Unrest In The Galactic Senate - Attack Of The Podcast

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone just deleted their podcasts. I'm Griffin Newman. I'm David Sims. Welcome to Griffin and David presents

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Attack Of The Podcast. That's right. It's here episode 2. Yeah

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We took a week off and fans were furious they're livid, but I think it's gonna be worth the wait god David I

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Cannot explain how excited I was to watch a new Phantom Menace movie

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I know the second movie in the Phantom Menace saga. No, it's thrilling

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It was thrilling because there's infinite possibilities. Yeah now they're new characters and you could do so many things you could

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So many avenues to pursue so many worlds to explore so just to reiterate for anyone who happens to be jumping in this is their first episode

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Griffin David presents as a podcast an anthology podcast in which we tackle different pieces of media content

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That we find fascinating and the similar theme is that they are films

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Movies TV shows books what have you?

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, who knows in which

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone was given free reign to do exactly what they wanted coming off of a massive success given free reign to do what they wanted

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And what happens in those circumstances when the artist is left to their own devices right and we spent 10 episodes talking about

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: George Lucas's film the Phantom Menace Star Wars episode 1 the Phantom Mass

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We thought it was a one-and-done. Yeah, we thought it was the only film in this series

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We knew he had grand ambitions for a saga

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We thought they didn't work but old Georgie Porgy pulled a fast one on we dug it up that crazy son of a bitch did it

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: F2 he pulled it off

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense because episode 1 made about a billion dollars

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: That was the weird thing in our logic was we knew that episode 1 was at the time of its release the third highest grossing film of all

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Time and we just could not think of that sequel. Yeah, anyway, we've seen it. We totally forgot about it

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that logically makes any sense

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But here we are episode 2 we're cracking into it and of course we know I that's the last one

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we thought it was a one-and-done. We thought it was a Jupiter ascending if you will yeah, but it wasn't now

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We realize here. Yeah, now. It's like an amazing spider-man 2

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They got two films into what was supposed to be a much larger saga

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of cut off

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Resolved boy

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But now we have the second film and we get to look at where we thought it was going a lot of threads

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Not resolved in from this film. So first and foremost

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a sequel. Yeah, it is it's a honking sequel to one movie. Okay?

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's equal to the one thing we've established which is called the Phantom s and sequels have a bad reputation very popular

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. It's often box office. It's often, you know, you go too big

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, you know you you double down on everything you like before and that just ends up backfiring on you

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Give them more what they want until it gives you a tummy ache

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know exactly and dimension returns is often sort of the thing

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: But it is that thing how you just amp it up

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But there are those sequels those those rare sequels that eclipse the original and that's what everyone's shooting for everyone's going for it

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So of course we're gonna try to solve what this movie is about

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think we'll probably come up almost as empty as we did on Phantom s so the bigger question in this investigative research into this film is

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Is this a good sequel right does this this is succeed as a sequel to the Phantom?

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Is this a good sequel to the Phantom menace in terms of the Phantom s sets up and at this episode much like we started

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The Phantom podcast we're gonna talk about the opening. We're gonna go a little further in oh, yeah

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_01]: The first right we're gonna talk about the table setting. Yes, that's what we're gonna do

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah starts out with that opening crawl

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Exact same opening style which is so cool. I know it's such a good idea like here's the format

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 20th century Fox fanfare which is maybe my

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Second favorite studio fan, it's your favorite universal. Yeah, there you go

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And the spinning around the globe and also every universal logo in history is great

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how it changes they're always they're always classy. They've all aged. Well, what's the worst studio a

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Wyncing company. No, no, but of the big six of the big ones probably probably

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably Disney

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Really just because like doesn't work without the things

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't work without the things with half of the movies they release, you know

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like they they can only to show it in front of the cartoons. Oh, yeah

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's why for Marvel they have a whole new fanfare

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't even do the Disney thing in front of Marvel and Disney of course has bought the long dormant Star Wars franchise

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I know dormants in 2002 this one was released in 2002. Yes 13 years two movies that didn't work

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They spent a whole chunk of money and they're gonna reboot it. I wonder you're spoiling that it didn't work

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it did work

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Saying I mean enough to do I know I know all right look maybe Paramount's the worst

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that. I don't have any music. That's why I don't like I like the actual graphic

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Universal is the best marriage of the two Fox the graphics pretty solid the fanfare is brilliant

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so simple anyone can do that anyone can like summon that I think Warner Brothers has a great logo

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they always switch their music they sometimes do his time goes by we could talk about this yeah when this

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: When we're done with attack of the clones because it's the last

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Phantom Menace movie to cover the last film ever released is the last one. I think yeah, we're gonna do talking fanfare

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll just we'll just for an hour dissect studio logos

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't the last film release because they did release the judge after that. Yeah, right

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was a huge gap between that and you know studio audiences are really crying out

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing the judge did so poorly considering it was the first film released in 12 years

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you think the demand would be there

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But you know maybe their fault for not bringing back any of our favorite Phantom Menace characters

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know we're gonna have to talk about that by the way a lot of favorites

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't show up in the Phantom Menace and a couple do a couple do I'd say one of my one of my holy trinity

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: One of your big three shows up

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking that is I went to sleep last night and I got a new big two coming up in this film

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're gonna get to either of them today. They might be right after the cutoff

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to know who they are

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll look at to it. Oh, my favorite in the pump bump bump bump

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so yeah Lucas film Georgey porridge he's back and full effect long time ago Galaxy far far away

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Sighting dead silence

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're really

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Star Wars same title yeah episode to attack of the clone same scrolling text it bombed the first time but they're back

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And the fucking titles rad right off the bat attack of the clones now. It's a crazy title

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Of the clone attack is an exciting. Oh, that's true

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we hypothesized I thought the logical place to go for a sequel you bring back the elements that people like the best

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this clone Darth Maul

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: The one the one like

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the hit from the like everyone likes Darth the break out complain the only complaint about Darth Maul is that there's not enough

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Darth Maul exactly so like you got your chance you can redo it you can bring back Darth Maul clones

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently you're allowed to have clones so that's the answer. He's dead

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no no problem. We got a clone him. You know what would the worst thing have been would it have been an army of quaggons?

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the opposite way attack on quite a little

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: No, but he's not dead I suppose you could just call

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna bring back they would have kidnapped a lot of slaves

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, do you have this crawl ready? I'm gonna read the opening crawl to attack of the clones

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there is unrest in the galactic Senate

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, not exactly a barn burner, but unrest but but also galactic Senate

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. This isn't a great start, but I'll say this that one sentence so far conveys

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much everything the Phantom menace

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Crawl was getting across in like five paragraphs. Well if they can move on from this one sentence. It's encouraging

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_01]: the thing about the

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Phantom menace is it in big though its crawl begins the same way turmoil has engulfed the galactic right but then it gets into trade routes and

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So there is unrest in the galactic Senate several thousand solar systems have declared their intentions to leave the Republic now

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's action thousands. That's for so many not planets solar systems

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's crazy

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what that means also the fact that they're telling us this in the crawl means we're not gonna have to watch those fucking

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's already happened right right

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't if this is interesting the crawl does not say what like how much time has passed since the last one

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But we're getting the impression a lot of time is bad

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this separatist movement under the leadership of the mysterious count dooku. Okay, so there's okay

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Has made it difficult for the limited number of Jedi knights to maintain peace and order in the in the galaxy

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I like this so you're giving our characters a real struggle. Yeah, right there's spread finn

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, supply and demand the Republic. This is a civil war type moment like half the Republic might be leaving

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the Jedi's can't deal with it

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They've never had more to do and it sounds like they're never been less Jedi right. Yes limited number senator Amidala

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the former queen of Naboo Wow is

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Returning to the galactic Senate to vote on the critical issue of creating an army of the Republic in capital letters

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The Senate to assist the overwhelmed Jedi. I mean, I love this. I like it

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if love I was we were talking before and I was like, oh yeah

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's better but like there is a lot of talk of like Senate votes

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know better than trade routes 100%

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know if it's like Stockholm syndrome if I'm just so happy to see another face

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right new plot new plot. I got rock hard at that crawl. I did was it at

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Army of the Republic in capital letters every part of it. I just like that. We're getting so much information

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay turmoil great. We know that ooh all these different planets have left

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so civil war right the power, you know, there used to be this united universe and now it's all

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Split apart and it's moving on elements. We know from the Phantom Menace

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the Senate was all fucked up in the Phantom Menace, right the lorem was a weak Chancellor

