:37:50] In a way that I think a lot of found footage filmmakers don't

[00:37:52] But this is stylistically a huge departure for him

[00:37:55] Very much so

[00:37:56] Because he's been this very formalist

[00:37:58] Very tight

[00:37:59] Sort of like tied down

[00:38:00] Not even that much camera movement kind of guy

[00:38:02] You know and very deliberately paced

[00:38:04] And this film's a lot of hand held like

[00:38:06] Chopin Marie Salberdi who's like

[00:38:08] Started out in documentaries, now has become

[00:38:10] A fiction film

[00:38:11] Some photographer, one of the best

[00:38:13] I thought it was just kids filming

[00:38:15] No Lewis, no

[00:38:17] Do they have someone doing it?

[00:38:19] Yeah, Ed Oxenbold was also DP on this

[00:38:21] He was camera operator, yeah

[00:38:22] Camera operator

[00:38:23] That's why they had to find a kid from Australia

[00:38:25] Because they needed a kid who could both act

[00:38:26] And operate a camera at the year

[00:38:28] 12, 12 is the age, yeah

[00:38:30] We said it was 12

[00:38:31] We said it was 12

[00:38:32] We said it was 12

[00:38:33] We said it was 12

[00:38:34] So they're going to see their grandparents

[00:38:36] Who distance themselves from their mother

[00:38:38] After she got knocked up by the high school

[00:38:40] Substitute teacher or whatever

[00:38:42] He left her for a younger woman

[00:38:43] He left her, she's going on a singles cruise

[00:38:46] Or something

[00:38:47] Yeah, she's not doing that

[00:38:48] No, she's a new boyfriend

[00:38:49] She's got the new boyfriend

[00:38:50] But she's not been doing that high

[00:38:52] And Han, like just like

[00:38:53] You just sort of

[00:38:54] She's perfect

[00:38:55] Like you get like

[00:38:56] Oh this is someone who's maybe a little wilder

[00:38:58] In their youth

[00:38:59] Is more settled down now

[00:39:00] But is not like totally let that go

[00:39:02] She's, I love Catherine

[00:39:03] And she also

[00:39:04] You're getting the sadness

[00:39:05] Without her playing it too overtly

[00:39:07] Because all the scenes you're seeing of her

[00:39:08] Are her performing for her kids

[00:39:10] And acting like she's happier than she is

[00:39:12] Then when she gets on the cruise

[00:39:13] They know

[00:39:14] They know

[00:39:15] And you get the underlying sense of it

[00:39:16] Okay, out of my way

[00:39:17] Once she gets on the cruise

[00:39:18] You're seeing these clips

[00:39:19] Of her like actually having fun

[00:39:21] But the opening sections

[00:39:22] Without her fucking kids

[00:39:23] Yeah

[00:39:24] In the way

[00:39:25] Without these bummer-awz-y kids

[00:39:26] So she sends them to go see their grandparents

[00:39:28] Whom she hasn't spoken to in forever

[00:39:31] Right

[00:39:32] Why did she send her 12 and 14 year old kids

[00:39:35] By themselves on a train trip

[00:39:37] To see these people she hasn't talked to

[00:39:39] In like a decade

[00:39:40] Yeah

[00:39:41] You'd think she would drop them off

[00:39:43] I guess the only cover is like

[00:39:45] Well, you know that Rune is so raw

[00:39:47] Still between her and her grandparents

[00:39:49] Or whatever

[00:39:50] It's weird

[00:39:51] It's weird

[00:39:52] That's one of those moments that I couldn't quite

[00:39:53] It's a twist

[00:39:54] I mean it's a, you know

[00:39:55] Like it's necessitated

[00:39:56] It's necessitated a twist

[00:39:57] Yeah

[00:39:58] And you buy it kind of

[00:40:00] Yeah

[00:40:01] Kind of

[00:40:02] I don't know

[00:40:04] Right, I mean kind of

[00:40:05] Kind of

[00:40:06] Like whatever

[00:40:07] Like the movie moves so sort of rapidly

[00:40:09] That you're just like

[00:40:10] Okay, alright, alright

[00:40:11] Yeah

[00:40:13] They get to the house

[00:40:14] They meet them at the train station

[00:40:15] They introduce them to the camera

[00:40:16] Like this is my-

[00:40:17] Oh they have little signs

[00:40:18] This is my Nana

[00:40:19] This is my Pop-Pop

[00:40:20] Yeah

[00:40:21] Which she came up with just then

[00:40:22] Right

[00:40:23] I guess so

[00:40:24] Yeah

[00:40:25] Danigan plays Nana

[00:40:27] Excellent performance

[00:40:28] Great actor

[00:40:29] And Peter McRobbie plays Pop-Pop

[00:40:32] He's also great

[00:40:33] What if I see Indiana Danigan before

[00:40:35] She must be a stage actress

[00:40:36] Augusta S. H. County

[00:40:38] The stage stage

[00:40:40] At least she wanted Tony

[00:40:41] Yeah

[00:40:42] Yeah, okay

[00:40:44] Yeah

[00:40:45] And

[00:40:46] Peter McRobbie

[00:40:47] I was just seeing him in Daredevil

[00:40:49] And you know he's an

[00:40:50] Oh I was in the Borough Empire

[00:40:51] He's in the sort of

[00:40:52] But rarely does he get to

[00:40:53] Shove a shitty diaper

[00:40:55] Into a child's face

[00:40:56] Maybe never before

[00:40:57] That is true

[00:40:58] I could happen on Borough Empire

[00:40:59] No, on Box Office Mojo

[00:41:01] To do a bit we did in the last week's episode

[00:41:03] This is the number one diaper to face

[00:41:05] Movie

[00:41:06] Yeah

[00:41:07] Even a Justice for Inflation

[00:41:08] It's still number one

[00:41:09] I would actually check that

[00:41:12] I feel like that's possibly not true

[00:41:14] Quite right

[00:41:15] Cause there might be some like

[00:41:16] Kids movie where someone gets a diaper

[00:41:17] You never know

[00:41:18] Yeah

[00:41:20] You know what

[00:41:21] I'm not gonna Google Diaper

[00:41:22] Just don't even bother

[00:41:23] You know what

[00:41:24] Jurassic Park does have that scene

[00:41:26] Where Jeff Globlum shoves his diaper

[00:41:27] And Lord Dern's face

[00:41:28] We forgot that

[00:41:30] Sorry

[00:41:31] We all forgot

[00:41:32] I forgot about that

[00:41:33] That's a shitty scene

[00:41:34] No pun intended

[00:41:35] I'm sorry

[00:41:36] I did bad

[00:41:37] The grand parents picked them up

[00:41:39] Negative four comedy points

[00:41:40] The grand parents picked them up

[00:41:41] At the train station

[00:41:42] Guess where it is

[00:41:44] It's in Pennsylvania

[00:41:45] Where's that side filly

[00:41:47] Every fucking M Night movie

[00:41:48] Just is in Pennsylvania

[00:41:50] Is that like he's like the

[00:41:51] That says Stephen King main

[00:41:52] Yes exactly

[00:41:53] Don't you wish

[00:41:54] That after Earth when they land

[00:41:56] And they're like this planet

[00:41:57] We used to live on

[00:41:58] One's called Philadelphia

[00:41:59] Yeah I wish they'd just gone

[00:42:00] Philadelphia

[00:42:04] You know I told that would have been amazing

[00:42:06] They should have at one point

[00:42:07] He should have found the sign

[00:42:08] The Liberty Bell

[00:42:09] He like comes across

[00:42:10] The Liberty Bell overgrown with weeds

[00:42:11] Cause you know in his mind

[00:42:12] He thought it was filly

[00:42:14] Yeah well

[00:42:15] It definitely was I'm sure

[00:42:16] Yeah

[00:42:17] So

[00:42:18] We're on the Pennsylvania main line

[00:42:20] Or something

[00:42:21] Do you think the first dance at M Night's

[00:42:23] Wedding was to Bruce Springsteen's

[00:42:25] Song from the movie Philadelphia

[00:42:26] The Streets of Philadelphia

[00:42:27] Absolutely

[00:42:28] Do you think he jerks off to that song

[00:42:29] What a dark choice for a wedding

[00:42:31] Terrible wedding song by the way

[00:42:33] He just loves film so much

[00:42:34] About AIDS

[00:42:35] And homelessness or whatever

[00:42:37] The people who lived in Philadelphia

[00:42:39] Hate that that movie was called Philadelphia

[00:42:40] I know like finally we got a movie

[00:42:41] Called Philadelphia

[00:42:42] It's about what's it about

[00:42:43] It's about AIDS

[00:42:44] Who does, oh dad I love Denzel Washington

[00:42:46] Who plays a homophobic lawyer

[00:42:48] Okay alright well Tom Hanks though

[00:42:50] What's he doing

[00:42:51] He's so funny

[00:42:52] It's like if you made a movie called New York City

[00:42:54] And it was all about institutionalized sexism

[00:42:56] It's like well this is one thing

[00:42:58] That's where the movie takes place

[00:43:00] That doesn't mean it's about New York

[00:43:02] Like were they just like you know

[00:43:04] Isn't the plot of slaves in New York

[00:43:06] Right

[00:43:07] Were they just like

[00:43:08] Philadelphia

[00:43:09] Like what was the conversation

[00:43:11] About titling a movie

[00:43:12] Were they just like

[00:43:13] You know I think AIDS was still on the nose

[00:43:15] Yeah

[00:43:16] And they were like

[00:43:17] They thought about AIDS guy

[00:43:18] And that sounded reductive

[00:43:19] Right right right

[00:43:20] He's more than an AIDS guy god damn it

[00:43:22] He likes opera

[00:43:23] That was the thing big was so big

[00:43:24] They were like people like these Hanks movies

[00:43:26] With short titles

[00:43:27] Bam!

[00:43:28] The title

[00:43:29] AIDS

[00:43:30] Splash

[00:43:31] Splash

[00:43:33] What if it was called splashing it

[00:43:35] Alright look

[00:43:36] Guys

[00:43:37] The visit

[00:43:38] You certainly made a big splash in that courtroom

[00:43:39] The visit

[00:43:40] The visit

[00:43:41] Directed by him and I trauma lens

[00:43:42] His 11th film was released September 11th 2015

[00:43:44] Well I think the reason we're struggling to get back on track

[00:43:46] With the plot of the visit is that it's not

[00:43:48] A plotting movie

[00:43:49] It's not a plotting movie

[00:43:50] But it's just such a good hook

[00:43:52] I remember when I saw the trailer for it I was like

[00:43:54] That's a great idea for a movie

[00:43:55] Because who hasn't been afraid of their fucking

[00:43:57] Grandparents being weird

[00:43:58] Not I

[00:43:59] Like it's playing on that anxiety of like

[00:44:01] Oh you're in a new house

[00:44:02] You're a kid and you're used to your routines

[00:44:04] And you know

[00:44:05] Maybe you're like with your grandmother

[00:44:06] And like her false teeth fall out

[00:44:08] And you're like oh my god she's a fucking alien

[00:44:10] Yeah have you guys seen the take of Deborah Logan

[00:44:12] No

[00:44:13] I don't even know what that is

[00:44:14] That's also a found footage movie

[00:44:15] Okay

[00:44:16] Is it also um uh Blumhouse?

