Watch With Us, Again - Attack Of The Podcast
September 08, 201502:28:14

Watch With Us, Again - Attack Of The Podcast

Once again, Griffin and David in a very special bonus episode watched Attack of the Clones (for probably the last time) and recorded their commentary. So cue up that blu-ray and listen along with the hosts as they offer up their thoughts in real time.


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[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello. Hi. Yes, we did it. We did it. Okay, we're here after some scheduling delays. David

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Sims. Griffin Newman. Yep. Conor Allips not here. I think we promised him last time he

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_06]: was going to be here. He's not here. That was a weird week. Who should have talked about

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: that before? We should have talked about it. He'll be back. He'll be back. We'll have

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: him back. It's just me and Griffin. Pass some future guests. These commentaries,

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: it's got to be a two-man job unfortunately. It's got, because we're getting down in

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_06]: 30. Yeah, and we don't want to, Ben can't even be here because he doesn't want

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: to do this shit. No, we're opening up the hood. We're rolling up the sleeves.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The Hosley's staying in bed. Most fans won't listen to this, I think. Although we did a lot of

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: hashtag. We said that last time. We got a lot of hashtag back on the list. Part of me thinks,

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if we can do the research to back this up. Part of me thinks that might have

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: been our most popular episode. I've still had people in the last week or two telling me

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: they just listened to the commentaries. I get that too. I do, like it'll pop up in my

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: feed like, I just finally finished the commentary episode. I think people like the novelty

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: of it. I know people who watched it with the movie and I know people who watched,

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: who just listened to. This is Attack on the Podcast. Of course. Griffin did present Attack

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_03]: of the Podcast. And we're doing a commentary for episode two. This is the official season finale.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. This is the bonus, Jonas. Christmas special. We're wrapping it up. This is the

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: last time. We're going to fucking watch this movie ever again and then we get Ep 3, bro.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we can talk about that. Benz of the Sith. I just found it in my collection. I just

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_06]: hadn't noticed it before. I thought it was a bonus. I thought it was special features.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was special features. We're watching the Blu-ray. We've gone past and

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_06]: we made the mistake last time of watching the 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_06]: logo. Not this time, my friend. Which is not part of the actual time code. That's a separate

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_06]: part of the time code. So we're going to sync up starting with second one of

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the movie. Yes, now we had a little trouble getting it. So we might be one beat behind on the Fox

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Drop Roll. That's okay. Just stick with us. Okay, David, are you ready? We're going to press.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it this button? Press play. So get ready to press play. I'm ready. Ready? Yeah. Do it.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, press play. Okay. You don't want to give me a count down? Three. Oh, okay. Okay. Ian episode

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: three. Episode two. Episode one. Okay, that didn't work. Okay, it didn't work. So everyone

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: false alarm rewind. Oh my God. All right, there we go. There we go. Okay. So now we're starting.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure by a second or two is probably fine. But

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: sync up with my singing. Judging the judge. I just keep thinking about the movies we're

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_06]: going to do when we don't have Star Wars to do anymore. I'm so excited. Yeah. So many things

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and good thing they're only three Star Wars. Okay, long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Not even funny. It's also eating pizza. David's eating pizza.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: We agree. This is always exciting. Yeah, and it's always it's cool that they did it again.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I like continuity between sequel. I mean, we've argued

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: that one of the big problems with the tag of the clones is that it a lot of ways does not

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: have a lot of continuity. No, I mean, Chase Mitchell, our last guest didn't even know it

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_06]: was a sequel. Maybe Chase is being cute with us. Chase is a cute possibly our cutest guy.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going through the guy very, very. Chase is a cutie. But we only had cute guests.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true. Yeah. I mean, you know, like Rachel Lang's so cute. Oh my God. A real cute.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_03]: JD's a cute drink of water. Yeah. A little more, you know,

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_06]: something, you know, it's sort of so waters run deep with him. Oh yeah. There's a lot going on. Oh

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah. We're talking over the really big Santa Ramadalla army of their public. Galactic sanitary

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: right. Okay. Creating army of their public to assist the overwhelm Jedi. God, I wish they

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: over they played up the overwhelm thing. I want to see the beleaguered Jedi movie. Well,

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see like like like Glengarry Glenrall. So they're only all yeah. It's raining out.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_06]: We got to bring in 10 more younglings this month. So wow. Well, they do kind of try to

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_06]: mention it as like, you know, Mace Windu and Yoda being like,

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_03]: having not to beat the drum over and over again. But it's like, you know, the classic like show

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: don't tell thing. Like these movies, they tell you things. They never show you through action.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very true. These characters going through emotional crises. I want to start with hear

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: them say planetally like look at these dorks. These guys are so dorky. All right. So I want to say

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah, start off. Remember we talked about it once before, but one of our listeners made a silent

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_06]: edit of the first like 20 or good. I have watched it like 10 times and shown it to all of my

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: friends and all my friends are like, wow, this is cool. Yeah. And I feel like I didn't give him

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: enough of a shout out the first because you asked me about it and I hadn't watched all of

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: the extra just shown it to us. I just thought was that he should do the whole movie.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: He should do the whole movie because he obviously has made some serious edits in that and

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_06]: like if he could get this movie down to like an hour 20, silent, no dialogue. I think it'd be great.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Limited title cards, limited title cards that are mostly kind of cute.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like only only the things that cannot be conveyed through action. The performances are

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, weirdly we talked about this. The performances work better silently. Oh yeah,

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: so much better. And everything's so overstated because everyone's so uncomfortable that they

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: all read physically better than they read emotionally. Yeah. And then yeah, right.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And they've got such elaborate costumes and looks. But the design looks better.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this sequence. It's so sterile. Oh, it's worse. But I would argue,

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, with all the stuff JD was talking about. Man, that was never so that when we were recording

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and I was like, is this boring? Like he's talking a lot. It's kind of fun to listen back to it's not

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_06]: our best one. I've gotten a lot of really strong. No, no, no, I think it's just interesting to

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: have him very clearly layout like, you know why you think this looks weird? You're right. And

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: here's why. And JD just fucking knows everything. Yeah, well, he does. JD is amazing. He's crazy.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: He's a computer. And he's just but then again, he was like texting us at one in the morning

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_06]: telling us to watch the bachelor. Like he has his weird sort of like sink holes where he's like,

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: don't you get this is fascinating and we're I'm just like, yeah, I guess so. But there's a lot of

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_06]: tech. So that's where sometimes shares insane opinions. He talks about it like you saying

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_06]: like, you got to watch like the Americans are true detect, you know, he's saying it like it's

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_03]: well, yeah, what? And it's like, there's such a white golf because the things that JD

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_03]: recommends are either like, it's like very, very high brow, very obscure, you know, it's like deep

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: cut like trauma or like Mondo cult movies. Like you need to see or like very obscure kind of like

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: high brow Eastern European art films or or it's like the Ernest movies.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Or basically like kind of like children's entertainment of his lifetime that does not

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_06]: have like a mass market chain to it but has kind of a weird individual. Like Ernest movies,

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_06]: like the Muppets and all this sort of there's the other reality show he loves Utopia. Well,

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_06]: that was kind of an interesting. Yeah. All right. So wait, we're not talking about the movie.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about meeting here. It is overwhelmed. There's there's a guy who looks

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: like Wald our buddy from Phantom Metis. Oh yeah. He was a grown up version. Kid Fisto in the

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: background. Kid Fisto is a great design. Great design which they could have had him

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_06]: even say a word. He's he is cool. Yeah. He kind of looks like an alien from Men in Black.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_06]: With the big eyes and the tentacles. You know, he looks like he looks like the grown up version

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_06]: of the baby. Now that's what I'm thinking of. This is Padme Dole's all. This is the

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_06]: infamous Padme Dole's all scene. Yes. Oh wait, I need to turn on the subtitles.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Then look at how it looks. It's the hair of being a hair is like kinky as

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: shit. The Rose Byrne looking so uncomfortable. Really a disaster.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Kaede Madi. His head is such a wiener. It's so funny. I always forget this, but I want to

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: remember it. Kaede Madi that dude. That's the voice of Yukon Ray. Yeah. So we should hold

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_06]: him responsible for everything. Yeah. Her hair when her hair is like this. Yeah. Okay.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Turn the subtitles on. I'm sorry. I'm like looking up how to do it.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You try to avoid. Because I don't want to pause the movie by mistake.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the very opening of the movie is like you see cool spaceships and something blows

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: up. There's an explosion. And then the most like fucking like cold fish boring boardroom conversation.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know? Yeah. It's not that I don't like dialogue. It's just that like look at look how stilted

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_06]: and stayed everything is. Well, and the thing we're noticing where it looks like they're

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_06]: standing in front not of a blue screen but literally of a projection like they're lit wrong.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. The Rose Byrne is looking just in the wrong direction. Yes. In every take.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Because she's like fucking like second movie or something. I listened to her episode WTF.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_02]: She had only done like independent Australian film up until this point, you know? So they're

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: like fucking in a real house, you know, working with real actors. Look at these colors. It's

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: insane. And there's just like no depth. Like everything looks really flat. It's like the

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: effect that the Wachowskis purposefully strove for in Speed Racer where they want

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: to look like a cartoon. This looks like that by accident. We're like right here. They're in

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: the floating elevator and they're sitting in front of the window. There's no sense that they're moving.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but that just looks like just a screen behind them. That doesn't look like there's

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: a plane of glass and then behind that is a street and behind that is a building.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not intentional. Look at how bad his fake beard is, right? Yeah, you're right. Right.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really bad because you can see the soul patches like a totally separate piece. Yeah.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_06]: This was it looks like a stage beard. He looks like a Lawrence Olivier, you know, like,

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah, we should speak about that briefly. Look at this. Look how horrible his walking

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: is. Now you understand why Jar Jar looks the way he does in episode one because giving him a cloak.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Just like more unrealistic.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So like, I think it would have been even better though if Jar Jar had had to get

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: right in the elevator and been like, I have a meeting to go to like just like to really hammer

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_06]: home like he's not in this movie guys. I'm sorry. You're not gonna see me again. I'm busy.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so busy this week. I got a full docket of appointments. I just want to say hi very

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: briefly and then I'll be out of your hair for the next week. What's the timeline this week?

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It's about a week, right? That's a good question. If that might be five days. That's crazy.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_06]: That's true. It's never thought about that. And Phenomenos too is also like five days.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Really? Look at this. She's smiling and she's dull as all and so hard right now.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So is it? I can't believe I ever fought you on that. Yeah, right. I know. You thought I

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: was projecting my history of racial complications on this podcast. This guy sucks. This guy sucks.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: This guy's the worst. What's his name? Fucking I patch. What's his name?

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, him in Cartridge. That guy's in Tyfo. Yeah. Yeah. He's a horrible card to get.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He really is. He's one of the least fun cards. Okay. So look,

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: McGregor's beer is totally normal here. Right now it's real, which makes me think that

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: elevator scene was right at the start. No. Oh, you think it was at the end they were

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_06]: just like, oh, we need some exposition. I think it was like year later reshoots.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was off filming Mulan Rouge was clean cut. George Porgy comes in as like,

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I need you for reshoots. I need more humor in the movie. Let's add some more laughers.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, what a dead end being really annoying. He's being so immediately treading all over Obi-Wan

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_06]: speed for no good reason. Yeah. And they had a fun light banter in the last scene.

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Now suddenly they're just like at each other's throats. And no one seemed worried.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy that this meeting is occurring like 40 minutes after one of her handmade ends was blown

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_06]: up in front of her. Yes. Like there's basically like brain matter still on her draft. That fucking

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: moment when Jar Jar looks at the camera and smiles is insane. That is un- It's

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: on Jar Jar. Yeah. George who he hasn't seen in like six years. This is the kind of conversation

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: you've had with someone you have with someone you haven't spoken to. Why? Why haven't they hung out?

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_06]: George already. No, he up all shirt. George Arnand can wind up but like any of them.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. I don't know. Because it was a bad time. They don't want to like relive that.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but. George is probably calling every weekend being like, oh, remember? No.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, Zamwessle she's a change. Like all of that was removed in this island cut.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Yes, it was. The silent cut goes right to this. Yeah, which is perfect. Which is much better.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And also as much as I don't love the visuals. I like this better.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I do. I like the color. You know, it's okay. I do too. This set is just one of the worst sets.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Well, here's a thing I would say that the silent cut corrects is I find the artificiality

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: of it the creakiness of the visuals. I almost say because I like a certain height and

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: artificiality when done well and done consciously. Sure. But the creakiness of the visuals,

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I find more acceptable in black and white which is by nature a more unreal. Totally medium.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it feels dreamlike. Absolutely. And I'm not going to the podcast. Have you ever

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_06]: listened to you must remember this? Yes, I love the best. So good love. I'm binging on it now.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I did the Manson like thing first. I'm behind on Manson. I'm like three behind. I listened to all

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_06]: of that and then I went back to the beginning and around just so now I'm just listening to an episode

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_06]: about Raquel Welch. Yes. So I'm sort of but you know, the way she talks about it's a great podcast

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_06]: posted by Queen of Longworth. Excellent. Please listen to it about silent movies and like

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_06]: what if she gets a huge bump from this crazy. Yeah. I just they've been out there. It's

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_06]: the best. You must remember this. Oh yeah, silent movies and you know how everyone had this

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_06]: makeup caked on them because the lighting was so bad and like acting had to be so over the

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, yeah, you forgive a lot of stuff. You forgive a lot of it. And then talk about

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: this where they're all overly made up and the colors are weird. But the one thing you can

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: say for the way this film is they are really made up. Wow. It is very, very high contrast.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. It's very contrast in a way that benefits from black and white. I mean look

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: at the use of shadows here. It looks weird when there are 17,000 different colors on screen.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's also weird that it's not so loud. Sorry, carry on. When you reduce it to gray scale, those

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_06]: shadows are actually kind of moody and effective. Chris is that I forget his name?

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Did he cut? Yeah, I think it's Chris. I forget his last name.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Getting now. But anyway, look it up. No, I want to have a big one. We'll plug it on.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_06]: He's he's. Yeah, look at the Sonic cut. But anyway, he did a great job. But he did an amazing

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_06]: job. One thing that annoys me plot wise, because we should stop talking about visuals because

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_06]: we've done that so much. RTT two is a room. Yeah, we're in the RTT robot. Is that what you just

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_06]: said? As a room guard. Always as a room. A room guard. Oh, fuck. What was it? Oh yeah, plot wise.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this and I hate this in so many other things like in Harry Potter. Yeah, where Anakin's

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_06]: like, I've been having these bad dreams and like, look, it's just a dream. And it's like,

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_06]: well, not really. It's the logic of this world dictates that the dreams are often prophecies.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So maybe you should listen to him and it's annoying. Oh, that was a deleted scene

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: that we forgot to talk about in the chase episode. There's go ahead in the delete scenes.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: There are like two more deleted scenes where he has nightmares. Oh yeah, that's right. So that

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: when he has the one nightmare, they're back. Colin M Scott Colin, right? He's Colin

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: it quits on Colin it quits on Trader two else. Yes, Colin M Scott. Thank you so much.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You're the fucking best. Yeah, oh, he's the best. Yeah. So you're the worms are climbing up. So let's

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: keep track of things that are the fucking best. Colin, you must remember this running tally.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What I was going to say is in this film, he's saying, I don't know, I'm having weird dreams

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_03]: like at the very beginning, right? Right. And then an hour and 30 minutes later,

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: he wakes up from a nightmare and he's like, Padme, I got to go see my mom. And it feels weird.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: There were two deleted scenes that were cut that are shitty on their own.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But at least showed that the dream thing is a recurring thing and the mom thinks coming back

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: in so that decision seems less out of the blue. Right? Maybe they'll return to that in episode

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_06]: three and it won't be a problem there at all. Well, you just imagine George in the editing

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: room, it's a catch 22. And it's like, okay, so these scenes movie is too long. The movie is

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_03]: final cut is too long. So right now, these scenes on their own are garbage. I either cut them every

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: scene that is cut is so bad. Right? And make the movie less boring on a minute to minute basis

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: by cutting this. I make other developments later on less. Now, I should say this is according

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_06]: to you at least the beginning of this podcast, your favorite part, like all this right 30

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_06]: minutes. I don't like it anymore. The chase scene and the yeah, it's kind of our

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_06]: near rain here. We're going to see some all those JD pointed out. I miss that.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I know it's crazy because we don't care. He's with another potter. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's with

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: his with another one of them. My camera. Which one Jedi poob? Yeah, that's insane. It's like a close

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't because he's isn't wearing the goggles and he's got a smart right.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_06]: He looks very dignified for a subalba. Jesus Christ, a ball.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And here I mean really the worst assassin. Yeah, because like

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_06]: all she does is load the fucking worms into a canister. Yeah.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: She's got a clear shot. Oh yeah. Clear shot. Yeah.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I mean what's her goal? I don't know. Maybe she made the shot. I would shoot him rather than

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: shoot the droid that she paid for. That's her own property. I see. Maybe right. Maybe she wants

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_06]: to destroy the evidence. That's her. Yeah, I can see that. Oh, I mean I love this by the way.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And it can so good and maneuver so well. And then at the last second Obi-Wan lands in

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_06]: the back like rather than in the seat, like why not just have him land in the seat? They're

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: that shot of him falling is like there's no force to it. It's no pun intended. It's clearly just

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like he's just being like you're on a chair holding his arms out and they're blowing the fan.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_07]: God, it's so annoying. Okay, let's talk about that line for a second.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Really? The most labored and they're driving around. They should be screaming at each other's

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: ears. If you spend as much time practicing your saber techniques, no, no, your your

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: saber techniques as your wits, you'd be, you know, as as great a fighter as great a swordsman

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_03]: as Master Yoda is what he said. Right? Now to your point about they should be yelling right here,

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_03]: they said in one of the behind the scenes documentaries that they had to ADR all this

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: dialogue because they had so many fans. Right. Makes sense. Shooting at Christian

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: St. and McGregor. Right. So all this dialogue was ADR so it'd be so easy for them to

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_03]: in post go, Hey, remember how it was really loud when we were filming and we couldn't hear you?

