We Bought a Zoo

[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, Blank Check with Griffin and David, don't know what to say or to expect

[00:00:13] All you need to know is that the name of the show is Blank Check

[00:00:19] You know, sometimes all you need is 20 seconds of insane podcasting

[00:00:26] Just literally 20 seconds of just embarrassing podcasting and I promise you something podcast will come out of it

[00:00:33] Oh my god

[00:00:35] Hey everybody, my name is Griffin Newman

[00:00:38] I'm David Sims

[00:00:40] Welcome to Blank Check

[00:00:42] This is a podcast in which David and I

[00:00:45] A film critic and cultural writer

[00:00:49] That's me

[00:00:50] And an actor, comedian respectively

[00:00:52] I was gonna say respectively so that the positions were clear

[00:00:55] Analyze the filmographies of important directors

[00:01:00] Who make big creative projects

[00:01:04] Yeah, sometimes

[00:01:05] That work or don't

[00:01:06] Yeah, sometimes they got a big success early on

[00:01:08] They get a so-called Blank Check to cash in on crazy passion projects

[00:01:13] Premise established

[00:01:14] Premise established

[00:01:15] We do mini-series, we tackle different directors and we're complete as we go through the whole filmography

[00:01:20] And right now we are talking about one Cameron Crow

[00:01:24] This mini-series is titled We Podicast

[00:01:27] Yes

[00:01:28] And we have come to the moment that everyone's been waiting for

[00:01:31] The titular episode of We Podicast

[00:01:34] We're gonna talk about the 2011

[00:01:39] Comedy drama

[00:01:40] Talky

[00:01:41] We bought a zoo

[00:01:44] Yes

[00:01:45] And to join us in talking about that film is no guest

[00:01:49] But the third member of our triangle

[00:01:54] Now David, of course you and I are hashtag the two friends

[00:01:56] That is correct

[00:01:57] Thank you for mentioning that up at the top

[00:02:00] Because we're good friends and we host a podcast together

[00:02:02] And that is our hook

[00:02:04] And there's two of us

[00:02:05] There are two of us

[00:02:06] But there's a third man

[00:02:09] Playing the zither in the background

[00:02:11] Yep

[00:02:12] Harry Lyme himself

[00:02:13] Talking about cougou clocks

[00:02:15] Is that what he talks about?

[00:02:16] Yeah, something like that

[00:02:17] He produces this show

[00:02:20] Yeah

[00:02:21] That's true

[00:02:22] Producer Ben

[00:02:23] I mean that's

[00:02:24] Yeah of course you're gonna call him producer Ben

[00:02:27] Because he's the producer but he's also the pro-doer

[00:02:29] He's also the Ben do-ser

[00:02:30] He's the poet laureate

[00:02:32] Yeah you remember what to do

[00:02:34] We've cut one name out of this

[00:02:36] Mr. Hosidou

[00:02:38] Nice

[00:02:39] So this was suggested by listener and friend of the show

[00:02:42] Patrick Cottner

[00:02:43] Walks the Walk Cottner

[00:02:45] Who suggested we combine the haze

[00:02:48] And Mr. Positive into Mr. Hosidou

[00:02:50] There was a lot of hand wringing

[00:02:51] I guess for the sake of

[00:02:54] Time expediency

[00:02:56] Which so far is working out grandly

[00:02:58] And I plan to explain this

[00:03:00] Every episode from here on out

[00:03:02] We are now going with Mr. Hosidou

[00:03:04] He's also birthday Benny

[00:03:05] He's also the tiebreaker

[00:03:06] He's the peeper

[00:03:08] He's the fuckmaster

[00:03:09] He is not Professor Crispy

[00:03:11] Nope, not yet

[00:03:12] You can wish him a hello fennel

[00:03:14] If you see him on the streets

[00:03:16] Yes

[00:03:17] Of New York

[00:03:19] And I wanna

[00:03:20] Concrete jungle where bends are made of

[00:03:22] Absolutely not

[00:03:23] No

[00:03:24] And he has some podcast specific

[00:03:26] Names reflecting our history

[00:03:29] And culture and society in this podcast

[00:03:33] Producer Ben Kenobi

[00:03:35] Kylo Ben

[00:03:36] Ben Knight Shyamalan

[00:03:38] Ben Sate

[00:03:39] Now my friend Dan Dodario

[00:03:42] Television critic for Time Magazine

[00:03:45] Recently suggested say Benny thing

[00:03:48] As Cameron Crow

[00:03:50] Which it's like he messages it to me

[00:03:53] And I'm just like how do we not see it

[00:03:55] And he came up with the last one too right

[00:03:57] Did he come up with Ben Sate?

[00:03:58] I don't think I can't remember who came up with Ben Sate

[00:04:00] And that's unfortunately lost to the sands of time

[00:04:02] Forever, we can never figure that out

[00:04:04] But I feel like there were a couple other contenders

[00:04:06] We're just getting close to the end of our mini series

[00:04:08] We're seeing the sunset

[00:04:10] Yes

[00:04:11] I mean you had me at hello fennel

[00:04:13] I feel like it's more of a phrase than it is

[00:04:15] Yeah, I don't think that can linger

[00:04:17] Yeah

[00:04:18] Say Benny thing

[00:04:19] Benny Lane was thrown at how

[00:04:21] Benny Lane is good

[00:04:22] Benny Lane is good

[00:04:23] Here's the one thing I don't like about Benny Lane

[00:04:25] There's obviously so much association with the Beatles there

[00:04:27] And it might not sound like it's a proprietary

[00:04:29] It's not

[00:04:30] To the mini series

[00:04:31] And it's a real person's name too

[00:04:33] Which he borrowed

[00:04:34] And we want to show respect

[00:04:35] Yes, we're gesturing

[00:04:36] We're gesturing

[00:04:37] To the air conditioning system of this studio

[00:04:39] Yeah, ESPCA offices which are on the 10th floor of the building

[00:04:42] Is that who's up there?

[00:04:43] I think they're actually on the 8th floor

[00:04:45] Who's on 10?

[00:04:47] Ben, who's on 10?

[00:04:48] Who's on first Ben?

[00:04:49] Ben 10?

[00:04:50] What is that?

[00:04:51] Who's on first?

[00:04:52] Wait a second, wait a second

[00:04:53] David

[00:04:54] 4 million

[00:04:56] Comedy points

[00:04:57] Okay, alright

[00:04:59] 2 Ab and Costello, not to you

[00:05:00] 4 million County points

[00:05:01] Good job, Ab and Costello

[00:05:02] You remember that Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip episode?

[00:05:05] You're gonna listen to this

[00:05:06] And you're gonna laugh and laugh

[00:05:08] Where Nate Cordray tells his parents

[00:05:10] Who's on first

[00:05:11] What is he? A time traveler?

[00:05:13] Can we do an entire mini series

[00:05:15] Just on that scene

[00:05:18] From Studio 60

[00:05:20] Have you ever seen Studio 60

[00:05:21] On the Sunset Strip then?

[00:05:23] I have not

[00:05:24] Okay, so it was a fucking

[00:05:26] Aaron Sorkin

[00:05:27] It was a weighty drama about the production of SNL

[00:05:29] Essentially

[00:05:30] But then in episode 2

[00:05:31] They established that SNL exists

[00:05:32] So they're mad TV

[00:05:34] This was the same year as 30 Rock

[00:05:36] We came out the same year on the same network

[00:05:38] On NBC

[00:05:39] And they were like

[00:05:40] I can't believe NBC would pick up

[00:05:41] Two fictionalized SNL shows

[00:05:42] And everyone was like

[00:05:43] But you know

[00:05:44] The Sorkin one's probably gonna last

[00:05:45] And the Tina Fey one won't last

[00:05:47] That's a favor

[00:05:48] They're doing that as a favor

[00:05:49] And it's not gonna last

[00:05:50] And then of course Tina Fey wins

[00:05:51] Like three comedy series

[00:05:52] Emmys in a Row

[00:05:53] And Studio 60's canceled after one season

[00:05:55] So I'm just side tracking before you get on to the thing

[00:05:57] But I have to tell this story

[00:05:58] Oh no

[00:05:59] I did a summer program at

[00:06:01] Like NYU at Tisch

[00:06:02] Right?

[00:06:03] When I was in high school

[00:06:04] You've talked about it before

[00:06:06] In this film program

[00:06:07] Right, yes

[00:06:08] Yes, how they locked us in

[00:06:09] Yeah, you've talked about it before

[00:06:10] Right

[00:06:11] And listener friend of the show

[00:06:13] Chris Cookson pointed out

[00:06:15] That we actually did see like

[00:06:16] Ten movies as a group that summer

[00:06:18] And I was wrong when I said

[00:06:19] We only saw one

[00:06:20] Makes sense

[00:06:21] You are a liar and a fabulous

[00:06:22] That is true

[00:06:23] I am the Donald Trump of this podcast for a reason

[00:06:25] And can I say something else?

[00:06:27] This podcast does not endorse Donald Trump

[00:06:29] It doesn't we've said before

[00:06:30] Or his antics

[00:06:31] We'll say it again

[00:06:32] Don't vote Trump

[00:06:34] You pointed out that Ben earned

[00:06:36] Those fucking nicknames by doing miniseries

[00:06:38] After miniseries, right?

[00:06:40] If Donald Trump comes up here

[00:06:41] And asks us to hand him

[00:06:43] A fucking miniseries nickname

[00:06:45] Like it's a god damn purple heart

[00:06:47] Oh, so a lot easier this way

[00:06:49] Fuck you Donald Trump

[00:06:50] Is he James Gandolfini?

[00:06:52] Come on, come on

[00:06:54] I'm with the wild things, y'all

[00:06:58] Off the rails, this is terrible

[00:07:00] Donald Trump, you wanna fucking

[00:07:02] You wanna fucking get a nickname

[00:07:03] You gotta come in, you gotta work

[00:07:04] You gotta hit the streets

[00:07:05] Everything gotta work on the ground floor

[00:07:06] I have a serious question for you

[00:07:08] If Donald Trump wanted to be on this podcast

[00:07:09] Would you let it

[00:07:10] 100%

[00:07:11] Okay so yours craving is Nord Michaels

[00:07:13] No no no, in all seriousness

[00:07:14] I would not

[00:07:15] I would not

[00:07:16] I don't respect his opinions

[00:07:17] What do I want to hear him

[00:07:18] Fucking say about aloha

[00:07:20] It's fair

[00:07:21] You know, I watched a while back

[00:07:23] This weird clip of him on Letterman

[00:07:25] In the 90s, in the late 90s

[00:07:28] Because he's in the film celebrity

[00:07:30] The Woody Allen film for like half a second

[00:07:32] And he's talking about the film

[00:07:34] And he's like it's very good

[00:07:36] Like he's trying to sort of

[00:07:37] And it's obvious he hasn't watched it

[00:07:39] He maybe saw his scene

[00:07:41] And then he starts bragging about

[00:07:43] How Leonardo DiCaprio is like an incredible actor

[00:07:45] It's just weird

[00:07:46] What a weird guy

[00:07:47] Do you think he watches movies?

[00:07:48] What does he do?

[00:07:49] I don't think so

[00:07:50] Although he was very angry about

[00:07:52] These new ghostbusters

[00:07:54] Was he angry about that?

[00:07:56] He was one of the first people to go

[00:07:58] Oh yeah, I know, he has the mind

[00:08:00] They're talking about recasting

[00:08:02] Yeah, and Jones and now the ghostbusters

[00:08:04] You're ladies, what's going on here in America

[00:08:06] You know

[00:08:07] Yeah, he's sound

[00:08:08] That's not even a good James Gandalfini

[00:08:10] No, now I'm trying to just do a whole

[00:08:12] Bad thing

[00:08:13] I feel like I'm doing a bad impression

[00:08:15] Of Paul up Tompkins, bad impression

[00:08:17] Of cake boss

[00:08:19] I'm James Gandalfini

[00:08:21] I've got a pretty good Bob Duka

[00:08:23] Let me hear your Bob Duka

[00:08:25] She can't

[00:08:28] Six glorious months

[00:08:31] It's not perfect

[00:08:32] It's not perfect

[00:08:33] I've been six glorious months

[00:08:35] Not terrible

[00:08:36] Anyway, I was doing it

[00:08:38] My roommate, ex-ruman now

[00:08:40] Recently discovered Bob Duka

[00:08:42] So I've been batting around a lot of Bob Duka lines

[00:08:44] Can I get back to important matters here?

[00:08:45] Kevin Fack

[00:08:46] I can't quite get it

[00:08:48] Kevin, yes

[00:08:49] When I was in this NYU summer program

[00:08:51] Yeah

[00:08:53] They had guest speakers

[00:08:55] Who were trying to let us know as 15 year olds

[00:08:57] What the film industry was going to be like

[00:08:59] And who was your guest speaker?

[00:09:00] It was

[00:09:01] I don't remember his name

[00:09:03] But he was a gentleman who worked in

[00:09:05] Programming for HBO

[00:09:07] Okay

[00:09:08] This is so off the road

[00:09:09] And usually there were guest lectures

[00:09:10] But this is such a good story

[00:09:11] I have to share

[00:09:12] Just finish it

[00:09:13] Finish the story

[00:09:14] He said, look, I know most people come here

[00:09:15] And they do a whole lecture first

[00:09:16] I just want to show you something

[00:09:18] And then we're going to talk about it afterwards

[00:09:20] This is a pilot episode

[00:09:22] It hasn't premiered yet

[00:09:24] It's going to premiere in three months

[00:09:26] Of Aaron Sorkin's new show

[00:09:28] Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

[00:09:29] And a bunch of us turned to each other and went

[00:09:31] Oh my God

[00:09:32] Because this was like the most hyped pilot

[00:09:33] Of course, he was the West Wing guy

[00:09:34] And the pilot, the buzz was off the charts

[00:09:36] Sure

[00:09:37] Right?

[00:09:38] And we went, oh my God

[00:09:39] Holy shit

[00:09:40] Like let's just start up

[00:09:41] We go, oh my God

[00:09:42] We're getting right there

[00:09:43] We watch it

[00:09:44] Everyone applauds at the end

[00:09:45] Yeah

[00:09:46] Because the pilot was pretty strong

[00:09:47] He was okay although now if you go back and watch it

[00:09:49] You see all the problems

[00:09:51] You can see the signs

[00:09:52] But it does still kind of work as an hour of television

[00:09:54] It basically works

[00:09:55] And it's got some really good scenes

[00:09:56] And the performances are really good

[00:09:58] And he goes, okay

[00:09:59] So now that you've seen that

[00:10:00] Here's the point of my lecture

[00:10:02] My question is

[00:10:03] What do you possibly program

[00:10:05] Against Studio 60 at the Sunset Strip?

[00:10:07] Uh-huh

[00:10:08] And the thesis of his lecture was

[00:10:10] Any show that goes up against this

[00:10:12] It's like Kevin Durant joining the Warriors this year

[00:10:15] Like everyone's just like, you know what

[00:10:16] Let's take the year off

[00:10:17] Let's take that off

[00:10:18] He said no one is not going to want to watch this

[00:10:20] Yeah

[00:10:21] It has a ton of beloved stars

[00:10:22] It's an interesting subject matter

[00:10:23] It's going to work for men and women equally

[00:10:25] It's political

[00:10:26] Yeah, I know

[00:10:27] It's artistic

[00:10:28] I mean I just

[00:10:29] It's insane to think back

[00:10:30] He was like, this is a juggernaut

[00:10:32] Yeah

[00:10:33] I want you as a creative exercise

[00:10:34] To think what do I

[00:10:35] Programming an HBO

[00:10:37] What could I possibly put on a Monday night

[00:10:39] Against this

[00:10:40] And that was the entire lecture was

[00:10:42] People suggesting things

[00:10:43] Okay

[00:10:44] Is that the end of your story?

[00:10:45] It's a different time back then

[00:10:46] Yeah, it was a different time

[00:10:47] 2006

[00:10:48] Yeah

[00:10:49] Anyway, Ben Hosley is here with us today

[00:10:51] Hey, man

[00:10:52] Let me tell you guys

[00:10:53] What's our running time right now, Benny?

[00:10:55] 45 minutes?

[00:10:56] Uh, well, about 10

[00:10:58] Okay, good, okay

[00:10:59] But uh, hey, you know

[00:11:01] Guys, I'd buy a zoo

[00:11:03] Hey

[00:11:04] I'd buy a zoo

[00:11:05] Would you?

[00:11:06] Yeah

[00:11:07] I would too

[00:11:08] I would too

[00:11:09] And uh

[00:11:11] I was trying to think of a more clever transition

[00:11:13] To even bridge it

[00:11:14] But no, let's just talk about this one

[00:11:16] The year was 2011

[00:11:17] Okay

[00:11:18] Yeah

[00:11:19] Cameron Crow has been off the map

[00:11:22] For years

[00:11:25] Um, when does uh, Elizabeth Town come out

[00:11:28] 05 or 06?

[00:11:29] I believe 05

[00:11:30] Am I wrong about that?

[00:11:31] Was it 06?

[00:11:32] Yeah, no, 05

[00:11:33] 05

[00:11:34] So in between Elizabeth Town

[00:11:35] And we bought a zoo

[00:11:37] He had made two music documentaries

[00:11:39] Uh

[00:11:40] One about Pearl Jam

[00:11:41] Yes, Pearl Jam 20

[00:11:42] And then The Union

[00:11:44] Which is about Elton John Leon Russell, I believe

[00:11:46] That sounds right

[00:11:47] Yes

[00:11:48] Uh, we're debating whether or not to cover those

[00:11:50] Because we're

[00:11:51] We're not gonna cover those

[00:11:52] They had both, we're not

[00:11:53] In the name of not hemorrhaging listeners

[00:11:55] I think that's the big thing

[00:11:57] Yeah, anyway

[00:11:58] But they both came out

[00:11:59] Honestly, they both came out in 2011

[00:12:00] So yeah, he'd been pretty quiet

[00:12:02] Yes

[00:12:03] I feel like he'd been like

[00:12:05] Writing like liner notes for like album reissues

[00:12:08] A lot of that

[00:12:09] And kind of like hanging out

[00:12:10] He started his own

[00:12:11] I don't know if they did a bunch of releases

[00:12:13] But I know he started his website The Uncool

[00:12:15] And they started posting a lot of stuff on there

[00:12:16] And he started blogging a lot

[00:12:17] Writing things for other releases

[00:12:19] And stuff like that

[00:12:20] He also, uh

[00:12:21] I know he released

[00:12:22] Because I bought it

[00:12:23] Uh, like a vinyl pressing

[00:12:25] Of the Harold and Maude soundtrack

[00:12:26] Which had never been released in a form before

[00:12:28] Interesting

[00:12:29] Cool

[00:12:30] Because most of that soundtrack is

[00:12:31] Cat Stevens songs

[00:12:32] That were on different albums

[00:12:33] They never bothered to release

[00:12:34] A combined soundtrack

[00:12:35] Right

[00:12:36] And I have this like beautiful

[00:12:37] Like it was like my Christmas present

[00:12:39] This year

[00:12:40] And it's like beautiful

[00:12:41] Like clearly designed and created by

[00:12:43] A huge fan

[00:12:44] And this is topical because

[00:12:46] He's a good fan

[00:12:47] He's a good fan

[00:12:48] But that's what he was sort of doing

[00:12:49] Topical because he uses

[00:12:51] Um

[00:12:52] Oh Jesus

[00:12:53] Which fucking cat Stevens song does he use

[00:12:54] In this movie

[00:12:55] I don't know

[00:12:56] Down down down

[00:12:57] Down down down

[00:12:58] Down down down

[00:12:59] There it is

[00:13:00] That's the one

[00:13:01] Uh

[00:13:02] You're there

[00:13:03] You're there

[00:13:04] What can I remember the name of that song?