[00:44:18] It's not

[00:44:19] Okay I don't think

[00:44:20] It was a Netflix

[00:44:21] I think it was a straight-to-Netflix

[00:44:22] Looks creepy from the Google

[00:44:24] Okay so that's a movie in which

[00:44:26] Alright he's turning the computer around

[00:44:27] Oh creepy

[00:44:28] So

[00:44:29] Oh creepy

[00:44:30] It's a demonic possession movie

[00:44:32] But it's about a woman

[00:44:34] Making a documentary about Alzheimer's

[00:44:37] Following this woman around

[00:44:38] And the symptoms of Alzheimer's

[00:44:40] Like we're flat

[00:44:41] Like so it's very unclear if like this is just dementia

[00:44:44] And people keep saying like wow it's just Alzheimer's

[00:44:46] Right there's like

[00:44:47] The behaviors that's like the aggression

[00:44:49] And like the mood swings

[00:44:51] And like the weird nudity and all that stuff

[00:44:53] Is like all explained by

[00:44:55] Being old and having problems with your brain

[00:44:58] And I feel like that visit does a very similar thing

[00:45:00] It works on that same thing

[00:45:01] And it's a very clever hook because it's like

[00:45:03] It's already scary to spend time

[00:45:05] With someone who's losing their mind

[00:45:07] Right

[00:45:08] Right and when it's an old person

[00:45:10] Oh fuck this might just be them slowly rotting

[00:45:13] Like from the inside out

[00:45:14] That's what works about this sort of premise

[00:45:17] That they haven't seen her in a long time

[00:45:19] You know the mom hasn't seen her in a long time

[00:45:21] She can't say to them like wow

[00:45:23] That's just the grandpas

[00:45:24] You know my mom is like totally weird

[00:45:26] And walks around their house naked at night

[00:45:28] It's too long for her

[00:45:29] Like maybe they're just going crazy

[00:45:31] Maybe they're just old now

[00:45:32] Maybe they're just getting seen now

[00:45:33] Maybe they just spilled pancake batter

[00:45:35] Or whatever it was on the camera

[00:45:37] This movie looks fucking scary by the way

[00:45:39] The Logan

[00:45:41] Yeah I really like that movie you should watch it

[00:45:44] Not right now

[00:45:45] No I'm not going to watch it right this second

[00:45:47] That's our first official Pights Pick

[00:45:49] Paching

[00:45:50] Alright

[00:45:51] Pights Pick

[00:45:52] Pights Pick

[00:45:53] Hashtag it

[00:45:54] So yeah

[00:45:55] Pretty quickly

[00:45:57] The grandparents are pretty normal in the daytime

[00:45:59] Yeah

[00:46:00] We should also talk about the kids does rapping

[00:46:03] Keeps rapping

[00:46:04] Do we have to talk about that?

[00:46:05] Well we just did I guess

[00:46:07] And your reaction says it all right?

[00:46:09] Kid likes rapping what's his name is

[00:46:11] T-Stylus Moneybags

[00:46:13] M Night

[00:46:15] Clearly you have to think one of M Night's kids

[00:46:19] Is taken with freestyle rapping

[00:46:22] And he was like oh that's like what the kids do

[00:46:25] I have to say I wasn't super impressed by his

[00:46:27] Pineapple Upside Down Cake Rap

[00:46:29] It's not the best

[00:46:30] It's not very good

[00:46:31] It's mostly impressed with itself for including

[00:46:33] Pineapple Upside Down Cake

[00:46:34] I did appreciate that his sister called him out

[00:46:36] And he was like he was like he was like

[00:46:38] I was like good and every rap with a hoe

[00:46:40] But also all his raps they don't fit into the right meter

[00:46:42] Like there are always a couple extra syllables

[00:46:44] He's not great

[00:46:45] That's on M Night though

[00:46:47] Maybe his smell

[00:46:48] Maybe it's supposed to be bad

[00:46:49] There's the scene with the train conductor that is

[00:46:51] A bridge too far

[00:46:52] Yup

[00:46:53] We don't need that

[00:46:54] Yeah

[00:46:55] It's definitely like Leigh of Shriver

[00:46:57] And Scarlett Johansson on Broadway

[00:46:58] That is

[00:46:59] A bridge too far

[00:47:00] That was a view from the bridge

[00:47:01] God damn it

[00:47:03] Yeah

[00:47:04] Oh my god

[00:47:05] I really pushed your button there

[00:47:07] Because it would have been such a good joke otherwise

[00:47:09] It would have been such a good joke

[00:47:10] I'm fortunate on something even the most recent production

[00:47:12] I know there's a much stronger than just close

[00:47:14] More recent one was better

[00:47:15] It was so good

[00:47:16] It was so good

[00:47:17] So good

[00:47:18] I was on this stage

[00:47:19] Me too

[00:47:20] In the front rows

[00:47:21] Incredible

[00:47:22] Yeah

[00:47:23] Sorry go ahead

[00:47:24] With your co-worker Rachel Sanders

[00:47:25] Shout out Rachel Sanders

[00:47:26] More jokes

[00:47:27] Alright

[00:47:28] Hey

[00:47:29] What's up guys

[00:47:30] So when

[00:47:32] I don't know

[00:47:33] I think the twist in this movie

[00:47:34] Is obvious from pretty early on

[00:47:36] But I don't think it

[00:47:38] You're enjoying the movie

[00:47:39] Agreed

[00:47:40] I think it's fine

[00:47:41] Like you can totally enjoy the movie

[00:47:42] Even knowing that

[00:47:43] I think that's the key to this movie

[00:47:44] Is that Shyamalan made a twist movie again

[00:47:45] For the first time in a long time

[00:47:47] But he didn't like

[00:47:48] Hinge the movie on it

[00:47:50] You know something fucked up is going to happen

[00:47:52] But I think that like

[00:47:53] There are a lot of like

[00:47:55] False flags

[00:47:56] Sure

[00:47:57] As I would call them

[00:47:58] Of like supernatural elements

[00:47:59] That you think might come into play

[00:48:00] But

[00:48:02] I think that just the fact that it's like

[00:48:04] There's so much effort made

[00:48:05] For Katherine Hans not see

[00:48:07] The grandparents

[00:48:08] That it just becomes pretty obvious

[00:48:09] That it's not going to be them

[00:48:10] Right

[00:48:11] Well okay

[00:48:12] So this is my thing

[00:48:13] First of all

[00:48:14] The twist happens like

[00:48:15] 25 minutes before the movie ends

[00:48:17] So whereas most of his films

[00:48:19] He drops the twist at the end

[00:48:20] And it's like the final bombshell

[00:48:21] This he allows essentially

[00:48:23] A full act to play out

[00:48:24] In the wake of the twist

[00:48:25] Yeah

[00:48:26] Which is better

[00:48:27] Right

[00:48:28] The consequences of that twist

[00:48:29] But also like

[00:48:30] It doesn't really matter what the twist is

[00:48:31] Because it's so

[00:48:32] It's so creepy by that point

[00:48:33] And scary

[00:48:34] It doesn't really matter what happens

[00:48:35] Yeah

[00:48:36] The scares are from there in this

[00:48:38] Like Backwoods Town

[00:48:39] They don't have a phone signal

[00:48:41] Like you know

[00:48:42] The doors are locked

[00:48:43] And there's this rule

[00:48:44] Really early on

[00:48:45] That's good

[00:48:46] It's a good rule

[00:48:47] Like the gremlins rule

[00:48:48] Of like

[00:48:49] Don't come out of your room after 9.30

[00:48:50] Because like

[00:48:51] That's when things go bump in the night

[00:48:52] You don't want

[00:48:53] Like they don't say

[00:48:54] Why or anything like that

[00:48:55] They don't actually say

[00:48:56] Don't go onto your room at 9.30

[00:48:57] Do they?