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: The cracks were showing and now they have like, you know, they've come to form

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: One of my many problems with the Phantom Menace is that it was really taking baby steps towards something

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like he had a longer story

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to tell it and he was moving very slowly towards very slowly and not much happens

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No at all this crawl is immediately right sort of like it's a good point getting the action

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish it happened within Phantom Menace Phantom Menace is one planet is having one dispute

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah with the Trade Federation tack of the clones is the entire galaxy is about to be it is on the brink of war

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Right the Galactic Senate apparently I guess it seems like the Republic doesn't have an army

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which was never addressed in the pilot makes sense. There's no army

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just have the battle draw the Jedi's keep the peace but apart from that

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like maybe people have their own armies. I don't know but yes

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So this is then a Republic Army and if there's more you know sort of discord throughout the universe

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The Jedi's aren't gonna be able to you know

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There's only so much they can do yeah, they can maintain the peace when there's not that much to maintain

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when things are pretty civil right, but I like this too and we said oh those Jedi the Jedi Council

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They're so smug. They're so calm. They're so judgmental. I like this immediately taking them out of their comfort zone

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Right there stretch too thin

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I do like already it sounds like they're addressing a lot of our complaints

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: In the first movie the Jedi just walk in and they're like we're handling this right don't worry about it

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This will be right there. They're gonna negotiations were short no stayed like fucking like discourse about no tea services

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right. This is like there's no TC 14. Oh, is that yeah?

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I know well

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean we actually didn't talk about it

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But TC 14 almost certainly dies at the end of Phantom Ennis when her

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm amazed we never talked about that yeah for a very very good

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: She's dead probably yeah the same reason I know my grandma isn't dead because I never had to see her dead body all right

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They can tell me whatever they want, but I didn't look inside the box

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So I know she's still alive and just isn't calling me and hasn't for the last 15 years

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that but is that worse? She doesn't like you anymore. I I don't know it's she's

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: 98 years old she can do whatever she wants

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just my book

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: my my my grandma I

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything this film is setting up yeah, no okay, so we're saying it feels like the Star Wars

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Phantom Ennis nice nice pitch over the plate. Yeah, you did it civil war Jedi's are strained

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Army of the Republic is in the offing and Amidala is now a senator not a queen

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I would argue that for a sequel

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if that's what we're talking about the pieces are now exactly where I want to be on the board

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's set perfectly for the Phantom Ennis sequel. I want yeah, okay? I like that

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no lower status, but there's no mall clones

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we don't know that yet. That's sure from just an army of that

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, no, I know I'm saying from just the crawl we don't know right. We don't know where the clones are coming in yet so

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But I like everything the crawl tells me crawl dissipates into the into the stars and

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We see a spaceship another shiny ash another shiny is it the same one? No, it's not looks very similar. It's very similar

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it more slender? Yeah, yeah, it's not queen anymore

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a Naboo senator ship lands in Coruscant. Yeah, the planet that is a city

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's never forget the whole planet is one city and Amidala gets off

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and kaboom it gets blown up now

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This is I love this because yeah very action-packed like punch to the face it feels like

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He's immediately saying hey, this isn't your daddy's Phantom Menace sure you know right right right

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I know three years ago. You thought you know what a Star Wars movie is some of you had some grapes against it

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know huge hip and not well received as we talked about a lot and immediately it's like okay

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a scene we know no it's another shiny ship. Yeah, here's Amidala

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She's getting out and she's in her big headdress and everything and boom everything's blown up right terrible explosion

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the explosion doesn't look great. It doesn't look great

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about this but he's immediately setting the scene by going like look that that that's not the movie

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We're making it even though you would you must remember Phantom Menace

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The similar thing does happen a ship does get blown up, but it's a little less. Yeah, it's a little more telegraph

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is a little more exciting. I know immediately out the gates

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so you see Queen Amidala or center Amidala with all the

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Trappings blown up blown up of course what they're two guys standing yeah next to the ship

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: They have helmets on one guy is our new Panaca stand and yeah another fucking wet he's got one

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Like covered with some sort of patch his name is captain Typo. He looks like Majorian maybe yeah

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you mean like he's a from New Zealand or something right? He's a Pacific Islander. Yes, something like that

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Looks like a gosh darn Kiwi sure. He's got he's got a robot eye patch

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there's a another lay saying a slender

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Human saying next to him in a jumpsuit takes the helmet off. Who is it?

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: She's still doing those tricks with the fake outs and unfortunately she has lost one of her head meeting

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_01]: She says goodbye to her core day

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to look up Corda? I'm gonna look at my because I don't think she was one of the original no no

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They're all different. So I tell you yeah core day. Yeah here. She is played by

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't even say I don't know

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's not um

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't have much but she does get to

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're telling me that irritate who didn't say anything has this whole

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Wikipedia entry about how she was like the runner-up for the Queen and how she was trained in hand-to-hand combat

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, here's what I'm sorry. I'm sorry because I was gonna say if the character dies

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And they don't even take the time to put a page out there. That's very disrespectful. Yeah core day replace Sabay

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Corda also replaced

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Craig Ferguson on the late late

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: James Corda

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true very true

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Loving it played by a stunt actress for the explosion and by Veronica Segura for her death scene

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, anything about the character like I told you she replaced Sabay

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: when Amidala stepped down from the throne and

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Versailles was also killed in the blast along with five other Naboo guards

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So seven people die in this explosion and apparently none of them were worth a full will keep you to entry

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They died in the line of service and her body was left behind

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well I captain typhos at captain typhos assistants all those fucking degenerate scum pod racers have long entries about all the women

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They enslave. All right. All right. Let's go

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Dies well whatever and not only did she die she like apologizes. Yes, cuz I'm so sorry

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty fucked up. Anyway, God

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It almost feels like Wikipedia has more detailed entries for the Phantom innocence slightly less detailed entries for this movie because people sort of stop caring

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit. We'll see big drop-off in the box office serious drop off this movie did two hundred million dollars less than the first one

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know that often happens with sequels diminishing returns like you say but uh

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so but the stage is set. Yeah, and she's under attack. Yes. Yeah, and I believe we next go to

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Chancellor Palpatine's office. I'm sure you're right

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a hard cut to that and he's meeting there with with a collection of people

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're right. I'm a doll is there as well

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And he says to her like okay. There is a threat on your life, right? This is serious. Yeah, you're here to vote on the

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Army of the public like this is a crucial issue. You know, that's why they're trying being targeted

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: There's some outside forces. They want to have control of these separatists, you know, yeah, but he's like, you know terrible accident

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He says that he goes. Yeah, you know, this is awful

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: While I know it was awful for you still we should be happy that it wasn't worse. Yeah, you're so alive. You're still here

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We cannot

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Afford to be the sloppy again. Yeah, we gotta be on guard right and so she was like, what do you suggest we do?

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Right and of course

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What about some Jedi's?

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Sign a couple Jedi's to the case. She's like, what about those Jedi's you know?

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Does he even say that does he say like oh, yeah, he does say like, you know obi one, right?

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, and I think her response is like obi one like the guy who hung out at the ship

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That guy I think there's a point I I watched this movie three hours ago, and I'm already forgetting

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't remember anything about slippery fucking really is yeah

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You remember like a couple of the big set pieces but the yeah the plot like whole job

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've only seen it once though. I mean I need to see it 10 times like I saw phantom

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I literally watched it three hours. Yeah, but he says something like I forget she has some

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Reservation, yeah, she's like, but what about this and that and they're like, what about those jedi's you knew?

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right. Okay. So that's the thing that wins. That's the hook and then she's assigned

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Do we cut to obi one and Anakin in the elevator pretty much?

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I think there's an interesting point. I believe is introduced in that scene. Maybe I'm wrong. No it is introduced in that scene

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: senator

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Jar Jar Binks. Oh is that in that scene? Yes. Is it is it's not after maybe it is no it's in because he greets them at the

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Elevate right yeah senator

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Jar Jar

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Binks and I think the impression we're supposed to get is naboo has its human senator and it has a gungan senator

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: representing the diversity of races on that planet

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it's really Vatican City within Italy is like its own. Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah, you know so

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So like you say yeah, and and this isn't like he's not a state senator

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a galactic center. Let's repeat this with ingrate. He goes to that big room where all the world the

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Galaxy's races are gathered. Yeah, and he speaks with one voice for his people

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Jar Jar Binks in road season. He's all enrobed senator

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Jar Jar

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Binks that's right

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: He's

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You would think maybe because it's kind of established

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's been 10 years. I don't know if it's established within this scene

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Or very quickly now when we see Anakin nobie one now this one came out three years after the phantom menace

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So whereas, you know portman is kind of being aged up

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she's being I think she's actually about her actual age now. Maybe she's playing a little older than she actually is

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Was she playing younger in the first one?