[00:13:05] I don't know

[00:13:06] Orcare

[00:13:07] I keep on thinking it's the fight

[00:13:08] Don't think twice

[00:13:09] Which is the Mike Perbiglia movie

[00:13:10] Don't think twice

[00:13:12] Mike Perbiglia

[00:13:13] Can you please get to your point

[00:13:14] This is terrible

[00:13:15] This is the worst thing that's ever happened

[00:13:17] That's what he was doing

[00:13:18] He was releasing vinyl soundtracks

[00:13:19] And writing liner notes

[00:13:20] Well the other thing we should know

[00:13:21] Yes

[00:13:22] Is that he was working on a film

[00:13:23] Called Deep Tiki

[00:13:25] Deep Tiki

[00:13:26] And it was plagued with

[00:13:28] Production problems or script problems

[00:13:29] Or like it never was getting off

[00:13:31] The ground

[00:13:32] But at one point was a month away

[00:13:33] From filming

[00:13:34] It was this thing

[00:13:35] That it was like

[00:13:36] Instiller and Reese Witherspoon

[00:13:37] Yeah

[00:13:38] And it just started to start

[00:13:39] And it kept falling apart

[00:13:41] Yeah

[00:13:42] It's kind of rude in producing

[00:13:43] Right

[00:13:44] And so he decided to pick up this

[00:13:47] Like based on a true story movie

[00:13:49] Well this is what I've heard

[00:13:51] Okay

[00:13:52] Deep Tiki was a passion project

[00:13:54] I think he took a while to lick his wounds

[00:13:56] Because clearly

[00:13:57] Deep Tiki of course eventually becomes a loha

[00:13:58] Yes

[00:13:59] Just a little bit

[00:14:00] Yes

[00:14:01] Um

[00:14:02] You watch Elizabeth Town

[00:14:03] And clearly that is a movie

[00:14:04] By a man who feels very wounded

[00:14:06] By the critical rejection of

[00:14:08] Of Elizabeth Town

[00:14:09] Of vanilla sky

[00:14:10] Oh sure

[00:14:11] Right

[00:14:12] Well yes

[00:14:13] I think Elizabeth Town

[00:14:14] Is a guy feeling his first failure

[00:14:15] Feeling rejection from critics

[00:14:17] But also obviously

[00:14:18] Seemingly turning over

[00:14:19] The loss of his

[00:14:20] Right

[00:14:21] His dad

[00:14:22] Yes both

[00:14:23] But also

[00:14:24] Vanilla Sky made a ton of money

[00:14:25] And then you have Elizabeth Town

[00:14:26] Which loses a ton of money

[00:14:27] And is hated

[00:14:28] It's bombed by any metric

[00:14:29] Yeah

[00:14:30] I'm gonna go out on a limb here

[00:14:31] And I know you don't like to psychoanalyze

[00:14:32] The filmmakers too much

[00:14:33] With things that aren't

[00:14:35] You know concrete

[00:14:36] No no but go ahead

[00:14:37] I have a feeling that Kevin Kroes

[00:14:38] Is a pretty sensitive guy

[00:14:39] Yeah he seems a little sensitive

[00:14:41] Right

[00:14:42] I say this as a fellow softy

[00:14:43] Seems like a sensitive guy

[00:14:45] I think those two movies back to back

[00:14:46] Hit him pretty hard

[00:14:48] I think he took a while to lick his wounds

[00:14:49] I think he took a while to write

[00:14:51] Deep Tiki

[00:14:52] And about you know

[00:14:53] 2008-2009 maybe

[00:14:55] You know they're trying to get that off the ground

[00:14:56] And for a while it's not going

[00:14:57] And I think he was pretty wounded

[00:14:58] And he felt like he was kind of a reject

[00:14:59] He goes through a divorce around this time too

[00:15:00] Right

[00:15:01] So I think he's kind of a

[00:15:02] A bit of a

[00:15:04] And he's re-evaluating everything

[00:15:05] What I hear is that Tom Cruise

[00:15:08] Who of course has been a big champion

[00:15:09] Through his career

[00:15:10] Bloody of Cameron

[00:15:11] Right

[00:15:12] And we didn't mention this

[00:15:13] Pretty in two of his movies

[00:15:14] Produced Elizabeth's

[00:15:15] No we did mention it

[00:15:16] We did mention it

[00:15:17] Okay

[00:15:18] Kind of had like a

[00:15:20] I don't know

[00:15:21] Yeah

[00:15:22] I don't want to say

[00:15:23] An intervention

[00:15:24] But was like dude

[00:15:25] You need to make a movie again

[00:15:26] Like you need to get back from the horse

[00:15:27] You gotta get something out of the movie

[00:15:28] You gotta get something out of the movie

[00:15:29] You gotta get something out of the movie

[00:15:30] Sure

[00:15:31] Like you need to get back from the horse

[00:15:32] You gotta get something out there

[00:15:33] You've been too long

[00:15:34] And I have heard that apparently

[00:15:35] Cruise called

[00:15:36] No I can't do it

[00:15:37] Cruise called in a lot of favors

[00:15:38] And like went to studios

[00:15:39] And said like

[00:15:40] Please hire Cameron Crow

[00:15:42] Alright that

[00:15:43] Is that true?