[00:48:58] No he does

[00:48:59] That's his

[00:49:00] The first time he just says

[00:49:01] We go to bed early

[00:49:02] We're old

[00:49:03] We go to bed early 9.30

[00:49:04] And then the second time

[00:49:05] He says I really think it's best

[00:49:06] If you don't

[00:49:07] Okay yeah

[00:49:08] But I was

[00:49:09] After he sees

[00:49:10] The grandma barfing

[00:49:11] Like walking

[00:49:12] And just like

[00:49:13] Spewing vomit down the stairs

[00:49:14] So I

[00:49:15] Didn't see the twist coming

[00:49:16] But it's because

[00:49:17] And this is like me

[00:49:19] Just being

[00:49:20] You know

[00:49:21] Overthinking it

[00:49:22] Yeah

[00:49:23] Because I was

[00:49:24] I didn't know this was a twist movie

[00:49:25] Right

[00:49:26] I've only been told recently

[00:49:27] Like oh no it has a twist

[00:49:28] Uh huh

[00:49:29] So I went into it

[00:49:30] And there's the shit

[00:49:31] Where like she talks about

[00:49:32] Like the creatures in the water

[00:49:33] And stuff

[00:49:34] Oh right

[00:49:35] And I was like

[00:49:36] Is he fucking gonna do

[00:49:37] Are they gonna be aliens

[00:49:38] Or something

[00:49:39] Right

[00:49:40] Then the grand pop

[00:49:41] Pop-pop

[00:49:42] Talking about the

[00:49:43] Little white person

[00:49:44] The little man

[00:49:45] Who's like

[00:49:46] Falling around with yellow eyes

[00:49:47] Or whatever

[00:49:48] Like I was really afraid

[00:49:49] It was gonna be something

[00:49:50] A lot bigger and crazier

[00:49:51] Sure

[00:49:52] I thought

[00:49:53] Especially because of how much

[00:49:54] They push

[00:49:55] In the

[00:49:56] In the trailer

[00:49:57] They're going to cook and eat

[00:49:58] I thought it was gonna be

[00:49:59] A fucking modern

[00:50:00] Hansel and Gretel

[00:50:01] That was

[00:50:02] I mean that's obviously what

[00:50:03] They're going for

[00:50:04] Yeah but I thought they were

[00:50:05] Literally gonna make it like

[00:50:06] Oh she's a witch

[00:50:07] And she's gonna put you

[00:50:08] In like a fucking candy cage

[00:50:09] Like I thought

[00:50:10] Because there were a couple

[00:50:11] Things they mentioned

[00:50:12] Candy a bunch in the beginning

[00:50:13] They have her clean out

[00:50:14] The oven

[00:50:15] I was like

[00:50:16] It's gonna get super natural

[00:50:17] And I appreciate that

[00:50:18] Just like they're crazy people

[00:50:19] They're crazy murderers

[00:50:20] And then the thing is

[00:50:21] They're also dropping that

[00:50:22] They drop references to

[00:50:23] The mental institution

[00:50:24] And they volunteer there

[00:50:25] But that's the thing is

[00:50:26] Like when that guy shows up

[00:50:27] And they're not there

[00:50:28] And he's like

[00:50:29] They haven't been to work

[00:50:30] I was just like

[00:50:31] Okay so they're like

[00:50:32] Obviously dead somewhere

[00:50:33] Let me also say

[00:50:34] Spoilers

[00:50:35] Oh yeah spoiler alert

[00:50:36] Guys

[00:50:37] If you listen to this podcast

[00:50:38] You know we talk about

[00:50:39] The whole fucking movie

[00:50:40] I mean I'm joking

[00:50:41] I'm joking

[00:50:42] It was like a winking

[00:50:43] Like

[00:50:44] Spoilers

[00:50:45] Yes

[00:50:47] Let's talk about

[00:50:48] The things they do

[00:50:49] Before this twist

[00:50:50] Right

[00:50:51] So there's the

[00:50:52] Grandma's like barfing

[00:50:53] The house

[00:50:54] Yeah she also gets

[00:50:55] Butt ass naked

[00:50:56] Butt ass naked

[00:50:57] Stands against the door

[00:50:59] What is that

[00:51:00] She plays hide and seek

[00:51:02] Yeah

[00:51:03] And he was

[00:51:04] Terrifying scene

[00:51:05] Under the house

[00:51:06] They're like under the house

[00:51:07] Yeah

[00:51:08] And I guess are they looking

[00:51:09] For something at that point

[00:51:10] Or are they just

[00:51:11] Fucking around

[00:51:12] The mom had told them

[00:51:13] That she liked playing hide and seek

[00:51:14] Under the house

[00:51:15] And so she just pops up

[00:51:16] In front of the camera

[00:51:17] And is like

[00:51:18] It's fast

[00:51:19] It is so

[00:51:20] Scary

[00:51:21] Is that the part

[00:51:22] I texted Griffin

[00:51:23] That I startled someone awake this morning

[00:51:25] Humble brag

[00:51:26] Alright

[00:51:28] Alright

[00:51:29] Watching the visit

[00:51:30] No it's fine

[00:51:31] No go ahead

[00:51:32] That's all I have

[00:51:35] But you because you yelled aloud

[00:51:36] Yes

[00:51:37] Because it's scary

[00:51:38] But I had seen the movie before

[00:51:39] I had seen it

[00:51:40] And I was like

[00:51:41] I was watching again

[00:51:42] And I was like

[00:51:43] I wouldn't be scared

[00:51:44] But I was watching it with my earphones in

[00:51:45] Which is really

[00:51:46] The craziest way to take in a horror movie

[00:51:47] Whenever I watch a horror movie on headphones

[00:51:49] I'm like

[00:51:50] I can't believe I'm doing this myself

[00:51:51] But can we talk about like

[00:51:52] Nana's fucking

[00:51:53] Booking it in that moment

[00:51:55] Oh she is

[00:51:56] Because she's on hands and knees

[00:51:57] She's moving at the speed of a scrunt

[00:51:59] I mean it is unbelievable

[00:52:02] Well I think it's

[00:52:03] It definitely plays into the fact

[00:52:04] That you think she's going to be

[00:52:05] Some sort of creature

[00:52:06] Yes

[00:52:07] Because she sees us very

[00:52:08] Right at that point

[00:52:09] I'm not classic Blumhouse

[00:52:10] Yeah

[00:52:11] I mean that's a classic Blumhouse scare

[00:52:12] Where something suddenly moves too quickly

[00:52:14] Basically

[00:52:15] Something like rushes in the camera

[00:52:16] Or something like that

[00:52:17] It's gonna be supernatural

[00:52:18] It's gonna be a witch

[00:52:19] An alien

[00:52:20] Something

[00:52:21] But no

[00:52:22] But what's here

[00:52:23] But after that

[00:52:24] She goes back to normal

[00:52:25] Which actually makes it scarier

[00:52:26] Because like it's very

[00:52:27] They keep going back and forth

[00:52:28] Between being totally crazy

[00:52:29] And totally chill

[00:52:30] Well they have episodes

[00:52:31] When he wrote this script

[00:52:33] The spec script

[00:52:34] The

[00:52:36] Title of it

[00:52:37] Originally was sundowning

[00:52:38] Right

[00:52:39] And they do have a reference

[00:52:40] To it in the movie

[00:52:41] They explain at a certain point

[00:52:42] In the movie that's a sort of

[00:52:43] Conditional dementia

[00:52:44] That kicks in when the sun goes down

[00:52:45] Not a real thing right

[00:52:46] Is it not a real thing?

[00:52:47] I have no idea

[00:52:48] Can we Google it right now

[00:52:49] It is a symptom of Alzheimer's disease

[00:52:52] With confusion and agitation

[00:52:54] Worse in the evening

[00:52:55] Okay

[00:52:56] Perhaps a slight exaggeration

[00:52:57] Of this

[00:52:58] So it's like a form of yeah

[00:52:59] But I think that

[00:53:00] It preys upon that fear

[00:53:01] That we all have

[00:53:02] Like really really well

[00:53:03] And it also makes it scarier

[00:53:05] Because it's like

[00:53:06] I can't

[00:53:07] I don't know

[00:53:08] But the hide and seek thing

[00:53:09] Is they're gonna die

[00:53:10] Yeah

[00:53:11] But also it's like not

[00:53:12] There's nothing wrong

[00:53:13] Theoretically with chasing

[00:53:14] Your grandchildren under a house

[00:53:15] No no

[00:53:16] I'm just saying the movie

[00:53:17] Works with these ebbs and flows

[00:53:18] They can go back to normal

[00:53:19] Any one scene

[00:53:20] And because they're saying

[00:53:21] We're dealing with senility

[00:53:22] And we're dealing with this

[00:53:23] Like daylight issue

[00:53:24] You never know what you're

[00:53:25] Gonna fucking get

[00:53:27] You know classic forest gump style

[00:53:30] So it works on that

[00:53:32] Really well

[00:53:33] Like it's a clever

[00:53:34] Kind of fucking device

[00:53:36] Right

[00:53:38] Pop-pop has his moments too

[00:53:40] But they're more like normal

[00:53:41] Old people moments

[00:53:42] Pop-pop keeps on going off

[00:53:43] To a shed

[00:53:44] He doesn't want them in the shed

[00:53:45] Then they get in there

[00:53:46] As a pile of diapers

[00:53:47] And then put the diapers on the table

[00:53:49] He doesn't...

[00:53:50] I don't think he likes to be with pants

[00:53:51] You're right

[00:53:52] He loves it

[00:53:53] He loves to poop his pants

[00:53:54] And then he puts them on a diaper

[00:53:55] Pile on the table

[00:53:56] He also goes to...

[00:53:58] Gets dressed up to go to a party

[00:53:59] He does

[00:54:00] Yeah, he thinks he's going to a costume

[00:54:01] Just up in a tux

[00:54:02] Yeah

[00:54:03] It's very sad pop-pop

[00:54:04] He looks so handsome

[00:54:05] In that little tux

[00:54:06] Sad pop-

[00:54:07] That reference will be gone in two weeks

[00:54:08] I'm trying to ground this

[00:54:09] In the time period guys

[00:54:11] In two weeks he's gonna be dead

[00:54:13] Sad pop-

[00:54:14] Oh boy

[00:54:15] Sad pop-pop will have

[00:54:16] The tact is children with the diapers

[00:54:18] Yeah

[00:54:20] He's gone

[00:54:21] They started like stuffing him with burgers

[00:54:22] Because they were like

[00:54:23] He's the money maker

[00:54:25] We're gonna be famous forever

[00:54:27] Sad pop-pop

[00:54:30] Chicken farm this week

[00:54:32] Alright anyway

[00:54:33] Alright

[00:54:36] Yeah, no what's the other thing he does though

[00:54:37] Because there's the diapers

[00:54:38] There's the tux

[00:54:39] I think he's got a shot

[00:54:40] I think someone's following him

[00:54:41] So he attacks the guy in the street

[00:54:42] That's the thing

[00:54:43] That's the thing

[00:54:44] That's right

[00:54:45] Yeah, he thinks that there's like a demonic person

[00:54:47] Following him

[00:54:48] But like all normal old people

[00:54:50] Like scary old people behavior

[00:54:52] Exactly

[00:54:53] And like this is often like the kids will go to the other

[00:54:56] Grandparent

[00:54:57] And the other grandparent will say like

[00:54:58] Oh he's like a little demented

[00:55:00] Or like oh he's incontinent

[00:55:01] He's a very physical man

[00:55:02] He's ashamed

[00:55:03] That he's not as strong as he used to be

[00:55:05] And like

[00:55:06] Why is she vomiting and naked?

[00:55:07] Oh she has the stomach flu

[00:55:08] Why is she scratching

[00:55:10] At the walls and

[00:55:11] Well that happens

[00:55:12] So that's a great scene

[00:55:13] Right that's sort of midway through the movie

[00:55:15] They decide we're going to leave a secret camera

[00:55:17] Downstairs to watch what happens at night

[00:55:20] And she's like wandering around

[00:55:22] I love that they have two cameras

[00:55:23] That he's just like

[00:55:24] Why not just fucking give him a second camera

[00:55:26] Two cameras, two cameras

[00:55:28] And then she just sort of pops up in front of the camera again

[00:55:30] It's so scary

[00:55:31] It's great

[00:55:32] And gets a knife

[00:55:33] And tries to go into their room

[00:55:35] And then it's them

[00:55:36] Close door and they hear the scratching from the door

[00:55:39] It's great

[00:55:40] It's fucking great

[00:55:41] Let's just say

[00:55:42] It's very paranormal activity three

[00:55:44] Except less, no supernatural

[00:55:45] The best one?

[00:55:46] But the two kids

[00:55:47] No

[00:55:48] Which is your favorite one?

[00:55:49] I don't know, I haven't seen them

[00:55:50] They also all blend together

[00:55:51] It's like I've watched all those together

[00:55:53] In all the Saw movies

[00:55:54] And I can barely tell you the differences

[00:55:55] I've admittedly only

[00:55:56] Because to me with paranormal activity

[00:55:57] I agree on the Saw movies

[00:55:58] But for me one in three are great

[00:56:00] And the others didn't do anything

[00:56:02] Yes, I think I only saw one in three

[00:56:04] And I think I prefer three to one

[00:56:05] I've seen one through I think four or five

[00:56:07] So you didn't see the ghost dimension?

[00:56:08] No

[00:56:09] Is that what it was called?

[00:56:10] Yes, did you see the marked ones?

[00:56:12] No

[00:56:13] I mean

[00:56:14] I've only seen one, two, four

[00:56:15] One, two, three, four

[00:56:16] So there were four enumerated sequels

[00:56:17] And then two like

[00:56:18] It goes one, two, three

[00:56:20] And then the marked ones

[00:56:22] Then four, then ghost dimension

[00:56:24] Actually I'm going to say this about the Saw series

[00:56:26] Is that generally like in the moot

[00:56:28] Like the um

[00:56:29] There's some sort of

[00:56:30] The main plot in the movie

[00:56:31] I can usually distinguish between them

[00:56:33] Like what's going on

[00:56:34] It's the overarching like terrible

[00:56:36] Saw mythology

[00:56:37] The mythology that it's like

[00:56:38] It's like worse than X-Files

[00:56:39] Covelin is

[00:56:40] Especially since they kill them

[00:56:41] They kill them off really early

[00:56:43] I think at the end of three he dies

[00:56:45] Yeah, three I think it is

[00:56:46] But then there's all this shit

[00:56:48] Where they keep bringing him back

[00:56:49] So people who are dead are always alive

[00:56:51] And always doing shit

[00:56:52] Luke Danes isn't it for a while

[00:56:54] He's in like three of them

[00:56:55] For too long

[00:56:56] There's seven Saws?