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Right. Speak at that. Yeah, have them shout and instead they're just like, well, you know,

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think. All right. Do you have a problem with that line? Yes, I do. It's horrible.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Well, it's a terrible piece of writing. But beyond that, and it's beyond like any

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_06]: language, no one speaks like that. No one. No one speaks like that.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Beyond that, that line implies if you spend as much time practicing your saber technique

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: as you do your wit. Right. It implies that he's funny. It implies that he's funny,

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: which is really outrageous. Not just like, oh, you're a little funny. It implies that he's so funny

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_03]: that if he committed to practicing his lightsaber technique in the same way he sits down and

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: cracks jokes, he goes to open mics and he just fucking grinds and works. What do you

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: think open mics are like in the car or something? So here's, I don't know, this is like a

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: kernel of idea. I don't know what I got here yet. You know when you got like a Jedi

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: master and he's rotting your ass real hard. It's like, I don't know what am I supposed to do?

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I fucking, you know, force myself to work harder. I don't, that's not something,

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_03]: there's something there. I don't have it yet. I'm just trying to work on my wit as

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: far as I do my lightsaber technique. That's interesting. I hadn't noticed that line

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Nanakon said before. That was very funny. No, no, the thing where he's like, look,

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I want this guy to die. Like we should, we should, I want to find out what he's about.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's a, he's being smart. I don't know. It doesn't matter. I hate this. I hate her.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_06]: She can do the thing where she changes her face for no reason.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's coming up.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Changes like, not just yet. I think it's when they're on.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It is at a totally random. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's totally random.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just amazing. It's like, it's just non-voluntary.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: He's going to do the thing now. That was some shortcut.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really annoying that they're saying he as well. Even though you get, obviously,

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_06]: they don't know who it is yet. Come on. But she presents his female and like,

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_06]: even from a distance, like do we need to carry that into the Star Wars universe?

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_06]: This like, oh, it's an assassin. It must be a guy.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it feels like they're doing that as setup for a joke to be like, he's a she.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah. Right. Which they do do. And then he's like, and she's

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_06]: double take a changeling. Yeah. But is it that surprising?

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: A should we not? I mean, David in their defense, it was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That's not a good defense just because they have that one piece of text.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_06]: This is very clearly the future. It's a period piece.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a foreign film. I think she's about to do it.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Fuck when did she do it? I kind of like the noise, the Ben Burt noise.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It's sort of whale noises. So good. Yeah. Yeah, that that thing.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. She looks over her shoulder and just changes basically like, yeah,

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_06]: she puts her head over her right shoulder. Does it again? Well, there's no rhyme or reason

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_03]: for why it happens in that one more. And so this is the first life that's fun when he's just

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: knocking around. Yeah.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm catch. Isn't it puts it in the seat.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a bad place to put it is just like on the seat. You're just on the seat in a

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: car. Yeah. Put it in the glove compartment or something.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It's also annoying that Anakin's like, look, I don't want this lady to fry like,

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_06]: let's find out what she knows. So I'm going to jump on her car and swing the lights.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_06]: They were wildly through the sunroof. That'll work. You know what else is annoying?

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_06]: This whole movie. Yeah. Yeah. This whole movie. Yeah.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Whole movie is pretty annoying. It's just a the movie has a lot writing on introducing you

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_06]: to Anakin. God, that looked really bad. Really? That looked really like the PlayStation Game wipe out.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember that game? Yeah. Anyway, you know, movies like it's giving you an it's a whole new

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_06]: character basically. Like it's got a lot going on. It's a really it's right off to the worst

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: foot. Yeah, it is. It is a whole new character. If you're seeing it and there's a big difference

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_03]: between who someone is when they're 19, who someone is when they're like eight.

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, right. And who someone is when they're a slave and who someone is when

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: they're a fucking Jedi and to wildly different actors. You can't presume audience empathy.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Already, I think it's dangerous for sequels to walk and just go, well, you love these characters

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_03]: so you love them still. You do have to do a little a little like lifting to realign your

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_03]: audience with your characters in a sequel, let alone a character that's changed this much

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: from the last time we saw him. There's nothing in common with the little boy we saw

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and hated in the last film. That's true. Did you see that fake beard again? Yep, right?

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It looks like straw is going to say she went in there and he says he went in there to hide.

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan like won't drop this. And not to like not to be this binary,

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_02]: but she looks like a lady even with the even with the cloak.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, now the veil. That's the word I was looking for. Yeah, but she's like,

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: we're just got a nice like like little tiny little

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_06]: purple. Good. All right. So let's go to sports. We've got racing. We've got some soccer

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_06]: soccer on wheels. Sort of like Olympic with like trolls like sort of Olympic sprinter

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Olympic trolls. The weird amount of humans in this bar,

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_03]: but like humans that all are dressed and kind of like an alternative way. Right.

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Because we've seen like what the standard fashion is on Coruscant and we're supposed to believe that

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: like, okay, we're in midtown like Coruscant. They spent a ton of time on this ship.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_06]: There was Akmebek in years. I want these back and now.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't want to say that. Oh, God, what a good performance. Best supporting actor.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I really don't know what you're talking about. Did you watch that super cut that

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: guy did where it was like all the different characters at the bar?

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It went viral this week. Nope. This guy took like

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You mean like in many movies throughout? Yeah, he took like 20 different movies

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: where there's a key scene in a bar and cut them together to make it look like it's all

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: the same characters in the same bar, but he used this as the like spine of it. So it

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: starts with them walking in here. The idea is the bar scenes are shot kind of similarly

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and often have a similar color palette to this, which is like, you know, heavy reds and purples.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And so they use like this Saturday Night Fever, Scarface, Carlitos Way, the first Terminator when

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_03]: he goes into the Techno-R. It's a really, really sharp piece of editing. And it's interesting.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It makes you think about film construction because you can kind of like, it's all about

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: having Anakin look off in one direction, which in this movie is like a Zandwaan. Right. Right. And

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: if they cut back to the Terminator looking, it feels like they're in the same scene. No, I got it.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Just the color just a little bit. Kind of any two movies can be the same movie.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And now back to a change line. But the point is like every other movie they use in that

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: is a movie that's not only like was successful, but is like kind of beloved and iconic. And

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: specifically the bar scene was iconic. And most people who don't host a podcast about Attack the

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Clones, I think would be hard pressed to remember that there was a bar scene in Attack of the Clones.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like that you'll be the death of me line. Some people, I don't know. Yeah.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Here we are in the Jedi Council. All right. Little poop chairs.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Toilet chairs. Let's see who we can notice. Blue Clown. Blue Clown and the Erie Mooney.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Who's that guy with the tentacles?

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know who he is.

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like the yogi.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Who's that pterodactyl guy?

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_03]: God, I don't know. I don't know where he is. He's got a dumb name.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, I mean, I knew all these people. I did earlier say that I could name probably any

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_03]: background character. No, some of them were. But some of them, I've looked all of them up.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I think in Phantom Menace we could.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom Menace, I think so, yeah.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: That's Yoda. I know that character's name. That's Yoda.

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's Yoda sitting on the toilet chair. Yep.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I just forgot that Coyote Mundi has a ponytail.

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_06]: He has a ponytail and he has some cowboy boots.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But it doesn't look like he has roots on the rest of his head.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it doesn't look like hair.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It just grows out of the ponytail spot on his head.

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like on the back of the tip of his penis head.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_03]: E. McDymart is really good in this.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: He is. I just wish there was more of him. He kind of gets like the same amount of

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_06]: screen time as devoted to him and Count Dooku combined.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And so he's only really here at the beginning, right? This is his last scene.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. No, that's not true. He has like a scene in the Senate.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. The two of them are doing the same kind of thing. They're bringing the right level of like

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: theatricality.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Absolutely.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Tongue and cheek sort of like.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, this set is so horrible.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just really design.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And then this set is horrible.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: See look.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And he did those three.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: That was like a matte painting.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, those three people in the foreground who are just,

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: they're talking, we're clearly shot at completely different time.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it just feels like they copy pasted them into the corner,

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: which you know is what they did.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to remember if this like, but this,

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_06]: see I like that it's a matte painting behind kind of,

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_06]: but it doesn't work with the way that foreground.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_03]: The way that pains usually work is they build this set out to a degree and then the map

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: painting continues it from there.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: If it's all fucking matte painting,

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: it just looks like someone standing in front of a painting.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah. Well, it's a problem that we just noticed before.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_06]: We really need to stop harping on it because when they get it,

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah, and we'll never put it any better than JD did.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the, I lost that touch with their putting in the window.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty cool.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen that before.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I never noticed that before.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd seen this movie for 45.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Representative Binks?

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I come senator though, right?

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Or does he only become senator once I'm a dollar's on Lee?

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't fucking know.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Georgia, how do I put this?

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to hold you up, but um, maybe.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Georgia, I already regret my decision.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: The representative Binks makes more sense because we brought this up.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: She's the senator of Naboo.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He also lives in Naboo.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He just lives in a different part in Naboo.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He does.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He represents different race.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like if DeBlasio was the mayor of New York and I deemed myself the mayor of Little Italy.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't live in Little Italy.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but I could run.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Hillary didn't live in New York.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: She was our senator.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You mad about that?

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Furious.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Still to this day.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Carpabagger.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_06]: You gotta live in a place.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I really hate this piece of luggage on the bed.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Dumb.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like sharper image per stone shape.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have to look.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't have to look.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Future look.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it doesn't look futuristic at all.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_06]: What she's wearing is out of control stupid.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_06]: He's just showing off.

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_06]: This is like him just like, uh, like pulling a stick out for her.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's especially out of control stupid when you think that she's about to travel.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Like.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what do you wear on?

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Is this like her post shower pre lunch dress?

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that what it is?

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That metal thing she has in her hair is the equivalent of her wrapping the towel around her.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like look at this.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what do you, what do you wear when you're on an airplane?

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_06]: How do you dress?

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_06]: What's your?

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I try to just, yeah, comfortably.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I never get those people who try to dress up nice for a plane.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, I think that's, that's a bygonee era.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, people would like wear suits and get on the plane now.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_06]: No, you want to wear like your radius baggy is like softest clothing.

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I'm gonna feel.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Cause you're gonna sweat into it.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I've worn so much on planes.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like when I get out, I'm going to go back to where I get off the plane.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to get in the shower and get off the clothes.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I want clothes that I'm not going to go.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of like going to the barber.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, you save your best shirt for like a good day of the week.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this shirt, I love this shirt.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_03]: The plane, you go, these are the clothes I wouldn't want to wear any other day.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Cause you're going to suffer the whole day.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_03]: The stuff, the grease stains on it.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_06]: What she's saying is makes her feel uncomfortable.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_03]: His, the way he looks at it.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He's fucking leering.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the way he looks at it.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's his creepy lear eyes.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Dumb movie.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Dumb movie.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate this one.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bad movie.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I kind of like that transport ship.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I do too.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_06]: That space tram.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of similar to the thing they had in uh, age of Ultron.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Crazy how age of Ultron is just now like dead.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Last time we were recording this, it had just come out.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And now everyone's just like, yeah.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's a good movie.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I think people need to chill out.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, and Roseburn is just like, just let me please pay attention to me.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, but this is how you learn.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_06]: It's how she learned to look.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_06]: She could make a mistake in clones because it's clones.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It is crazy.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like age of Ultron is already sort of like swept under the rug and it is like

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: the ninth highest grossing movie of all time.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_06]: People are like dismissing it as a failure and I feel like...

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It is.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a, it's a disappointment that it made $200 million less than the first one.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: But the first one was the

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The first one was the outlier.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Even within the Marvel strictures, like even with the movies that came after the first one,

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_06]: the first one is an outlier.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's an outlier in a similar way to Jurassic World where people were like,

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_06]: like, didn't think it was going to be this big a hit.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes things just catch a weird wave.

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Age of Ultron came out the worst time because they remember it had to compete with like

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Furious 7.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_06]: The boxing match and Furious 7.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh right.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like there was like a lot of like stuff that depressed the opening weekend.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I know you like Age of Ultron and Defend it heartily.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You would not contend as good as the first one.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_03]: No, definitely not.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a magic to the first move.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_06]: There is.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't deny that.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_06]: But I also think that like, I have a feeling we're going to look back and be like,

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_06]: oh yeah, you know, Age of Ultron was actually great.

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, and maybe that was an, I don't know.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But in terms of why things catch the flow,

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: in terms of why things catch box office fire and why they don't,

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_03]: you can like analyze it.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But like Jurassic World was just like, it was kind of the right movie at the right time.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, totally.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's a shitty movie, but it's like,

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_03]: they wanted a dinosaur movie and the soldier was at an all-time high for the original.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Enough time has passed to be forgot that the sequels were shitty, you know,

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_03]: like everyone was going into in the right way and they'll never be able to replicate the

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_03]: excitement the Avengers of were actually putting all these characters in the same movie.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_03]: No, of course.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And it works.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe they can pull something off at three.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think they'll ever have the same power.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_06]: They did the first time.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Probably not.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I remember my buddy Sam would,

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: when like Avengers was in development, would just constantly say,

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I refuse to believe that movie is being made.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I felt the same way.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And it went into production and he went,

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: something's going to go wrong.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to shut it down.

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_06]: It did feel like it was like, come on, like,

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_06]: how are you going to get all these people in but.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: The trailers route, he said,

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: it's going to catch on fire.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to lose every print.

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The movie won't exist.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, you're talking over here.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Dexter Jackson, my favorite guy.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_06]: He's not great.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: This is analysis, Troy.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It's only focus on symbols.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I still can't figure out what his accent is.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's so hard to place.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we just stop.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It's quite a question over you on poses there.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_06]: For which could think none of us would be here.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're not just in the back of his head.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like he's got like dreadlocks.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_06]: He's got like dreadlocks.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But they're like tied together with like a rubber band.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But he's got the braids on like this side.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got like four separate dreadlocks.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't like this.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It looks bad.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the best.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This guy is like a Sibulba creature.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, he's a dog.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Dexter Jackson, the design is great.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And the actual quality of the animation is terrible.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really bad.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's PlayStation 1.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The design is fine.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Pocket book is.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Love it.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Must have.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I just I don't like this scene because Obi-Wan is clearly not reacting to anything.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And he just sort of like I mean that's kind of creepy when Dexter Jackson is like

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_06]: pocketbook.

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I know we want to just kind of like thinly smile.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Because he didn't know how they were going to animate it.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_06]: He didn't fucking know.

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Chacaste Niu.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Chacaste Niu is just like Camino I've never heard of it.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you're talking about.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Dooku a generous lover.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: What were you saying?

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't get how if a fucking diner owner has heard of Camino,

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_06]: this lady is like no.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what that is.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Like the word means nothing to me.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So condescending.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I hate to say it but if the system you're looking for is in our library then it doesn't exist.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: She's.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: She and states it again.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It does not exist.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Now she tends to this little boy.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And the general library is a bit of a bummer too.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_06]: There's just no dust in this world, you know.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the problem.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_06]: There's no like.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I want grit.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I want history.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I want to sense a history.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything looks like it just opened.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, everything looks yes.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I have been getting a little bit back into Harry Potter because there was a story about Harry Potter.

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, can I just point out quickly that the in brackets the subtel said raspberries.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yeah for R2D2 blowing a raspberry.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I would never describe it as like R2D2 blows a raspberry.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So you just sort of like buzzes at people.

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's like that's this version of raspberries.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_06]: First mention of love being foreign.

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Attachment is forbidden.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_03]: This backs up the point that I made in our last episode.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Compassion which I was to find is unconventional love.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Central to Jedi's life is forbidden.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The point I made was.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_03]: He's saying it's not forbidden.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He's saying compassion is allowed.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're allowed to fuck around.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You're allowed to get nasty.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we were talking about.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean I think that's what he means when he sort of says attachment is forbidden and then

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of smiles at her like, he might as well be saying like look.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_06]: No strings attached.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_06]: He's giving a preview of what's coming up in her career.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: God, it just looks like shit.

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's my point.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Sex is not forbidden for the Jedi.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_06]: We must not presume that Jedi's are virgins.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_06]: How could sex be disallowed when it's an alien galaxy?

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, there must be species that like need sex to live or whatever.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah and we also all know that Pluclun is a fucking horn dog.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_03]: That's hot.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: If I can't stop sticking his cock a rojatik in anything that moves.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_06]: This scene is weird.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Love it.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_06]: You like this scene?

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_06]: It's interesting.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you watch the behind the scenes thing about this?

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think so.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The reason why a couple of the kids are CGI as if they have to come.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Is it because George Lucas just thought they were too ugly?

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's because he wanted alien kids but they didn't want to make the kids sit in the makeup.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, I mean that makes sense for such a small scene.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I just love that she was like, you know, unfortunately we had to do all

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_03]: this digital effects for this sequence because the kids couldn't sit in the

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_03]: makeup chance like, oh God, that must hurt George so much to have to do these digital

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_03]: effects.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He really hates that.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But you're pulling out his teeth telling him George are going to have to go digital.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Gravity silhouette remains.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about Yoda?

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I like, you think that's a stopper line?

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Gravity silhouette remains.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_06]: It's sort of an interesting line but like it's not represented here.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just a bunch of lights and he's just kind of jabbing his finger at whatever.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Did I tell you I used to have an action figure of the little Jedi kids?

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It was a pack.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_03]: We haven't done toys.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because you know, I did more research to back this up.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: There was like a big thing about how much they scaled back the merchandising for Attack of

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_03]: the Clones because they overproduced your fandom.

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Did they pump it back?

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, like will there be toy stuff for Avenger the Sith?

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, they pumped it way back up.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it makes sense.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we're going to have a good merchandise spotlight for this.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Movie because it didn't make as much money.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they were just like, let's just lay low with this one.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This one they were just trying to get by.

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, they were trying to...

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the middle one.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't really have a beginning or an end.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not that good.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's be honest.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a sophomore year.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is just get through it.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Next year is going to be hard.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then they were just...

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Teeners are going to be a breeze.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we got it.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_06]: We don't want it.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Freshman Year's Introduction.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_06]: It is Yoda's just like, yo, yeah, great.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all meditate on that.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Meditate on what?

