Griffin and David, joined once again by director George Lucas, present a special live bonus episode where they watched the Revenge of the Sith and recorded their commentary. Includes amazing past guests, fan favorite segments, plenty of Georgie Porgie attempting to justify these terrible movies, and of course, Griffin and David trying to make sense of it all. So hit play and listen along in real time.
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[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello everybody, I am Griffin.
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm David Sims.
[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Griffin and David Present, Revenge Of The Podcast LIVE.
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for joining us here at Union Hall this excellent night as we prepare to watch.
[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I can speak for both of us, Revenge Of The Sit for our last time.
[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're gonna, I'll never see this movie again.
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the last time.
[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The 11th and last time.
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I've used both of my drink tickets already because that's the only state I want to watch this movie in.
[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if everyone's caught up with the podcast we released in episode today in which we had the guest.
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the big guest we've been aiming for.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: We're finally at the end of the White Whale.
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: From the beginning of this exploration of three films trying to figure out what these movies are about.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: We finally got the White Whale, we got George Lucas on the show.
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I want to bring him out because he's agreed to do the commentary as well.
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But before I do, I think we need to bring out, I mean really the hero of Griffin and David Present.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You want to trade him off?
[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You want to trade him off?
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. He is, you might know him as producer Ben.
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe producer Ben?
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Ben Deucer.
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Poet Laureate.
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: The Haas.
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Hello Fennel.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: The Peeper.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that it?
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The Tiebreaker.
[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The Tiebreaker, there's one more.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You add it.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Positive.
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Positive.
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And the Poet Laureate.
[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I said the Poet Laureate.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody please.
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the stage, producer Ben Haasley.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: AKA producer Ben Kenobi.
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_11]: That was the recent one.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That was made up.
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben, how are you feeling?
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_11]: I am not happy to be watching this again.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_11]: I hate this movie, it sucks.
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_11]: But I don't know, I'm glad that a bunch of people came out to watch so that's cool.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You were positive about the show this afternoon?
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and then I showed up.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Then you showed up.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I came into the bar and the first words he said to me were I'm so angry.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, because nothing was figured out.
[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_11]: You guys didn't plan this.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_11]: So I had to figure it out.
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_11]: So thanks a lot.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Mr. Positive everyone.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It was a great night so far.
[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, producer Ben for a reason.
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And ladies and gentlemen, without further ado I'd like to bring to the stage the mastermind, the architect, the genius.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You want to list his credits?
[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, he directed THX 1138.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Great movie.
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: American graffiti.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Love that movie.
[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: We just found out there was a rough draft in early...
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, some 70's movie.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He test screened a movie in 1977 called Star Wars A New Hope The Special Edition is the title of the movie.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, he could explain.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently he made three Star Wars movies that weren't released until later, but I mean the main reason we're all here tonight is of course the Phantom Mass trilogy.
[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: The Phantom Mass Attack the Clones, Revenge of the Sith.
[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Ladies and gentlemen please welcome to stage Academy Award nominee George Lucas.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you George for being here.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome George.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh complete with lightsaber.
[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: You're own...
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Complete with tiny lightsaber.
[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You've got a chode of a lightsaber there.
[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_10]: That's how you use it.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well we got a stupid long movie to watch so let's just start it without further ado.
[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's get this over with.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on Ben.
[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_03]: George, I mean this is a rare opportunity you have, it's a public screened the film with an audience here, rabid fans.
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there any context you want to give them for how to view this film?
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_10]: You like great movies?
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay George.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_10]: That answer will dictate how you feel about this.
[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so if you're listening at home, this is a 20th Century Fox logo.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We are recording this.
[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Recording this.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: This is an audio commentary that you can listen to at home.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Last time you hear this fanfare before a Star Wars movie.
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Really? So that's, that fanfare is off?
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_10]: It's gone.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow that's incredible.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_10]: When you wish upon a star.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay now credit records do, I like this part.
[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_03]: This part's good.
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: This part's really good.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Super cool.
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I like the subtitles too.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I do too.
[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you give me a subtitle so everyone can read?
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that font can be hard to read.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Because the, bends a little.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you gonna do maybe one last?
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah okay so episode three revenge of the Sith.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean if people are watching along with the movie they can read this.
[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_01]: War!
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an exciting way to start a movie.
[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I like the exclamation point that early on.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Evil is everywhere George.
[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you lead with Count Dooku.
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Count Dooku plays Count Dooku.
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Also do you like the, I justify the text but leave some big spaces sometimes.
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like between Lord and Count and Dooku.
[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you also use a two period rather than a three period ellipsis.
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: To one point.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you given a character limit that you had to hit for this crawl?
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Because it feels like you were trying to hit three people.
[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No this is an indie movie.
[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Indie movies are creator controlled.
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have some studio executive looking over my shoulder.
[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's four periods.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's a little, that's a tip forward to the,
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a little sneak peak of episode four.
[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a conscious choice.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: One for each episode that I would direct.
[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That is incredible.
[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So what you directed for, you're saying you didn't direct the other ones?
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Which ones?
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The ones you made in the 70s or whatever.
[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I test screened New Hope in 77.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Then we did test screenings of Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and then we released all three in one year.
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't finished until the 90s.
[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in 1997.
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh great opening shot.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean at this point a little played out though.
[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You used the same opening shot.
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well it's the ring theory, read that website.
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh great.
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's mirrored.
[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa where those ships come from?
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks great.
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's from underneath though.
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Little surprise.
[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Add us.
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: What the camera is from underneath?
[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh usually yes.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The ship's from underneath.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Usually it's from underneath.
[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So is there any symbolism to that?
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I like stuff that goes fast.
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad we got him.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Me too this is great.
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh look at that.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: The kind of explanations I was waiting for.
[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Any other way other than digitally it's amazing.
[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You're telling me you're not wowed by that?
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at that, it's amazing.
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean honestly I have a little bit of a headache already.
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Well it's evil as everywhere.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a traumatic time.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Headache is a good response.
[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So I gotta get into it.
[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Your big argument for a lot of your creative decisions
[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_03]: is that anything we don't like was intentional.
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But these movies are not like-
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_03]: No that's a coincidence.
[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a coincidence.
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a coincidence that the parts that you think you don't like
[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: are just parts where I design you should have a bad feeling
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: because as the famous joke goes
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a bad feeling about this.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's built into the fabric of the movies.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: There's R2.
[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: There's our first line of dialogue.
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Walk on to them R2.
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Walk on to them R2.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: How's the volume here?
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Is the movie too loud or are we too quiet?
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's housekeeping because we got a long way to go.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to make sure everyone speaks up.
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at these things.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I love these.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a collaborative experience.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay now vulture droids.
[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: We have accused these characters
[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_03]: if we can even call them that
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: of being craven creations solely to sell toys.
[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell me what the story impetus was for the vulture droids?
[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Well first of all kids love toys.
[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's a bad motive.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm sorry I created a character that was so cool
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: that they made a toy out of it.
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the buzz droids that are really annoying.
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_02]: They're coming up.
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: This is where the fun begins.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That's intentional.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I put that line there because that is literally
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: where the real fun of the movie begins.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So we're not supposed to be having fun up until this point?
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: That's your excellent goal.
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You have your characters constantly describing
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_02]: how much fun they're having
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: just in case we're not getting it.
[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that's...
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: My movies appeal to both smart people and stupid people.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So I sometimes put a little gift in
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: for someone who doesn't know this is supposed to be fun.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Now here's the thing I've harped on in past episodes.
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_03]: When they cut to this clone commander here
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: his helmet is entirely CGI.
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That is a real human being with a CGI helmet
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: that puts over his face which is why the light hits it
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: in weird ways.
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks better.
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that your honest argument
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: that that looks better than buying a physical helmet
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and putting it on a guy's head?
[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Well you noticed it.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we'd be talking about it
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_05]: if it looked like some shitty practical helmet.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the goal.
[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I shouldn't be taken out of the scene to...
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I...
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I've made creative decisions.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I told you I came on too hard on the podcast.
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna try to...
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got to temper my emotions here.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Temper my emotions here.
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: He's our friend.
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: He's here with us tonight.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He's our friend.
[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_05]: See how many nos I put there?
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Five nos?
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a little...
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a call for it.
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_05]: That word is gonna be important later in the film.
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I planned it a lot of times where people said the word no
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: so that later on...
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spoil it in case this is the first viewing
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: for anyone,
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: but the word no is key to this movie.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You've said no is your least favorite word.
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I put this...
[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: the word no in this movie so many times.
[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Chris and...
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Because this is the low point.
[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the tragedy, bad things.
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I got corn dogs.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I gonna not eat dinner?
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you say?
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so our only...
[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We've received...
[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I was actually...
[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I will say I was disappointed that the phrase
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_05]: flying is for droids didn't catch on.
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I kind of put that in there thinking
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_05]: people would start saying that.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe put it on t-shirts maybe?
[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, these are the buzz droids.
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_02]: These are the toy droids.
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at those things.
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, adorable but also sinister.
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And he's gonna say hit the center eye.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look what they did.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's brutal.
[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That is.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That shows I have balls.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got all I was willing to do.
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: George, can I ask you what is an instance
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_03]: in where you thought, imagined that a person
[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: would use that phrase in everyday conversation?
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if someone didn't want to fly on an airplane.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Like people who are afraid of flying could say
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll drive, I don't want to take an airplane
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_05]: flying as for droids.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So you...
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: They liked it.
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Your plan was for that phrase to be used
[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: anytime someone didn't like being...
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like right now there's a travel advisory
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_05]: until February 24th because of terrorism.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you don't want to fly but you want
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_05]: to fun catchphrase and you don't want to be brought down
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_05]: by the real world topic of fear of a massive attack,
[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_05]: say flying as for droids kind of lightens a serious moment.
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Hold on Anakin you're gonna get us both killed.
[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You can only use it if you think.
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_05]: No no I was just quoting what was just said in the movie.
[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Great.
[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_02]: You should be watching the movie Griffin
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_02]: rather than eating on Mike.
[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen this like nine times.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not enough.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna say it.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That line?
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that the big line you was gonna say?
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the most dramatically inert fight.
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Now there's a massive difference in the amount of danger
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Obi-Wan seems to be in in terms of his performance.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He's ready for death.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's scared.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: He says like I go on without me it's over.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna get killed by some buzz droids.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin seems to be treating this with a seriousness
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: of buying soup at a grocery store.
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Was that a conscious? Did you direct?
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you flatter?
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I said flatter.
[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I said hidden less.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_05]: The camera sees everything.
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I gotta give you...
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There it is.
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hilarious joke.
[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Most successful joke in the history of humor.
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: The most successful joke in the history of humor.
[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Made more money than any other single
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_05]: single joke that's owned by a one...
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you rank how much money a joke is?
[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Well how many of the best biggest
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_05]: selling movies of all time is it in?
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Exclusively.
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You consider yourself a humorist George?
[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_05]: No, yes I do but not exclusively.
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_05]: A satirist?
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's a thrilling sequence.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a storyteller first and foremost.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Once again they look completely unafraid.
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: None of this was real.
[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I made all of this up.
[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean yeah that's how movies work.
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah?
[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how movies work.
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: No but I mean this doesn't exist somewhere.
[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to tear this down at the end.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Just turn off the computer.
[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So was that the argument that it was more eco-friendly
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_03]: to not build sets?
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's completely green.
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Every other movie they got to burn all the wood
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_05]: when they're done.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that what they do?
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: They burn the sets?
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah if they don't need them anymore
[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean you should have seen the dumpsters
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_05]: at the end of this movie were just empty.
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_05]: They came by and said no trash
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and I'm like no it's all digital.
[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's one of your most famous games.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Shadow Grievous.
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to us about this.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you talk to us a little bit?
[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a limb Grievous?
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's wearing a coat because he's cold
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: because robots get cold.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You notice that the whole crowd went silent.
[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_05]: That scares the shit out of people.
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's imposing.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Especially Smoker's Cop.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh these guys their bubbles are so
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: great stuff.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: How many times have you seen this movie George?
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean I couldn't count.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I've seen it I've probably seen it once a week.
[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And do you love it just as much every time?
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah probably more.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is the most you've ever liked this movie by that.
[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah probably it's my favorite screening so much
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: but you guys are talking a lot but that's okay.
[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a crowd, a laughing crowd.
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right they love it.
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Laughter is one of the most positive human responses
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: you can have.
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is where Elevator Antics is.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you guys have heard the Elevator Antics episode.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so R2 has a lot of comedy in this movie.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I love how R2 has to hold a cell phone
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_02]: in his little...
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a robot he doesn't have it built in.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't build it based on that.
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_05]: R2's got a lot of personality.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: He could do it that way but he prefers it that way.
[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_05]: It's tactile.
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He prefers to be able to dial the numbers with his little...
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_03]: With his little sort of plastic...
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_05]: R2D2 has always been a character who just dances
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: to the beat of his own drummer you know.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so this is a great example of that.
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: R2's trying to help them get the elevator up to town.
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He holds it up to his mouth as if they'll understand
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_02]: what he's saying when he talks into it.
[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: He just holds it up to his ear.
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Which we know that they can't understand what R2D2 is saying
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: because C3 feels a character that only exists
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: so that he can translate R2D2.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: They don't know how to interpret his views.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_02]: If he put it away, they wouldn't notice him.
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of logical flaws George.
[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: No those aren't logical flaws.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: People are imperfect.
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: They make mistakes.
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean in the world of the movie not me.
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But he's a robot.
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's a robot but he's got personality.
[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we love him.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we love R2.
[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: See droids have personality.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They're not just machines.
[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_11]: So there's like two more hours of this?
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe two ten.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_10]: That was a digital effect.
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_10]: That's for coming by everyone.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: No that was a digital effect.
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That last thing you pointed out.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a digital effect.
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Is this digital right here?
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah it's all digital but that last one.
[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But he's oil that wasn't real oil.
[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't shoot real oil.
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_10]: No I'm not Exxon.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not going to spill a bunch of oil everywhere.
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_10]: I'll tell you it's all green.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_10]: If you like the planet you'll love these movies.
[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_10]: Not real fire either that's an effect.
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_10]: That's an effect.
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just seamless George.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_03]: George this is something we've debated in the past.
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: R2 does not fly at all in the Phantom As.
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: In Attack of the Clones he flies only when it's convenient for them.
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But not when everyone else is slowing down their pace so that they can
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: keep up with him.
[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And in this one he flies to burn some droids to death.
[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Is R2 capable of flying at any point in time?
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he can fly all the time.
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You ever seen a bird walking around?
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And you wonder why is that bird walking around?
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He could fly everywhere?
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It's because people do what they want.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Do birds walk 90% of the time?
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin you're missing Count Dooku.
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: He's showing up.
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the entirety of the video.
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_05]: No but it's a comparison.
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying he's a bird.
[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying everyone's different.
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Count Dooku is the second line in your opening scroll.
[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the only one he flubbers onto the ground.
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to make a joke and say that he really did that
[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: but of course he was very old man.
[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He was like 88.
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It was impressive.
[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you let Dooku get away at the end of Attack of the Clones.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's very important to get away at the end of Episode 2
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: so we can have this scene.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This pivotal scene.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You get a 90 seconds.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they're all pivotal.
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Every scene is pivotal.
[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Every scene is pivotal.
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think there's no fat on this movie?
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you watch this and you don't think there's anything you should have caught
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: in High Insight ten years out?
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: No I should have added stuff if anything.
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_11]: Like elevator antics?
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Well you probably will eventually.
[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: No I can't.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Disney owns them.
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I just gotta live with the money.
[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_11]: I forgot about that deal.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_11]: How much money was that again?
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: A billion dollars.
[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_10]: That's a bad guy.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Christopher Lee is really good.
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he's in the pocket for him.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Even just moving around.
[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah we're so in the pocket for him.
[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just so classy.
[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You kinda want him to win.
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is also when the movie's cooking.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the only character who seems alive on screen in my opinion.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin don't you wanna ask me?
[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you wanna ask me why Ben Kenobi doesn't fly everywhere
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: since he just flew across the room?
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Why doesn't Ben Kenobi fly everywhere
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: cause he could fly across the room?
[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_05]: No I was making fun of you.
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay and I'm genuinely asking if you could fly all the time
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: what wouldn't he do?
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He flew across cause Dooku threw him across the room just now.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why.
[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So he wasn't flying.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: See he's killing this scene.
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah no this is a really good close up.
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Take note in the subtitles for this every now and then
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I will merge two words together in the subtitles
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like but you are two words
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: but in the subtitle there it was but you one word.
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So you consciously that was you had
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: a hand over the subtitles for the entire film?
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Now George this movie is incredibly violent.
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: You always say this movie's for children
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: but man it's got his hands cut.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Good Anakin good and the reason I
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_05]: put that line in there
[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_02]: it's Palpatine's best line is coming up.
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the one.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Do it.
[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Do it.
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Gross.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Decapitation.
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Head rolling.
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I regret cutting a line from that scene.
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What was the line that you had in original?
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Well someone talked me into cutting the line
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Dooku's final line was
[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_05]: but Misa Count Dooku.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And I
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: man what I wouldn't give to add that
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: because you see how it's a close one his face
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_01]: he looks right at the camera and goes
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but Misa Count Dooku.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Now George why would he say that
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: at that moment?
[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Just for fun.
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it'd be funny Joe.
[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Just lighten the mood it's a dark scene.
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Sand people.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes they call him Tuscan Raiders
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_05]: because sand people sounds offensive.
[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But I stuck to my guns on that
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I said no it's another universe
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_05]: you can use a phrase sand people
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_05]: it's not offensive even in this day and age.
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh so this is a bad guy.
[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a bad guy he can say whatever he wants.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I wish he'd said more things.
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: This is where he thinks they should just abandon Obi-Wan.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got his leg caught on something.
[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: More battles.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Star Wars.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Grievous is so cool.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You talk a lot about taking inspiration from old cinema
[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: like cinema, sci-fi, serials.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: What were your inspirations for Grievous?
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I went to a nursing home once
[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: this was a sick relative
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it scared the shit out of me
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought nothing's
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: nothing's scarier than a dying old man.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You realize your own mortality
[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: so that what if I make the bad guy
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_01]: really look like
[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: sickly.
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted people to feel like
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: at any moment our heroes could catch whatever Grievous has.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So in your mind.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So what does it like bronchitis?
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Is it worse?
[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_05]: No no this is setting out her space.
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_05]: There wouldn't be a name for it that you would understand.
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Also he's a robot.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That doesn't matter that's offensive.
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That's all droids.
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: The ship's going this way
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: so they can walk up it I guess.
[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't he fly at that moment?
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's probably fly.
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He's hurt. You ever see a bird get hurt?
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_05]: They don't fly they lie on the ground.
[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So you droids are like birds.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_05]: He was screaming now he's sliding he knows that's fast.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you originally were in talks with
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Academy Award nominee Gary Oldman
[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_03]: who got finance living actors to play
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_03]: the voice of Grievous and instead chose
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_03]: to hire Matthew Wood your sound supervisor
[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_03]: on the film.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it was a close call.
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Did they both audition?
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I kept saying Oldman just do a little less.
[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And Oldman I felt like
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean no disrespect he's great.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_05]: He was in my friend my buddy Francis
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: movie Dracula and I thought he was great in that.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oops.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So you thought Oldman
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_03]: was doing too much?
[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I said we gotta go with Wood on this one.
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I gotta say Wood playing Grievous
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: is giving maybe the most performance I've ever heard.
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't think that was over?