[00:56:57] Is that right?

[00:56:58] Coastus uh

[00:56:59] Mandel

[00:57:00] What's this guy's name?

[00:57:01] I'm not making it up

[00:57:02] It's something Greek

[00:57:03] Yeah um

[00:57:04] Let me find it

[00:57:05] Because now I feel like I'm making up a name

[00:57:07] Coastus Mandelor

[00:57:09] I was on the right track

[00:57:11] He's kind of the sub villain

[00:57:13] Right like he sort of takes over

[00:57:15] Or is he

[00:57:16] And he's a Mandalorian right

[00:57:17] He is a Mandalorian

[00:57:18] Yes from Mandalore

[00:57:19] Yeah

[00:57:21] Star Wars

[00:57:22] Okay shout out there

[00:57:24] Shout out to Star Wars

[00:57:25] Shout out to the bad Star Wars movies

[00:57:29] Fuck I totally lost my trade of thought

[00:57:31] Oh anyway Paranole activity three

[00:57:32] Is the 80s one and that's really good

[00:57:34] Yeah see I like the aesthetics

[00:57:35] That's what I was thinking

[00:57:36] The two girls in the bedroom

[00:57:37] Great scene

[00:57:38] And it's also the one with the oscillating

[00:57:40] Yes the oscillating fan camera

[00:57:42] Which is obviously completely ludicrous

[00:57:44] Yeah

[00:57:45] In terms of plausibility

[00:57:46] But you have that shot of the sheet falling

[00:57:48] I mean I like that's VHS

[00:57:50] Speaking of VHS

[00:57:52] VHS

[00:57:53] The VHS movies are great found footage movies

[00:57:55] Well

[00:57:56] They have great found footage movies in them

[00:57:58] Exactly they have great

[00:57:59] And bad ones

[00:58:00] And bad ones

[00:58:01] Actually the third one's terrible

[00:58:02] I haven't seen the third one

[00:58:03] It's terrible the first two

[00:58:04] I think are very

[00:58:05] I think the two's better than one

[00:58:06] What's the third one called?

[00:58:07] VHS viral

[00:58:08] Which you know is going to be a fucking mess

[00:58:10] Yeah cause the second one's SVHS right?

[00:58:12] No it's just VHS2

[00:58:13] Oh really?

[00:58:14] Yeah

[00:58:15] I thought they called it SVHS

[00:58:16] That's a more clever idea that you can

[00:58:17] I think they talked about

[00:58:19] This is my

[00:58:20] It was originally titled SVHS

[00:58:21] This is my new segment where I come up with better

[00:58:23] Titles for sequels

[00:58:24] I agree that a VHS2 is better

[00:58:26] I think they saw VHS1 and then we're like

[00:58:28] Okay

[00:58:29] VHS2 has the cult one right

[00:58:31] And also has the GoPro zombie outbreak

[00:58:33] Yes

[00:58:34] So good

[00:58:36] Those are pretty fun movies guys

[00:58:38] The visit

[00:58:39] Directed by M. Night Shyamalan

[00:58:40] It's been in horror these days you know

[00:58:42] September 11, 2015 it's his 11th film

[00:58:45] So there's lots of bad things happening

[00:58:47] Oh can we say this though cause we even set this up properly

[00:58:49] The girl the reason she's filming all this

[00:58:52] Is she's making a film

[00:58:54] She wants to film her grandparents

[00:58:56] And get them to like forgive her on camera

[00:58:59] So she can make this film to show to her mom

[00:59:01] To reunite the whole family

[00:59:02] She's also really pretentious and like

[00:59:04] Has aspirations of like being a great filmmaker

[00:59:06] Of course

[00:59:07] She wants to like win an Oscar

[00:59:09] But yes the other role is that she wants to

[00:59:11] Yeah get an apology for her mom

[00:59:13] Well I think it's like a double edged sort of

[00:59:15] Or a forget, no forgiveness for her mom

[00:59:17] But also I think she's trying to understand why her own father left

[00:59:19] 100%

[00:59:20] Right there's that element

[00:59:21] She both wants to like

[00:59:24] She's at a level of film obsession

[00:59:27] You get to at that age where you're like

[00:59:29] Whatever I'm into right now I think this is everything

[00:59:31] Like maybe it's like soccer or fucking film making

[00:59:33] Or like eating a pie or like whatever it is

[00:59:35] The things that Noah ringers into

[00:59:37] Right exactly

[00:59:38] Having a Facebook page

[00:59:40] He loves it

[00:59:41] You guys gotta check out Noah ringer's Facebook page

[00:59:43] It's Friendster I mean

[00:59:44] It's fucking Wikipedia what am I talking about

[00:59:46] Snow skiing

[00:59:47] He likes snow skiing

[00:59:48] Something weird like that

[00:59:49] Yeah I got so worried it was water skiing for a second

[00:59:51] And then I realized it was snow skiing

[00:59:52] Wait okay okay but here's the thing

[00:59:54] I want to go back to the thing about her dad

[00:59:56] I just want to say this quick

[00:59:57] No you, no okay go ahead

[00:59:58] Just before I forget

[01:00:00] Yeah we're touching fingers

[01:00:01] Uh huh

[01:00:02] The thing I like is that it's like at that age

[01:00:04] Where you both feel like

[01:00:05] Oh movies are what I understand

[01:00:07] So movies are a solution for everything

[01:00:08] If I want my mother to reconcile with her parents

[01:00:11] I gotta use a movie

[01:00:12] And also thinking like kind of cravenly like

[01:00:15] Oh if I'm trying to make good movies this is really good

[01:00:17] Right right

[01:00:18] But like I can use my family's suffering

[01:00:20] For the sake of my movie

[01:00:21] Like I think it's a pretty well written 14 year old girl

[01:00:24] And that's sense

[01:00:25] I thought she was really irritating in a believable way

[01:00:27] Yeah and using the big dictionary words

[01:00:29] Is like I kept on thinking he was going to do some dumb payoff with that

[01:00:32] Like the way he does with like the water cups or whatever

[01:00:35] In signs

[01:00:36] And I was like oh no she's just like a shitty kid

[01:00:38] Who wants everyone to think that she's smart

[01:00:39] Right

[01:00:40] That brings true

[01:00:41] Just like Shyamalan

[01:00:42] Yeah that Noah ringer is true

[01:00:43] Uh Louis what were you gonna say?

[01:00:45] I was going to say

[01:00:46] You have to wait a little bit

[01:00:49] Because I'm gonna warm up to it

[01:00:50] No I uh, I understand that like there's something connected

[01:00:54] With her making this movie

[01:00:55] With like coping with her dad leaving the family

[01:00:59] But that is a, I thought that was like the worst part of the movie

[01:01:03] Is like trying to put that in there

[01:01:05] Because I didn't ever believe that there was connection between

[01:01:08] I agree

[01:01:09] The main story and the dad stuff

[01:01:10] It just feels a little forced

[01:01:11] And it's the one time that the found footage thing doesn't work

[01:01:13] Because it feels like it's being forced into the movie

[01:01:16] I agree

[01:01:17] Especially in this sort of cathartic final act

[01:01:19] Well there's just something, yeah I mean like I

[01:01:21] It isn't really, what does it have anything to do with like

[01:01:24] It wasn't like

[01:01:26] If she were, well it wouldn't make sense either

[01:01:27] But if she were visiting like her dad's parents

[01:01:30] Then there would be something like trying to understand him

[01:01:32] But it's not, what connection do they have to this guy

[01:01:34] Who like ran away with their daughter

[01:01:36] Like they don't care about the dad at all

[01:01:38] And like they don't want to be part of

[01:01:39] They weren't part of that relationship

[01:01:40] They didn't want to have any part of it

[01:01:41] So why would this help her understand why he left

[01:01:45] Yeah I hear that

[01:01:46] I don't, I just don't see any connection

[01:01:48] That kind of works for me I'm just thinking like Mr. Softy

[01:01:52] You're definitely Mr. Softy

[01:01:54] I think it works

[01:01:55] I just think it could have worked a little better

[01:01:57] It's forced, it's definitely forced

[01:01:58] It's just everything else works perfect

[01:02:01] Yeah

[01:02:02] So you know

[01:02:03] We talk about like okay so the happening

[01:02:06] Am I like hid behind this defensive like

[01:02:08] It's the best B movie ever

[01:02:09] If you think it's bad you don't get it

[01:02:11] I was trying to make it like that

[01:02:12] Yeah

[01:02:13] This movie is actually him being like

[01:02:14] Okay I'm gonna go pulpy

[01:02:16] Yeah I'm gonna go B

[01:02:17] This is a B movie

[01:02:18] This is like a real B movie

[01:02:19] Like if he wants to, yeah

[01:02:20] And it's like he dropped all his pretensions

[01:02:22] You know

[01:02:23] He was just like let me focus on character

[01:02:25] Oh I thought you were talking about the Jerry Seinfeld vehicle

[01:02:27] Well he was the first director on board that

[01:02:29] They pushed him off that because he and Jerry were fighting

[01:02:31] Yeah, dear, dear, dear

[01:02:32] Yeah, oh dear

[01:02:34] Dear okay

[01:02:35] No his take on the movie was very strange

[01:02:37] You got anything?

[01:02:41] He was, for what it is

[01:02:42] Yeah go on, go on, go on

[01:02:44] They thought they were in a hive the whole time

[01:02:46] And then at the end of the movie it turned out they were underwater

[01:02:48] Okay

[01:02:49] That was his twist

[01:02:51] Also Joaquin Phoenix is gonna play Jerry Seinfeld

[01:02:53] I just kicked someone on the table

[01:02:55] Someone, it was me

[01:02:57] Alright back in it guys

[01:02:59] No secrets, it was me

[01:03:01] Hey guys, yeah

[01:03:03] It was a visit September 11th

[01:03:05] Never forget that it came out

[01:03:07] Alright, 11th movie

[01:03:08] I wanna talk about the weird lady who shows up

[01:03:10] Cause I like that scene

[01:03:11] Silja Keen-Bulger

[01:03:12] Silja Keen-Bulger

[01:03:13] She's a, yeah she's a great actress

[01:03:15] She's a Broadway star

[01:03:17] Three time Tony nominee

[01:03:18] She was in what was she in?

[01:03:20] Bellingbee

[01:03:21] Glassman Adry

[01:03:22] She played under

[01:03:24] She's in Saved

[01:03:25] Right?

[01:03:26] Yeah

[01:03:27] But she was just in

[01:03:28] She was just in Glassman Adry with

[01:03:29] Cherry Jones I believe

[01:03:30] Right?