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_06]: On the fact that someone deleted some shit from the Jedi.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Not only on these meditation, you just hire a guy, look into it.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They have private investigators in this world.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: This isn't a boo.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But I had a little action figure set that was Yoda on the floating chair

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and then the little Jedi boy.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I just let the Jedi kids rule.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, because you want to be a Jedi kid.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to be a little Jedi kid.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Jesus had me.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure I was ready.

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_03]: To be the queen of planets, our levels.

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_06]: It seemed fine.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_06]: It's hard to know.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Can I have a slice of pizza?

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, of course.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_06]: There you go.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep, just, you know, you'll be good.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll be fine.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we're in my bedroom right now.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Where the magic happens?

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Eating pizza.

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Watching clones.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Watching some clones.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_06]: God, I'm going to have to watch the third one.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But not next week, right?

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Next week we're doing Fantastic Four.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: We should announce that right here.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's just acknowledge that.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Next week we're doing the podcastic too.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: That's your name for it.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_06]: So am I going to have to watch every Fantastic Four movie?

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if we have to watch them.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_06]: The Corman one is on YouTube.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you seen it before?

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I've ever sat through the entire thing.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I've seen lots of people.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's worth watching.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'm going to re-watch all of them.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a lot of thoughts prepared.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to think you should re-watch the Tim Story ones though,

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_06]: because there's a lot of interesting.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll do it then.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, even though they're bad.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's save our thoughts.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's not even talk about them here though,

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_03]: because I got one.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean mostly inspired, but you finally saw the Trank movie.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to tell you anything about what I thought.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_03]: But you kind of liked it, can you?

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but my thoughts are complex.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We're doing the podcastic too.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about the entire failed history

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_03]: of representing those characters on screen.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_06]: This is that is a bitch move where she shuts him down.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, he's not Jedi.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a Padwan learner.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Apprentice, right?

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it apprentice?

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he not Padwan anymore?

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it apprentice?

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He is a Padwan.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you a Padwan until you're Jedi?

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was a Padwan.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_06]: You're a youngling first, and you're a Padwan.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_06]: The Padwans have the braids.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe the younglings are always Padwan.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_06]: If you have the braid, you're a Padwan.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So Padwan is just anything on the path to becoming a Jedi.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the umbrella term that contains youngling, apprentice.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they're a knight, I think.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a cool ship.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I do like that thing that there's the ring

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: that has the extra thrust.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Why does he leave?

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is he from the logic perspective?

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's just lazy to come back, pick it up later.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And this droids a basic bitch.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's acknowledge that.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_03]: What's this guy's name, R5?

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's R4.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Piece of shit.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So lame.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_06]: He's got a smart red paint job, but other than that.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Landing on Kamino.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Another thing, like Carl or some, it's traffic.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_06]: In Kamino, it's rain.

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the rain plan.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_06]: There's always background detail.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Carl's in the traffic plan.

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Where it's like, see, look at this landscape we built.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's like, well, okay, but it really, it's like two things.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the background planet and then the boring set.

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I also choose your battles wisely.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: See, I gotta, I know I keep on harping on this.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I think these creatures look really good.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think these hold up.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's decent character animation.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just so impureated by the fact that he walks in a door.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_06]: One door.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, oh yeah, the leader of the planet

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_06]: is in this next room.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And does like an inquisitive just walks in and goes, hey, how's it going?

[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you're expected.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, hello.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's not like, oh good.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, what?

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, he just landed on a platform on a planet.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She says, we've been waiting for you.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like there was an appointment for this day at this time.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What a shit set.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: The coincident was locked in on.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what a set.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a set.

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_03]: This is you and McGregor just standing in a bathroom

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and then they just painted a thing around him.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Lama.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think even the mouth movements on these are better than like any of the other digital creatures.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I think they're nice in design.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I like the texture of the skin.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it actually holds up.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I love how Obi-Wan.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's supposed to play cool and kind of listen right now.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_06]: But barely he's like, okay.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Again with this fucking Cifo DS guy.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, he can't.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Also this thing where he's like, isn't he still in?

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Do we have like Google?

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_06]: They can't look up like who's on the Jedi Council these days.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's a really good question.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Does the planet Camino know that other plants don't know that Camino exists anymore?

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Are they just like, we don't know when stopping by anymore?

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, clumb business has been dead except for that one contract we got to

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_06]: provide an army for the entire galaxy.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank God that came up.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Imagine being the head of the Camino Tourism Board and just being like,

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to tell.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We're putting ads out there.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_03]: No one's coming.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_06]: We built a new Ramada.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's a good question though.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Is it that has Camino been deleted from the Jedi archives?

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Is the Jedi archive like the archive everyone uses?

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And if he goes to like the trade federation archive,

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_06]: they're like, you can be over here.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And like, that's a great question.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Does no one just think like, hey, you know,

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_06]: progress is going on the clones.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Great.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_06]: In a year.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Why don't you give Cypher Diaz a call?

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Just tell him everything's good.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at the shot.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_06]: This is a shot with no digital effects.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Look how nice it looks.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Looks great.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This like real shit.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We're on the move.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Water.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's wonderful.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The light reflects off of it.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_06]: This is some estate in Italy or Sardinia or whatever the fuck.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What was I about to say about Camino?

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, not to diminish my main man Dexter Jettster.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But if he knows about Camino,

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_03]: then fucking other people know about Camino.

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So what are you saying?

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_04]: What gets around?

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Camino?

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a planet.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It's by the something mays, Rishi mays.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_06]: They make clones.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_06]: They're cloners.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, did you cost me if you heard of Camino?

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_06]: No, it doesn't exist.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It must not exist.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the sand.

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you heard of New York?

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's down the east coast.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_03]: There bankers there.

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_03]: They make bank.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine an entire region here?

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_06]: You're missing the sand sequence.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm smooth.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm touching in hand.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen so many times.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the joke.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I like Trump the volume.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the joke.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I like Johnny Williams.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll gain each other looking longingly,

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_03]: sans rough and smooth, not like you.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, I don't, I mean,

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess she moisturizes a lot.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_03]: They really, they really work on this.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the human body.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Judging the judge.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Judging the judge.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Swells.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like the whole scratch.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Now here's my question.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_06]: We know, we know Padme was up to no good

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_06]: with Pablo the painter.

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_06]: We know that.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Right?

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So she's had a deep dick in it.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_06]: As my friend pilot often says when you're going on a date,

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_06]: she's like, you better get some deep dick in.

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_06]: She's had an order of the Pajú.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_06]: The Brazil.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, so like, clearly the implication,

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_06]: because they get going fast.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_06]: They take one train ride together basically.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_06]: They ride in this thing.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_06]: They haven't even like taken a shower yet

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_06]: and Anakin's macking on it.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_06]: So obviously Anakin is horny as hell.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Right?

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_06]: He's hanging out with Obi-Wan.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't know when he can jerk off.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's bad news, right?

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Right?

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_06]: But he is, I'm wondering if Padme is like...

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: This is like a very griffin' tangent

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03]: for you to be going on.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm liking this.

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, like, so is Padme similarly kind of,

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_06]: you know, like she's been a while.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Round up.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_06]: They want to jump this guy's bones.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's really cute.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Like do you think that's what the implication of that?

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Because they really just get to it.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you know, sand, it's coarse.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_06]: He grabs her back and then kaboom.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's the young dumb

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and full of com stereotype.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, at that age, that level of power,

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that level of responsibility,

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: you want to have fucking fun.

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And we talked about so rarely are either of them

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: around people of their own age, you know?

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of species.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And let it be said, they're both very, very beautiful humans.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Very pretty.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Very, very pretty people.

[00:49:44] Very pretty.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But I feel so gross after I get off a plane.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I kiss anyone right after getting off a plane.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey, ma'am.

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I at least want to change my shirt.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Here are the clowns, by the way.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Here are the clowns.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: There are those fucking clowns.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_06]: So we saw a little Joshua Logan.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that his name?

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Was it the boy?

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_06]: As Boba.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And then we see like grown up, Django, eating dinner.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: There's three different actors.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think that's tomorrow.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's tomorrow.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think tomorrow is the most time.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: He looks a lot younger.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let me look it up.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And then there's this crazy shot.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_06]: We're like, it's just, I can't buy it.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_06]: It's this big thing that show and the movie wants you to sign on for,

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_06]: which is like someone has just built an army capable of fighting a galactic war and no one has

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_06]: noticed.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Can I say something?

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is-

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how people-

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: They are Niagara Falls.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Any army is, if every member of that army has never left a single room,

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_06]: has no life experience, you know?

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's the same.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You kind of want diversity and you know, like-

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're making tough decisions in the battlefield, right?

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Who you are as a person, your sense of morality, your sense of integrity,

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_03]: these things are important.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_03]: All these people have just been a cafeteria with a thousand other versions of themselves.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think they make out?

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Do I think they make out with each other?

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: They have to, right?

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_06]: What else can you do?

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe that's just-

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe that's just not in there.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the one out of every 10 people are home sexual if you believe in a binary,

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_03]: black and white sort of bisexual identity?

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: But you have to imagine there at least like a thousand gay.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_06]: More than a thousand.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Thousands.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_06]: But unless maybe, because they are genetically modified,

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_06]: maybe they're just modified to like not think about that.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Which I find offensive.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: If I can say that.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It looks creepy.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, this scene-

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh is it when he tells her that he wants to be Hitler?

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Where he tells her he wants to be Hitler.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks great.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks great.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks phenomenal.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_06]: He looks fine too, but she looks-

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_03]: When he looks suntan-y, admit it.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like you have to cover up his suntan.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks-

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got this headband on.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks like a little 60s flower child.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_06]: She's got these like, you know, Clementine nets on her hair.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_06]: She has the best placed birthmarks.

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh she is.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_06]: She's a very, very pretty person.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Natalie Courtman.

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_06]: She does have like an intense smile.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Big toothy smile.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I like it.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_06]: You like it?

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I like toothy smiles.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Hasn't been much kind of like Courtman in the cinema recently has there.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_06]: No, she's been laying low.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Just her Marvel commitments.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Does she have something big to see?

[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_06]: But she's wearing two of those.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, but like since Blacks won.

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_06]: She hasn't done-

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_06]: She's been coming up.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_06]: What she's doing, she's doing a-

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Well she's got that Jane got a gun thing which like has been in development

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_06]: helped forever.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_06]: That's probably a future episode of the podcast.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And she was a producer on that.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that tied her up for a couple years.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_03]: She had a baby so she took some time off to raise her child.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_03]: She's doing a Ruth Bader Ginsburg movie with Hiller, which should be phenomenal.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope that happens.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's happening.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're doing it for HBO.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they have the commitment and everything.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You're right.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not called on the basis of sex.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_06]: That's an HBO thing.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's definitely happening.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: She's in the New Malik movie.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is supposedly coming out this year.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I went to a shot like five years ago, I say with a mouthful.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And she directed a movie called A Tale of Love and Darkness

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_06]: that is based on the memoir of Amos Az.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_06]: She was a great person.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_06]: In Brace Amos Az, he's like a long time Israeli person

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_06]: who's in favor of the Palestinian,

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_06]: like in favor of a two-state solution.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_06]: He's great.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_06]: He's great.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's interesting.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_06]: We just missed Django writing on a dragon.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Cool.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, since Black Swan, it's just No Strings Attached Your Highness

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_06]: and the Two Thor movies.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, wow.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And I assume Your Highness and No Strings Attached were shot before

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_06]: or around the same time.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Your Highness, I think was pushed back for a while.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She's going to be in the next Terrence Malik movie.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is a while ago.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is like about the music scene in Texas,

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_06]: which that could be crazy.

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_06]: That's not Night of Cups.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_06]: That's Rebels.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a name for it.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't, it's not officially named.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Untitled.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And then she's in some movie called Planetarium,

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_06]: which I don't know what this is.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And she's in Jane Goddard Gunn.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And supposedly she's going to do a Jackie Kennedy movie.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_06]: She's visually suited for.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is the Obi-Wan Django.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a great cut to both of them.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Like with like a sort of like looking to prove that I designed it.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But recently.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll throw out.

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And not to just keep on harping on these same things, right?

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_03]: But like if you're composing a shot,

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_03]: once you decide what sort of size shot you want.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking especially like dialogue scenes like this,

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_03]: where you're doing shot over shot, whatever.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You find the actors, you block the scene

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_03]: based on how they want to play it, you know?

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Then you look around the environment and you find the right frames

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_03]: using the lines of the space around them.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So what are the lines where the windows,

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_03]: what makes a compelling shot?

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_03]: What's a compelling frame line?

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, all this sort of stuff.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You look at the shots where there are actual physical backgrounds

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: for them to frame with.

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And they look so much better than the shots

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: where they're in front of a green screen that are close-ups.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Because they don't, they're framing off fucking nothing.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know.

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So they're just like,

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're right.

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Put the guy in at three quarters to the left.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right there.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And put a bunch of green over his shoulder

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and then later they paint in something.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't even stand in front of a window.

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks horrible.

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks so bad.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And like right there when he's just like standing in front

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_02]: of a wall, it's like that's a normal shot.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a normal shot in a movie.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_04]: What a shitty room too.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the worst.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I really suppose a room.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Even for this movie, I hate this scene from a visual perspective.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate his room.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate the lack of character in it.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate that they're giving him such a bad deal.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a shitty deal.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yes, for him to get a sun.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_06]: That's pretty cool.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, if you'd paid very hands please,

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_03]: because sun should have been a place to raise a sun.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_06]: This is a dinner scene.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the magic pair.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Like what kind of shit dinner is this?

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_06]: There's been one pair has been served.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Anakin doesn't have a pair.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that the whole first course?

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_06]: One of you could see?

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that the custom on the move?

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And they have these weird wine glasses with like metal stems.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_06]: She's wearing like a cyclops visor on her forehead.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I like this detail.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Watch the physics of the pair going onto the fork barely touches

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and in her mouth barely takes a bite.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That's true.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't disappear.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't realize.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember the first one, but I forgot that like she just sort of opens her mouth

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_06]: and like a piece sort of floats into it.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't even, it's not even like the piece attaches something.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a bite to it.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They just like took it the eraser icon and came up.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Mood part of the day.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at what she's wearing.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_06]: This is just her loungewear.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_06]: She is.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_06]: This is a relaxing night.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_06]: I think this is her first date outfit.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Cyclops visor, halter top, like this is, you know, easy.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's really not.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at that.

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You just don't buy it at all.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_06]: And also like only one.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Is he an idiot?

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Did he not pick up on like allowed this time?

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know what actually Anakin?

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Why don't you come with me to check out Django Fett

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and we're going to get another Jedi.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know we should have look over Patman?

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Literally anyone else.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyone else.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyone else because you know I have the force

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_06]: and also you won't shut off about it anyway.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: So I know that you are totally in love with this woman.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what else?

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if Anakin can feel the disturbance of his mom in pain,

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Obi-Wan can certainly feel the amount of quote unquote agony.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the boner.

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll just fucking call up Yoda and go I don't care who it is.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Send Kit Fisto.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Send Luminar on duty.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. Well, not don't send Pluk Pluma.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't send Pluk Pluma because he's even worse.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know what though?

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_06]: You'll just, you know, you'll just use your up

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_06]: and throw away like he does with everyone.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_06]: This is this scene is so laborious.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Anything is possible, Pat.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_06]: He is still mind blowing to me that Rachel Lang

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_06]: even at the tender age of 12 or whatever in a real world

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_06]: was into this.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: This dialogue is actually worse reading it than it is listening.

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're reading the dialogue up to subtitles.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If you follow your thoughts through to conclusion,

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: we'll take us to a place we cannot go.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we get it. Jesus.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Regardless of the way we feel about each other,

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_03]: whoever has responded like that to someone saying,

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I'm down to fuck.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm in agony.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_03]: If we follow our thoughts to a logical conclusion, what?

[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But like I feel like I just can't imagine everyone makes fun of this

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_06]: shit and they don't understand how bad it is.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't know what understands how bad this movie is.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We're the only two people who understand that.

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Even though everyone thinks this movie is bad,

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_06]: they don't get how bad it is.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They even put in the work that we have.

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_03]: They really imagine 13 year old Lang sitting there

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_03]: like tears well in my eyes.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: They're very pretty.

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: They're very pretty.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess I think, you know, when you're that young,

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_03]: there's something appealing about romance reduced only to pain and drama.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because you don't get chemistry yet when you're that young.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But just the idea of like, oh, the suffering.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's what a story.

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And they sure do talk a lot about how much they're suffering.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, look at that pouty face of his.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he might have been mostly cast off of that.

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Like he does give the camera some good power.

[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he gives good power.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It just doesn't.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Give me a great silent film right here.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I just love that.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I just love this.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_06]: She's like, Lama, Lama, or whoever at Town Wing, whatever.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That's one way.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, okay, bye everyone.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And then in one minute he's in like, I guess he has to make a phone call first,

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_06]: but he's pretty quickly in a fight, like a laser fight.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody comes out to check on that.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody seems to notice.

[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_06]: All right, maybe not that because he does have to do the phone call.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But still, I mean, we were just in that building.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We saw how many windows they have.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They have a lot of windows as they should.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_06]: They live on a crazy storm planet.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Just sitting in a room.

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_03]: There's so much chair.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: See, that chair looks like it's weird to see.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks very unrelaxing.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I was gonna say it looks weird to see

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: window and Yoda sitting in the same size chairs.

[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and in the same position.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Because in the Jedi Council their chairs are different sizes.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in different shapes.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And as they should be, of course.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And here it's like you can't tell if Yoda's chair is too big or

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: or Windu's chair is too small.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_06]: What is this room?

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_06]: It's still like, oh yeah, we'll have a communication room.

[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Which we have three Ottomans.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_06]: But this is the Jedi Council.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_06]: We're not going to need no, no, no, no, three Ottomans.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing else.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: No desk.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_06]: No nothing.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What there's that concept that I told you about

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_03]: where it was designed for face.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: When you were like an Ikea desk.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was Wall Street.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I had to keep coming to my office.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Council of our Authorization of Colon Army.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: No, crazy.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, no, we didn't author

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_03]: it.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, hey, should have a

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: clone army.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_06]: No, she's like, hey, it's a clone army.