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she was because I think in the first movie she was supposed to be like 14 and the actor's probably more like 16 17

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But now like portman's a tiny one and she looks like yeah, no it it it works

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't feel as old in this movie as I think her character's supposed to be

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I know what you mean. Here's a point. I want to get to right off the bat. Yeah

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's just because it's fucking in the news. It's topical. It's been on mind

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been really obsessively following this story. What story especially in this scene where she talks to palpatine

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But also throughout the entire film

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Is there not like a weird

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel dolazall thing going on

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean her first? I don't want to talk about Rachel dolazall this scene with palpatine

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: She's got this weird permed hair

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's very much dressed like an african dignitaries. It's just on your mind. I need to rewatch it

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember what you're talking about. She has like a weird hairstyle. I also feel like she's weirdly bronzed in this

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they just were completely out of ideas with the makeup and the hair

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They ran through all their good ideas, you know

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They had they were like Jesus a whole other movie of costumes and shit and now she's a senator

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So it can't be quite as ostentatious

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Her style is terrible in this movie. Yeah, it is it's bad

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The only time she looks good is at the end when she's in just the white jumpsuit like that she looks her best

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're out of your mind. No, no, it's not in well. Oh, maybe I'd have to rewatch it

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: If you mean generally inspired by

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to talk about rachel dolazall and here's another theory I had okay. I feel like the the

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna still talk about this for a second

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the the skin coloration of the actors is a little weird this movie really

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like the skin tones are unnatural in this film

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Part of this has to do with and we're gonna do an entire episode to this

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This was the first major studio film shot on video as opposed to film on digital video

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Not on vhs. Which would have been great. Which way?

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It was shot on on shot and delivered right like delivered and and as a hard drives to

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: On what was at the time the highest available resolution for video and now is a very low resolution

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And the film does not look incredibly good for that reason. It doesn't look great at times. It looks okay, but it doesn't look great

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I would argue the entire digital shots look great and anytime there's a human element. It looks a little that is that's fair

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, um, but I think a lighting a digital

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Video was a new thing to them saying like the makeup makeup

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the makeup is off and I think the other element is episode one shot in

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: UK

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, well this one's shot in the uk too. I believe this one was shot in australia

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but really i'm gonna look that you can correct me on this. I am almost certain this film was shot entire movie

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe this entire film was shot green screens australia

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right. Oh my god at fox studios in sydney. Yep

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Pick up shots at ealing in britain, but mostly no no no you're right and then some to new zeo obviously that's katoine and

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Some plaza de hispania in civil. I assume that's some of the naboo stuff. Yes, but yeah, so

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: my point is

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Natalie portman is a very very fair scant lady. She looks like me. Oh you're saying she has transparent jew flash

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so but you're saying she was just spending some time at the beach in the sun

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a hot country there there is a one scene in the motion picture draft day

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's my first scene in the movie

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Where I the weekend before had gone to a theme park right?

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're right. You do look kind of tanned in draft day. Yep, especially. Yeah. Well, i'm thinking of that scene

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It's my first scene. Yeah, no in the film

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I had gone to a theme park the day before with my buddy tim simons who has a view fame

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Been in talks to be on this podcast. He needs to be on it. We need to get him. Tim please does he listen?

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know but he wanted to be on it. I really want him to listen to it

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I want ten simons to hear my voice tim. You were great and beat this if you're listening

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Please tweet it tim and tell him to timothy see simons. Is it see? Yeah, timothy see simons. I'm please tweet him and tell him to be on this podcast

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: God that'd be great. He's he's great. He's one of the greats. He is one of the greats

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_00]: um, I love him there's a great theme park in

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Ohio it's like the best theme park in america. What's it called cedar rapids?

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I've heard of that place cedar falls. Yeah cedar rapids is a movie. Yeah

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They have a ride based on the movie. Oh, it sounds great. No, it's called cedar falls

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So you spend some time in a in a hot tub in a swimming pool in a hotel swimming pool with a top of san jesh

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly. Yeah, uh

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We're way off track. We went on all these roller coasters for a day got really sunburned

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The next day we were filming my first scene the movie. Yeah, you shoot things out of order

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And they were like you don't look the same this whole movie takes place on one day on the titular draft day

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, we've shot the scenes that take place 30 minutes after this

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And your skin is an entirely different color because I don't tan I burn you just burn

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So they had to try to put pale makeup over my sunburn

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And I look as my sister put it

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: In my first scene the movie look

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And I quote my sister very hispanic

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You're a little Puerto Rican boy. I look like a little Puerto Rican boy

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I look like elliangonzales and then it goes away

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But for the first scene I look very doll like and weird

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the combination of shooting on video and that wasn't a tested thing

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And you light things differently on video

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We spend a lot of time on this I get it their their skin's a little tanned

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think combined with the hair and the outfits

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Let us never speak of this again. Padme looks like Rachel D'Aulizal if you have an opinion tweet at us

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag Padme D'Aulizal has hashtag ask Rachel. That's the uh, that's the hashtag ask Rachel

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the like funny hashtag on twitter where you want to oh really make fun of her. Yep

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know we're using our own hashtag. It's hashtag Padme D'Aulizal and tweet yes or no

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag Padme D'Aulizal

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You're a monster moving on I'm gonna keep this up for 10 episodes moving on

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So but you're really come on the next scene is obi one and Anakin in the elevator

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And they are radically different from the last time we saw them. It is crazy

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Obi-Wan has long hair and a beard. Yep. He kind of looks like quaggaon

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like been quaggaoned. Yeah, and then Anakin looks like obi one. He's tall. He's a grown man

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got the flat top haircut and the braid. Yeah, and they're fucking Jedi

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_00]: He's facially almost entirely different a way that often happens when you cast different actors to play the same character

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: He is now played by Hayden christiansen who at the time was not a well-known actor

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: No, he had done my life as a house had come out a couple years before

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's no life as a house came out the same year. No, it did not

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking it up. No, it did not because I distinctly remember seeing life in the year before fine

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Was it only a year before 2001? I went to see and he was nominated for golden globe. He's really good in that movie

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I contend. Okay. Uh, I think he was also nominated for sag award

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: No, kevin kline was nominated for a sag award strangely enough and not christiansen. I thought both of them

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was too. Yeah. Wow. Thank you. What a what a he like only missed out on the oscar

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: He was that you're predicted. He was gonna get it right

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But I now and I was following the oscar race then and I always knew he was never gonna get it

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't like it. You know, I was pushing for it. I really liked him in that movie. It's a bad movie

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad movie. I fully agree with him. It's a dumb cancer about a cancer dad building a house

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the house is his life because he's gonna die. So yeah, he like but like this it's a good question had he

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like a Canadian tv star. That was his big thing. Yeah, he just he was

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he'd been a couple of us. There was a goose bumps

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which was shot in Canada and are you afraid of the dark and then he's in the shot in Canada as well

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Right and and then he's in

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Are the virgin suicides

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he plays one of the guys. Yeah, but he doesn't I think have a line in the film. Yeah

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: He's on screen a lot, but yeah

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Attack of the clones. I guess so life is a house, but I think yeah life is a house

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean he was really plucked from out of nowhere

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember taking my mom not taking my mom asking my mom to take me

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_00]: To my life as a house because I wanted to see oh, this is the guy who's gonna play the grown-up Anakin Skywalker

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see what this guy's like

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw that movie. I didn't like it, but I loved his performance and I was like that's really exciting

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this guy's gonna be the lead the next Star Wars movie and then he shows up on screen and is immediately terrible

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: He's so bad so bad from the get-go. Yeah, he's a disaster

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a he can't read a single line without it sounding like stilted and horrible

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing I used to try I feel like I used to stick up for hating Christian a little bit

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's got a sort of a weird affect and you kind of just want to roll with it

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But he's really bad in this movie really good life as a house and I like him in shattered glass

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean I like the clones. He's really like that movie. Yeah, I think he's good

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But it the movie is kind of playing to what's annoying about him. It's a perfect role for him

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think he does a good job. Yeah, he has a very very specific vibe

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And he does feel like George not the right vibe for Anakin's no George Lucas has greatly miscast him

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's crazy because I think there was like a seriously in-depth casting process for this role

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he must have tested god knows how many young actors

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if I could find out who is like the runner because I feel like I read recently someone who was the runner up and was surprised about it

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Really? Yeah, I know he tested them like alongside

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: um

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Natalie portman and you know tried to make sure they would have chemistry

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe there was someone

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: All right. Well he has gone on to a modicum of fame since then who was a runner up

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is this is an important part. Okay. Yeah, uh only three years have passed

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So no no, I'm saying oh in real time filming. Okay. Yeah, so Natalie portman looks pretty much the exact same age

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, despite their attempts to dress her like Rachel Dolezal. She looks the same. Okay

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh obi-wan Kenobi has the beard and the hair which makes him look older

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But facially he looks pretty much the same. Yes, you know Gregor

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I think has modified his performance and has given it a sort of weight gravitas. Yeah

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree and so that's gone across

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely feels like if you're watching a play and in between act one and act two 10 years pass

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And they put a little gray in the guy's temples. Yeah, and he just has to carry it

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look like realistic aging no

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But you don't really care because who cares and the dead eye who knows with them

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Yeah, but then we have an actor who is clearly 10 years older than yes

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Jake Lloyd is a child. This is a grown man basically

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So there's immediately a cognitive dissonance. Yeah, because how old is he supposed to be?