[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's very Dracula-like.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Very Dracula-like.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Well I didn't want people to think it was Dracula.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That was actually one thing I thought.
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_05]: They're gonna think it's Dracula.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: This is a great moment
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: just a quiet moment we've had a lot of
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: loud, this is the first really quiet moment
[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: in the movie.
[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Slaying Ben.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a problem.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Stupid idiot.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I was worried people would think
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that he was saying Roy Shields
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the man who did the music for the Little Rascals movies.
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That was an actual concern of yours.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You thought that everyone watching this film
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_03]: a film predominantly made for children
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: would take it out of the film.
[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I was worried.
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I was worried that they would think we were gonna cut
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: to a decomposing
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_05]: future, cause it would be the future.
[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a long time ago, George.
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah no but if they activated Roy Shields
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: that would have been a 20th century film
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_05]: composer.
[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Now the story of Droids have been in all three films
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_03]: but are used sparingly
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: whereas the main battle droids
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: who are made out of rice paper and walk like babies
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: with dirty diapers are used
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: top to bottom. Is there a reason
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: the Galactic Republic isn't using?
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I love all the use of green. I love the use of
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: General Grievous, his favorite color is green.
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like puke green everywhere.
[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there a reason though within the reality
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: the film that destroyed Droids are used so sparingly
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_03]: when they seem to be a lot more advanced?
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_05]: They use a lot more energy.
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like a carbon concern?
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it has to do with like we want to use it sparingly
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_05]: because we don't want to drain all the batteries.
[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I've already mentioned batteries once
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: in this film.
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying within the reality of the movie
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_03]: the destroyed droids have to be charged?
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's like when you're running a program on your computer
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_05]: or your phone and you know it drains the battery
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_05]: so you're like I only use it when I need to.
[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't think that power...
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: No so the destroyed droids are the tender
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_03]: of the Star Wars universe.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what that is, I'm a married man.
[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I love that line.
[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a great line.
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And this time you won't escape.
[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: They're so close to defeating him right here
[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we could have saved like 40 minutes of five.
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Grievous had them because he had put
[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the lightsabers in his pocket
[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_02]: in a jacket that he's wearing.
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He's got cape pockets, you know those famous
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: cape pockets that everyone has?
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So secure.
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: How much of this is real George?
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all digital.
[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I think... I don't know if I'm misremembering
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_05]: this but I think there was a shot earlier
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_05]: of Palpatine saying
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_05]: come now and he's kind of bending over and wincing.
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I think someone made like a sex gif
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_05]: of that online.
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You think someone made
[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: a sex joke with that?
[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah people do sexy Star Wars gifs
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_05]: so if you look to that
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_05]: point in the movie that's where someone
[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I think did make a gif or if they
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_05]: haven't they probably will.
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I mean you know George on that subject
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_03]: we have a checkered history
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_03]: in the past of this podcast.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you see the way he jumped? Did you see the Grievous jump there?
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_01]: No, how did he jump?
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And then Anakin jumps the same way
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_05]: that's a kind of a predictive move
[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_05]: you see like he's already jumping like the bad guy.
[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're foreshadowing that he's going to become a bad guy
[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: because all bad guys jump the same
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: do you think Osama and Lot and Hitler
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_03]: jump the same way? Probably I don't know
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd ever met them.
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I know in the Star Wars universe bad guys jump the same way.
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: George you mentioned sex gifs
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_03]: and sex memes.
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We have a checkered cast
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_03]: on this podcast.
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I love the way that
[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin's setting up a bit.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You love this movie so much.
[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It's great every
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_05]: so far every second is better
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_05]: than the last one.
[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think it's your...
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_05]: You see the way he wiggles his
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_05]: the hand work on him those aren't real
[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_05]: that's all I made this.
[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So how
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: how hands on are you
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: in giving notes to the animators?
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Like are you the hand model for that scene?
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll say have him wiggle his hands.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you acting out though and telling them to copy?
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Do it like this. Do it with your hands like that.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_10]: He's a bad guy.
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: How you doing Ben?
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_10]: Ben what's your favorite part so far Ben?
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_11]: The oil stuff.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Great we talked about that earlier.
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you think it was real oil?
[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_11]: No of course not. None of this is real.
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah but it's amazing
[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_05]: because it looks real.
[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen things in your real life
[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: that look like this George?
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_05]: No because I don't live in a space adventure.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you wish you lived in a space adventure?
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad I haven't seen anything like this
[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to be in a volcano.
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I've seen stuff like this on the news
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_05]: it's horrible.
[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Griffin you were trying to set up a bit.
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to set up a bit.
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_05]: What are you setting up? Sex memes?
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Star Wars? Sex memes?
[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I have in the past
[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_03]: we've done 10 episodes for each of these
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: prequel films
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_03]: these Phantom Mass trilogy films
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: when we're sort of running dry of things to talk about
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I often
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: sync to talking about fan fiction.
[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And the fan fiction often
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: happens to be erotic in nature.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you're familiar with this but a lot of people write...
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I don't like it.
[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's people drawing inspiration from your work.
[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I know but I've never liked it
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_05]: my employees traditionally
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_05]: have known not to bring up stuff like that to me
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's funny or fun.
[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_02]: And they can't say your least favorite word to you.
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: No. That's it right?
[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. You don't like the word no.
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it. That's why I use it in this
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_05]: because this is the darkest movie
[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: probably anyone's ever gonna make.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: This is... you think this is the darkest?
[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. He just said it Griffin.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Name a darker one.
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Schindler's List.
[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay but that he's my friends.
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Of course Steve's gonna make one that matches it.
[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh you're right. It wasn't dark because it was your friend who made it.
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_05]: No but it's not fair to bring up my friend's movie
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_05]: we both make good movies
[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_05]: of course Steve made that.
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_05]: This is my Schindler's List.
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_05]: You're a remarkable man George.
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people die in this movie.
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And they shouldn't have.
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Tell me that's not...
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin, this is Khorasan.
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't belittle the deaths in this movie just cause they're fake.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_11]: This is Khorasan the whole planet's a city.
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_11]: We still haven't gotten to the bottom of this.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_11]: How does this planet work?
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a city planet. Yeah but like what's the infrastructure?
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Like I don't get it.
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Whole planet's made of city.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But does that whole planet... It's like the Tin Man in The Wizard of Oz.
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_05]: He started off as a woodsman
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and then he was cursed by the wicked witch
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe of the east
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: because he was in love with
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is going off topic a little bit.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. But in the original
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Baum books for Wizard of Oz
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: the Tin woodsman was just a regular woodsman
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: he fell in love with a munchkin girl
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: who worked for the wicked witch of the east
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: she put a curse on him
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and made him chop his arm off. He went to a Tin Smith
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and placed the arm with the Tin Arm
[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was sort of piece by piece?
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Piece by piece until he was eventually all Tin
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that's why he needed a heart cause he was all Tin
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the way Khorasan
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: was as a planet. Started off as a planet.
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It was once a wood planet? No, it was once just a regular planet.
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Please don't... this is a serious topic
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I respect your question. Give you an answer
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't goofing around
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_05]: We're watching episode three here
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But eventually it became
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_01]: all city and none of the original
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: planet was left. It had all been
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: acidified
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Pillars
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, it's the Pillars
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: George in your mind this is your favorite part of the film
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: David, it's the Pillars
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm not mistaken I believe that woman over
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_03]: How many Pillars?
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm not mistaken George
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Is the woman over
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: the shoulder Palpatine not one of your daughters?
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of your daughters I believe
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I love her
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And that
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: was based on weird Al Yankovic in his
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: fat video
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That other alien
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What's his name again? Ornfreet Tom? Yeah, that's right
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a little tip of the hat
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, 3PO
[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So many Pillars
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_02]: There's Smiths
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Give it up for Smiths
[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well that's why I did, I rolled out the red carpet for him
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a little nod to how much
[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_05]: we like Jimmy Smiths
[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's like Rose
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: George you said you never found the
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: fan fiction funny but did you find it sexy
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got something on his phone people
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I have anything
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just say this
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm proud of this
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: In every Star Wars movie I've ever made
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: C-3PO has two golden arms
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the way it should be
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Now this is the first like romantically
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_03]: charged moment in the film
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They're neck kissing
[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I promised David that
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't read any fan fiction tonight
[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a promise I made for the sake of the podcast
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember you making that promise
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I made that promise to you off-mite
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Well this is a moment for it because this is so hot
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: This scene is really sexy stuff
[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's why it's good that I created an out
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I didn't promise that someone else would read fan fiction
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He talked about outer rim edges there
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Can we get Rachel Lange to this stage
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Past guests of the podcast Rachel Lange
[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: The only person who actually
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Are we pausing the movie please?
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding me this is two and a half hours of this
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We gotta pause the movie this is the sexiest part
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: No it gets sexier
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_10]: You talked about the outer rim edges David
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_10]: You're trembling
[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She's trembling
[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course she is
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Rachel
[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I just want you to know that producer Ben
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Just told me I'll feed it to you out there
[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: About this mic so
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_10]: It's getting in the mood
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Send it up
[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_10]: Welcome
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So season one
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I read some
[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Obi Wan Qui-Gon
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Fan fiction in which
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Obi Wan
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Performed Felatio and Qui-Gon
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You're so lucky I don't own Star Wars anymore
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I was sued you back to the
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Long time ago
[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't write it just read it
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Season two I read some Padme Anakin stuff
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yup
[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So I felt that well had sort of been
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Tapped dry so I tried to find something different
[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I found a short story
[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: That Rachel's gonna read called Love Knows No Circuits
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And I will be dramatically playing
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_03]: The role of C3PO
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a question are you gonna
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Be playing the role of R2 as well cause there are some
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I will yes all right great
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And one more question do you want to read the commentary
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_00]: At the beginning
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Love Knows No Circuits by Sapa-Doo
[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: How long are you gonna do this for Griffin
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Five hours this was a challenge
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Vic that I issued to Amy's
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: The Elvish Lady
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of dot dot dot
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Backfired on me though dot dot dot
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Nervous laugh
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He wrote that out
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yup challenge ready yaoi
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Feel free to nervously laugh people
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: With R2D2 and C3PO as a couple
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_03]: R2 I don't care what you say
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not cooking we don't need
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Food anyway and Master Luke says he's
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Perfectly fine making his own meals for himself
[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: C3PO squawked in an ignition
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 made a low whining sound, which made
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_00]: C3PO jump
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: What in Heaven's name do you mean
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: A romantic night for the two of us
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He snorted turning on his metallic heels
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And starting to weld all the way
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: When R2 rolled up alongside
[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: C3PO effectively blocking him
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_00]: From going any further
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: The Astro McJoy knew very well
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: The Astro McJoy knew very well
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That C3PO was just trying
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: to play hard to get and R2 wasn't going to stand for it. Even if he didn't really stand.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a joke, George.
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw it on the watch and I thought, I think that was a thing.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_05]: George, you pay attention to this.
[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you intend 3PO and R2 to be romantically involved? Is that a sort of sub-un-
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_02]: No, they're friends.
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: They're friends, they're just buddies.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_03]: For one thing, it's not normal for droids to have feelings at all. For their masters,
[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_03]: perhaps, certainly not for each other. For another, I'm programmed for protocol etiquette.
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It simply isn't proper for such behaviors. Why, in human beings, it's practically considered a mental disease.
[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO hums to R2's protests. The Golden Droid did almost trip when R2 brought up the subject of their master's mate.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That is an entirely different subject. Master Anakin has very good sense of these matters
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and it's not our place to question.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO replied curtly, ignoring the 10-year age difference between the two humans in question.
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: How long is this group?
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Five pages.
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 accused his counterpart with a series of clicks and beeps.
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_00]: If 3PO could have, he would have flushed.
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna do the beep on this one. Can you read the translation, Rachel?
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I like it better the other way but okay.
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I must admit, the lips that are good.
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 added.
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO rounded on R2 in a mock rage.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, stop it you clanging, spluttering bucket of boats!
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO demanded, slamming one of his metal arms down on R2's domed top, which R2 accused 3PO...
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Wife-beater!
[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And with that, the silver and blue astromic droid spun and rolled away,
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: knowing full well that 3PO would follow him.
[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_03]: No, R2, don't be like that. Come back. I didn't mean it.
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO protested, chasing after his counterpart, his arms flailing.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I love you.
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 spun around to face 3PO again.
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a pretty sexy moment, R2.
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: R2 asked, 3PO started to sputter again.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, quite technically that is anatomically impossible with us.
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO defended himself. R2 snorted.
[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Kiss? He insisted.
[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: 3PO sighed and bent over at his waist, scraping the part of his mechanical, humanoid face
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that would have been a mouth over the spot on R2's dome that gets mapped.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Such was their version of a kiss.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Around the corner of the doorway, Luke Skywalker, I mean Anakin Skywalker and his lover were spying on the two droids.
[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The younger of the two obviously finding the whole affair hilarious beyond all reason,
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and on the floor laughing.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who that is.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't either.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a typo.
[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_03]: If I hadn't seen it up with my own eyes, I never would have believed it.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin Skywalker muttered.
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin Skywalker muttered.
[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Two great eyes smiled up at him from the floor.
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: His lover said, still grinning.
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin grinned back.
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Indeed you did.
[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Kiss?
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Mission.
[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Mind-blowing success.
[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, this did get written in five minutes.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I was up until my alarm clock read midnight.
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I am insane.
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That is how they end the story that they wrote.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Rachel Lange.
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Rachel.
[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about that.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: We got the fan fiction over with. I didn't read anything graphic.
[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was actually very chase.
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they were just kissing.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I've learned lessons. I don't want to be a dirty boy my whole life.
[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Want to grow up.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a pretty dirty sequence.
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_05]: While you were talking about you missed one of the sexiest cannon shots in the whole Star Wars saga.
[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Anakin's bare chest.
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Anakin wakes up from a nightmare which was very well directed.
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Very thin-shitting.
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Very thin-shitting.
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, that's the kind of stuff I would have let him do in Return of the Jedi.
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't know about...
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: David Lynch?
[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_05]: David Lynch was going to direct that but he didn't want to.
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Did he explain why he didn't want to?
[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he didn't tell me. He's a good guy.
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So you directed the episode four?
[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And then five and six you did not direct?
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I basically directed Return of the Jedi because Richard Markwand got very sick.
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: He basically turned in an assembly at it and I finished it while he died.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You're a cold man, George.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_05]: What? I'm just supposed to leave it unfinished?
[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_05]: What happened?
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So chronologically you made those films first.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We've now come to understand.
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And then...
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And I released them a year before...
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Two years before...
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Episode one came out.
[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Phantom Man came out.
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And then Phantom Man directed, Attack the Clones you directed, Revenge of the Sith you directed.
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_03]: What's your favorite?
[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't choose. It's a four-way tie.
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Second place comes to Ghost of Return of the Jedi.
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_05]: This and third goes to Empire Strikes Back.
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys are...
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the ones you didn't direct. I get it.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_05]: No, but Return of the Jedi is really great.
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I can't wait to watch it.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I will believe it when I see it.
[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at yourself, you.
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Someone you.
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Yoda. That's how Yoda speaks.
[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: George, was there a reason you stepped away from directing episodes five and six
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that came back for the prequels?
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: What made you leave and what made you come back, I want to ask?
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, ultimately I was in charge of the final cuts of all of the movies.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But the problem was I was trying to get independence so I could make these movies the way I...
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_05]: The reason the prequels are flawless is because they're independent movies.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_05]: They're independently financed. I had Final Cut on them.
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I had a lot of people telling me no on episode four.
[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Your least favorite word?
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't like that word.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_05]: When it was time to make the second one that I made, episode five,
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I kind of had to... I took my eye off the ball a little bit
[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and they did some goofy things that I'm not proud of.
[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Billers?
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Goofier than Jar Jar? What kind of goofiness were you talking about?
[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_05]: They did improv stuff in it.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: They added jokes in that I didn't like.
[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to spoil it because you guys haven't seen it yet.
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's not talk about those movies.
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about this movie.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, basically, I'm not perfect.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: The best you can say about me is I made five and a half Perfect Star Wars movies
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think that's a pretty good track record.
[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This scene's great.
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Just electric.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So do you like your Jedi's to always just have arms crossed,
[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: looking at the floor, not even looking at each other really?
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Standard pose.
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love it.
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Shot, reverse shot.
[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say the visual language of these movies is very consistent.
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Lean back.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, as my rest in peace Michael Jackson,
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_05]: that I helped make Captain Eo, he used to say the word bad
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_05]: and he meant good or cool.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So when people in these movies say I have a bad feeling about this,
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_03]: they're really saying I have a cool feeling about this?
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, sometimes certainly that's the meta.
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_05]: That's sort of like the inside joke of that joke.
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like I have a bad feeling about this but also this being
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_05]: the most successful joke in the history of humor.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a cool feeling about how often and successful this joke will be.
[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's just the characters mean bad in the traditional sense.
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_05]: They mean bad in the traditional sense because you as the writer mean cool.
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a long time before Michael Jackson did that to that word.
[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_03]: What's a long time ago?
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_05]: A long time ago and it was also so far away.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Galaxy far, far away.
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to point out this movie just grinds to a halt.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just people in rooms talking to each other for an hour.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Look, he's appointing him to be his personal representative on the Jedi.
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_02]: I know, there's a lot of parliamentary business to attend to.
[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, how are we going to set...
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Right now, we're putting the pieces in place.
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: You've had three movies to put the pieces in place.
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know but this opened with a giant kick-ass battle
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and now we got to take a pause
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and now it's what's going to happen next?
[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_05]: What's going to happen next for an hour?
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the Jedi temple, right?
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Those pillars represent the five great Sawers-Murys.
[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_03]: George, this is a question I've always had.
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been trying to figure this out throughout all the films.
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: What relationship does the Jedi Council and the Jedis at large have to
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_03]: to the galaxy around them?
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Are they sort of like the Vatican?
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that they're their own independent state?
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_03]: They work in conjunction with other people but they don't answer to anybody?
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Or is there someone they report to?
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_05]: They have a higher midichlorian count than anybody else.
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I know what they are.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's my question.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Are the guys who are holograms, are they sitting in corresponding chairs elsewhere?
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_02]: They have to sit in a chair to talk to everyone else?
[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Are there that many empty chairs around them?
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Are they sitting in an identical room with like 12 holograms?
[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_05]: You ever use Skype?
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I basically invented it here.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying you predicted Skype with this scene.
[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to sit in a special chair for Skype.
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_03]: When I'm Skyping with my mom, I don't build a replica of her bedroom.
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Well that's your choice. It sounds like you have some sort of issues there.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_02]: The Wookiees come up for the first time in this series.
[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda just springs into action.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, Yoda's never looked better.
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think Yoda's a good looking guy?
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I just mean it digitally.
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_05]: We had to use a puppet in the first movies we made.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_11]: I'm excited to see that.
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, don't get your hopes up because this looks perfect so...
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_11]: I can make a better Jedi.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you've created two Jedis of your own.
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: No, three I think.
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_03]: One was a bad guy. He created one Sith, Darth Stupid Idiot.
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_11]: What's Darth Stupid Idiot?
[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a great name for a Jedi.
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Isn't that a good name?
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_11]: And he's a jerk and he's always wet.
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I invented a couple of Sith characters that have cool names.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Darth Ikky.
[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I like that.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You remember Darth Ikky?
[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_03]: No, when was Darth Ikky in these movies?
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it was for the video game.
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_05]: LucasArch was making a video game and I pitched a couple.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_05]: They said, hey, George is here.
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Why don't you name a couple?
[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_05]: This is 100% series.
[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Like everything you said.