[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And they're reacting as if he's like saying nothing of note to them.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_06]: They say bring him to us.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Blind we are creation of this clone army.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_06]: We could not see he's screaming.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's confused.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He's in the rain.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He's yelling over his book.

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That they said we had a clone army commission by the Jedi.

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_06]: They go, no, we have no idea where you're talking.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Bring him in.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess we should talk to him.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, okay.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_06]: But here this is that I do talk about

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: this a lot.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_06]: We're there like, so that kind of confirms what we already knew.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Huh?

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Where our powers are useless.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's not tell anyone.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let's never bring it up ever again.

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_06]: If you tell anyone, rather than you know what red alerts,

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_06]: like clearly there is a vast enemy we should confront.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And if we tell anyone else about what's going on,

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: our adversaries will multiply.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: They say it's like a word losing red.

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's that's a total forgot about this like yet.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the best shot in the movie.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe.

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And I can't hang in.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Don, it looks like he's just taking a leak on the balcony.

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't it?

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like he's taking a leak.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I just, I like the idea that she thinks that he's this correctly.

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Knowing teenager, right?

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Who has like an annoying crush on her.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_06]: But then he does have this like reflective side that's like in his training basically has to

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_06]: meditate.

[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_06]: He has to be all serious.

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He had another nightmare last night and should I don't have nightmares?

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I heard you.

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: How does she hear him through the fucking marble wall?

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You fucking creep.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: God.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are thick walls.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are some thick walls.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Thick ass walls.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Pow, pow, how crazy.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_06]: One shot looks fine and then the reverse shot looks like garbage.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's about how much of course it's about the

[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_06]: background and about the end.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's fine.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine because everything in front of her and the real light is hitting those objects.

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Her face in this whole scene right now, it looks like this was just camera blocking.

[01:03:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, she doesn't respond to he's not responding to anything.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_06]: He says things like I had an vision of my mother.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I had a nightmare.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I could see her to prophecy whatever the fuck it she just looks at him like you're

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_06]: saying like scrambled eggs.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But it just looks like.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Two sauces.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just go okay Natalie and just look off this way.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_03]: You're right.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And just hold on just one second staring straight into the camera.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: This scene is kind of cool.

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Django flying, shooting, saber and rain.

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Because we never seen saber versus gunslinger really.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: What a unpleasant like week of shooting this must have been for you and McGregor.

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Where you're just in a green screen studio by yourself and then for underwater.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: You know?

[01:04:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very true.

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope it was well compensated.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Like shoots in like extreme weather conditions, but you're with other people.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And the weather conditions are extreme because you're in nature and nature is giving that to you.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But just be like okay we're gonna put you in a warm studio in Australia and then pour a punch

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: of water on you.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't fuck it's a rain.

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_06]: You know would you say that this film series helped her hurt his career?

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Because even McGregor's career never quite reached what you would have thought

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_06]: considering the hype of his early you know years of snack.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say it was a net zero.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think so?

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I think he was on a really interesting track as sort of an art house leading man

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and a studio character actor.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And then this made him put him in sort of the category of like the big mainstream leading guys

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: for studio film.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But he was never yeah.

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's the thing he got viewed in that line.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And so there was like eight years where he was doing all the wrong things.

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Because people had the wrong impression of how to use him.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's gotten back on track a little bit in the last couple years.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it helped him and made him you know greatly improved his exposure.

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Did it?

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it did.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Like imagine if he hadn't made the Star Wars movies but Mulan Rouge should come out.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think he would have gotten Mulan Rouge had he not done Star Wars.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's possible.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I contend.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a fair contention.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to think of Dave, him the part in Mulan Rouge.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to do him.

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: When everyone thought he was going to be a huge movie star because of Star Wars.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_06]: So he's in shallow grave in 94 and I don't know if you've seen shallow grave but he's great.

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And it was sort of he was like noticeable.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Like oh who's this handsome young man?

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_06]: He bounces around in deep British movies obviously makes train spotting which is his big break.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Double boil.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_06]: He makes some stuff like the pillow book and you know he has a supporting role in Emma

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_06]: and Brass Toff like these sort of like you know cute but forgettable.

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like a handsome young boy.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_06]: He's in an episode of ER.

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you've seen it.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Really good episode.

[01:06:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh wow.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Centered on his character.

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_06]: What year is that?

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_06]: 97.

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's season three.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah somewhere.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Boys play.

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_06]: He plays this guy who holds up a convenience store when Nurse Hathaway is in it.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And she's which one's there's had Margolies.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a good episode.

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_06]: It's called The Long Way Around by an ER fanatica.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_06]: He plays a petty criminal.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_06]: And then there's like he shoots someone she has to like stabilize the person.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_06]: You know it's like a little drama.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's great.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just it's great.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Good episode.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And he got Lifeless Ordinary.

[01:06:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh right.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_06]: The final boil collaboration.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And now on Bombs that's him and Cameron Diaz.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And that was.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's heavily marketed in America.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_06]: They think it's going to be.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That was going to be a mainstream play.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And it goes nowhere.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And you got the Goldmine which I'd say he's terrific in.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Robot Richard on the ER on screen.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Good.

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And then you have Little Voice where he's he does that too many times where he just plays the nice

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_06]: boy.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_03]: But David let's point out as we know from behind the scenes feature ads he gets cast in Star Wars

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: 97.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's around them.

[01:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: No I know I know you're so you know but the time he's on ER he's probably already

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_03]: not in the part of Star Wars.

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know by 98 he's filming it by 99 it's out.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's like 96 is like the end of like first era you and McGregor.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of these parts he's getting from that water scene are people like hiring him because

[01:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: they think they're going to get the post yeah Phantom Menace boost.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Water look at water.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh god what a sad Husqvar man he's become he misses them so much he misses his exhibit

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: scene he misses his slaves.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: So his beard looks good.

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_06]: There's some like dramatic pause.

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_06]: It's actually.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And his little.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_06]: The probe droid for him.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you the one who told me this or did I look this up that they wanted him to have

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: the hat in the first movie but they couldn't get it right in time.

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think I knew that.

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I like his jaunty little hat.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes that was like the hat was part of the design for the first movie but it was

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: too complicated the effects weren't there for the hat.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_06]: No but it's good because then it's what's different about him.

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_06]: He's got a hat.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_06]: He's got a little hat.

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't fucking know Shimi's name.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Shimi.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: His nose is such a little pee pee.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: The way his nose moves is like a little pee.

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It moves great.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It moves great the physics on the nose are great.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And the beard is great.

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: God he's such a good character actor.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks like a nun.

[01:08:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She looks 50 years old.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_06]: They owe me back to our Mewmer Gregor.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_06]: So he's in I had the beholder.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_06]: With Ashley Judd I believe that's you know in that sort of like crazy weird subgenre of

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Ashley Judd sex crime movies there's like four in like four years.

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: What year is it?

[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: No it's 99.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's like and I think that was a Fox movie so that's definitely them being

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: like we got this guy he's in Phantom Menace that's going to be huge let's put him in other

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: movies.

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: This was an official selection at the Venice Film Festival that's crazy.

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Who directed it?

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Stefan Elliott someone I've never heard of anyway it doesn't matter.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he's in Nora which he plays James Joyce that got nowhere and then Will Unroof

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_06]: which you feel like should be the start of his.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you know that's like he's such a sweetheart in it.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's such a big performance but very winning.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely a part he got because he was in Phantom Menace.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I would contend.

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: In terms of like major studio financing and that was Fox as well.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like him in Black Hawk.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's very good in Black Hawk down.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's great.

[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a huge fan of Black Hawk down.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's really good.

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I am a huge fan of Black Hawk down and I also think.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a hard time with war movies in general.

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Love war movies.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And with that much combat I think it's an exquisitely made film.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So good.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a hard time engaging with that much combat.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that movie.

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That is my own feeling not the feeling.

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it's fine it's fine.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean people criticize that movie for dehumanizing its villains but I think

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_06]: that's the point of the movie is that these soldiers have absolutely no concept of like

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: the world they're engaging in.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean that's yes.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I do.

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean I'm a misdontist defender of that movie anyway.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Black Hawk down.

[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Attack on the Clones down with love.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_06]: He's so fabulous and down with love.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_06]: It's such a great movie.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Love it.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And you know so you feel like he should be like really rising to the cream of the crop.

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_06]: But none of these movies do very well.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: They don't do well.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the problem.

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Rueh and Rouge doesn't even do that well.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_06]: No it was it.

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's more of a critical hit and like and then a DVD lifer you know like

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It did okay in the box office.

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It did okay.

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like 60 million over 50.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know.

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Soundtrack sales were good.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It came out May.

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of Oscar nominations.

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But that was like seven months later that sort of rebounded its opinion you know.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It's all true and then he's got you know he keeps making these really weird.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Down with love is a big bomb.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It's notable.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Down with love is a huge bomb.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He keeps down with love tying into next week.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Down with love the failure of down with love leads to the immediate shutdown

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: of director Peyton Reed's Fantastic Four.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that right?

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It was I for some reason I thought he jumped from Fantastic Four to down with love.

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I'm wrong.

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: No he had down with love.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_03]: In the can.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Fox had Fantastic Four.

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He pitched on Fantastic Four.

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_03]: They were high on down with love.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_03]: They thought it was going to be a big hit.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Down with love came out in like May.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a big summer release.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: When Azela was like her peak.

[01:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Her quote unquote peak.

[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Again over a cold.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And he had that ready to go and the down with love bomb they kicked him

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: off of it.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And two years later the Tim Story movie came out.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Peyton Reed's Fantastic Four is going to be set in the 60s.

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we're going to talk about this next week.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And what comes after that one?

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_06]: He mixing I'm just one point I'm mixing this in he mixes in these

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_06]: British Indian movies like Rogue Trader and Nora.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_06]: He makes this movie Young Adam which I think is a decent like little you know

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_06]: and he's got big fish.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Another one that like I'm you know I used to be a real Oscar watcher

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_06]: like you know that was in of the three movies that year everyone at the start

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_06]: was like this will be huge.

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_06]: This is going to get a zillion Oscar nominations.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_06]: This is going to be Tim Burton's like big break.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Like as a sort of Academy acclaimed type you know a big fish.

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I love that movie.

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that movie.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a horror.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a horror film.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that movie maybe seven times in theaters.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That's insanity.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the only movie David it is the only movie that makes me cry every time I watch.

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Well the ending is it's the best part.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But the way it builds it's everything I care about.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big defender of Tim Burton.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a big turning point in his career.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like if that movie had you mean Alice in Wonderland.

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What is the disaster.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh God it's so bad.

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I think if that movie specifically had landed the way people like you expected it would.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Right he would have kept making those kinds of movies.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:13:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's fair.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the last like seven years of Tim Burton have been very cynical and

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: regressive because he kind of is like I don't know I guess you want me to do this.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I also love big eyes.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't love big eyes but I it was okay the problem I have a lot of thoughts on big eyes.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I think people get angry at Tim Burton for quote unquote doing the same thing all the time

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: but they also don't go see his movies where he does things that are different.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Big eyes was never going to do well.

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Agreed.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_06]: But Big Fish could have done well.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's weird that he made two big movies.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_06]: He also made big.

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Alice in Wonderland made a billion dollars worldwide.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God that movie is I don't remember anything about it.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And big eyes made 20 million dollars worldwide.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And everyone went to see Alice in Wonderland went uh fuck it Tim Burton does the same thing

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: over and over again.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He does something different and they don't go see it.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think Big Eyes is that good though.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_06]: It's so broad.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that it's broad.

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that it's weird and like melodramatic.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I liked it okay.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I liked it a lot.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_06]: It has this problem that I actually think Kristoff Waltz isn't bad at it at all

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_06]: but it is this thing of like where she's like I guess I'll marry you and you just are like

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_06]: it's Kristoff Waltz it's very off like he's doing the same accent.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to marry that guy.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like because he's like combining all his like filmic influences like it's like

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: it's it's you know it's a domestic drama for like 15 minutes.

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a classic to like Mario Bava like like like you know fucking like high like contrast

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: crazy over the top horror movies.

[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: But then it kind of peters out.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_06]: The courtroom seems sort of fun.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it.

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_06]: It's good but like the movie is so staked on that climax.

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and you know it's here's Joel Edgerton I need to see the gift.

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I love him.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Um oh so you haven't seen the gift yet.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_06]: No I need to see it.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it until the last five minutes.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Well this is what I keep hearing people are wildly all over the place on the ending.

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I still is it was it all a dream?

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: No okay it was all a nightmare.

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: No I still like it.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I think it's a very good first film.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he is building to something really interesting and the ending undercuts that.

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Well we should talk about it but I gotta see it.

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you seen Sean the sheep movie?

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_06]: No I don't want to.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I love it so much David.

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah but you like the art men stuff and I don't actually really like the art men stuff.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[01:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: What do you know that Sean the sheep is a silent film?

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

[01:15:44] [SPEAKER_06]: That's zero dialogue.

[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know anything about it that's cool.

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: David is zero dialogue.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's great.

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what it is?

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that intertitles?

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Is that like noises?

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they make sounds.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And the humans like mutter they're like I don't know.

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: How long is it?

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a brisk 75 minutes.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that that I like.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a cute running time.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an adorable running time.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah is it claymation?

[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: There's claymations all claymation.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_06]: That shit takes forever I mean that's another reason it's short.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah yeah.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a very simple story it's very sweet it's very funny and it's

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: cinematically because it's entirely visual and there are some you know it's a

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: simple story which I think is to its credit.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But it actually has some complex emotional ideas and it does a lot of

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: very progressive things very very quietly.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's all done with a simplicity and grace through the dramatic of movement.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_06]: There's so many movies I need to see.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll see Sean.

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the best movie.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not but okay.

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what's the number one thing I hate about them?

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: What?

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The title is infuriating.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: The Sean the sheep movie?

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: No because technically it's just called Sean the sheep movie.

[01:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's missing a thug.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's just grammatically incorrect.

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at this thing where it's a silhouette.

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a weird choice.

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a weird choice.

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It could either be the Sean the sheep movie or it could be Sean the sheep

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: poll in the movie.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah not in those.

[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's Sean the sheep movie.

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I just want to point out that in between Big Fish and Star Wars Episode 3

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_06]: which I can't believe I never noticed before.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_06]: There's only two animated films Robots and Valiant.

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_06]: In which he's delete both times.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think those two movies were annoyed each other?

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait, who's your lead two?

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait a second.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_06]: He's our lead.

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Like oh come on.

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Both out in 2005.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Something interesting here.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So he gets Phantom Manus right?

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: In like 97.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay Life Less Ordinary was released by Fox.

[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Who at that point knows that he's playing Obi-Wan Kenobi.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I get you.

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[01:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I get you.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I am the beholder was...

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was Fox.

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Not noted.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Can I have to look this one out?

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Well let's just...

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay well.

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Silence is golden.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh look that one up.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But Moon Rouge is definitely Fox.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Black Hot Dems is Sony.

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh it's Sony okay.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously Attack of the Clones is Fox.

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Down with Love is Fox.

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Big Fish is Sony.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Robots is Fox.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And Revenge of the Sith.

[01:18:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So in the time between Fox like really doubles down on him.

[01:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.

[01:18:25] [SPEAKER_03]: They really try to make him happen.

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The guy and almost all those roles are like even something he's good in

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_03]: like Black Hawk Down.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Which wasn't.

[01:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yay.

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know.

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Either like the movies don't work.

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Or he's just not the thing you remember from it.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Or it's not the right fit for him.

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait who?

[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_06]: The Island.

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The Island is Dreamworks I believe.

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Because it was Bay leaving the Brachheimer.

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the one Brachheimer didn't produce.

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course Brachheimer always makes

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_06]: some of the fact that it's the only Michael Bay movie

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_06]: that didn't make any money.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_06]: But it's a good movie.

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh I do not like that movie.

[01:18:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean I don't like it either but it's better than like a lot of

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Bay Brachheimer movies.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_06]: It's at least trying to do something.

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_06]: That movie that movie is fascinating.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to watch it again because it is.

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_06]: All right go ahead.

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_06]: No what what what do you find fascinating about?

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_06]: The fact that it's like completely underwritten

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_06]: by advertising and endorsements.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's very prominent in the first half of the movie.

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And no in the whole movie.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't take it.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And like I don't know something something something

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: it says something about our society.

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't I haven't seen it since I saw it in theaters.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And then you've got your immigrant doing a dual performance

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_06]: which is just sort of hilarious.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember thinking the first performance is terrible

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: and the second one's great.

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember the first one.

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember the second one.

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember yeah I know what you mean.

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: The first one's a blank slate.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah the lead role I think he's really bad actually

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and the second character I think he's really funny.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That movie was very expensive.

[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Michael Bay had not had a flop until that point

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and when the movie bombed really hard

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember DreamWorks saying

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_03]: we bet on the stars of tomorrow instead of the stars of today.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And their point was Scarlett Johansson and McGregor

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: oh we all agree they're going to be big movie stars

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: but they're not big movie stars yet.

[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And Scarlett Johansson she was I think 22

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_03]: at the time they made that.

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And is now a big star.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But she was coming right off the loss in translation.

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_03]: At that point she wasn't a big like mainstream matinee

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_03]: you know fucking action star and now she is.

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Much everyone's surprised for a while there

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: it looked like that wasn't what she was going to become

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and she has between the Marvel films and Lucy

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: she's become both.

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_06]: She's an action star and she's like the

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_06]: in-between of our generation and I love Scarlett Johansson.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Me too.

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think that movie is an interesting nail

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: on the coffin for you McGregor

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_03]: because they said to start tomorrow.

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He at that point is like 12 years older than Scarlett Johansson.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He is the nail in the coffin.

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: He had been in three Star Wars movies.

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: If it was going to happen in that kind of way

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: it would have happened by then.

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it was conclusively like

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: this isn't the kind of film that he does well in.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't do his best work in this movie.

[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: People don't like him in these types of movies.

[01:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Get him back in small shit.

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a quote that I remember someone said

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: it was some review of beginners.