[00:15:44] That sounds crazy

[00:15:45] I think if you Google that

[00:15:46] You can find that

[00:15:47] More mediocre filmmakers

[00:15:48] Have less trouble making a movie

[00:15:49] Than Cameron Crow

[00:15:50] I think it was more

[00:15:51] That Cameron Crow didn't want

[00:15:52] To put himself out there

[00:15:53] Well

[00:15:54] And so this thing that happened

[00:15:55] Was Fox had this property

[00:15:56] We bought a zoo

[00:15:57] They had attached

[00:15:58] Aline Brush McKenna

[00:15:59] The writer of Devil Wears Prada

[00:16:00] Yes

[00:16:01] To adapt it

[00:16:02] And the script never totally worked

[00:16:03] Right

[00:16:04] But I guess they had a lot of belief

[00:16:06] In this being a good

[00:16:08] Starting point for a family dramedy

[00:16:10] Right

[00:16:11] Yeah sure

[00:16:12] And I hear that you know

[00:16:13] And it's based on this true story

[00:16:14] Or would you believe it

[00:16:15] Journalist

[00:16:16] Buys a zoo

[00:16:17] Boy oh boy

[00:16:18] Bought that zoo

[00:16:19] I think

[00:16:20] Cruise goes around

[00:16:21] And says to people like

[00:16:22] Hey

[00:16:23] I'm trying to get Cameron Crow

[00:16:24] To do something

[00:16:25] And someone at Fox goes

[00:16:26] This might be interesting to see

[00:16:27] If he had a take on rewriting this

[00:16:29] Yeah and also

[00:16:30] It basically fits his sensibility

[00:16:32] In that it's a pretty gentle movie

[00:16:34] Like it's not you know

[00:16:35] An action epic or whatever

[00:16:36] But what I've heard is that

[00:16:37] I mean he has credited Tom Cruise

[00:16:39] Thanking him for getting him back

[00:16:40] Into making movies

[00:16:41] And for setting

[00:16:42] We bought a zoo up

[00:16:43] In a very unofficial early capacity

[00:16:45] We bought a zoo

[00:16:46] But also

[00:16:47] You could say that he bought a zoo

[00:16:48] He bought a zoo

[00:16:49] After Fox bought the rights to

[00:16:50] We bought a zoo

[00:16:51] They should make a film about

[00:16:52] The making of We Bought a Zoo

[00:16:53] We bought We Bought a Zoo

[00:16:54] Yes

[00:16:55] Yeah that'd be great

[00:16:56] It's a film about creative executives

[00:16:58] My point is that Cameron Crow didn't go like

[00:17:02] What am I going to adapt next

[00:17:03] We bought a zoo

[00:17:04] It was kind of thrown at him

[00:17:05] Like do you want to take a look at this

[00:17:06] And see if you have something

[00:17:07] He ran through his typewriter

[00:17:09] And he went

[00:17:10] Okay I think I'd make this

[00:17:12] I think they even

[00:17:13] At first were just like

[00:17:14] Do you want to try rewriting this

[00:17:15] And see if you'd want to direct it

[00:17:16] But it's the only one of his properties

[00:17:19] That he didn't really like

[00:17:20] Develop from the ground up

[00:17:22] You know

[00:17:23] Vanilla Sky was obviously adapted

[00:17:25] But he was there from square one

[00:17:27] This was him taking over a project

[00:17:28] And it wasn't something he like

[00:17:29] Sawed out

[00:17:30] Well if I can elaborate on that also

[00:17:33] He makes Vanilla Sky

[00:17:35] I'm sorry Vanilla Sky

[00:17:36] We've been messing up all that so

[00:17:38] He makes Vanilla Sky

[00:17:39] Vanilla Sky

[00:17:40] And that's you know

[00:17:42] That's a Tom Cruise passion project

[00:17:43] Well it's a Cameron Crow passion project

[00:17:45] But you know that has

[00:17:46] It's a TCPP

[00:17:47] Yeah

[00:17:48] Exactly and then he makes

[00:17:49] And a CCPP

[00:17:50] And then in a list

[00:17:51] It's a TCCCPP

[00:17:52] I'm going to leave

[00:17:53] I'm going to leave

[00:17:54] I'm going to leave

[00:17:55] And then in a list of the town he makes like

[00:17:56] The most Cameron Crow movie ever

[00:17:59] Right it's just like

[00:18:00] He's laying it all out there

[00:18:01] It's this like big wounded open heart

[00:18:04] Of a movie with like no real plot

[00:18:06] And it's just fucking nonsense

[00:18:08] So with we bought his

[00:18:09] He's like

[00:18:10] It was a plot, we made a shoe

[00:18:12] Oh my god

[00:18:13] And then we bought his

[00:18:14] He's like literally

[00:18:15] I would say doing the other thing

[00:18:17] No one comedy point

[00:18:19] No you only you can give a comedy point

[00:18:21] I liked it

[00:18:22] Two comedy points

[00:18:23] Woo

[00:18:25] Okay I'm sorry yes

[00:18:27] And then with we bought his

[00:18:28] He's doing the opposite thing

[00:18:29] Where it's like okay okay

[00:18:30] Forget it

[00:18:31] I won't make a movie that's like

[00:18:32] The inside of my brain

[00:18:34] Scored to like a soundtrack

[00:18:35] That I like have been crying about

[00:18:37] For a week

[00:18:38] I'll just make like

[00:18:39] Great he bought his zoo

[00:18:40] What a great story

[00:18:41] I'll make like the most formulaic

[00:18:43] Little Hollywood

[00:18:44] You know

[00:18:45] Mini budget mid-budget picture

[00:18:47] You could ever imagine

[00:18:48] Like it's not going to hurt

[00:18:49] Anyone's feelings

[00:18:50] No one's going to

[00:18:52] Really care about it

[00:18:53] Like you know like

[00:18:54] Cause I'm sure Elizabeth Town has like

[00:18:56] Some sort of passionate

[00:18:57] Core of fans

[00:18:58] Like there must be people out there

[00:18:59] I believe Sophie Perrault

[00:19:00] A listener of our podcast

[00:19:01] Is a fan

[00:19:02] There are other people

[00:19:03] Yeah no shit

[00:19:04] Where he's like

[00:19:05] I mean I

[00:19:06] Joe Robinson didn't Joe Robinson

[00:19:07] Joanna Robinson seems to like

[00:19:09] Elizabeth Town

[00:19:10] But she's a huge camera crow fan

[00:19:11] I think

[00:19:12] But like

[00:19:13] Find me the Cameron Crow fan

[00:19:15] Who thinks we bought his zoo

[00:19:16] Is his best movie

[00:19:17] Like

[00:19:18] Okay

[00:19:19] No one surely

[00:19:20] No one's going to go to the mass

[00:19:21] Playing it safe is what I'm saying

[00:19:22] Yes but

[00:19:23] But here's a thing

[00:19:24] And we're going to get into this movie

[00:19:25] But here's a

[00:19:26] Interesting prism

[00:19:27] I want to throw out from the get go

[00:19:29] Uh huh

[00:19:30] A prism I think we should view

[00:19:33] We bought a zoo from

[00:19:35] Yeah

[00:19:36] I think

[00:19:38] This is

[00:19:39] The film

[00:19:41] That makes the strongest

[00:19:43] Argument

[00:19:44] For Cameron Crow

[00:19:46] Being an auteur

[00:19:48] In the sort of strict auteur

[00:19:50] That's the theory kind of wet

[00:19:52] Because it is not a personal film for him

[00:19:54] Sure but it still feels very camera crowy

[00:19:56] Yeah I think that's

[00:19:57] It's unmistakably Cameron Crow film

[00:19:58] Without being something that he cooked up

[00:20:00] I'll give you this

[00:20:02] Yeah

[00:20:03] But I feel like it's more like

[00:20:04] There's these moments where you're like

[00:20:06] Oh like there it is

[00:20:08] But then there's also like

[00:20:09] Oh here's our 50th reaction shot

[00:20:11] From an ostrich

[00:20:13] Great just what we need

[00:20:14] Let's start getting into the meat

[00:20:15] Of the film

[00:20:16] But I just want to set that out as a

[00:20:17] Thing

[00:20:18] Because I'm going to make some arguments

[00:20:19] Towards that point

[00:20:20] For better or worse

[00:20:21] I think this film shows

[00:20:23] Yeah I know what you mean

[00:20:24] Yeah

[00:20:25] He's no whatever

[00:20:26] Who's like a totally

[00:20:27] Who directed David Frankel

[00:20:28] He's no David Frankel

[00:20:29] Right

[00:20:30] Who directed the devil with Frankel

[00:20:31] It's fine but like yes

[00:20:32] No yeah

[00:20:33] He's a competent

[00:20:34] You could see a version of this film

[00:20:35] That was written by Aline Broshman-Cannard

[00:20:37] Directed by Dave Frankel

[00:20:38] Right

[00:20:39] And would be solid sturdy

[00:20:41] But lacking any real character

[00:20:43] Absolutely

[00:20:44] And this film has a lot of personality

[00:20:45] Yeah

[00:20:46] So that's where I'd have originally

[00:20:47] I think it has some personality

[00:20:48] And then other times it feels a little more

[00:20:51] You know blah blah blah

[00:20:52] I'm not always saying personality in a positive way

[00:20:54] I think it has personality from beginning to end

[00:20:56] Well we've staked out our positions

[00:20:58] Now

[00:20:59] I'm going to make fun of this movie

[00:21:01] Because it is about buying a zoo

[00:21:03] And it's ridiculous

[00:21:04] And it's called We Bought a Zoo

[00:21:05] It's called We Bought a Zoo

[00:21:06] Which is like

[00:21:07] Very easy to make fun of this movie

[00:21:08] It's just

[00:21:09] It's kind of like that thing

[00:21:10] When like you're a kid

[00:21:12] And like the kid who gets picked on a lot

[00:21:14] Where some like obnoxious

[00:21:16] Nerdy t-shirt

[00:21:17] And you're just like

[00:21:18] Why is he doing that

[00:21:19] Or he starts yelling at people about

[00:21:21] I don't know

[00:21:22] Like the nerdiest thing

[00:21:23] Like Dungeons and Dragons

[00:21:24] And you're just like

[00:21:25] I don't want to pick

[00:21:26] I'm not picking on you

[00:21:27] But like I don't want

[00:21:28] Donald Duck sneakers

[00:21:29] Are you fucking kidding me

[00:21:30] Speaking as someone who was

[00:21:31] Don't eat your boogers

[00:21:32] You know they're looking for reasons

[00:21:33] To punch you

[00:21:34] Exactly

[00:21:35] Someone who was a nerdy guy

[00:21:36] Ditto

[00:21:37] But was also someone who kind of

[00:21:38] Tried to keep that shit

[00:21:39] As under wraps as possible

[00:21:41] You know

[00:21:42] That's where you and I is different

[00:21:43] Just to kind of like

[00:21:44] You know avoid

[00:21:45] Rocking the boat too much

[00:21:47] When there would be that guy

[00:21:48] Who wouldn't

[00:21:49] You know who would let it all

[00:21:50] Hang out and you admire it

[00:21:51] But at the same time

[00:21:52] Like when they were getting picked on

[00:21:53] Sometimes we'd be like

[00:21:55] Did you have to be called

[00:21:56] We bought a zoo

[00:21:57] You know

[00:21:58] And I feel like at the time

[00:22:00] Because we didn't know each other

[00:22:02] With children

[00:22:03] No no no

[00:22:04] I'm saying you and I

[00:22:05] Had not met when we

[00:22:06] Bought a zoo came out

[00:22:07] No

[00:22:08] We had not

[00:22:09] But I

[00:22:10] Yes

[00:22:11] Which means a lot of our

[00:22:12] Mutual friends

[00:22:13] Who I met through you

[00:22:14] And sort of the film writing

[00:22:16] Criticism community

[00:22:17] I had not met yet either

[00:22:19] But I feel like

[00:22:20] My friends were fellow cinephiles

[00:22:22] And

[00:22:23] You know

[00:22:24] Just filmed Twitter

[00:22:25] People I was following at the time

[00:22:26] There was this sentiment of like

[00:22:27] Come on

[00:22:28] You're killing me here

[00:22:29] Because people wanted to see

[00:22:31] Like whether or not they liked him

[00:22:32] The idea of Kim and Crow

[00:22:33] Being back

[00:22:34] Because for a while it was like

[00:22:35] Is he ever going to make a movie again

[00:22:36] Yeah right right right

[00:22:37] And it was like

[00:22:38] He had made one flawed film

[00:22:39] And one out now bomb

[00:22:40] It wasn't like it was like

[00:22:41] Impossible that he could

[00:22:42] Right it was like

[00:22:43] Maybe he'll just have another

[00:22:44] Tyrann McGuire in his back pocket

[00:22:46] You know whatever

[00:22:47] He might be Estella

[00:22:48] Yeah

[00:22:49] He might get his group back

[00:22:53] Ten comedy points

[00:22:54] I wasn't

[00:22:55] I was trying to be profound

[00:22:56] I was looking for ten profundity points

[00:22:58] You don't know about profundity points

[00:23:02] Alright move on

[00:23:03] Um

[00:23:04] I just remember the sentiment being that

[00:23:06] Like when you'd walk by a poster

[00:23:08] The trailer would come up in a theater

[00:23:09] You'd just like put your head in your hands

[00:23:11] And be like come on man

[00:23:12] Just fucking change the title

[00:23:13] I'm trying to like fight for you there

[00:23:15] What would you call it

[00:23:16] Well this is the problem

[00:23:17] So I was watching it last night

[00:23:18] Family zoo

[00:23:19] Yeah

[00:23:20] Hey here's a game

[00:23:21] Tweet at us

[00:23:22] Yeah a better title

[00:23:23] Than we bought a zoo

[00:23:24] Yeah

[00:23:25] Uh I'd love to hear some suggestions

[00:23:27] I watched the whole movie

[00:23:28] And I couldn't fucking think of one

[00:23:29] Dead mom live animals

[00:23:31] That's good

[00:23:32] That's good

[00:23:33] I would green like that

[00:23:34] I'd call it

[00:23:36] Warning live humans

[00:23:40] Don't feed the dad

[00:23:43] Please do not feed the dad

[00:23:45] Oh dad like zookeeper

[00:23:48] I don't know

[00:23:49] Yeah

[00:23:52] A zoo home

[00:23:55] I don't know what to fucking call it

[00:23:57] But just like

[00:23:58] You could also just call it like

[00:24:00] Benjamin Mees great adventure

[00:24:03] I guess so yeah

[00:24:05] I don't know just don't call it we bought a zoo

[00:24:07] Collateralized debt obligations

[00:24:09] Cause it's about all the money he thinks of

[00:24:11] Here's a question

[00:24:12] Like what's the best movie title

[00:24:14] That also functions as a complete sentence like that

[00:24:18] Do you know what I'm saying

[00:24:19] Like since titles are inherently

[00:24:21] Kind of goofy

[00:24:22] Yeah it's tough I can't think of it

[00:24:23] There will be blood

[00:24:25] It's pretty good

[00:24:26] Yeah you're right that's probably the single best one

[00:24:28] That's pretty good

[00:24:29] But even something like say anything where it's like

[00:24:31] You're starting to say something and the ellipses

[00:24:33] Kind of like do you know what I'm saying

[00:24:35] There's an ellipses in the title of say anything

[00:24:37] Well

[00:24:38] Alright but I was gonna say

[00:24:39] As much as I want to make fun of the movie and will

[00:24:41] Yeah

[00:24:42] For being about a guy who bought a zoo

[00:24:43] And being titled we bought a zoo

[00:24:45] You know I think we've both been moving

[00:24:48] We've been involved in apartment moving

[00:24:50] In New York City

[00:24:51] We both had moves in the last week

[00:24:52] Of recording this episode

[00:24:53] We both moved in the last five days

[00:24:55] Yeah and which is especially in New York

[00:24:58] A real pain in the tuchus

[00:25:00] Yup

[00:25:01] I'm still grieving over a breakup

[00:25:02] I'm a real

[00:25:03] A real delicate position

[00:25:04] And I'm grieving over your terrible tweets

[00:25:06] Yup

[00:25:07] Every night

[00:25:08] And I

[00:25:10] And I sit down to watch we bought a zoo

[00:25:12] Which I had never seen

[00:25:13] Yup

[00:25:14] And you know it's cute

[00:25:15] I kind of like that

[00:25:16] You know

[00:25:17] I'll buy a zoo

[00:25:18] Maybe I just needed someone to buy a zoo

[00:25:19] You didn't think of this movie

[00:25:20] It's charming

[00:25:22] It's kind of charming

[00:25:23] It's okay

[00:25:24] I mean I like it

[00:25:26] There are a lot of things I don't like about it

[00:25:28] But I'll say this

[00:25:29] I watched it last night

[00:25:30] And I cried

[00:25:31] I tweeted this out

[00:25:33] I believe I cried at 12 different points

[00:25:35] Yeah well

[00:25:36] That speaks a lot to my emotional

[00:25:38] Like a lot to go straight

[00:25:39] I don't often cry at movies

[00:25:40] I will often get choked up at movies

[00:25:43] Sure

[00:25:44] I rarely am moved to physical tears

[00:25:45] I will admit that I was crying before

[00:25:47] I started watching the movie

[00:25:49] Yeah I don't know if you were crying at the movie

[00:25:51] I was buttered

[00:25:52] But now the 12 points in the film

[00:25:53] Where I have historically

[00:25:54] This is my second time watching the film

[00:25:56] The 12 points in the film

[00:25:57] Where I previously got a little lump in the throat

[00:25:59] Now became full tears

[00:26:01] I'm an easy cry

[00:26:03] At a movie and I cried

[00:26:04] Zero times during this movie

[00:26:06] Okay well I just think this movie is

[00:26:07] Charming

[00:26:09] Like I cry when the car

[00:26:14] In Mad Max Fury Road

[00:26:16] Kind of gets bumped into the dust cloud

[00:26:17] And like swirls around and explodes

[00:26:19] Because it's beautiful

[00:26:20] Yeah because it's so amazing

[00:26:21] Yeah

[00:26:22] Like I did not cry at We Bought a Zoo

[00:26:24] Not when they were thinking of buying the zoo

[00:26:26] Not when they bought the zoo

[00:26:27] And not when they opened the zoo

[00:26:29] I didn't cry at those moments

[00:26:30] I'll tell you the moments I cried at

[00:26:31] When we get to them

[00:26:32] What's the most embarrassing movie

[00:26:33] That you cried during

[00:26:34] Like can you think of a scene

[00:26:35] That makes you cry

[00:26:36] That you're just like

[00:26:37] I'll have to think about that

[00:26:38] I can't

[00:26:39] I don't have an answer

[00:26:40] I have one

[00:26:41] I was on a plane back from Aruba

[00:26:43] With a girlfriend

[00:26:44] Yeah

[00:26:45] And they were playing

[00:26:46] Hotel for Dogs

[00:26:47] That sounds good so far

[00:26:49] Yeah I love it

[00:26:50] And I

[00:26:51] I haven't answered

[00:26:52] Cried so hard

[00:26:54] I've never seen Hotel for Dogs

[00:26:55] Because the dogs start running a hotel

[00:26:59] Well I mean so far I'm bored

[00:27:02] Did people say they couldn't do it

[00:27:04] They know and believed them

[00:27:06] Because that always makes me emotional

[00:27:08] If a movie is like

[00:27:10] You can't succeed

[00:27:11] The world is betting on it

[00:27:12] So Emma Roberts does not run the hotel for dogs

[00:27:14] She helps but it's the dogs

[00:27:16] This is, it's dog related

[00:27:18] There was a film called Max

[00:27:20] That came out

[00:27:21] The film about the military dog

[00:27:23] I think last year

[00:27:24] About a military German Shepherd

[00:27:26] Who returns home from combat

[00:27:28] And has a tough time of it

[00:27:30] I saw the trailer for Max

[00:27:32] In front of Jurassic World

[00:27:33] When I went to see Jurassic World

[00:27:35] There was a moment in the middle of the trailer

[00:27:37] When there were fireworks

[00:27:39] And the dog gets scared

[00:27:40] And the kid has to like hug the dog

[00:27:42] Because he's scared

[00:27:43] And I burst into tears

[00:27:45] Like in the middle of the trailer

[00:27:47] I went oh and grabbed my chest

[00:27:49] And started crying

[00:27:50] And my girlfriend laughed at me

[00:27:51] Can I complete this hat trick?

[00:27:52] Yes

[00:27:53] Because I also, the first answer

[00:27:55] That came to my mind

[00:27:56] I didn't have this when I asked the question

[00:27:57] But now I realize

[00:27:58] The most embarrassing scene

[00:27:59] I can think about crying during

[00:28:00] Is also a dog movie

[00:28:02] Yeah I mean you know

[00:28:03] Dogs

[00:28:04] Well but ready?

[00:28:05] Okay

[00:28:06] And my memories draw because

[00:28:08] A friend of the podcast Rebecca Bollnass

[00:28:10] And I were tweeting about this last night

[00:28:12] I cry during the first live action

[00:28:15] Scooby Doo film

[00:28:17] Wait what moment?

[00:28:19] There is a moment in the film

[00:28:21] And excuse me if I get emotional

[00:28:22] Even talking about it

[00:28:24] But there is a moment in the film

[00:28:28] Yes

[00:28:29] Where whatever the cult is

[00:28:31] The tribe that is staging

[00:28:33] Voodoo rituals

[00:28:35] Yes

[00:28:36] On the island

[00:28:37] I understand

[00:28:38] Where the theme park is happening

[00:28:39] We've all seen Scooby Doo

[00:28:40] Run by Rowan Atkinson

[00:28:41] Who's actually Scrappy Doo

[00:28:44] Forgot about that

[00:28:47] And there's a scene where they're

[00:28:48] Worshipping Scooby as a god

[00:28:50] Scooby and Shaggy have gotten in a fight

[00:28:52] Classic

[00:28:53] Scooby thinks that Shaggy

[00:28:54] Doesn't care about him anymore

[00:28:57] And Scooby is on like a little

[00:28:59] Sort of dais

[00:29:00] And Shaggy goes undercover

[00:29:02] As one of the tribesmen

[00:29:04] And he goes like

[00:29:06] Scooby

[00:29:07] He's like we gotta get out of here

[00:29:09] And Scooby's like

[00:29:10] And Shaggy gives this monologue

[00:29:12] Matthew Lillard in the performance of a lifetime

[00:29:14] Gives this monologue

[00:29:16] About their friendship

[00:29:17] That I think is so touching

[00:29:19] Oh my god this is embarrassing

[00:29:21] He just says like

[00:29:23] You know

[00:29:24] Who's your best friend in the world

[00:29:26] And he's like

[00:29:28] Shaggy

[00:29:29] And he's like

[00:29:30] And who's my best friend in the world

[00:29:31] And Scooby looks at him

[00:29:32] And Scooby's tearing up

[00:29:34] Little CGI tears his eyes

[00:29:36] And he points his little pod himself

[00:29:38] And he goes

[00:29:41] And he goes of course we're two peas

[00:29:43] In a far out pod man

[00:29:44] So we're gonna do what we do best

[00:29:45] We're gonna run out of here screaming

[00:29:47] Like a couple of cowards

[00:29:48] In a big delicious sandwich

[00:29:50] Or something like that

[00:29:51] I'm paraphrasing

[00:29:52] The great James Gunn's fabulous script

[00:29:54] For that film

[00:29:55] But boy is that

[00:29:57] I mean that one puts me through the ringer

[00:29:59] Real waterworks with our podcasts

[00:30:01] And trips

[00:30:02] Yeah it's all over

[00:30:06] Oh boy

[00:30:07] Good times

[00:30:09] In 2011

[00:30:10] A film was released called We Bought a Zoo

[00:30:12] We Bought a Zoo

[00:30:13] Based on a novel

[00:30:14] I mean I'm sorry

[00:30:15] A non-fiction book by Benjamin Me

[00:30:17] Who was a British man

[00:30:18] Who bought a zoo

[00:30:20] But this film is a pretty loose adaptation

[00:30:22] Of what actually happened in real life

[00:30:24] Yes

[00:30:25] He acquired the

[00:30:27] Hartmore Zoological Park

[00:30:29] Which is in Devon

[00:30:31] It was like

[00:30:33] Going to be closed

[00:30:34] Because the safety concerns are really

[00:30:36] Like the old cages

[00:30:38] And stuff were really terrible

[00:30:39] And like it's license was revoked and stuff

[00:30:42] And

[00:30:44] It was bought by the Me family

[00:30:46] For 1.1 million pounds

[00:30:49] And like they had some

[00:30:52] Antics but after a few years

[00:30:54] They restored it

[00:30:55] And it reopened in 2007

[00:30:56] And now it's a

[00:30:58] It's a success

[00:30:59] And he wrote a book about it

[00:31:00] I don't think in real life

[00:31:01] Like he was looking for a new home

[00:31:04] And the real estate agent

[00:31:05] Was like

[00:31:06] Okay here's just a bunch of homes

[00:31:07] Well no

[00:31:08] Let's get to that in a second

[00:31:09] The other thing that is not

[00:31:10] In

[00:31:12] Real stories that his wife was not dead

[00:31:15] That's a Cameron Crow

[00:31:16] Or Eileen Brashen McKenna

[00:31:17] That's a movie invention

[00:31:19] Very interesting

[00:31:20] Now we've talked about

[00:31:21] In the Elizabeth Town Hall camera

[00:31:22] Cause obviously trying to wrestle with

[00:31:24] A loss in Elizabeth Town

[00:31:26] Yeah

[00:31:27] Seems like he's doing the same stuff here

[00:31:29] Right?

[00:31:30] Yeah

[00:31:31] Because I mean the movie

[00:31:32] It's about them buying a zoo

[00:31:33] Yes

[00:31:34] I'm not denying that it's about them buying a zoo

[00:31:35] I'm glad we're getting to this

[00:31:36] Cause this is the big thing

[00:31:37] I want to talk about with this movie

[00:31:38] But certainly it's mostly

[00:31:39] You know

[00:31:40] Whoever made this

[00:31:41] I can't say for sure that it was

[00:31:42] Cameron Crow

[00:31:43] Cause maybe Eileen Brashen McKenna

[00:31:44] Came up with this idea first

[00:31:45] But it seems like he was like

[00:31:46] Well we need more than just

[00:31:48] A zoo purchase

[00:31:49] There's gotta be

[00:31:50] To be the emotional spine of this

[00:31:51] Cause it sounds like in real life

[00:31:52] It was kind of a lark

[00:31:53] Like why not buy a zoo

[00:31:54] That'd be fun

[00:31:55] And this movie

[00:31:56] It's like a man who needs to

[00:31:58] Shake up his life

[00:31:59] Yeah, a man who's lost his wife

[00:32:01] Yes

[00:32:02] And

[00:32:03] The son's kicked out of school

[00:32:04] He's got two kids

[00:32:05] And the daughter seems very balanced

[00:32:07] But the son's having some trouble

[00:32:08] A little darkness

[00:32:09] The daughter's also real cute

[00:32:10] She's amazingly cute

[00:32:12] That's maybe the most adorable

[00:32:14] Child act she's ever seen in a film

[00:32:16] She's adorable

[00:32:17] Her name is Maggie Elizabeth Jones

[00:32:19] She was also in that sitcom

[00:32:20] Ben and Kate with Dakota Johnson

[00:32:21] Which she was also very cute

[00:32:22] Yeah she was

[00:32:23] She was also an identity thief

[00:32:24] I haven't seen that one

[00:32:26] How is it?

[00:32:29] Not good

[00:32:30] Great

[00:32:32] What were we gonna say?

[00:32:34] Oh and so

[00:32:35] Yeah, so he's a journalist

[00:32:38] And like there's this kind of really vague

[00:32:40] Really lame sort of like

[00:32:42] Plot where it's like

[00:32:43] Oh journalism as an industry has collapsed

[00:32:45] So you can't do that anymore

[00:32:47] We're brushing over something here

[00:32:49] Cause the opening of the film is

[00:32:50] A voiceover narration by the son

[00:32:52] Yes

[00:32:53] Which then is gone for the rest of the movie

[00:32:54] Made by Colin Ford, yes

[00:32:55] Yes, it's gone for the rest of the movie

[00:32:56] But it sets up the dad

[00:32:57] Who was this crazy kind of red and gay journalist

[00:32:59] Yeah

[00:33:00] And he'd go anywhere for a story

[00:33:01] He covered himself in Killer B's

[00:33:03] And he's talked to warlords

[00:33:06] And drug dealers

[00:33:07] And all this crazy stuff

[00:33:08] Well you're missing the part of this movie

[00:33:10] Where I become 150% on board

[00:33:13] What is it?

[00:33:14] They're showing as the example

[00:33:15] Of all the crazy stuff he does

[00:33:16] He's in the back of the truck with the warlord

[00:33:18] And he's going you know this and that

[00:33:20] And death to the infantels

[00:33:21] Right

[00:33:22] And he asks the warlord

[00:33:23] This guy, he's such a crazy

[00:33:25] Like off the fucking angle kind of reporter

[00:33:28] He's asking different questions

[00:33:29] That one else

[00:33:30] He goes okay fascinating

[00:33:31] What's your favorite movie?

[00:33:32] And the guy says toy story

[00:33:35] And he goes the first one

[00:33:36] Or the second one

[00:33:37] And he turns to all his goons

[00:33:40] And he's like

[00:33:41] Looking for consensus

[00:33:42] First or second they're like second though

[00:33:43] Second though

[00:33:44] So this movie within the first minute

[00:33:47] Establishes that Toy Story 2

[00:33:48] Is the best film I've ever made

[00:33:49] Which I agree with

[00:33:50] Cool

[00:33:51] Because as a warlord goes

[00:33:53] So goes the nation

[00:33:55] Uh huh

[00:33:56] Great movie

[00:33:57] Toy Story 2

[00:33:58] Toy Story 2?

[00:33:59] Toy Story 2?

[00:34:00] Yes

[00:34:01] I agree

[00:34:02] And by proxy we bought a zoo

[00:34:03] Is also a great movie

[00:34:04] No

[00:34:05] Because it vouches for Toy Story 2

[00:34:07] Uh huh

[00:34:08] We bought a 2

[00:34:09] Exactly

[00:34:10] Toy Story 2

[00:34:11] Yes

[00:34:13] Are you laughing?

[00:34:15] You find that funny?

[00:34:18] So he's having a crisis right?

[00:34:20] Okay

[00:34:21] Son acting up

[00:34:22] Kicked out of school

[00:34:24] Daughter seems very precocious

[00:34:26] Makes a lot of sandwiches

[00:34:27] Maybe suspiciously

[00:34:29] I agree with you

[00:34:31] He can't even go into the local diner

[00:34:33] Because that's where he met his wife

[00:34:35] And he has too many memories

[00:34:37] So he's kind of got to get out of town

[00:34:40] What town is it?