[01:03:31] She played

[01:03:32] That sounds right

[01:03:33] Do you think Knight just sees like a lot of plays on Broadway

[01:03:35] He just loves plays

[01:03:36] Cause he's always

[01:03:37] Hiring theater actors

[01:03:38] I think they're cheaper

[01:03:39] Well, you know

[01:03:40] Oh, I'll say this too

[01:03:42] And he likes East Coast

[01:03:43] And I also think that

[01:03:45] This is sort of unfair

[01:03:46] But I think when you're doing like

[01:03:47] I think they can often be a little more natural

[01:03:49] And then found footage type movies

[01:03:50] Like it works better to have people who are a little bit more

[01:03:53] Muted in that way

[01:03:54] I don't know

[01:03:55] Which, I will say this to you

[01:03:57] His casting director on every one of his films

[01:04:01] I think post wide awake

[01:04:03] He's had the same cast director on every film

[01:04:05] His name is Doug Abel

[01:04:07] And he is the artistic director of the Rattlesey

[01:04:09] Theatre Company

[01:04:10] Oh, interesting

[01:04:11] I didn't know that at all

[01:04:12] He also casts Wes Anderson's movies

[01:04:13] But he doesn't do a ton of films

[01:04:15] He does a lot of theater stuff

[01:04:16] He was like one of the original producers

[01:04:18] Of Avenue Q and stuff

[01:04:19] And so I think

[01:04:22] Knight perhaps defers to him a lot

[01:04:23] Interesting

[01:04:24] That guy's got really fucking good taste

[01:04:26] Question answered

[01:04:28] And I think, you know

[01:04:29] Not all the directors he works with

[01:04:31] Hire as many theater actors

[01:04:33] But I think Knight might possibly

[01:04:34] You know, he gets his one or two big stars

[01:04:36] In the top parts

[01:04:37] And then he goes like

[01:04:38] There are really no big stars in the visit though

[01:04:40] No, Catherine Hawn's the biggest star

[01:04:41] Right

[01:04:42] And she gets in Catherine Hawn

[01:04:44] Yeah

[01:04:45] And he's paying these people out of pockets too

[01:04:46] Yeah

[01:04:47] Good for her

[01:04:48] Good for her

[01:04:49] What a great actor

[01:04:50] Hawn

[01:04:51] Hawn

[01:04:52] That was a Wrath of Con reference for you guys

[01:04:55] David waved his fist in the air

[01:04:56] It worked visually

[01:04:57] Anyway, so

[01:04:59] This girl shows up

[01:05:00] And I just

[01:05:02] I mean the scene itself is fine

[01:05:03] I don't know if you guys have any

[01:05:05] Impided on the scene

[01:05:06] But the reveal of what happens to her

[01:05:07] Like got me

[01:05:08] So good

[01:05:09] That's great

[01:05:10] And it's like

[01:05:11] It's like the best use of found footage

[01:05:13] Right where like we clearly see

[01:05:15] Her body hanging from a tree

[01:05:16] By the way, the third movie in which someone's hanging

[01:05:18] Fourth

[01:05:19] Fourth, what's the

[01:05:20] What am I thinking about?

[01:05:21] Well, sixth sense

[01:05:22] He sees the ghost hanging

[01:05:23] I know

[01:05:24] Happening he sees

[01:05:25] People from the tree

[01:05:26] Right

[01:05:27] And after Earth there's a moment where

[01:05:28] Catai is walking by

[01:05:29] And he sees one of the other

[01:05:31] Rangers hanging from the tree

[01:05:33] One of the animals

[01:05:34] You're totally right

[01:05:35] You're totally right

[01:05:36] He's done now

[01:05:37] He loves that visual jolt

[01:05:38] Yeah

[01:05:39] Of someone hanging

[01:05:40] Of someone being

[01:05:41] Munch the hanging munchkin

[01:05:42] The Wizard of Oz

[01:05:43] That's not a real thing

[01:05:44] Creepypasta

[01:05:45] That is the original Creepypasta

[01:05:47] It's a crane

[01:05:48] It's a shadow of a crane

[01:05:49] Is that what it is?

[01:05:50] Yeah, I don't know

[01:05:51] No, it's like it's just a

[01:05:52] Just a fucking

[01:05:53] Yeah, it's a crane

[01:05:54] It's a shadow of equipment

[01:05:55] No, no, it's like an actual

[01:05:56] A crane, like a bird

[01:05:57] But the ghost

[01:05:58] Oh really?

[01:05:59] I'm pretty sure

[01:06:00] If you look it up

[01:06:01] It'll say that it's a

[01:06:02] A natural bird

[01:06:03] But the ghost in Three Men and a Baby

[01:06:05] Is real

[01:06:06] Or Three Men and a Little Lady

[01:06:07] Which one, whichever one it is

[01:06:08] You mean the cardboard cut out

[01:06:09] Of Goodemur?

[01:06:10] Yeah

[01:06:11] Or is it Ted Danson?

[01:06:12] I don't remember which one it was

[01:06:13] It's of

[01:06:14] It's of Danson

[01:06:15] Because there was an abandoned plot line

[01:06:16] Where Danson was in a commercial

[01:06:18] Where they gave him a cardboard cut out

[01:06:20] And they cut out the scene where

[01:06:22] They established the cardboard cut out

[01:06:23] And they're like, that thing's creepy

[01:06:24] Just hide it there

[01:06:25] They literally had a scene in the movie

[01:06:27] That explained the thing

[01:06:28] And then cut it out

[01:06:29] And that was the only other

[01:06:30] Shot where the remnant existed

[01:06:32] I didn't know they took the

[01:06:34] Hanging Munchkin out of Wizard of Oz

[01:06:36] Like in like a DVD release

[01:06:37] They erased it

[01:06:38] Wait, what does it say it is?

[01:06:39] I thought it was something about

[01:06:40] Like a bird

[01:06:42] Yeah, I gotta look it up

[01:06:43] Snopes will tell me

[01:06:44] It is also on the creepypasta

[01:06:46] Great

[01:06:48] Is it weird that every time

[01:06:50] I hear creepypasta I get hungry?

[01:06:52] Is it weird?

[01:06:53] Yes, you're correct

[01:06:54] It's a bird

[01:06:55] Maybe a peacock

[01:06:56] Like the birds were wandering around

[01:06:57] Yeah

[01:06:58] Is it weird that I watched

[01:06:59] The new PB movie

[01:07:00] And thought about Slender Man

[01:07:01] The whole time?

[01:07:02] No

[01:07:03] Interesting

[01:07:04] Very interesting

[01:07:07] I'm gonna go down a creepypasta

[01:07:09] Wiki hole tonight

[01:07:10] I just know it

[01:07:12] The visit was a 2015

[01:07:14] Movie directed by him

[01:07:16] What day did it come out?

[01:07:17] September 11th, 2015

[01:07:19] Oh fuck, I forgot

[01:07:20] Oh boy, are you enjoying this Ben?

[01:07:23] I've been tuning out

[01:07:24] I'm sorry guys

[01:07:26] I just feel like Ben's made

[01:07:27] 9-11 jokes in the past

[01:07:29] Yeah, I have

[01:07:30] That's true

[01:07:31] I do, but I feel like

[01:07:32] You guys are really hitting it

[01:07:33] Enough where I don't need to

[01:07:34] I'm sorry, Ben

[01:07:35] I'm sorry

[01:07:36] Alright, okay

[01:07:37] Wait, who is that?

[01:07:38] Oh boy, here we go

[01:07:39] Is that producer Ben?

[01:07:41] Yeah, hey

[01:07:42] I've been here the whole time

[01:07:43] I'm just working on some other stuff

[01:07:46] Here guys

[01:07:47] But it's been great so far

[01:07:48] Producer Ben?

[01:07:49] Yeah, hey

[01:07:50] AK the Benducer?

[01:07:51] Mm-hmm

[01:07:52] K the poet laureate?

[01:07:53] Some call me that

[01:07:54] Some call you the haze, right?

[01:07:55] That's true

[01:07:56] Mr. Positive?

[01:07:57] I mean, yeah, I can be

[01:07:58] A positive guy

[01:07:59] Birthday Benny?

[01:08:00] Not till June

[01:08:01] The tiebreaker?

[01:08:02] If there's something

[01:08:03] I need to settle, I will

[01:08:04] Producer Ben Kenobi?

[01:08:05] Right, that's the

[01:08:06] Star Wars reference

[01:08:07] Kylo Ben?

[01:08:08] Yeah, that's the more recent

[01:08:09] Star Wars reference

[01:08:10] The peeper?

[01:08:11] I do like to watch

[01:08:13] People do not call you

[01:08:15] Professor Crespi

[01:08:16] If they do, if they see me on the street

[01:08:18] I might get aggressive

[01:08:19] But if they see you on the street

[01:08:21] If they see you in the sheets

[01:08:22] They should call you the fuck master

[01:08:24] If they see you on the street

[01:08:26] In the sheets, what does that mean?

[01:08:28] No, I was, I fucked up

[01:08:29] If they see you

[01:08:30] You're trying to give them

[01:08:31] A new catch

[01:08:32] If they see you in the sheets

[01:08:33] They should call you the fuck master

[01:08:34] But if they see you on the street

[01:08:35] They should greet you

[01:08:36] With a hearty hello fennel

[01:08:38] Great, that's the end of that

[01:08:39] The visit

[01:08:40] 2015

[01:08:42] September 11th

[01:08:43] M Night Shyamalan moving

[01:08:44] Oh, M Night Directors

[01:08:45] You forgot?

[01:08:46] I forgot that M Night Directors

[01:08:47] So this girl shows up

[01:08:49] Oh my god, guys

[01:08:51] Come on, we're an hour in

[01:08:52] Please

[01:08:53] Let's get somewhere with us

[01:08:55] She shows up at the door

[01:08:57] I don't remember what she wants

[01:08:59] She's made them a bowl of creepy pasta

[01:09:00] She's made them creepy pasta

[01:09:01] She's made them creepy pasta

[01:09:02] She's made them creepy pasta

[01:09:03] She's made them creepy pasta

[01:09:04] She's made them creepy pasta

[01:09:05] She's made a creepy pasta casserole?

[01:09:07] She's an addict

[01:09:09] Right

[01:09:10] She's a recovering addict

[01:09:11] And they counseled her

[01:09:12] Yes

[01:09:13] And she wants to thank them

[01:09:14] But they're not home

[01:09:16] Right

[01:09:17] I guess

[01:09:18] Conveniently enough, they are on a walk

[01:09:19] Yeah, like it's like the one time

[01:09:20] They leave the house

[01:09:21] No, it's also when the guy stops by

[01:09:23] It's like every time someone comes by

[01:09:25] Who would be able to recognize them

[01:09:26] As not being them

[01:09:27] Right

[01:09:28] They are on a walk

[01:09:29] Well-timed walks

[01:09:30] But then the dad, I guess, does

[01:09:32] Talk to her

[01:09:33] Or do we not see that

[01:09:34] Ever had the grandpa talk to her at all?