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Where they said you and McGregor is one of the best leading men

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: alive as long as your movie costs less than 10 million dollars.

[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait I just hear that this is the shrill.

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh that's actually upsetting.

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really kind of upsetting.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: For a movie that's so artificial

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like just.

[01:21:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't need to show her looking.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and the fact that she's strapped to this thing

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_06]: and obviously like kind of a sex slave or something.

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No no not or something.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: She's a sex what else would they be doing.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They're just beating her for sport.

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway the implication is clearly that

[01:21:38] [SPEAKER_03]: she's a sex slave in a feisty alley.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this scene.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They're Tuscan Raiders.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Tuscan Raiders are pretty problematic

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_06]: to use a problematic.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway actually the island as we're saying.

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes it's over.

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_06]: It's over.

[01:21:52] [SPEAKER_06]: He makes stay in the movie makes no money.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: For Fox that was a big Oscar hole.

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That was like a hot screenplay.

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It is so fucking bad.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Gosling was like the up and comer guy

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and that was the most annoying twist.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: They thought that was going to be a big Oscar hole.

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't.

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_06]: So hard.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_06]: He's an Alex Ryder as Ian Ryder's

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_06]: as Alex Ryder's dad but that that movie went nowhere.

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't mean that's very popular series of books in Britain.

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't wear my sister in the correction Alex Ryder.

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Miss Potter he has this string of playing castrated

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah like a man opposite in like a lady biopic.

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_06]: So Miss Potter he's in Cassandra's Dream

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_06]: which is an interesting weird little movie.

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I still have never seen it.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I more and more read a lot of people

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: defending that.

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not bad.

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't really get why you defend it

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_06]: except that it's better than match point

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and on similar lines.

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It also was if I'm not mistaken Woody Allen's

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_03]: single least successful movie of all time.

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Was it even less successful than You Will Meet a Tall Dark Strange?

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no question.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's undoubtedly the least successful in the last 20 years.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: That's crazy.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember if like one of the ones from the late 80s

[01:23:01] [SPEAKER_03]: did less than that.

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it made less than one million dollars

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_06]: in the United States.

[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy.

[01:23:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Season 1 would be called Incendiary which I only know

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_06]: or is it Deception.

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_06]: He's in multiple movies with this show.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The Hugh Jackman one.

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Deception.

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay because Deception I know was

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: he had like a lot of hot sex.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Hugh Jackman really liked that script for some reason

[01:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and forced Fox to make it as part of his payment

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: for X-Men 3 or Y.

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: There were some weird backs.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_06]: No I get you.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_06]: God what a weird thing to spend your capital on.

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_06]: What's he doing?

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: What's up with this crew?

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay now we disagree on this.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I like him a lot and I love you Felt Marse.

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You hate that performance right?

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_03]: No I don't hate that performance.

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Joe Reed hates that performance.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I don't ever.

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_06]: That movie's okay.

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I like that movie.

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I think he's a good thing.

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_06]: He starts making me small.

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_06]: He's in and he's the villain and vaginal some demons

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_06]: but that's yeah I mean no one watch that movie.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And who's Derek Goats?

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It's all our movies when he's like the third lead

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Emilia who plays Gorbital.

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_06]: No Gorbital's dad.

[01:24:03] [SPEAKER_06]: He plays Gene Vidal?

[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you see Gorbital.

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you seen Emilia?

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: It's terrible.

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_06]: No I haven't seen him.

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And in Gorbital is like a kid

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_06]: but even then they're like they're like

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_06]: let's make sure everyone knows this kid is super gay.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like it's really annoying.

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_06]: That gore always getting in arguments with people.

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_06]: It really is that.

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So I feel like Emilia is the final gasp of that.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And then after that.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know Cook Sidebar that Gorbital

[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: was my mother's godfather?

[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a status move for like he was like a casual

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_03]: like social.

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like let's have Gorbital.

[01:24:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and like of course 80 different people chose that.

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So like my mother never I think saw him ever.

[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But like my grandmother was always braggling.

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Well Gorbital is her godfather.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He's in like 80s.

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at R4.

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: R4 sucks okay.

[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It comes after a million.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Well then I feel like he starts doing more like

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_06]: okay I want to make movies I want to make so it's like.

[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Danny McPhee returns.

[01:24:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Not Danny McPhee returns.

[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_06]: That must have just been a paper.

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Because only English actors like Hangout I think.

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And Emma Thompson she wrote that.

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_06]: That's her passion.

[01:25:06] [SPEAKER_06]: And it's like if you're not a Harry Potter

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_06]: you were in Star Wars and they all

[01:25:09] [SPEAKER_06]: sort of get together.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_06]: So you got the Ghost Rider.

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah but he's very good in actually.

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah beginners which he's good in.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Sam and Fishin' in the M in which.

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Get on my face.

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey wire which he is the final villain

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_06]: in which is a really strange choice.

[01:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But I liked him a lot in that.

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I find that movie incomprehensible.

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that movie.

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I could not follow what was going on.

[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You know it's hard to follow that one.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I found it impossible to follow.

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not easy to follow.

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not usually that confused at a movie

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and I love Soda Berg.

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't dislike it.

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it.

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I just literally could not understand what was happening

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: on a moment to moment basis.

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But I thought he was good in it.

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: The impossible kind of sucks.

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Impossible is hard.

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen him.

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want to make me angry.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Jack the Giant Slayer I have not seen.

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know that movie doesn't need to be about?

[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack.

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: No I'm sorry the impossible.

[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I was a second.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh white people.

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah no I know I know.

[01:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Jack the Giant Slayer why was he in that.

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I heard he was fun in that.

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Is he what is he.

[01:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He plays like the like the air again like

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Aero Flynn type.

[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that anyone saw that movie or that it exists.

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But I remember saying I don't think that if you walked into the theater and bought a ticket

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_03]: for a win contest you got it.

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just so weird when this happens when Brian Singer is like you know what give me 200 million

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_06]: dollars I'm going to make a Jack in the Beanstalk movie and they're like sure

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_06]: that'll hit that's a good idea.

[01:26:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Like why isn't there a crazier element to that movie.

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He really wants a direct first class but he had Jack the Giant Slayer development

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and Warner Brothers would not let him out of his contract.

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They said fuck no you're not going and making X-Men we need you to make Jack the Giant Slayer

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: we're not letting Fox take away our business we need Jack the Giant Slayer.

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_03]: They just could have they could have let it die.

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They could have just saved money and not made the movie.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Whatever Augusto Sage County.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Son of a gun which I never saw a mortic.

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_06]: We haven't done a mortica episode because I haven't seen it yet.

[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you know what like I've been I'm always a little resistant to the things that

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Twitter hops on and you know this year it's been mortica and then minions you know these movies

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_06]: where like they don't even know what the movie is or if it's bad but they just like

[01:27:18] [SPEAKER_06]: see trailers. I mean mortica is obviously bad.

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Mortica is you're just laughing at mortica right now.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a part time bro.

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of mustached.

[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_06]: He's such a cat.

[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't know what anyone was thinking with this one.

[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_04]: She's such a cat David.

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Classic mortica.

[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_06]: There he is.

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_06]: There's you and McGregor at the premiere wearing like a...

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It really isn't.

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I think you and I are just mortic.

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You're just like that.

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry I am just...

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a surfeitor.

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Mortica.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I had to be screencap of the trailer that like is Johnny Depp making the most horrendous play.

[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He's on the hood of a car.

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the thing.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay you and McGregor made a movie this year called Last Days in the Desert in which he

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_06]: plays Jesus.

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_06]: This movie is not been released because no one has picked it up.

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_06]: It was at Sundance?

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_06]: It was at Sundance and it got perfectly good respect.

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, Rodrigo Garcia who's a really good director.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah Jesus Christ.

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And no one's talking about it.

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_06]: No one...

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_06]: My managing editor of the Atlantic writes about religion.

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't write about culture.

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: By the way this is the scene where Anikotel Padme that he killed all of you.

[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: This scene is fucking garbage.

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_06]: This set is terrific though.

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And she was like why is this movie not coming out?

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And I didn't have an answer for her except like I mean no one picked it up at Sundance

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_06]: and sometimes that happens and then like it is that weird Sundance thing

[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_06]: where the longer you get the less high your movie looks even if it's good.

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know if the movie is good or bad but it is kind of crazy that you

[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_06]: made a movie in which she plays Jesus and no one's even fucking releasing it.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You'd think it would get a little bit of attention.

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Of all the time that movie, Infinity Polar Bear, I think came out two years after

[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: the worst title in the world.

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The worst title?

[01:29:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of like two years after Sundance because the same thing happened

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: where no one bought it there.

[01:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It got cold and then like a year later.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone finally got it for so cheap.

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you get it for nothing.

[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Clay Lars what a good performance.

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Great performance.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Give me my thing.

[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I know but you were just you just would not stop talking about it and

[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_06]: might as had to give it up.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Look at his missing leg.

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_06]: All right so we have to get back to this movie.

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_06]: So we've been talking not about this movie for a long time I think

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_06]: because this movie just becomes so unconscionably boring.

[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh this is the thing.

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Watch I was going to tie everything in back together okay.

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Mordecai.

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what I was saying.

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: We're saying film Twitter likes to pick these things right.

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_06]: They make not film Twitter.

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Twitter weird Twitter.

[01:29:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Comedy Twitter and weird Twitter.

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Film Twitter is not like that.

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Film Twitter is going crazy about Jeff Walls and the bear.

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And Carol.

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Is going crazy about Erlich Loving Carol.

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Erlich Loving Carol has become like the recurring joke of this month on film Twitter.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Film Twitter is like backlash to the backlash to the backlash to Force Friday think pieces.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care about that.

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_06]: That's like nerd Twitter though.

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_06]: That's like Devon Ferracci who interacts with them Twitter.

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_06]: What's the sentence again?

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_06]: German Lucia.

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Broke for I09.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Who's got a BB8?

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Who doesn't have a BB8?

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_06]: The problem with that piece which I read is it just sort of it's direct.

[01:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: As far as we can talk about any of this.

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Why not?

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Why is someone going to be on the podcast?

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_06]: What are you laughing about?

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh right because it's a fucking prequel shit.

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Because our rules.

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Cut that out Ben.

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway let's talk about your file father's financial.

[01:30:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Look just to say the problem with you and German Lucia's piece which we don't need to

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_06]: talk about in detail.

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is about buying some non-script toys.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like the piece is like I got to Toys R Us, I waited in line and then there were no

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_06]: toys on the shelf.

[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like there's not enough to it you know.

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a dull piece.

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Because mostly you're just like okay well it sounds like your Toys R Us is no good.

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[01:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben, T.R. you.

[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: My cares.

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He did have the amazing sentence.

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The pops were decimated.

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He very dramatically described.

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the other problem I have I'm keeping you know I'm keeping some tabs on that movie

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_06]: that we can't talk about.

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_06]: But like I don't know every single fucking character's name and I'm not paying as much

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_06]: attention to merchandise and shit.

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_06]: So like yeah a lot of that went over.

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so let's not talk about that anymore.

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's hilarious.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Film tour segment.

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Mordecai.

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Mordecai this is what I was gonna say okay.

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate the comedy Twitter shit.

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You and I I think are on a very similar page we don't like to fucking make jokes

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: about things like that.

[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Meme them if we haven't seen them.

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right agreed.

[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Gotta do the fucking time.

[01:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah of course you know.

[01:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the what's the joke?

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_06]: You're just making jokes about advertising.

[01:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right exactly.

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like bad movies have been advertised well.

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Good movies have been advertised poorly.

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I mean obviously look if you're gonna watch a Mordecai commercial crack a

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_06]: joke or two I get it.

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_06]: The thing is asking for it.

[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I get it.

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah lots of cracking jokes.

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And Minions was like everywhere and I get that it gets annoying and I get that the

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_06]: internet is obsessed with Minions.

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Six months bits and like fucking extended out.

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_06]: My problem with the Minions thing can I really I hate the Minions thing.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Me too.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the Minions thing is just a Shrek thing.

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the exact same thing which is Shrek with Shrek it was funny.

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah because it was a movie that wasn't out anymore.

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:32:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And it was just especially strange.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And to imagine the subculture of Shrek people right.

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I guess.

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Minions is out like who cares.

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not even surprising that kids and weirdos in America like Minions it's

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_06]: it's a dominant franchise.

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Well that's my problem with it is that like at the time that all these weird

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Twitter kids are going like oh Minions I'm liking Minions ironically.

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_02]: The thing we got is 300 million dollars.

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Shrek is an incredibly successful movie.

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Shrek is like a decade dormant franchise.

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Shrek is reduced to like touring musicals and freedom.

[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Shrek is so weird.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that this is what I like about the Shrek bit which we have to say

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: our friend pilot was way ahead of the curve.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah pilot was I mean pilot in her like as she does all the time.

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_06]: She's joking about something and you're like it is funny that she's right and then

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_06]: the rest of the internet catches up to it.

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But pilot was owning that Shrek game.

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Shrek.

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: The funny thing about Shrek the funny thing about the Shrek thing for me

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_03]: is that Shrek is such a fucking ugly character.

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's true.

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like the whole point of the first film is this guy's unappealing.

[01:33:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then like slowly he comes around.

[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_06]: All right I can't believe we're not talking about this movie.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_06]: This is crazy.

[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Across the 17 Shrek movies and Christmas specials and whatever

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_03]: they neutered the character where they made him cute and they tried to pretend like he was always

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_06]: like the whole.

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And he was always the protagonist of the other movies in the same.

[01:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Right but they like had Shrek do a cute little dance but he's still a disgusting looking guy.

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have like merchandising Shrek and putting him in a juice box and stuff like that

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: is much funnier to me than like minions where minions look like serial characters.

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They look like they were designed to sell shit you know.

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Where Shrek was like doing the character.

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Shrek dolls are funny.

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So she can see where is like a burlap shirt.

[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But my point was we don't do shit like that.

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: If we're gonna fucking make fun of Attack the Clones we're gonna watch Attack the Clones.

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_03]: All right well we should be watching the dookie scene.

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so he's in the fourth.

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh god look at Christopher Lee just fucking slicing that delicious ham.

[01:34:40] [SPEAKER_04]: This is like real acting.

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile you and McGregor is on like a lazy suit and the PAs were slowly turning it

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: underneath us.

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The visuals of this prison are the worst.

[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Terribly good.

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Laser handcuffs.

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So here's the thing that I keep bringing up in this series.

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_06]: He's about to just reveal the actual truth.

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_06]: He's not obfuscating.

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_06]: If I told you that the Republic was under the control of a dark lord of the Sith.

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Hypothetically what if I told you that?

[01:35:17] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like no I gotta be aware of it and he's like yeah no they're not because of the dark side.

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_06]: He's right.

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah no we thought.

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Everything he's saying is true.

[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Senators and outers influence.

[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Dorothy is he names the fucking guy.

[01:35:32] [SPEAKER_06]: He's basically saying to Obi-Wan I've gone double agent.

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm working for this guy.

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_06]: He's talking to Bandy Daryl right now.

[01:35:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And this is what the situation is.

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Must shine me.

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And so his pitch is join me and we'll destroy the Sith.

[01:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like the Jedi's can't do it.

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So you kind of have to cross over.

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_04]: This is never answered.

[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Is he lying just at the end when he's like join me and we'll destroy them?

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Or is he genuinely like look I'm not really a Sith.

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm more Count Dooku.

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: No idea.

[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And never make clear.

[01:36:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the first time we have met that character.

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_03]: No we've seen him once before you talked over the scene but he does.

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh when they're having the meeting.

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The trade people yeah yeah yeah.

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But we don't really have a frame of reference.

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We're in a context for like well.

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Jar Jar.

[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_06]: He just called them DeLo feligates.

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot how late this happened.

[01:36:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Fucking.

[01:36:38] [SPEAKER_06]: You so proposed that the Senate.

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Give immediately.

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just tickulating way too much.

[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Who would be persuaded by this?

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This does feel like the way they cut into the scene it feels like it's like we're

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: this is hour 17 of a filibuster.

[01:36:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine having to in these people.

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: No way no way.

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: All the arm acting in this scene is horrendous.

[01:37:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone is just tickulating in a way that shows if they're voting yes or no.

[01:37:06] Oh my god.

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I love the mark.

[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Derham it's so good.

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's great.

[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I like this makeup work on him too.

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I like it's kind of old hammer horror like too ghastly the wrinkles are too.

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He's very Peter Cushing.

[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he'd be great in this.

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god anyway.

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like that but Christopher Lee it feels like that's what they're getting at.

[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he was obviously Buzzing Bodies with course.

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Cushing and it's like Lee and Cushing.

[01:37:28] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of actor that works well in this type of Phantom Menace movie.

[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: This I swear to god he's like great so you've granted me emergency powers.

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Number one grand army in their public guess what?

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Yoda Yoda and Mace Windu are hanging out at their window.

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: There's still like an hour left in this movie right because we haven't

[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's an hour.

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It's the droid factor yet there's 45 minutes at least.

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's about 45 minutes.

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we're gonna be done when did we start around 415.

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah because you couldn't find your reporter.

[01:38:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't find my tape recorder.

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_06]: So we're gonna be done around 630.

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So here we are on Geonosis.

[01:38:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Looks basically like the pre-render of a Star Wars Episode 1 Racer.

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is like the orange planet.

[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_03]: This is like the burnt sienna planet.

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_06]: It's an interesting move because it's not too far off Tatooine.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_03]: No I guess this is like the canyon planet.

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's got a lot of yellow stones.

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of like geysers and...

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not interested in getting a war here.

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me throw on my shawl.

[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my no-war shawl.

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Have they had sex yet?

[01:38:47] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what, I was just about to say their body language,

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_03]: they feel more relaxed.

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah they do.

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_03]: They're each other and even their intensity.

[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to just watch.

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right they're just here.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Well of course they have to just watch.

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's who's talking.

[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: See I like this dynamic of them not liking each other.

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's funny because we as racists would assume that all robots are friends.

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Well why is C3PO on their ship?

[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Why didn't we watch closer?

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: It's amazing how they land and they're just like here's the door.

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Smucks coming from here let's hit this.

[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that opens the door.