[00:34:41] You're forgetting the biggest problem

[00:34:42] Of this film

[00:34:44] The biggest problem he has in his life

[00:34:46] At the start of this film

[00:34:48] Too many women want to fuck him

[00:34:49] Yeah

[00:34:50] Women are like throwing lasagnas at him

[00:34:53] It's kind of like that movie

[00:34:54] Like he's fucking Garfield or something

[00:34:58] Ladies be throwing lasagnas at him

[00:35:01] Yeah it's like the intern

[00:35:03] The Robert De Niro

[00:35:04] Where it's like yeah

[00:35:05] Oh it's like Newton hot widow on the block

[00:35:07] Everyone want to climb that widow tree

[00:35:09] And as his daughter says

[00:35:10] He's got most of his hair

[00:35:11] Most of the other dads are bald

[00:35:13] Makes a lot of hot candidation

[00:35:14] We should say that this character

[00:35:15] Benjamin Me is played by Matt Damon

[00:35:17] Matthew Damon

[00:35:19] Is his full name actually Matthew?

[00:35:21] I mean what else would it be?

[00:35:22] Mathalium

[00:35:25] You're right, Matthew Page Damon

[00:35:27] I was gonna guess P

[00:35:29] Well there you go

[00:35:30] Okay

[00:35:31] And just to give us an idea

[00:35:32] Where was Matt Damon?

[00:35:34] Matti D

[00:35:35] In that year he had done the movie

[00:35:37] The Adjustment Bureau

[00:35:38] Which I like

[00:35:39] It's not a bad movie

[00:35:40] Cute movie

[00:35:41] It's kind of odd

[00:35:42] Charming

[00:35:43] And Contagion

[00:35:44] Where he got a cold and didn't die

[00:35:46] And he rules in Contagion

[00:35:48] He's good

[00:35:49] And Margaret had come out that year

[00:35:51] But he shot it like six years earlier

[00:35:52] So that's really count

[00:35:53] My favorite film of the last time

[00:35:54] Mine too

[00:35:55] Well my favorite film of the year for sure

[00:35:57] And you know before then

[00:35:59] He had done Invictus a couple years before

[00:36:01] Got in an Oscar nomination

[00:36:02] Which is one of the weirdest Oscar nominations

[00:36:04] Cause he's like

[00:36:05] I mean he's solid in that movie

[00:36:06] Cause he's a pro

[00:36:07] But like that's not a great performance

[00:36:08] He was just doing his job in that movie

[00:36:10] He was just kind of

[00:36:11] I feel like Damon was in a bit of an odd place

[00:36:13] Where the born franchise

[00:36:15] Was sort of dormant

[00:36:16] He had walked away in 2007

[00:36:18] Said I don't want to do any more borns

[00:36:19] He made this movie Green Zone

[00:36:21] With Paul Greengrass

[00:36:22] That was a huge financial disaster

[00:36:23] Huge flop

[00:36:24] And then he sort of starts rebuilding it

[00:36:27] By popping up in smaller roles

[00:36:28] In like Drew Gritt

[00:36:29] And Contagion

[00:36:30] And so ooh yeah

[00:36:31] Ooh Matt Damon connected

[00:36:32] Cause he does Hereafter

[00:36:33] But he's doing a lot of supporting roles

[00:36:34] Hereafter was weird

[00:36:35] But yeah

[00:36:36] But Invictus is a supporting role

[00:36:37] And something like

[00:36:38] A Justin Bieber which did okay

[00:36:39] It's like in terms of box office

[00:36:40] He's at best getting like

[00:36:41] On-Base doubles or triples right now

[00:36:42] He's not getting home runs

[00:36:43] Yeah

[00:36:44] His two big franchises

[00:36:45] Born and Oceans are dormant

[00:36:47] Dormant

[00:36:48] And he doesn't get another

[00:36:49] Like real vehicle that clicks

[00:36:51] In a big commercial mainstream way

[00:36:53] For a number of years after this

[00:36:55] I mean you're the Martian basically

[00:36:57] Yeah

[00:36:58] But at this point in time

[00:36:59] Definitely he's in a weird zone

[00:37:00] Which by the way was very funny

[00:37:02] The Martian?

[00:37:03] I mean probably the best comedy of last year

[00:37:05] Outstanding

[00:37:06] Oh my god

[00:37:07] That will never stop being a good bit

[00:37:08] Yeah

[00:37:09] So Damon is your star

[00:37:11] He's got big feathered hair

[00:37:13] Yeah

[00:37:14] He's got a weird hair

[00:37:15] Odd hair

[00:37:16] Odd hair

[00:37:17] It's odd

[00:37:18] But I think that he is decent in the movie

[00:37:19] I think he's really sweet

[00:37:21] Look dude is solid right?

[00:37:23] Matt Damon is one of our most dependable

[00:37:25] Movie stars

[00:37:26] But that's almost the thing about him

[00:37:27] Is that he's almost like

[00:37:29] You know defined by being dependable

[00:37:31] He's like the most meat and potatoes

[00:37:33] Like A-list actor

[00:37:34] That's what I love about him

[00:37:35] In The Departed

[00:37:36] Where he's suddenly like

[00:37:37] Absolutely out of his mind funny

[00:37:39] And like really really profane

[00:37:41] And weird

[00:37:42] And he's almost seems to be playing the character

[00:37:44] Like he's this like violently repressed homosexual

[00:37:46] Which I adore about that movie

[00:37:48] But like that was rare

[00:37:50] Usually Damon's kind of your solid

[00:37:52] Your steady guy

[00:37:53] Another from my love

[00:37:54] Him in

[00:37:55] Which also uses him as like a second

[00:37:57] Or third lead you know

[00:37:59] Not like a supporting character

[00:38:00] But not the driving force

[00:38:02] Is true grit

[00:38:04] Here's this interesting thing

[00:38:05] I love him in true grit

[00:38:06] With Matt Damon, okay

[00:38:07] So a lot of people like

[00:38:08] His buddy Ben Affleck

[00:38:10] Not a great actor

[00:38:11] Pretty great movie star, right?

[00:38:13] If you work within the limitations

[00:38:15] I think Affleck's become quite a good actor

[00:38:16] I think he's become better

[00:38:17] But if you work within the limitations

[00:38:18] Of what Affleck can do

[00:38:19] He has a very powerful presence, right?

[00:38:21] Agreed

[00:38:22] Someone like Johnny Depp

[00:38:23] Was always kind of innately

[00:38:24] A character actor

[00:38:25] And he became a movie star

[00:38:27] Because A, he was really good looking

[00:38:29] In charming

[00:38:30] But B, because a couple of those characters

[00:38:31] He played became kind of iconic

[00:38:33] Yeah

[00:38:34] But he's always more comfortable

[00:38:35] Doing the fucking Jack Sparrow thing

[00:38:36] Than he is doing like the public enemies thing

[00:38:38] Right?

[00:38:39] Yeah, although I think he's great in public enemies

[00:38:41] But go on

[00:38:42] I agree

[00:38:43] But don't desert it

[00:38:44] Matt Damon's an interesting guy

[00:38:45] Where he works really well as a movie star

[00:38:47] Just being solid, down the middle

[00:38:49] Mean potatoes, sturdy

[00:38:51] He is like a moral center to your film

[00:38:54] He's compelling, he's strong, right?

[00:38:56] You're saying but give him a supporting role, right?

[00:38:58] Can really pop doing supporting character roles

[00:39:00] Interstellar

[00:39:01] Yeah, he's great in that

[00:39:02] Oh, he's amazing

[00:39:03] So like I think Matt Damon

[00:39:04] Is one of our best movie stars

[00:39:05] But he also is even better

[00:39:07] When you take the weight

[00:39:08] Of carrying the movie off of his shoulders

[00:39:09] And go

[00:39:10] Matt, get a little weird

[00:39:11] I think he's a B plus movie star

[00:39:13] A character guy, you know like

[00:39:16] What's your favorite Matt Damon

[00:39:18] Movie star movie, you know

[00:39:20] The part that doesn't count

[00:39:24] I mean I think the

[00:39:26] Well I'll say I'm a born neophyte

[00:39:29] I've only ever seen the second one

[00:39:30] Which made no sense to me

[00:39:31] Because I hadn't seen the first one

[00:39:33] Yeah, that's a decision

[00:39:34] Right

[00:39:35] I would say the third born is easily the best one

[00:39:37] Yeah, see for me my answer is probably the Martian

[00:39:39] Just because I think it's a great

[00:39:41] The Martian is a good answer

[00:39:42] It's a good unpacking of everything he can do well

[00:39:44] And so funny

[00:39:45] Yeah

[00:39:46] Anyway, so we

[00:39:47] Everything, it shows all the colors on the palette

[00:39:48] We bought a zoo

[00:39:49] Yeah

[00:39:50] So he's sad

[00:39:51] Yeah

[00:39:52] And his brother is Thomas Hayden Church

[00:39:53] In a very odd performance

[00:39:55] This is the tail end of

[00:39:57] I think studios being like

[00:39:59] Eh, toss some THC in there, you know

[00:40:01] Yeah

[00:40:02] Like I feel like Thomas Hayden Church has vanished

[00:40:04] After his sort of bounce back

[00:40:05] He's going to be singing on the new HBO

[00:40:07] Series divorce starring Sarah Jessica Parker

[00:40:10] I think, you know, like a lot of actors

[00:40:12] Who have had a hard time placing themselves

[00:40:14] He's looking to rebound in the prestige drama

[00:40:17] Why not, right?

[00:40:18] Series, yes

[00:40:19] But he definitely had a very weird career

[00:40:22] After

[00:40:23] The sideways

[00:40:24] And a movie that we disagree on

[00:40:27] Spider-Man 3

[00:40:29] I think he's really solid in

[00:40:30] I think he's quite good in that film

[00:40:32] Makes no sense

[00:40:33] But he's really fucking good

[00:40:34] Fucking good

[00:40:35] And it's more impressive because the character

[00:40:37] Makes no sense

[00:40:38] There are a couple scenes he has that have like

[00:40:40] Real fucking dramatic punch to them

[00:40:41] Wait, you think that movie is good?

[00:40:43] I think that movie is interesting

[00:40:44] And you hate that movie as much as any movie

[00:40:46] You've said that to me in the past

[00:40:47] So awful

[00:40:48] Right?

[00:40:49] You hate that movie as much as any movie

[00:40:50] Not that I don't think it's interesting

[00:40:51] But I hate it

[00:40:52] Like, you know what I mean

[00:40:53] Like, certainly I agree

[00:40:54] It's not just your formula bad movie

[00:40:56] I think that movie doesn't work and it is bad

[00:40:58] I think 30% of it is like deeply

[00:41:00] Interesting and I will go to the math for

[00:41:02] Okay, whatever

[00:41:03] I think the scene

[00:41:04] Enough, enough

[00:41:05] We're moving past it

[00:41:06] Someday we're going to talk about Spider-Man 3

[00:41:07] Because we're going to do the same Ray Me

[00:41:08] And I need to talk about that movie

[00:41:09] Because I have a lot of thoughts on it

[00:41:10] Hey guys, who bought a zoo?

[00:41:12] Matt Damon playing the character Benjamin

[00:41:14] Me

[00:41:15] Thomas Aiden Church plays his brother

[00:41:16] Who is, you know what Thomas Aiden Church

[00:41:18] We're saying can be a great actor

[00:41:20] You look at something like Sideways

[00:41:22] Where he's playing a cat

[00:41:23] And anyone else could have made it very one dimensional

[00:41:24] But he adds a lot of depth to it

[00:41:26] And he got an Oscar nom for it

[00:41:27] This role he is playing

[00:41:29] Just some funny line readings

[00:41:31] This character does not hang together as a person at all

[00:41:33] He's just a lot of kind of like

[00:41:35] Hey look, I don't know

[00:41:36] He's a real phoned in like

[00:41:39] Cookie older brother, you know

[00:41:41] Type

[00:41:42] I mean it's nothing to him

[00:41:43] There's the one scene where they try to deepen him

[00:41:45] With him not getting over his ex-wife

[00:41:47] But whatever

[00:41:48] That doesn't really work

[00:41:49] It's stupid

[00:41:50] I will say visually

[00:41:51] I love the casting of the two of them as brothers

[00:41:53] I think that works really well

[00:41:54] Yeah, I agree

[00:41:55] They both have that sort of freckly

[00:41:56] Northeastern stock

[00:41:57] Yeah

[00:41:58] The movie is basically

[00:42:00] I think I said this before

[00:42:02] The sitcom Raising Dad

[00:42:04] Yes

[00:42:05] Which by the way is

[00:42:06] Have you ever seen Raising Dad?

[00:42:07] No

[00:42:08] You know who was in Raising Dad

[00:42:09] The Bob Saget sitcom?