[01:09:36] No

[01:09:37] No, they do

[01:09:38] And she looks tens

[01:09:39] And she's clearly saying like

[01:09:40] Where are they

[01:09:41] Yeah, right

[01:09:42] Who are you?

[01:09:43] Right, yeah

[01:09:44] And then of course

[01:09:45] They're like follow me this way

[01:09:47] And she's like okay

[01:09:48] And then next time we see her

[01:09:49] She's dead

[01:09:50] Just for a second out the window

[01:09:51] It's such a great shot

[01:09:52] It's a great shot

[01:09:53] It's a great shot

[01:09:54] It's when shit is about to hit the

[01:09:57] It's when the diaper is about to hit them

[01:09:59] Right, they know that the grandparents

[01:10:01] Are not really the grandparents

[01:10:02] And they're trying to escape

[01:10:03] Yeah, it's before they

[01:10:04] I believe it's before they found the bodies

[01:10:06] But it's when

[01:10:07] You know at a certain point in this movie basically

[01:10:09] They're starting to get really weirded out

[01:10:10] They show them to the mom

[01:10:13] Right

[01:10:14] And she's like that's not my grandparents

[01:10:15] What's the timeline?

[01:10:16] Because she's like

[01:10:17] I'm gonna call the police and drive over there

[01:10:19] Which is gonna be a long drive

[01:10:20] We're told

[01:10:21] Yeah

[01:10:22] She doesn't get there

[01:10:23] And the police get there when she gets there

[01:10:24] Right

[01:10:25] So like there was no other police station

[01:10:26] She could have called

[01:10:27] That would have been able to get to them faster

[01:10:29] Sorry, I'm just saying

[01:10:30] The closest police precinct was also

[01:10:32] She calls up

[01:10:33] There were cops on the cruise ship with her

[01:10:36] So I think she just was like

[01:10:37] Can you jump in a car and try to get to be in the day?

[01:10:39] No, she calls like the local police station

[01:10:40] They don't answer

[01:10:41] Yeah, you hear them basically be like

[01:10:42] Please call again

[01:10:43] Right

[01:10:44] And you can probably find another near

[01:10:46] Like real city

[01:10:47] And they can send people over

[01:10:48] Because it's dark out by the time

[01:10:50] It's like nighttime

[01:10:51] Fully

[01:10:52] So I assume this hour has passed

[01:10:53] This is the police precinct

[01:10:55] We can't get to the phone right now

[01:10:56] Because we're too busy

[01:10:57] Being folksy

[01:10:58] I just imagine Barney Fife coming

[01:11:00] And you know

[01:11:01] Solving the problem

[01:11:03] We forgot the pancake batter there

[01:11:05] Biscuit, she makes biscuits

[01:11:07] She makes biscuits and gets it all over the webcam

[01:11:10] So perfectly placed though

[01:11:11] Yeah

[01:11:12] So sorry

[01:11:13] Do we think that she did that on purpose?

[01:11:14] I don't know

[01:11:15] It's actually

[01:11:16] It's a weird sort of thing where all these coincidences

[01:11:18] Line up or are they all supposed to

[01:11:20] Or yeah, I don't know

[01:11:21] I don't see because I like

[01:11:22] I don't know how she would have

[01:11:23] Thought to do that

[01:11:24] You know

[01:11:25] Right

[01:11:26] So it seems weird

[01:11:27] But it's also so ridiculous that she would have spilled it

[01:11:29] On the camera only

[01:11:30] It's like not on the keyboard

[01:11:31] It's not like

[01:11:32] And it stays there for the rest of the movie

[01:11:34] There's just a smooch of batter

[01:11:35] Until she's able to you know

[01:11:37] But see, all those coincidences for me

[01:11:39] Are totally forgiven because

[01:11:40] The tone of the film

[01:11:41] It's such like a

[01:11:42] I agree

[01:11:43] You know

[01:11:45] It is so shamelessly just trying

[01:11:47] To like entertain

[01:11:48] Like it's like a showman movie

[01:11:49] Yeah, no

[01:11:50] I don't think it ruins the movie

[01:11:51] But I do think that like

[01:11:52] With found footage

[01:11:53] Because you have these moments that are like

[01:11:55] A little more realistic that you wouldn't see

[01:11:57] In a normal movie

[01:11:58] The banal sort of stuff

[01:11:59] Right, so it can be harder sometimes

[01:12:01] To deal with like the

[01:12:02] Those plot holes because

[01:12:03] You kind of are in this world where like

[01:12:04] You know

[01:12:05] And the fact that it's not supernatural

[01:12:06] It's just like crazy people

[01:12:07] So like I you know

[01:12:08] I think about things like

[01:12:09] Why are they always out of the house

[01:12:10] When someone stops by

[01:12:11] I agree

[01:12:12] When they're never out of the house otherwise

[01:12:13] Yeah, yeah

[01:12:14] The found footage thing works against it

[01:12:16] But he gains some latitude from it

[01:12:18] Being like a Jerry Seinfeld

[01:12:20] Dreamworks animation feature

[01:12:23] God damn it

[01:12:26] That's all I have to say about that

[01:12:27] Hashtag the two friends

[01:12:28] Um, no

[01:12:29] I'm sorry

[01:12:30] I was just reading a quote from Shyamalan

[01:12:32] That I wanted to bring up

[01:12:33] Because we were just talking about this

[01:12:34] Where he said he cut the film

[01:12:36] The first time he cut the film

[01:12:37] It felt like an art house movie

[01:12:39] Rather than a horror film

[01:12:40] And the second time he cut it

[01:12:41] It just felt like a comedy

[01:12:43] Now I don't know what he's talking about

[01:12:45] Because I don't know how this could ever look

[01:12:46] Like an art house movie

[01:12:47] But I could see how it could feel

[01:12:48] Like play a little more

[01:12:49] I thought it was like a straight comedy

[01:12:50] I thought it was a dark comedy

[01:12:51] I think it was like a very dark comedy

[01:12:53] I think it ends up

[01:12:54] Yeah, it's like a horror film

[01:12:56] With a lot of comic notes

[01:12:57] The Yahtzee moment is hilarious

[01:12:58] Yahtzee moment is great

[01:12:59] Milton Bradley, Hasbro fight

[01:13:01] It's like my favorite thing

[01:13:02] It's great because it's like

[01:13:04] The sisters just like

[01:13:05] Why are you fighting this at this point?

[01:13:07] These are two escape mental patients

[01:13:09] And the brothers like to shut up

[01:13:11] Forget it

[01:13:12] It used to be Parker Brothers

[01:13:14] Or Milton Bradley

[01:13:15] But then Hasbro bought

[01:13:16] And he said, who fucking cares

[01:13:18] And I'm like, I do

[01:13:19] That was me watching it

[01:13:20] I was like, I know what toy companies

[01:13:22] I'm the Toy Master

[01:13:23] That's my new character

[01:13:24] I'm working on

[01:13:25] I hate it

[01:13:26] You think he's grading?

[01:13:27] Really?

[01:13:28] I was trying to make him

[01:13:29] Orally pleasing

[01:13:30] I wanted to say

[01:13:31] I'm the Toy Master

[01:13:32] Don't say orally pleasing

[01:13:33] No, you are

[01:13:34] No, I don't understand

[01:13:35] Orally pleasing

[01:13:36] What was I going to fucking say?

[01:13:37] Oh no

[01:13:38] This is the kind of movie

[01:13:39] Everyone laughs through, right?

[01:13:40] Yes

[01:13:41] Like when you're in the theater

[01:13:42] Yeah, when you're in it

[01:13:43] You didn't see the theater

[01:13:44] No

[01:13:45] So I saw it in theaters

[01:13:46] I saw it at the Vista

[01:13:47] And those feelas

[01:13:48] Congratulations

[01:13:49] Congratulations

[01:13:50] Have you been to the Vista?

[01:13:51] No, I don't think so

[01:13:52] It's like an old style movie theater

[01:13:54] Oh, that's awesome

[01:13:55] Yeah, so it's a big movie theater

[01:13:57] It's a single theater

[01:13:58] And the guy who owns it

[01:14:00] Is like, stands outside

[01:14:01] Dressed up as characters from the movies

[01:14:03] That are there

[01:14:04] Oh, I know which guy we're talking about

[01:14:05] I've never been there though

[01:14:06] It's like they have a lot of

[01:14:07] Like any sort of indie

[01:14:09] Like, UCB comedy thing

[01:14:12] They premiere everything there

[01:14:13] Yeah

[01:14:14] Anyway, I saw it there

[01:14:15] So it's always a good audience

[01:14:16] And I'm like, I'm like

[01:14:17] I'm like, I'm like, I'm like

[01:14:18] Anyway, I saw it there

[01:14:19] So it's like always a good audience

[01:14:21] And yeah, people were laughing a lot

[01:14:23] Right

[01:14:24] And then there was a loud yell

[01:14:25] At the poo in the face scene

[01:14:27] Indeed

[01:14:28] And

[01:14:29] We're getting to it guys, don't worry

[01:14:30] I feel like that could be

[01:14:31] Another podcast entirely

[01:14:32] Yeah, poo in the face

[01:14:33] Poo in the face

[01:14:34] Yeah, no, I mean

[01:14:36] It was definitely

[01:14:37] I thought of it, yeah

[01:14:38] It's a comedy in a lot of ways

[01:14:39] It's like a Raleigh King Har movie

[01:14:40] That makes you laugh

[01:14:41] It's a good combination

[01:14:42] Like nervous and comfortable

[01:14:43] Laugher

[01:14:44] Like conscious jokes

[01:14:45] Things that go so far

[01:14:46] Beyond the pale

[01:14:47] Like you have no choice but to laugh

[01:14:48] But getting in the oven stuff is like so ridiculous

[01:14:50] Right

[01:14:51] Like that she would ever, you know

[01:14:52] Just really get in there

[01:14:53] Right

[01:14:54] We were talking about how it was

[01:14:55] Fucking earlier movies were funny

[01:14:56] Yeah, we were

[01:14:57] We were just talking about it

[01:14:58] But for you it would have been a week ago

[01:15:00] Sure

[01:15:01] But and then

[01:15:03] They got so dour

[01:15:04] And then this movie

[01:15:05] Like brings back the laughter

[01:15:06] He's getting it back

[01:15:07] And you know, like

[01:15:08] Maybe not every joke lands

[01:15:09] And maybe we could have done

[01:15:10] With less child rapping

[01:15:11] Agree

[01:15:12] But like

[01:15:13] No

[01:15:14] That's my number one note

[01:15:15] First pass

[01:15:16] My favorite internet comment of all time

[01:15:18] This is a total tangent

[01:15:19] Is when someone

[01:15:20] There was an article

[01:15:21] About Roman Polanski

[01:15:23] And someone in the comments said like

[01:15:25] I can't believe that anyone would support this child rapper

[01:15:28] And it was like

[01:15:30] It's so genuine

[01:15:32] It was so obviously intended as genuine

[01:15:34] And it was like the idea of Roman Polanski

[01:15:36] It's a terrible joke obviously

[01:15:38] That's like when you're

[01:15:39] When you watch one of those

[01:15:40] Maddie B videos on YouTube

[01:15:41] And the comment says like

[01:15:42] I hate this child rapist

[01:15:44] Oh my god

[01:15:45] Wait, rapper would have been a better punchline for that

[01:15:47] Fuck, scratch it

[01:15:48] No, it was still on

[01:15:49] Maddie B

[01:15:51] You guys know Maddie B?