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_01]: 18 19 tops

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So other actors i'm seeing Jonathan brandis collin hanks

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh widely remembered to be the runner-up ryan filipino. Yeah

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: All terrible choices ryan filipino is terrible. Paul walker

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean this says leo de caprio, which was a long rumor, but that's leo de caprio

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But was quote definitely unavailable according to the caprios publicist, right? Um

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: What's interesting about uh, philippy being the runner-up is that they have a very similar vibe same same way of talking the same

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Also to have this kind of like they're like high voices

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But this weird like slurred mouth gosseling would have been good gosselin would have been incredible

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know someone like that and you know who got in right age, you know right time gosseling at that point in time

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You've been in the believer

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Was that around the same time he gets 2001

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He up until that point was largely known as a canadian tv actor much like hayden christian sir

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. He was young hercules. Yep. He had the mickey mouse club, which was in america

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But he was mostly doing canadian children's television, right?

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: TV movies, you know who else would ruin good to see flutter

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Heath Ledger would have been great

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he was a little old at that point because 10 things I hate about you's a couple years old

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, but still he would have been great, but you know, he would have made it work

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You know when yoda was like I sense a lot of anger in this kid. I don't think so and we're like this kid seems nice

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's a bad performance, but this kid seems positive jacoid

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. I was saying it's a character. Yeah. No, I know what you're saying. What's he backing on this kid?

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This kid's got like a good disposition right

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately our media introduction anakin this film. We're like, oh, I kind of see what yoda was talking

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: This kid's a fucking brat. Yeah, but it's shoved down our throat. Yeah

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He is brady all the time. He's mopey. He talks like this

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me princess

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And like

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He's

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh always got attitude and you're you know, you're supposed to suppose that the reason for this attitude is because he's a slave

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Who was taken from his family?

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's where all of his resentment seems to lie and as we find out and also the fact that he's like over

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like overflowing with skill and magic and power

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he doesn't know how to direct and the expectations on them everyone's going

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you might be the one guy who brings balance to the force and in the last 10 years everything's gone to shit

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Planets are leaving the fucking galactic republic balance to the force already buddy, right?

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of what we learn in this movie and we will talk about it in another episode

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that the jedi's powers are like leaving them? Yes, like they can't even like look in the future anymore

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how bad it is added to that. We also find out this film something I predicted

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, something about our last podcast. Yeah, real impressive our last miniseries

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The jedi's have these fucking insane monk-like rules about how they can live and can't live well predicted

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, good job, my friend. Um, yes, they are not allowed to marry. They're not allowed to you know

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's a kid he's fucking 19 or whatever his hormonal

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_01]: All these little bitos what do they do with the other kids? Do the other kids just um

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Do they like get it drummed into them from birth like no girls no girls no boys

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah when we were like going on those wikipedia entries a lot of jedi's were discovered as babies

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's why they say we're always so manic control for training

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have no perspective and you don't know other things exist even if those hormones exist in you, right?

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Those things flare up naturally biologically if you've been raised to believe that's not an option

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't know they just maybe eat it into you whatever they override it

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What if you're anakin and you're like like eight whatever he is seven

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And you meet this like you could tell he's got the hots for padme and fan a mess because he's saying that angel

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Shit in the way that like a lot of kids have a crush on the babysitter. Yeah, right. She's cute

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But she's beautiful. I always had crush my babies. You know, I'm like, you just look right

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We talk about a lot but uh

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: That sort of thing you can tell he already has those sort of like feelings urging inside of him

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You know and surging inside of him urging. He's got the urge to surge

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then they're telling like oh by the way, you're not allowed to be with girl. Yeah, I get it. I get it

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I uh, totally no

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So he'd grown up being like, oh, maybe someday I'll have like a wife and then now is like eight or nine

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like told like you're not yeah, not gonna have everybody

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And so he feels really angsty in this and can I point out something else? Sure

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, all Jedi's have the same colored rope brown with white in inside. I guess like a light tan. Yeah, and again

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Is rocking like this dark. Yeah

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a black. Yeah deep brown with like a big hood. Yeah

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Why why is he?

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how this shit works. Is that his Yoda has like white robes though, right?

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He has brown robes too. I don't know. Okay, but it's they wear very simple clothes

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They're on the same sort of like like wedge of the color wheel and then Anakin's at the opposite wedge

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's all really really dark because he's angsty because this movie is like

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_01]: From the minute one just being like get it get it Anakin really angsty really really really like

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: petulant

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And teen aged and angsty

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So is he like the kid with like the school uniform who modifies it to make it more punk because he's like

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking don't make me where you see I could do with more of that because that would look good

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_01]: This is just like he has black clothes. I mean you barely know you notice it and I'm like, huh? Oh, yeah, I guess so like

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not cool looking Anakin's not cool. No, he's not cool at all

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the biggest problems

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That's maybe the biggest problem this fall Anakin's not cool obi one is like slightly cool

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But you really want him to be way cooler. Yeah, he's a little cool though, but this is what I like

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Hayden christens isn't bad from the first second

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You McGregor's doing okay work. Yeah, I like him playing this sort of now like him better in this I do too. Yeah, um, he does

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Let it be said and it's not throughout the film

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Which makes me think some of these things were reshoots

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: They had to go off and film another movie and there were modifications

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially within his introduction his beard looks so preposterously fake

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: There are other scenes where it's clearly a real beer interesting right but other times it was basically just painted on anything

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not a heavy beer. No, it's it's pretty slight

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a trimmed beard the length that you have yeah the bendus or aka perduer ben aka the haze aka the poet laureate

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_00]: aka hello final

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Has

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That kind of beard right? Yeah. Yeah, which is harder to fake than a real full beard

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, right because you have to kind of like apply this very thin

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You need the translucency where you can still see the skin underneath

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Which means it looks it looks really shitty right and his hair looks really shitty

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I think he probably had a gapper then he had to go film moulin rouge

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Trim his beard and then come back. Yeah, god. He looks completely different in moulin rouge

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: That's my guess because sometimes his hair and his beard looks really really fake

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: What else does he have? He's in like young adam around that point

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Moulin Rouge

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I know was shot in australia probably around the same time because that movie was delayed a wall too

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and fan of men's probably had two years of post-production totally opposite

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, moulin rouge has a lot of green screen too, but moulin rouge

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But they built some real sets for that thing a lot of great sets. Yeah, um

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_00]: His beard looks really fake oscar winner best sector. Yeah, that's our direction. Uh, his beard looks really fake. Yep

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hatton christens is doing a terrible job, but

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I really like the interplay in this elevator. You what you like to play

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you are you crazy? I do I like the tone it's setting maybe once again stockholm syndrome

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so happy to see a new phase. It's so badly delivered. It's badly delivered

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say it's well executed, but the film is making it's it's oh god

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I think this movie is doing a poor job

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Executing all the right things. It should be doing

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, where's that tremendous is making the wrong moves and making them poorly? Yeah

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: This film is like we always said like the relationship to incline got an obi-wan is so boring. There's so I totally get what you're coming from

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And this are kind of funny and they're bantering master. I want to do this

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what did I tell you about doing that? And they're like remember that, you know

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: When we were in the bantha pit. I don't know what they're talking about like they're like

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: They've had a fun time. Yeah except that's completely completely missing from their performances any