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to remember what the other one was.
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Was Darth Ikky.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Does anyone remember who the other one was?
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Darth Insanius.
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Darth Insanius.
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Darth Ikky.
[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, John Henry.
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Was that John?
[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That's John Henry.
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Round of the plus or John Henry?
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I think they didn't end up using them because they were too cool or bad.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_05]: They thought it overwhelmed the game.
[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, can Ben pitch you he had two Jedi characters created as well.
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see from the master himself.
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel pretty good about him.
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So is Bat-Kipso, I think was his name?
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think his name was Bat-Peki.
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Bat-Peki, thank you.
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_11]: Bat-Peki, that's fun.
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_11]: That's fun.
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_11]: Okay, sure.
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_11]: But he's from a cave planet.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_05]: No such thing, but go ahead.
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_11]: Well, no, you get it.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but we can invent it.
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_05]: We can make it.
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_05]: This is expanded universe.
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I wish I would still, I would make these happen if I was still in charge of it, but talk to Disney.
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a Batman.
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a shameless Batman ripoff, right?
[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we call that an homage.
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That's an homage.
[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_03]: His parents were murdered and that caused him to turn to the light.
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: He is an orphan too, but I didn't realize the connection with that.
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_11]: I like the other one better.
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_11]: Alligashu.
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_11]: That's our good guy.
[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_11]: He's a big Jedi.
[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's great.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_11]: You know?
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_11]: Because they're always small.
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_11]: Ben thinks your Jedis are too small.
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get a big Jedi.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't set a bar for how small they can get.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Because Yoda is tiny, but none of them are above our human size.
[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's like a snooze fest.
[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, make it big.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_03]: How big are we talking?
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Really big.
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I probably would have had some bigger Jedi's if they'd let me make
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_05]: episode seven, but they really weren't interested.
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, episode seven you said is being directed by JJ Abrams.
[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Who also created Felicity.
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Felicity?
[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, which is on the shirt that you're wearing right now.
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Right, I'm wearing this just as a sign of support.
[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I wish him the best.
[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Every time you invoke episode seven, it seems I might be over-reading it.
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It seems like there's a bit of resentment in your tone that you weren't allowed
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_03]: to make the film.
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I told them what to do and they ignored it.
[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, you know, I don't blame me when you see the new movie because I had
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_01]: planned, I pitched them an idea which was have less of Han Solo, you know,
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_03]: just cameos.
[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_03]: We have magic characters, yeah.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Cameos and mostly just be about new characters that I created.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Thought it'd be really cool, but then Disney went their own way.
[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, they may pay a heavy price in about a little less than a month.
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So are you a fan of JJ Abrams or not?
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, I think JJ's a good kid.
[00:44:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Because right now you're essentially wearing the T-shirt of like, it's like if you
[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: wore the T-shirt of the person who's fucking your ex-girlfriend.
[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Is what you're wearing right now?
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean I wouldn't wear the shirt of the man who designed the stained glass
[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_05]: window at the entranceway to Skywalker Ranch.
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_05]: What is this?
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the person that Marsha Lucas, my first wife, took up with after we split.
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And I never took that stained glass down.
[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So in a way it doesn't make sense that I would wear the shirt.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Read a book about me.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, you had it?
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Your wife left you for the man installed?
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It didn't last.
[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Well yeah, she left you.
[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_05]: No, she even the stained glass guy.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Her relationship with that handyman, what a craftsman, whatever you want to call him.
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you seen it?
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: No I haven't.
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it looks fine, it's fine.
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you still have it standing in your office?
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's at the entrance, it's the foyer.
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So every day when you walk into work, you walk through the foyer that was made by the man.
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Who took your love away from you.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Poured a lot of that pain into this movie.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you not trust love George?
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Love's dangerous, look at this.
[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They're happy right now but.
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: They don't look happy.
[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You know she's rubbing his chest, how's that not happy?
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_05]: They are content.
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_05]: No are.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Every lack of a space in the subtitles I wrote.
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, of course it's just beautiful, look at that.
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you imagine what it looks like on life day?
[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Leading up to life day when they get to put all the decorations up.
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like Christmas and Hanukkah.
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Put together.
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Now I believe this is your cameo coming up, right there in the corner, in the lower left-hand corner.
[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_03]: George Porgy Lucas as Baron Papanoida with his daughter.
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Jun great.
[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell us a little about your preparation work to get into the character of Baron Papanoida?
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I watched what I did in Beverly Hills Cop 3 and I'm like, I just got to match that.
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Now not to crib from James Lipton.
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_03]: On inside the actor's studio.
[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Would it be possible to talk to Baron Papanoida here today?
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you need time to get into the character?
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi Baron Papanoida.
[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi.
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_03]: How are you doing?
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Doing good.
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell me a little about yourself, what you do for a living?
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Right now I'm just waiting outside.
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm hearing it going to the Jedi Council.
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's an opera, it's the opera.
[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_05]: The opera here.
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you a patron of the arts Baron?
[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that a hereditary title or were you elected?
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_10]: Both.
[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: This opera is pretty cool.
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey this is your favorite scene.
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: This is my favorite scene.
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my second favorite moment.
[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Does all performance in...
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: These are based on the things you used to buy at the Sharper Image.
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Is this what all performance looks like in the Star Wars universe?
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's big bubbles.
[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Do actors ever appear on stage or is it all bubbles designed by other people?
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean this is a very specific kind of...
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Why do their armrests have glowing red lights?
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: That feels weird for an opera that might be distracting.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_02]: So they can warm their hands before and after they applaud?
[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they can warm their hands for applause, they're also for safety.
[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess George, my question is if I were to go to a stand-up club in Coruscant
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_03]: would we see like four big bubbles making observations on race and gender dynamics?
[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And airplane food.
[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah you might, it depends.
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Space plane food.
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Space plane food.
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Space racial dynamic.
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It depends, yeah.
[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You go into comedy places and there'd be bubbles on stage performing
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and then there's probably like contraburist because there are probably like creatures in our bubbles.
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_05]: So you just hope that one day...
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Only bubbles in this club.
[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Like movies will just be bubbles one day?
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that your hope?
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: No, this took place in the past.
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Now this is going to happen in the future.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You harp a lot about these things being cyclical, the ring theory that all these things...
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh that's not my theory, that's just a cool thing that you can look up online.
[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean if I did it great but you know I just try to make great movies.
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have a...
[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not...
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is arguably the scene of the movie.
[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is the turn.
[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Arguably, sure.
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is the turn.
[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_03]: The implication here that you kind of allude to but you don't directly acknowledge
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03]: is that Palpatine is Anakin's father.
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Because Anakin was an Immaculate Conception.
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Certainly, yeah, father figure, yeah.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: No, but he also says here that along with Darth Kledis
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: who was his mentor they learned how to create life purely out of the force.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Phantom Menace, Schmi says there was no father,
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: it was an Immaculate Conception as mid-chlorian rating was off the charts.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Does that not seem like you're laying out the breadcrumbs to have us believe
[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_03]: that Palpatine made Anakin out of space magic?
[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Subtitles.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to...
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I think something right now.
[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to...
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to...
[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's great.
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to answer that question because part of the mystery of the movie is
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_05]: you know it's sort of one of those things where you leave a little bit
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_05]: to the audience's imagination because it's more intriguing.
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_05]: There's basically, he either made him out of space magic.
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Or what if maybe like he snuck into her house when she was asleep?
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, come on now.
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Come on, George, come on.
[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Come on, this is a family problem.
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_05]: He's bad.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a bad man.
[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying it's possible.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He's saying it right now, create life.
[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and you think he's not capable of taking a woman who's asleep
[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_05]: without her consent?
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are you so terrible?
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the most evil character in the universe.
[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_11]: George, no, stop please.
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry but that's one possibility.
[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to leave all the possibilities on the table
[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_05]: but obviously I don't want to be over and say this because these are children's films.
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_03]: But in both of the awful scenarios that you just presented to us,
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Palpatine is the fuff.
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or maybe he's not.
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's just space magic and it happened.
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Is space magic like strange magic?
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_05]: They're different.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Space magic is for boys, strange magic is for girls.
[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, good.
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Very binary.
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think of McDermott in this scene?
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a great piece of acting.
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I really do.
[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a great piece of acting.
[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's great.
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously there's Gulf War parallels
[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's George Bush, George W. Bush parallels in this movie.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to draw too much attention to those.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: There is also I think a little bit of a tip of the hat
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_05]: if you've seen the movie Midnight Cowboy.
[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_05]: The plot of this movie is essentially
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_05]: a version of when John Voight's character
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_05]: who if you've seen Midnight Cowboy
[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_05]: there's a scene where he needs money
[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and he goes into a movie theater
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and has a sexual encounter for money
[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_05]: with a young Bob Ballobam.
[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when he's done, and John Voight is not gay,
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_05]: this is an instance where for money he does this
[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and then afterwards he says
[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_05]: can I have my money
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_05]: and the teenage Bob Ballobam breaks down crying
[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and says I don't have any money.
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So John Voight did this sexual act
[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: in a movie theater for nothing.
[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of like what Palpatine does to Anakin this
[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_05]: which he says you got to give into your anger
[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and your dark side or else your wife's going to die
[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_05]: so he gives into his anger and dark side
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: and wife dies anyway.
[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: He feels the same.
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry for spoiling the movie but...
[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying the entire plot of this film
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: is no mod to that one two minute scene
[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: in Midnight Cowboy?
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Well that's one way to look at it.
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Again I don't want to spoil the movie
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_05]: but that's one interpretation of the film.
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_11]: He's sitting in a chair, Ben. Is that what you were noticing?
[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Well I mean yeah they all poop in those chairs.
[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah they're two chairs.
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_11]: No the Chewbacca character.
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh he's here.
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_11]: Chewbacca. Who is this guy?
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_11]: He is a big guy.
[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_11]: He meets that criteria.
[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_11]: I like that about him.
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Harry too why not?
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Big and Harry he's a looker.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_11]: But there's so much time dealt with talking about Chewbacca.
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't even do any.
[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_11]: Now you told us that Chewbacca comes back
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_11]: and horrified it.
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right he's a big character. His Han Solo is very friend.
[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know who Han Solo is.
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_02]: This guy's way bigger though.
[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a cooler guy than Chewbacca.
[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So right now if I were on set...
[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Power Generators.
[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the issue I was talking about earlier.
[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Their main power generators.
[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Things work on energy
[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's why the Discharge Roids
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_05]: they don't use them as much because they use them.
[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And it works on two levels because Palpatine's also a power.
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_05]: This sequence is bizarre.
[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone's compelled by this.
[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And you see some of the...
[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You see those houses are identical to
[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: in the Star Wars Holiday Special
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_05]: when you visit Chewbacca on the Wookiee Home Planet.
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at those in the back.
[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_05]: That's just like his Chewbacca's house.
[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a Tarzan y'all there.
[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_03]: What was your choice to use a Tarzan Roar
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_03]: in that moment?
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_05]: These are fun.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I did some adventure films.
[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_05]: We like to do little...
[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I did a reference to Wayne's World in Episode 1.
[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I did a reference to Tarzan in this.
[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: What was your Wayne's World reference in Episode 1?
[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I had Jar Jar say,
[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me?
[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh great.
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a segment I do on the show.
[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I try to do every episode the merchandise spotlight.
[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's something we've been building up to
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: since the very beginning.
[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_03]: There's one piece of merchandise I've been obsessed with
[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_03]: from the very beginning.
[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the Comtec chips.
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.
[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_03]: The Comtec chips go to cheer.
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The Phantom Menace that allowed toys to talk.
[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I have spent over $100
[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_03]: in the last seven months.
[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_03]: $100?
[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, probably yeah.
[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Collecting Comtec chips.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_03]: This bag is just duplicates.
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I had to complete a set but I finally have
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_03]: a complete set now and I also bought a Comtec reader.
[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Now this was thank you.
[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, look at it. So small.
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_03]: May the force be with you.
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: May the force be with you.
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Great line.
[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Just the mirroring.
[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Ring theory.
[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Now this was supposed to change the game much in the way
[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_03]: that you reinvented the technology to make films.
[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I reinvented film soundtracks.
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I reinvented special effects.
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I reinvented a lot of stuff.
[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_03]: The idea was that the toys were too small
[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_03]: so that you couldn't put voice chips inside them.
[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So they literally had physical chips that came next to them.
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And you have to use this
[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: to make sounds.
[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a little game I want to play.
[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_03]: To show off what the sound quality was.
[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_03]: This was the big selling point.
[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Now toys talk. That was a big selling point.
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to show off the level of audio recording quality
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_03]: on these.
[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to identify what character it is.
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright.
[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_03]: This is not going to work at all.
[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No one's going to hear that.
[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you've heard that in the microphone that's going into the recording
[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: but not amplified.
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that?
[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't hear it.
[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright.
[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Worth it.
[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_05]: That was like $100.
[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, correct.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to miss the second dream sequence in a row.
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Real quick bring the sound back.
[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh we missed it.
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you Griffin.
[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Now he's looking at his iPad or Game Boy.
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_05]: No wonder you hate these movies.
[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. Do it again.
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That was fun.
[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh that's Darth Maul.
[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He's just got the lines though.
[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_05]: These all sound the same.
[00:56:29] Okay, ready?
[00:56:32] Wait.
[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a Gungan, right?
[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Each chip has three lines, right?
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a pod racer.
[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Odie Mandrel.
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Odie Mandrel.
[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. I knew it was somewhere in that part of the movie.
[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: He has zero lines in the film I believe.
[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh those are exclusive to Toy Story.
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't write those then.
[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't write them? These are expanded universe?
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and no longer canon thanks to Disney.
[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Like bacon.
[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They all just sound like Stephen Hawking.
[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_05]: That sounds like that was from the movie that came out last year.
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_05]: A theory of everything?
[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_05]: That's from the theory of everything.
[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you've been ripped off.
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I think someone, did you buy those in eBay?
[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Someone mistakenly sold you some of the merchandise toys from theory of everything.
[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_05]: That's Padme, that's Padme.
[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't even plug it in. You just sort of brush it against the contact reader.
[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how it works.
[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But you hold the toy up so it looks like the toy is talking.
[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to hold the toy up at the same time.
[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You need three hands to operate this thing.
[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This is a three hand operation.
[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You need a body.
[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You need a chip, you need the reader and you need the toy.
[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Use your foot.
[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a plastic line.
[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_05]: There it is.
[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Nope, that was Darth Maul.
[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Darth Maul also only has one line in the film, right?
[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he's quoting Palpatine.
[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I now own five different Darth Maul contact chips.
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the part where he is.
[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is my favorite.
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the part where Obi-Wan says,
[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: is there anything going on here? He says, no not at all.
[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_02]: One second later he says everything's going on here.
[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't think this looks great George having an actual human being
[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: wearing clothes with stuff on his face, fake teeth?
[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of digital stuff going on that's making that work though.
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Like these little guys in the background here.
[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't you and McGregor look more engaged
[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_03]: that he actually has someone to play off of?
[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so.
[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Really? No, I like the digital feeling, like that.
[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the practical stuff only works
[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_05]: if it's polished up with a little bit of digital magic.
[00:59:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Now we're cooking.
[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go.
[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_02]: A little decoy action from Obi-Wan there.
[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I like this jungle music.
[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's booga!
[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh fun stuff.
[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: This is fun George.
[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my favorite part, look at her.
[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_03]: She's so much fun.
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a feathered iguana.
[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And she loves life. Look how happy she is.
[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She has a great life.
[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_03]: She's made a new friend.
[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Guys I'm sorry, I can't.
[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, past guest Morgan Evans.
[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, how's it going guys?
[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on Morgan?
[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Well first of all, huge honor to meet you.
[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Big fan of Star Tours.
[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Morgan I'm gonna congratulate you.
[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I believe you recently won a digital award.
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, some sort of digital award.
[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You won a digital advertising or digital?
[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Digital, yeah.
[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Well work comes fast for both wins.
[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Big fan of Captain EO, big fan of all that you've done for Tomorrowland.
[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're taking credit George
[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: for the fact that Morgan won an award for making web series?
[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Well no, he won a digital award
[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_05]: and I'm a pioneer of digital technology.
[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true, this is all true.
[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_05]: So you just think you and digital, that's just synonymous.
[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Digital is me, yeah.
[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_09]: I have no beef with George Lucas.
[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. I also hardly any beef with you David.
[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh good.
[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Most of my beef flies with this man.
[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_09]: What beef do you have with me?
[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't remember? I created this podcast.
[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You created the Griffin and David Present?
[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we were golfing.
[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_09]: You remember?
[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, of course.
[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And I said someone should do a podcast about movies.
[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And you said that's a great idea.
[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And I said you and I should do a podcast about movies.
[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_09]: And then you took a Molly.
[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And then three weeks later this shit came out.
[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Remember this?
[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't bring it up on the show because I needed it for my career to get these digital things.
[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm sitting at your podcast looking at you expecting the whole time I'm on your goddamn show
[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_09]: that you acknowledged the fact
[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_09]: that I created all this?
[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_09]: You didn't create all of this.
[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I did.
[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_09]: I said a show about movies.
[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin, these are movies.
[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but we were talking about doing Griffin and Morgan Presents.
[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm talking about people talking about movies.
[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Up until now people have just been watching movies.
[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I said people should talk about movies.
[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_09]: We never talked about these films though.
[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Any movie.
[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_09]: You're taking credit for the idea of anyone talking about a movie ever.
[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I am.
[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm talking about putting people
[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_09]: seeing movies
[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_09]: then sitting down
[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_09]: and discussing these films.
[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Not just that Morgan, you were saying a podcast in which
[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin and someone else talks about movies.
[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm talking about people
[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_09]: talking about movies.
[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: You see George, you're getting too much credit.
[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He's claiming that he came up with the idea of people discussing films.
[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what exactly, yes.
[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Well wait, if George created
[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Morgan and Morgan created this podcast
[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: then George created this podcast.
[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_09]: God damn it.
[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you don't understand.
[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_09]: What do you think of this scene?
[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's too bright.
[01:02:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to be too bright.
[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_09]: That's how he feels.
[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: As a filmmaker that's your complaint.
[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but see what I'm talking about?
[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_09]: This is what I'm talking about, right?
[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_09]: You like this what we're doing now.
[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I was saying this is what I was pitching when we were sitting in the golf cart
[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_09]: and you were going, oh my skin feels crazy.
[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_09]: It was on Molly, I didn't know when it was sitting.
[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Morgan, we're making a lot of money off this show
[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_09]: and I can't give that up because I got a lot of kids.
[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_09]: That's okay, that's not about the money for me.
[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_09]: This is about defining something. I don't know what to call it.
[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I would call it spilm discussions.
[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Morgan, I mean
[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_03]: to give you some credit, you brought that idea up.
[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I said that would be fun.
[01:02:58] [SPEAKER_03]: What movies we talk about?
[01:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: What about Phantom Menace?
[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah and then you call Blogger.
[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_09]: You call a blogger.
[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah because do you remember what your response was?
[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Fuck you, I don't like Jews.
[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you said A, fuck you, I don't like Jews
[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and B, you said never Captain Kirk is a fucking herb.
[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's Captain, you guys want to come on here
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_09]: and slobber all over Captain Kirk's dick, be my guest.
[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_05]: This is not a bad movie.
[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Morgan, if you don't like Jews, you'll love a character
[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_05]: in Episode 1 The Phantom Menace named Wato
[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_05]: because he's not Jewish, he's a Guido.
[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_09]: No, he was my favorite character.
[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_09]: We talked all about it on our podcast.