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_03]: He touches his hand till one part of it.

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a handle.

[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: He just touches his hand till one part of it

[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and then a lever goes...

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Cracks open.

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh this looks like a good pathway to enter.

[01:39:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And now C3PO and R2D2 are arguing about whether or not...

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_03]: They should go help them I guess.

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Which really is not a debate.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_06]: The answer is no.

[01:39:39] [SPEAKER_06]: They don't want you to go help them.

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_06]: And R2 and C3PO provide no help.

[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_06]: They create a lot of trouble.

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I guess R2 turns off the droid factory.

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh actually.

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Like after a while.

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_06]: R2 is such a...

[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_06]: But not before vindictively knocking 3PO into the droid factory.

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you think R2 is like...

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like an agent of chaos.

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He just wants crazy things to happen.

[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to put forward a fan theory on this movie

[01:40:10] [SPEAKER_03]: that maybe R2D2 is the Joker of

[01:40:16] [SPEAKER_03]: fucking attack clones because he just wants to see the world burn.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah okay I just...

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a thing right?

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a fan theory and people are mad about it.

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is dumb.

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean David everything is dumb.

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the fan theory?

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The Joker is the hero.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_06]: That doesn't make any sense though.

[01:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: No it doesn't make any sense.

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make any sense.

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing if a movie does not propose something then it doesn't happen in that movie.

[01:40:42] [SPEAKER_06]: But like that movie also is very labored

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_06]: in making Batman's philosophical struggle with the Joker.

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Like a parent.

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Like the end scene is him being like,

[01:40:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Ha I was right!

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_06]: There is humanity left in these people.

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes and also it spends a lot of time arguing over the idea that

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: things don't exist in shades of black and white.

[01:41:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Like no one can entirely be a hero.

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be the hero they deserve not the hero they need like all this shit you know?

[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Or the other way around whatever the fuck it is.

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The point is like there's no reading of that movie where it's like

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: what if he was the good guy all along?

[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's like no like everyone's got good points and bad points but at the end of the day

[01:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: the Batman stands for the right thing.

[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[01:41:24] [SPEAKER_02]: The Joker like kills people in that movie like a lot.

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah here's the thing.

[01:41:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He like blows up a hot spilt.

[01:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Killing people sucks.

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It's really bad news.

[01:41:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Killing people is like a bad deal.

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The machine is making machines.

[01:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: How perverse.

[01:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, R2.

[01:41:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Go calm down I almost fell.

[01:41:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god oh no.

[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck you.

[01:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you R2.

[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay here's a serious question.

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate this machine by the way.

[01:41:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This one that CG does flying at your expense.

[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: What is it?

[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Flying bed.

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's so stupid.

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a flying mattress.

[01:41:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the bed from Pet Nox and Broomsticks.

[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Love them.

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Serious question.

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that R2D2 is capable of flying at all times like he is here

[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_03]: or do you think it's like a street fighter special move thing

[01:42:10] [SPEAKER_03]: where he has to wait for a special move power bar to go up

[01:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's why the rest of the time he's like literally the slowest robot in the world?

[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's correct.

[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's correct because it's like he can do that

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and then he needs to like go back to the shop

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_06]: get the fuel put back in those jets or whatever.

[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Padme's in a cereal bowl.

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Padme is in a pestle.

[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We have to believe that he only has a limited resource because otherwise

[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a real dick move to make everyone wait for you when you could be flying the whole time.

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He absolutely...

[01:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at he's soaring though.

[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_03]: C3.

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: This section of the movie is just straight up a cartoon.

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_06]: No it's all...

[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a cartoon business.

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a tune.

[01:42:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay here's a very serious question.

[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Eddie Valiant.

[01:43:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Private eye.

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Would he like Attack of the Clones?

[01:43:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Eddie Valiant, Private Eye.

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_06]: No because it's you mean because of the toontail thing is that your joke?

[01:43:16] [SPEAKER_06]: It's too much of a tune.

[01:43:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But he does sort of eventually come to like tunes.

[01:43:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay bless a pre Roger Rabbit case Eddie Valiant.

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_03]: This movie technically designates itself as a live action film.

[01:43:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Eddie Valiant would watch it and go oh it's a toon?

[01:43:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah no.

[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Because it's got people in it.

[01:43:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I think he would think that it was weird and perverse like toon frame Roger Rabbit.

[01:43:40] [SPEAKER_06]: He would think that too much like...

[01:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Would he think it was like interracial marriage?

[01:43:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Well I don't know any Valiant's views on these things are never fully clear but

[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It's too much.

[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_06]: On like yeah but um you kind of make me want to watch that movie again.

[01:43:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I watched it like two nights again.

[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_06]: One thing I love about the movie I mean yeah there's so many things that are great about it.

[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:44:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Um but one thing I love is uh I hate this scene.

[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate that.

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Is Hoskins' performance.

[01:44:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh Hoskins is so good.

[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate that weird zoom in because it's totally out of line with the rest of the language Lucas

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_03]: is using in the film which is like very stoic steady shots and little to no camera movement.

[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's that one shot of Pat made looking up seeing the magma coming down and

[01:44:23] [SPEAKER_03]: then the camera like does a quick zoom out of like a fucking Russ Meyers movie.

[01:44:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Um do you think that this movie would be helped uh if it was more like a Russ Meyers movie or

[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_06]: not even out of like a willing kid you know like if it just was a little cheesier.

[01:44:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah of course you like even if it was fun.

[01:44:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But you know if it was fun to watch it.

[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a fine line because it's an expensive movie.

[01:44:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:44:51] [SPEAKER_06]: With a lot of complicated visuals and like sometimes people don't like it when those

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_06]: kinds of movies are like excessively tongue-in-cheek right like Sky Captain.

[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Now that Sky Captain was sure excessively expensive but like one problem with that movie is that it

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_06]: never can be taken seriously because it doesn't really want to be.

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes look I think you know excessively tongue-in-cheek is not always a path for success

[01:45:13] [SPEAKER_03]: but I do like my movies to be self-aware you know they don't have to be like

[01:45:19] [SPEAKER_03]: self-critical or meta-textual but especially with big movies like this I think they

[01:45:25] [SPEAKER_03]: should be aware of what they are and you can tell when movies kind of like have this knowing

[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: sort of like don't worry we got you.

[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We know how you're watching this.

[01:45:34] [SPEAKER_03]: In this movie it feels like there's a disconnect between what the movie thinks it is and how we

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: view the movie.

[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an emperor's new clothes thing.

[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely true.

[01:45:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Here's a great a great scene to underline that thing you're just exactly talking about.

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Dying a little bit every day since you came back from my life.

[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_03]: How repad may you read Anakin?

[01:45:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay what are you talking about?

[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Long time.

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I love you.

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go.

[01:45:58] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the scene I like.

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You love me?

[01:46:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I thought we decided we had not I thought we had decided not to fall in love.

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Learn to read.

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah seriously I love that that we would be forced to live a lie

[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_03]: that it would destroy our lives.

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Airline the whole film.

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think our lives are about to be destroyed anyway but I'm chained.

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Cut to no laughter for Anakin.

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin dead serious.

[01:46:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Corporan's giving good close up here.

[01:46:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Tears in our eyes you feel there's a palpable emotion.

[01:46:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I like this shot.

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I think that the shot of them a little later when they're getting married is better done.

[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I agree.

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree your excellency.

[01:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree but

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that there are stakes here.

[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_03]: All these other scenes are going we can't we can't we must we must

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and this one it's like look we love each other

[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's about to become irrelevant because we're about to be killed.

[01:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the immediacy of that you know.

[01:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I'm with you in theory.

[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_06]: The music is helping.

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah like Williams getting center stage to do his love theme but

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Got our Bobby Penn.

[01:47:24] [SPEAKER_06]: What's annoying is like her hair looks crazy.

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Her hair actually looks like like like dog diarrhea.

[01:47:37] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is we are about an hour and 45 minutes into the movie

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_06]: and the movie's 220 movies about 220.

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[01:47:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Have these two interacted since like minute 15?

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy how long they're apart.

[01:47:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Crazy.

[01:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe all right no maybe.

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Vaginas vaginas.

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of vaginas.

[01:47:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[01:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's another thing you told me I was crazy for reading into

[01:48:00] [SPEAKER_03]: and now you have to admit that I was right.

[01:48:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate that you cut from.

[01:48:05] [SPEAKER_06]: The vagina.

[01:48:06] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I like his language though.

[01:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Those do look like plural hoods though.

[01:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Do they not?

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Clutoral hoods.

[01:48:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes enough about the vaginas.

[01:48:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Clutoral.

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah okay.

[01:48:15] [SPEAKER_06]: You got the droid arm factory sequence 10 minutes of shit.

[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_06]: One little scene of admin admin can impact me.

[01:48:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah right.

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And then 15 more minutes of this.

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And he said he was watching the cut and he went oh not enough action.

[01:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He had to put the droid factory in even though he knew this was coming.

[01:48:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I don't yeah why do you need the droid factory?

[01:48:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[01:48:36] [SPEAKER_06]: He was talking about momentum and how like the momentum of the movie is just starting

[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_06]: to build up so you need but like that makes no sense.

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and the momentum of the movie is sludge until the droid factory is seen.

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's unending action after this.

[01:48:49] [SPEAKER_03]: This is actually this would be kind of exciting if this was the first big action set piece

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: we were getting.

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_03]: For an hour because this build up is kind of nice and tense with the introduction of the creatures.

[01:48:59] [SPEAKER_06]: I just don't like this stuff because as with phantom menace the stakes are too low.

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Too low.

[01:49:10] [SPEAKER_06]: You just know they're going to get out of there.

[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you know like they got to fight.

[01:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait wait so he said Padme seems to be on top of things now she's on top of a thing go on.

[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So sorry.

[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You know it's like it's too easy.

[01:49:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah look at how quickly two of the three of them have like freed themselves of it.

[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_03]: From their manacles yeah.

[01:49:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah like all three of them came with ease.

[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And it just makes it so annoying like this scene would even be less annoying if it wasn't a

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_06]: staged execution but was just some crazy fighting pit they got themselves like mixed

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_06]: up it right.

[01:49:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Instead it's like really this this is the plausible like you know how they decide to like just shoot

[01:49:55] [SPEAKER_06]: them.

[01:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I do really hate the rip of the fabric that exposes only Padme's mid-drift.

[01:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very only leave scars on her back so her tummy still looks fuckable.

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Look there are those are three people who are not in the same room.

[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh you got a Poggle and Boba.

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I do kind of like the lack of music in this scene.

[01:50:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I like when Georgie pulls it out and you're just hearing the sound effects.

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I like when Newt Gunray is like to shoot her and no one responds to him.

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like no that's why doesn't Bo Django just go like.

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the first reasonable suggestion I've ever made.

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I had a Padme action figure she came with the pillar.

[01:50:43] [SPEAKER_06]: What a great thing for her to come with.

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I guess Padme doesn't have a lot.

[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[01:50:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Like she has that cool gun in Phantom.

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of slender or pistol.

[01:50:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And she had whatever blaster she uses in this.

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She's such a tiny woman it was like the pillar took up most of the package.

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: She does have a very nice yeah.

[01:51:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Some dude growling.

[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Is the implication that he's like controlling it with the force that he was able to do it

[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_03]: with the force?

[01:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Not really.

[01:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Or is that just a human being going like steady steady.

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I think it was more just horsey.

[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_06]: This seems sucks.

[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah this movie sucks.

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's a bad movie.

[01:51:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Is there anyone who's like look I don't love Attack of the Clones but the fighting pit sequence

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_06]: with the animals.

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah the the Geonosis Arena sequence.

[01:51:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus.

[01:51:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay what do you think is Yuma Gregor's worst film now that we've gone through his

[01:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: whole filmography?

[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the worst film that Yuma Gregor has been in?

[01:51:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Is this it?

[01:51:52] [SPEAKER_06]: That's probably this one let me that's a great question though.

[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there any chance.

[01:51:55] [SPEAKER_06]: She's been in some crappy movies.

[01:51:56] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah is there any I hate robots I can tell you.

[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I've never seen robots mostly because it looks so yeah.

[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:52:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Robots is terrible.

[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen Mordecai.

[01:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: We haven't seen we I mean we have seen Mordecai.

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: We do.

[01:52:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Although I don't want to turn into like how to disgeb made you know.

[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: On that thing we have to do a Mordecai episode of the podcast.

[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: We need to watch it.

[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You're saying we need to see Mordecai.

[01:52:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think some things we keep for ourselves.

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to just focus on movies that are bad.

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not what we're here to do.

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Totally agree.

[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Having seen Amelia.

[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Amelia is a god awful.

[01:52:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Really?

[01:52:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's that bad?

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It's very pretty though.

[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_06]: It's prettier than this movie.

[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_06]: So.

[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I wait.

[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Hold on.

[01:52:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha.

[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: This party's over.

[01:52:54] [SPEAKER_06]: It is funny that it I'm going to say this one.

[01:52:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It is funny that this movie took like this long to remember like oh yeah.

[01:53:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Samuel L Jackson you know.

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_06]: He can deliver a line.

[01:53:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It took two movies for them to remember.

[01:53:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no it's super battle droids.

[01:53:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh Django.

[01:53:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh this is going to be such a cool fight.

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god Mace window Django.

[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Finally two people.

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I love the atmosphere.

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I do like that Django lights his outer cloak on fire.

[01:53:36] [SPEAKER_06]: So he has to kind of.

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Strip down to the yeah.

[01:53:39] [SPEAKER_06]: You know in theory this should be kind of cool.

[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Why would he even bring the outer cloak?

[01:53:42] [SPEAKER_06]: He knows he's here for a fight.

[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Some of these guys have outer cloak.

[01:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them don't.

[01:53:47] [SPEAKER_06]: The ones who do are just.

[01:53:49] [SPEAKER_06]: The way this is animated is so bad because it's obviously all these stun actors.

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh wait but Dave it's only really funny he's happening.

[01:53:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait David they put that it's not sitting here.

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a battle droid.

[01:54:01] [SPEAKER_06]: But like look just try like there's so many scenes of these background Jedi

[01:54:04] [SPEAKER_06]: it's literally just doing this.

[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Like.

[01:54:08] [SPEAKER_06]: We're kind of waving an arm around just trying to look in the background

[01:54:11] [SPEAKER_06]: and they've just sort of tried to match battle droid deaths to those random waves

[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and it looks really crappy.

[01:54:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Not to mention that it's like clearly they just like had three days where they were like

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_03]: okay who's our 1015 yeah yeah like I came in and did five minutes of lightsaber fighting

[01:54:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and then they just copy pasted him in the background a bunch of times.

[01:54:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally.

[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah this scene is frankly weird.

[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_06]: The 3pio thing is kind of funny.

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm programmed but etiquette not to disrupt.

[01:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Why would a etiquette program him for etiquette?

[01:54:49] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just look come on it'll never make sense.

[01:54:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Aniket doesn't have good manners what does he know about etiquette?

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Jedi in close up are pretty cool.

[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[01:54:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Right here I think.

[01:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Look how much better the framing is of that shot that's entirely digital

[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_03]: than the ones that are half and half.

[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_06]: You know the pterodactyl guy just got shot.

[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That guy sucks.

[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Jango does cool pistols those two actors aren't in the same frame.

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No not at all.

[01:55:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that run where Migg just has the lightsaber all the way out to the side

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_03]: and at first I thought that looked goofy but it's like no you want to hold away from your body

[01:55:28] [SPEAKER_03]: it could hurt you.

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[01:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's like.

[01:55:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Here we go so I forgot that first Jango gets like trampled because it has to kill his jet pack

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_06]: right that's the idea.

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Then he shoots this guy.

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Right in the face.

[01:55:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Kind of cool.

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Kind of cool.

[01:55:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Turns around.

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Jetpacking work.

[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the battle we're waiting for.

[01:55:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Miss Windu, Jango he's deflecting the bullets with his shield and he oh no.

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you see I do get that like yeah you see his jet pack ignite so he's obviously like

[01:56:03] [SPEAKER_06]: all right I'm out of here.

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And it doesn't work.

[01:56:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a shitty version of the the Raiders thing with the Kyra Swordsman.

[01:56:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Well everything's a shitty version of that.

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh god.

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_06]: What did I say?

[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Did you eat that interview with Anthony Daniels in The Guardian?

[01:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay that was really good.

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Anthony Daniels is like kind of famously a dick right?

[01:56:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I know.

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And here's another thing he hates Kenny Baker who plays R2D2.

[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Why does he hate him?

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He's constantly like.

[01:56:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it just because R2D2 is a jerk?

[01:56:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah R2D2 is a jerk and he's a method actor.

[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No Anthony Daniels hates Kenny Baker and when they're like asked to do like

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_03]: events together.

[01:56:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It meant together yeah.

[01:56:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like I won't be next to him because he like doesn't think that Kenny Baker like

[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: he's acting.

[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like I'm an actor Kenny Baker is like running remote control in a box.

[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You're fine.

[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He has negotiations.

[01:57:05] [SPEAKER_06]: These scenes are kind of horrible where the Jedi basically like cutting up these

[01:57:09] [SPEAKER_06]: poor monsters too.

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes it's disgusting.

[01:57:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Because these monsters are basically like just enslaved by the Geonossians.

[01:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Well if you remember when I did my Wikipedia research on the reek.

[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.

[01:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a creature that only turns red when it's like prodded and tortured.

[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:57:25] [SPEAKER_06]: They're like you know.

[01:57:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe this is just elaborate commentary on like bullfighting.

[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like bullfighting.

[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you ever been to bullfight?

[01:57:33] [SPEAKER_06]: No once it was the worst.

[01:57:35] [SPEAKER_06]: You went once?

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy yeah I mean we've been to Spain and I remember my dad being like

[01:57:40] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah you don't want to see that shit like you know he maybe had seen when

[01:57:44] [SPEAKER_06]: he was just like it's gross you know.

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been like a monk in the south of France when I was young and we went to a bullfight

[01:57:53] [SPEAKER_03]: and it was it was awful.

[01:57:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We hated it.