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Evidence of that they're not doing it well. No, they're doing it. It's not well. It's not that they're not doing it

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're doing it badly sure it's bad

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'd also argue with poorly written which makes it harder to do well

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but you're right that there's there's push and pull

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Because in the first one in fit they're not funny, but they're trying to be phantom and is quaggons

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we're gonna do this nobody wants like but and then quite on it's like

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know what's best and in this one obi one's like I want to do this and Anakin's like no and

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Defies him and thus causing you know some trouble some action some some fun

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Addendum they are not funny. I would say their relationship is quote unquote comedic

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a light obi one hat. You know, I hate when he does that like obi one has some funny lines

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a light jokie sort of tone to me. There is one funny thing in this movie. We'll get to it later

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it might be connected to one of my two favorite characters

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't it's not the tone for their relationship where you're just kind of like I don't know

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it makes obi one kind of look bad

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Is in my feeling interesting in my way ben

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like if he's letting Anakin get away with that

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas if you think of the first movie the relationship between him and quaggon

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It was very much more like he's my mentor and I have to listen to him

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you're I think ben is right

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're supposed to get the idea that obi one doesn't quite know how to control anakin

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: He was thrown into it. He doesn't quite know how to direct him on the right path

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And like you say, yeah, that makes sense because obi one is a brand new master himself

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But what does that accomplish or Jedi knight not master. He's not a master

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a Jedi knight now whether or not is well done. I do think that accomplishes making the characters

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: More relatable sure which is our biggest complaint is that the every fucking character in phantom s was a cipher, right?

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that every single movie should start with someone spilling coffee on themselves, right

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to start or maybe an intern spills like a whole tray of coffee. God. Why would anyone cut that out of me?

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think you you want characters who have flaws that you can understand are struggling to overcome very basic

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediate things in their environment, right and to see obi one who before was just like this like brown nosy sort of like dude

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Be like hey look, you know, I'm a single father. I don't know what I'm doing

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: A single father is a good way to put it. It's not well done

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm looking at and I'm being like this movie is taking the steps. I want it to take

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay. So what's next though?

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They get upstairs

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Jar Jar

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Is so happy to see his old friend

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's possible Jar Jar even comes off more stupid in this film than last time he has less to do but his dialogue

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's in an official position

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: We should address the fact that it's pretty obvious

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: George Lucas realized or realized that people didn't like Jar Jar because he is in like three scenes and there's a moment

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's so

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Contrasted with the phantom minus where Jar Jar isn't scenes. He shouldn't be in and this scene Jar Jar isn't no

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He just has a section of the plot. He's only there when he needs tiny tiny section of the plot

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there was a moment when he walks past the camera and gives this like smirk. He does that's like fuck you

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like Jar Jar saying fuck you to the audience like i'm still here

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he's there and you're right. He does seem more annoying. It's because he uh

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like people take him seriously and has not aged a bit in ten years. Well, we don't know how the gung and sage

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying physically. I'm saying mentally. Okay, that's true. We all get wiser with age

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's true

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: How is he a senator right? He's a senator. He seems dumber than he did before it's true and it's like

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't believe in like

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know a cultural homogenization

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think if you're senator be a professional learn how to fucking be a professional proper syntax jar jar, you know whatever

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked so much about the gung and okay, so he's excited to see them and patty walks in

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And and like doesn't really react is like nice to see you thank you for him

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she doesn't even seem to acknowledge them as uh her friends because she's too busy

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Being worried that someone's gonna catch her for being white

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Pat means she almost got killed pat mays kind of a pain in the ass in this movie

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: She kind of is but she's real stuck up in this scene. Yeah, that's what I mean in the early parts of the move

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She she sort of settles down. Okay. She leaves and anakin is like you fucking see that bullshit

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_01]: No, she doesn't say I think I thought she acknowledged. No, she acknowledges it

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like any it is you you've grown

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: With like very little emotion. I know his dialogue with obiwan right after is like she barely yeah, I know I know

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's all wrong. It's like she doesn't with no emotion and you're like

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is she reading the lines this way here are her friends and then anakin is like

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's saying like

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: My ex-girlfriend and she barely and it's like dude. You were like a kid. What are you looking for here?

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not like a week with her. Yeah, and he's like complaining to obiwan like like she should be

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the whole thing is so weird like again. You're saying it's making the right steps

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But then it's just it's just presenting them all the wrong ways

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_00]: so

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Obiwan and anakin around security detail taking care of padme. Yeah, we sure as this deck right

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of a cool plot setup. It's a it's a plot setup is what it is

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of a cool one. It's kind of a good sequel but also it's a plot setup

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Unlike phantom menace where it was just like well, what happens next? We'll see a series of events. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Negotiations. Oh, they failed let's go down. Oh, here's some gungans. Oh, here's the queen, you know, like just

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Here we've got she's been targeted for assassination

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_01]: There they're a protector obiwan needs to figure out who did it and anakin needs to protect her like very simple plot

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I think this movie is taking the right steps. Sure

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they might not be pretty steps

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They might be awkward clumsy steps through the mud but considering how deep they dug themselves in that phantom menace pit

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_00]: They're like getting out of it pretty well moving towards someone kind of interesting

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what's the way to get these characters back together? Yeah, her life is under threat

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Immediately stakes in every scene. We're wondering if someone makes sense

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not what if they just like met at a coffee shop, you know, right? There's a real reason for them all to be together

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: This is my friend alex chris who listens to fan hi alex chris. He was the one who pointed this out to me

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like phantom menace. There's no spine to it. Yeah, this one right from the get-go

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a reason this movie is happening and they have that line the beginning where she goes

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's going to take care of us and it's like well, you know, we don't have an army

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like hitting this point again

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all coming down to this vote about whether or not to give right are we going to military?

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Galactic republic and remember this movie's coming on 2002

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: America is now under attack. Yeah, America is at war in afghanistan

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: America's fermenting war in iraq which hasn't happened yet, but you know, that's that's

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a totally different political climate from 1999 the the boomy years

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the question. I really actually think there is something to that

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that george lucas is picking up that piece

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I do too. He's always been a political filmmaker

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Very much and he wanted to make apocalypse now. It's this crazy documentary

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, oh god his like picture for apocalypse now is the most amazing thing

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You should read it sometime

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: George

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but anyway, yeah, yes. Well, and it's the question. Why would you vote against an army?

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The argument is it's good to have one just in case. Yeah, but it's like the atomic bomb thing

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like if we have it, we're gonna have to use it

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also, you know, it lets

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It would let whoever's in charge like impose martial law

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, just it's like that could happen

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But he's kind of twisting arm going like well if we had an army

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Then we'd be able to assign people to take care of you and the jedi thing is like a quick fix

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Like who do we fucking get? Oh those two jedis, you know, yeah good way to get the gang back together

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like this, you know

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are these stakes here. They have a clear mission

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep Padme alive and then you've got dynamics here in all of them. Yeah Padme

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't know what to do about this vote. Yeah, Obi-Wan

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He really needs to take a poop. He doesn't know when he gets to do that Anakin

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He's in love with Padme. He's a jedi. It's mostly Anakin, you know, he's the one with a lot of things

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is this meeting is setting up a lot of like bubbling tension in and if they fail

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan has like no tension if they fail their job

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It potentially, you know sways the vote towards the army towards militarizing because it's like clearly noted opponent

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But also not just because she'll be taken out. Yeah

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But also because it's like well if we had an army then this wouldn't have happened

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We would have had people to protect her. The seppresses are picking us off. Yeah

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I like the way this stage is set. Yeah

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: She's sleeping in bed at night. There are the tail outside the door. Obi-Wan's like shouldn't you be in there?

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He's like it's fine. I can feel everything happening out in the other side of this room. He's like I got a fucking jedi

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Lay off me homes. Okay. Yep

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there's there's a weird scene where we see uh

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: A purple magenta huge bounty hunter. Mm-hmm. We're in a veil over her face. Yeah

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_01]: She's handed a tube by a another

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Armor clad. Yes silver armor clad bounty hunter blue and silver blue and silver

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They're in the city

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is an interesting but but now we're seeing Coruscant because in the first one we're going

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the whole plants a city, but we're only seeing yeah the top the council

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We're only seeing the the senate now. We're seeing like the dregs a little bit a little bit. I like the slums of Coruscant

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we get more of that. Yeah, it's sort of like

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's a little like like like tokyo inspired a lot of bright colors and lights

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh dark density

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Density, um very mechanical towers. Anyway, she is giving this tube like you say

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever he says there it goes fucking you know what to do with this

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I know what to do with this and she pilots a little drone over to her

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Amidala's bedroom. She loads this little tube into the drone and it drops two poisonous worms

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's his gross slugs and uh, and we find out right did you say this already?

