Wonder Woman
June 05, 201701:51:04

Wonder Woman

On the week of it’s release in May of 2017, Griffin and David discussed the newest release in DC Extended Universe: Wonder Woman. Recorded at the Sims’ residence in Brooklyn, NY.


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[00:00:01] Blank Check with Griffin and David, they are two experts All you need for the show is Blank Check Power Grace Wisdom Wonder Podcast! Is there another word? No, I added one word. I want to keep Wonder in there because I thought otherwise it would not track

[00:00:36] I was going to say I figured Wonder was the... That's the last one. I don't know if you got it but the last two words started with W's So on the poster... I don't even remember what the... Wisdom, David Very wise

[00:00:49] So the last two words start with W and the W's are in bigger font than the other letters So you start to go hmm I'm reading this tagline. What does this remind me of? Oh 1W 2Ws are we going to a website address? No third W

[00:01:03] It is in fact Wonder Woman Wonder Woman Wonder Woman I see and I see the W's are bold That's what I was saying But also did you see that they didn't do character posters and instead they just did like a poster for courage

[00:01:18] Okay, you're saying that to me right now but look at what I got right here Character poster Robin Wright The experience of the My Max 3D with Robin Wright and a sword And Gal Gadot and Connie Niels

[00:01:32] Okay, before we record this I know we're recording now before we get deeper into this episode By the way everybody hi my name is Greg Hi my name is David This is a podcast called Blank Check with Griffin David We are hashtagged the two friends

[00:01:44] This podcast is usually comprised of many series Sure Filmographies, directors who had a massive success early on in their career Given a series of blank checks to make whatever they want Sometimes those checks clear and sometimes David Pain's mean to say but sometimes those checks bounce Hey

[00:02:01] But sometimes you do one-offs And we've been sort of Kind of quietly off to the side building this little mini series out of Almost out of mistake? One-offs Yeah The DCEU I hate that it's called that Don't you hate that it's called that

[00:02:19] You have no idea how much I hate that it's called that It is an extended universe because they couldn't call it the DCCU Because then it sounds like you're stuttering Right Why not just call it the DCU? DCU Yeah, that's what they should call it

[00:02:34] I think they want to sound more different than MCU And I guess then it's just the detective cinematic universe Yep, detective, comics, universe Right, yeah Why not just whatever It's called that Yeah And boy, I mean if you're a fan of detective comics

[00:02:55] You're gonna love the detective work on display in this movie So we We've been covering BVS the famous Lost episode It was Batman vs Superman we just decided I think it was like I saw it and I just said to you and Ben

[00:03:09] No, we were definitely talking about it in the ramp up Right Because before you went to see it we were like should all three of us go together Cause I was like this something's about to happen Yeah, yeah, it's true We could see it on the horizon

[00:03:21] We recorded an episode, it was lost You got the best parts Of it probably our worst episode Griffin v. David, Don Ben-Dusser Yes, an episode in which we were supposedly going to talk about Watchmen as well

[00:03:33] And then in an hour in we were like oh we're not going to talk about Watchmen at all And then all of that was lost to the sands of time But then of course we did Suicide Pod for which we won our first

[00:03:43] I think that was our first Obi right For Suicide Pod That was the second Obi, I forgot about that Yeah, we did Suicide Pod You painstakingly made Avatar Sir All of Us In the Suicide Squad website Yes And so we thought New D.C.E.U. moving

[00:04:04] At this point we got enough of the narrative going on here Our fans, our blankies would want to hear us discuss the New D.C.E.U. film And at this point And there's just something about this as opposed to say you're Marvel You're manicured, well made

[00:04:21] Sort of efficiently run Correct Franchise There's just something blank checky about it Yeah, even though you know I mean Zack Snyder has had the blank check for the first two movies in the series And then Suicide Squad definitely feels his kind of imprint of the visual style

[00:04:37] That he established in his two movies There is not you know, I mean famously there's not a Kevin Feige figure With the same control creatively There's not an overseer Well apparently now But he was also involved in the early movies that people didn't like

[00:04:49] And now they're just promoting him more I don't know But there's something very like pointed about how they've been making these movies And trying to make them stand in opposition to Marvel Which are the biggest movies and being like Hey you know those things that everyone likes

[00:05:01] Let's make our own versions of that But make them different than the things that people like about You know what I'm saying I do and I think that's almost the argument for the D.C.E.U. Like they're trying so hard not to be Marvel Right

[00:05:14] That there's something kind of interesting about them They're in their angsty teenage phase Teenagers are weirdly compelling even though they suck in their little shits I mean Nanastyl and Batman vs Superman are both compelling movies In their ways Suicide Squad is tougher It's not really compelling

[00:05:33] It's only compelling in a way where you're like I can't believe it Like I put it on TV the other night And Joanna had never seen it And she was like, yeah I kind of want to keep watching

[00:05:43] But then at a certain point you do sort of fall off It stops, yeah Well after you hit the 17th song The 17 needle drops No needle drops in this movie None This helps that it was before the invention of like the phonograph Right

[00:05:56] So this movie is called Wonder Woman Okay so we're here to talk about Wonder Woman It's the newest D.C.E.U. movie And let's say right now we're recording this A Patty Jenkins film Yes, she's playing the sound quality of this episode

[00:06:06] We're recording this episode in David's apartment Yes Because right now we saw an early screening We're recording this on May 24th The film will not come out until the first week in June All fucked up because of his schedule My schedule is crazy Folks, I said it once

[00:06:19] I said it again No one should ever make a TV show So we dashed Well actually I think the episode in which you said that Is going to air after this one Well then here you go Here's a preview

[00:06:30] So we just dashed from my house to dash the plot Okay but actually if that episode doesn't come out Then let me prep as that statement a little more Sure Having a great time Show's going great I think you're all going to love it That had been said

[00:06:40] No one should make a TV show Too much work Agreed Too much I hate they are making a TV show I'd rather you were just like A miserable single person doing nothing Yeah and I keep on telling them

[00:06:49] I'm like hey can I give David some of the work And they were like nope All the work for you I don't think I would You got to do all the work They sound like smart people I'm like what if I did the acting

[00:06:57] I'm like I don't think I'd be doing any of the work I said what if I did the acting But David learned my lines And they were like that wouldn't accomplish anything How do you learn lines Yeah Actually seriously Cause I actually don't know how people do that

[00:07:08] Okay at this point I don't know if I want to I don't know if I want to say this on mic Cause it's one of those things Where you wonder if you're going to sound bad Or good when you say this At this point you're good at it

[00:07:17] I kind of just have it as a muscle now Sure that's good Like when I used to be Oh I'm the shitty assistant in this thing I would like the night before Take my like four lines And I would like write them over and over again

[00:07:28] On note cards until I knew them backwards And forwards and I knew every word And this and that Like now I'm like I'm like I'm like I remember when I was learning to drive I was so focused on shifting gears Cause I learned to drive on a stick

[00:07:40] And I was just like Ah God I barely know what else I'm doing I'm so worried about just getting the gears right And then like you just think Like how will I ever get out And eventually you're like Yeah Oh it's easy now And like to me

[00:07:54] The idea of acting I'm like I would just be so upset Like I'm not going to go Like I'm not going to go You know I'm not going to go Like I'm not going to go

[00:08:03] I would just be so obsessed with not getting the lines wrong that I can't even imagine making a decision. I mean, here's my quick answer. We're not going to talk about this for 45 minutes. Just talk about it. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no, no.

[00:08:12] Uh, read the script when I get it, absorb it, think about it a lot. I'm sorry that I asked this actually genuinely. I know, I know. Um, but, but I have so much to do on the show. Hummelbrack. The star. Hummelbrack. You're a star. Yeah.

[00:08:28] Um, but I mean almost every scene and I have a lot of dialogue and there's a lot of complex stuff and there's a lot of like, um, you know, complex names and, you know, different heroes and locations and whatever.

[00:08:40] Um, so if I like try to load everything in and advance my brain will just collapse. Right. So it's like, I know what we got coming up tomorrow when we start that scene. Now I'm really kind of locking into it.

[00:08:49] You do your kind of rehearsal where you're figuring out where you're going to move and that helps me a lot. Sure. Cause then I start remembering like, Oh, you say this line on this step. You say that line when you pick up that thing. Makes sense.

[00:08:59] Blocking is important. Right. So then in the time between when we blocked it and then they go to light and I have some time I, you know, kind of burrow away, stare at intensely, lock it in. Do you have sides that you like keep on you? Yeah. Okay.

[00:09:11] So I hide them in my supersuit. Everybody does that, right? Most. Yeah. If you have costumes, you'd like put them in your pockets. I don't have pockets. So what I do is I take the zipper, my supersuit and I zip it down and I

[00:09:21] hide it underneath my chest padding. That's amazing. Yeah. All right. So Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman. Oh yeah. So I'm a superhero. That's the point. So I can give an extra opinion here. Guy hides sides on my body.

[00:09:32] So this is the fourth film in the DC, in the DCEU, which is now four years old. Yes. Because they have been progressing at an extremely slow pace because they did not really know. No, Man of Steel was older than that.

[00:09:45] Cause there was time between Man of Steel and BVS. Oh, and there was, I know, but I think Man of Steel was 2013. Yeah. Four years old. Oh wow. That's what I said. Right. It's Man of Steel 2013. Oh, and then two last year. That's what it was. Two years.

[00:09:57] And then in 2016, three years, right? Right. In 2016 we get Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad. Okay. You see where you get Wonder Woman and in November we're going to get Justice. The Justice League. Now this felt like a real fall-con movie because, you know, look, DC fanboys

[00:10:13] are going to love what they're going to love. Sure. But by and large, court of public opinion, these movies are not tremendously well liked. No. They make money though. Bad reviews. Bad reviews, but that's only because Disney's paying. Bad word of mouth. Disney paced through the nose.

[00:10:25] God, I'm so rich. Yeah. Well, let's mention this. Well, this episode is sponsored by Disney. Yeah. Thank you, Disney. Thank you, Disney. No, no, it's actually not because we like the movie. So I guess like finally Warner Brothers Outbid Disney. Yeah, finally. That was a joke. Correct.

[00:10:38] But previously up until now Disney's been paying for this whole podcast. There's so many ideas that are annoyingly prevalent. One of which is that some studio would bother to pay film critics any money to give good reviews. Yeah.

[00:10:51] They're the whole point of their operation is to not care about us, guys. Those people as you guys all probably know who's been their theories. They should spend one day on a set and one day in the office of any sort of publication or website. Right. Oh, yes.

[00:11:05] You know, and just be like, oh, you just realize no one knows what the fuck they're doing and no one cares. And the other thing is the idea that Wonder Woman is like not being advertised properly because like Warner Brothers is sexist. It's a failure.

[00:11:20] But they spent a lot of money on the movie. They want it to make money. This movie looks very expensive. It's all they could cost them like listed budget 120, my guess is more. But so this is only the second film directed by a woman with a budget

[00:11:34] over $100 million in history. Yes. And the first is K-19 the Widowmaker which will be covering very soon on this podcast. We'll be covering that very some controversy because some websites list that movies budget is 90. However, when it was made everyone was ballerina selling point

[00:11:49] was that it cost 100 mil correct and that a woman was directing it. This is the first summer tentpole movie ever directed by a woman. Yeah, that's not live action. Because K-19 I think was like a fall movie or something. Yeah, yeah. But that's crazy. That's crazy.

[00:12:04] That's that's nuts. And that's one of the main things riding on this movie. You have a DC universe that has gotten mixed responses at best, made money, but it feels like, OK, that's sort of you're selling the product, you know, people like the characters.

[00:12:16] But at some point are you going to lose that fan support? Well, they stopped showing up because fool me four times. Shame on you. Of course, right? Right. At a certain point, you might, you know, the wheels might come off.

[00:12:25] Right. You have the last of the real kind of hugely iconic for sure. A super hero characters. Marvel's gotten all their huge characters. I'm not even talking about like, you know, Thor and Iron Man. We're talking about the like the top tier of like Americana.

[00:12:41] You see our Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Right. And the top Marvel like the X men, Spiderman and I'd say Spider-Man Wolverine Hulk. Fair. I'd say those are the three biggest ones they have. Right? Captain America is sort of was never

[00:12:54] that beloved as a character iconography, but now he's gotten better. Yeah. Out the Fantastic Four, which would be to me the only other yeah, possible argument. But this movie has that weird kind of vibe that first Spider-Man Superman, Batman had, you know, prior to even the

[00:13:11] Angley Hulk where people are like, this is a huge character. First Superman is 78. Yeah. First Batman is 89. Spider-Man 2001. Oh, two. And then Hulk's Oh, three. Yeah. So it's taken this long. I mean, obviously there have been many shots at Wonder Woman. There was a TV show.

[00:13:28] There was a later recent David E. Kelly pilot. Have you ever heard about that? Yes, I have Adrian Pellecky and which apparently there was a scene where she was in her pajamas like watching TV and eating popcorn

[00:13:40] and being like, God, I just know single guys and like, you know, like that that it was a lawyer by day, Wonder Woman by night show. Right. Wasn't that the concierge? That was the idea. Yeah. Back in the day when these shows like studios are still like,

[00:13:52] but what's the like procedural? Yeah. Jolson Silver had the rights forever at Warner's before they were trying to do this collective universe. Correct. We got hired to make one in 2005. Let me actually run this down because there are some good names. Ivan Reitman.