[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_05]: That proves it because he doesn't like Jews
[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_05]: and he loves Wato.
[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not that I don't like Jews,
[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_09]: it's that I don't like Griffin's form of Judaism.
[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: My form of Judaism?
[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Now Griffin, what form of Judaism do you practice?
[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Tell them.
[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Agnostic? I don't know, that's the worst line.
[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_09]: That's exactly what I mean, I'm a big fan of Jews.
[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for not being a better Jew.
[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Criticism, that's what I wanted to call it.
[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: The movie, you're claiming that you created film criticism.
[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, like in paper form, in film form, audio.
[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_09]: David, how long have you been a film critic?
[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know, I don't know, a few years, seven years.
[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Seven years and then seven years in one day
[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_09]: is when we went golfing and I came up with this wonderful idea.
[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: A few weeks ago.
[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yes, your case is holding together pretty well.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, hard to argue.
[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: But I still think you're giving yourself too much credit.
[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Look Morgan, look at it.
[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Griffin, this is your favorite scene.
[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But look, Booga and Obi-Wan are two people
[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: from totally different species with different viewpoints
[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_03]: on the world and they're working together
[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: against a common enemy.
[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I think this is wonderful.
[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't wait for the Spock Man to come.
[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's not in this movie, that's a different movie.
[01:04:32] [SPEAKER_09]: What movie's that?
[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Star Trek.
[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_09]: That's what we're watching.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_09]: No one's left.
[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Star Trek III, The Revenge of the Sith.
[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_09]: No.
[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And these, who are these?
[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_09]: These are ghosts?
[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_09]: These are droids.
[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_09]: This is why we're called ghosts.
[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_09]: These are ghouls?
[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_09]: You haven't even seen these movies before.
[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_09]: No, they're Skyping.
[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_09]: They're Skyping, okay.
[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But they're stand-up Skyping in the scene.
[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Did you see Paranole Activity IV, the ghost dimension?
[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_09]: No I didn't.
[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_09]: How was it?
[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a lot like that.
[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Really?
[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Right there, yeah.
[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_09]: What's this?
[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_09]: This is like a big air hockey table?
[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_03]: How do I make it up to you, Morgan?
[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_09]: I would love to have you in your podcast today.
[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Here's what I would love.
[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't have to make it up to me.
[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I would just like for everyone to boo Just Griffin.
[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Can everyone hear Just Boo Griffin?
[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_02]: People aren't going to do it.
[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Boo!
[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I was wrong!
[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_09]: They did it very quick.
[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I was wrong.
[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, thank you.
[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Thanks for having me.
[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Morgan, look.
[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You're a big LA celebrity.
[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want the dupes?
[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh can I have a...
[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to get...
[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Reach your hand in and it picks a contact chip.
[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Any contact chips.
[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to need a reader though.
[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They cost about 25 bucks.
[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're, yeah, 25 bucks.
[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Also they take 9 volt batteries.
[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_03]: 9 volt.
[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: What did you get, Morgan?
[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_09]: He looks like Paul Scheer.
[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's not Paul Scheer though.
[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: If you look on the back it has the name I think.
[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, it's Rob Hubel.
[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Morgan Evans, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, Morgan.
[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You mentioned batteries again after criticizing me for talking about batteries in the movie.
[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's really your overarching point in this.
[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's about power.
[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_05]: It's about literal power, how we abuse it.
[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: The films are about power, the abusive power and energy is part of power.
[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_05]: There's an energy in the universe.
[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Dark side, light side.
[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You got to spot a fine notification there, Ben.
[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now this is a pivotal scene.
[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Palpatine telling Anakin.
[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I read in Wikipedia that his lightsabers are hidden in those phases.
[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Really? They're that big?
[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_11]: George's got Star Wars shoes on.
[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_11]: That's real, they are actually.
[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are Vans.
[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Star Wars Vans.
[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty cool stuff.
[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to say they're horribly uncomfortable, I regret buying them.
[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Not good shoes?
[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: How much do you have final say?
[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I guess you've given up the company now, but did you used to have final say over all the merchandise?
[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would approve everything.
[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you sign off on every single contact show?
[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_10]: Yep.
[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_02]: What about that thing where the candy comes out of Jar Jar's mouth and it looks like his like distended tongue?
[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the lollipop is his tongue so you have to make out Jar Jar.
[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What about the lava berry Pop Tarts?
[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to save you some time, the answer to every question she asks.
[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we're not even tracking with this movie.
[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's going great.
[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: From this point on in the film, Hayden Christensen never has his head higher than a 30 degree angle with the ground.
[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Was that a move that he came up with or is that a note you gave him?
[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a note I gave him.
[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_02]: The performance is this movie.
[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They're almost dancing with each other here, they're sort of facing off circling.
[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there's definitely, yeah, the circling is very much, it's a dance of power.
[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: See, I totally forgot about this scene.
[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen this movie 10 times.
[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_03]: He comes close to actually doing the right thing here and Palpatine convinces him very quickly with very little that he should, you know,
[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: keep it cool.
[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think, this is a big question I've had throughout the whole series.
[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The prophecy was that Anakin was the chosen one.
[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And that he would restore balance.
[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And he did.
[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Is the balance of there's just two good Jedi's and two bad Jedi's?
[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the idea of balance at the end of this movie?
[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The balance is that there were too many good people in the world?
[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, two balances out, does that not add up?
[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Two equals two you're saying?
[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: No, two is the same as two, yeah.
[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You don't think that, does anyone want to check that the numbers work on that?
[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: No, the math yes.
[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Two and two are the same number.
[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm saying that is the prophecy in your mind was that he will kill all the Jedi so that there are only two left and there's an equal number of Jedi and Sith.
[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: But then also ultimately, and I don't want to spoil the balance.
[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's more movies.
[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: There's more movies.
[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I don't want to spoil too much but in episode four you might notice that like he's Darth Vader in that movie.
[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So Darth Vader is a big part of the next couple of films.
[01:08:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the next movie after this one, Darth Vader, he keeps saying like other people will say like let's not do this.
[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And Darth Vader keeps saying no, I have an idea, this is how we should do it.
[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And that Darth Vader is almost always wrong as it turns out but then he's the only one who's unscathed.
[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So was he the main character in the next film?
[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_05]: No, he's not the main character, he's like the main bad guy.
[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Who are the main characters in the next one?
[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo.
[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_05]: The babies?
[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about.
[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah those babies.
[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about this movie Griffin.
[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I just got that is Buga.
[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_02]: He's in his Doctor Doom car.
[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's gonna fall down.
[01:09:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this.
[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This part was fun to make.
[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is like the French connection basically.
[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Now Grievous has made a miraculous recovery since the last time we saw him.
[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was coughing and stooped over.
[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He's very agile now.
[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Adrenaline.
[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_05]: He's very excited by the fighting.
[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, don't underestimate him.
[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_05]: He's bad.
[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Now they're just slapping each other.
[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: He's presented as being a real threat.
[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_03]: This guy is impossible to beat.
[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he had to take a bike chase on a Buga chase
[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and lightsabers and this and that.
[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then he just opens up his chest.
[01:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: One fluid motion.
[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't he wear like a vest?
[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Why wouldn't he?
[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because he's so tough.
[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He's so badass that he's like I don't need it.
[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna front.
[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: He just keeps his organs exposed to everyone at all times.
[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because he's like I'm not afraid of anybody.
[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm the baddest guy here.
[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Hubris.
[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Classic in Greek tragedy.
[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Shakespeare.
[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Hubris.
[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Hubris is a big theme.
[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't he close the chest panels back up?
[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he should have probably done that.
[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: He should have just clicked.
[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_02]: That was an error.
[01:10:50] [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'll tell you.
[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Now his eyes are gonna catch on fire.
[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: General Grievous never thought this would happen.
[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: It's got fire eyes.
[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_05]: He never thought this would happen.
[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_05]: This is his worst nightmare.
[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what happens.
[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Right now if he could talk he would say
[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a bad feeling about this.
[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So his worst nightmare specifically was that someone would pry open his chest cavity.
[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Shoot him in the heart.
[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: See what happened there?
[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_05]: His eyes were catching on fire.
[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Leave it there open for a minute.
[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: He never, in a million years, he never thought anyone would do that.
[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Anakin had the whole conversation with Palpatine.
[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Then he just gets back over to the Jedi Temple and he's like
[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Mace, can I talk to you for a second?
[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at the energy in this scene.
[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Now looking at each other, stooped over, okay.
[01:11:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So he doesn't believe it.
[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Three movies in and he still doesn't believe it.
[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That creepy dude is maybe the bad guy.
[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Who has seized all power in the galaxy.
[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, weirdly.
[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, whoa.
[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Taking control of everything.
[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And there's definitely something wrong
[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: because the Jedi's powers don't work anymore.
[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which they're not telling anybody.
[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't, I mean again, this is hubris.
[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't want to believe it.
[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Because he's like this is our worst fears would be realized if this is true.
[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What was it like working with Sam Jackson, George?
[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I was fun.
[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You really let him cut loose in this movie.
[01:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: No, there were a lot of takes we couldn't use.
[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_05]: He's very energetic actor and I put a stop to that.
[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You told him no energy.
[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You just know it, zero energy.
[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I think the opposite of what Kubrick's approach,
[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you know where Kubrick, when he worked with Nicholson on The Shining,
[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_05]: he would use the craziest take.
[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I would do so many takes and eventually he'd get tired.
[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Most of the takes that I shot, it cuts right before he falls asleep.
[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true of a lot of the actors.
[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: You would just work all day until Sam was just asleep ahead.
[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The first takes would be so not what I wanted
[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and then we would just work them until they got to the point
[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and was like we need them
[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_05]: because they should all feel very tired of this, what's going on.
[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Well like Terrence Malick famously mostly shoots at magic hour.
[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He waits until sundown and then he falls into magic hour.
[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I made magic hour happen.
[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have to wait for magic hour, I create magic hour.
[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It looks just beautiful.
[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_05]: If I wanted every scene to be magic hour.
[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So he goes to the temple while Mace goes to see Palpatine.
[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_02]: He just goes to take a nice long shit.
[01:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's like what else?
[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We just stay on the chair.
[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: We know chairs are for poop.
[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how the Star Wars universe works.
[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Can I say they have a great apartment.
[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very nice apartment.
[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Now he's not on the lease right?
[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because they're not legally married.
[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Or they're not openly married.
[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: They might just be roommates.
[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I mean, Coruscant is very progressive in terms of domestic partnership.
[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a city planet so it comes with all of the things you imagine.
[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Very progressive.
[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_03]: But I have to imagine she's paying most of the rent.
[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Being a Jedi must not pay money.
[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I actually did talk to Woody Allen.
[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Woody Allen was a big fan of the apartments that the characters have in this movie.
[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: In this film.
[01:13:42] [SPEAKER_05]: He was like the apartments are great.
[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Really influenced the apartments in some of the...
[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like Woody don't be afraid to have characters have apartments in your films that they couldn't afford.
[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that looks a lot like you.
[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Like you see Melinda Melinda is a great example.
[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Great movie.
[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:13:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Great movie.
[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That came out before this movie.
[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_05]: The apartments in that are very reminiscent of this.
[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright so this he's crying.
[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh wow!
[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Now I can't believe you allowed a tear here.
[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I didn't allow it.
[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I CGI'd it.
[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That's CGI tears.
[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I created it.
[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh looky looky who's here.
[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_05]: C3 here.
[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: What was C3?
[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Notice the arms?
[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how you make a droid.
[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: All gold.
[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you make a red arm on a droid?
[01:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You have a question?
[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What?
[01:14:26] They didn't have gold arms and all your star was...
[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But they were shiny.
[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't red.
[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Kid Fisto guys, guys.
[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kid Fisto ladies and gentlemen.
[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_05]: They're the hands.
[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Motherfuckers.
[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Fucking Kid Fisto.
[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Sassy Tin in the house.
[01:14:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Fan favorite Kid Fisto.
[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: No way.
[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_11]: Kid Fisto's lame.
[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_11]: He's like Aquaman.
[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_11]: No he's not.
[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't say that Ben.
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't say that.
[01:14:41] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll take a lot of guff about movies from you.
[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you were worried the last hour of talking.
[01:14:47] [SPEAKER_05]: What's it going to lead to?
[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to lead to this.
[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this is cool.
[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just fucking loving it.
[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah finally something's happening.
[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Knocked down drag out battle.
[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the best scenes you're ever going to see in a movie.
[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pumped at this point.
[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen it nine times.
[01:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still pumped.
[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is going to...
[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Comes out from under his sleeve like Travis Bickle style.
[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_11]: George.
[01:15:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Light saber out.
[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.
[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_03]: He flubbers.
[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Griffin wants to know how come he doesn't fly everywhere.
[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Two.
[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So Kit lasts for a second there.
[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He lasts a little longer.
[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You knocked three of your four Jedi's out within six seconds.
[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's a badass.
[01:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: But Mace sticks up for himself.
[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Sam Jack's really, really into it.
[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's getting full body performance.
[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay and then Anakin's like you know what?
[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I should come back.
[01:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll get in the car.
[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to have the keys.
[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Palpatine gave me a spare key.
[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll land on his parking space.
[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone can get in anywhere very easily.
[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Anywhere.
[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a galaxy of access.
[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Pillars.
[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Pillars.
[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Now Griffin, do you have a problem with the fact that Palpatine doesn't spin fly everywhere?
[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.
[01:16:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I just think if people have that ability wouldn't they use it all the time unless
[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: it used up too much of their energy is your point.
[01:16:12] [SPEAKER_05]: That's... yeah.
[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Broke the space glass.
[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what... that's the kind of glass that they use for apartments on Corson.
[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the buildings are so tall in this space glass.
[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And McDermott's getting into this too.
[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_02]: See I'm loving this.
[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very divisive this performance.
[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_02]: He should really chop his head off anytime at this moment.
[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Right now.
[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Anytime.
[01:16:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not the Jedi way.
[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not the Jedi way.
[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: There's not even a door there.
[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_05]: A Sith would have done it but a Jedi won't do that.
[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just go to the door.
[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Because Jedis are good guys.
[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Cool shot.
[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh Jack's third birthday.
[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_05]: He's gonna mirandize him.
[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_05]: He's gonna mirandize him.
[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Anthony Daniels dubbed that line.
[01:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Voice of C3.
[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: We couldn't get audio from McDermott or anything else.
[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like Anthony you're pretty stupid.
[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Now what?
[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Dark side energy bolts.
[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Dark side energy bolts.
[01:17:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone say it with me.
[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Dark side energy bolts.
[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Dark side energy bolts.
[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean nobody counted on dark side energy bolts.
[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: George.
[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The voice that Palpatine uses there, he has not employed at any earlier point in the films.
[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Well do it a little bit.
[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_03]: A little bit.
[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And now his face is getting turned into mumbo's influence.
[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: What made him, is his real voice the do it do it voice?
[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Or...
[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and is this his real face?
[01:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That's his real face.
[01:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: That's his real face.
[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was all a disguise up until this point.
[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's been pretending.
[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: He's been playing the role of a real human being.
[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: This is his true nature.
[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_05]: This is his true nature.
[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So is he human?
[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He was afraid if he showed this face no one would like him and he was right.
[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But what do you mean he's super popular once he shows this face?
[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he gets elected to emperor.
[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they're gonna clap for him.
[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah they love him when he shows the face.
[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: He was worried.
[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But that's part of, I guess that's part of the lesson is don't be afraid to be yourself.
[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: What's the purpose of this movie about?
[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he spent a lot of time pretending.
[01:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Just be yourself man.
[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Pretending but this is what he identifies as.
[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Now Mace Windu who you've established in the previous films as being the most powerful of the Jedi's.
[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Taken out, I mean this is a sad death for a strong man you know?
[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: He's knocked out pretty quickly here.
[01:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you defend the way this depicts Mace Windu?
[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna say it.
[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Of course I do.
[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Limited power.
[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's all about batteries?
[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not like a destroyer droid.
[01:18:41] [SPEAKER_05]: He has unlimited power.
[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Why the black man gotta die George?
[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Black man.
[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Why the black man gotta die George?
[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Jonathan Braylock in the black man can't jump podcast.
[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Hey Johnny.
[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm genuinely terrified right now.
[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_05]: James the third from black man.
[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm here too what the fuck is this bullshit?
[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_05]: All due respect Misa sorry.
[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So George, George these?
[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You're gonna explain Jar Jar Binks.
[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Jar Jar Binks is the coolest guy in all the six movies.
[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh no.
[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_05]: He's cool and he's a good friend.
[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_05]: He's loyal.
[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: He gets a great job.
[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_06]: He's a politician.
[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_07]: He gets a great job.
[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_07]: First of all how come he gotta cut the man's hand off
[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_07]: and then you electrocute him
[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_07]: and then he just gotta fly out of goddamn window?
[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Push him out the window?
[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Push him out the window and he falls forever.
[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_07]: It feels like you had some vitriol over Mace Windu,
[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_07]: the only black man in a goddamn galaxy.
[01:19:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Only black man in a galaxy.
[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not true.
[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Landor Calrissian is also black.
[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't seen that.
[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We only see.
[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to spoil it.
[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I later off I cut off a whitey's hand.
[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I do and he falls the same way.
[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Well you cut off his hand too.
[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I do.
[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh you think just because you cut off another white dude's hand?
[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I do.
[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It's okay cause you cut off the black...
[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_08]: No!
[01:19:51] [SPEAKER_05]: In my defense I'm 71 years old.
[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm actually very progressive.
[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to look at me in context.
[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What are you guys thinking of that defense?
[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a pretty strong defense right there.
[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 71 years old.
[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Mace Windu, Mace Windu.
[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Nice to meet you James.
[01:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Mace Windu is really cool.
[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait I have a question.
[01:20:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Do black women exist in these movies?
[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah question.
[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Do they come back in the 4-5-6?
[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_06]: My wife is a black woman that's true.
[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Wait a minute.
[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_07]: So you put your kids in these movies?
[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[01:20:20] [SPEAKER_07]: You didn't put your wife in the movie huh George?
[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Cause she didn't want to be in the movies and I wasn't going to say no and also I made them before I met her.
[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_05]: But she doesn't want to be in Star Wars movies and I respect that.
[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to tell her she has to be in a Star Wars movie.
[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Misa don't like you.
[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah none.
[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But Mace Windu is a cool Jedi.
[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably the coolest Jedi in these movies.
[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_12]: He is the coolest Jedi.
[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And what happens there is a bad thing, an old white man.
[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I was representing the way the unfortunately...
[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_02]: George is really on the ropes here.
[01:20:50] [SPEAKER_05]: No I'm not on the ropes because whatever I reflect this is the worst events happen in episode 3.
[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the lowest point and it reflects as a metaphor the way Earth society, even though these are alien movies
[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and human races because that would be ridiculous and also troubling.
[01:21:10] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah it'd be troubling if there were like racist characters in these movies.
[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I would hate that.
[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah what if?
[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_05]: What if?
[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well we can speculate all day but let's talk about what's really in the movies.
[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But Mace Windu's death is a big tragedy, I'm against it.
[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I wish he won but he didn't because these movies are a tragedy.
[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Right but how come Yoda and Obi-Wan get to get away?
[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Well isn't that how it always happens?
[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm critical of it but like typical right?
[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Am I right?
[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that how it always happens George?
[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It shouldn't be but like, respect right?
[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_08]: You had the power George!
[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_07]: You had the power to change!
[01:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Wait wait wait, how come when Anakin turns evil he becomes a black man?
[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Does he not?
[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Do you see that George?