[00:42:10] Yeah, the WB Bob Saget 2001 sitcom

[00:42:12] The last one for one season

[00:42:13] Bob Saget

[00:42:14] Cap Dennings

[00:42:15] Brie Larson

[00:42:17] Jerry Adler

[00:42:19] I mean that's it

[00:42:20] That's pretty incredible

[00:42:21] Pretty good

[00:42:22] One season crappy sitcom

[00:42:23] But the same thing

[00:42:24] I mean it's two daughters

[00:42:25] Instead of a daughter and a son

[00:42:27] But you know

[00:42:28] Wife dies

[00:42:29] Dad's trying to figure it out

[00:42:30] And then there's a kooky

[00:42:31] In his case

[00:42:32] Grandpa

[00:42:33] But you know

[00:42:34] Thomas Aiden Church hanging around

[00:42:35] Is it full house also

[00:42:36] That his wife just died

[00:42:37] And he's trying to raise two daughters

[00:42:38] Yeah, he's really into the wife just died

[00:42:40] I mean even Raising Dad

[00:42:41] Was a really obnoxious

[00:42:42] Yeah

[00:42:43] Full house

[00:42:44] It's quasi reboot

[00:42:45] Right

[00:42:46] But just the fact

[00:42:47] The house was a little less full

[00:42:48] But other than that

[00:42:49] It has like a 14 year old cat Dennings

[00:42:50] And like an 8 year old

[00:42:51] Brie Larson in it

[00:42:52] Yeah

[00:42:53] And Brie Larson's like

[00:42:54] Really funny

[00:42:55] She's like the wacky little sister

[00:42:56] Yeah, she's a good actress

[00:42:57] Yeah, she's a good actress

[00:42:58] She was always good

[00:42:59] It's like insane

[00:43:00] Even when you watch the early stuff

[00:43:02] Totally

[00:43:03] Yeah

[00:43:04] But I remember reading an interview

[00:43:06] With Matt Damon around the time

[00:43:07] That this film was coming out

[00:43:08] And I think

[00:43:09] You know, this wilderness period

[00:43:11] We're talking about for Damon

[00:43:12] Where his seed cannot really find purchase

[00:43:14] You know

[00:43:15] He's still

[00:43:16] I gave you a look for that one

[00:43:17] He did look it

[00:43:19] But you know

[00:43:20] He's really okay

[00:43:21] They do okay

[00:43:22] Like Adjustment Bureau

[00:43:23] That was okay

[00:43:24] But for a 20 million dollar guy

[00:43:25] Who's known as like

[00:43:26] He's Hollywood elite guys

[00:43:27] Who's really connecting in a big way

[00:43:28] Yeah

[00:43:29] And someone pointed out interestingly

[00:43:31] That at the point that they

[00:43:32] Pulled the trigger on

[00:43:34] Doing this new Jason Bourne movie

[00:43:37] Sure

[00:43:38] It was when he was still sort of

[00:43:39] In this run

[00:43:40] There was pre-Marshan

[00:43:41] Right

[00:43:42] Like now you're like

[00:43:43] He doesn't need to go back to that franchise

[00:43:44] But at the time I think

[00:43:45] He was a little scared of like

[00:43:46] I need to renew the brand

[00:43:47] You know

[00:43:48] Why not

[00:43:49] And then I'll go make the great wall

[00:43:50] Yes

[00:43:51] But I remember

[00:43:52] What do you think the check

[00:43:53] They wrote him for that one was

[00:43:55] I think he probably got 25 million

[00:43:56] Right

[00:43:57] Like it's like

[00:43:58] Hey you want to be in this movie

[00:43:59] About 10th century China

[00:44:00] Directed by

[00:44:01] And financed by Chinese people

[00:44:02] I don't know

[00:44:03] It sounds like a weird idea

[00:44:04] Here's the check

[00:44:05] Yep

[00:44:06] I'll be on the great wall tomorrow

[00:44:07] See you then

[00:44:08] Can I tell you a crazy theory

[00:44:09] That might be proven totally wrong

[00:44:11] On that I have for this film

[00:44:12] I'm an expected Oscar winner

[00:44:13] Who just got in trouble

[00:44:14] For lecturing a black lady

[00:44:15] About diversity in film

[00:44:16] 25 million dollars though

[00:44:18] Oh okay

[00:44:19] Yeah sure

[00:44:20] Can I tell you my crazy theory

[00:44:21] Go ahead

[00:44:22] I have a feeling that Matt Damon

[00:44:23] Is not the lead of that movie

[00:44:25] Maybe

[00:44:26] Maybe

[00:44:27] Maybe Andy Lowe is

[00:44:28] What drives me crazy is that

[00:44:29] That poster is literally

[00:44:30] His face is bigger than the wall

[00:44:31] One also the poster is like

[00:44:33] Who can save us Matt Damon

[00:44:34] No no no

[00:44:35] What do you keep out

[00:44:36] They built it to keep something

[00:44:37] Out

[00:44:38] I was going to say it

[00:44:39] Oh save or bait him

[00:44:40] It's something like

[00:44:41] 550 years old

[00:44:42] 1700 miles long

[00:44:44] What did it

[00:44:45] What was it built to keep out

[00:44:47] Matt Damon

[00:44:48] The great wall

[00:44:49] Like there's no like pause

[00:44:50] Yes

[00:44:51] Like it seems like Matt Damon

[00:44:52] Is what it's trying to keep out

[00:44:53] But even like in a vanilla sky episode

[00:44:54] We talked about like the Tom Cruise

[00:44:56] Big head posters

[00:44:57] That is the biggest I've ever seen

[00:44:58] Anyone's head be on a poster

[00:44:59] It's a big head

[00:45:00] Yeah and especially looming over

[00:45:01] One of the great wonders of the world

[00:45:03] 47 Ronan has a similar thing

[00:45:05] Where like

[00:45:06] The people who saw the movie said

[00:45:07] Like Keanu Reeves is like a supporting character

[00:45:09] Right

[00:45:10] Most of the cast is like

[00:45:11] Actually Japanese

[00:45:12] Right

[00:45:13] And they like put him in a supporting character

[00:45:14] And then made him the fulcrum

[00:45:15] Of the marketing campaign

[00:45:16] Because they needed a known actor

[00:45:17] I have a feeling that film's

[00:45:18] More of an ensemble piece

[00:45:19] Perhaps

[00:45:20] It doesn't make

[00:45:21] The fact that he is a savior character

[00:45:23] Any less problematic

[00:45:24] It doesn't make

[00:45:25] No it's fine

[00:45:26] The marketing and marketing

[00:45:27] I was just making fun of him

[00:45:28] Whatever

[00:45:29] I just wanted to throw my theory out

[00:45:30] Because if a year for now

[00:45:31] I'm correct I'll look like a genius

[00:45:33] He bought a zoo

[00:45:34] It's not even a year

[00:45:35] It's February

[00:45:36] I remember him saying

[00:45:37] In an interview around that time

[00:45:38] He really wants a segue

[00:45:39] To directing motion pictures

[00:45:41] Matt Damon

[00:45:42] Yes

[00:45:43] He still hasn't done it

[00:45:44] I'd watch it

[00:45:45] He said he really wants to do it

[00:45:46] And he said at this point in my career

[00:45:47] I'm mostly picking films

[00:45:48] Based on directors

[00:45:49] I want to work with

[00:45:50] Because I want to see how other people do it

[00:45:51] Well he works with good directors

[00:45:52] He works with Eastwood

[00:45:53] He works with Eastwood twice

[00:45:55] He does this Cameron Crow movie

[00:45:56] He works with the Coens

[00:45:57] Yes

[00:45:58] He works with who we got

[00:46:00] I mean Neil Blancamp seemed like

[00:46:01] A good horse to bet on at that moment

[00:46:02] Sure

[00:46:03] I mean Ridley Scott

[00:46:04] Steven Soderbergh

[00:46:05] In Behind the Candelabra

[00:46:06] And in A

[00:46:07] Yes

[00:46:08] Stantagen

[00:46:09] He almost did

[00:46:10] He works with Gus Van Sant

[00:46:11] Yes

[00:46:12] In Promised Land

[00:46:13] So he was going to direct

[00:46:14] Promised Land

[00:46:15] Right, right

[00:46:16] Because it's like a lefty fracking

[00:46:17] And then there was another film

[00:46:18] That came up and he didn't have time

[00:46:19] To prep it because he was going

[00:46:20] To be shooting that before

[00:46:21] Gus Van Sant stepped in

[00:46:22] But when that film was announced

[00:46:23] That was going to be his directorial debut

[00:46:24] Nolan

[00:46:25] Yes

[00:46:26] He's in Manchester by the sea this year

[00:46:27] Which is kind of full nerven

[00:46:29] Not again

[00:46:30] Yeah, he around that time

[00:46:31] Was buying, optioning the last scripts

[00:46:32] To direct

[00:46:33] And now those talks have died down

[00:46:34] But I think him choosing

[00:46:35] To do this movie was very much

[00:46:36] Based in wanting to see how Cameron Crow

[00:46:38] Did it

[00:46:39] He also was

[00:46:40] At a certain point in time

[00:46:41] Talking pretty seriously about doing avatar

[00:46:43] And he said his main thing

[00:46:44] Was he wanted to see James Cameron work

[00:46:46] And it was just a long production

[00:46:47] He didn't want to do it

[00:46:48] I think that it's interesting

[00:46:50] That he's better than Ben Affleck

[00:46:52] I think in a lot of people's minds

[00:46:54] A little more of a safer bet

[00:46:56] Yes

[00:46:57] And yet Ben Affleck is the one

[00:46:58] Who has transitioned very well to directing

[00:47:00] And has an Oscar for

[00:47:02] Not for directing but for making a movie

[00:47:03] And like

[00:47:04] Damon always seemed like the smarter

[00:47:05] Why hasn't Damon written more movies

[00:47:07] Why hasn't he transitioned into this

[00:47:10] Like what's up with him

[00:47:11] Why

[00:47:12] And I'm telling you

[00:47:13] Like turn of the decade

[00:47:14] He was talking it up

[00:47:15] He was going I don't know how many

[00:47:17] More movies I want to make

[00:47:18] I mostly want to direct

[00:47:19] Buying scripts

[00:47:20] And then that all just sort of disappeared

[00:47:22] Thomas Landon was on the runway

[00:47:23] And then he got off the plane

[00:47:24] And said no it's still my script

[00:47:26] And still starring in it

[00:47:27] Gus come in

[00:47:28] But I think that was the big draw

[00:47:30] For him to we bought a zoo

[00:47:31] I don't think he would have starred

[00:47:33] In the Alley and Brushman kind of

[00:47:34] Version of this film

[00:47:35] I don't think he was interested

[00:47:36] In doing a family dramedy like this

[00:47:38] We're talking about his performance

[00:47:39] And his character

[00:47:40] We've done enough on Damon

[00:47:41] We've done so much on Damon

[00:47:42] It's crazy

[00:47:43] It's not as if there's like no plot

[00:47:44] It has no plot

[00:47:45] So they

[00:47:46] Alright so

[00:47:47] I joked about this on Twitter

[00:47:48] Yeah

[00:47:49] Is that the film is called

[00:47:50] We Bought a Zoo

[00:47:51] Yeah

[00:47:52] And the first 20 minutes

[00:47:53] Are like oh his wife is dead

[00:47:54] And his family you know

[00:47:55] It's leaving it out for you

[00:47:56] And he's like you know what we need

[00:47:57] To do get a new house

[00:47:58] And so JB Smoove

[00:47:59] There's this extended

[00:48:00] Very Cameron Crowey sequence

[00:48:01] With him in the car

[00:48:02] With JB Smoove as the real

[00:48:03] And he's just like

[00:48:04] You know new day

[00:48:05] New day this is great

[00:48:06] And like and then Damon's

[00:48:07] Like how long have you been

[00:48:08] Doing this for

[00:48:09] Like my first day

[00:48:10] This is my first day

[00:48:11] As a real estate agent

[00:48:12] And then

[00:48:13] It's so superfluous

[00:48:14] But it's like it's kind of

[00:48:15] A cute little scene

[00:48:16] And then

[00:48:17] Let me get the names

[00:48:18] Yes Rosie Me

[00:48:20] And she's like this one daddy

[00:48:21] Like she picks out a property

[00:48:22] Well first she says

[00:48:23] My mom is dead

[00:48:24] Yeah

[00:48:25] And Ben is like

[00:48:26] You don't have to say that

[00:48:27] To everybody

[00:48:28] You know

[00:48:29] And she's like

[00:48:30] Well I want him to know

[00:48:31] Because he would have liked her

[00:48:32] And he says

[00:48:33] I think it's very sweet

[00:48:34] He's like

[00:48:35] Well you know

[00:48:36] She's anything like you

[00:48:37] I can't imagine

[00:48:38] She'd be anything less than great

[00:48:39] But it does speak to this

[00:48:40] Weird tonal disparity

[00:48:41] In the film

[00:48:42] We're like

[00:48:43] JB Smoove

[00:48:44] Who I love

[00:48:45] No I mean sure

[00:48:46] I mean

[00:48:47] I agree with you

[00:48:48] A lot of his moments

[00:48:49] I think he sells those lines

[00:48:50] I don't think he doesn't sell them

[00:48:51] But I think the lines around that

[00:48:53] He's playing pretty broad

[00:48:54] Right

[00:48:55] And I think JB Smoove

[00:48:56] Can be subtle

[00:48:57] No he's a pretty broad actor

[00:48:58] I mean you know

[00:48:59] Really bring him in

[00:49:00] Like oh I need a quiet

[00:49:01] You know really sort of

[00:49:03] Like internal performance

[00:49:04] Let me get JB Smoove

[00:49:05] And same

[00:49:06] Same for John Michael Higgins

[00:49:07] Who's playing to the rafters

[00:49:08] In this

[00:49:09] I really

[00:49:10] I can't stand that

[00:49:11] Because I love John Michael Higgins

[00:49:13] We'll get to him

[00:49:14] One of the best

[00:49:15] He's one of the best

[00:49:16] You know like a character

[00:49:17] But he's in a totally different film

[00:49:18] Well no but not

[00:49:19] There is no lazier

[00:49:20] Casting decision than like

[00:49:22] We need a persnickety inspector type

[00:49:24] Oh wait are you guys

[00:49:25] Talking about the bad zoo boy

[00:49:27] Yeah the bad zoo boy

[00:49:29] As the girls call him

[00:49:31] The bad zoo boy

[00:49:32] Oh my god

[00:49:33] Oh look out here comes

[00:49:34] The bad zoo boy

[00:49:35] Yeah I mean it's like

[00:49:36] Really lazy short hand casting

[00:49:38] He feels like

[00:49:39] He's just going through the motions

[00:49:40] Really does

[00:49:41] And the JB Smoove

[00:49:42] Casting for me

[00:49:43] He feels like they were like

[00:49:44] Oh we need to

[00:49:45] Pept the movie up

[00:49:46] Yeah let's get this movie going

[00:49:47] JB Smoove can't not be funny

[00:49:49] Which like he's inherently funny

[00:49:50] I basically agree

[00:49:51] You know what I think it's fine

[00:49:52] But here's the thing that

[00:49:53] I'm complaining about

[00:49:54] She's like

[00:49:55] This one Danny

[00:49:56] And he's like okay

[00:49:57] And we're watching the movie

[00:49:58] We're like it's a zoo

[00:49:59] It's a zoo

[00:50:00] It's a zoo

[00:50:01] The movie is called We Bought a Zoo

[00:50:02] I had to go up to the ticket counter

[00:50:04] And I go one for We Bought a Zoo

[00:50:06] I had to verbally say

[00:50:08] We Bought a zoo in order to see this movie

[00:50:10] I know motherfuckers gonna buy a zoo

[00:50:12] And the movie is like

[00:50:13] JB Smoove's like

[00:50:14] Well there's a thing about that property

[00:50:15] Cut

[00:50:16] You know like

[00:50:17] You know like we're not

[00:50:18] He goes

[00:50:19] Well there's a

[00:50:20] Real pretty but there's one thing

[00:50:21] You should know

[00:50:22] Cut you know

[00:50:23] And

[00:50:24] They're looking around

[00:50:25] It's a zoo

[00:50:26] It's a zoo

[00:50:27] And you know he sees the house

[00:50:28] He's like this is great

[00:50:29] I love this house

[00:50:30] He's like

[00:50:31] No no real nice house

[00:50:32] But cut

[00:50:33] But yeah

[00:50:34] Here's a

[00:50:35] But uh

[00:50:36] And then finally it's like

[00:50:37] The girl's like with a peacock

[00:50:38] And he's like looking at a lion

[00:50:39] And he's like

[00:50:40] See the thing about this place

[00:50:41] We know it's a zoo

[00:50:43] David he doesn't

[00:50:44] What if they went to a bunch of different zoos

[00:50:46] And they had to pick which zoo

[00:50:47] They wanted to live in

[00:50:48] Yeah right

[00:50:49] We could talk about just this one scene

[00:50:50] For 45 minutes

[00:50:51] But I think

[00:50:52] You're wrong David

[00:50:53] He doesn't say

[00:50:54] It's a zoo he goes

[00:50:55] It's a zoo

[00:50:56] Like he's

[00:50:57] Samarang so much

[00:50:58] And he's drawing it out

[00:50:59] And then when he says it

[00:51:00] He says it really quickly

[00:51:01] It's a zoo

[00:51:02] And the camera like

[00:51:03] It goes in like this wacky

[00:51:04] Like it almost feels like a fisheye lens

[00:51:05] Like he's really close to the camera

[00:51:06] And he leans in when he says it

[00:51:08] Yeah

[00:51:09] It's a zoo

[00:51:10] Also it feels like

[00:51:11] And I feel bad for him

[00:51:13] It feels like they picked glasses

[00:51:14] That don't fit his head properly

[00:51:16] His glasses are very funny looking

[00:51:18] They're not shaped

[00:51:19] They're improperly centered

[00:51:20] It's odd anyway

[00:51:21] Anyway

[00:51:22] So it's a zoo

[00:51:23] But also

[00:51:24] I mean cause I need to talk about this

[00:51:25] No no you don't

[00:51:26] In what reality

[00:51:27] Do you just throw a zoo

[00:51:29] That's the thing

[00:51:30] Onto the end of a list of houses

[00:51:31] You're looking at

[00:51:32] And not immediately go

[00:51:33] So the last house we're looking at

[00:51:34] I gotta let you know

[00:51:35] It's not just a house

[00:51:36] It's a business

[00:51:37] It comes with a business attached to it

[00:51:38] That you will have to run and operate

[00:51:40] And it's not just

[00:51:41] Oh here's a store where you sell sundries

[00:51:43] It's a fucking zoo

[00:51:44] Yeah

[00:51:45] And there's a restaurant

[00:51:46] Operated by L Fanning

[00:51:48] Well uh it's uh

[00:51:49] You know you gotta tell him it's a fucking zoo

[00:51:51] Well it's the other thing

[00:51:52] It's like yeah right

[00:51:53] When you're looking at a real estate

[00:51:54] Layout

[00:51:55] A blueprint or whatever

[00:51:56] It might say like

[00:51:57] Well the funny thing about this

[00:51:58] Is the bathroom is actually like

[00:51:59] There's one room that has the sink

[00:52:00] And one room that has the toilet

[00:52:01] You know

[00:52:02] No

[00:52:03] It wouldn't be like that

[00:52:04] It would be like zoo for sale

[00:52:05] Yes

[00:52:06] There's a home you can live in

[00:52:07] Right

[00:52:08] You know but it's not like

[00:52:09] House for sale plus zoo

[00:52:11] Yeah

[00:52:12] No one ever sells a business

[00:52:13] By first selling you the place where

[00:52:15] You could live if you ran the business

[00:52:17] And then go like

[00:52:18] By the way you would also have to

[00:52:19] Operate

[00:52:20] Right

[00:52:21] And own a business

[00:52:22] Get all the necessary lights

[00:52:23] And it's like

[00:52:25] Okay

[00:52:26] If I went into a real estate place

[00:52:27] And I said

[00:52:28] Show me

[00:52:29] The money

[00:52:30] Show me the money

[00:52:31] And three bedroom homes you've got

[00:52:32] Yeah

[00:52:33] I would expect to be shown

[00:52:34] A bunch of three bedroom homes

[00:52:35] And if I was shown a zoo

[00:52:36] I'd say like

[00:52:37] This is zoo

[00:52:38] It should be in a different folder

[00:52:39] You know

[00:52:40] And like if I went into the real

[00:52:41] Estate and like

[00:52:42] Do you have any zoos?

[00:52:43] Yeah

[00:52:44] I'm looking for a zoo

[00:52:45] They might be like

[00:52:46] Yeah we have a zoo

[00:52:47] Like the smallest folder

[00:52:48] You ever saw

[00:52:49] You go online to

[00:52:50] StreetEasy.com

[00:52:51] Ideally I'm looking

[00:52:52] For a two bedroom

[00:52:53] Right

[00:52:54] Rent stabilized

[00:52:55] No zoos

[00:52:56] I've already got two

[00:52:57] I don't really need a third

[00:52:59] You gotta check that

[00:53:00] I swear to God

[00:53:01] This is a nice apartment

[00:53:02] It's a studio

[00:53:03] By the way it also comes

[00:53:04] With a hospital

[00:53:05] There's a whole staff

[00:53:06] Waiting here

[00:53:07] They've been lying dormant

[00:53:08] Right

[00:53:09] I won't tell you what happened

[00:53:10] To the last owner

[00:53:11] But here's the whole staff on board

[00:53:13] All the patients are in there

[00:53:15] Your joke is

[00:53:16] That's exactly the question

[00:53:17] So

[00:53:18] The way

[00:53:19] Then you cut to like

[00:53:20] A scene with him

[00:53:21] In Thomas Hayden church

[00:53:22] In a restaurant

[00:53:23] And he's like

[00:53:24] You know it's crazy

[00:53:25] It basically runs itself

[00:53:26] It makes 75% of its money

[00:53:27] During the summer

[00:53:28] And you know

[00:53:29] It's really a piece of cake

[00:53:30] Like he acts

[00:53:31] Like it's almost like

[00:53:32] Just a delightful little addition

[00:53:33] It's like having a kitchen note

[00:53:34] And you're telling love

[00:53:35] When she saw the house

[00:53:36] She likes the pickup

[00:53:37] But even before that

[00:53:38] They're pulling into the driveway

[00:53:39] And he goes

[00:53:40] Rosie take a picture

[00:53:41] She says why

[00:53:42] And goes this is where we're going to live

[00:53:43] But he just falls in love

[00:53:44] With the driveway

[00:53:45] And it's just

[00:53:47] It's

[00:53:48] I mean

[00:53:49] It's kind of

[00:53:50] In churches, like

[00:53:51] You know, you want to have

[00:53:52] A midlife breakdown

[00:53:53] You know by a boat

[00:53:54] You watch

[00:53:55] Knocked Up

[00:53:56] And you're like

[00:53:57] You know

[00:53:58] Maybe she should get an abortion

[00:54:00] She can't get an abortion

[00:54:01] The movie is about her being pregnant

[00:54:02] Like you know

[00:54:03] Like you watch we bought a zoo and you're like I don't think this guy is emotionally or financially equipped to buy a zoo

[00:54:09] But it's also like you're like well he kind of has to buy the zoo

[00:54:12] It's called we bought a zoo so that I understand that the movie can't spend too much time being like

[00:54:17] Showing him weighing whether or not to buy the zoo like he's gonna buy it's he's gonna buy the zoo

[00:54:22] But it also it does really he signs on quick

[00:54:26] It does feel like a weird storytelling decision when by all accounts it sounds like in real life Thomas me decided to buy a zoo

[00:54:32] Yeah, right and in this movie he falls in love with the house and it's like I guess if I gotta buy a zoo along with it

[00:54:37] I'll buy the zoo yeah, like you know like he bought a fan that came with like a free pen

[00:54:43] Yep, you know when they bundle a fan and a pen together

[00:54:48] By a product that comes with another product. I understand yeah another pack another product

[00:54:53] He buys the zoo he buys it where does he get the money for the zoo? Oh, we're not sure

[00:54:58] He sells his old house Tom St. Church does say the parents left inheritance. Yeah

[00:55:02] One is this is how you're gonna spend dad's inheritance. So so he he sinks some money into the zoo

[00:55:07] Yeah, he goes to the zoo. Yeah, the zoo is full of animals

[00:55:11] The zoo is on hates the zoo and it's on is onto the zoo

[00:55:14] And he's just like ha you love this zoo don't you and the kids like nope and he's like I knew you did anyway

[00:55:18] Let's move into the zoo now, but son's miserable. He gets kicked out of high school

[00:55:22] He's clearly not dealing well with the deaf is mother which would drawing disturbing art and stealing decapitation

[00:55:28] And he's stealing and they go this is the fourth strike one a three-strike policy

[00:55:32] Yeah, he the phone kind of sets up that it's like he's got no other choice

[00:55:36] Matt Damon clearly needs to get away right every shop and restaurant in this town makes him sad because of his dead wife

[00:55:41] Yeah, Rosie's gonna be happy making sandwiches wherever and she loves the peacocks

[00:55:44] Some needs a new school to go to they need to start fresh. Why not Occam's razor?