[00:14:06] Yeah, Dr. Draftac in the 90s in 96. So it probably would have started Schwarzenegger if it was right. Right. Right. Then it went to John Cohen, who was doing it for John Cohen's screenwriter. Oh, OK. He co-wrote my Nari report.

[00:14:22] But I think he's the one who wrote the first draft that Scott Frank printed, but for Joel Silver, Sandra Bullock was attached. Makes sense. Angelina Jolie was considered. Obviously, as Zilly and other people were mentioned like Catherine Zeta-Jones, Megan Fox. Anyone with dark hair. Jill Billson, exactly. Right.

[00:14:43] In 2001, Sandra Bullock said she was approached. There was an actual screenplay written in 2003 by what's it called Cohen and all these other people. Then that all gets swept aside in 2005. Mart Warner Brothers and Silver Pictures announced Joss Whedon, the Buffy guy.

[00:15:03] He's going to write and direct you a superhero. I'm not being thrilled because he was writing Astonishing X-Men at the time and that book fucking ruled. So good. And there was this thing of like, why won't they let Joss Whedon make a superhero movie?

[00:15:14] Like you were reading these X-Men issues every month. It was like this big uptick in like Marvel sales. And they were like, this guy knows how to write ensemble superhero action. And honestly, he wrote out he on on his old fan website, Whedon.

[00:15:29] Yes, I remember he like the thing came fell apart two years later. Yeah, he couldn't crack it. He couldn't crack it. But he said that essentially he had presented them with his idea and they were like, we don't like it.

[00:15:39] Do something else and he could just never find another way. Right. His idea. I could probably dig it up if I go. Sounded pretty fun. The rumor was always he wanted Kobe Smallers. Yeah. And that's why she got the sort of thanks for playing

[00:15:53] Maria Hill in the Avengers movies, but Marina Baccarin. A lot of things like his former collaborators, Chris and Hendricks, I think, Chris McCarpener, she would have been old. I mean, there's no way she would have done that. It's all bullshit. This is Wikipedia.

[00:16:06] So, you know, you can't David Boreanis. Sure. Then Silver buys a spec script by some other guys set during World War Two. Now, you know the story about this spec script, right? He liked it, but didn't want to do a period piece. Incorrect. Well, we'll go ahead.

[00:16:21] What I heard happened is he didn't like the script. Sure. But by not buying it, they could sue to say that they came up with the idea to do it in World War Two if they ended up making that film.

[00:16:34] So he bought the script in order to have those rights to protect himself from a future lawsuit. Because I mean, look, this movie ended up being set in World War Two. And no one else was writing World War Two drafts.

[00:16:46] So they had to like buy it to cover their asses. But then that got a lot of news and people thought, oh, they're going to make this version. Right. It was never the intention is what I have understood. This is a World War One movie to be clear.

[00:16:56] Not a World War Two. Oh, yes. Sorry. Yes. But this script was World War Two. Yes. Then it bounces around a keeps bouncing around. Paul Feig like pitched them hard on like kind of an action comedy version of it. Post-Bridesmaids. Yeah. I mean, thank God that didn't happen.

[00:17:10] I guess I mean, no offense. You need to make the real version before you make the agreed. I mean, this is the problem and it's the problem with the David E. Kelly pilot that it's like just do a fucking superhero.

[00:17:20] It doesn't have to be about like balancing life and work. Crackin with some sort of postmodern take. I mean, fucking what's his name? Nicholas Wining Raffin was always saying it was his dream to make a Wonder Woman movie.

[00:17:30] And he had this whole take on it where it's like, you got to make a meat and potatoes Wonder Woman movie first. We were not ready to do a Batman Begins version of this. Keep on winding. She's the long and winding Raffin.

[00:17:42] The one and one and Raffin is right. Michelle McLaren. Yes, then hired to direct this movie, which they knew now we're making a D.C. EU and coming up nice and fast is a Wonder Woman movie. And Michelle McLaren had just directed.

[00:17:56] She directed many episodes of the TV, but she had just directed Ozzy Mandia's Yes, the sort of big not finale episode, but best received episode of Breaking Bad's final season. She was a woman. I think that Warner Brothers was very interested in hiring a woman

[00:18:10] to direct the movie, obviously. Not, you know, let it not go unmentioned that there was a bit of a like, OK, Marvel and D.C., when is one of them? Right, there's this race where it's like, no, you haven't done one movie with a female lead

[00:18:24] and you haven't made one movie with a female director. And it's like, one of them is good to do it first. So what? One of us kind of planted their flag and was like, we're getting Wonder Woman out before Marvel makes Captain Marvel

[00:18:34] and we're going to hire a woman. Fuck you. Yeah, no, they were trying to be like, hey, it took you guys 10 years and it's only take us three, whatever. Like that was their whole pitch. Anyway, they hire Michelle McLaren.

[00:18:47] She eventually drops out due to quote unquote creative differences and everyone starts pulling at their collars being like, oh my god, like every single D.C. movie that seems to happen like micromanage. Yeah, they can't hold on to a director.

[00:18:58] Right. We'll make fun of Kevin Feige or whoever, but at least yeah, like he gets the movies. That's the job done. They hire Patty Jenkins. Patty Jenkins. And have we confirmed this? Her second film. It is her third second film. It's her second film.

[00:19:12] She made the film Monster in the year 2003. She made she was the second assistant camera on a modern affair that's what I was trying to remember. Me up. Yeah, she made Monster in 2003 basically out of nowhere. She has no other credits. Crazy, which is in my opinion.

[00:19:27] We were talking about it after we saw Wonder Woman, a great movie. Yeah, a great movie has done a lot of TV since then, you know, directed a lot of the first season of the killing which people was into, which kind of got her back on shortlist.

[00:19:38] Yes, I'm getting mentioned a lot. Directed the pilot of the killing, which got her an Emmy nomination. She worked on entourage. She worked on an arrest development episode, interesting, not one involving Charlie's there. And yeah, maybe that's why Charlie's there and then was then in it.

[00:19:52] She worked on the Sarah Silverman program as an actor. Weird, weird. But the big thing was that killing pilot, the killing pilot, which then led to her getting hired to direct. Finally, a woman directing a superhero movie. It is called Thor the Dark World.

[00:20:08] That's right. And she was on that film. Natalie Portman apparently in her contract has some level of director approval, right? Push really hard for Patty Jenkins. They hired her creative differences. Sure. She's out the door. Her play store with Alan Taylor. Yes, Natalie Portman was apparently very angry.

[00:20:22] And that's why she's not in the new Thor movie. Any more Marvel movies ever? Ever again. So pay back. Which is funny because Thor the Dark World literally ends with like, don't worry now, like, Borman, we're going to stay together. Yeah. And then Avengers 2, he's bragging

[00:20:36] about how his girlfriend's the best. He is. They have that line. Yeah. But it is it's it's very indicative of the sad state of affairs that they're like, OK, who's the most qualified woman to direct a superhero movie? The woman who almost got

[00:20:51] which is not to say she wasn't qualified because I think she's proven she's more qualified. But it's like, you know, this dumb argument they always make. There's no whole argument is like, there's no one. There's no one who can handle this kind of thing, which is silly.

[00:21:02] You have to take a chance on someone. But guess what? You didn't fucking know Colin Trevor over and make a blockbuster. Wait, do you have an opinion on that guy? I like him. I think he makes good movies. You know what? I just I read the Vanity Fair

[00:21:12] last Jedi. Sure. OK. And you know what I found out that really, really bummed me out. What do you know this? No. So for episode nine, they they they asked Brad Bird. I mean, they asked Brad Bird if he wanted to make Force Awakens.

[00:21:25] Right. And he said no. I'm making Tomorrowland. And also, I guess he was just sort of like the mojo of Star Wars is too much for me. I can't handle it. I think that was sort of one of the things that he was in pre-production on Tomorrowland.

[00:21:36] He was like, this is just not going to happen. Yeah. And he said, you know who you should check out. I do know this movie. Colin Trevor. I do know this. I didn't know that. OK, because the story is even worse than that.

[00:21:47] Well, then he then add and that that Indian character in Save You Not Guaranteed wasn't racist. He said that too. There there was a. I loved it when the babysitter got murdered. I approved of the high heel. Trying to think of shit. Colin Trevor.

[00:22:03] I wrote things that Cathy Candy was pursuing Brad Bird really hard. He was by all accounts. An obvious choice was all accounts, the first choice and was the guy they really want to get higher. Him for episode nine. I agree. He's a technician.

[00:22:16] I agree. He'll just take his dick out. Put on the table. You know you're laughing, but you know it's true. Yeah, he'll just take it out. Yeah. So little middle aged dick. I'm doing. What are we doing with our lives? I don't know what this is.

[00:22:35] I care. I'm sorry. Brad Bird. Brad, please make the Star Wars. And he said, I cannot make the Star Wars. I got to make the Tomorrowland. Sure. And they said, please, Brad. We pushed Tomorrowland back. Make it after Star Wars.

[00:22:49] And he said, I got to make the Tomorrowland now because of Britt Robertson's only getting younger. The window is limited. She's only believable as a 12 year old for six more years. So then Cathy Candy was like, what about this, though? What if you directed Tomorrowland

[00:23:09] and we had someone else prep Force Awakens sure who you hired to be like a surrogate and prep and then went to Marland and you jump in. Would is there anyone you trust like this? And he said, well, there's this young guy

[00:23:22] who reminds me a lot of me. His name is Colin Travera. Wow. And so she was like, OK, let me check this guy. And for a little bit they were like trying to see if it would work. And that's when she really saw Colin Travera

[00:23:32] when he was maybe kind of like must have been making Jurassic World. It was before that because then I think she recommended him to her husband, Frank Marshall, producer of Jurassic World. Look, all right. Look, it sucks. It's all Brad's bird's fault. And it just makes me sad

[00:23:48] because he's one of my favorite directors. Look, the point is the audio sounds bad because we're recording a David's apartment because we've seen this movie early and Ben has not. Boy, so we're sorry that Ben's not here. And it's not here. Producer Ben's not here.

[00:24:02] Yeah, the Ben Deucer is not here. Purdue or Ben, the Poet Laureate, Mr. Haas, the Haas, Mr. Positive, Mr. Haas, the Peeper, the tiebreaker, birthday, Ben Airfinance Film Critic, the Fart Detective, the Meat Lover. Fuck master. It's not Professor Crispy. Seeming the Street Twist

[00:24:20] and my hearty hello, Fannel. Graduated certain titles over the course of different miniseries such as Bruce Ben Kenobi, Kylo Ben, Ben Nechomlon, Ben Sate, Ben. Is it anything? Ailey Ben to the dollar sign and War Haas. War Haas. And that seems to have gone over well.

[00:24:37] People like you. Happy about that. He is not here. So let's not talk about him again. OK, so the scripts based the scripts by Alan Hynberg, who's a comic book writer, but also a TV writer. Start out as a TV writer, wrote for O.C.

[00:24:51] Then he wrote Young Avengers, which is a great series. A very great run he had on Avengers and I'll say this. Young Avengers kind of was the forefather to a lot of what Marvel's doing now. It was the more sort of progressive agreed teenage antagonist. No, no, no.

[00:25:07] First, first like kind of big gay couple in the Marvel universe between Hulkeling and Wiccan. True. It was a great book. And they cast Gal Gadot. OK, so we need to get this out of the way. How the fuck do you say her name? I think it's Godot.

[00:25:21] I used to always think it was Godot because I go with French pronunciation. My mom's French. I always defer to French. She is not French. She's not French. I was wrong. I believe it's Gal Gadot. She is Israeli. Here we go. I'm going to look it up.

[00:25:35] Gal Gadot. My name is Gal Gadot. And obviously Israeli. OK, Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. And get ready because we're going to gal Gadot upon her. Yes, we are. She won the role over Ella De Young and Olga Kurilenko, Olga Kurilenko. Yes, yes.

[00:25:54] Who I swear to God, those two have just been head to head every day like sort of like yeah, central Asian beauty. Like how do you describe your Asian? She's Russian. She was in like Hitman and Quantum of She was in Quantum of course. And Max Payne.

[00:26:12] Correct. And I a lot of video game to the wonder that she is into the wonder. That's right. She won best supporting Torrell in that movie. She did do some Torrell's. Anyway, Gal Gadot, who had been in the Fast and Furious franchise.

[00:26:25] So she's one of my best friends. She plays Giselle. I love her. It was very sad when she died. My favorites agreed. I mean, four or five, six, she's one of my favorite characters in the franchise. I mean, I'll admit when she was cast.

[00:26:35] Yeah, I was like, oh, OK, you know, just kind of a badass in those movies. But like, can she act? She was a former Miss Israeli. Miss Israel. Is Israel, right? I'm sorry. That is real. And then, yeah, audition for Quantum of Solace for the old Coranco part.

[00:26:51] It's true she lost that casting director said, hey, let me throw you a little Fast and Furious instead. Park grows in the franchise. She forms one of the sexiest screen couples in history between her and Sun Kang as Han Solo. I hope they fucked. Oh God, I am.

[00:27:06] Amazing. They fucked. Oh my God. They're beautiful together. They died together. It's tragic. And then I was always like secretly kind of not secretly, but I was like a fan of hers and felt like she had more than she was showing us.

[00:27:20] And then I was less skeptical than most people with the Wonder Woman thing, but probably a lot of it was my libido talking. Yeah, your libido was talking. Libido. Then she was in Batman versus Superman Dawn of Justice, a Zack Snyder film about Batman and Superman.

[00:27:35] But what if they fought for a second? Yeah. What if they were kind of pissy to each other for most of the movie then fought for a second and then forgot about it? That movie is like a prequel. It's like an origin story about how justice dawns. Exactly.

[00:27:49] And at the end of the movie, justice does dawn, but also Wonder Woman's in it a little bit. A little bit. And people are like, she's the best part. And I was like, I don't even think we can judge this yet. She's pretty good, I guess. She's fine.

[00:28:01] She sells the sort of weight of the raw the iconography, whatever. But it was like, I want to see her really act. I didn't feel like I really knew how she played a character yet. No, it feels like it's a ton to do.

[00:28:15] It feels equivalent to Hawkeye in Thor when he's like, I got a shot. Should I take it? I mean, it's a little more than that. Yeah, that was that was pushing it when they put Hawkeye and Thor. But we've seen this movie and now

[00:28:28] two hours and 40 minutes into our episode. I think we can reveal we're 28 minutes in. Oh, great. OK, so spoiler alert. We're about to talk about the movie now. Sure. Spoiler alert. Spoiler. Watch out. We will actually discuss the whole movie.

[00:28:39] We'll discuss the whole movie from here on out. So go see it. OK. Spoiler alert. It's a sequel to Unbreakable. Yeah, I knew you had to do that. Unbreakable. I'm not going to help us with that. No, absolutely.

[00:28:49] You're not going to be happy about the shoddy quality episode. Spoiler alert. This movie. Rul. It's really good. It's so good. It's surprisingly good. I would say I was overjoyed watching it. I think it was going to be this good. Here's what I was hoping for. Functionality.

[00:29:04] Yeah, that was going to be OK. I go give me some competence. Give me a perfunctory superhero origin. It's a low bar. We're not saying this movie is good compared to Batman versus Superman or whatever. Right. It's a terrific superhero movie. That's the thing. Right.

[00:29:19] It's a great little movie. I'm really happy about it. The DCEU produced what were probably my number one and number two least favorite movies of last year. Yeah, bad, bad. So the bar is very, very low. Yes. And I come to this just going,

[00:29:31] just give me something that feels like a movie. That's all I asked for is make it play like a movie. And then I just every 15 minutes, I was like, is this getting great? I mean, I just don't get greater. And I got this feeling in your libido.

[00:29:46] In my libido. I got the kind of sugar rush at moments of this movie that I think you and I agree we haven't felt since like Remy Spiderman. There's something about how sort of streamlined straight down the middle. They know they're dealing with an important character.

[00:30:03] It's about heroism. It's about heroism. It's about the concept there in heroism. It's and God damn it, she's a fucking hero. She's like the way they present this character. You're like, yeah, this is why superheroes are important. Whether or not you love this movie,

[00:30:18] this may makes an argument for why superheroes exist. Why we need that mythology, why we want to believe in people who have not only infinite power, but also a sense of ethics and morality and obligation, you know, to humanity. Right. And it's pretty touching. Gal Gadot, though.

[00:30:39] Gal Gadot, though. Good. I just found out that she was offered a rolling man of steel but declined it because she was pregnant at the time. I think it would have been the the I. Oh yeah, the the the villain. What's her name?

[00:30:51] So I led the tourers that are no. But now I'm realizing I think she plays the mom, right? I don't know whatever the villain lady. Fiora is the character's name. Yeah, I know that. I have no idea. I suck that you pulled that.

[00:31:03] I did and I can pull some bulls. It is Fiora, right? Yeah, it is Fiora who played by aunt. Trowel writes on to always confuse. Alia Zora and auntie Trower. OK, so yeah, I guess she was offered that role. Didn't take it because she was pregnant. Good call.

[00:31:24] Good call. Instead got to be Wonder Woman. Yeah. And she's a goddamn delight. Yeah, I mean, this really is kind of like a Star's Born performance. And the thing I said to you that the second the lights came up was

[00:31:37] she might get kind of fucked by how good she is in this. Sure, you were comparing her to Christopher Reeves. It might she owns this so well. And this role is so much bigger than most characters that people have to play in terms of the cultural import

[00:31:49] that she might have a tough time not being Wonder Woman for the rest of her life. But guess what? She's a fucking great Wonder Woman and hopefully they let her be Wonder Woman for decades. Yeah, I mean, I hope there's more Wonder Woman movies.

[00:32:00] She signed a three picture deal. So she has well, actually, actually, they're going to need to renegotiate with her. All right, let's make that a 15 picture deal, because this is the only character I want to see in the world.

[00:32:10] I mean, I'm just happy they made a good movie. I mean, it's a good movie and it's nice. So it's good. It's also nice how it's good. Yeah, let's talk about where two friends are going to talk about the movie. Why?

[00:32:22] It's time to talk about the good movie. WW baby. WW dot good movie. Yeah, dot for a four error. Doesn't lead anywhere. Starts off in a. What the hell is it called? Back up back up. Back up. You're already going too far. Movie starts Warner Brothers logo.

[00:32:45] Oh, but what are they playing? They're not playing as time goes by. They're playing. Daniel and already you're like, all right, fuck, that's what they establish is the Wonder Woman theme. Am I going to have to hear that riff for the entire movie?

[00:32:57] I think they only use that riff twice. I only remember it twice. Yeah, definitely. They don't use it much because that's a Hans Zimmer riff and they this is a different composer on this one. He's doing something.

[00:33:07] Rupert Gregson Williams who's doing more of a sort of, you know, grand orchestral, not like Hans Zimmer being like, let me fuck with my synthesizers and do weird stuff. And I'll say this, you know, not like Hans Zimmer.

[00:33:17] Yeah, so there's not like an iconic theme in this movie, but I liked the score a lot. I thought it was a nice kind of sweeping orchestral Hollywood score. Yeah, there's the logo and then there's the DC logo where it's like it's trying to do the Marvel logo.

[00:33:33] But it's like Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Cyborg, colored silhouettes. And they back out and you're like, is Constantine there? What's Detective Chimp doing? I got to say the Marvel logo though. I think the last time I saw it, what was the last Marvel movie? Garden's Galaxy. I'm sorry.

[00:33:48] Right. I'm sorry. Nice base friends again. Nice base friends again. And another joke that will be made in the next episode. Right. And that logo has gotten insane. They are pushing it where they're like, they're all here. You need to put Falcon in this? Really? What's the fanfare?

[00:34:06] It's like I don't remember what the theme is. Is it the Avengers theme? No, it's a new theme. They create it. God, it's so. I think they got Giotino. Sure, that sounds right. Actually, he did it to do the fanfare. But this is whatever.

[00:34:21] And yeah, like Captain America throws a shield at you and you're like, fuck, I can just give me the movies. How many more letters do I have to go? Anyway, I'll say that for DC. They only have to get through two letters. That's true.

[00:34:33] OK, so then the movie starts. You're true. It does then start. Starts in Paris. She's working at the Louvre. Yeah, she's I was like, I almost leaned over and said, this is the venture code scene right here. But then I didn't because we were just crowded screening

[00:34:47] and I want to be an asshole. And the guy behind me who kept going. Yeah, he kept on doing that. And the guy next to me kept falling asleep and then he'd wake up and laugh. What? I didn't know that. Yeah, he'd fall asleep

[00:34:58] and then the audience would laugh at a joke and he'd wake up and keep laughing. Chris, he didn't want to seem like he didn't get the joke. So the movie does begin in the Louvre. She's chilling out. She's sort of like an art historian.

[00:35:10] It seems like that's her cover, right? I guess so. She's got a sort of room full of antiquities. Yes, she's got a room of wonders. She's gorgeous. She's got some high heels, you know, well dressed. But this is the kind of patina

[00:35:21] we've seen her in and be V.S. True. OK, when international lady of mystery. Yes, Wayne Enterprises truck backs up package comes out. People carry it over. She opens it up. Lucid case. You know what? I forgot about all this.

[00:35:33] And I remember that I was like, oh, here we go. It's going to be a start. I was like, it's going to be a fucking holocaust from Bruce Wayne and like Ben Affleck, like three vodka's in is going to be like, oh, right.

[00:35:45] What's this for a video game? Like for the list of the homes, B roll from Jersey girl for the Lister at home. During David's impression of Ben Affleck, he would not stop tugging at his collar. It really made the impression.

[00:35:59] Say it took a drag of his big pen and then they rolled camera played six hands of Texas. Hold on. I'm sorry, Ben Affleck. I love you. I hope that you figure it out, whatever it is. That's clearly weighing on you, but it clearly is weighing on you.

[00:36:16] I'll tell you what's weighing on and he's got to get to the Joker. Looker is out there. They've had jokers out there up to no good. He's got to catch slip knot. Try to become people.

[00:36:28] People ask Ben Affleck why he looks so so down on his luck right now. It's because he's got the fiercest rogues gallery out there. March Harriet, the Riddler, Sanglin Grundy, let's go. Boorn on a Monday. Let's go deep calendar man.

[00:36:48] I would love it if they just rebooted Batman or if like Affleck. It turned out Affleck quit because he was like, it's calendar man or nothing. And they were like, we can't do calendar man. Don't you want like cat woman? He's like, no. Here's the deal.

[00:37:02] I'm only in if Humpty Dumpty is the main antagonist. What's another dumb Batman villain? There's so many. Look, worm. None of those characters are in this movie. So she gets a case and you're like, what fucking Affleck bullshit is this going to be?

[00:37:20] And what is it? Oh, it's the photograph that he sent her in. In the air type or whatever. So right now we're overlapping with BVS. And this was something that happened in BVS. And it's right. He digs up this photo and you're like, is that Chris? Right.

[00:37:34] Oh, I guess they cast him in that movie. Right. Because she said I'm looking for a photo of my grandmother. Right. He finds it. And he's like, that's not no grandmother. That's you. You've been alive for decades. Right. He sends her an email and you aren't aging.

[00:37:46] So he sends an email. Is like, what the fuck's going on? Sent to this letter. Sent to this letter that's like found your picture would love to hear the story sometime. So that that that presumably this one we take place before she reunites

[00:37:57] at the end I guess of BVS to fight Doomsday and then form the justice. The timeline of all that. Who cares? Don't have to really worry about it because once she looks at the photo, fade in and now boom, we're in the movie.

[00:38:08] Guess what? Leave all that fucking DCU stuff behind because never comes back. Yeah. Never. Yeah. We're not even re-entering America in the entire span of this movie. Is that either Themyscira, mysterious Brigadon type island that men cannot find unless they happen to land on it.

[00:38:28] And the wall of London and Paris, France, you know, like the front. Yes. The front. Or one. The front. Here's the thing I immediately love in this movie. Sure. We start with Lil Wonder Woman. Do they dig up a cutie for this? Well, what the fuck?

[00:38:47] This girl is like clowning. She's adorable. And it reminds me of Wonder Woman. Her mom's like, no, no, no, no. But immediately there's like this emotional pull Emily Kerry is her name. This girl is very cute. Yeah. But this is the trick that Disney uses British actress. Oh.

[00:39:07] Well, this is the thing I really like about the movie. Yes, they reverse engineered everyone else to sound like Al Gadot. Yeah, they did. Everyone else is doing a Gal Gadot. Everyone on the island has this sort of vague, like sort of pan European,

[00:39:20] like sort of Israeli accent a little bit. That's oh, let's note this before we get further into the by the film. Gal Gadot Israeli Israeli, right? Correct. As a citizen of Israel, everyone must serve their time. Yes, sir. In the military. She was a Mossad agent.

[00:39:35] Nice, which is badass. Yes. Cutie P to the girl. And they're so cute. Diana. Yes. The princess of this of the most. You're a famous here. You got her mom is played by Colin Connie Nielson. Believe it, we're going to miss. All of us. Hippolyta.

[00:39:54] Her mom is that person. Nicole Kerman almost played this role and ended up instead taking the role of big little lives. Aquaman's mother. What? You don't know? No. She's playing mom, Aquaman. Aquaman boy. She doesn't look anything like fucking Jason. I'm more times spitting image.

[00:40:18] They got the exact same body type. Yeah, you're right. Me or sorry, I take it all back. She gained a hundred pounds of muscle. Did she do that? I think Willem defose the dad and the cool kids. The mom defose the dad is fine, although,

[00:40:29] I mean, is there a superhero franchise he's not in at this point? Anyway, yeah, the tech. Well, get him on board. I'll announce this. Willem defose going to play my love interest in season two. So and then we got Robin Wright,

[00:40:44] who's Robin Wright in Arleigh Ermey of the Island and Tippi and and T. And T. Her aunt. Yes, she's the aunt. A politics sister. She's got a cool scar. Yeah, she's pretty great actually. Pretty fucking awesome. She's actually true.

[00:40:57] I'm actually just thinking about it now because we just saw the movie. Yeah, she's pretty great. She's not in much of it, which is why we forgot until now. Right. Robin Wright's terrific. She's really good. Love Robin Wright. I almost wish she played.

[00:41:08] I mean, kind of now there's something I want to say about this movie. Yeah, the setup of this movie is exactly the same as Moana. OK, this is what I was saying. They pull from the Disney playbook. Yes, but it's also not just Moana.

[00:41:19] There's a lot of Moana here. Sure. But that's I wanted to apologize to the sake instead of the coconut. That would have been good. It's been six months since you first made that joke. The coconut. Yeah. I know joke at least once a week.

[00:41:35] Remember that you call that song, consider the coconut and laugh out loud. And it's usually like in public transportation in the middle of a take. Please, please get to the coconut. Oh, my God. Can see it. It's leaves. Can I tell you something?

[00:41:49] I tried to watch Mordecai, too. They made a second Mordecai. Because remember, you confessed to me that you had tried to watch it. Yeah. And, you know, we obviously we I'm thinking about this because we'd like to have a good laugh

[00:42:01] about the movie more like I exist in. David and I, we love to have a laugh about more to. So I as a joke, so I was on Hulu. Yes, that's where I tried to watch it. Ten minutes. I made it in. Yeah. It's rough. It really is.

[00:42:13] It's rough. You know, like the Saltine challenge? I think yeah, we're like, how hard can this be? More to Cai is the modern day Saltine. More to Cai is one of two movies that I've turned off like 20 minutes in recently.

[00:42:25] The other one was Babylon, A.D., which was on HBO. The Vin Diesel movie directed by Matthew Kessler. I put it on and I was like, come on, how is this bad? It's from the director of La Ain. It stars my boy Vin Diesel, your toy maker,

[00:42:38] bomb friend from Munich. Exactly. I was like, come on, this has to there has to be something. Children of men with Vin Diesel. Yeah, kind of, but set in like Kazakhstan. So hard to watch. We talked about whoever wrote the A.V. Club review for Babylon,

[00:42:54] A.D. has one of my favorite put downs in history. What's that? Which is like, you know, mysterious loner and that's his parentheses played by Vin Diesel, who for our younger readers was briefly a movie star in the early 2000s. That's rough. That was 2008 and they were like,

[00:43:09] this is that was his bottom out. Let's put the dirt on top of the grave and then came back. Gal Gadot helped him to tie it back to this movie. Gal Gadot. No. OK, so a lot of these Disney movies,

[00:43:21] the Disney Princess films used the hey, opening section, first 10 minutes. Sure. Little baby version of our character. Cute, very cute, very likable. There's a reason babies look so cute. So wolves don't eat them and it works on audiences too. Sure. Well, the audiences are the wolves. Right. Right.

[00:43:36] And we're like sitting there with our arms crossed, going, I'm not going to like this movie. And then a little cute toddler comes up and you go, OK. No, she's all right. And if you have a toddler at the beginning of the movie,

[00:43:44] kind of express their wants and desires. Then when you cut to them as a grown up, you're like, but I see that little kid who wants their dreams. Right. So it's the frozen thing. It's sure on a thing. Many of these old things.

[00:43:55] But I mean, just the monathon because it's also an island and also she's the heir to the island and also they're like, you shouldn't leave. We know you want to leave. You shouldn't leave. We know you want to. And she's also constantly considering coconuts. Wouldn't you?

[00:44:10] Yeah, she's got a little pig named Pua and a dumb rooster named Hi, Hi. Right. So early on, she's like, I want to be a warrior because everyone here is a warrior. Amazonian warriors and they're training all of them constantly and we all constantly like they have arrows.

[00:44:27] They have swords. They're war say they're doing cool shit. And her mom is like, dude, you're a kid. Don't you want to not be a warrior for a while before war? Yeah. You experience the horrors of war. Yeah. And she just keeps on wanting to get. No. Yeah.

[00:44:42] So hers. She's like, let me explain to you a little origin story. This is the shoe leather part of the movie where we go to. They open up a painting. It was fine. I thought it was fine.

[00:44:50] They got it out of the way. Cool little painting version of an art in story. I mean, look, they got they set all this up a lot better than the first Thor movie. Yes. That's true. I think it's all well realized.

[00:45:00] I like the sense the island feels like an actual lived in place. You know, fighting the training you see, it's like, that's just genuinely very physically impressive. The costumes are gorgeous. All the armor is like fucking amazing. Yeah. And then they open up this painting and she's like,

[00:45:13] let me tell you the story. She goes, I don't want you to fight because you're my daughter. You're the only child we have in the island. Do you know how much I wanted you? Right. I went to do so much that I made a

[00:45:22] maybe you had a clay and I asked us to turn your life because I know, mom, you told me the story. I know that Zeus like shot lightning at some clay and made me God bore. And she's like, let me tell you a story.

[00:45:31] She unfurls a painting and they dive in the pain. You get a CGI thing where they go, you know, hearing it later. I'll do it. I can do it. OK. Zeus created man. Correct. God's grand vious of man. Aries we rule because we're so great.

[00:45:45] Aries, the son of Zeus and the God of war. Hates him so much that he infects man with war and, you know, whatever fighting the original disease. And so Zeus creates the Amazons to calm us down, I guess, by being so hot protect us.

[00:46:04] I don't know. Oh, the idea was that they bow that men, men will will follow what the Amazons say to do that they're so beautiful that if the Amazons are like, don't war, then we'll be like, OK, this is not our words. This is verbatim the script.

[00:46:17] Yeah. But then the Amazon sort of basically unionized. Yeah, they're like rebel against this purpose. And they're like, OK, term number one, we want an island. Yeah. Number two, islands invisible. He's so Zeus is like, fine, we don't really see what the negotiations

[00:46:32] were like there. But then things get bad. So Aries rebels goes after all the gods almost takes down Zeus. Yeah. Zeus kills him. They think they think and Zeus is like, fuck, that was bad. Let me make a weapon for the Amazon God.

[00:46:49] Killer. Any time Aries comes back. God killer. So this whole time all the women are kind of like, well, you know, a Robin rights like, look, Aries might come back. Let's train nonstop. Connie Nielsen, who I got to say does not seem like a particularly competent

[00:47:04] queen keeps being like, but counterpoint. What if he doesn't? I wanted to write play the queen as well. Yes. Yeah. She's just like, but maybe not. But what if I don't want to think about it? Yeah. So no.

[00:47:17] So we all know Aries may be alive, but with this book, presupposes is maybe he's not. So then we get we just have a nice little adolescence. You know, she starts to train. She grows up. And it's like, what's the God killer?

[00:47:30] And she's like this sword that's in a tower. And then she's grown up right and gets her shows up as a teenager. I'm sorry. As a teenager, she's like, please, please. And Connie Nielsen says, fine, sister, you can train her.

[00:47:46] But you got to train her harder than anyone else. Yeah, look, it's a rapid montage. It's right. But if you're sending her in a battle, you got to make her the best of us. And then you see this final training thing.

[00:47:54] She's now full Gal Gadot and she's fucking kicking ass. She's unbelievable. And they're attacking her and Robin Wright's got her and she clangs her bracelets together. Oh my God, title wave. Yeah, there's like a weird sound boom or sonic boom or something.

[00:48:05] That one's like, oh, I've never seen that before. I'll admit the movie is kind of like, you know, we're about. But this is almost like the frozen like the ice moment where it's like, oh, too much power. Is it people scared? Connie Nielsen is like, she doesn't know.

[00:48:18] Like what have I exposed her to? Whatever. I like that it's opening trunk. The movie is very Disney princess, where it's just like this girl who dreams of something bigger has a sense of heroism in her heart, wants the chance to fight.

[00:48:28] But then my other thing about it is apparently she's read every book in existence. She knows everything. But like it's not like we see her doing that, but it's just like she's read all the books because you expect like, OK, set up this

[00:48:38] movie, the culture clash comedy where she doesn't know anything. She knows everything. She just acts weird. That's what I think is why it works. I think there's a lot of needles. This movie has to threaten that's one of them and that's why it works

[00:48:48] because yeah, it's getting a lot of fun out of, oh, culture clash. Like, right, she doesn't know what she's doing in the real world, but it's not that she's stupid or innocent. No, she's just almost like a giant nerd who never left home.

[00:49:01] Yes. Like, and so she just doesn't get some things about sort of social grace. I mean, basically the things she doesn't understand are the stupid things humans do, right? Like get married or like have dances or wear clothes. Also don't carry a shield around all the time.

[00:49:18] Exactly. Don't have shield in sort in case you need to fucking fight someone. But I do love this is like a very dorky performance. I'm playing a character this iconic, you know, and a character that's like quote unquote, sweetly dorkier quote unquote, like, you know,

[00:49:31] whatever, like a mad pixie nerd. No, no, no. It's a very genuine, focused kind of performance. But the thing even this early in the movie I was amazed by was like, they're having her laugh a lot. And one woman is often presented as this very kind of stern.

[00:49:45] She's got it. God, right? Yeah. And this is like this, this character, Diana just loves this shit. She wants to be doing it so badly. And when she's testing her strength and all this, she's giggling all the time, right? Because it's it's thrilling to her.

[00:49:58] And they don't make this character stayed. You know, they don't bird in Gal Gadot or the film with sort of you need the iconic hero shots. They let her function as like a real person, a weird person. She's weird.

[00:50:11] A weird God person, but a real person who when something cool happens, enjoys it. Oh, I just remember the dick joke. It's so good. So Chris, Chris Pine shows up. She's staying on the beach. She's looking at the horizon. Oh, she's classic Disney moment.

[00:50:23] And then what comes out of the sky? A plane by plane. Who's in the plane? Chris Pine, Chris Pine plane. I don't know. I don't know. She rescues him. He's the first boy she's ever seen. And boy, what a cutie. He's a look.

[00:50:39] So we just got to do five minutes on pine. Yeah. Pine's the best. He's the best. Great in this. This guy rules. He fucking rocks in this movie. It's almost unfortunate that he's so good, but he is. Yeah, because you almost want Wonder Woman

[00:50:52] to have an absolutely anonymous love interest. Right. But he's fantastic. Right. And he doesn't overshadow her because she fucking owns this movie. You do a great job, I think, balancing the two of them. But they really, yeah, it's just good pine. I mean, it's like Star Trek pine.

[00:51:06] It's great. Like, like green wood pine. Yeah. You went down in the middle of the forest. He chopped down the tallest pine tree they had. It's very true. He's got an incredible mouth, beautiful lips. Yeah. And apparently above average dick. I mean, no spoilers yet.

[00:51:21] Well, we're spoiling the movie. The movie says it's above average dick. It is canonical within the film Wonder Woman. It's the second superhero movie of 2017 to discuss one of the characters penises. Captain Underpants is the friend. No, Kurt Russell's character in Guardians 2.

[00:51:35] I know, but that was a good joke. Yeah, it was a good job. Thank you. One comedy point. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. No, David, thank you for the point. Thank you for telling me the joke was good after I asked

[00:51:46] you to tell me that the joke was good. Look, Pine shows up. He just whips his dick out and just went, no, no. I mean, he's like, what is this island? A British-American spy. Right. And immediately, kind of nelson's like, oh no. Boy, oh boy.

[00:52:04] Men are bad. They bring war. These people are awful. It's a whole battle sequence we should mention. All these Germans come in and just. I feel like she starts saying bad shit even before. What? In the seconds before the. She's like, I don't like to get mad.

[00:52:16] Throw him back. Right. Then you see on the other side of the invisible wall, they're all searching for him and they touch their hand to the. Break the movie down this much. Because the island is hidden. It is hidden. Yes. Like Brigadon. Like Brigadon, but now.

[00:52:30] Sail into it. Now all of them come in. Yeah. And there's a pretty cool battle sequence between the Amazon warriors and these gun wielding Germans. Right. And it's scary. They've never seen bullets before. It's fucking good actually. I think it's a great sequence.

[00:52:43] People are getting shot with bullets. It's pretty organic. Can throw up her bracelets and the bullets bounce off of them and that is cool, baby. It is cool. Like it. Can go buy me some of those bracelets now. It's weird. Don't do that. Gonna do it. Wonder Woman.

[00:52:59] No, it's just a nice sequence. You feel like, yeah, like you say there's something under threat and Robin Reik is calm. She does and it hurts. We haven't been with her for that long. It hurts, baby. This is this is the power of casting good actors in

[00:53:14] small parts. For sure. Brown rights only been on screen for like, I mean, we should say all these women are just on screen for this first act. Yeah. Yeah. Like honey doesn't come back. That's like, oh look here are a bunch of women over 50 playing substantial roles.

[00:53:30] How old is Connie Nielsen? Do you think I guess 50 51 and Robin right 52. 51. Well, and Connie Nielsen, you know, acted alongside your co-star Valerie Curry in season two of the following. I didn't know that you should ask her about it. I always think that Connie Nielsen is Mrs.

[00:53:49] Calloway and Rushmore. Oh yeah, she is. That's right. Mom, every time I rewatch Rushmore, I go when she was just starting to pop over. That was just when she came over. Pre gladiator. She is of course a Danish actress. She's a Danish actress. Yeah, she was in gladiator.

[00:54:05] She was in one hour photo. Mission to Mars. Yes, that's right. Mission to Mars, the ice harvest, which you've always said is good. Good movie. Nymphomaniac. Oh yeah. Good actors. Apparently she's going to be in Justice League. So that's cool. That's cool.

[00:54:19] I have to go back to the island. Yeah, we have to go back. We have to go back. Yeah, Hippolyta is there. Yeah, so anyway, Pines here. Rubberite dies. Big dick. And she says the thing about the God killer and it goes what? What? And she passes away.

[00:54:31] Yeah, I think she sort of says to her, like you got to be the God killer. Get the God killer. And you think she's talking about the sword. Right. Boiler alert. Wonder Woman's the God killer, baby. It's not the sword. It's it's unbreakable. Actually, this was very breakable.

[00:54:47] Yeah, it is broken. Very quickly. Yeah, almost immediately. So now Wonder Woman goes to her mom. Here's what I like the most. What? There's a well for one, there's the one scene where she talks to Chris Pine about his watch and his member.

[00:55:00] Oh, let's talk about this scene in depth. So yeah, he's got an average above average penis. He's taking a bath. She comes in. Yeah, he stands out. He stands up and then they look at each other and there's this long kind of silent thing

[00:55:12] where it's cutting back and forth between the two of them and their eye lines and whatever. Yeah. And she goes, so are you an example of an average male? She says, are you an average example of your sex? OK. And he says I he is a long pause.

[00:55:25] Long pause. And he said, I would say I'm actually above average. Damn right. He does. And then she looks down and she goes, what's that thing? And he looks straight down at his wiener and he says that's he's very funny. That's oh, you're talking about my watch.

[00:55:38] He doesn't say it like that. He literally says that's oh, that's a watch. Like that's perfect. But there's a moment so good at the comedy. So good. Here's the thing I like about Chris Pine. He literally plays this role. This is why I liked it. Yeah.

[00:55:51] As the female sidekick slash love interest of so many of these movies. Yeah. He's kind of nervous, talks a lot, is constantly frustrated with her and is sort of like, won't you just do this rational thing that I want you to do?

[00:56:04] Like it's sort of always trying to like pull the hero back onto the sort of boring path. You know, and the hero is like, I'm a superhero. I can handle this. Like don't worry about it. Chris Pine is my favorite of the Chris's. Mine too.

[00:56:16] And here's what I like about him a lot. Though I have a real sauce for him for it. So I feel like is a very undervalued Chris. Sure. I just think Pines like a five tool player to me. It's Pine Hemsworth. Evans Pratt. Yep, I stand by that.

[00:56:31] I have to think about it. Yeah, I just know Pine is head and shoulder is my favorite. Sure. And this thing I like about him, the thing I like about him is we've talked a lot on the show about like very handsome actors, some of our favorite boys

[00:56:41] like Colin Farrell, who are pushed into being leading men, but they're really character actors and they're only comfortable if they're playing odd balls. Right. Right. Not so with Chris Pine as well. And then there are people like Tom Cruise who are good at playing the normal guy.

[00:56:52] Of course. Well, this is the movie. You know what I'm saying, right? The conventional hero, what have you? Chris Pine has this weird like Kurt Russell power where he's able to put around it, you know, he plays your straight square jawed hero. He plays your Captain Kirk. Right.

[00:57:11] And he's handsome and he's got blue eyes, you know, but it always feels like he's a little knowing like he's trying to subvert the tropes, even just in his weird line readings or his weird mannerisms. Yep. He's he still lets you get the heroism you want. Right.

[00:57:24] He lets himself be a movie star. Sure. But he's always thrown it a little off rhythm. There's a little odd music, a little odd dancing around it. Yep. And in this scene, it's like already the way he's acting intimidated by Wonder Woman is very similar to Nally Portman

[00:57:40] gushing over Thor in the first Thor. Right. You know, once again. Improved upon the dynamics in Thor. Agreed. But it is he is kind of fangirling out about her. You're amazing. Amazing. Please tell me you're asking about my penis. Oh, no, it's my watch. It's my watch.

[00:57:54] It tells time. And I like that this movie is making some body jokes early on. He tells the watch because what's that for? It tells time, you know, and she goes, what would you need that for?

[00:58:02] And he goes to no one to eat, went to work, went to this. So you let a watch tell you what to do. Yeah. I'm in Amazon. Right. And he's kind of in love with her immediately from this moment. Like this is incredible.

[00:58:12] The strongest minded, purest human being. And she saved his life and she just seems to know what's up. Anyway, she goes, what's going on? Because I'm going to battlefield this and that. Here's this war. What war? The worst. Yes.

[00:58:23] He tells her about World War One and she decides this is Ares is doing. Right. He has returned and I have to stop him. I'm going to disobey my mother much like Moana did her father. Yes. But here's what I like. Agreed.

[00:58:36] So she goes, she starts testing out her powers. You see her climbing the rock wall, she's going to take all this fun scene where she's smiling. Then she takes the sword, she takes the shield and then you see the reflection in the armor.

[00:58:45] The lasso, the lasso of truth. Oh right, which they used on Chris Pine. And we could establish that's a great scene. And that's a scene where you see why he's a fucking good actor because he's got to deliver a lot of exposition about who he is.

[00:58:55] But he never stops playing the lasso hurts. I agree. It's a good scene. A lot of actors would drop the lasso hurts. No, I agree. I agree. I agree. Because now it's getting wordy. I'm just going to forget to play them. Yeah. You're right.

[00:59:05] But the lasso burns a little but it makes people tell the truth. It does. You see all the stuff and you see in the reflection. Oh shit, that's the Wonder Woman armor. You think we're about to reveal her in Wonder Woman?

[00:59:13] No, she's put on a big black coat. She has. And you don't see it for like another hour. You don't see her until the big hero reveal. Which is great. It is great. Which is great because when you see her in the armor, it really fucking counts.

[00:59:23] So now she's got this big black coat on and she's going to go out in the middle of the night in her sailboat with Chris Pine. But then what happens, David? Your favorite thing in the movie? I mean, I guess so.

[00:59:31] It's just that I love that Hippolyte just comes out and says, I get it. I know you got it. You got to go. You're grown up. I get it. Be careful out there. I love you rather than like a whole sequence

[00:59:42] where she like escapes and it's like her defying. You know, I just like that they're like, no, look, they get it like she knows. Yes, it's good. That's all I have to say about the whole movie. Goodbye, Robert. David has dropped the mic on the table.

[00:59:58] It'll make a noise. It's David's own mic. So he doesn't want to damage it. I don't want to do it. She sells away. Yeah. So many cute bits on the sailboat. A lot of bits. OK, so this great bit. This is so great.

[01:00:11] I was giggling a lot and it's a great kind of movie. Giggle where like I'm giggling because you're happy. It's funny, but I'm also just so overjoyed by everything. And this movie is. Charming. I can't believe that you dame to do that. It's so embarrassing.

[01:00:26] But this is the moment where I really kind of went like, God, their chemistry is so good together. The relationship is so cute because it's like it's this inverse power dynamic, which we never seen movies where this guy is so in awe of this one. Right.

[01:00:39] And not in this weird like coveting her kind of like, oh, I'm in a home in a home in a way. But he's just like, God, this is an impressive person. And then so she's like, what?

[01:00:47] You don't want to sleep with me and she's like on the bed and he goes over the corner of the boat. I find a rope and he's like, well, you know, culture and some very, you know, this and that. It's impolite if you're not, you know, to assume.

[01:00:59] So you don't want to. And she's like, what's marriage? And he's like, you go before a judge and say, you'll obey and love and honor. And she's like, is that work? He's like, not really most of the time now. And then she's like, oh, she figures it out.

[01:01:10] She's like, oh, you mean like the pleasure of the flesh? Yeah, I know all about that. And he's like, oh, and she's like, yeah, I mean, our scholars have decided doesn't matter. Right. We're at 12 volumes on that. Right. They said, you know, I know everything about it.

[01:01:22] At this point, he invites her. She invites him over to sleep next to her. So they're lying next to each other, faces really close together, having this awkward conversation, talking around the abstract concept of sex. Sure.

[01:01:30] And she's just like, oh yeah, no, I'm from an island of women. We just realized like, you don't need men for any kind of pleasure. He says, can I read those books? And she said, you won't like them. Right. We realize men aren't good for pleasure.

[01:01:40] And he goes, well, that's not true. Not always true. And then they just lie fully clothed next to each other on a boat. Show up in London. Well, hold on, hold on. I just want to say fully clothed, sleeping on a boat,

[01:01:53] non sexually, my number one sexual fantasy. Go on. You're disgusting. I hope to never have sex with you. I want to wonder woman so badly. I want to find my Steve Trevor. Steve. Wonder woman on a boat. Such a cutie. Now they land in London, England. London.

[01:02:10] B F J. They have you listen back to the episode. I was so amused every time I said that, I'm sure other people were. I was actually really good. Up J. Now, David, let me ask you, have you ever been to London? I grew up there. Really?

[01:02:24] Yeah, ages from the age of nine to 22. You should talk about this on the podcast. I lived in London, England. So how would you compare this depiction of London to where you grew up? Well, it's said about 100 years earlier. OK, so it's a little smoky. Sure.

[01:02:41] A lot of factory and coal fires and all that stuff. We see an escape artist on a street corner. We see a man in chains and a straight jacket trying to free himself of chains in the 19 teens. Harry Koudini style.

[01:02:53] You've got the new you go under Tower Bridge. David, when you lived in London, when you lived in London, were there any Wonder Women? No. You left too soon, I guess. I guess so or too late. I don't know. Yes.

[01:03:13] No, the only woman they meet is Lucy Davis of the Office fame gone from the office as Ada Candy. Is that I'm not actually very good on Wonder Woman. I have never read a Wonder Woman comic in my life. I've read some but not much.

[01:03:25] I've ever come in. She's in. She is a character. She's a character. Commonly the best friend of Wonder Woman. Steve Trevor, secretary, but very quickly starts to align herself with Wonder Woman because she's like this person's great. This woman has similar views.

[01:03:37] When I saw the trailer, yeah, there was like some bit where she's like, I wouldn't mind a bit of fisticuffs if it comes to it. And I was like, fuck, fuck this joke. I was like, Jesus. But in the movie, it works. It's fine.

[01:03:50] I mean, but in general also the movie has been fun up till then, right? You know, rather than it's not like the movie falls through a wall and is like, you know, it's good. But I remember when I saw the trailer, I was like, oh my God.

[01:04:02] But isn't that doesn't that joke happen in the context of like, you know, wouldn't mind a bit of fisticuffs, although we should get the right to vote first? Sure. She's making some jokes about that. Something larger. She says, like, women don't really fight.

[01:04:15] We use our integrity, which is how we'll get to vote. Yes, right. Right, right, right. Exactly. She's funny. But then they take around. They got to try to teach her how to sort of fit into society. But what I like is they don't do too much.

[01:04:27] No, they do like five minutes. They're fun five minutes. It's turning into some like comedy of manners where one woman has to go to a wedding and she accidentally like, you know, whatever throws her shield in the cave. There's a fun sequence where they bring her to like,

[01:04:38] I'm trying to think of like a good bit. Like someone throws the bouquet and she's like, no. One of the things I love is they don't just make her best. Like she does have this childlike joy and curiosity about everything. The thing where she sees a baby

[01:04:51] and she's like, oh, baby. Because there are no babies on her island. Steve Trevor is like, that one ain't made out of clay. Well, what do you mean? It's made out of jism. We're getting close to my favorite moment in the entire movie, which I'll get to.

[01:05:03] I'll tell you in a second. But there's now there's clothing montage where they try to put an outfit on her. They try and dress her up because she looks crazy. Yeah. She's got a sword. And conspicuous. And so they put all these outfits on her.

[01:05:14] She's like, I can't kick in this. This is the best moment of the movie. I can't punch in this. Right. So she can't deal with this dress. She can't deal with this corset, yada, yada, yada. Right. She's generally again, one of the things I enjoy

[01:05:24] is that she's always just, she's like, why the fuck do you do this thing? It seems stupid. That's counterintuitive. And no one ever has an explanation past like, well, that's just what we do. She's very practical. She doesn't understand these sort of like social moors.

[01:05:34] Like they don't make any sense to her. Why not do the thing that makes the most sense? Right. I want to kill Aries. Let me kill Aries. Yeah. She's like, Aries has started the war. Let's just go to Aries right now.

[01:05:44] If there's a war going on, that's what Aries says. Let me find him and kill him. And Steve Trevor is like, it's complicated. They're like, tradies. Yeah. He's like, I mean, talking about it. And she's like, let me just get the.

[01:05:55] This is the end of World War One. World War One is drawing to a close in this movie. Right. England's negotiating like a surrenders. Yes. The armistice. Yes. But she gets out and now she's got the right suit. She's got kind of this. She looks fantastic.

[01:06:09] She looks phenomenal. She's got this black coat to the floor and this hat. And the blazer. And she's got like a kind of a reasonable skirt on where she still has leg flexibility and all this. She's not wearing pants? Maybe she's wearing pants. I can't remember.

[01:06:22] But we just saw it. Yeah. We just saw it. And yeah, we said this to your girlfriend, Joanna, when she was when we were talking to her before we started recording, no spoilers to tell her what we thought of the movie. True.

[01:06:33] And they said it was one of those movies. And this is the best compliment I can give to a movie like this. One of those movies were, while I was watching it, I kept on thinking, man, I can't wait to watch this again. Yeah.

[01:06:43] Like it wasn't even over yet. And I was like, I'm going to have fun watching the scene a second time. So what's your favorite part? Well, it's not the one you think I'm going to say. What is it? That's my second favorite part. What?

[01:06:52] They put the outfit on her. Right. And Chris Pines like, you were supposed to make her look into a picture of she's gorgeous. The most incredible person I've ever seen. I'm in love with her. I'm in love with her. I'm in love with her. Right. Above average penis.

[01:07:02] Right. And then Lucy Davis puts glasses on her. Right. Or Chris Pine does and she goes like, are you kidding? What do you think? No glasses. No one's going to notice that she was a beautiful woman that's ever existed. A little Clark Kent joke there.

[01:07:14] It's a little Clark Kent joke. Yeah. But glasses are going to cover anything up. Is that your favorite bit? No. OK. So they get out of there. They go and meet with David Thule. Yes. Who is a man who's trying to stop the war. He loves peace.

[01:07:25] Sir Patrick Morgan. Peace. Love in Patrick. Yes. And he's clearly got Steve Trevor respects. And Steve Trevor is going like, look. Trevor, by the way, has the reason he crashes playing is he took, he's a spy and he took this. Oh my god. I can't believe.

[01:07:40] Poisons from the poison. We haven't even talked about my favorite character in the film. We're going to get to Dr. Poison in a second. And... Because Dr. Poison's my favorite character. So he... This is the point where we should talk about Dr. Poison.

[01:07:53] Because he goes to David Thule's list and goes, look, I'm a spy. Here's the information I got. This guy, Ludenbacher. His name is Ludendorff, General Eric Ludendorff. Played by Danny Houston. Correct. And every time he showed up on screen,

[01:08:06] David leaned over to me and said, is he a bad guy? Yes. That was my bit. The joke is you cast Danny Houston movie, it's telegraphed that he's a bad guy. And everything he does on screen is very, very evil. He's also a German general.

[01:08:19] So I guess that's a bad sign. And he's huffing super drugs and saying evil things. Right. So the idea is that he is... Fuck, Jesus. Ares. Right. She's like, this must be Ares in this house. And you see him huffing the drugs in his face clothes.

[01:08:34] His face gets real. He's Ares. He's Ares. But anyway. She's got... He's got this assistant or not even. He's got... He's got a poison maker. So she had a mad scientist. Elena Anaya? Is that her name? Elena Anaya, yes. From The Skin I Live In, a great actress.

[01:08:50] She was also in... What else has she been in? I think she's been in some of the Alamedo movies or another. Or she in The... I'm so excited. The big thing is she was the lead in The Skin I Love In. Yeah, no, no, for sure.

[01:09:03] She's great in that movie. Yeah. Yes. I mean, she's in a lot of Spanish movies. I know she's in The Land of Women, the Adam Brody movie. I know she's in that. Oh, that's a rough one. Thank you. I agree. She plays a character named Dr. Poison.

[01:09:15] Dr. Poison has a segmented mask on her face because she burned off some of her face with poison. And that's because she makes poison. She's the doctor of the poison. Yeah, it's a subtle performance, but she is a villain in the film. She is a bad person.

[01:09:30] She's one of the film's villains. She is one of the people you don't like because they're not good. You might be able to tell by her name, which is to reiterate... Dr. Poison. Yes, and the ceramic mask she has on her burned up face. Right.

[01:09:44] It's like, what's it's name? Jack Houston's mask in Borough Rock Empire, except if it had more pieces. And was a little less sort of creepy and her soul shaking. Correct. No fake eye, but she's got fake nose. She's got a fake side of her mouth, fake cheek.

[01:09:58] And she loves poison. You see her making poison. And she really... It doesn't seem like it's another day at the office. She loves making poison. She just wants to make poison. You see a lot of her giggling. She's full on glee at the poison she makes.

[01:10:09] At first they try a poison that seems fairly effective, but they're not into it. She cares about the work so much. But then she's like, not good enough. And she's like, oh, what if I made this poison? Hydrogen. It dissolves a face. It would be...

[01:10:20] Even gas masks wouldn't be able to protect you from this poison. What's your point about your favorite scene in involving David Thule's and Sir Patrick Morgan? It's not. It's the scene right after this. OK. They present this information. They need to go get this guy.

[01:10:34] We have to go. We have to bomb the lab where they're making the poison because if it gets up in the air and they drop it, everyone's fucked. Right. And they're like, no, no peace. No more war. Good guys, bad guys.

[01:10:46] Everyone's going to die if they drop this. What's your favorite bit? And Wonder Woman's like, take me with you. I need to get to Aries. And he's like, OK, I'll take you with me. And they go to the train station. And when they're getting on the train,

[01:10:59] he goes, do you want an ice cream? And this is a good moment. Buys her. This is the moment where I just was like... I mean, I think someone's just going, ice cream, ice cream. And she's like, you want ice cream? Here's an ice cream.

[01:11:09] And he hands her an ice cream. And she takes a long lick of this vanilla cone. Doesn't know how to deal with it, but then she eats it. And he's walking ahead. He doesn't have time to focus on this. And she turns to him and he goes...

[01:11:18] Turns to the ice cream sailor. I send her. And turns to Pine. Pine. He chases. She chases after Pine after she's had her first real taste of ice cream. And she goes, oh, it's just wonderful. Right. But then she turns to the ice cream vendor

[01:11:31] and says, you must be very proud or something like that. And it's so charming. Oh my god, it's adorable, man. She just is the... She's slugging me great. She loves the world. She loves life. She loves joy. Sure. She loves fighting, but she also loves ice cream.

[01:11:47] And she's so pure without being a simple team. What you're getting at here exactly is that it is not doing what the Snyder movies did with Superman and Batman, which is make them tortured by their heroism, make them alien and remove from the world and hateful,

[01:12:03] almost in dark. Or doing what Thor does where it's like, well, he's stupid because he doesn't understand the complexities of things. Well, sure. A lot of the Marvel heroes started as overly arrogant. Yeah. I mean, the fun of Thor is essentially that he's a Viking. Right.

[01:12:15] So he's like, bring me a horse. Yeah. I mean, he's funny too. He's not dissimilar to Wonder Woman, but you're right. She's more delighted. She's a good person. And you know what? It's the same thing I said I liked about Moana, which is Moana isn't... Moana.

[01:12:29] Remember the question. Hey! Moana. The thing I like that both of these movies do is consider the coconut. They do consider it. The other thing I like both these movies do, beginning in Moana, I think our people need this on the island. And her dad's like, no.

[01:12:48] And it's not like Coraline where it's like, I'm a bratty kid. I have to go on an adventure and then I learned that I was wrong and my should have listened my dad all along. Yeah, Coraline's different. Coraline's about growing up. I know. I know the different movies.

[01:12:58] I know the different movies. What I'm saying is the thing that Moana and Wonder Woman both do is have these central characters who really fantasize about being able to help other people. Yes. It's not selfish. It's I want to help my people. I want to protect people.

[01:13:11] Her heart like aches literally for the humans she keeps seeing who looks at. And natively heroic. She can't believe how sad things are in this world. Yeah, she cannot believe it and she wants to help everybody. She's so driven by genuine passion and empathy.

[01:13:25] Thank you for being like... Well, it was chill. Like yeah, I mean like hopefully we're gonna help people. It's a war. It's complicated. We got a lot of things to do, everything that's time. And she wants to stop and tend after every person.

[01:13:34] And yeah, both Moana and Wonder Woman are stories of women learning how to become the most effective heroes they can be. Not learning how to care. You know? Agreed. Which I love. So. And she loves ice cream. She thinks it's just wonderful. It's great.

[01:13:49] It's a great movie star moment. And then it is a great moment. And then Pine's like fine, you know what? Fuck those guys. I'm gonna lie. And she's like you're lying. Oh my God. Because she doesn't really get that either. And then...

[01:14:01] And she's like if you're lying to him, then why should I believe you? And he ties the lasso truth to his own arm. And he says we're all probably gonna die. Why am I doing this? This is a terrible idea, which is very cute. Yeah.

[01:14:12] And then he assembles a team. Okay, we got a nice little skeleton crew. You love this team. Is there was there a bad thing in this team? No, this team is great. Because a lot of these movies you, you establish a team

[01:14:24] like the Helen Commandoes and Captain America. I was about to say Captain America. I like seeing like David Luke and Neil McDonough. Dum dum doog in rules. But then it's like who the fuck are these? I think of that French rap guy. Who are these other characters?

[01:14:35] They don't do anything. In this one you got three guys. You got Ewan Brenner. Also known as Spudsy from Trainspotting. Spud and Trainspotting. He plays an expert marksman who is also a drunk. Yes, he plays Charlie. Yes.

[01:14:50] He's a man clearly haunted by the amount of people he's killed. Who deals with it by drinking and singing. Right. He's great and lovely. Lovely. And I like him. I like him too. He's a nice friend. There's Said Takmahoui.

[01:15:02] As I always say, he's got a tough name to pronounce. I apologize to him. He's French. I believe he plays Tunnel Rat in G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra. I had no idea. I believe the character he plays is named Tunnel Rat.

[01:15:15] I mean, I first heard of him in hideous kinky. Oh, yeah. Back in the day, which I believe he is the love interest in. But he's been in so many things. He's a lot of shows. He was on loss of fairly Caesar, a fairly boring role.

[01:15:27] Anyway, he's just been around. He plays Sameer, who is the best. He wants my number one character. He wants to be an actor. But as he says, he was born the wrong color. And so instead he must become a fighter. He's a master of disguise.

[01:15:42] He has secret agent. Yeah. He's goddamn hilarious. He he loves Gal Gadot all about her. She is he's saying I won't go on this mission. And then she's like, I'm coming. He's like, I'm coming too in more ways than one. Luckily does not say that because he does.

[01:15:57] That's verbatim. That's a line from the mail. He delivers it the exact same way. He goes, I'm coming to in more ways than one. He turns into like a weird Pachino. Yeah, everybody, look at me. Well, I'm coming in more ways than one.

[01:16:14] Every time I think I'm out, they come me back in. This is the worst thing you've ever done. I'm out of Pachino. Roger Roger. What's he up to recently? Pachino. Danny Collins. Great. And then there's Eugene Brave Rock. Chief as chief. He knows the land. A weapons dealer.

[01:16:40] He's a weapons dealer. He knows the land. He's just kind of a fun guy to have around. I don't know how else to put it. He just sort of, I guess the idea with him is because there's this early moment where she's like,

[01:16:49] why do you traffic on both sides of this? Why are you a war profiteer? Right. And he's like, last war killed my people. So I'm just trying to stay alive. And she says, you know, he killed your people. He points at Chris Bynes like his people.

[01:17:01] And it's just like, I feel like we're just throwing her into this thing where like, she, you know, she's like, why are why does everyone hate each other? And stupid. You're man, like you are the the Zeus's creation. Why don't you just love like you were supposed to.

[01:17:14] This movie also does, I think, just the right amount of people telling Wonder Woman she can't do stuff because she's a woman. Sure. Like we haven't talked about this much because it happens just in enough moments. That's hard to remember all of them when she goes

[01:17:26] and they're arguing David Thoulas and hit guys and they go, what is a woman doing here speaking here? Fiddlesticks. Right. All this stuff. And she just has this like she doesn't understand prejudice. Right. Like she doesn't understand why. Of course, because she's an actor.

[01:17:41] Why does it matter if you're not white? Right. If I want to do this. She doesn't understand sexism because yeah. Right. It's not a thing on an all women island. Right. And she she starts to have to become more and more

[01:17:51] empowered because she realizes people aren't going to take her seriously as much. But it's it's just kind of a quiet through line throughout the movie. It never stops being an issue, but it never becomes the entire story. Now honestly, once all this has happened. Yeah.

[01:18:05] Even though there's still a lot of movie left, I'd say there's probably an hour more movie. Yeah. There's actually nothing much more. This is why it sort of just becomes an action movie and we've had some good fight scenes up until now.

[01:18:15] A little bit of fight scenes, but then there's just a lot of sustained. They arrive on the front. There's a whole scene on the front that we will cover. And then they cross the, you know, into German lines and then there's just a whole long set piece behind

[01:18:29] German lines. Yeah. And that's it. Yeah. I mean, there's a behind German lines. There's a party sequence and a sort of big battle. Sure. But it's pretty fluid, pretty connected. Yeah. There's not really much more plot and happily for Marvel. There isn't.

[01:18:44] I mean, happily comparing it to like Marvel or whatever. It's not like she has to get the over Jim put it into the throne of maybe or whatever. You know, just it's just she wants to kill Aries. You and I disagree marginally on the effectiveness of the ending.

[01:19:02] But what I like about it is in terms of visually what's being represented, it's a little same with a lot of the stuff we see. It feels like, oh, it's glowing orbs and big explosions and all this.

[01:19:10] But it feels very focused where it's like she's fighting one person and that fight is philosophical. Agreed. It's a foregone conclusion. The the import or whatever the narrative. You're just saying literally the visual. Oh, right. I mean, look, the actions movie is mostly fine to good.

[01:19:27] I think the movie has a good look. Yeah. Colorful. It's clear. It's not Snydery like it's doing its own thing. I'll say this too. For like, hey Jenkins who's coming from Monster and TV. Sure. This is a complicated movie.

[01:19:39] A lot of pieces, a lot of scale, a lot of sets, a lot of actors. Sure. A lot of stunts, a lot of effects. Yeah. There is a real intentionality to this film. Yeah. It reminds me of, you know, an earlier kind of like Ambulan 90s level

[01:19:55] of blockbuster filmmaking where it was like every piece is put in there very purposefully and every line sets up a joke or it sets up a plot point and there are nice. I mean, there are shots where they kind of hold for a moment.

[01:20:05] You see there's a shot I love where Danny Houston gases a bunch of his fellow generals, fellow generals. Yeah. And he leaves a gas mask. Right. And she goes, Dr. Poison says they want her and he goes, they won't know that. Right.

[01:20:23] You see them all in sides and David said, is that a bad guy? Then he's in place of villain. And then they're all scrambling for the gas mask and then it cuts to Dr. Poison and she's looking through a window watching them die

[01:20:35] and running her hand along the cracks and is like, OK, that's this character. She loves watching terrible things happen. She's bad. It's not it's not subtlety in terms of characterization, but it's salty in terms of like giving everyone a kind of full sense of existence. I agree.

[01:20:49] Here's my complaint. Yeah. It's just, you know, some of that speed ramping. I that's my only complaint actually. I think the action sequences are pretty well to be clear is that it's the exact night or loves it.

[01:21:00] The thing where it sort of slows down and then speeds up. I don't give a shit about that. I've never thought it looked cool and I don't like it when it happens in this. It doesn't take me out of it.

[01:21:07] It's an easy thing to criticize because I feel like now everyone knows who it is because they like to make fun of Zack Snyder movies. But when you see it in this movie, it just usually doesn't really seem that necessary for especially because even though

[01:21:17] she's super powerful, she is kind of a ground level fighter. It's not like what's going on is crazy enough that you need to slow it down in order to track visually what's happening. No, I mean, her power is she can jump. Yep.

[01:21:28] She can deflect bullets with her cool bracelets, which I'm going to buy a choice or us. Yeah, got a shield. She has a sword. Yeah, she's got a lasso. She's got a zips around. Yeah, strong. That's that.

[01:21:37] I love that the lasso looked like a cartoon to look like cowboy Curtis's last look as good. In my opinion, as Yandu's awesome. Yeah, which looks the best. Whistling arrow and the whole sequence where he kills all the people in Guardians and you can see the neon trailer

[01:21:52] leaves. That's wonderful. Yandu though. Yandu though. Yandu is not in Wonder Woman. It's a different movie guys. Chill out. I kept on waiting every scene for Yandu because in every scene, Wonder Woman says, where's Yandu? Doesn't suck that Yandu isn't in most movies.

[01:22:07] He should be in like every movie. Every movie like Forget Paris. Put him in that one more like Remember Yandu. I was trying to think of the most irrelevant movie ever made and I came up with Forget Paris. Is that the the Gina Coppola movie? Eleanor Coppola movie?

[01:22:22] No, you're this is the Billy Crystal Deborah Winger movie. That's the what Billy Crystal Deborah Winger in 1995 directed by Billy Chris. Yeah, as he where he plays an NBA referee. Anyway, I'm they talked about that movie a lot. Joe Montaigne is in the movie.

[01:22:37] They talk about Forget Paris in Wonder Woman. A lot. No, they talk about Forget Paris a lot and inside the actor studio that Billy Crystal episode. Oh, sure. And it just feels like Billy Crystal was like, can we please

[01:22:47] talk about Forget Paris as much as we talk about when Harry Metzell and try to make it seem like they're of equal accomplishment. Mr. Saturday Night's pretty good. He's talked about that a lot too. Yeah. All right. Well, Billy, he's had a weird career blank check about him.

[01:22:59] You want to do it? How many movies he directed in total? 61 Forget Paris. Mr. Saturday Night. Let me see if there's any others before we say anything else. I have to know. Let's just hold. Hold. He's here. I have seven directing credits here they are.

[01:23:13] Okay, likely stories volume three segment split decision. I don't know what that is. Yeah, not TV doesn't count. Not real. The original comic relief special. OK. No, I'm going through the mall. Yeah, we're not going to. I know, I know, I'm going to go through all of it.

[01:23:28] But while you're doing this, this is what I'm going to do. And don't get me started. The Billy Crystal special. Billy Crystal, don't get me started. The Lost Minutes. Mr. Saturday Night. Forget Paris 61. All right, that's enough about Billy Paris. OK. Billy Paris, Billy Crystal.

[01:23:45] Yeah, Billy Crystal Yandu though. There are some, I think, Petty Jenkins is very well in this film and it also, you know, comes on the scripting. Sure. Credit town, Heisenberg or whatever. Oh, Heisenberg. Okay, that was close.

[01:23:57] Zack Snyder has a story credit as DCU bros like to tell us over and over again. They'll tell us. So how dare we not give Zack Snyder credit for the first good movie in this fucking franchise? Sure. The thing I think this movie does really well

[01:24:11] and at times it reminded me it's not at this level, but it's like the thing everyone goes, oh, I want to make a movie like Indiana Jones, but they don't get this is that the action sequences need to have story beats and character beats within them.

[01:24:21] It can't just be punch, punch, punch, punch, whether it's a joke, whether it's a bit of development or a realization that reveals something about who they are. Sure. And there are these great moments. There's one where they're in a back alley and a bunch of guys,

[01:24:31] spies who come after them start shooting at Chris Pine and he goes get back. And when they do care of it, it hits her bull. Nevertheless, she persisted. This is what a feminist looks like. Yes, he treats you.

[01:24:42] But he catches the bullet in his hands and it's hot and then he puts together what happened. Very funny. It's really funny. And throughout the movie, they keep on having these moments that there there is a straightforwardness, a crispness minus the speed ramping to how the actual

[01:24:56] physical fights play out, which I really liked. Sure. It's good. I like this movie a lot. And then they get to the line, the front. Yes. And immediately some poor woman to wonder woman is like, help us please, they've taken our village.

[01:25:09] And she's like, we have to help them. They've taken the village. Chris Pine's like, we got to go like a mile that way down the front and then we're going to find a secret way across. She's getting like so upset. She's like, fuck that.

[01:25:19] He's like, you don't understand. He's like, we can't handle this. And he's like, she's like, well, I can handle it. And then she finally reveals the costume. It's unbelievable. I mean, I'm getting filled with trenches right now. It's very nice for everything we just do the theme.

[01:25:30] You haven't seen her Wonder Woman armor. Now she's in the front line. Everyone's like, what the fuck? Yeah. And you go POV of a bullet flying towards her and she just fucking a wonder woman is that shit. So that's a cool scene where they get across. It rules.

[01:25:44] They get to a little town. They take out a sniper. She like throws herself at a church and knocks it out. Yeah, they take like the hood of a car and they use it as a springboard for her to jump and she uses her. So it's cool.

[01:25:56] That's cool. Well, stuff happens. Then she dances with Chris Pine and they book. OK, so do you think they fully fall? Yeah. David's being gross. He's making a gross face. I'd fuck him. I would fuck him too. No, no, they kiss. I think they made love. Gross.

[01:26:15] And they go to bed. Basically, she started dancing. It's really sweet. They talk about the humanity and how great it is. The snow for the talk about how good the movie is. They talk. They're like, this movie's going really well. Very great job.

[01:26:29] People were hoping it'd be like a six at a best, but we're actually like with an eight. I think it's eight or nine. There's that moment she sees the snow. It's just like she just loves the world. She wants to save us. She's Wonder Woman.

[01:26:41] She is Wonder Woman. They also never say Wonder Woman the entire moment. That's true. I was waiting for the dumb jokes where they were going to go like, well, some kind of wonder. Wonder Woman. What a wonder it is to see a woman in Parliament.

[01:26:52] Such a wonder comma woman. Yes. Never say it. Don't do that. She's the princess. No, all they do is talk about Yondu. We haven't been mentioning enough. It's crazy when they assemble the team. They're like, but is Yondu part of the team?

[01:27:08] And then you and Browner is like, where is Yondu? I couldn't. Yeah. Yondi and Chris Bynes like he's in space. I told you. God. Yondu. Yeah, it's a weird deal. They cut where they were like, we'll share one character. Yondu. Yondu.

[01:27:26] And then there's the closing sequence, which is the castle. The sort of I was really worried the party scene was going to be big. Me too. Because like, you know, again, dress, he pretends to be a German soldier.

[01:27:38] You're going to make the like, you know, the lady action movie be about her putting on a dress and like dancing her way. But no, it's immediate. It's like it's like. And again, it's mostly her being like, all your spice. It's stupid.

[01:27:49] I just want to stab Aries in the heart. And she dances with him and she has this weird interrogation conversation where she feels like he admits that he's Aries. She only wears the dress with any minutes and they get to sell that toy of her in the dress.

[01:28:00] Sure. Right. And then she confronts Danny Houston and he's like, who are you? And then sniffs his like steroids. He's got glow face going. He's got to go. I mean, that's stupid or whatever. It doesn't matter. Then she stabs him through the heart.

[01:28:13] And I was very pleased because I was like, there's 20 minutes left of this movie. Thank God Danny Houston wasn't the lead villain. You were overjoyed because I was also when it was announced, I was like, fucking Danny Houston. He's so washed up. Like that's your villain.

[01:28:28] But the movie was playing a trick on us. They knew we were going to think that so we'd keep our eye off of the ball. Sure. They prestige just if you will. I guess so. They pulled a prestige, David. Right.

[01:28:39] And it turns out the villain who just shows up. David Thuleist. He's. Fools. He was himself. And like really all they had was him or Lucy Davis. Like it's not like someone else is going to be like in his eye.

[01:28:53] No one else had more than five lines over the first movie. And so Thuleist is like, I'm Ari's, the God of War. And that's why I'm pushing for peace. Doesn't actually make sense. Don't think about it.

[01:29:03] But he also says like his main thing is when I first saw you, I was like, me a fucking kill you right now. But then I was like, wait a second. No, let her go on this dumb mission.

[01:29:12] Let her get on the battlefront and see how horrible humans are. And you'll agree with me, these people fucking suck. Let's wipe them out. And she has a sort of like crisis of faith. But right before this, right before this, she has her kind of tearful goodbye

[01:29:26] with Chris Pine. They have a really big argument that cuts off a little bit premature. Right? Yeah. I've seen that's really good. And here's a petty Jenkins touch I loved. Go ahead. Just the amount of space she gives to performance in this movie.

[01:29:40] He's giving this long monologue about how it doesn't work. And she's going like, but that's not we have to save people. And he's saying like, maybe I suck too. I don't know. We're not all as good as you. Right? We're just trying to do our job.

[01:29:49] Right, you know, I know, I know. And in the middle of a take, he brushes the hair off of his forehead. No. And I thought that was really interesting because he does that because you're watching it and his hair is kind of dangling low.

[01:29:59] No, he's frustrated by it. And then he just does it. And it says a lot about him as an actor that he was like, he dares do it. Right. And be the petty Jenkins chose that take because it's the most human. It's a great take.

[01:30:09] And it's a good thing where he is frustrated by her because he knows he's not as good as her. He knows he's not as good as her and he's just a spy who like has to sort of wean on lies way through life.

[01:30:20] And they don't overblow this, but they had that line earlier. She goes, so why are you a spy? And he goes, well, I realize you can do nothing or you could do something. I already tried nothing. Right.

[01:30:28] And so it's like this guy who has this weird kind of regret about inactivity in the past. And then they split up. She's kind of angry at him because she doesn't understand. Right. And then she kills Aries because her whole thing, he's like,

[01:30:38] no, we got to deal with this poison cash. And he's like, if I kill Aries, everything solved. She stabs Danny Houston through the heart. Nothing happens. David Thula shows up and is like, don't you get how bad humans are now? Right.

[01:30:51] And it also says you are the God killer. It's not the weapon. It's you. You're the one who's supposed to kill me. Okay. But the thing that makes her realize that she has to pick humans sure is that while the Danny Houston fights going on side mission

[01:31:04] with her boys, they're realizing, okay, the plane is loaded up with Dr. Poison. Poison. Yeah. Poison plane. We can't shoot the plane down. One could call it a poison. One could call it a poison plane.

[01:31:14] I mean, if one were a sewing client, he realizes I got to get behind the wheel of this plane. Right. He asks if Yondu's available and Yondu is still in space. Still in space. He has to get behind the plane.

[01:31:23] He's like, I got to get in this plane. I got to fly it into the sky so that no one dies. Yes. Classic. Right. And she sees this and freaks out. She sees him getting on the plane. No, it's a very nice scene.

[01:31:33] So it's in the middle of the Aries fight. Right. Her ears are ringing and he comes up to her, talks to her, gives her his watch. She doesn't hear anything that says your ears are ringing. And I was kind of like stunned by the scene because I'm like,

[01:31:43] it's obvious Chris Pine is going to die. Yeah. And I'm like, are they really sending him off with that? Like, is it supposed to just be like we get it? Here's his hero's death. And so she's in the middle of this fight with Aries.

[01:31:52] By the way, David Thulis uses telekinesis to make an armor out of airplane detritus. I don't know. I'm totally fine with all this. David was a lot more annoyed than I was. I mean, I'm not annoyed by it, but I'm just sort of like it.

[01:32:04] It's a little perfunctor. It's a little perfunctor. Kind of like say Bridges and Iron Man where you're like, yeah, someone's got to be a villain at the end of this thing. It does feel like it, but it feels thematically tied because the fight is over.

[01:32:15] Do humans deserve our protection or not? I agree. And then in the middle of this fight as she's sort of whatever as she's beaten down, right? She's like, oh God, am I going to lose this fight? Is this even worth it?

[01:32:25] She looks up in the sky and she sees the plane explode. Yes. You have a moment with Chris Pine where he's sitting. I believe she's pinned in that scene. Yes, she's stuck in like a weird metacorpsis and Chris Pine is in the plane. Great scene. Thanks to her.

[01:32:39] They hold on. Oh, they hold on in for a while. Here's the thing. This is why this movie is good. Gal Gadot and Chris Pine, two actors who really know how to own a close-up. I totally agree. Right? This is a great close-up movie.

[01:32:50] The close-up with him when he kills himself is extremely good. And then they caught away before he fires the weapon. You see him there? He's probably 30 seconds. He looks back, he loads his gun, he's going to shoot it. He looks forward, he thinks about her. He laughs.

[01:33:05] He smiles, he laughs. Then he closes his eyes and he comes in terms with it and he shoots back when the plane explodes and he saves everybody and she sees that. He's dead. This isn't some fucking bullshit. This isn't McFury, he's dead.

[01:33:18] He's dead and she realizes he did it. He wasn't just talk, he wasn't just lying. He did the thing. He sacrificed his life to save other people. And she says that on my island, the captains would do anything to protect their people.

[01:33:30] She said this earlier, she's alarmed at the generals. We would die for them, our generals. And so she sees, yes, it's great. It's good. And then of course... After he said, I'm not good, I'm not good. He didn't try to play the hero,

[01:33:40] but she sees his actions speak louder than words. And then she blows Aries up, she stabs him. But then when did you have the flashback to what Chris Pine said to her? I think it's there or right after. I mean, it's whatever happened. And it's just so good.

[01:33:56] He says I love him. Gives me the watch. Doesn't give her that dick though. He doesn't. Would have been nice. It would have been polite. So you think they fucked on that night? I don't know. I think they did hand stuff. I'm just saying they're two hot people.

[01:34:12] I agree. I think they did hand stuff. We'll have time to do the rest of it later. Let's leave a little tension. Maybe. I think they did a lot of hand stuff. You said that almost angrily. Yeah. I think they did a lot of hand stuff.

[01:34:25] And then that's the movie. Yeah, and then it cuts back and we remember. Oh, right. This was a memory play. No, here's the one thing we forgot. What? Dr. Poison is presented essentially to Wonder Woman as an example of how wrong you think you are.

[01:34:40] Aries is like look at this person and he sort of revealed that he was influencing everyone behind the scenes sort of low key style kind of whispering in their ear. He says I was giving them plans of fan web

[01:34:47] ideas but then they chose to use them on their own. He's going behind them and whispering. He's kind of like skipping the scale a little bit. Did you hear that joke I just made though? I did, it was a great joke.

[01:34:55] I tried to whisper to you during the movie but it felt like we were too wrapped up and then I was like yeah, yeah, okay. And she had to rest. It's kind of like when you tried to tell me that Ken Lung was in Force Awakens.

[01:35:06] And I was like yeah, no, I know. Probably the most exciting moment of my life. So he's whispering everything but he's like but they chose to do on their own. Right. He's presenting Dr. Poison, my best friend. Yeah, Griffin's best friend. My favorite character. Yandu's second best friend.

[01:35:20] Her mask is melted off. She looks all fucked up. And the wind and he's going like don't you see this as an example? And I don't think it's quintessential. And she looks pathetic. She looks like in Wonder Woman Pity's her. But it's also like a God.

[01:35:29] What's he doing? He's pitting women against women. That's true. This is what a feminist looks like. This is what a feminist looks like. But nevertheless, she persists and she throws the tag. Sorry, this is just my new bit when anytime

[01:35:42] I think someone is making like a lame attempt to be you know whatever, avowedly feminist. I just say that. We know there is only one. I feel bad. Let's say let's say about this in this terrible time that we live a lot.

[01:35:55] A lot of male feminism is really for show. It's presentation. Yeah, like the kind that we have. Right. Exactly. There's only one real blank checks. Yeah, feminism. Right. We hate this movie. Yeah, shit. Yeah. And it's all about how Ghostbusters.

[01:36:08] I wish the movies about her killing the female Ghostbusters. I mean, yeah. Um, there's only one real male feminist who you can trust. And who's that? His name is Yandu. He lives in space. Exactly. Huge feminist. Love Wonder Woman. Great movie. Like Ghostbusters 2. Don't like Ghostbusters.

[01:36:26] No, but it's true. You're right. You pitch back to her and she writes an email to like Bruce Wayne at gmail.com. Yeah. And I'll say thanks for sending the picture homeboy. This was like the one moment of the movie. This was almost.

[01:36:40] And then she says the meme. It's weird. She says smell ya later. And she attaches that gift of the monkey smelling the finger after he stuck it in his butt. And then like some sunglasses come down and deal with it. And that's the end of the movie.

[01:36:55] And then Chris finds like Yandu though. Yeah. And then the end credit stingers they team up with Tase on day. What is this bit? There's actually we saw no end credits bits. Yeah, maybe they're gonna add when you weren't strong

[01:37:11] it's us because they knew we were going to podcast. That's right. Yes, they knew we were going to sign a form before the movie saying will you podcast or no we were a bunch of bad boys and we said no podcastie. That's not. No, that's true.

[01:37:24] They didn't ask us anything other than to see our backpacks. They said who are you guys? Why don't you shave? I really need to shave. But the point here is sure in the way the the thuless you know perfunctory now I'm a CGI man big battle.

[01:37:44] I think I'm in yes I felt like the script was pretty good at being you know it's not incredibly subtle but it's detailed and it's loving and it's very genuine. And the way they deal with the pine relationship is really

[01:37:56] good in terms of like not really putting the foot on the gas too hard. Yeah, the email narration I thought was a little too much for Preca on the same right right. But her emails I decided to stay here but her emails

[01:38:07] but her emails but her emails she writes this email to Bruce Wayne at the end. She says like I've decided to stay here and protect because of humans because of love. I did it for love and it's like yeah you're like alright we

[01:38:17] get it and she jumps over the here's an explosion which I think it's supposed to be doomsday or something. I'm maybe now she's in the one woman outfit. Yeah top of the Louvre and she flies through the air and

[01:38:27] it's great and you remember that she's a great great lady. I love her. It's a nice movie. She's a good hero. I would watch again 12 out of 12. Now here's my question for you. We can't do the box office game right.

[01:38:40] But can you predict what will be the top five movies the box office and we'll see if you're right. OK so we're recording this right now on the 24th is that correct 24th of May. OK so this is Wednesday this Friday.

[01:38:56] This Friday you've got pirates of the Caribbean. Salazar's revenge. Hola para. It's I saw it was the worst movie I've ever seen in my life and we also have Baywatch colon Salazar's revenge. OK so I think I think this weekend pirates will probably be number one right.

[01:39:18] Alien Covenant's going to have a big drop off. I think Baywatch will open big but we'll drop like I think this weekend's box office will probably be pirates. It's a squirrel. Baywatch alien guardians something else you know snatched

[01:39:34] and then what nothing also opens the same day as Wonder Woman right as double dubs dinner. Oh it does. You better believe it. I'm so excited for that movie. You're weird. OK great book series great book series. OK as long as they're faithful to the source material

[01:39:50] although I will say when I saw that poster and it says the first epic adventure I went doomed anytime someone has given a title to their movie that implies that it's the first one in what's going to be a series it has been a death now.

[01:40:01] What about Pokemon the first movie Wow you're embarrassed. Doug's first movie Doug's first movie Remo Williams the adventure begins. Don't worry about that one. It's always an overly. Yeah yeah you're like really. Yeah just call it Captain Underpants.

[01:40:15] OK so number one at the box office I believe will be Wonder Woman. I hope so. They've been saying it's tracking at like 75. I think it might be beef up but we'll see. I'll tell you what I think it's going to make opening weekend 92. Great that's my prediction.

[01:40:29] Good predicts. I think the buzz is going to build. Yes and it's going open to 92. Number two probably pirates. Number two will be Captain Underpants and it will open to sure. Yeah yeah yeah 35 I'm going to go with.

[01:40:45] Thirty nine thirty nine it's pretty high big book series been around for a long time number two I'm going to say is going to be pirates with number three number three sorry yeah pirates with like 25 I think even lower I think 21 that's I mean

[01:40:59] that would be really bad. I think pirates is only going to open to like 60 that would be really bad. It's supposed to open to like 100. Yeah but the last one is opening Memorial Day so I guess it has a four day.

[01:41:11] Right yeah but the last pirates open to 90. Yeah but this one has cells are in it. Oh he's just got owned. I think it's going to open to 60 something I think second weekend is going to make about 21 22. And then number well Guardians and Alien will probably still

[01:41:29] be hanging out Baywatch will drop like a stone. Oh yeah Baywatch right. So I think Guardians will jump up over Baywatch and Guardians number four. I think Guardians will be number four. Maybe Baywatch five. Yeah yeah that's my guess Guardians like 12 11 something

[01:41:45] like that watches something around making like nine. So there you go. That's his prediction on the record on the record. Did you see King Arthur did who's that bill he's yep yep we got him got him with they got who's that bill we got him.

[01:42:03] Fated furious is still in the top 10 has not made its budget back in America yet nothing matters doesn't matter you've got boss baby still hanging around but you need the beast now you predicted beauty and the beast would be top five

[01:42:15] worldwide top 10 domestic correct I did as of this moment my my prediction was it would end up at six or seven domestic it is at number eight and seems to stay there. I don't think that it could know it might you know

[01:42:27] it will probably beat Rogue one domestic maybe not Rogue one made 532 yeah it's at 498 it's possible. I think it's going to tap out like 510 probably but that's a crazy run so it'll probably end up seven or eight now worldwide the rollout has been slower so it's a little

[01:42:44] hard to tell right now it just entered the top 10 worldwide last weekend. Yep but I think it will end up I thought top five four five I think it will end up being six or seven I think

[01:42:54] it will end up six or seven I think eight domestic seven worldwide is my guess of where it ends. It has now made $1.2 billion. It's a lot of money. Worldwide and I tweeted this but I'll say it again because I think it's insane and there's a furious

[01:43:10] of me to mount the same amount of money. Here's repeating. Yep. Disney now has five of the 10 highest grossing domestic films in history. Sure. And four of those five have come out in the last 18 months alone. Yeah. That's pretty nuts. Star Wars.

[01:43:27] It used to be a big deal when a movie entered the top 10 of all time and they've done it with Beauty and the Beast and then also Rogue One and Finding Dory. Yep. Bad. Successful company. Sure. Congrats to them. Burger reports?

[01:43:44] Went to Schnippers Quality Kitchen Times Square Day help them to see some famous did not. I went to Moo Burger where I saw Michael Shannon the original burger report. No more burger report. Merchandise spotlight. You can buy Wonder Woman bracelets. I'm going to get them.

[01:44:03] And I hide them under my hoodie when I go outside. So if someone shoots me, I can go. What a little creep. They'll be like he got shot in the like arm and then the face. The forearms. The plastic was ripped to shreds by bullets.

[01:44:20] It is 9 p.m. Oh, great. You got to go. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. So thanks for listening to my check. We're sorry for the audio quality of this episode and the lack of them. Yeah, both might be deal breakers, but you know, we tried our best.

[01:44:36] We just wanted to rep our girl Diana. She rules this movie rules as fun. I can't wait to see it again. Agreed. Do you want to see it again? I can't wait to see it again. You know what's a big thought I had during this movie?

[01:44:45] And I think this movie will appeal to a lot of people. Oh, yeah. I think many will enjoy it. Many will enjoy it. I sat there and went like that was bad. God, I would kill to be like a nine year old girl

[01:44:59] seeing us in the theater right now. This is what a family looks like. Nevertheless, Griffin persisted. Thank you very much for listening. Please remember to make sure you girls have a shot. I didn't say that. You're extrapolating that from my statement, which was mad.

[01:45:12] People know he's doing the little smiley does when he's mad, but he doesn't want to admit it. I'm not mad. No, he's going to go off and make more tick. Can go make more tick. Yep. August 25th coming to Amazon. That's right. Six episodes more. 15, 20.

[01:45:31] Don't know if I'm a liberty to say, well, you'll see some episodes on August 25th. Dot com slash the tick slash yandu. I think it'll be just if you go on to Amazon.com, they'll take all the other stuff off the website and they'll just be tick.

[01:45:44] Yeah, that's usually their approach. There's going to be a week where they don't sell anything. Very easy always to find Amazon original series. It's always very easy to navigate that website. So it's ww4wonderwoman.amazon.yandu. Yeah, shit. We both have the same joke. All right.

[01:46:02] Thank you very much for listening. Please remember to rate review and subscribe. We'll be back next time with Christopher Nolan following. We're starting off the Christopher Nolan. I bought the criterion. Oh, I don't have that yet. I bought it. Congratulations. I also bought Christopher Nolan collection on Blu-ray.

[01:46:17] Came with this little book. Oh, what a nice little book that does not look worth the added price that the box set probably required. So look, here's Memento. Oh, look, it's a picture of Memento in a book. This book for listener home.

[01:46:32] This book is very small by all metrics. It's about the size of a Thomas the Tank Engine book. Even that is ambitious. It would it would look like it looks like a cheese cake factory menu. Yes, yes. OK. We're done and the podcast.

[01:46:51] I'm big thanks to Lee Montgomery. Oh, yeah. And from social accounts. Pat Reynolds and Joe Bowen for the artwork. Yes, we love you, Ben. Of course. And as always, this is what a feminist looks like. Nevertheless, she possesses the future as female. All right, you're done.