[01:15:52] Yeah, okay great

[01:15:53] My name's Roman P

[01:15:54] And I'm here to say

[01:15:56] I'm having a tragic life today

[01:16:00] He's doing fine

[01:16:01] That's my impression of little Roman P

[01:16:03] But as a little boy

[01:16:04] I'm saying he would be tragic

[01:16:05] I was trying to set it at the time

[01:16:06] Even then he raped like a teenage girl

[01:16:08] In a hot tub

[01:16:09] I think he's doing okay

[01:16:10] Yeah but I'm talking before that

[01:16:11] Right

[01:16:12] I get it

[01:16:13] There's a holocaust survived

[01:16:14] I think I was understanding it by saying

[01:16:16] I'm having a tragic life today

[01:16:19] I think I got him off pretty easy

[01:16:21] Let's not get into holocaust jokes too

[01:16:23] Jesus, I already feel bad

[01:16:24] Okay, alright

[01:16:25] Good podcast

[01:16:26] Oh yeah, thank you

[01:16:27] Hey guys, the visit

[01:16:29] 2015

[01:16:30] September 11th

[01:16:32] We remembered

[01:16:33] Okay

[01:16:34] What else happened?

[01:16:36] Oh, I just accidentally clicked on the Wikipedia entry

[01:16:38] For art film by the way

[01:16:40] Oh what does this say?

[01:16:41] Give me the opening sentence

[01:16:42] An art film is typically a serious independent film

[01:16:44] Aimed at a niche market rather than a mass market audience

[01:16:47] Okay

[01:16:48] Anyway

[01:16:49] So like paranormal activity

[01:16:50] Yeah

[01:16:51] It's not as an art film

[01:16:52] Yeah

[01:16:53] Well like two because it's a prequel

[01:16:54] So they figure it out

[01:16:56] Yeah

[01:16:57] No, two years is like at the same time

[01:16:59] Oh it's like a parallel

[01:17:00] It's a parallel

[01:17:01] Yeah that's what's sort of weird about it

[01:17:02] Ugh

[01:17:03] Anyway

[01:17:04] The visit, what happens is

[01:17:06] They eventually find out that it's not there

[01:17:07] Grandparents

[01:17:08] Right

[01:17:09] And I really get seen because I think

[01:17:10] Katharine Hahn plays it so well

[01:17:11] Because she's like

[01:17:12] She has to like keep it calm and keep it together

[01:17:14] Right, she's still trying to be mom

[01:17:15] But she's also obviously like

[01:17:17] Okay I'll just call

[01:17:18] I'm gonna make a phone call to the police

[01:17:20] Right now

[01:17:21] You know but she's trying

[01:17:22] Yeah she's trying to show alarm her kids

[01:17:24] She gets in a cycle

[01:17:25] She can't stop saying Becca Tyler

[01:17:26] She's like Becca Tyler

[01:17:27] Becca Tyler

[01:17:28] Becca

[01:17:29] Katharine Hahn is wonderful in this movie

[01:17:31] Hahn

[01:17:32] Hahn

[01:17:33] And so then they go to the basement

[01:17:35] Right

[01:17:36] When did they go to the basement?

[01:17:37] Yeah, this is after they go to the basement then

[01:17:38] She thinks the grandparents are being held down there

[01:17:41] Well and she goes to the basement

[01:17:42] Right

[01:17:43] He's playing Yatzi

[01:17:44] He's playing Yatzi

[01:17:45] Right, right, right

[01:17:46] They split up at this point

[01:17:47] Right, I forgot

[01:17:48] And she's in the basement

[01:17:49] Everyone loves a board game

[01:17:51] Well we should

[01:17:52] At least talk about the fact that

[01:17:53] Even after she finds us out

[01:17:55] When did she

[01:17:56] Try to get that final interview?

[01:17:58] That's before

[01:17:59] Before

[01:18:00] That's the one right before

[01:18:01] She still finds the elixir there

[01:18:03] Then she says to mom

[01:18:04] Like we're ready to go home

[01:18:05] She's still scared though

[01:18:06] Yeah

[01:18:07] But she has to get the forgiven

[01:18:08] Like

[01:18:09] Until she gets the apology from the grandma

[01:18:11] Which she calls the elixir

[01:18:12] So this is an interview where the grandma

[01:18:13] Talks about creatures in the water

[01:18:14] Whenever she asks

[01:18:15] Whenever she asks the grandma

[01:18:16] About the past

[01:18:17] She starts like shaking and screaming

[01:18:19] Totally normal behavior

[01:18:20] And so that's why she hasn't gotten

[01:18:22] This elixir

[01:18:23] I think that scene is really well written

[01:18:25] I think the scenes are well done

[01:18:26] Yeah

[01:18:27] But that scene where she like

[01:18:28] The daughter has to frame it to her as a story

[01:18:30] And be like what character

[01:18:31] It already relates to

[01:18:32] I think it's a good piece of screenwriting

[01:18:34] Okay, so

[01:18:35] And Deanna done it gets really

[01:18:36] Terrific

[01:18:37] Are you fucking good?

[01:18:38] Why do you think

[01:18:39] Aside from the fact that it's convenient to the plot

[01:18:41] That the fake grandparents are like

[01:18:43] Able to be so normal

[01:18:45] At the start and then get increasingly crazy

[01:18:48] Yeah

[01:18:49] You think it's just a plot contrivance?

[01:18:51] I do also think that whatever their psychosis is

[01:18:54] And it's not like 100% defined

[01:18:56] Right

[01:18:57] Is like

[01:18:58] Is breaking down

[01:18:59] Like they've just accomplished this

[01:19:01] Well she calls them schizo-frontics

[01:19:02] I mean they're delusional

[01:19:03] They're schizo-frontics

[01:19:04] But like

[01:19:05] However it works exactly

[01:19:06] If they're trying to act out some sort of normal behavior

[01:19:08] With these kids

[01:19:09] Like they want to play grandparent or something

[01:19:11] There's something really strange about the fact that they were

[01:19:12] They can't hold it together

[01:19:13] They're able to like work together

[01:19:14] Sure

[01:19:15] Leave the hospital together

[01:19:16] Escape together

[01:19:17] Murder to murder people

[01:19:18] Like it isn't quite work and that's fine

[01:19:20] But I guess like I was wondering if it's like

[01:19:22] Actually like they really wanted to have this normal

[01:19:24] Week

[01:19:25] And then it's toward the end

[01:19:26] When they're going to be leaving

[01:19:27] That they know they're going to have to kill them

[01:19:28] Or is it like less conscious than that

[01:19:29] That's a pretty good read

[01:19:30] Well I like that read

[01:19:31] Yeah, that's a good read

[01:19:32] That they know that this can't hold

[01:19:34] And like so that's making them crazy

[01:19:36] Cause he says in the basement

[01:19:37] He's like you know I wanted to give her a good

[01:19:38] I told her it would be a good week

[01:19:39] Because she like lost her kids when she murdered them

[01:19:41] Which is a real bummer week for her

[01:19:43] It's a tough break

[01:19:44] It was a real Polanski of a situation

[01:19:46] But they do like

[01:19:47] They go so crazy at the end

[01:19:49] That you're kind of like how are they ever normal

[01:19:52] Good question

[01:19:53] Yeah I mean I like your read

[01:19:55] That it's the fact that it's coming to an end

[01:19:57] Is making them lose it

[01:19:58] My first read was the sort of in line with David

[01:20:00] Where it's like okay they were in a hospital

[01:20:02] They're probably being medicated, treated

[01:20:03] Oh I like that too

[01:20:04] And they're sort of coming out of there

[01:20:05] Yeah that's good

[01:20:06] The film spans a week

[01:20:07] Right

[01:20:08] We're to presume that they only took over

[01:20:10] A day or two before the kids get there

[01:20:12] Right

[01:20:13] Because Katherine and Hannah had been communicating

[01:20:15] With the grandparents

[01:20:16] Sure

[01:20:17] Like when the plans were made

[01:20:18] It was the original grandparents

[01:20:20] Because they say in the basement

[01:20:22] Your grandparents kept on coming by

[01:20:24] And talking about what great kids you were

[01:20:25] How excited they were to meet you

[01:20:27] Right that's of course the attachment they have

[01:20:29] Right

[01:20:30] So they knew

[01:20:31] We presume that the nutsoes came in

[01:20:33] Like the day or two before

[01:20:34] Let's not call them nutso

[01:20:35] Okay

[01:20:36] The cuckoo shoes

[01:20:37] That's that's that's that's that yeah okay

[01:20:39] That's fine

[01:20:40] Um, I mean Nana and Pop Pop

[01:20:42] They came in, fake Nana

[01:20:44] Fana and Pop Pop

[01:20:45] Came through like a day or two before

[01:20:48] The film spans like a week I believe right

[01:20:50] So by day seven it's like

[01:20:52] A they know it's coming to an end

[01:20:54] B they're incredibly stressed out about the fact

[01:20:56] That they might get caught

[01:20:57] C they haven't been medicated in a while

[01:20:59] D they're not undergoing treatment

[01:21:01] I think the medication thing is actually like a really good

[01:21:03] Uh, I'm I enjoy that as like a theory

[01:21:06] Because it makes total sense

[01:21:07] That medication like psychiatric medication

[01:21:09] Lingers in your body

[01:21:10] Yes

[01:21:11] For several days

[01:21:12] It's not weeks

[01:21:13] Yeah yeah yeah

[01:21:14] And then I think and then I think the stress of this

[01:21:16] Jurisdiction

[01:21:17] And then I think the fact the plot calls for it

[01:21:18] The plot calls for it

[01:21:19] The plot does call for it

[01:21:20] Wait it does

[01:21:21] And also let's they also do commit a third murder

[01:21:23] Right

[01:21:24] The dad does the grandpa does at least

[01:21:26] And maybe that that's not helping anyone

[01:21:28] You know

[01:21:29] No

[01:21:30] We don't know who killed her

[01:21:31] That's true

[01:21:32] That's true maybe someone is still at large

[01:21:34] Well I meant more that you know

[01:21:36] Nana could have done it

[01:21:37] Oh I suppose

[01:21:38] Sure right sorry

[01:21:39] It's just cause she's talking to the dad

[01:21:41] Nana's fast as we've noticed

[01:21:42] I mean so there are these two simultaneous showdowns

[01:21:46] Speaking of Nana

[01:21:47] Yeah

[01:21:48] Uh there's the

[01:21:49] Well first I guess they're in the garage

[01:21:50] And they play this tense game of Yahtzee

[01:21:52] Yeah which is not a board game

[01:21:54] Let's just call it as I

[01:21:56] That's not a board game

[01:21:58] Grandpa it's a game

[01:21:59] It's like a dice game

[01:22:00] Where's the board

[01:22:01] I mean look I'm fine

[01:22:02] It's like a dice and a shaker

[01:22:04] Uh but uh you know

[01:22:06] Does it know what board game

[01:22:07] No it's a card game

[01:22:09] So Yahtzee's a dice game

[01:22:11] Well okay

[01:22:12] There ya go

[01:22:13] I'm just saying we're parsing over

[01:22:15] And who made it

[01:22:16] Well who made it or who now manufactures and distributes it

[01:22:19] Okay so the point is

[01:22:21] The point is that

[01:22:22] This plot

[01:22:23] Yeah Popup locks

[01:22:27] Jesus

[01:22:28] Becca

[01:22:29] In the bedroom

[01:22:31] And her grandma's in there

[01:22:33] And she basically tries to eat her

[01:22:35] Right

[01:22:36] Yeah

[01:22:37] And whereas

[01:22:39] Then he goes downstairs

[01:22:40] And he puts a diaper in his fake grants on space

[01:22:43] Yeah a lot of fake poop

[01:22:45] On that young boys face

[01:22:47] I mean he loses his mind at him too

[01:22:49] You know what's funny is

[01:22:51] Yes but they like

[01:22:53] They already lost their mind

[01:22:54] They totally like established the fact that this kid has like a

[01:22:58] A germophobia problem

[01:22:59] Right

[01:23:00] Related to the dad for no good reason

[01:23:02] Or they explain it

[01:23:03] He's trying to get control of the situation

[01:23:05] Which is like

[01:23:06] I think you can pay like a TV therapist to say that

[01:23:09] It's a doctor filled thing to say

[01:23:10] Yeah it's ridiculous

[01:23:11] Anyway

[01:23:12] But they set that up I think just so they can have the poop in the face scene