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The anakin had to turn off the camera because she uh, pat made him like him watching her

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. That was the thing so r2's in there r2's back by the r2's back r2's back

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The the hyperdrive repairing droid we all know and love he's back

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah as her senator droid. I don't know what is surprise of all the characters to bring back

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_00]: He's he's a weird one that interesting a character in the first movie, but here he is

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He's better in this one actually

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: He has like 18 times more things to do with this one. He's crazy how much r2 does he's maybe the third lead of this

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so they put r2 in as like a room guard like do you remember as a kid you'd have those room guards?

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no exactly room guards where it was like all it could sense is if something walked by it would make a noise

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not that good. No, uh

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_01]: It's already his looks say Padme's already picking up a creepy like fuckboy vibe from anakin like why are you fucking watch me?

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right because she wants to like masturbate in peace

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_00]: That's something hurt his job is watch after me, but she's like don't watch me like that

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right. I'm doing what you told me to excuse me princess how you're fucking watching me

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You're watching me in a gross sex hallway. Don't do it. Anyway the worms come in they almost get her

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a nice little scene our two alarm goes off. No, I think the Jedi's just sense it remember scanning

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: He's scanning but the Jedi's just are obi-wan and anakin talking about like the shit that obi-wan just took

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like I sent it to and then they run in there and uh

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin chops the little worms in half

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually like that it's very cool because he does it very cleanly, but it's like right by her neck

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So then they look and they're like where where these things come from they see the drone outside the window

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Obi-Wan goes like i'm on it jumps through the window and grabs it pretty cool

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty bad. It is pretty cool. And so now obi-wan is like flying through the through the space traffic

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the lower level. I guess so we're not on the floor yet

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We're in the you know, he's he's in the air because it's flying around

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if we go like Coruscant since it's all one city uptown downtown midtown wouldn't be relative. Yeah, it's like uh

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's you know, I get you so uptown would be like the Jedi council the senate these tall buildings that are very clean and sort of silvery

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going down and it's like, you know murky colors with neon, you know

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's kind of played runnery with all the with all the neon lights and stuff like that

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We're in midtown

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're like right above the downtown buildings

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say except blade runner obviously is like a masterpiece of design

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is like completely half ass and doesn't look very good. Yeah, but I like they were getting a different kind of energy

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd do too because anakin hot wires. I think like a little car. Oh a speeder. Yeah, right the very just steal it

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't clear if that's like theirs or if he just nicks it. No, you next it. Yeah, uh, it's a speeder

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and anakin knows the speeders because we talked about the test and it's different than a spaceship. Yeah ship speeder

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, we've talked about oh, I know so he steals the speeder and they are there in pursuit

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And I would say this is a successful part of the film

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It could be a lot better

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But it works pretty well like there's some banter

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a good actually one at the top where invested in who the characters are it's new. It looks different from you know

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You're still like you're saying we're seeing car is on

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's happening in you know the surface so that car's flying everywhere. It's like a totally different environment

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And there are a lot of character beats within it

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like obi-wan is holding on to this drone flying through eventually he ends up in the speeder with anakin

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And it becomes a running bit of like how dangerous a driver anakin is he's a he's he's crazy

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he does all kinds of wacky stunts and he's always losing his lightsaber

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say it's funny, but I would say it is okay. It's much better than what I appreciate

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. It's like a shitty rush hour ripoff where it's like man

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: What have I told you about like I don't love the delivery of I hate when he does that

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: When anakin jumps out of the car to land on her space cars zam-wessel. That's her name, right? Yeah

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know, I appreciate it like that's the thing to aim for I like the direction they're going into

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the big point though

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_00]: They've just left Padme by herself

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That is true. There one job. Is there any protector there? Oh, no. Oh r2d2 who fucking failed before

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Jar Jar's out

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't he's not in her bedroom. It's true. Why right now she's defenseless

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't another assassin the silver guy? Why doesn't he just show up and just fucking shoot her dead right there?

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, why doesn't like obi-wan jump on the the drone and anakin go like well, I'll stay here. Well anakin's impulsive though

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's part of it, right? He does a lot of impulsive things. He flies through some power couplings

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And obi-wan complains about that. He loses his lightsaber

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they land at a bar

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is a good scene

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Once again a very different environment than we've seen in phantom men doesn't like it

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_00]: They landed a bar. Ben hates this movie. Ben hates this podcast. They landed a bar. I don't hate this podcast

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But you do hate this movie. I can now grab the one that's been worse

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Ben okay of the three movies we've discussed on the podcast all three of which you hate

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_00]: How would you rank the judge phantom menace and attack of the clones? Oh, that's so tough

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're just getting into it. So I'll I'll say attack is like I could bear it's fresh

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's fresh. It's still got some I haven't had to listen to like nine more episodes yet

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'll go judge next

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey phantom menace more than the judge. Yeah

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I definitely hate the judge the most meets it. Yeah, no question. I mean I didn't watch the whole movie

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I like phantom the best

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I I like attack right now. All right. Well, let's see. Anyway, I just want to get to I like that scene where they go to the bar

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And mouse from the matrix. Yeah says do you want to that sticks one of my two favorite characters in the film

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that fucking guy evan sleaze bagano?

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So his name is evan i'm sorry it's evan oh

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a human name. They added an o at the end so it sounds oh sure evan oh

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's I mean he's got like hair or ears or something or antenna sleaze

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: bagano

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking him. I'm looking him up and he is selling

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Death sticks right it's like it's like some kind of drug. So here's the thing sometimes

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh filmmakers add subtext into their movies. No come on. This movie is called attack of the clones

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no subtext sometimes there's surface things that the characters are saying and then there are things you can sort of imply

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a big argument right now about whether or not Jurassic world is sexist and how it treats its female character

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, which I think it is. I think it's casually sexist right. It's not it's not a didactically sexist movie

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't think calling trevor hates women, but I think he doesn't I think he hates me because he made that movie that

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like yeah

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, I mean Jurassic world is like a right a casually. It's not terrible

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_00]: She has her moments like a woman should be in the kitchen movie

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little like let the guy boss her around. I don't know I think

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly think he really just fucked up and didn't think about it

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I just to defend him like you know, I don't like him talks like he thought so much about every element though

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like either. He's a poser or he's like I think he just saw her as like representing a lot of types

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is sort of the you know the yeah, I don't want to talk about dresser clothes

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need there but I will just say at the beginning of the film worse than this movie no question

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Jurassic world was worse than attack no question because it had no ounce of

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Imagination in it. Where's the attack of clones at least has some imagination even if it's and there wasn't one sequence I liked

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man. Menace has the pod racing this has some things. I really like in it. It does. Yeah. Yeah

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll get to them

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Just I would say this movie compared to both phantom and is and Jurassic world not the judge

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Um is more of a drag than either of those movies but phantom and is Jurassic world

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They move at a pretty good clip this movie is drag it has a lot of fat

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's too long and it has a lot of scenes that are boring but the first 20 minutes move like a speeder first 20 minutes

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching the first 20 minutes move like a speeder

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching it. Yeah put that quote on the box, george porgy

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I was watching it and I turned my roommates and I went

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, I think I love this move no the first 20 minutes. I felt like I loved it. Maybe it was lowered expectations

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it was but I felt like I loved it and I was like this is moving fast a lot's happening

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then the next hour and 20 minutes two hours in 20. It's two hours and it's two hours and 20 minutes

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So the next two hours of the film proceed to feel like seven or eight. Yeah, there's sludge

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: There's moments. There's pieces that are a little exciting, but it's really really really slow going and it's really bad

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_00]: There's great stuff

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll we'll talk about yeah

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Just what quickly say the annoying thing for me about Jurassic World is that she's a stuck-up lady

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's humorless and heartless and all she cares about is business. She does care about her her nephews

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_00]: At the end and that's what makes her a human being and there's a whole thing with judy greer as her sister shaming her for not having kids

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like when and she's like when I don't know if I'm ever gonna have kids

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Then once she learns to let her maternal instincts kick in and defend these children

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And be subservient to the man who's telling her what to do then she's happy

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The scene where he kisses her is like getting the kitchen before you belong the scene where he kisses her is like not remotely

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Own uh earned they have not liked each other up until that point. It's like it's like Jesus dude

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Put it in your print like what anyway fun sidebar, uh a couple months ago

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to my uh agents sure who are responsible for trying to make sure my career

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Exists sure do they listen to the podcast? No, this is the very point

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm building up to right now go ahead and I was like saying like I wanted to do any podcast

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like trying to figure out what to make a podcast about and they were like well the thing you're best at is like talking

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_00]: About movies, but I feel like it's dangerous for you to do a podcast about movies

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you'll end up publicly going on the record speaking about a lot of things

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't like when you might then have to get jobs from those people sure that's a good point

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm probably ruining my career whatever trevor was not even making dress park five. Yeah, it's great

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about speaking shit about con trevor the man who directed the biggest opening weekend of all time

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's the second biggest no it in the final numbers. It now is a bigger open

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Avengers yeah, it's the number one highest grossing that's a bummer because I really like I like that the avengers was on top

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a nice movie a dress world's a piece of shit and I hope con trevor doesn't hire me

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I just said that should I uh

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_00]: No keep that in okay i'm gonna. Who could you have played in Jurassic world?