[00:55:49] Easiest answers usually the correct one by a zoo right there's no other option you got you gotta buy a

[00:55:55] Gotta buy that zoo yeah, so they buy the zoo so they do buy a zoo acquire the full staff and

[00:56:02] All the wacky animals the zoo like I said has somehow been sort of

[00:56:07] subsistence it's saying sustaining itself

[00:56:09] I guess not open to the public. I guess it might be part of the thing he says where it's like

[00:56:13] It's not the summer yet

[00:56:14] So it's still like kind of coasting off of previous years receipts. I don't know

[00:56:18] Do they ever explain what happened to the previous owner? No, right? It's full of animals

[00:56:23] Unlike the real zoo they don't really talk about how it like is dilapidated or anything

[00:56:28] Yeah, like they're already so Scarlett Johansson

[00:56:31] You know we should mention is in this movie. Well, yeah

[00:56:35] I mean what's important is you said that the zoo is full of animals and that's just the employees

[00:56:40] Boy, oh boy

[00:56:41] But no Scarlett Johansson plays Kelly the lead zookeeper and she's walking around is what I'm in and is like this zoo's incredible

[00:56:48] Is like revolutionary design I'm 28. I'm 28 years old look at this incredible zoo

[00:56:53] It was designed by this this wacky bearded guy played by Angus McFadden. Yeah, and

[00:56:59] But but she's basically like it's already great. It's already up to code, you know, it's the best

[00:57:06] And you're like okay. Well, where do we go from here?

[00:57:09] But he's not meeting her until after he's bought the place

[00:57:12] Yes

[00:57:12] Like it feels like maybe that scene should have been when he was on the fence out buying the zoo

[00:57:16] And he meets her and she's like look all I'm saying is you take over the zoo is the best

[00:57:20] We're ready to run this right

[00:57:23] You just sign the checks, right?

[00:57:25] But he meets her after the lease is signed

[00:57:29] He knows the deed he hasn't and they're basically like so what's your deal and he's like I bought a zoo

[00:57:33] Yeah, and they're like

[00:57:38] Yeah, but they're literally like what do you know about Susan?

[00:57:40] He's like they have animals like I mean there's nothing

[00:57:43] Calls him cages and she's like

[00:57:45] Enclosures very long time now is she mad about this some of the other employees Patrick Fuget our old buddy from almost famous

[00:57:53] Yeah, he's back. He plays

[00:57:55] Craftsman with a capuchin monkey on his shoulder called Robin played by Crystal the most famous monkey in Hollywood

[00:58:00] Sure, she's the one from like the thingy magic

[00:58:04] Hangover three an animal practice was that what it was called? Yeah

[00:58:07] That was the big deal well. She got paid like $80,000 in episode for animal practice

[00:58:11] She's Hollywood's top monkey

[00:58:13] You've got Carla Gallo as Rhonda who's like the bookkeeper also playing it real big

[00:58:20] She's playing it real big that is accurate

[00:58:22] And let me point out the actors in this film playing it big like JB smooth and John Michael Higgins and Carla Gallo

[00:58:27] I think are all great and would I like all you anything they're great in general things

[00:58:33] I agree

[00:58:34] I like all three of them a lot in general and they could I could see them be giving I

[00:58:39] Could see it world in which they're in the David Frankel version of the movie and you go there a highlight

[00:58:44] Yeah, but they're just the three of them and a couple others are in an entirely different movie. I

[00:58:49] Agree with you now then there's L fan

[00:58:52] Who plays Lily? Uh-huh who's like a homeschooled cousin of Scarlett Johansson's character?

[00:58:58] Yes, and she works at the restaurant

[00:59:00] But she also helps out under the table like they pay her cash

[00:59:03] Yeah, and she's homeschooled by Scarlett Johansson did they make that and she makes like neon signs

[00:59:10] Yeah, not explained at all now. I know neighbors

[00:59:13] I saw you saying on Twitter. Yeah that you like this performance

[00:59:16] It I think L Fanning is a wonderful actress the performance didn't particularly

[00:59:20] Totally work for me. Yeah, you seem to really like it. Yeah, I'm gonna talk about this for four and a half hours

[00:59:24] No, you're not you're gonna go for one minute

[00:59:27] L Fanning I think is great actress is one of our greatest living actors. I will say that I might sound

[00:59:32] I think she's a very promising actress who's given like now several great performances, right?

[00:59:38] I have never seen her give a performance that I didn't think was exceptional. Yeah

[00:59:42] Well, I would say I did and it was in the film we bought a zoo. I think she's incredible

[00:59:46] She's only okay. I don't think this is an incredible character. I think this movie speaks to her abilities

[00:59:50] She's great. I think

[00:59:52] She had been in somewhere the year before and then she was in super eight this the 2011 which she's fucking

[00:59:58] Yeah, and after that she's in I mean she's been kind of all over the place recently

[01:00:03] I mean the movie I site everyone the one movie. I mean she's not bad in it

[01:00:06] But I guess Maleficent's not like an exceptional performance

[01:00:09] But I think most of her performances. I think are really really see Trumbo

[01:00:13] Finanter, I mean she's better than it's written, you know, I mean she's certainly never given a bad performance

[01:00:18] I love her actress. I think she's I think she's enormously talented

[01:00:22] But and neon demon. She's really great and have not seen she's very good at playing a very different type of role

[01:00:28] but the film I always cite where I just like totally freaked out a

[01:00:34] Really shitty movie that I hate called Phoebe in Wonderland

[01:00:37] Haven't seen do I do know about this. It's a terrible film from the director of Beastly

[01:00:42] And it's about I took it because L Fanning

[01:00:45] I took my sister seat because L Fanning was one of the little kids in daddy daycare

[01:00:50] Which is very funny and it was my sister's favorite movie for a long time

[01:00:53] I took her to go see

[01:00:54] Phoebe in Wonderland and she plays like an eight-year-old with OCD and it's one of the best

[01:01:01] portrayals of like mental illness I've ever seen come an eight-year-old

[01:01:07] And it was very clear watching that like this isn't a coach performance like there's some innate ability here

[01:01:13] That's that's off the charts. I think she's very natural and I think in this movie

[01:01:16] It's so easy to see I think Matt Damon's son in the film is like totally fine. He just feels like a movie teenager, right?

[01:01:23] He's kind of grumpy and he's angsty

[01:01:26] On paper the character isn't that well-written and I think the kid is playing he's going through the motions

[01:01:31] I think L Fanning late in the film they summarize her character by Scrooge Henskoe

[01:01:35] It's like you're such a goofball and she is this girl who's homeschooled who lives on a zoo with her cousin

[01:01:42] And has sort of no social acumen especially not with any kids her own age

[01:01:45] She's very sincere very

[01:01:48] Akely sincere. She's a real country girl as

[01:01:51] Scarlett Johansson character kind of puts it yeah, and yeah, she's sweet

[01:01:56] I think it'd be very easy for an actress to come in and play this role and just go like okay

[01:02:00] So he's a girl who doesn't she's awkward sure and you just make it awkward and

[01:02:03] It's her lip a lot

[01:02:04] Yeah

[01:02:04] And sort of like an in quotes kind of obvious way and I think she as just one of these people who's very effortless and

[01:02:12] Very engaging on screen

[01:02:14] Plays it as like

[01:02:16] Someone who doesn't know that it's not cool to be really excited about everything, you know

[01:02:21] That's a good argument and I think it's one of the least cynical performances

[01:02:24] I've ever seen in a movie. I'm not saying that as like it's one of the best performances

[01:02:28] I've seen a movie but it's a certain quality that I don't think I've ever seen

[01:02:33] Done that well especially from a teenager who's gonna innately be very self-conscious as a person let alone as an actor

[01:02:38] Right

[01:02:39] She is so achingly open in the film and the scenes that emotionally work the best for me are the ones with her because it's like

[01:02:44] This dynamic of watching this boy who's incapable of expressing himself in this very broad strokes to rebuy the numbers way

[01:02:50] And this girl who cannot hide how she feels at all times right? I find very emotionally affecting

[01:02:54] I think it's a great performance from one of our finest living actors L fanning

[01:02:59] Okay, well there you go. There you go. Yeah, she's pretty good

[01:03:03] The romance with the with the guy doesn't work with the boy doesn't work for me at all the scene

[01:03:08] I just don't like that kid. I don't need a little ass. I don't either but the scene where he she tells him that she heard

[01:03:14] Oh, I hear your dad's thinking of selling the zoo and he hasn't heard it before and he gets so excited

[01:03:20] Right, and she's trying not to cry. Yeah. Yeah, she's good because he's not thinking about

[01:03:25] He clearly has a crush on her and he can't say it right. I don't like the boy

[01:03:29] I think that character is really badly handled. Yeah, he was in under the dome didn't like him in there

[01:03:34] Yeah

[01:03:35] Don't like him don't like him. They buy the zoo they buy the zoo they absorb this crazy family including Karen Kroes mother

[01:03:42] That's one thing about watching all the Cameron Crow movies. There she is right?

[01:03:45] She is wearing her little like sunflower right? It's basically silent, but she's hanging out

[01:03:50] I don't think they ever say who she is or what she does at the zoo

[01:03:52] But she definitely works there

[01:03:53] There's this moment at the end where he like kind of gathers the staff and he's giving his sort of speech

[01:03:57] And they're all like looking at him

[01:04:00] In between Peter you know Patrick Fugit and you know Scar Joe or whatever

[01:04:06] Another thing out about billing in this movie

[01:04:09] You know what why don't we're both? We both are fascinated by billing. Love billing. This movie has so many

[01:04:16] Single-card billings and the opening credits okay because in most movies you'll get like the eight main actors get their own

[01:04:22] Double up on the kids or whatever. Yeah, yeah

[01:04:24] But this film is like 12 to 15 people get single-card billing including like Peter Rieger

[01:04:30] Yeah, who plays the boss in one scene. He's in one scene. He's pretty good

[01:04:33] Yeah

[01:04:34] Yeah

[01:04:34] The building is like 15 people get their own spotlighted like and by the time they double up

[01:04:39] It's getting to like Cameron Crow's mom or like the Home Depot employee, you know right?

[01:04:44] Anyway, they buy the zoo he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing

[01:04:48] No, son is angry and he's daughter is delighted

[01:04:51] He doesn't know what he's doing the son's angry daughter's delighted

[01:04:54] He seems that he's like in the grip of like a nervous breakdown

[01:04:56] You know hidden churches just throwing fucking like you know sarcastic like

[01:05:01] Makes fun of him. Yeah, and

[01:05:04] You know there's all these animals

[01:05:07] And we meet them all he lovingly photographed. There's a bear. Yeah, there's a tiger. Yeah two tigers

[01:05:14] There's a lion. There's a bunch of other fucking animals

[01:05:18] peacocks

[01:05:20] He definitely photographed them lovingly this film was shot by Rodrigo Prieta who's a great cinematographer

[01:05:26] It's got a nice kind of Sun-trenched Instagram filter kind of little island in the sun

[01:05:31] Yeah, but it looks it's a nice looking movie. It's a nice looking movie. Oh, there's a porcupine

[01:05:37] Yeah that gets some some needles in a in Damon's hand

[01:05:43] And it's cute it's cute. There's like the film is then cute

[01:05:49] Antics and it kind of I admit I kind of drifted off like I mean in fall asleep, but I was just like

[01:05:55] Yeah, okay. Well, so now what's gonna happen is there's gonna be some animals stuff

[01:05:59] And then there's gonna be a problem and they're gonna have to fix it

[01:06:01] Child or like a devoted like animal lover who loves watching nature would be rated PG it must have been

[01:06:07] It's so harmless. It's one of the most airing. There's no sex

[01:06:11] It's I mean this is maybe the most basic movie ever made

[01:06:15] Right and it's a real dad it was a PG rated for some thematic elements. Yeah, including unlisted under violence

[01:06:24] Characters discuss the theft of a cash box a man throws dart at pick up darts a picture of someone he disliked porcupine needles in hand

[01:06:32] And so on

[01:06:35] You know, I mean there are a couple different tracks this movies work in simultaneously one is just like here the animals

[01:06:40] Here's the zoo. Here's all this stuff. Mm-hmm. That's the part I find Lisa interesting

[01:06:44] Right, but I'm sure that was the commercial hook that the movie is based around was like some people love animals

[01:06:48] We'll make money for animal lovers and it was in that Marley and me slot that like Christmas slot

[01:06:53] It came out Christmas 2011 and I think yeah, they were just like

[01:06:56] Here's a movie studio that have released that which was a day Frankel film

[01:07:00] It was placed into that mode and it's like here's a movie that the whole family may not want to see

[01:07:05] But they can at least agree on it because it won't offend any member of the family

[01:07:10] that you can cruise to some like insane

[01:07:13] Opening multiple multiple because of the Christmas corridor between Christmas and New Year's every day is a huge movie going Christmas in February

[01:07:20] Practically this movie is just gonna be hanging around

[01:07:23] But that idea that like every day is gonna be a ten million dollar day because you have families of 12

[01:07:27] And they all need to see something together and we bought a zoo might be the least objectionable thing that everyone can go fine

[01:07:32] I'm fine with seeing that and they see it and they go that was okay, and then they eat at five guys

[01:07:38] You know whatever absolutely. Yeah

[01:07:40] They go to David Buster's a Boston market

[01:07:43] Yeah, yeah, California pizza kitchen. Yes chilies to goes cheesecake factory. All right, so um

[01:07:51] That was okay. So the animal stuff is the thing I find the least interesting

[01:07:54] It's not interesting and so it's basically like Matt Damon's like

[01:07:58] So what's up with this one and Scott James is like well the problem with this animal is

[01:08:02] You know this problem and then he kind of learns how to deal with it

[01:08:06] But they're all pretty low stakes the bear escapings probably the biggest one the bear escapes and Matt Damon kind of chases down the bear

[01:08:12] And so then they're all like oh you're brave Matt Damon

[01:08:15] He holds his own against the bear and then they have to get a tiger off of a rock because the tiger is sick and old

[01:08:21] So they yell at it and and Damon's sad because he doesn't like to kill he doesn't like dying

[01:08:26] I keep on going you're gonna have to accept at some point

[01:08:28] We're gonna have to put the tiger down. He's like no god damn it my wife is dead

[01:08:32] Okay, so I was gonna say I didn't know if you picked up on that because that mirrors the fact that his wife died

[01:08:37] And he hasn't come to terms with that yet

[01:08:38] No, I didn't pick up on it until in that scene when they're all yelling at the tiger to get it to move

[01:08:44] They all stop yelling and he's still yelling and he's like I put my life on the line for this

[01:08:48] I'm not over this yet. You know like he's yeah

[01:08:51] That was what nudged it over the edge

[01:08:52] And he's also yelling at a son a little in that way because he goes I just want what's best for you

[01:08:56] Why don't you understand that? Yeah, um

[01:08:59] He bought a zoo so

[01:09:02] Oh god, do you knew about you followed the we bought a zoo with two zeros twitter account, right?

[01:09:08] That was bobby finger wasn't it was it? I think so. I think I was our friend bobby finger

[01:09:12] Great bobby finger. I'm sorry for mr. Trippin and bobby. I think you're right now. That was wonderful. You guys check it out

[01:09:18] It's very funny. I scrolled through it today. Yeah, so there's that track of the movie which I don't really care about

[01:09:22] Right, there's the element of it being sort of this like midlife crisis financial movie

[01:09:27] Yeah, but I don't like that either because it's I like it a little more than the animal stuff

[01:09:30] I'm gonna write the three elements. It's easy, but I like it a little more

[01:09:34] Uh-oh, you're sinking money into it and then there comes the moment where it's like you're out of money

[01:09:38] You have more money though. Do you want to put them more money?

[01:09:41] He suddenly seriously finds 85 thousand dollars and it's like oh, I guess i'll do

[01:09:45] Do you're gonna put the more money from your wife into the zoo? No, and he's like yeah

[01:09:50] That's a bad idea. I shouldn't do it. I'm gonna do it

[01:09:53] You know and like that's the extent of the decision

[01:09:56] Motherfucker bought a zoo at that point like when I doubled down. All right. You already bought the zoo

[01:10:00] Uh, yeah, but yeah, you know whatever I like i'm less interested in the financial elements of it than I am

[01:10:05] At that moment we're like ronda the carla gallo character freaks out and tells everyone like he's gonna sell the zoo

[01:10:09] And they're like are you gonna sell the zoo and he's like no i'm not gonna sell the zoo

[01:10:14] Yeah, and he's like it's over ronda enjoy moving to mexico. She's like i don't speak spanish

[01:10:18] Yeah, he tells ronda to go fuck herself

[01:10:21] And I can't believe that slipped by the mpaa. They gave it a pg. There's that scene where he just tells off ronda

[01:10:28] um

[01:10:30] So there's that element. I don't find that and then they feed her to the animals

[01:10:35] And and they're all just ritualistically while they feed her piece by piece very slow

[01:10:40] The film goes into real time for 45 minutes

[01:10:42] You watch the animals peel her flesh off like fucking string cheese and they just go fuck you

[01:10:49] Fuck you guys that actually doesn't happen in the film. Yeah, I know it happens after the credit correct

[01:10:54] Uh

[01:11:00] No, go ahead go ahead

[01:11:04] We bought a zoo yeah, we bought a zoo

[01:11:05] We didn't let's make it clear the characters in this film that yep

[01:11:08] Neither david nor I have ever bought a zoo true

[01:11:12] I cannot speak for ben I once worked at a zoo for one week. Did you really yes when I was eight years old

[01:11:18] I worked at the zuing age

[01:11:20] Rosie me is anything to go by I worked at the central park zoo in like some sort of uh, like

[01:11:25] You know kids it was like a summer kid program. It was like it was like kind of like a day camp

[01:11:29] Who are you playing the tiger the lion which I was assigned to the red panda

[01:11:33] Exhibit very fun red pandas are very cool

[01:11:36] Uh, uh ben never bought a zoo. Okay

[01:11:40] Good to know I was a little worried if you be fair ben feels like

[01:11:45] If you have if you have bought a zoo, please tweet it us hashtag. I bought a zoo at blank check pod. Thank you

[01:11:51] Thank you very much. Um, I don't find the financial element that interesting

[01:11:55] I do like the idea of because the movie sets this up

[01:11:58] But like tom sagan church is like you're doing this because you're going through a crisis your middle age

[01:12:03] You know your wife died you just quit your job

[01:12:06] Like don't commit to this and I kind of like the movie that's like him just going like