[01:57:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I can only imagine I mean.

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_03]: There was a lot of other stuff that was like goofy like clown stuff.

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure right right right.

[01:58:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They got to where like this is kind of far.

[01:58:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Because how much could there possibly be a bullfight yeah.

[01:58:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know when the bull comes out they like take spears and they're

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: like the stands are stabbing the bull so the bull slowly bleeding out as

[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: they're making him mad.

[01:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Um but it was just like you just see blood all over the awful.

[01:58:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That's terrible.

[01:58:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It was worse than tackle clowns.

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_04]: So this is a scene where they are like I guess surrendering.

[01:58:31] [SPEAKER_06]: A dooku says a bunch of nonsense about the archives.

[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_06]: So what daddy is at this point like what are they gonna do take him prisoner?

[01:58:39] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah they're Jedi's that's a bad idea.

[01:58:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like still like 15 of them.

[01:58:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh not be hospitable.

[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of like the battle droids as designs I think the super battle droids are really.

[01:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Super battle droids are better they probably should have just laid with them.

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I like them better than the regular battle droids.

[01:59:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh see I strongly disagree.

[01:59:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the original ones.

[01:59:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I like their weird poopy diaper walks.

[01:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate them.

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Super battle droids make sense to me something you would build.

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Battle droids make no sense to me something you would build.

[01:59:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Because they're so shitty.

[01:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and they're really flimsy.

[01:59:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Like they you feel like a child throwing rocks could kill them.

[01:59:26] [SPEAKER_06]: This is kind of a cool shot and like some of the stuff of the clone troopers like not

[01:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: troopers themselves but their equipment yeah he's kind of like awe inspiring and I know that's

[01:59:39] [SPEAKER_06]: the idea like you're supposed to be like wow like you know.

[01:59:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I hope the Grinch of the Sith gives us the fucking clone wars we're asking for.

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the way this is a movie we.

[01:59:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah but you know it won't.

[01:59:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I know it won't.

[01:59:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah like I know it's like funny and shit but like it's not good.

[01:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I know because I saw three years here's the thing.

[01:59:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I actually never wanted it to do that.

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't want a clone wars movie that badly.

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I want a movie set during the clone wars.

[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say I want an entire movie of war.

[02:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I've already said that I don't like war wars are not interesting.

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I think more time is interesting maybe.

[02:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think setting a movie before war starts and after war starts makes sense for a franchise.

[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I want a movie to see how these characters deal during war time

[02:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: when everything is something to disarray you know.

[02:00:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I guess so.

[02:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: If to coup.

[02:00:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It is I mean insane how George was confining up to name a character something that's so similar

[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: to do-do.

[02:00:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That guy should be like serious and threatening and menacing.

[02:00:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't he basically have all these names like written in like old notebooks like

[02:00:50] [SPEAKER_06]: isn't that where he gets all this shit from.

[02:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the weird moment where they push Pat may have a ship right.

[02:00:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I don't think because I recently rewatched that I don't think they actually push her out.

[02:01:06] [SPEAKER_06]: She just kind of falls out.

[02:01:07] [SPEAKER_06]: All right so here's this interesting weird like tech room.

[02:01:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah and this makes no sense they're caught off guard by the clone army right.

[02:01:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So that suggests that like Sidious whatever Sidious played Sipa Diaz to order the clone army.

[02:01:33] [SPEAKER_06]: He played Dooku together the other army.

[02:01:36] [SPEAKER_06]: It makes no sense.

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't make any sense.

[02:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I get that the idea is it's supposed to be like a Reichstag fire like he creates

[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_06]: a crisis so bad only he could solve it but like it doesn't it there's too many moving

[02:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: pieces.

[02:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: His allies to be in on it as well.

[02:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: What would I do by not I don't know having them be beaten.

[02:01:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not cute that Yoda is like backward syntax that he shouts like military commands in it.

[02:02:04] [SPEAKER_06]: It's not cute during war when it's like you need a where he's like around the survivors of

[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_06]: perimeter create like shut up.

[02:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: What's like you need to be super clear with your commands because lives are depending on

[02:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I see that weird fake zoom in I hate these weird.

[02:02:27] [SPEAKER_06]: These things are weird because you've seen them before but you don't really know what

[02:02:31] [SPEAKER_06]: they are.

[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Are they like the centers of the donor chips.

[02:02:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh maybe that's what they're supposed to be.

[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_06]: They like maybe I like this guy that walks like a turtle.

[02:02:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah but like here's a question that's ever answered.

[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Spinny disc was Kamino building and also in the extras they talk about this that like

[02:02:57] [SPEAKER_06]: literally everyone just made scenes of war chaos.

[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_06]: George Lucas just picked what was best.

[02:03:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah they were usually designed to be so fucking disconnected.

[02:03:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh this is just stuff happening.

[02:03:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it's just crazy stuff happening.

[02:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But like all right the Kaminoans made the clones did they call the warships.

[02:03:14] [SPEAKER_06]: No it's a different planet.

[02:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Dave why are you asking such a stupid question.

[02:03:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Like no one explains like how because it's more important than the clones is this crazy

[02:03:23] [SPEAKER_06]: war infrastructure.

[02:03:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Now what did you say you'd call this red thing.

[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_06]: What I call this red thing.

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah the killer sphere what do you call it.

[02:03:33] [SPEAKER_06]: That thing.

[02:03:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh it's like a you had a name for it on the episode.

[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a death planet right.

[02:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a like a killer star or something like that.

[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a like a death planet killer star death star star planet that planets don't like that.

[02:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It's weird how.

[02:03:48] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a combination of those words.

[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's weird how the great design though you have to admit very cool.

[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice clean simple economics.

[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_06]: It's just funny that the bug people are like it turns out there like the master designers.

[02:04:01] [SPEAKER_06]: This is like the West Elm planet.

[02:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: West Elm planet.

[02:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: David I miss when we were talking about Mordecai.

[02:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry look at pictures of Mordecai.

[02:04:13] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the thing about Mordecai and minions.

[02:04:16] [SPEAKER_06]: There's no way those movies are as funny as just the idea of them right.

[02:04:22] [SPEAKER_06]: You think Mordecai is that funny.

[02:04:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I think Mordecai has to be that funny.

[02:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think watching Mordecai every minute it continues to go on.

[02:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I will be cracking up at the fact that it's still happening.

[02:04:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I take so much time.

[02:04:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Do you remember when Johnny Depp was the coolest guy on the planet.

[02:04:42] [SPEAKER_06]: He was so cool.

[02:04:43] [SPEAKER_06]: He was like he could do no wrong after Pirates of the Caribbean.

[02:04:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But do you even remember his test before Pirates of the Caribbean was like

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: he's so underrated.

[02:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah totally.

[02:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The actor of his generation never gets recognized by the Oscars.

[02:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: All his movies flop.

[02:04:57] [SPEAKER_06]: So good.

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Depp in the 90s.

[02:04:59] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like this cool cult hero.

[02:05:00] [SPEAKER_06]: You know I love Depp in the 90s.

[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I love Edward is one of my favorite movies.

[02:05:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Same here one of my 10 favorite movies ever.

[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Dead Man is like one of the greatest movies in the 90s.

[02:05:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you've seen Dead Man.

[02:05:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes of course.

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a great movie.

[02:05:12] [SPEAKER_06]: I like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

[02:05:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a little tiresome but he's you know he's very good in it.

[02:05:17] [SPEAKER_06]: He's amazing in Donny Brasco.

[02:05:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Great 90s career.

[02:05:22] [SPEAKER_06]: But even like Edward's is your hands obviously.

[02:05:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but I was going to say even like Gilbert Grape is a very good role model.

[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Gilbert Grape is good at performing.

[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

[02:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what he hasn't been able to do since then.

[02:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Now he either does like Ham sandwich or when he's not doing Ham sandwich he's like barely

[02:05:38] [SPEAKER_03]: registered.

[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like stoned.

[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He's like sleep well.

[02:05:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I love him in Sleepy Hollow that's a really fun comedic performance.

[02:05:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Now he made some weird movies like The Astronaut's Wife and The Ninth Gate.

[02:05:47] [SPEAKER_06]: They're not all great.

[02:05:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah you know literally you know but like you can see in Don Juan de Marco that's a

[02:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: great movie.

[02:05:52] [SPEAKER_06]: Have you seen that?

[02:05:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[02:05:53] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a great movie.

[02:05:54] [SPEAKER_06]: He's fantastic in that movie.

[02:05:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Chocolat okay he's phoning that in.

[02:06:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Blow it's kind of a dull movie.

[02:06:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah he's pretty good in that.

[02:06:04] [SPEAKER_06]: That's alright.

[02:06:04] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:06:05] [SPEAKER_06]: From hell that's like so okay that's when people are like what's he gonna do.

[02:06:09] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he makes pirates.

[02:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: But his career is at a weird crossword where it's like he's a leading man.

[02:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: He just falls out.

[02:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah she just falls out but they don't.

[02:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Um yeah.

[02:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You see.

[02:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a leading man but his films don't do well.

[02:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's respected but he's not an Oscar player.

[02:06:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And then he makes pirates and people like yeah well this is a weird movie that won't do well

[02:06:26] [SPEAKER_06]: and instead it's a huge movie and he gets an Oscar nomination.

[02:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Right so Kit and Kaboodle now.

[02:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's finally respected by the Oscar.

[02:06:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember the same year as Once Upon a Time in Mexico which he's so great in.

[02:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Not a good movie.

[02:06:37] [SPEAKER_06]: He's very good.

[02:06:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Not a good movie.

[02:06:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And then 2004.

[02:06:41] [SPEAKER_06]: So he makes a bunch of shit.

[02:06:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Secret window, Finding Neverland and the Libertine.

[02:06:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It leaves no dent because Finding Neverland which is horrendous.

[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_06]: But he gets the best Oscar nomination.

[02:06:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah exactly.

[02:06:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I defend.

[02:06:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.

[02:06:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I defend.

[02:06:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Chris Pili's pretty funny in it.

[02:06:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Is really getting it.

[02:07:00] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I really want we have to do an episode on Pirates of the Caribbean world

[02:07:03] [SPEAKER_06]: send which I think is like secretly amazing.

[02:07:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh I would love to do that.

[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_06]: You could do the second one too but.

[02:07:08] [SPEAKER_06]: No I wouldn't do the second one.

[02:07:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So the second one's really terrible.

[02:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You for my whole stand a bit about Pirate of the Caribbean 3 right?

[02:07:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah oh yeah it's actually very funny.

[02:07:17] [SPEAKER_06]: You guys should listen to it.

[02:07:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I think Sweeney Todd is incredibly good at.

[02:07:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I love that.

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I love that performance and I really like that movie.

[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I love Public Enemies.

[02:07:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a Michael Mann.

[02:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I like Public Enemies a lot.

[02:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't love it.

[02:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I like Black Hat more.

[02:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I like Love Black Hat.

[02:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Love them both.

[02:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Black Hat rules.

[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright okay.

[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a little.

[02:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not.

[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Christian Bale is the star of Public Enemies.

[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_06]: American Terror Cats.

[02:07:41] [SPEAKER_06]: She's great.

[02:07:41] [SPEAKER_06]: She's great.

[02:07:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Although she's playing such a shitty.

[02:07:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay so all of a sudden lightning.

[02:07:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Really like the look of the lightning I want to say that.

[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah blue lightning is cool.

[02:07:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Really cool.

[02:07:51] [SPEAKER_06]: And Dooku like like I said Christopher Lee.

[02:07:55] [SPEAKER_06]: He's fantastic.

[02:07:56] [SPEAKER_06]: He's he projects so much authority.

[02:07:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:08:05] [SPEAKER_06]: He's just got present when I had this movie on DVD and I would just watch this scene over and over again.

[02:08:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Which is crazy because this scene is bad but at the time.

[02:08:17] [SPEAKER_06]: And even though Christopher Lee I think is probably only doing a little bit of this.

[02:08:21] [SPEAKER_06]: They do a pretty good job integrating him into the fight.

[02:08:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:08:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Ah that smile I love him.

[02:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Love Christopher Lee.

[02:08:31] [SPEAKER_06]: They do shoot around him.

[02:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: They do well.

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_06]: They do a good job.

[02:08:37] [SPEAKER_06]: So to her in the desert just like surrounded by cartoon people.

[02:08:41] [SPEAKER_06]: Cool.

[02:08:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh cool.

[02:08:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to be involved in any of the major.

[02:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And battle.

[02:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay cool.

[02:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just stay here with you.

[02:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And now she's a military leader.

[02:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey he's he's not allowed.

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Her running is really bad too.

[02:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So his arms already been cut off at this point?

[02:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[02:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: No it hasn't.

[02:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: No he just lightened him.

[02:09:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that smoke coming out.

[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh it was just from the from the lightning.

[02:09:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[02:09:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this the CGI of this is horrible.

[02:09:18] [SPEAKER_04]: That jump is.

[02:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh that's what I was.

[02:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh a double lightsaber.

[02:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So.

[02:09:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But they have to shoot it from so far away.

[02:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And then so quickly they get rid of it.

[02:09:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It's pretty cool what Anakin just for no reason cuts the power to the ship.

[02:09:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah that is cool.

[02:09:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it's pretty cool.

[02:09:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Sparks are cool.

[02:09:46] [SPEAKER_06]: But this is just badly pales in comparison to the last fight.

[02:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom has a great fight.

[02:09:52] [SPEAKER_03]: God you know what.

[02:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: One final time is making me realize how much I love Phantom.

[02:09:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom's great.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom's got the pod race.

[02:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[02:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's got two good set pieces.

[02:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's got two great set pieces.

[02:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: This is actually.

[02:10:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It's got a lot more water.

[02:10:08] [SPEAKER_06]: That's horrible.

[02:10:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Dumb dumb.

[02:10:11] [SPEAKER_06]: It's weird it's not.

[02:10:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah Christopher Lee they make him work against it.

[02:10:15] [SPEAKER_06]: We want to for some reason they can't animate him interestingly against Anakin.

[02:10:19] [SPEAKER_06]: That fight is very stilted.

[02:10:21] [SPEAKER_06]: But then the union doesn't matter.

[02:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: So I mean I remember seeing it in the theater.

[02:10:24] [SPEAKER_06]: We haven't talked about this.

[02:10:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I saw this in the theater.

[02:10:27] [SPEAKER_06]: People went ballistic.

[02:10:28] [SPEAKER_06]: It was just pandemonium.

[02:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It was chaos.

[02:10:29] [SPEAKER_06]: It was Biel Maynard.

[02:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I don't even remember seeing it.

[02:10:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I just remember everyone was just screaming.

[02:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I certainly know that I couldn't hear any of it.

[02:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I ever heard an audience react like that to anything ever.

[02:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Me neither.

[02:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's amazing because this is universally regarded as a horrible scene.

[02:10:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true.

[02:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But like at the time it killed.

[02:10:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It was the thing.

[02:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like people were like I know you didn't like the last movie.

[02:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[02:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: But you got to see this final scene.

[02:10:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's worth it just for the final scene.

[02:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it won the fucking MTV Movie Award.

[02:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: The most prestigious of all awards.

[02:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It won Best Fight at the MTV Movie Award.

[02:11:03] [SPEAKER_06]: But the weirdest thing is Lucas didn't want to do it.

[02:11:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Who's idea was it?

[02:11:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know but it was basically I think eventually.

[02:11:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah it was.

[02:11:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Because you know in Phantom originally Yoda doesn't pop it.

[02:11:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And like Lucas had to be prevailed on that they could do Yoda.

[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Digitally.

[02:11:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And apparently he was initially like I don't think so.

[02:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and people were going insane.

[02:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You couldn't even see the screen because there was so much calm.

[02:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm talking about.

[02:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just calm shooting at the screen.

[02:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just and I saw it in Britain.

[02:11:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't matter like pandemonium.

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw Times Square opening day.

[02:11:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I went right after school opening day.

[02:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw it with Skyler Reddick.

[02:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone I haven't spoken to in 10 years.

[02:11:48] [SPEAKER_06]: It's quite a line.

[02:11:50] [SPEAKER_06]: It's like such a labored line and he somehow manages to sell it.

[02:11:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Here we go.

[02:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yoda's comeback should be lucky for you.

[02:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I practiced my saber technique as much as Anakin practices his wit.

[02:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: What if that was his retort?

[02:12:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Be great.

[02:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: All right so the problem with this is.

[02:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm watching this right now and I'm yawning.

[02:12:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Yoda is just sort of moving around and it's sort of the problem I was describing earlier.

[02:12:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Christopher Lee is waving his lightsaber in general direction.

[02:12:21] [SPEAKER_06]: And they're trying to match Yoda to it.

[02:12:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:12:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Because obviously there was no Yoda.

[02:12:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:12:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And it works 20% of the time.

[02:12:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's there's so many seams.

[02:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I was losing it at this point.

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[02:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't hear this dialogue.

[02:12:43] [SPEAKER_03]: People were still just people were getting married in theater.

[02:12:49] [SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy like there's like two minutes left.

[02:12:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I know.

[02:12:53] [SPEAKER_06]: That's basically it.

[02:12:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But people are even cheering this part like they weren't angry about the fact that Dooku

[02:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: was getting away.

[02:12:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They were cheering that oh my god Yoda can fucking lift that thing.

[02:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then this was the part where people go bullet.

[02:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The biggest laugh I've ever heard in a movie theater coming out.

[02:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh when he says the gun is called warheads.

[02:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[02:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: No that got gasps.

[02:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh it's this final Yoda moment coming up.

[02:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Dooku is such a dick.

[02:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great performance but he's such a dick.

[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: This ship's pretty cool.

[02:13:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It ships great.

[02:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I love that ship.

[02:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: With his weird sails.

[02:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This this got the biggest laugh.

[02:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Just when he picked.

[02:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh and now he's back to walking.

[02:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Now he's back to being an old man.

[02:13:47] [SPEAKER_03]: People want bananas.

[02:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah well this is.

[02:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like Eddie Murphy raw.

[02:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yoda came out and skin tight.

[02:13:54] [SPEAKER_03]: He had another jumpsuit.

[02:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: God.