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess the jake johnson part but jake johnson actually did a great job

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He's the one good character in that phone. We can't talk about Jurassic world anymore. I don't want to dignify it

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough tension. It's like the rachel dola's all of movies all it wants is our attention for acting out

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So stop giving it attention and her

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're not gonna talk about them. She's a great lady

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Um well so to we're kind of wrapping up on this opening sequence, which I think is what we're just

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Evan sleaze bagging we're talking about subtext so I was saying the subtext in Jurassic world is is kind of in Jurassic world

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying the subtext yeah in Jurassic world is kind of

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Anti-feminist right oh sure if only subtle right intended or no there it is

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think George is doing an interestingly similar thing here in this scene

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we're watching the movie or going well. It's a movie made by a man, but it's not all biographical

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's not on screen. I don't know how he feels about everything for example

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how George Lucas feels about cigarettes as a concept sure

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess so they never come up. Okay, then a character walks out

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to buy some Netflix? He's got a gross voice. He talks like wato a little bit

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But his voice is clearly modulated. There's something

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_00]: He uh

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Looks unhealthy

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll say he's got like rings around his eyes and he's in a sleazy bar

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_00]: He's in a sleazy bar. Yeah, they don't say this on screen

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But his name is Evan sleaze bagging now right and they says hey do you want to buy some medastics?

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And there'll be one literally brain washes him like yeah says like those are not good for you

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want you don't want to buy me tell me death sticks and he's like I don't want to say that six

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like you want to go and make something of your life. He says the those will harm

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he says like those are not good for you and he goes there not good for me

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he says something that's like you shouldn't smoke those into bad for you. So call me crazy

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think George Lucas doesn't like cigarettes. Okay. I don't like cigarettes either. I'm with you George

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'm saying I think maybe death sticks are meant to represent cigarettes

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, okay. What are you where are you going with this? And maybe the fact

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying this is an interesting subtextual thing. It's very subtle. It's very subtle

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But here's his character. His name is Evan sleaze bagging. We're supposed to think that he's a sleaze bag

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He offers death sticks. They look like cigarettes. I think the death sticks are supposed to be like drugs

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But sure i'm with you. He's a sleaze. He's a real sleaze baggo sleaze baggono. Oh, yeah, let's look at his work

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so he's one of my two after this scene

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, doesn't obi one then have to like chop someone up in the zanwessel

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They see zanwessel in the park. They kill her there. They kill her there. Oh, oh, we missed one important point

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so anakin is like jumping onto zanwessel's speeder. Oh god this scene. I know this thing

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It takes his lights up and it was opening in the window like her sunroof. Yeah, he's like sort of smashing

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_00]: He just like swings the lights over around like it's just knocking around

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's it and obi one catches that. Then she looks up at him and her face turns into a lizard face

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So when they land

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I really it is the perfect example of just like, you know what maybe

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: She has a lizard face. She's got like a fucking lizard face. Yeah, and so they um, they let you know anakin and obi one land

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_01]: She goes into this bar, which by the way like don't do that go anywhere else. Yeah

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Just drive away

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But they say and he says something like to hurt like I think he is a she and I think she is a changeling

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, oh, then she's even more dangerous than we thought. Yeah, he's gonna have to be extra careful

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like, uh-huh. What does that mean? Does it mean she turns into a lizard sometimes?

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's it and she's dead and this never comes up again

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it means. She does not seem to gain any extra power from being a changeling

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, um, she has a very distinctive outfit a very uh slender purple jumpsuit. Sure and then she's got the the harem

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's got the right. Yeah. Yeah. And this helmet and these boots and this little cape and everything

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cool cool get up

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But when she changes all that changes is just then she's got a lizard face

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: She's just green and you just be like, well, that's that same lady from before with a lizard face

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not a good, um, chameleon like scale. She doesn't get bigger. She doesn't seem to be a better fighter

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_00]: She's so fucking stupid

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: You should look out for this lizard face lady

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they interrogate her and they cut off her arm. They bring outside the interrogator

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I just wanted to say the one thing that's kind of cool is they cut off her arm and then

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: uh, Anakin's like Jedi business

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and everyone's like, you know, like I like that idea that people are going to fuck Jesus what she do

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to say and I think we're going to get into this in later episodes

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: But doesn't it start to really really feel noirish? Yep, especially at that point

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: They're walking into a bar smokey room

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: They're asking questions. I expected her to be crawling out of the bathroom window. Yeah. Yeah like it. I don't know and they maybe should have

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Like kept to that

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know kept on that rail a little bit. Well, that's why that's why this episode is covering up to this scene because this

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Up until this point it's implying a very specific kind of film. Yeah, there are more scenes that are along those lines

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Just even worse but up until this point it's the diner. Yes. Well, you're talking about my second favorite character

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, we're gonna have so much to say about that scene

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Up until this point

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's 20 minutes that are all moving in one direction. That's kind of exciting. Yeah, right

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a mystery who is trying to kill Padme and why? I forget if she says anything

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Does she say anything before Django Fett kills her?

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens. So they're talking to her and then suddenly Django Fett hits her. Yeah, we don't know his name at this point

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the guy who handed her the slug tube. Yeah, the silver guy

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Spits a dart at her shoots a dart or he doesn't spit it's from his arm

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little dart and it hits her in the neck and she dies and then turns into a lizard form. Yes

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what a dangerous change

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: When she dies she her face is different. How dangerous?

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and uh

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Then they look at the dart and they look at each other and they're like

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We got to figure out what the fuck is going on. Yeah, right, right, right

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's one little piece of evidence to toe hold in the case. This is an exciting movie

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna figure out who's trying to kill the one lady their task with protecting in front of this backdrop of like

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Galaxy and turmoil. Oh, yes, absolutely and not just because fucking oh, they can't get the newspapers from one planet to another

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the silk isn't being transported like really like people are defecting

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They need an army. It's a war star wars. We might see some wars in this motherfucking movie. That's true star wars

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, wikipedia character spotlight. I got his first name wrong. His name is ellan

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Sleaze baggana. Ellen. He's a male balasar death stick dealer in the planet Coruscant during the

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: uh, secessionist moment

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm selectors name. He was mouse in the matrix

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Doran. Yeah, you never had a career, but he did have that one so good these two movies

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite character in each film, maybe I'd like him in the matrix

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not Ellen says bagganos on Coruscant the capital of the galactic republic during the secessionist movement

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Shortly before the ballot. This isn't totally anything. All right. Who cares? Like I said, wikipedia is not good for attack of the clones

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this one's really what is your point

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You had a point you were building to I feel like maybe

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Did I think George Lucas is anti-cigarette?

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No, not that point that the the first 20 minutes of the noir movie

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm saying no my point is that's why once again

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: We're making our first episode the beginning of the film right because we want to look at what the film sets up and whether or not the film

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Plays off of that builds off of that and and plays out

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: What is established in the in the first chunk? Sure

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, my point I'm building up to is I'm setting the stage for a fucking great 10 episode run of attack of the podcast

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: What will happen next what's gonna happen next? We've seen the whole thing we know but what's gonna be one go to a diner

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Time can only tell

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Will anakin ride a headless blob

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: rhino, I don't know how to describe it. Yeah. Yeah, maybe me

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, you know, we're back in full force, baby. You're gonna see a great season full of some of our favorites

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, again ended with another commentary. We're gonna do a performance review

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna topic different sections of the film going to talk about the commentary again

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be a fucking phenomenal. We've got so many things to flush out in this movie. This movie is

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: It is ridiculous. It's actually insane. We're not even talking about how crazy it is that as a sequel

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: They decided to jump forward 10 years and basically drop almost everything from the previous movie 10 years

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But only have one character visibly age

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And really

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no because have me changes race and Obi-Wan grows a beard

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise they do bring back some other old characters and we'll get to them

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Mace Windu

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Yoda yo mace windu in a greatly expanded role. Yeah, and Yoda in a greatly expanded role. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Schmi Skywalker

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Wato Wato

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Wato though Wato though Wato who else is back in this one?