[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Explain his voice George!
[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Explain it!
[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Later on I promise you this later on it's revealed that a white man pretending to sound black.
[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_07]: So wait so when he becomes a white man and becomes good again he gets to be white?
[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Is that what you're trying to say?
[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_05]: No he's sad, he's sad, shriveled and he's embarrassed.
[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_05]: But you're saying he's pulling the dolas all the whole time?
[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah!
[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_05]: He's doing the voice very well!
[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Anakin dolas all!
[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_05]: He's uh fronting the whole time.
[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You know?
[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_05]: He's fronting?
[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's trying to play like he's black and he's not.
[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's one of Anakin's worst traits is that when he becomes Darth Vader he tries to sound black and he's not.
[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Shame on him!
[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Seriously shame on him!
[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And at the end he's humiliating because they take out the helmet and they're like what?
[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_05]: The most pale character in any of these movies.
[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So the whole Star Wars saga is just a lesson to white people not to try to pretend to be black?
[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, be yourself just like with the Emperor Palpatine.
[01:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Be yourself don't pretend not to be shriveled and evil when you are.
[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't pretend to be an actual politician.
[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_05]: No one, yeah no one, I'm on your side.
[01:23:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm shaking my head George Lucas, I'm shaking my head.
[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Shame on you for not liking Jar Jar Banks because he's cool.
[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you mean he's cool?
[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a bumbling buffoon!
[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_05]: He is not cool at all!
[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_05]: No, what if he read the internet the last month?
[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_05]: What if he's pretending to be...
[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait are you admitting that that internet thing is true?
[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_06]: No it's not true.
[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, so he is a buffoon.
[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know the internet thing.
[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Why would he...
[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a theory that he's secretly just pretending to be bumbling and then later will be a cool villain.
[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not, he's a great guy who would pretend to step in poop.
[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_05]: No one.
[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_03]: James John of course you host Black Man Can't Jump which is a podcast about
[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_03]: the depiction of African Americans in big Hollywood films and whether or not they help the cause.
[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's right.
[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And the cause is to have more people of color leading films that are not about race.
[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: This film has one person of color admitted by George possibly Jar Jar.
[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_03]: How do we think this film ranks?
[01:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Commander Cody, he's a Pacific Islander.
[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a Pacific Islander, sure.
[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I mean he will.
[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah he's the guy who gets to be a clone and gets to get killed again and again and again.
[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_12]: And he's about to murder all the Jedi.
[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_12]: So how would I rank Revenge of the Sith?
[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say if you gave it a black fist if it helped the cause a white palm.
[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_12]: Black fist, white palm or nothing.
[01:24:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean this movie gets nothing.
[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean it gets no...
[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Hold on.
[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't support the cause in any way.
[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me at the risk of causing another problem have you seen the last movie I made was Red Tails.
[01:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Not counting Strange Magic.
[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_05]: We're not talking about Red Tails right now.
[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_05]: George Lucas.
[01:24:43] [SPEAKER_05]: You like that movie Red Tails?
[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_08]: You can't just bring up Red Tails like that.
[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Takes care of what you did in this movie.
[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_08]: No for decades George, for decades.
[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Red Tails.
[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Because let's not even talk.
[01:24:53] [SPEAKER_07]: You want to talk about Lando Calrissian.
[01:24:55] [SPEAKER_07]: They know Calrissian is goddamn Pimp.
[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Everybody knows him.
[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody knows Lando's a Pimp.
[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_06]: You saying that in a good way?
[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_06]: No in a bad way.
[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you about...
[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay this is spoiler bread.
[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's how cool Lando Calrissian is.
[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_05]: He's in charge of Cloud City.
[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_04]: He's in charge of Cloud City.
[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_05]: He shows up but he's been tricked into doing this thing where he's had to betray his friend Han Solo, Princess Lay, all these things.
[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't even see this coming.
[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_12]: All quick deaths.
[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_12]: Can I point out though...
[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_12]: No real violence to the deaths like we saw with Mace Windu.
[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Right these deaths of sad music playing.
[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a tragedy when Mace Windu dies and falls out of a window.
[01:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't even turn around.
[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's about a blue woman.
[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh she does turn around.
[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Nope not really.
[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_02]: She gets damn some mushrooms.
[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_12]: They're killing her like what?
[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Police kill Black Metal at the time.
[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_12]: It's overkill.
[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_12]: There's 44 shots right there.
[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well that was right.
[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_05]: No hold on but in Ember Sharks back Lando Calrissian knows that within a few minutes he is going to have to betray...
[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Guys you're talking about a movie we haven't seen.
[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to say this I've said so much already.
[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what you're talking about.
[01:25:56] [SPEAKER_03]: This is plow clue.
[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_05]: He's going to betray them but with like five minutes until he reveals he's betrayed them.
[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He's actively trying to have sex with Princess Leia.
[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_05]: He's actively hitting on her.
[01:26:06] [SPEAKER_05]: That's cool.
[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's a bad stuff.
[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Like he thinks he has a chance.
[01:26:09] [SPEAKER_05]: He knows five minutes later she's going to hate him but he's still like turning it on.
[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute is there a swirl?
[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: Is there a swirl in that movie?
[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_06]: What do you mean?
[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_10]: No it's just a black man getting to have sex with the white woman.
[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_05]: No but like he gives it his best shot in like the most dire circumstance.
[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Because he's that cool.
[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_05]: No good George.
[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He has a shot.
[01:26:24] [SPEAKER_08]: George I'm shaking my head again George.
[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Do you guys think Disney would be crazy enough to put a black man in a black man?
[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_12]: As like a lead protagonist in their film?
[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_12]: I wish.
[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_12]: We talked about it.
[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_12]: That's the world I've been dreaming of.
[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_12]: It doesn't seem real.
[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The guys aren't going to be happy he's a stormtrooper.
[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Wait what?
[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_05]: They make a black guy into a stormtrooper.
[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I never did that.
[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_08]: But all the stormtroopers in this movie are not black.
[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't understand.
[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_08]: They're all.
[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_08]: How does that work George?
[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_08]: What do you mean?
[01:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I-
[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: George I think you just have to swallow your medicine.
[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_03]: You've gotten two nothings.
[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_06]: What do you mean?
[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You got two nothings on their scale.
[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah sorry George.
[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't help the cause.
[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_05]: No I'm portraying the problem in this universe.
[01:27:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm showing that it is a problem.
[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_05]: By just being a problem.
[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well I think you're wrong about Jar Jar.
[01:27:12] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a good friend, loyal, helps win a battle.
[01:27:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Guys he's an icon to kill some children.
[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what else he wants from him.
[01:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: He gets elected to the senate.
[01:27:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Then he gets tricked.
[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You know?
[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I have one question for you guys.
[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I have one question for you.
[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Is Hancock a good movie?
[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good question.
[01:27:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Gryffin that's a great movie.
[01:27:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Is Hancock a good movie?
[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_08]: No.
[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I like Hancock.
[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_08]: How do you feel about Hancock?
[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_08]: You like Hancock?
[01:27:33] [SPEAKER_08]: That was a really sad scene.
[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen Hancock yet.
[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen Hancock.
[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it a good movie?
[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a great movie.
[01:27:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I believe you.
[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great movie.
[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_03]: James III and John Braylock from Black Men and Kench.
[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for being here.
[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you George.
[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[01:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Padme's crying.
[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Padme's crying.
[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh she's crying, she's sad.
[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_03]: This is more emotion than you usually allow in these films.
[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Right here.
[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is that's a full on five second shot of crying.
[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah she's sad.
[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_02]: People aren't allowed to be sad before then.
[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I showed people sad.
[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: This is Smith's is going to go crazy.
[01:28:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Now this has to be your point of pride in the entire film.
[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: This is your son.
[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: The entire film.
[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm proud of every moment.
[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Your son Jet Lucas is at Jukasa.
[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright he's not here yet.
[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It's first to Smith's.
[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Pro Smith's.
[01:28:15] [SPEAKER_10]: What's wrong Ben?
[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_10]: Why are you sighing?
[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_11]: It's going on.
[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a lot of movie, Joe.
[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_10]: Are you sad you missed part of it?
[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_10]: It's a whole lot of movie.
[01:28:22] [SPEAKER_11]: No no I've seen it enough times and heard these guys talk about these movies for
[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_11]: 30 hours.
[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_11]: And I have to edit that.
[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what's Jet?
[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy Jukasa.
[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_10]: Look at that guy go.
[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_10]: The kid's called Jet Lucas.
[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: The character is Jet Jukasa.
[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_11]: So we're at like the hour and a half mark.
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait really?
[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah we're almost done.
[01:28:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank God.
[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[01:28:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you play it at half speed?
[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to slow it down?
[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No.
[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: This movie isn't slow enough.
[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Swimming.
[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Swimming.
[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You had to point out that he was swimming.
[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that real or is that digital?
[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_06]: Digital.
[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I find it easier.
[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I actually totally forgot about this.
[01:29:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's how great it is.
[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh fun.
[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Night time you never see him like this at night.
[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Well thank you all the walkies who are dead.
[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But you said Chewbacca's back.
[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So is Chewbacca the last of his species?
[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_05]: No he has a Christmas life day celebration.
[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They hid this thing behind a bush.
[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: There's itchy and not off.
[01:29:33] [SPEAKER_11]: David we haven't asked Griffin about how much money he makes.
[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't want to talk about that.
[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So what did you clear on that?
[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm unemployed.
[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin just filmed a whole HBO season.
[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I did nine out of ten episodes in a season.
[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Ben can I make a request?
[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah of course.
[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's coming February.
[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: February 14th.
[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Tonight I make a digital if you watch an HBO.
[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_05]: As soon as we're done watching the movie can we watch all the deleted scenes from this movie?
[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: No we're not going.
[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We're done watching the movie. Everyone's going to leave George.
[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: If I watch the final HBO go how much do you make?
[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like two cents? Four cents?
[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably something like that.
[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see how great the music is there.
[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: John Williams did a great job in all three of these films.
[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh here's the, this is such a cool ship.
[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a great ship.
[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Now tell us about the design process for this ship.
[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at this!
[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that!
[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So clean.
[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that!
[01:30:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that!
[01:30:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that!
[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at that!
[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Look at that!
[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_09]: This George.
[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Where'd this come from?
[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_09]: That's not digital!
[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Stop lying to me!
[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: What is your obsession with digital things?
[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you want to live in reality George?
[01:30:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you like things that are handmade right?
[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes I love them.
[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Digital.
[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying oh because the fingers type the keys.
[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah because it digits.
[01:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah digital.
[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't understand this aversion to practical things.
[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it because, okay okay you're the man who your wife left you for made things.
[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're this man again.
[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: No he was a craftsman.
[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He made stained glass windows with his hands.
[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And you looked at that and you went oh I'm only working on computers from here on out.
[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: No physical art.
[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Is there any connection there George?
[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Nailed it.
[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think I was going to win that one.
[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh you got him easily.
[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's true.
[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I think John and James really knocked him out just now.
[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_02]: They did, you seem a little defeated.
[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you seem a little winded after that.
[01:31:15] [SPEAKER_05]: George I am s- mace winded.
[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_05]: No I feel bad that they feel that way.
[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_05]: You do feel bad.
[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I do feel bad they feel that way.
[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_05]: The only thing I can tell them is just go back and rewatch the movies.
[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you'll see that you're wrong.
[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_02]: This is where Anakin has already murdered children alright?
[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He just killed a room of children.
[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Did we miss that?
[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah yeah you were going to yell that.
[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_11]: We were going to talk about the Benny Hill music.
[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you were going to do Benny Hill music over the child murder.
[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think we missed that one.
[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't technically work that out.
[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_11]: Benny Hill music while he's killing kids?
[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_05]: No all of the music has to be John Williams unless it's like an Ewok song or sliced noodles.
[01:31:55] [SPEAKER_03]: American graffiti was like one of the big early instances of using pop songs.
[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah it changed everything.
[01:32:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you never did that ever again.
[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_05]: No because why repeat yourself?
[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But in Strange Magic you soundtracked it with 100 songs that are on your iPod?
[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_05]: 200.
[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Humble brag.
[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah well each movie is different.
[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously Star Wars you want repeating themes,
[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_05]: you want to have things like that.
[01:32:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Every project's different.
[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_05]: These are all just one long movie, six part movie.
[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're telling us up until this point we've only seen half of the story.
[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Half.
[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You consider at this point we've just seen seven hours that constitute the first half of the film.
[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right and get ready.
[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Apologies for the middle part of the next thing you're going to watch.
[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh this part's heartbreaking.
[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_05]: They're so sad.
[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's really stroking her ear a little bit there.
[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Good acting.
[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean you seem to...
[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Even Ben's sad at this part.
[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben's just shell shot.
[01:32:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at him.
[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_03]: George.
[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I spent a few probably about...
[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably about...
[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just trying to establish a sign like...
[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the Empire Steel Boots?
[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_02]: That looks like the Empire Steel Boots.
[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That does look exactly like the Empire Steel Boots.
[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_05]: They just dropped that in there.
[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_05]: No because this...
[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_05]: No if anything the Empire State Building in our world ripped off that
[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_05]: because this happened first and this is about the Empire.
[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a movie George.
[01:33:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not real George.
[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not real George.
[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a billionaire I can do whatever I want.
[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying...
[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying that Jews are based off of Waddo?
[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_03]: They saw Waddo a long time ago and decided to base their behavior off of them?
[01:33:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I told you he's a dirty Guido.
[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_05]: How is that better?
[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not.
[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying it's different.
[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Waddo's not even in this movie.
[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great ship.
[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Cool ship.
[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't so great.
[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_05]: No that's just as good.
[01:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just as good?
[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That's just as good.
[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_03]: George I'm just trying to establish a timeline here.
[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So you make these films...
[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know this is a long movie.
[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You could have cut this maybe?
[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No you gotta know how ships get into things.
[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Otherwise you would have been complaining how that little ship
[01:33:54] [SPEAKER_05]: get into the bigger ship.
[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say...
[01:33:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Also it pays off later.
[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: These movies are very concerned with how people get to places.
[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's true.
[01:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Like you always show them walking through the door.
[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Climbing out of oceans.
[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Where do you live?
[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I live up in West Harlem.
[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_05]: You live in New York City.
[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_05]: How often do you talk about like oh the subway this or whatever.
[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but nobody's making a movie about him talking
[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: about taking the subway.
[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Most people cut those parts of the...
[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Well that's not my fault that no one's making a movie about Griffin.
[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not my fault.
[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't make movies anymore.
[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean...
[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But that's a good thing.
[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_05]: People love to talk.
[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_05]: If you live in a city where it's a lot of like
[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_05]: driving and highways, people talk about
[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_05]: oh how do you get to work?
[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_05]: How do you get here?
[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's valid to show like
[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_05]: how people get from here to there.
[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Big universe.
[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh great edit.
[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Mustafar here.
[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So describe this planet for us George.
[01:34:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a volcano planet.
[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know how like you have one planet made of cities?
[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_05]: This planet is made of volcanoes.
[01:34:46] [SPEAKER_02]: The whole things of volcanoes.
[01:34:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it all one volcano?
[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_05]: A whole planet of volcanoes.
[01:34:49] [SPEAKER_05]: One volcano.
[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_05]: It's this whole planet.
[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And are these guys just mining volcanoes?
[01:34:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah they get hot rocks for energy.
[01:34:56] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the energy source.
[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Is lava blocks?
[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It's an energy source.
[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It's controversial because there's a lot of people saying
[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_05]: like it's not sustainable.
[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to use all the hot rocks on the planet.
[01:35:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we need to find a better power source.
[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So the Namoridians, who I know you've defended them
[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: but were not popular characters.
[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_05]: They are popular characters and you insist they're Asian
[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_05]: even though you admit they've never been to Asia
[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_05]: nor are they related to anyone.
[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that they've been to Asia.
[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say they're not Asian.
[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you.
[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay do you know that I created Star Wars?
[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes I do know that.
[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Will you trust me when I tell you that
[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_05]: neither they nor anyone in their families
[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_05]: have ever, ever been to Asia.
[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It is hard to trust someone who has hurt me this much George.
[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I know.
[01:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of attention.
[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_05]: How did I hurt you?
[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I made magical films for you that you watched again
[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and again and again.
[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_05]: How did I hurt you?
[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got you there.
[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Show me on that bag of toys where I hurt you.
[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean here.
[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay ready?
[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Lot Dodd.
[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Jar Jar Binks.
[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Captain Panaka.
[01:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Hours of joy.
[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not getting so bad.
[01:36:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Cool scene.
[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Cool scene?
[01:36:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a, that's just a shot of a ship.
[01:36:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's another shot of a ship.
[01:36:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Just a shot of a ship.
[01:36:13] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what that started off as just green.
[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean yes.
[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And I turned it into that and I turned this into this.
[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And I turned this into this.
[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Your argument has always been
[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_03]: if I don't love these movies
[01:36:24] [SPEAKER_03]: then why are they watching them so much
[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and it's because honestly these films contain
[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: all the elements of everything I love in a movie.
[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[01:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I love space shanks.
[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I love epic storytelling.
[01:36:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Your laser sword.
[01:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I love laser swords.
[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Your laser sword.
[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_05]: These are all, your naming things that are in this movie.
[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Robots.
[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I like long term narratives.
[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Well okay I mean it's just six movies.
[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: You like R2D2?
[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah he's cool.
[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll take a look cause there he is.
[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I know he's kind of a dick.
[01:36:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: He's alright.
[01:36:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you glad he exists
[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_05]: or do you wish I would cut him out of the movies?
[01:36:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he has a lot of potential.
[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I see so much potential in all these movies.
[01:36:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Who are these little guys?
[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_05]: These little guys, these are great.
[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_03]: What, who are they?
[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_05]: They're just fun little floor robots.
[01:36:59] [SPEAKER_05]: They're like little, why is there, why you got it?
[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Why do you want answers to everything?
[01:37:04] [SPEAKER_09]: They're fun little scatterbots.
[01:37:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Cause it feels like you're just throwing glitter in our face.
[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You're doing like a retailer.
[01:37:09] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the death of one of your favorite characters.
[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what, I wish someone would throw glitter in my face.
[01:37:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It sounds fun.
[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The Namoydians have been established as the ultimate villains throughout these films.
[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Really.
[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: They set the whole thing in action.
[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: They're evil.
[01:37:19] [SPEAKER_05]: They're greedy.
[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You cut away right when Anakin's gonna kill them.
[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You show us Anakin killing children.
[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We don't think the same guy.
[01:37:24] [SPEAKER_05]: More powerful if you don't show it.
[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You show Yoda killing stormtroopers?
[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_05]: There he goes.
[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yoda is cool.
[01:37:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Yoda is.
[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what Gressen?
[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_05]: It's too small.
[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what?
[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You want it big.
[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's the problem with your generation.
[01:37:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's the problem with your generation.
[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh wait.
[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Take a look.
[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna be fun.
[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanna hear what the problem is with my generation.
[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: No, and I don't wanna hear what the problem is with our generation.
[01:37:45] [SPEAKER_05]: There he is.
[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Georgia.
[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Georgia represent.
[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Not, yes, represent by.
[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_02]: So see, this is everyone loves him.
[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He should have done this way earlier.
[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what he's learning.
[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Except for who he is.
[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he's learning.
[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_11]: How come they're not saying his face is all fucked up?
[01:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a positive message.
[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_05]: No.
[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what's talking about that.
[01:38:05] [SPEAKER_05]: If Joe Biden suddenly showed up like that, people would feel sorry for him as he's super popular.
[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_11]: No, they would be talking about it.
[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_05]: They would.
[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No, they would.
[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_03]: He's dead children.
[01:38:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But how come he uses that popularity only to do the wrong thing?
[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Why doesn't he turn back at this moment?
[01:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Why doesn't he at least cry right now?
[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking at a room full of dead children.
[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You should be crying.
[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you're begging for CGI tears.
[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_05]: By a lightsaber he was.
[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a little Benny Hill music.
[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to ask a question about Yoda?
[01:38:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Someone have a question about Yoda.
[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Here's a problem with your generation, okay?
[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Earlier generations.
[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Look here it is.
[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Here it is.
[01:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He kills most of them on screen.
[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: He does.
[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You were wrong.
[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll accept your apology in any form.
[01:38:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Just stay sorry, Gryphon.
[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_03]: The problem with my generation is...
[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: The problem with your generation is...
[01:38:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Earlier generation when I made Star Wars movies, they liked them.
[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And then your generation sewed everything and it to you.
[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_05]: There's Charter again.
[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: There's Powder.
[01:38:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Blood red.
[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: A little cameo by Powder.
[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're telling me that the generation that saw the early test screenings in the 70s and 80s liked them.
[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they just had to enjoy a Star Wars film.
[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And I dislike these movies when I saw them and that's the fault of my generation.
[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you get everything on your phone.
[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_05]: This was 2005.
[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I probably didn't even have a cell phone at this point.
[01:39:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, well then you were sad about that and it affected how you saw the movie.
[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you take responsibility for anything in your entire life?
[01:39:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Sure, I would take responsibility for me in 5 and a half for the best fucking movies of all time.
[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Red flag.
[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, seriously.
[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a major red flag.
[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Great orator though.
[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He's good at speeches.
[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why they like it.
[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't it be great if a president did that just...
[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: After getting his speech.
[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at that eye acting from Smiths.
[01:39:54] [SPEAKER_05]: See there, a full middle to left eyeball move.
[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you tell him to do that or is that CGI?
[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I did that digitally.
[01:40:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Now you hate these guys but look how great it is now.
[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_05]: To watch them die?
[01:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I could have done with the capitation there.
[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dooku, you went all out and this guy you gave him like a cut across the chest.
[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you gotta do everything different.
[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And look, it's General Grievous' favorite color again.
[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You see how much of it there is.
[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yo, it has the same color.
[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You think Jacosta knew that?
[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, what happened to Costa knew the librarian from Attack of the Clones?
[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They're in her library right now.
[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Died of a stroke unrelated to any of this.
[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't want to show that because that's just sad and doesn't further the plot.
[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this movie is definitely straight away from tragedy.
[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I've said in my...
[01:40:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I host a monthly talk show, UCPE East,
[01:40:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and I have said before that people ask why Jar Jar isn't in this movie.
[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And I have said before, and I'll repeat it here,
[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_05]: that I had to cut out...
[01:40:54] [SPEAKER_05]: as this movie.
[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You shot two and a half hours of the movie.
[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, this is a whole other movie.
[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_05]: This whole other movie basically, Jar Jar gets lost in a grocery store
[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and causes all kinds of mayhem, all kinds of havoc.
[01:41:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And it actually was the best part of the movie.
[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But sometimes you have to cut the best scene in the movie.
[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like, it's too long.
[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That was supposed to play as one continuous scene.
[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: There was gonna be like an hour and a half of Jedi stuff.
[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: In the middle of the movie there's one continuous scene in the movie.
[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We tried different edits where we would cut back and forth.
[01:41:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's better if it works as one hour and a half,
[01:41:23] [SPEAKER_05]: a two and a half hour shot in the middle of it
[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_05]: where he's in a grocery store.
[01:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: There was one continuous shot.
[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like Birdman, it was one...
[01:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it's digital.
[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no cut...
[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't matter.
[01:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what?
[01:41:34] [SPEAKER_11]: Fuck you, George.
[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_05]: No, but I had to cut it just because it doesn't advance the plot of this one.
[01:41:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And then...
[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_02]: No emotion.
[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: He's whining about having to kill Anakin right now.
[01:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: No, they're in shock.
[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: They're in shock, do you understand?
[01:41:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Shock doesn't look like this, George.
[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_03]: These people are just...
[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like someone told them that the subway is gonna arrive in five minutes.
[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_05]: No, most of the characters in the prequels are in shock the whole time.
[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They look like they're experiencing a minor inconvenience.
[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it looks like.
[01:42:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's what people in shock...
[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_05]: They often aren't projecting the emotions that you would expect.
[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's that lovely apartment again.
[01:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So we've seen like seven scenes since the moment that Anakin landed on Mustafar
[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and killed all the Neymar.
[01:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[01:42:20] [SPEAKER_03]: What's he just doing now?
[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like three days of house?
[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Just walking in a circle?
[01:42:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Just making sure they're dead.
[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just in a room with dead bodies for three days.
[01:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Make sure they're dead.
[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Because you don't know, maybe they come back to life.
[01:42:34] [SPEAKER_03]: See, I've commented that there was some interesting tension
[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_03]: between McGregor and Portman in this movie.
[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_03]: A little bit.
[01:42:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Was that intentional?
[01:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He touched her just then.
[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: He touched her on the shoulder just then.
[01:42:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:42:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely, I wanted there to be something fun going on here.
[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I have seen a dot dot dot security hologram dot dot dot.
[01:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But did you ever consider having that as like a motivator for Anakin
[01:42:56] [SPEAKER_03]: to turn to the dark side and lose his trust and to close his day?
[01:43:00] [SPEAKER_10]: What do you mean?
[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, his best friend, his mentor, and his wife,
[01:43:04] [SPEAKER_03]: if he suspected them of having an affair,
[01:43:06] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe that would be the impetus to then freak out and kill a bunch of people
[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_03]: rather than just being worried because we had a nightmare.
[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Griffin, okay, that sounds like a great complicated
[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: merchant ivory film but this is a children's movie.
[01:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to keep it simple.
[01:43:21] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[01:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I want kids to enjoy this.
[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: So try to get answers from Griffin.
[01:43:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I want kids to have fun when they're watching this movie
[01:43:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and what you're saying sounds like it's very sophisticated.
[01:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I applaud you maybe write a college paper on it or something.
[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever watched a child watch one of these movies?
[01:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, they have a great time.
[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: They do.
[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: You see them just having fun watching scenes like this.
[01:43:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:43:38] [SPEAKER_03]: They have fun.
[01:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: They're just having a ball when they watch stuff like this.
[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they love it.
[01:43:44] He has become a very great friend.
[01:43:46] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a great line?
[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's all line.
[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And she can't.
[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why she says it.
[01:43:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they just think about it.
[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They got a lot to process.
[01:43:58] [SPEAKER_05]: He gets up.
[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: She sits there because she doesn't want to get up.
[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_05]: She feels differently than him.
[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_05]: He stands but he looks at her because he has another question.
[01:44:06] [SPEAKER_05]: He wants to know is Anik and the father of...
[01:44:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And she's like...
[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, it doesn't look pretty at all.
[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Where's the baby?
[01:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Not pretty. Where's the baby?
[01:44:13] [SPEAKER_05]: She's not showing because...
[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: She has a fountain in her apartment.
[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: She has a water feature.
[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_05]: She has twins and she's 12 hours away from delivery.
[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She's about to give birth.
[01:44:21] [SPEAKER_05]: That was a space bidet.
[01:44:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Now George, this is coming up on the most effects heavy stretch of the movie.
[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Mostafar, Final Battle, all this.
[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Everything.
[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all gone so wrong.
[01:44:36] [SPEAKER_05]: What a dark side he's turned to.
[01:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So we promoted that we were doing this show and we were contacted by a former employee of yours from ILM.
[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Your special effects company who said he wanted to come talk about the process of doing the effect for this scene.
[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He said this was the most complicated scene in the movie.
[01:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know his name.
[01:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: He emailed anonymously, I think you know.
[01:44:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not to sever the relationship with you.
[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: We have an ILM employee here to speak on the film.
[01:45:00] [SPEAKER_03]: A round of applause please.
[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh hello.
[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey George, good to see you.
[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing?
[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Good to see you again.
[01:45:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What's your name sir?
[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Mike Drucker.
[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh hey Mike.
[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to stir your lights and magic.
[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's the name of a former guest we had on the show but you're a different person.
[01:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Different person entirely.
[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So the 3bio run, that was just a CGI 3bio that ran in the show.
[01:45:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Right there, right there.
[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So Mike give us an insight into what's going on.
[01:45:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so you give us a time code.
[01:45:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You said this time stamp of coming up right now is the most special effects heavy moment of the entire film.
[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I assume you mean the mostafar battle.
[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah no absolutely not.
[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: The most what little people don't know is that our most advanced CG character is Hayden Christiansen himself.
[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah well we started by hiring a Canadian actor but then he wasn't very good so we thought we could do better with motion capture.
[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And if you watch the same scene where he talks to Natalie Portman you can really see that it's some of the most advanced CG we've ever done.
[01:45:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So who did you hire to do the motion capture?
[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That was me.
[01:45:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You played the role.
[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Well I have a similar body type.
[01:45:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And George said that, see right here complete CG.
[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Looks great.
[01:46:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh thank you, thank you very much.
[01:46:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it George, I only do the best for you.
[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Well this scene is going on, this scene isn't very important.
[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Does anyone have any questions about the effects in the film?
[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, there's no open call.
[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone has a question about the effects in the film?
[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I did 90% of them myself.
[01:46:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking to apparently the man behind the role of Anakin Skywalker.
[01:46:24] [SPEAKER_03]: See right here this was made on a cray computer.
[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So you used all the vocal tracks that Anakin recorded?
[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well we had him in a studio for two weeks.
[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Right now Padme Amidala is about to land and she's played by a real woman named Natalie Portman.
[01:46:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You can see her in other movies but if you've noticed Hayden Christensen hasn't been in anything.
[01:46:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah none of the movies Hayden.
[01:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We tried to put him in a movie about a reporter, a small indie thing.
[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't work, nobody saw it so we killed the character.
[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying Hayden Christensen wholly owned by Iowa?
[01:46:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Holi owned by Disney now, Disney now unfortunately.
[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So loosely inspired by a Canadian TV actor and then brought to life through the magic of digital.
[01:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: You're really holding on Natalie here.
[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah you can't cut away from this, not when that's happening.
[01:47:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So alright CG right there, I don't know if you can tell but this is not a real place on the planet.
[01:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: No I can tell, yeah I can tell.
[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't exist, okay.
[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Well because it's also not a real planet.
[01:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Right, all these windows green screen, you don't think it.
[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright so here it comes, that took three months for that shot.
[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's you walking.
[01:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: That's me walking, you know it's like, alright hug.
[01:47:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Did you have to wear a robe or was the robe CGI something?
[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: No the robe is CGI, I mean I just wore a bunch of ping pong balls.
[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Now watch his eyes, his eyes actually never meet hers.
[01:47:37] [SPEAKER_02]: That was intentional, this was an intentional choice.
[01:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: See we do our best to keep the eyes down, eyes most human part of the person so we try to keep them out of the shot as much as possible.
[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Close.
[01:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: So what was the creative intention man?
[01:47:47] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's the reason you just couldn't get that, you couldn't get that right.
[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You notice what the technology wasn't there.
[01:47:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Right it was 2005-2004 a different time.
[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright you see, you can't see their eyes ever meet.
[01:47:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah he wouldn't want to look at her because he killed younglings.
[01:48:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Right of course, of course.
[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of a cheeky smile, that's an interesting acting choice for you to throw in there.
[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Well we had a stock archive of different expressions you could put on him so you could animate it faster.
[01:48:12] [SPEAKER_02]: So this is confusion, so he's like an emoji kind of guy.
[01:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But before emojis.
[01:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So Hayden Christensen was kind of your Simone.
[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: He was my Simone, I would call him my Simone, I did fall in love with him in a way.
[01:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[01:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah of course, how can you not fall in love with that face?
[01:48:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you think there was a big career to follow?
[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you think you'd made the ideal male movie star?
[01:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly believe there would be hundreds of thousands of movies with him in them.
[01:48:35] [SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately the audience just didn't connect with him the way they did with our other CG Jake Lloyd.
[01:48:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So Jake Lloyd, Jake Lloyd was motion captured too.
[01:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Jake Lloyd was also motion captured, we tested him in the sixth sense, people liked him a lot.
[01:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Or it jingle all the way rather that was Hayley the lost in the sixth sense.
[01:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, make things the way we want them to be.
[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_02]: See? Right here, there's a big line between the shots.
[01:48:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Different shot, that's a stand-in right there with long hair.
[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that you wearing a wig or is that...
[01:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: No that's just a stand-in that's approximately the right height, 5'3".
[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright see right there, stand-in, a CG character, that's a tennis ball just being held up for Natalie Portman to respond to.
[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So was she acting against anyone on set on the day?
[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely not.
[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But what about you?
[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not. George always told us that the best way to do it was to give them nothing to respond to at all.
[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I find this endearing.
[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if this is good acting but I find it endearing.
[01:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: She's so earnest.
[01:49:37] [SPEAKER_02]: She's really acting and we're doing it with the best we had in 2005.
[01:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying it's a matter of limited technology?
[01:49:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Limited technology, limited time, limited budget.
[01:49:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: This was an independent film technically.
[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That is true. With a budget of I think $150.
[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin this is what you wish for.
[01:49:54] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what you wish for Griffin.
[01:49:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't say this is what I wish for. I didn't wish for him to murder her.
[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_05]: No no, I wish for them to be that tension.
[01:50:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He sees Obi-Wan there and he gets mad.
[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah because he thinks that she told him. She thinks they're together.
[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_02]: See?
[01:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, she's supposed to be nine months pregnant with twins.
[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: We would also never have an actual man force choke a woman.
[01:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean that's respectable. I'll give you props for that.
[01:50:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[01:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright now we're about to get into our second biggest CG effect, the lightsaber battle.
[01:50:27] [SPEAKER_11]: I like this little, it's almost like a pre-Samba kind of stare down.
[01:50:41] [SPEAKER_02]: None of this existed on Earth.
[01:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just overloaded with awful expositions.
[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But you and McGregor was real right?
[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You and McGregor was real but if you notice we had to hold off for a while
[01:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: because we didn't have the processing power to actually have them get in a physical way.
[01:50:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it's like Roger Rabbit and Bob Hoskins they can touch only very rarely.
[01:50:58] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no life in his eyes.
[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're, I mean that was a technical limitation that you had to weaponize.
[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we had to weaponize.
[01:51:08] [SPEAKER_02]: He was going to stay the light side the whole time but we figured dark side, no life in his eyes,
[01:51:11] [SPEAKER_02]: easier way to go with it.
[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that true George?
[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, someone was true.
[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You know it's all very complicated when you're making a movie there's a lot of different people
[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_05]: do a lot of great work on it.
[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You know you try to control every aspect of it if you can ideally.
[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Again, not a place on earth.
[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah and now it's, I mean that's easy to do it.
[01:51:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's flubber.
[01:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Now we're just in flubber land forever.
[01:51:37] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people compare this part to like Shakespeare.
[01:51:41] [SPEAKER_02]: To like Shakespeare?
[01:51:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Any particular Shakespeare?
[01:51:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Name one person.
[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Tragedies.
[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say it's like Shakespeare.
[01:51:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Well I mean basically I hate to call you out on the stage but your former employer spent all last week
[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: giving big smooches to these movies.
[01:51:57] [SPEAKER_05]: The AV Club last week says these movies are great, people should appreciate them.
[01:52:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Before I go though I want to point out one thing.
[01:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yoda you don't think it CGI.
[01:52:07] [SPEAKER_02]: You're kidding me absolutely.
[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a guy?
[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We thought about going with the puppet and no one would believe it so.
[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Who did the performance for Yoda?
[01:52:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[01:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: How many characters in this film did you play?
[01:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I did the Yoda by going on my knees and putting two shoes in front of my knees.
[01:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So you dwarfed it.
[01:52:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You didn't know Yoda doesn't wear shoes.
[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright well thank you guys very much.
[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for coming.
[01:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: No relation.
[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No relation to past characters.
[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I hear you said tonight show fans.
[01:52:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh Ben you're back.
[01:52:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I heard a noise back saying before that sounded like a man dying and it was Ben making a noise just...
[01:52:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you just don't...
[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Just weary.
[01:52:44] [SPEAKER_05]: This movie is taking a toll on you because it's devastating what's happening.
[01:52:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
[01:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm giving you the movie you need not the movie you want.
[01:52:56] [SPEAKER_11]: I don't want to pay for that.
[01:53:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah but this sets up the next movies where things go differently.
[01:53:04] [SPEAKER_03]: How many times do you have to set something up before we get to the part that we actually want to see George?
[01:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Make this movie good.
[01:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Make the thing we want to see.
[01:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Three times.
[01:53:10] [SPEAKER_03]: The answer is three.
[01:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the same number of licks it takes to get to the Tootsie Rolls on a Rottuzzi Pop.
[01:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's your inspiration was the Tootsie Roll Pop.
[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah one, a two, a three.
[01:53:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah and then he bites.
[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Three.
[01:53:22] [SPEAKER_05]: He cheats.
[01:53:25] [SPEAKER_09]: The owl cheats George.
[01:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not the owl.
[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_05]: The number could be the same, the intention could be different.
[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_03]: George I know I'm coming at you with a lot of anger.
[01:53:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry I am too.
[01:53:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Give in to your anger.
[01:53:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like...
[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_05]: You're supposed to be angry.
[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_05]: The whole part of this movie is supposed to make you mad.
[01:53:45] [SPEAKER_05]: That's how Anakin gives in the dark side.
[01:53:47] [SPEAKER_05]: He gives into his anger.
[01:53:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think these are the movies of someone who doesn't trust other human beings anymore.
[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't.
[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Who views love as an evil.
[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_05]: No it's not an evil, I have a good wife now.
[01:53:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Well right but this movie was made in between those two points.
[01:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You have a wife she leaves you for a stained glass window artist.
[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You make these three films and then you get married afterwards.
[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And now you see much happening.
[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I make Strange Magic which is a very happy movie about love.
[01:54:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay well artists are you gonna get mad at Van Gogh for what he painted after he chopped his ear off?
[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No I'm just trying to make sense.
[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Are these the cries for help?
[01:54:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Are these the cries of a lonely man who just wants to find human connection in the world?
[01:54:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Look this is my blood on the tracks you know what I mean?
[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_11]: George I'm asking you.
[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_11]: It's a little dude and an old guy fighter right?
[01:54:27] [SPEAKER_11]: Were you sad George?
[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_05]: No I was very happy but sometimes you can draw on a past sad memory and tell a sad story.
[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin, Griffin.
[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_05]: No no but I'm getting something.
[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: No no.
[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this he's choking him out.
[01:54:37] [SPEAKER_05]: He's choking him out.
[01:54:38] [SPEAKER_03]: George do you make these films so someone would ask you if you're doing okay?
[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_05]: No I make these films to make people happy and make people angry.
[01:54:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Make people feel things and also make a lot of money.
[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_05]: George can I say something to you?
[01:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not your fault.
[01:54:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's not my fault.
[01:54:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not your fault.
[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the guy who made the stained glass window.
[01:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: George it's not your fault.
[01:54:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Listen I know Griffin I'm not the one who has issues.
[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_05]: You're talking about building a room that's a replica of your mommy's house.
[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: George it's not your fault.
[01:55:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Listen this is a great movie you're missing the point.
[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this battle.
[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever seen Goodwill Hunting George?
[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_05]: This is the pocket.
[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_05]: What?
[01:55:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Listen to me.
[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this.
[01:55:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Find one thing wrong with this.
[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_11]: You almost broke, Griffin you almost broke through.
[01:55:15] [SPEAKER_11]: You were close.
[01:55:15] [SPEAKER_11]: No you were close.
[01:55:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought movies are the language.
[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a happy guy.
[01:55:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Had a great life.
[01:55:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Things are going great for me.
[01:55:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I made Star Wars.
[01:55:22] [SPEAKER_05]: He has a billion dollars.
[01:55:23] [SPEAKER_05]: He does have a billion dollars.
[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_05]: All the money comes back to George.
[01:55:26] [SPEAKER_05]: All the money comes back to George.
[01:55:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at that.
[01:55:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh that's good acting.
[01:55:31] [SPEAKER_05]: That's good sword fighting.
[01:55:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben's crying because he's so sad he knows how it's going to end.
[01:55:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben you've seen this before right?
[01:55:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So you know how it ends right?
[01:55:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah no I know how it ends.
[01:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben have you seen the ending before?
[01:55:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright so that's why you're sad.
[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_11]: Yes that's why I'm.
[01:55:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You should be sad.
[01:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at this.
[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh they want to be friends but they can't be anymore.
[01:55:51] [SPEAKER_05]: They're jumping and fighting.
[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_05]: They have problems with each other but I think deep down they want to care about each other.
[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_05]: They just can't anymore.
[01:55:58] [SPEAKER_02]: So are they activating?
[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_02]: What are they doing here?
[01:56:00] [SPEAKER_05]: What?
[01:56:00] [SPEAKER_05]: They're on a volcano planet.
[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: They're turning off the machine?
[01:56:03] [SPEAKER_05]: No they're fighting in a room that has machinery.
[01:56:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So the fact that things are active.
[01:56:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Now they're out on the patio.
[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright so it's more dangerous because inside they were saving.
[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_11]: They were for a veranda.
[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Inside I don't think you could tell inside was air conditioned.
[01:56:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Outside is very hot.
[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Volcano hot.
[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: See this is the pog battle.
[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh great work.
[01:56:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh boy now this is fun because he's controlling those little frisbees.
[01:56:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why we didn't make these as toys.
[01:56:36] [SPEAKER_05]: People could throw these.
[01:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't make these as toys?
[01:56:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't make these as toys.
[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Not as frisbees.
[01:56:40] [SPEAKER_02]: That would have been good.
[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Frisbees explode when they hit something.
[01:56:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We've seen Yoda prove himself to be a great fighter.
[01:56:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Why is he so...
[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: No we haven't we saw him lose.
[01:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He's really...
[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't seen him a great fighter.
[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_05]: He lost the fight to do this.
[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Stumped by this.
[01:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh then he does the spinning move.
[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So was every Yoda fighter draw?
[01:56:57] [SPEAKER_05]: That we see.
[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't want to show him winning fights.
[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_05]: That's boring.
[01:57:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And you hear the musical theme from...
[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_05]: From Phantom.
[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Duel of the Fates from Phantom Menace.
[01:57:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[01:57:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all coming full circle.
[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_05]: If you like Phantom Menace now you're like oh good the song I like.
[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Every time I hear this music I want to eat Taco Bell food.
[01:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you have a hand in that campaign?
[01:57:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[01:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The Chihuahua and Colonel Sanders and the Pizza Hut employee all went on a journey across the galaxy in a car.
[01:57:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you write and direct those?
[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't direct those but those were canon until Disney decided to make the expanded universe not part of it.
[01:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You seem to have a lot of resentment for Disney.
[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't.
[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I love their money.
[01:57:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I just hate their decisions.
[01:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's gross.
[01:57:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That was gross.
[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So you have no creative say over the future of songs.
[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Not anymore, no.
[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I email them stuff but they don't like it.
[01:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You think they've added you to a spam filter George?
[01:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes I feel like I'm going in a folder I don't like.
[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh no he loves this.
[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Well this is silver lining.
[01:57:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Jacket.
[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay this is silver lining.
[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You know I do have a complicated relationship with these movies but I admit it would be fun to be in a Star Wars movie.
[01:58:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So you said the next one comes out in a couple weeks right?
[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Right that one's done.
[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't be in it's locked.
[01:58:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay and the next one episode eight is there an episode eight?
[01:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:58:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's in two years.
[01:58:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Are they still casting for that?
[01:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: No they're done casting on that.
[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And who's directing that one?
[01:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: That's Ryan Johnson.
[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh that's a good choice.
[01:58:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's a good director.
[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: JJ Evans, Ryan Johnson.
[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good choice.
[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_03]: These are some good names.
[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay so episode nine I mean are they going to make an episode nine?
[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_03]: They have to round out the trilogy right?
[01:58:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So I could audition for that.
[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I see where you're going with this.
[01:58:34] [SPEAKER_05]: That could be fun.
[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Who's directing episode nine?
[01:58:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to remember his name.
[01:58:37] [SPEAKER_05]: The guy directed Jurassic World.
[01:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, my friend Steve helped produce that.
[01:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't move it.
[01:58:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Colin Trevor?
[01:58:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Colin Trevor that's his name.
[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Colin Trevor is directing episode nine?
[01:58:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Episode nine.
[01:58:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry bud.
[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think he's ever listening to podcasts?
[01:59:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Probably.
[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We've mentioned him a couple times.
[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So very popular podcast.
[01:59:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I like this scene a lot.
[01:59:08] I like this scene a lot.
[01:59:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And here they are still fighting on the volcano because now you know they really mean it.
[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[01:59:19] [SPEAKER_05]: If they didn't mean it they would have stopped fighting by now but you can tell there's no hope for them.
[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't maybe take a break and be like hey let's move this somewhere a little safer.
[01:59:27] [SPEAKER_05]: No, they're so mad at each other.
[01:59:29] [SPEAKER_05]: The reason they fight on a volcano planet is I wanted to show that they're so mad at each other
[01:59:33] [SPEAKER_05]: that they don't even say let's go fight somewhere that's not a volcano.
[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Obi-Wan's mad because Anakin killed a lot of people.
[01:59:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And Anakin's mad because Obi-Wan was on a ship.
[01:59:43] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
[01:59:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's how you know Obi-Wan is a good guy and Anakin is now a bad guy and you can tell that
[01:59:51] [SPEAKER_05]: because Obi-Wan's motivations are a little more noble and Anakin's kind of unreasonable
[01:59:56] [SPEAKER_05]: because he's going to the dark side.
[01:59:57] [SPEAKER_05]: So how many hundreds of people worked on this like one, two minutes?
[02:00:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's all about the same it's all about there's oh this looks great.
[02:00:06] [SPEAKER_05]: He's in there.
[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_05]: This was actually just candid.
[02:00:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Showing how he gets places.
[02:00:09] [SPEAKER_05]: This is we actually just there's just candid footage that we did of him having a smith.
[02:00:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy Smith knows to pull up.
[02:00:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Smithship.
[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Smithship.
[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't the Smithship.
[02:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a Smithship.
[02:00:19] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a Smithship.
[02:00:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the Smithship.
[02:00:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It takes out I must go.
[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I must go.
[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Fail I have.
[02:00:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So he takes responsibility George.
[02:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he knows he messed up.
[02:00:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[02:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Shoulda won.
[02:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And you also said in our last episode that Yoda was the character you related to in Mars.
[02:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So do you ever feel that you know you have failed?
[02:00:37] [SPEAKER_02]: No.
[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_05]: In any way at any point in your life.
[02:00:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Never.
[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to get him.
[02:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: No I I mean if by fail you mean I mean like you think this movie is a failure yet you can't
[02:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: stop watching it and it's hugely successful movie by any metric.
[02:00:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh no I can stop watching it.
[02:00:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think you easily you say that and yet here you are.
[02:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[02:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You got me there.
[02:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've been.
[02:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Now they're going to swing at each other.
[02:01:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I know you're best kind of like your friends with different.
[02:01:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't believe you're that good of friends.
[02:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: You would watch this many times.
[02:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: You didn't love it on some level.
[02:01:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Now what's going on here for doing these things.
[02:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, beautiful work.
[02:01:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Now in a behind the scenes documentary you credit Steven Spielberg with coming up with
[02:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: this idea of the thing.
[02:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: The director.
[02:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: The director.
[02:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: He helped you out with some of the pre-vis on this movie.
[02:01:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: We all we're buddies so we all help each other out with ideas.
[02:01:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean any any filmmaker like filmmakers.
[02:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: That looks realistic.
[02:01:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just no weight to this sequence.
[02:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And you always contribute a little bit like there's insert shots in the Godfather that I directed.
[02:01:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that true?
[02:01:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That's crazy.
[02:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Like when Al Pacino's character sees a newspaper headline.
[02:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:01:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And it cuts the newspaper.
[02:01:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I directed that.
[02:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You directed the shot of the inanimate object.
[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Of the newspaper.
[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[02:01:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And I had a great time working with it even though it was a practical effect.
[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It was easy to direct the newspaper to get the performance I wanted.
[02:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And it really felt very similar working on these films.
[02:02:01] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like it's like I'm working with that newspaper from the Godfather again.
[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Getting at same level of like classic movie performance.
[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben's just texting right now.
[02:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben's just texting on his phone right now.
[02:02:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I should have known the Jedi were applying to take over.
[02:02:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You should have.
[02:02:13] [SPEAKER_11]: We're at the two hour mark.
[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_11]: Here we go.
[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_11]: He tells them that the potential problem is legal.
[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And then he explains from his point of view the Jedi are evil.
[02:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, from his point of view you see the Jedi are evil.
[02:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at those random guys.
[02:02:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And so you see what he feels is true from a certain point of view.
[02:02:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Now George we're coming to a sequence that I really don't understand which is the high ground sequence.
[02:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about the high ground.
[02:02:33] [SPEAKER_02]: What is that about?
[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you really gotta clear your throat out for that one.
[02:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Pulling a grievous there aren't you?
[02:02:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Pulled a little grievous.
[02:02:39] [SPEAKER_05]: The high ground sequence.
[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_05]: A classic film sequence.
[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_05]: That movie fans love to watch.
[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Now in this sequence even though they're both Jedi's with magic powers.
[02:02:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It is significant.
[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Because one of them is a little higher than the other one.
[02:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: He is undefeatable.
[02:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though Anakin could go anywhere else.
[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I have the high ground.
[02:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's over.
[02:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And he holds his hands up like you know it's over.
[02:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Why doesn't Anakin just jump down over there and then run at him?
[02:03:07] [SPEAKER_05]: First of all do I need to explain to you how lava works?
[02:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't try it.
[02:03:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't try to jump over me.
[02:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: He just lazily slices at him.
[02:03:15] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean you're taking it literally.
[02:03:17] [SPEAKER_05]: He was higher but he has the moral high ground.
[02:03:19] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why he's gonna win it.
[02:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[02:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Why does that never come up in any previous battle though?
[02:03:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah why don't Jedi's just constantly try to run up some sort of ledge or slope?
[02:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yoda had the high ground over Palpatine because he was in a higher hockey puck.
[02:03:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I know but Yoda will never have the high ground.
[02:03:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He'll have the moral high ground but never fully have the high ground because he's so short.
[02:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: He's very short.
[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying it's literally about who's taller.
[02:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Ewan's big mom.
[02:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.
[02:03:41] Bring balance to the floor.
[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Which he will eventually.
[02:03:45] Yeah.
[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Well you could argue he already has.
[02:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: With brought balance to the force?
[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, two-two.
[02:03:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of a cold move to just leave him there.
[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Well or he could just kill him.
[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_05]: He's still mad at him.
[02:03:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And also he hates him.
[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_05]: He's still saying hurtful things.
[02:04:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Anakin hates him.
[02:04:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We cut Obi-Wan a break.
[02:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Because even at this moment Anakin's still saying really horrible things.
[02:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And Obi-Wan's saying nice things.
[02:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[02:04:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Well he also said.
[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: These are nice things even if they're past tense.
[02:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah past tense.
[02:04:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And Anakin is saying things like that.
[02:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Little lava.
[02:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's really too late for him.
[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah when you get close to lava you know your clothes catch on fire.
[02:04:23] [SPEAKER_05]: You're saying that like it's not true.
[02:04:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I am saying that like it's not true.
[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Fun fact not real fire.
[02:04:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all digital.
[02:04:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And Obi-Wan hates this.
[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like.
[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's gross.
[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Disgusting.
[02:04:35] [SPEAKER_05]: No one would want to watch this.
[02:04:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Happen to anyone let alone someone they've known for ten years.
[02:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Right now Obi-Wan hates this.
[02:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah of course he does truly.
[02:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Where does he go?
[02:04:43] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like I can't watch this.
[02:04:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It's disgusting.
[02:04:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Did he like park near here?
[02:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Is that why the battle concludes here?
[02:04:49] [SPEAKER_02]: How does he get over here?
[02:04:51] [SPEAKER_02]: He walked over there.
[02:04:53] [SPEAKER_03]: We're film soaking so that people get to play.
[02:04:55] [SPEAKER_05]: That was a great cut.
[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I filmed it but because uh uh
[02:04:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Ewan was saying let's film the part where I walk from here to there
[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_05]: and I'm like I'll film it but there's no way I'm going to use it.
[02:05:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna do a hard cut for you walking over the top.
[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Now she's nine months pregnant by the way.
[02:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden.
[02:05:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay well these are space pregnancies for one thing.
[02:05:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah just saved real quick.
[02:05:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good.
[02:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And look she's she feels terrible right now.
[02:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: She can do it in there.
[02:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I have to admit I kind of lied to you guys earlier in the evening.
[02:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: What?
[02:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I said we were done with the fan fiction.
[02:05:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No come on Griffin.
[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_02]: What's happening?
[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I went off easy at the beginning.
[02:05:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I picked a very very chase story.
[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Are we gonna miss the end of the movie?
[02:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I just think this is someone giving birth which is the product of sex.
[02:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on it's topical.
[02:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But at this scene in the movie.
[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: She's gonna give birth to two major characters.
[02:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I mean you know if Rachel Lang wants to get back up here.
[02:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I did find a different story about Anakin and Padme.
[02:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And I felt like the last fan fiction segment didn't really play that well.
[02:05:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So I asked two friends of mine performers, actors, comedians to come.
[02:05:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Fantastic.
[02:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And sort of interpretively act out the sex acts that I'm gonna read.
[02:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So if Rachel Lang comes to stage and also from our cousin podcast on the UCB network.
[02:06:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Murph Meyer and Diana Kalski from Monogatois.
[02:06:10] Hey Diana.
[02:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: How you guys doing?
[02:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice to see you.
[02:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry about this.
[02:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna read a story for you right now that's called Taking Charge.
[02:06:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's sort of one fan fiction writer's foray into the BDSM genre.
[02:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I like to call it 50 Shades of Padme.
[02:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And it starts out the way that all good stories start out with the writer saying it starts out.
[02:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And Rachel will take every other paragraph.
[02:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It starts out with Anakin teasing Padme about her fighting abilities.
[02:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: In spite of the many scrapes she's managed to get herself out of without Jedi protection or assistance.
[02:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that she put herself in the line of fire is irrelevant she argues.
[02:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Because she took care of things herself.
[02:06:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Her husband's reluctance to admit that she's capable of saving her own skin pisses her off.
[02:07:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So there's no dialogue in this.
[02:07:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Look.
[02:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Look.
[02:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin says, and he starts putting his boots all over the expensive throw in her bed which doesn't help his cause.
[02:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh that's not okay.
[02:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It's cute in everything that you want to help out.
[02:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I just think you're better staying behind a desk.
[02:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's safer.
[02:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: His gaze is well meaning.
[02:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Even a bit adoring.
[02:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But Padme is feeling like she has something to prove.
[02:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Suddenly Anakin is being straddled.
[02:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Moose fast.
[02:07:33] [SPEAKER_00]: He laughs.
[02:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Ignoring the annoyed expression on his wife's face.
[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it when you get all feisty.
[02:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He grins.
[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Good Anakin.
[02:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Not answering Padme starts digging in the top drawer of her nightstand.
[02:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: She pulls out a filmy scarf and begins winding it around the glove wrist of Anakin's robot hand.
[02:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin watches her bemused.
[02:07:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Soon both wrists are tied to separate posts.
[02:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin on his back, his head propped on a couple of simmer-choke pillow shams.
[02:08:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He watches his wife dangle another scarf in front of him and cooperatively lifts his head
[02:08:05] [SPEAKER_03]: so he can tie it around the back of his skull, effectively blindfolding him.
[02:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: This is great podcasting.
[02:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: No one listening to this will know what's happening on stage.
[02:08:15] [SPEAKER_03]: What does a senator need all these toys for?
[02:08:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He asks amused, cock-shore.
[02:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Padme slaps him abruptly across the face.
[02:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's open poem but sharp and Anakin's mouth forms an O of surprise.
[02:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: He will speak only when spoken to.
[02:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Padme tells him there is a husky tenor to her voice now.
[02:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin bites his lip still unable to stop grinning.
[02:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, my lady he answers.
[02:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Padme growls and digs into his sides and he squirms.
[02:08:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Ah okay no talking he mutters.
[02:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You're horrible at this Annie Padme complains and Anakin can hear her clothing rustling.
[02:08:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Loud clothes.
[02:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: He manages to stay quiet while she divests him of his outerwear
[02:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: as best she can by sliding and shoving it up and down.
[02:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: He knows his nipples are exposed when he feels Padme's perfectly manicured nails flicking one of them.
[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He groans.
[02:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Padme shifts a bit and seems to be rummaging around again in her nightstand.
[02:09:17] [SPEAKER_00]: A small sting lands between Anakin's spectraurls, a crock he guesses,
[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and he moans openly able to control himself but now he doesn't.
[02:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Padme whips him along his torso and up and down his thighs.
[02:09:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Her crop gets dangerously close to his penis but seems to be carefully kept away.
[02:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you like this?
[02:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Padme asks slash orders him in her senator voice.
[02:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: A hand grabs his cock thoughtfully.
[02:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You sure seem to be enjoying it.
[02:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Milady.
[02:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin feels Padme shift and realizes that his beard feels her bare legs
[02:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and ass rubbing against his own naked skin.
[02:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: He smiles against his wife's mouth when she kisses him.
[02:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to eat me out Annie Padme says softly close to his ear
[02:10:09] [SPEAKER_00]: her warm sweet breath tickling his cheek not unpleasantly.
[02:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't repeat her direction simply moves forward until Anakin can smell the heady musky scent of her crotch.
[02:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It takes a moment to get the right rhythm.
[02:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin's and balance Padme's.
[02:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Anakin can feel his wife's warm as she struggles not to sit on his face and neck outright
[02:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: or to bear down too hard.
[02:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin's tongue darts out steady and methodical.
[02:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Padme's pubic hairs tickling his nose.
[02:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Padme quivers and moans as he licks her cunt.
[02:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Gasping and clutching her husband's hair and shoulders and her own breast as his tongue rubs against the tiny nub at the top of her slit.
[02:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Anakin catches on quickly and begins concentrating on that specifically
[02:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: running his tongue in slow circular motions breathing carefully so he doesn't asphyxiate.
[02:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an arduous project even though Padme is pretty well fired up
[02:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: but Anakin has had to endure multiple hours of meditation with Master Yoda
[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's way less fun and that's the end of the fucking story.