[01:23:16] That's what we call a shit justification

[01:23:18] Thank you Ben

[01:23:20] Don't you feel like that was just for that one moment?

[01:23:23] Yep I believe so

[01:23:24] Don't you think that anyone getting a diaper in the face would be as horrified?

[01:23:28] Yeah I don't think you need that

[01:23:29] I think that works in a nutshell

[01:23:31] Like out of context it's still like

[01:23:33] I don't want an old man's poopy diaper in my nose

[01:23:36] Do you know what I would have done if I was pop pop?

[01:23:38] He was pooping a lot

[01:23:39] You know how much poop is in the diaper?

[01:23:40] So much poop

[01:23:41] And a lot a lot a lot of diapers

[01:23:44] You know what I somehow missed

[01:23:45] When I saw him in the theater

[01:23:46] Maybe because people were like laughing and screaming and stuff

[01:23:49] Is the sound of him defecating during the Yahtzee game

[01:23:52] Wait really?

[01:23:53] Yes yes

[01:23:54] Do the Yahtzee game

[01:23:55] He poops

[01:23:56] Wow

[01:23:57] And then he goes I have to go

[01:23:58] Oh yes I missed it the first time

[01:24:00] And I was like oh I can definitely hear the poop coming out

[01:24:03] He poops

[01:24:04] There's a wet fart sound

[01:24:06] Yes there is

[01:24:07] You know what I would have done if I was pop pop?

[01:24:09] Increase the volume on that

[01:24:10] No question

[01:24:11] If I was pop pop

[01:24:13] Pop pop did ADR for the time

[01:24:14] Yeah pop pop did ADR

[01:24:15] There was a sound re-recording mid-serf

[01:24:17] Not the actor the character

[01:24:18] The real pop pop movie the film was based on

[01:24:20] Shama took a gamble

[01:24:21] He took a gamble and it worked

[01:24:23] He rolled the dice

[01:24:24] You could say he played Yahtzee

[01:24:26] People say he's crazy

[01:24:27] Crazy like a fox when it comes to that sound board

[01:24:33] Pop pop

[01:24:34] If I tore I pop pop

[01:24:36] In the basement

[01:24:37] Sure

[01:24:38] Facing down Thailand

[01:24:39] What did a tour so simple?

[01:24:40] What tour did a tour so simple

[01:24:42] I take two handfuls of duty from that diaper

[01:24:44] Or I would wrap the diaper around his head

[01:24:46] Jordy LeFord style or low bot style

[01:24:49] So like around

[01:24:50] Yeah I know we get you

[01:24:51] Right the front of the back

[01:24:52] Shove that poop in his ears

[01:24:54] And go hey this is what it feels like

[01:24:56] When you wrap in front of us

[01:24:58] That would be a little on the nose

[01:25:00] That would be a little on the nose

[01:25:01] It's so good though

[01:25:02] Thank you

[01:25:03] Like a low bot he's just got the diaper

[01:25:05] Around the back of his head

[01:25:06] When they reboot this film

[01:25:07] Yeah

[01:25:08] Actually when Gus Van Sant does his

[01:25:09] Remake

[01:25:10] Shopper shot remake

[01:25:11] He's got a major version of this movie

[01:25:12] He's got a linger on those bodies

[01:25:13] He could do a shop for shop remake

[01:25:15] Yeah

[01:25:16] When he would just change up the diaper thing

[01:25:18] Yeah

[01:25:19] You know how like Vince Vaughn

[01:25:20] Mastermates in Psycho

[01:25:21] Like that

[01:25:22] Right so just little tweaks

[01:25:23] So you know what happened

[01:25:24] In the Gus Van Sant version

[01:25:25] He'd low bot the poop around his ears

[01:25:27] He'd say this is what it feels like

[01:25:28] When you wrap

[01:25:29] And then the camera would slowly

[01:25:31] For two minutes pan down

[01:25:32] The poop dripping down his body

[01:25:34] And then there would be an intercut

[01:25:36] Of like a naked woman with a blindfold

[01:25:39] And then the shower sequence

[01:25:40] You have to show him showering

[01:25:41] The poop off

[01:25:42] You know whose movies I hate

[01:25:43] A lot of

[01:25:44] Walt Becker

[01:25:45] Yeah

[01:25:46] I was just

[01:25:47] Do you know what Gus Van Sant is saying?

[01:25:48] He just hasn't made a great movie in a while

[01:25:50] I think like

[01:25:51] I mean like

[01:25:52] I've got him like angry at more of his films

[01:25:54] Than I have at like other

[01:25:55] Interesting

[01:25:56] Like Psycho made me angry

[01:25:57] Yeah with Psycho Blows

[01:25:59] I'm a big Psycho fan

[01:26:00] Elephant

[01:26:01] That's a silly opinion

[01:26:02] Elephant made me angry

[01:26:03] I like Elephant a lot

[01:26:04] Elephant is horrible

[01:26:05] I like it

[01:26:06] Elephant is not a film that I have seen

[01:26:08] In 13 years

[01:26:10] However long it's been now

[01:26:11] So and I really worry about how I feel it

[01:26:13] I remember liking it when I was 17 years old

[01:26:16] Go on please

[01:26:17] I remember thinking of it

[01:26:18] It was like expletive garbage

[01:26:19] Like before school shootings

[01:26:21] Were like a daily thing

[01:26:22] And then I was like

[01:26:23] Oh look the killers are making out in the shower

[01:26:25] This is fucking terrible

[01:26:27] Elephant's a movie

[01:26:28] We could talk about it

[01:26:29] We could talk about Gus one day

[01:26:30] Has he ever done a movie without a shower scene?

[01:26:33] Milk

[01:26:34] Milk doesn't have any showering

[01:26:35] Does it definitely not have any showering?

[01:26:36] I don't think so

[01:26:37] It has bathing

[01:26:38] Yeah

[01:26:39] They're in a pool

[01:26:40] Everyone bathes

[01:26:41] You know

[01:26:42] Everyone paints

[01:26:43] Everyone poops

[01:26:44] Let's not make assumptions

[01:26:45] That is true

[01:26:46] Everyone does poop

[01:26:47] But uh wait

[01:26:48] Oh Psycho's great though

[01:26:49] Psycho's great

[01:26:50] We should do a psycho episode

[01:26:51] Let me talk about a blank check

[01:26:52] Whoever did the sound mixing on Vince Vaughn's

[01:26:53] Mastermation scene

[01:26:54] Did a great job

[01:26:55] Do you remember that?

[01:26:56] That's some fapping

[01:26:57] I think it was the same guy

[01:26:58] Who did the sound mixing on Benny Hill

[01:27:00] I was like

[01:27:01] Yeah it totally

[01:27:04] Dude psycho is so good

[01:27:07] You should see psycho again

[01:27:09] That may be

[01:27:10] Yeah

[01:27:11] It was just someone taking silly putty on a newspaper

[01:27:13] Really fast

[01:27:14] No no no no no no no no

[01:27:17] The slide whistle

[01:27:18] I liked that he was like a psycho

[01:27:22] I don't think that the weird

[01:27:23] Psychosexual attention is clear enough

[01:27:25] I'm gonna have him masturbate on the wall

[01:27:27] This guy's got a slam in his ham in this movie

[01:27:30] Alright

[01:27:31] That was good

[01:27:33] Okay

[01:27:34] The visit

[01:27:35] So this one came out

[01:27:36] What?

[01:27:37] September 11th 2015

[01:27:39] Okay so this showdown between

[01:27:42] The showdown between

[01:27:44] The grandma

[01:27:46] Nana

[01:27:47] And Becca

[01:27:48] Becca

[01:27:49] They don't show very much

[01:27:51] You talked about how it's not very violent

[01:27:53] And actually both showdowns

[01:27:54] Like you don't see really the aftermath of their

[01:27:57] But the kids do like murder the fuck out of them

[01:28:00] Tyler crushes

[01:28:01] Con tops head

[01:28:02] Tyler really loses it

[01:28:03] Which is fair

[01:28:04] The guy did put a diaper on his face

[01:28:05] But he smashes his head in a doorway

[01:28:07] She stabs her with a mirror shard

[01:28:10] We don't really see what she does

[01:28:11] But we assume that she's

[01:28:12] Like you see that she's stabbing her

[01:28:14] Also she's like under the bed at one point

[01:28:16] Nana and her hand reaches out

[01:28:18] It's pretty cool

[01:28:19] And she's giggling and it's great

[01:28:20] She's having a good time

[01:28:22] She's crazy in a fun way

[01:28:24] She's like having a blast being psychotic

[01:28:26] Hers is the better executed part

[01:28:29] I would say of the showdown

[01:28:31] I would say the grandpa part works less

[01:28:33] Also, okay I was confused both times watching this

[01:28:35] As to why Tyler was standing there

[01:28:37] Not moving

[01:28:38] I guess he's just freaked out

[01:28:40] But he's standing on something

[01:28:42] Isn't he like standing on something

[01:28:43] Or is he like just a apple box?

[01:28:45] Is he though?

[01:28:46] I feel like he was

[01:28:47] I don't know

[01:28:48] My memory like

[01:28:49] No you're right that he's standing there

[01:28:50] And it is a little

[01:28:51] It's very awkward

[01:28:52] And the thing is

[01:28:53] Like when he gets the poop on the face

[01:28:54] That to me explains why he's not moving

[01:28:56] Because he's like so freaked out

[01:28:57] Like he can't move

[01:28:58] He's still like freaking out about germs

[01:29:00] But before that