[02:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we talk about Eddie Murphy raw?

[02:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Can I just talk about this for a second because I've heard about this a lot.

[02:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Just how different like our cultural landscape has changed.

[02:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying this in like the like complaining like the fucking PC way.

[02:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going thank God but like just to point how accepted this was at the time.

[02:14:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The first track off of Delirious is the second one.

[02:14:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Raw's the first one.

[02:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Raw's.

[02:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Raw's.

[02:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember which comes.

[02:14:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think Delirious is first but anyway go on.

[02:14:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Whichever the first one was.

[02:14:28] [SPEAKER_03]: The first track on that album is just called Faggots.

[02:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I know.

[02:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay no one had a problem with it.

[02:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[02:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I know.

[02:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I know some people have a problem with it.

[02:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: No no no.

[02:14:37] [SPEAKER_06]: 90% of the population was like.

[02:14:38] [SPEAKER_06]: That's comedy who cares.

[02:14:39] [SPEAKER_06]: That bit is really tough to listen to.

[02:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Really tough to listen to.

[02:14:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't really listen to it anymore.

[02:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what the first track on the second album is called Faggots Revisit.

[02:14:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah right now.

[02:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah yeah yeah.

[02:14:47] [SPEAKER_06]: He wasn't done.

[02:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: He had to come back to the world.

[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He had so much more to say.

[02:14:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Well because it's like not to you know but it's at the time like gay culture is going from

[02:14:57] [SPEAKER_06]: being like basically an underground only heard of thing.

[02:15:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:15:01] [SPEAKER_06]: To like a visible thing and he's talking basically about a sphere of that right.

[02:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[02:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Like he's like oh my god they're gonna like sneak up behind me.

[02:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Basically like his joke.

[02:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Right his points are that I find it gross when my girlfriends hang out with gay guys.

[02:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[02:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Because maybe they'll get AIDS.

[02:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: She'll get AIDS from that.

[02:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Right isn't that one of the jokes he makes.

[02:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I swear to god.

[02:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're kissing their gay friends.

[02:15:20] [SPEAKER_06]: We're ending the episode on Eddie Murphy's.

[02:15:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway I mean I.

[02:15:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Eddie Murphy's gay right.

[02:15:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He's super gay.

[02:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Eddie Murphy's gay no question that's why he did it.

[02:15:30] [SPEAKER_06]: He's gonna sue us.

[02:15:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I hope I really want to work with Eddie Murphy.

[02:15:35] [SPEAKER_06]: He's a very funny man but I honestly can't listen to raw or delirious.

[02:15:39] [SPEAKER_06]: I fast forward through those scenes.

[02:15:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Or as I can listen to like prior you know even older comics like.

[02:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It's tough to listen to that stuff.

[02:15:47] [SPEAKER_06]: No I fast forward through those parts.

[02:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Throw in the dark side you too has no there are absolutely.

[02:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The McDonald's bits so incredible.

[02:15:52] [SPEAKER_03]: All the Elvis bit is I think one of the funniest things in history.

[02:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Lemonade.

[02:15:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yoda's just sitting in a chair.

[02:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He's singing his poo poo chair.

[02:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Well okay so this is the end.

[02:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we don't have it because we have the credits to talk over.

[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's.

[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I was gonna try to get final thoughts but we can say our final thoughts for a second.

[02:16:12] [SPEAKER_06]: My final thoughts are I'm really happy and honored to work with you.

[02:16:15] [SPEAKER_06]: This movie is far worse than the first.

[02:16:17] [SPEAKER_06]: No question I love it.

[02:16:18] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna man us now.

[02:16:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I know that if I watched Phantom Manus I'd be like oh right no I don't like this one either but

[02:16:24] [SPEAKER_06]: I've always felt that it's better than that.

[02:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:16:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean maybe not when I saw Club.

[02:16:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah no I'm not disagreeing with you.

[02:16:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just I'm checking my own mental history.

[02:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I thought this was the best one when I saw.

[02:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Of all.

[02:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Of any movie ever made yeah.

[02:16:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

[02:16:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Dumb dumb dumb.

[02:16:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah this is the cartoon scene of the con.

[02:16:53] [SPEAKER_06]: Eddie Valiant's pulling his hair out.

[02:16:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't matter.

[02:16:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a tone.

[02:16:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so exhausted.

[02:17:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like so tired.

[02:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I got like four hours of sleep last night.

[02:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

[02:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I knew I was going to watch this movie on that amount of energy and it was just

[02:17:09] [SPEAKER_03]: gonna knock the shit out of me.

[02:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a taxing film for us.

[02:17:13] [SPEAKER_06]: It really is.

[02:17:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I think this is the first time I've watched it through in a few weeks.

[02:17:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Same here because I've been watching only the pertinent sections.

[02:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Man I am excited to see revenge of the Sith.

[02:17:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm excited to see?

[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Revenge of the Smiths.

[02:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about who's on screen right here.

[02:17:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Smith is gonna he's gonna kill it.

[02:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: All right so here we are.

[02:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like fourth build okay.

[02:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: This is kind of nice and you know why because it's a real place.

[02:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's Son and there's Fauna.

[02:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Very nice.

[02:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Very nice.

[02:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a nice dress.

[02:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And the music's good.

[02:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Who's this officiating the ceremony?

[02:17:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's Eddie Murphy.

[02:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know I wish the last shot of the movie was?

[02:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: They hold hands.

[02:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They like you know this right?

[02:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what I wish the end of the movie was.

[02:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we pan up?

[02:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh beautiful.

[02:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Her veil.

[02:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: They kiss.

[02:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He's still got his dumb rat tail.

[02:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever you want.

[02:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: C3P on R2D2 are staying there as witnesses.

[02:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Then we go back to that guy who was officiating with like his hood.

[02:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like who is he?

[02:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And he like walks away in the shadows and then he like turns around.

[02:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like one last look takes off his hood.

[02:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's George's forgy.

[02:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And he winks to the camera.

[02:18:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And he gives an okay.

[02:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: No I think.

[02:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: A classic buckwheat.

[02:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[02:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that would have been good.

[02:18:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's an iris in on him.

[02:18:22] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that would have been good.

[02:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: But what if it was Qui-Gon?

[02:18:25] [SPEAKER_06]: That's all folks.

[02:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Who's Qui-Gon?

[02:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: One of those Qui-Gon that would be great too.

[02:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: What if it was Georgie, Porgy and Qui-Gon together?

[02:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait there we go.

[02:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: They're stacked on top of each other.

[02:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

[02:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So the final shot is they're winning.

[02:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Directed by Georgey.

[02:18:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Directed by Georgey.

[02:18:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Story by George.

[02:18:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Produced by Georgey.

[02:18:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Cut off no no no.

[02:18:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Cut this bit out right now.

[02:18:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't want that.

[02:18:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Because wait, billing order.

[02:18:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm always excited by the billing order.

[02:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You know how excited I get about billing order.

[02:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so McGregor's first we know that right?

[02:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's McGregor, Portman, Christensen.

[02:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[02:18:57] [SPEAKER_06]: I agree with you.

[02:18:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Menkersfer Lee is my guess.

[02:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You think Samuel Jackson still has the ant?

[02:19:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe Samuel Jackson's fourth.

[02:19:03] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a fair point.

[02:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: All right let's see.

[02:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's got a bigger role in this one.

[02:19:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[02:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's my big bet.

[02:19:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think McDermott's usually got a big

[02:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: billing.

[02:19:15] [SPEAKER_03]: He's usually high up.

[02:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so, McGregor's first.

[02:19:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Starring McGregor.

[02:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:19:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Well learned.

[02:19:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Yep.

[02:19:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Worked for his supper.

[02:19:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Natalie Portman.

[02:19:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Number two.

[02:19:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Numero dos.

[02:19:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Three Christensen.

[02:19:28] [SPEAKER_04]: There he is.

[02:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay fourth.

[02:19:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Samuel Jackson I'm gonna go.

[02:19:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And Frank Oz's Yoda.

[02:19:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[02:19:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And then

[02:19:37] [SPEAKER_06]: close star.

[02:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: McDermott and McGregor.

[02:19:39] [SPEAKER_06]: August.

[02:19:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Seniority is really important.

[02:19:42] [SPEAKER_06]: On the best.

[02:19:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Over four days.

[02:19:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Davies to more Morrison.

[02:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Anthony Daniels.

[02:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Simon Carson.

[02:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Kenny Baker.

[02:19:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And Samuel Jackson's Mace Wyndon.

[02:19:51] [SPEAKER_03]: With Samuel Jackson.

[02:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And Chris Verley.

[02:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And Chris Verley's Count to.

[02:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Slash Darth Darenis.

[02:19:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a weird billing, bro.

[02:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Weird billing.

[02:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Weird billing, bro.

[02:20:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I love some weird billing.

[02:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[02:20:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You loved at trivia.

[02:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Your guess round was weird billing.

[02:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a good round.

[02:20:08] [SPEAKER_06]: It was hard.

[02:20:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think people didn't do it well here.

[02:20:10] [SPEAKER_06]: It was real tough.

[02:20:12] [SPEAKER_07]: So.

[02:20:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Final thoughts?

[02:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: Final thoughts.

[02:20:15] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the credit tool.

[02:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: James McTeague first assistant director.

[02:20:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, went on to make V for Vendetta.

[02:20:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And then some shitty movies.

[02:20:22] [SPEAKER_06]: V for Vendetta is a shitty movie but okay.

[02:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I loved it when I was 15.

[02:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen it recently?

[02:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Nope because I don't want to kill my memories.

[02:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a piece of shit.

[02:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Um but it's better than.

[02:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So are some of the two attack reports.

[02:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Well and also better than the other movies he did after that.

[02:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He did Ninja Assassin.

[02:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't believe I've seen Ninja Assassin.

[02:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And he did the Raven in which John Cusack

[02:20:43] [SPEAKER_03]: please add ground Poe trying to solve.

[02:20:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Murder mystery.

[02:20:47] [SPEAKER_06]: He also made Survivor this year.

[02:20:50] [SPEAKER_06]: He made with the season of Survivor on Zubia.

[02:20:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Starring Pierce Brosnan and Mila Javovich.

[02:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

[02:20:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Dylan McDermott, Angela Bassett and Robert Forster

[02:21:01] [SPEAKER_06]: which like as much as I like all of those actors

[02:21:04] [SPEAKER_06]: they are a real kind of a problem.

[02:21:07] [SPEAKER_06]: When Robert Forster is getting billing on your poster

[02:21:10] [SPEAKER_06]: that's not good.

[02:21:12] [SPEAKER_06]: He made Ninja Assassin.

[02:21:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:21:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I did not see Ninja Assassin.

[02:21:16] [SPEAKER_06]: No one saw Ninja Assassin.

[02:21:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[02:21:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And then you've got uh yeah Vendetta and the Raven.

[02:21:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And I believe he's also the director who cleaned up the invasion

[02:21:28] [SPEAKER_06]: which was the um you know Oliver Hershbuckle

[02:21:30] [SPEAKER_06]: The interesting.

[02:21:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Movie in which like Oliver Hershbuckle was like fired from.

[02:21:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:21:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Before I forget why.

[02:21:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Because it was a boring movie.

[02:21:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And he had made Downfall.

[02:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[02:21:41] [SPEAKER_03]: First AD on Phantom Menace went on to direct

[02:21:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Battlefield Earth.

[02:21:45] [SPEAKER_06]: I believe he was also oh you're saying right first AD on.

[02:21:49] [SPEAKER_06]: On Phantom Mass.

[02:21:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And James Riktiv was also first AD on the Matrix.

[02:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[02:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: By what I'm saying first AD on Phantom Menace goes on to direct Battlefield Earth.

[02:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: First AD on Attack of the Clones goes on to direct.

[02:22:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Vendetta and just S.

[02:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[02:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The Raven.

[02:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Who do we think was first?

[02:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't look it up.

[02:22:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to look it up though.

[02:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's share a verse engineered from movies.

[02:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the first AD on Revenge of the Sith

[02:22:16] [SPEAKER_03]: was Walt Becker, director of Old Dogs.

[02:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's my bet.

[02:22:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I think it was all of that.

[02:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You just wanted to get in a little plight for uh Walti Becker.

[02:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I love him.

[02:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You know he's doing out on the chip months four.

[02:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Easy.

[02:22:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:22:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh I believe it's called The Road Chip.

[02:22:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep it's coming out this December.

[02:22:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It is no joke in my top five most anticipated movies of the year

[02:22:36] [SPEAKER_03]: because I think he's my favorite like Volker O'Tooare.

[02:22:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's so, his films are horrendous and they were so twisted but they're so clearly the work

[02:22:47] [SPEAKER_03]: of one artist realizing his vision perfectly where he's like a bizarro version of John Waters

[02:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: who somehow is getting away with making kids films.

[02:22:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're films for families.

[02:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that I've ever seen a Walt Becker movie.

[02:23:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They're so perfect.

[02:23:01] [SPEAKER_03]: What did he make?

[02:23:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Old Dogs.

[02:23:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He made Old Dogs.

[02:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He made Wild Hogs.

[02:23:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Wild Hogs that's what I was asking.

[02:23:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Old Dogs, Wild Hogs and Van Wilder.

[02:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: He made Van will be first Van Wilder.

[02:23:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The first Van Wilder.

[02:23:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is quite gross.

[02:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah his movies are gross.

[02:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Van Wilder has a bit where they make a dog fucking a Claire and then he makes a movie

[02:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: the Claire and then Claire's full of Dog Come.

[02:23:20] [SPEAKER_06]: I remember.

[02:23:22] [SPEAKER_06]: And then they let him make kids movies.

[02:23:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Well but like Old Dogs especially is like it's a weird movie.

[02:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah but all these kids movies.

[02:23:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Have I told you the Todd Vanderwerf story about Wild Hogs?

[02:23:31] [SPEAKER_06]: No.

[02:23:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pretty sure I have but it's such a good story anyway.

[02:23:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Todd Vanderwerf who is my former boss at the AB Club of Networks at Vox,

[02:23:38] [SPEAKER_06]: a TV editor at Vox, culture editor at Vox told me his dad, he's from South Dakota.

[02:23:45] [SPEAKER_06]: From like rural South Dakota.

[02:23:47] [SPEAKER_06]: His dad does not see a lot of movies in theaters at least.

[02:23:51] [SPEAKER_06]: They were in a movie theater seeing something.

[02:23:53] [SPEAKER_06]: They saw a trailer for Wild Hogs and you know with Tim Allen,

[02:23:57] [SPEAKER_06]: God Martin Lawrence, William H. Macy, John Travolta I believe.

[02:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a Mercedez-Thomei, Ray Liotta.

[02:24:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah a bunch of sort of middle-aged guys taking a motorcycle.

[02:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Peter Fonda.

[02:24:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah that's the joke right?

[02:24:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:24:08] [SPEAKER_06]: That's the movie.

[02:24:09] [SPEAKER_06]: So they see this trailer.

[02:24:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Todd's dad stands up points at the screen and says we are seeing that movie.

[02:24:17] [SPEAKER_06]: That's that and Todd, I believe I was asking Todd like

[02:24:21] [SPEAKER_06]: God why is Wild Hogs doing so well?

[02:24:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Like who sees that movie?

[02:24:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like well let me tell you.

[02:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how much that movie made domestically?

[02:24:28] [SPEAKER_03]: $170 million.

[02:24:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that about it?

[02:24:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's something.

[02:24:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's $175 million.

[02:24:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah that's crazy.

[02:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Well people love Tim Allen.

[02:24:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah like weirdly.

[02:24:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:24:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Moltbecker is fascinating.

[02:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay we can talk about Moltbecker.

[02:24:42] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll do Moltbecker.

[02:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: This is what I want to say.

[02:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Well that's what I want to say okay.

[02:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So last time.

[02:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Credit to Roman's over.

[02:24:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well that's my point.

[02:24:49] [SPEAKER_03]: We give out the hashtag to prove that you would listen to the whole episode.

[02:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[02:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So ready this time it's a hashtag vote.

[02:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: By the way if you experience any condition that distracted from theatrical presentation.

[02:24:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah 1-800 phone THX.

[02:24:59] [SPEAKER_06]: We did this last time they didn't pick up.

[02:25:01] [SPEAKER_06]: What's the hashtag?

[02:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Our eventual Moltbecker episode.

[02:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Should it be called and maybe it's an episode maybe it's a mini series I don't know.

[02:25:11] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see how much people can tolerate.

[02:25:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:25:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Should it be called old pods?

[02:25:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm good good good start.

[02:25:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Or pod dogs.

[02:25:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Really hard to pick.

[02:25:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I definitely would pick old pods.

[02:25:25] [SPEAKER_06]: But send us your hashtag.

[02:25:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Well that's the point.

[02:25:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Hashtag us with one of the two.

[02:25:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:25:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Old pods or.

[02:25:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Or pod dogs.

[02:25:32] [SPEAKER_06]: It's definitely gonna be old pods.

[02:25:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's put wild pods in there if you want to.

[02:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah wild pods.

[02:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Old pods or wild pods.

[02:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Or if you really want pod dogs.

[02:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[02:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[02:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: What we're going to talk about.

[02:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Not pod wilder.

[02:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[02:25:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Not not.

[02:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The road pod.

[02:25:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Pod chip.

[02:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[02:25:53] [SPEAKER_03]: The film's a walk backer we'll be discussing the future.

[02:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He's our greatest vulgar or tour.

[02:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for listening.

[02:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[02:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: We're done with this movie.

[02:26:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's all promise to never watch it ever again.

[02:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone listening two of us here will never watch.

[02:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Break your blue ray in half which is hard to do.

[02:26:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:26:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Very strong.

[02:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: All right okay signing off.

[02:26:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Signing off.

[02:26:13] [SPEAKER_06]: David Sims, Griffin Newman.

[02:26:15] [SPEAKER_06]: We'll see you next week for what are you calling it?

[02:26:17] [SPEAKER_06]: The Podcastic.

[02:26:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Podcastic too.

[02:26:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And as always.

[02:26:22] [SPEAKER_04]: As always.

[02:26:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Long live Mordecai.

[02:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Mordecai!