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Who else is back in this one see three p.o another character?

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think would come back and he has like so much to do once again

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Weirdly like because I don't remember the fans loving him at the time of phantom menace

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But it feels like completely different for some reason r2 and c3p on neither from me a

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Super big impression. They're all over this movie. They are all over this as if the fans demanded it and then um

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: New gun race back new gun ray is back. Uh, he hates women runic

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: They're back, baby. Um, yeah, we're forgetting people

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Sio Bibble is back. So Bibbles back. He shows up again. Yeah

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, you know, you know who's uh, well, no, we didn't I mean go ahead

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean her big scene hasn't come up yet big scene in quotes

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But um

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Showing the movie George Lucas has some and I for young women

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Roseburn Roseburn playing a handmaiden in a role kind of similar to what

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, cure nightly played in the first film Roseburn who has become I think one of our best actresses working today

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen spy? Yeah, she's so good. She's so good. She's so good

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We gotta get roseburn on the podcast rose come on the podcast. You're amazing in spy

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: When you call her dressed in abortion I laugh out loud both times. I've seen it twice

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we got to get around the podcast. Uh friend of the podcast

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm now in my head doing the math to figure out if there's any way

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: If you know anyone who might know roseburn, well, I do

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to figure this out

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: She's been in a lot of movies. Yeah

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: um

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: What's it gonna say merchandise spotlight I'm I'm at sort of a bit of a crossroads here

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right because phantom ass they blew out the merchandise. Yeah

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so it wasn't just that there were toys. There were all these weird candies. I mean they went to such different

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Directions did they not do that for this one?

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there was too much merchandise for phantom ass and they clogged the stores a little bit

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they sold well, but not as well as they thought they would

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And so they scaled it back

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Greatly for attack of the clones. Okay. And so we have is just you know, kind of your run of the male action figures

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. Um, the one thing we could sort of focus on under, you know, let's try it

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if there's any interest. I know merchandise spotlight was a fan favorite everyone's favorite segment

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: We won an obi award for it

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And it went an off-broadway fear

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We did well, I did that remember I did that one man show that was just me

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I took the transcripts of the merchandise spot like that. I wasn't well. Well, you know, I mean

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Got my money. I'm not an actor. Thank you are

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say those words but now that you've said it. Yeah, uh

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you got something for us or not? Yeah, I mean

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that happened

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I can no because I don't even know if this is fucking interesting

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We can just talk about the toys that relate to it. This is the interesting thing

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't with attack of the clones so the toys didn't sell as well as they thought they would

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And so for fan a mess or for attack of the clones, they were like we gotta step up our game

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So they decided to add in action features

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, sort of like he-man style

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right the arms move or something let every figure have a cool push button action or something to replicate the films

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That haven't been said. Uh, the star wars figures are very small

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, uh, they may have small so they could fit in a spaceship

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They could build spaceships in scale because they knew that was a big appeal

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure star wars figures are like three and three-quarter inches. Okay, okay

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas most figures of action features are taller and so they're more room to fit in the mechanics

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So they were got really ambitious with what they wanted to convey with their features

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Trying to show how the force works. Yeah, sure. Um, but they uh, were sort of limited in how they could actually pull it off

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so this is like a figure they have of anakin. I'm sorry of obiwan and supposed to replicate

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the exciting course on chase that we've just talked about. Yep

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So it comes with the little drone

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And the lightsaber I see it and the idea is that uh, he can hang off of the drone, right?

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't seem too complicated

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so the way they decide to do this is they put magnets in all the figures

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, why did they do that because they want to replicate the four so that you could put magnets with opposite ends

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And then have them push things and stuff like that and then they had like the lightsaber

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Were metal right so that you could hold the figure above it and pick it up

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But the hands were so small and there's only so small that magnets can get that all the figures end up looking like

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Like wily cody's hands after being run over with a steamroller, you know, we need to have like the flat

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the big hands

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: So like are you gonna show me this right? So they made the the drone metal so he can hold it off

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But it just looks like there's a tumor in his palm. Oh god, it's like sticking out right so he's like not flying

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like jesus like he looks like jesus christ

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like in the classic renaissance interpretation like blonde hair

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if very fair in a way. He is not in the film. This is crazy. Yeah, it's kind of funny

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like it

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So like the way they're trying to replicate him flying through the air holding onto this drone

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Is a figure with both feet on its ground on the ground

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yeah, and one arm. He doesn't have a posture of flying. Yeah, no one arm is going straight up

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: There's just one point of articulation at his shoulder. It goes straight up

[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a magnet in his hand and it holds onto the drone

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It just looks like he's getting ready to throw this thing is something looks like he's gonna throw it at someone

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a lightsaber in his other hand. Well, and then in order to make the lightsaber metal

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's way too big the lightsaber handle is huge. Yeah, it's a dildo size. Yeah. Yeah

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay. Thank you for merchandise spotlight this week Griffin

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we're gonna be able to take this one to Broadway

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The Zanwessel figure is pretty cool. I had the Zanwessel. Yeah, Zanwessel is another of those

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You can imagine there was a ton invested in merchandising and

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And then of course she you know, she only has the one scene in the movie, but there's you know

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: She looked cool. She came with a lizard face you can put on her

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know look it up. She comes with a lizard face

[01:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the quote this was a good application of magnets

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You could you could cut off her arm. Oh that is cool

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So her arm was attached through magnets

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you had a lightsaber, you could just fucking slash through it and then it would go back on

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's look up Zanwessel and I think that's the end of this episode

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Ben how much time have we done? No, we're definitely done. It's an hour 12. Oh great

[01:13:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: What are your thoughts you like the noir setup? I do

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Found it a little strange

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: That they were going in that direction. Yeah, it felt like uh

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know it felt

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like a comic book movie

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that wrong to say no no that makes sense. I agree her name is liana walshman

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And uh, she's a new zealand actress

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, she's acted alongside rose burn on on the sydney stage

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of ossees in this film and alongside joel edgerton who's in this film? Who's also in this one?

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: In the stop motion film 999

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_01]: okay, and uh, you know

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was in the pacific

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: She's around. She was in the starter wife

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I ask one one question? Yeah, uh, it was a question. I forgot to ask the beginning of this episode

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh pat mays a senator. Yep. She still has decoys

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: She still has people who are willing to give their lives to dress up as her and maybe get killed and and and she does

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Get killed and they probably lost to her in the election as as is tradition

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think in the election for senator? Yeah, I think so

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Not for queen. Nope. These are new now new new losers, but they would have to look like her right

[01:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how it works. Do you think every senator has do you think jarger has a bunch of other gungan?

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I really wish he did or is it just because she's the former queen the same way that like our

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe our secret service continues. Yeah, that could be it that could be it

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think like what if like

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Jarger was the only gungan who ran because that's the only explanation for him getting that fucking seat

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that no other gungan it makes sense? He got it as a war hero like if no gungan ever met him

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They'd think he was a genius more like a war zero

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should add not

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I just like the idea of people of different species running against jarger losing and then having to dress up as a gungan in order

[01:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: To be a decoy

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Rachel dola's all style oh god assimilating the style and culture of a gungan

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He's a frog. I love rachel's a little I can't get over this story David

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry stories where it's like initially there's this hook and you're like oh my god

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you start learning like fucked up things about her family and you're like I really wish I'd never heard about

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I just agree. I want more and more every single I find so fast. It's a terrible story

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to go on the record that she sucks. Yeah, I'll say that you can't be transracial. Sorry. I agree with that

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come at us bro. Yep

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, well, that's been

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Episode one of attack of the podcast. Oh, I'm so excited to do nine more of these. This is gonna be fun. Me too. It's gonna be great

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways is building a tweet out as Padme dola's all yes or no

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Let us know if you think merchandise follow should get 10 you or if it has no reason to live anymore

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, there are so many people who tweeted us the commentary hashtags that we made

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy still like two weeks later. So happy. I don't know why you folks listen to that

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You're crazy means a lot. How much do you make though?

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Here

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the end of the episode

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Goodbye everyone