[01:12:10] Is this the dumbest fucking decision like too late to get out of it, you know

[01:12:14] I don't like the financial shit. I like the sort of internal struggle of him trying to figure out whether or not he's an idiot

[01:12:20] For having gotten into this thing. I think that works. Okay

[01:12:23] Then there's the main track to this movie that I think is pretty successful

[01:12:27] Which is a movie about grief. Mm-hmm. I think it's pretty successful

[01:12:32] I think it's more successful than elizabeth 100% so I I'll give it that this movie feels almost to me like

[01:12:40] And this is where I'd love to find out

[01:12:42] someday somehow

[01:12:43] If he added the dead wife element or if that was an aleem brush mccanon

[01:12:46] I would love to know because it would require me watching more about we bought a

[01:12:50] Yeah, which I don't really want to do the research

[01:12:52] But it does feel to me like that whole plot of the film

[01:12:55] Which is what the movie starts on and ends on and ends up being sort of the larger thematic theme of the movie

[01:13:02] Feels like a corrective to elizabeth town

[01:13:04] Yeah, and it feels like a much smarter portrayal of grief because elizabeth town is a guy who we're supposed to buy is

[01:13:11] Suicidal and is inconsolable. Yeah, but also just seems totally happy go lucky the entire time

[01:13:15] Right and this movie is about a guy who wants everyone to think that he's doing okay

[01:13:18] And isn't really addressing what's going on so you don't get sad sac mad daemon

[01:13:22] He's pretty fucking like functional the entire chipper

[01:13:24] It's just like almost too chipper like in the same way that the girl is almost too cute

[01:13:29] But that but I'd say his chipperness is like part of the it's baked into the cake of this film

[01:13:35] It's that's what he needs to overcome. You know and it's an okay cake

[01:13:38] It tastes like the grief stuff really works for me. I will say that so you like the frosting

[01:13:43] And the rest of it's okay, and then you know the other thing is you're a real sad miserable bastard

[01:13:49] bastard and you know

[01:13:51] The sentimental bone in my body

[01:13:53] I think is a pretty direct carbon copy of the one of the sentimental bones in cameron crow's body

[01:13:59] I think you know, I try to avoid like super like

[01:14:03] Tricly kind of manipulative bullshit

[01:14:06] But cameron crow's sentimentality even when it's overcooked just goes down for me. It's it's a wavelength. I am on

[01:14:13] That's the whole thing with him. You're either into that or you aren't yeah, I'm okay with it

[01:14:18] Yeah, I just think I like the way this movie deals with grief. I like that's not overwrought

[01:14:22] I think anytime the movie tries to too directly

[01:14:25] Mary the zoo stuff to the grief stuff like him yelling at the tiger. It kind of falls apart

[01:14:29] Yes

[01:14:30] So this movie for me is like I go back scene by scene going like what the fuck is this and then being like this seems really getting

[01:14:35] This seems pretty good. Yeah, it seems pretty well observed. Uh, yeah

[01:14:39] So cat's devin don't be shy. That's what the song is called. Don't be shy

[01:14:42] Don't think twice don't think twice is a great movie. Have you seen it? No by the time this episode's release

[01:14:48] I'm sure I'll see it really good. Um starring former guest friend of the show chris cathard

[01:14:53] Yeah, and starring a future guest uh and future friend of the show keegan michael key

[01:14:57] Yeah, and future friend of the show gillian jacobs. Yeah, we're gonna get all of them one. Yeah, uh

[01:15:01] So, you know, what have we somehow made that our mission to get the the cast of don't think toy

[01:15:05] Kind of ralph's also in that film right? He is yeah, he was been on the show

[01:15:09] He has I was an intern for burbigula in college

[01:15:12] Uh, I've had one terrible interaction with the regalia, which I will not share on this podcast because it'll take too much time

[01:15:17] Yeah, please don't I behaved poorly and made a real fool of myself

[01:15:22] Sounds great. I had two interactions. One was really nice in the second one. I burned my breath. Anyway, um, so

[01:15:27] The film

[01:15:29] has the nominal

[01:15:31] climactic

[01:15:33] Sort of sequence in which they need to get the zoo up to code so it can pass the inspection

[01:15:38] We'll spend no time on this john michael higgins has a tape measure that's electronic and it's like it's like a wiwi

[01:15:43] It's like a wiwi that's getting a boner. I'm excited for some reason. What what is his name griffin?

[01:15:49] What's his name bad zoo boy? Oh bad zoo boy. I'm sorry

[01:15:52] He's a bad zoo inspector and I am so sorry

[01:15:56] Apollod my most profound apology. Thank you guys, okay

[01:16:00] You could tell that he's a badass. He plays by his own rules

[01:16:03] Yeah, and he hates the scottish guy and they fight whatever that's going on

[01:16:07] There's a scene where they go to home depot and he uses the credit card

[01:16:10] It's a cute scene and she's like I love that zoo and the credit card's like chipped and he's like

[01:16:14] I'm sorry. I've been maxing it out and she's like no you work for the

[01:16:17] That zoo I love that zoo is that coming back and you see that people online

[01:16:19] It's like this idea that people have just been waiting a year for the zoo to open

[01:16:23] But they never really talked about there's like that moment. There's no no and then later in the film

[01:16:26] She's like we've been flyer ink 7 7 we're opening 7 7 and then it just rains for a month

[01:16:31] No, no, no, no, no you're getting it wrong. Okay, so here's yeah

[01:16:34] This is how they deal with the promotion the zoo you're correct about this

[01:16:37] He discovers that his son's a great artist or he

[01:16:40] remembers this yeah, and he takes a picture of the sun

[01:16:42] The sun did have a tiger that they had to put down I watched this last night

[01:16:45] I already entirely forgot they put it on the poster and that's what gets the sun into the zoo

[01:16:49] You know then they flyer you don't see the flyer, but that's you know

[01:16:53] And then it rains before the zoo's gonna open the day before and like the weather

[01:16:58] The weather reports like it's gonna rain forever, which is not really a weather report

[01:17:03] It says I wrote it down. This is gonna be the wettest summer in a hundred years

[01:17:08] Oh, yeah, yeah, and then he wakes up the morning of and it's not raining few great

[01:17:13] But then no one shows up to the zoo. Oh, no

[01:17:16] And but then they go and check a tree fell on the road. Oh, no, they step over the tree behind the tree

[01:17:23] It's like it's a line for the new fucking iphone dropping and people park their cars

[01:17:28] They're out on the street

[01:17:35] It's so fucking dumb and he goes come on in and they all have to climb over the tree

[01:17:39] Like it's an adventure because life's an adventure david and then it's like and and

[01:17:43] Segar Rose who did the music uh, John C or whatever a couple original songs

[01:17:47] He's got he's got you got a that's segar rose song building on the soundtrack and you've got

[01:17:57] This is only like two years after slumdog three years

[01:18:01] Which used that song and as like their big climatic thing this movie uses the song three times in a row

[01:18:06] They like started it fades out and then 30 seconds later. They'll start the song over again from the beginning

[01:18:12] And I think we're supposed to assume that it was a mix of sentimentality and that great fucking tiger picture

[01:18:18] So fucking good that somehow got record numbers to go to the home depot woman

[01:18:24] You have to imagine for last month every customer. She's just coming back seven seven

[01:18:28] That's who you like is gonna come back and stop

[01:18:30] As long as the bad zoo boy doesn't shut him down

[01:18:33] Uh-oh watch out and he almost does he's about to yeah, he's hovering over the

[01:18:37] Yeah, he's like he's like moving his pen

[01:18:40] Yeah between like don't open zoo and open zoo and then the daughter's like mister

[01:18:45] Everyone says you're a dick, but I don't think you are whatever it means cc really toe in that pg line

[01:18:52] I don't think it's gonna work

[01:18:54] For you to open the zoo

[01:18:56] It's like the most annoying shit in the world you'd think Cameron Crow would but I guess he's just like let's lean into this

[01:19:02] He's just trying to give him a cause line movie

[01:19:05] Cameron Crow's trying to get back on base, you know

[01:19:07] He hasn't even bat up to bat in a while and his last time was a strike out

[01:19:11] He wants to get on base so it feels like there are some concessions in this movie

[01:19:16] But within it is a corrective of maybe this is a better way to make a movie about grief

[01:19:20] You know Mary with some things that might work in a more conventional way

[01:19:24] It's like we like it's a it's the more conventional way. Yeah

[01:19:28] And look America bought a ticket this film did pretty well

[01:19:33] Um, it did well, we'll get to that. Yeah, okay, but

[01:19:36] Hey, bodice

[01:19:37] So two other things happen. Yeah one he kisses scarlett Johansson out of nowhere in the shed about her character

[01:19:44] Because it's my least favorite character. I mean, I mean she's sort of no nonchance. She's a zoo nerd

[01:19:48] She's a zoo nerd late. Yeah, she likes zoos. She's 28. Yes when she shot this film

[01:19:52] She was 26 this sounds right character

[01:19:55] I remember Amy Adams being in talks or at least in contention for this role and then I think she

[01:20:01] Turned down do the Muppets instead. This film would make a lot more sense with Amy Adams

[01:20:05] You could see the L fan and character being a daughter rather than a cousin

[01:20:10] you know or a niece

[01:20:12] um

[01:20:13] And also

[01:20:14] In a film there's a part early in the movie where Thomas Hayden Church is like

[01:20:18] Why don't you ask out that one woman who gave you the lasagna?

[01:20:20] She was a looker and he goes I don't even know what a looker is is that what it is these days

[01:20:23] Yeah, and he's like because I had the real thing that's a thing

[01:20:26] He said it's tough for me to even know because I had the real thing and it's like his wife in this movie is by all accounts

[01:20:31] Was the greatest person who ever lived right everyone who met her was so thoroughly charming by her

[01:20:35] He was drop dead gorgeous for him to then after so much resistance to all these housewives

[01:20:42] And uh single mothers at the kids school at the beginning of the movie who were all just throwing their lasagna and their

[01:20:47] Genitals at him to then fall in love with the 28 year old who okay? I understand extreme circumstances. She's beautiful

[01:20:53] She looks gorgeous. You're working together in an enclave where you barely see anybody else, right?

[01:20:57] You know but he doesn't fall in love with her

[01:21:00] No, but it's they have crushes on each other. Yeah, and it's just like you should know better than that

[01:21:03] Like you're resisting going on dates with anybody. She's 28. This is not going to be a good lasting thing

[01:21:07] You're harming the business. All right. All right. She's your head zoo keeper

[01:21:10] All right. Well look one I kind of agree with you. You almost wish it just like they have that one scene earlier where she's like

[01:21:17] They both like we're not gonna act

[01:21:19] Very beautiful woman

[01:21:21] I'm totally in my head if you did she goes and it's a good Cameron Crow line. She says also if I want to kiss you

[01:21:27] Right, it would never it would whatever it is. Yeah

[01:21:30] And then it just maybe it was a network note or maybe Cameron Crowe just likes kissing

[01:21:34] But you know, it's just like well, you know what let's have let's have make out a little and say like hey

[01:21:38] Maybe we'll keep doing this, you know, it's all very cash. It's very cash

[01:21:42] I would like this movie 10% more if it didn't happen

[01:21:45] I would a commend this movie for not forcing them into any sort of romantic relationship and just making it a movie about a

[01:21:51] Man and a woman who worked together and respect each other

[01:21:53] And even if it was just the scene where he's like you're attracted

[01:21:56] But we're never gonna act upon it would be nice because you're acknowledging that they're both

[01:21:59] Beautiful movie stars charismatic and they would obviously want to fuck each other, right?

[01:22:03] but uh, I just you know, I like that they hold it back and they just make it

[01:22:06] Oh make out next Tuesday you want to make out some more

[01:22:09] But like you don't fucking need to do it. It makes me uncomfortable because she's so young

[01:22:13] She's playing older than she is and the age she's playing is still too young for him

[01:22:18] Especially someone who is such a fucking dad in this movie and is it's such a different point in his life

[01:22:23] Right, and I just it makes me worried about the future of the business because that breakup's gonna be tough

[01:22:26] Or even if there's just a point where it's like maybe let's not make out so much

[01:22:29] I mean what's what's gonna fucking happen then, you know

[01:22:32] Um

[01:22:34] She's finding this movie the next year Avengers comes out and her career suddenly starts making sense again

[01:22:39] She rebounds really hard. That's the thing. She was in such an odd spot and she's just about to pull out of it. Yeah. Yeah, anyway

[01:22:46] um

[01:22:48] They make but that's not that so that's the one thing. Yes, but then the other thing

[01:22:52] Is that he finally gets the courage after the zoo's a huge success to go into

[01:22:59] The restaurant that he met his wife yet. It's the final scene in the movie. It's the best scene

[01:23:04] It is the best scene. I told you because you watched this movie in like two halves

[01:23:07] Yeah, I watched the first hour of it took a little break

[01:23:10] And you were like you're right. It's pretty charming and I was like get ready for the fucking ending because Cameron Crowe sticks the landing

[01:23:15] The 20 seconds of insane courage which he says to the sun when he can tell it earlier

[01:23:19] Right because he's like I know you fucking like L fanning and now she thinks you're an asshole

[01:23:23] You're not doing anything to fix it and he says a thing

[01:23:26] I've said to many people drunkenly when I'm trying to encourage them to say stuff

[01:23:29] I quote we bought a zoo right and I'm like I'm telling you all you need is 20 seconds of incredible courage

[01:23:35] And I promise you amazing things can happen blind stupid courage or whatever he says

[01:23:40] uh, I think I think it's a pretty good Cameron Crowe line and um, he shows the

[01:23:46] He brings the kids into the restaurant

[01:23:48] And you're like what's going on? Where's this film going because they open the zoo?

[01:23:51] It's a big success. Everything's great. Everyone's happy right and I got a little choked up just because

[01:23:58] I mean they did it, you know, they did it these crazy fuckers they

[01:24:02] I mean kind of like we were on a zoo when we were talking about you know

[01:24:06] The movies where it's like you can't do it. They did it. He's like though

[01:24:10] They said it couldn't be done. They said it couldn't be done. I said those dogs couldn't run that hotel

[01:24:14] They said maybe a motel

[01:24:16] No, they wanted a hotel a hotel a holiday and no

[01:24:21] Uh, I just I watched this movie and as much as I don't care about the zoo subplot or or main plot rather the zoo elements of this film

[01:24:29] uh

[01:24:30] That crazy bastard did it. He fucking pulled it off. He fucking bought a zoo when he ran a zoo when he opened a zoo

[01:24:35] Now he's gonna finally confront the ghosts of his wife

[01:24:39] literally

[01:24:41] I love this played by uh, what's her name? Stephanie?

[01:24:44] Sozak, I think it's pronounced sozak something like I have the pronounciate show stack

[01:24:49] Stephanie show stack who is dinner or schmucks and iron man three a french actress. She's in iron man three. She was in the uh

[01:24:56] The show satisfaction which I believe uh aired on usa for I like her a lot as an actress

[01:25:00] I feel like she has not been given enough to do in any american film, but I think she's uh, she's good

[01:25:05] I think she's good. It's such a cheesy scene. It's so incredibly cheesy

[01:25:10] It does work. He I mean this is it what he does. Well, I would say it

[01:25:15] If you could if I wanted to criticize it

[01:25:17] I would say it's kind of sticks out like a sore thumb a little bit at the end of the movie

[01:25:20] He didn't feel like it was building up that because it's half the movie's about a zoo

[01:25:23] Yeah, it's mostly about a zoo, you know and then it's then he's like, okay kids

[01:25:27] And so but Damon it does a good job

[01:25:30] He goes I'm gonna show you how I met your mom and he brings him in and he's sitting right there

[01:25:34] And I'm I'm wait a second

[01:25:36] He like runs out and he's like I'm walking down the street

[01:25:38] But the kids look over and they see the mom well that's after he comes back in

[01:25:42] Yeah, and he goes 20 seconds on the clock right right

[01:25:44] And then the kids see the mom the movie like stops for a second and then they go

[01:25:48] Hi mom, which is beautiful

[01:25:49] But it's like he's made the moment so vivid to them that they can see her there

[01:25:53] Right, and he goes okay, so I have 15 seconds on the clock still and I'm wondering what do I even say?

[01:25:58] And so I say excuse me

[01:26:00] And then I think that's when there's the long pause and the kids see the mother right

[01:26:03] Yes, and I say hi mom and you're wondering what he's gonna say

[01:26:08] Do you have the line exactly? I don't have it exactly

[01:26:10] It's something like we bought a zoo

[01:26:14] Cut to credits I filmed my camera excuse me. We bought a zoo

[01:26:24] He says something along the lines of

[01:26:26] Why would an incredible fascinating beautiful woman like you ever talk to an idiot like me right

[01:26:32] And she's and the last time the film is why no comes alive or says why not and the kids

[01:26:37] And he and they all sit there and they stop ignoring what happened and they right except that they love their mother

[01:26:44] The end beautiful good good and I'm stopping it works for me. It does it does

[01:26:50] I think it's easy to make fun, but it works for me. I think so too

[01:26:52] But look dude, I mean all of Cameron crow's easy to make fun. It's easy to make fun of the boombox over the head

[01:26:56] I'm not saying this is as good

[01:26:58] It is but like when he's at his best it's this part on your sleeve like yeah on its face

[01:27:02] This is ridiculous and it's so fucking

[01:27:05] Yeah, I'm like you know openly aggressively violently emotional

[01:27:10] But the speaks to some kind of truth and there's some moments like that

[01:27:12] There's a moment I like where he's on the laptop looking through the pictures of the wife

[01:27:15] And you're looking through the still photos and I'll say big pepiva mine

[01:27:19] Is movies with badly doctored photos of actors. Yeah, but those are great. Oh, they're really well done

[01:27:24] There's one that looks a little off, but they're basically great. Yeah, and it's like

[01:27:28] I mean, I think it's mostly her pictures or his pictures and like, you know

[01:27:32] But there's a couple of them together clearly both as 25 year olds

[01:27:36] No, they're good

[01:27:37] And it's like really well done and he's going through the photos and then one of them sort of comes to life

[01:27:42] And not like a crazy like fucking just turns away

[01:27:45] But it's still photo and she opens her eyes and she turns to look at him

[01:27:48] And it's just like, you know, he cries sitting alone on the floor and he doesn't overdo it

[01:27:53] You know, I just think it's a pretty good movie about just like grieving takes time

[01:27:57] It's a pretty good movie about grieving takes time. It's an okay movie about buying a zoo

[01:28:03] Yeah

[01:28:03] And it exists in the world and you can see it anytime if you want to

[01:28:07] It's a low key charmer. I recommend if you have nothing else to do

[01:28:10] I really don't think that any child would like it except for the animal

[01:28:14] Oh kids who love animals would like it

[01:28:16] They'd like the animal stuff

[01:28:18] What about the expanded universe?