[02:11:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Big thanks to Dan Akolsky, Merv Meyer, listen to Minajah Tua on UCB Radio
[02:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks again to Rachel Lange.
[02:11:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Just in time for Darth Vader.
[02:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: To RISE. Now George this is your least favorite word in the universe.
[02:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That's right it's a very...
[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's a useful word, I understand there's context in which I'm in favor of it.
[02:11:42] [SPEAKER_05]: A negatory.
[02:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Listen to...
[02:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he says at this point that's to you a sign that he is irredeemably over on the dark side now.
[02:11:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Well because right now this is like the point in Minajah Cowboy
[02:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: where John Voight is like give me the money and Bob Allent's like I don't have the money.
[02:12:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So the Emperor is Bob Balaban in the scene.
[02:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: The Emperor is Bob Balaban in the scene.
[02:12:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I see and he's John Voight.
[02:12:05] [SPEAKER_05]: But I did what you wanted and I'm supposed to get money for it.
[02:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Now he's right, she was alive.
[02:12:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And this is how John Voight felt when he realized he engaged in an oral sex act with Bob Balaban
[02:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: and wasn't even going to get paid for it.
[02:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why right now he's gonna say...
[02:12:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Just like Anakin he turned the dark side so that his wife wouldn't die and she died anyway
[02:12:23] [SPEAKER_05]: and look, have a... have a time.
[02:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You're wincing right now.
[02:12:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Me?
[02:12:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah you're shaking it at the utterance of that word.
[02:12:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel terrible for him.
[02:12:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Bad word.
[02:12:36] [SPEAKER_05]: For Annie.
[02:12:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Little Annie.
[02:12:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I should point out because I think it's a good piece of writing that I'm really proud of
[02:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: that during the sequence where sexual things were happening, Amidala died and it was made
[02:12:49] [SPEAKER_05]: very clear that medically speaking she was completely healthy.
[02:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: They don't know why she was dying and she had simply lost the will to live.
[02:12:57] [SPEAKER_05]: This is what a medical droid said.
[02:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's a good explanation because we don't know why she died except maybe she just didn't
[02:13:04] [SPEAKER_05]: want to live anymore.
[02:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: You think it's a good explanation that the movie itself tells you that it doesn't know
[02:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: why something is happening?
[02:13:10] [SPEAKER_05]: No but they said she must have lost the will to live so it did tell you.
[02:13:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Should we go back to it?
[02:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: No.
[02:13:15] [SPEAKER_03]: No, we shouldn't go back.
[02:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We just have to muscle through this.
[02:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: George I'm just...
[02:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to get you to admit that...
[02:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not gonna get a bit of anything.
[02:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That you feel that you're a hurt man and I'm not saying you're a sad man,
[02:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying you're a bad man.
[02:13:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I understand where you came from.
[02:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I am hurt that they won't use my ideas on the new movies but I don't have anything
[02:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: with good feelings about this movie.
[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I think these films are the product of your loneliness and your feeling of rejection
[02:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: from the world, a world that didn't trust you and didn't support you.
[02:13:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the third film people didn't like the first two.
[02:13:44] [SPEAKER_03]: They loved the first two.
[02:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: These are a cry for help.
[02:13:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey listen go to your web browser, go to avclub.com and see how much people don't
[02:13:50] [SPEAKER_05]: like these movies okay?
[02:13:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Griffin the movie's almost over.
[02:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I just wanted to tell you.
[02:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he's mad.
[02:13:54] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like a child lashing out now.
[02:13:56] [SPEAKER_05]: The same way that Anakin said hurtful things when he was mad.
[02:13:59] [SPEAKER_05]: You're mad now that the movie is about to end.
[02:14:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You're worried you won't have a reason to keep watching it.
[02:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: But if I'm Anakin, you're Palpatine.
[02:14:05] [SPEAKER_05]: No I'm Yoda.
[02:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Why are they wiping their memories?
[02:14:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No just C-3PO.
[02:14:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Not R2D2.
[02:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So R2D2 remembers everything?
[02:14:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[02:14:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So in the next three movies they don't know what happened?
[02:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Good acting about to happen.
[02:14:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Elephant pulling her casket.
[02:14:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah space casket.
[02:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So Naboo open casket funeral always?
[02:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:14:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Those are parents?
[02:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: These are the times we've seen a lot of citizens of Naboo.
[02:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Very sad.
[02:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Actic sad.
[02:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Sad boss naps.
[02:14:39] [SPEAKER_05]: People say he's just a comedy character.
[02:14:40] [SPEAKER_05]: That's devastating.
[02:14:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Look how sad Jar Jar was.
[02:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Elephant tales.
[02:14:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is the one shot.
[02:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Academy award nominee Keisha Castle Hughes.
[02:14:47] [SPEAKER_03]: This is her follow up to being nominated for best actress for whale ride.
[02:14:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[02:14:51] [SPEAKER_02]: That's her whole performance.
[02:14:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Good choice.
[02:14:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Good choice.
[02:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you shoot more with her that was cut off?
[02:14:56] [SPEAKER_05]: No that's all I needed.
[02:14:56] [SPEAKER_05]: She's carrying this little thing we are in for a mention of.
[02:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's use her in small doses.
[02:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Just a little bit of seasoning.
[02:15:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Just a little bit of spice right there to make the ending perfect.
[02:15:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And now look at these ships.
[02:15:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Really cool Darth Vader's ready.
[02:15:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll give him that.
[02:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[02:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It could be better.
[02:15:08] [SPEAKER_02]: It could be better.
[02:15:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And look they've got new outfits.
[02:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: This looks great.
[02:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: They've got new outfits.
[02:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that too.
[02:15:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So why did they switch to like Gallagher computers?
[02:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Like how did that happen so quick?
[02:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Technology looks very retro.
[02:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Suddenly it's just lights.
[02:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Just a lot of blinking lights.
[02:15:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's just an aesthetic change.
[02:15:24] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a little bit more Swedish kind of like sparks.
[02:15:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[02:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying that the Empire really refined design.
[02:15:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little bit like,
[02:15:31] [SPEAKER_02]: A little grumpy.
[02:15:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Not happy about this.
[02:15:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And up until this point all the people were working.
[02:15:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Folding his arms just the way the Jedi used to fold their arms.
[02:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I'm saying?
[02:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't look at the ground though.
[02:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Up until this point everyone working for Palpatine has been a robot
[02:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and suddenly he has a bunch of Germanic humans.
[02:15:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[02:15:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Wearing third rike uniforms.
[02:15:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Things have changed.
[02:15:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Darth Vader's now on board.
[02:15:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He's got some new ideas.
[02:15:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Part of it's like let's get more.
[02:15:52] [SPEAKER_02]: These films are nothing but not subtle.
[02:15:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:15:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait what's this scene?
[02:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the Smith Ship landing.
[02:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh this is where he's from.
[02:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: The baby.
[02:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: He gets one of the babies.
[02:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So this is one of the lead characters of the new movie?
[02:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Leia?
[02:16:06] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah you'll see.
[02:16:08] [SPEAKER_10]: That's his wife.
[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's his wife.
[02:16:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Remember when he talks about his wife before?
[02:16:11] [SPEAKER_10]: She is a peer.
[02:16:11] [SPEAKER_03]: There she is.
[02:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I drink too much.
[02:16:13] [SPEAKER_05]: He'll take the girl because he has a wife.
[02:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay that's what we're down to.
[02:16:19] [SPEAKER_05]: George.
[02:16:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But that's what he says.
[02:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Me and my wife are both wanted a little girl.
[02:16:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take the girl.
[02:16:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Is the next movie like Star Wars Babies?
[02:16:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it like them and Todd looks?
[02:16:27] [SPEAKER_05]: A little bit but we flash forward a little bit.
[02:16:29] [SPEAKER_05]: We jump into the future a little bit more.
[02:16:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to say this is pretty cool.
[02:16:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I like this.
[02:16:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like this is the love of the next movie.
[02:16:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Really?
[02:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's more of this?
[02:16:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah a lot more of this.
[02:16:39] [SPEAKER_05]: This is good.
[02:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very minimal.
[02:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Our uncle Owen and Aunt Peruna?
[02:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but they're older.
[02:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that's cool though.
[02:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah thank you.
[02:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pumped for the next movie.
[02:16:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been telling you this whole time.
[02:16:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you're super cool George.
[02:16:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Luke's in it and he's in the desert?
[02:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah they're farming for moisture.
[02:16:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a moisture farmer?
[02:16:56] [SPEAKER_05]: He's a moisture farmer because as I told you energy is important.
[02:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's Joel Edgerton.
[02:17:00] [SPEAKER_03]: God I gotta say I'm like now knowing there's another film after this
[02:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I get shows looking at this ending.
[02:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's good.
[02:17:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Imagining what lies ahead.
[02:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a painted sunset there.
[02:17:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Two suns.
[02:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even notice that.
[02:17:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Last Fantasy proudly presents TLF sub team.
[02:17:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Joel Edgerton right there.
[02:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I hesitate to say this but it does feel like there's a hope.
[02:17:18] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a fucking hope that things might...
[02:17:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that part's new.
[02:17:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god it's over.
[02:17:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh wow.
[02:17:24] [SPEAKER_05]: We did it.
[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't believe you guys watched that.
[02:17:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[02:17:27] [SPEAKER_11]: That's nice.
[02:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick McCollum.
[02:17:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Tricky Rick McCollum.
[02:17:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you man these out McCollum?
[02:17:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick here.
[02:17:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick are you here?
[02:17:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick?
[02:17:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Rick?
[02:17:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Now let me...
[02:17:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh we have to go through the credits now too.
[02:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We're big fans of billing order.
[02:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: That is a big thing.
[02:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah we have billing order.
[02:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Trisha Bigger.
[02:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Trisha Bigger.
[02:17:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Turn off the subtitles Ben they are not helping.
[02:17:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah turn off the subtitles Ben.
[02:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: What the hell is this?
[02:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[02:17:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Casting by Christine King.
[02:17:58] [SPEAKER_05]: The subtitles only have one credit they may less well.
[02:18:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben Burr killed it.
[02:18:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Ben Burr killed it on this one.
[02:18:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It sounds great John Williams.
[02:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: John Williams did a great job.
[02:18:06] Yeah.
[02:18:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah there you go.
[02:18:08] [SPEAKER_02]: So you got your first build.
[02:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Well and then Portman and then...
[02:18:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah everyone if you like them clap for them.
[02:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Portman's getting nothing.
[02:18:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Or your silence can speak volumes.
[02:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: No I don't know.
[02:18:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Christian's next third.
[02:18:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Respectful claps.
[02:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Respectful silence.
[02:18:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah McDermott's fourth.
[02:18:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright alright.
[02:18:23] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Samjack.
[02:18:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And Frank Oz is Yoda.
[02:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[02:18:29] And Frank Oz.
[02:18:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Hostor Smith.
[02:18:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And Chewbacca.
[02:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Chewbacca gets weirdly out of that fast.
[02:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Oliver Fort Davies who's Sio Bibbel.
[02:18:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Silas Carson that's Newt Gunray.
[02:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: With Samuel Jackson.
[02:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly and Christopher Lee as Count Dooku.
[02:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah honestly.
[02:18:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's a good guy.
[02:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[02:18:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't make, honestly I couldn't make these news of that Kenny Baker.
[02:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy in the R2.
[02:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: He's in the R2.
[02:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the little guy.
[02:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the little guy.
[02:18:59] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the one character we couldn't figure out how to, I mean like you gotta have
[02:19:02] [SPEAKER_05]: him in there.
[02:19:03] [SPEAKER_03]: We've never been able to really judge his performance.
[02:19:05] [SPEAKER_05]: How long was he in the development of that character?
[02:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very crucial.
[02:19:08] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the one thing where hopefully someday you'll be able to make an R2 performance
[02:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: in a whole movie completely without him inside.
[02:19:16] [SPEAKER_02]: But right now you've been there.
[02:19:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Right now there's always at least one shot where you're like gotta get him in there.
[02:19:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Get in there.
[02:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Well George it sounds like this is the last Star Wars movie that you're ever going to
[02:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: make.
[02:19:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean probably.
[02:19:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean I've said publicly that I'm gonna make more movies but I'm not
[02:19:29] [SPEAKER_05]: gonna release them.
[02:19:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Jet Lucas.
[02:19:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I did say that in an interview I said that.
[02:19:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You had to be experimental movies.
[02:19:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna make movies and not release them.
[02:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Moussey McCollum.
[02:19:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that Rick McCollum's child?
[02:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You bet.
[02:19:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Moussey, that's a weird name.
[02:19:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Moussey is a great name.
[02:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: She is Moussey.
[02:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: If you still had control over the Star Wars franchise what would you make next George?
[02:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: What would I make?
[02:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[02:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh I almost don't even like thinking about that question but like I probably make one
[02:19:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that was, I would probably make one that was even funnier than anything I've done
[02:20:00] [SPEAKER_05]: before.
[02:20:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So you think comedy that's the turn to take?
[02:20:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I still thought it would be a space adventure but like I do like a Bib Fortuna movie.
[02:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know who that is.
[02:20:10] [SPEAKER_02]: No, oh yeah we don't know who that is.
[02:20:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah you don't know who that is.
[02:20:12] [SPEAKER_02]: No no he's in Spantomenus.
[02:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: He is.
[02:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah he's John with the Hutz secretary.
[02:20:16] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a very very peripheral character.
[02:20:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Well he's a big important character.
[02:20:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Three movies from now.
[02:20:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[02:20:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright I'm looking forward to that.
[02:20:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Make a movie about him.
[02:20:25] [SPEAKER_05]: He's always getting his things stuck and stuff.
[02:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a sort of tail.
[02:20:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I would make a Jar Jar Bib movie.
[02:20:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Where Jar Jar and Bib go on the road.
[02:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Midnight Run where like Bib is very serious and Jar Jar keeps trying to get a rise out of him.
[02:20:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Bib's like Jar Jar you're a real doodoo head.
[02:20:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And Jar Jar's like Misa, Misa wanna be friends.
[02:20:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay well probably good that you got the billion dollars instead.
[02:20:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it was a toss up between taking the billion dollars and making that movie.
[02:20:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to ask you one last time.
[02:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[02:20:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have any regrets?
[02:21:00] [SPEAKER_10]: Nope.
[02:21:01] [SPEAKER_10]: What do you feel any regrets?
[02:21:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin you gotta, someone's bothering you.
[02:21:08] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think I should regret?
[02:21:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I think these movies are all hugely popular movies.
[02:21:13] [SPEAKER_05]: There'd be any negativity that happened because of internet commenters and the reddit crowd.
[02:21:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Twitter.
[02:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Things like that.
[02:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Have been wiped away in the past two weeks with a flurry of online support for the prequels.
[02:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: One AV club article for you negates 15 years.
[02:21:31] [SPEAKER_05]: No, last week there were multiple articles last week.
[02:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I think there were just two.
[02:21:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Even articles that weren't about the prequels would drop in little references about how things like their,
[02:21:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm paraphrasing about like these are great movies.
[02:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't it more like they're not so bad?
[02:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't that kind of the argument?
[02:21:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because when you're negotiating you always don't take your exact stance.
[02:21:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You work towards it.
[02:21:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you this defensive?
[02:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin, I'm not.
[02:21:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're the product of a wounded man.
[02:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I just want you to open up and tell me that you feel.
[02:21:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Griffin.
[02:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna ask you to tell me that you're sad or you regret anything.
[02:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I want you to tell me that you're a human being with emotions, George.
[02:22:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Griffin, I'm not a grown man with a little bag of toys that I already have.
[02:22:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright?
[02:22:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a billionaire who did everything I wanted.
[02:22:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Griffin, Griffin.
[02:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: This is the last time we're gonna talk about these prequels.
[02:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: He's raising a good point.
[02:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: He controlled me.
[02:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, he's got you.
[02:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: This is exactly where he wanted me the entire time.
[02:22:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He wanted me here angry on stage, doing his bidding, yelling with a bag of toys.
[02:22:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's gonna be okay, Griffin.
[02:22:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Because we're gonna do a new hope.
[02:22:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I do like they have that Chewbacca Furby.
[02:22:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you seen that?
[02:22:35] [SPEAKER_03]: No, there's a Chewbacca Furby.
[02:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone seen that?
[02:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The target?
[02:22:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This guy's nodding.
[02:22:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You've seen it?
[02:22:43] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a Chewbacca Furby.
[02:22:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So like hope is not lost.
[02:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't have anything to do with that, but I looked, that's one thing I looked at and thought nice.
[02:22:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a big move.
[02:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: You're happy about that?
[02:22:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Chewbacca Furby.
[02:22:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The legacy continues.
[02:22:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I did try some Go-Gur, the other night there was some Star Wars Go-Gur,
[02:22:59] [SPEAKER_05]: the idea for the new movie, it tasted pretty good.
[02:23:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And they make it look like a lightsaber on the packet.
[02:23:03] [SPEAKER_05]: That's smart.
[02:23:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Special thanks to Nokia and Dell.
[02:23:09] [SPEAKER_02]: George, I...
[02:23:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Sad as the last box one.
[02:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Forget George.
[02:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No, you know what I'm gonna say?
[02:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: You're sorry and you like these movies?
[02:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You have given us 36 episodes of podcasts.
[02:23:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
[02:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean few movies could sustain this much.
[02:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean look, it's been ups and it's been downs,
[02:23:26] [SPEAKER_03]: but I guess at the end of the day I have to say thank you George.
[02:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks George.
[02:23:29] [SPEAKER_05]: May that force me with you.
[02:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, thanks George.
[02:23:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Griffin.
[02:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you David.
[02:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[02:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And above all else a big thanks to producer Ben.
[02:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
[02:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Ben do sir.
[02:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's his desktop for you right now.
[02:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[02:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of stuff.
[02:23:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Hooker loves what?
[02:23:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Hooker loves Special Edition.
[02:23:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Baby Rolled dummy, what's that?
[02:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Baby Bomb.
[02:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, you unplugged it.
[02:23:57] [SPEAKER_05]: The FBI is on their way.
[02:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
[02:24:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that the movie Strange Magic
[02:24:03] [SPEAKER_05]: is available on DVD.
[02:24:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And high definition download you can buy it on iTunes.
[02:24:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a lot of fun.
[02:24:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And you still host a talk show at the Upright Systems Brigade Theater.
[02:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You do.
[02:24:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Every month.
[02:24:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I do do that but I mean Strange Magic is what I'm here to promote.
[02:24:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the main thing.
[02:24:16] [SPEAKER_03]: This is part of your tour, your promotional tour.
[02:24:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a record breaker right?
[02:24:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Box Office Record Breaker.
[02:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Box Office Records.
[02:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[02:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the lowest grossing animated film to be released on 3,000 screens.
[02:24:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[02:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay everyone like the movie?
[02:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I do want to ask.
[02:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone like the movie?
[02:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: George this is not, we don't have time to get answers from everybody.
[02:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing to take a question and answer about how much.
[02:24:38] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing a quet these people have been here for over two hours.
[02:24:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing a question and answer.
[02:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't see anyone getting up, I don't see anyone leaving.
[02:24:44] [SPEAKER_05]: These people are so, everyone's wearing their jackets.
[02:24:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me ask this producer Ben is it possible to start it up again?
[02:24:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely not.
[02:24:51] [SPEAKER_05]: We're out of here.
[02:24:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much George Lucas.
[02:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all for coming out.
[02:24:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks guys.
[02:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Just standing on my mic.
[02:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Two weeks from now with a new podcast.
[02:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all for listening.