[01:28:20] You mean the expanded zoo universe?

[01:28:23] Yes

[01:28:24] You're talking spin-off films?

[01:28:25] Yeah, well like what about a prequel, uh, you know, they sold the zoo

[01:28:30] Be a good sequel

[01:28:32] They were forced into prequel sequel

[01:28:35] We talk about spin-offs. I mean we bought a ticket for the zoo

[01:28:39] You could make a separate film about everyone who has ever gone to the zoo as a customer

[01:28:42] Let's play the box office game. Okay. This film came out

[01:28:47] in December

[01:28:48] Uh, christmas time four day weekend, uh, december 23rd 2011

[01:28:53] It opened at number six

[01:28:56] Yeah, it didn't open well, but it multiplied well with 14

[01:28:59] 15 million over the long weekend it multiplied to 75 mil. It's pretty decent pretty solid

[01:29:05] domestic uh, I think the movie only cost 40 or 50 made 50 cost 50 50 to make it made 120 worldwide

[01:29:12] Not a big hit by any means. I think it probably did well in home video

[01:29:15] That's a solid on base double, you know fine. Yeah

[01:29:19] I would say it's a single I'd say it's a double

[01:29:22] But do you want to guess what the top five films of that's that weekend and christmas were?

[01:29:28] 2011 okay, so I gotta I gotta place my I'm trying to think what the big christmas blockbuster was in 2011 so 2011

[01:29:35] is uh, I'm thinking of other family movies uh, hugo came out that year, but it had come out a month earlier

[01:29:40] That came out thanks. Yeah, hugo is down at number 12. Muppets came out in thanksgiving. Muppets is down at number 11

[01:29:45] Uh, did disney have a big christmas release? Um

[01:29:48] You know not really no

[01:29:53] They had they have a film that they have war horse which opened at number seven

[01:29:57] Okay, and the Muppets is technically disney right and and tinton is still in the top town

[01:30:01] Tintin is number five and opens that week. Okay with 23 million dollars

[01:30:06] Uh, one of my picks for one of the most underrated films of the deck one day. We're gonna do an episode about it

[01:30:11] I love tentin. Yeah, we're gonna do any series number five. Okay number five. All right number four

[01:30:15] Is it we'll do up ascending. Yeah number four is a film that also had come out that week that was expected to be really big

[01:30:22] But was a disappointment. We did fine. It opened to 27

[01:30:25] I think it cleared about 100 total live action or anime live action are rated very dark

[01:30:31] There's a very dark film adaptation

[01:30:35] Oh the girl with the dragon tattoo. That's right. Yes, which I also think is an underrated movie

[01:30:40] And is a film that like squeak to a hundred people thought it was gonna be like they thought it was gonna be a franchise starter

[01:30:44] But I think people were getting a little sick at the girl with the dragon tattoo

[01:30:47] You know if you to come out a couple years earlier and there wasn't already a fucking Swedish movie

[01:30:51] Yeah, yeah, and as much as like they got a lot of juice out of like the joke of like, whoa

[01:30:56] It's the feel bad movie of christmas time. I think that was a bad time to release terrible time

[01:31:00] No, they were really it's the opposite of we bought a zoo

[01:31:03] No family is gonna want to see that together and this is the time of the year where like

[01:31:06] Your personal movie going choices are probably thrown out the door to appease

[01:31:09] I think they're going for the other family approach, which is let's all go to the multiplex

[01:31:13] You guys will go see the film that's number three

[01:31:16] Yeah in the box office, which you're gonna have to guess in a second and you you know mom and daughter go see we bought a zoo

[01:31:22] And I'm gonna go see go with the dragon tattoo

[01:31:24] So you know what I think their actual approach was well. I think that was their intended goal

[01:31:29] I think what actually happened at the box office for them was and I didn't mean to be so gendered

[01:31:33] I know, but you know, I'm just it's this is how the studios think

[01:31:36] I think what actually happened was the only people who went to see the movie were people who don't talk to their families

[01:31:41] You know, we're just like I'm gonna go see what I want to see

[01:31:43] I went to see it with like a bunch of friends who all like the book

[01:31:47] I saw which on goal, but you and I see five movies a week

[01:31:49] I'm saying like true. I think that's why the film underperforms to some degree number three

[01:31:53] It's a film that you probably could be able to fucking talk about

[01:31:57] Oh boy with such disdain you say is it a children's picture?

[01:32:01] Yes, it is second weekend and it has now made 56 million

[01:32:05] Dollars at the box office. It eventually makes 133 and 340 million total worldwide

[01:32:12] Interesting is animated or live action

[01:32:15] It is a mix of the two

[01:32:18] Well, see I think you're assuming I was gonna guess this was in the 10 at number three actually preemptively

[01:32:23] You're assuming I've seen this one. I have not oh, you haven't seen this one

[01:32:26] I believe it is out on the chipmunks chipre act

[01:32:27] That's correct. I have only seen one in four because I hated the first film

[01:32:31] And I only came back on board because my boy Walt Becker had taken the brains

[01:32:35] I had a feeling this who directed chiprect

[01:32:37] Who was that? Oh, I can tell you exactly who it is. Do you have it there? I do a mic metrol? Yeah

[01:32:42] Yes, that's correct. I can tell you all four directors. Yes, which is one of my favorite movies

[01:32:46] Uh first film was directed by tim hill. I believe who directed Muppets from space

[01:32:49] Second film was directed by betty thomas

[01:32:52] Who was a cast member on hill street blues

[01:32:54] That's that's road chip and then went on to direct uh dr. Do little and uh, I spy

[01:32:59] Oh, okay sure a bunch of eddie murphy comedies right and then of course, uh the

[01:33:03] og wallpacker

[01:33:06] The original garbage filmmaker

[01:33:09] Yeah, anyway, okay, that's number three at the box ups number two

[01:33:12] Number two is a sequel. I have never seen it. I did see the first film

[01:33:17] Uh, it it's it's in its second week of release. You know like comes game of shadows. Yeah, yeah

[01:33:21] Never seen it. So this is how this one people like it

[01:33:24] Yeah, I've only seen the last 10 minutes on tv and thought it was better than I thought it would be because I don't like the first

[01:33:28] I barely remember the first one. I mean, I remember when the first came out one came out

[01:33:32] We were all just like robert downey jr. We love him. We love him. You know, we're gonna see it

[01:33:36] Yeah, and then we saw it. We were like, hey good score

[01:33:39] I'll say the score is great for that movie. Great. Uh, that is the only movie where uh,

[01:33:45] I just openly checked my emails in the middle

[01:33:48] I turned my phone off at the beginning of every movie. It was the early days of smartphones, you know

[01:33:51] No, but even then I just was like, I'm so uninterested. I would rather see because I'm waiting on a couple big emails

[01:33:56] Um, jared harris plays more already in the second film and he's a great actor

[01:34:00] So I remember watching the last 10 minutes and being like, oh this already seems more engaging because he's doing some some interesting work

[01:34:06] Um, the original alvin and the original sure like we're also released the same weekend

[01:34:09] Which is why I was trying to guess those two parts. Yeah, and they both made lots of money as did this two sequels

[01:34:15] Number one is maybe my favorite action film of the decade

[01:34:19] And probably one of my favorite action films of all time mission possible gross

[01:34:24] Mission impossible ghost proto calls one of the one of the best

[01:34:28] American films of the of the 2010s. I prefer rogue nation

[01:34:33] I love rogue nation, but nothing beats ghost pro for me. It's all about rogue nation

[01:34:37] Mission impossible ghost protocol is one of the only movies in my life that I have actively

[01:34:42] Like gasped during like out loud. Yeah, I mean yes that in utah and i max right? Yeah, that sequence is unbelievable

[01:34:50] Um, it's the best

[01:34:52] It's like a ballet film. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen

[01:34:55] I think rogue nation hangs together better as a movie even the ghost protocol has better set pieces

[01:35:00] um

[01:35:03] You know what mission possible great that franchise could work as a mini series

[01:35:06] It's 100 of blank check every single one is a blank check

[01:35:09] You've got the first one's writing the checks, but yeah first one where cruises writing his own check

[01:35:14] Yeah, and caching it with a crazy director. Yeah the second one, which is the fucking worst

[01:35:20] Yeah, which I saw three times in years at the time. Whoa is the director at his peak

[01:35:24] Certainly being like the most like him the most is coming out like here. He's getting the full

[01:35:31] Yeah, humongous

[01:35:32] And then the third one in retrospect is great, but at the time it was like people were like, what the fuck is this big financial disappointment?

[01:35:39] Why are they getting a tv guy?

[01:35:41] He'd been in production for years and karnahan was supposed to make it. Oh he dropped out like three weeks before

[01:35:46] Performing started and they threw out the script jj abram's that guy does tv

[01:35:49] Why don't you let him take over a franchise? Right?

[01:35:51] And then the ghost pro and then rogue nation

[01:35:54] Oh good and christian mccart. Yeah, I'd love to do a man's stage maybe when six comes out we'll do a retrospective

[01:35:59] Yeah, am I

[01:36:02] Mission impossible podcast

[01:36:05] and

[01:36:07] Okay, potable so war horses up there new year's eve is still in there

[01:36:11] Oh new year's eve razor glass

[01:36:13] The descendants is hanging out at the bottom you were tweeting about mathy littleard yesterday and how good he is

[01:36:18] Isn't it? He is very good. He's better in scooby-doo, but yeah, he's also excellent in the

[01:36:23] FX tv show the bridge. Oh really really good. I know that was his post

[01:36:27] I want him in big screen. I want him in pictures

[01:36:30] That's you

[01:36:31] David's making a constipated face was a pretty good impression because i'm usually holding in a shit

[01:36:35] This film is ranked number five in the family

[01:36:38] Animal brackets live action section on box office mojo behind eight below snow dogs

[01:36:45] Dr. Doodle

[01:36:45] Free willy and march of the penguin. Oh not sure why dr. Doodle isn't on this list

[01:36:49] Can I uh sidebar for a second? I uh

[01:36:53] You know just moved had to go through all my belongings. I went through a box

[01:36:57] This was a box that I had moved from my childhood bedroom

[01:37:01] To my old apartment and now was going through for the new apartment to try to like throw out stuff and you know lose lose weight in the move

[01:37:08] I apparently for some fucking reason owned a complete collection of free willy two trading cards

[01:37:14] I don't remember seeing that free willy two the rescue. Is that what it's called? Yes, I think or the journey home

[01:37:21] I think you're right. I think free three might be the wet rest the rescue the rescue

[01:37:25] I swear to god. I don't the adventure home. I don't think i've seen free willy two. I owned every single trading card

[01:37:31] I saw the first one in theaters. I thought it was okay. I saw the first one in theaters

[01:37:35] Love David. Why did I own every one? They were like the enumerated like the cards told the story of the film

[01:37:40] And I had literally every one

[01:37:42] Da

[01:37:45] Da

[01:37:46] Anyway, you know they bought the zoo that's that's the real take away fuckers did a quick merch spotlight. Oh, yeah

[01:37:54] Did you buy a zoo? Yeah. Yeah zoo for sale

[01:37:57] Fuck yeah, that was my joke. Oh shit. I'm sorry

[01:38:01] We owe you a merchandise spotlight zoo

[01:38:04] You buy a zoo

[01:38:05] Ben ben i'm gonna make you a deal

[01:38:07] What's up david ozu 10 comedy points

[01:38:10] So at some point in the future if you make a joke that doesn't land because david just stole your joke

[01:38:16] You can ask david to gift you 10 comedy points

[01:38:19] A joke that you feel deserved better. Can I get fair enough bits and pieces?

[01:38:22] So I have to get it just in one shot. Oh, I like that you can divide your points

[01:38:27] However, you like good call right so if you want a couple, you know, yeah

[01:38:33] So we're done with we bought a zoo. Uh, yeah, we we bought it. We bought it next week. We're gonna do aloha

[01:38:38] Yeah

[01:38:40] So this is the thing, you know, it's so funny. It's like crow

[01:38:44] Gets away from maybe being a little too crowy makes a pretty formula movie back on base. He just got his sea legs back

[01:38:51] It's it does fine

[01:38:53] And he's like great now I can make my movie about the militarization of space here we go

[01:38:57] You know like he swirves right back out of the out of the skin

[01:39:00] Remember that movie that people didn't want me to make for almost a decade that movie that kept falling apart

[01:39:05] Almost as if it's cursed

[01:39:07] Right, huh?

[01:39:08] Anyway, I think I'm a star to be a great asian lady despite having some of those popular stars in hollywood people don't want to make it

[01:39:14] Well, let me get now the most popular stars in hollywood and try to make it again

[01:39:19] Anyway aloha that's gonna be fascinating. Yeah

[01:39:22] Uh, we bought the zoo and that's great. That's great. How you guys doing uh, I'm doing well

[01:39:27] I have a segment

[01:39:29] Closing segment. I want to I want to throw out here. This is a new segment

[01:39:32] It's going to be a recurring segment for you know the rest of uh, at least this mini series

[01:39:36] Yes, it's called

[01:39:39] Da da da da da da da

[01:39:43] Tips for watching the tick pilot on amazon

[01:39:46] Go ahead in the window between august 19th and september 19

[01:39:49] Oh, it's only a month. Yes. Well, that's that's why i'm gonna start the segment and then they pull it off

[01:39:54] Yes, I'm gonna start the segment to answer some commonly asked questions and give you tips for how your view

[01:40:01] can make

[01:40:03] The biggest impact for me right okay

[01:40:06] Amazon's pilot season is that they put these pilots up online

[01:40:10] And they gauge

[01:40:12] You know, they lick their finger they hold it up to the wind and they take the temperature and they go

[01:40:15] Do people want more of these?

[01:40:17] Uh, and uh, you know if people want more of this then I have a job

[01:40:22] Right, so you want that to be picked up very badly

[01:40:25] Understood. Yes. Uh, and not just any job my dream job and a project

[01:40:30] I love a character that is near and dear to me. I grew up loving I am now

[01:40:34] Very personally attached to want to continue doing. Um, so

[01:40:39] People have asked a lot

[01:40:40] Uh, how do I watch it? Where do I watch it? When do I watch it?

[01:40:43] Uh, what is it voting all of this? So I just want to you know, just pump into the public consciousness

[01:40:48] Week by week remind them that the thing's happening because there is this 30 day window. So it goes online august 19th on september 19th

[01:40:55] It will be pulled because what amazon likes to do is if they pick the show up

[01:41:01] When they film the season they retool the pilot a little so the thing is a little more cohesive

[01:41:06] Season-wide so you have a 30 day window to watch it

[01:41:10] Do you need to have amazon prime to watch it? No

[01:41:14] Anyone can go onto the homepage and watch the show, but david this is very

[01:41:19] Very important. Yes. This has been imparted to me by my boss ban edlund

[01:41:24] Who apparently heard this from higher ups at amazon

[01:41:28] If you start watching the show

[01:41:30] And then you go, oh fuck dinner plans

[01:41:33] And you pause it and you go out and then later you come back home and you watch the whole thing

[01:41:40] Well

[01:41:41] Amazon's computer system is gonna look at that like oh you gave up on the show. Okay, you were kind of bored

[01:41:45] So be ready to vote a half hour. Yes, and and this is big

[01:41:50] We're not talking one of these fucking netflix not these 65 minute. Yeah

[01:41:54] This ain't no get down get the fuck out of here amazon's going wham

[01:41:58] Bam. Thank you ma'am or sir

[01:42:01] Yes, uh

[01:42:03] This this is a 30 minute pilot

[01:42:06] a straight shot of tick

[01:42:08] But you gotta you got to carve out a window that was great

[01:42:11] That's my tip for this week when you watch the pilot make sure you have 30 minutes and you can watch it to the end

[01:42:16] To the last credits we got it great and this segment will become back every week and people are gonna love it

[01:42:21] When they hear this segment they're gonna go

[01:42:24] Oh, this is so funny. This is the funniest part of this podcast. Yes

[01:42:29] Um cool

[01:42:34] That's the end of that segment

[01:42:36] Uh, thank you all for listening

[01:42:39] Mm-hmm, uh, please uh rate review. Wait, you don't have a burger report

[01:42:43] No

[01:42:45] No, I don't I don't have one I went to comic con. I desperately looked

[01:42:50] I couldn't find any any

[01:42:52] whatsoever. Sure. I saw on a gas nair in a

[01:42:55] In an airport. I once saw it on a gas nair eat a burger, but this was before the podcast

[01:43:01] I didn't think it was

[01:43:02] Worth telling I don't I don't have a burger report. I I'm like

[01:43:07] I'm out. Yeah, we basically got the last one out of you the one where you had to bleep the name

[01:43:12] Yeah, that was a good one. Uh, look, I mean, look, I'm constantly scouring and uh, you know now now that uh, look

[01:43:18] Here's an incentive to people

[01:43:20] Tickets picked up. I get a season. I become some big time uh,

[01:43:24] Fimo maybe you'll get some more burger might get invited into those famous burger joints, you know gets a watch

[01:43:29] So, you know, that's if you're a blankie

[01:43:32] And you like yourself some burger reports. You gotta watch the tech

[01:43:36] But you gotta watch it from beginning to end David is nodding his head so hard that he literally shook his headphone straight off

[01:43:43] How long we've been running banny?

[01:43:46] Uh

[01:43:47] An hour 40 well, this is the end of this episode

[01:43:49] We bought the zoo and we were happy to buy

[01:43:53] You guys some of our time today. I don't know. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do

[01:43:59] Great, we're done subscribe. Listen recommend to friends. Yes, please. We'll be back next week for aloha

[01:44:06] Yep, I believe pod loha with with esters-uckerman of the av club. Yes my great friend esters-uckerman

[01:44:13] Many great outlets, uh has written for the alina. Why are you 29 entertainment weekly?

[01:44:20] Ever heard of them? Yep. You fucking idiot. Yep

[01:44:24] Read a magazine or a blog. Exactly. Fucking piece of shit

[01:44:30] Pod loha next week with esters-uckerman the great esters-uckerman

[01:44:33] Uh-huh and

[01:44:35] as always

[01:44:37] Well, I just I just remember the one important thing we forgot to set up

[01:44:41] Ben

[01:44:42] What's up, Ben? Do you want to share with the listeners your favorite part of the

[01:44:46] Yeah

[01:44:50] Not to get this close to come on just shop and let him do it. Okay scarlet shahansen

[01:44:55] Very cute. I like her great. She said my name throughout the movie

[01:45:01] Great, okay great review subscribe

[01:45:05] Uh and as always

[01:45:08] I'm slightly worried that I'm gonna be put on a sex offenders registry watch list for talk about all fanning that much

[01:45:13] Yep makes sense little little bit work. All right. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye is